WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:04.000 I was hipping the subs to the fact that my 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:06.799 manuscript is finished. For a practical purposes, I'm just trying 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:08.800 to wrap it up. But I was talking about it's difficult. 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:14.279 It's difficult to wrap up a long form academic body 5 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:18.000 of work in a way that isn't abrupt or that seems, 6 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:23.760 you know, properly organic and readable. And frankly, there's a lot. 7 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:29.280 There's a lot in this book. It's about three hundred pages. 8 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:30.879 It will probably be more like two undred and eight 9 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:34.799 or two hundred and ninety when it's completely added in 10 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:39.320 the stuff. But it's pretty It deals basically the entire 11 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.399 of the twentieth century. And I think, whether I want 12 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.520 to or not, I tend to write like a lawyer 13 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.719 in terms of the way I present authorities and stuff. 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:53.280 And that's good and bad. It's times towards revity while 15 00:00:53.280 --> 00:01:01.960 also cramming a lot into relatively relatively brief value. But 16 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.359 you know it, I think it. I don't want to 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:08.280 make things hard on the reader, but my things are 18 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.239 getting done, you know, like I this has been another 19 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.680 hard week, man, you know, like, well, I'm having trouble 20 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:17.519 getting around and stuff. I'm not trying to play Jesus. 21 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.359 But I don't want people to think I'm just like 22 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.319 fucking off and not doing things. But I'm going to 23 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.400 record at burn tomorrow morning because we're getting back to 24 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.920 rear his Chicago. I took a week off from it 25 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.159 because there wasn't much in the news cycle. I mean 26 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.719 reading in the lines, there's definitely things of power political 27 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:36.159 nature aflip, but the purpose of radio reach of Cargo 28 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.480 is to push it back on regime magic prop sort 29 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.040 of in it directly and in terms of like a 30 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.879 director abuttle. I don't just like a riff on of things, 31 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.200 you know. I mean, I got a good rapport with Burton. 32 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:51.840 We can always find something to talk about. But it's uh, 33 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:56.840 there's a dedicated purpose to that particular pod, you know. 34 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.319 One of the reasons I want to start recording with 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.640 the car taking a carl and and andies because that 36 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:09.759 that'll be that'll be a more topically light and sort 37 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.400 of funny stream, you know, because Uh, I realize that 38 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:17.840 I don't like people over emphasis. I got a ship, 39 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.759 but I think there's a warranted man like drink levity 40 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.840 to the table. But I well, I. 41 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:24.319 Think we try to do that here too. 42 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.400 So oh, no always, Man, I make fun of stuff 43 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.000 all the time. I mean I make fun of myself. 44 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.960 Like if you don't, you're a fucking dickhead, you know. 45 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:33.919 I mean, there's nothing worse than a totally humorless person. 46 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.680 And you know, that's one of the reasons, like that, 47 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.080 that's one of reason why the left or losers and uh, 48 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.960 it's because like they don't understand humor and like you're you're, 49 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.759 you're you realize you're dealing with like a a totally 50 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:53.800 dysfunctional fucking monkey. If if humor is just healing to them, 51 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.800 you know. Uh. But uh, I mean don't don't get 52 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:03.759 me wrong. Uh the uh like conservative inc is just 53 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.599 as bad, you know. But I mean there's no difference 54 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.560 between them. So I I mean by just and everybody 55 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:12.479 and deck I assume knows that I don't need to 56 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.520 be pedantic for the sake of the slow learners in 57 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:23.360 these environs. But I've been It's not related directly in 58 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.800 anything I'm working on, but I I've been reading a 59 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:32.360 lot and what we're viewing all the content I'm talking, 60 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:37.520 uh from the era like in situ of South Africa, 61 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.800 Rhodesia and Angola, because there was a common battle front 62 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:48.120 there contro the Soviet Union and the Cubans and the 63 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:54.439 indigenous proxy elements and stuff. And obviously what most people 64 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.080 then as now, they're most familiar with the Rhodesian situation, 65 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:03.560 albeit super officially, I mean, in part because English was 66 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:08.840 the lingua franca, but also the Rhodesians. Uh Smith understood 67 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.960 PR better than he's credited. I believe, like he wasn't 68 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.960 a particularly dynamic guy. I mean, he was a he 69 