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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Why and the Ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with

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<v Speaker 2>me today is going to be Blake Eager and we

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<v Speaker 2>got Henry at the controls. How you doing, Henry? Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Good good good? Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you go to the door and grab and grab

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<v Speaker 2>our guy, Blake, he's here now. Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Friday, the last show of the week. What a

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<v Speaker 2>game last night, right, What a fantastic game and how

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<v Speaker 2>they played, how hard they played. I don't think there

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<v Speaker 2>are very many disappointed people out there, you know, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about last night, but there could be. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>had they been blown out, had been different. But they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get blown out, and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, inspiration on that team, and a post

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<v Speaker 2>game they had a lot of very kind words about

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb and in the year and how cool it was,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the right word. Cool. Blake, how were you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me so I had to run up

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs. That's fine. You get a little exercise here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I need it?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think about the game last night?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I'm sad today, and that sad because I'm frustrated

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<v Speaker 4>because we lost, but kind of what you just hit on,

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<v Speaker 4>I think watching it's sad because it's the last time

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to see that team play.

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<v Speaker 2>Together, right, yeah, right?

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<v Speaker 4>And they worked their tails off this year to get

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<v Speaker 4>to the point where they were, and yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I love watching them play. I love the grit and

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<v Speaker 4>it's I never say there's a good win or a

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<v Speaker 4>good loss, right, but it was impressive what they were

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<v Speaker 4>able to do last night.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about Henry off the air and we

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<v Speaker 2>could talk about it again, Henry that had they been

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<v Speaker 2>blown out by twenty twenty five, and that's what it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like it was gonna cap, you know, like it

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<v Speaker 2>was going. And then they made that rally, which was

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<v Speaker 2>very got cut it to five. I think, great, they

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<v Speaker 2>did cut it to five and you're thinking, God, they

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to pull this off with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes left, and you think, God, this team has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot inside of it because they didn't really get

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<v Speaker 2>blown out this year, maybe twice, if not even blowouts.

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<v Speaker 2>He just didn't play well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when iwa State game right, which was a

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<v Speaker 4>revenge game, but it's still I mean, they were able

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<v Speaker 4>to keep it somewhat close in that second.

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<v Speaker 2>Half, so maybe two three games, yeah, but last night

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<v Speaker 2>was just you know, holy crap, they might be able

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<v Speaker 2>to pull this off, and they played fairly well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, listen, you're down nineteen I think at one point, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And the one thing I was thinking about all day

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<v Speaker 4>to day when we were texting was I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>there's a better way for Caleb Love to go out right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean exactly right, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's going to go down as one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>performances as a Wildcap because when you were down, we

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<v Speaker 4>were down nineteen. Uve was down, sorry, Uve was down nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>He scored seventeen points. I was fifteen fifteen sorry, fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>points straight straight. I mean, it's unbelievable what he was

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<v Speaker 4>able to do. And he willed that team back into

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<v Speaker 4>that game and we had a chance. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we can pinpoint different situations in different circumstances. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you don't agree with me. Duke is Duke

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<v Speaker 4>is more talented than we were, no question, Yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 4>But the heart that that that you've eighteen showed was

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<v Speaker 4>it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>More talented and they had a better go to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because let me tell you if I'm if i'm their

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<v Speaker 2>coach of shi or whatever I'm saying, when you're down

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<v Speaker 2>on our side on the offensive side, give the ball

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<v Speaker 2>to Yeah, it has to run through it. Give it

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<v Speaker 2>to him. If he decides to shoot, we're okay with it.

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<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't, we're okay with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When's the I mean, we were talking about this last

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<v Speaker 4>night in our one of our group chats. When who's

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<v Speaker 4>the last college basketball player that you've seen that's that

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<v Speaker 4>good not just talented on the offensive side, but defensively, passing, dribbling.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I Mean, names are like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant were thrown out. Yeah, okay, but did they

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<v Speaker 2>see him or you guys must have been young when

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<v Speaker 2>they Yeah. Yeah, God, there's so many good guys, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that that comes to mind, but I saw

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<v Speaker 2>him just go off on Arizona stroll myle Swift and

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<v Speaker 2>he says he was just so good in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>athletically talented, Right, But not like this basketball guy, this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't see Larry Bird because I was in

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine. I was like fifteen the time. The probably

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<v Speaker 2>your friends saw Yeah, Drec and Larry Bird was fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael and Michael magic conson And this is when you're impressionable,

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<v Speaker 2>right fifteen, You're thinking, God, I want to beat these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say, although you know, Jimmer for Debt

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty damn good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but not defensively, No, no, no, no, are just I

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<v Speaker 4>mean Flag had and I know they talked about it

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the whole game, right, but Flag has the ability

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<v Speaker 4>to turn the game around on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's kind of savvy. It's a savvy of knowing

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<v Speaker 2>the right decisions to make. And you know that block

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<v Speaker 2>that he had just came out of nowhere and YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, Caleb matched him, if not more,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know Caleb them and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you kept them. Both guys kept to each team in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I did think and I hate to bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up because I don't do this. I don't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I may have done this one time this year, for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in forever. The refs were were were

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<v Speaker 2>what they were right. But it's not just one person

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that it's nationally they're thinking of this.

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<v Speaker 4>When you have every analysis or analyst at the same

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<v Speaker 4>time saying the same thing and it's not the call

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<v Speaker 4>that's being called on the floor, right, there's a I

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<v Speaker 4>think there's an inherent problem there, especially when you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about that flagrant call right that just happened with Bradley.

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<v Speaker 4>It was exactly, in my mind, the same situation and

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<v Speaker 4>in time in the game that could have turned in

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<v Speaker 4>our favor and it wasn't. It wasn't a home. It

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<v Speaker 4>would have bought a closer, it would have brought it closer.

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<v Speaker 4>You you know, you have a chance to meet I

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<v Speaker 4>mean at the at the best case circumstance, at the

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<v Speaker 4>five point swing, right at the worst case in circumstance,

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<v Speaker 4>you're you know, you're still it was what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, right, Yeah. But it's funny because I saw

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<v Speaker 2>something today MS and something that whatever it was, and

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<v Speaker 2>they talked about the refs, right, talked about the refts

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<v Speaker 2>and the refs. They're asking there's going to petition these

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<v Speaker 2>three should not move forward, blah blah blah, and not

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<v Speaker 2>one came from Arizona side. There were all tweets from

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<v Speaker 2>the duke. Yeah, so it wasn't just one side, No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was both it both sides were disappointed. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I had never seen this, like maybe you have the

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<v Speaker 2>charge block. Yeah, either it's one or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know how they determined that that was.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a weird That was a weird time frame

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<v Speaker 4>in the game that I think my wife and I

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<v Speaker 4>were going back and forth going what the heck, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen this in all the years that I've

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<v Speaker 4>been watching college.

