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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bravera and Jay Gonzalez. They have their Eye on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on Tucson Sports Dig Yeah. Fox Sports fourteenth

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<v Speaker 2>Wam, Hey, welcome back to I'm the Bahre Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay save us with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry this his.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye on the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Delaney Nell did not qualify for the ten meter platform

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<v Speaker 3>finals as she finished fifteenth out of eighteenth and only

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<v Speaker 3>the top twelve qualified for the finals, which are happening tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well you make it there, you make it first

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<v Speaker 2>year and you do really well and all that, and

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<v Speaker 2>four years later you're you're you're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean certainly they were higher hopes, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know I was disappointed for her, you know, to

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<v Speaker 5>see that. I got up this morning. Then I knew

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<v Speaker 5>that our friend Brian Peterson was going to be all

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<v Speaker 5>over that, and then he was and he was, but uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know it suh. Actually turned it turned on the

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<v Speaker 5>TV and the competition was just ending and they showed

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<v Speaker 5>the standings that I saw that she had finished or

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the session had just ended and saw that

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<v Speaker 5>she hadn't had not made it to the to the

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<v Speaker 5>next round.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's done. She's done.

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<v Speaker 5>So she's she's she's done, she's done competing. Sure, she's

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<v Speaker 5>going to come back. Not very happy with how things went,

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<v Speaker 5>especially when she medal last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Old Dominion announced they will be playing at Arizona in

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<v Speaker 3>the upcoming basketball season on November ninth, and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>first ever meeting between the schools.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I hadn't seen that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a nice game. It'll be a nice game.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm assuming that's here or okay, all right, November nine,

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<v Speaker 5>that's early, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably the first after the exhibition game. That's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the first game because that's the same weekend they

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<v Speaker 2>played Duke last year. You saw Duke Duke game. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean saw the date of that Dude game. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the day. I moved up a week day

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<v Speaker 2>before the good luck with that scheme. Well you are

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<v Speaker 2>you writing? Yes, I'm writing, Okay, Yeah, I go to

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<v Speaker 2>that at five in the morning, so I'll finished writing

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<v Speaker 2>and then head to the event.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah I did, I did see, Yeah, we did. We

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<v Speaker 5>did talk about that. Maybe you weren't here the day,

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<v Speaker 5>I bet you are, okay, So all right, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll let you slide on that. Then, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Simone Bios got the silver medal in the floor exercise finals.

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<v Speaker 5>That was earlier today today, So she got another medal.

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<v Speaker 5>How many is that for her?

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<v Speaker 2>I think three?

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<v Speaker 5>Three? Yeah, and then she's like one of the most

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<v Speaker 5>medals for any US gymnast ever. Right, you're not bad

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<v Speaker 5>for somebody who had, you know, with what happened to her,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, back in Tokyo and had to bail out

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<v Speaker 5>and and you know, kind of save herself. So good

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<v Speaker 5>for her. Still, you know, you still see that stuff

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<v Speaker 5>out there, people saying, oh, she gave up on her

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<v Speaker 5>country last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, who are these people?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know what, they're the same people that after

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<v Speaker 5>all was said and done, that thing with the two

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<v Speaker 5>with the boxer, Right, that turns out there's nothing weird

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<v Speaker 5>about she was born a woman. She's been a woman

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<v Speaker 5>all her life. She's just you know, as somebody put it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there are people who when they're born, they're

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<v Speaker 5>not predisposed, but they're born a certain way to like

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<v Speaker 5>a tiger Woods, he was born to be a golfer.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there's pictures in the major leagues. They were

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<v Speaker 5>born with the physical capability to do that, and apparently

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<v Speaker 5>this woman was born with the physical capability to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to box and beat the stuff out of you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And even day before yesterday, all this it

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<v Speaker 5>was all disproven late in the week, and even still,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was actually yesterday, not yesterday, Saturday, our

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<v Speaker 5>Republican nominee for the presidency still came out and said

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<v Speaker 5>it was a man beating up a woman, even though

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<v Speaker 5>for two days they've been they've been telling everybody that

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<v Speaker 5>was not the case. You know, I know, we brought

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<v Speaker 5>it up and we were like, okay, what's happening, right,

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't know, nobody knew, and now you know, everybody's

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<v Speaker 5>come out and said, there's, you know, nothing nothing bad,

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<v Speaker 5>nothing wrong. This woman just happens to be really good

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<v Speaker 5>at what she does and she hit this other woman

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<v Speaker 5>and she thought, I don't want to do this, which

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we saw ROBERTA. Durant quit in a boxing match, right.

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<v Speaker 5>But yet there's still today people still saying that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that this was screwed up, and it just pisses me off.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't help it. I had to bring that up,

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<v Speaker 5>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Cox West lost three nothing today in the Little

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<v Speaker 3>League Softball World Series against Cranston, Rhode Island in a

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<v Speaker 3>second round game and will now attempt to win the

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<v Speaker 3>championship through the elimination bracket and their next game is

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow at four pm.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they won their first game and I think their pitcher,

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<v Speaker 5>what's her name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Boocomber.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, set a record for most strikeouts in the Little

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<v Speaker 5>League World Series game with fifteen. Now do the math,

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<v Speaker 5>all right? They play six innings, three outs an inning.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fifteen strike outside of the eighteen outs. That's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>Pattie McCumber, it's her name, so you know, good for them. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 5>getting just getting to the Little League World Series is

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<v Speaker 5>the coolest thing. So good for them, and hope they

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<v Speaker 5>hang around for a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Kristen Faulkner became the first American in forty years to

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<v Speaker 3>win the gold in the Women's Road Race in cycling

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<v Speaker 3>after not even supposed to be on the team before

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<v Speaker 3>a teammate resigned.

