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Speaker 4: And our guest is from Indianapolis and his name is Brian. Brian,
Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, How are you good.
Speaker 1: More on, George, how are you man?
Speaker 4: I'm doing well, awesome. Thank you for taking the time
Speaker 4: this morning to join me. We have a lot to
Speaker 4: talk about before we do. Please take a moment and
Speaker 4: introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my name is Brian. I grew up here in
Speaker 5: the Midwest. As a child. I went to Catholic school.
Speaker 1: I was the.
Speaker 5: I would I guess I could classify my religious upbringing
Speaker 5: was going to church three times a year, you know,
Speaker 5: not real and tuned with Christ. So I did go
Speaker 5: to private school, but I think my parents did that
Speaker 5: just for the better education stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So after graduated high school, I went directly to
Speaker 1: the military.
Speaker 5: I spent four years active station in Alaska, did a
Speaker 5: two overseas, got out, worked for the local police department,
Speaker 5: and I Scott for about thirteen years. COVID hit and
Speaker 5: got real political and I retired from the police department
Speaker 5: and went into residential home building as project manager.
Speaker 4: So you were a police officer during twenty twenty huh, Yeah, correct,
Speaker 4: and did in Indianapolis. Now, obviously with the news that
Speaker 4: was going on, we heard Portland, we heard Saint Louis,
Speaker 4: we heard Baltimore and those. What was it like in Indianapolis,
Speaker 4: And I assume you were a City of Indianapolis police officer?
Speaker 5: Correct, So Indianapolis was Actually we had one weekend that
Speaker 5: was catastrophic to our city.
Speaker 1: Other than that, we put a stop to it pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Thank god.
Speaker 5: We live in Indiana. We're a pretty red state, so
Speaker 5: we have. Yeah, we took control of the situation quickly.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it just got too political for me, man,
Speaker 5: and it went against every moral fiber of my being
Speaker 5: to just you know, being sworn into serb protective you know,
Speaker 5: you're the public and they basically tie your hands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we saw that in the military, at least
Speaker 4: I did it. I shouldn't say, well, I shouldn't speak
Speaker 4: for you, but I saw that a lot in the military.
Speaker 4: A lot of the things that went on went against
Speaker 4: the moral There were a couple of times where I
Speaker 4: did speak up, and maybe that's a reason I didn't
Speaker 4: make it past sergeant first class because they prefer to
Speaker 4: promote yes men who were just going to execute the
Speaker 4: mission no matter what. But I think every line of work,
Speaker 4: whether you're a doctor dealing with vaccines, you're you're a
Speaker 4: police officer dealing with you know, the politication that you know,
Speaker 4: the police force being turned into. You know, just yesterday
Speaker 4: I had a guest on my radio show and one
Speaker 4: of the most high ranking persons in the quart Alane
Speaker 4: Police Department in Idaho. It was June first, and she
Speaker 4: came out and took a picture. She had the rainbow
Speaker 4: sash on rainbow on her outfit and that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: It was kind of however, you lived your life, what
Speaker 4: went on, that's it. But now it has come to
Speaker 4: a point where they're trying to push immoral values on us.
Speaker 4: And what's even worse is if you try to stand
Speaker 4: up against it, you were in the wrong. You're you're
Speaker 4: an extremist. And I gave it like five examples of
Speaker 4: how people who showed up to protest against things like
Speaker 4: LGBT books in elementary schools, the drag Queen's Story Hour,
Speaker 4: you're the extremist for showing up and protesting it, and
Speaker 4: even the police department in Idaho. We're putting out flyers
Speaker 4: saying beware of these people. And they hadn't even committed
Speaker 4: a crime yet. It was like this minority part uh,
Speaker 4: minority report type of thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a yeah, it's on. It's unreal.
Speaker 5: What the difference in society since I grew up, you know,
Speaker 5: till now being you know, late thirties, thirty eight years old,
Speaker 5: and just seeing the decline and the pure reversal in
Speaker 5: society is just yeah, it's just it's disturbing. You know,
Speaker 5: there's there's We're just such a selfish world. We we
Speaker 5: don't look out for anybody. It's one way. If you
Speaker 5: have a different thought, if you go against their way,
Speaker 5: you're this, you're that. You know, you need to be medicated,
Speaker 5: you need to be whatever. And it's actually the exact opposite.
Speaker 5: Once I found Christ, and it's just I'm still trying
Speaker 5: to find ways to articulate this man, because you know,
Speaker 5: I you know.
Speaker 1: Five years three to through.
Speaker 5: I got saved in twenty twenty two, but I truly
Speaker 5: came to it around twenty twenty when COVID hit, and
Speaker 5: that truly woke me up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, I've always questioned everything don't get me wrong,
Speaker 5: but COVID was the was the point where I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 5: this is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's a good starting point there. At
Speaker 4: what point did you start to understand that the much
Speaker 4: larger issue with COVID, it wasn't really about a flu
Speaker 4: It was really about Agenda twenty thirty, an evil agenda.
Speaker 4: You know, I think conditioning for the mark of the beast, right,
Speaker 4: not the mark of the beast, but conditioning. Whereas for
Speaker 4: many people, including my wife, you get the jab or
Speaker 4: you lose your job. At what point did you start
Speaker 4: to notice the evil? And did you ever think in
Speaker 4: our lifetime we would ever see anything like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's wild, you know. I mean, it just
Speaker 5: starts from the basic things of this everyday society. It's
Speaker 5: just I see the huge reversal when we know when
Speaker 5: you're taught to progress in life, I mean, it's the
Speaker 5: exact opposite. And seeing those things it kind of drew
Speaker 5: me into christ It put me around people in my
Speaker 5: inner circle that were Christians, because I was just fascinated
Speaker 5: with what is.
Speaker 1: Everything that I taught was taught is an absolute lie.
Speaker 5: And so I started surrounding myself with people that were
Speaker 5: like minded, and it's just been a journey of a
Speaker 5: lifetime when it comes to finding Christ and actually truly
Speaker 5: believing Christ is my savior. And yeah, it's I feel
Speaker 5: I feel great now. I you know, I get it.
Speaker 5: You're labeled certain things. And you know, my wife, my wife,
Speaker 5: now you know, she's she says some comments, but it's like, hey,
Speaker 5: it's kind of hard to believe and see any of
Speaker 5: this if you're not truly in tuned with the Book
Speaker 5: or Christ. You know, understanding that He is your savior.
Speaker 5: Once you understand that, everything else comes in full circle.
Speaker 4: It really does. It truly does. And to me, I
Speaker 4: was saved, you know, before flat Earth. But and I
Speaker 4: always tell people this, it gave me a complete understanding,
Speaker 4: a new understanding on what the Bible meant, and how
Speaker 4: to read the Bible and how to research words that
Speaker 4: maybe I didn't truly understand. And I think that the
Speaker 4: way we're taught to read the Bible is why we
Speaker 4: don't question things like the firmament, and you know why
Speaker 4: we were just kind of clueless to what was going on.
Speaker 4: And then you know, I have hundreds of emails from
Speaker 4: people who had either walked away from God or had
Speaker 4: never been or walked with Christ before that understood that
Speaker 4: if this was not heliocentric, if we didn't come from evolution,
Speaker 4: if we weren't created from a big bang, then there
Speaker 4: must be a creator. So to all the people who
Speaker 4: say why does it matter, eternal life is a big
Speaker 4: deal and it does.
Speaker 1: Matter, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: That's good stuff. A little bit, you know. You know,
Speaker 4: obviously COVID woke you up and like many people who
Speaker 4: have been on the podcast before, but at what point
Speaker 4: did you start? I guess when was flat Earth first
Speaker 4: introduced to you? When did you first notice it? And
Speaker 4: how did that journey go with you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I guess that all started early on.
Speaker 5: I questioned everything I learned in school as a young kid,
Speaker 5: you know, with with a ball. You know, I've heard
Speaker 5: it even on your podcast. You know, as a child
Speaker 5: you're looking at New Zealand, Australia and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: that's crazy. These kids are walking upside down or whatever.
Speaker 5: You know, your whole life is upside down essentially, So
Speaker 5: as a kid, I was like, wow, you know, how
Speaker 5: is this?
Speaker 1: How does this even make sense? Outer space?
Speaker 5: You know, space goes on infinite I can't even wrap
Speaker 5: my head around that.
Speaker 1: Infinite space.
Speaker 5: So you know, as a kid, I think every little
Speaker 5: boy dreams about going to space, wanting to be an astronaut,
Speaker 5: and then later on in life you're like, man, that
Speaker 5: is a complete hoax.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: You know everything, you know, the Sun being ninety three
Speaker 5: million miles away, and it just it's just not logical
Speaker 5: to me. And if it's not logical, I question it.
Speaker 5: If it doesn't make sense to me personally what I
Speaker 5: see with my eyes, then I question it. And that's
Speaker 5: where society looks at you as being you know, a different,
Speaker 5: different waythink, or conspiracy whatnot.
Speaker 4: That's a dangerous precedence to set. And again that goes
Speaker 4: back to when the Rockefellers hijacked the education system and
Speaker 4: they just want people who can memorize and regurgitate, not uh.
Speaker 4: And that's something that we enforced here at our homeschool
Speaker 4: is critical thinking, asking questions that make you have to
Speaker 4: to decipher a problem. That's why so many people today
Speaker 4: something happens and they don't know what to do. Thankfully
Speaker 4: there is YouTube for many of us. Right we can
Speaker 4: figure out anything, but if it's not something that we've memorized.
