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versus having been saved? The Bible has three tenses that

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we are saved in justifications, that's Romans eight twenty four.

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and we will be saved glorification First Corinthians three fifteen.

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My friend Dan put some of this together last night

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for our life group Bible study. My friend's pastor, Robbie

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Walden is with me and he is an expert and

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in fact a pastor in deliverance. He's also an expert

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in our bodies and the temple and is using his

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gifts as an athlete to help people come to Lord

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through something.

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Speaker 2: Called Christ Fit.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about deliverance, what it means to be deliveran

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that looks like how you do it, and body as

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Speaker 2: Talk about this with Robbie Walden.

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Here's the Emerald City Exile Todd Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is to day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times through which God has decided we shall live.

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Speaker 2: My friend Robbie waldens with me. We shake hands on set.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what he's supposed to do that, but

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thank you for coming in, brother, Appreciate.

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Speaker 2: You for having again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start with I guess let's start with

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the struggle, because there are people who they'll see guys

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like you. Okay, So Robbie's he's a combat vet, he's

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a ward winning athlete. He did a great had a

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great career in music and still publishing records. It's on

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the charts, and he's married and everything's perfect. And I

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guess last last February, things weren't perfect anymore.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell my folks what happened? Uh? Yeah, So,

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first off.

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Speaker 4: Again, thank you guys for having me back. And it's

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a it's a privilege and honor. As he was saying,

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we have a ministry called christ Fit Jim c DA.

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The first one was my old Army teammate who's also

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a pastor, Billy weatherall out of Older City, Louisiana. And

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then we have a second location in Oklahoma with the

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Davenport family, and and we're now the third and.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Idaho.

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Speaker 4: Yeah here, well technically in Quarterlane or Dalton Gardens really

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Dalton Government there. But so we had started that and

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we're also I'm a pastor at Heart of the City Church,

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licensed pastor with with our church, and and.

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Speaker 2: We started christ Fit. We're about at this.

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Speaker 4: Point five months in probably six yeah, about five months

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in six months in something like that. I guess it

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was actually like six months now, mind you. It's a

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free gym, right, It's a nonprofit, donation based gym where

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we share the gospel through exercise and events. Our goals

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to unite the church, equip the saints, and reach the loss.

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going as full boar. I get up at three in

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the morning, my day starts and I go to bed late.

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the Disciples for four and a half years. Never missed

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the meal, never missed a payment. We go into the

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new year February twenty ninth, or the third class in

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the day is starting seven thirty class and I look

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over and there's a text for my wife and she says,

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don't call. I'm on the phone with Josie. That's our

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oldest daughter, my oldest step daughter. And she says, don't call.

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Speaker 2: Cassidy died. Please come home.

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Speaker 4: And the people know, Yeah, she's and so she's my

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second oldest stepdaughter. Just a wonderful, wonderful girl. And so

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next like two weeks or so. The class, I mean,

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the members just.

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Speaker 2: Took care of everything. We just literally up and left it.

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and tell him. And Raadine and and and Raadine was

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just so wonderful to me and my wife too, and

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she just she is so wisdom wise. And I pulled

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into the drive normally, I back in the driveway and

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just holding each other and the worst day of my life.

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going on, what happened. The detectives has been trying all

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with her boyfriend. She drowned and she was twenty and

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my wife got to FaceTime her literally just before it happened,

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and my wife knew it was the last day she

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was ever going to talk to her.

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Speaker 4: She knew, and we both have known we were going

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to lose a child. I don't know how to say

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other than God's prepared us for it. We've both known

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it and talked about it. We've believed it, and not

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that we wanted to believe that that you're manifest that No, no,

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because it was from the Lord. And that week, in fact,

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three times. I kept and I was in the ocean

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and there was sharks and a grizzly bears and I

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didn't know what it was, but it was not good,

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and it was it was unique.

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every time. I'm like, babe, something bad's gonna happen. I

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don't know what's going on. I told her the dream

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and I kept having it. She dies in the in

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the she drowned, and not even a year ago. No, uh,

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out the twenty ninth, the morning of and then all

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my wife wanted to do was pray and praise, and

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so we put on worship music and we got on

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our knees and cried and.

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and it was wild because my wife wanted she had

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a that morning, she was scheduled for a crown on

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her to our root Canal, sorry, and she wanted to

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still do it now because we're going to be traveling

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back to our hometown of Haley, Idah to be with

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she goes. She asked me to.

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Speaker 4: Go out of the doctor's office and go call her

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dad and tell them what happened. He doesn't answer, So

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immediately I start crying out to the Lord.

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but I'm like, I'm reminding him of a promise, and

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God to give me this promise about six seven years

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before this, and he gave me a vision and it

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was my daughter Casty was Casty. She was behind the

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pulpit of our old church, which at this time was

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our current church, and she was preaching. And he told

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and he told me she was going to come to Christ,

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that she was going to be in ministry with us,

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because my wife and our own ministry, and at this

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point we weren't yet full time actually, but and that

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she was going to be in ministry, and that her

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real dad was going to come to Christ and many

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me this vision? What about this vision? And you told me,

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Lord's prophecies, his words, they come to pass. I'm living examples.

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Christ fit isn't one of those. If it wasn't for

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the prophecy and what God spoke to us to do,

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and you know, yeah, so it's real, right and and

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so I'm going off and at the same time, my

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wife is in the chair unrenounced to me at the moment,

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saying the same things. God, what about the promise and

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the vision? And he told us both the exact same thing.

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would be done or how I would do it. Long

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story short, two weeks later, her real father, Jason, gives

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his life to the Lord. It has been a snowball effect.

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now part of our testimony. And I'm preaching from a

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point of losing a daughter this whole last year, and

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I knew more people have been saved than I can

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count right now, including tons of her friends, her boyfriend

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also who had given a life to Lord. And this

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evangelist and I've led hundreds of people to Christ, just

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even on the streets, right so my wife has only

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led one person to Christ all on her own, without

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being there with me or me with her in the process.

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Speaker 2: And it was our daughter casting God, Praise God.

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Speaker 1: So it's a great testimony. And I think you told

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me it's sixty people been saved sixty something. Yeah, and

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through Christ for it. And I'll have to come for

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a workout there one day with Robbie Walden. And it's

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from that stance that this battles you've been through as

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a combat veteran and someone who's wounded that way and

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has served our country lots of spiritual wounds we talked

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about last time that you've been through. I want to

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transition into discussion about deliverance, and I'll tell you why,

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because a lot of my friends are asking about I've

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want to go through that process. I also want to

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talk about what you've seen in the faces of people

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who are being delivered and we're bringing back over to

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and I shared in common is a just a commitment

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to keeping the temple in shape. And both of us

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love to work out of nowhere near the athlete that

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Robby is. I mean, just take a look at us

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Speaker 2: But I have a protocol I use.

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Speaker 1: One of the parts of my protocol is to work

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of the show, Robbie, there I am being a radio host.

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Speaker 1: So we have the Bible goes through these three tenses

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of we've been saved through justification. We're being saved, that's

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the process of sanctification.

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Speaker 1: And so I accept Lord Jesus as my savior Messiah.

