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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go freend Rug and Rodney Pink on

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<v Speaker 1>a five to seventy LA sports. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you're the stand by guys. We were on standby,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be very honest with you, if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one thousand percent honest with you, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be on much sooner than this because we thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers were going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were ready.

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<v Speaker 1>To go an hour an hour long today because if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have that complete collapse and debacle, the game

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<v Speaker 1>would have been over much sooner. So, Rodney, as you

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting there watching that this afternoon, what is running

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<v Speaker 1>through your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like you, fret, I was thinking. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>we were on standby also because there was rain in

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<v Speaker 3>the forecast in Cleveland, and so we weren't sure if

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<v Speaker 3>the game was going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be called delayed, called early.

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<v Speaker 3>But once they got past the fifth inning and they

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<v Speaker 3>got into the sixth, and it was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a complete game, regardless of the score, regardless of the inning.

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<v Speaker 3>And after that, he figured we would go on and

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<v Speaker 3>have at least an hour, right, at least an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe even more than that, because I thought and

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<v Speaker 3>then they showed the clips of it's starting to rain

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, and you were hoping, You're hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>that game got called in the seventh, because in the

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<v Speaker 3>eighth all hell broke loose. For itd all hell broke

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<v Speaker 3>loose in the seventh or in the eighth, And I

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<v Speaker 3>felt I felt bad for h I felt bad for

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<v Speaker 3>Kershaw because he you know, he struggled in that first inning,

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<v Speaker 3>but he held them to one run and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have got the win. Red, he would have got

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<v Speaker 2>the win. Yeah, he looked good. You have to get

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<v Speaker 2>into him. He looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think now, and as I've said all along,

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season is this long journey to get to

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<v Speaker 1>where you need to be. And I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna panic or worry about anything. There'll be ups and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be downs, and you adjust to them because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end we know, we know how this has got

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<v Speaker 1>to play out. But now I do have concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner Scott. And it's the first time this season I've said.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there need to be genuine concerns about him.

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<v Speaker 1>They signed him to I think a four year deal, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of money, and the Dodgers don't do

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<v Speaker 1>that with relievers, and he was the best reliever on

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<v Speaker 1>the market. So they said, we're just gonna wrap this

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<v Speaker 1>up right now here. You go, get in here and

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<v Speaker 1>do your thing. Close these games. You've beaten us in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, well now you can beat them with us

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has not looked good. He has really struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>To a point as I was watching that, there's only

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<v Speaker 1>really a couple of choices here. I mean, you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>keep sending him out to get beat like this. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to make some adjustments there. And Dave Roberts says,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is Rodney. He's just throwing the ball down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. He can't close guys out. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that yesterday. He can't close it out

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<v Speaker 1>and he's losing his location. Because you remember, he started

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<v Speaker 1>the season pretty good. He was he was good.

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<v Speaker 3>We were happy, and I think we were all happy

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<v Speaker 3>that we signed him because he was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best in baseball last year and you know, sign him

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<v Speaker 3>to a lot of money. Started off good, but then

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<v Speaker 3>the last five starts, I think he's blown three saves

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<v Speaker 3>in the last five opportunities, and I think three in

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<v Speaker 3>a row. So it's not really it's not been good

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<v Speaker 3>for him. And again it could be red. It could

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<v Speaker 3>be it could be as simple as I am, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>missing my location, I'm not hitting my spots. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to maybe there's something in my mechanics,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't all of a sudden go from being

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best to you know, struggling like he

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<v Speaker 3>is and giving up long balls like he is overnight.

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<v Speaker 3>Something has to change, and they're either in his delivery,

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<v Speaker 3>or something is bothering him, something is maybe ailing or hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>or he's injured a little bit right now that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not feeling one hundred percent something like that, because it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't just go from from him being really good to

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<v Speaker 3>him being terrible in the same season or within a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why one of two things are gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. A, they're gonna have to take him

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<v Speaker 1>out of that role for a while. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to take him out, just give him some time, let

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<v Speaker 1>him work on things, don't put him in those situations

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<v Speaker 1>until he reclaims what he lost. So that's a they

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<v Speaker 1>can do that, or B he goes on the I

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<v Speaker 1>l there's something wrong, and even really, if there's nothing wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the old look. I think your shoulders bothering you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, yes it is, yes, it is. Let's regroup here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are your only two options at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't keep sending him out to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't. I mean, he's and does he want

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<v Speaker 1>to give up these these hits?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Does he want to blow the saves? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I heard Dave Vasse say in the postgame

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<v Speaker 1>show the Dodgers and Red Sox now lead the majors

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<v Speaker 1>and blown saves. Yeah, I think both teams have twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't sign Tanner Scott for that reason, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he's got five of the twelve, and last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire year, I think he had two or three.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not why you paid him for four years to

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<v Speaker 1>come in here and lose games. He's the guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to shut the game down and let's get the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of here and go to the airport and

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<v Speaker 1>fly home.