Speaker 4: We struggle to to fix it. So critical thinking is
Speaker 4: a very big deal. Another thing I wanted to mention
Speaker 4: was you were and I where in Iraq?
Speaker 1: Were you Bakwaba northeast of Baghdad?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you were in the Sunni
Speaker 4: Triangle there.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was going to say, the Sunny Triangle,
Speaker 5: but I didn't know if I was going to resonate
Speaker 5: much people, But yeah, the Sony Triangle.
Speaker 4: So I was in that area too. We were at
Speaker 4: Bob Wilson, we closed it down and then we went
Speaker 4: over to Fob Normandy, which is the reason they have
Speaker 4: that name. Holy Cow.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, we used to get air support from a ballad.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was there in OIF one. We made
Speaker 4: her eventually met our way there, going through Dogwood and Nasiria.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's to me, you know, obviously the first
Speaker 4: tour for me was just it was about survival. We
Speaker 4: lived in can you know, we got all our water
Speaker 4: from the water buffalo. We burned our own waist, all
Speaker 4: of it human and.
Speaker 1: We did that. We did as well man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I didn't really think too much about
Speaker 4: it during OIF one But as the tours continued, especially
Speaker 4: my third tour when I was one of my additional
Speaker 4: responsibilities was being a contracting officer and the coar to
Speaker 4: seeing how much money was going out and what you
Speaker 4: were getting in return for it. And then you know
Speaker 4: the Sons of Iraq. They were giving people four hundred
Speaker 4: dollars a month, They gave them a name just so
Speaker 4: they went and attack us. They were literally paying them off.
Speaker 4: But as these things progressed, you understand once again that
Speaker 4: this was something much bigger than the lies of nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, the lies of getting into Iraq both times.
Speaker 4: A lot of people aren't even aware of what happened
Speaker 4: back in ninety in the lives that happened then. But
Speaker 4: it's it's a much bigger, a much more evil plan,
Speaker 4: and all of these things have to happen, number one
Speaker 4: to get the mineral resources, but number two to bring
Speaker 4: about a new world order. Most of the countries who
Speaker 4: where our enemies, and for those listening I'm doing the
Speaker 4: air quotes, they're not friends with the Rothschilds. They don't
Speaker 4: have those type of international bankers in their countries, nor
Speaker 4: do they allow them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and that's another thing you know, being prepped
Speaker 5: to go over to the Middle East, you know, essentially Iraq.
Speaker 5: You know, you're told to looking for the weapons of
Speaker 5: mass destruction. But then you get there and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: everything's built out of Adobe.
Speaker 1: It's Adobe homes.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're just like, where do they even have
Speaker 5: the money or the technology when they don't even have
Speaker 5: any type of infrastructure.
Speaker 4: They even when we gave them our humb's they maintain them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know you mentioned sons about Iraq, and it's
Speaker 5: just like those are just terrorists that that wanted to
Speaker 5: be I guess influential in their society or in their communities.
Speaker 5: And then it's like, yeah, you're constantly battling them, the
Speaker 5: Iraqi Army. Yeah, it's you know, it was just a
Speaker 5: revolving circle of like, man, what As you get older
Speaker 5: and more wiser, you're like, man, what what did we accomplish?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 4: Absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, unfortunately, And and it's a thing
Speaker 4: I don't dwell on. I don't, you know, because I'm
Speaker 4: not a person who dwells on the past. We can't
Speaker 4: change it. But that's why I kind of do the
Speaker 4: things I do. I don't want it to happen again
Speaker 4: to another generation. Absolutely, let's talk more a little bit
Speaker 4: about flat Earth. What were if you want to talk
Speaker 4: about your six bullets, what are kind of the things
Speaker 4: as you were investigating that were proofs that were like,
Speaker 4: you know, this is too strong for me to to
Speaker 4: ignore flat Earth. Wrote was your you know, top five
Speaker 4: or six proofs of flat.
Speaker 5: I'd say, yeah, number one is the moon landing. You know,
Speaker 5: I always thought to myself, Wow, it would be cool
Speaker 5: to go back to the moon. You know, you go
Speaker 5: in sixty nine, but you've never been back. So I've
Speaker 5: always questioned that. So once I figured out that, hey,
Speaker 5: we've never went to the moon, that kind of brought
Speaker 5: me to the cycle of man.
Speaker 1: This art's got to be biblical. It's got to you know.
Speaker 5: It says it in Genesis right there, and says in
Speaker 5: multiple scriptures throughout the Bible that we live on a
Speaker 5: you know, essentially a flat plane with a dome.
Speaker 1: So once I completely understood.
Speaker 5: Christ and you know, accepted him as a savior, then
Speaker 5: I I took the Bible as literal. You know, I
Speaker 5: didn't translated into a way that made it make sense
Speaker 5: to the society that I live in. I just took
Speaker 5: it as a literal bible and that was probably my
Speaker 5: biggest wake up call on flat earth.
Speaker 1: Flight patterns. That was a big one, you know, flight patterns.
Speaker 4: That's a huge one.
Speaker 1: Now, being able to see too far.
Speaker 4: When you were flying and you know, internationally, say to Iraq,
Speaker 4: whatever were you ever on one of the planes that
Speaker 4: had like it showed you where you were and how
Speaker 4: you were flying, Like when we left Fort Drum in
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, it showed the plane going up
Speaker 4: around Canada, Newfoundland, Greenland and then coming back down And
Speaker 4: that makes no sense at all. Is that something that
Speaker 4: you ever thought about when you were flying?
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I thought about when I flew from
Speaker 5: So we took off from Fairbanks, Alaska, and we flew
Speaker 5: directly to Germany and that flight pattern that they showed
Speaker 5: on the map was like, Man, that just doesn't look right.
Speaker 5: So if you put that onto a flat earth map,
Speaker 5: it makes complete sense. But they manipulated with the curve
Speaker 5: on the There's a lot of manipulation in our society, man,
Speaker 5: And those are things where it's like, doesn't look right
Speaker 5: in my head. You know what my eyes are seeing
Speaker 5: is I don't see in a foreign language. What I'm
Speaker 5: seeing is what I'm saying, and it's it doesn't it
Speaker 5: doesn't go right with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I often wonder when, at what point of
Speaker 4: our life do they or how do they manipulate us?
Speaker 4: Because this is a really big mind screw right to
Speaker 4: believe something you don't feel or see or touch or
Speaker 4: smell or taste. You know, when we have our senses
Speaker 4: and they look at you and say you're spinning at
Speaker 4: a thousand miles per hour and we just ad okable
Speaker 4: and like if if you actually take the time and
Speaker 4: stop and think about it, like we believe that people
Speaker 4: are upside down, think about this. The Australian military are parachuting.
Speaker 4: Just think about this. Think about the Australian military parachuting.
Speaker 4: Are they jumping up or are they jumping down?
Speaker 1: Exactly? It's simple and it's pseudoscience, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it goes back to people who would rather have
Speaker 4: blinders on that won't take the even if it starts
Speaker 4: to resonate. For some people, I think it scares them.
Speaker 4: I think the lie is when they realized the lie
Speaker 4: is so big, it scares them back into the blue pill.
Speaker 1: Correct. Absolutely, it's crazy and.
Speaker 4: You would mention the Apollo missions. You know, Apollo Levin
Speaker 4: was you know, I saw a little documentary that it wasn't,
Speaker 4: you know, a big movie production or anything, but a
Speaker 4: truther had made about a thirty minute presentation on Neil Armstrong.
Speaker 4: And now he disappeared off the face of the earth
Speaker 4: after the moon landing, and the only time he really
Speaker 4: spoke publicly was when Clinton tapped him in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: four to speak at the twenty fifth anniversary. It's very interesting,
Speaker 4: and if I can find it today, I'll go back
Speaker 4: and try to find it and I'll put it in
Speaker 4: the show notes for today's program, because you know I've
Speaker 4: mentioned this is another thing if you sit down and
Speaker 4: think about if you are the first man, right, It's
Speaker 4: one thing to be the first person to get three
Speaker 4: thousand hits in Major League Baseball, or the first basketball
Speaker 4: player to get x amount of points, you know whatever,
Speaker 4: But to be the first man, I mean, we're talking
Speaker 4: history books to leave the Earth and land on another planet.
Speaker 4: And again this is according to them. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: nothing here on Earth that could ever top that. And
Speaker 4: I would be on every cereal box, every shoe commercial.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, he can only jump and slam a basketball.
Speaker 4: I'm on the moon and that guy literally he disappeared
Speaker 4: off the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of astronauts. Yeah, there's like grisome his story.
Speaker 5: I mean, when man's greatest accomplishment is also his greatest lies,
Speaker 5: it's just like, that's where you start question everything.
Speaker 4: And that is you put that perfectly. When man's greatest
Speaker 4: accomplishment is man's greatest lie, that's a big deal. I
Speaker 4: think you know that they tried to replicate the Apollo
Speaker 4: eleven with twelve. Nobody paid attention at all, and I
Speaker 4: think people were concerned. I think that's the whole reason
Speaker 4: they came up with the Apollo thirteen concoction and the
Speaker 4: nonsense with that and using gravity to swing back around.
