1 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: And hello, greetings to everyone. Welcome to the Big Podcast 2 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,960 on this Tuesday. Today is the twenty seventh day of January, 3 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:36,479 Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six. My name is 4 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,960 Tom Sullivan. And oh, no, long list of things to 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,399 talk about today. We've got Iran. I'm still waiting to 6 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:50,479 see what's going to happen there. Ukraine, the talks between 7 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:54,920 US Russia and Ukraine. Follow up a little bit on that. 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,439 We've got of course, a lot on Minnesota, the presidents 9 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,079 in Iowa. So let's oh and also let's start with this. 10 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:08,519 Did you know remember when they had the government shutdown, 11 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,599 they finally agreed to come back to work, but they 12 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:19,680 only passed a temporary spending bill that would expire January thirtieth. Well, 13 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,799 looking at my calendar, that's Friday, so I presume that's 14 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,120 your calendar too. So we're going to be facing yet 15 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:32,519 another shutdown. But this time they've already passed a lot 16 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:38,400 of the spending bills. They don't have one big omnibus bill. 17 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:43,359 They break it down into various things. And so the 18 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:49,439 Democrats are going, this is our last lever to use. 19 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:54,480 They want to either get rid of ICE or defund 20 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,159 ice or do anyway. They're mad about Ice and this 21 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:02,439 is their the only lever they've got to say anything 22 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,920 about it. Here's kind of a montage of some of 23 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,599 the Dems that are upset about Ice and using the 24 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,319 government shut down as a threat. 25 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: I have answers until we start rectifying that situation. I 26 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,400 cannot vote for funding an organization that's going to continue 27 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:20,479 killing Americans. 28 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,479 Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, this is the 29 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,800 leverage we have. We have to stop and if it 30 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,919 results in a partial government shutdown, this is the lever 31 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,639 we have. It's time to stand up. 32 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:36,879 Speaker 2: Democrats should be prepared to use every single available measure, 33 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:41,240 including shutting down our government, to ensure that we get 34 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,159 not just reform, but a complete change at the top. 35 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:49,479 Speaker 1: You don't need to be a government specialist to understand 36 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,719 that you are not going to do a complete change 37 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:56,080 to a government agency with three days left to go. 38 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,680 It's not going to happen. The other thing that's about this, 39 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,000 like I said, this will not be a complete shutdown. 40 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,560 I don't know what will be shut down and what 41 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:09,879 will not, but most of the government will be funded 42 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,199 and operating, which takes a lot of the leverage away 43 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 from them. On this. But the other thing about this 44 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:23,840 is eighty percent of the Department of Homeland Security spending budget, 45 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:27,879 eighty percent of it has nothing to do with ICE. 46 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:31,719 ICE was funded by the Big Beautiful Bill and is 47 00:03:31,759 --> 00:03:36,599 funded through twenty twenty nine. So I'm not quite sure 48 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:41,759 if they know what they're doing or they're just exasperated. 49 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,960 Here's Susan Collins, you know, nice moderate Republican. 50 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: It it includes, for example, funding for FEMA. We've just 51 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,360 gone through a horredic storm that has caused a lot 52 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:03,560 of damage, and FEMA is very important. It includes funding 53 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,120 for TSA. 54 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:08,719 Speaker 1: Okay, so I hear some of you cheering about cutting 55 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:11,599 off the funding for TSA, unless, of course, you have 56 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:13,639 a flight and you'd like to make sure that TSA 57 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:17,279 is there working so you don't have more hassles at 58 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,600 the airport than you normally have. That's just a sample 59 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:23,240 of some of the Democrats other than Susan Collins. Some 60 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,240 of the Democrats talking about they're going to change ICE 61 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:28,600 in three days. It's not going to happen, but it 62 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,959 goes beyond that. And I know that you love to 63 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:37,680 hear from Hollywood celebrities about their thoughts regarding ICE. Well, 64 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,720 I just so happened to have one Ed Norton, who 65 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,360 I love his acting. He's a great actor. But Ed 66 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Norton is very upset with what's going on with Ice. 67 00:04:50,319 --> 00:04:53,199 Speaker 5: These are not normal times. We have, you know, extra 68 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,600 judicial like assaults on Americans and humans going on on 69 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:01,199 a daily basis now, and it's not okay. What they're 70 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 doing in Minnesota with the strike needs to expand. I 71 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,959 think we should be talking about a national, national, general 72 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,040 economic strike until this is over. 73 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: He's kind of jumping on the coattails of a there's 74 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:16,920 a group in Minneapolis who wants to have a strike 75 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:23,439 and shut down Minneapolis, and you know, go on strike 76 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,680 against it. No matter where you work. I don't care 77 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,600 if you work for a major corporation or you work 78 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,319 for the local coffee shop. So let me ask you something. 