Speaker 1: From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza fame. Uh, he'd liked
Speaker 1: to be walked on a leash and play really dirty
Speaker 1: kinky sex games. Is uh the guy put the cock
Speaker 1: in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody aj Benzi
Speaker 1: here with fame, is it? Bitch? This is your Deli
Speaker 1: Unfiltered podcast for October twenty third, twenty twenty five. One
Speaker 1: to oh two three two two five Two's a wild
Speaker 1: but not as wild as yesterday. Still a great date,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna bring you a really good show today. Now,
Speaker 1: some shows I really get into and sit down and
Speaker 1: block them out, send myself messages. It takes it like
Speaker 1: right now, Just so you guys understand, typically a forty
Speaker 1: minute show is about twelve to fourteen pages of writing.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't mean like a whole word for
Speaker 1: word writing, but you know, I I tend to send
Speaker 1: myself notes. Not everything is word for word. As you know,
Speaker 1: I talk conversationally. Some things I write out because I
Speaker 1: think it's important for certain points to hit, and this
Speaker 1: is one of those shows. But just typically, you know,
Speaker 1: forty minutes, twelve to fifteen pages of words, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of writing. I mean, even novelists don't do twelve
Speaker 1: pages a day. But I can get up and spit
Speaker 1: out things because I just love to do what I do.
Speaker 1: I've told you my hands moved. I wish I had
Speaker 1: four more arms, eight more hands. The thoughts come to
Speaker 1: my head too quickly. I try to use a dictation,
Speaker 1: the dictation thing on my laptop, but I talk too
Speaker 1: fast for that. I have to wait till the words
Speaker 1: catch up to me. But either way, just so you know,
Speaker 1: I have like thirty five pages that I haven't even
Speaker 1: touched shit, that are in my laptop ready to go,
Speaker 1: because I have angles on different stories I want to
Speaker 1: talk about. Today is a good show. But first I
Speaker 1: want to say that one of my listeners, Jeremiah, I
Speaker 1: don't know his last name, Jeremiah, because his last name
Speaker 1: is like a play on words. It's not his real
Speaker 1: last name. But he contacted me about two weeks ago
Speaker 1: and said, hey, man, I'm friends with a guy you
Speaker 1: know and a really good actor and Frankie Adonis, who's
Speaker 1: you know, been in so many movies with scores ac
Speaker 1: you see him and everything. And he goes, I have
Speaker 1: a copy of the movie short you made. I think
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen ninety four, maybe ninety five. It's
Speaker 1: a long time ago, but it's a twenty minute short
Speaker 1: directed by this kid named James von Vit. He died,
Speaker 1: He's not I looked him up. He's dead, died in
Speaker 1: his fifties. It was called Revolving Doors and me and
Speaker 1: Willie Deneo, who you know is the guy being Gravesend
Speaker 1: who decided not to cast me after season one, that
Speaker 1: little fucking prick. Me and him play We play hitmen,
Speaker 1: and we're stalking the actor Christopher Maloney. But back then
Speaker 1: no one knew Christapher Maloney. In ninety four ninety five,
Speaker 1: he was on the way up. And I can't even
Speaker 1: remember what I've seen it, but we did it in
Speaker 1: a little Italy. It was a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: don't think I have any dialogue. It's just me and
Speaker 1: Willie clocking Chris and waiting to shoot him, which we
Speaker 1: did in a against the storefront in little Italy. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you something about shooting a gun in
Speaker 1: Little Italy, not a film a gun. You have to
Speaker 1: get permission, naturally, from the mayor's office. You've got to
Speaker 1: go through all the rigamarole and the red tape. Look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a fake gun on the street on
Speaker 1: Mulberry Street on this date, this hour. You gotta get pyramits.
Speaker 1: So we're doing this, we're doing the short. I mean
Speaker 1: we're in the thick of Mulberry Street. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: the best restaurants are there, everybody's their shopping. All the
Speaker 1: old Italian people are sitting on the stoop leaning out
Speaker 1: their windows like a typical day. They don't want to
Speaker 1: hit gun shots beneath them because it could be a mobster.
Speaker 1: Typically it would be. Although they don't really kill anybody, literally,
Speaker 1: not since Joey Gallo got shot dead in his played
Speaker 1: the Linguini with clams. But the point is it's pretty
Speaker 1: startling to hear gunfire. So cops come up as we're
Speaker 1: making our way to shoot the scene. They go, hey,
Speaker 1: they get the director, James, you guys got a permit.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we got everything. We got the permit
Speaker 1: for the mayor's office for the city, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: but you got permission. And the director, who's obviously not Italian,
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, we got all the proper permitcis He's
Speaker 1: asking his assistant his ad show them, you know the paper,
Speaker 1: and they're pulling out permits and the cops go, not enough,
Speaker 1: I mean permission from Chatcha. And the director doesn't know
Speaker 1: what I said. I know Johnny Chatcha down the street. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Johnny knows, chat Chaw knows were shooting.
Speaker 1: Johnny cha Chaws an old character, was an old character
Speaker 1: who lived on Mulberry Street, had a joint down at
Speaker 1: the end, at the end of the block, a food joint.
Speaker 1: He would sit out front, sit in his chair with
Speaker 1: his buddy or a revolving amount of buddies, and they'd
Speaker 1: sit in front of the store. And everybody knew Johnny
Speaker 1: chat Chaw. It was a different world. You all knew him.
Speaker 1: You shook his hand, maybe you leaned over, gave mkiss.
Speaker 1: That was his joint, nice little clothfee joints on pastries.
Speaker 1: Who knows what kind of front it was for the mob.
Speaker 1: But you had to get permission from Johnny chat Chaw.
Speaker 1: When I say, chat Chat, Cia, Cia, you gotta get
Speaker 1: permission from chat chat to shoot a gun on Mulberry Street.
Speaker 1: And we did. And the cops said, okay, if Johnny
Speaker 1: cha Chaw knows, it's all good. They left. I missed
Speaker 1: that about New York. But this short is terrible. There's
Speaker 1: an actress in this who her name was Maria Lisa Costanzo.
Speaker 1: When I watched the first five minutes, I couldn't keep watching.
Speaker 1: She's so bad. But this is what twenty minutes shorts
Speaker 1: are four it's to hopefully launch somebody who's in it
Speaker 1: to be a star. Well, Chris Mamoni certainly blew up.
