WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What? What's going to happen? 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:14.359 I'll take one? 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:28.640 What? Welcome everybody to the Headless Giant Podcast. I got 5 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.199 my buddy Nick here with me tonight and we're going 6 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:35.280 over some emails that you've sent in to Uncle Headless's 7 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:38.159 mystical mail bag. 8 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.079 I like that, mystical. Thanks. 9 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.840 So this is a response to one of the last 10 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:45.600 ones I read. 11 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:46.399 Uh. 12 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:49.679 It says this is Gareth Turner. He's the one with 13 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:53.880 the I believe it's the the ones from the UK. 14 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:56.920 So he says, I really need to approve me proof 15 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.439 read my work. Thanks for reading the last two experiences. 16 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.320 What you we said about disassociating parts of ourselves is 17 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.799 very interesting. Would love to be on the show if possible. 18 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:09.519 Got an interesting animal total in a protected wood in Dartmoor, UK, 19 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.280 me and a friend spent the night. A brief history. First, 20 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.799 I was drawn to this wood for no normal reason 21 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.280 other than a longing for years before and after some 22 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:22.879 research discovered it was ANSSI, or Site of the specific 23 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:27.400 Scientific Interest, which carries a penalty of one thousand dollars 24 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.719 a day if caught in the wood. What I had 25 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.879 been in a few times before, and it was enchanted 26 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.840 af and so I took a friend who would appreciate 27 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.959 such an unspoilt place. And as it is protected, it 28 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.879 has zero visitors, so it is really pristine for a 29 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:49.319 modern England. Basically to all to ourselves, although a danger 30 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:51.519 of getting caught, so we had to be quiet. We 31 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.560 set up a fire and part of the wood designated 32 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.640 an Ordnance Survey map as an ancient fort. It consisted 33 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.000 of a huge rammed earth work in a circle. It 34 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:05.840 had a shallow matt and most strikingly, the trees were 35 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:12.039 let me see, it had a shallow moat, and most strikingly, 36 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.240 there were trees in the fort to the outside. Those 37 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:19.439 outside were noticeably younger than those inside the mound fort. 38 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.520 We had made a small fire as we did not 39 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.759 want to be noticed. Even though we were very deep 40 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.919 in the wood, it was pitch black out for the firelight. 41 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.759 Out of nowhere came the sound of numerous hoofs galloping. 42 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.400 It was an unmistakable sound. Me and my friend grabbed 43 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.840 our axes and waited. It was nerve wracking, the absolute 44 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.280 silence and the hoof strikes, and then the sound of 45 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:43.759 hoofs departing and were reducing a noise. We both looked 46 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.000 at each other and didn't know what to say. The 47 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.960 woodland was so dense with trees that the number of 48 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.199 animals needed to make that noise wouldn't have been able 49 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:56.639 to approach. Like the noise pertained to it was a visitation, 50 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.599 a gift. My friend doesn't like to think about it, 51 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.319 rushes it off as nothing. For me, it was a welcome, 52 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:05.719 welcome to the woods, yet it was mine to find 53 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.919 in the first place, so passed my friend by as 54 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.639 I don't know what it was very clear that I 55 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.639 was completely weird experience to have, regardless of the dense woodland. 56 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.759 Dartmore itself is in southwest UK, a higher energy play, 57 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.759 so much myth and a lot of granite standing stones 58 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.800 from BC all over. What do you think of that? 59 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:27.560 The mysterious ghost writers? 60 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:30.840 I found it interesting that he mentioned the granite so 61 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.919 antia that always seems to be a commonality, well not always, 62 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:37.319 but it seems to pop up a lot things that 63 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.159 I've seen. You know, I don't know if it's just 64 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:43.039 made for TV theories, but you know I've seen that 65 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.240 on ghosts, you know, types shows and palanormal shows running 66 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.879 water and granite seemed to be a thing. 67 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:54.000 Sometimes I've been to places kind of like that you 68 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.759 can definitely tell they're enchanted. There was one in Austin. 