Speaker 1: Made a decision.
Speaker 2: A face sunny sune on.
Speaker 1: I had a vision.
Speaker 2: Night.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, this is weird setup because we got I
got Kayla and he's like over to my left and
like I have to really crane my head to look
at him. I know it's not gonna look And then
Stephanie's like across from me, but to my right. It's
like I got whiplash going I guess I could guys
going east and this guy's going west.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're like, who, who do I how too?
What do you want from me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kaitlin, why did they They should have put you
over there.
Speaker 2: We wanted to open up this room a lot more
like it. It's for the host is one thing, but
for me as the producer when I have to come
in here and I have to like break everything down
and set it all up, and you see me like
tiptoeing over cables and cameras like this setup, like we
can just leave these cameras here. Now I can cleanly
walk to my desk, I can walk out Like it's
so much less of a I don't need to break
everything down, I don't need to set it all up.
People aren't tiptoeing around chords anymore. So yeah, and you
know what, Yeah, I'm the producer. Most people don't talk
to me anyway.
Speaker 1: Ah well I have I watch for your hand signals
to but I can't see them, you know, or Kaylin,
he is so important.
Speaker 3: You are important.
Speaker 1: You is smart, yes, and is important. Yes. I want
to year from you. I mean if you were sitting
across from me, it would be a lot easier.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is Al Franken Stuart Smally. You
know you are You're good enough, You're smart enough, and
gosh darn it, people like you, the whole Stuart Smally thing.
The thing that's so interesting about Al Franken is he
is a very actually earnest guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, sin see.
Speaker 3: Then you know he wrote the movie I don't know
if you know this, remember the movie When a Man
Loves a Woman with Meg Ryan, Yeah and Andy Garcia
about alcoholism, which is like one of my favorite movies,
which I loved even before I quit drinking. Did not
think I had anything in common with Meg Ryan in
that movie. You know, I don't know for anybody that
doesn't remember that movie. It's a great movie about because
it's unlike say, Sandra Bullock in thirty Day whatever that
movie was where she goes to treatment. A lot of
movies about alcoholism and treatment really take it to the
alcoholic and then they go get treatment and then everything's fine.
But in When a Man Loves a Woman, one of
the interesting things was that Meg Ryan. It's the beginning
and it's all like, you know, she's so fun when
she's drunk and they egg a car together, she and
her husband, she's just like this very fun drunk. But
then you see her goes out with her friends. She
comes home. Her husband's plays a pilot. Andy Garcia plays
a pilot, and he's gone a lot. So she comes
home and she's so drunk. She's drinking vodka in her
closet and then she falls through her She hits her
kid because she just gets mad, and then she falls
through a shower door and she you know, ends up.
They have to send her to treatment. The movie. What's
really great about the movie is a lot of it
is about what happens after she gets out of treatment,
Like what is it like now having to be sober
and her husband's kind of overfunctioning in the relationship, and
like just like whatever you need honey and like sort
of over supportive, and she gets the grossed out feeling
a little bit like, ugh, like I don't know if
I'm into this guy anymore now that I'm sober and
having to like deal with reality. Now I've got this
husband who's like, you know, overly attented, attentive. So anyway,
it was like it's really good about how they like
they kind of separate at one point, and anyway, I
love that movie. And it was interesting when when you
find out that Al Franken was one of the writers
of the movie, and he dealt with a lot of
alcoholism in his family. I think his mom was a
really bad alcoholic, so he was like an adult child
of an alcoholic and so a lot of that stuff
that he did on SNL was actually kind of earnest.
But he really is like a big therapy like I'm
good enough, I'm smart enough, and God darted people. Yeah,
he's really kind of that guy.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's nice. You ever go back and watch
the old SNLS, Like sometimes I watched like a couple
episodes of the first season recently just to get a
feel of it. It was like Paul Simon was the
musical guest. Like half of the show was him singing.
He did like three songs and they would do a skit,
then would come back and he'd do another like two
and three songs and then come back and then do another.
It was like a concert. It was so different, interesting,
so different.
Speaker 3: I just remember being a very young kid and sneaking
into I think it was like we lived in this
was I lived in LA and we had a duplex.
We had a two bedroom, three kids, two parents. My
parents' room. They ended up moving out of their somehow
if they were gone, which they like. They this was
the seventies, so they love to go out together and
leave me home with two babies basically a babysit, even
at a very young age. So when I was ten,
my sister was a baby one wow, and my brother
was like three, and they would leave me home. I'm
alone with them like all the time as just a
little kid. But I do remember sneaking going in the
room because I wasn't allowed to watch TV really, but
I would go in the room and watch Saturday try
to watch Saturday Night Live. And I do also remember
that I found the musical guests really annoying because I
was young, so I didn't care about like these adult
two singers. So I was like, get to the sketches again,
like I wanted to see John Belushi, you know, a
samurai guy like you know, right, I know.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I used to sneak and watch it.