Speaker 1: Has he been on that show for what twenty five
Speaker 1: thirty years? It's been forever, but we struck up a
Speaker 1: friendship after that. He was always good to me. He
Speaker 1: did my talk show. He was one of my first
Speaker 1: guests on the show in New York City, and you know,
Speaker 1: we did an interest show that I can't find anymore
Speaker 1: where I busted him in the street, put him up
Speaker 1: against the fence. Chris was good for me, good to me,
Speaker 1: and good with me. But this other shit, Realisa constans
Speaker 1: are terrible. Willie DeMeo certainly made it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't like graves end, but he did what he had
Speaker 1: to do. Even though someone else writes those scripts. I'm
Speaker 1: not stupid. The guy can't put five sentences together. But
Speaker 1: either way, and I did okay, So sometimes shorts bear out,
Speaker 1: but not for Mari Lisa Coistenzo. Either way, I'm going
Speaker 1: to make this into a DVD because who the hell
Speaker 1: how was a VHS player anymore? I don't they're life
Speaker 1: expensive now, right? I mean whatever? I have so many
Speaker 1: VHS's from all my days on talk shows and different
Speaker 1: TV shows. I want to play the should they get
Speaker 1: a VHS player or should I just make everything a
Speaker 1: DVD and get a DVD. I only ow a DVD player.
Speaker 1: I'm not like those kind of went by the wayside
Speaker 1: with streaming and everything else. I don't know, it's not
Speaker 1: even it's like it's an uptown problem anyway. I love
Speaker 1: The Morning Show on Apple TV. I've watched it for
Speaker 1: now a couple of years. I like it. I love
Speaker 1: the way it began with Steve Carell. People forget that
Speaker 1: they really have used the situations in our lives, whether
Speaker 1: it's COVID or the political climate or Cexral arrest. But whatever,
Speaker 1: they've done everything. They've incorporated all those bullshit topics into
Speaker 1: their show. With Jennifer Anderson and Reese Witherspoon as the
Speaker 1: main two, Billy crud Up as the pretty much The
Speaker 1: Mail Star, and I think it's an entertaining show. It's
Speaker 1: in New York. I like it. It's about broadcast journalism,
Speaker 1: which is right up my alley. There are some beautiful
Speaker 1: women on that show, obviously Anniston and Reese Witherspoon, and
Speaker 1: I would tell you to listen to Jennifer Anderson's interview
Speaker 1: with Dak Shepherd on his podcast Armchair Quarterback. It's really good.
Speaker 1: She's so down to earth, and Dak Shepherd said something
Speaker 1: to her on the show that I echo, and I've
Speaker 1: told you guys before. Dak said to her, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're so happy here. I got to tell you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one thing seeing you on TV, but when I
Speaker 1: first met you in person, oh my god, you blew
Speaker 1: me away. You're so beautiful. You would think ordinarily that's
Speaker 1: a guy blowing smoke up a chick's skirt. Now when
Speaker 1: you see Jennifer Aniston in person, I'm talking back the
Speaker 1: Friend's day, not that she's not that she's ugly. Now
Speaker 1: she's still a beautiful woman. But back in the Friend's day,
Speaker 1: when I met her at a place called Sushi Roku,
Speaker 1: and she knew me, she came to me here, aj Benze,
Speaker 1: we're waiting on the bathroom line. Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love your show. Like I was talking to the
Speaker 1: chit from Friends, I was talking to Rachel. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's just the same person. But those eyes, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Greek women. Greek women can either be absolutely fall down
Speaker 1: gorgeous or they can look like they need to be
Speaker 1: on a farm. I'm sorry they you know, they break
Speaker 1: down early, they get very heavy, whatever the fuck, they
Speaker 1: get hairy like Italian women. The joke is Italian woman
Speaker 1: get hairy. I've really never had an Italian girlfriend who
Speaker 1: got hairy. But okay, that's that's the talk. Yeah. Annison
Speaker 1: in person is a knock down, drag out beauty. So
Speaker 1: there's her. There's Karen Pittman who plays this shit named
Speaker 1: Miya Jordan. There's Nicole Bahari who plays a young journalist
Speaker 1: named Christina. She's a hot piece. She's only five to
Speaker 1: one and she has her problem. She is another actress
Speaker 1: who has to tell you what she suffers from. But
Speaker 1: you know what, just take a look at her on
Speaker 1: this show. There's one shit I can't stand. Greta Lee.
Speaker 1: She's an Asian actress. Well, she's an actress, and she's
Speaker 1: Asian and she's absolutely awful. When I tell you, there's
Speaker 1: nothing redeeming about any time she's on screen, I'm not lying.
Speaker 1: She's awful. She's not pretty, she doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: use her face when she's speaking. I'm gonna leave it
Speaker 1: at that. But apparently on the last episode she's seen
Speaker 1: boarding a plane and leaving and she's she's gone. It
Speaker 1: looks like she's off the show, which is fine by me. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: as I'm watching the Morning show, one of the beautiful
Speaker 1: actresses on there is the French beauty Marion Cotillard. I know,
Speaker 1: you know her. She's crazy gorgeous, although she does need
Speaker 1: to remove that mole from the center of her forehead.
Speaker 1: There's some actresses like that. There's one on Tulsa King,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's like a mole on the side
Speaker 1: of her cheek. She's a beautiful one. Get it off,
Speaker 1: you know. I did yesterday get this. When I was
Speaker 1: in Chicago, I went and got these skin tanks removed
Speaker 1: around my eye. I think there were four or five
Speaker 1: of them, and I'm like, yeah, get rid of these things.
Speaker 1: And it was worth it. It was a few hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: but I feel better looking at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: There's one on my neck and it always, you know,
Speaker 1: my necklaces, always touching. It doesn't hurt, but it's there,
Speaker 1: and it reminds me of my older aunts and uncles.
Speaker 1: They began to get these things when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and I say, why would they keep them on their body?
Speaker 1: They're ugly. Well, now I understand his finances, this medical insurance.
Speaker 1: Who knew who was covered what it costs back then.
Speaker 1: But my old aunts and uncles didn't do it. It's
Speaker 1: a different generation of people. I don't want them. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I'm twirling this one on my neck. It's tiny, to
Speaker 1: the size of a matchhead. I went and got a
Speaker 1: nail clipper and I cut this bastard off. It hurt
Speaker 1: all it hurt, and it bled like I was shot.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a Charlie Kirk joke, but
Speaker 1: it bled and slapped a band aid on it. Now
Speaker 1: I got a red mark on my neck, but I
Speaker 1: feel better about I don't want that shit on my body.
Speaker 1: There's one of my arm too. I don't want these things.
