Speaker 1: All right, let's go freend Rug and Rodney Pink on
Speaker 1: a five to seventy LA sports. This is what happens
Speaker 1: when you're the stand by guys. We were on standby,
Speaker 1: and to be very honest with you, if we're going
Speaker 1: to be one thousand percent honest with you, we thought
Speaker 1: we'd be on much sooner than this because we thought
Speaker 1: the Dodgers were going to win.
Speaker 2: So we were ready.
Speaker 1: To go an hour an hour long today because if
Speaker 1: they don't have that complete collapse and debacle, the game
Speaker 1: would have been over much sooner. So, Rodney, as you
Speaker 1: were sitting there watching that this afternoon, what is running
Speaker 1: through your mind?
Speaker 3: I'm like you, fret, I was thinking. First of all,
Speaker 3: we were on standby also because there was rain in
Speaker 3: the forecast in Cleveland, and so we weren't sure if
Speaker 3: the game was going.
Speaker 2: To be called delayed, called early.
Speaker 3: But once they got past the fifth inning and they
Speaker 3: got into the sixth, and it was going to be
Speaker 3: a complete game, regardless of the score, regardless of the inning.
Speaker 3: And after that, he figured we would go on and
Speaker 3: have at least an hour, right, at least an hour,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe even more than that, because I thought and
Speaker 3: then they showed the clips of it's starting to rain
Speaker 3: a little bit, and you were hoping, You're hoping that
Speaker 3: that game got called in the seventh, because in the
Speaker 3: eighth all hell broke loose. For itd all hell broke
Speaker 3: loose in the seventh or in the eighth, And I
Speaker 3: felt I felt bad for h I felt bad for
Speaker 3: Kershaw because he you know, he struggled in that first inning,
Speaker 3: but he held them to one run and he.
Speaker 2: Would have got the win. Red, he would have got
Speaker 2: the win. Yeah, he looked good. You have to get
Speaker 2: into him. He looked good.
Speaker 1: But I think now, and as I've said all along,
Speaker 1: the regular season is this long journey to get to
Speaker 1: where you need to be. And I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna panic or worry about anything. There'll be ups and
Speaker 1: they'll be downs, and you adjust to them because at
Speaker 1: the end we know, we know how this has got
Speaker 1: to play out. But now I do have concerns about
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott. And it's the first time this season I've said.
Speaker 2: Anything like that.
Speaker 1: I think there need to be genuine concerns about him.
Speaker 1: They signed him to I think a four year deal, yeah,
Speaker 1: for a lot of money, and the Dodgers don't do
Speaker 1: that with relievers, and he was the best reliever on
Speaker 1: the market. So they said, we're just gonna wrap this
Speaker 1: up right now here. You go, get in here and
Speaker 1: do your thing. Close these games. You've beaten us in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, well now you can beat them with us
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And he has not looked good. He has really struggled.
Speaker 1: To a point as I was watching that, there's only
Speaker 1: really a couple of choices here. I mean, you cannot
Speaker 1: keep sending him out to get beat like this. They
Speaker 1: have to make some adjustments there. And Dave Roberts says,
Speaker 1: the problem is Rodney. He's just throwing the ball down
Speaker 1: the middle. He can't close guys out. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we talked about that yesterday. He can't close it out
Speaker 1: and he's losing his location. Because you remember, he started
Speaker 1: the season pretty good. He was he was good.
Speaker 3: We were happy, and I think we were all happy
Speaker 3: that we signed him because he was one of the
Speaker 3: best in baseball last year and you know, sign him
Speaker 3: to a lot of money. Started off good, but then
Speaker 3: the last five starts, I think he's blown three saves
Speaker 3: in the last five opportunities, and I think three in
Speaker 3: a row. So it's not really it's not been good
Speaker 3: for him. And again it could be red. It could
Speaker 3: be it could be as simple as I am, I'm
Speaker 3: missing my location, I'm not hitting my spots. I've got
Speaker 3: to go back to maybe there's something in my mechanics,
Speaker 3: because you don't all of a sudden go from being
Speaker 3: one of the best to you know, struggling like he
Speaker 3: is and giving up long balls like he is overnight.