My dad would let me kind of stay up or
he'll I would tell him wake me up so I
could watch it with you, okay, and then would never
work out. But during the summer, I just remember watching it,
laying on the shag carpet of our living room and
like watching yeah like Jane you ignorant slot yes, and
the Dan Ackroyd character. He would talk about toys that
were they were really dangerous, like he was still enjoyed
and just and then I named my first pet. We
had parakeet. I named a mister Bill, mister Bell oh no,
oh no, and mister Bill flew away.
Speaker 3: You remember the uh wasn't it Pounce's the cat that
was driving, the cat that would drive, and then always
the cat that could drive, and then I'd go over
a cliff right right, Oh my god, Oh no, I
think it was Poonce's that sound. Maybe it was Tuns's
the cat that oh no, tunses and then do you
remember that.
Speaker 2: I remember that I never watched US and now, but
I'll go back and I'll watch clips on YouTube, Like
I like a lot of the Chris Farley stuff and
the David Spade and Adam Sandler stuff, and then I
like the kind of Bill Hayter and Will Ferrell stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'll just look at clips. I've never really watched
US and now.
Speaker 1: He's like, Sonny, that's like his error what he watches.
Speaker 3: But you must have seen the Michael Chay and call
and Jost when they write each other the jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the clips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a viral one that went around recently
of them making fun of Scarlett Johansson.
Speaker 3: After she gave Oh that was a good one.
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of the newer stuff like.
Speaker 3: So so Michael Chay and Colin Jost for New Year's
I guess, or the Christmas every year.
Speaker 4: I think twice all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it's twice a year. I think
end of the season and and for the holidays. They
write each other. No, they're always the news, they're always
the weekend update guys. But twice a year they write
each other all their their jokes and they're not allowed
to look at it, so they just have to read
it sight unseen, and they try to make each other
like say really inappropriate things, like Michael Chay writes Michael
Jost all these things to try to get him canceled,
so everything he does is super racist, like you know,
and then Michael cha pretends to just be like, oh whoa.
And it's really really funny because Colin Jost has to
has to read it, and when he reads it, you
just see him going like oh no, like closing his
eyes and being like I can't and Michael Chay's like
what what do you what? What's what are you? What
are you saying? And then he'll and he has he
does it in like black voice, like you know, He's like,
so he was making jokes. That was the Scarlett Johansson
thing was he was having to read jokes that Michael
ja wrote to him, going like like something about I
haven't like like not having oral sex with her, and
he's like, who am I kidding? I never go downtown.
I'm not gay, like what I'm like? I mean, it
was just so it's so over the top. But last year,
after that one came out the kids and I and
John we went back and watched all of them from
like all the past years, from when they first started
doing it.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 3: It's really funny.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty cool. Yeah. I was just talking to
my friend Kimmel. She's been watching Saturday Night Live all
the way through from the very beginning, Like her and
her boyfriend every night would watch it, starting from the beginning,
and she's like, it's really interesting to see how our
culture was. Like you get a taste of what was
going on in the world. You know, you hear the
weekend update news and stuff like, oh yeah, I forgot
about even when when that happened, when that president was
you know, it's really interesting. Yeah. Ah, it's on Peacock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do have Peacock. By the way, have
you been have you started watching Scamanda?
Speaker 1: Not yet. It's good.
Speaker 3: It's okay. I don't know. I went interested to hear
what other people think it could be better. It's very
it's kind of campy. It's kind of old school tabloidy
the way they're doing it. I thought it would be
more like a serious documentary, but it's very it's hard
to explain, like the host is kind of brit and
it's it's almost a little campy, like it's like, it's
like a thing about the Royals. I don't know. I
wanted to see them go back more into her how
it got started. It's not as good as the podcast.
Speaker 1: Was there one episode and that's it? Or is there
a couple episods?
Speaker 3: But I think I think we watched two episodes really,
but I'm not sure. Also watched and this is normally
our Friday content, but I also watched that one about
the Gray's Anatomy writer. I watched all. I watched the
whole thing. That was also like, okay, the article was
almost better about her. Yeah, yeah, it was a little
I was a little bit disappointed. I found myself a
little bit bored because I was like, well, I know
the story. It was good to match the picture of
her too, and she's every bit as crazy as the
article makes her out to me. For anybody that doesn't know,
I know, we brought this up I think last week.
But Elizabeth Finch, and she was a writer for Grey's
Anatomy for years and the reason she even got that
she couldn't get hired, and then she started she faked
that she had cancer and that she had this specific
kind of cancer, and then she got hired. So she
gets hired on Grey's Anatomy, and none of the writers
like her. So this is how they sort of set
it up in the show. Do you remember this. They're like,
and she's about to get fired, but then she doesn't
get fired, and suddenly she's like the favorite, like Shonda
Rhimes like loves her. And I was like, well, John
and I were watching it, going, well, wait, I thought
she was about to get fired.
Speaker 1: Right, nothing changed.
Speaker 3: It's not like she faked a new kind of cancer.