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.759 was a real hero in my opinion, and I read 70 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:22.439 his autobiography I thought was compelling and well done, but 71 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.600 he wasn't exactly an exciting person, is you know, But 72 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.240 he didn't understand PR pretty well. So he'd invite Associated 73 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:36.480 Press and and BBC and stuff to uh Salisbury, you know, 74 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.759 with the attitude. I know, I know you people are 75 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.439 gonna report lies and be hostile, but you know, basically, 76 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.920 look at this is how we live in Rhodesia. And Rhodesia, 77 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:52.079 I mean, granted it was a small country, but they 78 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.360 probably had the highest quality of life in the world, 79 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.720 better even than America, the Bundest Republic or Japan, you know. 80 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:06.199 And of course, the the narrative not just about Rhodesia, 81 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:11.959 but also Portuguese, Angola and the Boer Republic, was that 82 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:17.639 this prosperity was somehow a zero sum enterprise and that 83 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.079 if this ruling element racial otherwise is living well, it 84 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.240 must be to the detriment of these other people. And 85 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.639 that's a really that's a really perverse calculus. And and 86 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.240 it's it's a it's just it's a lie. And uh 87 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:37.040 that that's not just Marxist reasoning either, Like like the 88 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:42.839 Marxi the Marxist perspective was that this progress has been 89 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.519 achieved in Southern Africa, which is the driving economic and 90 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.680 cultural engine of subs and Africa wasn't necessarily process of history, 91 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.720 but now we're going to appropriate it. This Uh that 92 00:05:54.839 --> 00:06:01.120 this sort of like violent intermentioned envy hatred of all 93 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:06.279 things superior isn't Marxist. It's just simple class hatred and 94 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:15.240 primitive racial hostility towards the manifestations of works and and 95 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:23.279 tangible wealth that is produced and held by superior men. 96 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:25.759 And you see that to this day, like I've had 97 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:32.439 h anytimes, not so much anymore in this particular issue, 98 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:37.160 because regime discourse has been so dumb down. It's not 99 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:40.759 even Midwood anymore. It's on it's it's it's it's on 100 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.279 the level of sub human literacy. But people used to say, 101 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.560 you know, during the Cold War and somewhat beyond, it's 102 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:54.240 it's wrong to explore space because people are starving or 103 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.639 presumably like hood rat kids then don't get to go 104 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.319 to school. It's like it's not one or the other. 105 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.800 Like wealth isn't this, It's not this fixed amount of wealth. 106 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.319 And if I build a factory that makes widgets, I'm 107 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:14.199 somehow appropriating wealth from this fixed amount of pie that 108 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.800 that is being stolen from these poor people who needed 109 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.000 to you know, like have pants to wear or something 110 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.800 like a video thinks that I even understand political economy. 111 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.839 It's they don't understand. They don't have a theory of value. 112 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.399 They don't understand what wealth is. 113 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.720 And can I can I go back to Can I 114 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.279 go back to Rhodesia for a second? 115 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:35.839 Oh yeah, you know what I mean? Want? 116 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.079 Yeah, why did Israel back Rhodesia? 117 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.000 They didn't like I got to this. Uh. I was 118 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.959 arguing this point with guys in the youth. Then the 119 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.519 YouTube comments because the monkeys are like, yeah, you know, 120 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.959 Rhodesia was brief like, oh, do you flicking black people? Look, 121 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.639 you want to know who brought down Rhodesia. Look up 122 00:07:55.720 --> 00:08:00.480 Joe Slovo. Look up the entire anti apartheid on the 123 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:04.959 ground there. It was one hundred percent Jewish, Like basically 124 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.480 the entire Jewish minority of South African Rhodesia was working 125 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:13.639 night and day to overthrow weight rule. And this idea 126 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:17.800 that the bores who you know this guy, that guy 127 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:23.839 Stephen Hatfield who was targeted for Meliss prosecution during the 128 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.079 during the anthrax attacks, people are acting like it was odd, 129 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.399 Like why was this was this biochemist who was so 130 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.559 renowned working in South Africa? Because South Africa probably like 131 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.840 the greatest concentration of scientists outside of America on this planet. 