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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: This is Dick Fits for us from Lincoln, California, and

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I play at sun City Lincoln Hills golf Course.

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Speaker 1: This is Golf Smarter number one thousand and seven.

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Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for mentioning this because the

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posture is probably the most overlook fundamental. I'm a big

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fan of the swing plane to make your golf swing

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much easier, and how far you stand away from the

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golf ball is going to have a huge effect again

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on the swing plane, and so that's why we're getting

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into a specific posture for the golf swing. We're not

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getting into a posture to get comfortable. We're not getting

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into a posture to have someone tackle us. So there's

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none of this sitting in a bar stool. We're basically

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taking a golf swing that close around our body and

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the balls on the ground. So what we need to

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do is to tilt forward from our hips and make

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the whole swing circle angle down at a forty five

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so now we can go ahead and hit that. So

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the best way to work on your posture is making

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sure that you don't sit like you're in a bar stool.

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What you want to do is you want to bend

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from the hips and you want to bend forward until

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the club touches the ground. And so now what I've

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done is I've taken my shoulder plane. I've taken my

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hip plane, and I've got a much better chance of

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getting the swing on plane.

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Speaker 1: Presenting the five fundamentals on how to make a golf

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swing with instructor Joe Park. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,

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tips and insights from great golf minds to help you

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lower your score and raise your golf IQ. Here's your host,

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Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smurter Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Joe. Well, thanks Fred for having me on your show today.

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I've been a longtime listener of all of your guests

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and have learned quite a bit from everybody. So it's

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a great place to get a lot of golf information

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for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. That's really kind of you. But when

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you say a long time listener, what does that mean?

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How long have you been listening?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're probably well over nine hundred episodes.

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Oh yeah, I guess, yeah, So that's that's a long

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time I've been listening. Oh at least eight nine years.

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It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Did you find it? How did you find golf smart.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm a golf professional, and so one of the

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things that I like to do is to research what's

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going on in the golf world. And of course the

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podcast became very popular, and as they became more popular,

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we got an opportunity to listen to a lot of

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great minds through the interviews, like your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank You, Thank You. Which golf instructors or instructor has

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resonated with you that's been on the show that's kind

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of jumped out and it is like this guy's good.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's no one. If there was one

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guy that kind of stands out and be Tony, I

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think Tony is yah. One of the reasons why is

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he and I kind of share the same beliefs about

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I don't really call it a single pivot or any

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of that. I like to keep golfers a little bit

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more on their left side because it's so difficult to

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try to get to the right side and then to

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go back to the left side. And we're trying to

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do this in all less than a quarter of a second.

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You know, if a golf swing is one second, the

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backswing is three quarters of that, and so the downswing

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is a quarter of a second. So even the best athletes,

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doesn't matter what sport you play, you're going to have

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a difficult time getting from the right side back to

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the left side. And so weightshift has become a big

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you know, depends on what kind of camp you're in.

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I you know, science wise, yes, you need that weight shift.

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If you're going to do long drive contests and you're

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going to be hitting four hundred and fifty yards and

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you want to win, you're going to be using some

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of that mass along with velocity in order to get

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as max distance as you can for one ball. Though

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you know, in golf you need more than one ball

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in play, and the distance you certainly don't need as

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much now on tour and professionals and those guys that

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are playing for living, without a doubt, there's a certain

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distance that they need to hit. And I think amateur

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golfers as a whole, up to like ten ten handicap golfers,

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they don't realize that they don't need to hit it

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as far in order to have a very good game.

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And you know, with things likes Arcos, who has that

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all that information, they got over a billion bits of

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golfers doing things so they know what golfers need to

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improve on and improve in order to lower their handicap.

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a ten handicap, did you know that you only need

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to hit the ball what two hundred yards in the

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fairway and two twenty five in the rough to lose

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zero strokes to all ten handicap golfers. So when you

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think about that and I look at the size of

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the golfers that are on the golf course, I'm like,

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I think he could hit it two hundred and twenty

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five yards with a driver in their hand, probably with

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a three wood in their hand. The problem is when

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you stand there and you put all these extra curricular

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movements mostly to try to get more distance, and then

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you're sacrificing solid contact and other things that is very

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beneficial to get the maximum distance and to keep it

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in play. So when Tony was a big promonent of

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the single pivot, he was really staying more on your

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left side as much as you could so that in

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the back in the downswing, the weight is kind of

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transferred over there and now you don't have to shift

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your weight. And when you think about the golf swing

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and think about it in a circular motion, and you

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have at the very bottom of the circle, we have

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a low point and that's the bottom of the swing art,

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and so we need to move that bottom of that

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swing art in front of the golf ball. And so

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when we start moving to the right and left, we're

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constantly moving that swing art and don't even realize what