Speaker 1: Why do we get them? Anyhoy? Marianne Coat Yard is gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and I want to give you a theory that's been
Speaker 1: out there, but I'm gonna chime in here. Marianne Coatyard
Speaker 1: and Brad Pitt were together in a movie back and
Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago twenty sixteen called Allied. It was
Speaker 1: a big World War two movie Robert Sebekiz directed. It
Speaker 1: didn't really get much play. I saw it, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't great. Brad Pitt plays an intelligence officer and Cotiard
Speaker 1: is this French resistance fighter and they're on a mission
Speaker 1: behind enemy lines and guess what, they fall in love. Okay,
Speaker 1: so these two didn't date per se. But the rumor
Speaker 1: was that, you know, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's divorce
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen might have been because he had a
Speaker 1: fling with her. We always hear his drinking and how
Speaker 1: bad he was when he got high and drunk, and okay,
Speaker 1: but this is the other angle, or in addition to
Speaker 1: the he's always drunk angle. Marianne Courtyard always denied it.
Speaker 1: She said, you know, she was in a happy relationship
Speaker 1: with her partner, some frenchman named Boullam, Gullyam, whatever the fuck,
Speaker 1: and they were expecting their second child. While this rumor
Speaker 1: was abounding, so did they have an affair during their movie? Well,
Speaker 1: she wrote that it's completely false. She put out a
Speaker 1: statement when this thing was bouncing around. But just play
Speaker 1: along with me, be a little detective here like I am,
Speaker 1: and try to put two and two together so it
Speaker 1: equals four or more than four. She announced that she
Speaker 1: was pregnant with her second child with her partner, the
Speaker 1: actor the Frenchman, and she called him the man of
Speaker 1: my life. He's the man of my life. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: but I suspected she had a flavor with Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: and that kid is Brad's kid, and they asked her
Speaker 1: about it, and she said, I'm not used to condemning,
Speaker 1: commenting on things like this, nor talking nor take it
Speaker 1: restart over because the guy above me, this fucking kid
Speaker 1: who raps he's got the base on Sola. I want
Speaker 1: to strangle them low on a fucking base apartment. LI
Speaker 1: haven't done. This is nineteen ninety seven, anyhow, she said,
Speaker 1: I'm not used to commenting on things like this nor
Speaker 1: taking them seriously. But as this situation is spirally and
Speaker 1: affecting people I love, I have to speak up. Firstly,
Speaker 1: many years ago. By the way, firstly is really not
Speaker 1: a word you just say. First Firstly, Firstly, many years ago,
Speaker 1: I met the man of my life, the father of
Speaker 1: our son and the baby we are expecting. He is
Speaker 1: my love, my best friend, the only one that I need. Secondly,
Speaker 1: again just say second to those who've indicated that I'm devastated,
Speaker 1: I'm very well. Thank you. She didn't say that he
Speaker 1: is the unequivocal positive father of this child. Didn't say it.
Speaker 1: It would be awkward to say that. I get it,
Speaker 1: but let's just move on. What she's saying obviously confirmed
Speaker 1: the fact that she and her husband were looking forward
Speaker 1: to this new chapter in their lives, and she thought
Speaker 1: that prove that she's got nothing to talk about when
Speaker 1: it comes to Brad Pitt and Angelina and Joe Lee's divorce.
Speaker 1: She even ended a statement wishing them the best. She said,
Speaker 1: I do very much wish that Angelina and Brad, both
Speaker 1: of whom I deeply respect, will find peace in this
Speaker 1: very tumultuous moment. She could have at that point said
Speaker 1: something girl to girl to Angelina, but again it would
Speaker 1: have been awkward. She didn't do it. Okay, now, she
Speaker 1: did her best to clear herself from the drama. But
Speaker 1: look when those two were breaking up, when that divorce
Speaker 1: talk came about, talk not talk. When that divorce talk
Speaker 1: came about, people had a lot of opinions about what's
Speaker 1: the reason, because him being allegedly drunk all the time
Speaker 1: didn't come out right away. And basically that whole thing
Speaker 1: with Marion Cotillard, some sources would say, is the final
Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back. With Brad and Angie's marriage,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, they wasn't married back, they
Speaker 1: were together. They got married in twenty fourteen, and you know,
Speaker 1: everybody looked at their romance. Forget about him leaving Jennifer Aniston,
Speaker 1: but we all thought it was a fairy tale, right,
Speaker 1: didn't We want them both to be together. We saw
Speaker 1: mister and missus Smith. Have you ever seen a couple
Speaker 1: heat up the screen more than those two? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: just so gorgeous heads. I fuck Angelina Jolie tails, I
Speaker 1: fucked Brad Pitt. Either way, you win. I don't win,
Speaker 1: but you girls win. Two years later, Angie filed for divorce.
Speaker 1: Irreconcilable differences didn't reveal any of the details, like I
Speaker 1: said right away, didn't we didn't know. Then it changed,
Speaker 1: then it changed. Then it's about abuse from Brad and
Speaker 1: the kids were abused and he was John blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But I'd love to know what you think. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: post Maryann Cootiard's daughter. I'm gonna post a picture of
Speaker 1: this kid who was born in twenty seventeen, okay, right
Speaker 1: after she and Brad filmed that movie, and we're reccused
Speaker 1: of having an affair. You tell me if this kid
Speaker 1: named Louise doesn't look so much like Shiloh, and I'll
Speaker 1: leave it at that. I need some water. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I talk so loud when I'm
Speaker 1: on the mic with you guys. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I do that. Okay, some podcasts I hear perfectly. Jay
Speaker 1: Moore's podcast. I love j Moore. I love moore Stories.
Speaker 1: He always has comics on the mics are so low.
