Speaker 1: Steve Bravera and Jay Gonzalez. They have their Eye on
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Speaker 1: Eye on the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Delaney Nell did not qualify for the ten meter platform
Speaker 3: finals as she finished fifteenth out of eighteenth and only
Speaker 3: the top twelve qualified for the finals, which are happening tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, well you make it there, you make it first
Speaker 2: year and you do really well and all that, and
Speaker 2: four years later you're you're you're not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean certainly they were higher hopes, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know I was disappointed for her, you know, to
Speaker 5: see that. I got up this morning. Then I knew
Speaker 5: that our friend Brian Peterson was going to be all
Speaker 5: over that, and then he was and he was, but uh,
Speaker 5: you know it suh. Actually turned it turned on the
Speaker 5: TV and the competition was just ending and they showed
Speaker 5: the standings that I saw that she had finished or
Speaker 5: you know, the session had just ended and saw that
Speaker 5: she hadn't had not made it to the to the
Speaker 5: next round.
Speaker 2: And she's done. She's done.
Speaker 5: So she's she's she's done, she's done competing. Sure, she's
Speaker 5: going to come back. Not very happy with how things went,
Speaker 5: especially when she medal last time.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, all right.
Speaker 3: Old Dominion announced they will be playing at Arizona in
Speaker 3: the upcoming basketball season on November ninth, and it's the
Speaker 3: first ever meeting between the schools.
Speaker 5: Oh, I hadn't seen that.
Speaker 2: That's a nice game. It'll be a nice game.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming that's here or okay, all right, November nine,
Speaker 5: that's early, Steve.
Speaker 2: It was probably the first after the exhibition game. That's
Speaker 2: probably the first game because that's the same weekend they
Speaker 2: played Duke last year. You saw Duke Duke game. I
Speaker 2: mean saw the date of that Dude game. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: talked about the day. I moved up a week day
Speaker 2: before the good luck with that scheme. Well you are
Speaker 2: you writing? Yes, I'm writing, Okay, Yeah, I go to
Speaker 2: that at five in the morning, so I'll finished writing
Speaker 2: and then head to the event.
Speaker 5: Yeah I did, I did see, Yeah, we did. We
Speaker 5: did talk about that. Maybe you weren't here the day,
Speaker 5: I bet you are, okay, So all right, that's okay.
Speaker 5: I'll let you slide on that. Then, okay.
Speaker 3: Simone Bios got the silver medal in the floor exercise finals.
Speaker 5: That was earlier today today, So she got another medal.
Speaker 5: How many is that for her?
Speaker 2: I think three?
Speaker 5: Three? Yeah, and then she's like one of the most
Speaker 5: medals for any US gymnast ever. Right, you're not bad
Speaker 5: for somebody who had, you know, with what happened to her,
Speaker 5: you know, back in Tokyo and had to bail out
Speaker 5: and and you know, kind of save herself. So good
Speaker 5: for her. Still, you know, you still see that stuff
Speaker 5: out there, people saying, oh, she gave up on her
Speaker 5: country last time.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, who are these people?
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, they're the same people that after
Speaker 5: all was said and done, that thing with the two
Speaker 5: with the boxer, Right, that turns out there's nothing weird
Speaker 5: about she was born a woman. She's been a woman
Speaker 5: all her life. She's just you know, as somebody put it,
Speaker 5: you know, there are people who when they're born, they're
Speaker 5: not predisposed, but they're born a certain way to like
Speaker 5: a tiger Woods, he was born to be a golfer.
Speaker 5: You know, there's pictures in the major leagues. They were
Speaker 5: born with the physical capability to do that, and apparently
Speaker 5: this woman was born with the physical capability to be
Speaker 5: able to box and beat the stuff out of you,
Speaker 5: you know. And even day before yesterday, all this it
Speaker 5: was all disproven late in the week, and even still,
Speaker 5: I think it was actually yesterday, not yesterday, Saturday, our
Speaker 5: Republican nominee for the presidency still came out and said
Speaker 5: it was a man beating up a woman, even though
Speaker 5: for two days they've been they've been telling everybody that
Speaker 5: was not the case. You know, I know, we brought
Speaker 5: it up and we were like, okay, what's happening, right,
Speaker 5: we didn't know, nobody knew, and now you know, everybody's
Speaker 5: come out and said, there's, you know, nothing nothing bad,
Speaker 5: nothing wrong. This woman just happens to be really good
Speaker 5: at what she does and she hit this other woman
Speaker 5: and she thought, I don't want to do this, which
Speaker 5: you know, we saw ROBERTA. Durant quit in a boxing match, right.