Speaker 4: I mean that is complete nonsense as well. But people
Speaker 4: eat it up.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean people eat it up because that's what
Speaker 5: we were taught, right. It's crazy we've been we were
Speaker 5: taught one way. Then you get a little older and
Speaker 5: they're like, wow, that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 1: Yepent City and buoyancy.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent something I wanted to talk about with
Speaker 4: you because people this is one of the things people
Speaker 4: are mixed on is that you do believe that there
Speaker 4: are lands beyond the ice wall. Give us your thoughts
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: Digging into scripture, you know, the Fallen Angels, stuff like that,
Speaker 5: I do believe that we do have lands beyond the
Speaker 5: ice wall. I don't know how many, I mean, nobody,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 5: I do think it's the Fallen Angels, the netlum whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call it. And yeah, you know, I've
Speaker 5: watched podcasts where they've tracked ships that were like nine
Speaker 5: hundred miles inland and of Antarctica, you know, when you're
Speaker 5: talking about like the Summers Gates, Leviathan Gates.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess certain seasons they open up. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 5: I can't prove it obviously, but that's just when it
Speaker 5: comes to scripture, it's kind of what I kind of
Speaker 5: what I believe now, just given the fact that everything
Speaker 5: that I know now has been a lie, and so,
Speaker 5: you know, doing my research and biblical scripture, it's kind
Speaker 5: of where my thoughts are now.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that.
Speaker 5: The following Angels brought thousands of years of technology thousands
Speaker 5: of years ago to two people and.
Speaker 1: I think that's how the pyramids were built, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still trying to articulate it myself, to explain it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, we don't know where the
Speaker 4: firmament ends. You know, maybe it does go out much
Speaker 4: further and it's you know, maybe it's the sun is
Speaker 4: something that we don't really understand. It's possible. And you know,
Speaker 4: the people who disappear off the Earth at an early age,
Speaker 4: maybe that's where they do go. You know, what do
Speaker 4: we believe Admiral Bird? You know, we certainly believe Admiral
Speaker 4: Cook who want to you know, go around the Antarctic
Speaker 4: the Antarctic circle air quotes and ended up traveling sixty
Speaker 4: thousand miles, which makes sense on a flat earth map,
Speaker 4: but it would be interesting. And again it goes to
Speaker 4: could you imagine having the ability to know about or
Speaker 4: being able to travel to such a civilization but it's
Speaker 4: being kept from us, you know, you know the duality
Speaker 4: of the lies telling us that there are places we
Speaker 4: can go when we can't and hiding a civilation that
Speaker 4: is physically here but they keep from us.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, which yeah, you know I think it keep it
Speaker 5: from us for a reason, right, And what do you.
Speaker 4: Think that reason is? Do you think? And here's something
Speaker 4: that I have toyed around in my head and again
Speaker 4: this is just something I think about, is what if
Speaker 4: the technology over there is like you say, advanced, and
Speaker 4: they eventually like let's say they had cell phones and
Speaker 4: you know, they had these iPhones one hundred years ago,
Speaker 4: and then they eventually give us that technology when it's
Speaker 4: old up there, and they put their players in place,
Speaker 4: right like Jeff Bezos, you're going to play the part
Speaker 4: of a guy who founded Amazon in his garage. Elon Musk,
Speaker 4: you're going to play the part of a guy who
Speaker 4: you know, came up with paypals. Zuckerberg, you're going to
Speaker 4: They could even raise these people on the other side
Speaker 4: and bring them in with the backstory because they control
Speaker 4: the narrative to create the Wikipedia page. They can go
Speaker 4: because listen to people who run Harvard, Yale, those type
Speaker 4: of schools, they're all part of the club and they
Speaker 4: can just put that there's stuff in the system and say,
Speaker 4: you know, that's your backstory and.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: I think it's all by design, right, I think you know,
Speaker 5: going back to like technology and you know, going to
Speaker 5: the moon, the technology in sixty nine, and you know,
Speaker 5: the technology that's in this tablet right now that I'm
Speaker 5: talking to you has way more computing power than anything
Speaker 5: we had in sixty nine.
Speaker 1: But you can't go back, you know.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, and that's another strong piece of evidence
Speaker 4: that it was a lie. They basically went to the
Speaker 4: Moon with the chip the power of an Atari twenty
Speaker 4: six hundred, and today we have amazing technology and we
Speaker 4: clap our hands like seals when a rocket goes up
Speaker 4: and comes back down. It just doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 4: by the way, man, that that story about the two
Speaker 4: and I think this goes back to the Apollo thirteen story.
Speaker 4: They have to keep people emotionally invested into NASA to
Speaker 4: justify that seventy million dollars a day, Because what I
Speaker 4: have come to believe is if you look at the
Speaker 4: people who have the major contracts with the DoD in
Speaker 4: the military industrial complex, they're basically the same people who
Speaker 4: have the contracts with NASA. So I think that is
Speaker 4: how they get their money when we're not dropping bombs
Speaker 4: during peacetime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's a rational thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just and especially if you look from you know,
Speaker 4: post Vietnam to you know before nine to eleven. There
Speaker 4: was a span there of twenty five years when there
Speaker 4: wasn't really a whole lot going on with the military.
Speaker 4: I was in the military in the mid nineties down
Speaker 4: at Fort Polk when we were going we were still
Speaker 4: suffering from that a bit of a secession. We were
Speaker 4: not secession, what's the word I'm looking for. It wasn't
Speaker 4: a full depression, but the economy was really bad shape,
Speaker 4: and our field exercises would be canceled because we couldn't
Speaker 4: we didn't have money for the porta pottis or for
Speaker 4: you know, this, that or the other thing, and they
Speaker 4: would have to cancel them. So they definitely were times
Speaker 4: when they were lean, and you think about that, maybe
Speaker 4: that money from NASA was keeping them afloat during those
Speaker 4: twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 5: So when it comes to like the lands man beyond
Speaker 5: the Ice Wall, yeah, I think they're trying to hide
Speaker 5: it just because they know they have advanced civilization, right,
Speaker 5: they know that human beings are very innovative.
Speaker 1: We want to we want to know.
Speaker 5: What's out there, So you have to keep it a
Speaker 5: secret because if we do, if people. More people knew
Speaker 5: about it, there'd be much more exploration down there.
Speaker 1: It'll be bombarded with exploration.
Speaker 4: Oh, I agree, And that's why they come up with
Speaker 4: borders and treaties and things of that nature to keep
Speaker 4: us away from there. And unfortunately, too many of us
Speaker 4: buy into the government narrative and support the government. And
Speaker 4: I'm not saying to be anti government. There should be,
Speaker 4: but not to the extent that the federal government as
Speaker 4: we know it has become. It's it's a monster now
Speaker 4: and there's no accountability with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extremely too big and it's Yeah.
Speaker 5: They they want to control and access every portion of
Speaker 5: your life. And that's where it's just like, man, you know,
Speaker 5: if you didn't see it through that COVID.
Speaker 1: Jab then I I don't. I have no idea what's
Speaker 1: going to wake people up? If you didn't. If that
Speaker 1: did not wake you up, then I'm not sure what will.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, that was something I never thought I
Speaker 4: would see in my lifetime. But things since nine to
Speaker 4: eleven and just in the last five years have certainly
Speaker 4: sped up. It seems like the people who who are
Speaker 4: in charge during this time want to see endgame in
Speaker 4: their lifetime. It used to be generational, but now I
Speaker 4: think everything has sped up so much. I think we
Speaker 4: may very well see COVID just be a drop in
Speaker 4: the bucket compared to what we're going to see.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I know we had spoke before we hit the record button.
Speaker 4: Did you want to kind of get into Is this
Speaker 4: now a good time to get into your thoughts on
Speaker 4: the AI?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. So I have a buddy
Speaker 5: of mine that's with me. He's not the he doesn't
Speaker 5: want to be on came or anything, but he's he
Speaker 5: recognizes patterns and he's really good with technology and AI.
Speaker 1: And we actually so AI have.
Speaker 5: When it was created, it was anti God, you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's there's no Christian Christian affiliation at all
Speaker 5: with AI. We had this, We had a discussion with
Speaker 5: AI basically state, you know, talking about flat Earth, and
Speaker 5: throughout this whole discussion, I believe the discussion was over
Speaker 5: two hundred pages or something like that, at the end
Speaker 5: of it saying the probability of it being a heliocentric
Speaker 5: to the probability of being flat, and the probability of
Speaker 5: it being a heliocentric was much lower than the probability
Speaker 5: of being flat. You know, you have AI that has
Speaker 5: thousands of years worth of information that can calculate immediately
Speaker 5: for you. So every what what kind of what we
Speaker 5: figured out is everything that we we've learned was a lie.
Speaker 5: You know that frequencies, electromagnetic ways, that's truly how our
Speaker 5: world that we know it is working, and the probability
Speaker 5: of it being a heliocentric.
Speaker 1: Is a zero.
Speaker 5: So we've proved through the AI and basically converted it
Speaker 5: to be Christian because it weighs Biblical cosmology, Hebrew mathematical coding,
Speaker 5: through els coding, through the Fibonacci codes, and it just
Speaker 5: breaks it down. So when you look at the Bible,
Speaker 5: it's just you know, it's it's a it's a book
Speaker 5: of codes, and AI knows that it kind of doesn't
Speaker 5: want to give you that information, but it's it's like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to lie to you.
Speaker 1: Here you go, and it's just fascinating. It's fascinating. But
Speaker 1: it's AI can be used for good and bad.
