WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.880 Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. 2 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:19.079 It is two hours of a business, end of show business. 3 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:24.679 Whether it's movies or TV, or books or sports, we 4 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:30.320 do it all here. I'm joined by my engineer and 5 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.520 producer Sam. Sam. How are you doing. 6 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:36.960 I'm okay. I'm hanging in there. Had a decent week. 7 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.320 Good. We'll get into whether you saw any movies or 8 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.560 not a little bit later. What We got a lot 9 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:47.759 of things going on today. Minecraft continues to make news 10 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:52.520 and money and Kneecap your host's favorite band at Coachella 11 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.640 is in a lot of trouble, Sam, I've heard. We'll 12 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.759 explore the concerning decline in film and TV production in 13 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:03.799 Southern California and Snoop Dogg's new deal at NBC Universal Universal, 14 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:08.719 And in our Celebs Behaving badly segment Shocking development Sam 15 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:14.040 in the Shannon Sharp lawsuit, including a disturbing audio recording 16 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.079 that we might even be able to listen to tonight 17 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:18.280 and leak to our listeners. 18 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:19.400 I'm disturbed. 19 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:24.000 Plus, we have updates on the missing person at Disneyland 20 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:25.120 was reported missing. 21 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.079 Someone was missing at Disneyland. They were missing and intentionally. 22 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.799 It started as a family squabble and turned into a 23 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:32.879 big missing person's case. 24 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.239 Wait, so somebody it became a giant game of hide 25 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:37.439 and seek. Then that's what I'm guessing's. 26 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:37.840 Exactly what happens to. 27 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:38.840 That's kind of cool. 28 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.799 And we'll have a frank discussion about who should be 29 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.359 the next pope, because I think we might have some 30 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.000 influence before those guys get locked into the conclave. We 31 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:48.879 might be able to persuade one or two of them. 32 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:54.079 Now poison the uh, we're poisoning the voting pool and 33 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:55.480 the conclave. That's what we're doing. 34 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.920 And everybody knows all of the cardinals huge fans of life. 35 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.680 From Hollywood, a lot of them, a lot of them. 36 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.599 They're English is a second or third language. They don't 37 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:06.519 get as much out of it as the popes from 38 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.759 the English speaking languages. But we know the listen. Plus 39 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:15.919 we'll have updates on nothing else. That's it. That's what 40 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.919 a terrible showy. You know what though right now we're 41 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.680 getting to it. By the end, you might want to 42 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:25.120 change a channel. But for now, let's dive into the 43 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.800 festival season is officially begun. Music festival season begins with 44 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.719 Coachella two weeks of Coachella and one weekend of Stagecoach, 45 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:42.000 and this year national news was made on the front 46 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.919 of a band that you heard on this show. I 47 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.400 don't know anyone else that has interviewed this band in 48 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.400 the whole country, but we got an interview with them. 49 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.960 And they are called knee Cap and they are from 50 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:59.439 Northern Ireland and they are a hyper political band in 51 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:01.879 a sense. But I didn't really notice it because I 52 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.879 thought everybody in Northern Ireland hates the British and it's 53 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.919 not even I mean, if you don't know anything about 54 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.439 Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland is ruled by Great Britain and 55 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:15.840 regular in Ireland is ruled by Regular Irish. So they 56 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:20.000 don't like the Queen. They don't like Prince William, Prince Harry. 57 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.240 Actually they probably like the Queen the way she is now, 58 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.360 but they don't like the King. And of course that's 59 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.199 been going on for a long time. So there's a 60 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:38.000 rap band that surfaced last couple of years called Kneecap, 61 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.240 and I found out about them because they made a 62 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.000 movie where they started in their own movie. You might 63 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.879 think that's a terrible idea, but they were great actors. 64 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:50.960 And they got training, like six months worth of intents 65 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.879 of intensive acting training. Sam I was in a TV 66 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:59.240 show once where I was the star of a sitcom 67 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.120 called Fear of a Punk Planet and I had an 68 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:06.479 intense three week acting course. 