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we're doing. We're moving our swing the whole time. So

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it's much easier to just stay stationary feeling wise where

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you've got. You know, when you said sixty forty to

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stay on that side, and then eventually at the top

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of the golf swing you even felt a little bit

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more on that side. Now some people would say, oh

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my gosh, that's crazy, because you know, it doesn't make

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a lot of sense, but scientifically it does make sense

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when you think of the circle right and you're making

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the golf swing, and let's go back to like the

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first position in the backswing where the shaft is kind

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of parallel to the ground, and that part is going

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to be the farthest, outermost part of the circle. And

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then from there the circle starts to come back towards

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the target. So when we stand at the tarp. Yeah,

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so we stand there after that position, the club is

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already starting to go towards the target. And so as

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the club is going towards the target, the best golfers

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we know now with technology there are already have started

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their downsliding before the backswing finishes. And now you can

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I can explain it to you just from the circle

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that after P two or you know, shaft parallel, it's

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starting to go back up and it's going in and

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it's going towards the target. So it's staying on plane,

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but it's also moving and so some of that is

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going to move you and shift you. And there's where

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you get the seventy where seventy more, you know, instead

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of sixty forty, Now you go seventy and you feel

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more of that on that left side. And now all

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you have to do is focus on hitting down and

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compressing that ball because you've already you know, in a sense,

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shifted your weight. Now you can delay that longer for

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of course, if you're trying to hit the ball farther,

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but as I mentioned, it's unnecessary for a lot of golfers.

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You can play a lot of very good golf just

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staying on your left side or feeling like. And that's

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the other thing, yeah, because you know when we're moving

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it off to the right, and you know, it's just

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for that split second and then everything comes back to

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the other side. And the reason why is our brain

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is getting ready for a lot of our intentions that

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we're trying to do. So for example, when you're like

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getting ready to really hit a long ball and you

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wind up and you get ready, your muscles are and

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your brain's getting ready to put the brakes on and

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stop your golf swing and get ready for that. And

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also usually shortens up the swing when people are trying

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to hit it farther unless they're really loose and they

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don't realize that. So our brains are reacting to what

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we want to do. All we want to do is

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really understand, you know, obviously the ball flight laws and

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some of the swing mechanics so that we can repeat

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the shot over and over again and staying on our

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left side feeling like, because you will shift a little bit.

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And if we talk about shifting, you know, we know

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now with gears and three you know, a lot of

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high tech equipment, the amount of shift off to the

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right is about the size of a golf ball. So

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but so even if we did right, let's say that

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we did, that's how much Rory is moving off the ball. Okay, So,

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and he's hitting it a long ways and he's winding

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up and the rest of us don't need that. We

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can play a lot of very good golf by first

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starting to hit the ball more solid, and by hitting

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the ball more solid and hitting down on the golf ball,

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you know, not hanging back and scooping up on it

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and getting under it and adding too much law. So

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there's just way more benefits to staying on your left

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side than there is to getting onto your right side.

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And if you think about, you know about weight shift

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and legs, you know, I'm not going to say that

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they're not a part of it. It's just they get

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too much of the of the you know, publicity. When

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we know that you can hit balls off your knees

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quite a way. You know, we've seen tiger woods to

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long drive people hit the ball a long waist. About

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seventy five percent of your clubhead speed is going to

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come from your hands, wrists and forearms. And so if

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you get too much of that body involved, and you know,

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and think that the arms come along for the ride,

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you got another thing coming. If you want to increase

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your clubhead speed, you know, the simplest way when somebody

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says I want to get faster clubhead speed, you know

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you got to think about you. You're holding the club

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with your hands, and so in order to get that

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to go faster, you got to move your hand faster,

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and to move the hands faster, your arms and then

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your upper body. So you really got to get those

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upper body parts moving and then the lower body helps

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adjust the rest of that and you know, transports the

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package into the delivery, so it allows your arms and

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hands to do some work too. Everybody plays a role,

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so we just have to understand who plays what role,

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and the body plays a role, but we've got to

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get the arms and hands to play a little more,

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and I think that helps when we stay more on

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our left side.

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Speaker 1: As an instructor, you probably hear the same thing that

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probably every instructor hears, at least the ones that I've

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spoken to, that the first thing that people ask for

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is consistency. Second thing is more distance or is it

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the other way around? Do they want more distance and

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then they want more distancy.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, So when you.

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Speaker 1: Talk about faster club head speed, that equates to greater distance.

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But people get lost in the fact that the a

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new piece of gear, a new ball, is what is

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going to equate to greater distance maybe three yards, you know,

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if you're going to be literal about it, and what

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they should be asking for is less dispersion, right and

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consistently getting the ball in the fairway. And if you

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want a lower score is just get the ball in

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the fairway. But to get greater distance, you really do

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need to work on your body to get that faster

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club head speed, don't you. You need to increase your

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muscle mass somewhat, your body mobility or flexibility.