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<v Speaker 2>But you had chocolate in your peanut butter, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? In fran Fochela even tweeted about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was He called it a blarge and what the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I've never seen this either, And there's some

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<v Speaker 2>some questions about this call from the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And there was a few of those, and to

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<v Speaker 4>be honest, on both sides, Yeah yeah, the bucking holds, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the hook and holds. The I mean there was some

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, some fouls download that you're going even

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<v Speaker 4>for them, You're going that doesn't I don't think any

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<v Speaker 4>ay touched anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So that didn't really it affected the game as

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<v Speaker 2>it was, but you know, you don't want to blame

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<v Speaker 2>that on anything, no, because it was both sides. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was an entertaining game. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>point there I said Arizona might be able to pull

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<v Speaker 2>this off, which would be a huge miracle. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching some of the other game at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time. I'm thinking, these guys are going to pull

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<v Speaker 2>this off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I mean, I you know, I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 4>to turn the channel. But then you go back and watch,

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<v Speaker 4>You're well, you go back and watch the last six

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<v Speaker 4>minutes of the Texas Tech game, You're going, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's that was incredible to you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of strange. I don't know how you feel about this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, growing up, I always rooted for Pack ten

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<v Speaker 4>or Pac twelve teams that were in it, and that

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<v Speaker 4>if we weren't in it. I don't have that same

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<v Speaker 4>feeling about the Big Twelve yet, really, but but but

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<v Speaker 4>I still, you know, Texas Tech is kind of very

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<v Speaker 4>similar I think to U of A, especially this year.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was really hoping that they would pull it

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<v Speaker 4>off because I think it's a good group, similar coaching style,

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<v Speaker 4>similar talent level. And to watch them pull that off

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<v Speaker 4>against Arkansas and I any team in the SEC, I

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<v Speaker 4>have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Loe and topons a lot like uh, Caleb in as

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<v Speaker 2>much as they move around him. Yeah, he's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that stirs that drink. Yeah, yeah, no. But to your

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<v Speaker 2>point to begin, is Caleb, what a way to go out?

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<v Speaker 2>What a way to go out? He's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Uh if he has I don't know if he drinks

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<v Speaker 2>or not, you know, but if he goes to the

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<v Speaker 2>bar and he has to pay for drink, shame on you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's in Tucson drinking and he's paying for drinks,

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<v Speaker 4>that's there's a problem there. I don't care what anybody says.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can you can you know the two years

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<v Speaker 4>that we've had to these ups and downs to people

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<v Speaker 4>on message board saying this or that, you cannot ever

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<v Speaker 4>speak ill of love?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing is, did you see any of the

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<v Speaker 2>press comments to read any of the quests we went

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<v Speaker 2>over it this morning? Yeah, so so it was a

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<v Speaker 2>love fest. Yeah, it was a love for all for

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<v Speaker 2>all the reasons that it should have been a love test. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is the V SARS V Stars comments.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Do you think the media had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the hatred. I think there's more of

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't. I never really got that feeling. I

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<v Speaker 4>more so, Henry, just because you follow it.

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<v Speaker 2>To I think it kind of just was a perception

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<v Speaker 2>But but really, I mean, come on and and last night,

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be in fact, you aren't you thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact for another games? Yeah? So how come you

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<v Speaker 2>could have taken over other games?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is perception at this point. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you watch the evolution of him as a facilitator

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<v Speaker 4>and defensively this year, I don't know where the question stands.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was just it was unbelievable. It was

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<v Speaker 4>unbelievable to watch them put up ninety three points institute team.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's you know, average heights is what six eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was dominating in that Arizona had no chance.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he's not flashy, he's not that. He's just good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a workhorse. He's a blue collar workhorse.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you know, if if the kids today, the

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<v Speaker 2>Tanneries of the world, how impressed were you a flag? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So to your what's your question to me? Who's the

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<v Speaker 2>last god bubble?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the last time? Did you'll know this because you

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Who?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? For you, Henry, who's the last person the

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<v Speaker 2>best college player I've ever watched him?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And there's I don't know if that you can especially

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<v Speaker 4>in his life lifetime. I don't think you can argue that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because you're twenty something and you've bobably been

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<v Speaker 2>following since you're twelve or whatever. Paid attention, right, not

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<v Speaker 2>the stats, but the way he controls the game exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the He's on a chessboard, he's the he could

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever you want, you can move wherever you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>So growing up, like I say, Larry Bird to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Lebron didn't go to college Carmelo. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he had that great stretch. I didn't cover Sean, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was Sean. Here was I tweeted last night. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you and I our tweet Twitter friends, right

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, And I said, I've been covering this team

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<v Speaker 2>since ninety one, day to day under Loot, a little

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<v Speaker 2>day to day under Sean, and a little day to

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<v Speaker 2>day under Tommy. But I only remember three dudes taking

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<v Speaker 2>over like Caleb did last night. Kalid a time or two,

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<v Speaker 2>but not to this degree. Uh Salim every now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>And David Sanomar. Oh, you just give him the ball

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<v Speaker 2>and get the hell out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess maybe this is a better question because

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<v Speaker 4>you've been around the game and you've seen so many

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<v Speaker 4>games for the University of Arizona, what what performance would

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<v Speaker 4>you put up there with kleb b loves Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that comes to my is two. There's

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<v Speaker 2>two Khalid's game against Michigan when he had I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was forty three here in the in the Little

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<v Speaker 2>Wlson Classic or the fest About Classic ninety four, ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four I won. And two when Damon went for

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<v Speaker 2>forty two forty two against Stanford over there, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was overtime and he just took control of the

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<v Speaker 2>game and won the game for u A against a

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<v Speaker 2>damn a good Stanford team. Would you put Derek Williams

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<v Speaker 2>in there for the last time they played Duke? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>See?

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<v Speaker 2>And I wasn't there. It's one of the games I

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<v Speaker 2>did not go to, probably probably in fact, as I

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<v Speaker 2>was waiting for quotes last night and the press converence,

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<v Speaker 2>I flipped on YouTube and that game and then that's

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<v Speaker 2>when the second half happened, and Derek was like dunking

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<v Speaker 2>and having this great moments and they were getting away

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<v Speaker 2>from Duke. Maybe maybe, but I can't remember it specifically

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<v Speaker 2>because I was not there. So the two first few

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<v Speaker 2>examples you gave were during well, I mean one was

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<v Speaker 2>a preseason tournament, one was regular season right for who

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<v Speaker 2>glid Reve was a festible class again so.