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decide to say, hey, you know what, I'd rather not have.

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Speaker 2: The free gift of salvation. I prefer to have.

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Speaker 1: The world, so I'm going to pur the soothe of

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things of the world, thanks very much. But no, I

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don't think people do that consciously. So I've begun thinking

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about the way the enemy works on us. My understanding is,

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if you look at this from a diligence perspective, we

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have all sorts of areas in our body and our soul.

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may have given our parenting to the Lord, but we

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may be holding back on personal relationships or well, I

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like to gamble, so I'm not going to give that

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to the Lord. And our body is like a series

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of It's like a hotel. And my understanding is that

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a demon can say, hey, you know what, you just

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gave me permission to enter. That room might be a

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sexual room, might be a business room, might be family room.

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Speaker 2: Do I get that right? So that's how I explained deliverance.

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Speaker 4: And again, this is one of those topics that is

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controversial in the church, and it shouldn't be. Deliverance is

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convers Why I think people don't want to believe it

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maybe taboo, and it's only in the Western church. Go

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to the Eastern cultures. They're doing it everywhere, and in fact,

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because they lack things like medical and so forth, they

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rely heavily in the spirit. That's why they go into witchcraft.

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And because they know witchcraft to be real and it

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works in many cases. They will not come to God

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unless He shows his power on display in the first place,

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what I have found, and I think in this church,

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in the Western Church, right or very tangible.

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Speaker 2: I think we can be very pharaceutical.

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Speaker 4: We chase knowledge, right, and it's all this substantial, surface

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based knowledge instead of in the spirit.

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Speaker 2: We are in the heavenlyes.

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Speaker 4: We are at a war, right, he tells us, we

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are in a war. I got shot in Iraq Apri seven,

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two thousand and four and Samara, right, and he used

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this as a metaphor with me one time. He said,

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even though I wouldn't have been shot, I came back

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with PTSD, night terrors, blown ear drums, you name it,

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and the mental stuff.

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Speaker 2: I get tempted suicide.

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Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, I had so many teammates that have

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am have committed suicide, right, because we're being tormented.

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Speaker 2: And now someone to say, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because you're you weren't a Christiano too, right, because many

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believe that a Christian cannot have demonic attachment of any sources.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, there's three types.

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Speaker 4: Of demonization, because it's really demonization. There's possession, oppression, and attachment.

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Possession is for a non believer, right and because I

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cannot be delivered in the first place unless I am

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a believer. But there is oppression and attachment. And we

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are in a war. And if we weren't, if we

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weren't such a heavy prize to the demonic, then they

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would just leave us alone at that point. No, because

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there's something they can kill still and destroy while they're here.

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They can get our eyes off the cross, the cross,

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the cross, the cross, right, yeah, actually, And but the

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thing is, I want everything Jesus Christ paid for and

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bought on that when he purchased me on the cross,

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which means I need to walk out everything the full

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Great Commission of Mark sixteen, for example, right, which part

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of that is deliverance. Salvation and freedom are two different things.

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If I come an adultery in my wife right now today,

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using common sense would say, well, absolutely right, the woman

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gets pregnant. Now my kids, my step children are upset

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with me. Let's say, Yvonne does forgive me and she

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lets it keep rolling with us, right, but she's got

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insecurities on forgiveness, situations, you name it, and all these

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things just stockpile and compound, pile, right and cause just

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enormous problems. Why because I gave the demonic spiritual authority

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over me. I broke God's commands. They work off of legalism. Wait, wait,

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the demons work off of lib absolutely. So there they see.

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Speaker 1: This covenant that we've been given the gift of forgiveness redemption.

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And they see this covenants and they're experts in this.

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So they're experts, smartlan me slighty, little snaky, little weasel lawyers,

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and so they're weaseling and they're looking into the covenant

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and saying, okay, wait, wait, Robbie, when you went and

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had that affair, you gave us permission now to not

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possess you because you've got the Holy spirit. The Holy

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Spirit convicts you. You go to Vaughan, you say, hey,

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this happened. She forgives you. But then the demags are like, yeah,

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but dude, you gave us permission to be here. Now

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we're here.

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Speaker 2: Because I sinned. I broke.

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Speaker 4: After every miracle, almost in the Word of Gone, Jesus

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performs a miracle, often says, now sin no more, because

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sin is one of the reasons we become oppressed attached.

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Even sicknesses we see in First Corinthians eleven with the communion,

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Paul clearly says, many of you are sick and even

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have fallen asleep, which in the Greek meant dead, right,

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because you have sinned against God.

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Speaker 2: We mean virtually dead at that point, because you're speaking,

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it was a physical death right.

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Speaker 4: So he was accounting sickness that we have and even

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death for some people because they had taken communion wrong,

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showing that there are repercussions, there are.

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Speaker 2: Curses, there are in our disobedience.

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Speaker 4: We love to talk about the obedience of God, right,

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and when we are obedient to God, we receive blessings,

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prosperity and long life. Now, of course, when you see

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the word prosperity, a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People like to go ah, right, But that.

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Speaker 4: Hebrew word for prosperity, if you go to one one

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through three, where it clearly talks about and summarizes the

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word of God's promises. Really, for obedience, prosperity means to

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stand in the river of overflow. So imagine this gigantic

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river just consuming you. It doesn't just mean or necessarily

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mean or focus on wealth. It just means in general.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And then, but on the left hand, we don't talk

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about this in the church. It's curses for disobedience.

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Speaker 2: Let's see that. Let's talk about Christmas in a second.

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Speaker 1: You said demonic attachment, attachment and oppression. Okay, So oppression,

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who are holding you down there, they're in your ear,

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They're tempting you to do wrong things. They're speaking into

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you that you don't matter, that God doesn't love you,

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that hey, you know what, it's only a small sin.

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Speaker 2: So they're doing that.

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Speaker 1: They're oppressing you. They're holding you down, They're trying to

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separate you from God.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: God's up here and they don't want you looking at him.

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So distract, depressed, distort. What is demonic attachment? So it's

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again I want to clarify. Even of the three, the

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antidote is the same for all of them.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, right, that's the main thing.

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Speaker 4: So it's demonization, So I hate breaking them up, but

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it's it's it's we'll just call it torment. It's the

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chatter going on in your head when you're talking to yourself,

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you're actually having a conversation with the demon. It's a

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one sided conversation. It's not it's not of you.

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Speaker 2: It's not. We're supposed to have a sound mind, But

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you don't.

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Speaker 1: Mean that when I'm in a workout, like I was

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doing a long shipper the other day, running and rope climbs,

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and I got halfway through, and I was talking to

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myself trying to talk myself out of completing it, like, well,

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halfway's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could be. It could be not right

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because I think the demons were not necessarily and I'm

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not going to say that he is, or because.

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Speaker 4: We are called to crucify the flesh, right, the flesh.

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The last thing the flesh wants is for you to

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complete that work. So even if it's just the flesh speaking,

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which that does happen, right, because the flesh works for safety,

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it's not the world. That's why we have to be

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born again, born into spirit. But there is a demonization.

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The demonization doesn't want you to complete anything that Christ calls.

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Speaker 2: Us to do.