Speaker 3: Something has to change, and they're either in his delivery,
Speaker 3: or something is bothering him, something is maybe ailing or hurt,
Speaker 3: or he's injured a little bit right now that he's
Speaker 3: not feeling one hundred percent something like that, because it
Speaker 3: doesn't just go from from him being really good to
Speaker 3: him being terrible in the same season or within a month.
Speaker 1: And that's why one of two things are gonna happen
Speaker 1: in my mind. A, they're gonna have to take him
Speaker 1: out of that role for a while. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to take him out, just give him some time, let
Speaker 1: him work on things, don't put him in those situations
Speaker 1: until he reclaims what he lost. So that's a they
Speaker 1: can do that, or B he goes on the I
Speaker 1: l there's something wrong, and even really, if there's nothing wrong,
Speaker 1: it's the old look. I think your shoulders bothering you. No,
Speaker 1: it's not, yes it is, yes, it is. Let's regroup here.
Speaker 1: I think those are your only two options at this point,
Speaker 1: because you can't keep sending him out to do this.
Speaker 1: You just can't. I mean, he's and does he want
Speaker 1: to give up these these hits?
Speaker 2: No? Does he want to blow the saves? No?
Speaker 1: I think I heard Dave Vasse say in the postgame
Speaker 1: show the Dodgers and Red Sox now lead the majors
Speaker 1: and blown saves. Yeah, I think both teams have twelve.
Speaker 1: You didn't sign Tanner Scott for that reason, and I
Speaker 1: believe he's got five of the twelve, and last year,
Speaker 1: the entire year, I think he had two or three.
Speaker 1: That's not why you paid him for four years to
Speaker 1: come in here and lose games. He's the guy that's
Speaker 1: supposed to shut the game down and let's get the
Speaker 1: hell out of here and go to the airport and
Speaker 1: fly home.
Speaker 2: Not what happened.
Speaker 1: And then you put poor Vessia in Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what the Dodgers do.
Speaker 3: They fill Bickford people. You know what that means you mean,
Speaker 3: overwork them, over use them.
Speaker 1: They feel Bickford them Casparius for example, Oh you talk
Speaker 1: about a guy's putting in some work.
Speaker 3: Sarious, Oh my god, they get him feels like he
Speaker 3: picked his every day.
Speaker 1: I know he does, and I think he does. And
Speaker 1: dry now they get Phil Bickford. Get out your and go,
Speaker 1: just keep going. Don't see your arm fall off. So
Speaker 1: your arm falls off, and then we let you go.
Speaker 1: But damn it, when you're out there, you're pretty good.
Speaker 1: And now that's happened to Vesier. John Ronni's pitching every
Speaker 1: day every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't sustain that. I mean you said
Speaker 3: it that the Dodgers in the and the Red Sox
Speaker 3: have the most blown saves, But the Dodgers lead the
Speaker 3: beg leagues by far, and most appearances by by the bullpen,
Speaker 3: most innings by the bullpen, and so there they are
Speaker 3: absolutely overworked. Remember how lights out Vessia was last year
Speaker 3: for them. They don't win a World Series if Vessia
Speaker 3: doesn't come in and do the things he did and
Speaker 3: some big time spots for them last year. But I
Speaker 3: think now he's he's overworked, and I think the whole
Speaker 3: bullpen looks tired for it. They do because they're not
Speaker 3: getting any length out of the starters. And on top
Speaker 3: of that, the end to the starters, they had to
Speaker 3: have more bullpen games, and you know, you look up
Speaker 3: and the bullpens in at the fourth inning. They're sometimes
Speaker 3: in in a third inning. And we've seen that a
Speaker 3: lot this year where the bullpen's had to start their
Speaker 3: sessions in a third or fourth inning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know they're overworked. We know the starters are hurt.
