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Speaker 1: and Adam Krautwurz from the d Ben Fantasy Football Podcast
Speaker 1: drafted Jamar Chase number one. Tonight, the Miscelli tandem Drew
Speaker 1: and Josh Miscelli drafting number two. They go Brock Bauers
Speaker 1: first tight end off the board at the one o two.
Speaker 4: Tonight.
Speaker 1: John Dagel from Established the mun goes b John Robinson
Speaker 1: at the one o three. John Zeleski hitting cleanup Tonight
Speaker 1: he drafts Jamiir Gibbs at the one oh four. Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley goes to Fantasy and Frames and Player Profiler Stacey Perez.
Speaker 1: She gets Barkley there, Jefferson and Lamb respectively to Rob Vieira,
Speaker 1: one of the more successful FFPC Joe's around. I've done
Speaker 1: a ton of shows them. Very knowledgeable guy and an
Speaker 1: excellent pickleball player as well on pickleball coach. Interesting, yes,
Speaker 1: very interesting. Ceede. Lamb goes to Fantasy Lives Dwayne McFarlane
Speaker 1: at the one oh seven. Ashton Genty goes to Don Barani,
Speaker 1: Nick Costantino, and Shawn Stutsman. Tonight, the go Bills former
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Speaker 1: Genty at the one aweight Malik Neighbors to the Stealing
Speaker 1: bananas guy. That's guys, excuse me, that's Sean Siegel from
Speaker 1: row is Ben Gretch from Stealing Signals. And then you
Speaker 1: have the Hooks that is Ben and Randall hook FFPC.
Speaker 1: Joe's that draft Trey McBride at the one ten Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey to Matt Schlf That is Mattchelf from Draft sharks
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Speaker 1: up the leaderboard here in a second with what we
Speaker 1: have all time for the pros versus Joe's. But I
Speaker 1: think Matt's like top fifteen all time, He's right up there.
Speaker 1: And then a mon ros Saint Brown to Dana Motto
Speaker 1: at the one twelve, the final Joe for the evening.
Speaker 1: So number one Sean Green wants to note, TERP, what
Speaker 1: jersey is?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: Is that DeShawn Jackson that you're rocking tonight.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's a specialty jersey. Why thirteen years ago? Sad story,
Speaker 2: but my mom passed away. She was a diehard Eagles fan,
Speaker 2: so her name the nickname that we caught her as
Speaker 2: on the back here, it's just the number thirteen, which
Speaker 2: was her birthday.
Speaker 1: Ah got it, got it so cut that you can't
Speaker 1: even get this anywhere. Don't even try.
Speaker 2: It's like the can't people think it's Nelson Aguilar and
Speaker 2: it's not Nelson Aguilar, so please don't put that in
Speaker 2: your brain. Is not Nelson Aguila.
Speaker 1: So we're we're through the first round tonight, turp I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up. Darren Rmani posted this on
Speaker 1: X earlier this afternoon. He thought that this was the
Speaker 1: most talented group of Joe's in this year's In this
Speaker 1: year's contest, you have the Miscelis, who obviously uh play
Speaker 1: a lot of the higher stakes leagues, the fives five
Speaker 1: K leagues out at the Vegas Live events at Paris Casino.
Speaker 1: John Zeleski, who's been in this I believe he's been
Speaker 1: in pros versus Joe's before. He's another really good best
Speaker 1: ball player. I already told you about. Rob Vieira, Constantino,
Speaker 1: Stuftsman and Baranyi are.
Speaker 2: The only they're not they're definitely not Joe's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only ones ever to do it. And then you
Speaker 1: have the hooks with Ben and Randall, and then Dana
Speaker 1: Motto who's a very accomplished player as well. This is
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think the pros already understand, they
Speaker 1: know what they're getting in for, and it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be easy. But like I'm not trying to be hyperbolic,
Speaker 1: this is a really from top to bottom. All six
Speaker 1: of these Joe's teams super talented.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. This is extremely tough draft. Looking at
Speaker 2: all the things when they came out, I definitely picked
Speaker 2: this one as just murderers row. I mean, there's no
Speaker 2: easy spots in here where you're getting any value. This
Speaker 2: is pretty much go get your guy type of thing
Speaker 2: and then just hope it works out.
Speaker 1: Turp, what do you? Let's talk about the first round here,
Speaker 1: brock Bauers at the one oh two. This is earlier
Speaker 1: than he normally goes. Again, for anybody who's watching this,
Speaker 1: this is a tight end premium format, so tight ends
Speaker 1: go a little bit earlier. There's no kickers, no defenses,
Speaker 1: best ball, so it's set it and forget it. The
Speaker 1: lineup will be one quarterback, two running backs, two receivers,
Speaker 1: a tight end, and two flexes. So you could start
Speaker 1: up to three tight ends, and again you don't start them.
Speaker 1: This is what the what the scoring system automatically decides
Speaker 1: after the week is over for optimized lineups. But what
Speaker 1: do you make of brock Bowers at the one oh
Speaker 1: two over guys like Robinson, Gibbs, Barkley at Jefferson and Lamb.
Speaker 2: It's not for me. I'm definitely taking Robinson, you know, Gibbs, Barkley, Jefferson,
Speaker 2: Lamb and maybe maybe McCaffrey over over Bowers. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to sit here and say I won't have some
Speaker 2: of ours, but not that high. I just feel like
Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a reach overall compared to
Speaker 2: some of the guys just went directly after him, Like,
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm taking Bowers, Verijon Robinson.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: You know, the people think there's a big drop off
Speaker 2: a tight end this year after the top three, and
Speaker 2: there is based off you know, a lot of things
Speaker 2: that are out there when it comes to andrews Kelsey, Laporta, Hockinson,
Speaker 2: guys like that they're not as sexy as the top three.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like, you know, Jefferson, Lamb, Robinson, Gibbs, Barkley,
Speaker 2: you know, and a couple other guys. I probably would
Speaker 2: take over Bowers because I don't think the advantage is
Speaker 2: there as much as people think there is, and I
Speaker 2: really just believe that the running backs there, especially when
Speaker 2: you're picking at the beginning. I feel like if you
Speaker 2: could secure Robinson a Gibbs a Barkley type of start,
Speaker 2: it gives you so much roster flexibility going through the
Speaker 2: next couple of rounds that you know, if Kittle comes
Speaker 2: back to you, kit'll make sense. And if Kittle doesn't
Speaker 2: make that you literally can just pound receiver and running
Speaker 2: back for a while and still have you know, solid
Speaker 2: tight end options, especially in the best ball format.
Speaker 1: You know, we got Bradley le Salvia chiming in on
Speaker 1: YouTube right now. While to see Boers moving up like
Speaker 1: he is. Love to see that people are buying into
Speaker 1: him on paper. He has the potential to keep bawling
Speaker 1: out and I think that that's a great point. He
Speaker 1: obviously could. I think about how close he and McBride
Speaker 1: were last year. Uh, Turp and McBride just could not
Speaker 1: find the the worst.
Speaker 2: Runout in the world, the worst I mean when it
Speaker 2: comes to Trey McBride. You can't for as good as
Speaker 2: season as he had, because he had great season. You
Speaker 2: had a couple more touchdowns in here, and you're talking
Speaker 2: about Trey McBride going next to Jamar Chies. People are
Speaker 2: you know, is there really a difference between both. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I will take the cheaper guy in
Speaker 2: any way downgrading Bowers his talent or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, based off roster construction and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. I feel like taking Bowers there just kind
Speaker 2: of puts you a little bit behind the eight ball.
Speaker 2: I mean, it worked out for him because aj Brown
Speaker 2: fell in the second round, so that just like you know,
Speaker 2: you know, gets things a little you know, going a
Speaker 2: little bit more. But Jay Brown usually doesn't fall to
Speaker 2: that spot, so you know, it usually won't work out
Speaker 2: like that, and you're gonna looking at guys that maybe
Speaker 2: don't excite you as much.
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Speaker 1: I apologize, I am sorry, I am late ter, especially
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Speaker 4: Then he understands the flow of some of my poor attendants.
Speaker 4: You know, my my schedule was thwarted by an amorous
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Speaker 4: I have moved on, and then of course I've had
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of sock work to do.
Speaker 6: Uh second place, second place people are depending. I'm working
Speaker 6: on a lot of socks. I've got socks here, Farrell.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I had a meeting, an f
Speaker 1: FPC meeting today and unprompted, FFPC co founder Alex Kaganofsky
Speaker 1: brought it up because he was watching one of the streams.
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Speaker 1: So speaking of shared greatness, what about John Daegel here,
Speaker 1: this is, this is the buzz in the in the
Speaker 1: chat room right now with what he did in the
Speaker 1: second round. He gets Bijon Robinson obviously at at the
Speaker 1: at the one o three tonight, but then he goes
Speaker 1: and gets Amari and Hampton tonight at the two ten
Speaker 1: Omari and Hampton's ADP and the f FPC Bestball Tournament,
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Speaker 1: FFPC dot com. The ADP and that for Hampton is
Speaker 1: all the way down at running back fifteen at the
Speaker 1: four oh two. Dagel says, screw that, I'm taking him
Speaker 1: as running back nine at the two oh two two
Speaker 1: full rounds earlier, Pharrell, this is a guy who is
Speaker 1: getting his guys.
Speaker 4: In John Dagele tonight, he punched the wrong player, and
Speaker 4: you know, we all make mistakes, swimmers sometimes working so
Speaker 4: that's exactly what he did. He punched the wrong player. Interp.
Speaker 4: I joined Turp, and I'm listening to Interp. Everything you
Speaker 4: said about the other tight ends and correct. Everything you
Speaker 4: said about brock Bauers is wrong. Brock Bauers should continue
Speaker 4: to shoot up the boards because brock Bauers and I've
Speaker 4: had some some I want to give you a number.
Speaker 4: I've had four NFL players tell me, unrelated and across
Speaker 4: different spectrums of activity, that brock Bauers is the best
Speaker 4: football player they've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I love Black brock Bower.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I love him too. I won't draft him
Speaker 4: at one, but I love him at two. And anyone
Speaker 4: that is in business with brock Bauers is in business
Speaker 4: with a difference maker. But everything else you said about
Speaker 4: those other tight ends that are going to catch fifty
Speaker 4: or sixty passes are correct. That's a classic case of overpaying.
Speaker 4: And you know what, it guarantees that you get talked
Speaker 4: about by Bulky and that's something that's very valuable, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I'll put a put a bow on the
Speaker 1: Bowers versus McBride conversation.
Speaker 4: Is that any different than putting a pin in it?
Speaker 1: Well, well, technically I'll be putting a pin in it
Speaker 1: because I feel like this is not the last conversation
Speaker 1: we're gonna have about Bowers.
Speaker 2: US won't get this year.
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, guys, it may just come down
Speaker 1: to if you're drafting in the top four or top five,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take Bowers if you want to take an
Speaker 1: early round tight end. If you're drafting in the back
Speaker 1: half of the first round and you want to take
Speaker 1: an early round tight end, then mcride makes the most
Speaker 1: sense there, unless you want to try for Kittle on
Speaker 1: the way back too. The other thing you do is
Speaker 1: if you're in the top five spots, technically you could
Speaker 1: skip Bowers and then try to get George Kittle in
Speaker 1: the second or third.
Speaker 2: That could happen. But he's been moving. He's been moving.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't make it. If you're in the
Speaker 2: top five in this draft, he doesn't make it back
Speaker 2: like that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. He did not tonight. He did not tonight,
Speaker 1: So you are he's definitely.
Speaker 2: He's definitely a guy that I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: if Jennings has some holdout issues, if Pearsall is not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, I haven't feeling the Kittle by the
Speaker 2: time we drafted at Paris in Vegas, I got a
Speaker 2: feeling that Kittle can continue to move up because like
Speaker 2: lad McConkie Thomas. I'm not saying they're stale right now,
Speaker 2: but like they're not like the names that are getting
Speaker 2: moved up draft boards right now.
Speaker 4: What do you think Kittle so much in his performance
Speaker 4: this year? I am willing to learn and listen.
Speaker 2: I don't really have that much George Kittle personally. I
Speaker 2: like the receivers that are being drafted around this range
Speaker 2: over him. I'm more of a weight on wait a
Speaker 2: little bit down the road tight That was.
Speaker 4: Not the question. The question was what do you love
Speaker 4: about George Kittle to make me I like him?
Speaker 2: He's probably my favorite football player than yeah Non Eagle.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is an absolute warrior play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a warrior, but he is not a
Speaker 4: He's not.
Speaker 2: Blocks too much. Injuries are a question, but I mean
Speaker 2: you can paint the picture that he's tight end won
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 4: We have some of the now we have some of
Speaker 4: the greatest forty nine er fans ever in the history
Speaker 4: of football. In one Drew Masselli participating Where's it, Where's
Speaker 4: Drew drafting bookan.
Speaker 1: Sean Green where he took powers in the two spots,
Speaker 1: so he was the Bowery.
Speaker 4: Well see, I didn't even know that. And and but
Speaker 4: when we examined the forty nine ers and we look
Speaker 4: at what happened last year, it was great between the twenties,
Speaker 4: and it was terrible in the red zone, even with Kittle.
Speaker 4: It's a situation. I mean, even the kicker, God forbid,
Speaker 4: he gets outside forty yards, he misses everything. This is
Speaker 4: not the same team it was. Is Kittle going to
Speaker 4: lead this team? And who else is going to bring
Speaker 4: them back? Who else is going to bring them back?
Speaker 4: For the kind of of five is that we need
Speaker 4: to have out of all that fantasy value that exists
Speaker 4: in the forty nine er lineup, I think all of
Speaker 4: it is a bit overpriced. Sadly, I have to say
Speaker 4: the same thing about Kittle. Turp am I ridiculously wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't have that much Kittle early on. I'm not.
Speaker 4: What I want to know is if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong at all. I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: click the button. I'm not afraid to click the button
Speaker 2: because I do see the path where he gets there.
Speaker 2: But I won't click the button over some of these
Speaker 2: receivers and probably like a player like definitely not ever
Speaker 2: eteen and definitely probably not ever Bucky Airby.
Speaker 1: Guys, I want to I want to add some flavor
Speaker 1: from John Dagel on his x account and he posted
Speaker 1: this about five hours before he drafted Omari and Hampton
Speaker 1: at the two UH at the two ten tonight. This
Speaker 1: is from John Dagel at Nacha Dagel on X Omari
Speaker 1: and Hampton is inevitably going to Skyrocket and ADP after
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh stated to day he doesn't know if Nag
Speaker 1: Harris will be back for training camp. This is interesting,
Speaker 1: Uh that that that Harbaugh said this today, and I
Speaker 1: think we see the reason why Dangel goes and grabs
Speaker 1: his guy in hand. He could be right, And honestly,
Speaker 1: when people see this watching the stream say wow, Dangel
Speaker 1: took Hampton at the two ten tonight. Dagel could be
Speaker 1: partially responsible for USPIKE an ADP in the f f
Speaker 1: PC with l Mari and Hampton, Dagel and and UH
Speaker 1: and obviously Jim Harbaugh as well. So I think that's
Speaker 1: we're connecting the dots here and finding out what happened,
Speaker 1: uh with with that selection tonight. Let's let's go back, guys.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to that Brian Thomas pick.