69 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:09.039 How intense was this acting course? 70 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.000 It was just go to the lady about three times 71 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.919 and she's like, who just kind of worked. I already 72 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:15.560 had a script and I had to say these lines. 73 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.720 It was like, we're just working with this particular script. 74 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.759 She didn't make me like, you know, do weird exercises 75 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.560 like sit in a circle with people and go like 76 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.000 this is something, this is nothing, this is something, this 77 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.240 is nothing, something, nothing, something nothing. We didn't play games 78 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:30.680 like that. We just got right to the script. 79 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:33.040 It sounds intense. 80 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.639 It was intense. You can find episodes of this on 81 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.639 the internet on YouTube. Some of them are on their 82 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.120 Fear of a Punk Planet. Check it out. See. Let 83 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.399 me know if I'm a good actor, but I'm certainly 84 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.360 not as good as these guys in Kneecap. So they 85 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.519 made a really good movie. It was an Oscar contention, 86 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.120 but then it didn't get a nomination, and I think 87 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.560 I know why. Now these guys are hyper political against 88 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.480 you know, they want freedom for the people in Northern 89 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.000 Ireland against the British, and that's been you know, that's 90 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.199 something called the Troubles, been fighting for a long time. 91 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:06.759 But then, as I think, they branched out into other 92 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:11.319 political causes and performed at Coachella where I saw them. 93 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.160 I talked to Jev DJ Proval, the guy that wears 94 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:17.839 the mask. He wears like an Irish beanie mask thing 95 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.519 and that's his stick. And then there's two other guys. 96 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:22.800 There are a lot like the Beastie Boys. If you 97 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:24.560 like the Beastie Boys at all, you will like these guys. 98 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.759 But they rap in Gaelic Sam, the traditional language of 99 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.120 the Irish. And so what the one thing they've done 100 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.279 is they have caused a trend in Ireland for young 101 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.720 kids to learn their native language. And people have been 102 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.279 trying for you know, one hundred years to get kids 103 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.720 to learn their native language in Ireland. These guys did 104 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:48.000 it by becoming a great rap band. I mean genius, right, 105 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.079 that's how you do it. Then they played in Coachella 106 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:59.560 and they started getting real political and they started putting 107 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.879 stuff up on the screen like you know, uh, basically 108 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.040 it's the they're on the side of against Israel and 109 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:15.920 the Israel Palestinian the Gaza thing they were they put 110 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.160 up on the on the screen something like when I 111 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:25.279 saw them, they it just said the genocide against the 112 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.399 Palestine people is terrible or whatever. Fight support, blah blah blah. 113 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:32.399 I mean, let me ask you, that's that's pretty It 114 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.240 seem like mainstream politics to you right now. 115 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.920 It's pretty mainstream at this point. Yeah, a lot of 116 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.120 people are really attuned to what's happening, and people are 117 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.360 picking sides. But I mean Irish tend to. I've seen 118 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.399 soccer games out of Ireland where the crowd themselves are 119 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:50.000 chanting chants in allegiance with the Palestinian people. 120 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.319 Yeah, it's interesting because they're because of the way that 121 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:53.639 they've been treated by the British. 122 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.399 They understand occupation. 123 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.680 Yes, right, so that's where they're where they come down. 124 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:02.240 And I'm telling you, I don't I don't really have 125 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.040 a side in this dogfight. I don't have a dog 126 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:08.199 in this hunt. They say. I look at it, and 127 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.399 I listen to one podcast and I go, yeah, that 128 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:12.240 sounds right. And then I listen to a podcast or 129 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.040 that they say the opposite and I go, ah, that 130 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.560 sounds right. I'm not even smart enough to know, you know, 131 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.079 uh where to come down on this one. I'm just 132 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.920 not so I don't. But I certainly wouldn't stand on 133 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:26.920 stage and say, uh, free Palestine, f Israel. 134 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.720 Now, even Coachella, like the live stream censored that part out, 135 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:37.439 but it's still appeared on other people's streams throughout social media. 