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<v Speaker 2>She just picked up Slufe Cycling six years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow. See so I can, I can. I'll do a

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<v Speaker 5>tour if I pick it up like a month ahead

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<v Speaker 5>of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, then move on, move on. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them no way. This is my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The USA is in first place with seventy eight total medals,

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<v Speaker 3>China is and second with fifty three in Frances and

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<v Speaker 3>third with forty seven.

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<v Speaker 5>And last time I know, I know about the metal

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<v Speaker 5>count today. Going into going into today, US and China

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<v Speaker 5>were tied with gold medals, right, and for for a

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<v Speaker 5>while the US was way behind.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw US as a twenty gold. Let me see

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<v Speaker 3>China's at twenty one.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well they were nineteen and nineteen going into today,

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<v Speaker 5>so okay, but you know, the US has had the

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<v Speaker 5>most medals but was way behind on gold medals, which

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<v Speaker 5>people were getting a little upset about.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, people who are these people? People?

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<v Speaker 5>People I read on social media?

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<v Speaker 2>So many people upset?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Well, they're like, oh, you know the men's

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<v Speaker 5>swimming team, you know they're US dominant, They're not this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you?

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<v Speaker 6>I know?

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<v Speaker 2>These a lot of these people that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But aren't there more important things in the world to

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<v Speaker 2>bitch about them?

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently not?

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<v Speaker 2>And then other people's problems apparently, Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chiefs have made Harrison Bucker the highest pig kicker NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>They should have.

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<v Speaker 5>They should have just fired him.

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<v Speaker 2>From what he said, Hey, falling down forward, Babe, falling

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<v Speaker 2>down forward. That's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have them on my team. I wouldn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>But if he was really good, if he's really good,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say, hey, can you cannot temper your thing?

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say, go find yourself another team. Steve, with what

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<v Speaker 5>he said, with what he said, he wouldn't be on

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<v Speaker 5>my team. I've got daughters. He's not on my team.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. So does those look cheap?

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<v Speaker 5>So he just yeah that, Well, that tells you what's

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I totally get it.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's not on my team. He said, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all Iky.

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<v Speaker 2>We took all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I want.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I brought up Michigan a little bit ago. Uh, when

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<v Speaker 5>we were talking about the rankings. There's a thing got

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<v Speaker 5>leaked on about Jim Harbaugh. I think I leaked about

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<v Speaker 5>the Michigan notice of allegation and they are that, Sharon,

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<v Speaker 5>what's his name, uh the new head coach, Sharon Moore

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<v Speaker 5>is in the in the in the draft of the

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<v Speaker 5>of the nose of allegation, his name is in there

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<v Speaker 5>saying because they were saying that there was a coach

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<v Speaker 5>that deleted fifty plus text messages with Connor Stallion's and

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<v Speaker 5>that was one of the violations that they were being

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<v Speaker 5>were being uh called on. Well, it turns out it

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<v Speaker 5>was Sharon Moore who was the one who deleted those

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<v Speaker 5>text messages. So now you have the defensive coordinator as

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<v Speaker 5>being the one that that has deleted the text and

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<v Speaker 5>that has led to that alleged violation. So now they're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about him possibly possibly being suspended, maybe even suspended

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<v Speaker 5>for and requiring a show cause for what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>So he'll get more punishment than Harbaugh will.

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<v Speaker 5>Right left right, And then speaking of your friend Jim Harbaugh,

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<v Speaker 5>he came out with a statement today. Let me let

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<v Speaker 5>me find it. His statement was no longer than college football,

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<v Speaker 5>never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with

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<v Speaker 5>that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson.

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<v Speaker 5>I've preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.

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<v Speaker 5>No one's perfect. If you stumble you apologize and you

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<v Speaker 5>make it right today. I do not apologize. I did

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<v Speaker 5>not participate, was not aware nor complicit in in those

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<v Speaker 5>said allegations. So for me, it's back to work and

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<v Speaker 5>attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to man.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me say this. They have they have all

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<v Speaker 2>these allegations in a number of ways. We've dealt with

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<v Speaker 2>it here. How much teeth or how many how many

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<v Speaker 2>teeth to the n C DOUA have left?

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<v Speaker 5>Not much? And that and that's you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 5>whole point. You know, we saw they well how many

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<v Speaker 5>games did did Harbor miss? Like six games last year?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they went fifteen to oh right, So what did

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<v Speaker 5>that matter? I mean, I mean, you know, okay, so

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<v Speaker 5>Jim Harbor, I had to watch the games at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows? And and and remember Tennessee for their violations,

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<v Speaker 5>got to find what six million dollars wrote the check and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then well you saw what I was in Kentucky right

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<v Speaker 2>in shops.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, you know, there's there's stuff that happened last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not going to be around much anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah longer.

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<v Speaker 2>had theirs. So you take away ten wins, ten games,

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole thing. Well Louisville did that with the

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<v Speaker 2>So Sean won a lot of games here, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, three hundred and some games. I think it

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<v Speaker 5>Even in the record, but for for for Tarzuski, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>So do they take away the wins for the kids?

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't didn't happen that that's gonna make my head spin.

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<v Speaker 5>That's going to happen, right right, I yeah, no, you're right,

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<v Speaker 5>But those didn't happen, right, I mean, like that, what

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<v Speaker 2>In the Oklahoma game, yeah, yeah, I hit the pay back. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't I don't know. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>that works. But uh, but they had a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>Or part of the record.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, So anyway, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>more to come on that. The thing is that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with this thing with Michigan, Okay, so they haven't they

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<v Speaker 5>haven't even been served with the notice of allegations yet.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just got the draft just got leaked. So they've

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<v Speaker 5>got when it when it ever gets served, when they

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<v Speaker 5>ever get served, they've got ninety days to appeal or

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<v Speaker 5>to come up with their response, which basically gets you

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jay, look at Arizona's back and forth took how

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<v Speaker 2>many years?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? So, and that was because that that other a

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<v Speaker 5>So this thing won't be done before the football season.

