WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.559 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:29.160 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:29.800 the poll? 4 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.960 The question why. 5 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:40.960 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the 6 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:48.359 truth we find. They built their tails on grafts and 7 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:50.280 lines on. 8 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:57.759 Theories they stake their designed put down here. 9 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:02.079 On this solid Welcome back from around the world. It's 10 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:05.159 time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast 11 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.840 as we record on this Friday, March twenty eighth, twenty 12 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:12.079 twenty five. Hope everybody had a great weekend. As this 13 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.640 podcast comes out. It's on a Sunday night. 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So there you go, without 25 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:53.439 any further ado, we're going to jump right into it today. 26 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.280 And our guest is from Indianapolis and his name is Brian. Brian, 27 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.000 Good morning, sir, How are you good. 28 00:01:59.000 --> 00:01:59.959 More on, George, how are you man? 29 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.359 I'm doing well, awesome. Thank you for taking the time 30 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:04.000 this morning to join me. We have a lot to 31 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.280 talk about before we do. Please take a moment and 32 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:07.599 introduce yourself to the audience. 33 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:09.960 Yeah, my name is Brian. I grew up here in 34 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:16.439 the Midwest. As a child. I went to Catholic school. 35 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:19.520 I was the. 36 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:26.120 I would I guess I could classify my religious upbringing 37 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.919 was going to church three times a year, you know, 38 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:33.840 not real and tuned with Christ. So I did go 39 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:38.639 to private school, but I think my parents did that 40 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.800 just for the better education stuff like that. 41 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.520 Yeah. So after graduated high school, I went directly to 42 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:43.879 the military. 43 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:47.000 I spent four years active station in Alaska, did a 44 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:50.719 two overseas, got out, worked for the local police department, 45 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.000 and I Scott for about thirteen years. COVID hit and 46 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:59.000 got real political and I retired from the police department 47 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.080 and went into residential home building as project manager. 48 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.960 So you were a police officer during twenty twenty huh, Yeah, correct, 49 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.879 and did in Indianapolis. Now, obviously with the news that 50 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.120 was going on, we heard Portland, we heard Saint Louis, 51 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.800 we heard Baltimore and those. What was it like in Indianapolis, 52 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.680 And I assume you were a City of Indianapolis police officer? 53 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:23.400 Correct, So Indianapolis was Actually we had one weekend that 54 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.560 was catastrophic to our city. 55 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:28.719 Other than that, we put a stop to it pretty quickly. 56 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:29.800 Thank god. 57 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.840 We live in Indiana. We're a pretty red state, so 58 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.439 we have. Yeah, we took control of the situation quickly. 59 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:39.479 But yeah, it just got too political for me, man, 60 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.759 and it went against every moral fiber of my being 61 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:48.599 to just you know, being sworn into serb protective you know, 62 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:52.879 you're the public and they basically tie your hands. 63 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.439 Yeah, and we saw that in the military, at least 64 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.000 I did it. I shouldn't say, well, I shouldn't speak 65 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:59.599 for you, but I saw that a lot in the military. 66 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.280 A lot of the things that went on went against 67 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.319 the moral There were a couple of times where I 68 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.599 did speak up, and maybe that's a reason I didn't 69 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.960 make it past sergeant first class because they prefer to 70 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.080 promote yes men who were just going to execute the 71 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.240 mission no matter what. But I think every line of work, 72 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.480 whether you're a doctor dealing with vaccines, you're you're a 73 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:23.160 police officer dealing with you know, the politication that you know, 74 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.399 the police force being turned into. You know, just yesterday 75 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.480 I had a guest on my radio show and one 76 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.680 of the most high ranking persons in the quart Alane 77 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.319 Police Department in Idaho. It was June first, and she 78 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.160 came out and took a picture. She had the rainbow 79 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:46.920 sash on rainbow on her outfit and that kind of thing. 80 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.800 It was kind of however, you lived your life, what 81 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.120 went on, that's it. But now it has come to 82 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:57.160 a point where they're trying to push immoral values on us. 83 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:01.199 And what's even worse is if you try to stand 84 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.000 up against it, you were in the wrong. You're you're 85 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.199 an extremist. And I gave it like five examples of 86 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.439 how people who showed up to protest against things like 87 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:19.920 LGBT books in elementary schools, the drag Queen's Story Hour, 88 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.800 you're the extremist for showing up and protesting it, and 89 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.920 even the police department in Idaho. We're putting out flyers 90 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.800 saying beware of these people. And they hadn't even committed 91 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.480 a crime yet. It was like this minority part uh, 92 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:35.199 minority report type of thinking. 