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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Why and the Ball here
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with
Speaker 2: me today is going to be Blake Eager and we
Speaker 2: got Henry at the controls. How you doing, Henry? Good?
Speaker 3: Good good good? Uh.
Speaker 2: Once you go to the door and grab and grab
Speaker 2: our guy, Blake, he's here now. Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome
Speaker 2: to Friday, the last show of the week. What a
Speaker 2: game last night, right, What a fantastic game and how
Speaker 2: they played, how hard they played. I don't think there
Speaker 2: are very many disappointed people out there, you know, talking
Speaker 2: about last night, but there could be. I think that
Speaker 2: had they been blown out, had been different. But they
Speaker 2: didn't get blown out, and there was a lot of
Speaker 2: I don't know, inspiration on that team, and a post
Speaker 2: game they had a lot of very kind words about
Speaker 2: Caleb and in the year and how cool it was,
Speaker 2: if that's the right word. Cool. Blake, how were you?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me so I had to run up
Speaker 2: the stairs. That's fine. You get a little exercise here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I need it?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 2: What did you think about the game last night?
Speaker 4: Like, I'm sad today, and that sad because I'm frustrated
Speaker 4: because we lost, but kind of what you just hit on,
Speaker 4: I think watching it's sad because it's the last time
Speaker 4: we're going to see that team play.
Speaker 2: Together, right, yeah, right?
Speaker 4: And they worked their tails off this year to get
Speaker 4: to the point where they were, and yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: I love watching them play. I love the grit and
Speaker 4: it's I never say there's a good win or a
Speaker 4: good loss, right, but it was impressive what they were
Speaker 4: able to do last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was talking about Henry off the air and we
Speaker 2: could talk about it again, Henry that had they been
Speaker 2: blown out by twenty twenty five, and that's what it
Speaker 2: looked like it was gonna cap, you know, like it
Speaker 2: was going. And then they made that rally, which was
Speaker 2: very got cut it to five. I think, great, they
Speaker 2: did cut it to five and you're thinking, God, they
Speaker 2: might be able to pull this off with a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes left, and you think, God, this team has
Speaker 2: a lot inside of it because they didn't really get
Speaker 2: blown out this year, maybe twice, if not even blowouts.
Speaker 2: He just didn't play well.
Speaker 4: I mean when iwa State game right, which was a
Speaker 4: revenge game, but it's still I mean, they were able
Speaker 4: to keep it somewhat close in that second.
Speaker 2: Half, so maybe two three games, yeah, but last night
Speaker 2: was just you know, holy crap, they might be able
Speaker 2: to pull this off, and they played fairly well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you're down nineteen I think at one point, right,
Speaker 4: And the one thing I was thinking about all day
Speaker 4: to day when we were texting was I don't think
Speaker 4: there's a better way for Caleb Love to go out right.
Speaker 2: I mean exactly right, exactly right.
Speaker 4: That's going to go down as one of the greatest
Speaker 4: performances as a Wildcap because when you were down, we
Speaker 4: were down nineteen. Uve was down, sorry, Uve was down nineteen.
Speaker 4: He scored seventeen points. I was fifteen fifteen sorry, fifteen
Speaker 4: points straight straight. I mean, it's unbelievable what he was
Speaker 4: able to do. And he willed that team back into
Speaker 4: that game and we had a chance. And you know,
Speaker 4: we can pinpoint different situations in different circumstances. I don't
Speaker 4: I hope you don't agree with me. Duke is Duke
Speaker 4: is more talented than we were, no question, Yeah, no question.
Speaker 4: But the heart that that that you've eighteen showed was
Speaker 4: it was incredible.
Speaker 2: More talented and they had a better go to Yeah,
Speaker 2: because let me tell you if I'm if i'm their
Speaker 2: coach of shi or whatever I'm saying, when you're down
Speaker 2: on our side on the offensive side, give the ball
Speaker 2: to Yeah, it has to run through it. Give it
Speaker 2: to him. If he decides to shoot, we're okay with it.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, we're okay with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When's the I mean, we were talking about this last
Speaker 4: night in our one of our group chats. When who's
Speaker 4: the last college basketball player that you've seen that's that
Speaker 4: good not just talented on the offensive side, but defensively, passing, dribbling.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I Mean, names are like, uh,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant were thrown out. Yeah, okay, but did they
Speaker 2: see him or you guys must have been young when
Speaker 2: they Yeah. Yeah, God, there's so many good guys, right.
Speaker 2: The guy that that comes to mind, but I saw
Speaker 2: him just go off on Arizona stroll myle Swift and
Speaker 2: he says he was just so good in terms of
Speaker 2: athletically talented, Right, But not like this basketball guy, this guy.
Speaker 2: And I didn't see Larry Bird because I was in
Speaker 2: seventy nine. I was like fifteen the time. The probably
Speaker 2: your friends saw Yeah, Drec and Larry Bird was fantastic,
Speaker 2: Michael and Michael magic conson And this is when you're impressionable,
Speaker 2: right fifteen, You're thinking, God, I want to beat these guys.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, although you know, Jimmer for Debt
Speaker 2: was pretty damn good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not defensively, No, no, no, no, are just I
Speaker 4: mean Flag had and I know they talked about it
Speaker 4: throughout the whole game, right, but Flag has the ability
Speaker 4: to turn the game around on both sides.
Speaker 2: And he's kind of savvy. It's a savvy of knowing
Speaker 2: the right decisions to make. And you know that block
Speaker 2: that he had just came out of nowhere and YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: And you know what, Caleb matched him, if not more,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know Caleb them and like you said,
Speaker 2: you kept them. Both guys kept to each team in
Speaker 2: the game. I did think and I hate to bring
Speaker 2: this up because I don't do this. I don't do this.
Speaker 2: I may have done this one time this year, for
Speaker 2: the first time in forever. The refs were were were
Speaker 2: what they were right. But it's not just one person
Speaker 2: thinking that it's nationally they're thinking of this.
Speaker 4: When you have every analysis or analyst at the same
Speaker 4: time saying the same thing and it's not the call
Speaker 4: that's being called on the floor, right, there's a I
Speaker 4: think there's an inherent problem there, especially when you're talking
Speaker 4: about that flagrant call right that just happened with Bradley.
Speaker 4: It was exactly, in my mind, the same situation and
Speaker 4: in time in the game that could have turned in
Speaker 4: our favor and it wasn't. It wasn't a home. It
Speaker 4: would have bought a closer, it would have brought it closer.
