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<v Speaker 1>From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza fame. Uh, he'd liked

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<v Speaker 1>to be walked on a leash and play really dirty

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<v Speaker 1>kinky sex games. Is uh the guy put the cock

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<v Speaker 1>in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody aj Benzi

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<v Speaker 1>here with fame, is it? Bitch? This is your Deli

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<v Speaker 1>Unfiltered podcast for October twenty third, twenty twenty five. One

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<v Speaker 1>to oh two three two two five Two's a wild

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<v Speaker 1>but not as wild as yesterday. Still a great date,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm gonna bring you a really good show today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some shows I really get into and sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>block them out, send myself messages. It takes it like

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Just so you guys understand, typically a forty

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<v Speaker 1>minute show is about twelve to fourteen pages of writing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't mean like a whole word for

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<v Speaker 1>word writing, but you know, I I tend to send

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<v Speaker 1>myself notes. Not everything is word for word. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk conversationally. Some things I write out because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important for certain points to hit, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those shows. But just typically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes, twelve to fifteen pages of words, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of writing. I mean, even novelists don't do twelve

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<v Speaker 1>pages a day. But I can get up and spit

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<v Speaker 1>out things because I just love to do what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you my hands moved. I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>four more arms, eight more hands. The thoughts come to

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<v Speaker 1>my head too quickly. I try to use a dictation,

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<v Speaker 1>the dictation thing on my laptop, but I talk too

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<v Speaker 1>fast for that. I have to wait till the words

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<v Speaker 1>catch up to me. But either way, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have like thirty five pages that I haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>touched shit, that are in my laptop ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have angles on different stories I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Today is a good show. But first I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that one of my listeners, Jeremiah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know his last name, Jeremiah, because his last name

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<v Speaker 1>is like a play on words. It's not his real

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<v Speaker 1>last name. But he contacted me about two weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, man, I'm friends with a guy you

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<v Speaker 1>know and a really good actor and Frankie Adonis, who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, been in so many movies with scores ac

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<v Speaker 1>you see him and everything. And he goes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of the movie short you made. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like nineteen ninety four, maybe ninety five. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, but it's a twenty minute short

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<v Speaker 1>directed by this kid named James von Vit. He died,

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<v Speaker 1>He's not I looked him up. He's dead, died in

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<v Speaker 1>his fifties. It was called Revolving Doors and me and

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<v Speaker 1>Willie Deneo, who you know is the guy being Gravesend

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<v Speaker 1>who decided not to cast me after season one, that

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<v Speaker 1>little fucking prick. Me and him play We play hitmen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're stalking the actor Christopher Maloney. But back then

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<v Speaker 1>no one knew Christapher Maloney. In ninety four ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the way up. And I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember what I've seen it, but we did it in

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<v Speaker 1>a little Italy. It was a lot of fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I have any dialogue. It's just me and

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<v Speaker 1>Willie clocking Chris and waiting to shoot him, which we

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<v Speaker 1>did in a against the storefront in little Italy. And

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you something about shooting a gun in

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<v Speaker 1>Little Italy, not a film a gun. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>get permission, naturally, from the mayor's office. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through all the rigamarole and the red tape. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a fake gun on the street on

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<v Speaker 1>Mulberry Street on this date, this hour. You gotta get pyramits.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're doing this, we're doing the short. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the thick of Mulberry Street. You know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>the best restaurants are there, everybody's their shopping. All the

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<v Speaker 1>old Italian people are sitting on the stoop leaning out

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<v Speaker 1>their windows like a typical day. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hit gun shots beneath them because it could be a mobster.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically it would be. Although they don't really kill anybody, literally,

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<v Speaker 1>not since Joey Gallo got shot dead in his played

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<v Speaker 1>the Linguini with clams. But the point is it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>startling to hear gunfire. So cops come up as we're

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<v Speaker 1>making our way to shoot the scene. They go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they get the director, James, you guys got a permit.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, we got everything. We got the permit

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<v Speaker 1>for the mayor's office for the city, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got permission. And the director, who's obviously not Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, we got all the proper permitcis He's

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<v Speaker 1>asking his assistant his ad show them, you know the paper,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're pulling out permits and the cops go, not enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean permission from Chatcha. And the director doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I said. I know Johnny Chatcha down the street. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, Johnny knows, chat Chaw knows were shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny cha Chaws an old character, was an old character

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<v Speaker 1>who lived on Mulberry Street, had a joint down at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, at the end of the block, a food joint.

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<v Speaker 1>He would sit out front, sit in his chair with

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<v Speaker 1>his buddy or a revolving amount of buddies, and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>sit in front of the store. And everybody knew Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>chat Chaw. It was a different world. You all knew him.

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<v Speaker 1>You shook his hand, maybe you leaned over, gave mkiss.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his joint, nice little clothfee joints on pastries.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what kind of front it was for the mob.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had to get permission from Johnny chat Chaw.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say, chat Chat, Cia, Cia, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>permission from chat chat to shoot a gun on Mulberry Street.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did. And the cops said, okay, if Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>cha Chaw knows, it's all good. They left. I missed

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<v Speaker 1>that about New York. But this short is terrible. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an actress in this who her name was Maria Lisa Costanzo.