Speaker 1: We understand all of that. There are no excuses, it's
Speaker 1: a statement of reality. But what you cannot excuse is
Speaker 1: the one guy you have signed to hammer it shot,
Speaker 1: to close it down, to wrap it up and let's go.
Speaker 1: If that guy is getting beat that's a real problem.
Speaker 1: I understand the bullpen is overworked, Yes, and they are
Speaker 1: going to be hiccups along the way because they're overworked. Understood,
Speaker 1: got it. We all appreciate that. We know when the
Speaker 1: starters get back it'll be a different story. We know
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 2: But the one guy.
Speaker 1: That can't get beat up is the only guy who
Speaker 1: signed to close the game. Now, Blake Trianon's hurt, don't know,
Speaker 1: Evan Phillips. We don't know Copek he's throwing. When will
Speaker 1: he be back, how healthy will he be? So there
Speaker 1: are guys that are going to come back, maybe not
Speaker 1: as soon for Evan Phillips fingers crossed, but there are
Speaker 1: guys coming back. But none of those guys were supposed
Speaker 1: to be Tanner Scott, none of those guys were supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Shut it down right now. If you remember
Speaker 1: last year, the Dodgers kind of did it by committee.
Speaker 1: They did it by matchup, so sometimes you'd see Evan Phillips,
Speaker 1: sometimes you would see Vessia. It just depended. But this
Speaker 1: year they went back Rodney to the traditional we've got
Speaker 1: the guy. Oh don't forget Kirby Yates, whom I think
Speaker 1: has thirty some odd saves last year.
Speaker 2: He's hurt yep. Yeah, and to be fair, swear go ahead.
Speaker 3: He hasn't looked great when he's been in No, he
Speaker 3: hasn't and and apparently he's been hurt that's why he's down.
Speaker 3: So it's just the Yes, they've been hit by incredible
Speaker 3: amount of injuries, but at the same time, you got
Speaker 3: to deliver. If you're out there, you know, nobody cares
Speaker 3: if you're out there and you're in uniform, you're on
Speaker 3: the mound, you're playing, then you gotta deliver or you
Speaker 3: shouldn't be out there, and you gotta you gotta let
Speaker 3: people know that I'm not feeling great. If that is
Speaker 3: the case with Tanner Scott. Remember we went that through
Speaker 3: that with the Suzaki where he, you know, was feeling
Speaker 3: the pressure to go pitch because there were so many
Speaker 3: guys hurt and he didn't want to tell anybody. Well
Speaker 3: he did a disservice because he wasn't very sharp. And
Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case with Tanner Scott, but
Speaker 3: but man, he's got to get it going. And you're right,
Speaker 3: is last year, you know, between Trying and Kopek, you
Speaker 3: had your two closers. I mean, depending on who they
Speaker 3: went to, those guys were pretty lights out and and
Speaker 3: at that point you got to there's no way in
Speaker 3: the world that Dodgers did have lost that game.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 3: You know, the way they're rolling through that, it was
Speaker 3: like it was a cruise fest and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you look up, wait they lost. They're going
Speaker 3: on their way to a sweep and they lose it
Speaker 3: and get it and blows up in the eighth Inny. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that that just got to hurt for that plane ride
Speaker 3: back for them. You know, if you think about it,
Speaker 3: at this time, Tanner Scott is pitching just a tad
Speaker 3: bit better than Devin Williams of the Yankees. And Devin Williams,
Speaker 3: who was one of the top closers in the game
Speaker 3: for years, went to the Yankees during the offseason. He
Speaker 3: has been just a dumpster fire. The Angels almost beat
Speaker 3: him last night. He was relieved to get out of
Speaker 3: the game. And I think the guy up for the
Speaker 3: Angels at the end, they had a run around third.
Speaker 3: The count is three and on he swings. I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: The count's three and zero and he and he pitch
Speaker 3: it for Chris Taylor right started. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 3: he came in in pontificalayl.