Speaker 4: You you know, you have a chance to meet I
Speaker 4: mean at the at the best case circumstance, at the
Speaker 4: five point swing, right at the worst case in circumstance,
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're still it was what.
Speaker 2: It was, right, Yeah. But it's funny because I saw
Speaker 2: something today MS and something that whatever it was, and
Speaker 2: they talked about the refs, right, talked about the refts
Speaker 2: and the refs. They're asking there's going to petition these
Speaker 2: three should not move forward, blah blah blah, and not
Speaker 2: one came from Arizona side. There were all tweets from
Speaker 2: the duke. Yeah, so it wasn't just one side, No, no,
Speaker 2: it was both it both sides were disappointed. I thought
Speaker 2: I had never seen this, like maybe you have the
Speaker 2: charge block. Yeah, either it's one or the other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how they determined that that was.
Speaker 4: That was a weird That was a weird time frame
Speaker 4: in the game that I think my wife and I
Speaker 4: were going back and forth going what the heck, Like,
Speaker 4: I've never seen this in all the years that I've
Speaker 4: been watching college.
Speaker 2: But you had chocolate in your peanut butter, you know what?
Speaker 2: What the hell? In fran Fochela even tweeted about this.
Speaker 2: It was He called it a blarge and what the hell?
Speaker 2: He says, I've never seen this either, And there's some
Speaker 2: some questions about this call from the outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there was a few of those, and to
Speaker 4: be honest, on both sides, Yeah yeah, the bucking holds, yeah,
Speaker 4: the hook and holds. The I mean there was some
Speaker 4: I don't know, some fouls download that you're going even
Speaker 4: for them, You're going that doesn't I don't think any
Speaker 4: ay touched anybody.
Speaker 2: Right, So that didn't really it affected the game as
Speaker 2: it was, but you know, you don't want to blame
Speaker 2: that on anything, no, because it was both sides. But
Speaker 2: I thought it was an entertaining game. It was a
Speaker 2: point there I said Arizona might be able to pull
Speaker 2: this off, which would be a huge miracle. And then
Speaker 2: I was watching some of the other game at the
Speaker 2: same time. I'm thinking, these guys are going to pull
Speaker 2: this off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, I you know, I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to turn the channel. But then you go back and watch,
Speaker 4: You're well, you go back and watch the last six
Speaker 4: minutes of the Texas Tech game, You're going, what is happening?
Speaker 4: Like that's that was incredible to you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of strange. I don't know how you feel about this.
Speaker 4: You know, growing up, I always rooted for Pack ten
Speaker 4: or Pac twelve teams that were in it, and that
Speaker 4: if we weren't in it. I don't have that same
Speaker 4: feeling about the Big Twelve yet, really, but but but
Speaker 4: I still, you know, Texas Tech is kind of very
Speaker 4: similar I think to U of A, especially this year.
Speaker 4: So I was really hoping that they would pull it
Speaker 4: off because I think it's a good group, similar coaching style,
Speaker 4: similar talent level. And to watch them pull that off
Speaker 4: against Arkansas and I any team in the SEC, I
Speaker 4: have no.
Speaker 2: Loe and topons a lot like uh, Caleb in as
Speaker 2: much as they move around him. Yeah, he's the guy
Speaker 2: that stirs that drink. Yeah, yeah, no. But to your
Speaker 2: point to begin, is Caleb, what a way to go out?
Speaker 2: What a way to go out? He's going to be
Speaker 2: Uh if he has I don't know if he drinks
Speaker 2: or not, you know, but if he goes to the
Speaker 2: bar and he has to pay for drink, shame on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If he's in Tucson drinking and he's paying for drinks,
Speaker 4: that's there's a problem there. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 4: And you can you can you know the two years
Speaker 4: that we've had to these ups and downs to people
Speaker 4: on message board saying this or that, you cannot ever
Speaker 4: speak ill of love?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is, did you see any of the
Speaker 2: press comments to read any of the quests we went
Speaker 2: over it this morning? Yeah, so so it was a
Speaker 2: love fest. Yeah, it was a love for all for
Speaker 2: all the reasons that it should have been a love test. Right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And the thing is the V SARS V Stars comments.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Do you think the media had
Speaker 2: a lot of the hatred. I think there's more of
Speaker 2: the people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I never really got that feeling. I
Speaker 4: mean there were times there was questions asked, but never
Speaker 4: a hatred. I think I think you have a fans
Speaker 4: more so, Henry, just because you follow it.
Speaker 2: To I think it kind of just was a perception
Speaker 2: that might have carried him from North Carolina, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: and maybe being a ball hog or or whatever in
Speaker 2: addition to other things probably were not pretty to know about.
Speaker 2: But but really, I mean, come on and and last night,
Speaker 2: if he was a wallhog, which he which he he
Speaker 2: needed to be in fact, you aren't you thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: in fact for another games? Yeah? So how come you
Speaker 2: could have taken over other games?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I Henry's absolutely right. Yeah, you know, I think it's
Speaker 4: I think it is perception at this point. But I mean,
Speaker 4: if you watch the evolution of him as a facilitator
Speaker 4: and defensively this year, I don't know where the question stands.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just it was unbelievable. It was
Speaker 4: unbelievable to watch them put up ninety three points institute team.
Speaker 4: But that's you know, average heights is what six eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was dominating in that Arizona had no chance.
Speaker 2: It was overwhelming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean even with Vassar and uh At,
Speaker 4: you know they call seven foot, he's probably closer to
Speaker 4: seven to one. He just doesn't have the same yet,
Speaker 4: the same kind of dominance and presence down low that
Speaker 4: the bigs had. And then I mean, you just don't.
Speaker 4: It's a generational player and Flag you don't see that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know he's not flashy, he's not that. He's just good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a workhorse. He's a blue collar workhorse.
Speaker 2: That's why you know, if if the kids today, the
Speaker 2: Tanneries of the world, how impressed were you a flag? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: So to your what's your question to me? Who's the
Speaker 2: last god bubble?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who's the last time? Did you'll know this because you
Speaker 2: fall this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who?
Speaker 2: I mean? For you, Henry, who's the last person the
Speaker 2: best college player I've ever watched him?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really? Okay?
Speaker 4: And there's I don't know if that you can especially
Speaker 4: in his life lifetime. I don't think you can argue that.
Speaker 2: You know, because you're twenty something and you've bobably been
Speaker 2: following since you're twelve or whatever. Paid attention, right, not
Speaker 2: the stats, but the way he controls the game exactly.