Every she was saying she had cancer. She was always
missing time from work. Everything that could happen to a
person happened to her. Like at one point she faked
that her brother took his own life because yeah, for
I can't remember why her brother was like depressed and
then he took his own life. Other's fine, fine, like
the even well, yeah, every single thing. And then she
said that her friend died in the Tree of Life
synagogue shooting, and then so she was like I have
to go there, and she was faking like that. There's
this thing in the Jewish faith where you have to
like help clean up the remains of the person, and
everybody was like, oh my god, you poor thing, like
and then she had to go in. Then she claimed
that she had trauma. She had she was from PTSD
from cleaning up the remains of her friends. So she
had to go into treatment for a month. Then she
met that woman in treatment and married.
Speaker 1: Right Well, before we get that, but is there not
one Jewish person that goes, hey, uh, that's not really
in our religion, because I feel like most or it's
not normal.
Speaker 3: Jews, like regular Jews, right, like regular religious Jews either
just reformed or even conservative, wouldn't know that. I think
she's you know what I mean, if she's claiming, like
little known thing about the Jewish.
Speaker 1: Faith is that you have to go clean up your
friend's remains, well, who would know that?
Speaker 3: Who would even know to go? Like, nah, I know
a lot. No, I'm pretty Jewish, so that's not a thing.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I mean I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think the big thing with her was
that most because I was thinking the same thing. I'm like,
how were they not questioning this? But I think that
when somebody is that crazy. You're like, why would anybody
lie about that's something so big, Like what would be
in it for them?
Speaker 1: Right? Right, right, that's true.
Speaker 3: Now I feel like now we all know that people
can be complete, have factitious, fictitious disorder, factitiousness, fictitious disorder,
all those things that you get nothing out of it.
You're not really scamming anybody out of any money. Like
I'm watching this new I'm listening to this new podcast
called I think it's called Caitlin Baby, and it's about
a doula. No, it's about a woman who's faking pregnant,
who fakes pregnancies and gets all these doulas to like
help her. She gets there's nothing out of it but attention.
So she constantly claims to be like I'm gonna I'm
I'm going to be delivering a stillborn baby and I
need help, And then she gets them to work with her,
like overtext, and she fakes she this is like her
whole thing, and she's done it like hundreds of times.
She engages all these doulas and they they've gone to
the police, and there's not a lot anybody can do
because like she's not really committing a crime.
Speaker 1: So she's doing it.
Speaker 3: She's fraudulent, but like nobody's questioning her because they're like,
why would somebody.
Speaker 1: Is she paying these doulas to have them help her? No, hum,
that's insane. So she's just.
Speaker 3: Doing to help her and then she yeah, she sort
of gets them to sort of start helping her, but
then before she really engages them and pays them, she's like,
oh my god, my baby died and I have to
deliver a still you know. And then these dulas are
like okay, and then they're trying to help her and
telling her to go to the hospital, and then she
keeps them on the phone for like forty eight hours
at a time. I mean, it is crazy.
Speaker 1: So they talk to her while she's trying to deliver
a stillborn. Is that what happens?
Speaker 3: I'm going to find the Yes, they talk her through
all these situations, and then these dulas got together. People
figured it out that she's faking pregnancies and they're trying
to like bring her down. It's called it's for the BBC.
It's called the Khan Caitlin's Baby.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Wow, yeah, that's insane. Look, it's so funny because
I was going to bring up this story that was
in the news and they did a documentary about about
this family. Her name is Justina Pelletier. She was fourteen
years old she started complaining of having a lot of
stomach issues. She comes from a good family. She has
three older sisters. She's the youngest. Mother and dad working
class people in their They live in like a podcast.
They live in the Boston area. This was a story
and they made it into a documentary and it's on peacock.
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You're finding a lot of gold on peacock.
Speaker 1: These I know, I know, I know, but this story.
I've heard about this story before. I've read about it
only because it's a long story. But it caught my
eye because I know that last name is familiar to
me because one of my kids's teachers had that last name. Whatever.
But it was a few months ago. I saw it
online somewhere and I was reading about it and then
I was just like, on peacock or whatever, and I, oh,
my god, there's a documentary about it and it's like
five episodes because it's a crazy story.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, don't spoil it. Yeah, what's it called.
What's the doc called?
Speaker 1: Well, No, I want to tell you about it, like
I I might do a little spoiling, but I want
to talk. You got to watch it. I mean, I'm
not gonna really spoil it. You just you got to
see it because it's a lot of twist and turns.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know that's my lovelngth Twists and turns
are my love line. Yes, okay, so let me just
the same thing that is like, oh, it's going one way,
but then like what, yes, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: And when you think it's gonna when it's gonna zig
a zag.