Speaker 1: I think it was Scott Hoyt in the f f
Speaker 1: PC YouTube chat said that was good value for the
Speaker 1: Go Bills guys, getting Brian Thomas to pair with Ashton
Speaker 1: Genty there tonight. Brian Thomas normally goes at the two
Speaker 1: oh four, so it's slightly below a d p Uh,
Speaker 1: But turp, what do you make of Brian Thomas now
Speaker 1: contending for targets in that Jacksonville offense? Although Liam Cohen
Speaker 1: will be the OC there this year? What do you
Speaker 1: make of him contending for targets with Travis Hunter, the
Speaker 1: guy that they gave up a boatload for to trade
Speaker 1: up to draft in this year's NFL draft.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a little bit of a worry. But I
Speaker 2: love Brian Thomas. I mean, Coachery came out, you know,
Speaker 2: saying a lot of positive things, how the offense is
Speaker 2: gonna run through him. I believe that, you know, I
Speaker 2: know they traded a bunch of Travis Huner, but there's
Speaker 2: so much unknown with Travis Hunter right now, Like, do
Speaker 2: I ever see him being the outfit in that offense.
Speaker 2: I don't Bryan Thomas is that guy. You know obviously,
Speaker 2: you know you have a little bit of a worry
Speaker 2: about injury risk with Brian Thomas, But I don't worry
Speaker 2: about that stuff. The talent's there. He's one of my
Speaker 2: I probably would draft Brian Thomas right after Ceedee Lamb personally,
Speaker 2: that's how much I like him. I love that offense.
Speaker 2: I love Trevor Lawrence. I've been very outspoken on Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence this offseason. I really think the Jaguars take that
Speaker 2: next step, you know, where Lawrence really gets to that
Speaker 2: potential that most people thought he was gonna have when
Speaker 2: he came out Liam Cohen, I thought it was a
Speaker 2: slam dunk higher. You do worry, you know, you've seen
Speaker 2: it all over you know where these guys get hired
Speaker 2: after big years as offensive coordinators and they fall flat.
Speaker 2: So it's definitely in the range of possibilities where it's
Speaker 2: a possibility, but I don't.
Speaker 4: See it Lawrence. With Lawrence is if not now, when
Speaker 4: and you've you've got it.
Speaker 2: If it's not. If it's not now, I mean, he
Speaker 2: has tons of weapons and when it comes to you know,
Speaker 2: a young running back in two and Etn is still there.
Speaker 2: You know Brown, they just brought in, obviously, Travis Hunter, Obviously,
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Strange is a solid tight end. You know,
Speaker 2: the Jaguars have plenty of weapons to get there. And
Speaker 2: it all starts with Trevor Lawrence and it is going.
Speaker 4: To turn that back. Maybe it's got to be twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two again.
Speaker 2: If it's not now for Trevor Lawrence, he's probably on
Speaker 2: his way out and he might get another year, but
Speaker 2: that's probably it.
Speaker 4: When it comes to Oh my god, if he changed
Speaker 4: locations and went somewhere else and blossomed into what he
Speaker 4: could be, wouldn't.
Speaker 2: That be a I mean, anything's possible. I mean, Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield different, different type of situation, but I mean, look
Speaker 2: how it worked out for him in Tampa Bay. It did.
Speaker 4: Look it did work out nicely. Hey, Donky, have you
Speaker 4: talked about my girl Stacey Perez tonight?
Speaker 1: I was just about to because Steph Miller chimed in
Speaker 1: on her spot getting t Higgins at three oh five.
Speaker 1: I thought that was nice value too. Higgins is kind
Speaker 1: of a conundrum because we know when he's at his best,
Speaker 1: he could be the best number two wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the league. Obviously, Jamar Chase is the number one there
Speaker 1: in Sincy, but we know he's gonna miss games too.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is he missed games last year and he
Speaker 1: still was like a top twenty five receiver. He missed
Speaker 1: like four or five games, which is crazy. And I
Speaker 1: like what Stacy did here too, Like you're you're talking
Speaker 1: about winning first place, You're talking about winning you know, Listen,
Speaker 1: we could all use a pair of socks, obviously, but
Speaker 1: she's getting her guys here and to get T Higgins.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if Stacy likes T Higgins.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, but I know that that she
Speaker 1: recognizes the upside of Higgins here, so getting him at
Speaker 1: the three oh five tonight represents a huge boon and
Speaker 1: trying to win first place. So I like that pick
Speaker 1: for sure. What do you make the rest of her
Speaker 1: team with Barkley in London and she's about to be on.
Speaker 4: The clock, Farrell, That's what I would have done early
Speaker 4: with Barkley. I would have pulled the trigger there. Turt
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't, but I would. And we had commentators last
Speaker 4: night that came in that were drafting, and one of
Speaker 4: the gentlemen said that he viewed Drake London as some
Speaker 4: of the best talent in the league and for this draft.
Speaker 4: And if you're ever gonna you know, he's in the
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence turt rule. If you have not now win,
Speaker 4: you know. She cut her teeth. Her first high stakes
Speaker 4: fantasy football event was when she came to the KFFSC
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. And you know, for full disclosure, Stacey somewhere.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we're related to my mother's niece
Speaker 4: and a great need I don't know, but she's a
Speaker 4: lovely person, and she's a talented person, and she's run
Speaker 4: with this sh She's run with this fantasy football hobby
Speaker 4: as quickly and as far as a girl can. And
Speaker 4: I'll be damned, she just stacked it up. I'm liking
Speaker 4: it more all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe burn On the fourth to go with t
Speaker 1: Higgins here. To be interesting to see what she does.
Speaker 1: She could get a I mean, obviously it's not gonna
Speaker 1: get Chaser or Chase Brown, but it'd be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what she does with a certain tight end or
Speaker 1: maybe another receiver here later on in the draft that
Speaker 1: really get that Bengal Stack.
Speaker 4: Going, Hey, Terr Rubio came in with something and Rubio says,
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is a coach killer. I think the coach
Speaker 4: is Trevor's, right, I believe before the Trevor Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's definitely, you know, Trevor Lawrence like this year
Speaker 2: is like so so important for the rest of his
Speaker 2: career because the talent's there. That they did everything possible
Speaker 2: to get Travis Hunter, and they traded probably too much
Speaker 2: to get him. Brian Thomas coming off a big time
Speaker 2: year pretty much without Trevor Lawrence playing. I mean, he
Speaker 2: doesn't have any more excuses built in anymore. Those are
Speaker 2: those are done. So I think Trevor Lawrence is a
Speaker 2: great pick this year. But it's it's possible if he
Speaker 2: doesn't figure it out above you know, the brain cells,
Speaker 2: if it all them click talents there, it's just Kenny
Speaker 2: Kenny figure out the rest of the game. And that's
Speaker 2: where the question, that's the same question I have with
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, same time situation.
Speaker 1: This guy I must be the Trevor Lawrence fan in
Speaker 1: in this in this show tonight because last year he
Speaker 1: gets hurt. But the two years before that, he threw
Speaker 1: for twenty plus touchdowns, which crand isn't awesome, but it
Speaker 1: was four thousand yards both those years. And he gets
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen this year. I if you look at and
Speaker 1: I don't have this in front of me, and you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna call me out and say, Bulk, you're
Speaker 1: making this up. I'm not making this up. You would
Speaker 1: be surprised how often he finished as a top twelve
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. I
Speaker 1: don't twenty twenty one obviously, that was I believe that
Speaker 1: was his rookie year, right, and uh, and he was
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 2: Then you're on a hundred percent, right. I love Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence this year. He's one of my highest quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's my pointterp is like I feel like this,
Speaker 1: this belief that he's not been good is is because
Speaker 1: we view number one overall picks as having this higher
Speaker 1: bar to get over and Lawrence has not been able
Speaker 1: to ascend to that bar. Well, now you're talking about
Speaker 1: like because people believe that, and myself included over the
Speaker 1: past couple of years. This year not so quarterback eighteen guys,
Speaker 1: he is the eighteenth quarterback going right now. I just
Speaker 1: feel like fantastic value for him. Herbert May, McCarthy, goff
Speaker 1: are all going in front of him. He's just ahead
Speaker 1: of Love, He's just ahead of Stroud. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Lawrence this year, and I think he gets it.
Speaker 4: You can't go wrong at eighteen. Bonkey, do you think
Speaker 4: that it's a bit out of character and a bit
Speaker 4: off of center? The URF is so agreeable this year
Speaker 4: because it last night he wore some sort of piece
Speaker 4: neck sweatshirt and you know, he's very, very agreeable.
Speaker 2: And that's not always true. I might be agreeable on this,
Speaker 2: but I was just on a stream with j D
Speaker 2: drafted a Beastball draft, and I said on the stream
Speaker 2: that the team that picked directly next to us was
Speaker 2: the worst basketball team I ever seen drafted. When that airs,
Speaker 2: that guy is probably gonna see it and be like.
Speaker 4: You know, they're going to say, you pay for me.
Speaker 4: But in reality, they played.
Speaker 2: Your final war with Keon Coleman as your wide receiver.
Speaker 2: To hey, maybe you know more than the rest of
Speaker 2: the world, but.
Speaker 1: How many besides after Coleman, URP, how many receivers did
Speaker 1: that guy drive I.
Speaker 2: Don't think he took another one to like the thirteenth
Speaker 2: or fourteenth round, so you can picture some of the
Speaker 2: drek he was putting together. It was, it was. It
Speaker 2: helped us because we were picking two.
Speaker 4: But it was the first running back in the fifth
Speaker 4: round for team too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got the Miscellies, Drew and Josh Miscelli. Right now,
Speaker 1: skip running back until the fifth round where they get
Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard to go with Lamar Jackson, brock Bauers, A J.
Speaker 1: Brown and Terry McLaurin Pharaoh. What do you make about
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin not reporting today? Is this a non story?
Speaker 1: They're going to figure it out?
Speaker 4: Please get it done? And yes, I hope so. And
Speaker 4: that's that's a general manager that's got to deliver that deal.
Speaker 2: So this this has to happen. It needs to happen soon.
Speaker 2: You got to figure it out. I mean, they have
Speaker 2: a quarterback that's free right now. I mean you gotta
Speaker 2: do it everything possible to get as many weapons around
Speaker 2: him as possible.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's more about language than money. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I said I was gonna make some phone calls, like
Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance to. I'll make more phone calls,
Speaker 4: and we'll have more of an answer next week. But
Speaker 4: by then it's probably not to be a non story
Speaker 4: because you probably.
Speaker 2: Already real quick before. We keep going so far through
Speaker 2: five rounds, and I've looked at all the drafts that
Speaker 2: we've done so far, there's one team here that I
Speaker 2: think is clear cut above any team that's been drafted
Speaker 2: so far through five rounds, oh of any of any
Speaker 2: of the pros versus Joe so far, I really, really,
Speaker 2: you know, a great value that fell to him all
Speaker 2: things considered, based off where he's going, and just an
Speaker 2: overall well drafted team so far.
Speaker 4: A lot of draft left well, didn't spill it.
Speaker 2: Team one, the Boys, the defense, Yeah, Marvin Harrison far
Speaker 2: up falling where he fell. You know, Tech McMillan has
Speaker 2: been going consistently. We just took him in the fourth
Speaker 2: round three hours ago, so he's starting to move up
Speaker 2: the draft boards to get him where he fell. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you could say anything now neative about
Speaker 2: Team one so far. I mean Gary Wilson, who should
Speaker 2: get nine thousand targets, and Jonathan Taylor with Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: you know, and obviously Jamar Chase I love their start.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, you know they're friends of mine, so
Speaker 2: I'm a little biased, but it's really really hard to
Speaker 2: have to love what they've done so far.
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison goes normally at the three twelve in the FFPC.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a full round of value. We had,
Speaker 1: we had. Steph Miller already chime in that that was
Speaker 1: a nice turn for Mike Chop and Adam Krauhorz there,
Speaker 1: Chase Wilson, Harrison, McMillan, JT is the running back there.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens and how they build it going forward. Guys,
Speaker 1: I want to bring us back. I know we're in
Speaker 1: the fifth round. I'm gonna go back to the fourth
Speaker 1: round here real quick, parallel. I'll pitch this to you
Speaker 1: and Turp, I want you to weigh in on this.
Speaker 1: The Achievers posted on YouTube that they were surprised that
Speaker 1: Ben Gretch and Sean Siegel the stealing Bananas guys drafting
Speaker 1: from the nine hole tonight. They're surprised that they did
Speaker 1: not take Xavier Worthy. And I know Sean is a
Speaker 1: big Xavier Worthy fan and they eschew him. They let
Speaker 1: him go to the go Bills guys, and they take JSN.
Speaker 1: Steph Miller said, if JSN wasn't there, Worthy would have
Speaker 1: been the pick, at least for her pharaoh. What would
Speaker 1: you have done faced with a JSN versus Exavier Worthy
Speaker 1: conundrum here tonight like the stealing bananas guys were at
Speaker 1: four oh four.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't have to make that decision. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know next week they would do it differently,
Speaker 4: and I understand the choice. And let's see how they
Speaker 4: build the team. It looks like we're it looks like
Speaker 4: we're stacking up some Seattle's like that this format. So yeah,
Speaker 4: there's nothing there's certainly nothing wrong with that pickover Worthy.
Speaker 1: Worthy might be a little more exciting to watch, Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's my point too, well, not my point, but
Speaker 1: I think that goes with what I'm about to say here, Turp.
Speaker 1: I think with the return of Rockie Rice and I
Speaker 1: think it was Scott Hoyt was asking us to to
Speaker 1: weigh in on how long the suspension is going to be.
Speaker 1: I really have no idea.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the the crystal ball. I've got
Speaker 4: a crystal over there, so I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what's going to happen. But I do know for
Speaker 1: the majority of the season, as long as Rice is healthy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing for Kansas City. I'm worried that
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy goes back to a traditional uh lidlifter UH.
Speaker 1: He joins Hollywood Brown as the field flippers with Rashie
Speaker 1: Rice and Travis Kelcey taking care of the possession stuff
Speaker 1: in the first ten yards past the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would take him when I have a guy in Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigba who crushed it last year. Granted with Ryan
Speaker 1: Grubb who they got rid of because he passed too much,
Speaker 1: you know, they want to run more this year. I
Speaker 1: still think Smith and Jigba is going to be a
Speaker 1: huge focus of that offense. So I would still go
Speaker 1: JSN over Xavier Worthy there if that's the choice for me. Terp,
Speaker 1: you want to make it a clean sweep? Is that
Speaker 1: how you would do it as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Slightly, though I don't think it's it's easily like
Speaker 2: an easy pick. I think I would take both of
Speaker 2: them and be happy about it. Slightly towards JSN just
Speaker 2: because he's pretty much the only guy there. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they are going to run the ball up, but they're
Speaker 2: not a good team. I don't trust Sam Darnold, so
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I feel like the
Speaker 2: coaching staff smart enough to figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get JSM the ball all over the field. Hopefully that's
Speaker 2: out of the slot. I've heard some rumors of him
Speaker 2: moving outside a little bit, and people think that's that
Speaker 2: could work out for him. But the guy in the slot,
Speaker 2: that's where he's the best at. I know Cooper cups.
Speaker 2: There is kind of you know, money everything up but
Speaker 2: it's JSM. But it's not anything convincingly. I'm a Worthy fan.
Speaker 2: I think that Andy Reid's smart enough to realize that
Speaker 2: he is an extremely talented player and he's going to
Speaker 2: get him the ball as much as possible, especially if
Speaker 2: Rice misses four games, you know, even if it's two games,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I feel like Worthy last year was
Speaker 2: just a rookie. He didn't really know everything. He's more of,
Speaker 2: like you said, like a field stretcher type of thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be the same player
Speaker 2: this year. I feel like he's going to take the
Speaker 2: next step as a wide receiver and really, really really
Speaker 2: could take off, but it's still jsm by a little
Speaker 2: bit for me, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh. And Sean Green posted on YouTube tonight, of course,
Speaker 1: Sean Green a guy who was in this competition last year.
