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Speaker 1: What's going on in the world of Cougar Athletics.

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the hotline. Welcome in former b WHYU Athletic Director. We

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got Rondo Felberg on the line. Rondo, how are you living.

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Speaker 2: Great? Obviously after last weekend? How could I not be great? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, three in a row that hasn't

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happened since the early nineties. It's a bit of a

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monumental turning of the tide, if you will. In this

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rivalry game. You were there in attendance, You saw it.

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What are you seeing from your perch? Why is it

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that BYU is finally capable of getting it on a

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winning streak now in the modern era.

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Speaker 2: Well, the short answer is, I don't know. It seems

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to me to be more about Utah's weaknesses than BYU strings.

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Having said that, BYU is solid across the board. You

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look at that team. There are no weaknesses, not unbelievably

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great anywhere, but they are strong everywhere, and so you've

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got a BYU team that really doesn't have any weaknesses.

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And so any team that is coming to the game

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with weaknesses, if BYU can find them, they'll exploit them.

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And they did that against Utah. They've done that every game.

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They've got a great coaching staff and they do a

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wonderful job of finding the weaknesses in the opposing team

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and exploiting them. Sometimes that reveals itself just by looking

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at the films that are provided to them of the

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preceding games. Sometimes it happens right there on the field.

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And we watched that the other night. We saw BYU

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and dust its game plan on the fly, and oh

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my goodness, it was so fun to watch them pound

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all Jane Martin and Bear Blackmeyer and and all of

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a sudden, the wide receivers, well not just wide receivers,

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because our Carson ryan Is plays like a wide receiver,

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but they those guys became decoys. And every time you thought,

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oh my goodness, they're just decoys, I'm gonna ignore them, boom,

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next thing you know, they've caught a pass and away

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they go. So it was it was just really fun

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for me to watch.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm telling you right now this this BYU football

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teams doing some monumental things. And one of the things

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that I've been studying here Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 1: When he has to.

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Speaker 3: Play in the same conference as b YU, the Mountain

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West Conference Sarah as the head coach from two thousand

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and five to twenty ten and then most recently the

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last two seasons in the Big Twelve, he's actually only

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three and five three wins, five losses in the rivalry.

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So I wonder if conference affiliation and equal resources have

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something to do with it.

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Speaker 1: What say you?

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Speaker 2: That's a possibility?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think. I think BYU had a real step up

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of when they came into the Big Twelve. I think

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it was more about BYU entering the Big Twelve from

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independence than they being in the same conference as UTAH.

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I don't think they had to be in the same conference.

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They just had to have access to the resources that

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come from being in a power conference.

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Speaker 1: It sure helps, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Rondo, What does the future from your perspective look like

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for BYU athletics now that they do have equal resources,

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Now they are on an even playing field with not

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only you, Dah, but the likes of college football.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Brian Santiago is a great choice as

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an athletic director. Brian is the guy that we need

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right now. Brian is smart, he's experienced, and Brian can

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be tough when he needs to be tough. Nobody's going

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to push Brian around. And he's the right guy in

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the right place at the right time. And so I'm

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delighted that we have Brian there now. I'm also delighted

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that we've got mister smooth as glass Chad Lewis standing

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right behind him with the big smile on his face.

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Speaker 1: It does help. They have the right people booing you up.

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Speaker 3: You're only as good as the people you hire and

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the people that are taking some of the admin load

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there in the athletic department.

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Speaker 1: And you know that better than anybody.

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Speaker 3: You got to hire the right people around you in

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order to find success. And right now, BYU's positioned competitively

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to make waves not only in the football world, but

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the basketball world. I don't know which one you're more

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excited about. If you're a fan of the basketball team

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or the football team. What about you, where's your level

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of excitement compared to these two.

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Speaker 2: This is going to sound a little bit corny, but

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it depends on the season in the year. Right now,

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I'm more excited about football. Two months from now, I'll

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have a different answer.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm right there with you. UNC's coming to town,

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which is pretty crazy. You talk about the high profile

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football games that BYU finally has under the lights of

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lavel Fox, big noon kickoff game day wanting to come

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to town as well. Well, some of the premier basketball

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blue bloods are coming to pro now as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean it was interesting that sort

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of the behind the scenes on negotiating that went on. Basically,

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North Carolina said that would be suicide to come to

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the Marriage Center. We're not going there, and so the

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compromise was the Delta Center. Now, the Delta Center is

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about as close to home court advantage as by you

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could have. But they're willing to play us there, but

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they would not play us in the Marriage Center.

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Speaker 3: And I think, b why you's paying them a hefty

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sum of five hundred thousand dollars or so just to

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come to the Delta Center.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is another thing that is a nice luxury

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to have. It's nice to have boosters and supporters who

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are willing to put their money where their mouths are

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and and and provide that kind of of arsenal uh

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for Kevin Young and Colony's taki to do what they

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Speaker 3: Did we have did we have the donor base? So like,

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two thousands, and you know, there we were under.

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Speaker 1: Different UH rule by the n C double A.