Speaker 3: Even if it's really sad, like dear Zachary, right, sadest
documentary you'll ever watch? Why is it so sad? Because
it kicks you in the stomach when you're like, okay,
this is so so sad, and then you're like, what
the fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a great documentary. Yeah yeah so this Okay,
So I was gonna tell you about So this girl
gets she's complaining of stomach issues and her stomach is
killing her. She goes to the doctor. They basically say
it's it's mitochondrial disease or mitochondrial disorder, whatever they call it,
and it has to do with nerves and stomach and
a lot of that, like like it's tell your stomach
is like telling your brain one thing and blah blah blah. Okay,
So she's being seen by this one doctor at this
Tought's hospital in Boston. Then she gets sick. She ends
up at Boston Children's Hospital. And there's a lot that
you'll find out in the documentary. But long story short,
they they do not want to speak to the other
doctor at Touf's hospital. They want to come together and
start a team of just for her and cut out
all the other noise and just have that team at
the children's hospital, you know, diagnose and treat her. And
they say she doesn't have mitochondrial disease, that she has
a thing called a soda so so so huh soda maya.
Speaker 3: It's something like so that's a supreme courtious, I know.
Speaker 1: It's somo something, which is basically it's it's it's in
your head. It's a psycho it's a psychiatric disorder where.
Speaker 3: You're thinking psychosomatic.
Speaker 1: Psychosomatic, but it's called but it's called something and it's
uh and you're thinking that you're having you really do
believe in your feeling that you're having these stomach issues,
but it's a lot in the head. Then they started
questioning the parents and the parents, you know, accusing them
of over medicating the child and doctor shopping until they
found the right person to treat her mitochondrial because they
were saying at the children's hospital, she doesn't have this.
They end up they put her, they they they take
her away from her parents, They put her in custody
of the state. They they keep her at the hospital
for eleven months, and they put her on the psych
board and they don't treat her for mitochondri They treat
her for psychiatric more psychiatric issues, and the whole time
she was so Then then then you know the hackers anonymous, right,
there was one hacker that really he was like a
twenty eight year old dude, super smart, went to the
same high school that Zuckerberg went to. He decides he's
going to do this anonymous thing because the family's been
like trying to get traction in the news, like free Justina,
because they have our daughter. They took her away from us,
and now they're saying that she's diagnosed with this. We
don't believe that she has this. She has that and
so this guy takes it on his he's going to
do it on his own accord that he's going to
attack Children's hospital and say, hey, if you don't let go,
if you don't let Justina go, we will. Well I'm
gonna you know, Anonymous is gonna all Hell's going to
pay for you guys. And you know you got one
week to let Justina go. So uh so let's take
a break really quick, and then I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: Well, don't tell us how it ends.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. Watch it, not going
to tell you it ends. But it gets crazy. It's
already gotten crazy.
Speaker 4: Did you say the name of it?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the name of it. Just look
up Justina Pelletier. Okay, on on Peacock and you'll you
should be able to free Justina.
Speaker 4: Maybe the Battle for Justina Pelletier.
Speaker 1: There you go.
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Remind me about another case. Okay, it's very very similar. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna tell you how it ends. Yeah,
but this guy, this anonymous guy, he sends this message
to free Justina, and now it gets onto the news.
Now it's getting a lot of attractions, getting on national news,
and he he shut so they didn't obviously they didn't
let Justina go. So he shuts down like their servers.
And now other anonymous people are pissed at him because
it's like, what are you doing. You're fucking up the
hostess a children's hospital. You're they're putting all these other
patients' lives in jeopardy. So anyway, the craziest thing is
that he goes on the run and he gets he
decides him and his wife are going to get a
speedboat and they're going to travel from the Keys of Florida.
Speaker 3: In the middle of Hacker or the the Hacker.
Speaker 1: Just so I'll let you guys watch the rest with
the family, but just this one part of the story
is nuts. This this guy gets in his speedboat with
his wife and goes from the Keys of Florida to
Cuba seeking political asylum, thinking that they're going to take him,
and like twelve hours in the ocean for some reason,
like he he's got his you know, his tracker, he's
got his GPS to how to get there, gets there
spoiler alert, they turn him away. He then he turns
back around and goes back, and they they send them
away like immediately, like you can't get off the boat,
you gotta go back. So after all that, he turns
around to go back, the boat stalls out. And I
was gonna say, did they let him guess up? Yeah
they did, but something of course went wrong and the
boat stalls out in the middle ocean.
Speaker 3: And then it became an episode of I Survived or
that other podcast.
Speaker 1: Right then it's it takes a detail. Yeah. Now then
the Disney Disney cruise liner like saves them. You gotta
see this. This story's nuts. It just keeps going. It's
really good, it's really interesting. But it's one of those
stories where you're like, you hear and and they interview
the parents that they're interviewed in the documentary, so you're
their side and you're like, wow, you know now, you're
like you buy into what they're saying. But then you
hear the hospital side and they're like bringing all these
points up and you're like, oh, yeah, that's true, Like
what the fuck? Well, you know. So it's like that
it's one of those stories, which is right.
Speaker 3: That is so me because even though I can be
very opinionated, I do tend to get swayed. You know.
I told you the time that I did the fake
jury duty the mock trial, and then the one side
went up and was saying like this is why he's guilty,
and I was like, oh yeah, like and I didn't
know that it was a ma I didn't understand that mocked.
I literally didn't understand I was a focus group for
the law for the lawyer's office. I thought it was
like for the city or something that they're just like,
we just want to try this case and see practice.