Speaker 1: He says, I want to believe Kansas City actually takes
Speaker 1: the top off this season. Didn't? Wasn't it? Was it
Speaker 1: Worthy or Rice or somebody said, maybe there is actually Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Brown said that Andy Reid told him get your hamstrings
Speaker 1: ready because they want to throw the ball down the
Speaker 1: field this year, and they're going to have two guys
Speaker 1: who are healthy right now to be able to do
Speaker 1: that as well. And the healthy quarterback and a healthy quarterback. Now,
Speaker 1: how how he's kept up right along that line? I know,
Speaker 1: were you talking about this with me? With Josh Simmons,
Speaker 1: the left tackle that they drafted that's going to help.
Speaker 1: They did trade Toney to the Bears, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: I forget the running game, that's extremely questionable. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of guys nobody really knows who's going
Speaker 2: to be the guy that Jecko's being drafted as the guy.
Speaker 2: Hed Smith is the sexy name. You got Mitchell there,
Speaker 2: you got Kareem Hunt there. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of questions the running back position. But my thing is
Speaker 2: always the fear with the Chiefs is if they open
Speaker 2: it up, all these guys are just gonna be smash
Speaker 2: ridiculous values.
Speaker 4: As a good question, how'd k C get better?
Speaker 2: They got healthy, They got healthy, and also they always
Speaker 2: have the plan to figure it out. It always works
Speaker 2: out for them doing what they do. They don't have
Speaker 2: to open it up. We all want them to open
Speaker 2: it up. Why would they change what they're doing. They're always,
Speaker 2: you know, almost a super Bowl team every year, so
Speaker 2: why would they start opening up and throwing the ball
Speaker 2: around the field when they don't have to.
Speaker 4: Somebody said that about Philadelphia's running game.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom Brady for years in New England would
Speaker 1: just live on this intermediate stuff and he never really
Speaker 1: had to throw down field. So it can be done.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not comparing Tom Brady to Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes here, but plenty of other people are, so I'll
Speaker 1: just leave it at that. Guys, Rubio and I can't
Speaker 1: remember who the other. I think when Sean Green said that, Terp,
Speaker 1: you end up liking these receiver heavy squads, do you
Speaker 1: feel like you have a blind spot with that, where
Speaker 1: like anybody who's drafting early receivers, you tend to like
Speaker 1: those squads early.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I just really like the structure of
Speaker 2: certain teams when they have like these top notch receivers.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, there's some receivers that you know, I like
Speaker 2: and everybody else likes in these seventh day, ninth rounds.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that's a better place, a better
Speaker 2: pocket where you could pick up running backs. You know,
Speaker 2: guys like you know RJ. Harvey, who's falling. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of other guys they're going to come
Speaker 2: off a board here, like the Traveon Hendersons of the world,
Speaker 2: the Hubbards of the world. I love those picks. You know,
Speaker 2: they all make a ton of sense, you know, based
Speaker 2: off structures. But you know, when it comes to the structures,
Speaker 2: I love. You know, receivers are especially early ones because
Speaker 2: all those guys that he picked are all clear cut
Speaker 2: number ones on their team. You know, Trading Bride's there.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, I get all that,
Speaker 2: But Marvin Harrison should get a ton more. Look, I mean,
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is the question.
Speaker 4: Can you have just been in love with that Marvin Harrison,
Speaker 4: and I think you should be taking it way too
Speaker 4: far out there. You've got to cat you.
Speaker 2: I won't quit it.
Speaker 4: I will Who asked the question about Turp and the
Speaker 4: receivers Sean Green, and Green should know because you know
Speaker 4: he's a confident of everyone here.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Really, the reason that you like the receiver teams, Turp
Speaker 4: is that you were made for Kentucky rules. You just
Speaker 4: refuse to embrace your destiny. And that's the problem with
Speaker 4: you that you've got to work out on your own
Speaker 4: sometime this decade. But that's why you like all the
Speaker 4: yellow on the board.
Speaker 2: You're a little I can't respond. I can't respond to that.
Speaker 4: You have been exposed discovered.
Speaker 2: And I usually have always had something to say back.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to.
Speaker 1: Uh tetero. At McMillan, Sean wants to know what what
Speaker 1: kind of numbers were predicting for him this year. McMillan
Speaker 1: was the five oh one pick for for the deep
Speaker 1: end guys who are coming back on the clock here shortly.
Speaker 1: What do you project for him? Year one in the
Speaker 1: NFL with a guy in Bryce Young throwing to him,
Speaker 1: who really came into his own at the in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Bryce Young look good at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: I obviously trust the coach, you know, you know, he's
Speaker 2: a very very good pedigree. When it comes to number
Speaker 2: one receivers. They really like the tet. They really his
Speaker 2: last name is I always butcher his first name. I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna try that, So they always love tat McMillan.
Speaker 2: You know, they drafted him extremely high. They put a
Speaker 2: lot of draft capital into him, and realistically, there's nobody
Speaker 2: else there, so I could easily see it a double
Speaker 2: digit touchdown season for him, you know, a big target share.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's really nobody else there. Like you know,
Speaker 2: he was able to get Adam Feeling guys like that
Speaker 2: that are serviceable, but you know, tight end position. Nothing
Speaker 2: is he capable of being a number one receiver. You
Speaker 2: could say the jury is still out there, but I
Speaker 2: got to feel in they're and to give him every
Speaker 2: chance to be that guy. And where he's being drafted,
Speaker 2: he could be a league winner of Carolina and Bryce
Speaker 2: Young take that next step.
Speaker 1: Sean to answer that question, at least my answer, I'd
Speaker 1: say seventy five catches, nine hundred yards seven touchdowns. That's
Speaker 1: what i'd look for McMillan this year. Okay, guys, where
Speaker 1: did I want to go with? Oh? So Turt? I
Speaker 1: think you brought up a good point and we'll see
Speaker 1: what the deep end guys do here. But regarding the
Speaker 1: types of receivers that they took, Chase Wilson, Harrison, Ted McMillan,
Speaker 1: Teteroa McMillan, excuse me, all expected to be the number
Speaker 1: one receivers on their team. Now, if you look at
Speaker 1: the Hooks which has Ben and Randall hook the f FPC,
Speaker 1: Joe's at the ten spot, and you look at Matt
Speaker 1: Schaff at the eleven. They also went receiver heavy in
Speaker 1: their first in the first part of their draft. But
Speaker 1: look at who Hooks took. Collins, who's the number one guy?
Speaker 1: Adams probably the number two, Jamison Williams number two receiver,
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers number one receiver. But you still have Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews there as well, kind of gumming up the works.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm cheating when I say that, but I'll just
Speaker 1: bring that up. And then you look at Schaff number
Speaker 1: one in Nakua, Rashie Rice, is he the number one?
Speaker 1: Maybe not to start the season maybe becomes it. Mike
Speaker 1: Evans is the number one, DeVonta Smith is the number two.
Speaker 1: So I guess like for the those squads, I guess
Speaker 1: you could make the case that look I like the
Speaker 1: deep ense better because they have all these number one
Speaker 1: receivers Jerry Judy included who they just took right here
Speaker 1: at the six twelve where these other guys are littered
Speaker 1: with number two. Are not all number one options right
Speaker 1: hundred percent?
Speaker 2: I mean I like Team ten's receivers over Team eleven's
Speaker 2: receivers personally, Jameson Williams, I love this year. DeVonta Adams.
Speaker 2: I get he's the number two, but he can easily
Speaker 2: be the number one. There Nico Collins, you know that
Speaker 2: we don't really say much about him, and obviously getting
Speaker 2: the tight end position with Trey McBride helps team Team eleven.
Speaker 2: I don't hate the guys that DeVonta Smith is just
Speaker 2: I love the player, but you gotta believe in Eagles
Speaker 2: passing game for him to you know, really warrant where
Speaker 2: he's being drafted. And Mike Evans, one of these years
Speaker 2: he's got to go down, right, No, he doesn't, he doesn't, right,
Speaker 2: that's why you know, he's not a sexy pick. He's
Speaker 2: not a people like people are pounding the table for.
Speaker 2: But he always gets it done well.
Speaker 4: It sure is fun and sexy when he catches forty
Speaker 4: yard touchdowns.
Speaker 2: When you need it, and he loves that one yard
Speaker 2: touchdown just tweaks people like myself because you always have
Speaker 2: the shot. The one yard Baker Mayfield Mike Evans touchdown
Speaker 2: if you don't own him, is one of the most
Speaker 2: tilting things in fantasy football. I don't know if anybody
Speaker 2: agrees with that, but you think it's always going to
Speaker 2: be a running back. Usually receivers are never on the field.
Speaker 2: Then Mike Evans does that or four weeks.
Speaker 4: Times a week. There's a first for everything. I'll agree
Speaker 4: with you, guys. Number one team number one. Now, I
Speaker 4: think Crow Orson and Mike are just just showing off.
Speaker 4: There's a shot nothing that.
Speaker 2: Number one receiver and Mark Andrews number one receiver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you've got to put up some
Speaker 4: points of running back and do you guys believe I'd
Speaker 4: like to understand what Jonathan Taylor is gonna do this year.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see some numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm not a numbers guy. People always ask me for numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm not a numbers guy.
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta be termed, because that's how you need
Speaker 4: to decide who you're gonna draft. That hill now, the
Speaker 4: way they look and move and all that part of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you're if you're gonna take a
Speaker 4: running back over another running back, Like we were talking
Speaker 4: jsn and Worthy, it's a toss up. It's about style, and.
Speaker 2: Nathan Taylor is a wildcard because if Anthony Risus is
Speaker 2: a quarterback, I don't, I don't. I'll draft zero of
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. That's why it's hard to like.
Speaker 4: Well, I got a feeling that he will be the
Speaker 4: quarter That's what I'm saying. These guys could use a
Speaker 4: green sticker. I don't care who it is.
Speaker 2: They definitely could use a green sticker. But there's no
Speaker 2: way I'm taking Jared. I'm taking Isaiah Pachecho over Judy
Speaker 2: or Mark Andrews andret maybe maybe, but I'll feel like
Speaker 2: the upside trying to win with Judy and Andrews is higher.
Speaker 4: I think Team Too got a real gift when Checko
Speaker 4: became available, and I like him better than Aaron Jones
Speaker 4: now I am in the minority there, but I like
Speaker 4: him better.
Speaker 1: Guys join me in the middle of the draft board here,
Speaker 1: Rob Vieira's team at the sixth hole. He just added
Speaker 1: his second receiver in Jordan Addison. What's what does Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison having? And with the first receiver that Rob drafted,
Speaker 1: it's justin Jefferson, Jefferson and Addison. I believe that. And
Speaker 1: Rob he may not be watching this right now. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll go back and watch it later. I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. I think Rob is a Vikings fan. Don't
Speaker 1: quote me on that. But before we get into that,
Speaker 1: what do you make of we talked about all these
Speaker 1: other teams drafting receivers early. Vierra is just stacking up Kittle, Ngram,
Speaker 1: Chase Brown, and James Connor. He gets Jalen Hurts in
Speaker 1: there as well. What do you make Farrell of the
Speaker 1: of the approach of letting everybody else take receivers in
Speaker 1: the first six rounds while he stacks up not one
Speaker 1: but two tight ends and gets a couple of potentially
Speaker 1: monsters at running back there as far as their workload
Speaker 1: goes this year.
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about team six.
Speaker 1: Team six? Correct? I HM?
Speaker 4: The quarterback question eliminates with Jefferson, but it lives with Addison.
Speaker 4: And that's why I don't think I would have done that.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, he must know some receivers that
Speaker 4: he likes and they're still out there. And I like
Speaker 4: him too, and I would defer until we get into
Speaker 4: the double digit rounds to see who he puts on
Speaker 4: this team. But I'm a little I'm a little baffled
Speaker 4: by it.
Speaker 1: Turf, let me bring this up regarding Hurts and I'll
Speaker 1: let you weigh in on this. The pick for Rob
Speaker 1: Vieria tonight the FFPC Joe at the four h seven
Speaker 1: as the fourth quarterback off the board. Last year, Hurts
Speaker 1: ended up throwing for just twenty nine hundred yards, which
Speaker 1: is extremely low. Disgusting, Yeah, it was disgusting. He did, however,
Speaker 1: top six hundred yards rushing, and he got into the
Speaker 1: end zone fourteen times. That is his fourth consecutive year
Speaker 1: with double digit rushing touchdowns. Last year, as far as
Speaker 1: touchdowns through the air, he only threw eighteen of them.
Speaker 1: If we are to believe that the Eagles ground game
Speaker 1: is either going to keep up what they did last
Speaker 1: year or they're going to take a step back and
Speaker 1: let passing become more prevalent with Philly, with with Brown
Speaker 1: and Smith and Goddard. Isn't Jalen Hurts the one guy
Speaker 1: that wins no matter what the scenario is for the
Speaker 1: Eagles this year?
Speaker 4: Yes, but Turpy was the I think this is right, Balky,
Speaker 4: and you might have just back check me on this,
Speaker 4: but he was number nine in Fantasy points last year
Speaker 4: amongst FFPC quarterbacks, and I don't if he improves, he's
Speaker 4: he's not moving past a lot of these other guys
Speaker 4: because they've got a chance to improve as well. That's
Speaker 4: all I'm saying. Would you rather have than Hurts?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm only drafting Joe Burrow if I have
Speaker 2: Jamar Chaser tiggainst Okay.
Speaker 4: But but okay, So that's that's a question.
Speaker 2: If you're saying one one versus one, Yes, I'm probably
Speaker 2: taking Burrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would go Hurts. I would go Hurts over Burrow.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's like a
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it.
Speaker 4: I think is a bigger commentary on what the Misselis
Speaker 4: did in round two, because you know, Turp just said it.
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson and then there's Tyreek Hill and then there's T. Higgins,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, those guys better than J.
Speaker 1: A J.
Speaker 4: Brown.
Speaker 1: A J.
Speaker 4: Brown is a fantastic football players. Twenty nine hundred yards
Speaker 4: in that passing attack, a ten percent bump, a twenty
Speaker 4: percent bump, we get the thirty five hundred yards. It's
Speaker 4: still very ordinary.
Speaker 1: Farrell, I have Jalen Hurts his quarterback six in the FFPC.
Speaker 4: I stand corrected.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the thing is with Burrow and how you
Speaker 1: treat him. At the point I would be looking at
Speaker 1: drafting him, I'm going to know whether I have Chase.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know whether I have Higgins, and that will
Speaker 1: affect how I draft him. Now, I can't speak for Stacy,
Speaker 1: but if she did not have T. Higgins there, I
Speaker 1: wonder if she lets Burrow go to somebody else. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. So
Speaker 1: so that's the thing is, we always try to get
Speaker 1: in the minds of these drafters, and and maybe one
Speaker 1: or two of themill join us.
Speaker 4: None of them are calling in, Balky, did you not
Speaker 4: share the number?
Speaker 1: I did? But here's the thing. And I said this
Speaker 1: last night, and and Turk and I talked about this
Speaker 1: at the top of the show. This is this is
Speaker 1: as talented AH pros and Joe's. I mean this, I
Speaker 1: said this last night tonight was going to be a
Speaker 1: blood bath. There's just there's no there's no weaknesses here
Speaker 1: there it's twelve sharks, and really it's more than that
Speaker 1: because we have multiple sharks running multiple teams here, and
Speaker 1: the pros in this in this.
Speaker 4: Event all lay down their money to play fantasy football
Speaker 4: and that that's that makes them Joe's, which makes them dangerous.