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<v Speaker 2>The new coach will be somewhere else with harbors and resistance.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, and if you're if you're Sharon Moore and

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden it looks like you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>right and be done with it, just like what just

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<v Speaker 5>like what Harba did. Yeah, So I don't know that

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<v Speaker 5>that there's really anything anybody can do.

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<v Speaker 2>So go and go back and see we only had

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<v Speaker 2>uh Mount Rushmore for Arizona basketball. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you did. Did. Oh you'all to find it,

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<v Speaker 5>because all right, I'll find it during the break. Anyways, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jake now in phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Longtime friend Bob that the management of the Arizona Republic

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona Central. Bob, how are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm well?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well. The last time we spoke to you, you

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<v Speaker 2>were the beat guy for the Cardinals. Are you still

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<v Speaker 2>the beat guy? Because I saw a Collin about you

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<v Speaker 2>not long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I am helping on the Cardinals, but now writing columns. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'll do some I'll do some Cardinals work as well,

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<v Speaker 4>but mostly Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me let me I read your column. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was maybe ten days ago, more than a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. You've done a lot, obviously, and the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that struck me in and the way you

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<v Speaker 2>the same issue here. You're not a fan. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>a fan. You write it that way, and sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>pisss off some of the people you write about. As

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<v Speaker 2>he talked about some of the confrontations right yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's been a few to a few thousand millions.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, does that?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that? How do you react to those? Because that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of means that you've done a good job and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe start the juices. But you're telling it like you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's happening or I don't know, explain please.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, And I didn't make my intentions completely

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<v Speaker 4>clear in that introductory column to let people know who

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen sports setters. But this man said, are you a

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<v Speaker 4>behind the stands until they let us come out and

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<v Speaker 4>not a fan anymore, I said, okay, because if you

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<v Speaker 4>going to do for us. You know you're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a fan. You have to be impartial. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you do that? I said, yes, sir, I can, and

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been a fan since, and it's been it's

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<v Speaker 4>to do that anymore. I haven't done it for forty

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<v Speaker 4>five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, Bob. Because people say, how could you

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<v Speaker 4>I'll root for players that I've covered, that i've that

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<v Speaker 4>I like, or that you know I have done something special,

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<v Speaker 4>usually privately. It won't show in my writing. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a columnist, But I don't think so. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they got to keep it. You got to keep it

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<v Speaker 4>the way it's supposed to be. And you know, rooting

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<v Speaker 4>for teams on air on TV and wearing jerseys or

427
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<v Speaker 4>T shirts of your team, and you're a reporter or

428
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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a journalist, that's not what journalists do.

429
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<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't be anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you're one hundred percent correct that. And Bob, look,

431
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<v Speaker 5>we you know I'm the fan in the room here

432
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<v Speaker 5>because that's what we do with that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up here in Tucson. I went to the

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<v Speaker 5>U of A. Suddenly I'm covering Arizona basketball and then

435
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<v Speaker 5>I'm covering Arizona football. And I do believe that I

436
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<v Speaker 5>was able to turn off the switch of being a

437
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<v Speaker 5>fan that during that time. But I'm not gonna lie that.

438
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<v Speaker 5>When I was covering Arizona the eighty eight basketball team,

439
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<v Speaker 5>they ended up going to the Final four. And remember

440
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<v Speaker 5>when they're playing North Carolina in the in the lad eight,

441
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<v Speaker 5>trying to get to the first Final four. I wasn't

442
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<v Speaker 5>cheering on press rod, but inside I'm going, I really

443
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<v Speaker 5>want you guys to win this game. But I really

444
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<v Speaker 5>want you to win for the purely selfish reasons that

445
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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to cover a Final four, right, I mean,

446
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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of how I took it. You know, same

447
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<v Speaker 5>thing with football, right, I wanted to cover a Rose Bowl. Now,

448
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<v Speaker 5>they weren't in a position you know, the years I

449
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<v Speaker 5>covered them to be good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that.

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<v Speaker 5>But winning, covering winning is more fun than covering losing,

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<v Speaker 5>which is.

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<v Speaker 4>Which stories were about really.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Well that's when you get well, you've covered a

455
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<v Speaker 2>few of them, covered them, So tell us how was

456
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<v Speaker 2>they gonna be this year?

457
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? What what are we looking at with this?

458
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<v Speaker 4>Who can get away from the bank?

459
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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you look like?

460
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<v Speaker 4>Amen, I'm sorry, repeat the question.

461
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<v Speaker 2>So what's so you covered a lot of bad teams?

462
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<v Speaker 2>How is it going to look like this year with

463
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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? I well, well, we'll have to see. I

465
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<v Speaker 4>wrote a story Sunday about what I think is a

466
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<v Speaker 4>realistic successful season should look like given everything that they've

467
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<v Speaker 4>got going on over there, and you know, if they

468
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<v Speaker 4>don't win seven games, it's a failure. If they win

469
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<v Speaker 4>eight or nine, it should be considered a success. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>If they if they happen to reach double digits, it

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<v Speaker 4>will be a huge success and a stepping stone into

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<v Speaker 4>becoming expected to be a contender, especially with the youngness

473
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<v Speaker 4>of this team. So we'll see. You know, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be gonna be at least seven wins, and it should

475
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<v Speaker 4>be more, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, I bet you you're googling over under no no.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mentioned the over under with them is six

478
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<v Speaker 4>and a half. I think they think they're much better

479
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<v Speaker 4>than that. So they need to act like that, you know,

480
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<v Speaker 4>and and and act when I mean act like when

481
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<v Speaker 4>you've got a hole, like, oh, you lose yours your

482
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<v Speaker 4>best outside linebacker, your best projected edge rusher, you better

483
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<v Speaker 4>replace them. Yeah, and you know, it's been what is

484
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<v Speaker 4>it three days since it happened? In four days and

485
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 4>they haven't done it yet. They've got two roster spots open.