I don't know what I was thinking. I was young,
I was in my twenties. But the point is I
remember watching that mock trial and being like, oh my god, yes,
one hundred percent this guy's guilty. Then they go up
and do the defense, which was the company that was
actually hiring us, and I was like, wait, what like, oh,
one hundred percent this guy is innocent? And I was like,
what is wrong with me? I'm so easily swayed.
Speaker 1: But they do. They make good points both sides. When
you watch these, you know.
Speaker 3: Well it's like a little bit like and this is
a total side quest. But the Blake Lively, justin Baldoni's situation,
I was like, oh my god, this guy, fuck him.
He's a monster. Right reading all the stuff, I was like,
oh my god, poor Blake Lively, like he's trying to
bury her, like he's you know, And then more and
more stuff comes out, and then you hear his side
and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, wait, what, Okay, so can you tell I was
gonna ask you what the fuck is going on? Yes,
I can tell you what's going on, But before that,
I want to say that there was that there's another
case that about the girl. It's so so similar and
I don't I'm not gonna remember the name of it,
so Caylin, you're gonna have to google for a second.
But it's there's a girl that the parents were treating her.
She had like a mysterious illness. She was in like
chronic pain, and they were treating her with high doses
of ketamine. Do you remember That's And then basically the
parents they decided that it was in the girl's head.
Similar thing, and then they came for the parents and
child abuse and the daughter she got taken away and
they were keeping her at a hospital for a.
Speaker 3: Really really long time. Crazy story. Did you look it up? Kaitlin?
Speaker 4: On the first one I see is take Care of Maya?
Speaker 3: Yeah, take Care of Maya?
Speaker 1: Oh that's Netflix. Wasn't that on this? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's very similar story except for no computer
hacker that takes off on a speedboat, right, but also
twists in a very big twist in that one too,
which I want to tell you I don't remember. Yeah,
but that's a really good documentary. And that's one too
where I was like, wait, wait, I'm totally like no
this and then I'm like, wait, no, this.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I am so easily swayed. I went back and listened
to the case. You know how I always bring this
up from time to time, year to year, the Hot
Car Dad. Yeah, and it's the Atlantic Atlantic Journal Constitution.
That's a podcast, and they did the whole case and
I was like, Okay, wait, maybe he didn't do it. Okay, no,
he did it. And then I was very sure that
he did it and argued with Mark Geragos about it
when we had him on our podcast, and I was like,
he so clearly did it. And then remember that was
when Mark Geragos was like, you're my worst nightmare, like
you would not make my jury. And I was like,
how dare you? That's basically implying that I'm just a
Karen that you know. But then I re listened to
it again, like I don't know, six months ago Car
Dad case, and I was like, oh, now I'm not
one hundred percent sure that he did it.
Speaker 1: I get after you listened to it the second time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've listened to that thing like three times. In
the first two times, I was like, no, he a
hundred there's so much evidence that he did do it,
but also you could make a case that he didn't
do it on purpose, that he he this is the
guy that was sexting. I know, you remember hundreds of
women he was in a like, but didn't he like
Google had had how long it takes an animal to die?
Or that car. Yes, there were a lot of circumstantial things,
but there were also and he yes, it was very weird,
and there was a lot of circumstantial evidence, but you
could kind of make a case for the fact that
he did love his son and he could have just
divorced the wife. Was like, divorce me, Like, if you're like,
she would have just he wasn't really going to get
anything out of it.
Speaker 1: But whenever they do these things about you know, they
they you know, he could say, I don't remember what
his excuse was for that Google search, but you know,
maybe he was because it was such hot days. I
don't know, or why did he what.
Speaker 3: Did he claimed that? That was like his biggest fear was, look, okay,
it looks bad for the guy. I'm glad he went
to prison. Okay he did. I think he's getting out.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Karen what's her name? Meat
or karenat or whatever where that so that I know
we're jumping around. But at that case, the woman that
lived in the house that was married to the cop
or whatever, she googles how long till somebody dies out,
you know, in the cold, and they were saying, like,
you know, and she came up with some cockamene thing
for that. Why she said that and she said it
was I just feel like when some when there's a
Google search involved and it's so close to what happened,
Like Casey Anthony is googling how to you know, haes
chloroform work and how to kill with chloroform? Yeah, right,
like oh, but then her mom is saying, oh, I
but I was searching for chlorophil because the dog was
It's like whenever there's a Google search going on and
they try to explain it, it's like, no, I don't know.
I don't buy it.
Speaker 3: When you search something on Google, do you ever think
like this would not be a good thing for the
police to find if some if God forbid, something went
wrong in my life and they looked at my Google history,
Like sometimes there's just some things I search and it's
usually is after listening to some crazy true crime podcast.
Speaker 2: I did that two days ago. Well, because I remember
hearing like in the past that people used to kill
themselves by putting their head in an oven.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like, that is the most brutal way to like
burning alive inside an oven. And then I heard it
wasn't that, it.
Speaker 4: Was something else.