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<v Speaker 4>Preseason tournament for pre conference tournament right, and then in

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<v Speaker 4>the Dame it was during So but I mean to

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<v Speaker 4>do this in a Sweet sixteen performance against which, now

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<v Speaker 4>that I've seen Duke, I'm I'm a little disapointed. I

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<v Speaker 4>picked Houston to win the whole thing because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's I still think I do

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<v Speaker 4>you do I do Florida or Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Maybe anyway Florida. I play Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and I still think they're the better team. Houston. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Houston. I love Houston because they're I think if

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<v Speaker 2>they played Duke they can rough them up.

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<v Speaker 3>They can.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Arizona would be able to do some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It just didn't enough. I don't think you had this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you. I don't know if you've had

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<v Speaker 2>this size to do it. I think they did the

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<v Speaker 2>best they possibly could with what they had. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you say about the game? About the game in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of I was on a plate computer game all season.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way they played offensive, I mean, I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you can disagree with it. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you hang ninety three points on a Duke team that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't given up. Seventy eight was the highest. Yeah so,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean like it's it's ridiculous, and you still

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was a couple open threes down that stretch. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to make him all the time Duke made.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought most of, if not all their open looks

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs it ohs.

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<v Speaker 12>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera.

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<v Speaker 1>On Blox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Wind the Ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Bava and with me today is

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<v Speaker 2>break Eager and we have Henriette to control boards. Now

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone, we have Todd Holdouse from pem UP

446
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<v Speaker 2>Women's Basketball. Todd, how are you?

447
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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?

448
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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine? Thank you. Congratulations on what it was

449
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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic season.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was Yeah, it was. It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that it was something that as time goes by,

452
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<v Speaker 5>you just look back and you're just going to be

453
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<v Speaker 5>even more proud of it, you know, realizing all the

454
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<v Speaker 5>things that were accomplished and what we did last week

455
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<v Speaker 5>was truly incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you how can I say this? Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>great high where it takes you a while to come

458
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<v Speaker 2>down from? Or do you have like two days and

459
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<v Speaker 2>then you have to worry about next year?

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's it's taken me a few days, just because

461
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<v Speaker 5>it's so intense for you know, for a week. So

462
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<v Speaker 5>we played four games in six days, and so the

463
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<v Speaker 5>more you're winning, obviously, the higher this and the more

464
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<v Speaker 5>pressure you put on yourself to make sure the kids

465
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<v Speaker 5>are ready. And so once I got home Sunday night,

466
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<v Speaker 5>my wife can attest to the fact that it's taken

467
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<v Speaker 5>me till about today to kind of get back up

468
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<v Speaker 5>and get moving.

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<v Speaker 3>And as much as you want to, you're just drained.

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<v Speaker 5>And so yeah, probably it's a good feeling though, you

471
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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like it was because you just

472
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<v Speaker 5>left it all out there and so that's a great feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>And now we'll celebrate it in a few ways and

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<v Speaker 5>then we'll get ready for next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So just real quick before Blake comes in, is it

476
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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a I don't know, a depressing feeling too,

477
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<v Speaker 2>where all this excitement in those six days and even

478
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<v Speaker 2>leading up to that the six days, and then you

479
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<v Speaker 2>finally realize, what am I going to do? Now? I

480
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<v Speaker 2>have no game to go to.

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<v Speaker 15>No.

482
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<v Speaker 5>It totally is like that, and I think it's like

483
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<v Speaker 5>that for coaches and for players because you just get

484
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<v Speaker 5>used to a certain routine and then all of a sudden,

485
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<v Speaker 5>it's just all over and.

486
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<v Speaker 3>You never plan on an ending. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>The nice part is we knew that Saturday night was

488
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<v Speaker 5>going to be our last game no matter what, So

489
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<v Speaker 5>that part of it's kind of satisfying. But then you know,

490
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<v Speaker 5>come Monday morning, you don't have weights, you don't have conditioning,

491
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<v Speaker 5>you don't have study table do You just kind of

492
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<v Speaker 5>look around and the normalcy has been disrupted. And so

493
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<v Speaker 5>I think it takes not just the coaches. I know

494
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<v Speaker 5>the players are so used to that structure. It just

495
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<v Speaker 5>takes a few a few days to kind of get

496
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<v Speaker 5>through it. And then you kind of you know, we'll

497
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<v Speaker 5>start doing some preseason stuff in the spring and the

498
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<v Speaker 5>sophomores that want to join us are obviously going to

499
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<v Speaker 5>be welcome to come in participate too, because they're athletes

500
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<v Speaker 5>and they want to you know, they're they're just used

501
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<v Speaker 5>to things a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Todd, this is Blake.

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up having a coffee with Edgar Soto yesterday

504
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<v Speaker 4>and he was just singing your praises, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to say congratulations in the season.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>The run that you guys had and what you were

508
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<v Speaker 4>able to do is uh, it's monumental for the not

509
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<v Speaker 4>only for the city, of the community and and hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>for your future athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do have a question.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you're being into it and you're you're in

513
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<v Speaker 4>that routine and you're going and every single day you

514
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<v Speaker 4>wake up and you understand what the end goal is,

515
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<v Speaker 4>or you hope you understand what the end goal is.

516
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<v Speaker 4>Did you have a chance during this run to step

517
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<v Speaker 4>back and kind of take it all in.

518
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<v Speaker 5>I don't think as coaches you allow yourself to because

519
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<v Speaker 5>we were we had such good momentum going that I

520
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<v Speaker 5>didn't want to be the guy that screwed it up.

521
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<v Speaker 5>So we uh, we got rolling after our you know,

522
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<v Speaker 5>our last loss, was at Scottsdale, and I think it

523
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<v Speaker 5>was twelve or thirteen games ago, and at that point

524
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<v Speaker 5>we kind of had like our looking in the mirror

525
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<v Speaker 5>meeting because we had lost back to back. We lost

526
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<v Speaker 5>Ta Mesa and Scottsdale back to back, and you know,

527
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<v Speaker 5>the point is to try to be playing your best

528
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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was after that loss at Scottsdale that I just.