Speaker 1: I want to strangle his audio guy. I need to
Speaker 1: amend some of what I said about Virginia Geoffrey and
Speaker 1: her time spent with Jeffrey Epstein. We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: I hold it. I shouldn't say time spent. That sounds
Speaker 1: like she had a vacation. Obviously, you know it was
Speaker 1: not a vacation. But I know, I said that she
Speaker 1: could have left, or she could have stopped doing what
Speaker 1: she was doing, or she could have stopped accepting the
Speaker 1: money he was giving her. And some of you wrote
Speaker 1: me on the Patren page and other areas saying, a
Speaker 1: j you know, it's not as easy as that. It's
Speaker 1: not as cut and dry. Blah blah blah. I get it,
Speaker 1: I really get it. But you know what, she could
Speaker 1: have stopped speaking to Glene Maxwell, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And now comes some excerpts from her new book called
Speaker 1: Nobody's Girl, which comes out any day. Now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read an excerpt to you about the hell she was
Speaker 1: put through. And by the way, this is coming at
Speaker 1: the same time that the mansion that Jeffrey Epstein lived
Speaker 1: in off Central Park was renovated like crazy, over a
Speaker 1: million dollars in renovations for its new owners. Some money
Speaker 1: guy on Wall Street, some hedge fun prick, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: The price was eighty million. They went down to fifty
Speaker 1: mail and he scooped it up. What a bargain. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you can live there with the ghosts
Speaker 1: in those rooms. But whatever they knocked down walls, but
Speaker 1: some of the rooms where the hell took place still exists.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, God bless the person who
Speaker 1: wants to live there. Can you imagine? Let me just
Speaker 1: let me put this to you in terms that I can't.
Speaker 1: I've been reading about the house and it changed hands
Speaker 1: a few times. It was originally bought or constructed by
Speaker 1: an old, very wealthy man who I forgot what line
Speaker 1: of work he was in, but major money. Was it
Speaker 1: a supermarket change something? And he gets this big old
Speaker 1: mansion on the Upper east Side. Could you imagine how
Speaker 1: much money you have to have to buy this place
Speaker 1: for twenty million bucks just to store your pick Coasto paintings. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's buddy, the old man Les Wexner, the man
Speaker 1: who ran l Brands, which includes Victoria's Secrets, among other things,
Speaker 1: bought this place for millions of dollars just to put
Speaker 1: his Picasso paintings and other art he had in the home.
Speaker 1: And he never once slept there. Do you understand the
Speaker 1: kind of money some people have that's not fuck you money?
Speaker 1: That's fuck me money. Then he sells the house to
Speaker 1: Epstein years later for twenty million bucks. And that's where
Speaker 1: Virginia Tifrey and other girls met the devil. And in
Speaker 1: the excerpt from her book, she describes being chained up,
Speaker 1: fitted with a collar, and beaten in these rooms or
Speaker 1: the main room until she passed out. You know, it's
Speaker 1: god horrifying to just even try to imagine what that
Speaker 1: was like. Epstein had, you know, countless women there, and
Speaker 1: also you know, entertained heads of state, journalists, academics, tech billionaires,
Speaker 1: captains of industry for over twenty years. And he had
Speaker 1: a bedroom, his master bedroom complex. You know, it was
Speaker 1: like they say, one third of the whole third floor.
Speaker 1: Our corner of the third floor was the master bedroom, bathroom,
Speaker 1: whole situation. And either way, she called this area the dungeon,
Speaker 1: and that's why she said Epstein raped her from two
Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand and two when she was still
Speaker 1: a teenager. She described the room as gloomy, black marble
Speaker 1: alcohol in Epstein's House of Horrors, which was filled with
Speaker 1: Garis decor, and she thought was intended to intimidate and disturb.
Speaker 1: Here's the the description. It's terrifying black lacquered cabinetry, blood
Speaker 1: red carpets, a huge taxidermy tiger, and a custom made
Speaker 1: chest set whose pieces were scantily clad women, And she
Speaker 1: was forced to sleep under a tapestry that featured wild
Speaker 1: boars devouring dead animals while screaming children watched on in horror.
Speaker 1: Where do you even get that? The room had an
Speaker 1: intercom that Epstein would use to summon her for sex.
Speaker 1: Rich guys have intercoms. I lived with Robert Evans, he
Speaker 1: had one too. I've been other people's homes. They have intercoms.
Speaker 1: The house yourself fucking big. You need to lift the
Speaker 1: com This is before cell phones. Where now Rocco is
Speaker 1: literally twenty five feet away from me, and I'll text
Speaker 1: them put on the Laker game. Blah blah blah, it's
Speaker 1: on it. You know, it's easier than yelling. But yeah,
Speaker 1: intercoms were a big thing before cell phones. Every room,
Speaker 1: she said, was rid with cameras that he used to
Speaker 1: use to monitor his guests and victims alike. And she
Speaker 1: writes to me though. The house's most unsettling design detail
Speaker 1: was a hidden back staircase whose banister was adorned with
Speaker 1: a series of carved eyeballs that stared at you as
Speaker 1: you grip them, climbing up or down. The message was clear,
Speaker 1: We're always watching you h And the dungeon was obviously
Speaker 1: where she described the worst depravity. These assaults, what Epstein
Speaker 1: called sessions, began with her massaging him, pinching his nipples,
Speaker 1: sucking his toes, and it ended with sex. But then
Speaker 1: one day it became much more torturous. She writes, he'd
Speaker 1: begun to experiment with win and restraints and other instruments
Speaker 1: of torture. In session after session, he would play out
Speaker 1: various fantasies with me as the victim. I was gagged, hogtied.
Speaker 1: Epstein liked to put a black leather metal studded color
Speaker 1: around my neck that continued down my spine, where it
Speaker 1: attached to a chain that down my hands and feet
Speaker 1: tightly together. The backbreaking contortion is This contraption forced upon
Speaker 1: me caused me so much pain that I prayed I
Speaker 1: would black out. When I did, I'd awaken to more abuse. Jesus,
Speaker 1: if this is true, and I don't know why she'd lie,
Speaker 1: well I know why she'd lie, but either way this
Speaker 1: is I can't but what I said yesterday, I wasn't
Speaker 1: really picturing this kind of morbid shit. I foolishly thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy wasn't having sex and like younger
Speaker 1: girls and all sorts of silly kinks for old man,
Speaker 1: like having his nipples pinch and his toes sucked, which
Speaker 1: is not on my menu. But you know, sex is
Speaker 1: sex for all different people. You do what you do,
Speaker 1: you like what you like. I watch videos where I
Speaker 1: see these soy boy men. These I know they're liberal,
Speaker 1: I know they are, and their beautiful sexy wives are
Speaker 1: talking on Instagram or on podcasts saying he likes when
Speaker 1: I bring a man home. He gets off on watching
Speaker 1: a man have sex with me. And I look at
Speaker 1: him while I'm in the throes of ecstasy, and I
Speaker 1: know he's so happy. He's not happy. He wishes he
Speaker 1: could throw you a fuck like that guy's doing. He can't.
Speaker 1: I can't take this world. I really can't take it.
Speaker 1: The whole level of craziness. I can't even imagine. My
Speaker 1: heart goes out to Vejinga Giffrey and other women who
Speaker 1: went through this, or other girls who went through this shit.