Speaker 2: So I like googled, like, you know, stick suicide by
sticking your head in an oven? Yeah, and I immediately
you got all these like suicide prevention things I like,
and I was like, oh, no, it's the gas that
they were killing themselves with. They weren't like turning the
oven on and cooking their head. I was like, I
was curious because I always thought it was different. But yeah,
as soon as I go, look at.
Speaker 3: That is such a perfect exactly yes, And then you're like,
what if something happens to me, And then they look
at my search history and then yeah, right, they're like.
Speaker 1: But that's saying that's the one thing if But did
Calin put his head in the oven? No he didn't.
Speaker 4: Well you can't even really do.
Speaker 2: You learned you can't even really do it these days
because they changed the way that ovens, like the gas
that they put in it like it wouldn't work with
ovens these days.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: So what they were doing it was they were, well,
there's very.
Speaker 3: Few gas ovens anyway, most ovens are electric. Yeah, I know,
because remember when my gas oven broke and then to
convert to electric oven it was going to cost like
thousands of dollars to convert the way that that area
gets so I had to go find an appliance store
that still still sold a gas oven. It was like
a whole kashaw kasha to do that.
Speaker 1: Are you're gonna tell us something about before? Remember you say, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So basically this is going to be the most surface
and we can discuss any part of this. But and
by the way, Cecily my on Rose Pricks, we have
been covering this is why I'm up on it. We
have been doing all the updates. Every time something happens,
we've been covering it. It's funny. I was just telling John,
I was like, are you keeping up with this story?
Because I feel vindicated because I was starting to come
down on the side of justin justin right, And then
I felt bad because every time Cecily and I would record.
I was like, I feel like I'm gonna get canceled
for like not for like not believing women, you know.
And then I realized that some of my very smart,
very feminist friends uh on social media were like, no,
fucked Blake Lively? Like good, I'm glad that the truth
is coming out because she tried to get him so
he tried to get him canceled. Okay, here's what happened.
I'm gonna I'll tell you what the real story is.
So Colleen Hoover writes this book, it ends with us.
They want to hire Blake Lively. They want her to
play the part Jay Justin Baldoni gets hired to be
the director. He really likes the script, the movie. He
wrote the script. It's I guess he's like writer director,
did he write it? It's based on the book. But
then Colleen Hoover's all about him being in it or like,
you know, you should play the lead, you know what?
It seems like he seems like and I don't know
this for sure. I'm not friends with him. I don't
know him, but from a lot of accounts, he's like
a really nice guy, not our type of person, necessarily
because he's pretty cheesy, but he's like does a lot
of charity work. He's just one of these guys. It's
really like you're amazing, Lynnette, Like you know, you know,
I love your podcast. You and Stephanie are just like
you're just talking about like real shit, like like god,
like I love like two women just being empowered. Like
he's that guy. Okay, so apparently and this is how
this this When we first started talking about this, Cecily
was like, I'm just saying that Blake Lively is not
supposed to be the nicest, like not saying we shouldn't
believe her, but she's like kind of a cunt. Like
that's like just saying, like one could have nothing to
do with the other. But so Blake Lively is the
lead in this movie. And then she claimed she put
she basically put out a claim that Justin was sexually
harassing her, that it was like a really horrible working
conditions that like her husband was having to protect her
from him and the stuff that was coming out.
Speaker 1: And then she claimed that.
Speaker 3: Justin was retaliating by hiring a PR team to bring
her down. Okay, And what it looked like was that
she was telling the truth. Okay, So her thing that
she said, her claims. One of them was that Justin
was adding scenes into the movie, like sex scenes that
weren't that she'd never agreed to, wasn't paying attention to
the intimacy coordinator, was making her feel uncomfortable. Was there
was a thing where she said, there was a a
whole scene where he was he was like being kind
of forceful and getting in her space and trying to
make out kiss her when it wasn't part of the script. Okay,
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. So this comes out. Blake Lively comes out
and says all this stuff, this is like a hostel
environment on the set and then releases these texts from
the PR from Justin's PR team that she uncovered that
got This is where I was like, oh shit, this
guy's a horrible like he hired this team to smear her.
And then there's these texts going back from these two
girls that work for this PR company to that are
that are supposedly having a smear campaign against Blake, why.
Speaker 1: We hired a PR company.
Speaker 3: What he did was he hired a PR company to
protect him because she was coming out and saying all
this stuff, and he knew. This article gets written in
the New York Times all about what Blake Lively is saying,
like it's all from her point of view.
Speaker 1: And she put that article out. Yes, okay, she.
Speaker 3: Had a lot to do with that article coming out.
So he hires a PR team to protect him. Well, okay,
this part doesn't really matter as much. Blake Lively started
this whole thing by saying that he was harassing her
on the set, that it was like this horrible working conditions,
that he was doing all these things. He hired a
PR team to protect This was going on before the
New York Times article came out, So in the New
York Times article, they were reporting that he had hired
a PR team, and then they had they printed these
texts between these two girls that worked for his PR
team that were saying like we're going to bury her,
like oh, she's like all this stuff. But what they
didn't include was the context of the text was that
they were being sarcastic like and basically kind of laughing
about like as if we could do that, like yeah,
like we have the power, Like we really have the
power to like like yeah, okay. So you know, so
a lot of things are coming out that are out
of context, right, So basically lately, Justin Baldoni has been
releasing a bunch of things that make it pretty clear
that there's way more to the story than what she's saying.