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<v Speaker 1>When I watched the first five minutes, I couldn't keep watching.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so bad. But this is what twenty minutes shorts

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<v Speaker 1>are four it's to hopefully launch somebody who's in it

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<v Speaker 1>to be a star. Well, Chris Mamoni certainly blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Has he been on that show for what twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years? It's been forever, but we struck up a

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<v Speaker 1>friendship after that. He was always good to me. He

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<v Speaker 1>did my talk show. He was one of my first

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<v Speaker 1>guests on the show in New York City, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did an interest show that I can't find anymore

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<v Speaker 1>where I busted him in the street, put him up

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<v Speaker 1>against the fence. Chris was good for me, good to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and good with me. But this other shit, Realisa constans

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<v Speaker 1>are terrible. Willie DeMeo certainly made it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like graves end, but he did what he had

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Even though someone else writes those scripts. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not stupid. The guy can't put five sentences together. But

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<v Speaker 1>either way, and I did okay, So sometimes shorts bear out,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for Mari Lisa Coistenzo. Either way, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to make this into a DVD because who the hell

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<v Speaker 1>how was a VHS player anymore? I don't they're life

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<v Speaker 1>expensive now, right? I mean whatever? I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>VHS's from all my days on talk shows and different

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows. I want to play the should they get

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<v Speaker 1>a VHS player or should I just make everything a

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<v Speaker 1>DVD and get a DVD. I only ow a DVD player.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like those kind of went by the wayside

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<v Speaker 1>with streaming and everything else. I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even it's like it's an uptown problem anyway. I love

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<v Speaker 1>The Morning Show on Apple TV. I've watched it for

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<v Speaker 1>now a couple of years. I like it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the way it began with Steve Carell. People forget that

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<v Speaker 1>they really have used the situations in our lives, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's COVID or the political climate or Cexral arrest. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>they've done everything. They've incorporated all those bullshit topics into

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<v Speaker 1>their show. With Jennifer Anderson and Reese Witherspoon as the

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<v Speaker 1>main two, Billy crud Up as the pretty much The

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<v Speaker 1>Mail Star, and I think it's an entertaining show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I like it. It's about broadcast journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>which is right up my alley. There are some beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>women on that show, obviously Anniston and Reese Witherspoon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would tell you to listen to Jennifer Anderson's interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Dak Shepherd on his podcast Armchair Quarterback. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so down to earth, and Dak Shepherd said something

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<v Speaker 1>to her on the show that I echo, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>told you guys before. Dak said to her, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>We're so happy here. I got to tell you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing seeing you on TV, but when I

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<v Speaker 1>first met you in person, oh my god, you blew

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<v Speaker 1>me away. You're so beautiful. You would think ordinarily that's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy blowing smoke up a chick's skirt. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>you see Jennifer Aniston in person, I'm talking back the

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<v Speaker 1>Friend's day, not that she's not that she's ugly. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she's still a beautiful woman. But back in the Friend's day,

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<v Speaker 1>when I met her at a place called Sushi Roku,

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<v Speaker 1>and she knew me, she came to me here, aj Benze,

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<v Speaker 1>we're waiting on the bathroom line. Yeah, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I love your show. Like I was talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>chit from Friends, I was talking to Rachel. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just the same person. But those eyes, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Greek women. Greek women can either be absolutely fall down

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous or they can look like they need to be

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<v Speaker 1>on a farm. I'm sorry they you know, they break

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<v Speaker 1>down early, they get very heavy, whatever the fuck, they

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<v Speaker 1>get hairy like Italian women. The joke is Italian woman

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<v Speaker 1>get hairy. I've really never had an Italian girlfriend who

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<v Speaker 1>got hairy. But okay, that's that's the talk. Yeah. Annison

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<v Speaker 1>in person is a knock down, drag out beauty. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's her. There's Karen Pittman who plays this shit named

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<v Speaker 1>Miya Jordan. There's Nicole Bahari who plays a young journalist

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<v Speaker 1>named Christina. She's a hot piece. She's only five to

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<v Speaker 1>one and she has her problem. She is another actress

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<v Speaker 1>who has to tell you what she suffers from. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, just take a look at her on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. There's one shit I can't stand. Greta Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an Asian actress. Well, she's an actress, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>Asian and she's absolutely awful. When I tell you, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing redeeming about any time she's on screen, I'm not lying.

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<v Speaker 1>She's awful. She's not pretty, she doesn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>use her face when she's speaking. I'm gonna leave it

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<v Speaker 1>at that. But apparently on the last episode she's seen

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<v Speaker 1>boarding a plane and leaving and she's she's gone. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like she's off the show, which is fine by me. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm watching the Morning show, one of the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>actresses on there is the French beauty Marion Cotillard. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know her. She's crazy gorgeous, although she does need

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<v Speaker 1>to remove that mole from the center of her forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some actresses like that. There's one on Tulsa King,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there's like a mole on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of her cheek. She's a beautiful one. Get it off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I did yesterday get this. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, I went and got these skin tanks removed

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<v Speaker 1>around my eye. I think there were four or five

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and I'm like, yeah, get rid of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was worth it. It was a few hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel better looking at myself in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one on my neck and it always, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my necklaces, always touching. It doesn't hurt, but it's there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it reminds me of my older aunts and uncles.

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<v Speaker 1>They began to get these things when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, why would they keep them on their body?

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<v Speaker 1>a different generation of people. I don't want them. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twirling this one on my neck. It's tiny, to

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<v Speaker 1>There's one of my arm too. I don't want these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we get them? Anyhoy? Marianne Coat Yard is gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brad Pitt were together in a movie back and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ten years ago twenty sixteen called Allied. It was

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get much play. I saw it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't great. Brad Pitt plays an intelligence officer and Cotiard

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<v Speaker 1>behind enemy lines and guess what, they fall in love. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so these two didn't date per se. But the rumor

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the other angle, or in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the he's always drunk angle. Marianne Courtyard always denied it.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you know, she was in a happy relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with her partner, some frenchman named Boullam, Gullyam, whatever the fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were expecting their second child. While this rumor

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote that it's completely false. She put out a

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<v Speaker 1>along with me, be a little detective here like I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and try to put two and two together so it

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<v Speaker 1>actor the Frenchman, and she called him the man of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. He's the man of my life. Okay, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I suspected she had a flavor with Brad Pitt

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<v Speaker 1>and that kid is Brad's kid, and they asked her

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and she said, I'm not used to condemning,

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<v Speaker 1>commenting on things like this, nor talking nor take it

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<v Speaker 1>restart over because the guy above me, this fucking kid

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<v Speaker 1>who raps he's got the base on Sola. I want