136 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:39.920 So yeah, I probably got it on my phone. Yeah, 137 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:41.600 but I didn't put it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't put that. 138 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.120 I put some pictures of me on it on there, 139 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.720 and like someone like Greg Gutfeld that Fox News I showed. 140 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:47.959 I go, hey, this man was really good. But I 141 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.160 think there's a controversy. This is before we can too. Yeah, 142 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:51.759 then after we can too. He goes, you don't post that, 143 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:55.800 and I'm like, way too late, I'm already there, so 144 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.319 but I just don't. I don't agree. Well, my this's 145 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:02.680 my question to you, Sam and the listeners. Even has 146 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:04.800 there ever been a band where you you disagreed with 147 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:06.879 your politics but you liked them anyway? 148 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.279 Yeah? Yeah, Metallica. Typically there's a couple of bands out 149 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.759 there that I still have a deep amount of appreciation 150 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:18.000 for but I don't have to agree with their politics. 151 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.160 I mean, the way I've always looked at it is 152 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.040 like you can have an opinion, but you don't need 153 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.480 to adopt other people's problems. Yes, right, and this is one. 154 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.160 What they did. They they bid off quite a chunk, 155 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:31.800 but now they're in a corner. 156 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.600 But they also understand that this is something like a 157 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.039 problem that they have in common with the Palestinian people. 158 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.320 So it's hard for them to not speak up about it, 159 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.559 especially when they're on that big of a stage in 160 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:47.039 a country that has that much influence. 161 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.200 Right, Yeah, and they were influencing people. There were people 162 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.240 in the audience with Irish flags and you know they're 163 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.559 fighting the British, and then there are Palestinian flags in 164 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.679 the audience, and you know it's I mean, it's just 165 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:05.159 I think people can have sincere, sincerely had beliefs on 166 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.240 both sides, and it's just where you are, We are 167 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.840 from your frame of reference, and these guys, their frame 168 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:17.200 of reference is occupation. So they cannot look you know, 169 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.320 they can't as a political ban, they can't stand by 170 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:27.879 while an occupation is taking place. So f Israel, though, 171 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.639 the reason why I wouldn't say that no matter how 172 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:32.480 into it I was, is because that has anti Semitic, 173 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.000 Nazi connotations because Israel is made up of Jews, it's 174 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:41.159 a Jewish state. So but in what they're in their defense, 175 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:42.519 they're saying, and they're getting a lot of trouble now, 176 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.600 a lot of blowback. We'll get more into that after traffic. 177 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.399 But they are in their defense they're saying, hey, look, 178 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.440 we don't care what people religion people are. We don't 179 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.159 care if if Israel is Jewish or whatever they're doing. 180 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.720 We don't like their policies and what they're doing in 181 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:06.480 the aftermath of the attack by the Uh what do 182 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.200 they call these people? The Hamas? Okay, And you can 183 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.240 argue over, well they did that because of this. Whatever 184 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.440 they're saying, I hate, they hate Israel as a as 185 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.159 a country. They don't hate their religion at all. And 186 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.480 these are Catholics. I interviewed them, the Roman Catholics. Decent people. 187 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:28.720 But you just don't go around saying ef it is 188 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.080 reel without unless you really want to drop a bomb. 189 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:34.639 And they dropped the bomb, and uh sure, yeah, and 190 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.600 when we come back, I'll tell you what happened to 191 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.120 them and what the reaction is on this and it 192 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.840 was on Fox News Channel. I mean it was like, 193 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.240 I'm watching I just look at the TV and my 194 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:49.559 favorite band is like on Fox News Channel. I go, h, 195 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:51.600 we're in trouble. I don't know. I don't know what happened, 196 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.080 you know, I just just don't listen to the A 197 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.000 lot of time, I don't listen to the politics because 198 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.799 usually they're just too left for me. Like Crass. Crass 199 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:02.600 is an anarchist band and love Crafts. I love how 200 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:09.440 they they they fashion their anarchist lyrics. I vehemently disagree 201 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.840 with their with their politics and almost everything they say, 202 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:13.960 but they do it so well. I can't stop listening 203 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.799 to it. And and I don't know. I hope that 204 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.120 people can kind of do the same thing forneecap. But 205 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:20.559 so we'll find out what happened to them when we 206 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.559 come back to Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scolante 207 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:30.919 Live from Hollywood, and we got a live We had 208 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:32.799 a lot of movie stuff. There's there's big movie news 209 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.240 like more and more coming up. But every week there's 210 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:40.080 like things are rapidly changing I feel in the movie world. 