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Speaker 2: I you know, there's no question that, like I said earlier,

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the body plays a very big role, but the arms

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and hands play a very big role as well. And

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if the body gets out in front, that's going to

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affect our swing plane and lock the arms and hands

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from doing their job. And they've got to be moving.

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So the best way that I could explain it to you,

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if we think about just thinking circles. You know, the

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golf swing is a circle. Let's think of the club

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head as being a big circle. And then let's think

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of your hips as a circle. Now that's smaller, and

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then your shoulders, you know, that's the next size. And

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so when we come back down on our downswing, all

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the circles, which circle has the most to travel and

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that would be the club head and so they need

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to get going. But you'll never see this on video.

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the golfer, the golf swing's already going towards the target,

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towards the top. So a lot of times when we

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see a video face on, we'll see the golfer, you know,

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start the down swing from the lower body and then

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working their way all the way up. What we're not

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seeing in that from a science or engineering standpoint is

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the acceleration rates. So how much faster does the clubhead

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have to move in order to catch up with you know,

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the hips and the body as they turn. You know,

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the body the hips are turning what forty five, you know,

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forty five degrees, the shoulders ninety a little bit more

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if you can, and then you know, the club head

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is going to how much farther. So it's an unfair

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race when we start the downswing that we start with

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the lower body. We start with the you know, turning

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and spinning that's going to get our hands to come

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out to end. For the high handicap golfers and for

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the better golfers, what they do is get stuck. And

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so what happens is they get trapped as they start

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too early with the lower body. So what you want

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to do is get those arms and hands to move

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as quickly as possible and the rest of the body

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will catch you up. It's like running. When you want

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to run faster, you move your arms faster, and then

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also your legs are moving faster too, and you don't

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even realize it. So by moving your arms and hands faster,

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it picks up the speed of the rest of your

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body to turn. So we got to look at it,

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you know, take a step back, look at it from

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an engineering and science of how it all happens, and

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then come back and then you can tell me what

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you like and what you don't like. But you know,

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we have to stay with the golf swing with physics

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and geometry, you know, physics is what's powering the swing,

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and geometry is the shape of the swing, and so

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how we stand to the ball and how we make

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our swing plane is going to have a huge effect

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on the clubhead speed. Way more over, I got to

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spin my hips, or I got to turn my body,

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or that I got to be in the gym. Okay.

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and he was hitting the ball long ways, and he

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didn't feel like he needed to work on doing much.

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He could always do it in a presentation, and he's

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absolutely right. So a lot of this, I understand, is

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my talk. But my children who I'm training, they are

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professional golfers today. So if you go on if you

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go on my Instagram, and you'll see the pictures and

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the videos of them demonstrating some of my fundamentals that

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you know that I've taught them over the years. You know,

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they're going to be going to Q school this fall,

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and so both of them, yes, and so we're grad

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thank you, but you know, we still have to get

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through that.

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Speaker 1: So that's all the fact that they're even scheduled to

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go is pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of the stuff that I'm talking to

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you about are the stuff that I instilled to my

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boys as well as other professionals that I've worked with

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over the years. I also worked with one gentleman, I

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worked with one other junior kid who I ended up

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with a scholarship in Florida. So I've worked at the

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highest level of swings at a very fast speed. So

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the things that I'm telling you, it's not just for

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some senior golfer or some high handicap golfer. This is

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for at the highest level. You know. This is for

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when I'm with with my sons at a golf tournament.

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You know, we got you know, five ten thousand dollars

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invested in the tournament. We can't miss this cut. And

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so there's no you can't be doing a lot of

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swing thoughts and a lot of ideas. You're going to

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pack your bags and go. And we've been at this

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for over twenty years. Trust me when I tell you

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a lot of the stuff that we're talking about is

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real world scenarios of what you really can do on

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the golf course, even at the highest level. And so

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my kids are the perfect example. It's like a lot

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of teachers can talk concepts and ideas and maybe have

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somebody that they work with and that they've taught. But here,

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I've worked with my boys from you know, they started

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golfing at four and all the way up to now.

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So I've seen the swinging progress. I've watched it at

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the highest level, and so I know what's going to

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be the simplest way. And what I just have explained

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is what I just basically taught to boys. And if

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they can do it, being what they only weigh like

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one hundred and thirty hundred and forty pounds and they

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can hit the ball three hundred yards. So if they

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can do that, I know anybody listening can do what

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the fundamentals that we're about to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you a golf instructor before you became a father.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I've been a golf teaching profra thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I started my career thirty years ago, you know, playing

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the Mini Tours down in Florida, and I had an

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opportunity to work with, you know, great coaches like Mike Bender.