132 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.039 This idea that they had no idea how to build 133 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.000 a fusion weapon without Israel helping them is nonsense. The Israelis, 134 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.960 the Israelis needed. Israel actually, especially back then, was a 135 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.840 cash poor country. What kept them going was massive subsidies 136 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:00.240 in the United States, billions in Holocaust reparations extorted from 137 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:06.480 the boondis Republic and uh, you know, a continuously uh, 138 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.480 a continuous flow of of asking as the immigrants in 139 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:16.039 the das for uh, like quite literally, like like liquidating 140 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.639 their wealth and their material ass, their liquid ass. That's 141 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.679 when they moved to Israel and essentially availing it to 142 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.279 the government. Like Israel had no money and they had 143 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:30.159 a domestic weapons industry that made very good small arms, 144 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.320 but that was about it. They do business with anybody. 145 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:39.600 They didn't care. So and if you want uh, if 146 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:42.519 you're a if you've got the same sort of tactical 147 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:50.120 exigencies as the as the Rhodesians did on the frontier, 148 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:55.200 particularly around what's now Namibia and stuff, you know, they're 149 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.840 who you'd go to. I mean, like Brazil did a 150 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.519 huge amount of Brazil is always him and they make 151 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.960 a lot of shitty weapons this day, but Brazil, Brazil 152 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:07.759 and France have always manufactured a huge amount of military hardware. 153 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:09.919 I mean, these Raelis are a huge yelling with business 154 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:11.919 Brazil and France. I mean that means that like Israel 155 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.720 love is Brazil, they don't. They don't care, you know. 156 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:24.360 And the UH the only and despite too what uh 157 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.600 what the Reagan administration said, especially during the first the 158 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.799 first Reagan administration in the second one were two totally 159 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.799 different things. Like the Buchanan wasn't just fired for the 160 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:38.759 Bittberg speech, and he wasn't just fired because Nancy hated him. 161 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:42.559 I mean, those things didn't help, but there was there 162 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.200 was this whole purge of anybody who was actually right 163 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:50.679 wing from the Regan administration, Pitt Buchanan, James Webb, you know, 164 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.559 guys who had been al Hag loyalists. Hey get his problems, 165 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.440 but he you know, he uh, he was basically at 166 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.720 a tafty and type right winger, like an old right 167 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:07.440 type guy. But you know, what their Reagan Instigation said 168 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.919 on the floor of the United Nations, which then actually 169 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.600 had some relevancy, and what they did were radically different things. 170 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:21.360 You know, their Reagan Instigation was absolutely doing business with Pretoria. 171 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:28.440 You know, for example, it wasn't just uh and honestly, 172 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:34.039 what what brought down Rhodesia. Rhodesia was a lot more 173 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:37.440 robust than in Gola, which was a basket case just 174 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.679 like the mother country was. And uh, South Africa was 175 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.240 a very different kind of state. It was much larger obviously, 176 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.759 but also you know, despite the Rodesia was not being 177 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.559 crippled by sanctions. It really didn't matter, like up until 178 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.759 the end. You know, there's this footage from AP or 179 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:04.120 BBC or whatever of town sells very where there's this 180 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:08.799 department store that was an that that was a domestic brand. 181 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.360 It was basically like the Rhodesian uh Sex Fifth Avenue. 182 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:14.879 So there's all these sort of like glamorous ladies buying 183 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.399 stuff there and you know, uh like business guys, you know, 184 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.840 like trying on suits. And the reporter was like angrily 185 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:26.159 talking about h rhodes has become this artarctic country that 186 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.240 and they're like, okay, you're gonna sanction us. Fuck you, 187 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.240 we don't need your imports. You know what what killed 188 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:36.000 it is when uh, when in Gola fell, you know, 189 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.759 because of the Carnation Revolution of the you've mystic we 190 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.519 called the communist government and what then became Namibia. They 191 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:50.159 they didn't just uh, they totally sealed the border with Rhodesia. 192 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.679 And Rhodesan needed port access because it was one thing 193 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:58.799 to have to divert rail commerce around Namibia. They couldn't 194 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:02.159 even access the port now you know without uh. And 195 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:03.399 on top of it, had I mean there was a 196 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.399 time going border conflict speaking it had that not been 197 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.919 they would they had to deploy they had to deploy 198 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.759 Rhodesi and sas elements and stuff to guard their trains 199 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.759 that were coming under assault by you know, the Cubans, 200 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:23.320 by uh by swap oh by I mean you name it. 201 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.600 I mean, that's what brought it down. It wasn't I 202 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.519 mean for the san sanctions don't work, number one, But 203 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.039 there are states that can be susceptible to them. I mean, 204 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:38.320 if you sanctions the equivalent of I mean, they didn't 205 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.440 call them sanctions in those days because there wasn't there 206 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.720 wasn't a globalized apparatus to levy these kinds of punishments. 