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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Dick Fits for us from Lincoln, California, and

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<v Speaker 2>I play at sun City Lincoln Hills golf Course.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Golf Smarter number one thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't thank you enough for mentioning this because the

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<v Speaker 2>posture is probably the most overlook fundamental. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of the swing plane to make your golf swing

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<v Speaker 2>much easier, and how far you stand away from the

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<v Speaker 2>golf ball is going to have a huge effect again

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<v Speaker 2>on the swing plane, and so that's why we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>into a specific posture for the golf swing. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting into a posture to get comfortable. We're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>into a posture to have someone tackle us. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>none of this sitting in a bar stool. We're basically

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<v Speaker 2>taking a golf swing that close around our body and

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<v Speaker 2>the balls on the ground. So what we need to

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<v Speaker 2>do is to tilt forward from our hips and make

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<v Speaker 2>the whole swing circle angle down at a forty five

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<v Speaker 2>so now we can go ahead and hit that. So

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to work on your posture is making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you don't sit like you're in a bar stool.

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<v Speaker 2>What you want to do is you want to bend

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<v Speaker 2>from the hips and you want to bend forward until

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<v Speaker 2>the club touches the ground. And so now what I've

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<v Speaker 2>done is I've taken my shoulder plane. I've taken my

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<v Speaker 2>hip plane, and I've got a much better chance of

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<v Speaker 2>getting the swing on plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Presenting the five fundamentals on how to make a golf

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<v Speaker 1>swing with instructor Joe Park. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,

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<v Speaker 1>tips and insights from great golf minds to help you

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<v Speaker 1>lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smurter Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe. Well, thanks Fred for having me on your show today.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a longtime listener of all of your guests

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<v Speaker 2>and have learned quite a bit from everybody. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great place to get a lot of golf information

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. That's really kind of you. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you say a long time listener, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you been listening?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you're probably well over nine hundred episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I guess, yeah, So that's that's a long

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<v Speaker 2>time I've been listening. Oh at least eight nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find it? How did you find golf smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a golf professional, and so one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I like to do is to research what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the golf world. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast became very popular, and as they became more popular,

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<v Speaker 2>we got an opportunity to listen to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great minds through the interviews, like your show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank You, Thank You. Which golf instructors or instructor has

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<v Speaker 1>resonated with you that's been on the show that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jumped out and it is like this guy's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's no one. If there was one

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<v Speaker 2>guy that kind of stands out and be Tony, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tony is yah. One of the reasons why is

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<v Speaker 2>he and I kind of share the same beliefs about

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really call it a single pivot or any

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<v Speaker 2>of that. I like to keep golfers a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more on their left side because it's so difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get to the right side and then to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the left side. And we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do this in all less than a quarter of a second.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if a golf swing is one second, the

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<v Speaker 2>backswing is three quarters of that, and so the downswing

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<v Speaker 2>is a quarter of a second. So even the best athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what sport you play, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult time getting from the right side back to

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<v Speaker 2>the left side. And so weightshift has become a big

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<v Speaker 2>you know, depends on what kind of camp you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, science wise, yes, you need that weight shift.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to do long drive contests and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be hitting four hundred and fifty yards and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to win, you're going to be using some

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<v Speaker 2>of that mass along with velocity in order to get

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<v Speaker 2>as max distance as you can for one ball. Though

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in golf you need more than one ball

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<v Speaker 2>in play, and the distance you certainly don't need as

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<v Speaker 2>much now on tour and professionals and those guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are playing for living, without a doubt, there's a certain

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<v Speaker 2>distance that they need to hit. And I think amateur

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<v Speaker 2>golfers as a whole, up to like ten ten handicap golfers,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't realize that they don't need to hit it

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<v Speaker 2>as far in order to have a very good game.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, with things likes Arcos, who has that

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<v Speaker 2>all that information, they got over a billion bits of

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<v Speaker 2>golfers doing things so they know what golfers need to

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<v Speaker 2>improve on and improve in order to lower their handicap.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things in there is that for

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<v Speaker 2>a ten handicap, did you know that you only need

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<v Speaker 2>to hit the ball what two hundred yards in the

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<v Speaker 2>fairway and two twenty five in the rough to lose

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<v Speaker 2>zero strokes to all ten handicap golfers. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about that and I look at the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the golfers that are on the golf course, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he could hit it two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five yards with a driver in their hand, probably with

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<v Speaker 2>a three wood in their hand. The problem is when

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<v Speaker 2>you stand there and you put all these extra curricular

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<v Speaker 2>movements mostly to try to get more distance, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're sacrificing solid contact and other things that is very

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<v Speaker 2>beneficial to get the maximum distance and to keep it

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<v Speaker 2>in play. So when Tony was a big promonent of

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<v Speaker 2>the single pivot, he was really staying more on your