Like a lot of the he's like, look, so she
was claiming that there's this scene where they're first of all,
Blake Lively wanted to a lot, she wanted a producer,
she wanted to be a producer on the movie. She
was rewriting scenes in the movie, and he's trying to
go along with it, like he's like, this girl is
like an A list actress, Like we're so lucky to
have her. So there's a lot of him like kissing
her ass and being like and there's a lot of
her being like yeah, Ryan, Ryan Reynolds, Ryan and I
have like looked at this and like we have a
lot of ideas. Like she's constantly trying to be the
director of the movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see that.
Speaker 3: Right, And she's like, yeah, I have all these thoughts,
And every single time he releases his reaction, it's always like,
oh my gosh, Blake, you're so amazing. We're so lucky
to have you. Of course, I'm totally open to everything.
And then she just keeps pushing it and pushing it
and pushing it. So a lot of stuff came out
about her before, which was that she was using the
pre press for the movie to not take anything seriously
about domestic violence and the company and Justin Baldoni was like, dude, like,
why are you making it seem like this is a
rom com. This is not a rom com. This is
a movie about domestic violence. So she got mad about that.
But I've watched a bunch of little videos of her,
like she was at this doing this press screening with
Colleen Hoover and she's like, oh my god, guys, like,
oh my god, I'm gonna be wearing my jeans. She
was wearing like some thirty thousand dollars jeans. She's like,
you guys are gonna love my jeans. They have like
flowers on them, and oh my god, we're going to
be like gene influencers. It's all like nothing about domestic violence,
like wow, very okay. So he releases this whole scene
of them slow dance, of them they're supposed to be
slow dancing, and she claims that he was like all
over her, that he was saying sexual things to her,
and he releases like the whole unedited, like here's all
the scenes, see for yourself. You're like, come on, lively,
like girl, No. The whole time, he's being very professional.
It's supposed to be a super sexy scene. Yeah, but
she clearly doesn't want to like make out with him.
So she's like, you know what I think would be
like but much better is like if we don't kiss,
like that's like so much hotter, like if we're just
bantering back and forth, and he's like okay, okay, right.
He never argues with her. He's never like, well, let's
try it with us making out and then no, he's
like okay, cool. And then after the scene breaks, he
goes cut walks away. Why He's like, yeah, I think
we got it, Like there's nothing of all the things
she claims he keeps releasing. Okay. So then the one
of the later things that just came out is she's
claiming that he's basically like harassing her and leaves her
a void, that he left her a voice memo. He
sent her a voice memo a two o'clock in the morning.
But what you find out later is that she left
him a voicemail like at one thirty in the morning,
and she's been trying to rewrite the script. She asked
him if she could have She wants the final draft
file so that she can make changes to the script, and.
Speaker 1: He keeps being like yeah, like cool, cool, but like yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm totally open to your changes. Like, and
she keeps going like, did you see like how I
rewrote the scene, And he's like, She's like yeah, Ryan.
So she claims that Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift love
the rewrites and that's how the movie should be.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then she basically kind of threatens him by saying
referring to Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds as her dragons,
and she's doing like Game of Thrones references and kind
of threatening him like, well, my friends who are very
powerful want the script to be rewritten this way. She's
not the director of the movie, and she didn't write
the movie, and it turns out that she didn't even
read the book.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like this girl is very swift wance. So Taylor
Swift backing away from this.
Speaker 3: According to Taylor Swift, she's like, I didn't ask to
be part of this. I'm not like anyway. So he
so the voice memo, we find out later that she
claims that he walked into her trailer while she was
breastfeeding at one point, which he there's so he releases
things where there's messages back and forth where she he's like,
if you're breastfeeding, like I'll come back another time, like
you know, and she's like, no, no, no, come, come
come to my trailer. So she's lying and saying that
he came in when he has proof that she invited
him and said no, come to my trailer now, and
then she was anyway, it's all after the fact. She's
trying to like manipulate facts. So in this voice memo
that just came out, it's him going like, hey, like listen,
I just want to like totally apologize like my bad,
like like if I I came across as whatever. He's
super like obsequious to her and he's and he's like,
you know, if like it made you uncomfortable, I don't
even know what he's talking about, but he's like, I like,
I love your changes. I'm just trying to like I
think we're going to be able to work together. Like
when when you came on the project, I was like, oh,
I'm so excited, Like I'm so excited to hear like
more of your ideas, like it's all kissing ass. And
then at the end of it he's just and he's like, oh,
and your friends are of course, of course, your friends
are so powerful and like have oh my god, both
of these people were talking about are creative forces and like, I, yes,
I'm totally open to their ideas. Just ask kissing the
whole time. Yeah, right. So he's like, I hope I
didn't come across like I'm not open to their ideas
or whatever. And then at the end of it he
goes and he's like, oh my gosh, and like my
love to Ryan, like I don't want to take up
any more of your time, but like, you know, I
love your husband and blah blah blah. Anyway, I'm gonna
let you go. You probably have a million things it's
middle of the night. You probably have a baby on
your boob, like you know, I'll see you later. So
the claim was she's like, oh my gosh, he left
me a voicemail talking about my boobs. So he releases
the voicemail and you listen to it and you're like, girl,
he said you have a baby on your boob, and
then he released a bunch of texts. That's clear that
that's how she talks to him like. She constantly talked
about the fact that she uses the positories like she's
very and she claimed that he like fat shamed her
when it was completely the opposite. She kept talking and
text to him and emails about how like she feels
so fat and she needs to lose weight, and the
whole time he's like, no, you don't stop.