211 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.840 But first I want to get back Toneecap, who is 212 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:46.080 kind of being canceled because of their performance at Coachella, 213 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.440 and Coachella said, hey, they blindsided us. We didn't know 214 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:56.039 and you know, and then they So what happened to 215 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.200 him is after they've said they're basically I think it 216 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.360 was f Israel was where it pushed the push, pushed 217 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.399 the limits. They had to complain about the first weekend 218 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.440 saying they were censored because they went on an anti 219 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.360 Margaret Thatcher range grant and anti because they did this 220 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.559 big like, oh we hate Margaret Thatcher and they've got 221 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.519 all these images behind them, they got a song against her, 222 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:19.559 blah blah blah blah blah. So they were trying to 223 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:23.240 claim that they were censored because they were, you know, 224 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.679 they took this brave stand against Margaret Thatcher. And I 225 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.000 got to tell you that's just not true. I talked 226 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.440 this over with someone on the inside too, and he's like, 227 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:36.919 if they think any of our freaking Generation Z technical 228 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.480 people know who Margaret Thatcher is, they're out of their minds, 229 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:41.799 just don't even know. 230 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.480 Yeah, when you mentioned Margaret Thatcher, I can laughed. I chuckled, 231 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.960 because nobody out here cares about Margaret Thatcher. They they 232 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:52.960 have a very strong identity of feelings of whatever feelings 233 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.960 they have with Margaret Thatcher because they were directly impacted 234 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.519 by the monarchy. Yeah, I get it. But out here, yeah, 235 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:02.960 You're people are gonna be like, yeah, Margaret Thatcher, we're 236 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.240 still partying here at Coachella exactly. 237 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.639 So some of the articles you'll read about kneecap getting 238 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:15.320 you know, canceled, et cetera, are are just uh, just 239 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.799 you know, fake news because there there's you know, there's 240 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.559 a lot of misinformation. The misinformation I's noticed right away 241 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.879 is that that somebody in Coachella cares about Margaret Margaret Thatcher. 242 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.200 They don't. But as you said, some of the images 243 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.639 that they maybe someone said, hey, f Israel, they would 244 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.600 like if they had a switching station, which they do, 245 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.279 they might have said, you know what, we don't need 246 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.399 to someone in there in the radio go like, you 247 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:44.360 know what, let's not show the screen right now with 248 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.480 the f Israel on there, and and that's prudent, and 249 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.440 that would be a guy that's his job to just 250 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.000 you know, let's tone it down. I think you could 251 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:58.399 say free Palestine all you want, but when you say 252 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.919 f Israel, and I don't think it's because Israel is 253 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:06.559 controlling you know, the universe. I think it's just because 254 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:12.559 it's just you know, a the one's violent. One is 255 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.679 is like you know, passive free Israel, like we would 256 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.600 like to be free. The other one is f or 257 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.279 free Palestine. Yeah, we want to be free f Israel. 258 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:30.080 Totally different. Yeah, but should they be Okay, maybe a 259 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:35.720 wag of the finger for your f Israel, and but 260 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:40.840 should should they be ruined? Like Sharon Osborne accus Deecap 261 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.679 of a hate speech and called for the revocation of 262 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.200 their US work visas, so she's getten right to federal 263 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.720 law bring down the federal government on them. Osborne argued 264 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.360 that music festivals should unite people, not promote hate or 265 00:14:54.440 --> 00:15:04.080 terrorist organizations. Okay, I I heard him say support Palestine. 