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<v Speaker 2>left side as much as you could so that in

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<v Speaker 2>the back in the downswing, the weight is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>transferred over there and now you don't have to shift

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<v Speaker 2>your weight. And when you think about the golf swing

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<v Speaker 2>and think about it in a circular motion, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have at the very bottom of the circle, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a low point and that's the bottom of the swing art,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we need to move that bottom of that

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<v Speaker 2>swing art in front of the golf ball. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when we start moving to the right and left, we're

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<v Speaker 2>constantly moving that swing art and don't even realize what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing. We're moving our swing the whole time. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's much easier to just stay stationary feeling wise where

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<v Speaker 2>you've got. You know, when you said sixty forty to

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<v Speaker 2>stay on that side, and then eventually at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the golf swing you even felt a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more on that side. Now some people would say, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that's crazy, because you know, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense, but scientifically it does make sense

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<v Speaker 2>when you think of the circle right and you're making

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<v Speaker 2>the golf swing, and let's go back to like the

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<v Speaker 2>first position in the backswing where the shaft is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of parallel to the ground, and that part is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the farthest, outermost part of the circle. And

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<v Speaker 2>then from there the circle starts to come back towards

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<v Speaker 2>the target. So when we stand at the tarp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we stand there after that position, the club is

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<v Speaker 2>already starting to go towards the target. And so as

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<v Speaker 2>the club is going towards the target, the best golfers

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<v Speaker 2>we know now with technology there are already have started

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<v Speaker 2>their downsliding before the backswing finishes. And now you can

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<v Speaker 2>I can explain it to you just from the circle

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<v Speaker 2>that after P two or you know, shaft parallel, it's

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<v Speaker 2>starting to go back up and it's going in and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going towards the target. So it's staying on plane,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also moving and so some of that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to move you and shift you. And there's where

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<v Speaker 2>you get the seventy where seventy more, you know, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of sixty forty, Now you go seventy and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>more of that on that left side. And now all

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is focus on hitting down and

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<v Speaker 2>compressing that ball because you've already you know, in a sense,

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<v Speaker 2>shifted your weight. Now you can delay that longer for

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<v Speaker 2>of course, if you're trying to hit the ball farther,

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<v Speaker 2>but as I mentioned, it's unnecessary for a lot of golfers.

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<v Speaker 2>You can play a lot of very good golf just

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<v Speaker 2>staying on your left side or feeling like. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing, yeah, because you know when we're moving

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<v Speaker 2>it off to the right, and you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>for that split second and then everything comes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. And the reason why is our brain

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<v Speaker 2>is getting ready for a lot of our intentions that

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to do. So for example, when you're like

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to really hit a long ball and you

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<v Speaker 2>wind up and you get ready, your muscles are and

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<v Speaker 2>your brain's getting ready to put the brakes on and

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<v Speaker 2>stop your golf swing and get ready for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>also usually shortens up the swing when people are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to hit it farther unless they're really loose and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize that. So our brains are reacting to what

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do. All we want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>really understand, you know, obviously the ball flight laws and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the swing mechanics so that we can repeat

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<v Speaker 2>the shot over and over again and staying on our

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<v Speaker 2>left side feeling like, because you will shift a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we talk about shifting, you know, we know

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<v Speaker 2>now with gears and three you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>high tech equipment, the amount of shift off to the

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<v Speaker 2>right is about the size of a golf ball. So

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<v Speaker 2>but so even if we did right, let's say that

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<v Speaker 2>we did, that's how much Rory is moving off the ball. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's hitting it a long ways and he's winding

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<v Speaker 2>up and the rest of us don't need that. We

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<v Speaker 2>can play a lot of very good golf by first

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<v Speaker 2>starting to hit the ball more solid, and by hitting

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<v Speaker 2>the ball more solid and hitting down on the golf ball,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not hanging back and scooping up on it

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<v Speaker 2>and getting under it and adding too much law. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's just way more benefits to staying on your left

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<v Speaker 2>side than there is to getting onto your right side.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you think about, you know about weight shift

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<v Speaker 2>and legs, you know, I'm not going to say that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a part of it. It's just they get

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<v Speaker 2>too much of the of the you know, publicity. When

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<v Speaker 2>we know that you can hit balls off your knees

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<v Speaker 2>quite a way. You know, we've seen tiger woods to

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<v Speaker 2>long drive people hit the ball a long waist. About

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent of your clubhead speed is going to

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<v Speaker 2>come from your hands, wrists and forearms. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>you get too much of that body involved, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and think that the arms come along for the ride,

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<v Speaker 2>you got another thing coming. If you want to increase

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<v Speaker 2>your clubhead speed, you know, the simplest way when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>says I want to get faster clubhead speed, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you got to think about you. You're holding the club

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<v Speaker 2>with your hands, and so in order to get that

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<v Speaker 2>to go faster, you got to move your hand faster,

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<v Speaker 2>and to move the hands faster, your arms and then

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<v Speaker 2>your upper body. So you really got to get those

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<v Speaker 2>upper body parts moving and then the lower body helps

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<v Speaker 2>adjust the rest of that and you know, transports the

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<v Speaker 2>package into the delivery, so it allows your arms and

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<v Speaker 2>hands to do some work too. Everybody plays a role,

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<v Speaker 2>so we just have to understand who plays what role,

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<v Speaker 2>and the body plays a role, but we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get the arms and hands to play a little more,

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<v Speaker 1>As an instructor, you probably hear the same thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about faster club head speed, that equates to greater distance.