530
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<v Speaker 5>Kind of had everybody kind of evaluate themselves, not so

531
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<v Speaker 5>much other people, but really evaluate ourselves and decide.

532
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<v Speaker 3>What we want to do going forward.

533
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<v Speaker 5>Because as coaches, we knew what we were capable of,

534
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<v Speaker 5>and so just taking that moment to kind of reflect

535
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 5>and move forward was probably the spurning point of our season.

536
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<v Speaker 5>And then you know, you don't allow yourself to stop

537
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<v Speaker 5>while it's going, and you know how superstitious coaches are.

538
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<v Speaker 5>If you get into a rhythm, you don't want to

539
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<v Speaker 5>be a guy that screws it up. So yeah, we

540
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<v Speaker 5>just kept going. I've never heard of superstition before. Is

541
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<v Speaker 5>that a thing we talked about that two days ago?

542
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<v Speaker 5>You kept talking about your superstitions because it'll screw it up.

543
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<v Speaker 5>But Todd as you as you had that self reflections

544
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<v Speaker 5>a few games ago, twelve games ago, did you find

545
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<v Speaker 5>out something different or something more that you didn't know

546
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<v Speaker 5>about this team?

547
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think it was good good for them.

548
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<v Speaker 5>I think I knew what we were capable of, but

549
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<v Speaker 5>I don't play, so it's up to the kids to

550
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<v Speaker 5>figure it out. And what I told them that day

551
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<v Speaker 5>is that the stuff that we go through each day

552
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<v Speaker 5>is tough, and so you just have to be tough.

553
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<v Speaker 5>And everybody had to be just a little bit tougher

554
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<v Speaker 5>and a little bit tougher together. And once they started rolling,

555
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<v Speaker 5>they kind of got into a nice rhythm and rotations

556
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<v Speaker 5>got figured out, so everybody got comfortable in their role

557
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<v Speaker 5>and it just kind of kept building, you know, And

558
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<v Speaker 5>last week was kind of the climax of it, because,

559
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<v Speaker 5>you know, we were seeded sixth, but along the way,

560
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<v Speaker 5>you know, we beat we beat the ten seed, we

561
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<v Speaker 5>beat the sixth or the three seed, then we beat

562
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<v Speaker 5>the two seed, and for the championship they had to

563
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:16.119
<v Speaker 5>play the four seed. But we were definitely playing our

564
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<v Speaker 5>best basketball at the end of the year, and I

565
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.200
<v Speaker 5>think it was because the kids kind of looked at

566
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<v Speaker 5>each other and decided that, you know, we have the talent.

567
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.759
<v Speaker 5>Now it's good about all the little intangible things and

568
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<v Speaker 5>accountability things, and so I was just proud of them,

569
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<v Speaker 5>because for a group of twenty year olds to figure

570
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<v Speaker 5>that out, it doesn't happen very often.

571
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<v Speaker 4>I was asking, I asked Brian Peabody a couple of

572
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<v Speaker 4>days the same question, At what point did you know

573
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<v Speaker 4>that this group was special?

574
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<v Speaker 5>I think I knew that point when we went up

575
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<v Speaker 5>to Masa on February twenty second, and they had beaten

576
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<v Speaker 5>us the previous two times, and so in our conference

577
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 5>you play everybody three times, and so this is our

578
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<v Speaker 5>third time in the regular season against Mesa and they

579
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<v Speaker 5>were two and aero against us going in there, but

580
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<v Speaker 5>then all of a sudden their place, it just kind

581
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 5>of all came together, and you guys know that our

582
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<v Speaker 5>story rivalry between Mesa and US goes back, you know,

583
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<v Speaker 5>as long as I've been here. And it was that

584
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<v Speaker 5>moment where they looked at each other after the buzzer

585
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 5>went off and we had defeated Masa at Mesa, they

586
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<v Speaker 5>knew what they were capable of, and then to go

587
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<v Speaker 5>up there on the region championship game and beat them

588
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 5>again at their place really sealed the deal, because you know,

589
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 5>we beat them at their place for a region championship

590
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<v Speaker 5>and got cut down their nets, and I think that

591
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<v Speaker 5>first win at mesa kind of clicked in for them

592
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<v Speaker 5>and they realized what they were capable of.

593
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<v Speaker 2>How does this run and the success that you've had

594
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<v Speaker 2>recently specific to this year, though, how does this make

595
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<v Speaker 2>you guys move forward? I'm assuming that maybe you'll get

596
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<v Speaker 2>calls from people you never heard from before.

597
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I'm sure Brian is the same way. The

598
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<v Speaker 5>more success we have, I won't say the easier it

599
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 5>is to recruit, but it definitely makes the quality of

600
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<v Speaker 5>recruits better because they understand and they see what we

601
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<v Speaker 5>do on a yearly basis and they want to be

602
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<v Speaker 5>part of that.

603
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<v Speaker 3>So that part of it's easier.

604
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<v Speaker 5>And then you know, as coaches, we get to be

605
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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more selective in terms of the types

606
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<v Speaker 5>of kids we want to bring in. We don't have

607
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<v Speaker 5>to rush to sign kids. We can kind of wait

608
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<v Speaker 5>our turn and you know, wait for them to kind

609
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<v Speaker 5>of come to us because the portal makes everything a

610
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<v Speaker 5>little bit crazy. So now you have two went to

611
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<v Speaker 5>four year schools out of high school. It didn't like

612
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 5>their freshman year or didn't play their freshman year that

613
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<v Speaker 5>are maybe looking for another start. So you know, it

614
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<v Speaker 5>kind of has changed how we recruit, you know, in

615
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<v Speaker 5>this modern era of the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, Brian benefited from that with Marley for sure.

617
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

618
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<v Speaker 2>So okay, do you have you done that too or no?

619
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<v Speaker 3>Not yet, not to that extent.

620
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 5>I think women basketball players, I don't think they jump

621
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<v Speaker 5>into the portal as quick.

622
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<v Speaker 3>As guys do.

623
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<v Speaker 5>I think they think they value their education and they

624
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<v Speaker 5>want to make sure that if they do go in

625
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<v Speaker 5>the portal that it's not going to set them back

626
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<v Speaker 5>with their academics as well. So we've had a couple.

627
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<v Speaker 3>I mean Kylie.

628
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Kylie wasn't necessarily a portal kid, but she was gonna

629
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<v Speaker 5>go D one out of high school and then kind

630
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<v Speaker 5>of sat back and said, you know what, the rat

631
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<v Speaker 5>race is a little crazy. I'm gonna go to Juco

632
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<v Speaker 5>and get at my footing underneath me. And then you know,

633
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<v Speaker 5>she went out and had an amazing year this year.