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Speaker 4: First tifty four eight. For physical fitness has some value,

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but Godess has value. And all things only promise for

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the present life and the life to come. God says

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he will destroy those who destroy the temple. Right, the

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Western Church is so heavily oppressed. Why Why do did

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you know that Christians are committing suicide at higher rates

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than the civilian world. Pastors in America are are committing

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suicide at high rights. Why because they're supposed to be

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the freeze people on earth and setting the example of

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what it means to live for Christ. Is because they

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have not accept, expect, accepted the freedom God has in

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the living rents work. Because when we sin, we open

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up the door to the demonic. They have this ability

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to now oppress you attached to you and cause reak

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and havoc. Right, and and the ones that don't believe

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in it and are want it's because they've never experienced

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it from a clean and clear vision, and they've never

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been in a room with real deliverance happening. And it's

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the same things time and time again. The two largest

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problems in this oppression attachment vein that I deal with

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a ton is unforgiveness and fear.

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Speaker 1: Unforgiveness and fear are the two biggest problems most common

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that you've seen before.

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Speaker 2: Unforgiveness and fear.

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Speaker 4: Even right now, sometimes not in this moment, but right,

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unforgiveness and fear now trauma memories. Right, there's a spirit

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of grief. The word about it is very clear of that.

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So my wife and are in grief. We've had to

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set limits. We've had wise filled pastors come talk to

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us about this things, and we've taken it very serious

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because the enemy will disguise in the grief.

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Speaker 2: There's a spirit of grief.

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Speaker 1: So wait, I have a demon coming along and saying,

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and you think you're in grief, that there's a demon

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of grief you.

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Speaker 2: Can go on to keep you in grief to an

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unhealthy grief.

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Speaker 4: Right, And when you when you bite that, you've given

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them permission.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: And what what we are doing in deliverance is it's

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kind of an investigation, if you will, right, And we're

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finding what's going on in your life because we've all

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lied and we've all believed to lie right, And this

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is how I look at the Word of God. And

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John one one it says in the beginning of the word,

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the word was with God.

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Speaker 2: The word was God. John one fourteen says, and the

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word became flesh. That's Jesus.

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Speaker 4: So when I hold my Bible, I think I'm holding

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Jesus in my hand. The word became flesh bearing grace

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and truth. He is the way, the truth of life.

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No one gets the father of him. So if he

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is the standard of truth, and that means anything outside

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of him is not truth, which means this microphone.

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Speaker 2: If I asked you, is this black, you'd be like true.

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We're like no, it's fact. That's how I look at it, right,

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it's fact. It's not truth.

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Speaker 4: Because Jesus is truth, our conception or idea of what

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truth is has to change. And that's the problem with

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mixing at the world and not and not keeping in

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the biblical vein and context that God has. Because I

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think we can, we can. We can drag ourselves to

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areas without understanding deliverance is clearly commanded, clearly commanded.

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Speaker 1: I want to explore that more, and I want to

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explore some of your mentors because one of the questions

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I have Robbie is who delivers the deliverer? And I

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I want to make sure when I'm dealing with the

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pastor or I'm going to, like say, let's say I

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decided to go through a deliverance process you. I want

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to be able to look you in the I said, brother,

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you used to have people holding you to account or

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or or is it just you and God are But

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you just told me you have wise counsel coming to

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you right now, right okay, So wisdom, like fear of

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the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom. That's such a

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cool phrase because it's the beginning.

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Speaker 2: It's like that.

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Speaker 1: I constantly say. One of the big lies in the

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world is that information is power.

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Speaker 2: It is not. It is potential power, it's fuel. It's

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not power until you begin to use it.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Patrick Shad Tempo has a podcast called Christ Revealed

473
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and he is also a guy just been given the

474
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ministry of healing. So he developed a product called Wisdom

475
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and this is a biblically based herbal blend. And the

476
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way this came about was that doctor Jen Tempa was

477
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in the Holy Land. He was back there studying and

478
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just loving walking into steps of Christ, and he kept

479
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smelling all these spices and herbs, and he went.

480
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Speaker 2: To the book to the Bible. It's wow.

481
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Speaker 1: God talks about this stuff all the time, and yet

482
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here we are pumping out pharmaceutical after pharmaceutical and wait,

483
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this isn't the way.

484
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Speaker 2: So he was inspired to create this product.

485
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Speaker 1: And having them been inspired to do this, he went

486
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through the scientific rigor to make.

487
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Speaker 2: It a potent product.

488
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Speaker 1: It's cold brewed, small batches, sound wave infuse, light wave

489
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infuse to lock in the potency in the freshness. So

490
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the benefits from this are immunological. It helps harness your

491
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body's ability to take information and make it into a friend.

492
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It helps with mental clergy and relaxation. My daughter and

493
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I take this differently. I actually prefer taking it straight.

494
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I love the taste of it. My daughter takes it

495
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throughout the day and she prefers to take it with coffee.

496
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But she told me last night, Oh, I asked her,

497
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are you still taking wish? She goes, Oh, I take

498
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it all day, she goes. It helps me relax, I

499
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don't get as anxious, and my daughter deals with some anxiety.

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You can try this, go to try Wisdom now dot

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So go to try wisdomnow dot com slash todd. So, Robbie,

505
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who are And then I want to into the process

506
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of deliverance. We'll get back to christ fits because I

507
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know you've seen people deliver through that. You've been seen

508
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people come and give their life to the Lord to that.

509
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Do you have spiritual mentors and deliverance mentors? Can you

510
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name any of the Yeah?

511
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Speaker 4: So from a just an overall context, my senior pastor,

512
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I get discipled by I meet with him. I meet

513
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with several of the elders from my church. One of

514
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my very close friends. He is the head of our

515
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deliverance team in our church. He does it all over

516
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the world.

517
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Speaker 2: I actually just.

518
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Speaker 4: Came into this by accident because God thrust me into it. Now,

519
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I believe every Christian should know how to do it

520
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because we're commanded to it. Right, We're commanded all of

521
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us as the Great Commission. Now that doesn't mean that

522
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you're called to do it? Does that makes sense for like,

523
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so maybe there's no opportunity that arises and you just leave.

524
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The Lord leads you and you have understanding and you

525
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help deliver someone right in a moment.

526
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Speaker 1: And just so, it doesn't mean that it becomes an avocation,

527
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but it's something that's actually right versus maybe called a job.

528
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Speaker 4: And I use that lightly because I don't. I think

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even though I work for God, I think anyone who's

530
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a Christian can consider themselves working for God. Everything you

531
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have as his you're supposed to be glorifying his kingdom,

532
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building his kingdom through what He's called you to do,

533
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asked you to do, right, So so deliverance itself the

534
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very well, let me backtrack. When I first given my

535
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life the Lord. I was on like six months into

536
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the Lord, and our oldest daughter, who's not a wasn't

537
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a Christian at the time.

538
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Speaker 2: Now she is.

539
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Speaker 4: She's a very big on social media influencer, and it's

540
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all for Christ. She comes comes to our house crying

541
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and scream me from her dad's house. Uh, and she's

542
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being attacked by a demon. I go there, Oh yeah,

543
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the doors are slamming.