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<v Speaker 2>Not what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you put poor Vessia in Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the Dodgers do.

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<v Speaker 3>They fill Bickford people. You know what that means you mean,

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<v Speaker 3>overwork them, over use them.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel Bickford them Casparius for example, Oh you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy's putting in some work.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarious, Oh my god, they get him feels like he

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<v Speaker 3>picked his every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he does, and I think he does. And

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<v Speaker 1>dry now they get Phil Bickford. Get out your and go,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going. Don't see your arm fall off. So

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<v Speaker 1>your arm falls off, and then we let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But damn it, when you're out there, you're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that's happened to Vesier. John Ronni's pitching every

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<v Speaker 1>day every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you can't sustain that. I mean you said

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<v Speaker 3>it that the Dodgers in the and the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 3>have the most blown saves, But the Dodgers lead the

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<v Speaker 3>beg leagues by far, and most appearances by by the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 3>most innings by the bullpen, and so there they are

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely overworked. Remember how lights out Vessia was last year

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<v Speaker 3>for them. They don't win a World Series if Vessia

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't come in and do the things he did and

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<v Speaker 3>some big time spots for them last year. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think now he's he's overworked, and I think the whole

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<v Speaker 3>bullpen looks tired for it. They do because they're not

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<v Speaker 3>getting any length out of the starters. And on top

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<v Speaker 3>of that, the end to the starters, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>have more bullpen games, and you know, you look up

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<v Speaker 3>and the bullpens in at the fourth inning. They're sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>in in a third inning. And we've seen that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot this year where the bullpen's had to start their

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<v Speaker 3>sessions in a third or fourth inning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we know they're overworked. We know the starters are hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>We understand all of that. There are no excuses, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a statement of reality. But what you cannot excuse is

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<v Speaker 1>the one guy you have signed to hammer it shot,

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<v Speaker 1>to close it down, to wrap it up and let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>If that guy is getting beat that's a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the bullpen is overworked, Yes, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be hiccups along the way because they're overworked. Understood,

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<v Speaker 1>got it. We all appreciate that. We know when the

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<v Speaker 1>starters get back it'll be a different story. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That can't get beat up is the only guy who

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<v Speaker 1>signed to close the game. Now, Blake Trianon's hurt, don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Phillips. We don't know Copek he's throwing. When will

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<v Speaker 1>he be back, how healthy will he be? So there

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<v Speaker 1>are guys that are going to come back, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>as soon for Evan Phillips fingers crossed, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>guys coming back. But none of those guys were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be Tanner Scott, none of those guys were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Shut it down right now. If you remember

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<v Speaker 1>last year, the Dodgers kind of did it by committee.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it by matchup, so sometimes you'd see Evan Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you would see Vessia. It just depended. But this

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<v Speaker 1>year they went back Rodney to the traditional we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. Oh don't forget Kirby Yates, whom I think

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<v Speaker 1>has thirty some odd saves last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's hurt yep. Yeah, and to be fair, swear go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't looked great when he's been in No, he

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't and and apparently he's been hurt that's why he's down.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just the Yes, they've been hit by incredible

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<v Speaker 3>amount of injuries, but at the same time, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver. If you're out there, you know, nobody cares

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<v Speaker 3>if you're out there and you're in uniform, you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the mound, you're playing, then you gotta deliver or you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be out there, and you gotta you gotta let

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<v Speaker 3>people know that I'm not feeling great. If that is

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<v Speaker 3>the case with Tanner Scott. Remember we went that through

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<v Speaker 3>that with the Suzaki where he, you know, was feeling

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure to go pitch because there were so many

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<v Speaker 3>guys hurt and he didn't want to tell anybody. Well

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<v Speaker 3>he did a disservice because he wasn't very sharp. And

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that's not the case with Tanner Scott, but

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<v Speaker 3>but man, he's got to get it going. And you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>is last year, you know, between Trying and Kopek, you