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I don't know if you're familiar with who he is.

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He's one of the top five coaches. You know, he's

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been for a long time and a big student, yeah,

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a big student of the you know, the Maclgrady and

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the Morod system, the golfing machine stack until so all

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of that, Yeah, all of that was a very big

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part of all of our teaching. So it doesn't matter

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if you're a teacher today, all of that had an

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effect on your teaching. You know, one nugget here or there.

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We're all sharing that example in order to find the

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big picture, which is to make the golf swing simpler

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and not have more ideas and more confusing concepts. So

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what I did is I just narrowed down basically the

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five on them that I have worked on with my sons.

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And these are the same fundamentals that I do in

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every one of my golf lessons. So it doesn't matter

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who comes in. These five fundamentals that we're talking about

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is grip, posture, backswing, down swing, and impact. And it

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doesn't matter what concept or belief you have, You're going

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to have to have all of these five fundamentals in

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every golf swing. And so I've just what I've done

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is I've created a little ebook to show you how

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to just hold the club, how to take the back

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swing just a simpler way, and hopefully I can explain

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that to you today in a simple way so that

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your listeners can have something to work on.

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Speaker 1: When you talked about that downswing a few minutes ago,

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and you were talking about getting a faster downswing, right,

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the issue that I seem to have and I see

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it all the time and you probably do as well,

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is that people think that if they want to get

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faster on the downswing, they got to swing harder. Now

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is there a difference there between faster and harder, because

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with harder, again my observation, with swinging it harder, you're

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increasing the tension in your arms and your shoulders, in

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your body, and the I guess the ultimate goal is

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to be tension free throughout your swing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the tension stuff is kind of it's

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there's no question it's important, but the amount of tension

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is more reactionary. So like when somebody is going to

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go down intentionally to go faster, the the you know,

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the muscles are going to adapt to what you're trying

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to do. So the key is is your intention to

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swing it faster with your arms or is it to

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keep your arms up and spin your hips faster, so

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that you know, so it's not really how hard am

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I holding it? It's dow I the lee that swinging

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my arms faster will get me more clubhead speed and

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the amount of tension will naturally, you know, happen.

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Speaker 1: So your book is called Your Ebook is by Joe

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Park and joeparkgolf dot Com is Joe Park's five Fundamentals

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on how to make a golf swing. And it's it's

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pretty basic. It's it's not only great for beginners, it's

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also a great reminder for all of us coming out

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of you know, a wet, wintry, cold winter when we're

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not playing as much, our bodies are kind of falling

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out of golf shape. This is great reminders for everyone

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to have. And it's not long. It's it's actually I

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did it in three nights. I mean it's pretty that's

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pretty fast for me. And you go chapter one the

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grip to stance and postures, so you know what you

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talked about, your five fundamentals grip, posture, backswing, down, swinging

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the follow through. How does your book, your Ebook differ

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from Ben Hogan's Five Fundamentals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, first of all, Ben Hogan's book is a

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wonderful book. I'm a big fan, as everybody is. I

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think there what can happen with that book is it

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can get misinterpreted, just like a lot of things in life.

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And so we have to remember Ben said right away

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that this is the way that he played golf and

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it and he did try to help, you know, he

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was an instructor. He did help on his off times.

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It said that he did give golf instructions. So he

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suffered with having all of these high handicaps coming to him,

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so he knows what they're suffering as well. Now, the

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book itself in general is a great book with all

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the fundamentals. The difference is that he had a problem

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hooking the ball. And so if you go to ball

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flight laws, we understand that you know, the face and

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the club path have a huge influence as well as

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the clubhead speed obviously, but have a huge influence on

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the direction of your ball flights. And Hogan was a

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hooker of the golf ball, and so what that meant

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is that he hooked it to the left alive, and

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so he needed a way to make sure that, according

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to ball flight laws, that the face wasn't close to

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his swing or to his swing path. And so he

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says it in I think in page thirty two, I

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weakened my grip to the left because I have a

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hooking problem. And unless you have that problem, you know,

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that's he forgot to say, unless you have that problem,

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don't do this. But he said I had a problem hooking,

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so I turned it to the left. I made two changes,

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and he says that in there. So it's not for

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somebody to find that and see that red alarm. But

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that's what he did in order to fix his hook.

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Aside from that, uh, and then his downswing, he worked

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on really starting his lower body to start the downswing.

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And so if you think about somebody, somebody that hooks

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the ball for a better golfer, I talked about the downswing.

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When they start with the lower body, they can get stuck. Okay,

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so they can get underneath. Now he didn't get stuck,

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but what that does for him is it opened the

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face up a little bit more and it delayed it.

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So between that move and that it kind of helped

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him hit a straighter ball.