486
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<v Speaker 4>It just makes me wonder do they do they think

487
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<v Speaker 4>they're really going to be a winner or not?

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<v Speaker 5>What is Jonathan Gannon from what you saw last year?

489
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<v Speaker 5>Is he the guy? I mean? Can he be the guy?

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<v Speaker 4>That's if I can explain that. I am all in

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<v Speaker 4>on Jonathan Mannon. He's a little weird, which is okay.

492
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<v Speaker 4>He's a little uh uh too energetic, which I like,

493
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<v Speaker 4>and but he tells, he lays it on the line.

494
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<v Speaker 4>He's got this good chemistry thing he's building here and

495
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<v Speaker 4>this new culture shift. But culture shift only goes as

496
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<v Speaker 4>far as you take your team to wins. So I

497
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<v Speaker 4>like what he's doing. I didn't even wait for you

498
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<v Speaker 4>to finish a question, so I'm sorry no time. I

499
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<v Speaker 4>just had to say that about Goofy Gannon. He's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it takes I mean it certainly takes a

501
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<v Speaker 5>certain kind of personality. Maybe is the right word to

502
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<v Speaker 5>coach in the coach for this franchise, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean that's a whole thing you could open

504
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<v Speaker 4>up and talk about, for it means many different things.

505
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<v Speaker 4>But you know, there's only one of thirty two jobs

506
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<v Speaker 4>in this league, and this particular job. A lot of

507
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<v Speaker 4>coaches haven't had too much success, and they usually get

508
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<v Speaker 4>three years and if they don't do it by a

509
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<v Speaker 4>year or three, they're gone. So you know he's under

510
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<v Speaker 4>some fire, but it's only a second year. If they

511
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<v Speaker 4>do what I think they can do and show steady improvement,

512
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<v Speaker 4>I think he's going to be fine. I think this

513
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<v Speaker 4>franchise will be on the mend. But it's got to

514
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<v Speaker 4>happen for me to really believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Along those lines of fire, the quarterback, I think when

516
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<v Speaker 2>we talked to you last year, maybe the year before,

517
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<v Speaker 2>you liked the guy. If I can recall, I like

518
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<v Speaker 2>you still like him. Okay, I was just gonna ask

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not so completely.

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<v Speaker 4>That he's going to be a guy who who tells

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<v Speaker 4>us all he wants to do is be the best

522
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<v Speaker 4>and win the super Bowl, because he's only as good

523
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<v Speaker 4>as the guys around him and the coaching he gets,

524
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<v Speaker 4>and how healthy he remains, and you know who they're

525
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<v Speaker 4>going up against and what those teams are doing. There's

526
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<v Speaker 4>so many things connected to it. I'd like him. I

527
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<v Speaker 4>believe in Kyler, but I'll need to see him do

528
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<v Speaker 4>Kyler things again and be better at it than he

529
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<v Speaker 4>had been when he went to the Pro Bowl too

530
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<v Speaker 4>straight years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So what about Marvin Harrison Junior? Is he the

532
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<v Speaker 5>real deal?

533
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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yes, yeah, there's no question about that. And I'll

534
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<v Speaker 4>have a column out tomorrow about about that and a

535
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<v Speaker 4>couple issues that I have potentially about what the Cardinals

536
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<v Speaker 4>are doing with him. You should check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we will definitely do that.

538
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<v Speaker 2>You've you've been in this business. I'm gonna go back

539
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<v Speaker 2>to your call him. I can't remember most of it now,

540
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<v Speaker 2>but you've had a great walk, You've you've had a

541
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<v Speaker 2>great life. I mean, come on, look at us. We're

542
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<v Speaker 2>in radio.

543
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<v Speaker 5>I ever worked a day in my life.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Right, we're radio now. We used to be newspaper guys.

545
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<v Speaker 2>What kind of pictures do you have of the bosses.

546
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<v Speaker 12>I see what you did that.

547
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<v Speaker 4>I started writing before there were cameras apparently, so no,

548
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<v Speaker 4>I have no no photos, no facts.

549
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<v Speaker 2>But you've you've you've covered a lot of great things.

550
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<v Speaker 2>I mean you were down here for a while too,

551
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<v Speaker 2>covering some teams.

552
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<v Speaker 4>I would the two soun a lot. Yeah, and I'm

553
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 4>a big fan and these as you people give you

554
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 4>guys a bad name, and I don't know why.

555
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<v Speaker 5>I love that. Well, we do the same to them.

556
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 5>So we're good.

557
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<v Speaker 4>Breakfast place I've ever been to. Some fun spring training

558
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<v Speaker 4>moments were yeah.

559
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<v Speaker 5>We're all okay with that because we do the same thing.

560
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<v Speaker 5>Oh hey, here's here's here's the little detail. You're watching

561
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<v Speaker 5>the Hall of Fame game, the kickoff thing. What do

562
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<v Speaker 5>you think of that?

563
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be interesting. Yeah, they're trying

564
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<v Speaker 4>to make it better than it was, and I appreciate

565
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 4>that because kicked off, we turns were a record low

566
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 4>twenty one percent, which is ridiculous. Everything else was touchbacks,

567
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, So we're going to bring some excitement back

568
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 4>to the game. It's going to open up a roster spot,

569
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<v Speaker 4>I think for player or players who can find a

570
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<v Speaker 4>niche in roll. Both on kick coverage and kick return teams,

571
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 4>special teams. Coaches are scratching their heads. It's just going

572
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 4>to be trial and error. But I think you're gonna

573
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<v Speaker 4>see some big, exciting place and if you don't, it

574
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<v Speaker 4>means they're just going to kick it into the end

575
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<v Speaker 4>zone and put the ball to you know, thirty.

576
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you must be in the business now, you started

577
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 2>seventeen maybe forty five years. Can you give me one

578
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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite stories or two?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, I think I mentioned in the in the column.