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<v Speaker 1>But people get lost in the fact that the a

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<v Speaker 1>club head speed, don't you. You need to increase your

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, there's no question that, like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>if the body gets out in front, that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>from doing their job. And they've got to be moving.

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<v Speaker 2>So the best way that I could explain it to you,

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<v Speaker 2>if we think about just thinking circles. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>golf swing is a circle. Let's think of the club

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<v Speaker 2>head as being a big circle. And then let's think

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<v Speaker 2>of your hips as a circle. Now that's smaller, and

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<v Speaker 2>so when we come back down on our downswing, all

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<v Speaker 2>the circles, which circle has the most to travel and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be the club head and so they need

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<v Speaker 2>to get going. But you'll never see this on video.

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<v Speaker 2>So on video, what you're going to see is sequencing.

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<v Speaker 2>the golfer, the golf swing's already going towards the target,

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<v Speaker 2>working their way all the way up. What we're not

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<v Speaker 2>seeing in that from a science or engineering standpoint is

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<v Speaker 2>the acceleration rates. So how much faster does the clubhead

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<v Speaker 2>the hips and the body as they turn. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the body the hips are turning what forty five, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>forty five degrees, the shoulders ninety a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>if you can, and then you know, the club head

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<v Speaker 2>is going to how much farther. So it's an unfair

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<v Speaker 2>race when we start the downswing that we start with

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<v Speaker 2>the better golfers, what they do is get stuck. And

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<v Speaker 2>too early with the lower body. So what you want

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<v Speaker 2>as quickly as possible and the rest of the body

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<v Speaker 2>will catch you up. It's like running. When you want

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<v Speaker 2>even realize it. So by moving your arms and hands faster,

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<v Speaker 2>it picks up the speed of the rest of your

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<v Speaker 2>body to turn. So we got to look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take a step back, look at it from

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<v Speaker 2>an engineering and science of how it all happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>then come back and then you can tell me what

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<v Speaker 2>you like and what you don't like. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to stay with the golf swing with physics

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<v Speaker 2>and geometry, you know, physics is what's powering the swing,

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<v Speaker 2>and geometry is the shape of the swing, and so

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<v Speaker 2>how we stand to the ball and how we make

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<v Speaker 2>our swing plane is going to have a huge effect

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<v Speaker 2>on the clubhead speed. Way more over, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>spin my hips, or I got to turn my body,

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<v Speaker 2>or that I got to be in the gym. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even Tony was mentioning how old he was

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<v Speaker 2>and he was hitting the ball long ways, and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like he needed to work on doing much.

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<v Speaker 2>He could always do it in a presentation, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. So a lot of this, I understand, is

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<v Speaker 2>my talk. But my children who I'm training, they are

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<v Speaker 2>professional golfers today. So if you go on if you

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<v Speaker 2>go on my Instagram, and you'll see the pictures and

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<v Speaker 2>the videos of them demonstrating some of my fundamentals that

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<v Speaker 2>you know that I've taught them over the years. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be going to Q school this fall,

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<v Speaker 2>and so both of them, yes, and so we're grad

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, but you know, we still have to get

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<v Speaker 2>through that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all the fact that they're even scheduled to

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the stuff that I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>you about are the stuff that I instilled to my

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. I also worked with one gentleman, I

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<v Speaker 2>worked with one other junior kid who I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with a scholarship in Florida. So I've worked at the

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I'm telling you, it's not just for

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<v Speaker 2>some senior golfer or some high handicap golfer. This is

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<v Speaker 2>for at the highest level. You know. This is for

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm with with my sons at a golf tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we got you know, five ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>invested in the tournament. We can't miss this cut. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there's no you can't be doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>swing thoughts and a lot of ideas. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>pack your bags and go. And we've been at this

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<v Speaker 2>for over twenty years. Trust me when I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the stuff that we're talking about is

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<v Speaker 2>real world scenarios of what you really can do on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course, even at the highest level. And so

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<v Speaker 2>my kids are the perfect example. It's like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of teachers can talk concepts and ideas and maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that they work with and that they've taught. But here,

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked with my boys from you know, they started

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<v Speaker 2>So I've seen the swinging progress. I've watched it at