Speaker 1: But girls nowadays are insane again. I don't want to
Speaker 1: make this. I'm not blaming her, but how sex has
Speaker 1: pervaded women now with OnlyFans, especially Instagram that is showing
Speaker 1: semi nudity. Girls is saying things on Instagram, showing their
Speaker 1: bodies in certain way the drive men crazy. But then
Speaker 1: you go to OnlyFans and you see what, Look, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I'm gonna be really honest, and
Speaker 1: this might get some of you like, hey, j well,
Speaker 1: look at what can I tell you. I'm on Instagram.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of pretty women in my algorithm, and sometimes
Speaker 1: they reach out to you, Hey, high, handsome, that kind
Speaker 1: of shit, and you know it's bullshit. But sometimes you go, hey, hi,
Speaker 1: how are you you? Just because you're bored, you're laying
Speaker 1: on your back in bed TV stocks, Hey how are you? Hi?
Speaker 1: I really like your page? Whatever the fuck they say,
Speaker 1: And it always not always, but it eventually comes down
Speaker 1: to the girl wants you to help her with her
Speaker 1: OnlyFans page, shooting content for her. I said, first of all,
Speaker 1: I've never had this proposition to me. How old are you?
Speaker 1: Twenty one? I said, I got a daughter who was
Speaker 1: twenty one. This is not something I'd ever do. Why
Speaker 1: you got to be careful. Well, I'm a nursing student
Speaker 1: in LA and I'm trying to make money as a
Speaker 1: typical SOB story, and you let them talk because i'm
Speaker 1: you know, oh really, Well, you live downtown by USC
Speaker 1: theyn't answer, because there's probably some fat fucking guy in
Speaker 1: some room with six other sweaty dudes. Make him believe
Speaker 1: that that girl, but I like to see where it goes.
Speaker 1: That's the reporter of me. So you live downtown by USC,
Speaker 1: no answer. I really like to have someone help me
Speaker 1: out with my only fans and collab with me. The
Speaker 1: new word collab, I said, Honey, I'm too old and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know what to do. I'm not into,
Speaker 1: you know, watching a young twenty one year old girl
Speaker 1: get half naked. This is ridiculous. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm flattered that you asked me, knowing that it's
Speaker 1: all bullshit. I just want to say that, Well, if
Speaker 1: you go to my only Fans page, it's not expensive.
Speaker 1: They just want you, they want us. This is what
Speaker 1: some girls are like right now. It's crazy, and then
Speaker 1: you block them and it's over and you go. But
Speaker 1: you learn a lesson, like well, I can't believe this
Speaker 1: is going on. This is what I call the work
Speaker 1: I do for my son. I'm getting ahead of the
Speaker 1: curve for him, like, hey, bro, this is what's out there.
Speaker 1: And I've told him, I'm like, look at this. Check
Speaker 1: do you believe to Dad? I know, I believe me.
Speaker 1: I go to high school. I know what girls alike.
Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you I'm doing surveillance ahead of time.
Speaker 1: This is what you're going to walk into. Unbelievable either way.
Speaker 1: I don't want to shit on young women, but there
Speaker 1: are opportunities now that pertain to sexuality that women didn't
Speaker 1: have many years ago. Just think about it. We used
Speaker 1: to know, I don't know, twenty fifteen porn stars back
Speaker 1: in the day. I use the word star because they
Speaker 1: were porn stars. Seika Nylon Chambers, Barbara Dad, Christy Canyon.
Speaker 1: There was so many of them. Vanessa del Rio, all
Speaker 1: of us guys laid down on our back with one
Speaker 1: hand and made ourselves happy to their images. Now it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're an adult actress. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: because America's got millions of young women who are just
Speaker 1: as sexy, if not sexier, and they're getting laid on
Speaker 1: their only Fans page and they're like, they're literally the
Speaker 1: girl next door. We don't need to see you at
Speaker 1: your makeup and the camera crew. That doesn't matter. Let's
Speaker 1: just get the girl lives around the corner who's letting
Speaker 1: the guy bang her from the back while she films it.
Speaker 1: That is like real voyeuristic crazy shit that men were
Speaker 1: never able to see, and now it's everywhere. And that's
Speaker 1: what these women nowadays are looking to do, and they're
Speaker 1: making a lot of money. It's just crazy. I know
Speaker 1: we lament the fact that AI is going to take
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs away, but if you were an
Speaker 1: adult film actress and all of a sudden tens of
Speaker 1: thousands of regular chicks come out of the woodwork to
Speaker 1: take your job, oh my god. Either way, let me
Speaker 1: get back to Virginia's your frame in this book. I
Speaker 1: don't believe she says anything about the fat dad. And
Speaker 1: this takes some of what I said yesterday into account.
Speaker 1: I don't think you know. Look, this chick would go
Speaker 1: home to her parents for months on end, and then
Speaker 1: she'd go back to Epstein's house of harras whenever he
Speaker 1: called her, and he called her over and over. She
Speaker 1: wasn't living with him. It's important you know that she
Speaker 1: was living with her parents, obviously because she was underage.
Speaker 1: But he would call her and if she wanted to
Speaker 1: come and go with him, she would. Something is very
Speaker 1: steep about this story. Something is very stinky about the book.
Speaker 1: And I know it's not politically correct to say this,
Speaker 1: but why did she keep going back? It could have
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been just about the money. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: One of my patrons sent me a text about this
Speaker 1: and let me see where is it. Well, here it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who it is, but she's
Speaker 1: a great patron for a long time. AJ My sister
Speaker 1: was five years older than me and we so were
Speaker 1: her boyfriends. I remember smelling Aramis cologne for the first time,
Speaker 1: getting turned on. Blah blah blah. Okay because I talked
Speaker 1: about cologne yesterday. Okay. Recently I attended a lecture of
Speaker 1: five survivors of sex trafficking. They all talked about the
Speaker 1: grooming process and how for each one of them it
Speaker 1: was different. The book I read told about one fourteen
Speaker 1: year old girl and how the son of their neighbor
Speaker 1: coorded her for his father slowly, and finally they got
Speaker 1: her to stay longer in parties, leading to five older
Speaker 1: men that she trusted who drugged and raped her and
Speaker 1: dideotaped it and blackmailed her into more. It all led
Speaker 1: down a very dark path of shame and control. I
Speaker 1: truly didn't understand this horror that too many girls get
Speaker 1: caught up in, and I thought, like you couldn't they
Speaker 1: just walk away? Until I read a book Pearl at
Speaker 1: the Mailbox. Haven't read that, but I'll look into it.