93 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.920 Yeah, it's a yeah, it's on. It's unreal. 94 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.720 What the difference in society since I grew up, you know, 95 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.759 till now being you know, late thirties, thirty eight years old, 96 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.800 and just seeing the decline and the pure reversal in 97 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.439 society is just yeah, it's just it's disturbing. You know, 98 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.199 there's there's We're just such a selfish world. We we 99 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.120 don't look out for anybody. It's one way. If you 100 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.519 have a different thought, if you go against their way, 101 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.839 you're this, you're that. You know, you need to be medicated, 102 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.560 you need to be whatever. And it's actually the exact opposite. 103 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.839 Once I found Christ, and it's just I'm still trying 104 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.199 to find ways to articulate this man, because you know, 105 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:14.800 I you know. 106 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:16.360 Five years three to through. 107 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:20.319 I got saved in twenty twenty two, but I truly 108 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.439 came to it around twenty twenty when COVID hit, and 109 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:23.920 that truly woke me up. 110 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:24.199 Man. 111 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.439 You know, I've always questioned everything don't get me wrong, 112 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.759 but COVID was the was the point where I'm just like, wow, 113 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:31.959 this is unbelievable. 114 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:34.439 Yeah, I guess that's a good starting point there. At 115 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.759 what point did you start to understand that the much 116 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:42.160 larger issue with COVID, it wasn't really about a flu 117 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:47.240 It was really about Agenda twenty thirty, an evil agenda. 118 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.920 You know, I think conditioning for the mark of the beast, right, 119 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.639 not the mark of the beast, but conditioning. Whereas for 120 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:57.959 many people, including my wife, you get the jab or 121 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.959 you lose your job. At what point did you start 122 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:02.879 to notice the evil? And did you ever think in 123 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.879 our lifetime we would ever see anything like that. 124 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.120 Yeah, It's it's wild, you know. I mean, it just 125 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:14.120 starts from the basic things of this everyday society. It's 126 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.360 just I see the huge reversal when we know when 127 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.040 you're taught to progress in life, I mean, it's the 128 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.920 exact opposite. And seeing those things it kind of drew 129 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:27.199 me into christ It put me around people in my 130 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.439 inner circle that were Christians, because I was just fascinated 131 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.240 with what is. 132 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.800 Everything that I taught was taught is an absolute lie. 133 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.160 And so I started surrounding myself with people that were 134 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.519 like minded, and it's just been a journey of a 135 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.319 lifetime when it comes to finding Christ and actually truly 136 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:52.560 believing Christ is my savior. And yeah, it's I feel 137 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.439 I feel great now. I you know, I get it. 138 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:59.360 You're labeled certain things. And you know, my wife, my wife, 139 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:04.920 now you know, she's she says some comments, but it's like, hey, 140 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.040 it's kind of hard to believe and see any of 141 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.920 this if you're not truly in tuned with the Book 142 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.439 or Christ. You know, understanding that He is your savior. 143 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.360 Once you understand that, everything else comes in full circle. 144 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:22.839 It really does. It truly does. And to me, I 145 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:27.279 was saved, you know, before flat Earth. But and I 146 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.879 always tell people this, it gave me a complete understanding, 147 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.840 a new understanding on what the Bible meant, and how 148 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.240 to read the Bible and how to research words that 149 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:41.679 maybe I didn't truly understand. And I think that the 150 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.639 way we're taught to read the Bible is why we 151 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.960 don't question things like the firmament, and you know why 152 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.200 we were just kind of clueless to what was going on. 153 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.639 And then you know, I have hundreds of emails from 154 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.000 people who had either walked away from God or had 155 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.759 never been or walked with Christ before that understood that 156 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:04.559 if this was not heliocentric, if we didn't come from evolution, 157 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.039 if we weren't created from a big bang, then there 158 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.799 must be a creator. So to all the people who 159 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.320 say why does it matter, eternal life is a big 160 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:15.279 deal and it does. 161 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:19.480 Matter, absolutely absolutely. 162 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.480 That's good stuff. A little bit, you know. You know, 163 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:25.360 obviously COVID woke you up and like many people who 164 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.600 have been on the podcast before, but at what point 165 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:31.080 did you start? I guess when was flat Earth first 166 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.080 introduced to you? When did you first notice it? And 167 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:35.399 how did that journey go with you? 168 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.120 Yeah? So I guess that all started early on. 169 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.399 I questioned everything I learned in school as a young kid, 170 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.120 you know, with with a ball. You know, I've heard 171 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.320 it even on your podcast. You know, as a child 172 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.240 you're looking at New Zealand, Australia and you're like, man, 173 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.039 that's crazy. These kids are walking upside down or whatever. 