544
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Speaker 1: Bab Wait, so the doors are slamming in their own huh.

545
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Speaker 2: And and I'm like, what the heck.

546
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Speaker 4: I don't know what to do really, So we go

547
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back to our house, which is also her house, but

548
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she goes back forward right. So, and so I called

549
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my grandpa because both my grandpas are pastors. Now I

550
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don't know what I'm doing, and I just tell him

551
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and he's like, Robbie.

552
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Speaker 2: He tells me.

553
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Speaker 4: He's like, you better repent, make sure that there's anything.

554
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He's like, and you need to you need to go

555
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anoint some oil and you're going to anoint the house.

556
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And he's like, and you need to pray. Look God

557
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that he baptized you can fire in a holy spirit.

558
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I don't even know what that was I do. I

559
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go up in my room and I just start praying

560
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and I asked for it. I don't know how to

561
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explain what happened other than it was supernatural. It was

562
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like I was in this brightness just came upon me

563
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and I just start praying. And that's when I prayed

564
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in tongue for the first time. I didn't even know

565
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what it was, just happened to me. Boom, and then

566
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I just felt. For lack of better way of describing it, invincible.

567
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I just all I could think about was protecting my stepdaughter.

568
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And I went with the anointing oil, and I went

569
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to her father's house and her and I together anointed

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every window, and then I went into our father's room

571
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and then in his.

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Speaker 2: Closet where it was.

573
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Speaker 4: And as soon as I walked in, it's like I

574
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got sucked into this blackness the only way I can

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describe it, and there is the demon. I came face

576
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to face with the demon, the only time I've been

577
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face to face like this with an actual demon in

578
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this regard, and I am like flinking oen oil. I

579
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have no idea what I'm doing other than I'm just

580
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trying to, like try my best to do what my

581
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grandpa said, and he don't warm me. It was gonna

582
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get louder, and when it does, you go with it.

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But I just I just cast in and kept casting

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it out in the name of Jesus Christ and pleading

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the blood of Christ over my daughter and this household.

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And this went on for like thirty forty five minutes,

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I don't even know how long. And it was throwing stuff,

588
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it was screaming, it was hitting things like nothing like

589
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I've ever experienced in my life. And then just like clockwork,

590
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all of a sudden it was bright and then all

591
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I felt was the sun coming through the window of

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the bathroom on me. I could see the clothes hanging

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up in the closet and was like I was back,

594
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just in normalcy, and it never messed with her again.

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Then that night I was in bed, woke up from

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a dream late in the night, and God had given

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me this dream, and he told me the word Jezebel,

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and then he told me that that the demon was

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attacking her, trying to possess her. I can't remember all

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the details, and she's not a Christian, she wasn't a follower.

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And he told me how it came to be and

602
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where and all that stuff, but don't go in those details.

603
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But that was my we'll call almost introduction into Christianity.

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And then I'm sitting here reading and the whole time

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I'm pondering with God all the time. I'm like, Lord, clearly,

606
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demons are real, these are your how come the Church

607
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isn't doing this?

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Speaker 2: You're commanding this.

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Speaker 4: And he was planting seeds in me and directing me

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because why aren't we doing these things? And I start

611
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the men's group and ministry part of our church back

612
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and Hailey there with our old church. Then we move

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here and I start a men's group out of my

614
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house here, and we're in full time ministry. We're all

615
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worried about his soul's Sol's souls, and we end up

616
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doing a deliverance. I've never done a deliverance. I don't

617
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even know really fully what it is and understanding yet

618
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other than you hear about it.

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Speaker 2: And I just followed the Lord.

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Speaker 4: The Holy Spirit kept speaking to me and telling me

621
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what to do, and I did it and it worked,

622
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and we end up casting out demons and followed this

623
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just following his voice what he was telling me to

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do in the moment. Come to find out, eventually I

625
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meet Doug and tell him everything happened, and it comes

626
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to find out I'm doing it. Probably ninety five percent

627
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I did right there by just following the unction to

628
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the Lord the exact way he does it, so about

629
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ninety five percent with a little bit of looseness, and

630
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the man got set free. Tons of people experience it,

631
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like all of us, just like this is the first

632
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time we experienced this, and from there on out, then

633
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it's just been wildfire. So for the last about two

634
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and a half years now, I've been working in my

635
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wife and I both in deliverance ministry, and it's I mean,

636
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we have people context us from all over.

637
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Speaker 2: In fact, your your show, we had pastor.

638
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Speaker 4: I had a pastor from Oklahoma reach out to me

639
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after when I was last on wanting deliverance of course,

640
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and pastors do need this and because they're still the beings.

641
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And so for people who are hearing this thing, it's

642
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no Robbie didn't see a demon in a closet. That

643
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didn't happen. That's insane. Can I just remind you that

644
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you can't read the Bible and not understand that demons

645
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manifest in front of people. And you can't read the

646
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Bible and not know that Jesus Christ himself confronted people

647
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who were demonically possessed. And you can't read the Bible

648
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and not know that the demons knew that was the

649
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son of man and when when he would approach, it

650
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would shudder and the son of man would you had

651
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to do with us? So you have to and I

652
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:51,119
do too, have to remind myself this is biblical, that

653
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these demons do exist. And we live in a spiritual realm,

654
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and look, we are making war. You you don't have

655
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You can decide to not make war, but it at

656
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that point it's being made upon you. So you mentioned

657
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something about investigation, and this is like investigation. Let's talk

658
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about that in a second. There's there's all sorts of

659
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ways that I think Satan is oppressing the world. One

660
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of them is that that phrase that many hearts will

661
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grow cold, and right now hearts have grown cold for

662
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the unborn.

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Speaker 2: Now that's changing. But you think about.

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Speaker 1: The oppression it takes, the possession it takes to turn

665
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people into baby killers. And I bring this up because

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my friend John, he is Alan's dad at Alan Soaps,

667
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and John continues, by the way, to go back and

668
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get his cancer checked. He might have had a relapse,

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and I didn't. I didn't see the full text this morning,

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so it can continue to pray for him. That company

671
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would not exist if John and his wife had listened

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to the doctors of the world. The doctors of the

673
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world looked at the altar sand with Alan. They said,

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this guy, this little baby has structural problems. He's not

675
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gonna have a no good life. He's you know, just

676
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let us kill him. That's what they said, let us

677
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kill this baby. And John his wife said absolutely not.

678
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Speaker 2: This is our son.

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Speaker 1: So he is now thirteen fourteen, just turn fourteen. He

680
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can't speak very well. He's on the autism spectrum way

681
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up there. But he invents these soaps. They come from

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special moments in his life. When you open a package

683
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of Alan soaps, for instance, the cedarwood jasmine is my favorite. Also,

684
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my daughters, there's watermelon basil. You're going to take the

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scent of a special moment in a little boy's life,

686
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and that's what you apply to your body. There's scent

687
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free if you like. But Allen's is not just about

688
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the soap, which by the way, is made in America.