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done. This is nineteen ninety seven, anyhow, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not used to commenting on things like this nor

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<v Speaker 1>taking them seriously. But as this situation is spirally and

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<v Speaker 1>affecting people I love, I have to speak up. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago. By the way, firstly is really not

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<v Speaker 1>a word you just say. First Firstly, Firstly, many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I met the man of my life, the father of

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<v Speaker 1>our son and the baby we are expecting. He is

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<v Speaker 1>my love, my best friend, the only one that I need. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>again just say second to those who've indicated that I'm devastated,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very well. Thank you. She didn't say that he

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<v Speaker 1>is the unequivocal positive father of this child. Didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be awkward to say that. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just move on. What she's saying obviously confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she and her husband were looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to this new chapter in their lives, and she thought

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<v Speaker 1>that prove that she's got nothing to talk about when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Brad Pitt and Angelina and Joe Lee's divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>She even ended a statement wishing them the best. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I do very much wish that Angelina and Brad, both

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<v Speaker 1>of whom I deeply respect, will find peace in this

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<v Speaker 1>very tumultuous moment. She could have at that point said

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<v Speaker 1>something girl to girl to Angelina, but again it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been awkward. She didn't do it. Okay, now, she

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<v Speaker 1>did her best to clear herself from the drama. But

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<v Speaker 1>look when those two were breaking up, when that divorce

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<v Speaker 1>talk came about, talk not talk. When that divorce talk

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<v Speaker 1>came about, people had a lot of opinions about what's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason, because him being allegedly drunk all the time

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come out right away. And basically that whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Marion Cotillard, some sources would say, is the final

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<v Speaker 1>straw that broke the camel's back. With Brad and Angie's marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, they wasn't married back, they

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<v Speaker 1>were together. They got married in twenty fourteen, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody looked at their romance. Forget about him leaving Jennifer Aniston,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all thought it was a fairy tale, right,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't We want them both to be together. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>mister and missus Smith. Have you ever seen a couple

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<v Speaker 1>heat up the screen more than those two? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>just so gorgeous heads. I fuck Angelina Jolie tails, I

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<v Speaker 1>fucked Brad Pitt. Either way, you win. I don't win,

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<v Speaker 1>but you girls win. Two years later, Angie filed for divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Irreconcilable differences didn't reveal any of the details, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said right away, didn't we didn't know. Then it changed,

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<v Speaker 1>then it changed. Then it's about abuse from Brad and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids were abused and he was John blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd love to know what you think. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>post Maryann Cootiard's daughter. I'm gonna post a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>this kid who was born in twenty seventeen, okay, right

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<v Speaker 1>after she and Brad filmed that movie, and we're reccused

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<v Speaker 1>of having an affair. You tell me if this kid

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<v Speaker 1>named Louise doesn't look so much like Shiloh, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave it at that. I need some water. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I talk so loud when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the mic with you guys. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I do that. Okay, some podcasts I hear perfectly. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Moore's podcast. I love j Moore. I love moore Stories.

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<v Speaker 1>He always has comics on the mics are so low.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to strangle his audio guy. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>amend some of what I said about Virginia Geoffrey and

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<v Speaker 1>her time spent with Jeffrey Epstein. We talked about this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I hold it. I shouldn't say time spent. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like she had a vacation. Obviously, you know it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a vacation. But I know, I said that she

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<v Speaker 1>could have left, or she could have stopped doing what

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing, or she could have stopped accepting the

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<v Speaker 1>money he was giving her. And some of you wrote

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<v Speaker 1>me on the Patren page and other areas saying, a

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<v Speaker 1>j you know, it's not as easy as that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not as cut and dry. Blah blah blah. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I really get it. But you know what, she could

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<v Speaker 1>have stopped speaking to Glene Maxwell, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And now comes some excerpts from her new book called

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's Girl, which comes out any day. Now. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read an excerpt to you about the hell she was

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<v Speaker 1>put through. And by the way, this is coming at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time that the mansion that Jeffrey Epstein lived

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<v Speaker 1>in off Central Park was renovated like crazy, over a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in renovations for its new owners. Some money

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<v Speaker 1>guy on Wall Street, some hedge fun prick, you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The price was eighty million. They went down to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>mail and he scooped it up. What a bargain. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you can live there with the ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>in those rooms. But whatever they knocked down walls, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of the rooms where the hell took place still exists.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, God bless the person who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to live there. Can you imagine? Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>let me put this to you in terms that I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading about the house and it changed hands

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<v Speaker 1>a few times. It was originally bought or constructed by

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<v Speaker 1>an old, very wealthy man who I forgot what line

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<v Speaker 1>of work he was in, but major money. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a supermarket change something? And he gets this big old

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<v Speaker 1>mansion on the Upper east Side. Could you imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>much money you have to have to buy this place

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty million bucks just to store your pick Coasto paintings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein's buddy, the old man Les Wexner, the man

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<v Speaker 1>who ran l Brands, which includes Victoria's Secrets, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>bought this place for millions of dollars just to put

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<v Speaker 1>his Picasso paintings and other art he had in the home.

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<v Speaker 1>And he never once slept there. Do you understand the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of money some people have that's not fuck you money?