207 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.919 So there wasn't an independence at scale. But embargoing in 208 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.279 the Confederate states did play a huge role in crushing 209 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.279 them because they were literally a one crop economy. That's 210 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.159 the one incidence for sanctioning works. But you know, Rhodesia, 211 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:04.679 Rhodesia wasn't. The important point is Yoursia wasn't East Germany. 212 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.360 It didn't go down because it was this experiment and 213 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.080 in some sort of planned society that was doomed to 214 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.759 fail because it it didn't abide the realities of you know, 215 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.600 political economy at scale, and it was at odds with 216 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.679 with with human social psychology or something. It was, it 217 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.919 was delivered, it was it was attacked from literally all 218 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:29.720 fronts by both the Warsaw Pact and America and the 219 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.759 UK and the and the e C as it was called. Then, 220 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.399 I mean, nobody can survive that. 221 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.679 You know, why did why did the Soviets uh basket 222 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:39.600 the Blacks? 223 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:42.600 Well it was an issue of credit. Well, first of all, 224 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.039 Africa was actually a really important continent. It's not just 225 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:50.879 the biggest content on this planet. But you know, the 226 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:55.320 the Stalinists didn't have uh. They they were you know, 227 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.200 I mean Russia, which was the first among nationalities as 228 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.559 they characterized it officially, you know, in their own propaganda. 229 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:04.120 So we can use that as sort of the model 230 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:10.399 for the tenor of Stalinist cultural ideas. The Stalinists and 231 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:14.000 the Soviet Union on the Russians, despite their atheism, they 232 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:19.360 were basically a conservative society. But they the Russians didn't 233 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.279 view themselves as white. Then they certainly didn't view themselves 234 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.960 as part of the white world. You know, they are 235 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.200 part of Europe and beyond that, you know, they they 236 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.879 were basically orthodox Marxist Leninists. Like this idea that the 237 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.360 Soviets and the DDR weren't real communists. That's bullshit. They 238 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.039 absolutely were. That's why I push it back. It's not 239 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.559 just because they're all literate and they shouldn't try and 240 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.320 punch above their weight with subject matter they don't understand. 241 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.039 But when he's like mega types called the other day 242 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.600 on rumblesome guy was saying that that John Lebowits, you know, 243 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.399 John Stewart is a Marxist. I'm like, what the fuck 244 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.679 do you mean he's a Marxist, like he believes in 245 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:58.960 the dictatorship of the proletariats. I wasn't even mean, you know, 246 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.519 but the the way the Soviets viewed things. 247 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.919 Boomer that's that's boomery bonus. 248 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.600 They have their own language. It'd be like me saying 249 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:14.840 that if you have me saying Ariel Sharone is a monarchist. Okay, 250 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:22.039 like the uh but the uh i uh. But no, 251 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.360 there were the Soviets and the Worst Up Pact. They 252 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.519 didn't have any notion of of trying to forcibly blend 253 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.840 populations or annihilate national identity. Quite the contrary, but they didn't. 254 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.240 They didn't view white minority rule as legitimate. They viewed 255 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.559 they viewed it exactly like I said, as okay, the 256 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:44.240 the productive capital that's been created by the colonial situation 257 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.000 and imperialism, as they called it, you know, borrowing from 258 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.720 Lenin's book of the same name, that's created this sort 259 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:56.159 of driving engine of capital productivity in southern Africa. But 260 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.240 you know, the blacks constitute this hyper exploited, petrolitarian it 261 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:05.640 and they're a population unlike American blacks for example, that 262 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:11.720 our rife for you know, being availed to a revolutionary consciousness. 