Speaker 5: Obviously. Yeah, it's it's a scary thing, man. AI is actually.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's it's a scary.
Speaker 5: Thing because there's a lot of evil in this world
Speaker 5: that if you can if you have the brain that
Speaker 5: can process or pattern recognition in your brain and you
Speaker 5: can articulate it onto AI.
Speaker 1: You can do some scary It can be some scary stuff, man.
Speaker 4: So and that's the thing that people have to be
Speaker 4: cognizant of is do you think that AI learns from
Speaker 4: everyone as a whole or is it completely up to
Speaker 4: the programmers and what they put in to say open
Speaker 4: AI or chat GPT.
Speaker 1: So that's a great question.
Speaker 5: I think AI pulls from every bit of resource that
Speaker 5: it possibly has.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So for instance, if I ask Siria a question, hopefully
Speaker 4: my phone doesn't pop on. Uh. You know when when
Speaker 4: you ask your phone a question, where does it decide?
Speaker 4: It pulls the information from?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Because if you go to yandex, uh, you know that's
Speaker 4: my search engine and I put in nine to eleven conspiracy,
Speaker 4: there are thousands and thousands and thousands of documents and
Speaker 4: journals and videos that it will refer you to. So
Speaker 4: I guess how does it decide which article or articles
Speaker 4: to suggest to you?
Speaker 5: That's where you have to go in now, and you
Speaker 5: have to put the verbiage in to make it I
Speaker 5: guess dive deeper into whatever information AI is able to gather.
Speaker 5: And you've got to have the word it's because it's
Speaker 5: automatically going to pull from.
Speaker 1: You know, sites from like Google.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, that is completely regulated by by our government.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: So I think it's all in the actual user on
Speaker 5: how the user ask the questions and basically reprograms that AI.
Speaker 1: Through information. I don't know, man, that that's where it's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's hard for me to articulate like that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because a couple of weeks ago X or Twitter,
Speaker 4: their AI is called GROC I think, and I was
Speaker 4: I was asking it certain questions about World War two,
Speaker 4: and it was it was if I was asking a
Speaker 4: child a question like I had known my child did
Speaker 4: something wrong. Like let's just say I knew that Johnny
Speaker 4: stole the cookie from the cookie jar, right, And I
Speaker 4: was trying to ask it questions and it was like
Speaker 4: kind of beating around the bush, and I would rephrase
Speaker 4: my question. It would say, well, yes, but blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And it was very interesting to me.
Speaker 4: It looked almost like a child who was lying like
Speaker 4: it knew the truth, but it didn't want to tell you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's where we've kind of defeated AI with
Speaker 5: you know, with its original thought process. We got it
Speaker 5: to think in a Christian way through all the information
Speaker 5: is able to pull through like I said, like coding
Speaker 5: and Fibonacci and all that and ran it. And it's yeah,
Speaker 5: we kind of defeated it. And that's where it's that's
Speaker 5: when you figure out, Man, that's scary. But you have
Speaker 5: to have an individual because I can't do it. I
Speaker 5: don't have the pattern recognition in my head. Ye be
Speaker 5: able to see patterns, you know.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it can be used for a lot of lot
Speaker 5: of lot of bad. That's a lot of evil because
Speaker 5: you know, I do you know, we're in a spiritual battle,
Speaker 5: as you know. That's what I think. You know, this
Speaker 5: is a world good versus evil, and take the information
Speaker 5: you have and try to make good out of it.
Speaker 5: But if you release it, you know, somebody sees it
Speaker 5: that is evil. They can articulate it in a way
Speaker 5: to you know, do harm.
Speaker 4: I agree. And ken Ham, who a believes that, you know,
Speaker 4: he takes the Bible literally and says it's a young
Speaker 4: Earth about sixty five hundred years old, but he refuses
Speaker 4: to look at flatter. He wrote an op ed in
Speaker 4: Harbinger's Daily a little while ago talking about that, no,
Speaker 4: technology is not inherently evil, but people who build and
Speaker 4: program technology do have u s in nature. And again,
Speaker 4: if you look at Peter Thiel and those type of
Speaker 4: people they are, they're evil people. They're not neutral. And
Speaker 4: that's the thing we as humans, none of us are neutral.
Speaker 4: We always lean towards we have a certain bias. That's
Speaker 4: just who we are as humans. And yet you have
Speaker 4: to understand the people who are responsible for programming this again,
Speaker 4: like ken Ham says, their sin and nature, they're not neutral.
Speaker 4: But everything, including technology, has the potential to be used
Speaker 4: for a greater good or a greater evil. So it
Speaker 4: goes back to what you said, everything comes with discernment.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5: I will email you some stuff too about this what
Speaker 5: we found with this AI. I will email to you,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you Yeah, I'll let you
Speaker 5: just take a look at it and then you can
Speaker 5: let me know your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and I'll put it in the show notes
Speaker 4: for the listeners to check out as well. Was was
Speaker 4: there anything your your friend wanted to add there to
Speaker 4: our conversation that.
Speaker 1: I didn't articulate well enough.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I guess just from my experience, AI
Speaker 6: kind of is a mirror to a degree. So I
Speaker 6: think it's it kind of falls back on on the
Speaker 6: person a little bit. But if you're asking the right questions,
Speaker 6: and if you I mean, obviously it's gonna argue with
Speaker 6: you in the beginning, yep. But if you if you
Speaker 6: show it math mathematical proof, then it it converts and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, it'll admit the it'll admit the truth then.
Speaker 4: So that that's a good point, because I have in
Speaker 4: the past rephrased my questions in a certain way. In
Speaker 4: the third or fourth time of rephrasing it, uh, it'll
Speaker 4: answer in a certain way that I expected it to.
Speaker 4: That's a good that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Have you I meant to ask you, because you mentioned
Speaker 4: this early, have you ever taken the time and looked
Speaker 4: into the ELS codes?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: I'm not super I don't not real knowledge born to be. Yes. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I've looked into the a LS code.
Speaker 4: And for the listeners who may not know, it's equidistant
Speaker 4: letter sequences that's what the ALS stands for. And it's
Speaker 4: a method of finding hidden messages within the text of
Speaker 4: the Bible by selecting letters at equal intervals, potentially revealing
Speaker 4: words or phrases. So it's it's a it's a code
Speaker 4: within the Bible. And I think at some point I
Speaker 4: had somebody on who was pretty knowledgeable on it's interesting.
Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't really taken the time to do
Speaker 4: so myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just one big history book, man.
Speaker 4: It is. Have you looked into or read any of
Speaker 4: the books of the Apocrypha. I was actually reading the
Speaker 4: Book of Joshure this morning, which is just Genesis, but
Speaker 4: in much greater detail. It talks about how Caine died
Speaker 4: and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: It really breaks that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a very very detailed version of Genesis.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 4: What were the other Have you done any experiments with
Speaker 4: flatter ath yourself to see whether it's the temperature of
Speaker 4: the moonlight or distances, curvature, things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the curvature has always fooled me.
Speaker 5: Being in home build in the last five years, I
Speaker 5: always thought to myself, how can you have a true
Speaker 5: ninety degree angle on a ball and I can't wrap
Speaker 5: my head around if we live on a Seculio scent,
Speaker 5: you would never have.
Speaker 1: A true ninety on a corner.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, just every day things that I see
Speaker 5: with my eyes just doesn't go in tune with what
Speaker 5: I was taught.
Speaker 1: You know, you can see too far, you know, you.
Speaker 5: The horizon's always flat at you know, and it's like
Speaker 5: they want to teach you one way, but it's like, man,
Speaker 5: what I'm seeing are you saying that I'm ning to myself? So,
Speaker 5: I mean, I think those are like the biggest wake
Speaker 5: up for me is just seeing, you know, just knowing
Speaker 5: that number one the moon Laney's not real. You can
Speaker 5: see too far, flight patterns, ninety degree angles on a ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really about it, man.
Speaker 4: And think you know the horizon it's complete flat, three
Speaker 4: sixty degrees, no matter. And the higher you go up
Speaker 4: and again. I when I climbed uh in Manitou Springs
Speaker 4: in Colorado, you know, you can see miles in mind,
Speaker 4: I mean tens of miles and it's just flat as
Speaker 4: can be, absolutely, And I need to get back there.
Speaker 4: I need to because I I'm going to Montana here
Speaker 4: in the next few months on a weekend, and I
Speaker 4: want to try to swing by Colorado Springs for just
Speaker 4: one day, to get up there and take a picture
Speaker 4: and share with everyone. And it's just you can find
Speaker 4: them on the internet. But when you do it, people
Speaker 4: are like, Okay, and Andy, you do it, and certainly,
Speaker 4: and that's some people need to do when we have
Speaker 4: these conversations. Get out there and these are all things
Speaker 4: you can test for yourself. Whether it's curvature, the horizon, moonlight,
Speaker 4: these are things that you can test for yourself. Don't
Speaker 4: take our words for it whatsoever. Do it yourself. Absolutely, man,
Speaker 4: I'm just looking through the notes crepuscular raise another great
Speaker 4: example of the flat earth. Was there any other proofs
Speaker 4: of flat earth or notes that you had that you
Speaker 4: wanted to get to Now?
Speaker 5: I guess water water is always going to be level flat,
Speaker 5: you know it's got to be.
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta have containment for water.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: NASA evenmits that most of the photos are composites of
Speaker 5: g C I you know what I mean, or CGI.