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<v Speaker 1>That's fuck me money. Then he sells the house to

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein years later for twenty million bucks. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tifrey and other girls met the devil. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the excerpt from her book, she describes being chained up,

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<v Speaker 1>fitted with a collar, and beaten in these rooms or

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<v Speaker 1>the main room until she passed out. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>god horrifying to just even try to imagine what that

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<v Speaker 1>was like. Epstein had, you know, countless women there, and

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<v Speaker 1>also you know, entertained heads of state, journalists, academics, tech billionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>captains of industry for over twenty years. And he had

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<v Speaker 1>a bedroom, his master bedroom complex. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like they say, one third of the whole third floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Our corner of the third floor was the master bedroom, bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation. And either way, she called this area the dungeon,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why she said Epstein raped her from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand to two thousand and two when she was still

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. She described the room as gloomy, black marble

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol in Epstein's House of Horrors, which was filled with

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<v Speaker 1>Garis decor, and she thought was intended to intimidate and disturb.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the the description. It's terrifying black lacquered cabinetry, blood

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<v Speaker 1>red carpets, a huge taxidermy tiger, and a custom made

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<v Speaker 1>chest set whose pieces were scantily clad women, And she

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to sleep under a tapestry that featured wild

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<v Speaker 1>boars devouring dead animals while screaming children watched on in horror.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you even get that? The room had an

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<v Speaker 1>intercom that Epstein would use to summon her for sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich guys have intercoms. I lived with Robert Evans, he

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<v Speaker 1>had one too. I've been other people's homes. They have intercoms.

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<v Speaker 1>The house yourself fucking big. You need to lift the

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<v Speaker 1>com This is before cell phones. Where now Rocco is

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<v Speaker 1>literally twenty five feet away from me, and I'll text

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<v Speaker 1>them put on the Laker game. Blah blah blah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on it. You know, it's easier than yelling. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>intercoms were a big thing before cell phones. Every room,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, was rid with cameras that he used to

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<v Speaker 1>use to monitor his guests and victims alike. And she

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<v Speaker 1>writes to me though. The house's most unsettling design detail

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<v Speaker 1>was a hidden back staircase whose banister was adorned with

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<v Speaker 1>a series of carved eyeballs that stared at you as

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<v Speaker 1>you grip them, climbing up or down. The message was clear,

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<v Speaker 1>We're always watching you h And the dungeon was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>where she described the worst depravity. These assaults, what Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>called sessions, began with her massaging him, pinching his nipples,

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<v Speaker 1>sucking his toes, and it ended with sex. But then

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<v Speaker 1>one day it became much more torturous. She writes, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>of torture. In session after session, he would play out

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<v Speaker 1>various fantasies with me as the victim. I was gagged, hogtied.

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein liked to put a black leather metal studded color

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<v Speaker 1>attached to a chain that down my hands and feet

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<v Speaker 1>tightly together. The backbreaking contortion is This contraption forced upon

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<v Speaker 1>me caused me so much pain that I prayed I

408
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<v Speaker 1>would black out. When I did, I'd awaken to more abuse. Jesus,

409
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>if this is true, and I don't know why she'd lie,

410
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>well I know why she'd lie, but either way this

411
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 1>is I can't but what I said yesterday, I wasn't

412
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 1>really picturing this kind of morbid shit. I foolishly thought that,

413
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy wasn't having sex and like younger

414
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 1>girls and all sorts of silly kinks for old man,

415
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>like having his nipples pinch and his toes sucked, which

416
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>is not on my menu. But you know, sex is

417
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 1>sex for all different people. You do what you do,

418
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you like what you like. I watch videos where I

419
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 1>see these soy boy men. These I know they're liberal,

420
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I know they are, and their beautiful sexy wives are

421
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 1>talking on Instagram or on podcasts saying he likes when

422
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I bring a man home. He gets off on watching

423
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a man have sex with me. And I look at

424
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>him while I'm in the throes of ecstasy, and I

425
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>know he's so happy. He's not happy. He wishes he

426
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 1>could throw you a fuck like that guy's doing. He can't.

427
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't take this world. I really can't take it.

428
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>The whole level of craziness. I can't even imagine. My

429
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>heart goes out to Vejinga Giffrey and other women who

430
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>went through this, or other girls who went through this shit.

431
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But girls nowadays are insane again. I don't want to

432
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>make this. I'm not blaming her, but how sex has

433
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 1>pervaded women now with OnlyFans, especially Instagram that is showing

434
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>semi nudity. Girls is saying things on Instagram, showing their

435
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 1>bodies in certain way the drive men crazy. But then

436
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 1>you go to OnlyFans and you see what, Look, I'm

437
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you something. I'm gonna be really honest, and

438
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this might get some of you like, hey, j well,

439
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>look at what can I tell you. I'm on Instagram.

440
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of pretty women in my algorithm, and sometimes

441
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 1>they reach out to you, Hey, high, handsome, that kind

442
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 1>of shit, and you know it's bullshit. But sometimes you go, hey, hi,

443
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 1>how are you you? Just because you're bored, you're laying

444
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 1>on your back in bed TV stocks, Hey how are you? Hi?

445
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I really like your page? Whatever the fuck they say,

446
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 1>And it always not always, but it eventually comes down

447
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to the girl wants you to help her with her

448
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 1>OnlyFans page, shooting content for her. I said, first of all,

449
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I've never had this proposition to me. How old are you?

450
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Twenty one? I said, I got a daughter who was

451
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. This is not something I'd ever do. Why

452
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you got to be careful. Well, I'm a nursing student

453
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>in LA and I'm trying to make money as a

454
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>typical SOB story, and you let them talk because i'm

455
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh really, Well, you live downtown by USC

456
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 1>theyn't answer, because there's probably some fat fucking guy in

457
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>some room with six other sweaty dudes. Make him believe

458
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 1>that that girl, but I like to see where it goes.

459
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 1>That's the reporter of me. So you live downtown by USC,

460
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>no answer. I really like to have someone help me

461
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>out with my only fans and collab with me. The

462
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 1>new word collab, I said, Honey, I'm too old and

463
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know what to do. I'm not into,

464
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, watching a young twenty one year old girl

465
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>get half naked. This is ridiculous. I can't do it.

466
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm flattered that you asked me, knowing that it's

467
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all bullshit. I just want to say that, Well, if

468
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you go to my only Fans page, it's not expensive.

469
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 1>They just want you, they want us. This is what

470
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 1>some girls are like right now. It's crazy, and then

471
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you block them and it's over and you go. But

472
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you learn a lesson, like well, I can't believe this

473
00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 1>is going on. This is what I call the work

474
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I do for my son. I'm getting ahead of the

475
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 1>curve for him, like, hey, bro, this is what's out there.