689
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It's made by a family with three generations of soap

690
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making expertise. It is not chemical laden, it's not made

691
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by slave labor and China. In other words, it's not

692
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about the soap that's a byproduct. It's about employing Alan

693
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and Ian and Amy and other young people that the

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world would have tossed out or have them stored in

695
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government boxes.

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Speaker 2: So decide to use a soap product.

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Speaker 1: That stands with your values. It's alansoaps dot com slash todd.

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Go there, get ten percent off all their product. It's

699
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alansaps dot com slash todd. You spoke about deliverance being

700
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a process of investigation, and what's that investigation like? Because

701
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I mean everything starts somewhere, But what's that like?

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Speaker 4: Uh, I want to let me close something on that.

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I think it's going to help people for a second. Right,

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And then we answer this question, right, someone that's an atheist, Right,

705
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they would say that's not my God, I'm not gonna

706
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,359
believe that. Well, we're going to tell them like something

707
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,519
along the lines of, Okay, Well, just because you don't

708
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,119
believe it doesn't make it any year less real, and

709
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:34,960
you're still going to face and we know that truth

710
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,480
in that same vein. When it comes to certain things

711
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880
scripturally that maybe we don't want to believe, it doesn't

712
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,640
make it any.

713
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Less true, right, deliverance, for.

714
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: Example, we can deny it, but it doesn't make it

715
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,039
any less true. And you would never ever get me

716
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,640
to give the credit of deliverance to anyone else but

717
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,559
God or to deny the fact of.

718
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: What they are, because I believe the church is the way.

719
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: It is right now because the Demonic, one of their

720
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:03,240
greatest friends or allies against the Western Church has been,

721
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:08,000
in my opinion, is naive, a lack of say, a

722
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:12,000
lack of understanding, and quite frankly, unbelief. Roman's fourteen twenty

723
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440
three says, anything without faith is a sin. It is

724
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
a it is a it is a sin to disbelieve

725
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,960
a word of the words and the Word of God,

726
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,440
including deliverance. And that's the reason why we are so

727
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,160
under oppression and attachment in the Christian Church, in the

728
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:28,519
Western world primarily.

729
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: So okay, so that's a big topic we should talk

730
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:36,880
about the Western Church and and selective not just enforcement,

731
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,799
but belief and faith into God's word. So what's this investigation?

732
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,119
Like someone comes to you, they hey, I need to

733
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,519
be delivered. You agree to go through this process, run

734
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,839
us through sort of a condensed version of what that's life.

735
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,759
Speaker 4: So let me let me clarify. I do believe every

736
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,279
Christian needs some form of deliverance.

737
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: You do.

738
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: I do, yes, In fact, my wife and I especially

739
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240
since we're in the battlefields of life in a different

740
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,000
way than probably.

741
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: Most, but we're all in the war. The word of

742
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,559
God is very clear.

743
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: We're in a spiritual war, and you can't enter a

744
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,200
war without being a casualty of it somewhere, Like if

745
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,800
I drive my car across the country and back, I'm

746
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,039
gonna have to change the oil.

747
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:11,679
Speaker 3: Right.

748
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:16,679
Speaker 4: For example, my wife and I we do self deliverance

749
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
on each other from time to time because we now

750
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,280
know what it feels like and what it is to

751
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,960
live free of oppression and attachment with it, just a

752
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:28,760
silent mind, right, and no fear, and all those kinds

753
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800
of things. Well, then when we start doing things like

754
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,760
making sinmful mistakes from time to time and coming into

755
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,119
agreement with things, we notice the change when all of

756
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,679
a sudden it goes from temptation maybe something out here speaking,

757
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,519
and it's gone to chatter in your head and things

758
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,360
start coming. We now know the difference so well and

759
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,840
so clear that I know when I have come into

760
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,920
agreement with something, knowing or unknowing.

761
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: Coming into agreement with something. Demonic witchcraft happens the church.

762
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,039
The church is form is doing witchcraft all over the place.

763
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,039
Manipulation is witchcraft. Rebellion is witchcraft. If you're rebelling your husband,

764
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,199
or you're senior pastors and so forth, that's a form

765
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:08,800
of witchcraft, right, that is in itself rebellion and manipulation,

766
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,480
which is rooted in witchcraft.

767
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: Right.

768
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:17,679
Speaker 4: So now again there's different severities all these things. So

769
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,199
if someone came up to me, it's like, hey, I

770
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:21,840
want to be deliverance. My wife and I have kind

771
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,880
of created new problems. There's sometimes I'll just know and

772
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,760
I just because I also, I'm gonna just say it,

773
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,280
I see in the heavenlies and what I mean by that,

774
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,239
I've been given the gift of discerning of spirits. So

775
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,559
from time to time I do now get to see demons.

776
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,760
God shows me and when they're on people. Not all

777
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,199
the time. There are people that I've I have done

778
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,239
deliverances on where I never saw it until we were

779
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,320
in deliverance. So for whatever reason God shows in his sovereignty,

780
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,679
I wasn't going to know I've had. And my wife

781
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,760
gets heavy empathy, a gift of empathy where she can

782
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,280
feel where they are because guys, when the spirit of

783
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360
heaviness the wordy about tells us put on a garment

784
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,960
of praise, that spirit is a demon heaviness, right, And

785
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,239
I don't know how many times we do deliverances and

786
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440
all of a sudden, the person's standing taller, their skin

787
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,760
gets flush and clear and looks healthy, and all of

788
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,679
a sudden, bam, It's it's like clockwork every time. I

789
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:10,559
don't even want to say this stuff that happens afterwards,

790
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:12,440
where people are like and what they the results are,

791
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,480
what they say, because I don't want them to know.

792
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,119
I want them to know they're supposed to do it.

793
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,639
So the way I didn't, I didn't construct anything, if

794
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:20,840
that makes sense. So I got that you don't want

795
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,559
to pre program people. You want them to their right natural,

796
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,360
God given response to this. So if you and I

797
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,719
were sitting here and you were starting the process of

798
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,960
deliverance with me, I would start asking questions because something

799
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,159
I also want to determine. First off, do you truly

800
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:36,840
need deliverance? And why do you think so? And then

801
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,440
second off, when I'm also looking within, this is a

802
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,679
few handful of things. First off, a person doesn't need

803
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,440
deliverance or at least in an area of their life if

804
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,639
it's heart issue, right, a heart issue can't we don't

805
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:51,159
need to do a deliverance that and we need healing.

806
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719
So healing and deliverance are two different things, and oftentimes

807
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,559
they think it's one and the same, and there are

808
00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:00,199
can be some crossovers, right because because curses happen, things

809
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,559
like that spirit of infirmity, for example. But when we

810
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,519
are in our investigation process, let's just say all the signs,

811
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,239
all right, we know we're supposed to do with deliverance.

812
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,079
Because what I'm really looking for is what's going on

813
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,599
in your life? What is going on that doesn't line

814
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,719
up with the word of God? So what lies are

815
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,400
you living out?

816
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: Right?

817
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:26,079
Speaker 2: Anger? Spirit of murder? Are you struggling with suicide, addiction?

818
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 4: You name it right, fill in the blink, adultery, And

819
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,679
that's the thing, is like even trauma happening, right, abandonment, orphanage, right,

820
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,519
if you didn't.