580
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 4>One was covering the ninety two Baseball Major League Baseball

581
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<v Speaker 4>All Star Game in San Diego the Old Murph and

582
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<v Speaker 4>then staying at this brand new Marriott Twin Tower place

583
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 4>they opened up at the time. And I think Griffy

584
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Junior won the home run Derby that year, if I'm

585
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 4>not mistaken. And I my pregnant wife at the time

586
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 4>was nine months with twins on the way, and she's

587
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 4>upstairs and I get back to the hotel. I went

588
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<v Speaker 4>into the bar to get like three bottles of bud

589
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<v Speaker 4>Light in a bucket of ice and bring it upstairs

590
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and calls her from the bar phone and said, honey,

591
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<v Speaker 4>do you need anything. I'm back I'm just grabbing some

592
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 4>beers and ice. I'll be right up. She goes, no, no, no,

593
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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine, take your time. And the bartender said, dude, don't,

594
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<v Speaker 4>don't go upstairs, and I'm like, why, he goes, look

595
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 4>at these four guys sitting here alone at the bar.

596
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 4>You're the only dude here besides me. And it was

597
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<v Speaker 4>Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Ernie Banks, and Mickey Mantle, the

598
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<v Speaker 4>four greatest living baseball legends at the time for certain, right,

599
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<v Speaker 4>And I didn't go up to the room for quite

600
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<v Speaker 4>a while, you know, I need to say. And I

601
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 4>just laughed a lot. I got ribbed in the elbow,

602
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 4>ribbed by Ted Williams every time they told a great

603
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 4>joke and I laughed, uh. And they bought my beers

604
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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't say a word to them, just sat

605
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 4>there silently, respectfully and listened like a good reporter should do.

606
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<v Speaker 4>And never wrote about it. Really, I mean, I wrote

607
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 4>about it since, but yeah, not not. Anything that was

608
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 4>said right over beer was just like the experience was

609
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<v Speaker 4>one of many, many, many that this career has given me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hope it gives me a lot more. And

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<v Speaker 4>I hope i'm worthy of it.

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<v Speaker 2>This question. Did she divorce you after this?

613
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<v Speaker 4>No, no she didn't.

614
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<v Speaker 5>But you bring up a good point because they say

615
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<v Speaker 5>you never wrote. You didn't write about it at the time.

616
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 5>You wrote about it later as part of telling stories.

617
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<v Speaker 4>As a Father's day column for my kids when they

618
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 4>you still let me do Colm the second of the day.

619
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<v Speaker 5>And that's the thing that people don't realize that we

620
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 5>saw things as reporters, that it wasn't always.

621
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<v Speaker 4>A story like trust me, it'll be in the fuck.

622
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<v Speaker 5>It didn't always have to be a story. It's it's

623
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 5>a memory and maybe you talk about it later, but

624
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<v Speaker 5>we saw things. It wasn't like today where everybody's got their.

625
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<v Speaker 4>Heaven. Yeah, but you didn't have it then. We didn't

626
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 4>have I don't even know if I had a cell

627
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 4>phone then a pager. I don't even remember. I don't

628
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<v Speaker 4>even know what those things were for, other than you know,

629
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<v Speaker 4>the wife lady saying, hey, it's trying to get home,

630
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<v Speaker 4>get get home right right.

631
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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it would have happened a long earlier

632
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<v Speaker 2>before with all the big names you know, yeah yeah, wow.

633
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<v Speaker 4>Well imagine if there was Twitter and Babe Bruce, time

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<v Speaker 4>probably wouldn't have been good.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it wouldn't you know. What would happen was there

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<v Speaker 5>would have been people in there with their cameras, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with their phones taking pictures of these guys sitting there

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<v Speaker 5>trying to have a beer, and you never would have

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<v Speaker 5>had that experience, right, you'd had right, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on that, But you know what, I know what

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<v Speaker 4>it's for. It it's a good tool. And I'm faithful

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<v Speaker 4>see on X, but I use it as a tool

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<v Speaker 4>for my job and it's a good way to spread

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<v Speaker 4>the word about just the stuff that I and my

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<v Speaker 4>colleagues do. And I think that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's sharing Who you sharing the beat with? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Tao Tao Mack. He came over from the d Backs.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a young young guy from Washington, DC area. He's

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<v Speaker 4>been on the d Backs with Nick Bacloro. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>go getter, he's a good to go to guy. You

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<v Speaker 4>guys need to get him on your show, will uh

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<v Speaker 4>and and he will. He will fill your radio hours.

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<v Speaker 4>He will take care of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, he'll talk about the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He is like, I'll be in a bullpen kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like a reliever. If things get really desperate and you

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<v Speaker 4>really need me, I'll come out for the ninth inning.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, we'll tell you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I have on't answer, but you can call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to us about the time you had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to have a beer with Dela Cruz with and some

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys you know back in the day, back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't remember those days at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, right, well, Bob, thanks so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck with your column stuff, and we'll be reading you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>have fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you guys having me on. Enjoy your day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bob's one of the good guys. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I remember from Bob to Moses, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>do this right, because we all have our quirks. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>have those two liter bottles of PEPSI, oh god, I

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<v Speaker 2>just take those everywhere. Dude. That was like diabetes on

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<v Speaker 2>his stick. How do I know because I used to

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<v Speaker 2>do that too.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god. All right, good, good conversation with Bob

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<v Speaker 5>mcmahonan from the Airshen Republic. All right, stick around. We

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<v Speaker 5>got a last segment five to zero four one six

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<v Speaker 5>seventy four forty would love to hear what's on your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera and jaygn Salez they have their eye on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on Tucson Sports stag Chef Fox Sports fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to tying the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta. Please Jaketsas got Henry

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<v Speaker 2>with us. You have a chance to review that.

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<v Speaker 5>That Mountain Rushmore basketball I did and your thoughts well.