634
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<v Speaker 5>So we've benefited, maybe not directly from the portal, but

635
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<v Speaker 5>the existence of the portal.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Probably we've got to call it's I think it's a

637
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<v Speaker 2>d on the line. She wants to disagree with you

638
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>with the women jumping into the portal just real quick.

639
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<v Speaker 2>So are you a better coach now?

640
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

641
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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm I've gotten better over the years. I

642
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 5>don't know if you're compared to me that I'm a

643
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 5>better coach now than I first started, I think. And

644
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 5>I think the big reason for that is I've had

645
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 5>daughters now that have grown up, so I learned a lot.

646
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>That's bad.

647
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've learned a lot being a dad of young

648
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.880
<v Speaker 5>females and them, you know, kind of cluing me into

649
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 5>certain things that different between men and women. And obviously

650
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 5>I got to coach Analyst the last couple of years,

651
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 5>which was magical, and I'll always cherish those memories too.

652
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Well what inside, because that's bardy very true, right you

653
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<v Speaker 2>get Yeah, you have one, so you know you know

654
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a little more and they dad.

655
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<v Speaker 5>This absolutely And I like coaching like and I always

656
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 5>I always tried, like I want to. I want to

657
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 5>learn too, So I don't ever want to get to

658
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 5>a point where I'm just content and think I know

659
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>it all about basketball. I think the fun part for

660
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 5>both Brian and I each year is that is essentially

661
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 5>a new chemistry experiment every year. And so you're flopping

662
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 5>out at least half your roster usually. Yeah, and to

663
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 5>maintain success over eighteen years, uh is rewarding. I think

664
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<v Speaker 5>I like the wins and losses, but when I look back,

665
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 5>it'll be it'll be gratifying to know that we were

666
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 5>relevant for you know, twenty years and and then region

667
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 5>championship all those years. And so just the ability to

668
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 5>adapt to a you know, the climate has been a

669
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<v Speaker 5>lot of fun.

670
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

671
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Ton you just said something that I don't think a

672
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of people can grasp is that you essentially lose

673
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>half your roster every year. Right, so if you're a

674
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 4>four year coach, you might turn over you know, three

675
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 4>maybe five people. I mean, you're turning over half the roster.

676
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 4>How do you deal with that year in and year out?

677
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Do you have a formula that you try to go

678
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 4>into the season with and end the season with or

679
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 4>does it just change from a year in to year out?

680
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Basis.

681
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 5>I always like to explain it, like we have a

682
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 5>certain philosophy, Like there's certain things we like to do

683
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 5>and want to be really good at that being like

684
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 5>half courtman defense, and we want to push the ball.

685
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 5>And then you know, I have great assistant coach. Pete

686
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 5>Fajardo is what I would call my recruiting coordinator, and

687
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 5>Pete and I have been together for twelve years now,

688
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 5>and he just loves going out and going to tournaments

689
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.960
<v Speaker 5>and watching high school games, AAU games, and we look

690
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 5>for certain types of kids and he kind of identifies

691
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 5>them and then we, you know, bring him down to visit.

692
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.039
<v Speaker 3>We always try to. I always categorize.

693
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<v Speaker 5>Myself as when it comes to recruit the more of

694
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 5>a sniper than a shotgun guy, where I'd like to

695
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 5>pick out the kids that we want to be part

696
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 5>of our program as opposed to offer a bunch of kids,

697
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 5>and then it's first come, first serve, And so we've

698
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 5>kind of developed that as our formula. But obviously we

699
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 5>stick to our philosophy of good man defense, rebound strong,

700
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 5>and push the tempo. And then as we get the

701
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 5>kids in, we may tinker some of our offensive sets,

702
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 5>and we might do some things differently on defense in

703
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 5>certain instances, but for the most part, that's kind of

704
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 5>our formula.

705
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 4>How involved are you with your outgoing sophomores and their

706
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 4>recruitment process for the next next level?

707
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Super involved? In fact, I probably sent out about.

708
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 5>Four hundred emails today just for our sophomores that want

709
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 5>to go on now, because not all of them want

710
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 5>to go on, but the ones that do want to

711
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 5>go on, I want to them Holmes, because that's their future.

712
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 5>And so I take a great deal of pride in

713
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 5>watching those kids go on and use basketball as a

714
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 5>tool to get out of college with less loans, with

715
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 5>a degree, so that they can go back to wherever

716
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 5>it is they want to go and produce, you know,

717
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 5>what they want to do in life. And so I

718
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 5>take a great deal of pride in it, and I

719
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 5>work hard at it, and we've been at it a

720
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 5>long time. So the nice part is PIMA has a

721
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 5>good reputation in terms of the type of kids we

722
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 5>put out every year, and so college coaches, four year coaches,

723
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 5>really value that and they know what kind of kid

724
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.759
<v Speaker 5>they're getting when they get a PEMA kid.

725
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>I know that sounds like a silly question because I

726
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 4>think the general public just expects that to happen. But

727
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 4>as a kid that played at a junior college, I'm

728
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 4>a juco athlete. My juco coach didn't help me at all.

729
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he ever made a phone call for me.

730
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know he picked up the phone to

731
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 4>tell Scouts not to draft me because Scout's told me

732
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 4>after my sophomore year.

733
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Really, so like for.

734
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>People don't realize is Todd what you do is incredible.

735
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 4>And those athletes later on in life, when they become

736
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 4>a full blown adult and hopefully mature, which I'm still

737
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 4>trying to do, we have a lot of people to

738
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 4>think or not a ton of people to think in

739
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 4>our lives for our career path or our life path.

740
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 4>You are one of those people. And from a Juco athlete,

741
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 4>I want to say thank you for that, because it

742
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 4>takes a lot of it takes a special person to

743
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 4>do that. So what you're doing is incredible, Todd, and

744
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to thank you for that.

745
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Well.

746
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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that I too was a Juco kid, and

747
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't be where I am without Coach Mason at

748
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 5>Waldorf College in Iowa if he wouldn't have taken a

749
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 5>chance on a skinny high school senior in Iowa that

750
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 5>was far from being fully developed, and so he took

751
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>a chance on me. And because of that, I learned

752
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 5>the value of junior college and what it can do.

753
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 5>And I think that I'm never going to be rich,

754
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 5>but I hope that I can make the world a

755
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 5>little bit better by producing good people. So that's kind

756
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 5>of a whole mission behind us.