821
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: Have a father, huge, huge red flag, we'll call it.

822
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,559
Speaker 4: The other thing that God does is prophetically speaks to

823
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,320
me in those moments, and people who have been delivered,

824
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,880
and it's a lot, they would tell you these things

825
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,920
like it's real. God will tell me things that I

826
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,480
would never know right in the moment the Holy Spirit

827
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:50,440
directs me, and I always I say to them, I say,

828
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,719
holy ghosts, don't lie because some of the things I've

829
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,199
been told, given visions and given descriptions. I would never

830
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280
know how it worn't for the work of the Lord

831
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,599
working through me, because then now they're like, you know.

832
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,519
Speaker 1: That this has happened to me one time once what

833
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:12,159
you just described, and I could not believe the light

834
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,840
it brought to me.

835
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: Now someone speaking to you, or I was speaking to

836
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,400
a young woman.

837
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,559
Speaker 1: I gave a speech at a place and her friends

838
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,559
older friends.

839
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: She she's good parents.

840
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,199
Speaker 1: You know, but she wasn't. Things weren't good at home.

841
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,559
So she was staying with some friends of mine, very

842
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:32,519
good Christian people, nothing weird. And they'd asked me, hey,

843
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,440
would you talk with her after the speech? She really

844
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,280
likes your podcast.

845
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,079
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, God should be an honor.

846
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 1: And she walked up to me and introduced herself and Robbie,

847
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:44,519
this is just came out of me. I looked like,

848
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:50,119
I go, church is scary, isn't it. She went yes,

849
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,800
and I said, sit with me.

850
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: Church hurts. Yeah, how do you know this holy Spirit?

851
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:08,559
Speaker 1: I've ever met you? And she revealed a few more

852
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:12,400
things to me. And this girl's nineteen, she's how do

853
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,800
you know these things? I go, I don't. It's a

854
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,039
holy Spirit. And one of the organizers came over because

855
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:19,840
I was supposed to get back up on stage and says, hey,

856
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,840
can you come over her? This is important that I

857
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,199
looked at my God brother, I'm here to tell you

858
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,960
it's not. And I turned back and was talking to

859
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,480
this young woman. And in that moment God gave me

860
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,239
the words to give to her so she might consider

861
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,199
going back to church. She is back, she's active, she's

862
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,599
joined ministries. And I mean, Robbie, in fifteen seconds, I knew,

863
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,360
so I can relate to that. So you're saying that

864
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,719
in the process of delivering people, sometimes the Holy Spirit

865
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,559
delivers to you a detailed picture and you say to

866
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,360
a person, Hey, have you ever been through the following

867
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,800
trauma at a place time and this happened. You've got

868
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,599
to have people look at.

869
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: You going, oh, are you a peeping tom like that?

870
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 3: Right?

871
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:12,159
Speaker 4: Right, No, you're reading my mail essentially, right, what you experience,

872
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880
that's called the spirit of knowledge. So God gave you knowledge,

873
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,199
insight into the person's life. Now what I want with

874
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880
knowledge is wisdom, because wisdom now tells me how do

875
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
I apply this? How do I enter the situation with

876
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:24,800
this knowledge You've given me? Lord, So I can make

877
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,880
a difference because like with the flock. I know a

878
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,800
lot about what's going on in people's lives, even though

879
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,639
they they don't always know that.

880
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,199
Speaker 2: I know, right, because God tells me.

881
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: And it's not so I can be a jerk, or

882
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,320
sometimes it's not even so I can tell say something

883
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,840
to him. God doesn't even want me to release it,

884
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,760
and so he I know. And now I can minister

885
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,440
accordingly with grace and compassion and truth, right, and so

886
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,639
he Now I take that and wisdom applied to it

887
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,320
is minister to the person in such a manner that

888
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,239
they're not a hurt, right, and that you take care

889
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,639
of them more gently. And for example, in kind of

890
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:03,519
this vein, for example, and the deliverance, I'm just gonna

891
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,280
use it a person. My wife and I were doing

892
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,679
deliverance on the Lord. Clearly in the middle of it

893
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,239
tells me bestiality wow, right, And and I'm like, okay.

894
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,119
And because I have these moments where I don't want

895
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:18,679
but I know the Lord's boice so well, I know

896
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,320
when it's him that spoke, and he never lies, it's

897
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,880
never wrong.

898
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,199
Speaker 2: My faith and trust in God is through the room.

899
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,480
So you actually said to a.

900
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: Person, oh, I came right, out and I said, look,

901
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,599
I said, it's gonna sound crazy, and I don't even

902
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:32,360
want to say this because I have to say some

903
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
things that I that that would be hurtful or offensive

904
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,039
oftentimes if it weren't for the fact that they're true,

905
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,000
because God.

906
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,039
Speaker 2: Wants me to help heal.

907
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 4: I'm a minister of the Gospel, and my job is

908
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,159
to help apply the freedom that God has for this

909
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,239
person and deliverance. But in order to do it, they

910
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,039
would need to be willing and wanting to be delivered.

911
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,480
They need to be already a Christian.

912
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:52,079
Speaker 2: They need to be.

913
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,679
Speaker 4: Ready to obey the word of God and give forgiveness

914
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:59,159
and things like this and believe that it is for them, right,

915
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360
and some other parameters in that regard. But so I

916
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,280
say this and the person's like, they are just like floored,

917
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,880
and they're like, how did you know that?

918
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, holy ghost, don't lie. I told you.

919
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,480
The Lord tells me things and I have to.

920
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,079
Speaker 4: And then the person said, okay, that happened when they

921
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,920
were younger, this thing, right, I don't't go into details,

922
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,199
but and they said, when they were praying and talking

923
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,679
with the Lord like about this getting the deliverance and

924
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,119
needing it, and they were, and the Lord was putting

925
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,519
on their heart or whatever was going on. The person said,

926
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719
and I am not talking about that. I will not

927
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,360
talk about that. The only way if I have to

928
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,599
address that, Lord, you have to bring it up.

929
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,639
Speaker 2: Guess what he did? A brought it up, because you don't.

930
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,199
Speaker 4: People are so unaware of what is actually holding them down,

931
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,559
what is actually spiritually bringing them down. If the Church

932
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:52,960
was walking in the true freedom that God has for

933
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:56,960
them from deliverance because of the resources, in my opinion,

934
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,719
and what the Western Church has access to that others don't,

935
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,159
we would have faith that actually moves mountains. Even though

936
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,639
if you go to that that's a whole own story,

937
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:08,880
that doesn't actually mean it was a figure of speech

938
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,679
in the Hebrew.

939
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: So but.

940
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: The things that the Western Church would be able to

941
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:20,320
accomplish in the Lord would glow through it.

942
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Speaker 2: My wife and I are able to live like the disciples.

943
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,679
Speaker 4: Literally we don't have paychecks, and yet everything we always say,

944
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,199
never miss me, will never miss a payment. And I

945
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960
believe it's because of the willingness, the level of obedience.