79 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,959 I wish I had a way to get a hold 80 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 of Ed Norton. But if you want to do a strike, 81 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,000 whom does that hurt? Whom does it help? Well, it 82 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,240 doesn't hurt Ice. They're still working. I know you may 83 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,360 not like what they're doing, but they are still working 84 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,600 and they still get their paychecks. And even if the 85 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,879 demo grants won't pass the funding bill for DHS. The 86 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,680 ICE is still going to get their paychecks and having 87 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,839 a strike will only affect whom the people that go 88 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:15,120 on strike, because the employer, if you don't show up 89 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,920 for work, they're not going to pay you for not 90 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,120 showing up for your strike. So I look at these 91 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,240 kinds of ideas and I think, are people just not 92 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:25,839 able to think? 93 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: Is this? 94 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,639 Speaker 1: Is it that hard? So we'll get back to all 95 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,120 things ice in Minnesota in just a few minutes. Let 96 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,439 me let me go back around to remember the President 97 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,839 on the flight back from Davos was talking to the 98 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,399 reporters and said that we have a big armada that 99 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,160 is in the area of Iran, and there is We've 100 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,920 got lots lots of navy that we know of that 101 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:00,879 are in the various waters that are very close to Iran. 102 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,720 And the question is what's Iron going to do. Well, 103 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,920 let's start with the Navy Admiral Starvinas is a retired admiral, 104 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,439 but he is a former NATO commander. Let's see what 105 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,000 he says. 106 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: Inside Iran. There's going to be a mixed reaction, shall 107 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,800 we say, on the part of the opposition, the dissidence, 108 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,959 those who have been risking their lives one minute. Don't worry. 109 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:31,000 Help is on the way. It's a red line, as 110 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,079 you point out, you kill another protester and we're going 111 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,199 to take action. You're showing pictures now of Abraham Lincoln, 112 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,519 a carrier I embarked in for a year. She's now 113 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,480 off the coast. So President Trump has a lot of 114 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:53,199 options to use force here, kinetically with cyber communications, all 115 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,319 of that. But his instincts, as always, are negotiated, find 116 00:07:59,319 --> 00:08:03,079 a deal. Nothing wrong with that other than the fact 117 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:08,959 that this is the most rotten theocratic regime. They're hardliners. 118 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:12,639 These are not people like they are in Caracas, who 119 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:16,160 may be willing to cut a deal, or Kunyang, North Korea. 120 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,480 These are hard line believers in what they're doing. So 121 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:25,879 while I certainly hope the President can come to a negotiation, 122 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:29,680 perhaps something that makes them for swear nuclear weapons and 123 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,360 above all stop killing protesters, I have a lot of 124 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,720 skepticism about whether that can land. I'm glad that carrier 125 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,559 is on station. 126 00:08:39,399 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So he's not very optimistic about the fact that 127 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:46,000 the people that run Iron are going to buckle. How 128 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,639 about general team. 129 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I mean this appears to be 130 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:54,879 a bloodbath that compares to nothing else in terms of 131 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:57,519 the horror that this regime has inflicted on his own 132 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,279 people for forty five plus. He is these numbers are 133 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,960 absolutely staggering and just dealing anecdotally with people on the street. 