757
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>That's that's nice, that's let me ask you a dumb question.

758
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>But it's just an optionality from my past. So Arizona,

759
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know I've covered Arizona forever. So they win

760
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the title in ninety seven and no one thought possible.

761
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>They don't do it in ninety eight when you thought

762
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>it was possible. But in two thousand and one they

763
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 2>finished second with a great team and a great run.

764
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>But no one talks about two thousand and one, right,

765
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>even though I think that's the best team that ever

766
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Arizona ever had. Now you finished second, is it a

767
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 2>disappointment that you didn't win at all? How do you

768
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 2>think eventually when in ten years that the team will

769
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>be looked at?

770
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think the thing that I know for a

771
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 5>fact is the group that went through it, all the team,

772
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 5>the coaches, the managers, athletic personnel, they'll they'll always value it.

773
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 5>And so for me, that's all I really need to know.

774
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I think as I was sitting there

775
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 5>Saturday getting ready for the game. This is the second

776
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 5>national championship I've been in, and we came up short

777
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 5>in twenty eleven as well, But I never looked back

778
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 5>and regretted it. I mean, I wanted it to I

779
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 5>wanted to win because I wanted to see I wanted

780
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 5>to see the kids cut down a net and just

781
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 5>like the unbelievable joy that that would get to give

782
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 5>team of their first national championship in women's basketball.

783
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And so that part of it's a little bit disappointing.

784
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 5>But I know for a fact that these ladies walked

785
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 5>away with so much pride and a sense of accomplishment

786
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 5>that that's good enough for me. Now, one of these days,

787
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I hope we do win it, because I'm tired of

788
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.719
<v Speaker 5>coming close. So competitor, the competitor in me is gonna

789
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 5>keep going. But I also know that the value of

790
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 5>the memories that the kids made, you know, last week,

791
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 5>will always stick with them.

792
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Well to that point, I talked to Cosgroove a lot.

793
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's had a lot of great success, won a

794
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>couple of national titles, and I said this to Brian,

795
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I think on Monday, you're a car salesman. You sold

796
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>ten cars twenty cars this month, you got to do?

797
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you got to do the next month? Twenty two?

798
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five cars?

799
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

800
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>So you finished second? How do you repeat something like

801
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this because you felt the joy and the pain.

802
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

803
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.719
<v Speaker 5>I think the good part is that we have kids

804
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 5>coming back that were a big part of coming that close,

805
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 5>So they'll be hungry. And I think that the kids

806
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 5>that we have already signed for next year and the

807
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 5>few that we have left to sign will have to

808
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 5>fall in line in terms of what expectations we set.

809
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 5>Because the thing that I learned most more than anything

810
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 5>last week was that we're just as talented as anybody there.

811
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 5>And so there's nobody, there's nobody that's without, you know,

812
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 5>not within our reach, you know. And Ethics was the

813
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 5>two seed, and we played them in the semi finals

814
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 5>and they were averaging ninety five a game, and they

815
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 5>thought they were world beaters, and they only had one

816
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 5>loss going into the game. But the kids found a

817
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 5>way to come back from seven down and with fifty

818
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 5>two seconds left to tie it up and send it

819
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 5>to overtime. And so just that belief in knowing that

820
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 5>you're that close and you're good enough to do it

821
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:54.880
<v Speaker 5>will fuel us next year.

822
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, fantastic, tog. Congratulations again.

823
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it. I love I love getting on here

824
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 5>with you guys, So I appreciate it. I love being

825
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 5>from Tucson. I love representing Tucson. So they have a

826
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 5>pretty special thing in our in our city. So it's

827
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 5>always fun.

828
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 3>Great.

829
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Wait, don't don't say you love it too much, because

830
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have you in as a guest host this summer.

831
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>You guys are gonna do.

832
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah radio, you guys are gonna do a remote out

833
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>at uh somewhere on the concrete somewhere right here.

834
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Hey, I'm gonna hold you to it.

835
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Tom, Thank you, man, I might.

836
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Tom. Yeah, thanks Matt.

837
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh, appreciate you guys. Thank you.

838
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, take care. We got to go take a

839
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>break and then come back and just maybe take some calls.

840
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's

841
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look

842
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>back at the Ludolsen era in my new book, Lessons

843
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>from lut It was a labor of love through the

844
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>eyes of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to

845
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>give insight to the coach and the man who led them,

846
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>competed against them and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for

847
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>his twenty five years as Arizona's loved coach. Lessons from

848
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>lut is an insight to how he built the program

849
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>into a national powerhouse. Want one email media Steve dot

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to My the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today

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<v Speaker 2>is Blake Eager from.

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<v Speaker 4>Southern Arizona Sports Tourism and film authority, and we got

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<v Speaker 4>Henry from.

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<v Speaker 2>His mama, New York, New York. Hey, if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>want to call and talk about last night's game, even

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<v Speaker 2>the naysayer vic Vic, I didn't hear from you last night,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess the game was okay for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to give me a quick call because ck Vic

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what the hell?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, he's just always angry, just always, you know, what

920
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 4>the hell? Turnover here because he just satisfied. Only if

921
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 4>they win by twenty points yesterday he can send me

922
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<v Speaker 4>a go Cats. You know he's all happy. Call him

923
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<v Speaker 4>mister front runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, maybe he needs to move to the

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<v Speaker 2>city up north and fair a fair Weather fan. He'll

926
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<v Speaker 2>never do that, You'll never do because he loves the Cats.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves the cats, but you know, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few others obviously, right who. I didn't see very many

929
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<v Speaker 2>bad comments last day from the game, because you usually say, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is companying, this is not happening, YadA YadA, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't. Maybe I didn't see it often enough

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<v Speaker 2>or check off enough, but there were very few, very

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<v Speaker 2>few things said that went bad. I mean, uh, what

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<v Speaker 2>what would you have decided? I mean KG was being kJ, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but defensively he was. I mean, what do you what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want from? I mean that is who he is? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say love is love, kJ is KG? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>right right? You gotta take with the good with the bad. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta call who's this? You're on the on the air?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, Steve, you bind me lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 15>You gave me points?

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<v Speaker 2>No no no no, no, no no no. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you to take the points. You better made some money

946
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<v Speaker 2>to move into the foothills, sir. I told, I told

947
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<v Speaker 2>everybody who listened, and I wrote a story, and I

948
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<v Speaker 2>wrote a story yesterday that Arizona covers most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think they've they've covered thirteen now, thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen, and anybody who is smart enough to take

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<v Speaker 2>the points got some money.