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<v Speaker 2>is what I just basically taught to boys. And if

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and thirty hundred and forty pounds and they

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<v Speaker 2>can hit the ball three hundred yards. So if they

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<v Speaker 2>can do that, I know anybody listening can do what

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, were you a golf instructor before you became a father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So I've been a golf teaching profra thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I started my career thirty years ago, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 2>the Mini Tours down in Florida, and I had an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to work with, you know, great coaches like Mike Bender.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're familiar with who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the top five coaches. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been for a long time and a big student, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a big student of the you know, the Maclgrady and

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<v Speaker 2>the Morod system, the golfing machine stack until so all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, Yeah, all of that was a very big

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<v Speaker 2>part of all of our teaching. So it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a teacher today, all of that had an

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<v Speaker 2>effect on your teaching. You know, one nugget here or there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all sharing that example in order to find the

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<v Speaker 2>big picture, which is to make the golf swing simpler

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<v Speaker 2>what I did is I just narrowed down basically the

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<v Speaker 2>five on them that I have worked on with my sons.

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<v Speaker 2>And these are the same fundamentals that I do in

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<v Speaker 2>every one of my golf lessons. So it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>who comes in. These five fundamentals that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>is grip, posture, backswing, down swing, and impact. And it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what concept or belief you have, You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to have all of these five fundamentals in

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<v Speaker 2>every golf swing. And so I've just what I've done

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<v Speaker 2>is I've created a little ebook to show you how

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<v Speaker 2>to just hold the club, how to take the back

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<v Speaker 2>swing just a simpler way, and hopefully I can explain

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<v Speaker 2>that to you today in a simple way so that

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<v Speaker 1>When you talked about that downswing a few minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were talking about getting a faster downswing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the issue that I seem to have and I see

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<v Speaker 1>with harder, again my observation, with swinging it harder, you're

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<v Speaker 2>there's no question it's important, but the amount of tension

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<v Speaker 2>is more reactionary. So like when somebody is going to

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<v Speaker 2>go down intentionally to go faster, the the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the muscles are going to adapt to what you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do. So the key is is your intention to

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<v Speaker 2>swing it faster with your arms or is it to

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, so it's not really how hard am

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<v Speaker 2>I holding it? It's dow I the lee that swinging

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of tension will naturally, you know, happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So your book is called Your Ebook is by Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Park and joeparkgolf dot Com is Joe Park's five Fundamentals

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<v Speaker 1>on how to make a golf swing. And it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty basic. It's it's not only great for beginners, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also a great reminder for all of us coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, a wet, wintry, cold winter when we're

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<v Speaker 1>not playing as much, our bodies are kind of falling

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<v Speaker 1>out of golf shape. This is great reminders for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to have. And it's not long. It's it's actually I

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<v Speaker 1>did it in three nights. I mean it's pretty that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fast for me. And you go chapter one the

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<v Speaker 1>grip to stance and postures, so you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, your five fundamentals grip, posture, backswing, down, swinging

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<v Speaker 1>the follow through. How does your book, your Ebook differ

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<v Speaker 1>from Ben Hogan's Five Fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, first of all, Ben Hogan's book is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful book. I'm a big fan, as everybody is. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there what can happen with that book is it

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<v Speaker 2>can get misinterpreted, just like a lot of things in life.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we have to remember Ben said right away

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the way that he played golf and

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<v Speaker 2>it and he did try to help, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>It said that he did give golf instructions. So he

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<v Speaker 2>suffered with having all of these high handicaps coming to him,

422
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<v Speaker 2>so he knows what they're suffering as well. Now, the

423
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>book itself in general is a great book with all

424
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the fundamentals. The difference is that he had a problem

425
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.599
<v Speaker 2>hooking the ball. And so if you go to ball

426
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>flight laws, we understand that you know, the face and

427
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the club path have a huge influence as well as

428
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the clubhead speed obviously, but have a huge influence on

429
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the direction of your ball flights. And Hogan was a

430
00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>hooker of the golf ball, and so what that meant

431
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 2>is that he hooked it to the left alive, and

432
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>so he needed a way to make sure that, according

433
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to ball flight laws, that the face wasn't close to

434
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>his swing or to his swing path. And so he

435
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>says it in I think in page thirty two, I

436
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>weakened my grip to the left because I have a

437
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>hooking problem. And unless you have that problem, you know,

438
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that's he forgot to say, unless you have that problem,

439
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.759
<v Speaker 2>don't do this. But he said I had a problem hooking,

440
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 2>so I turned it to the left. I made two changes,

441
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and he says that in there. So it's not for

442
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody to find that and see that red alarm. But

443
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that's what he did in order to fix his hook.

444
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Aside from that, uh, and then his downswing, he worked

445
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>on really starting his lower body to start the downswing.