Speaker 2: He swings it's three and ah, pop out game over.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? I mean, that's why the Angels
Speaker 2: are the Angels? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: But the point is Devin Williams has been struggling all
Speaker 1: season long to a point where they thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna lose the job there and now you look at
Speaker 1: what's happening here with Tanner Scott. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: you cannot give up a three run lead in the
Speaker 1: eighth inning. You cannot do that. You can't bring your
Speaker 1: closer in in a high leverage Let's get out of here.
Speaker 1: Shut him down right now, we'll get to the ninth boom,
Speaker 1: we'll go home and get beat.
Speaker 2: You can't, you just can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's not the mark of a championship team. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with him. Will he a not be
Speaker 1: the closer for a while? I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody to give him the old Pedro Bajaz.
Speaker 2: Don't do that? Oh no, don't Pedro baya is.
Speaker 1: Or b Does he go in the il because something's
Speaker 1: bothering him. Our show is very brief today, so brief.
Speaker 1: We'll be back to wrap it up after this.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yes, sure, so oh oh, what a surprise.
Speaker 4: You never know what you gotta find when you're on
Speaker 4: the Rogan and Rodney Show. Man Wow, Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,
Speaker 4: and the wonderful Oliver is joining us today.
Speaker 3: What's up, Oliver?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, say hello, Oliver. He's just staring blank. He
Speaker 2: looks good. At Oliver. Yes, he does, is big Kevin.
Speaker 2: He is very heavy, growing sad. So you know how
Speaker 2: old is Oliver? Now?
Speaker 5: Just earned one a month ago?
Speaker 1: Okay, so Oliver is just a month. Why don't you
Speaker 1: tell us what Oliver does on a daily basis?
Speaker 5: Well, he's sleeping, poop like most babies.
Speaker 2: Fred Fred does that. Now he's doing that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: He's uh, very excitable, loves his friends at daycare, you know,
Speaker 5: crawls around not quite walking yet, but he'll get there
Speaker 5: pretty soon, pulling himself up. Uh, the fastest crawl I've
Speaker 5: ever seen, and tries to destroy the house every single
Speaker 5: second that he can walk.
Speaker 2: And you'll really understand what the story house? I'm sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, are you? Is he sleeping? Set good?
Speaker 2: He sleeps phenomenal. He sleeps through the night, and he
Speaker 2: wakes up.
Speaker 5: He puts himself back to sleep.
Speaker 2: So he got lucky.
Speaker 4: You ain't lying.
Speaker 2: You got lucky. You ain't lying. You got lucky. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: You are fortunate because you know, if you've had kids,
Speaker 1: you understand what that's like. But he puts himself back
Speaker 1: to sleep.
Speaker 2: He does for now. There he is there, he is ah.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, yeah, he's already learning the microphone.
Speaker 2: Oliver. Well, Kevin, thanks for bringing Oliver around today. It's oh,
Speaker 2: of course, of course, why not.
Speaker 5: He was a little depressed because the Dodger's lost, but
Speaker 5: it's all right.
Speaker 1: You know what he I have to tell you. You
Speaker 1: don't realize that we communicate. He's really pissed in Tanner Scott.
Speaker 2: Is he happy? One year old Oliver is really pissing
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in our pre production meeting and yeah, he conveyed
Speaker 3: that he was not happy with Tanner Scott and we
Speaker 3: he've been pitching lately, Kevin. So, uh so Tanner doesn't
Speaker 3: want to piss off Oliver anymore. Get it together, Tanner Scott,
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, we don't want Ali upset.
Speaker 2: Uh. Well, that's it for us. What that was exhausting today? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow wow wow.
Speaker 1: Uh But tomorrow we've got a regular show three hours. Ronnie,
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out for thirty minutes. Kevin and Oliver,
Speaker 1: thank you. And Rodney get him tomorrow, yes, sir,