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Speaker 1: Can you define stuck.

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Speaker 2: Stuck meaning so stuck.

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Speaker 1: He didn't stop the swing right?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, So what we're talking about is that

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when we're talking the downswing, you know, we set up

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at a dress and we're hopefully in a good position

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at a dress and at the top of the golf sling,

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we're in a good position up there where the left

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arm is just covering the right shoulder. When the downslign begins,

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a lot of high handicapped golfers, what will happen is

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they'll come out to end like that and come across

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the ball, okay. And what happens from that is because

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maybe they start with the lower body starting to spin

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the hips or their upper body and keeping the arms up,

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and that forces it to come come down out to end,

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and they don't realize that they're actually making that happen.

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they're not gonna do that. What they're gonna do is

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they're gonna spin, and their hits are gonna clear, and

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the right elbow is gonna get stuck right here between

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the right elbow, and so you can see how much

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flatter the swing plane gets. Okay, and so from this

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position you either have you're gonna end up having to

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roll it and hit a big hook shot or hold

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the shot and what they call a block out to

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the right. Okay, So it's not advisable for the high

480
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,039
handicap or the better golfer. Okay, thet either way. From here,

481
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:18,039
you want to try to get your arms and hands

482
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,200
to come right back down, back down the plane that

483
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,559
you went back up on when you set up at

484
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,039
a dress here and hopefully when you set up at

485
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:31,160
a dress that the shaft is sitting in the in

486
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,160
the right angle, which should be about forty five degrees

487
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,599
to the ground. So if your posture is up like this,

488
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,119
or if you stand too far away from the ball,

489
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,839
that's going to affect your swing plane. That's going to

490
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,119
affect then the way that you come back down. So

491
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,200
the simplest way to work on your down swing is,

492
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,079
first of all, get a better grip. Okay. So in

493
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,160
what I do is I just have people hang their

494
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,920
left arm just by their left side. And when young

495
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,720
the left arm just by the left side, you'll see

496
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,920
that the thumb wants to curl in more to the right.

497
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000
The thumb does not want to go down the middle.

498
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,119
If you relax it, and if you then take your

499
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,839
grip from that position, it'll allow your wrist to hinge

500
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:17,480
and it'll allow your face to be in the proper

501
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:20,599
position up at the top. And so the most common

502
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,400
grip that comes in in my lessons is the thumb

503
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,559
right down the middle, which you know Hogan did, because

504
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,319
that allows a face to be open. But it's not

505
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,400
very good for the high handicap. They're coming out to

506
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,279
the end with an open club face. And a lot

507
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,839
of times that can be fixed just by getting the

508
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,960
grip in what I call a closed face grip instead

509
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,119
of an open face grip. Just to have it let

510
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,559
your left arm hang and it'll go just to the

511
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,599
right side, and then you'll see a couple of knuckles

512
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:53,279
on your left side and the upside down b will

513
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,160
point to your right shoulder. Now some people will call

514
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400
this a strong grip. I call this a natural grip

515
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,880
because this is how your joints want to line if

516
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920
you put it down the if you just put it

517
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240
in the middle, it'll want to go right like that

518
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,039
and that'll open the face. And so now you've got

519
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,319
all this extra work. So the simplest thing is to

520
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,400
just start with a grip that'll get the club pace

521
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,799
to come back more square and all of us can

522
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000
do this by just hanging the left arm by your

523
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,880
left side. Anybody I've done this, you know for a

524
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
long time as a teacher. There's nobody that's come to

525
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,759
me down the middle. If anybody's down the middle because

526
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:35,319
they're hooking the ball, they're a plus handicap and their

527
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:38,920
problem isn't coming over the top and slicing. Okay, that's

528
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,359
a different whole issue, which which we can address too.

529
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,559
But I'm talking the ninety percent of golfers who come

530
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400
over the top hit fat and thin shots. If you

531
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,240
could get a better grip, and Tony's idea of staying

532
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,799
more as well as mine, I say stay more on

533
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,000
your left side. Those two simple things is going to

534
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,160
get the face more where your weight transferred. And it's

535
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,480
already simplified the golf swing. So getting the grip in

536
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,039
the right position with the left hand just letting it hang,

537
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,920
and then your right hand, you want to make sure

538
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,440
that it gets just behind the shaft to slightly under it,

539
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,319
and you want it more in the fingers. Okay. So

540
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,599
often I see the grip where it's in the palm

541
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:24,039
of the hand, and the reason they have in the

542
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:26,720
palm is it feels more comfortable, it feels like you

543
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:30,240
got really like, you know, you could really club somebody

544
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,400
with that. But I always say, listen, if you held

545
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
a baseball in the palm of your hand, how far

546
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:38,319
could you throw that versus if you had it in

547
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,440
the fingers. So if you want to get a lot

548
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,119
of clubheadspeed, just start with the right hand, making sure

549
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:47,640
that it's more in the fingers, a little bit more

550
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,319
behind the shaft. It will feel like you can't hold

551
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,039
the club, and that's because those little muscles need to

552
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,240
be trained as well as they need to be strengthened.