Speaker 2: It is crazy how all these drafts are all different
Speaker 2: and none of them are there all. You know, you
Speaker 2: just see like guys being drafted around two rounds different
Speaker 2: and all these drafts. You know, we talked about Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison earlier, like he hasn't fell this far in any
Speaker 2: draft I've seen the last two months, you know, so
Speaker 2: to get a value like this, a draft like this
Speaker 2: that we thought was going to be extremely hard, clearly
Speaker 2: all these other people don't like Marvin Harrison either, Like
Speaker 2: all these people who took you know that that Xavier Worthies,
Speaker 2: the DK Metcalf, the DJ Moore's, all these quarterbacks, all
Speaker 2: these running backs, Like it's it's interesting.
Speaker 4: I have a question for all you guys fire away
Speaker 4: for I like questions. There's two of you, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: Is he on the don't draft list? Or is he
Speaker 4: on the draft list? And if you draft him in
Speaker 4: front of Henry, you're you're thinking that you're gonna get
Speaker 4: McCaffrey for what he's supposed to be the full season
Speaker 4: of receptions, that you're going to basically turn back the clock.
Speaker 4: But as McCaffrey balky, you're drafting maximum teams down here,
Speaker 4: terpill will tear it up at the f f PC
Speaker 4: at Paris and Las Vegas. How many McCaffrey teams are
Speaker 4: you guys going to have?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I do. I'm glad you asked this,
Speaker 1: because this is talking about this is probably gonna help
Speaker 1: me make up my mind on this. I've drafted him
Speaker 1: a couple of times so far. I have drafted mostly
Speaker 1: from the front end of drafts, so I haven't really
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to take him in a whole lot
Speaker 1: of spots. I have said on these airwaves multiple times
Speaker 1: at the NFL, it's a young man's game. The older
Speaker 1: you get, the more difficult that it becomes to be successful.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times when I take a chance
Speaker 1: on these veterans and it doesn't pay off because they
Speaker 1: get hurt. And McCaffrey obviously coming off a big time
Speaker 1: loss season last year, I'm just kicking myself. Why did
Speaker 1: I do this? Why did I do this to myself
Speaker 1: to draft a guy who was already having injury problems
Speaker 1: when he was younger, and now he's a year older,
Speaker 1: and I take him again at the one two turn.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna attribute this to Ben Gretch. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he said this. I think it was him,
Speaker 1: and I think he was talking about McCaffrey and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when you're playing in these in these tournaments,
Speaker 1: and obviously you're just trying to beat eleven people here,
Speaker 1: but you do get the overall title. Bet else if
Speaker 1: you beat everybody. But for a lot of people watching,
Speaker 1: they are playing in the Big Gorilla, they're playing in
Speaker 1: the KFFFC main Event, they're playing in the FFPC main Event.
Speaker 1: They're playing in the FFPC Bestball Tournaments, tournaments where you
Speaker 1: have to beat out hundreds, if not thousands of people
Speaker 1: right to win. And I think Ben Gretch said this
Speaker 1: with the idea in mind of drafting McCaffrey in a
Speaker 1: big tournament. Sometimes you shouldn't be asking yourself, well, what
Speaker 1: happens if this guy gets hurt? You should be asking yourself, well,
Speaker 1: what happens if this guy doesn't get hurt? And I
Speaker 1: think that changes the conversation about McCaffrey, because if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt, you're tough. Where was Barkley going last year?
Speaker 1: Early second round?
Speaker 4: Yes, he was in the third round.
Speaker 1: So this is my point, Like, I'm not saying McCaffrey
Speaker 1: is going to be this year is Barkley, But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, for a guy who has shown us
Speaker 1: enough in fantasy football over the course of his career
Speaker 1: where he was the de facto one oh one multiple
Speaker 1: times over, and you can get him at the end
Speaker 1: of the first for the early second what happens if
Speaker 1: he stays healthy all year? And and that's and that's
Speaker 1: sort of the thing that I'm kind of talking through
Speaker 1: in my head right now. When when I'm on the
Speaker 1: clock and McCaffrey is available at the one eleven or
Speaker 1: the two O two or the two O.
Speaker 4: Three, Damn, I should ask more questions you can't top that, just.
Speaker 2: That everything Ben said, everything Bulky said. I draft as
Speaker 2: much Christian McCaffrey as I can pretty much for that
Speaker 2: exact reason. I don't really worry about the injury stuff.
Speaker 2: I know we talk about it every once in a while,
Speaker 2: but I know what Christian McCaffrey can do, and if
Speaker 2: he stays healthy, he will do that. There's really no way,
Speaker 2: there's there's really no way around that.
Speaker 4: Did Bill Hollywood just came in here with something very
Speaker 4: very good?
Speaker 2: You could always you could always handcuff him. You can
Speaker 2: always the Grendo's, the James, anybody, anybody there is fine
Speaker 2: to pick up. You saw what happened last years.
Speaker 4: If you want to look at an injury history, go
Speaker 4: look at Grindo and then you'll say, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I got to back him up. I got a handcuff Grinda.
Speaker 2: Everybody's taking Ashton Genty over Christian McCaffrey, and that's a
Speaker 2: popular like we will pocket right there. To me, it's
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey almost of the time. I don't and I
Speaker 2: don't hate ash Genty at all. But what we're talking
Speaker 2: about a Raiders offense that you know, yeah, Gino's there,
Speaker 2: chip Kelly's there. I get all that stuff, but you know,
Speaker 2: there's too many questions there. And obviously outside of injuries
Speaker 2: for Christian McCaffrey, if he stays healthy for seventeen games,
Speaker 2: let's say fifteen games, whatever, give me all the Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey I can get and and wheels up. If it
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. But you know,
Speaker 2: in these in these tournament settings where you're trying to
Speaker 2: win a million dollars, you're trying to win your league,
Speaker 2: there's not many players like Christian McCaffrey that are sitting
Speaker 2: at the end of the first round, in the second
Speaker 2: round in some of these drafts.
Speaker 4: Would you rather have Darrick Henry or McCaffrey McCaffrey. Is
Speaker 4: there is there a first round running back that you
Speaker 4: like Henry better than.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: For me, no, no, maybe, but that's probably about it.
Speaker 2: But that I don't I probably take gent in it.
Speaker 2: I would take a Chane over everybody. I mean, I
Speaker 2: would probably take devon Ah Chane over everybody but b
Speaker 2: Jon Robinson. And that might be the end of the end.
Speaker 1: Just regarding what I said earlier with Ben Gretch and
Speaker 1: this is gonna be hilarious if Ben never said this
Speaker 1: or wrote this. Because we're attributing, we're.
Speaker 2: Giving them all the credit for it, so it's out
Speaker 2: there now.
Speaker 1: But but Teag Orgman and Tege I think I'm getting
Speaker 1: your name right. I could be wrong on this. He says,
Speaker 1: Gretch's right should be playing very aggressively in the main
Speaker 1: event or Big Gorilla. And how would Teague know this
Speaker 1: because Tigue was the guy that dethroned the go bills
Speaker 1: guys after two consecutive years by twenty twenty three, f
Speaker 1: FPC Main Event. Awesome that we get f f PC
Speaker 1: Royalty hanging out more f FPC roads watching the broadcast,
Speaker 1: and I thanks for hopping aboard team Team nine. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about them right now. This is the Stealing Banana squad.
Speaker 1: They're on the clock right now. People were talking on
Speaker 1: the in the chat room not understanding the strategy, and
Speaker 1: obviously on the next time that these guys hook up
Speaker 1: on a Stealing Bananas podcast. I'm sure they'll talk about
Speaker 1: this here. But you look at what they've done at
Speaker 1: tight end Farrell Hockinson in the fifth and now back
Speaker 1: to back tight ends, they went Tyler Warren and Tucker
Speaker 1: Craft at the seven to eight they only have the
Speaker 1: two receivers Neighbors and Smith and Jig, but which, granted,
Speaker 1: could be target monsters. Nobody else is zigging. Everybody else
Speaker 1: is zagging, and they're zigging here tight Ends, Hockinson, Warren
Speaker 1: and Craft. I could see it working. And if you're
Speaker 1: trying to be different, you're trying to win first, there
Speaker 1: certainly is a path here. But even I'm kind of
Speaker 1: scratching my head in the tight End Premium League that
Speaker 1: you want to have three of them by the end
Speaker 1: of round eight. Farrell, I love tight Ends, but these
Speaker 1: are three of the same guys and the tight End
Speaker 1: Whisper debunked a little bit of the Tucker Craft last night,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've had a series of podcasts on
Speaker 1: Friday Night.
Speaker 4: That we can't get anyone that joins me in the
Speaker 4: I Hate Tucker Craft club and but I love Yeah.
Speaker 4: See there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: You want it, you want to, you want to, you
Speaker 2: wanna yeah, don't got for me?
Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me. Uh, I'm gonna look at all
Speaker 4: your teams to see how much Tucker Craft you've got.
Speaker 4: But you take those end for me right now.
Speaker 1: These guys need a receiver and hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you for I'm sorry. Did you say
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft is a top three tight end for you?
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, exposure, exposure. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I miss.
Speaker 4: He was saying. He was saying a lot of things,
Speaker 4: and that don't correct well.
Speaker 1: But that's listen. I'm probably in the minority on this,
Speaker 1: I know. I just feel that.
Speaker 2: Worries me because I know you're not a big Tucker
Speaker 2: Craft guy.
Speaker 1: It's not. I think he's a fantastic football player. Farrel
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this on Friday's got a
Speaker 1: smoking hot wife. Uh, he's doing He's living life the
Speaker 1: right way right now. But I just worry about even
Speaker 1: with the Packers, you know, coming back and regressing a
Speaker 1: little bit to being more of a passing team this year.
Speaker 1: You add Golden saving on Williams two in the draft.
Speaker 1: I don't think Nicole Hardin makes the team, but they
Speaker 1: still went out and got him as well. I just
Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't know. I mean to Tucker
Speaker 1: Craft and best ball, Okay, I get it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's going to have those spike games, But for anybody
Speaker 1: in like a managed league, we are drafting as as
Speaker 1: like a tight end twelve or tight end thirteen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm gon for him or Tyler
Speaker 1: Warren and draft and drafted.
Speaker 4: Ride behind him was Khalil Shakira and after Terps learned
Speaker 4: words last night, I've rode back Shakira to ninety four catches.
Speaker 1: All right, hold on, so few things from the chat
Speaker 1: room right now.
Speaker 4: Fare what's going on over there?
Speaker 1: Scott White, Balky always plays Switzerland, always the play. I
Speaker 1: think for the most part that's true. It's not always true. Uh,
Speaker 1: we got Joe King. I only draft guys with hot wives,
Speaker 1: but then Bill Hollywood, I try to draft people who
Speaker 1: aren't married. So listen, we're getting some next level analysis.
Speaker 2: From the YouTube analysis.
Speaker 1: This is this is good stuff. Joe King also said
Speaker 1: a three tight end start and managed just signing up
Speaker 1: for coin flips. I'm with him on that this is bestball,
Speaker 1: so these guys don't have to worry about it. But
Speaker 1: with Joe, I'm totally with you, this would be a
Speaker 1: nightmare trying to figure this out now. Tight End premium
Speaker 1: and double flex obviously if you plan on flexing these
Speaker 1: guys out every week. Okay, that's fine. I get that's tough,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's not an easy thing.
Speaker 2: Is more of a best ball guy than he is
Speaker 2: a redraft guy.
Speaker 1: Matt Schoff is on the clock right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to scroll up to it right now if I
Speaker 1: can find it, and I may not be able to
Speaker 1: find it on the on the YouTube chat right now,
Speaker 1: if I can get Yeah, sorry about that, guys, if
Speaker 1: I can get back up to it. Here, there was
Speaker 1: a comment on Shou's team. Yeah, Corey Walters had it here.
Speaker 1: I got it up. I'm not feeling Team eleven between
Speaker 1: guys being able to stay healthy and suspensions and being old.
Speaker 1: Maybe a stack can help him. And he's referring to
Speaker 1: Draft Sharks Matchoff, who, by the way, twentieth all time
Speaker 1: on the all time FFPC prosers of Joe's leader board,
Speaker 1: so he's gotten a lot of stuff right over the years.
Speaker 1: Speaking of stacks, he just added one here with Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown to go with Patrick Mahomes, who he got in
Speaker 1: the seventh round. Yeah, I mean McCaffrey and NICOUA certainly
Speaker 1: injury risks, but again you're going for first place here.
Speaker 1: Rice with the suspension, I think the suspension is I
Speaker 1: don't know, guys, I keep coming back to it in
Speaker 1: my head. It's gonna be like three games. And if
Speaker 1: I'm without Rice for three games, I can deal with it.
Speaker 1: Evans and Mixon not the youngest guys in the world.
Speaker 1: I like DeVonta Smith, Jake Ferguson. I think there is
Speaker 1: a positive report by one of the Beat writers taking
Speaker 1: in training camp today about Ferguson. You have Travis etn
Speaker 1: At a good value here too. There's question marks, but
Speaker 1: there's I mean, I could see this working out too,
Speaker 1: and Schoff obviously knows what he's doing. Turf, I'll let
Speaker 1: you wigin and Pharalleh, I want you to give your
Speaker 1: commentary on this squad too. But what do you think
Speaker 1: of Matt Schaw's team at team at Spot eleven tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with all the players, but the
Speaker 2: structure of the team is perfect. I mean, there's really
Speaker 2: nothing negative to say about the overall structure. I mean,
Speaker 2: Jenny McCaffrey, we talked about him, Hookah, who's kind of
Speaker 2: stale right now in drafts. Nobody really loves them. Everybody's
Speaker 2: afraid of Devonte Adams. Are they afraid you know, is
Speaker 2: the Rams going to pass the ball enough to warn't
Speaker 2: both guys where they're being drafted, you know, right suspension,
Speaker 2: it doesn't scare me away. I mean, if it's four games,
Speaker 2: I'm still fine. You know, if it's six, then then
Speaker 2: we're in trouble. But I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be that long. And you know, Joe Mixon is not
Speaker 2: a guy I'm pumping the table for, but you know,
Speaker 2: he's still a guy that always produces. And then Mike Evans,
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about Jake Ferguson's the guy that
Speaker 2: I've been targeting a lot at the tight m position.
Speaker 2: I just really love that Dallas passing game between Dickens,
Speaker 2: Dak and Jake Ferguson. Obviously lamb etns. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: an ETN stand so I went to draft them as
Speaker 2: much as possible. And then getting the stack with Brown
Speaker 2: to offset Rice being out. You know, it makes a
Speaker 2: ton of sense for this kind of context because you're
Speaker 2: not really losing anything when Brown is going to be
Speaker 2: in there. Obviously Rice is a better player, but I
Speaker 2: would browns no slouts. So say it's four games, you're
Speaker 2: getting four games and Mahomes and Brown, and then you're
Speaker 2: getting you know, the rest of Mahomes, Brown and your
Speaker 2: fourth round pick Rice, so, third round pick Rice. So
Speaker 2: I think it's a very very well structured team. He
Speaker 2: clearly knows what he's doing. I mean again, I might
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree on some of the players that
Speaker 2: he drafted, but it doesn't really matter the structure of
Speaker 2: it's perfect Pharaoh.
Speaker 1: What do you make of shout squad here? I think
Speaker 1: makes a good point about getting Hollywood Brown here to
Speaker 1: kind of offset a potential right suspension, and then it's
Speaker 1: a wheels up after that.
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
Speaker 1: And the rest of the squad there.