476
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 1>And I've told him, I'm like, look at this. Check

477
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>do you believe to Dad? I know, I believe me.

478
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I go to high school. I know what girls alike.

479
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just telling you I'm doing surveillance ahead of time.

480
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>This is what you're going to walk into. Unbelievable either way.

481
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to shit on young women, but there

482
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 1>are opportunities now that pertain to sexuality that women didn't

483
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>have many years ago. Just think about it. We used

484
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to know, I don't know, twenty fifteen porn stars back

485
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 1>in the day. I use the word star because they

486
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>were porn stars. Seika Nylon Chambers, Barbara Dad, Christy Canyon.

487
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>There was so many of them. Vanessa del Rio, all

488
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 1>of us guys laid down on our back with one

489
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>hand and made ourselves happy to their images. Now it

490
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you're an adult actress. It doesn't matter

491
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 1>because America's got millions of young women who are just

492
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>as sexy, if not sexier, and they're getting laid on

493
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 1>their only Fans page and they're like, they're literally the

494
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 1>girl next door. We don't need to see you at

495
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 1>your makeup and the camera crew. That doesn't matter. Let's

496
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 1>just get the girl lives around the corner who's letting

497
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 1>the guy bang her from the back while she films it.

498
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>That is like real voyeuristic crazy shit that men were

499
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>never able to see, and now it's everywhere. And that's

500
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>what these women nowadays are looking to do, and they're

501
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 1>making a lot of money. It's just crazy. I know

502
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>we lament the fact that AI is going to take

503
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of jobs away, but if you were an

504
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>adult film actress and all of a sudden tens of

505
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>thousands of regular chicks come out of the woodwork to

506
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>take your job, oh my god. Either way, let me

507
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>get back to Virginia's your frame in this book. I

508
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>don't believe she says anything about the fat dad. And

509
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this takes some of what I said yesterday into account.

510
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you know. Look, this chick would go

511
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 1>home to her parents for months on end, and then

512
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 1>she'd go back to Epstein's house of harras whenever he

513
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>called her, and he called her over and over. She

514
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't living with him. It's important you know that she

515
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>was living with her parents, obviously because she was underage.

516
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 1>But he would call her and if she wanted to

517
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 1>come and go with him, she would. Something is very

518
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>steep about this story. Something is very stinky about the book.

519
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's not politically correct to say this,

520
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>but why did she keep going back? It could have

521
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>It couldn't have been just about the money. I'll tell you.

522
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 1>One of my patrons sent me a text about this

523
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and let me see where is it. Well, here it is.

524
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say who it is, but she's

525
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a great patron for a long time. AJ My sister

526
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 1>was five years older than me and we so were

527
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriends. I remember smelling Aramis cologne for the first time,

528
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>getting turned on. Blah blah blah. Okay because I talked

529
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.839
<v Speaker 1>about cologne yesterday. Okay. Recently I attended a lecture of

530
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>five survivors of sex trafficking. They all talked about the

531
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>grooming process and how for each one of them it

532
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>was different. The book I read told about one fourteen

533
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>year old girl and how the son of their neighbor

534
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 1>coorded her for his father slowly, and finally they got

535
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>her to stay longer in parties, leading to five older

536
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 1>men that she trusted who drugged and raped her and

537
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 1>dideotaped it and blackmailed her into more. It all led

538
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 1>down a very dark path of shame and control. I

539
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 1>truly didn't understand this horror that too many girls get

540
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 1>caught up in, and I thought, like you couldn't they

541
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 1>just walk away? Until I read a book Pearl at

542
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mailbox. Haven't read that, but I'll look into it.

543
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Pearl being the woman that recognized a frightened sex worker

544
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 1>dropping off mail that was the only privilege this girl

545
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 1>was allowed, and she offered to hide this girl away

546
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 1>when she was ready. And eventually this girl was ready,

547
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and this woman saved her. A great story. Did Virginia

548
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Giuffrey need a woman like Pearl to come to the door.

549
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just don't like it. She kept

550
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 1>going back because she wasn't held captive at she as

551
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>she has asserted in the past. And listen, I think

552
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the press is knowingly turning a blind eye to the

553
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 1>fact that she was a happy and willing participant. I

554
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.559
<v Speaker 1>know that those terms are not going to land nicely

555
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of you. Let's just say she was

556
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a participant, and probably, if you know anything about Epstein

557
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and Maxwell, probably she recruited more girls for them too,

558
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 1>up until the point that you know, Epstein decided to

559
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>knock her out of his rotation, took her off the

560
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>gravy train. And then what do you do? You play

561
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>victim to get some money. I know it's cold and

562
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 1>callous to say it that way, but things go that

563
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 1>way sometimes. And by the way, Virginia Tifray's sister or

564
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 1>brother and sister in law, you see them crying. They're

565
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>all upset, saying they believe her story. Okay, where were

566
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they when this was happening? Where were her pairs parents?

567
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>All about it? I finally saw a photo of Charlie

568
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Kirk's parents. Where the hell were they when they're Charlie

569
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>kirk memorial slash fundraising events, slash pyrotechnics at Stravaganza was

570
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>going on. That's for a different show, But these people,

571
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, are shedding crocodile tears because where were

572
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>they when this seventeen year old girl, daughter, sister, sister

573
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>in law, what have you? Was traveling a lover the

574
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>world with a known pervert. Girls with normal lives and

575
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>normal families don't do that. They normally don't fall into

576
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>these traps. The parent of a girl who does this

577
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>would try to get her out of this situation. They'd

578
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>fight tooth and nail. And by the way, while I'm

579
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>at it, think about this. I've been a turm this

580
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for over thirty years. But just you don't have to

581
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>be a journalist to think about this. Where are the

582
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 1>other collaborations? Where are the other stories from the other victims?

583
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to use your names. Girls, just say

584
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened to you? I don't read any of them.