Speaker 2: He's the He's on a chessboard, he's the he could
Speaker 2: do whatever you want, you can move wherever you wanted to.
Speaker 2: So growing up, like I say, Larry Bird to me,
Speaker 2: you know, Lebron didn't go to college Carmelo. I mean
Speaker 2: he had that great stretch. I didn't cover Sean, but
Speaker 2: he was Sean. Here was I tweeted last night. I
Speaker 2: don't think you and I our tweet Twitter friends, right
Speaker 2: or whatever, And I said, I've been covering this team
Speaker 2: since ninety one, day to day under Loot, a little
Speaker 2: day to day under Sean, and a little day to
Speaker 2: day under Tommy. But I only remember three dudes taking
Speaker 2: over like Caleb did last night. Kalid a time or two,
Speaker 2: but not to this degree. Uh Salim every now and again.
Speaker 2: And David Sanomar. Oh, you just give him the ball
Speaker 2: and get the hell out.
Speaker 3: Of the way.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess maybe this is a better question because
Speaker 4: you've been around the game and you've seen so many
Speaker 4: games for the University of Arizona, what what performance would
Speaker 4: you put up there with kleb b loves Oh.
Speaker 2: The first thing that comes to my is two. There's
Speaker 2: two Khalid's game against Michigan when he had I think
Speaker 2: it was forty three here in the in the Little
Speaker 2: Wlson Classic or the fest About Classic ninety four, ninety three,
Speaker 2: ninety four I won. And two when Damon went for
Speaker 2: forty two forty two against Stanford over there, I think
Speaker 2: it was overtime and he just took control of the
Speaker 2: game and won the game for u A against a
Speaker 2: damn a good Stanford team. Would you put Derek Williams
Speaker 2: in there for the last time they played Duke? Yeah?
Speaker 3: See?
Speaker 2: And I wasn't there. It's one of the games I
Speaker 2: did not go to, probably probably in fact, as I
Speaker 2: was waiting for quotes last night and the press converence,
Speaker 2: I flipped on YouTube and that game and then that's
Speaker 2: when the second half happened, and Derek was like dunking
Speaker 2: and having this great moments and they were getting away
Speaker 2: from Duke. Maybe maybe, but I can't remember it specifically
Speaker 2: because I was not there. So the two first few
Speaker 2: examples you gave were during well, I mean one was
Speaker 2: a preseason tournament, one was regular season right for who
Speaker 2: glid Reve was a festible class again so.
Speaker 4: Preseason tournament for pre conference tournament right, and then in
Speaker 4: the Dame it was during So but I mean to
Speaker 4: do this in a Sweet sixteen performance against which, now
Speaker 4: that I've seen Duke, I'm I'm a little disapointed. I
Speaker 4: picked Houston to win the whole thing because I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's I still think I do
Speaker 4: you do I do Florida or Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe anyway Florida. I play Florida
Speaker 2: and I still think they're the better team. Houston. I
Speaker 2: love Houston. I love Houston because they're I think if
Speaker 2: they played Duke they can rough them up.
Speaker 3: They can.
Speaker 2: I thought Arizona would be able to do some of that.
Speaker 2: It just didn't enough. I don't think you had this.
Speaker 2: I don't think you. I don't know if you've had
Speaker 2: this size to do it. I think they did the
Speaker 2: best they possibly could with what they had. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: did you say about the game? About the game in
Speaker 2: terms of I was on a plate computer game all season.
Speaker 2: By the way they played offensive, I mean, I I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can disagree with it. I mean
Speaker 2: you hang ninety three points on a Duke team that
Speaker 2: hasn't given up. Seventy eight was the highest. Yeah so,
Speaker 2: and I mean like it's it's ridiculous, and you still
Speaker 2: could have gotten better played from a couple of people.
Speaker 4: I think there was a couple open threes down that stretch. Now,
Speaker 4: you're not going to make him all the time Duke made.
Speaker 4: I thought most of, if not all their open looks
Speaker 4: from three point land, and I think we missed three
Speaker 4: of our last four down the stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, let's go because Todd's gonna call. We'd have
Speaker 2: Todd hold House at three seventeen and Pete Williams at
Speaker 2: four seventeen today, So let's go.
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Speaker 1: On Blox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Wind the Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Bava and with me today is
Speaker 2: break Eager and we have Henriette to control boards. Now
Speaker 2: on the phone, we have Todd Holdouse from pem UP
Speaker 2: Women's Basketball. Todd, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine? Thank you. Congratulations on what it was
Speaker 2: a fantastic season.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was Yeah, it was. It was fantastic.
Speaker 5: I think that it was something that as time goes by,
Speaker 5: you just look back and you're just going to be
Speaker 5: even more proud of it, you know, realizing all the
Speaker 5: things that were accomplished and what we did last week
Speaker 5: was truly incredible.
Speaker 2: Do you how can I say this? Is it a
Speaker 2: great high where it takes you a while to come
Speaker 2: down from? Or do you have like two days and
Speaker 2: then you have to worry about next year?
Speaker 5: No, it's it's taken me a few days, just because
Speaker 5: it's so intense for you know, for a week. So
Speaker 5: we played four games in six days, and so the
Speaker 5: more you're winning, obviously, the higher this and the more
Speaker 5: pressure you put on yourself to make sure the kids
Speaker 5: are ready. And so once I got home Sunday night,
Speaker 5: my wife can attest to the fact that it's taken
Speaker 5: me till about today to kind of get back up
Speaker 5: and get moving.
Speaker 3: And as much as you want to, you're just drained.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, probably it's a good feeling though, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like it was because you just
Speaker 5: left it all out there and so that's a great feeling.
Speaker 5: And now we'll celebrate it in a few ways and
Speaker 5: then we'll get ready for next year.
Speaker 2: So just real quick before Blake comes in, is it
Speaker 2: a kind of a I don't know, a depressing feeling too,
Speaker 2: where all this excitement in those six days and even
Speaker 2: leading up to that the six days, and then you
Speaker 2: finally realize, what am I going to do? Now? I
Speaker 2: have no game to go to.
Speaker 15: No.
Speaker 5: It totally is like that, and I think it's like
Speaker 5: that for coaches and for players because you just get
Speaker 5: used to a certain routine and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's just all over and.
Speaker 3: You never plan on an ending. Now.