446
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>And so if you think about somebody, somebody that hooks

447
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the ball for a better golfer, I talked about the downswing.

448
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:34.440
<v Speaker 2>When they start with the lower body, they can get stuck. Okay,

449
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 2>so they can get underneath. Now he didn't get stuck,

450
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.279
<v Speaker 2>but what that does for him is it opened the

451
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>face up a little bit more and it delayed it.

452
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 2>So between that move and that it kind of helped

453
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<v Speaker 2>him hit a straighter ball.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Can you define stuck.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Stuck meaning so stuck.

456
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>He didn't stop the swing right?

457
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, So what we're talking about is that

458
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>when we're talking the downswing, you know, we set up

459
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>at a dress and we're hopefully in a good position

460
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>at a dress and at the top of the golf sling,

461
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 2>we're in a good position up there where the left

462
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>arm is just covering the right shoulder. When the downslign begins,

463
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of high handicapped golfers, what will happen is

464
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>they'll come out to end like that and come across

465
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the ball, okay. And what happens from that is because

466
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe they start with the lower body starting to spin

467
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 2>the hips or their upper body and keeping the arms up,

468
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and that forces it to come come down out to end,

469
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and they don't realize that they're actually making that happen.

470
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 2>For a better golfer that doesn't do that, they have,

471
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna do that. What they're gonna do is

472
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna spin, and their hits are gonna clear, and

473
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the right elbow is gonna get stuck right here between

474
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 2>the right elbow, and so you can see how much

475
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>flatter the swing plane gets. Okay, and so from this

476
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 2>position you either have you're gonna end up having to

477
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>roll it and hit a big hook shot or hold

478
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the shot and what they call a block out to

479
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>the right. Okay, So it's not advisable for the high

480
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 2>handicap or the better golfer. Okay, thet either way. From here,

481
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you want to try to get your arms and hands

482
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>to come right back down, back down the plane that

483
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 2>you went back up on when you set up at

484
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 2>a dress here and hopefully when you set up at

485
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a dress that the shaft is sitting in the in

486
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the right angle, which should be about forty five degrees

487
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 2>to the ground. So if your posture is up like this,

488
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>or if you stand too far away from the ball,

489
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>that's going to affect your swing plane. That's going to

490
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>affect then the way that you come back down. So

491
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the simplest way to work on your down swing is,

492
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.079
<v Speaker 2>first of all, get a better grip. Okay. So in

493
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>what I do is I just have people hang their

494
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>left arm just by their left side. And when young

495
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>the left arm just by the left side, you'll see

496
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that the thumb wants to curl in more to the right.

497
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>The thumb does not want to go down the middle.

498
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>If you relax it, and if you then take your

499
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 2>grip from that position, it'll allow your wrist to hinge

500
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and it'll allow your face to be in the proper

501
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 2>position up at the top. And so the most common

502
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>grip that comes in in my lessons is the thumb

503
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 2>right down the middle, which you know Hogan did, because

504
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that allows a face to be open. But it's not

505
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>very good for the high handicap. They're coming out to

506
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 2>the end with an open club face. And a lot

507
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>of times that can be fixed just by getting the

508
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>grip in what I call a closed face grip instead

509
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 2>of an open face grip. Just to have it let

510
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>your left arm hang and it'll go just to the

511
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 2>right side, and then you'll see a couple of knuckles

512
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>on your left side and the upside down b will

513
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>point to your right shoulder. Now some people will call

514
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>this a strong grip. I call this a natural grip

515
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>because this is how your joints want to line if

516
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you put it down the if you just put it

517
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>in the middle, it'll want to go right like that

518
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 2>and that'll open the face. And so now you've got

519
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 2>all this extra work. So the simplest thing is to

520
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>just start with a grip that'll get the club pace

521
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 2>to come back more square and all of us can

522
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>do this by just hanging the left arm by your

523
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>left side. Anybody I've done this, you know for a

524
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>long time as a teacher. There's nobody that's come to

525
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>me down the middle. If anybody's down the middle because

526
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>they're hooking the ball, they're a plus handicap and their

527
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>problem isn't coming over the top and slicing. Okay, that's

528
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 2>a different whole issue, which which we can address too.

529
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking the ninety percent of golfers who come

530
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>over the top hit fat and thin shots. If you

531
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>could get a better grip, and Tony's idea of staying

532
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>more as well as mine, I say stay more on

533
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>your left side. Those two simple things is going to

534
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>get the face more where your weight transferred. And it's

535
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>already simplified the golf swing. So getting the grip in

536
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the right position with the left hand just letting it hang,

537
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and then your right hand, you want to make sure

538
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that it gets just behind the shaft to slightly under it,

539
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and you want it more in the fingers. Okay. So

540
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.599
<v Speaker 2>often I see the grip where it's in the palm

541
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 2>of the hand, and the reason they have in the

542
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>palm is it feels more comfortable, it feels like you

543
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>got really like, you know, you could really club somebody

544
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>with that. But I always say, listen, if you held

545
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a baseball in the palm of your hand, how far

546
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.319
<v Speaker 2>could you throw that versus if you had it in

547
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the fingers. So if you want to get a lot

548
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of clubheadspeed, just start with the right hand, making sure

549
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that it's more in the fingers, a little bit more

550
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 2>behind the shaft. It will feel like you can't hold

551
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 2>the club, and that's because those little muscles need to

552
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>be trained as well as they need to be strengthened.