134 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,480 So now that the internet is beginning to open up, 135 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:13,440 they keep telling me that the people that are guarding 136 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,360 them now and forcing them not to come out of 137 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:19,200 their homes, most of them speak Arabic, not farcie. So 138 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:22,519 they have brought in militias from other countries to help 139 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,960 them do this dirty deed. Here we are with this 140 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,919 is this massacre for sure exceeds anything as I indicated, 141 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:33,120 And the President said he was going to help, and 142 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:36,120 I believe he's going to do just that. Two things 143 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,039 are really at stake here. The regime is the weakest 144 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,440 it's ever been in its history politically, economically and militarily, 145 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:49,000 and I do believe an appropriate strike obviously to avenge 146 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:53,200 what has taken place here. Also, the President gave his word. 147 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,360 I think he'll fulfill it. But what the intent of 148 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:58,480 it has to be is to further weaken the regime 149 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,440 and put it on a pathway to its collapse. If 150 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,519 we did nothing, then we're going to send a lifeline 151 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,440 to the regime and it'll help extend the regime. If 152 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,679 we try to negotiate with them, that'll do much the same. 153 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:14,080 It legitimizes the regime and it's a gut punch to 154 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,480 the protesters involved here. We have to see the opportunities 155 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:21,000 in front of it. A military strike by itself would 156 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120 probably not cause an im media collapse of the regime, 157 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,440 but it will certainly put them on the pathway to it, 158 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:30,039 because as I indicated before, they've never been so weak. 159 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,440 And yes, Iran has the means to retaliate, but they 160 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,360 don't want to go to Warwick the United States that 161 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,320 guarantees them the loss of the regime, despite the bluster 162 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,919 of their comments that they're making. 163 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: All right, So it's a hotspot and nobody's paying much 164 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,039 attention to it because of everything going on domestically with 165 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,440 Ice and Minneapolis. Mike Pompeo, I thought, one of our 166 00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:00,600 best Secretary of States ever, does he think that it's 167 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:03,320 really going to happen where we attack Iran? 168 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:06,759 Speaker 8: I think undoubted the answer to that is yes. Indeed, 169 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:10,240 your point about the massacre that took place, and now 170 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,240 hearing numbers in the tens of thousands, thirty forty thousand 171 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,440 people killed. I think about the conflict in Gaza. This 172 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 is a staggering number of murders committed by this regime 173 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,960 that demonstrates that they are enormously weak. They had to 174 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,559 retaliate with massive force and a military strike or a 175 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,559 set of military strikes on key infrastructure issues like their 176 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,000 energy infrastructure, their telecommunications infrastructure, or even going after the 177 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,039 very murderers who committed this massacre, go after the police 178 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:42,279 stations and the besiege and the IRGC actors who killed 179 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 all these people. This would give the Iranian people the 180 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,240 opportunity to regroup, to get back to the streets, and 181 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:50,240 to fundamentally change the regime in a way that would 182 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,799 benefit the United States of America enormously. 183 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:55,879 Speaker 1: So it was oddspot, and we don't know if that's 184 00:11:55,919 --> 00:12:00,600 going to become kinetic or not. The other area that 185 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:05,519 is kinetic is, of course, Ukraine, and Russia is continuing 186 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,960 to bombard Ukraine even more than they did before. There 187 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,759 was a meeting over the weekend between the US, Russia 188 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,879 and Ukraine and let's find out. Let's go back to 189 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:22,200 Mike Pompeio find out his take on what's going on there. 190 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 8: Let's get back to the president's statement that said they 191 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,200 want a deal. I think that's fundamentally not going to 192 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,480 prove to be true. They probably want a deal that 193 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,399 would call off the dogs with the president is amassing 194 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,960 in the region, but they don't want a deal that 195 00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:38,440 would force them to leave, which in the end is 196 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,440 the only thing they can give the Ranian people the 197 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,919 opportunity to restore their freedom and a better life for 198 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,200 their children and grandchildren. A military intervention continues to put 199 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,559 pressure on the regime and the Iotola and empower those 200 00:12:51,639 --> 00:12:54,000 inside the country who are trying to change this regime 201 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:56,879 in a way that delivers those basic ideas of human 202 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:59,399 dignity and just to be able to raise their families. 203 00:12:59,399 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: Bill. 204 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 8: This is not that complicated. This regime has to go 205 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:07,120 at this point. There's no there's no deal, there's no agreement. 