Speaker 1: It is what's going on with her.
Speaker 3: She's a nightmare and it's coming out that she's a nightmare.
Speaker 1: I see. But so she's but she started this right, Yes,
she started with.
Speaker 3: The because she tried to take over the movie. That's
what happened. She wanted to be the producer of the movie.
She got him shut off, shut out off from the set.
She wanted to I think what happened is she got
wind she wanted to take over the movie, and then
she also got wind that people there was backlash against
her because she was coming across like she didn't understand
what the freakin' movie was about, Like she was thinking
it was some lighthearted rom com and being really weird
with like people with interviews, and they were like, what
is wrong with you? Like this is a movie about
domestic violence. Meanwhile he was trying to give money to
all these charities and working with a group for domestic violence.
It's wow, it really seems to be Listen, they're both
like Hollywood douchebags, right, but it really seems like she's not.
Speaker 1: Great, right, And didn't they have like a court date
now but not until like March of next year.
Speaker 3: Yes, but but it's gonna be it's gonna be cool,
it's gonna be good. It's gonna be like the Johnny
Depp amber Heard trial.
Speaker 1: But do you think it's ever going to get the trial?
Or I thought that they were trying to like back
off or trying to you know, uh mediate and come
to a come to a can the leaf flower?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think they are trying to we'll
see kind of hoping they don't just for content.
Speaker 1: But the trial is not until March of next year.
It's a long time. Oh yeah, I feel like a lot,
but I'm sure a lot. We'll find out a lot
along the way, right. Yeah, that's it. That's a crazy story.
She sounds like she could be kind of an Allen.
Like everybody thinks, oh she's Blake Lily and you know,
you know, but now her true self what.
Speaker 3: And I've always been a fan. I'll tell you what.
I was a fan of. It's been really cute. Like
their relationship seems really cute because they're like fake mean
to each other. They like take the pits out of
each other. Her and Ryan on Instagram. They make little
funny digs at each other that are funny. They make
fun of each other. And I've always been like, God,
this is like a fun couple that doesn't take themselves
that seriously. Like they drag each other in a funny way.
You know, I'm like, oh my gosh, there's like the
cutest couple.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, maybe they're over. Maybe they're trying
to you know, like how Ellen comes out and dances. Yes,
it's like maybe that's their thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to hear from other people who
are really up on it and have read all the latest,
like what you guys.
Speaker 1: Think, But how do you hear all these voicemails and
these these It's.
Speaker 3: Because if you just read page six, because it keeps
coming out, and honestly, Cecily's up on all of it
because she's an entertainment reporter basically, so she'll just say like,
oh my god, new stuff, new thing came out, and
then we played the we played the voicemail on rose Pricks.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's really interesting if.
Speaker 3: You want to go listen to that. That's if you
look on Rose Pricks feet, it's just called Blake Lively
versus justin the voicemail, the voice memo. It's a voice memo. Yeah, yeah,
it's just crazy. But that's another case of where you
think it's going one way and you're like, oh, well
you know, yeah this justin Baldoni guy, let's take him down.
Yeah you know, hashtag me too, and then you're like, wait,
not so fast. Yeah, yeah, it's and it's interesting how
you can hear read text messages and go, well, I mean,
how do you argue that in fact, When we were
first talking about it, I was like, you can't argue
that it's in a text message. Yeah, how's he going
to come back from that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And then you and then he's like, uh, hold on,
And then the pr people are like, you're you eliminated
the rest of the text message. So it looks like
it's one thing, but it's not that thing. How did she.
Speaker 1: Get the text men? How did Blake get her hands
on those? I think she subpoenaed them, Although it's weird
that you can do that.
Speaker 3: I guess because she was.
Speaker 1: She was suing him civilly, so she started all this.
Speaker 3: She started it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's suing him civilly for.
Speaker 3: I think that she started to look bad in the
media for how she was marketing this film. She was
getting backlash, so she decided to turn it against him
and make it like, oh no, he was horrible to me.
I was getting sexually harassed. None of the things that
she was saying about sexual harassment, none of them are
are true so far as I can see.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Kaylin, Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: You're a parent now, don't live it up.
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