Speaker 1: Pearl being the woman that recognized a frightened sex worker
Speaker 1: dropping off mail that was the only privilege this girl
Speaker 1: was allowed, and she offered to hide this girl away
Speaker 1: when she was ready. And eventually this girl was ready,
Speaker 1: and this woman saved her. A great story. Did Virginia
Speaker 1: Giuffrey need a woman like Pearl to come to the door.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't like it. She kept
Speaker 1: going back because she wasn't held captive at she as
Speaker 1: she has asserted in the past. And listen, I think
Speaker 1: the press is knowingly turning a blind eye to the
Speaker 1: fact that she was a happy and willing participant. I
Speaker 1: know that those terms are not going to land nicely
Speaker 1: on a lot of you. Let's just say she was
Speaker 1: a participant, and probably, if you know anything about Epstein
Speaker 1: and Maxwell, probably she recruited more girls for them too,
Speaker 1: up until the point that you know, Epstein decided to
Speaker 1: knock her out of his rotation, took her off the
Speaker 1: gravy train. And then what do you do? You play
Speaker 1: victim to get some money. I know it's cold and
Speaker 1: callous to say it that way, but things go that
Speaker 1: way sometimes. And by the way, Virginia Tifray's sister or
Speaker 1: brother and sister in law, you see them crying. They're
Speaker 1: all upset, saying they believe her story. Okay, where were
Speaker 1: they when this was happening? Where were her pairs parents?
Speaker 1: All about it? I finally saw a photo of Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk's parents. Where the hell were they when they're Charlie
Speaker 1: kirk memorial slash fundraising events, slash pyrotechnics at Stravaganza was
Speaker 1: going on. That's for a different show, But these people,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, are shedding crocodile tears because where were
Speaker 1: they when this seventeen year old girl, daughter, sister, sister
Speaker 1: in law, what have you? Was traveling a lover the
Speaker 1: world with a known pervert. Girls with normal lives and
Speaker 1: normal families don't do that. They normally don't fall into
Speaker 1: these traps. The parent of a girl who does this
Speaker 1: would try to get her out of this situation. They'd
Speaker 1: fight tooth and nail. And by the way, while I'm
Speaker 1: at it, think about this. I've been a turm this
Speaker 1: for over thirty years. But just you don't have to
Speaker 1: be a journalist to think about this. Where are the
Speaker 1: other collaborations? Where are the other stories from the other victims?
Speaker 1: You don't have to use your names. Girls, just say
Speaker 1: what happened to you? I don't read any of them.
Speaker 1: If there were thousands of victims, as we're being told,
Speaker 1: where are their stories? You're telling me? Well, Harvey Weinstein
Speaker 1: was up against the wall. How many girls came out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork? And who's coming out of the woodwork
Speaker 1: for one of the most disgusting, vile assholes in the world.
Speaker 1: Just Virginia Jifray. This isn't going away because the public
Speaker 1: knows we're not near the truth yet, that's the main thing.
Speaker 1: We're not near the truth. And now comes word from
Speaker 1: the woman who was Virginia Giffrey Ghostwrider she says she
Speaker 1: knows who's on Epstein's list. Oh my god, that is
Speaker 1: a big statement. Let me say this, and this is
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna get into some things, and the show's
Speaker 1: gonna run long, but fuck it, it's important and I
Speaker 1: want you to know I think. Let me say this.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I'm from the old school of reporting.
Speaker 1: I learned from the old guard I learned from Pete
Speaker 1: Hamil and Jimmy Bresley. You know, I've told you two
Speaker 1: of the greatest reporters who ever lived. And I was
Speaker 1: lucky enough to work with my heroes during my days
Speaker 1: in the newspaper world. I mean, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why those men were so great at what they did
Speaker 1: and the reason for boys like me to grow up
Speaker 1: and want to sound just like them while we deliver
Speaker 1: the newspapers. What they're names in there, with their bylines
Speaker 1: there and sometimes their photos, it's because they attack stories
Speaker 1: from different angles. And yeah, I'm using the word attacked
Speaker 1: because that's what you have to do. Whenever you're approaching
Speaker 1: a particularly juicy story. You need to know that the
Speaker 1: story can turn around and eat you up if you
Speaker 1: come at it from the wrong angle and That's what
Speaker 1: too many reporters do nowadays. When they're not reporting, when
Speaker 1: they're not doing their jobs, they eventually go out a
Speaker 1: story and it's from the wrong angle, or they're being
Speaker 1: told to go at it from the angle their editor
Speaker 1: or publisher wants them to go on. And worse, they're
Speaker 1: going at the angle that they think they're fans and
Speaker 1: and and their political colleagues want them to go at
Speaker 1: it from. That's not the way you work as a reporter.
Speaker 1: Covering a big, juicy story is like walking into the
Speaker 1: ocean and and and and be mindful of the currents.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some good shit. Write this down
Speaker 1: because no one gives you shit like I do. No one.
Speaker 1: And I'm still arguing of people have seven dollars a month,
Speaker 1: fucking twenty two cents a day. Don't get me started.
Speaker 1: Me mohile assholes again, eight fucking figures to talk nonsense
Speaker 1: about what guys they fucked. I can't take it. Fucking
Speaker 1: world's upside down. It really is, though, guys, It really
Speaker 1: is like walking into the ocean and you think you're
Speaker 1: fine because you know how deep the ocean is. Oh,
Speaker 1: you get it. You're on the beach. I know, I
Speaker 1: can see my feet, I can see the bottom, and
Speaker 1: then a wave hits. In other words, waves come at
Speaker 1: you like facts do in a conversation or when you're
Speaker 1: going after a story, and depending upon what facts are
Speaker 1: coming at you, it's not unlike negotiating with the ocean.
Speaker 1: Stay with me. So you take a few steps further out.
Speaker 1: Now you're up to your waist. Now you're up to
Speaker 1: your chest, and before you know it, the ocean lifts
Speaker 1: you up and now you're paddling. It's all fun, your
Speaker 1: dog paddling. You're kind of flopping around the water. You
Speaker 1: know how to swim. What's there to worry about? But
Speaker 1: then you're introduced to things you didn't see coming waves,
Speaker 1: white caps, currants, maybe a shark. Maybe your foot touched
Speaker 1: the bottom and you felt something hard startles you. Where
Speaker 1: am I? Now? You're trying to survive in the story
Speaker 1: you thought you were gonna write. Because when you go
Speaker 1: to the ocean, you think I'm gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and swimmer, huntre your hearts come back and you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that, But the ocean tells you what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. And when you're chasing stories. Stories tell
Speaker 1: you how to go about it. You have to be accepting.