585
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>If there were thousands of victims, as we're being told,

586
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>where are their stories? You're telling me? Well, Harvey Weinstein

587
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>was up against the wall. How many girls came out

588
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of the woodwork? And who's coming out of the woodwork

589
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 1>for one of the most disgusting, vile assholes in the world.

590
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Just Virginia Jifray. This isn't going away because the public

591
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>knows we're not near the truth yet, that's the main thing.

592
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 1>We're not near the truth. And now comes word from

593
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>the woman who was Virginia Giffrey Ghostwrider she says she

594
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 1>knows who's on Epstein's list. Oh my god, that is

595
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a big statement. Let me say this, and this is

596
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>where I'm gonna get into some things, and the show's

597
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna run long, but fuck it, it's important and I

598
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>want you to know I think. Let me say this.

599
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because I'm from the old school of reporting.

600
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I learned from the old guard I learned from Pete

601
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Hamil and Jimmy Bresley. You know, I've told you two

602
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest reporters who ever lived. And I was

603
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to work with my heroes during my days

604
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the newspaper world. I mean, one of the reasons

605
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 1>why those men were so great at what they did

606
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and the reason for boys like me to grow up

607
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and want to sound just like them while we deliver

608
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the newspapers. What they're names in there, with their bylines

609
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>there and sometimes their photos, it's because they attack stories

610
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>from different angles. And yeah, I'm using the word attacked

611
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<v Speaker 1>because that's what you have to do. Whenever you're approaching

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<v Speaker 1>a particularly juicy story. You need to know that the

613
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<v Speaker 1>story can turn around and eat you up if you

614
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<v Speaker 1>come at it from the wrong angle and That's what

615
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<v Speaker 1>too many reporters do nowadays. When they're not reporting, when

616
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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing their jobs, they eventually go out a

617
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<v Speaker 1>story and it's from the wrong angle, or they're being

618
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<v Speaker 1>told to go at it from the angle their editor

619
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<v Speaker 1>or publisher wants them to go on. And worse, they're

620
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<v Speaker 1>going at the angle that they think they're fans and

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<v Speaker 1>and and their political colleagues want them to go at

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<v Speaker 1>it from. That's not the way you work as a reporter.

623
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<v Speaker 1>Covering a big, juicy story is like walking into the

624
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<v Speaker 1>ocean and and and and be mindful of the currents.

625
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you some good shit. Write this down

626
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<v Speaker 1>because no one gives you shit like I do. No one.

627
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still arguing of people have seven dollars a month,

628
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<v Speaker 1>fucking twenty two cents a day. Don't get me started.

629
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<v Speaker 1>Me mohile assholes again, eight fucking figures to talk nonsense

630
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<v Speaker 1>about what guys they fucked. I can't take it. Fucking

631
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<v Speaker 1>world's upside down. It really is, though, guys, It really

632
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<v Speaker 1>is like walking into the ocean and you think you're

633
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<v Speaker 1>fine because you know how deep the ocean is. Oh,

634
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<v Speaker 1>you get it. You're on the beach. I know, I

635
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<v Speaker 1>can see my feet, I can see the bottom, and

636
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<v Speaker 1>then a wave hits. In other words, waves come at

637
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<v Speaker 1>you like facts do in a conversation or when you're

638
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<v Speaker 1>going after a story, and depending upon what facts are

639
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<v Speaker 1>coming at you, it's not unlike negotiating with the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with me. So you take a few steps further out.

641
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<v Speaker 1>Now you're up to your waist. Now you're up to

642
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<v Speaker 1>your chest, and before you know it, the ocean lifts

643
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<v Speaker 1>you up and now you're paddling. It's all fun, your

644
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<v Speaker 1>dog paddling. You're kind of flopping around the water. You

645
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<v Speaker 1>know how to swim. What's there to worry about? But

646
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<v Speaker 1>then you're introduced to things you didn't see coming waves,

647
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<v Speaker 1>white caps, currants, maybe a shark. Maybe your foot touched

648
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<v Speaker 1>the bottom and you felt something hard startles you. Where

649
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<v Speaker 1>am I? Now? You're trying to survive in the story

650
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<v Speaker 1>you thought you were gonna write. Because when you go

651
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<v Speaker 1>to the ocean, you think I'm gonna go out there

652
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and swimmer, huntre your hearts come back and you think

653
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do that, But the ocean tells you what

654
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do. And when you're chasing stories. Stories tell

655
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<v Speaker 1>you how to go about it. You have to be accepting.

656
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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're trying to survive the story you thought

657
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<v Speaker 1>you were gonna write, But you don't write the story.

658
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<v Speaker 1>The story writes you. Oh my god, this is so deep.

659
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<v Speaker 1>I hope you tape you and you got to keep this.

660
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<v Speaker 1>It's too good. The point is this, Mike, if I die,

661
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>make sure this this podcast is heard by everyone. It's

662
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>too good. Here's the point. When you're in over your

663
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<v Speaker 1>head and the currents have you at their mercy, you

664
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<v Speaker 1>got to learn to relax and stay calm. It's the

665
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<v Speaker 1>hardest thing in the world, but you have to do it.

666
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<v Speaker 1>You got to keep your eye on the shoreline. The

667
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>shoreline is the story. Do you understand, and just stay

668
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 1>parallel to the story, and eventually those currents should bring

669
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<v Speaker 1>you back to the beach. But while you're out there,

670
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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be ready. You got to be willing to

671
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<v Speaker 1>change your approach for the story. AJ this sounds so confusing.

672
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>What about who? What? Whent there? But yet who? What? When? Where? Why?