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<v Speaker 5>John Wilner is a really good friend of mine, almost family. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're very close. As far as that goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear, I hear something coming on, but he is

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<v Speaker 2>full of it on this one.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, lily full of it. I think he missed

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<v Speaker 5>by a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Came out about two three weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It came out to twenty sixth two weeks about about

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<v Speaker 5>a week ago. The fifth Okay, yeah, maybe we can

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<v Speaker 5>have ten ds. Okay, he missed, give us the list. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously he did it. For all he did, for all

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<v Speaker 5>he did, for all packed all packed twelve teams. The

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<v Speaker 5>criteria was that it was only for a while, It

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<v Speaker 5>was only involving players who were in the conference. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, uh, you know, Eric Money from Arizona could

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<v Speaker 5>not be in the Conel Norman those guys, because they

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<v Speaker 5>were they were in the wack Bob Elliot, those guys

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<v Speaker 5>he selected. We selected four players, included the names of

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<v Speaker 5>five more who were considered. Performance in the NBA was

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<v Speaker 5>not part of the calculation, which is important. We did

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<v Speaker 5>not consider players who competed for Arizona, SU Colorado and

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<v Speaker 5>Utah before their schools joined the PAC twelve. Uh so

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<v Speaker 5>that was of the criteria. So obviously you pick a

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<v Speaker 5>coach is Ludelson, I mean, that's no rainer. Then for

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<v Speaker 5>for the players to me, two are legit obvious choices,

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<v Speaker 5>Sean Elliott and Damon Stotdman, Fine, no issue with that,

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<v Speaker 5>But then he picked Miles Simon, okay, and then he

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<v Speaker 5>picked Derek Williams, and I get if to me, it

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<v Speaker 5>seems like Derek Williams got picked using a criteria that

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<v Speaker 5>he says is not a criteria. That was the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that Derek Williams was a high first round draft pick. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Derek Williams had about eight good games year. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know he he went off in that in that

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<v Speaker 5>Duke game in the in the NCAA tournament. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he he you know, he had about eight good games.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry. There's about ten guys that I would put

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<v Speaker 5>ahead of Derek Williams, all right, all five of the guys,

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<v Speaker 5>All five of the guys that are and his also

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<v Speaker 5>considered list, who are Mike Bibbie, Jason Gardner, Steve Kirk,

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Mills, and Jason Terry. I put all five of

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<v Speaker 5>those guys they had at Derek Williams, I mean, not

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<v Speaker 5>even close. Then he mentioned some other guys that he

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<v Speaker 5>said didn't even make the also considered list. TJ McConnell,

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<v Speaker 5>Luke Walton, Michael Dickerson, Pete Williams. I put all those

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<v Speaker 5>guys ahead of Derek Williams. All right, Derek Williams had

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<v Speaker 5>that Duke game, then he had that block against Washington,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very good that year. But but I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that. I have an issue with

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<v Speaker 2>Miles too, and I have an issue with Miles Miles Miles,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he was the most MP, the most play.

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<v Speaker 2>Bibby was pretty good in that whole.

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<v Speaker 5>My five would be Elliott four for my four would

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<v Speaker 5>be Elliott, Scott, Omeyer, Bibby and Kerr again, Steve Kerr,

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<v Speaker 5>nothing happened. Nothing that's happened with Arizona basketball since then

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<v Speaker 5>happens without Steve Kurrishawn Elliott. He's on Mount Rushmore of

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<v Speaker 5>Arizona basketball. For what he for what he he did.

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<v Speaker 5>We've all said a million times. If Steve Kerr plays

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<v Speaker 5>in the eighty six eighty seven season, nothing happens. Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>basketball isn't what it is. They don't change, right, the

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<v Speaker 5>trajectory changes, they don't get to the eighty eight final four.

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<v Speaker 5>All of those things, all right, Steve Kurrz Steve Currs

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<v Speaker 5>like number two on the Mount Russian and after Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have a great college career, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>that significant.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredibly impactful college career at Arizona from the time he

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<v Speaker 5>came in as a freshman and he you know that

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<v Speaker 5>thing with it when his dad got assassinated, that brought

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<v Speaker 5>that put the whole community together together. You're following this

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<v Speaker 5>basketball team that was that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my here's my issue, and I covered it for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, written a number of books. Everybody knows

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<v Speaker 2>Shawn is easy, Sewan is right. Damon to me is

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<v Speaker 2>the number two. Number two play a bit whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh three, I don't even know. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>who's three. And I've covered them all. There's nobody on

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<v Speaker 2>the Seawn team teams. They were here too soon. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't last that long. Although my favorite is McConnell.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, he did say John did say no one had

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<v Speaker 5>Dune's were even considered, which is mostly who may have

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<v Speaker 5>been the best talent of all these guys, but he

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<v Speaker 5>was here for.

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<v Speaker 2>And even then I was questionable at times, right to

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<v Speaker 2>so McConnell to me would be him, He'd be the

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<v Speaker 2>best one of all of them, uh, since then two

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know really in the last year, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know. Number three the most underrated to me is

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<v Speaker 2>is Chris Mills of all of them, But then you

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<v Speaker 2>have you have Richard, you have you have Gilbert, you

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<v Speaker 2>have Jason Garden who has all the stats, right, played

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<v Speaker 2>all these games, score all these points. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but was Jason Gardner?

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<v Speaker 15>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>He was?

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<v Speaker 2>But Jason Terry, where do you put him in? And

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<v Speaker 2>then you got to include well, there was an NCAA violation,

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<v Speaker 2>not a little one, kind of a big one. So

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<v Speaker 2>you don't how do you And remember that Miles in

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<v Speaker 2>that year was academically ineligible. He didn't play that first

844
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<v Speaker 2>that first half of the year, right, and then he

845
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 2>stew the school. So there's a lot of little things, right,

846
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>So Miles wouldn't make it the prof He's not on

847
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>my list. So so there's my issue. I don't even

848
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>who's three or four in terms of players, because you

849
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>had Richard, No, I don't think so Gilbert, who's fantastic,

850
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 2>but no two years so there's a lot of caveat right, right.