206 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:10,039 President Obama tried that path. We led to continue their 207 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,080 nuclear program. Joe Biden. President Biden tried to do the 208 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,639 same thing. This is not a regime that could be 209 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,279 negotiated with. This is a regime that is going to 210 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:20,960 have to be forced from power by the Iranian people 211 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,879 in the United States can provide support for that. 212 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring up Venezuela. We don't 213 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,440 know what's going on there. We don't know what's going 214 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 to happen in ran we don't know what's going to 215 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:35,480 happen between Russia and Ukraine. Everybody and their brother says, 216 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,399 there's no way, there is no way that Vladimir Putin 217 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:44,120 is going to give an inch. So let's come on 218 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,840 back to domestic stories today. And the whole thing about 219 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:54,159 Minnesota is getting more interesting to me. I don't. I 220 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,360 know a lot of people are either supporting Ice or 221 00:13:57,399 --> 00:14:02,960 their crucifying Ice, whichever side you're on. But what's been 222 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:08,279 bothering me is And maybe it's because once you are 223 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,279 a police officer, you're always a police officer. It's in 224 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,720 my blood. I wore I wore a badge in a 225 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:17,440 gun a long time ago. But I watch what's going on, 226 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:19,879 and it's dawned on me what my problem is with 227 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,600 what the deal is. They've got the wrong police doing 228 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:31,639 the wrong job. The border patrol, God bless them, they 229 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,600 are the ones that have shut down the border. I mean, 230 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:39,480 they have sealed that thing as tight as you can 231 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,960 possibly seal it, because it takes certain skills. And I 232 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:46,919 know a lot of people also look at Greg Bovino 233 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:50,440 and think he's the worst guy on earth. I'm thinking 234 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:55,320 he's probably really good at his job, which is sealing 235 00:14:55,679 --> 00:15:01,600 the border. But going into major urban cities is a 236 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:06,720 totally different form of police activity. And you want when 237 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:11,279 you mix yourself in with the civilian population, you want 238 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:17,120 a professional police management. You want police You want professional 239 00:15:17,159 --> 00:15:23,720 police officers that know how to go about enforcing the law. 240 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,279 And I don't have any any I mean, I definitely 241 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,000 want all the illegal criminals rounded up and thrown out 242 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:37,799 of this country. But I think the raid, the raids 243 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:39,639 that they were doing was something that you would do 244 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:42,679 on a border, but you wouldn't do it in somebody's 245 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,960 neighborhood or backyard. And I think that's where Boveno ran 246 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,919 into problems. And the President is looking at this and going, 247 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:55,759 you know, he wants all the illegals to be tossed, 248 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,879 but he's also looking at the politics of this and 249 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:02,759 realizing that pole after poll after pol is saying people 250 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,559 are not happy with this, they don't like to see this, 251 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,919 and what for example, the guy that was killed last 252 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,799 over the weekend Saturday. I would have been fired if 253 00:16:14,919 --> 00:16:18,159 I had walked up and shoved somebody in the chest 254 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,720 and knocked them down on the on the street. That's 255 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:22,600 not what. 256 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: Local police will do. 257 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,519 Speaker 1: I was trained you don't put your hands on anybody 258 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:33,440 unless you're taking them into custody. If you're you put 259 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,519 oh yeah, you put your hands on them when you're 260 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,399 arresting them and put him in handcuffs. And as the 261 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,759 same goes for the citizen. The citizen cannot put their 262 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:47,480 hands on a police officer, border patrol, or ice or 263 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:53,200 anybody else or they're going to be potentially arrested. But 264 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,639 the way that there was the brutality of knocking people 265 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,919 down on the street. It started with knocking that lady 266 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,359 down and this Alexapretti went to her aid. So the 267 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,079 investigation needs to be done and needs to be done 268 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,759 in a professional way. That's all I'm saying is that 269 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:19,880 I really think Minneapolis needs a professional police department. But 270 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,680 they won't come out of their precincts because they're not 271 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,400 allowed to by city ordinance. That's where the problem is. 272 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,359 So Tom Holman's there, maybe he can work with them 273 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,799 on getting the local police to go out and help 274 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:40,920 do the policing. You cannot do successful policing without the 275 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,799 support of the public. That's basic one oh one. And 276 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,359 I don't think the Border Patrol worries about that when 277 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,960 they're out there in the desert of the Southwest trying 278 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,279 to shut down the border. That's not one of their concerns. 279 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,839 So Paul Morrow, former NYPD guy, talks about the details 280 00:18:02,839 --> 00:18:06,039 of what an investigation should be, should. 