673
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<v Speaker 1>Is very important? But sometimes things command you that you

674
00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 1>can't grasp. Like Jimmy Breslin, Oh my god, he went

675
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to file a column on President Kennedy's death. It's a

676
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>great story. He and let's say, thousands of other reporters

677
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>across the world covering this assassination. All those other reporters,

678
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, wrote the basic story about the assassination and

679
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>how their country is in mourning, blah blah blah. Of course,

680
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<v Speaker 1>naturally that is the story, just like it was with

681
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Kirk, except it's not the story. There's another Angleton

682
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<v Speaker 1>story that'll make everybody sit up and read, Sit up

683
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<v Speaker 1>and listen, sit up and admire. Jimmy Preslan and other

684
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>great reporters like Pete Hamill learned to let the story

685
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>write you. So what did Jimmy Preslan do? He drove

686
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<v Speaker 1>to Arlington National Cemetery and talked up the man whose

687
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<v Speaker 1>job at was to dig our beloved president's grave. How

688
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 1>fucking genius is that no one thought of it? And

689
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>he wrote this story and it changed the trajectory of

690
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<v Speaker 1>his career because, like I said, thousands of reporters were

691
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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d c. For this funeral, and Presla knew

692
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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't perform the simplest act of this very simple

693
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<v Speaker 1>business of reporting if it had to do with these

694
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, this crowded circumstances of it all. So he

695
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<v Speaker 1>went into the White House library lobby and he just

696
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<v Speaker 1>began to think about the cemetery and he said to

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<v Speaker 1>a colleague, I'm gonna go over to the cemetery and

698
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<v Speaker 1>get the grave digger. He thought it was a great idea,

699
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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of the press corps covered the whole elaborate,

700
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>somber choreography of the funeral. Jimmy Bresler is talking to

701
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<v Speaker 1>the guy who dug Kennedy's grave. He's all alone. I

702
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>used to work with another great, my favorite sports writer,

703
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Mike Lupika, who not only did I share a building

704
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<v Speaker 1>with him, but they came a day where my column

705
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<v Speaker 1>toward the front of the paper, let's say, page seven

706
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<v Speaker 1>and bre and Lupig's sports column, which is probably at

707
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<v Speaker 1>the end of the paper in the sports section, we

708
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<v Speaker 1>were on the same truck, which means the page that's printed,

709
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<v Speaker 1>whether it's page five and in other words, it's one page, right,

710
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<v Speaker 1>whatever's on page five, you also have page fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say they're the same, and that runs through the

712
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<v Speaker 1>printing press. And the day that my column and his

713
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<v Speaker 1>column were on the same truck. Oh my god, I said,

714
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<v Speaker 1>I fucking made it. I made it. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Mike Lupika. So Lupiga was a hero, might

716
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<v Speaker 1>as well work with him too, And Lupiga said that

717
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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy gave a lot of credit to this story. To

718
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<v Speaker 1>another old man do I work with At New York News,

719
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<v Speaker 1>they named Murray Kempton, phenomenal columnist. I worked with him

720
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<v Speaker 1>when he was very old. But my god, was he

721
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<v Speaker 1>great Murray. And the thing that Murray, Murray Kempton said

722
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<v Speaker 1>was brilliant because back in the old days nineteen fifty six,

723
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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees Don Larson pitched a perfect game in the

724
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<v Speaker 1>World Series. Right, that means no hits, no walks, no errors.

725
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<v Speaker 1>It's very very uncommon. He does this in the World

726
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<v Speaker 1>Series against the pitcher named sal Madley, who was very good.

727
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<v Speaker 1>And Murray Kempton had the foresight to say, yeah, lost

728
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<v Speaker 1>and pitched a great game, But could you imagine being

729
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<v Speaker 1>Sal Madley guy pitched a game of his life and

730
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<v Speaker 1>lost two to nothing. And that whole kind of pivot

731
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<v Speaker 1>in the world of journalism changed journalism. And it's something

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<v Speaker 1>I learned to do when I was a young sports

733
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<v Speaker 1>writer the technique of you know you're reporting on a

734
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<v Speaker 1>big story, get the point of view of a minor player, right,

735
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's an unexpected participant. And now they teach this

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<v Speaker 1>in journalism classes. You know, like I've said when I

737
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<v Speaker 1>was a sports trener, go to the loser's locker room.

738
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<v Speaker 1>That's where the stories are. The winners say the same shit.

739
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Every day. History is written by the winners. But let's

740
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>talk to the losers. Heir's to the losers. Lift up

741
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the glasses, as Sinatra says. But people will always remember

742
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Breslen's grave digger story. And the guy's name was Pollard,

743
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<v Speaker 1>his last name was Pollard. He dug the grave for

744
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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy at Arlington National Cemetery. And before that, Jimmy Presden

745
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 1>did a great story about being in the room where

746
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<v Speaker 1>John Kennedy's body is trying to be resuscitated, all those

747
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy panic minutes, a surgeon sodging the president's heart even

748
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<v Speaker 1>though he's dead, and jack Yannass is standing there watching

749
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<v Speaker 1>it all. Tremendous story. It's Thanksgiving time. What do you

750
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>think Preslin does? He does this on Thanksgiving morning. He

751
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<v Speaker 1>goes to the automat, which is a place in New

752
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<v Speaker 1>York City where you put coins in a machine and

753
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<v Speaker 1>you point to a sandwich that was already made, or

754
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<v Speaker 1>a piece of apple pie. You hit the button and

755
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<v Speaker 1>that would come down the chute. The food was already prepared.

756
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<v Speaker 1>That was the automat. You bring it to a table

757
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<v Speaker 1>and you eat. It's gone, but it was great. And

758
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, he goes to the automat and he writes,

759
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<v Speaker 1>really what he's thinking, that the city is in mourning

760
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<v Speaker 1>or the country is in mourning. But he never says that.