174 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.559 You know, your whole life is upside down essentially, So 175 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:02.519 as a kid, I was like, wow, you know, how 176 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:02.919 is this? 177 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.240 How does this even make sense? Outer space? 178 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.399 You know, space goes on infinite I can't even wrap 179 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:10.200 my head around that. 180 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:12.720 Infinite space. 181 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.399 So you know, as a kid, I think every little 182 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.360 boy dreams about going to space, wanting to be an astronaut, 183 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.240 and then later on in life you're like, man, that 184 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:22.679 is a complete hoax. 185 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:23.039 Man. 186 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.240 You know everything, you know, the Sun being ninety three 187 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:30.440 million miles away, and it just it's just not logical 188 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.919 to me. And if it's not logical, I question it. 189 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.399 If it doesn't make sense to me personally what I 190 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.799 see with my eyes, then I question it. And that's 191 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:44.360 where society looks at you as being you know, a different, 192 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.720 different waythink, or conspiracy whatnot. 193 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.240 That's a dangerous precedence to set. And again that goes 194 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:57.120 back to when the Rockefellers hijacked the education system and 195 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:00.559 they just want people who can memorize and regurgitate, not uh. 196 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.399 And that's something that we enforced here at our homeschool 197 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:08.440 is critical thinking, asking questions that make you have to 198 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.559 to decipher a problem. That's why so many people today 199 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.200 something happens and they don't know what to do. Thankfully 200 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:17.440 there is YouTube for many of us. Right we can 201 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:21.320 figure out anything, but if it's not something that we've memorized. 202 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:26.240 We struggle to to fix it. So critical thinking is 203 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.360 a very big deal. Another thing I wanted to mention 204 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.759 was you were and I where in Iraq? 205 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:36.440 Were you Bakwaba northeast of Baghdad? 206 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.919 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you were in the Sunni 207 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:40.600 Triangle there. 208 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:42.919 That's exactly what I was going to say, the Sunny Triangle, 209 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:44.440 but I didn't know if I was going to resonate 210 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.120 much people, But yeah, the Sony Triangle. 211 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.399 So I was in that area too. We were at 212 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.559 Bob Wilson, we closed it down and then we went 213 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.240 over to Fob Normandy, which is the reason they have 214 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:55.200 that name. Holy Cow. 215 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.399 Absolutely. Yeah, we used to get air support from a ballad. 216 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.200 Oh yeah, I was there in OIF one. We made 217 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.279 her eventually met our way there, going through Dogwood and Nasiria. 218 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:12.279 But yeah, it's to me, you know, obviously the first 219 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.080 tour for me was just it was about survival. We 220 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.360 lived in can you know, we got all our water 221 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.000 from the water buffalo. We burned our own waist, all 222 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.200 of it human and. 223 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:24.720 We did that. We did as well man. 224 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.919 Yeah, and so I didn't really think too much about 225 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.159 it during OIF one But as the tours continued, especially 226 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.679 my third tour when I was one of my additional 227 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:38.480 responsibilities was being a contracting officer and the coar to 228 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:42.360 seeing how much money was going out and what you 229 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.039 were getting in return for it. And then you know 230 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.919 the Sons of Iraq. They were giving people four hundred 231 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.919 dollars a month, They gave them a name just so 232 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.559 they went and attack us. They were literally paying them off. 233 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:57.200 But as these things progressed, you understand once again that 234 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.480 this was something much bigger than the lies of nine 235 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.039 to eleven, the lies of getting into Iraq both times. 236 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.000 A lot of people aren't even aware of what happened 237 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.759 back in ninety in the lives that happened then. But 238 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.519 it's it's a much bigger, a much more evil plan, 239 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.080 and all of these things have to happen, number one 240 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.080 to get the mineral resources, but number two to bring 241 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.279 about a new world order. Most of the countries who 242 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:25.879 where our enemies, and for those listening I'm doing the 243 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:29.600 air quotes, they're not friends with the Rothschilds. They don't 244 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:32.080 have those type of international bankers in their countries, nor 245 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:33.919 do they allow them. 246 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.039 Yeah, yeah, and that's another thing you know, being prepped 247 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.120 to go over to the Middle East, you know, essentially Iraq. 248 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.279 You know, you're told to looking for the weapons of 249 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.679 mass destruction. But then you get there and you're like, man, 250 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.200 everything's built out of Adobe. 