Speaker 5: But yet there's still today people still saying that, you know,
Speaker 5: that this was screwed up, and it just pisses me off.
Speaker 5: I can't help it. I had to bring that up,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 3: Will Cox West lost three nothing today in the Little
Speaker 3: League Softball World Series against Cranston, Rhode Island in a
Speaker 3: second round game and will now attempt to win the
Speaker 3: championship through the elimination bracket and their next game is
Speaker 3: tomorrow at four pm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they won their first game and I think their pitcher,
Speaker 5: what's her name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boocomber.
Speaker 5: Yeah, set a record for most strikeouts in the Little
Speaker 5: League World Series game with fifteen. Now do the math,
Speaker 5: all right? They play six innings, three outs an inning.
Speaker 5: That's fifteen strike outside of the eighteen outs. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5: Pattie McCumber, it's her name, so you know, good for them. Hey, look,
Speaker 5: getting just getting to the Little League World Series is
Speaker 5: the coolest thing. So good for them, and hope they
Speaker 5: hang around for a little bit longer.
Speaker 3: Kristen Faulkner became the first American in forty years to
Speaker 3: win the gold in the Women's Road Race in cycling
Speaker 3: after not even supposed to be on the team before
Speaker 3: a teammate resigned.
Speaker 2: She just picked up Slufe Cycling six years ago.
Speaker 5: Wow. See so I can, I can. I'll do a
Speaker 5: tour if I pick it up like a month ahead
Speaker 5: of time.
Speaker 2: Right, then move on, move on. I don't want to
Speaker 2: tell them no way. This is my god.
Speaker 3: The USA is in first place with seventy eight total medals,
Speaker 3: China is and second with fifty three in Frances and
Speaker 3: third with forty seven.
Speaker 5: And last time I know, I know about the metal
Speaker 5: count today. Going into going into today, US and China
Speaker 5: were tied with gold medals, right, and for for a
Speaker 5: while the US was way behind.
Speaker 3: I saw US as a twenty gold. Let me see
Speaker 3: China's at twenty one.
Speaker 5: Okay, well they were nineteen and nineteen going into today,
Speaker 5: so okay, but you know, the US has had the
Speaker 5: most medals but was way behind on gold medals, which
Speaker 5: people were getting a little upset about.
Speaker 2: All right, people who are these people? People?
Speaker 5: People I read on social media?
Speaker 2: So many people upset?
Speaker 5: You know, Well, they're like, oh, you know the men's
Speaker 5: swimming team, you know they're US dominant, They're not this year?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 6: I know?
Speaker 2: These a lot of these people that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: But aren't there more important things in the world to
Speaker 2: bitch about them?
Speaker 5: Apparently not?
Speaker 2: And then other people's problems apparently, Holy crap.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have made Harrison Bucker the highest pig kicker NFL.
Speaker 2: They should have.
Speaker 5: They should have just fired him.
Speaker 2: From what he said, Hey, falling down forward, Babe, falling
Speaker 2: down forward. That's cool.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have them on my team. I wouldn't. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have on my team. I wouldn't have on my team.
Speaker 2: But if he was really good, if he's really good,
Speaker 2: you'd say, hey, can you cannot temper your thing?
Speaker 5: I'd say, go find yourself another team. Steve, with what
Speaker 5: he said, with what he said, he wouldn't be on
Speaker 5: my team. I've got daughters. He's not on my team.
Speaker 2: I get it. So does those look cheap?
Speaker 5: So he just yeah that, Well, that tells you what's
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 2: I get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 5: But he's not on my team. He said, he's not
Speaker 5: on my team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5: That's all Iky.