263 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.759 You know. So the future is a communize up there 264 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:21.319 in Africa that will in turn benefit the socialist community 265 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:25.160 and nations immeasurably and geostrategic terms as well as forcing 266 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.599 after the It was complicated when it would happened after 267 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:33.359 the fall a Saigon because in part in substantial measure, 268 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:38.039 Kissinger and Nixon had neutralized a strategic advantage of that 269 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:44.319 by flipping China and decopling Pey King from Moscow and 270 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:48.680 then backing the Khmer rouge. So the way the Soviets 271 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:53.519 responded was the Soviets flipped India to the Warsaw packed camp. 272 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:58.640 Then America in turn flipped Pakistan, which is why the 273 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.920 Indo Pakistan war had but which is why, incidentally this day, 274 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:07.079 Islamabad and Washington have cordial relations. Which is why, for example, 275 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.319 despite what the regime claims, Islamabad absolutely handed over bin 276 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.200 Laden and had him under house arrest and everybody can 277 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:20.079 do that. But that led approximately to the Soviet War 278 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:24.119 in Afghanistan, which a lot of people don't understand. Part 279 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:29.640 of it was the geographic locui of Soviet command and control, 280 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:34.160 which was in Star City, Kazakhstan. But the but that 281 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.440 that was predicated on what I just said too. But 282 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.480 so the but the sort of after the falls I gone, 283 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:47.720 and the uh, the Cold War went hot in Angola, 284 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.640 really you know, And and so it's like, okay, this 285 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:54.799 is this is the push here, you know, the the 286 00:18:54.839 --> 00:19:00.720 swap always rising up, you know, the the portugue are 287 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.680 going down. Now now, now is the time to move. 288 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:09.240 This is uh, this is where the socialist imperative is 289 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:14.559 most animated by a revolutionary impulse. That's why. And plus two, 290 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.480 the there's no way America was going to deployed in Gola. 291 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.400 That was unthinkable, you know, I mean, America doesn't go 292 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:24.480 to during the Cold War, America didn't deploy to fight 293 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:27.240 in Africa anyway, that was France's and the UK's job 294 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:32.039 and Portugal's until like they went down in defeat going 295 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:36.000 to you know, betrayal at home. But the that's why 296 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:40.119 Colonel Callon and that whole insane story developed because the 297 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:45.640 British basically you know that this was before the build 298 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:50.440 up that was that ended up facilitating the Falklands War 299 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:53.920 and and the Royal Navy, uh build up that made 300 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:58.000 the Greenland Ice and UK gap a major thorn on 301 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.799 the side of the Soviet says. We got a deployment 302 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.960 pack is all that. So the UK was gutted militarily. 303 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:11.319 Northern Ireland was reaching peak, that the cycle of violence 304 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.680 was reaching peak attrition. So the s A s they 305 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.000 they you know, they they found they found a maniac 306 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.839 like Callen who had actually been in Northern Ireland as 307 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.960 an says man and uh I camera's name is one 308 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.119 guy with a memoir about his time on the ground 309 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:34.119 with Callen in Angola. He'd been he was literally a 310 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.119 safe cracker and a thief who'd done like hard time 311 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.880 behind that he got recruited. You know, it was it 312 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.799 was literally like uh, this uh, this band of outlaws 313 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.920 who constituted the mercenary element on the ground there, but 314 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:54.720 they what the British way, they didn't know because there 315 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.640 was not good intel on the Dark continent. And then 316 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.599 that's you know, we had these fools like a holding 317 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.720 rovert who was basically a con man. That's how he 318 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:04.920 was able to sell the CIA of bill of goods 319 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.799 and were as well as m I six or whatever. 320 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:15.079 But the uh, there wasn't good intel on the ground there, 321 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.400 human or otherwise. The Cubans were deployed about fifty thousand deep. 322 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:23.240 You know. The Cuban army was basically always engaged. You know. 323 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.799 They they were very they were deadly serious about the 324 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:36.440 about facilitating the revolution by direct military means on planetary scale. 325 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.880 You know. So Callen and this kind of outlaw band 326 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:46.279 of mercenary shows up, they make contact with Roberto, throw 327 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.519 the wholding Roberto's and have shit. He's got maybe a 328 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:53.000 battalion sized element, you know, and and a bunch of 329 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:57.480 old uh and a bunch of old Belgian rifles. You know. 330 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:00.000 So Callen like goes nuts. A bunch of guys are 331 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.240 trying to desert, so Callen just starts like wasting them, 332 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:03.839 you know, and like anyone tries to desert, it's gonna 333 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:10.119 be shot. I mean, to be fair. Uh, these guys went. Uh, 334 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:13.160 these guys took on the fucking Cuban army and then 335 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:20.160 callen him in a bunch of white mercenaries under his command. 