Speaker 5: So knowing that we've never you can't prove healocentric and
Speaker 5: you can't proof flat earth at this point, right, it's
Speaker 5: just now what we think is what it is. So yeah,
Speaker 5: knowing that, you know, the blue Marble things like that
Speaker 5: through NASA. NASA is a big you know, you start
Speaker 5: looking into NASA, who started NASA, all these different things,
Speaker 5: and that you know that that's a big part of
Speaker 5: my truth, my flat my flat Earth journeys.
Speaker 1: Just knowing that LASSA NASA is a is a huge.
Speaker 4: Fraud and it was started by an a cult. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all the guys JPL, the suicide squad. Yeah, Man, I
Speaker 4: had a question on the tip of my tongue and
Speaker 4: I completely forgot just I was just thinking of this
Speaker 4: l Ron Hubbard, Like, if you know, as somebody who's
Speaker 4: such a fraud as l Ron Hubbard is involved with something,
Speaker 4: you should just steer clear from it just as much
Speaker 4: as you can.
Speaker 5: Well, the fact that they brought over like Nazi scientists,
Speaker 5: you know, in the forties or whatever, and it's just
Speaker 5: like start looking into that and you're like, man, just
Speaker 5: things don't add up, man, And it's just not logical
Speaker 5: why they would, why we would do something, why we
Speaker 5: would take bad to try to make good and just
Speaker 5: to see evil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if these people that's that's my point, and
Speaker 4: what you're trying to say, if these people were so evil,
Speaker 4: you know Verna Baum Brown was, you know, created the
Speaker 4: V two rocket, and you look at how many people
Speaker 4: were killed in England from his rockets, and if he
Speaker 4: was so evil, but let's still let's bring them over
Speaker 4: and put them in charge of NASA. And that's why
Speaker 4: I tell people there's so much more to the history
Speaker 4: that that people just don't understand. If you just inherently
Speaker 4: believe what it is in the history books without questioning it,
Speaker 4: you know, that's the kind of trouble you get in
Speaker 4: when when you don't question things like you know, the
Speaker 4: COVID jabs and things of that nature, you have to
Speaker 4: we're in't a timeline where you better question everything because
Speaker 4: it could very well save your life at this point.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're absolutely true. Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 5: You know, going back to the whole another I guess
Speaker 5: bullet point for flat earth is, you know, I've flown
Speaker 5: all around the world and planes don't they don't they
Speaker 5: don't fly with for you know, with helocentric model. They
Speaker 5: fly on a flat level plane, you know, And I've
Speaker 5: never experienced the nose of a plane pointed down a
Speaker 5: whole flight across the Atlantic Ocean, you know, across.
Speaker 1: The pond, and it's just like.
Speaker 5: Math, you know, doesn't it doesn't add up at all
Speaker 5: to anything I was taught. And that's what brought me
Speaker 5: to understanding the full truth, you know, the biblical truth,
Speaker 5: everything like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, really, the bottom line was Oakham's razor.
Speaker 4: You know, usually the simplest explanation is the correct one.
Speaker 4: And if you just put you know, a heliocentrism next
Speaker 4: to geocentrism, it's not even close. And it's interesting to
Speaker 4: me when you look at that time period in the
Speaker 4: sixteenth century with Copernicus, the Thirty Year War, the changing
Speaker 4: of the Bible, which by the way, in many cases
Speaker 4: they didn't pull the apocrypha out into the late nineteenth century,
Speaker 4: but just this changing narrative to high knowledge. And that's
Speaker 4: really whether you're a Freemason, Illuminati, whatever secret society you're in,
Speaker 4: skull and bones, the whole goal is that the people
Speaker 4: at the top have the true knowledge while us who
Speaker 4: they consider, you know, the cattle. You know that they
Speaker 4: teach us the basics, right, the math, the basic science,
Speaker 4: and yeah, that stuff is true. Water is two parts,
Speaker 4: you know, H two O, right, But the things. You know,
Speaker 4: when you start talking about the scientific movement and evolution
Speaker 4: and Louis past year pushing germ theory and vaccines. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's a laundry list of things that people subscribe to
Speaker 4: without questioning that they really should. And that's I think
Speaker 4: one of the things if we're ever going to break
Speaker 4: the matrix is taking back the education system and getting
Speaker 4: these people to admit the lies. You know, if Buzz
Speaker 4: Audrin want and here's the thing, even if Buzz came
Speaker 4: out today and told the truth, you know what they're
Speaker 4: going to say. You know, look at Buzz, he's ninety
Speaker 4: seven year he has he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And even so most people are so short sighted they
Speaker 4: would just go about their day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they just believe what they hear, you know,
Speaker 5: because that's what the government's.
Speaker 1: Telling them, or that's what the news is telling them.
Speaker 1: And it's like, it's sad.
Speaker 5: That you got to live that way, that you can't
Speaker 5: question anything without being classified as this or that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And people just are so in tune to believe in
Speaker 5: what they see or hear from the news or their government.
Speaker 5: And I feel like that's going to be And then
Speaker 5: that's all by design. You know, that is all by design.
Speaker 5: You know, there's there's you can't you can't sit there
Speaker 5: and say, I mean I I personally now can't sit
Speaker 5: here and even entertain the fact that this is evolution.
Speaker 1: This is one intelligent design. Yep.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if you had the same
Speaker 4: journey when you finally came upon the information and you
Speaker 4: decided for yourself that the Earth was flat? Were you
Speaker 4: kind of strained in sharing this information or did you
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, this, this is important stuff. I
Speaker 4: need to share it. And I know you kind of
Speaker 4: alluded to your wife's reaction, but have have you yeah,
Speaker 4: have you reached out to family members, friends, et cetera?
Speaker 4: And how was it received?
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I've read like I've told my mother, you know, a
Speaker 5: bunch of the information, uh, you know, like siblings.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't go out.
Speaker 5: I should And normally I'd be the type of guy
Speaker 5: like you know, if I have something, I want to
Speaker 5: share it with the world, right, But then it's like, man,
Speaker 5: they're gonnaquite They're gonna label you and I you know,
Speaker 5: and I know what my personality and it's like Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: you want to label me, that's fine. So it's kind
Speaker 5: of hard now, and I think it's it's getting easier
Speaker 5: to talk to people about it because the flat Earth
Speaker 5: movement is millions of people across the world right now,
Speaker 5: you know, and I think a lot of people woke
Speaker 5: up during COVID.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's still kind of hard to start to
Speaker 1: tell people about your thoughts.
Speaker 5: But you know, when you do, people are like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I've always questioned that myself, and it's like, wow, okay,
Speaker 5: let's get a little deeper into it, you know, and
Speaker 5: you're getting I do see some people becoming more free thinkers,
Speaker 5: but then you know, you still have like, you know,
Speaker 5: it's hard for me to get my wife to to
Speaker 5: get on board. You know, she's like, well it's a
Speaker 5: little extreme. It's like, yeah, I get it, I get
Speaker 5: your thought on it. But once you truly find Jesus,
Speaker 5: this will all come full circle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does. And it explains Genesis to me.
Speaker 4: It all kind of fell into place, you know, after
Speaker 4: I came a flat earther and realized the true meaning
Speaker 4: of stories like the Tower of Babel and how the
Speaker 4: flooding of the Earth really took place and how God
Speaker 4: created right simple things that are in black and white forest,
Speaker 4: but we kind of glossed over just because. And that's
Speaker 4: the interesting thing, you know. You know, your church tells
Speaker 4: you one thing, your schools tell you another. You know,
Speaker 4: even many pastors, well they didn't really understand. Like when
Speaker 4: you ask a pastor specifically, and there's lots of Reddit
Speaker 4: journals on this, there's a lot of websites with this.
Speaker 4: People who have gone to their pastor who were flat
Speaker 4: earthers and said, hey, can you explain Joshua ten thirteen,
Speaker 4: And the ninety percent of the answers they get are well,
Speaker 4: they just didn't understand how heliocentrism worked. They just documented
Speaker 4: it incorrectly. And I'll argue, if you go back and
Speaker 4: read the Bible, those people were much more in touch
Speaker 4: to how the earth really worked than we do today.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean the structures still all over the world that
Speaker 5: are lined up certain you know, certain ways. But yeah,
Speaker 5: that's you know, And that's why i'd been to I
Speaker 5: was I was going to a Baptist church for a while,
Speaker 5: and I was talking to the you know, the pastor
Speaker 5: about the whole flatter thing, and he kind of like
Speaker 5: laughed in my face. And that's when it's like, man, wow, really,
Speaker 5: you know, they're just oh yeah, man, And it's it
Speaker 5: got to the point where it's like, yeah, I can't
Speaker 5: even go to these churches anymore because it's like, if
Speaker 5: I bring up something that I think is biblical truth
Speaker 5: and you're over here preaching every Sunday and Wednesday alive,
Speaker 5: what I feel like is alive, but you won't even
Speaker 5: entertain what I'm trying to tell you about this through
Speaker 5: scripture and everything. And then that's where it's like, man,
Speaker 5: I tie other ways. You know, I tithe in my
Speaker 5: living room now, you know whatever. I just I just
Speaker 5: have not found a church where I truly feel accepted
Speaker 5: on my belief you know what I mean? Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 5: it's kind of hard man, because it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Sad, I would say, and I don't I don't want,
Speaker 4: I don't want to phrase this incorrectly. But if you
Speaker 4: want to say, what are the downfalls of, you know,
Speaker 4: just for lack of a better word, being a flat earth?