851
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 5>And again Mike Baby was here two years. But but

852
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 5>but you and I agree that the more. The most

853
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 5>important guy on that national championship team was Mike Bibby,

854
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.159
<v Speaker 5>not Miles Simon. Correct, So that put question that for

855
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 5>me puts Bibby ahead of Myles Simon. I get it.

856
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 5>The Miles was here four years, but I'm putting Bibby

857
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 5>up there because of what he accomplished, you know here

858
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 5>in those two years. What was Derek coins here? Two years?

859
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Two years? Again?

860
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 15>If if you know, Derek Williams so far back on

861
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.079
<v Speaker 15>the list for me, and and I mean, look, he

862
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 15>well even even I know this, this might be a

863
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 15>little did he mention kid?

864
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>He was the basketball players? Kalid was fantastic. He played

865
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>four years and he was fantastic. Yeah, but he was

866
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of like under the Raider fantastic.

867
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 5>He's and Klid's also got the stigma of he could

868
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 5>have been so much better. Right, all right, let's take this, Hi,

869
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 5>you're on the Aaron I on the balls.

870
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got your four?

871
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 5>Ready?

872
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Go all right?

873
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 16>Kerr, Elliott Dotto Meyer and Chris Rogers. Every time I can,

874
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 16>anytime I could say bad things about.

875
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Will give me your fourth, the fourth, the fourth.

876
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 6>One serious fourth.

877
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 16>Honestly, I think he's he's I think we became the

878
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 16>Dallas Cowboys of Tucson with a son Adams in all. Honestly,

879
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 16>when it came to being on ESPN, all this nationwide

880
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 16>popularity with his dunks and stuff like, his impact financially,

881
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 16>I think was him and Iguadala that that was that

882
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 16>before and four B. When it comes to an impact,

883
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 16>that is not always saying where you stay more than

884
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 16>one year, even though they didn't really do much. I mean,

885
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 16>Essan didn't do much after after U of A. But

886
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 16>but that twenty twenty two thousand and two thousand teish

887
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 16>period of time was a pretty epic period.

888
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, that's that's an interesting one. Well, you know

889
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the guy that which is an interesting one because you

890
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Andre too. Luke Walton said that if Andre would

891
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>have stayed here for four years, he would have been

892
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the best player to ever play here. Of course he

893
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't blame and then his legacy ended. Beat with him

894
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 2>on the phone right before a game and they sucked. Yeah,

895
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 2>so you know, yeah, hard to say, but Hassan, that's

896
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 2>a strange one. Who is this? Have you called before?

897
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

898
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 16>I called before?

899
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? JR?

900
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, thanks?

901
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.519
<v Speaker 5>No good? Well look and those three, the first three

902
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 5>that you mentioned was you know, to me, those are

903
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 5>no brainers, right, And I don't know, we're not.

904
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 16>Talking about talent, you know, we're talking about impact and

905
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.239
<v Speaker 16>legacy that like I can see a statue with a

906
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 16>plaque saying why you know.

907
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But still, those guys were all talented. They were very talented.

908
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, yeah, I mean because because of all those, McConnell

909
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 16>is probably the least talented person I know, other than

910
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 16>Josh Passmer that ever played for the U of a

911
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 16>basketball wise brain, win is amazing, you know, at heart amazing.

912
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Till yeah, you know, and we'll see him in a

913
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. I'll see him. Pete Williams had it

914
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>not been for the Cornerstone to come here with Eddie

915
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Smith and those guys, because he had a huge impact.

916
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.719
<v Speaker 5>Right, And that's why I say all those guys are

917
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 5>ahead of Derek Williams.

918
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hey j R.

919
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 5>Thanks a whole bunch man. We appreciate it. Chris Rogers,

920
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 5>we love that.

921
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 4>Chris.

922
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You remember Chris. He he was kicked off the team.

923
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>He was he was they let him back in. He

924
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 2>was a little nutty. That was the end of Loot's time.

925
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.159
<v Speaker 2>That was kind of like the end of the beginning

926
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>of the end.

927
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 5>Chris was a little nutty. I just had he just yeah,

928
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean he was he was a character, but I

929
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 5>don't know, doesn't even make this list yet. Well again,

930
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 5>when you talk about legacy and and all that kind

931
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 5>of stuff, he was the grouchy probably the grouchiest player

932
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.519
<v Speaker 5>in kind of the you know, Malcolm, most malcontented player

933
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 5>of all the ones that we saw through.

934
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Those through those years are not named Rogers, not named Chris.

935
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 5>Rogers got another call, Hi, you're on the air and

936
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 5>eye of the ball.

937
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 6>Big guys one that never gets mentioned man like they

938
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 6>keep saying Damon but uh Salem.

939
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 5>But we were just talking about him, which his skills.

940
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Were just I mean, he was our.

941
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 6>What the name J Curryfore Curry was there like he

942
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 6>was shooting from the logo when Curry, he didn't nobody

943
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 6>did that right. He destroyed Kansas.

944
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the stuff that.

945
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 6>He did was just amazing. Let me ask you this,

946
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 6>though he could be there, he might be like one

947
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 6>of those cornerstone.

948
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, and I agree, is that from a talent standpoint,

949
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 5>and you know, he was the best shooter in the

950
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 5>in the n C Double A at that time. But

951
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 5>I feel like he left a bad taste in everybody's

952
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 5>mouth with his approach and his attitude and his surliness,

953
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 5>and that would keep him off of there. For me,

954
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:39.159
<v Speaker 5>what about you?

955
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, he was a jerk.

956
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 16>I used to ask my dad all the time. I'm like,

957
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 16>why does he keep playing him the kinds of jerk?