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<v Speaker 15>So you what you're telling me is you're not going

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<v Speaker 15>to honor your art.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet No.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're telling me is is as you're making

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<v Speaker 2>up stories. I have a witness here. You did you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say double or nothing? Last time? We couldn't figure

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<v Speaker 2>out that was what was war. Yeah, we didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell you were talking about. It also points

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<v Speaker 2>out that you don't pay attention to anything I say,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sad.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh come on now, brother, I love you anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, hey, there's a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 15>I'll tell you what I was dismissed the flag. This

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<v Speaker 15>kid is a baller, yeah, and I am, and I'm

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<v Speaker 15>you know, if he were to stay one more year,

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<v Speaker 15>he could make a ton of money with then I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, no, he's gonna make a ton. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>first overall pick. Yeah, he's the number one pick. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make a ton.

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<v Speaker 15>I know he's the first overall pick. But if you

972
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<v Speaker 15>put this in perspective, you realize how much better he's

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<v Speaker 15>what eighteen, barely eighteen years old. No, he can't even

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<v Speaker 15>go he can't even go out with the guys and

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<v Speaker 15>have a beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, No, he won't be able to do that

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<v Speaker 2>next year. Either. But let me tell you here's the question.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Kobe Bryant. What's he gonna do? Kobell him?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Carter What I think Kobe?

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Carter Bright, I don't think, maybe a psychic. I

982
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<v Speaker 4>don't think we know what he's gonna do. I apologize,

983
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<v Speaker 4>Carter Bright.

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<v Speaker 15>You have a media in there. Yes, I think, in

985
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 15>all seriousness, I think one more year would do him

986
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<v Speaker 15>a ton of good.

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00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're really doing Yeah.

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00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 15>I think he needs to physically, he needs to build

989
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 15>up and then another five ten pounds and defensively. And

990
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 15>somebody pointed out something really important and I don't forget

991
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 15>where I read it, but it was about the fact

992
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 15>is in Europe they play a lot. They played, you know,

993
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.719
<v Speaker 15>club ball all the time, and they learn how to pick.

994
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 15>And Duke did an amazing job on the pick and

995
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<v Speaker 15>rolls and the you know, making themselves available and putting

996
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<v Speaker 15>up a strong pick for their guys to break in.

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00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 15>I think that was real evident when you look at

998
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.239
<v Speaker 15>the way they played that game, they played like it

999
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 15>was almost European club ball. Versus college ball last night.

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<v Speaker 15>They were very, very impressive. You got to tip your

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<v Speaker 15>hat and you know, appreciate what the Cats gave Tucson.

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<v Speaker 15>They really we have a lot to be proud of.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the way it should be today and

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward. Right, Okay, thanks for thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Still try to pride me out of a lunch? I

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<v Speaker 2>know I don't. Does he have a Have you ever

1008
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 2>taken him to lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's paid. Well, he paid because he lost the

1011
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 2>bet to me. Oh so you only you only sure

1012
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<v Speaker 2>up when you no, no, no, have lost time? Yeah,

1013
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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting on my text. He owned me so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you're claiming hasn't a Yeah, so we just said

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<v Speaker 4>something interesting. So to get back to Carter Bryant, I

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<v Speaker 4>almost said Kobe as well? Uh does he stay for

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<v Speaker 4>another year? Because I mean you think about the great

1018
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<v Speaker 4>signing that we just had yesterday morning. Who's coming is

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<v Speaker 4>co o Pete? I mean that was listen. I I

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<v Speaker 4>my my cousin and my dad and my uncle because

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<v Speaker 4>we're in a group chat. And the whole year I've

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<v Speaker 4>been like swooning over this kid, right because if you

1023
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<v Speaker 4>if you watch any of his tape. It's unbelievable but

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<v Speaker 4>very similar player and Carter Bryant and co A Pete.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you think Carter Bryant stays?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's guaranteed to go in the top fifteen, you

1028
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<v Speaker 2>got to go. If he goes in the top twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you stay. I'm sure he's getting a ton of

1030
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<v Speaker 2>money for next year. How much money is actually a

1031
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<v Speaker 2>lot of money? And how much do you really need

1032
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 2>right here? Be a sophomore? Realistically, he probably should come back.

1033
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 2>He should come back. How much stock he'll improve is

1034
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>anybody's guessed because the NBA values potential and he has

1035
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 2>all that, right, and are there and we I don't

1036
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<v Speaker 2>know if you've seen a lot of college ball, but

1037
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<v Speaker 2>but are there twenty better people better than him in college?

1038
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<v Speaker 3>Right now?

1039
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 2>And you're talking, you're talking from a you're talking from

1040
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<v Speaker 2>an NBA standpoint, So you're you're going off ceiling. What's

1041
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling?

1042
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

1043
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<v Speaker 2>I think he probably argually as one of the highest

1044
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<v Speaker 2>ceilings in college top twenty yeah, right, right, and he

1045
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<v Speaker 2>hasn't reached it. Obviously that was not even happening there

1046
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<v Speaker 2>probably no I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think he you know, you're probably looking at sixty percent

1048
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<v Speaker 4>fifty five to sixty percent of what Carter Bryant can

1049
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<v Speaker 4>possibly be. It's a tough conversation to have, right, I

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<v Speaker 4>do think you have a lot of areas to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>You've's got to be one of the best colleges for development.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's an argument there. Maybe you try

1053
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<v Speaker 4>to argue that. I think, if I'm a college athlete

1054
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<v Speaker 4>or high school athlete and I'm looking to develop, and

1055
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<v Speaker 4>I know that I have another step in my game,

1056
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<v Speaker 4>uve's got to be in my top five schools that

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<v Speaker 4>I would go to.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you this, I think, maybe correct

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<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong. Guys, he came here with the intention,

1060
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 2>or at least not with his intention, but our observations

1061
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>were that he was going to be won and done.

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00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that's what I mean from the get go.

1063
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I think he went for He was anywhere from six

1064
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 4>to twelve when he stepped.

1065
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>On came okay, So that probably hasn't changed. At least

1066
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the perceptions are or that he's going to leave rather

1067
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 2>than stay. Right, So there's that if he leaves, no

1068
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 2>one should be upset because that's what the projection was.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you can get upset with athletes anymore

1070
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 4>in this day and age. Whether he goes into I

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00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 4>mean even if you went into the transfer portal, which

1072
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.320
<v Speaker 4>I would think would be kind of silly, but that

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00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 4>would be a money thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 4>It's such a weird time frame for college athletes at

1076
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 4>this point. But if he does stay and you have

1077
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 4>co opete, then do you you think kJ leaves them?