Speaker 4: When Casey Steingele was in front of the Senate SOB
Speaker 4: Committee on the Anti Trust zoom and they talk and
Speaker 4: he went on and on and on, and Mickey Mantle's
Speaker 4: response when they asked Mickey Mantle, he said, well, just
Speaker 4: what Casey said, and also just what Turp said. But
Speaker 4: I will say this, he's drafting old school names, and
Speaker 4: I love it. He's drafting an old school lineup. He
Speaker 4: must not be a dynasty player because he doesn't know
Speaker 4: the rookies. He doesn't engage with the rookies. He needs
Speaker 4: more tight in. Fifty nine catches and zero touchdowns won't
Speaker 4: get it done. Ferguson will do better for him, but
Speaker 4: he needs more tight in in this format, and I'll
Speaker 4: be curious to see where that's coming from. But these
Speaker 4: are some old school cats in here. I'm looking for
Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett to join this team. I'm looking for Flacco
Speaker 4: as a backup quarterback. This is an old school team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we could see Drew Bennett join the
Speaker 1: squad as well. Of course, you think of Keith Byers
Speaker 1: would be an excellent nineteenth twentieth round pick, right tur
Speaker 1: Keith Byers.
Speaker 4: Every time you start talking about these hot wives you
Speaker 4: know and well, but you're not conscious of it. You're
Speaker 4: actually going back to moneyball, and I would say, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: I will say, Balky, you are money and you don't
Speaker 4: even know it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I I kid about the hot wives thing.
Speaker 1: I think everybody. I shouldn't say everybody. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people just assume you know anybody from the
Speaker 1: upper Midwest, Like because Tucker Crafts is South Dakota guy,
Speaker 1: they just assume we're all married to swamp monsters up here.
Speaker 4: And Gary Morgan just says, Stacy's mom has got it
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Does he does have it going on?
Speaker 1: Stacy's mom has got to going on.
Speaker 2: At number five one were different, You're fine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so guys. The other conversation we had tonight,
Speaker 1: Nicky Banks points this out on YouTube, the conversation that's
Speaker 1: going on on the stream right now. Shocking to see
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin go before and Mecca Abuka after today's news.
Speaker 1: They should be swapped. So tonight in the draft we
Speaker 1: saw a Mecha Buka rise up about a four round
Speaker 1: where he normally goes. According to ADP that Go Bills
Speaker 1: Franchise with Barani, Costantino and Stutsman grab him at the
Speaker 1: nine oh eight. But this was after Chris Godwin went
Speaker 1: to the Miscellies as wide receiver forty four at the
Speaker 1: eight to eleven. And I believe the news on Godwin today,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm gonna look it up just so I'm
Speaker 1: not misquoting it, but I believe that the reporter said
Speaker 1: he had a second ankle surgery and they don't know
Speaker 1: if if he is going to participate in camp. Like
Speaker 1: this is another thing too with with with Harris I'm
Speaker 1: reading it right now. I'm trying to find it here, guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: well I find it. I'll let you weigh in on it, Pharah,
Speaker 1: were you surprised to see Godwin go that much earlier
Speaker 1: than Aguca given what we found out today from the Buccaneers.
Speaker 4: Early news from training camp is always a little bit puffery,
Speaker 4: But Godwin is Godwin is finding that I are that
Speaker 4: one game injured, that that medical team on the sidelines
Speaker 4: a little too often for me. I'm not saying I
Speaker 4: would have turned to the other Tampa receiver, but I
Speaker 4: think maybe I would go shopping somewhere else for Godwin.
Speaker 4: That really hurts my heart because it's one of one
Speaker 4: of the players I'm most admired in the league.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Godwin gets placed on the pup list. Today's
Speaker 1: ur underwent the second procedure on his ankle. Jenna Lane,
Speaker 1: who covers the Buccaneers, said that that was more of
Speaker 1: a clean up procedure and that he's doing well right now.
Speaker 1: But I think we have to look at this and understand,
Speaker 1: like there's a probability here, there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: outcomes here, and at this point, like I kind of
Speaker 1: went away from drafting Chris Godwin, who was my favorite
Speaker 1: player last year to draft, And I started off drafting
Speaker 1: season back in the winter, you know, January, February, March
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and I was drafting again as
Speaker 1: my number three receiver because I believe that he was
Speaker 1: going to be healthy at the start of the season.
Speaker 1: And dude, now I'm not so sure I've been I've
Speaker 1: been avoiding him and he might still be an avoid
Speaker 1: until I see him back on the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Chris Godwin, and I.
Speaker 2: Will have zero percent Chris Godwin and that won't change.
Speaker 2: I said that since the beginning. I don't think I
Speaker 2: could take him at all. I mean maybe tenth round,
Speaker 2: eleventh round, something, double digits. I might think about it,
Speaker 2: but I mean he had the thing about Chris Godwin
Speaker 2: is obviously we know about the injury stuff, but it's
Speaker 2: not he has scrubs behind him. Guys can easily take
Speaker 2: this job, you know, Jaylem McMillan, you know Mecca, you
Speaker 2: know guys like that, they're not they're not scrubs. And
Speaker 2: this offense is still gonna throw the ball a ton
Speaker 2: And obviously Mike Evans isn't coming off the field so
Speaker 2: you know, if they start you know, getting you know,
Speaker 2: getting more acclimated with that offense, and they start, you
Speaker 2: know really you know, as the season starts on, they
Speaker 2: start really really pressing and they do well. I think
Speaker 2: Chris Gowin could be an afterthought.
Speaker 4: They take advantage of their opportunity for us in San's It's.
Speaker 2: The same sance I have on Brandon Nyuk. I will
Speaker 2: have a zero percent Brandon Ayuk number one. Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 2: wasn't good last year before he got hurt. He was
Speaker 2: awful out there. You know, he got paid and then
Speaker 2: stunk and yeah, I know he had injuries and all
Speaker 2: this cool stuff and I get that. But then once
Speaker 2: he got hurt, people were like Kyle Shana Henry came out.
Speaker 2: There's no timetable today. Guys like that. They beat me.
Speaker 2: They beat me. Yeah, I know you could say, well,
Speaker 2: they're they're being drafted at a value. They could help
Speaker 2: you down the season. But to me in a best
Speaker 2: ball format, I'm totally out. In a redraft, maybe you know,
Speaker 2: with the with the potential that could hold a roster
Speaker 2: spot form to when they become valuable. But Chris Godwin
Speaker 2: and Brandon Ayuk, I will not own this year.
Speaker 4: He's gonna stay up that Niners thing. So would you
Speaker 4: have the same kind of bump with Jennings's I love
Speaker 4: one of.
Speaker 2: My favorite players.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure we've seen the best Jennings.
Speaker 4: It could possibly be no Balky. You talked about god
Speaker 4: Within missing camp and how that's a problem.
Speaker 1: I yeah, By the way, by the way, just to
Speaker 1: real quick, I think I misspoke on that. I think
Speaker 1: it was I Shanahan said he wasn't sure like when
Speaker 1: he be playing in camp. We have not heard that
Speaker 1: from from the Buccaneers and Godwin. Just so everybody's clear
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, you know camp is not what camp
Speaker 4: used to be.
Speaker 2: No, it's just you know, Williams is star. You saw
Speaker 2: that piece today that came out that the video of
Speaker 2: him running through guys with with no pads on Tavonte.
Speaker 2: Williams is gonna be the next He's gonna start rising
Speaker 2: in draft boards. Good luck.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of.
Speaker 4: A lot of what happens in camp, and we I've
Speaker 4: said this many times, the the superstars are actually the
Speaker 4: training staff, the medical staff, what they're doing with the
Speaker 4: players and what happens with the players in the film
Speaker 4: room and installing the systems and understanding the James. It's
Speaker 4: not so much on the field about camp anymore so
Speaker 4: just kind.
Speaker 2: Of preseason traps are there, and they're there every year.
Speaker 2: You're gonna see it as as training camp really starts
Speaker 2: opening and you start seeing these guys, you know, team
Speaker 2: scrimmages and stuff like that. You're gonna see these guys
Speaker 2: that are getting drafted into thirteenth, fourteenth round getting moved
Speaker 2: up because they broke away from guys without pads on ye. Look,
Speaker 2: it's it's you can't say it any better. And we
Speaker 2: see it every year, from Marquise Callaway to Terrace Marshall
Speaker 2: and we can go down the list of names that
Speaker 2: just rows up draft boards after like preseason, you know,
Speaker 2: pieces of how great they were gonna be and they
Speaker 2: were just complete flops.
Speaker 4: Well, my favorite preseason draft board adjustment was on Jamar Chase, who,
Speaker 4: for yeah, people thought that he can no longer catch
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 2: Couldn't catch the ball, remember last year, Carson Steele.
Speaker 4: On TV.
Speaker 2: It happens every year.
Speaker 1: It does work the yeah, I mean like Chase Chases example.
Speaker 1: It works the other way too, I mean like Phuka
Speaker 1: Nakua we we We. That was another guy that really
Speaker 1: gained steam positive reporting done on him in training camp
Speaker 1: in preseason. James Robinson a few years back as well as.
Speaker 2: It was James Robinson versus I forget the other guy?
Speaker 1: Divine oh uh, divine Ozigbo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like up until like up until like
Speaker 2: that we drafted in Vegas, like there was a question
Speaker 2: of who the guy was going to be. And you
Speaker 2: took James Robinson, you were printing money. If you took
Speaker 2: the other dude, you were drawn dead. And that's really
Speaker 2: what it comes down through, these like ambiguous backfields that
Speaker 2: are like totally you know, unknown at this point, and
Speaker 2: there's a ton out There's a ton out there right now.
Speaker 2: I mean you look at Jacksonville, you look at Dallas,
Speaker 2: you look at Chicago. In some eyes, you know New York,
Speaker 2: the Giants even like the Jets with are they going
Speaker 2: to do it? You know, Jami or Gibbs, Dave Montgomery
Speaker 2: type of situation with Breest Hall and Braylan Allen. There's
Speaker 2: just a ton of backfields out there that are very
Speaker 2: very very questionable. Washington like nobody knows, like they hate
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, right but he's still going to be the
Speaker 2: guy Austin Eckler, and then you got you know some
Speaker 2: you know rookie buzz. That's definitely stuff you got to
Speaker 2: start paying attention to because you always try to get
Speaker 2: as many of these guys as possible, because if you
Speaker 2: get the right one, you're you're well ahead of the game.
Speaker 4: Lagam Team four's quarterback Sex Farrell.
Speaker 1: I want to we are going to get to that.
Speaker 1: I promise you get two things I want to get
Speaker 1: to before we move on. Number one Mac Nova, a
Speaker 1: former ESPN researcher to the stars. He said, Reikwell Armstead
Speaker 1: and Devin Ozigbowl and James Robinson. It was like a
Speaker 1: three way, which made it even more confusing for us
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I'm going to present the timeline for
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin here without context, and maybe this is related.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not. Week seven of the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 1: Hertz his ankle on Thursday Night Football. He's out for
Speaker 1: the year. March tenth of twenty twenty five. He is
Speaker 1: rewarded with a brand spanking new contract three years, sixty
Speaker 1: six million, forty four million in guaranteed money. That was
Speaker 1: March tenth April twenty fourth, which is basically six and
Speaker 1: a half weeks later, the Buccaneers use a first round
Speaker 1: pick on an egg Mecha ag Buka. Some would say
Speaker 1: that these are conflicting signals, right, or I guess conflicting signals.
Speaker 1: Others would say, look what happened, like, look in the
Speaker 1: order of these things happening, and that will point you
Speaker 1: to a Mecca ag Buka. Haven't made up my mind
Speaker 1: on it, but I'm kind of with the majority of
Speaker 1: the YouTube chat tonight. I think I'm sort of looking
Speaker 1: at team eg Buka over Team Godwin at this point
Speaker 1: until I see something from Chris Godwin.
Speaker 2: Oh he Jalen McMillan is no slouch either, and he's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jalen mcmill is another guy that will have to
Speaker 1: be looking He really looked.
Speaker 2: Good last year. Everybody's like pretty much ignoring him and
Speaker 2: pretty much saying he's an afterthought. And I'm not sitting
Speaker 2: here saying that there. I'm right in some regard. But
Speaker 2: if something's out with Godwin, like Baker Mayfield has to
Speaker 2: rapport with McMillan, and you know, if if a Mecca
Speaker 2: always said what's his last name? Mecca Boca bok at
Speaker 2: Buka at buka close enough whatever. I'm terrible pronunciation, that's okay,
Speaker 2: you don't have to pronounce it. He has to draft
Speaker 2: it if he hits the wall. And I have a
Speaker 2: ton of him because he was one of my favorite
Speaker 2: receivers coming out. Why not don K Millan Jalen mill
Speaker 2: is going like the fifteen sixteen, seventeenth round of some
Speaker 2: of these drafts, like why not?
Speaker 1: JJ Zacher reason talks about this all the time, where
Speaker 1: you have these rookie receivers that often start out slow,
Speaker 1: but then the second half of the season they really
Speaker 1: come on. McMillan really came on at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. And and I'll say this too, Remember he
Speaker 1: was part of that trio of Washington receivers that got
Speaker 1: drafted in twenty twenty four. Obviously Odoonsay was the guy
Speaker 1: who was a top ten pick. But when it came
Speaker 1: to McMillan versus Jalen Polk, Jalen Polk's stats, I think
Speaker 1: we're inflated because McMillan got hurt, he wasn't on the field.
Speaker 1: McMillan was keeping Polk, you know, almost irrelevant on that
Speaker 1: offense while he was healthy, and then McMillan gets hurt
Speaker 1: and people penalize him for that, and then people penalize
Speaker 1: him for the start of the season last year, which
Speaker 1: was not great. Actually, I think he caught a touchdown
Speaker 1: in the first game, in the first two games or
Speaker 1: something like that, and then he basically disappeared to like
Speaker 1: week twelve or week thirteen or whatever it was, and
Speaker 1: then he really came on. Farrell. Uh, we want to
Speaker 1: get back to you here. You had a point to
Speaker 1: make about John Zeleski squad nine rounds. He goes without
Speaker 1: drafting a signal caller and now he can't stop picking up.
Speaker 4: And you know, based on the way we like these players,
Speaker 4: that's a good mix. That really is a good mix.
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm curious about Team two when we're gonna
Speaker 4: see some more tight ends, when we're going to see
Speaker 4: some more quarterbacks. I thought they would have pulled the
Speaker 4: trigger there. I think, I, oh, no, let their their
Speaker 4: favorite quarterback is gone. But yeah, I I you know,
Speaker 4: Mayfield and Williams and Lawrence, they've got a threat to
Speaker 4: hit big numbers every week, and they're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 4: be difficult to predict who it is but you know,
Speaker 4: at the end of the season, each one of them
Speaker 4: may have maybe five, they may have five for six
Speaker 4: games each one of them that has provided the scoring
Speaker 4: quarterback position. So I have no problems with this, uh term.
Speaker 1: Barney Newkirk, who is watching us on Facebook tonight, no
Speaker 1: doubt what a keystone light in his hand, wants to
Speaker 1: know what you're dropping tonight.
Speaker 2: No alcohol tonight, Just water, just water.
Speaker 4: Okay, there disappointment.
Speaker 1: Girl's got his bourbon going. I'm assuming right, I had.
Speaker 4: The most delicious old fashioned tonight.
Speaker 2: I love old fashions, love old fashions.
Speaker 4: Before making my way over here.
Speaker 2: Love love a good old fashion.
Speaker 1: You guys gotta you gotta try the Wisconsin Old Fashion.
Speaker 1: Sometimes beach curds. No, there's no You could probably get
Speaker 1: cheese curds in it. I had a beer a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago that had cheese curds in the beer.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you that taste not good.
Speaker 4: Is the Wisconsin Old Fashion made with rye? What what
Speaker 4: makes what?
Speaker 1: Okay? So the Wisconsin Old Fashion, the majority of everybody
Speaker 1: gets them a little bit differently, right. I think most
Speaker 1: people still get whiskey soury. You get whiskey suite you
Speaker 1: can get. We have a big German heritage here, so
Speaker 1: I always like paying homage to my German heritage by
Speaker 1: getting a Brandy suite, which I get made fun of.