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<v Speaker 3>had your two closers. I mean, depending on who they

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<v Speaker 3>went to, those guys were pretty lights out and and

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<v Speaker 3>at that point you got to there's no way in

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<v Speaker 3>the world that Dodgers did have lost that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the way they're rolling through that, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a cruise fest and then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden you look up, wait they lost. They're going

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<v Speaker 3>on their way to a sweep and they lose it

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<v Speaker 3>and get it and blows up in the eighth Inny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that that just got to hurt for that plane ride

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<v Speaker 3>back for them. You know, if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>at this time, Tanner Scott is pitching just a tad

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<v Speaker 3>bit better than Devin Williams of the Yankees. And Devin Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>who was one of the top closers in the game

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<v Speaker 3>for years, went to the Yankees during the offseason. He

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<v Speaker 3>has been just a dumpster fire. The Angels almost beat

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<v Speaker 3>him last night. He was relieved to get out of

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<v Speaker 3>the game. And I think the guy up for the

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<v Speaker 3>Angels at the end, they had a run around third.

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<v Speaker 3>The count is three and on he swings. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, what are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>The count's three and zero and he and he pitch

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<v Speaker 3>it for Chris Taylor right started. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he came in in pontificalayl.

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<v Speaker 2>He swings it's three and ah, pop out game over.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? I mean, that's why the Angels

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<v Speaker 2>are the Angels? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is Devin Williams has been struggling all

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<v Speaker 1>season long to a point where they thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose the job there and now you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening here with Tanner Scott. I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot give up a three run lead in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth inning. You cannot do that. You can't bring your

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<v Speaker 1>closer in in a high leverage Let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut him down right now, we'll get to the ninth boom,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go home and get beat.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't, you just can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the mark of a championship team. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens with him. Will he a not be

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<v Speaker 1>the closer for a while? I mean, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to give him the old Pedro Bajaz.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that? Oh no, don't Pedro baya is.

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<v Speaker 1>Or b Does he go in the il because something's

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<v Speaker 1>bothering him. Our show is very brief today, so brief.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back to wrap it up after this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh yes, sure, so oh oh, what a surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>You never know what you gotta find when you're on

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<v Speaker 4>the Rogan and Rodney Show. Man Wow, Rodney, Pete, Fred Rogan,

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<v Speaker 4>and the wonderful Oliver is joining us today.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, Oliver?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, say hello, Oliver. He's just staring blank. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks good. At Oliver. Yes, he does, is big Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>He is very heavy, growing sad. So you know how

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<v Speaker 2>old is Oliver? Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Just earned one a month ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Oliver is just a month. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what Oliver does on a daily basis?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he's sleeping, poop like most babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred Fred does that. Now he's doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>He's uh, very excitable, loves his friends at daycare, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>crawls around not quite walking yet, but he'll get there

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<v Speaker 5>pretty soon, pulling himself up. Uh, the fastest crawl I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever seen, and tries to destroy the house every single

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<v Speaker 5>second that he can walk.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'll really understand what the story house? I'm sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, are you? Is he sleeping? Set good?

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<v Speaker 2>He sleeps phenomenal. He sleeps through the night, and he

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<v Speaker 2>wakes up.

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<v Speaker 5>He puts himself back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>So he got lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't lying.

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<v Speaker 2>You got lucky. You ain't lying. You got lucky. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>You are fortunate because you know, if you've had kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what that's like. But he puts himself back

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>He does for now. There he is there, he is ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, yeah, he's already learning the microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver. Well, Kevin, thanks for bringing Oliver around today. It's oh,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, of course, why not.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a little depressed because the Dodger's lost, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what he I have to tell you. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize that we communicate. He's really pissed in Tanner Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he happy? One year old Oliver is really pissing

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<v Speaker 2>Tanner Scott. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in our pre production meeting and yeah, he conveyed

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<v Speaker 3>that he was not happy with Tanner Scott and we

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<v Speaker 3>he've been pitching lately, Kevin. So, uh so Tanner doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to piss off Oliver anymore. Get it together, Tanner Scott,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, yeah, we don't want Ali upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Well, that's it for us. What that was exhausting today? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow wow wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh But tomorrow we've got a regular show three hours. Ronnie,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for hanging out for thirty minutes. Kevin and Oliver,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. And Rodney get him tomorrow, yes, sir,