958
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 4>And He's like, watch.

959
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 16>Throw the ball in the b and You're like, who's

960
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 16>I guess what's your.

961
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 6>Why doesn't Luke bench him for that?

962
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 4>He was just three points? Three points?

963
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 6>Three points? Are like, well, yeah, I guess you can't

964
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 6>take that off the court.

965
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Well he did.

966
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 16>It's just one of those things that, like the talent,

967
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 16>if you're just talking about talent, that talent.

968
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, he did suspend him a few times because of

969
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that sort of list. I remember going to Milwaukee the

970
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>play Marquette. He had to sit down. And there was

971
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 2>another thing, do you remember you talked about Kansas And

972
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that was the Candy Gate where he came back and

973
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 2>did really well against them, the UCLA game when he

974
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 2>hit the shot. But he also in the game that

975
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you went to see at Anaheim, he was a no show.

976
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>He was physically he played, but he was a no

977
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>show because they roughed him up and they said, if

978
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>we get Salima out of this game, we got this game.

979
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 2>And you remember, if you see a stat line, he

980
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>was nowhere to be seen.

981
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, so you know, look, he's he's certainly worthy

982
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 5>of consideration. I guess I would have put him on

983
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 5>that list of also not also considered, but the next

984
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 5>tier of guys with you know, guys like TJ. McConnell,

985
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 5>Michael Dickerson, Pete Williams. But you know, to me, getting

986
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 5>on that mouse rushmore is more than just how good

987
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 5>were you? It was how good were you overall for

988
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the program and the team and the impact you had.

989
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, so appreciate it.

990
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying that, I'm just saying, yeah, overall talent,

991
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 6>the guy had incredible, incredible, but uh yeah, yeah, I

992
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't put him up there forever.

993
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, yeah, good call. Look what's your name, George?

994
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah you have Okay, got you you guys. Some

995
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 5>of you guys all sound the same and so we

996
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 5>have tough time with this. George, Thanks for colleague. I

997
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 5>appreciate it.

998
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Oh we got three minutes. We could come up

999
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 2>with a few more, Like I said, Chris Mills.

1000
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay to me. Here, here's here's one that you know,

1001
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 5>they only went. He was only in the league one year,

1002
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know what the craig in the in

1003
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 5>the PAC twelve, Pac ten one year he got they

1004
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 5>got into They got into the PAC ten his last year.

1005
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 5>Russell Brown Okay, again though, a guy Russell Brown who

1006
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 5>sort of started the whole you know, Arizona's uh point guard,

1007
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 5>you leg not legacy, but just sort of got the

1008
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 5>ball rolling for them in the PAC ten in that

1009
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 5>senior year. You know, eighteen assists in the game. He

1010
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 5>was a career assist leader at Arizona. I think still

1011
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 5>is you know, is he a guy that gets close

1012
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 5>to that, right, because he's a guy that nobody thinks.

1013
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Of, Well, look at that legacy that that time, right,

1014
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Russell Brown who did what he did, Al Fleming who

1015
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 2>did what he did.

1016
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 5>Fleming never was in the PAC ten. But okay, okay,

1017
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Larry Demick was, Joe Neil's was.

1018
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so those you're yeah, I'm talking about players just

1019
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>overall that were great. Oh yeah, the Russell Brown, Fleming,

1020
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Bob Elliott, right, they had some pretty good dudes. Well,

1021
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna pick an all time uh.

1022
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 5>D yah, if you're gonna pick an all time Mount Rushmore, Okay,

1023
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 5>you can't leave Bob Elliott off of that. I don't know.

1024
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know that you.

1025
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, the dude, somebody's got a bump

1026
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and Russell Brown pretty damn good.

1027
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so you got to bump.

1028
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>You haven't even talked about Herman Harrison and the other

1029
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 2>guy who Conelnil Norman. Right, that's a different that's a

1030
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 2>different mouth from rush bore right. But but in fact,

1031
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Javier just sent me and I agree with Javier Kerr

1032
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and the guys we talked about Kerr, Elliott, Sotimar Biby.

1033
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:18.159
<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's mine.

1034
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And let's remember one thing. Stardom Are lost three first

1035
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 2>round games, went to one final four. In fact, part

1036
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 2>of the book was what do you think your legacy is?

1037
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Since is I don't know. I don't know what my

1038
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 2>legacy is.

1039
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 5>I think there's people who don't think of him up

1040
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 5>there because of those first round losses. Yeah, I think

1041
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 5>when I think of David Stodomyer, I think of him

1042
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.159
<v Speaker 5>hitting that three pointer at the buzzer at halftime in

1043
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 5>the Final four against Arkansas. That's the vision I have.

1044
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I have him scoring forty four forty three against Stanford

1045
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>and Stanford when he had when he had no choice,

1046
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 2>but they'll score all round.

1047
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.159
<v Speaker 5>So that's my vision of him because we keep seeing

1048
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 5>that highlight, you know, on the on the big screen

1049
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 5>in Uh yeah, Michale. So when I think of and

1050
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 5>stoder Man, that's why I think of There are some

1051
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Speaker 5>times that I overlook him when I'm thinking a point

1052
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 5>guard you because I immediately go to Mike, Mike Bibby

1053
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 5>and Steve Hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think off Sato Maria. Now is the great guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are covered who we texted all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>now who doesn't return my takes want because we want

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<v Speaker 2>him on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>He's busy. We can get Josh Paster anytime, all right?

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<v Speaker 5>That was fun. Uh, I get Derek Williams. Look, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know the guy, so I don't know you, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying he doesn't be long. Yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>yaller at him. I'm definitely gonna yell at it. Okay, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>thanks for being here today. We'll be back tomorrow. Uh

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<v Speaker 5>talk some more football stuff and uh maybe even a

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<v Speaker 5>little basketball. All right, thanks for sticking around. We'll see tomorrow.