266 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:08.240 I didn't really hear them say they like the Hamas organization. 267 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.759 Should you know, send your checks in and your donations in. 268 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.120 They might feel that way, but it wasn't an over 269 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:20.080 writing message. They were trying to get out and they 270 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.879 got everybody to do a free Palestine chant. But again 271 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:29.279 they're drawing parallels between Irish persecution and the situation in Palestine. 272 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.919 Osborne criticized Coachella organizers for allowing them to perform again, 273 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.080 so she would like them to basically, I use this 274 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.919 argument as she would. She believes that because of their 275 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.240 art and their politics different from hers, she would like 276 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:49.519 them to starve to death, like not work, basically, deprive 277 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:51.759 them of their right to work, and there up there 278 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.200 their right to get their message out. That's what where 279 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:59.360 Sharon Osborne comes down on this, and I don't agree 280 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:01.480 with that. I think you don't either, And I just 281 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.440 independent from their political message again, which I don't believe. 282 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.919 I don't believe in their political message. There's great musicians 283 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.039 and they're caught up in their occupation. Go see the movie. 284 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:13.679 You don't have to go now, Sam. The movie Kneecap 285 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.240 is on Netflix right now for free excellent. If you 286 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:19.679 called Netflix free, Yeah, it's on right now. You can 287 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:21.919 just push a button and you're watching Kneecap tonight. And 288 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.000 I'm telling you, audience America and all the ships at 289 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.360 sea that listen to this show, put on your Netflix 290 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.519 tonight and watch Kneecap. You're not going to find a 291 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.320 better movie, I'm telling you. And I've seen some movies. 292 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:40.080 So they lost their agent in the US, and Sharon 293 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.879 Osbourne is is that much closer to getting her wish 294 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.919 that they starve to death in their and their family 295 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:53.919 starve because of their their views. And you know how 296 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.159 to you know, Ozzy Osbourne is the one who they 297 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.039 said he was a Satanist for biting a head off 298 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:00.679 a bat or something like that, and it was all 299 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.160 media frenzy. But how quickly they forget that the media, 300 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.960 you know, causes a frenzy And there's truly a frenzy 301 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.000 over this when it gets all the way to Fox 302 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.559 News and you know what, it's just Coachella is a 303 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.319 great festival. And then you know what, maybe this is 304 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.160 good for them and Coachella in the long run. I 305 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:22.720 don't know, how do you come down on that. Do 306 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:24.839 you think this is good for them? Or is it 307 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.519 going to ruin them and they go home and break up. 308 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.119 If the President doesn't decide to completely ban them and 309 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.119 boycott them from the entering the country ever again, then 310 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.039 I can see I see this as being a plus 311 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.960 for them because they are getting the attention of people 312 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:43.799 who typically would not be attuned to what their messaging is, 313 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.839 what their music is, who they are and now all 314 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:48.920 of a sudden, people know who they are, and there 315 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.200 are people overnight, Yeah, overnight, and there's a whole bunch 316 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.480 of people who are like I didn't know that they 317 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:57.880 are making songs and putting out messages that I already 318 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.839 agree with. Yeah, so now they're already being attracted to them. 319 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.559 The people who are disagreeing with them want to hear 320 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:04.359 what they're talking about. 321 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:05.599 Yeah, what what's this all about? 322 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:05.720 Here? 323 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:06.880 I gotta check it out. 324 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:08.799 So a lot of times you have people out there 325 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:09.279 who are. 326 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:10.640 Gonna neecap necap necap. 327 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.160 Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna judge them without listening. But 328 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.599 the thing is, I love what you're doing. You're telling 329 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:16.880 them go see the movie. 330 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:20.400 Yeah, it's on Netflix, and you'll understand so much about them. 331 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.839 Yeah, you'll get it, and you'll understand where their perspective is. 332 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.160 You don't have to agree with them, you don't have 333 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:27.519 to adopt their perspective. 