553
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,279
But the minute that you hit the ball, you don't

554
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,440
believe how much more clubhead speed that you're going to

555
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,799
get because you can't throw it as fast in the

556
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,359
palm as in the fingers. So then the right hand,

557
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,119
you want to make sure that it's in the fingers

558
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,160
and don't put that thumb down the middle again, that

559
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,119
thumb goes to the left side, and that's going to

560
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,559
help you with impact and triggerers and all kinds of

561
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:22,440
other good things. But that also helps you up at

562
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640
the top of the golf swing, support the club in

563
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,720
the right position. That thumb being down the middle I

564
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:31,640
find has just hurt so many golf swing and forces

565
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,759
the golf swing to come over the top as well.

566
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:36,880
So just a simple lesson of the left hand in

567
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,920
the right hand will allow the club to do the

568
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,039
things that it needs to do and the hands to

569
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,839
do what it needs to do. And then of course,

570
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,039
after we have a good grip, we have to get

571
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:49,160
into the right posture.

572
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Well, this is not something I usually do with this podcast,

573
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
but I need to this last section that we've just

574
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:01,759
done with Joe. He's been standing up with a club

575
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,680
in his hand, describing all this in full detail. I'm

576
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
gonna go ahead and take this segment and put this

577
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,359
on YouTube so YouTube can see it as well, and

578
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:20,960
we'll be back right after this. Now, getting back to

579
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,160
the grip, Joe for just a second, you had this

580
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,119
great drill in here that I've never heard of before

581
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,200
called hot dog in a bun. And you also provided

582
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,400
a secret tip with the right hand. If you didn't

583
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,759
cover those already, please share that with us.

584
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when your thumb is on the right side

585
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:43,240
and you've got your grip, just think of that as

586
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,359
like the hot dog, and when you put your right

587
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,319
hand it just covered your right palm. After you have

588
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,000
it in the fingers, you just cover that up with

589
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,119
the palm of the right hand, and so then that

590
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,119
would be the bun. And so this is what I

591
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,839
get for the junior kids when we do our programs,

592
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,920
we say hot dog and a bun, and they never

593
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,039
forget to cover that thumb up with that right hand,

594
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,400
which is going to be very big in the golf

595
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,599
swing as we make our transition and so forth.

596
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: What's the downside? People I've seen just have a regular

597
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:18,519
like baseball bat grip where their hands are you know,

598
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,079
there's no overlapping at all. What are they uh, what's

599
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,880
the detriment to doing it that way? What are they

600
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,599
losing out on?

601
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm a big I'm a big fan of the baseball grip.

602
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,920
It's just you have to you have to hold it properly.

603
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,359
In baseball. The baseball grip basically is all ten fingers

604
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,799
on the on the club. It's just not interlocking or overlapping.

605
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,319
But you can have all ten fingers on the club.

606
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,519
You just got to make sure that it's in the

607
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:47,240
fingers and you can see I can still cover up

608
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,480
my left thumb. And so as far as the baseball

609
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,839
grip is concerned. I do this. I do this with

610
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,880
a lot of my juniors and a lot of ladies.

611
00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:59,680
And the reason why is in the golf swing, when

612
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,079
we take the back swing, we want to get this

613
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,319
club to stay on plane. And in order to stay

614
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,440
on plane, it's a very heavy club. And so the

615
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,199
more that you can get your right hand on the club,

616
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:15,920
the better control you have to take this club up

617
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,559
and in get it on a better swing plane. And

618
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,079
so I don't mind that. As matter of fact, I

619
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:27,599
did you know that I mentioned earlier about one of

620
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,559
my students. He's off playing college with a ten finger grip.

621
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,039
So it does work. It just it's not very popular

622
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,800
with a lot of people, but I love it for

623
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,320
golfers to start high handicap golfers. It gets you better

624
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,440
control of the right arm. And that is so important

625
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,679
in the golf swing is the right arm, and the

626
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,800
right arm controls the whole swing plane as you take

627
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,760
it back and fold. The swing plane needs to be

628
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480
going back, it needs to be going up, and it

629
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,760
needs to be going in, and your right arm is

630
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,599
the magic of the right arm is taking it back

631
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:05,119
up and in just by folding your right arm, and

632
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,519
when you're folding your right arm, you can get on

633
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,119
the perfect swingplane. And then on the downswing you just

634
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,440
go ahead and unfold your arm, and that's what provides

635
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,880
that downswing. Now, what happens is if you start an

636
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,519
unwined too quickly, you can unfold. And if you're not unfolding,

637
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,559
that's like I can't unwine my throat. And that's why

638
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,840
you want to go ahead and just think about folding

639
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,000
it up there and unfolding and getting those arms and

640
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,639
hands to come back down and out towards the ball,

641
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
and that's how you'll get your increased club headspe But

642
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,639
the ten finger grip works and it's great for a

643
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,599
lot of beginners. So I'm a big fan of it.