Speaker 2: We took all the rest of it.
Speaker 5: I want.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I brought up Michigan a little bit ago. Uh, when
Speaker 5: we were talking about the rankings. There's a thing got
Speaker 5: leaked on about Jim Harbaugh. I think I leaked about
Speaker 5: the Michigan notice of allegation and they are that, Sharon,
Speaker 5: what's his name, uh the new head coach, Sharon Moore
Speaker 5: is in the in the in the draft of the
Speaker 5: of the nose of allegation, his name is in there
Speaker 5: saying because they were saying that there was a coach
Speaker 5: that deleted fifty plus text messages with Connor Stallion's and
Speaker 5: that was one of the violations that they were being
Speaker 5: were being uh called on. Well, it turns out it
Speaker 5: was Sharon Moore who was the one who deleted those
Speaker 5: text messages. So now you have the defensive coordinator as
Speaker 5: being the one that that has deleted the text and
Speaker 5: that has led to that alleged violation. So now they're
Speaker 5: talking about him possibly possibly being suspended, maybe even suspended
Speaker 5: for and requiring a show cause for what he did.
Speaker 2: So he'll get more punishment than Harbaugh will.
Speaker 5: Right left right, And then speaking of your friend Jim Harbaugh,
Speaker 5: he came out with a statement today. Let me let
Speaker 5: me find it. His statement was no longer than college football,
Speaker 5: never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with
Speaker 5: that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson.
Speaker 5: I've preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.
Speaker 5: No one's perfect. If you stumble you apologize and you
Speaker 5: make it right today. I do not apologize. I did
Speaker 5: not participate, was not aware nor complicit in in those
Speaker 5: said allegations. So for me, it's back to work and
Speaker 5: attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to man.
Speaker 2: So let me say this. They have they have all
Speaker 2: these allegations in a number of ways. We've dealt with
Speaker 2: it here. How much teeth or how many how many
Speaker 2: teeth to the n C DOUA have left?
Speaker 5: Not much? And that and that's you know, that's the
Speaker 5: whole point. You know, we saw they well how many
Speaker 5: games did did Harbor miss? Like six games last year?
Speaker 5: Maybe they went fifteen to oh right, So what did
Speaker 5: that matter? I mean, I mean, you know, okay, so
Speaker 5: Jim Harbor, I had to watch the games at all?
Speaker 5: Who knows? And and and remember Tennessee for their violations,
Speaker 5: got to find what six million dollars wrote the check and.
Speaker 2: Then well you saw what I was in Kentucky right
Speaker 2: in shops.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Still, you know, there's there's stuff that happened last week.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to be around much anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah longer.
Speaker 5: There's nothing. There's nothing, there's no punishment that you can do.
Speaker 5: That's gonna make them. They're not gonna worry about it.
Speaker 5: They're just gonna move on into the next thing.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, and we've seen it here. You know,
Speaker 2: other places had their issues that arizonas have theirs issues
Speaker 2: had theirs. So you take away ten wins, ten games,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, okay, let's let's say they let's say
Speaker 5: they go they're not going to, but let's say they
Speaker 5: go so far as to say you have to give
Speaker 5: up your championship. Do people really think they didn't win
Speaker 5: the champions Well.
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. Well Louisville did that with the
Speaker 2: potato right, right, So let me give you this. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Sean won a lot of games here, right, I
Speaker 2: don't know, three hundred and some games. I think it
Speaker 2: Wasistic or somebody else, or Tarzuski who surpassed Mealbach for
Speaker 2: the most wins. They took away those wins.
Speaker 5: Even in the record, but for for for Tarzuski, No, no, no,
Speaker 5: that's for Miller. They took away those r from Miller's records.
Speaker 2: So do they take away the wins for the kids?
Speaker 5: They didn't didn't happen that that's gonna make my head spin.