Speaker 5: The nice part is we knew that Saturday night was
Speaker 5: going to be our last game no matter what, So
Speaker 5: that part of it's kind of satisfying. But then you know,
Speaker 5: come Monday morning, you don't have weights, you don't have conditioning,
Speaker 5: you don't have study table do You just kind of
Speaker 5: look around and the normalcy has been disrupted. And so
Speaker 5: I think it takes not just the coaches. I know
Speaker 5: the players are so used to that structure. It just
Speaker 5: takes a few a few days to kind of get
Speaker 5: through it. And then you kind of you know, we'll
Speaker 5: start doing some preseason stuff in the spring and the
Speaker 5: sophomores that want to join us are obviously going to
Speaker 5: be welcome to come in participate too, because they're athletes
Speaker 5: and they want to you know, they're they're just used
Speaker 5: to things a certain way.
Speaker 2: Hey, Todd, this is Blake.
Speaker 4: I ended up having a coffee with Edgar Soto yesterday
Speaker 4: and he was just singing your praises, and I just
Speaker 4: want to say congratulations in the season.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 4: The run that you guys had and what you were
Speaker 4: able to do is uh, it's monumental for the not
Speaker 4: only for the city, of the community and and hopefully
Speaker 4: for your future athletes.
Speaker 2: So I do have a question.
Speaker 4: And then you're being into it and you're you're in
Speaker 4: that routine and you're going and every single day you
Speaker 4: wake up and you understand what the end goal is,
Speaker 4: or you hope you understand what the end goal is.
Speaker 4: Did you have a chance during this run to step
Speaker 4: back and kind of take it all in.
Speaker 5: I don't think as coaches you allow yourself to because
Speaker 5: we were we had such good momentum going that I
Speaker 5: didn't want to be the guy that screwed it up.
Speaker 5: So we uh, we got rolling after our you know,
Speaker 5: our last loss, was at Scottsdale, and I think it
Speaker 5: was twelve or thirteen games ago, and at that point
Speaker 5: we kind of had like our looking in the mirror
Speaker 5: meeting because we had lost back to back. We lost
Speaker 5: Ta Mesa and Scottsdale back to back, and you know,
Speaker 5: the point is to try to be playing your best
Speaker 5: at the end of the year.
Speaker 3: And it was after that loss at Scottsdale that I just.
Speaker 5: Kind of had everybody kind of evaluate themselves, not so
Speaker 5: much other people, but really evaluate ourselves and decide.
Speaker 3: What we want to do going forward.
Speaker 5: Because as coaches, we knew what we were capable of,
Speaker 5: and so just taking that moment to kind of reflect
Speaker 5: and move forward was probably the spurning point of our season.
Speaker 5: And then you know, you don't allow yourself to stop
Speaker 5: while it's going, and you know how superstitious coaches are.
Speaker 5: If you get into a rhythm, you don't want to
Speaker 5: be a guy that screws it up. So yeah, we
Speaker 5: just kept going. I've never heard of superstition before. Is
Speaker 5: that a thing we talked about that two days ago?
Speaker 5: You kept talking about your superstitions because it'll screw it up.
Speaker 5: But Todd as you as you had that self reflections
Speaker 5: a few games ago, twelve games ago, did you find
Speaker 5: out something different or something more that you didn't know
Speaker 5: about this team?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it was good good for them.
Speaker 5: I think I knew what we were capable of, but
Speaker 5: I don't play, so it's up to the kids to
Speaker 5: figure it out. And what I told them that day
Speaker 5: is that the stuff that we go through each day
Speaker 5: is tough, and so you just have to be tough.
Speaker 5: And everybody had to be just a little bit tougher
Speaker 5: and a little bit tougher together. And once they started rolling,
Speaker 5: they kind of got into a nice rhythm and rotations
Speaker 5: got figured out, so everybody got comfortable in their role
Speaker 5: and it just kind of kept building, you know, And
Speaker 5: last week was kind of the climax of it, because,
Speaker 5: you know, we were seeded sixth, but along the way,
Speaker 5: you know, we beat we beat the ten seed, we
Speaker 5: beat the sixth or the three seed, then we beat
Speaker 5: the two seed, and for the championship they had to
Speaker 5: play the four seed. But we were definitely playing our
Speaker 5: best basketball at the end of the year, and I
Speaker 5: think it was because the kids kind of looked at
Speaker 5: each other and decided that, you know, we have the talent.
Speaker 5: Now it's good about all the little intangible things and
Speaker 5: accountability things, and so I was just proud of them,
Speaker 5: because for a group of twenty year olds to figure
Speaker 5: that out, it doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 4: I was asking, I asked Brian Peabody a couple of
Speaker 4: days the same question, At what point did you know
Speaker 4: that this group was special?
Speaker 5: I think I knew that point when we went up
Speaker 5: to Masa on February twenty second, and they had beaten
Speaker 5: us the previous two times, and so in our conference
Speaker 5: you play everybody three times, and so this is our
Speaker 5: third time in the regular season against Mesa and they
Speaker 5: were two and aero against us going in there, but
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden their place, it just kind
Speaker 5: of all came together, and you guys know that our
Speaker 5: story rivalry between Mesa and US goes back, you know,
Speaker 5: as long as I've been here. And it was that
Speaker 5: moment where they looked at each other after the buzzer
Speaker 5: went off and we had defeated Masa at Mesa, they
Speaker 5: knew what they were capable of, and then to go
Speaker 5: up there on the region championship game and beat them
Speaker 5: again at their place really sealed the deal, because you know,
Speaker 5: we beat them at their place for a region championship
Speaker 5: and got cut down their nets, and I think that
Speaker 5: first win at mesa kind of clicked in for them
Speaker 5: and they realized what they were capable of.
Speaker 2: How does this run and the success that you've had
Speaker 2: recently specific to this year, though, how does this make
Speaker 2: you guys move forward? I'm assuming that maybe you'll get
Speaker 2: calls from people you never heard from before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm sure Brian is the same way. The
Speaker 5: more success we have, I won't say the easier it
Speaker 5: is to recruit, but it definitely makes the quality of
Speaker 5: recruits better because they understand and they see what we
Speaker 5: do on a yearly basis and they want to be
Speaker 5: part of that.
Speaker 3: So that part of it's easier.