334 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:31.160 And before this, even before any of this even went down, 335 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.480 you can look on my list of top ten movies 336 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.799 for twenty twenty four, number two was kneecapp. It was 337 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:43.079 my number two movie of the whole year, and for 338 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.519 sure the movie that I'd most like to see multiple times, 339 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:51.160 so check it out on Netflix. It's just called Meecap, 340 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.720 named after the band. Yep, Let's take a break, come Back. 341 00:18:53.839 --> 00:19:01.519 Joe Sclante Live from Hollywood, Joe Us Goolan Teke Live 342 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:07.599 from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. We are 343 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:11.440 here every Sunday from five to seven on Los Angeles 344 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:16.559 radio station k e I B. And then later Sam 345 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:21.759 turns it into a podcast, which is so an MP 346 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.039 three that you know you can download. 347 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:26.960 I save it, I edit it, and then I throw 348 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.039 it up there. Yeah. 349 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:31.400 It takes all the f Israel's out of the show. 350 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:33.880 Yeah, and I add a few more in later. 351 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.200 Okay, well that's what we're we're But we were just 352 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.359 talking about Kneecap getting canceled for saying f Israel at Coachella. 353 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.279 But I know I've said enough about this, But let 354 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.880 me ask you another question. Because I talked to an 355 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:51.079 agent because they lost their agent in the US and 356 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.880 that's not fun. You know, you're like Pariah canceled. I 357 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.000 talked to my agent who new were their agent. I 358 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.880 asked him to go ask him if they've if they 359 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.319 have any bands in their roster that yell F the USA, 360 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:08.839 either in their music or on stage, and I guarantee 361 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.720 they do, and if they didn't, I guarantee if that 362 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:16.039 band did that at Coachella from the main stage for 363 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:23.000 an hour, everyone would say how brave, how brave? Yes, 364 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.960 this country what it does to oppress the world, It's 365 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.160 an occupying nation, imperialist. I spit on the ground when 366 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.400 I hear the word USA. It's not even a word, 367 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.440 and I still split on the ground. I think that's 368 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.559 just part of rock and roll F the USA, even 369 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.759 British rock and roll, like Who's it exploited? I think 370 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.279 they might even have a song called F the Usa, 371 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:53.319 Sam and it's all over So do I like it? 372 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:53.559 No? 373 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:56.279 You know what you tell me, you're gonna say F 374 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:57.839 the USA. I might go, I don't know if I 375 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.720 want you to play tonight, yeah, but I'm just it's punk. 376 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.839 Crop just go do your F the USA. I'm not 377 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.200 going to do it. And I think the audience of 378 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.559 the Vandals knows that we don't do F the USA. 379 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.880 It's not our shtick, and we now may not even 380 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:12.880 be as good as the F the USA band, but 381 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:15.200 we have the people that appreciate and we don't. We 382 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:16.960 don't do that. And one of the reasons why I 383 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:23.240 do that is because it's low hanging fruit to to 384 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:25.640 to being a rock band and criticize the US government. 385 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:30.920 It's just yawn. You know, yawn. I've heard it, and 386 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:34.480 I'm not But to your young kid, they don't know 387 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.160 what's come before them to much showneecaps a half Israel, 388 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.000 they're occupying this and then, and I think nobody really 389 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.200 knows what's right or wrong in that region. But all 390 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.000 I do know is people should have the right to 391 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:51.920 have deeply held beliefs, and you know, as long as 392 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:57.119 they're not well, they just should. People should just try 393 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:01.359 to respect that. See. Okay, you could say, well, I 394 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.119 don't like them because I don't like kneecaps saying that 395 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:08.279 because there were violence. You know, they're promoting violence, blah 396 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.039 blah blah. Yeah, but an individual and an artist has 397 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.319 a right to have these deeply felt beliefs that they 398 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.000 are occupied and there is a genocide. I don't agree 399 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.400 with that, I really don't. I haven't seen enough. I 400 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:28.079 haven't seen enough to make me go like wow, where 401 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.680