69 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.680 I used to live just south of the Hill Country. 70 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.240 Hill Country just kind of pops up out of nowhere. 71 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:09.280 But just before that Hill Country is this little section 72 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:15.080 of I guess subdivision called Oak Hill and the Highway 73 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.879 thirty five goes right over top of the area, and 74 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.680 there's a bunch of bridges, well really close to one 75 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:26.120 of the bridges close to Dick Nichols Park there is 76 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.720 because at Dick Nichols Park there's a bunch of caves 77 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.199 and again back to that limestone right these limestone caves 78 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.959 at the park that are really really sketchy, like I 79 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:39.680 wouldn't try and get in there, and I try to 80 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.040 get in everywhere, you know, like they are very tight. 81 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:48.240 I've seen videos of people getting into them. Man, just 82 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.879 watching them, it looks like they're getting into their own graves. 83 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:52.959 You know, it's that tight to get in, but they say, oh, 84 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.160 it opens up a few feet back. But anyways, it's 85 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:00.759 really close to that at Dick Nichols Park area, but 86 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.439 it's a little bit past the park. You got to 87 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:04.920 go all the way back to the end of it, 88 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.160 and just off to the left, near to one of 89 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.319 these bridges is this stone circle, right, and this stone 90 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.839 circle has a bunch of Spanish moss hanging in it, 91 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.560 and nothing grows around this stone circle. It looks like 92 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.199 it might have been a campfire side at one time, 93 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.279 but nothing grows there. And I remember I was back 94 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:26.879 there with one of my friends one time. I was 95 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.439 just showing them around. You know, these places are fucking cool, 96 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:35.240 and the wind was blowing towards us, right, and there 97 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.279 was some kind of a blanket or something stuck up 98 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.680 in a tree, and I remember that the blanket was 99 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.000 blowing away from us as the wind was coming. So 100 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.199 there was strange happenings going on with the wind there, 101 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.040 and you just get this eerie feeling, like, you know, 102 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.480 what is this place? Why is it completely clear in 103 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.519 this area? You know? But I love to play in 104 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.000 the woods like that back when I was a kid. 105 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.920 It, Oh yeah, I was huge with going to the 106 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.279 woods and parks when I was a kid. Yeah, you know, 107 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.000 it's funny. That always did seem like like, I don't 108 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:07.639 know if it was like mystical to me, but I was. 109 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.519 There was a park called hit Up Pond Park by 110 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:12.399 me when I was a child. I used to go 111 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.079 there all the time with my father. It always seemed 112 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.360 like the most like amazing shit to me, and like 113 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:18.920 the place was so big that it's just like every 114 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:20.519 time you saw a new area, it was just like, oh, 115 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.959 but I kind of get like what they were saying, 116 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.439 Like there's been times where I've been like in certain 117 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:27.839 places where it almost even seems like the atmosphere like 118 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.759 kind of lightens up, Like when you walk into it 119 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.959 to see it, you almost feel like light or something 120 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.959 changes as some sort of energetic change. 121 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.199 Oh yeah, there's places like that. You know, they're all 122 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.680 around us, and yet we don't take them as seriously 123 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.279 as you know the ancients, did you know those were 124 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.560 those were sites of power to the ancients. To us, 125 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.360 they're like a little mild curiosity, probably because we're not 126 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.399 living outside basically. But once you get into it, once 127 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.279 you can feel it. I think there's so many deeper 128 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.600 levels you can find at places like that. 129 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.839 You know, a lot of times whenever I felt that too. 130 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.160 It's always in a place that like normally doesn't have 131 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:06.959 humans there exact anything to do with it. 132 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.839 Right, maybe a portal, some sort of a bridge area, 133 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:14.040 Like I remember this place. It definitely felt like there 134 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.879 were some other entities just hanging out at this one 135 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.560 spot because it wasn't just the trees wouldn't grow in 136 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:26.240 the circle. It was like nothing would grow in the circle. Yeah. Like, 137 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.759 so there's a bunch of groundcover. In the springtime in Texas, 138 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.639 we get bluebells and they just cover everything. It's just 139 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:39.680 like a carpet of bluebells everywhere. Blue bells all outside 140 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.000 this place. But once you come into it, everything on 141 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.800 the ground is dead. It looks like it was freshly burned. 