251 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:49.320 It's Adobe homes. 252 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.399 I mean, you're just like, where do they even have 253 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.600 the money or the technology when they don't even have 254 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:55.960 any type of infrastructure. 255 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:00.720 They even when we gave them our humb's they maintain them. 256 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:02.679 Yeah, absolutely, yeah. 257 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.159 And you know you mentioned sons about Iraq, and it's 258 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.639 just like those are just terrorists that that wanted to 259 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.759 be I guess influential in their society or in their communities. 260 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:17.080 And then it's like, yeah, you're constantly battling them, the 261 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.879 Iraqi Army. Yeah, it's you know, it was just a 262 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.159 revolving circle of like, man, what As you get older 263 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:26.960 and more wiser, you're like, man, what what did we accomplish? 264 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:27.159 There? 265 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:32.799 Absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, unfortunately, And and it's a thing 266 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.200 I don't dwell on. I don't, you know, because I'm 267 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.879 not a person who dwells on the past. We can't 268 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:38.840 change it. But that's why I kind of do the 269 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:40.759 things I do. I don't want it to happen again 270 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:47.639 to another generation. Absolutely, let's talk more a little bit 271 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.120 about flat Earth. What were if you want to talk 272 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.480 about your six bullets, what are kind of the things 273 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:57.000 as you were investigating that were proofs that were like, 274 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:00.200 you know, this is too strong for me to to 275 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.639 ignore flat Earth. Wrote was your you know, top five 276 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:05.080 or six proofs of flat. 277 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:09.200 I'd say, yeah, number one is the moon landing. You know, 278 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.039 I always thought to myself, Wow, it would be cool 279 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:12.759 to go back to the moon. You know, you go 280 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.200 in sixty nine, but you've never been back. So I've 281 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.639 always questioned that. So once I figured out that, hey, 282 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.720 we've never went to the moon, that kind of brought 283 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.039 me to the cycle of man. 284 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.559 This art's got to be biblical. It's got to you know. 285 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.600 It says it in Genesis right there, and says in 286 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:29.679 multiple scriptures throughout the Bible that we live on a 287 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:33.799 you know, essentially a flat plane with a dome. 288 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.440 So once I completely understood. 289 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.679 Christ and you know, accepted him as a savior, then 290 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.240 I I took the Bible as literal. You know, I 291 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.720 didn't translated into a way that made it make sense 292 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:49.600 to the society that I live in. I just took 293 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:53.039 it as a literal bible and that was probably my 294 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.440 biggest wake up call on flat earth. 295 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.559 Flight patterns. That was a big one, you know, flight patterns. 296 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.200 That's a huge one. 297 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:05.279 Now, being able to see too far. 298 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.200 When you were flying and you know, internationally, say to Iraq, 299 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.159 whatever were you ever on one of the planes that 300 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.080 had like it showed you where you were and how 301 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.960 you were flying, Like when we left Fort Drum in 302 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.519 two thousand and three, it showed the plane going up 303 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:23.759 around Canada, Newfoundland, Greenland and then coming back down And 304 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:25.879 that makes no sense at all. Is that something that 305 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.279 you ever thought about when you were flying? 306 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.159 That's exactly what I thought about when I flew from 307 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.399 So we took off from Fairbanks, Alaska, and we flew 308 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.919 directly to Germany and that flight pattern that they showed 309 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.399 on the map was like, Man, that just doesn't look right. 310 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:43.840 So if you put that onto a flat earth map, 311 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.279 it makes complete sense. But they manipulated with the curve 312 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.120 on the There's a lot of manipulation in our society, man, 313 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.600 And those are things where it's like, doesn't look right 314 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.679 in my head. You know what my eyes are seeing 315 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.120 is I don't see in a foreign language. What I'm 316 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.399 seeing is what I'm saying, and it's it doesn't it 317 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:04.440 doesn't go right with me. 318 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:10.119 Yeah, And I often wonder when, at what point of 319 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:14.119 our life do they or how do they manipulate us? 320 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:19.160 Because this is a really big mind screw right to 321 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:25.039 believe something you don't feel or see or touch or 322 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.319 smell or taste. You know, when we have our senses 323 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.880 and they look at you and say you're spinning at 324 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:36.319 a thousand miles per hour and we just ad okable 325 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.640 and like if if you actually take the time and 326 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.480 stop and think about it, like we believe that people 327 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:50.119 are upside down, think about this. The Australian military are parachuting. 