281 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 9: Involve sense, But I think that what it goes to 282 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,559 was the larger issue of what the parameters of let's 283 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:13,400 stick to the investigation here as opposed to larger political aspects. 284 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,119 What are they going to look at? First of all, 285 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,960 we know he had his phone out. That is pretty 286 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:18,519 did right. You got to get that phone, you got 287 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:20,319 to get into that phone, You got to see what 288 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,799 it looked like from his perspective, what he saw. That's 289 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,839 maybe the most germane video of all here. You also 290 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:29,519 want to hear what he was saying. The audio matters 291 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:31,880 as well. Were they talking to each other, whether commands 292 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,319 he couldn't hear because they were blowing all of those whistles. 293 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,839 You also want to see, obviously, any other video that 294 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,720 you can get. You want to see any messages that 295 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:41,359 are on his phone. You want to make sure all 296 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,039 the video in the area has been gathered. You have 297 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:46,079 to do interviews because they're going to be people around 298 00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:48,160 there that you should have detained. This woman that was 299 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,920 involved in the practice, you got to make sure you 300 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,319 talk to her, identify her. This is a lot of 301 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,279 stuff you got to do. Then you got to synchronize 302 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:55,920 it and come up with the full narrative. And of 303 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,960 course you got to see if this video from the officers. 304 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:01,920 Most the vice minus standing still doesn't have the body 305 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,599 warning will warrant. They we're rolling those up, but they 306 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:05,480 don't have those. You got to interview them all and 307 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:08,640 you've got to see if anything is contradictory. That stuff 308 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,319 takes time, and that's why the safest thing in retrospect 309 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,319 is to say we're investigating. 310 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:17,839 Speaker 1: Well, he's not alone. John Miller, also former NYPD, talks 311 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:22,640 about the fact that the commands of if there's audio 312 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,160 on the on the there's four officers of the five 313 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:31,359 or six that were taking Alex pretty down, four of 314 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240 them had body cameras, So they need to get the 315 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:37,119 body cameras and get the audio here's John. 316 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 10: Miller would normally unfold would be yes, HSI might assist 317 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:48,160 Border Patrol in an investigation as a as a outside entity, 318 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,440 but still within the same agency. The FBI would be 319 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,519 investigating it because it's a shooting by another federal entity. 320 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,599 But normally this would be something where the Department of 321 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:02,440 Justice would step up on the level of the Attorney 322 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,279 General and say, we are directing the investigation from the 323 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:09,279 Civil Rights Division to determine if the civil rights of 324 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:12,519 the person who was killed were violated. Were conducting an 325 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:16,640 internal reviewers to the shootings. We're not quite hearing anything 326 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 like that. What we've heard is a story that has 327 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,720 already been discounted about how it unfolded, and one that 328 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:27,799 federal authorities have done very little to readjust even though 329 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:31,079 more information is out there, and we've heard about internal 330 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:36,839 investigations and investigations, but not one supervised by prosecutors. If 331 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,440 you just look back on the Renee Good case, which 332 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 is not that long ago, we're talking a couple of weeks. 333 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:48,039 The supervising FBI agent who originally open the investigation into that, 334 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:50,759 which would have probed whether the shooting had a legal basis. 335 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Basically resigned on the idea that this investigation was not 336 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,640 going to happen. So you're correct, And one way to 337 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000 put potentially solve that would be to take the Minnesota 338 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:06,279 Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which has its own police shooting 339 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:12,039 officer involved shooting investigative unit, a specialized team. This is 340 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,920 what they do, and to bring them into the federal 341 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,480 investigation and say we will now do this as a parallel. 342 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,440 It would give you an outside, independent entity that could 343 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,680 at least sign off on the fact that there was 344 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,920 a legitimate investigation. So far, still resistance to that one 345 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,519 queue here though, sending Tom Holman out to Minneapolis. The 346 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,720 borders are when you already have Greg Bovino on the 347 00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:41,960 ground in charge of their ground forces. Tom has been 348 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:48,119 better at creating relationships with law enforcement, even in contentious environments. 