142 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.680 But it looked like it was freshly burned for all 143 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.639 the years that I've lived there, So there was nothing 144 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:49.920 growing there. It was crazy. 145 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.240 It was like a small little nuclear bomb that just 146 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:55.759 just did that. You know, it was like a radiation spill. 147 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:01.240 I have noticed twice. Now wouldn't consider it maybe, well, 148 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.079 I guess it would be a cult. But like there 149 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.160 was some sort of like Marian apparition and some sort 150 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:08.600 of cult that I had covered or was looking into 151 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.079 that I had noticed. Both of them did have like 152 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.680 this thing where a circle of trees that they did. 153 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:17.879 There's stuff in so that sounds interesting when you mentioned that, 154 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:19.639 that's what I thought about it. I'm sure that may 155 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.959 not be the issue, but I would just wonder, like 156 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:25.319 the circle of trees means something to some people that 157 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:27.000 use it for some certain reasons. 158 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.600 Right Well, I think there's a reason why the Christian 159 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.200 churches were built on top of the Pagan churches. And 160 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.559 it wasn't just to cover up the Pagan churches. It 161 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:37.960 was to you know, start using the same kind of power. 162 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.879 Because the more you get into the Christian histories and 163 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.960 see how many crossovers there are, and when you learn 164 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:47.120 about the Greek and Latin languages, you find out that 165 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.840 the gods were put into the language. So even the 166 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.440 Bible itself is full of these gods, you know, because 167 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.519 it's all their attributes and all the rest of the stuff. 168 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.240 And then when you find out about sort of the 169 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:02.320 pagan undertones of you know, the the chapels and everything else, 170 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.039 it's like, how could it not be We're just got 171 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.879 off from that kind of knowledge. Nowadays, I don't think 172 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:12.200 we are emotionally, we can still feel it, you know. 173 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.960 So this is what I got from Joe Ferguson. He's 174 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:20.240 riding back with another dream. He says, hey, guys, this 175 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:23.080 show riding back with the other dream I had probably 176 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:24.679 around the same time. This is the guy who had 177 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.120 the marrying apparition dream with the pond and the fish 178 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:34.720 and the horses, the cherryt right in this dream, I remember, 179 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.360 I was in a farm next to this fence like 180 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.480 the one they found Matthew Shepherd's body on. That was 181 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.440 always a haunting picture to me. Do you remember that. 182 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:45.639 No, I don't even know who Matthew Shepard is. I'll 183 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.559 look it up when you're talking. 184 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:51.639 Okay, I do not know what they are called. There 185 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.840 was this mud pit, but it had more water than mud, 186 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.519 so I guess like a murky bog. So I'm there 187 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.440 with what you might think of as an hour African 188 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:05.440 witch doctor, the stereotypical shirtless, muddy, white faced man in 189 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.679 a loincloth with a bone through his nose, and there 190 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:13.039 is to show me the ritual of how flying pigs 191 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.480 catch their prey. A little bit later, a flying pig 192 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.720 comes to the water body and it flies straight up 193 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:22.879 into the air. The witch doctor shaman instructs me to 194 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.559 go under the water so that I can witness the event. 