946
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,079
We've been willing to walk out even when it doesn't

947
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,320
make sense and even when I don't understand. I don't

948
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,320
understand everything about deliverance. I don't ever understand everything about

949
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,239
the Word of God. But what I do know is

950
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,440
he doesn't lie. And just as Moses was like, Lord,

951
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,519
I'm not going to the Promised Land unless you're with me,

952
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:52,480
he would rather stand in the desert for forty years

953
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,599
with God there than be in the Promised Land where

954
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:56,400
it's supposed to be a blessing but him not be there.

955
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,360
I want to go wherever the Lord is, and if

956
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,519
he tells me I'm supposed to go there, and I'll

957
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,239
go there. And that's the thing, is what I have

958
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,119
found is when I go where we're supposed to go,

959
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,280
I get to meet the Lord.

960
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,599
Speaker 2: I have encounters with them.

961
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Speaker 1: And one of the places you're supposed to go was

962
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:12,199
christ Fits and the stated conversation back to that, because

963
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,079
you are about to blow past the space you have

964
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:19,119
in the North Idaho area. So let's talk about that

965
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:23,000
here in a second. There's I've never gotten to introduced

966
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:24,920
to you to my friend Tim Krukshank and talked about

967
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,519
his company here.

968
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: He was a Navy seal. Oh yeah you've told me

969
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,559
about Yeah, yeahyeah, great guy.

970
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: And you get to meet him with it. By the way, dude,

971
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,079
I never did tell you I did that seal fit thing.

972
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,559
I got my butt kickick. I wouldn't believe my kidney's

973
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,719
shut down. I got pulled, medical pulled. I'll tell you

974
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,840
about here a second. So Tim is my friend who

975
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,519
runs bone Frog Coffee. He's man you talk about a storm,

976
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:47,800
just like Robbie. He lost his beloved wife Liz, and

977
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,599
Tim had helped her live a long long time past

978
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:55,239
a terminal cancer diagnosis just through love and commitment. And

979
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,880
so he had his first Christmas this year without his

980
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,760
beloved wife Liz. So he is, we'll pushing away on

981
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,480
the coffee company. And here's the deal. And I want

982
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,159
to just dress this directly to people who have bought

983
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:07,400
the coffee and have loved it.

984
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: We subscribe.

985
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: You're going to save fifteen percent for life on these subscriptions.

986
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,440
You're not going to run out of coffee. And it's

987
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,599
super easy. If like one month, you want to have

988
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:20,119
more of the dark roast you want to have, you

989
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,199
want to have the goat Locker blends, you can go

990
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,440
get that. You want the classic own Frog, go get that.

991
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,239
You want the light roast, just do that. Whatever you

992
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,280
can change, it super easily shows up at your doorstep.

993
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,280
And by the way, Tim still writes handwritten notes in

994
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,599
the orders. It might be his daughter who writes that

995
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:39,480
from time to time. But it's fifteen percent off because

996
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,239
this year I want to help Tim grow this base

997
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,800
of predictable revenues. Also this if you're subscribed, get the merch,

998
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,280
help us spread the word about this great coffee mentored

999
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,079
by Dave Stewart who created Sales Best Coffee, so the

1000
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:56,719
coffee is legit and real. Tim hires veterans whenever he can.

1001
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,639
He works with veteran owned companies and show off those

1002
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,960
bags Man God Country Team right there on the label.

1003
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,880
That's never going to change. There was that big, famous

1004
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,920
veteran known coffee company named after the color of a.

1005
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,079
Speaker 2: Gun, a long gun. And then a.

1006
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:17,559
Speaker 1: Guy needed his Second Amendment rights Kyle Rittenhouse and I

1007
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:19,840
think it was the investors, the hedge fund guys who

1008
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,360
run that company, now is understand it. They stepped back

1009
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,880
and said, oh, we can't have that Second Amendment, so.

1010
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: They backed off. Tim's not going to do that.

1011
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: Go to Bonefrog Coffee dot com, slash Todd use promo

1012
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,000
code toad to get tempercent off a single purchase.

1013
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: But don't do that.

1014
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Subscribe get fifteen percent off Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash

1015
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:41,920
Todd So, Robbie, one of the places you were called

1016
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,360
to go was christ Fit and when that happened, I

1017
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,199
remember it started as a mobile gym, and then you

1018
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,760
got a location and you're banging it out there. It's

1019
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,199
donation based, so people can come in and donate rack rates,

1020
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,480
like a decent CrossFit gym is one fifty to maybe

1021
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,159
two hundred a month. There's classes, et cetera. But you

1022
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,360
can also have people coming in who don't have the money.

1023
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:07,719
Right now, you're telling me, you guys need a new location.

1024
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,679
You need new donors, so you need a new North

1025
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:10,320
Idaho location.

1026
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1027
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 4: We have almost eight hundred members. Wow, we're only able

1028
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,519
to service about three percent of them. And we're just

1029
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:19,639
a small facility. We're three thousand square feet but we

1030
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:21,760
have a breakroom, we have office, two bathrooms, and then

1031
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,559
we have a physical therapist on site, doctor of Physical

1032
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,239
Therapy Elevate.

1033
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: Two to eight.

1034
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: Now he's separate up but attached to part of he's

1035
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,159
also a part of my church. Yeah, and he has

1036
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,360
an office plus a second one and then we have

1037
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,159
a kid section because he just hired a second physical

1038
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:37,320
therapist to work for them because.

1039
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: They're just so busy.

1040
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,079
Speaker 4: So we're really operating with about twelve hundred square feet.

1041
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: Wow, So it's not a lot.

1042
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: And our classes range one might have four all the

1043
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,079
way up to you know, fifteen sixteen is I'd say

1044
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:49,760
ten or more is our average, especially on the five

1045
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,639
thirty in the three thirty class, but we've had classes

1046
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:54,800
with twenty nine people in there.

1047
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,639
Speaker 2: You just can't move.

1048
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: Honestly, if it was if I had my perfect way,

1049
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:00,679
it would just be six people class with a bar

1050
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,519
because it's just tight quarters.

1051
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: We need a new location.

1052
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: We've had over sixty people led to Christ and the

1053
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:11,199
Christ to the gym, yep to the gym. And that's

1054
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,000
the thing is, even though I'm a deliverance pastor, my

1055
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,880
focus is the gospel right. Salvation is the most important thing.

1056
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,039
Let me make this very very very clear. I am

1057
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,519
all about the Father's business and Salvation is the key

1058
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,280
to everything. So our goal is to unite the church,

1059
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,880
equipped the saints, and reach the lost, make Jesus famous right,

1060
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,719
sharing the gospel through exercise and events and The result

1061
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,360
is we've probably got currently going close to fifteen different

1062
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,679
churches represented in the region already going their pastors, senior

1063
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,760
pastors from other churches talking about deliverance.

1064
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,119
Speaker 2: I've done deliverances on multiple pastors, senior.

1065
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: Pastors in this this who didn't believe in it, didn't

1066
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,239
walk in it, came to me and asked for it,

1067
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,360
and they and now they're preaching it and bring it

1068
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,960
into their church. Why because they realized they were wrong.

1069
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,199
They've repented for not believing things like this. That's how

1070
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,639
I mean, it's so real. So but the real story

1071
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:05,280
here for the christ Fit is we need a new location.