553
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 2>But the minute that you hit the ball, you don't

554
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>believe how much more clubhead speed that you're going to

555
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 2>get because you can't throw it as fast in the

556
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>palm as in the fingers. So then the right hand,

557
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that it's in the fingers

558
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>and don't put that thumb down the middle again, that

559
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>thumb goes to the left side, and that's going to

560
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>help you with impact and triggerers and all kinds of

561
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>other good things. But that also helps you up at

562
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the top of the golf swing, support the club in

563
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the right position. That thumb being down the middle I

564
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>find has just hurt so many golf swing and forces

565
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the golf swing to come over the top as well.

566
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So just a simple lesson of the left hand in

567
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the right hand will allow the club to do the

568
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 2>things that it needs to do and the hands to

569
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 2>do what it needs to do. And then of course,

570
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>after we have a good grip, we have to get

571
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>into the right posture.

572
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is not something I usually do with this podcast,

573
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but I need to this last section that we've just

574
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 1>done with Joe. He's been standing up with a club

575
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in his hand, describing all this in full detail. I'm

576
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and take this segment and put this

577
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube so YouTube can see it as well, and

578
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back right after this. Now, getting back to

579
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the grip, Joe for just a second, you had this

580
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>great drill in here that I've never heard of before

581
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>called hot dog in a bun. And you also provided

582
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a secret tip with the right hand. If you didn't

583
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 1>cover those already, please share that with us.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so when your thumb is on the right side

585
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>and you've got your grip, just think of that as

586
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>like the hot dog, and when you put your right

587
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 2>hand it just covered your right palm. After you have

588
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>it in the fingers, you just cover that up with

589
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the palm of the right hand, and so then that

590
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>would be the bun. And so this is what I

591
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>get for the junior kids when we do our programs,

592
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>we say hot dog and a bun, and they never

593
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 2>forget to cover that thumb up with that right hand,

594
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>which is going to be very big in the golf

595
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>swing as we make our transition and so forth.

596
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>What's the downside? People I've seen just have a regular

597
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 1>like baseball bat grip where their hands are you know,

598
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 1>there's no overlapping at all. What are they uh, what's

599
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the detriment to doing it that way? What are they

600
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 1>losing out on?

601
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big I'm a big fan of the baseball grip.

602
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just you have to you have to hold it properly.

603
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 2>In baseball. The baseball grip basically is all ten fingers

604
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 2>on the on the club. It's just not interlocking or overlapping.

605
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>But you can have all ten fingers on the club.

606
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 2>You just got to make sure that it's in the

607
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>fingers and you can see I can still cover up

608
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>my left thumb. And so as far as the baseball

609
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 2>grip is concerned. I do this. I do this with

610
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of my juniors and a lot of ladies.

611
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>And the reason why is in the golf swing, when

612
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 2>we take the back swing, we want to get this

613
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.319
<v Speaker 2>club to stay on plane. And in order to stay

614
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>on plane, it's a very heavy club. And so the

615
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 2>more that you can get your right hand on the club,

616
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the better control you have to take this club up

617
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>and in get it on a better swing plane. And

618
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>so I don't mind that. As matter of fact, I

619
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 2>did you know that I mentioned earlier about one of

620
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>my students. He's off playing college with a ten finger grip.

621
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.039
<v Speaker 2>So it does work. It just it's not very popular

622
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people, but I love it for

623
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>golfers to start high handicap golfers. It gets you better

624
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>control of the right arm. And that is so important

625
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 2>in the golf swing is the right arm, and the

626
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>right arm controls the whole swing plane as you take

627
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>it back and fold. The swing plane needs to be

628
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>going back, it needs to be going up, and it

629
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>needs to be going in, and your right arm is

630
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the magic of the right arm is taking it back

631
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 2>up and in just by folding your right arm, and

632
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>when you're folding your right arm, you can get on

633
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the perfect swingplane. And then on the downswing you just

634
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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and unfold your arm, and that's what provides

635
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that downswing. Now, what happens is if you start an

636
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 2>unwined too quickly, you can unfold. And if you're not unfolding,

637
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 2>that's like I can't unwine my throat. And that's why

638
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you want to go ahead and just think about folding

639
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it up there and unfolding and getting those arms and

640
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.639
<v Speaker 2>hands to come back down and out towards the ball,

641
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's how you'll get your increased club headspe But

642
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the ten finger grip works and it's great for a

643
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 2>lot of beginners. So I'm a big fan of it.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, awesome. So in chapter two, I'm not going to

645
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>go through all five chapters, no problem. No, we want

646
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone to go ahead and get it for themselves, the

647
00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>ebook for themselves. But posture and stand and posture I

648
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>find there. You know, I've seen a lot of people

649
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<v Speaker 1>who may have the correct posture, and a lot of

650
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>people don't. They kind of hunch over more, but they're

651
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>also really far from the ball. They're really stretching their

652
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hands out and they're probably losing a lot when doing that.