644
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:51,159
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome. So in chapter two, I'm not going to

645
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,800
go through all five chapters, no problem. No, we want

646
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,119
everyone to go ahead and get it for themselves, the

647
00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:01,920
ebook for themselves. But posture and stand and posture I

648
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,280
find there. You know, I've seen a lot of people

649
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,559
who may have the correct posture, and a lot of

650
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,320
people don't. They kind of hunch over more, but they're

651
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,800
also really far from the ball. They're really stretching their

652
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,920
hands out and they're probably losing a lot when doing that.

653
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,639
Can you explain what happens if you are too far

654
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,760
from the ball or even too close, what's the impact.

655
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: On those I can't thank you enough for mentioning this,

656
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719
because the posture is probably the most after the grip,

657
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,400
probably the most overlooked fundamental. It is going to make

658
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,360
or break your golf sling, and how far you stand

659
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719
away from the golf ball or how close you are

660
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,079
is going to have a huge effect. Again on the

661
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,719
swing plane. I'm a big fan of the swing plane

662
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,119
to make your golf sling much easier. And so that's

663
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:54,679
why we're getting into a specific posture for the golf sling.

664
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,239
We're not getting into a posture to get comfortable. We're

665
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,800
not getting into a posture to have some and tackle us.

666
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,639
So there's none of this sitting in a bar stool.

667
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,239
We're basically taking a golf swing that close around our

668
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,480
body and the balls on the ground. So what we

669
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,480
need to do is to tilt forward from our hips

670
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,199
and make the whole swing circle angle down at a

671
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,840
forty five so now we can go ahead and hit that.

672
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,039
So the best way to work on your posture is

673
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:26,679
making sure that you don't sit like you're in a

674
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880
bar stool. What you want to do is you want

675
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,639
to bend from the hips, and you want to bend

676
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,840
forward until the club touches the ground. And so now

677
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
what I've done is I've taken my shoulder plane, I've

678
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,400
taken my hip plane, and I've put I've got a

679
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:45,039
much better chance of getting the swing on plane. A

680
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,719
lot of golfers are working on early extension and trying

681
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,519
to fix that. Next from the hips, not tilting into

682
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,199
the correct posture. When the hips don't tilt and they

683
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,519
stay level, they're just going to slide around, and there's

684
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,079
where you're going to end up hitting behind the golf ball.

685
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:03,800
So the best way to get in the perfect posture

686
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,519
is again, I'm getting your grip, hanging it out there.

687
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,440
Then get the shaft to be just parallel to the

688
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,880
ground and standing straight up, and then just bow down,

689
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,360
bending from the hips until the club touches the ground.

690
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,159
And you'll see how much more over the golf ball

691
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,280
you're going to feel instead of sitting. And if you

692
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,880
want to know how to do that, just find a wall,

693
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,360
get to a wall, and then just go ahead and

694
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,119
bend forward. I'm trying to get away from the wall.

695
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,760
So often what happens to golfers is they just sit

696
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,199
down and they put their rear too far back, and

697
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,559
what ends up pushing all of the mass and the

698
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,639
swing into a wrong position, which is going to force

699
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,119
you to stand up, early, extension, all kinds of other things.

700
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,239
So it's not going to feel great getting into a

701
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,239
golf posture. It shouldn't feel natural. There's nothing natural about that.

702
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,840
We're going to work on that until you get that,

703
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,039
and just going forward, you'll feel how much more bent

704
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,559
Now we can hit down and compress the ball instead

705
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,519
of just sitting down. But we just sit Now our

706
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:14,559
backswing gets too flat heard and now we've got to

707
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:16,800
come over the top, and some people are going to

708
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,719
skip that and they're just going to pick the club

709
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960
up and then come back down. All of that came

710
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:27,039
from the inability to pivot, and that pivot comes from posture.

711
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,880
And so what we want to do is bend forward

712
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,760
and then walk into the golf ball. And how far

713
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,119
our arms should be is they should be just hanging

714
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,880
under the shoulder someone. Now they're not going to be

715
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,679
you know, they're going to be a little bit here

716
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,840
or there, just depending on if you've got a driver

717
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,440
or if you're standing closer to the ball with a wedge.