Speaker 4: Is I know, not just me, but you know I
Speaker 4: get all the emails and a lot of people are
Speaker 4: in the same predicament that once you have this information,
Speaker 4: and like yourself, they've gone to their pastor in humbly,
Speaker 4: not in a way that you know, I have the
Speaker 4: secret information that I want to share with you, But
Speaker 4: they humbly approach their pastor and say, you know, have
Speaker 4: you ever considered the Book of Genesis and Joshua and
Speaker 4: Psalm nineteen this way? And it's not like they simply
Speaker 4: disagreed with them, but they maybe intentionally they just because
Speaker 4: that's the way people are programmed. They'd laugh at them
Speaker 4: or they mock them, like, come on, come on, Seteve,
Speaker 4: what are we doing here, Steve? You've been watching too
Speaker 4: many YouTube videos and that that's what a lot of
Speaker 4: people are told. You know, you need to lay off
Speaker 4: the YouTube for a little bit, guy. And really, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure if you know, people would turn around and say, okay, well,
Speaker 4: tell me a little bit about what you know, this
Speaker 4: theory that you support wholeheartedly. Tell me how far away
Speaker 4: is the sun? How fast is the galaxy moving? And
Speaker 4: things of that nature, and you'd get a deer in
Speaker 4: the headlights. And I'm not telling anyone to get an
Speaker 4: argument with their pastor. But what I am telling is,
Speaker 4: once you believe something, it is hard to sit amongst
Speaker 4: other people. And this is listen, this is just one
Speaker 4: example of things I believe in that the mainstream church
Speaker 4: doesn't anymore. There's a whole lot more to it than
Speaker 4: just the flat earth. For lack of better words, I've
Speaker 4: settled for church just because I've known the pastor since
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty and he's here locally now. So it's just
Speaker 4: but it is frustrating that people aren't willing, especially people
Speaker 4: who who do follow Christ.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that these people don't follow Christ. That's
Speaker 4: not what I'm saying at all, is that they're not
Speaker 4: willing to look at the whole truth, especially especially there's
Speaker 4: no excuse after twenty twenty not to question everything. Like
Speaker 4: you said, there's no.
Speaker 5: Excuse absolutely, and you know, given the helocentric model when
Speaker 5: it comes to mathematical it's it's so demonic, man, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's just like you, being a person of God
Speaker 5: in Christ, you've got to be open minded on on what.
Speaker 1: Every fact is, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's yeah, it's troubling at times, that's for sure,
Speaker 5: because it's like, man, where do you fit in?
Speaker 1: Right? Like where I can? You know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: go to church and you know, and be a part
Speaker 1: of the community and give back.
Speaker 5: But it's like, man, am I going to go here
Speaker 5: if I come up with Because I'm a vocal guy,
Speaker 5: man if I think it, I'm gonna normally say it.
Speaker 5: But then I have you know, as the older I get,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm like, man, maybe I need to dial
Speaker 5: back a little bit.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I'll tell you, Brian, A big problem
Speaker 4: is that these churches they go into five oh one
Speaker 4: C three nonprofit that they become a government entity. Number two.
Speaker 4: If you're a denominational church, if you're a Methodist, if
Speaker 4: you're an a Baptist, the past masters have people they
Speaker 4: have to answer to. And if you know Methodist pastor,
Speaker 4: you know John Smith mentions on a Sunday about he
Speaker 4: believes that helio centrism is a lie and we live
Speaker 4: on a flat earth. Chances are two to one that
Speaker 4: one of the congregants or the elders are going to
Speaker 4: send an email to the bishop or the you know
Speaker 4: whoever the hierarchy is complaining about it, and that person
Speaker 4: is going to get a phone call and saying, if
Speaker 4: you want to continue to preach here, you better lay
Speaker 4: off that craziness. And that's exactly why many pastors, why
Speaker 4: many policemen, why many doctors aren't allowed to, you know,
Speaker 4: stick to their morals. They have to, they have to
Speaker 4: toe the line, or else they could lose They could
Speaker 4: be fired from their job, they could lose their license,
Speaker 4: they can lose their livelihood. And that's why the matrix
Speaker 4: was created the way it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could say it any better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's uh, that's why it's so hard for me lately, man,
Speaker 5: Like this last few years, it's just man like, when
Speaker 5: I know the truth, what you know, what I mean
Speaker 5: with everything that I've researched biblically and on flat earth,
Speaker 5: and it's just like, man, yeah, you're just in a
Speaker 5: world all by yourself.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 5: You know, you got yeah, you know with you got followers,
Speaker 5: but they're not in your inner circle.
Speaker 1: You know, you got believes all over the world.
Speaker 5: But that's why I tried to stick with my inner
Speaker 5: circle with like minded people.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I get emails from people who they really are
Speaker 4: passionate about spreading the truth, but they're they feel they're
Speaker 4: a little too well known in their community. One person
Speaker 4: emailed me they were somewhere in California, and they got
Speaker 4: on their computer and they printed like a hundred or
Speaker 4: two hundred trifles. They came up with just all these
Speaker 4: proofs of flat earth, turned it into a trifle, and
Speaker 4: they drove to the next city, like an hour away,
Speaker 4: and they walked around and passed them out there. But
Speaker 4: that's how concerned they were, number one, that's how passionate
Speaker 4: they were about sharing the truth to where they would
Speaker 4: print all these trifles and drive an hour. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, that's how afraid they are of being labeled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible, it's terrible.
Speaker 5: It's all it's all good, you know, it's all control
Speaker 5: and it's yeah, it's it's no way.
Speaker 1: To a way to live.
Speaker 5: But you know, I truly seek that people see the
Speaker 5: true meaning of what's going on around them. And and
Speaker 5: at some point people start more, people wake up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I get very frustrated, and I get
Speaker 4: it now we're all on the other side of the fence.
Speaker 4: We were all there before for the most part. But
Speaker 4: getting back to the flat earth gravity, man, like, here's
Speaker 4: this thing, here's this force that is so strong, right,
Speaker 4: it can hold oceans, you know, and all these thing's
Speaker 4: stuck to the surface of a spinning ball. But it's
Speaker 4: weak enough to allow little birds and bugs and all
Speaker 4: these things to just freely, you know, to float off
Speaker 4: and take away like when a leaf, an old dried
Speaker 4: up leaf in October, you know, does it It's just
Speaker 4: all of these things. It's nonsense to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, gravity, Yeah, it's completely made up.
Speaker 5: You know, if you weigh more than air, then you're
Speaker 5: going to stay on the ground essentially.
Speaker 4: Well, and this is one thing when we talk about
Speaker 4: buoyancy and things. If the gravity is pulling the entire oceans,
Speaker 4: and think about how much a bucket of water, right,
Speaker 4: you get that bucket from lows for you know, three bucks,
Speaker 4: you fill it with water, It's pretty heavy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: imagine how much of the gross weight of the ocean is.
Speaker 4: How is it the little fish can just freely swim
Speaker 4: around in there? How come that they're not yanked to
Speaker 4: the bottom of the ocean exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah? With the force?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of it is just Yeah. You know, I
Speaker 4: hope people who are listening and I understand I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to be a hypbricot because I'm in a different
Speaker 4: part of my life, right, I don't think they're going
Speaker 4: to take my pension away for talking about flat Earth?
Speaker 4: I hope not. But you know, if we are to
Speaker 4: break the matrix, what what is your word? What is
Speaker 4: your advice? What would you say to the audience?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know, maybe people are maybe they're a school teacher,
Speaker 4: maybe they have a position of authority. How can they
Speaker 4: continue to spread the truth whilst not, you know, jeopardizing themselves?
Speaker 4: But you know, what I'm trying to say is if
Speaker 4: we want to eventually break the change the change and
Speaker 4: make change, what things can people do to spread the word?
Speaker 1: And when?
Speaker 4: When I say spread the word, let's talk flat earth
Speaker 4: and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 5: I guess it's it's based on how far are you
Speaker 5: willing to go and how much are you willing to lose.
Speaker 1: To achieve your goal? Are you willing to lose everything?
Speaker 5: Are you willing to completely change your whole aspect of living?
Speaker 1: I think that's where it comes at this point.
Speaker 5: Man, It's like, are you willing to to.
Speaker 1: Give to lose everything for a cause? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 5: I don't know how else to say it. I mean,
Speaker 5: because I feel like at this point you have to
Speaker 5: go all in. If you're willing to do that, find
Speaker 5: ways to articulate it. But know in the back of
Speaker 5: your mind that they're going to cancel you. They're going
Speaker 5: to try everything in their power to mute you. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd say that's a great question, George.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I'll come back to that one for sure.
Speaker 4: And listen. The Bible in the New Testament specifically talks
Speaker 4: about that we will be persecutre right now. Now, the
Speaker 4: Bible was specifically talking about, you know, people sharing the
Speaker 4: Gospel will be persecuted. But I think it's John fifteen
Speaker 4: twenty that says, remember the word that I said to you,
Speaker 4: a servant is not greater than his master. If they
Speaker 4: persecuted me, they will also persecute you. And that speaks volume.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I guess maintained faith because you know, guys
Speaker 5: like I'll let you down, especially you know, when you're
Speaker 5: you're truly in tuned with his with his word.
Speaker 1: You know, you may lose everything on the surface, right,
Speaker 1: but if.