195 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:27.960 So I stick my head in the bog and I 196 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.320 see the top of the mud. Is I see the 197 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.000 top of the mud and start squirming. Now, if you've 198 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:38.919 ever watched like Nature shows, they have a camera under 199 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:40.879 the water, so you can imagine what it looked like. 200 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.960 So I'm watching the mud start to wriggle, and the 201 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.600 pig shoots straight down into the water and it penetrates 202 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.559 the mud. Like hundreds of snakes start coming up, and 203 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.399 the pig just starts gobbling them up. And honestly, I 204 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:55.480 don't remember much after that, but like the Merry and Dream, 205 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.519 this one has stuck with me, especially that part. Thanks again, 206 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:05.240 the pig is hunting snakes in the mud. Of this thing, 207 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.039 the flying pigs, it's kind of interesting. 208 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.320 Yeah, I like how like I had a bone through 209 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:11.960 his nose too. 210 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.919 I hate to do it, but I got to take 211 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.759 it back to the Greek again. So when Perseus cut 212 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:29.080 the head off of Medusa, Pegasus came flying out of 213 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.440 the neck hole along with a much more mysterious character. 214 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:37.840 And this was Pegasus's twin brother, and this was a 215 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:42.279 golden sword. And the golden sword can also appear as 216 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:47.440 a as a pig and his name was Chrisius. And 217 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:52.159 so this Christius character is kind of like a universal 218 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:55.559 soul like it it's never really obvious that it's there, 219 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.039 but it's kind of like in the background as being 220 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.559 sort of like I don't know, sort of a character 221 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.639 in the background that just sort of pops up every 222 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.320 time there's a battle or something, this Christius type energy 223 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:12.279 pops up. And so, uh, Christius, this pig slash sword, 224 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:17.240 and I'm seeing that as being related to the the 225 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:21.840 snakes again, because like if you take the tetramorph of 226 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:25.720 the Catholic Church, the four different angels, and one he's 227 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.360 got a sword that's it's supposed to be like Michael, 228 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:32.559 but he's got a sword that's all wavy, like a 229 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:37.919 like a snake. Right, So the pig, the snake, and 230 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.480 this mud hole having something to do with maybe a 231 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:47.440 kid who's got aids. Matthew Shepherd's the guy. 232 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:50.519 That's right, Yeah, yeah, it was that was I noticed. 233 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.720 It was a it was a gay crime or whatever 234 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.960 they call it forgot a crime, hate crime because he 235 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:56.360 was gay. 236 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:01.159 Right. So the the image that I see, they always 237 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.840 show the place where they found Matthew Shepherd, which was 238 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:10.480 on this barbed wire fence, right, And so to me, 239 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.519 these dreams sort of have a kind of a quality 240 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:18.399 to it of like kind of a foreboding sense, because 241 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.120 you've got the murkiness of the water, which is sort 242 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:26.000 of like uncertainty, can't see through it. But there's also 243 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:31.159 stuff in the water like snakes, and then in combination 244 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.519 with this Matthew Shepherd type environment sort of like in 245 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:41.080 the wilderness and being guided by the shaman, right, so 246 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:44.360 the shaman guy is sort of like showing you what 247 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.600 you need to see from this dream. And it has 248 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.759 to do with flying pigs when pigs fly, some sort 249 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:55.440 of improbability about it. 250 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.399 It made me think, I mean the pig, I don't 251 00:13:58.440 --> 00:13:59.720 know what's up with that. And it made me think 252 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.919 of Pink Floyd with their flying pigs. But I mean 253 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.200 the dark I guess, like the mud and the snakes 254 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.200 very very much to me, is very like I forgot 255 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.240 his name, very Cuthu like or H. P. Lovecraft kind 256 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.000 of it made me think of stuff like that, or 257 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.639 you know, stuff tied with like maybe the chaos of 258 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.679 the abyss and shit like that, just you know, symbolism 259 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:18.960 like that. 260 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:20.919 I kind of thought of to an extent. 