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to survive the story you thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna write, But you don't write the story.
Speaker 1: The story writes you. Oh my god, this is so deep.
Speaker 1: I hope you tape you and you got to keep this.
Speaker 1: It's too good. The point is this, Mike, if I die,
Speaker 1: make sure this this podcast is heard by everyone. It's
Speaker 1: too good. Here's the point. When you're in over your
Speaker 1: head and the currents have you at their mercy, you
Speaker 1: got to learn to relax and stay calm. It's the
Speaker 1: hardest thing in the world, but you have to do it.
Speaker 1: You got to keep your eye on the shoreline. The
Speaker 1: shoreline is the story. Do you understand, and just stay
Speaker 1: parallel to the story, and eventually those currents should bring
Speaker 1: you back to the beach. But while you're out there,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready. You got to be willing to
Speaker 1: change your approach for the story. AJ this sounds so confusing.
Speaker 1: What about who? What? Whent there? But yet who? What? When? Where? Why?
Speaker 1: Is very important? But sometimes things command you that you
Speaker 1: can't grasp. Like Jimmy Breslin, Oh my god, he went
Speaker 1: to file a column on President Kennedy's death. It's a
Speaker 1: great story. He and let's say, thousands of other reporters
Speaker 1: across the world covering this assassination. All those other reporters,
Speaker 1: you know, wrote the basic story about the assassination and
Speaker 1: how their country is in mourning, blah blah blah. Of course,
Speaker 1: naturally that is the story, just like it was with
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, except it's not the story. There's another Angleton
Speaker 1: story that'll make everybody sit up and read, Sit up
Speaker 1: and listen, sit up and admire. Jimmy Preslan and other
Speaker 1: great reporters like Pete Hamill learned to let the story
Speaker 1: write you. So what did Jimmy Preslan do? He drove
Speaker 1: to Arlington National Cemetery and talked up the man whose
Speaker 1: job at was to dig our beloved president's grave. How
Speaker 1: fucking genius is that no one thought of it? And
Speaker 1: he wrote this story and it changed the trajectory of
Speaker 1: his career because, like I said, thousands of reporters were
Speaker 1: in Washington, d c. For this funeral, and Presla knew
Speaker 1: he couldn't perform the simplest act of this very simple
Speaker 1: business of reporting if it had to do with these
Speaker 1: you know, this crowded circumstances of it all. So he
Speaker 1: went into the White House library lobby and he just
Speaker 1: began to think about the cemetery and he said to
Speaker 1: a colleague, I'm gonna go over to the cemetery and
Speaker 1: get the grave digger. He thought it was a great idea,
Speaker 1: and the rest of the press corps covered the whole elaborate,
Speaker 1: somber choreography of the funeral. Jimmy Bresler is talking to
Speaker 1: the guy who dug Kennedy's grave. He's all alone. I
Speaker 1: used to work with another great, my favorite sports writer,
Speaker 1: Mike Lupika, who not only did I share a building
Speaker 1: with him, but they came a day where my column
Speaker 1: toward the front of the paper, let's say, page seven
Speaker 1: and bre and Lupig's sports column, which is probably at
Speaker 1: the end of the paper in the sports section, we
Speaker 1: were on the same truck, which means the page that's printed,
Speaker 1: whether it's page five and in other words, it's one page, right,
Speaker 1: whatever's on page five, you also have page fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Let's say they're the same, and that runs through the
Speaker 1: printing press. And the day that my column and his
Speaker 1: column were on the same truck. Oh my god, I said,
Speaker 1: I fucking made it. I made it. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike Lupika. So Lupiga was a hero, might
Speaker 1: as well work with him too, And Lupiga said that
Speaker 1: Jimmy gave a lot of credit to this story. To
Speaker 1: another old man do I work with At New York News,
Speaker 1: they named Murray Kempton, phenomenal columnist. I worked with him
Speaker 1: when he was very old. But my god, was he
Speaker 1: great Murray. And the thing that Murray, Murray Kempton said
Speaker 1: was brilliant because back in the old days nineteen fifty six,
Speaker 1: the Yankees Don Larson pitched a perfect game in the
Speaker 1: World Series. Right, that means no hits, no walks, no errors.
Speaker 1: It's very very uncommon. He does this in the World
Speaker 1: Series against the pitcher named sal Madley, who was very good.
Speaker 1: And Murray Kempton had the foresight to say, yeah, lost
Speaker 1: and pitched a great game, But could you imagine being
Speaker 1: Sal Madley guy pitched a game of his life and
Speaker 1: lost two to nothing. And that whole kind of pivot
Speaker 1: in the world of journalism changed journalism. And it's something
Speaker 1: I learned to do when I was a young sports
Speaker 1: writer the technique of you know you're reporting on a
Speaker 1: big story, get the point of view of a minor player, right,
Speaker 1: somebody who's an unexpected participant. And now they teach this
Speaker 1: in journalism classes. You know, like I've said when I
Speaker 1: was a sports trener, go to the loser's locker room.
Speaker 1: That's where the stories are. The winners say the same shit.
Speaker 1: Every day. History is written by the winners. But let's
Speaker 1: talk to the losers. Heir's to the losers. Lift up
Speaker 1: the glasses, as Sinatra says. But people will always remember
Speaker 1: Jimmy Breslen's grave digger story. And the guy's name was Pollard,
Speaker 1: his last name was Pollard. He dug the grave for
Speaker 1: Kennedy at Arlington National Cemetery. And before that, Jimmy Presden
Speaker 1: did a great story about being in the room where
Speaker 1: John Kennedy's body is trying to be resuscitated, all those
Speaker 1: crazy panic minutes, a surgeon sodging the president's heart even
Speaker 1: though he's dead, and jack Yannass is standing there watching
Speaker 1: it all. Tremendous story. It's Thanksgiving time. What do you
Speaker 1: think Preslin does? He does this on Thanksgiving morning. He
Speaker 1: goes to the automat, which is a place in New
Speaker 1: York City where you put coins in a machine and
Speaker 1: you point to a sandwich that was already made, or
Speaker 1: a piece of apple pie. You hit the button and
Speaker 1: that would come down the chute. The food was already prepared.
Speaker 1: That was the automat. You bring it to a table
Speaker 1: and you eat. It's gone, but it was great. And
Speaker 1: you know, he goes to the automat and he writes,
Speaker 1: really what he's thinking, that the city is in mourning
Speaker 1: or the country is in mourning. But he never says that.