349 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:51,319 It may be a sign that they want to tamp 350 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,799 some of that dissatisfaction and friction down. 351 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,319 Speaker 7: As you know. 352 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,319 Speaker 10: The IACP International Association of Chiefs of Police released a 353 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,640 press release very unusual on a Saturday night to say 354 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,720 that they demanded a meeting with the White House to 355 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:08,960 find a constructive path forward in a way to get 356 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,680 local law enforcement to be dealing with their federal law 357 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,359 enforcement counterparts again, so we're seeing those fractures. This has 358 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,799 been a real challenge, whether it's the Rene Good case 359 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,880 or the Alex Pretti case. What you have is a 360 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 crime scene where they lost control of the crime scene 361 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,160 almost immediately. Now part of that is because crowds showed up, 362 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,039 and you know, DHS agents became the target of that. 363 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,039 It's also because you can't have it both ways, which 364 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 is when local law enforcement gets to the scene and 365 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:42,039 federal authorities deny them access, you're already losing the integrity 366 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:44,759 of that crime scene. And then when the federal authorities 367 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,200 decide we have to pull out, and you don't know 368 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:50,119 what evidence have they collected. Have they recovered all of 369 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,640 the shell casings? Is there one that's you know, buried 370 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,640 beneath the snow. Have they The way shooting like this 371 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 should be done is a shooting team like the one 372 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,680 that the state has should show up. They should get 373 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,839 their equipment there, They should document every single piece of 374 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:10,559 physical evidence. They should immediately download all body cameras that 375 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,519 were present, and we understand there may have been at 376 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:15,319 least two there. They should be able to contain that 377 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,799 crime scene as pristine and work on it for as 378 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:21,559 many hours as possible. And in both of these things, 379 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:25,200 we didn't really see that happen. And it's going to 380 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,039 make any any investigation, whether the state does its own 381 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,680 or where the federal agents try to pull one together, 382 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,599 more difficult and less reliable. 383 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: This is part of why I am frustrated, is because 384 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,160 it's making law enforcement look bad. 385 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 11: It just is. 386 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,559 Speaker 1: And these actions by the officers on the streets of 387 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:54,599 Minneapolis are not what most city police officers would They 388 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:58,759 would not they would not handle the situation anywhere near 389 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,839 what these what these ares that. In other words, they 390 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,799 again I repeat, they have the wrong police department doing 391 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:10,279 the wrong job. Border patrols should be on the border 392 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:17,960 and Ice should be doing the job in Minneapolis that 393 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:21,319 they've been designed to do. But they brought in so 394 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,279 many federal officers from some many different agencies. Has just 395 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,680 become mismanaged, totally mismanaged. Which brings up Christine Home, who's 396 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,039 the head of the whole operation, and she spent two 397 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:40,519 hours along with her friend wink Wink Corey Lowandowski, who's 398 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:43,920 been fired twice by Donald Trump in the past, but 399 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:46,799 he's the one who's advising her on how to run 400 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Department of Homeland Security, and they spent two hours in 401 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:53,440 the Oval office last night and today when the President 402 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,400 was leaving for Iowa, the reporters asked if he if 403 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,279 she was going to step down, and he said no. 404 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,319 So he supports her. He has over and over again. 405 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,000 I'm not a fan, but the president is and that's 406 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,759 the only one that really matters. So this whole investigation 407 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,880 thing still has a long way to go. One other angle, 408 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,200 Bill George, who is a former retired CEO of Medtronics. 409 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,440 They're a huge company based in Minneapolis. There's a lot 410 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,200 of large corporations in Minneapolis, and Bill was asked about 411 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:37,480 a letter that was signed by sixty different CEOs about 412 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,400 the whole situation in Minneapolis, and his response was, and 413 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,960 this is exactly right up my alley is don't get 414 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000 involved in politics, don't do it. Stick to the knitting, 415 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,319 stick to business, no doubt. And that's the people fear. 416 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,920 They don't want to be And I actually advise people 417 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,400 to stay below the radar. It's tweaking the bear and 418 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,640 stay below the radar. But I think what happened Andrew, 419 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,880 Let's go back to Minnesota, because in twenty twenty, when 420 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,759 George Floyd was murdered, there was a big swing to 421 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,200 really focus on DEI and it went too far. And 422 00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,880 I think pendulum may have gone too far the other way. 423 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,759 And I think now people are trying to figure out 424 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,759 what's the right place. And again I think the feeling 425 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,440 is stick to your business and folks on it issues. 