261 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.480 Well, I think the reason why Chrisius was this pig 262 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.759 was because of the iron working capabilities of the Gulls 263 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.320 and the Celts. Because the gulls in the Celts were 264 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:38.240 the first ones to have chainmail armor and they actually 265 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:42.480 sacked Rome in like three something BC. They were the 266 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.039 first ones of sack rome and so they had the 267 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:51.080 best iron armor and best iron blades at that time, 268 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.320 even though they preferred to fight naked, and their symbol 269 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.159 was always the bore. So the pig and the sword 270 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.200 pig iron. I don't if you've ever heard of pig iron, 271 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:02.279 but it's a pretty yay. 272 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.639 Yeah, I've heard I've heard people use that for you know, 273 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:06.840 at the gym for weights. 274 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:08.600 I've heard people call pig iron. 275 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:14.399 Right. So, the the pig iron itself is unrefined. It's it. 276 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:17.000 They don't carbonize it, so it's not steal yet. It's 277 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:19.720 just it's the most basic iron you can get. It 278 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.600 hasn't been refined at all. But the idea there is 279 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.480 that it comes from the bogs, back to the bogs. 280 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.080 Sell bog iron is how they would do this, And 281 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:33.240 what they do is they would look for these springs 282 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.399 and the springs would have a lot of iron in them, 283 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:42.759 and so the iron would get absorbed by the bacteria 284 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:47.039 that goes around the spring. So as you're watching the 285 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.399 little bubbles come up, you can actually collect a lot 286 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.360 of that clay and it's got the bodies of these 287 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:55.000 bacteria that have died, and you put that into a 288 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.039 furnace and you get iron out. So the very first 289 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:03.000 iron that you got was from the bog iron. Something 290 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.120 having to do with snakes and again back to that 291 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.799 Christius kind of character. So it's it's interesting. I like, 292 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:10.759 I like how how interconnected these things are. When you 293 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.919 when you have just a little bit of context, you. 294 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.000 Think of the snakes as our veins going down our 295 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.000 arms carrying iron in it. 296 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:20.519 We got that too. 297 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:26.519 That was a very interesting dream. 298 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.559 All right. So this one is double J. He says, 299 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:32.759 I was patrolling an NY City hotel hallway looking to 300 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:36.240 bust some ghosts. We have never tested our equipment, so 301 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:40.000 it was the first attempt at using a nuclear reactor 302 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:45.000 backpack to catch a ghost. I guess it's just ghost busting, don't. 303 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.320 Know, Is that is it? You said, double J? Is 304 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:47.120 that JJ? Vance? 305 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:53.279 Yes it is? You got me? 306 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.519 Yeah, I was gonna say, what did he troll you? 307 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.120 At least read it when you said double J. I 308 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.279 was like, wait, I think that JJ when he emails me. 309 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.319 It could be a dream or something. Anyways, he goes. 310 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.319 I was away from the rest of my team patrolling 311 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.759 one of the upper floors of the hotel by myself. 312 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.279 I figured it might as well light up a cigarette. 313 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:14.279 Just as I started taking a puff of my smoke, 314 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.960 this disembodied green spirit came out of nowhere. Luckily I 315 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.000 was quick enough to attack it before it attacked me. However, 316 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.519 the laser beam from my nuclear reactor backpack did quite 317 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.119 a bit of damage. Maybe I will catch one next 318 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.599 one next time. Hope you enjoyed, good luck, godspeed, JJ 319 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.160 vance in the son of a Bitch. I know you 320 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:35.240 walked it right now, JJ. 321 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:36.519 Yeah he is, He just commented. 322 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.680 Do on my side said all my mistake, I conflated 323 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:42.359 my life with the story of Ghostbuster. 324 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.119 That that is a frequent mistake that a lot of 325 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:50.359 people make, confusing their own life with the ghostbumter. 326 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:50.839 Yeah. 327 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.440 Yeah, speaking of Ghostbusters, believe it or not, this interview 328 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:56.559 out there we can find Dan Akroyd actually admitting that 329 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.519 that movie was supposed to be made about it was 330 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.200 based on a cult ideas, right. 331 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:02.960 He does say that actually. 