Speaker 1: He just describes the lonely heart sitting in that automat
Speaker 1: that day on Thanksgiving, and he says otherwise there was
Speaker 1: a vacant day in the automat, which was right. Yesterday
Speaker 1: was a day meant to be vacant. It just he
Speaker 1: drips gold when he writes. So that became the Grave
Speaker 1: Digger theory of journalism, and people follow it. Now. It's
Speaker 1: great love it. I'm not going to read the whole
Speaker 1: article of the Grave Digger, but I want to read
Speaker 1: you some paragraphs. So he wrote this kills me, He said,
Speaker 1: mister Pollard is forty two. He's a slim man with
Speaker 1: a mustache, who was born in Pittsburgh and served as
Speaker 1: a private in the three hundred and fifty second Engineers
Speaker 1: Battalion in Burma in World War Two. He's an equipment
Speaker 1: operator of grade ten, which means he gets three dollars
Speaker 1: and one cent an hour and one of the last
Speaker 1: to serve. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who was the thirty fifth
Speaker 1: president of the country, was a working man who earns
Speaker 1: three bucks and change an hour, and said it was
Speaker 1: an honor to give to dig the grave. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it sucker beautiful. And then the fact that he gets
Speaker 1: the exact amount of money the guy's making and what
Speaker 1: he did in World War Two, understanding what he did
Speaker 1: with his job was it's simple reporting. But it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: And then he says this, I can't. He's talking about
Speaker 1: Jackie Onassis. Everybody watched her while she walked. She is
Speaker 1: the mother of two fatherless children, and she was walking
Speaker 1: into the history of this country because she was showing
Speaker 1: everybody who felt old and helpless and without hope, that
Speaker 1: she had this terrible strength that everybody needed so badly.
Speaker 1: Even though they had killed her husband and his blood
Speaker 1: ran out to her lap when he died, she could
Speaker 1: walk through the streets and to his grave and help
Speaker 1: us all while she walked. There ain't no twenty dollars
Speaker 1: word in that paragraph. It's just ba ba ba ba bah.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful work. One more paragraph. Indulge me, and then
Speaker 1: I'll stop. The ceremonies began with jet planes roaring overhead
Speaker 1: and leaves falling from the sky. That image a the
Speaker 1: speed of a jet and the slow descent of a leaf.
Speaker 1: I can't On this hill behind the coffin, people prayed aloud.
Speaker 1: They were cameramen and writers and soldiers and secret service men,
Speaker 1: and they were saying prayers out loud and choking. I
Speaker 1: don't think you understand to end a sentence with choking.
Speaker 1: It makes you want to know more. It makes you look,
Speaker 1: It makes you see the scene in front of the grave.
Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson kept his head turned to his right. He
Speaker 1: is president and he had to remain composed. It was
Speaker 1: better that he did not look at the casket and
Speaker 1: grave of John Fitzgerald Kennedy too often. Then it was over,
Speaker 1: and black limousines rushed under the cemetery trees and out
Speaker 1: onto the boulevard toward the White House. What time is it,
Speaker 1: a man standing on the hill was asked. He looked
Speaker 1: at his watch. Twenty minutes past three, and Clifton Pollard
Speaker 1: wasn't at the funeral. He was over behind the hill,
Speaker 1: digging grave at three bucks in one cent an hour
Speaker 1: in another section of the cemetery. He didn't know who
Speaker 1: the graves were for. He was just digging them and
Speaker 1: then covering them with boards. They'll be used, he told me,
Speaker 1: we just don't know. When I tried to see the grave,
Speaker 1: but it was so crowded, a soldier told me I
Speaker 1: couldn't get through. So I just stay here and work, sir,
Speaker 1: But I'll get over there a little bit later, just
Speaker 1: sort of look around and see how it is. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I told you, sir, it's an honor man man.
Speaker 1: I could cry. It was such a different time, different men,
Speaker 1: different manners, class, intelligence, style, diligence, and the stubbornness to
Speaker 1: stay real. There's very little of that nowadays. So whatever
Speaker 1: I can attack a story from a different angle, I
Speaker 1: do so because I think of what guys like Pete
Speaker 1: and Jimmy did. But this ghost writer, going back to
Speaker 1: the story, sorry, I took a large, huge twist and
Speaker 1: turning tangent. This ghost writer for Virginia Geufrey just foolishly
Speaker 1: told everyone that she knows who's on Epstein's list. She
Speaker 1: should have never said that, should have kept that a
Speaker 1: secret and maybe use it to advance her career dropping
Speaker 1: tidbits here and there. Fuck ghostwriting. If you got that information,
Speaker 1: write your own book. But now I fear the assholes
Speaker 1: who want to make a quick buck are gonna swarm her.
Speaker 1: And worse than that, how does she not realize that
Speaker 1: dropping that kind of information is so dangerous at this
Speaker 1: point in the world. You guys, Right now, the world
Speaker 1: is on boil. You have to leave the kitchen and
Speaker 1: come back. The water's coming over, the top of the
Speaker 1: pot is splashing on the range. And it's worse when
Speaker 1: it comes to the biggest story in the world, the
Speaker 1: Epstein List. It ain't going away. Millions of people seem
Speaker 1: to think if we only knew who was on his list,
Speaker 1: we somehow would all figure out a way to calm
Speaker 1: things down and go on and live our lives normally. No, no,
Speaker 1: trust me, the opposite is going to happen because the world,
Speaker 1: especially America and Washington, DC, would become a mighty churning
Speaker 1: dark ocean with twenty foot swells and currents that could
Speaker 1: spin a tug boat like a paper cup. And if
Speaker 1: this ghostwriter was smart, she would never have mentioned that
Speaker 1: because she could have attacked the story from a different angle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she could have kept her mouth shut, because in this
Speaker 1: day and age, information and data are king. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you right now, she better be ready to handle
Speaker 1: the perfect storm that's coming her way, because now the
Speaker 1: Epstein list isn't the story today. She made herself the story.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see Jimmy or jb One as
Speaker 1: he called himself, hunched over his typewriter punching out letters
Speaker 1: like a lightning and filing a story that will resound
Speaker 1: like thunder. That was gold. Not afraid to say it,
Speaker 1: I madej Benz and I was your daily Unfiltered podcast
Speaker 1: for October twenty third, twenty twenty five. File it away,
Speaker 1: it's too good. Talk to this tomorrow.