Speaker 5: And then you know, as coaches, we get to be
Speaker 5: a little bit more selective in terms of the types
Speaker 5: of kids we want to bring in. We don't have
Speaker 5: to rush to sign kids. We can kind of wait
Speaker 5: our turn and you know, wait for them to kind
Speaker 5: of come to us because the portal makes everything a
Speaker 5: little bit crazy. So now you have two went to
Speaker 5: four year schools out of high school. It didn't like
Speaker 5: their freshman year or didn't play their freshman year that
Speaker 5: are maybe looking for another start. So you know, it
Speaker 5: kind of has changed how we recruit, you know, in
Speaker 5: this modern era of the portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Brian benefited from that with Marley for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So okay, do you have you done that too or no?
Speaker 3: Not yet, not to that extent.
Speaker 5: I think women basketball players, I don't think they jump
Speaker 5: into the portal as quick.
Speaker 3: As guys do.
Speaker 5: I think they think they value their education and they
Speaker 5: want to make sure that if they do go in
Speaker 5: the portal that it's not going to set them back
Speaker 5: with their academics as well. So we've had a couple.
Speaker 3: I mean Kylie.
Speaker 5: Kylie wasn't necessarily a portal kid, but she was gonna
Speaker 5: go D one out of high school and then kind
Speaker 5: of sat back and said, you know what, the rat
Speaker 5: race is a little crazy. I'm gonna go to Juco
Speaker 5: and get at my footing underneath me. And then you know,
Speaker 5: she went out and had an amazing year this year.
Speaker 5: So we've benefited, maybe not directly from the portal, but
Speaker 5: the existence of the portal.
Speaker 2: Probably we've got to call it's I think it's a
Speaker 2: d on the line. She wants to disagree with you
Speaker 2: with the women jumping into the portal just real quick.
Speaker 2: So are you a better coach now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think I'm I've gotten better over the years. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you're compared to me that I'm a
Speaker 5: better coach now than I first started, I think. And
Speaker 5: I think the big reason for that is I've had
Speaker 5: daughters now that have grown up, so I learned a lot.
Speaker 2: That's bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've learned a lot being a dad of young
Speaker 5: females and them, you know, kind of cluing me into
Speaker 5: certain things that different between men and women. And obviously
Speaker 5: I got to coach Analyst the last couple of years,
Speaker 5: which was magical, and I'll always cherish those memories too.
Speaker 2: Well what inside, because that's bardy very true, right you
Speaker 2: get Yeah, you have one, so you know you know
Speaker 2: a little more and they dad.
Speaker 5: This absolutely And I like coaching like and I always
Speaker 5: I always tried, like I want to. I want to
Speaker 5: learn too, So I don't ever want to get to
Speaker 5: a point where I'm just content and think I know
Speaker 5: it all about basketball. I think the fun part for
Speaker 5: both Brian and I each year is that is essentially
Speaker 5: a new chemistry experiment every year. And so you're flopping
Speaker 5: out at least half your roster usually. Yeah, and to
Speaker 5: maintain success over eighteen years, uh is rewarding. I think
Speaker 5: I like the wins and losses, but when I look back,
Speaker 5: it'll be it'll be gratifying to know that we were
Speaker 5: relevant for you know, twenty years and and then region
Speaker 5: championship all those years. And so just the ability to
Speaker 5: adapt to a you know, the climate has been a
Speaker 5: lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ton you just said something that I don't think a
Speaker 4: lot of people can grasp is that you essentially lose
Speaker 4: half your roster every year. Right, so if you're a
Speaker 4: four year coach, you might turn over you know, three
Speaker 4: maybe five people. I mean, you're turning over half the roster.
Speaker 4: How do you deal with that year in and year out?
Speaker 4: Do you have a formula that you try to go
Speaker 4: into the season with and end the season with or
Speaker 4: does it just change from a year in to year out?
Speaker 2: Basis.
Speaker 5: I always like to explain it, like we have a
Speaker 5: certain philosophy, Like there's certain things we like to do
Speaker 5: and want to be really good at that being like
Speaker 5: half courtman defense, and we want to push the ball.
Speaker 5: And then you know, I have great assistant coach. Pete
Speaker 5: Fajardo is what I would call my recruiting coordinator, and
Speaker 5: Pete and I have been together for twelve years now,
Speaker 5: and he just loves going out and going to tournaments
Speaker 5: and watching high school games, AAU games, and we look
Speaker 5: for certain types of kids and he kind of identifies
Speaker 5: them and then we, you know, bring him down to visit.
Speaker 3: We always try to. I always categorize.
Speaker 5: Myself as when it comes to recruit the more of
Speaker 5: a sniper than a shotgun guy, where I'd like to
Speaker 5: pick out the kids that we want to be part
Speaker 5: of our program as opposed to offer a bunch of kids,
Speaker 5: and then it's first come, first serve, And so we've
Speaker 5: kind of developed that as our formula. But obviously we
Speaker 5: stick to our philosophy of good man defense, rebound strong,
Speaker 5: and push the tempo. And then as we get the
Speaker 5: kids in, we may tinker some of our offensive sets,
Speaker 5: and we might do some things differently on defense in
Speaker 5: certain instances, but for the most part, that's kind of
Speaker 5: our formula.
Speaker 4: How involved are you with your outgoing sophomores and their
Speaker 4: recruitment process for the next next level?
Speaker 3: Super involved? In fact, I probably sent out about.
Speaker 5: Four hundred emails today just for our sophomores that want
Speaker 5: to go on now, because not all of them want
Speaker 5: to go on, but the ones that do want to
Speaker 5: go on, I want to them Holmes, because that's their future.
Speaker 5: And so I take a great deal of pride in
Speaker 5: watching those kids go on and use basketball as a
Speaker 5: tool to get out of college with less loans, with
Speaker 5: a degree, so that they can go back to wherever
Speaker 5: it is they want to go and produce, you know,
Speaker 5: what they want to do in life. And so I
Speaker 5: take a great deal of pride in it, and I
Speaker 5: work hard at it, and we've been at it a
Speaker 5: long time. So the nice part is PIMA has a
Speaker 5: good reputation in terms of the type of kids we
Speaker 5: put out every year, and so college coaches, four year coaches,
Speaker 5: really value that and they know what kind of kid
Speaker 5: they're getting when they get a PEMA kid.
Speaker 4: I know that sounds like a silly question because I
Speaker 4: think the general public just expects that to happen. But
Speaker 4: as a kid that played at a junior college, I'm
Speaker 4: a juco athlete. My juco coach didn't help me at all.
Speaker 4: I don't think he ever made a phone call for me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know he picked up the phone to
Speaker 4: tell Scouts not to draft me because Scout's told me
Speaker 4: after my sophomore year.