426 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,400 But this is hurting business, and so I think a 427 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,359 lot of them don't want to be in the spotlight. Yes, 428 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,759 the tech guys are way out in the spotlight, they're 429 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,200 way out in front, but I don't think that the 430 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,559 business leaders I know who signed this letter. 431 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,799 Speaker 2: And I know all of them did not want to 432 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:42,519 be out in front. 433 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: So the President today, I told you he was on 434 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880 his way to Iowa. He's in Des Moines and he 435 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,839 is giving a speech on the economy and also showing 436 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,680 up how things are in Iowa for Republicans. Republicans do 437 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:04,160 really well in Iowa. Scott Bennett, the Treasury Secretary, kind 438 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,319 of highlighted what the President's going to say. 439 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 11: Is going to tell a great story, and he can 440 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,839 tell it like no one else can tell it. And 441 00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:16,039 as you said, this is the one big, beautiful bill 442 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,599 kicking in on the business. On the business side, full expensing. 443 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,200 We've got a capex boom. Capex boom was going to 444 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,839 lead to an appoyment boom. Apployment boom leads to a 445 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,640 consumer spending boom. And then on the other side, as 446 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,480 you said, his signature policies, no tax and tips, no 447 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,920 tax and overtime, no Texan sold security, deductibility of American 448 00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:41,319 made cars. He's keeping his promises to working Americans. 449 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's the message that he brings to or brought 450 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,920 now to Iowa. Very friendly territory. Harry Enton talked about 451 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,000 how the Republicans are. That's just Republican territory. 452 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 12: So if you know anything about Iowa recent politics in Iowa, right, 453 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,720 the President won it by double ditchits. He won it 454 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,960 all three times. There has not been a Democratic senator 455 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,480 that was a non incumbent, a non incumbent Democrat to 456 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,039 win an Iowa Senate seat since nineteen hundred and eighty four. 457 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,480 The chance that the GOP wins in twenty twenty six, 458 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,039 a year ago, to win that Senate seat, it was 459 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:16,880 eighty one percent. 460 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: Now it's down a sixty six percent. 461 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 12: Look, that's still a majority chance, but in the state 462 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,960 that Donald Trump won by double ditchits that foreshadows big 463 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,680 problems coming into the midterm elections. 464 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so. Sixty six percent approval, that's 465 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,720 almost two thirds of people are are for the Republican 466 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:38,000 senatorial candidate. So the Senate seat is up in Iowa 467 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,680 and the Republicans they've got to work at it, but 468 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,960 they should be able to hold on to that seat. 469 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,559 This is all part of the promise by Susy Wilds 470 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,480 that the President's going to go out and campaign like 471 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,559 its twenty twenty four. So this is the this is 472 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:59,000 the kickoff. So on Wall Street today we had a 473 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:02,480 pretty positive day, hey, but the Dow not so much. 474 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,359 The Dow got clobbered down four hundred eight to forty 475 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,599 nine thousand and three. The reason why mostly United Healthcare. 476 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:16,920 The healthcare stocks all got hammered after Medicare said that 477 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,160 they're going to have a pay increase for Medicare payments 478 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,319 to insurance companies. It's way below what Wall Street was expecting, 479 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,720 so healthcare companies took it on the nose. The Dow 480 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,880 down four oh eight. Mostly again, United Healthcare is a 481 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,559 big part of the Dow SMP up twenty eight, Nasdaq 482 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,920 up two hundred and fifteen. Gold continuing to go ow 483 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,960 in the new record territory of ninety eight dollars to 484 00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:48,519 five one hundred and eighty. Oil up two bucks, just 485 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,319 under sixty three dollars now for one barrel of oil. 486 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,960 Thank you for coming by today. We'll be back again tomorrow. 487 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,200 I hope to see you then