Speaker 1: But but the mix is it's much less potent. They
Speaker 1: go down like candy. Whereas you go to Kentucky, you
Speaker 1: go anywhere else you go to like a really nice
Speaker 1: cocktail bar on the coast or Chicago or whatever, you
Speaker 1: get in an old fashion that will knock you on
Speaker 1: your rear end. The Wisconsin ol fashion is designed to,
Speaker 1: you know, have three or four of them before your
Speaker 1: fish fry on Friday, and then maybe one afterwards as well.
Speaker 1: You can't do that with like the traditional old.
Speaker 4: Fashion Irish whiskey. And eighty proof is your Friend book.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who else is my friend and and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring him on right now, really guest, Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a guest here and I want to bring
Speaker 1: him on. I didn't know if he was gonna hop
Speaker 1: a board, but he is hopping a board right now.
Speaker 1: He is drafting from the one spot tonight along with
Speaker 1: Adam Krautwurzt. He You can hear him on WGR five
Speaker 1: point fifty in Buffalo. Of course, the Odyssey app you
Speaker 1: can listen to as well Monday through Friday three to
Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern Time. You've also seen his mug on
Speaker 1: Ship Chasing, Purple Insider, and of course the Deep End
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football podcast. You follow him on the X at
Speaker 1: Chop Talk. Please welcome in one half of the Deep
Speaker 1: End Fantasy Guys. He is Mike Schop Mike, Welcome aboard
Speaker 1: tonight man.
Speaker 5: Somebody said something about what it's like to drink in Kentucky,
Speaker 5: so I had to jump on.
Speaker 1: I figured out it was like a calling card for
Speaker 1: you on that one. So you and Adam are drafting
Speaker 1: from the one spot tonight. We talked about your team fairly, extensively, terperally.
Speaker 1: Liked your start here, and you have filled in the
Speaker 1: cracks at all the other positions. After pounding receiver early,
Speaker 1: my friend, we have to you know, land.
Speaker 5: The plane so to speak, right, I mean, tight end
Speaker 5: went to the right quarterback. I think maybe we got
Speaker 5: away with it running back so far.
Speaker 4: I'm okay.
Speaker 5: When you get to past like round ten, all the
Speaker 5: tight ends feel like they're the same. So our thinking
Speaker 5: is to try to draft four or even five of
Speaker 5: them by the end and cross our fingers, but couldn't
Speaker 5: resist the receiver thirst early.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're done at any position right now, Mike,
Speaker 1: or do you think you're going to add at all
Speaker 1: four of them?
Speaker 5: No, I'd like I mean, I don't know what Adam
Speaker 5: is thinking. I left him to his popcorn for those
Speaker 5: time being, but I think we'll probably want at least
Speaker 5: one receiver, maybe to put with May. We still don't
Speaker 5: really have anybody for Prescott either, and I'd like one
Speaker 5: more quarterback too. I think there are some interesting options there,
Speaker 5: but it can't come at the expense of other positions
Speaker 5: where we are in more trouble.
Speaker 1: Mike. The conversation we had earlier about Jonathan Taylor, we
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out what he's going to do
Speaker 1: this year, and sort of the consensus that we came
Speaker 1: to it kind of depends upon who the quarterback is
Speaker 1: when you and Adam decided to make him your first
Speaker 1: pick of the third round, that you guys have made
Speaker 1: up in your mind, like who you think it's going
Speaker 1: to be, and that's why Taylor was the pick there?
Speaker 1: Or is it still kind of a nebulous situation for you?
Speaker 5: No, We didn't talk about that, and maybe we should have,
Speaker 5: but we were both going to shock the world and
Speaker 5: pick o'mary and Hampton at three oh one, and then
Speaker 5: Dagel went and did it. And then I'm texting him
Speaker 5: with him all day because he wants to know what
Speaker 5: we're doing at one and we went back and forth
Speaker 5: on that, and then I said we were going to
Speaker 5: pick Hampton. He said I was going to pick Kittle,
Speaker 5: but he he shouldn't have expected to get Kittle.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, a tough get.
Speaker 4: We were to get Hampton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's what's wild. So but so, Mike, I mean,
Speaker 1: you do a ton of drafts like this. Is this
Speaker 1: going to be the new normal for Hampton back into
Speaker 1: the second round?
Speaker 5: That's what people are saying. I don't know different And
Speaker 5: until we get some sort of real information on Najie
Speaker 5: Harris that isn't just his coach saying I'm praying for
Speaker 5: him and that we don't have him back by the
Speaker 5: end of training camp. And you know what was interesting
Speaker 5: about that story is, you know, like Schefter and Rappaport
Speaker 5: and Tom Pelsaro, they all come out with the big
Speaker 5: news all within seconds of each other. Because they're all
Speaker 5: given it. They're not really reporting, they're just handed the
Speaker 5: news and it's you know, choreographed.
Speaker 4: This one.
Speaker 5: They didn't have it for like two weeks. They didn't
Speaker 5: even know that Harris had been hurt. So it's been
Speaker 5: weird from the beginning. I think until we find out
Speaker 5: if we do that Najee Harris is actually okay, then
Speaker 5: that slows the steam down a little bit on Hampton.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't have to slow it down that much.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's still a first round pick. Harris isn't good,
Speaker 5: So I feel like Hampton is probably at his floor
Speaker 5: right now. I think that would probably guess.
Speaker 1: When I want to get back to your two receivers here,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, we talked about the ambiguous situation, the ambiguous
Speaker 1: quarterback room in Indianapolis. Well that Cleveland says, hold my beer,
Speaker 1: because they got four guys that we just don't know
Speaker 1: what the heck's going on there. Is Judy the type
Speaker 1: of guy that you could pick at the end of
Speaker 1: the sixth round and feel pretty good no matter who
Speaker 1: the quarterback is there, or is there a little trepidation
Speaker 1: of like, oh god, what if it's Dylan Gabriel or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 5: I mean even in his career already it has gone
Speaker 5: sideways a little bit. But last year he's so spiked
Speaker 5: in targets, and I don't know, like Flacco will feed receivers.
Speaker 5: He's their number one easily, and maybe he's a trade
Speaker 5: target if they're oh to seven or something like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a former first round pick. So I
Speaker 5: thought it was worth the gamble there. I mean we
Speaker 5: were already pretty good at receiver. I would have liked
Speaker 5: Olave I think the most in that sixth round, but
Speaker 5: I thought he was worth it, and there really is
Speaker 5: no I don't think I have the stomach for a
Speaker 5: stack Brown's.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 4: Well, it would be.
Speaker 5: Picket for me. I think probably, but I don't think
Speaker 5: bull up there.
Speaker 4: Options.
Speaker 1: Mike, you're about to be on the clock. Do you
Speaker 1: have to confer with Adam on this?
Speaker 2: No matter what I told him, I was going to
Speaker 2: talk to you.
Speaker 4: So he's going to take this.
Speaker 1: Can you let us? Can you let us behind the
Speaker 1: curtain like the guys that you had talked about. Do
Speaker 1: you do you think you have a handle on who
Speaker 1: he's taking here?
Speaker 5: I would guess he takes at least one more tight end.
Speaker 5: There are still a handful of them that who knows.
Speaker 5: And after that, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think unpredictable crowd. Worst is you could always
Speaker 4: been on after you spend how many hours preparing for
Speaker 4: this with him, He's still unpredicted. He's good, though, he's
Speaker 4: good though, great. You'll be collecting trophies in Kentucky. And
Speaker 4: you know what, Bulky, he's got a running buddy coming
Speaker 4: with him to help him carry him home. But it's
Speaker 4: somebody else in this poor person been.
Speaker 5: My first time my grandparents. My grandparents are Kentucky. I've
Speaker 5: spent very little time there in my life, so I'm
Speaker 5: eager to get there. And I've heard great things about
Speaker 5: the weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Mike,
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it, you absolutely love it. So the
Speaker 1: picks are in here, Marshawn Lloyd, who I actually I
Speaker 1: like both these picks quite a bit. Marshon Lyden in
Speaker 1: the fourteenth round, and Elijah Royle. Let's talk about Lloyd
Speaker 1: first here, Mike, this is a player that I think
Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong went wrong. His nickname in
Speaker 1: Green Bay was Murphy's Law last year, because it's just
Speaker 1: it was awful, you know, with with having appendicitis and
Speaker 1: the ankle injury. And I'm making that up a little
Speaker 1: bit when I say Murphy's law. Nobody called them that,
Speaker 1: but it just was bad. It was a bad Mulligan
Speaker 1: rookie year for Marshaon Lloyd. And now this year, I
Speaker 1: don't think that the Packers are gonna lean on Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs as much as they did last year. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna go with what should have been plan A
Speaker 1: last year was more of a tandem between Jacobs and Lloyd,
Speaker 1: with Jacobs maybe you know, making it like a sixty
Speaker 1: five thirty five, a sixty five and then five for
Speaker 1: Emanuel Wilson, Chris Brooks or whatever. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a lot of Marshall Lloyd this year. If Jacobs
Speaker 1: was were to go down, We're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of Lloyd. So I think that pick is really good.
Speaker 1: I'll get to the Arroyo thing in a second, but listen,
Speaker 1: I think Adam did you right here with Marshall Lloyd.
Speaker 5: I woke up one day in the middle of June
Speaker 5: and he was my most own player on underdog, like
Speaker 5: I don't know, that's just how that happened. But usually
Speaker 5: you want to bet on the so called mystery box
Speaker 5: of the rookies, but the Packers really didn't add one,
Speaker 5: or they did. It was it was leader, and I
Speaker 5: liked Lloyd a lot last year, so he's kind of free.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm in very special territory here being
Speaker 5: able to comment on my own draft without having actually
Speaker 5: picked the players.
Speaker 4: So that's exciting. The tiny in selection of Arroyo based
Speaker 4: on the news that we're having in regards to him
Speaker 4: out of c I would have expected an earlier dress
Speaker 4: spot in the fifteenth round, and I think you guys
Speaker 4: have got to steal there. This player can line up
Speaker 4: at a variety of wide receiver positions. I'll rock Bauers
Speaker 4: and he's He's great size and good movement skills and
Speaker 4: a great pass catcher, and people people love him more
Speaker 4: the more they see him. I can't wait for preseason
Speaker 4: to watch what this player does on the field. Congratulations
Speaker 4: on that choice.
Speaker 5: I hope that Seattle's offense is stable enough to pay
Speaker 5: that off for us like this, what's happening to our team, Farrell,
Speaker 5: I think is why you pick Bowers and at the beginning,
Speaker 5: because like this is really a scramble and it's a
Speaker 5: lot of guessing as to which one of these which
Speaker 5: ones of these guys are going to pay off. I
Speaker 5: would rather not get too like rookie tight end to
Speaker 5: have heavily invested in that, you know, one like not
Speaker 5: in a dynasty, but in a best ball or redrafting.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna you might have a quicker pipeline to
Speaker 5: add them than I do. I think I'm gonna want
Speaker 5: one more tonight.
Speaker 4: Least I think you might get him. And we talked
Speaker 4: about four tight ends being part of the build last night.
Speaker 4: And you know, you take your thirteenth round THEO Johnson,
Speaker 4: and I would say that this year or two for
Speaker 4: THEO Johnson is a continuation of his rookie year. Maybe
Speaker 4: bok thanks same thing.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, let me just say this real quick
Speaker 1: about that the Seattle thing. When when fant got cut
Speaker 1: by the Seattle Seahawks, there were two releases in the
Speaker 1: Pacific North Forest, two releases by Seattle. One was the
Speaker 1: release of Noah Fan the other was the release of
Speaker 1: the Beast in Elijah Arroyo that is going to run roughshot.
Speaker 1: Now for that Seattle offense.
Speaker 4: We'll see building it up.
Speaker 1: You see what I was just telling you about it,
Speaker 1: Like there is a beast there when you're talking now,
Speaker 1: ADP could kill that beast. I mean if he ascends,
Speaker 1: you know, to round elevel or whatever, then yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not great. But round fifteen, yeah for sure. And I
Speaker 1: think that's a great pick for you guys. You also
Speaker 1: I liked the Theo Johnson pick as well. This is
Speaker 1: sort of a burying the lead a little bit, Mike.
Speaker 1: But I have to go back to round four. How
Speaker 1: surprised were you that Marvin Harrison was staring you in
Speaker 1: the face at the ports well, the full round after
Speaker 1: he normally goes in the FFPC Best Ball Tournament.
Speaker 5: That was exciting. When we were tracking that round, we
Speaker 5: were hoping that the quarterbacks would go. I think we
Speaker 5: would have been open to Hertz and a DeVante Smith
Speaker 5: kind of thing there, but I think we got away
Speaker 5: with it. And I'm not a DJ More fan, so
Speaker 5: I was happy to see him go. Worthy was never
Speaker 5: coming down. I was happy to see McLaurin go, and
Speaker 5: then it was Harrison, and then it was between McMillan
Speaker 5: and Hunter for us, So, yeah, that was nice value.
Speaker 5: And by the way, on THEO Johnson, so if you
Speaker 5: don't mind, this morning on ADP Chasing, we went through
Speaker 5: some team pictures like the workout pictures and the won't
Speaker 5: the Giants like THEO Johnson is the proximity to the
Speaker 5: quarterback seems to like maybe be there a correlation there
Speaker 5: for value, and THEO Johnson was like right in there.
Speaker 5: So that probably subconsciously helped me want to pick him.
Speaker 1: It's wild because normally when we cover these drafts on
Speaker 1: this on this YouTube channel and then a lot of
Speaker 1: the KFFSC drafts I've been drafting, Steven Rgalos ends up
Speaker 1: getting THEO Johnson in every single draft, and I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen him in the chat at all tonight, and then
Speaker 1: as soon as we start talking about THEO Johnson, he
Speaker 1: just he's like, yeah, I just finished my first home
Speaker 1: league of the season. It took forever, and then you
Speaker 1: still made the THEO Johnson selection tonight, Steven, So congratulations
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 5: Well you guys, I mean, I'll see you in Kentucky.
Speaker 5: There are how many Buffalo Rochester players in this draft
Speaker 5: from Rochester? Adam and me go bills like we're all
Speaker 5: over this.
Speaker 4: Thing, so you here we go.
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy the the imprint that that that the
Speaker 1: state of New York has made on what I think
Speaker 1: is is the blood bath draft so far pros versus shows.
Speaker 1: There's just there's no weak spots here tonight. And I
Speaker 1: think that you guys have done an excellent job of
Speaker 1: cobbling together a team that not only is going to
Speaker 1: be competitive, but but could really run pure at the
Speaker 1: end of the season. And you might take this thing,
Speaker 1: and you might take the whole thing. Turp always likes
Speaker 1: to make his predictions on on who you know is
Speaker 1: uh is going to win the whole thing when we're
Speaker 1: covering these live, and he did say after five rounds
Speaker 1: that you guys, and I don't know how he felt
Speaker 1: about the rest of your draft, but he did say
Speaker 1: that through five rounds, you guys had the best draft
Speaker 1: of anybody in the first three programs.
Speaker 5: Wow, Well, it's so hard to it's so hard to win.
Speaker 5: I mean, these are confined leagues, right, I mean you're
Speaker 5: sort of playing against what's that I would watch. I've
Speaker 5: watched the show the last two nights and tried to
Speaker 5: use that as useful information but you're still, you know,
Speaker 5: only playing against these eleven people, and they're all beasts.
Speaker 5: So Diggle and Gretch by the way, I want to
Speaker 5: be Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Everyone is, especially in the fall, everyone is well. You know,
Speaker 4: Turp was right, if you recall Bulky back during COVID,
Speaker 4: Turp was right. He was right so often on picking winners.