Speaker 2: Really, so like for.
Speaker 4: People don't realize is Todd what you do is incredible.
Speaker 4: And those athletes later on in life, when they become
Speaker 4: a full blown adult and hopefully mature, which I'm still
Speaker 4: trying to do, we have a lot of people to
Speaker 4: think or not a ton of people to think in
Speaker 4: our lives for our career path or our life path.
Speaker 4: You are one of those people. And from a Juco athlete,
Speaker 4: I want to say thank you for that, because it
Speaker 4: takes a lot of it takes a special person to
Speaker 4: do that. So what you're doing is incredible, Todd, and
Speaker 4: I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that I too was a Juco kid, and
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be where I am without Coach Mason at
Speaker 5: Waldorf College in Iowa if he wouldn't have taken a
Speaker 5: chance on a skinny high school senior in Iowa that
Speaker 5: was far from being fully developed, and so he took
Speaker 5: a chance on me. And because of that, I learned
Speaker 5: the value of junior college and what it can do.
Speaker 5: And I think that I'm never going to be rich,
Speaker 5: but I hope that I can make the world a
Speaker 5: little bit better by producing good people. So that's kind
Speaker 5: of a whole mission behind us.
Speaker 2: That's that's nice, that's let me ask you a dumb question.
Speaker 2: But it's just an optionality from my past. So Arizona,
Speaker 2: and you know I've covered Arizona forever. So they win
Speaker 2: the title in ninety seven and no one thought possible.
Speaker 2: They don't do it in ninety eight when you thought
Speaker 2: it was possible. But in two thousand and one they
Speaker 2: finished second with a great team and a great run.
Speaker 2: But no one talks about two thousand and one, right,
Speaker 2: even though I think that's the best team that ever
Speaker 2: Arizona ever had. Now you finished second, is it a
Speaker 2: disappointment that you didn't win at all? How do you
Speaker 2: think eventually when in ten years that the team will
Speaker 2: be looked at?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the thing that I know for a
Speaker 5: fact is the group that went through it, all the team,
Speaker 5: the coaches, the managers, athletic personnel, they'll they'll always value it.
Speaker 5: And so for me, that's all I really need to know.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think as I was sitting there
Speaker 5: Saturday getting ready for the game. This is the second
Speaker 5: national championship I've been in, and we came up short
Speaker 5: in twenty eleven as well, But I never looked back
Speaker 5: and regretted it. I mean, I wanted it to I
Speaker 5: wanted to win because I wanted to see I wanted
Speaker 5: to see the kids cut down a net and just
Speaker 5: like the unbelievable joy that that would get to give
Speaker 5: team of their first national championship in women's basketball.
Speaker 3: And so that part of it's a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 5: But I know for a fact that these ladies walked
Speaker 5: away with so much pride and a sense of accomplishment
Speaker 5: that that's good enough for me. Now, one of these days,
Speaker 5: I hope we do win it, because I'm tired of
Speaker 5: coming close. So competitor, the competitor in me is gonna
Speaker 5: keep going. But I also know that the value of
Speaker 5: the memories that the kids made, you know, last week,
Speaker 5: will always stick with them.
Speaker 2: Well to that point, I talked to Cosgroove a lot.
Speaker 2: Obviously he's had a lot of great success, won a
Speaker 2: couple of national titles, and I said this to Brian,
Speaker 2: I think on Monday, you're a car salesman. You sold
Speaker 2: ten cars twenty cars this month, you got to do?
Speaker 2: What do you got to do the next month? Twenty two?
Speaker 2: Twenty five cars?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So you finished second? How do you repeat something like
Speaker 2: this because you felt the joy and the pain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the good part is that we have kids
Speaker 5: coming back that were a big part of coming that close,
Speaker 5: So they'll be hungry. And I think that the kids
Speaker 5: that we have already signed for next year and the
Speaker 5: few that we have left to sign will have to
Speaker 5: fall in line in terms of what expectations we set.
Speaker 5: Because the thing that I learned most more than anything
Speaker 5: last week was that we're just as talented as anybody there.
Speaker 5: And so there's nobody, there's nobody that's without, you know,
Speaker 5: not within our reach, you know. And Ethics was the
Speaker 5: two seed, and we played them in the semi finals
Speaker 5: and they were averaging ninety five a game, and they
Speaker 5: thought they were world beaters, and they only had one
Speaker 5: loss going into the game. But the kids found a
Speaker 5: way to come back from seven down and with fifty
Speaker 5: two seconds left to tie it up and send it
Speaker 5: to overtime. And so just that belief in knowing that
Speaker 5: you're that close and you're good enough to do it
Speaker 5: will fuel us next year.
Speaker 2: Well, no, fantastic, tog. Congratulations again.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I love I love getting on here
Speaker 5: with you guys, So I appreciate it. I love being
Speaker 5: from Tucson. I love representing Tucson. So they have a
Speaker 5: pretty special thing in our in our city. So it's
Speaker 5: always fun.
Speaker 3: Great.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Tom. Yeah, thanks Matt.
Speaker 3: Oh, appreciate you guys. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to My the Ball here on Fox
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Speaker 2: is Blake Eager from.
Speaker 4: Southern Arizona Sports Tourism and film authority, and we got
Speaker 4: Henry from.
Speaker 2: His mama, New York, New York. Hey, if you guys
Speaker 2: want to call and talk about last night's game, even
Speaker 2: the naysayer vic Vic, I didn't hear from you last night,
Speaker 2: so I guess the game was okay for you. You
Speaker 2: want to give me a quick call because ck Vic
Speaker 2: is the one that kind.
Speaker 3: Of what the hell?
Speaker 4: Oh, he's just always angry, just always, you know, what
Speaker 4: the hell? Turnover here because he just satisfied. Only if
Speaker 4: they win by twenty points yesterday he can send me
Speaker 4: a go Cats. You know he's all happy. Call him
Speaker 4: mister front runner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe he needs to move to the
Speaker 2: city up north and fair a fair Weather fan. He'll
Speaker 2: never do that, You'll never do because he loves the Cats.