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Speaker 3: It was an arbitrary rule, this oligopoly, this this college

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athletics cabal that that that would essentially cut the legs

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out from everyone. UH, that that went against the blue bloods.

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what they are willing to pay for players, for coaches,

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for their organizational design?

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Speaker 1: Did BYU in the nineties?

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Speaker 3: And if let's go back in the past and if

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we had the free market system that we have right

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now that could allocate as much funds as we wanted to,

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did we have the donor base to execute back in

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the nineties like we are in present day with the

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resources that we have, If we didn't have the rules

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and regulations of the past.

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Speaker 2: We had the donor base, and we had willing donors. Yeah,

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we just wouldn't cheat.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The difference between US then and US now is just

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a BYU will not cheat. Back then, everybody else was cheating,

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and that's really what's happened. The change in college athletics

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has been that the coaches who were similar to BYU

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and the administrators finally just drew up their hands and said,

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we're not going to do it anymore. And so they

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just said, Okay, everybody can do what these other guys

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have been doing for the last several decades and not

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acknowledging it. And so when what the other guys used

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to do, which was cheat, became fair game, all of

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a sudden, you saw the depth of the BYU donor base.

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I cannot tell you how many times I met with willing,

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unbelievably supportive BYU boosters and supporters who wanted to help

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out and were more than willing to write the checks.

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But we would have to have them literally write a

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check to bring them young university. And you look at

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the magnificent facilities all across campus that we had because

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it couldn't be channeled back then straight to the athletic

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department like it can now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's interesting in and of itself because it

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had to go to the school first philanthropies and then

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trickle down to the athletic department.

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Speaker 1: When did that change?

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Speaker 3: When did when could you finally donate directly to the

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athletic department and the athletic department get was able to

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maybe just eat what it killed. As far as the

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donor corporate sponsorship avenues that they have in the present day.

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Speaker 2: Well, you may recall there was a swimmer at Arizona

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State University by the name of Grant House who sued

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Arizona State and the NCAA claiming that that they were

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using the athletes naming, imaging likeness and not allowing the

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athlete to benefit from it, and that that was an

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unfair restraint on trade and it compromised their courte constitutional rights.

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That went all the way to the Supreme Court. But

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that was what changed as the as the trial court first,

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then the appeals court next ruled in favor of House,

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and it was headed to the Supreme Court. That's when

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the NCAA finally shrugged their shoulders and said we get it,

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and so they lifted all of those those restrictions and barriers,

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and so it would have come anyway, I think at

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some point. But what precipitated it was the House case.

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Speaker 3: But more so than anything of what I was trying

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to get at, And I didn't properly formulate the question

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when did it occur within BYU as an institution for

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donors to be able to directly contribute funds to the

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Athletic Department rather than the just the institution happened.

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Speaker 2: It happened as soon as the NCAA lifted the lid.

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as soon as the NCAA said all right, we get it,

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BYU was right there. We were ready, and we had

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donors that were ready, and Tom Holmo and Brian Santiago

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and all of those other guys in the Athletic Department

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had made sure that those relationships were intact and that

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those potential donors were ready. And I can tell you

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that there's no better group of donors on the planet

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than our donors. I loved, loved, loved that part of

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my job when I was Athletic Director was going out

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and meeting with donors and meeting with these people who

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were just they basically said you just tell us what

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and when, and it was. It was a fun thing.

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Speaker 1: Rondo Felberg, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Former BYU athletic director pontificating on the past and what

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could have been had the athletic department operated under the

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same rules. We were just waiting for the floodgates to

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be open. We were just waiting for the approval to

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do it in a fair way where all of the

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the institutions could compete at the same level. I love it, Rondo,

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real quick, what do you think the record will be

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in the next five games for the BAYU Cougar? Do

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you think they end up undefeated in the regular season

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and head to the Big twelve championship game.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I have a weakness as a former athletic administrator,

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I was a fan long before I was an administrator,

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and so.

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Speaker 4: It's very hard for me to to sort of calm

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my emotions down and use just my head than my

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analytic ability.

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Speaker 2: But my heart says BYU is going undefeated and BYU

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is going to do what they need to do. I mean,

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there is nothing better in the whole world for the

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grander mission of BYU Athletics than for our football and

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basketball teams, which are most visible sports to be successful.

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When those young men and young women with their smiling

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faces and their badges on their chests knock on doors,

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there is nothing better in the world for them than

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the people on the other side of the door to

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have been watching BYU Sports on TV and say, come

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on in. I don't really know that much about what

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you want to talk about. I want to talk about

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this bear Bachmeier kid. Can we take a few minutes

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to talk about him? Well, of course, stionnaries become instant

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pretend experts on all things bear Bachmeyer, all things to

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do with Kevin Young and Kevin's programming, and that gets

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him in the doors and then everything else always from there.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Ronda, We appreciate you, Love you, and thanks

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so much for spending some time with us in this segment.

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Let us know if you need anything from us. We

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look forward to chatting with you in the press box

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once again later on this year. There you have it.

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That's Rondo Felberg. Shout out to him former BYU Athletic director.

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