653
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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain what happens if you are too far

654
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<v Speaker 1>from the ball or even too close, what's the impact.

655
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<v Speaker 2>On those I can't thank you enough for mentioning this,

656
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>because the posture is probably the most after the grip,

657
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>probably the most overlooked fundamental. It is going to make

658
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>or break your golf sling, and how far you stand

659
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>away from the golf ball or how close you are

660
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>is going to have a huge effect. Again on the

661
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>swing plane. I'm a big fan of the swing plane

662
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 2>to make your golf sling much easier. And so that's

663
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 2>why we're getting into a specific posture for the golf sling.

664
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<v Speaker 2>We're not getting into a posture to get comfortable. We're

665
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>not getting into a posture to have some and tackle us.

666
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>So there's none of this sitting in a bar stool.

667
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<v Speaker 2>We're basically taking a golf swing that close around our

668
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>body and the balls on the ground. So what we

669
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>need to do is to tilt forward from our hips

670
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 2>and make the whole swing circle angle down at a

671
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>forty five so now we can go ahead and hit that.

672
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>So the best way to work on your posture is

673
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.679
<v Speaker 2>making sure that you don't sit like you're in a

674
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>bar stool. What you want to do is you want

675
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 2>to bend from the hips, and you want to bend

676
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>forward until the club touches the ground. And so now

677
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>what I've done is I've taken my shoulder plane, I've

678
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>taken my hip plane, and I've put I've got a

679
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 2>much better chance of getting the swing on plane. A

680
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of golfers are working on early extension and trying

681
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 2>to fix that. Next from the hips, not tilting into

682
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 2>the correct posture. When the hips don't tilt and they

683
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 2>stay level, they're just going to slide around, and there's

684
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 2>where you're going to end up hitting behind the golf ball.

685
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So the best way to get in the perfect posture

686
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>is again, I'm getting your grip, hanging it out there.

687
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Then get the shaft to be just parallel to the

688
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>ground and standing straight up, and then just bow down,

689
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>bending from the hips until the club touches the ground.

690
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 2>And you'll see how much more over the golf ball

691
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you're going to feel instead of sitting. And if you

692
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>want to know how to do that, just find a wall,

693
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>get to a wall, and then just go ahead and

694
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 2>bend forward. I'm trying to get away from the wall.

695
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So often what happens to golfers is they just sit

696
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 2>down and they put their rear too far back, and

697
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>what ends up pushing all of the mass and the

698
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>swing into a wrong position, which is going to force

699
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>you to stand up, early, extension, all kinds of other things.

700
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's not going to feel great getting into a

701
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>golf posture. It shouldn't feel natural. There's nothing natural about that.

702
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>We're going to work on that until you get that,

703
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and just going forward, you'll feel how much more bent

704
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Now we can hit down and compress the ball instead

705
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of just sitting down. But we just sit Now our

706
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 2>backswing gets too flat heard and now we've got to

707
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>come over the top, and some people are going to

708
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>skip that and they're just going to pick the club

709
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>up and then come back down. All of that came

710
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 2>from the inability to pivot, and that pivot comes from posture.

711
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>And so what we want to do is bend forward

712
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and then walk into the golf ball. And how far

713
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>our arms should be is they should be just hanging

714
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 2>under the shoulder someone. Now they're not going to be

715
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're going to be a little bit here

716
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>or there, just depending on if you've got a driver

717
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>or if you're standing closer to the ball with a wedge.

718
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, they're going to be hanging

719
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>underneath your shoulders. If you have to reach out for

720
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the golf ball, more than likely you're going to yank

721
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the club underneath the plane and come back over the

722
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 2>top as well. So work on your posture and that's

723
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the first step to getting a good swing plane to

724
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>get up on top.

725
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>All right. To wrap this up, I'm curious, can you

726
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 1>explain the JPX drill? It's in your.

727
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Ebook, So that one I'm not going to explain because

728
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that's the big ticket. Okay, that's that is the big ticket.

729
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>So now, Fred, what I've done is I asked myself

730
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>for the next one hundred golf lessons, what are you

731
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<v Speaker 2>going to do with the golfers that come in the door.