Speaker 2: He loves the cats, but you know, and there's a
Speaker 2: few others obviously, right who. I didn't see very many
Speaker 2: bad comments last day from the game, because you usually say, ah,
Speaker 2: this is companying, this is not happening, YadA YadA, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I didn't. Maybe I didn't see it often enough
Speaker 2: or check off enough, but there were very few, very
Speaker 2: few things said that went bad. I mean, uh, what
Speaker 2: what would you have decided? I mean KG was being kJ, yeah,
Speaker 2: but defensively he was. I mean, what do you what
Speaker 2: do you want from? I mean that is who he is? Right,
Speaker 2: So when you say love is love, kJ is KG? Right,
Speaker 2: right right? You gotta take with the good with the bad. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta call who's this? You're on the on the air?
Speaker 15: Well, Steve, you bind me lunch?
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 15: You gave me points?
Speaker 2: No no no no, no, no no no. I told
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Speaker 2: to move into the foothills, sir. I told, I told
Speaker 2: everybody who listened, and I wrote a story, and I
Speaker 2: wrote a story yesterday that Arizona covers most of the time.
Speaker 2: I think I think they've they've covered thirteen now, thirteen
Speaker 2: of eighteen, and anybody who is smart enough to take
Speaker 2: the points got some money.
Speaker 15: So you what you're telling me is you're not going
Speaker 15: to honor your art.
Speaker 3: Bet No.
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is is as you're making
Speaker 2: up stories. I have a witness here. You did you
Speaker 2: didn't say double or nothing? Last time? We couldn't figure
Speaker 2: out that was what was war. Yeah, we didn't know
Speaker 2: what the hell you were talking about. It also points
Speaker 2: out that you don't pay attention to anything I say,
Speaker 2: which is sad.
Speaker 15: Oh come on now, brother, I love you anyway.
Speaker 3: Actually, hey, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what I was dismissed the flag. This
Speaker 15: kid is a baller, yeah, and I am, and I'm
Speaker 15: you know, if he were to stay one more year,
Speaker 15: he could make a ton of money with then I am.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, no, he's gonna make a ton. He's the
Speaker 2: first overall pick. Yeah, he's the number one pick. He's
Speaker 2: gonna make a ton.
Speaker 15: I know he's the first overall pick. But if you
Speaker 15: put this in perspective, you realize how much better he's
Speaker 15: what eighteen, barely eighteen years old. No, he can't even
Speaker 15: go he can't even go out with the guys and
Speaker 15: have a beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, he won't be able to do that
Speaker 2: next year. Either. But let me tell you here's the question.
Speaker 2: What about Kobe Bryant. What's he gonna do? Kobell him?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Carter What I think Kobe?
Speaker 3: Kobe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Carter Bright, I don't think, maybe a psychic. I
Speaker 4: don't think we know what he's gonna do. I apologize,
Speaker 4: Carter Bright.
Speaker 15: You have a media in there. Yes, I think, in
Speaker 15: all seriousness, I think one more year would do him
Speaker 15: a ton of good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're really doing Yeah.
Speaker 15: I think he needs to physically, he needs to build
Speaker 15: up and then another five ten pounds and defensively. And
Speaker 15: somebody pointed out something really important and I don't forget
Speaker 15: where I read it, but it was about the fact
Speaker 15: is in Europe they play a lot. They played, you know,
Speaker 15: club ball all the time, and they learn how to pick.
Speaker 15: And Duke did an amazing job on the pick and
Speaker 15: rolls and the you know, making themselves available and putting
Speaker 15: up a strong pick for their guys to break in.
Speaker 15: I think that was real evident when you look at
Speaker 15: the way they played that game, they played like it
Speaker 15: was almost European club ball. Versus college ball last night.
Speaker 15: They were very, very impressive. You got to tip your
Speaker 15: hat and you know, appreciate what the Cats gave Tucson.
Speaker 15: They really we have a lot to be proud of.
Speaker 2: I think that's the way it should be today and
Speaker 2: moving forward. Right, Okay, thanks for thanks.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Still try to pride me out of a lunch? I
Speaker 2: know I don't. Does he have a Have you ever
Speaker 2: taken him to lunch?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's paid. Well, he paid because he lost the
Speaker 2: bet to me. Oh so you only you only sure
Speaker 2: up when you no, no, no, have lost time? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm putting on my text. He owned me so much.
Speaker 4: Oh you're claiming hasn't a Yeah, so we just said
Speaker 4: something interesting. So to get back to Carter Bryant, I
Speaker 4: almost said Kobe as well? Uh does he stay for
Speaker 4: another year? Because I mean you think about the great
Speaker 4: signing that we just had yesterday morning. Who's coming is
Speaker 4: co o Pete? I mean that was listen. I I
Speaker 4: my my cousin and my dad and my uncle because
Speaker 4: we're in a group chat. And the whole year I've
Speaker 4: been like swooning over this kid, right because if you
Speaker 4: if you watch any of his tape. It's unbelievable but
Speaker 4: very similar player and Carter Bryant and co A Pete.
Speaker 4: So do you think Carter Bryant stays?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he's guaranteed to go in the top fifteen, you
Speaker 2: got to go. If he goes in the top twenty five,
Speaker 2: maybe you stay. I'm sure he's getting a ton of
Speaker 2: money for next year. How much money is actually a
Speaker 2: lot of money? And how much do you really need
Speaker 2: right here? Be a sophomore? Realistically, he probably should come back.
Speaker 2: He should come back. How much stock he'll improve is
Speaker 2: anybody's guessed because the NBA values potential and he has
Speaker 2: all that, right, and are there and we I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've seen a lot of college ball, but
Speaker 2: but are there twenty better people better than him in college?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: And you're talking, you're talking from a you're talking from
Speaker 2: an NBA standpoint, So you're you're going off ceiling. What's
Speaker 2: the ceiling?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I think he probably argually as one of the highest
Speaker 2: ceilings in college top twenty yeah, right, right, and he
Speaker 2: hasn't reached it. Obviously that was not even happening there
Speaker 2: probably no I.
Speaker 4: Think he you know, you're probably looking at sixty percent
Speaker 4: fifty five to sixty percent of what Carter Bryant can
Speaker 4: possibly be. It's a tough conversation to have, right, I
Speaker 4: do think you have a lot of areas to improve.
Speaker 4: You've's got to be one of the best colleges for development.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's an argument there. Maybe you try
Speaker 4: to argue that. I think, if I'm a college athlete
Speaker 4: or high school athlete and I'm looking to develop, and
Speaker 4: I know that I have another step in my game,
Speaker 4: uve's got to be in my top five schools that
Speaker 4: I would go to.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, I think, maybe correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. Guys, he came here with the intention,
Speaker 2: or at least not with his intention, but our observations
Speaker 2: were that he was going to be won and done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what I mean from the get go.