718
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
But for the most part, they're going to be hanging

719
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,920
underneath your shoulders. If you have to reach out for

720
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the golf ball, more than likely you're going to yank

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the club underneath the plane and come back over the

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top as well. So work on your posture and that's

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the first step to getting a good swing plane to

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get up on top.

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Speaker 1: All right. To wrap this up, I'm curious, can you

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explain the JPX drill? It's in your.

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Speaker 2: Ebook, So that one I'm not going to explain because

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that's the big ticket. Okay, that's that is the big ticket.

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So now, Fred, what I've done is I asked myself

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for the next one hundred golf lessons, what are you

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going to do with the golfers that come in the door.

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They're going to have a grip, a posture, a backswing,

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a down swing, and an impact and so I want

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to get those things buttoned up now. To put it

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all together, I have a special drill in there that

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I put and allows the golfers to put all of

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the things that I just talked about together, and within

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three swings, I promise you they fix their over the

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top and they learn how to swing from into out.

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It's too simple, it's too easy. The book is like

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you'll probably if you read it, you'll probably put it down.

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But if you take the time and you try it,

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these are the same principles that my kids are hitting with.

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So they're not ideas. And unless you can hit better

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than them, we want to try it. And they are

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only one thirty to one and wait, you know, under

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six feet and hit the ball three hundred yards. So

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the point and they're very well, the young and supple,

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of course, but I'm not that's not the real reason.

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The real reason is physics and science. You know they're

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utilizing taking advantage of all of that. But the extra

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in there will be a great way to fix you.

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So if you get the book, you're going to I

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guarantee to fix your slice.

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Speaker 1: A nice way to avoid the question. Well, you know,

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I think people may want to check you out. Here again,

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it's Joe Park Golf, and he Joe specializes in taking

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fifteen to twenty handicaps and turning him into scratch golfers.

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So that alone is enough to make your interest level

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rise just to touch and he's a fan of Tony Manzoni.

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How bad can that be?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before you go? So, I got an email from

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a listener this morning. He says, can you ask people

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where what their three favorite courses are? And then I'll

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ask the second part of that question, where's your three

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favorite courses?

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Speaker 2: Oh? You know, Scottsdale is loaded with so many golfs,

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so that is a very it's a trick question. You know,

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some of the courses that I love, you can't really

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normally go and play right because they're private, but public courses,

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let's talk about that. If you come down here, you

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got to play True North. That's probably I'm always on

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the bucket list. Yep. And then of course farther down

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from their wikopa is another one one. Have you ever

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tried that?

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Speaker 1: I played it in a pro am before Open. I've

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played we a couple of times. Love that course, yeah

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every time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So, I mean we're just so blessed with

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so many courses. My favorite private courses obviously are silver

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Leaf Is Stancia and Marabell, which are the neighboring courses,

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and they're very very you know they maintain them to

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such a level. But yeah, every course in Scottsdale is

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like being at a private course. They make sure to

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maintain it as if you were a member for the day.

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So it doesn't matter what course you play in Scottsdale,

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you're going to be treated right.

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Okay, And the second part of

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the question is, and I'm gonna make a caveat on this,

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you're you're not allowed to answer with your children involved

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in this question. Two of your career highlights.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. My career high lights, Well, I would say,

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you know, my career highlights was we moved here from Minnesota,

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as I mentioned earlier, and we had a golf facility there.

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So what I got on opportunity to do was to

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build an eighteen hole championship pitch and putt golf course. Wow.

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And so it was built with bent greens, bunkers, water hazards,

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all the holes were under a ninety yards. All you

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needed was a wedge and putter. So I designed that

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along with my father in law, and obviously it was

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a family project. But that and then we had the

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driving range and the driving range we were open year round.

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Speaker 1: In Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: In Minnesota. So now here's how I did it. I

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took a plow, raised the front end, and I plowed

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the driving range. And it took me forty hours to

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plow our range. It was, you know, like three hundred

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and fifty yards long by three hundred yards wide. That's

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like eleven some NFL football fields. So I plowed that

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took me forty hours, so that I could pick the

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balls and we were open in the Winner. So my

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biggest accomplishment is a year round. And then I put

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in a building with infrared heat so that you could

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just be in a light sweatshirt and see the full

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length of your shot dead winner awesome. And then of

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course we built I built the golf course, and so

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that to me is probably my biggest highlight. And of

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course my boys watching them.

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Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to be in the answer, that was too.

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Speaker 2: So my biggest accomplishment is probably building that facility. We

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had over three hundred juniors a year in our junior program,

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so we did a really good job of growing the game,

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and our golf facility allowed us to really meet great people.

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Great people again.

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Speaker 1: Joe Park's five fundamentals how to make a golf swing

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by Joe Park. Thanks so much for your time today

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and the lessons UH and the video. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Friends, m HM