336 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:24.240 They were captured and uh they were put on trial 337 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:29.279 in Luanda, and you know the famous mercenary trial. A 338 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:31.200 couple of those guys were Americans. One of them was 339 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.720 this kind of this real sad case who's a nom 340 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.640 vet you know. He uh some I think he was 341 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.279 from upstate New York or Pittsburgh, you know. Uh. He 342 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:43.880 did just all kinds of problems supporting his families, that's 343 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.119 coming back from Nam. You had a wife and a 344 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:49.440 bunch of kids, lived in some white ghetto, you know. 345 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.839 So he signs on to go to Angola basically to 346 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.559 feed his family. He's only there like a few days. 347 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:57.640 He gets captured, he gets sent enced to death, you know, 348 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.440 boom firing squad. This other dude who was at the 349 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.680 kid he he he was, he was they lot he 350 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.880 They spared him by presumably his youth, but he he 351 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:12.240 did like nine years and angle in prison, and then 352 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.440 when he came back home Soldier of Fortune, which was 353 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.160 a great magazine back in the day. They did a 354 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.200 whole interview with him, which was fascinating. I remember when 355 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.319 I was a kid. I read it and I was 356 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:30.839 like wow. But uh, Callen himself, you know, he's uh, 357 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.759 he knows he's facing the death penalty and uh he'd 358 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.200 been shot in the leg, so he's on crutches. And 359 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.279 uh Callen was Greek, he was a he was a 360 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:47.400 Greek Cypriot. Colonel Callen was uh an alias. There was 361 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:51.240 some show about some badass commando named Colonel Callen, so 362 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.359 Callen took that on as his moniker. But so he's 363 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:59.799 this guy. Uh, he's just like wiry, kind of little guy, 364 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.720 very ethnic looking, but with like a thousand yard stare. 365 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.480 He like hobbles up to the lecture and he says, 366 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.039 you know, he's like I just want to say, and 367 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:11.880 this is all I'm going to say. He's like, these 368 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.279 men here, they were acting under my orders. They didn't 369 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:16.640 do nothing wrong. I don't care if I get shot. 370 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:19.240 That's all I got to say. I think that's that's 371 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.599 a real man, you know, like he I mean, Piper 372 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.440 said the same thing. Piper said at the dogout trial. 373 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.200 He said, I'll plead guilty, do whatever you want, you know, 374 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.720 I'll please I'll play guilty to killing Christ if you 375 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.200 want me to, under two conditions, give me the firing 376 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.640 squad and you let my men go. You know, so 377 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:37.599 he already want to up Kalen like he was. He 378 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.519 was a beastly work criminal. I don't know, man, he 379 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.119 he fell on his sword and made a good faith 380 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.240 petition to let let the other men go. And I mean, 381 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:53.200 that's it's easy to throw shade on that. But people, 382 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.559 I don't think people understand how unsettling it is to 383 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.480 be in court. I mean, obviously I've never ready it 384 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.559 during anything where my life was on the line. It 385 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:05.559 came in imagine being in capital jeopardy. But if you're 386 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:08.920 gonna be and sent way to prison, you know, and 387 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.960 you're looking up at the judge who holds that gonna 388 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.720 power over you, it's it's pretty horrifying, man. And and 389 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.720 he you know, guys will play tough and say that 390 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.079 doesn't shake them up. It's like you're like incredibly stupid. 391 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.039 Then you're lying, you know, but that's it's a scary thing, man. 392 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:31.799 And you know, for Calender, you know, not the broken psychologically. 393 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.519 And he had a sister who really loved him, and 394 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.519 his sister went to visit him and she saw him, 395 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.640 I think forty eight hours before he he died. Before 396 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.680 he you know, he was thanktually you by firing squad. 397 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.880 You know, she said he was at peace. So yeah, 398 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.599 I I've always had I mean, I guess anything with 399 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:55.680 the double I was, I I relate to I relate 400 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:01.480 to bad guys obviously, but I found calling to be 401 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:07.119