Speaker 4: I think he went for He was anywhere from six
Speaker 4: to twelve when he stepped.
Speaker 2: On came okay, So that probably hasn't changed. At least
Speaker 2: the perceptions are or that he's going to leave rather
Speaker 2: than stay. Right, So there's that if he leaves, no
Speaker 2: one should be upset because that's what the projection was.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can get upset with athletes anymore
Speaker 4: in this day and age. Whether he goes into I
Speaker 4: mean even if you went into the transfer portal, which
Speaker 4: I would think would be kind of silly, but that
Speaker 4: would be a money thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's such a weird time frame for college athletes at
Speaker 4: this point. But if he does stay and you have
Speaker 4: co opete, then do you you think kJ leaves them?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I don't kJ. No, No, what's he going to do?
Speaker 2: I mean unless he gets more money? And that's the
Speaker 2: sad part of it, because somebody else is going to
Speaker 2: lure you away with more money. And at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, is that really what you want to do?
Speaker 2: Happiness for money? Yes, I guess when you're in nineteen twenty.
Speaker 2: Are you asking a nineteen year old blue that on
Speaker 2: question where I grew up? Yeah, I'm asking a forty
Speaker 2: two year old Blake, which I mean no, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: You don't need to say my age out loud because
Speaker 2: you could be right or you could be wrong. Just
Speaker 2: gonna say, but you don't want to throw me under
Speaker 2: the bus. Uh, sixty year old Steve, I don't know
Speaker 2: why you start over when you have what you have
Speaker 2: here and people trust you and people love you.
Speaker 4: It's the same conversation we have with Sean Miller right
Speaker 4: leaving to Texas. And I get that, you get it,
Speaker 4: but I mean, Xavier took you a second gave you
Speaker 4: a second chance at a coaching op.
Speaker 2: You would you date. Here's here's my analogy for the
Speaker 2: Kobe thing and that Kobe thing the Carter thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's probably a dumb analogy, but Okay, you meet
Speaker 2: the supermodel, you meet the supermodel, and you know that,
Speaker 2: uh that, but you know that you and your date,
Speaker 2: but you know that she's gonna cheat on you and
Speaker 2: leave you after nine months. And Carter is that situation.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna get them for one year and
Speaker 2: possibly leave you for do you do Dater?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a strange analogy to put towards college athletes.
Speaker 4: But but you understand what I'm saying is that super
Speaker 4: model gonna give me a better chance of winning a
Speaker 4: national championship.
Speaker 2: It's gonna make you look good. Then you probably you
Speaker 2: probably take that chance. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 4: weird it's a weird time frame. I've said it multiple times.
Speaker 4: I keep saying it over and again, but I'm so
Speaker 4: excited for what we just had in this season. And
Speaker 4: I know the reason why I don't want it to
Speaker 4: end because I've watched this team grow and grow and grow,
Speaker 4: and then as soon as it's done, the conversation turns
Speaker 4: into who's leaving.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, come on here, good point. Let me
Speaker 2: say this because last night it was like five minutes
Speaker 2: after the game and I started seeing that who's staying
Speaker 2: and who's going.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking people don't know how to enjoy the moment,
Speaker 4: enjoy the moment, step back and watch what just happen.
Speaker 4: That's why I was asking Todd earlier. At any point
Speaker 4: and from a coaching standpoint, I know it's really difficult,
Speaker 4: but there's got to be a time where you take
Speaker 4: five minutes to yourself and you step back and you go, man,
Speaker 4: this was pretty incredible what we were able to do,
Speaker 4: or this is pretty incredible what we're able to do
Speaker 4: right now in this moment. But you're right, I mean
Speaker 4: five minutes after the game where I mean, there's a
Speaker 4: group text that I'm in that people are like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: who's leaving now? Because CoA Pete's coming in and it's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to think about that, you know. I
Speaker 4: want to enjoy this team for what this team was,
Speaker 4: uh and for what they gave us as fans. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: so we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. We're moving forward. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: else yesterday was?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Anybody should be a national holiday?
Speaker 4: There you go, and you know what else happened yesterday
Speaker 4: is MLB the app and the MLB TV.
Speaker 2: What's it working?
Speaker 3: So we go?
Speaker 4: I tell you, I go in my dad's house every year.
Speaker 4: I've done it since we were like, I mean took
Speaker 4: me out of school when I was twelve. I think
Speaker 4: probably actually elementary school, so I was younger than that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: We have we have friends that come over to the
Speaker 4: house to watch the games, and we're sitting there trying
Speaker 4: to get the Guardians game on. And MLB completely doesn't
Speaker 4: work on opening day, Like what is what's happening? Like
Speaker 4: you literally even spend your whole off season. I'm preparing
Speaker 4: for this one moment and then nothing. So I know, Steve,
Speaker 4: You're not a baseball guy. So no, I am a
Speaker 4: baseball guy. He's just not as much as you are.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because you don't like baseball players, which is
Speaker 2: strange that I'm here. What are you talking about? Baseball player?
Speaker 2: We were talking about from a just a next Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming when you said that the JC guys didn't
Speaker 2: didn't the Jayse coaches didn't endorse you, you must have been.
Speaker 4: Okay, I would say you're correct, So I would. I
Speaker 4: would more, I wouldn't normally say that. Here's my argument
Speaker 4: against it. Todd Engelheart, who's still the head coach at
Speaker 4: Coaches College, is the one that helped me get recruited
Speaker 4: and helped me get to the Northwood Summer League that
Speaker 4: put me on a national attention level. Like, so, if
Speaker 4: I was a pay in the butt, maybe I was.
Speaker 4: Other coaches wanted to help me, just not my own.
Speaker 4: So maybe you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Funny story though, I mean, my junior year, the Saint
Speaker 4: Louis Cardinals scout called me and was talking to me
Speaker 4: and he was like, yeah, I want to draft you
Speaker 4: last year, but your head coach told me. Your coach
Speaker 4: at Eastern told me not to. And I was like,
Speaker 4: it'd been nice to like know, why did you ever
Speaker 4: talk to him again?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I have no interest, really no interests. Yeah, I'm still
Speaker 4: run and I still deal with Eastern a lot. Like
Speaker 4: I still give a lot of credit to Eastern Arizona College,
Speaker 4: like phenomenal. I love thatcher, I love that area. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll never have a conversation with him again. Okay, let's
Speaker 4: go come back, do some breaking news yep.