328 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:53.400 Just think about this. Think about the Australian military parachuting. 329 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:57.839 Are they jumping up or are they jumping down? 330 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.079 Exactly? It's simple and it's pseudoscience, man. 331 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:04.440 Yeah. 332 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.839 And it goes back to people who would rather have 333 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.039 blinders on that won't take the even if it starts 334 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:16.200 to resonate. For some people, I think it scares them. 335 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.920 I think the lie is when they realized the lie 336 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:24.160 is so big, it scares them back into the blue pill. 337 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.359 Correct. Absolutely, it's crazy and. 338 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.160 You would mention the Apollo missions. You know, Apollo Levin 339 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.160 was you know, I saw a little documentary that it wasn't, 340 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.240 you know, a big movie production or anything, but a 341 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:47.039 truther had made about a thirty minute presentation on Neil Armstrong. 342 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.359 And now he disappeared off the face of the earth 343 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.359 after the moon landing, and the only time he really 344 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.799 spoke publicly was when Clinton tapped him in nineteen ninety 345 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:01.680 four to speak at the twenty fifth anniversary. It's very interesting, 346 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.680 and if I can find it today, I'll go back 347 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.440 and try to find it and I'll put it in 348 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.759 the show notes for today's program, because you know I've 349 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.559 mentioned this is another thing if you sit down and 350 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.079 think about if you are the first man, right, It's 351 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.359 one thing to be the first person to get three 352 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.400 thousand hits in Major League Baseball, or the first basketball 353 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.440 player to get x amount of points, you know whatever, 354 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.279 But to be the first man, I mean, we're talking 355 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:32.359 history books to leave the Earth and land on another planet. 356 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:36.160 And again this is according to them. I mean, there's 357 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.440 nothing here on Earth that could ever top that. And 358 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:43.720 I would be on every cereal box, every shoe commercial. 359 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.599 Michael Jordan, he can only jump and slam a basketball. 360 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:50.200 I'm on the moon and that guy literally he disappeared 361 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:51.200 off the face of the earth. 362 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:58.440 Yeah, a lot of astronauts. Yeah, there's like grisome his story. 363 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.799 I mean, when man's greatest accomplishment is also his greatest lies, 364 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.200 it's just like, that's where you start question everything. 365 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.319 And that is you put that perfectly. When man's greatest 366 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.880 accomplishment is man's greatest lie, that's a big deal. I 367 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:18.720 think you know that they tried to replicate the Apollo 368 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.400 eleven with twelve. Nobody paid attention at all, and I 369 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.240 think people were concerned. I think that's the whole reason 370 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.720 they came up with the Apollo thirteen concoction and the 371 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.079 nonsense with that and using gravity to swing back around. 372 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.599 I mean that is complete nonsense as well. But people 373 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:36.160 eat it up. 374 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.359 Well, I mean people eat it up because that's what 375 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.640 we were taught, right. It's crazy we've been we were 376 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.759 taught one way. Then you get a little older and 377 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.920 they're like, wow, that's absolutely not true. 378 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.519 Yepent City and buoyancy. 379 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.440 One hundred percent something I wanted to talk about with 380 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:57.599 you because people this is one of the things people 381 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:00.359 are mixed on is that you do believe that there 382 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.519 are lands beyond the ice wall. Give us your thoughts 383 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:03.839 on that. 384 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:05.680 Yeah, so. 385 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:13.200 Digging into scripture, you know, the Fallen Angels, stuff like that, 386 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.960 I do believe that we do have lands beyond the 387 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.920 ice wall. I don't know how many, I mean, nobody, 388 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:20.960 you know, I don't know, but that's what I believe. 389 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:24.920 I do think it's the Fallen Angels, the netlum whatever 390 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:30.599 you want to call it. And yeah, you know, I've 391 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.279 watched podcasts where they've tracked ships that were like nine 392 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:40.160 hundred miles inland and of Antarctica, you know, when you're 393 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.720 talking about like the Summers Gates, Leviathan Gates. 394 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:45.599 You know, I guess certain seasons they open up. I 395 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:46.359 don't know. 396 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.640 I can't prove it obviously, but that's just when it 397 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:53.599 comes to scripture, it's kind of what I kind of 398 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.480 what I believe now, just given the fact that everything 399 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.079 that I know now has been a lie, and so, 400 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.960 you know, doing my research and biblical scripture, it's kind 401 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:05.319