332 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:05.960 You should read the first draft of it because he 333 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.599 puts so much more occultism in there, and they're like, 334 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:09.640 we can't do this, this is. 335 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.039 Too much Joe. He said that. 336 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.759 He said that when he first gave it to him, 337 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.640 they were like no, because one they said it was 338 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:16.960 gonna be way too expensive because it was NonStop from 339 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.519 the beginning to end, tons of stuff. And then for 340 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.559 some reason they were like, we'll do it if you 341 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:23.599 get it was a Rick Moranus or whatever, if you 342 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:25.599 do the movie with him and rewrite it. So, I 343 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:27.400 mean it already sounded like they're screwing him anyway and 344 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:28.359 bringing somebody else in. 345 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.079 But yeah, he did. 346 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:31.960 Say that it was had a lot of a cult 347 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.359 and there was The original was way way different. 348 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.920 I'll tell you what. Dan Ackward's on a whole different level. 349 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:43.400 He's on all these UFO documentaries. I remember he was 350 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.200 a big fan of The Secret Teachings of All Ages 351 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:46.880 by Manly P. 352 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:47.279 Hall. 353 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:51.519 That's one of his favorite books. There's just so much 354 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.640 stuff there. I'd love to pick his brain sometime. 355 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.079 Yeah, it's definitely interesting stuff. With the whole GHST supposed 356 00:18:58.119 --> 00:18:58.400 to think. 357 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:07.119 Indeed, let me see, do we have any more? I 358 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.599 think that's it, So. 359 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:11.839 I don't know great experiences yourself. 360 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:17.119 My ticker back up there. So guys, if you want 361 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.160 to have your emails read, you can always email me 362 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.279 at the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com. I 363 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:32.680 have a couple of ones that I got in in Twitter. 364 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:34.480 Oh nice, nice. 365 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.440 So do you remember Raven Kiefer? 366 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.960 Yeah, yeah, yes, yes I do. Maybe me one. 367 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:43.960 We gotta get him back up. 368 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.640 I was gonna say, you probably has a bunch of 369 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:50.279 crazy stories. Oh I can see that from. 370 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:53.640 He says, enjoyed the mail back showed with NYP. Here's 371 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.000 one from my earlier years. I was twenty three twenty 372 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.519 four years old and had times where I the need 373 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.119 for speed. I had a truck, snowmobile, dirt bike, and 374 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:07.440 a fast street bike speed for all kinds of weather. 375 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:10.279 One night I decided I was taking the street bike 376 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:14.079 out for a run. Went out, sat down, sat down 377 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.559 on the seat and started it. And then this feeling 378 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.319 ran down my spine and into my gut. Danger. I 379 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.319 shut off the bike, lit a smoke and started to 380 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:28.680 go back inside internal dialogue. Nah Le's bs started back up. 381 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.759 Rolled down the driveway and the feeling hit again. I 382 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.400 stopped and shook off the feeling, and then rolled down 383 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.920 to the first major intersection. That feeling came on like fire. 384 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.000 I turned around and rolled back towards the house. The 385 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.799 closer I got to the house, the further the feeling 386 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.880 went away. So I went past the house and toward 387 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:50.319 the four lane rather than the river road. Got up 388 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.400 to a decent speed and cruised passed a couple of ramps, 389 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.440 a couple off ramps, and then that feeling came back, 390 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.400 heavy and urgent. Pulled up next ramp and almost went 391 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:04.720 across the overpass and back home. I let it up. 392 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.759 I talked myself into taking off, cranking out the speed 393 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.759 and through the gears. About five miles out, the spokes 394 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.160 on the front wheel blew apart and the forks jammed up, 395 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.279 dropping down to the pavement, flipping me over the bars, 396 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.440 turning the bike down the lanes. I braced for it. 397 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.000 I tucked chin and pulled my arms in armored gear 398 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.559 and even anticipated the paint on the way. Somehow I 399 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:32.160 stopped sliding and was in the grass off the shoulder 400 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:35.039 of the road, not on the road, felt like something 401 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:38.680