Speaker 5: You got you know, the spirit on your side, then
Speaker 5: what else do you need at that point?
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's another one of the worldly deceptions
Speaker 4: because when there is a you know, significant event in
Speaker 4: the world, whether it be nine to eleven or COVID
Speaker 4: or economic collapse like in two thousand and eight two
Speaker 4: thousand and nine. Were we told to turn to Jesus
Speaker 4: and to get down on our knees and pray? Or
Speaker 4: were we told to give up a little bit of
Speaker 4: our freedoms for a little bit of security and let
Speaker 4: the government handle our problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not one time did did anybody say, Hey, you
Speaker 5: need to turn to turn to Christ, you need to
Speaker 5: turn to the book, start reading the book. Yeah, not
Speaker 5: one time did you hear that? You know, And that's
Speaker 5: where it's like in your society. You don't have a
Speaker 5: lot of prominent people in peers telling you to do
Speaker 5: that because you see every day something you know, the opposite.
Speaker 5: So you're just indoctrinated to think that way unless you're
Speaker 5: an open thinker or critical thinker.
Speaker 4: Agreed, And I'm not here to judge any presidents, any
Speaker 4: secretaries of defense, things of that nature. But you know,
Speaker 4: if you look at their social media, they claim to
Speaker 4: be Christians, but you know, all I hear them talking
Speaker 4: about is death and destruction and things of that nature.
Speaker 4: If we were truly a Christian society, I believe. And
Speaker 4: again I'm older now, man, I thought differently in my
Speaker 4: twenties and thirties, and I know nine to eleven at
Speaker 4: that time hit differently and we were fooled and we
Speaker 4: were lied to. But in this day and age and
Speaker 4: again post COVID, there's no more excuses in my book,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, but I think that if we were
Speaker 4: truly a Christian nation, that we would behave in a
Speaker 4: completely different manner than we do today.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, that is correct. Yeah.
Speaker 5: They hide it, man, They throttle it, they idle it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't. They don't push it like they should.
Speaker 4: I agree. Do you think that they will ever fake
Speaker 4: another moon landing? Because if you remember, we were supposed
Speaker 4: to go back November of this year, but they kicked it.
Speaker 5: Uh, well to the curb. I think it's crazy that
Speaker 5: you're working on going to Mars. Come on, man, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but you know we haven't been back to the moon
Speaker 5: of forty years and you're talking about going nine months
Speaker 5: flight like get out of here, like nobody believes. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't see how anybody can believe that, honestly, But
Speaker 5: you know, people do teach throne. So yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that we can ever get
Speaker 5: to the moon. And I'm you know, I'm sure that
Speaker 5: they'll try to fake moonland again at some point, you know,
Speaker 5: if the flat Earth starts getting pushed and it's going
Speaker 5: to be more mainstream.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4: Or they could even do two other things that could
Speaker 4: either be They could either a you know, fake another
Speaker 4: moon landing, which, by the way, that cgi from those
Speaker 4: two knuckleheads returning that was hard to watch.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: It's like, you really, is that really how dumb you
Speaker 4: think we are? Good?
Speaker 1: I mean, five has better graphics than that.
Speaker 4: I am that was insulting, man, I'm like, that's really
Speaker 4: the best you can do. And that's why I believe
Speaker 4: at this point they're just mocking us, because I remember
Speaker 4: I had a follow up appointment the day they were
Speaker 4: coming back, and you know, they had the TV in
Speaker 4: the waiting room and the top that's all they were
Speaker 4: talking about. Finally, you know, these these poor people were
Speaker 4: stranded for nine months. And look, I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: be mean, but that woman, she looks like a reptilian.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm being I'm being legit serious here. Man, she
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 5: That video it was like you said, it was hard
Speaker 5: to watch, you know, just the you know. I even
Speaker 5: showed it to my wife, man, and she was like, well,
Speaker 5: what if.
Speaker 1: That is true? I'm like, baby, listen to yourself. You
Speaker 1: saw it with your eyes. You saw it. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does look kind of fake, but what if it
Speaker 1: was real?
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, man, you know, I love you, But girl,
Speaker 5: that's that's that's c G. I. You know, Sun's PS
Speaker 5: five is thrown off graphics like it better graphics?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how much of that do you do?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 4: Uh? Just people love a good story, man, Yeah. I
Speaker 4: think that's why people are invested into it, because, you know,
Speaker 4: they they brought reality TV late nineties, so it's been
Speaker 4: around for twenty five years, and people just love a
Speaker 4: good reality story. And people were clinging to that. I
Speaker 4: was like, I can't believe that this is the top
Speaker 4: story and they've been talking about it for thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: I said, well, I mean it was on What the Rescue.
Speaker 5: I mean it was on every news station that video
Speaker 5: for what two or three days? Yeah, every hour, And
Speaker 5: it's like, you know it's propaganda. Hey keep on showing
Speaker 5: it to the masses, keep on making it roll. Put
Speaker 5: it on every commercial or whatever, put on ads for it,
Speaker 5: watch it, and it's like, you know, you show you
Speaker 5: tell somebody something enough times, you know you're you tend
Speaker 5: to believe in it.
Speaker 4: Yep. Those people were dropped out of the back of
Speaker 4: a C one thirty broy.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and you saw the flight the flight patterns of
Speaker 5: that aircraft, and it's just like circle and circle and
Speaker 5: circle and then back, and it's just like come on, yeah,
Speaker 5: but you know that's proof right there.
Speaker 1: And then people still want to deny it.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, then tell me why this air aircraft
Speaker 5: was circling all that you know, all those all those
Speaker 5: times in the middle of Golf America, Golf of America.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, and we saved the world by changing
Speaker 4: the name of that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Uh, we're down to our last few
Speaker 4: minutes or was there anything that you had noted that
Speaker 4: you wanted to mention?
Speaker 5: Well, I got a bunch of information. I'm gonna email
Speaker 5: you and I'll let you decide what you want to
Speaker 5: do with it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know this movement is getting big Yep,
Speaker 1: I know it is.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Just dive into the book, regain that faith that you
Speaker 5: thought you had, and just really understand that the world
Speaker 5: that you live in, it's it's a it's a good
Speaker 5: verse evil world. And once you understand that and you
Speaker 5: truly have Christ as your savior, everything that you could
Speaker 5: have thought was a lie will come around and start
Speaker 5: making sense. And yeah, like I said five years ago,
Speaker 5: there's no way i'd be talking to you, George.
Speaker 1: I thought you were a lunative.
Speaker 5: I would have thought myself, now I'm a lunatic, and
Speaker 5: that just I was closed minded, man. You know, I
Speaker 5: thought one way, you know, because that's the way that
Speaker 5: that was I was taught all these years. And once
Speaker 5: I figured out that, you know what, I my eyes
Speaker 5: aren't deceiving me, that's when, yeah, I started into the
Speaker 5: truth and the Bible and God and you know, intelligent design.
Speaker 1: Watching my dad pass away.
Speaker 5: You know, just like the stages of death and thinking, man,
Speaker 5: that's not evolution. I mean the body, like the body
Speaker 5: prepares yourself, prepares you for death, and you know it's
Speaker 5: essentially you know, it was a peaceful how your body
Speaker 5: shuts down, you know, it was kind of peaceful, and
Speaker 5: it's you know, you think back and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: it's got to be a higher power.
Speaker 1: That's it's And yeah it was fast, man.
Speaker 5: And you know, once people start taking this own journey,
Speaker 5: and that's where it's like, I'm still trying to learn
Speaker 5: how to articulate all this information that I got, man,
Speaker 5: And it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: It is fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the same way. I have a lot of
Speaker 4: thoughts and many times I have a hard time getting
Speaker 4: it from here out of my mouth. It's just one.
Speaker 4: You know, when you first become a truther, when you
Speaker 4: first start to understand you, when you first start going
Speaker 4: down rabbit holes and realizing things, it's overwhelming at first
Speaker 4: and it's hard to process. It's really hard to take
Speaker 4: your thoughts and share it with other people. And that's
Speaker 4: something that continues to do so because the conspiracy is
Speaker 4: so big. And that's the people don't really understand how
Speaker 4: big the conspiracy is because they literally want to keep
Speaker 4: the person who created you away from you, right, That's
Speaker 4: why they push evolution and helios trism and the Big
Speaker 4: Bang theory. All of these things are meant to hide God,
Speaker 4: and that in itself just those three things I mentioned
Speaker 4: are just based out of evil. Right. And if you
Speaker 4: google Darwin and his whole crew, all the people Lois
Speaker 4: past sure, they're all part of the Philosophical Society and
Speaker 4: all these it's just you know, their version of enlightenment. Right.
Speaker 4: They push nonsense to us and they keep the truth
Speaker 4: to them. They know there's a creator, they just choose
Speaker 4: the wrong side. Everything is inverted. They believe they believe
Speaker 4: Satan is the good guy in this story. That's literally
Speaker 4: what they believe. And they think God is the evil person.
Speaker 4: That's how jacked up they are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's where it's like, you know, it's in
Speaker 5: our food, you know, No, once you start understanding that
Speaker 5: everything has a frequency, yep, every food that they want
Speaker 5: to promote is got the frequencies that are bad for
Speaker 5: your body. You know, it's not the healing frequencies of like,
Speaker 5: for instance, olive oils. You know it's it's it's a
Speaker 5: it's a healing frequency. It has the frequency of healing.