732
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>They're going to have a grip, a posture, a backswing,

733
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 2>a down swing, and an impact and so I want

734
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to get those things buttoned up now. To put it

735
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>all together, I have a special drill in there that

736
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I put and allows the golfers to put all of

737
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>the things that I just talked about together, and within

738
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>three swings, I promise you they fix their over the

739
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>top and they learn how to swing from into out.

740
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.199
<v Speaker 2>It's too simple, it's too easy. The book is like

741
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you'll probably if you read it, you'll probably put it down.

742
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 2>But if you take the time and you try it,

743
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>these are the same principles that my kids are hitting with.

744
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 2>So they're not ideas. And unless you can hit better

745
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>than them, we want to try it. And they are

746
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 2>only one thirty to one and wait, you know, under

747
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 2>six feet and hit the ball three hundred yards. So

748
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 2>the point and they're very well, the young and supple,

749
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of course, but I'm not that's not the real reason.

750
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 2>The real reason is physics and science. You know they're

751
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>utilizing taking advantage of all of that. But the extra

752
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in there will be a great way to fix you.

753
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So if you get the book, you're going to I

754
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 2>guarantee to fix your slice.

755
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>A nice way to avoid the question. Well, you know,

756
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I think people may want to check you out. Here again,

757
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it's Joe Park Golf, and he Joe specializes in taking

758
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty handicaps and turning him into scratch golfers.

759
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 1>So that alone is enough to make your interest level

760
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>rise just to touch and he's a fan of Tony Manzoni.

761
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>How bad can that be?

762
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

763
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before you go? So, I got an email from

764
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a listener this morning. He says, can you ask people

765
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>where what their three favorite courses are? And then I'll

766
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>ask the second part of that question, where's your three

767
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 1>favorite courses?

768
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh? You know, Scottsdale is loaded with so many golfs,

769
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>so that is a very it's a trick question. You know,

770
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>some of the courses that I love, you can't really

771
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 2>normally go and play right because they're private, but public courses,

772
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about that. If you come down here, you

773
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>got to play True North. That's probably I'm always on

774
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the bucket list. Yep. And then of course farther down

775
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>from their wikopa is another one one. Have you ever

776
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 2>tried that?

777
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I played it in a pro am before Open. I've

778
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>played we a couple of times. Love that course, yeah

779
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>every time?

780
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So, I mean we're just so blessed with

781
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>so many courses. My favorite private courses obviously are silver

782
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Leaf Is Stancia and Marabell, which are the neighboring courses,

783
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and they're very very you know they maintain them to

784
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>such a level. But yeah, every course in Scottsdale is

785
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 2>like being at a private course. They make sure to

786
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>maintain it as if you were a member for the day.

787
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't matter what course you play in Scottsdale,

788
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be treated right.

789
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's true. Okay, And the second part of

790
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the question is, and I'm gonna make a caveat on this,

791
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 1>you're you're not allowed to answer with your children involved

792
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>in this question. Two of your career highlights.

793
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness. My career high lights, Well, I would say,

794
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, my career highlights was we moved here from Minnesota,

795
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned earlier, and we had a golf facility there.

796
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>So what I got on opportunity to do was to

797
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 2>build an eighteen hole championship pitch and putt golf course. Wow.

798
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And so it was built with bent greens, bunkers, water hazards,

799
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 2>all the holes were under a ninety yards. All you

800
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>needed was a wedge and putter. So I designed that

801
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 2>along with my father in law, and obviously it was

802
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>a family project. But that and then we had the

803
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>driving range and the driving range we were open year round.

804
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 1>In Minnesota.

805
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>In Minnesota. So now here's how I did it. I

806
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>took a plow, raised the front end, and I plowed

807
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 2>the driving range. And it took me forty hours to

808
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>plow our range. It was, you know, like three hundred

809
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and fifty yards long by three hundred yards wide. That's

810
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>like eleven some NFL football fields. So I plowed that

811
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>took me forty hours, so that I could pick the

812
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>balls and we were open in the Winner. So my

813
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>biggest accomplishment is a year round. And then I put

814
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>in a building with infrared heat so that you could

815
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 2>just be in a light sweatshirt and see the full

816
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 2>length of your shot dead winner awesome. And then of

817
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 2>course we built I built the golf course, and so

818
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that to me is probably my biggest highlight. And of

819
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 2>course my boys watching them.

820
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 1>They weren't allowed to be in the answer, that was too.

821
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So my biggest accomplishment is probably building that facility. We

822
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 2>had over three hundred juniors a year in our junior program,

823
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>so we did a really good job of growing the game,

824
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 2>and our golf facility allowed us to really meet great people.

825
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Great people again.

826
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Park's five fundamentals how to make a golf swing

827
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<v Speaker 1>by Joe Park. Thanks so much for your time today

828
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and the lessons UH and the video. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Friends, m HM