Speaker 4: Not much since then he had a mask on. Sometimes
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was him, but all in all
Speaker 4: he was right. A few times he was. It was
Speaker 4: just five years ago. Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get back to Adam in a
Speaker 1: second here. The last thing I want to ask you
Speaker 1: is just for anybody who wants to hear more from you,
Speaker 1: wants to consume Mike more Mike Show contents obviously w
Speaker 1: g R five point fifty. But what from the fantasy
Speaker 1: football standpoint, what are you guys doing?
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Speaker 5: can get with you guys. You know I love being
Speaker 5: part of any of this. It feels like a you know,
Speaker 5: a weird fantasy, so to speak, come true. I'm on
Speaker 5: WGR in Buffalo three to seven every afternoon, have been
Speaker 5: since two thousand and two. And then Bill's post game
Speaker 5: when they're not playing at night. Because I'm too old, you.
Speaker 4: Go upstairs fix some popcorn just so I can melt
Speaker 4: the butter.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike, I guess like me, you've you've been
Speaker 1: doing it the better part of two decades, but you
Speaker 1: just have the clout where you're like, yeah, guys, I'll
Speaker 1: do the Bills post game show. But if they're playing
Speaker 1: at night, find somebody else.
Speaker 5: Night games.
Speaker 4: I'm out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, night games, I'm out.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 4: I've earned that.
Speaker 5: It's the one thing I've earned in my career.
Speaker 1: At chop Talk on X is where to follow. I
Speaker 1: might get back after it. Enjoy the rest of the draft.
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger, and we'll see in Louisville.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Can't wait. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Mike Show at Choke Talk on X joining the program tonight.
Speaker 1: Good stuff from him. He's drafting from the one spot
Speaker 1: except for rounds fourteen and fifteen when Adam Karutwroz drafted
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd and Elijah Royal for him as well. So
Speaker 1: that's good that we know when when we could check
Speaker 1: out Mike's viewpoints on fantasy football. Yeah, Turp has has
Speaker 1: some youngins at home, so I'm sure he had to
Speaker 1: take care of that. It happens to the best of us.
Speaker 1: It's happened to me before too. We're coming up on
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Speaker 1: let's look at some of the picks here. Jalen mcmill
Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit earlier. Interesting that he
Speaker 1: falls tonight to wide receiver sixty seven. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: a case of the Godwin news hasn't sunk in to
Speaker 1: everybody yet. I'd have to go back and look at
Speaker 1: the drafts I commissioned earlier tonight for the FFPC Big
Speaker 1: Gorilla to see where these guys are going. But Godwin
Speaker 1: in the eighth, ag Buka in the ninth, and then
Speaker 1: McMillan not until the sixteenth round. That's something that we'll
Speaker 1: be watching as well. What do you make of these
Speaker 1: two running backs that went before McMillan in the sixteenth round,
Speaker 1: Jarquez Hunter to stealing Bananas. I know Sean Siegel is
Speaker 1: a big fan of him, and then Taj Brooks to
Speaker 1: the gold Bills guys. Brooks the ostensible backup to Chase
Speaker 1: Brown in Cincinnati with Zach Moss getting placed on preseason
Speaker 1: pup today, Hunter and Brooks Ferrell. Your thoughts on those guys.
Speaker 4: I like Brokes better, although because of the situation. Hunter
Speaker 4: is a player that I really want to get a
Speaker 4: feel for during the preseason. He's on my want to
Speaker 4: watch list, and you know, I think it's very important.
Speaker 4: It's one of the lessons I learned in fantasy football
Speaker 4: from our old pal Chads Roder. Chaz Roders told me,
Speaker 4: despite all the baseball work he does, he watches every
Speaker 4: minute of preseason football, and I think that's important because
Speaker 4: I'm a big scout with my eyes guys and Cola
Speaker 4: A player moves, So that's what i want to make
Speaker 4: my decision on Hunter. But I'm all in them Brooks.
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, Brooks is a really interesting guy at sixteen.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, He's not going to be the
Speaker 1: guy if Brown goes down, but he's going to be
Speaker 1: an integral part. And you know that there's potential shootouts
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. I'm not sure that they've fixed their defense yet.
Speaker 1: It's wild because you know, two of the cogs that
Speaker 1: I thought would help that Bengals defense be better this
Speaker 1: year is Trey Hendrickson, and we don't know exactly when,
Speaker 1: when or if he's going to be signed. And then
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, who is working out in College Station Texas
Speaker 1: right now, still unsigned there as well. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen there.
Speaker 4: If you look at the names of the green stickers
Speaker 4: that have gone on the board since the thirteenth round.
Speaker 4: This is why I like to draft running backs early,
Speaker 4: because when you compare them to the wide receivers, you
Speaker 4: can make much much better cases for these wide receivers
Speaker 4: scoring for you. Then you can some of these running
Speaker 4: backs and that you know, we've got a wide receiver
Speaker 4: here in the fourteenth round. They called ninety plus balls
Speaker 4: last year. You've already stated your case for McMillan DeLand.
Speaker 4: We love the way he played towards the end of
Speaker 4: the year last year. There's all things about these receivers.
Speaker 4: Josh Palmer, although I don't agree, Chirp thinks that he
Speaker 4: could be a big contributor this year in that offense.
Speaker 4: So and people like Kyle Williams. What I'm saying is
Speaker 4: I would be much more comfortable putting these running backs
Speaker 4: on my draft board earlier and picking up these receivers later.
Speaker 1: I want to bring up two more receivers here that
Speaker 1: I think are compelling to talk about. Actually three more
Speaker 1: receivers that are compelling to talk about. That went and
Speaker 1: rounds fourteen and fifteen to Mario Douglas goes one pick
Speaker 1: before Kyle Williams. And if you remember when Kyle Williams
Speaker 1: got drafted by New England. This was at a time
Speaker 1: where we didn't know what Diggs status was going to be.
Speaker 1: You know, he was coming off the torn acl he
Speaker 1: was on a boat with some sort of substance and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was wild, right, and so Kyle Williams got pumped up.
Speaker 1: Darren ARMANI put this tweet out at Fantasy Mojo on
Speaker 1: x that tomorrow. Douglas is one of the highest risers
Speaker 1: over the last couple of months in the FFPC Big Gorilla.
Speaker 1: People are really starting to like him and how he
Speaker 1: fits into this offense. And quite frankly, I think that
Speaker 1: I'm down with the drafting Digs and I'm down with
Speaker 1: drafting Douglas, and I'm kind of pushing Kyle Williams to
Speaker 1: the side. Now, Williams could turn it on at the
Speaker 1: end of this coming year, but I think the majority
Speaker 1: of the season it's going to be Douglas and it's
Speaker 1: going to be Diggs as of right now. Reserved the
Speaker 1: right to change my mind based on more training camp
Speaker 1: that I see. Marvin Mims in round fifteen to John Zeleski,
Speaker 1: this is a player I don't think i'd ever draft
Speaker 1: in a manage league unless I really screwed up my receivers.
Speaker 1: But in a Best Ball league, knowing how they want
Speaker 1: to use this guy, knowing how explosive he is, knowing
Speaker 1: I never have to worry about starting him hashtag better
Speaker 1: in Best Ball. I love that pick for John Zeleski there,
Speaker 1: and I think he needs some help at receiver. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a team that I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't take a receiver until round four, so he's
Speaker 1: got more Dj Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jacoby Myers, Jayden Higgins
Speaker 1: and then that's it until round fifteen when he takes Mims.
Speaker 1: So I think Mims is really going to help him
Speaker 1: out there, sort of the INENI and Yang, because then
Speaker 1: the next pick he took one Dale Robinson, the guy
Speaker 1: that doesn't have very many spike weeks, but he'll give
Speaker 1: you eleven to twelve points seemingly every single ye, every
Speaker 1: single week. And then the final receiver I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about in the fifteenth round, Quentin Johnston going to
Speaker 1: Rob Vieira, who he takes Kyle Williams in the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: He takes Quentin Johnson in the fifteenth. Say what you
Speaker 1: will about Quinton Johnston. But Mike Williams is no longer
Speaker 1: a Charger. You got Lad McConkie, you got Trey Harris,
Speaker 1: who I guess is making plays, and Justin Herbert talked
Speaker 1: about him, but I think it was Jim Harbaugh. It
Speaker 1: was either Jim Harball. I think it was Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: that listed all the receivers that they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: count on with Mike Williams not being there anymore. And
Speaker 1: maybe this is nothing. Maybe it's something Trey harrisy listed
Speaker 1: like fifth. So there's that. So say what you about
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, but I think that that could pay off
Speaker 1: in round fifteen as well. He's had a nose for
Speaker 1: the end zone this past season that could continue this year.
Speaker 1: So that little pocket of receivers that we see Mems, Douglas, Johnston,
Speaker 1: I really like those three right there.
Speaker 4: Farrell, And remember all the talk about Jalen Kocher last
Speaker 4: year is Xavier Legette. The talent of these players hasn't
Speaker 4: gone anywhere, and they contributed in their first year in
Speaker 4: more difficult situations than we perhaps imagined when they first started.
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 4: Think that's tremendous value as we go, even into the
Speaker 4: seventeenth round.
Speaker 1: The tight end election has been interesting. Tonight we talked
Speaker 1: about the deep end with Andrews, Theo, Johnson, and Arroyo.
Speaker 1: We also see three tight ends for Zeleski in Ndjoku, Aughton,
Speaker 1: and Waller. You look at Dwayne McFarland, who we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about his team. We should really talk about his
Speaker 1: team coming up here pretty quick Coastland, Loveland, Mason Taylor,
Speaker 1: and Juwan Johnson. I think that'll be the jumping off
Speaker 1: point here. So he waits until round eight. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Dwayne McFarland, who is a huge fantasy star
Speaker 1: at Fantasy Life right now. He got his start on
Speaker 1: the High Stakes Fantasy Football Our podcast like a decade
Speaker 1: or so ago when we had him on to talk FFPC,
Speaker 1: and you can just tell this guy was a brilliant
Speaker 1: guy from the get go and he's been crushing with
Speaker 1: Fantasy Life Loveland, Taylor and Juan Johnson. Farrell waiting until
Speaker 1: round eight to draft this first one and then rating
Speaker 1: until waiting until round fourteen to draft the second one.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, his top two tight ends
Speaker 1: are rookies. Maybe this is a pick to win strategy
Speaker 1: one of these guys, and maybe both of them could
Speaker 1: pop off this year for Dwayne, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think so.
Speaker 1: Neither one.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I don't think that's a
Speaker 4: strategy that you can that you can utilize to work
Speaker 4: through these eleven competitors that you have. I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I would like to see what was the where was
Speaker 4: the value added by punting tied in to this point.
Speaker 1: Well, he pounded receivers early on with with Lamb mcmcconkie,
Speaker 1: Hunter and Olave.
Speaker 4: That's great, that's great advantage really and that helps.
Speaker 1: Now, now I'll say this too, Let's look at his
Speaker 1: running backs. He's got Bryce Hall and he's got Caleb
Speaker 1: Johnson as his top two CAYLEB Johnson. I'm more down
Speaker 1: on Johnson. I think I'd rather have Jalen Warren at
Speaker 1: cost rather than than Caleb Johnson. This year, he gets
Speaker 1: quin Shawn Judkins in the tenth. Now he does back
Speaker 1: that up with Dylan Sampson in the twelve. If you're
Speaker 1: taking quin Shawn Judkins in the tenth knowing how you know,
Speaker 1: undecided his situation is right now legally, do you think
Speaker 1: drafting Sampson in the twelfth is enough? Or do you
Speaker 1: think you need Ford. How would you handle that if
Speaker 1: you're taking Judkins Ferrell.
Speaker 4: We had a commentary earlier about a Cleveland Brown stack,
Speaker 4: and that's how I would handle that. Okay, always stay
Speaker 4: away from it. But I see Titians here, and I
Speaker 4: see titiands that he could have possibly gotten later, like
Speaker 4: likely who has a terrific upside in case anything happens
Speaker 4: with Andrews. Henry, who sixty eight catches last year, should
Speaker 4: see more end zone this year. The aforementioned THEO Joe.
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of guys that I like better
Speaker 4: than what he did at this position.
Speaker 1: Dana Motto's team, we have not talked about his squad
Speaker 1: as well tonight. Let's talk about it right now, because
Speaker 1: Sean Green says on YouTube he's not sure he's a
Speaker 1: fan of it. Steph Miller also said that her least
Speaker 1: favorite team in this draft to night is indeed Dana
Speaker 1: Motto's team. I can't show the whole board on here,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you right now the running backs
Speaker 1: are Derrick Henry, James Cook, Alvin Kamara, Javonte Williams, Jerome Ford,
Speaker 1: Zach Boss. I have no problems with that backfield that
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong. The receivers a mon Ross, damp Brown,
Speaker 1: George Pickens, Stefan Diggs, Cooper Cupp and Joshua Palmer a
Speaker 1: little bit weak there, tight ends Travis Kelcey, Dalton k
Speaker 1: and Kate Hunter Henry. I think that's fine. The quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: he's going volume here, Jared Goff's DJ Stroud, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I think the Russell Wilson pick might have
Speaker 1: been overkilled. I think he might have been fine with
Speaker 1: with those three quarterbacks. I think this team lives and
Speaker 1: dies with the receivers. Pharreh Saint. Brown is coming off
Speaker 1: that offseason knee surgery, which we think is at least
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fine. Pickens is now the
Speaker 1: number two option, maybe the number three option in Dallas
Speaker 1: as opposed to being, you know, the number one in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Diggs is still coming off that acl Cooper Cupp looked
Speaker 1: like dust towards the end of last season. So and
Speaker 1: Joshua Palmer late. I mean, I I don't know that
Speaker 1: sort of a wild card there. But when you talk
Speaker 1: about the receivers here on this team, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about any other position for Dana model as much as
Speaker 1: I am about these white ups.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but these are some of the better names of
Speaker 4: fantasy football over the last few years, and Dan probably
Speaker 4: thinks that in his twelfth position here that they are
Speaker 4: falling to him. These are some of the guys that
Speaker 4: he has previously drafted and lived with, and he feels
Speaker 4: successful with them. I'm probably higher on golf than you
Speaker 4: and terp are, especially in this format, because I love
Speaker 4: I think golf scores big when he's at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I can see why some of the drafters don't or
Speaker 4: some of the chat room players don't necessarily engage with
Speaker 4: this team because there's a lot a lot not a
Speaker 4: lot of newness in it. However, I think all of
Speaker 4: these players still got a lot of game left in the.
Speaker 1: Other squad I wanted to talk about here, I thought
Speaker 1: that we were done and I'm gonna get to the
Speaker 1: Go Bills guys.
Speaker 4: In a second.
Speaker 1: I thought we were done at tight end with Gretchen
Speaker 1: Stiegel here at the ninth spot, after Hockins and Warren
Speaker 1: and Craft went to him in the first eight rounds.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys. They've added Harold Fannon in
Speaker 1: the eighteenth round. Faralll a guy that I like adding
Speaker 1: in my KFFFC Best Balls late as a number three
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, maybe he's nothing. Maybe it's a red
Speaker 1: shirt ear for him be playing behind David and Joku,
Speaker 1: But man, I just I look at what those young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks might be doing, if it's Gabriel or if it's Sanders,
Speaker 1: and how they might lock on to a player like
Speaker 1: Fannon who was drafted with him, who might be working
Speaker 1: with them right now. As you know, with the second
Speaker 1: unit in training camp, there's a familiarity there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would have done it with Siegel and
Speaker 1: Gretch's team here, but Harold fannin Late is definitely somebody
Speaker 1: I can get on board with this in a best
Speaker 1: ball format.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Baggie. I love Harold fans athleticisms.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we can call Bowling Green that
Speaker 4: much of a smaller college. I don't know how we
Speaker 4: via the MAC, but scouts seem to love the players
Speaker 4: that come out of there, and yeah, he's he's got
Speaker 4: some classic tight end skills that could translate to the field.