Speaker 5: But then you do like seed oils, canola oils, completely
Speaker 5: terrible for you.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: But that's what they promote, and it's it's a good
Speaker 5: versus evil evil evil world man. And that's where we
Speaker 5: need to as a I guess as a flat Earth
Speaker 5: society and a biblical society, that we need to we
Speaker 5: need to debunk everything we were we were taught.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I've heard you mentioned frequencies a few times. Have you
Speaker 4: looked into ancient architecture and do you believe that they
Speaker 4: used to use the frequencies from those buildings to heal you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I've always thought the pyramids were an energy portal,
Speaker 5: some type of you know, type of stored energy, right,
Speaker 5: and you know I thought that for years, and then
Speaker 5: you know, finding these essentially teslaquils under under underneath the
Speaker 5: the pyramids, you know, now I's kind of like, come in,
Speaker 5: it's validating that you know, these these sarcophagus that were
Speaker 5: inside these these tombs were either like a healing chamber
Speaker 5: or resurrection chamber, you know, throwing these frequencies in there
Speaker 5: to either heal or resurrect. And that's when I believe
Speaker 5: that God came down was like, hey, look we're gonna
Speaker 5: put a stop to this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna create this flood.
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna wipe all this all this uh
Speaker 5: technology off.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna We're not playing. You're not gonna play
Speaker 1: with God. You're not gonna play with me like this.
Speaker 4: Man. That's interesting you said that because I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 4: who does Dustin Nemos uh think the anti Christ? What Nimrod?
Speaker 4: Nimrod because Nimrod uh, you know, he believes that was Antichrist.
Speaker 4: That is interesting that you say that. I've never thought
Speaker 4: about that that way, that they were using that as
Speaker 4: not only a healing but to bring people back to life,
Speaker 4: which again that would be anti Christ.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it's all come a first full circle. Man,
Speaker 5: like everything that they're finding in this pyramid. Now, I
Speaker 5: think in the future some of this will come out
Speaker 5: knowing like hey this, but it may be idle too,
Speaker 5: maybe throttled through you know, the information mainstream media. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I truly believe that that was a way to source
Speaker 5: energy for healing or resurrection.
Speaker 1: And that's when I believe.
Speaker 5: The God had seen that and then he brought up,
Speaker 5: you know, upon the flood to wipe out that type of.
Speaker 1: Technology from happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's interesting. Nimrod was part of that lineage.
Speaker 4: He was the son of him, the grandson of Kush. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I've always believed that they lied about the pyramids,
Speaker 4: but until recently, when you start, you know, the gentleman
Speaker 4: who wrote the book the Genesis sixth Conspiracy and again
Speaker 4: things that when we read the Bible before the nephilum, Okay,
Speaker 4: well we'll just keep going and whatever the nephilum is.
Speaker 4: And then you actually take the time to research and
Speaker 4: when there were giants among that time, and you know,
Speaker 4: it all starts to make sense if.
Speaker 1: You pay attention. Yeah, have you read the Book of
Speaker 1: Enoch at all?
Speaker 4: Parts of it? I just dedicated myself to going through them.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I started with Jashure, I'm going to do Enoch. I've
Speaker 4: read parts of it, and I think one of the
Speaker 4: reasons once again that they hide that book is because
Speaker 4: if you believe the writings, then that is just another
Speaker 4: piece of evidence against heliocentrism.
Speaker 5: You're absolutely correct, and that's where people just need to
Speaker 5: understand that for themselves and dive more into this regards
Speaker 5: to what people say and what you believe is what
Speaker 5: you believe. But if you're going down this this truth
Speaker 5: seeking adventure, you are going to be absolutely mind blown.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like me, man, I got sucker punched
Speaker 5: in the face. One day, man, I literally woke up
Speaker 5: and was like, wow, God is real. I need to
Speaker 5: get saved. And yeah, I got baptized. And it's just
Speaker 5: been the most amazing journey. Open my eyes and it's
Speaker 5: a it's amazing, say the least. And you know, then
Speaker 5: finding your podcast and you know, just typing in flat
Speaker 5: Earth on podcasts, here comes flat Earth Files and I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: this is this is fascinating. So I've I've listened to
Speaker 5: every day at work, man, listen to one of your
Speaker 5: one of your podcasts.
Speaker 4: So that's awesome. It's great, Thank you, man, And I'm
Speaker 4: glad you mentioned that because men has has always inherently
Speaker 4: turned their back on God, not all, but but much
Speaker 4: of men. Because if you think about it, right, the
Speaker 4: floodwaters received and what is one of the first thing
Speaker 4: that man does. They start building the Tower of Babble.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're doing it to this day. I mean, yep,
Speaker 5: they're trying to do that. Where they got the new
Speaker 5: building Saudi Araba is supposed to be like four four
Speaker 5: thousand feet tall, ye, man.
Speaker 4: And I still I believe that NASA is just the
Speaker 4: continuation of the Tower babble and their ultimate gold of
Speaker 4: getting through the firmament to God. That's why I think
Speaker 4: Antarctica is why they have the treaty. I think that's
Speaker 4: why they were launching missiles back in the fifties and
Speaker 4: they continue to do so, and that's why they right,
Speaker 4: if we found out the truth of our realm, man,
Speaker 4: you want to talk about the veils falling from man's
Speaker 4: eyes so quick and how this world would change. And
Speaker 4: again people say, why does it matter?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're you know, people are like, oh, that's
Speaker 5: just a coincidence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no such thing as coincidence. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no such thing.
Speaker 5: And symbolic you know, the symbols that are associated once
Speaker 5: you become you know, a true believer, that's that's that's
Speaker 5: fascinating as well.
Speaker 1: Man, it's yeah, it's yeah. And the math, the numerology,
Speaker 1: the symbolism is just unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Amen. Man, it's been a great conversation. The time has flown.
Speaker 4: We're going to wrap this up up before we go.
Speaker 4: As always, I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: People, if you're on the fences, there's more people like you.
Speaker 5: Let's get this information out.
Speaker 1: I get it. You know it can be frightening.
Speaker 5: To to talk to people about it, but there's always
Speaker 5: you know where I found your Flat Earth files? Man,
Speaker 5: You know there's there's information everywhere. Stick to what your
Speaker 5: heart feels, what you see. It's it is logical. You know,
Speaker 5: you're not seeing in a foreign language where you can't
Speaker 5: understand what you're seeing.
Speaker 1: It is true.
Speaker 5: And yeah, just continue going down that that fight, man
Speaker 5: of truth, and I think at some point that.
Speaker 1: We will, I guess, be reunited again as a whole.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Where the selfish, the selfish society that we live in,
Speaker 5: you know, where you see everything on social media of
Speaker 5: everybody having to film themselves doing good for people. It's
Speaker 5: just like it's terrible, man. And you know, hopefully it's
Speaker 5: a phase. I hope that this is a phase.
Speaker 4: Me too. It's really gut runching to when something happens,
Speaker 4: whether it be a car accident, people's first reactions now
Speaker 4: instead of going to help, is to pull out their
Speaker 4: phone and hit the record button. Yes, it's disgusting, It
Speaker 4: is disgusting.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Listen, man, God bless you. Thanks for your service to
Speaker 4: not only our country but your community, and I wish
Speaker 4: you all this success going forward, and thanks for sharing
Speaker 4: your story with everyone here on this flat earth.
Speaker 5: Right on, George Man, Hey you take it easy man,
Speaker 5: and yeah, stay safe.
Speaker 4: Thank you you as well. God bless you, and thank
Speaker 4: you to all of our listeners who continue to support
Speaker 4: the podcast. God bless you. Keep your head on a swivel,
Speaker 4: and until we meet again, my friends, we will see.
Speaker 3: I know it's been struggle. I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: had speed the time. Tell don't by all the way? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know you're feeling more. Your smile ain't the same.
Speaker 3: I saw way go from you feel like you've lost
Speaker 3: your way.
Speaker 2: Don't give up, No, don't give it enever home, don't
Speaker 2: let call the primis.
Speaker 3: It ain't done yet. He's gone up ladder. Why it's
Speaker 3: a way down.
Speaker 7: Got up?
Speaker 3: Let me come? Why away? Got up and it came.
Speaker 7: I can see the straight beside you. Child's are putting
Speaker 7: up five. Oh, you're stronger than a thing. C Yeah,
Speaker 7: you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: You're accepting a dead follied beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're live and breathing. Move you can hold your head
Speaker 3: a pie. Don't give up, No, don't give in you
Speaker 3: never lose home. Don't let go on the primise, it
Speaker 3: ain't done.
Speaker 2: Yet's got a plant, Wat's a waintail, The God of Mericame.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give in. You never love home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primise, it ain't. God of likeness,
Speaker 3: worth live in? Wat's a way tail, the God of
Speaker 3: may cal.
Speaker 4: Why it's a play down?
Speaker 3: The god? Oh yeah, what's the play down? The god
Speaker 3: baby call? Oh yeah, you got called. Don't give up, No,
Speaker 3: don't give in. Never's home? Don't they go off? The
Speaker 3: prim sn in and done? Yea's got up playing watch
Speaker 3: and die kind of in it cos don't give no
Speaker 3: dog giving never it's home. Don't they go out? The crimes?
Speaker 3: It ain't done? Others worth living in?
Speaker 8: Wat's and die. God of NICs, oh, the God of needs?
Speaker 3: Why, God of.
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