1072
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,920
I have a location a couple of week blocks down

1073
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,239
the road that we really want. I would really like

1074
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,760
to have that. I think it's the perfect next step

1075
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,039
size to really be able to bring in more of

1076
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,400
the public and especially the actual current base that we have.

1077
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,360
It's sixty five hundred square feet ideally I'd love like

1078
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,920
ten thousand.

1079
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:27,559
Speaker 2: But so we need donors. So how do people get

1080
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:28,559
to you so they can do that?

1081
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: Christ Fit gym c d A dot org Again, christ

1082
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,880
Fit jim c DA dot org is where you can

1083
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,840
make donations through. There also Venmo, but you know, under

1084
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,360
six hundred bucks on Venmo. And and but christ Fit,

1085
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Jim cdlorry come in check.

1086
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: So forth.

1087
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 4: Most of our donors are actually not even going to

1088
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,320
the gym. They just believe in what we're doing or

1089
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,199
they've experienced something through us, and so now they they.

1090
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: Do it and donate. And many people that.

1091
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,119
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be able to have fitness otherwise now have fitness

1092
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,239
because we're really worried about everything, the whole package. So

1093
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,639
every class starts with prayer, then I preach. We call

1094
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,480
it devotional. And we have another trainer. Her name is Michelle.

1095
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,679
She does the eight thirty class. She's also a very

1096
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,719
gifted public speaker. She's in women's ministry and travels and speaks.

1097
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,760
And then she's also a CrossFit Level one coach and

1098
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,800
her name is Michelle Tufford and wonderful woman of God.

1099
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,559
So she does the eight thirty classes. I do all

1100
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,320
the other classes. And then we have a young man

1101
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,199
from our church. Also we'll call it being groomed to

1102
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,840
be a pastor from our church. He feels called in

1103
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,880
nine years roughly because God put it on heart would

1104
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,679
be ten years. And that's a year ago He's going

1105
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,320
to launch a christ Fit in Australia and that's going

1106
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,719
to have a church in it. We're also already God's

1107
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,199
given me the vision for it, and we're looking at Athel.

1108
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,559
We need property in Athel, by the.

1109
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: Way, because we're a global podcast.

1110
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,559
Speaker 4: I know a weird name, guys Athel. I know that

1111
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,519
Idaho we have some weird names like Ratam and Apple.

1112
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,440
But Athel, we need property. God's given me a very

1113
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,800
big vision for that one. What I'm discerning right now

1114
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,400
with our eldership is whether or not we'll have a

1115
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,440
church in that one and if so, if I'm going

1116
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,199
to be the senior pastor of it. If I do,

1117
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,519
then I will back off and not probably do classes.

1118
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:09,360
So in that vision, we're gonna have a Fruits to

1119
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960
the Spirit smoothie shop. I want to have hyperbaric chamber.

1120
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,480
We're gonna have an outdoor gym. I want to have

1121
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:14,239
a mountain.

1122
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: Next to it so you can bring your rucksacks and

1123
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,119
get ready for hunting.

1124
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: A little kind of library and open mic and worship

1125
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,360
stuff going on at the Fruits of the Spirit.

1126
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,079
Speaker 2: I want to have a five.

1127
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 4: Hundred seat plus or more theater for Christian wholesome entertainment

1128
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,519
for the community, and then that would probably we were

1129
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:33,159
the church ends up being within it too, but that

1130
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,440
we need property and athle to pull this off. I

1131
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,159
know it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of who

1132
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,159
and when and how, and God decides to do it.

1133
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: Like christ Fit, we started got to put us on

1134
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,079
the heart.

1135
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here trying to create, like all right, Lord,

1136
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920
And for like eight months, we're trying to get donations,

1137
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,679
trying to do everything, and we're getting very minimal and

1138
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,039
I'm like, Lord, I'm looking stupid out here. And then

1139
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,559
all of a sudden, we get an almost fifty thousand

1140
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,840
dollars brand new mobile gym by beaver Fit donated to us,

1141
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,159
and so immediately I'm able to start in the parks.

1142
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: We are classes.

1143
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: The very first class we had three people, the second class,

1144
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,960
which was the very Monday fallowing Monday, six people, then twelve,

1145
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,559
and they kept doubling, doubling, doubling. Within six weeks, I

1146
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:13,679
didn't have all the donations we needed. I just signed

1147
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,239
for the new building, the one we have right now,

1148
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,119
And as soon as I signed it, then we got

1149
00:52:18,119 --> 00:52:21,679
donations to move into the building. And I'm talking miracles

1150
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:23,199
after miracles I could go into.

1151
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 2: But in order to fulfill this out and.

1152
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: Continue to change the community and make Jesus famous, which

1153
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,280
I don't think you can change the community without making

1154
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,039
Jesus famous.

1155
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,159
Speaker 2: Uh, we need another building.

1156
00:52:33,639 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: We've we've had atheists, people from the lgbt Q give

1157
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:43,119
their lives to the Lord in the building, Mormons, Catholics.

1158
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,920
So it's been it's been wild. And then healings and deliverances.

1159
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,800
Obviously deliverances. We have deliverances have just last week, a

1160
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,519
member of ours that goes to Candlelight got delivered at

1161
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,519
the end of the workout. It just happened organically. She

1162
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,719
was like praying, like God would quiet her mind all

1163
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,920
these things, and she ended it was so beautiful and

1164
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,920
the whole next the other class, and mind you, these

1165
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,840
are people from all different churches in the community. Everyone's

1166
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,639
here and we're all in uncommon you know, and everyone

1167
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:11,559
just lays hands on her and I start praying. We

1168
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:13,760
end up I just follow the unctions of the Lord

1169
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,880
and we and what she's already said and walking through deliverance,

1170
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,599
and her immediate reaction.

1171
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: Is just how joyful she feels, how.

1172
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: Peace and it's quiet and that then earlier this week

1173
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,679
see her and she's like, my in my head has

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been quieter than it's ever been her whole life. She's

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she's feeling peace that she has never felt. So she's

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getting an experience the goodness of God that gets robbed

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because the enemy comes to kill, still and destroy. So

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and then healings. We've had, for example, two people come

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to mind terminally ill, cancer, gonna pass.

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Speaker 2: Fairly quick, pray over him, healed.

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Speaker 4: A child was born immediately puting Niku with a whole

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in the heart. We prayed over him and he was

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healed very next day, taking off the feeding to very

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next day, went home. Healing after healing, after healing, keeps

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happening here, like God is doing crazy, crazy things that

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I can go into, so many of them, so many

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testimonies are coming out of here that they're just I

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don't have to sit here and tell stuff. I'm grateful

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I have a mic right now to say it. But

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people are doing it themselves. God's literally spreading with himself.

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So we have people show up. We have people calls

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from different states asking for prayer, uh because.

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Speaker 2: They're hearing about what God is doing in here. And

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God and it's all him right God, Robbie Walden christ Fit.

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It's christ Fit dot Cdachris Fit, Jim christ fit dot org.

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And we'll put a link in the show notes right now,

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so much all right, this is the Todd Herman Show.

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Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind and walk

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in the light of Christ.