1078
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<v Speaker 3>No?

1079
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<v Speaker 2>I don't kJ. No, No, what's he going to do?

1080
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean unless he gets more money? And that's the

1081
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 2>sad part of it, because somebody else is going to

1082
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 2>lure you away with more money. And at the end

1083
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 2>of the day, is that really what you want to do?

1084
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Happiness for money? Yes, I guess when you're in nineteen twenty.

1085
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Are you asking a nineteen year old blue that on

1086
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<v Speaker 2>question where I grew up? Yeah, I'm asking a forty

1087
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 2>two year old Blake, which I mean no, absolutely not.

1088
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to say my age out loud because

1089
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:27.519
<v Speaker 2>you could be right or you could be wrong. Just

1090
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, but you don't want to throw me under

1091
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 2>the bus. Uh, sixty year old Steve, I don't know

1092
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>why you start over when you have what you have

1093
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 2>here and people trust you and people love you.

1094
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 4>It's the same conversation we have with Sean Miller right

1095
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 4>leaving to Texas. And I get that, you get it,

1096
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 4>but I mean, Xavier took you a second gave you

1097
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 4>a second chance at a coaching op.

1098
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<v Speaker 2>You would you date. Here's here's my analogy for the

1099
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Kobe thing and that Kobe thing the Carter thing. Yeah,

1100
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's probably a dumb analogy, but Okay, you meet

1101
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the supermodel, you meet the supermodel, and you know that,

1102
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 2>uh that, but you know that you and your date,

1103
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 2>but you know that she's gonna cheat on you and

1104
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.559
<v Speaker 2>leave you after nine months. And Carter is that situation.

1105
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 2>You know you're gonna get them for one year and

1106
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 2>possibly leave you for do you do Dater?

1107
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a strange analogy to put towards college athletes.

1108
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<v Speaker 4>But but you understand what I'm saying is that super

1109
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 4>model gonna give me a better chance of winning a

1110
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 4>national championship.

1111
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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna make you look good. Then you probably you

1112
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 2>probably take that chance. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's a you know, it's a it's a

1114
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<v Speaker 4>weird it's a weird time frame. I've said it multiple times.

1115
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 4>I keep saying it over and again, but I'm so

1116
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 4>excited for what we just had in this season. And

1117
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I know the reason why I don't want it to

1118
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 4>end because I've watched this team grow and grow and grow,

1119
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 4>and then as soon as it's done, the conversation turns

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<v Speaker 4>into who's leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, come on here, good point. Let me

1122
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 2>say this because last night it was like five minutes

1123
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<v Speaker 2>after the game and I started seeing that who's staying

1124
00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and who's going.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking people don't know how to enjoy the moment,

1126
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 4>enjoy the moment, step back and watch what just happen.

1127
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why I was asking Todd earlier. At any point

1128
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 4>and from a coaching standpoint, I know it's really difficult,

1129
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 4>but there's got to be a time where you take

1130
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 4>five minutes to yourself and you step back and you go, man,

1131
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:14.639
<v Speaker 4>this was pretty incredible what we were able to do,

1132
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 4>or this is pretty incredible what we're able to do

1133
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 4>right now in this moment. But you're right, I mean

1134
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 4>five minutes after the game where I mean, there's a

1135
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 4>group text that I'm in that people are like, Okay, well,

1136
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 4>who's leaving now? Because CoA Pete's coming in and it's like,

1137
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to think about that, you know. I

1138
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 4>want to enjoy this team for what this team was,

1139
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 4>uh and for what they gave us as fans. Yeah, okay,

1140
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.639
<v Speaker 4>so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

1141
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. We're moving forward. Yeah, you know what

1142
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 2>else yesterday was?

1143
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1144
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Anybody should be a national holiday?

1145
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 4>There you go, and you know what else happened yesterday

1146
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 4>is MLB the app and the MLB TV.

1147
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>What's it working?

1148
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:56.920
<v Speaker 3>So we go?

1149
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I tell you, I go in my dad's house every year.

1150
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 4>I've done it since we were like, I mean took

1151
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 4>me out of school when I was twelve. I think

1152
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 4>probably actually elementary school, so I was younger than that.

1153
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1154
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<v Speaker 4>We have we have friends that come over to the

1155
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 4>house to watch the games, and we're sitting there trying

1156
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 4>to get the Guardians game on. And MLB completely doesn't

1157
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 4>work on opening day, Like what is what's happening? Like

1158
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 4>you literally even spend your whole off season. I'm preparing

1159
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 4>for this one moment and then nothing. So I know, Steve,

1160
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 4>You're not a baseball guy. So no, I am a

1161
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:27.719
<v Speaker 4>baseball guy. He's just not as much as you are.

1162
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's because you don't like baseball players, which is

1163
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 2>strange that I'm here. What are you talking about? Baseball player?

1164
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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about from a just a next Yeah, well,

1165
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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming when you said that the JC guys didn't

1166
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't the Jayse coaches didn't endorse you, you must have been.

1167
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I would say you're correct, So I would. I

1168
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 4>would more, I wouldn't normally say that. Here's my argument

1169
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 4>against it. Todd Engelheart, who's still the head coach at

1170
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Coaches College, is the one that helped me get recruited

1171
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 4>and helped me get to the Northwood Summer League that

1172
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 4>put me on a national attention level. Like, so, if

1173
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:07.639
<v Speaker 4>I was a pay in the butt, maybe I was.

1174
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Other coaches wanted to help me, just not my own.

1175
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 4>So maybe you're right.

1176
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1177
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 4>Funny story though, I mean, my junior year, the Saint

1178
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Louis Cardinals scout called me and was talking to me

1179
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, yeah, I want to draft you

1180
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 4>last year, but your head coach told me. Your coach

1181
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.280
<v Speaker 4>at Eastern told me not to. And I was like,

1182
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 4>it'd been nice to like know, why did you ever

1183
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 4>talk to him again?

1184
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 1>No?

1185
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 4>I have no interest, really no interests. Yeah, I'm still

1186
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 4>run and I still deal with Eastern a lot. Like

1187
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I still give a lot of credit to Eastern Arizona College,

1188
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 4>like phenomenal. I love thatcher, I love that area. But yeah,

1189
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll never have a conversation with him again. Okay, let's

1190
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:39.599
<v Speaker 4>go come back, do some breaking news yep.