761
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<v Speaker 1>He just describes the lonely heart sitting in that automat

762
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<v Speaker 1>that day on Thanksgiving, and he says otherwise there was

763
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<v Speaker 1>a vacant day in the automat, which was right. Yesterday

764
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 1>was a day meant to be vacant. It just he

765
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>drips gold when he writes. So that became the Grave

766
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<v Speaker 1>Digger theory of journalism, and people follow it. Now. It's

767
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<v Speaker 1>great love it. I'm not going to read the whole

768
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<v Speaker 1>article of the Grave Digger, but I want to read

769
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<v Speaker 1>you some paragraphs. So he wrote this kills me, He said,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Pollard is forty two. He's a slim man with

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<v Speaker 1>a mustache, who was born in Pittsburgh and served as

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<v Speaker 1>a private in the three hundred and fifty second Engineers

773
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<v Speaker 1>Battalion in Burma in World War Two. He's an equipment

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<v Speaker 1>operator of grade ten, which means he gets three dollars

775
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<v Speaker 1>and one cent an hour and one of the last

776
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<v Speaker 1>to serve. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who was the thirty fifth

777
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<v Speaker 1>president of the country, was a working man who earns

778
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 1>three bucks and change an hour, and said it was

779
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<v Speaker 1>an honor to give to dig the grave. Oh my god,

780
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<v Speaker 1>it sucker beautiful. And then the fact that he gets

781
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<v Speaker 1>the exact amount of money the guy's making and what

782
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<v Speaker 1>he did in World War Two, understanding what he did

783
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<v Speaker 1>with his job was it's simple reporting. But it's beautiful.

784
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<v Speaker 1>And then he says this, I can't. He's talking about

785
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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Onassis. Everybody watched her while she walked. She is

786
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<v Speaker 1>the mother of two fatherless children, and she was walking

787
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<v Speaker 1>into the history of this country because she was showing

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who felt old and helpless and without hope, that

789
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<v Speaker 1>she had this terrible strength that everybody needed so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they had killed her husband and his blood

791
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<v Speaker 1>ran out to her lap when he died, she could

792
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<v Speaker 1>walk through the streets and to his grave and help

793
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<v Speaker 1>us all while she walked. There ain't no twenty dollars

794
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<v Speaker 1>word in that paragraph. It's just ba ba ba ba bah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful work. One more paragraph. Indulge me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stop. The ceremonies began with jet planes roaring overhead

797
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<v Speaker 1>and leaves falling from the sky. That image a the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of a jet and the slow descent of a leaf.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't On this hill behind the coffin, people prayed aloud.

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<v Speaker 1>They were cameramen and writers and soldiers and secret service men,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were saying prayers out loud and choking. I

802
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<v Speaker 1>don't think you understand to end a sentence with choking.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you want to know more. It makes you look,

804
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<v Speaker 1>It makes you see the scene in front of the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyndon Johnson kept his head turned to his right. He

806
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<v Speaker 1>is president and he had to remain composed. It was

807
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<v Speaker 1>better that he did not look at the casket and

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<v Speaker 1>grave of John Fitzgerald Kennedy too often. Then it was over,

809
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<v Speaker 1>and black limousines rushed under the cemetery trees and out

810
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<v Speaker 1>onto the boulevard toward the White House. What time is it,

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<v Speaker 1>a man standing on the hill was asked. He looked

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<v Speaker 1>at his watch. Twenty minutes past three, and Clifton Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't at the funeral. He was over behind the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>digging grave at three bucks in one cent an hour

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<v Speaker 1>in another section of the cemetery. He didn't know who

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<v Speaker 1>the graves were for. He was just digging them and

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<v Speaker 1>then covering them with boards. They'll be used, he told me,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't know. When I tried to see the grave,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was so crowded, a soldier told me I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get through. So I just stay here and work, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll get over there a little bit later, just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of look around and see how it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told you, sir, it's an honor man man.

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<v Speaker 1>I could cry. It was such a different time, different men,

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<v Speaker 1>different manners, class, intelligence, style, diligence, and the stubbornness to

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<v Speaker 1>stay real. There's very little of that nowadays. So whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I can attack a story from a different angle, I

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<v Speaker 1>do so because I think of what guys like Pete

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<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy did. But this ghost writer, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the story, sorry, I took a large, huge twist and

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<v Speaker 1>turning tangent. This ghost writer for Virginia Geufrey just foolishly

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<v Speaker 1>told everyone that she knows who's on Epstein's list. She

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<v Speaker 1>should have never said that, should have kept that a

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<v Speaker 1>secret and maybe use it to advance her career dropping

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<v Speaker 1>tidbits here and there. Fuck ghostwriting. If you got that information,

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<v Speaker 1>write your own book. But now I fear the assholes

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<v Speaker 1>who want to make a quick buck are gonna swarm her.

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<v Speaker 1>And worse than that, how does she not realize that

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<v Speaker 1>dropping that kind of information is so dangerous at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in the world. You guys, Right now, the world

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<v Speaker 1>is on boil. You have to leave the kitchen and

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<v Speaker 1>come back. The water's coming over, the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>pot is splashing on the range. And it's worse when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the biggest story in the world, the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein List. It ain't going away. Millions of people seem

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<v Speaker 1>to think if we only knew who was on his list,

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<v Speaker 1>we somehow would all figure out a way to calm

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<v Speaker 1>things down and go on and live our lives normally. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, the opposite is going to happen because the world,

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<v Speaker 1>especially America and Washington, DC, would become a mighty churning

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<v Speaker 1>dark ocean with twenty foot swells and currents that could

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<v Speaker 1>spin a tug boat like a paper cup. And if

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<v Speaker 1>this ghostwriter was smart, she would never have mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>because she could have attacked the story from a different angle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she could have kept her mouth shut, because in this

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<v Speaker 1>day and age, information and data are king. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you right now, she better be ready to handle

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect storm that's coming her way, because now the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein list isn't the story today. She made herself the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can see Jimmy or jb One as

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<v Speaker 1>he called himself, hunched over his typewriter punching out letters

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<v Speaker 1>like a lightning and filing a story that will resound

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<v Speaker 1>like thunder. That was gold. Not afraid to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>I madej Benz and I was your daily Unfiltered podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for October twenty third, twenty twenty five. File it away,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too good. Talk to this tomorrow.