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with this pick in this format, especially Helly
Speaker 4: just couldn't decide who else he wanted, so why not.
Speaker 1: We talked about Barani, Constantino and Constantino and Stutsman's Gold
Speaker 1: Bills franchise, the former back to back winners in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty twenty two of the FFPC main event.
Speaker 1: We talked about their draft early gent Brian Thomas, Josh
Speaker 1: allen Worthy, and they've added Treveion Henderson, David Montgomery, Jalen Wright,
Speaker 1: todgebrooks Keaton Mitchell to that backfield, Ridley Khalil, shakir At Guka. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we talked about Trey Harris. I think was a little
Speaker 1: bit early for my liking, but I represent I recognize that,
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I recognize the upside that Trey Harris is
Speaker 1: going to have there. They have not gone back to
Speaker 1: the receiver. Well since then, we'll see what they're going
Speaker 1: to do here in the nineteenth maybe they add somebody here,
Speaker 1: but they've been pounding tight ends the second half of
Speaker 1: the draft, barrel none in the first nine rounds and
Speaker 1: then they get your new smith Brenton Strange, Da Chavian
Speaker 1: Sanders and Dalton Schultz. If you are going to avoid
Speaker 1: tight ends in the top nine rounds, do you feel
Speaker 1: like you have the draft four of.
Speaker 4: Them here, well, then you overpay for it. And these
Speaker 4: guys are not going to put up Smith possibly, but
Speaker 4: these guys are generally not going to put up the
Speaker 4: kind of numbers. And Schultz Shil's career is declining in Houston.
Speaker 4: I admire the player a lot. He had some drop
Speaker 4: issues last year. No, this is why you don't avoid
Speaker 4: tidy end in the first half of the draft, because
Speaker 4: you've spent four spots on it to the expense of
Speaker 4: some of the other positions, and they're not They're not
Speaker 4: gonna get enough points out at least guys.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this right now? Am I seeing
Speaker 1: this right? I think I am. They have nineteen players
Speaker 1: on their roster, Farrell. Twelve of those nineteen are either
Speaker 1: rookies or second year players on this squad. So what
Speaker 1: did what did Sammy Hagar say? Youth is king and
Speaker 1: it certainly was here in for the Go Bills franchise
Speaker 1: ja Cory Krossky Merrit by the way, joining him, and
Speaker 1: Sean Green said, that's a great pick. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to think about Krossky Merrit. Have you made up
Speaker 1: your mind on what this guy is? I I've drafted
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler a few times, Brian Robinson a few times.
Speaker 1: I don't know how Crosskey Merritt fits in in year one,
Speaker 1: unless I mean, maybe he fits in if one of
Speaker 1: those guys goes down. I just I haven't been getting
Speaker 1: a whole lot of JCM so far.
Speaker 4: I've drafted him early. It's a wait and see approach.
Speaker 4: I like the skill set, and that's about all I
Speaker 4: can say about it. I'm still in the same place
Speaker 4: that I was pre draft and post draft with it.
Speaker 4: It's neither. It's neither plus or minus. It's not someone
Speaker 4: I'm targeting. He kind of falls in the He kind
Speaker 4: of falls in the place with me. With the young
Speaker 4: running back down that Houston what's his name, Marx, Yeah,
Speaker 4: May mar These are guys I like for no particular
Speaker 4: reason other than their makeup and the teams that like them.
Speaker 4: I admire the scouting staffs that draft them, and they're
Speaker 4: not the only scouting staffs that would have so all
Speaker 4: in all, I think that's uh. I see nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with this pick. You know, what's our old friend that's
Speaker 4: talked about the double digit drafts, the draft picks. There
Speaker 4: are no bad draft picks U after. I think they
Speaker 4: fall into that category.
Speaker 1: So we have not talked about, in my opinion, enough
Speaker 1: about the Hooks squad from round ten to night, and
Speaker 1: I do want to focus in on that for a
Speaker 1: minute or two. Ben and Randall hook were drafting from
Speaker 1: the ten hole and they kick things off with Trey
Speaker 1: McBride and then they got a lot of pass catchers
Speaker 1: after that, Farrell Collins, Adams, Jameson Williams, Flowers, Jaden Reid.
Speaker 1: What I want to focus on here is not this
Speaker 1: good group of receivers, which I think they have. I
Speaker 1: don't want to focus necessarily on McBride, and likely they're
Speaker 1: only two tight ends. They're on the clock with their
Speaker 1: final pick here. We'll see if they add a third
Speaker 1: tight end or not. Even if they don't, I think
Speaker 1: they're okay. I like the quarterbacks and Murray Love and Shook.
Speaker 1: What I want to focus in on here is something
Speaker 1: you said earlier in the broadcast where you like drafting
Speaker 1: running backs early because they dry up. Kyron Williams in
Speaker 1: the third, Tony Pollard in the seventh. That was it
Speaker 1: for them until round twelve, and then they pound Eckler,
Speaker 1: Ray Davis, Ric O'dowdell brayln Allen, Devin Neil. I know
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily like those guys. Can that strategy work
Speaker 1: drafting volume with running backs in the second half of
Speaker 1: the draft in the best ball format, even if you
Speaker 1: only have Kyen Williams and Tony Poler to count on.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're either too like that.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't like it. However, Davis and Eckler,
Speaker 4: and it's it's hard to figure what Eckler's year is
Speaker 4: going to look like.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think they made the best of it if that
Speaker 4: was their strategy, and so I applaud them for that.
Speaker 4: Not for me, it's just, uh, that's just one of
Speaker 4: the things that I just don't want to do. And
Speaker 4: I love these receivers. I probably one of the problems
Speaker 4: is personally, if I don't go more running backs in
Speaker 4: the top ten rounds, I'm going to find so many
Speaker 4: receivers that I love that I'm going to start the
Speaker 4: season with not enough running backs and just yeah, you
Speaker 4: know that will be my problem because I can't take
Speaker 4: a Devin Neil when some of these wide receivers are
Speaker 4: still available.
Speaker 1: Uh farrel Earlier, when we were talking about Stacey Perez's
Speaker 1: team from the from the five spot. Can't him ill?
Speaker 1: She said, listen, this is you got to focus in on. Mike.
Speaker 1: Schope was the only one who didn't. That was because
Speaker 1: he could turn his draft over to his co manager.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: Stacey took Higgins in the third, Joe Burrow in the fourth.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know the other thing that that
Speaker 1: opens yourself up to grabbing Burrow and already having Higgins
Speaker 1: is you can add another Bengals player later on. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe Jermaine Burton or Mike is SICKI well,
Speaker 1: she fooled me and she got Yoshavas in in the
Speaker 1: nineteenth round. So she does have this Bengals stack here
Speaker 1: of Higgins, Burrow and Yoshavas. Will that carrier in the
Speaker 1: first place in this league. That's not for me to say.
Speaker 1: I just I think that was interesting, uh, that that
Speaker 1: she capped off a really solid draft with Yoshavas and
Speaker 1: then and then Sean Tucker in the twentieth round here too.
Speaker 4: Well, she has red hair and she's stubborn, but that's
Speaker 4: that's that's part of it. I did you know look
Speaker 4: at her time. Those are some interesting cast right. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's a bit of a homer down there in Florida.
Speaker 4: So she know she's she's got quiet and tuck her
Speaker 4: and and you know she she's truly drafting in the
Speaker 4: second part of this draft. Her guys, if she had
Speaker 4: called in, I would have asked her if she would
Speaker 4: have taken Pittman over Downs, and then we would have
Speaker 4: thought about it. But all in all, I think she
Speaker 4: did a very, very solid, and they'll beyond solid, a
Speaker 4: very very competitive job of drafting tonight. I applaud her efforts.
Speaker 2: It's very good.
Speaker 1: This this draft definitely did not let me down. It
Speaker 1: lived up to the hype for sure. We have a
Speaker 1: lot of strong teams. We saw some things that I
Speaker 1: did not expect from some of the pros. We saw
Speaker 1: some things that quite frankly, I didn't expect from some
Speaker 1: of the Joe's and I think that was part of
Speaker 1: a result of having so much talent in one draft.
Speaker 1: And this is the perfect way to end week one
Speaker 1: of the pros versus Joe's competition. We'll be back next
Speaker 1: week and I'll tell you more about that in a second,
Speaker 1: But before I do, Ferrell, I want to give you
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Speaker 1: and we got plenty of online stuff going on at
Speaker 1: KFFSC dot com as well.
Speaker 4: We do and the response has been very, very strong
Speaker 4: from the listeners and a number of new players coming in.
Speaker 4: We've talked to a couple of the old guys this
Speaker 4: year that have actually chosen to retire. We're gonna miss
Speaker 4: them terribly. But the thing that keeps our group together
Speaker 4: is the continuity of the people that play in the league.
Speaker 4: Every year. It's a celebration of having them here. And
Speaker 4: you know, we just Michael joined based on the krowdworsh
Speaker 4: referral and that's what it's about. And we'd like to
Speaker 4: invite you know, Scott Fritz, who has joined us on
Speaker 4: the show, picked out two teams this week and he's
Speaker 4: coming up just for one day, but we have a
Speaker 4: three day activity there at Caesar Southern Indiana, which is
Speaker 4: our Louisville home for drafting, and we have the Sunday
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Speaker 4: and we've got spaces still available. We'll find a way
Speaker 4: to get you in live where you can be part
Speaker 4: of this. We've opened up the Big Paybag Bulky at
Speaker 4: four point thirty Eastern time on Sunday afternoon. We've opened
Speaker 4: that up for some virtual drafters. And the difference of
Speaker 4: drafting online while the other members are drafting live is
Speaker 4: that you will get to bid for your draft spot
Speaker 4: along with the live players. So if you want that
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, you can stand up and use your fab
Speaker 4: money to get in.
Speaker 1: One of the things we don't talk about enough in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: You could use your fab money to buy whatever draft
Speaker 1: slot you want. It's each each slot is auction off.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. You can join us live
Speaker 1: or online KFFS dot com. See in Northern Kentucky, See
Speaker 1: in Louisville. Hopefully you're there. Mike schop will be in
Speaker 1: Louisville this year, which I'm looking forward to seeing him
Speaker 1: as well. Farrell another great show tonight. We will continue
Speaker 1: to check out everything in all the leagues at KFFFC
Speaker 1: dot com. You and I will reconvene this Friday with
Speaker 1: Rob Thomasino, who drafted in the Sunday Night draft this
Speaker 1: year on the High Snakes Fantasy Footballer. I will talk
Speaker 1: to you then my friend see you. That is Ferrell Elliott,
Speaker 1: the definitive Commissioner of Fantasy Football ladies and gentlemen, and
Speaker 1: that will complete our broadcast tonight of pros Versus Joe's
Speaker 1: Number three. Wow, so much fun. I want to thank
Speaker 1: so many people, Mike Shop, Darren Armani, Dave Tripoli, Farrel Elliott,
Speaker 1: the FFPC, our producer and mutual friend Rob or audio engineer,
Speaker 1: my best friend Bryce, and of course all of you
Speaker 1: viewers and listeners checking this out. Now, here's what's going
Speaker 1: on the rest of the week. So Thursday, pros Versus
Speaker 1: Joe's is going to take a respite until Sunday. Tell
Speaker 1: you more about that in a second Insider Access presented
Speaker 1: by the FFPC on the Better Sports Network is going
Speaker 1: to air seven o'clock until nine o'clock this Thursday night.
Speaker 1: I'll be hosting along with Ryan Kramer from the Sports
Speaker 1: Gambling podcast. Ryan Kramer will be drafting in pros Versus
Speaker 1: Joes next week, so we'll get early preview what he's
Speaker 1: thinking there as well as how he's taking in all
Speaker 1: this news from training camp. So that is this Thursday
Speaker 1: and then Friday. As I said, Rob Tomasino, multiple time
Speaker 1: FFPC League champ, he joins us as our guest on
Speaker 1: the High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour at ten pm Eastern
Speaker 1: Time this Friday, myself and Ferrell Elliott. Then Saturday no show,
Speaker 1: but Sunday we're back at it with pros versus Joe's
Speaker 1: number four. This is the Iron Maiden Draft. It will
Speaker 1: be at eight o'clock Sunday night. The jos include Brian Lindo,
Speaker 1: Jeff Cuzmano, Albert and Kyle Leach, Petri and Larson. Brad
Speaker 1: Petrye and Darren Larson will be in this as well
Speaker 1: Dennis and Stephen Jones. Billy van Warmer, former guest of
Speaker 1: this show. He'll be drafting, as well as Vince staff Alino,
Speaker 1: who you just heard on the road of his High
Speaker 1: Stakes Lowdown a couple of weeks ago. So tough Joe
Speaker 1: crowd and they will be going up against the pros.
Speaker 1: Sigmund Bloom from Football Guys, Marisio Gutierrez from a Stylio Fantasy,
Speaker 1: Josh Hayes from Rotoballer, Dan Williamson and Bradley Stallder the
Speaker 1: Stack Hunters from Player Profiler will be drafted. Michael Leone
Speaker 1: will be drafting as well from Establish the Run, and
Speaker 1: then Justin Boone now of Yahoo is going to be drafting.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Justin Boone actually is going to
Speaker 1: be making an appearance on Insider Access next month as well,
Speaker 1: So very excited to have him make his debut. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll even get a pre interview with him on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Main event draft slot with the FFPC deadline is this
Speaker 1: coming Sunday. Make sure you have your teams all lined
Speaker 1: up so you get your draft slot early on August third.
Speaker 1: Multiple big Gorilla drafts filling up each and every day.
Speaker 1: Main event drafts are often running as well the Best
Speaker 1: Ball Tournament in the Super Flex Bestball Tournament. If you're
Speaker 1: still in Best Ball season, hey, that's cool. We got
Speaker 1: to fill up those tournaments as well, and they've been
Speaker 1: filling up, so take your chance. There one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty five dollars to enter, and you're
Speaker 1: looking at a three hundred thousand dollars and one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars grand prizes respectively. Their dynasty startups going on
Speaker 1: and then plenty of close twelve team leagues always going
Speaker 1: on at my FFPC dot com. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for watching, everybody. This channel will be live again on
Speaker 1: Thursday for ff PC insider access. Pros versus Joes resumed
Speaker 1: eight pm Sunday Night, Pharah, myself, Terp and so many more.
Speaker 1: Hope you can join us. Thanks for watching tonight. Really
Speaker 1: appreciate each and every one of you. Your week officially
Speaker 1: continues now.
Speaker 3: This has been another episode of the Hot Stakes Fantasy
Speaker 3: Football Hour, presented by my FFPC dot com.
Speaker 1: It was broadcast live and was watched around the world.
Speaker 3: Bulky and Farrell will be back next week with more analysis,
Speaker 3: more interviews, add more advice from guests much smarter than
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, and we'll talk with you again next week.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just pandering to you. The audience that
Speaker 1: we had the live audience tonight on YouTube was awesome.
Speaker 1: On Facebook, on Ax, it was fantastic. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for your support. Makes these pro verses Joe's drafts
Speaker 1: much more fun and we're gonna have more fun next week.
Speaker 1: Three down, three to go.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It is the kickoff to fantasy football season get in
Speaker 1: some drafts right now with the FFPC to celebrate, and
Speaker 1: I'll see in those draft rooms