Speaker 5: That's going to happen, right right, I yeah, no, you're right,
Speaker 5: I don't Yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But those didn't happen, right, I mean, like that, what
Speaker 5: didn't Jason with Jason Terry And there were some some
Speaker 5: games that got vacated. There an NC double a appearance
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 2: In the Oklahoma game, yeah, yeah, I hit the pay back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 2: that works. But uh, but they had a lot more
Speaker 2: games than meal Buck did. Yeah, and not not to
Speaker 2: defend meal Buck, but yeah, do those games count now, yeah?
Speaker 2: Or part of the record.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, So anyway, so you know,
Speaker 5: more to come on that. The thing is that you know,
Speaker 5: with this thing with Michigan, Okay, so they haven't they
Speaker 5: haven't even been served with the notice of allegations yet.
Speaker 5: It's just got the draft just got leaked. So they've
Speaker 5: got when it when it ever gets served, when they
Speaker 5: ever get served, they've got ninety days to appeal or
Speaker 5: to come up with their response, which basically gets you
Speaker 5: almost through the entire football.
Speaker 2: Well, Jay, look at Arizona's back and forth took how
Speaker 2: many years?
Speaker 5: Right? So, and that was because that that other a
Speaker 5: A whatever AI, But this one they've got ninety days
Speaker 5: to respond and then once they respond, the n C
Speaker 5: double A has x amount of time to respond to that.
Speaker 5: So this thing won't be done before the football season.
Speaker 2: The new coach will be somewhere else with harbors and resistance.
Speaker 5: And yeah, and if you're if you're Sharon Moore and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it looks like you're gonna get
Speaker 5: your your face kicked in, you're gonna, you know, miss,
Speaker 5: then you just go get a job in the NFL,
Speaker 5: right and be done with it, just like what just
Speaker 5: like what Harba did. Yeah, So I don't know that
Speaker 5: that there's really anything anybody can do.
Speaker 2: So go and go back and see we only had
Speaker 2: a minute a half we got to talk to is
Speaker 2: uh Mount Rushmore for Arizona basketball. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you can find that somewhere will yeah uh And we
Speaker 2: got a little time. We got a little time. Maybe
Speaker 2: we'll find it the next minute or so. I had
Speaker 2: an issue with it, Will obviously cod your issue, he
Speaker 2: had Miles on the Oh I did it as she did.
Speaker 5: I don't think you did. Did. Oh you'all to find it,
Speaker 5: I'll look it up. I'll look it up during the break,
Speaker 5: because all right, I'll find it during the break. Anyways, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna come back. We've got Bob mcmannonmon. We're gonna
Speaker 5: talk a little bit of Arizona Cardinals. See what's going
Speaker 5: on up at their camp. He's a columnist with THEIRS
Speaker 5: on the Republic. And we'll see if you can tell
Speaker 5: us what's up. So stick around.
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Speaker 1: Mean, iHeartRadio. This is High on the Ball with Steve
Speaker 1: Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jake now in phone.
Speaker 2: Longtime friend Bob that the management of the Arizona Republic
Speaker 2: in Arizona Central. Bob, how are you?
Speaker 6: I'm well?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 2: We're doing well. The last time we spoke to you, you
Speaker 2: were the beat guy for the Cardinals. Are you still
Speaker 2: the beat guy? Because I saw a Collin about you
Speaker 2: not long ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am helping on the Cardinals, but now writing columns. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I'll do some I'll do some Cardinals work as well,
Speaker 4: but mostly Colin.
Speaker 2: Let me let me I read your column. I think
Speaker 2: it was maybe ten days ago, more than a week ago.
Speaker 2: I loved it. You've done a lot, obviously, and the
Speaker 2: one thing that struck me in and the way you
Speaker 2: wrote it was very I enjoyed it because I have
Speaker 2: the same issue here. You're not a fan. You're not
Speaker 2: a fan. You write it that way, and sometimes that
Speaker 2: pisss off some of the people you write about. As
Speaker 2: he talked about some of the confrontations right yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a few to a few thousand millions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, does that?
Speaker 2: Does that? How do you react to those? Because that
Speaker 2: kind of means that you've done a good job and
Speaker 2: maybe start the juices. But you're telling it like you
Speaker 2: think it's happening or I don't know, explain please.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, And I didn't make my intentions completely
Speaker 4: clear in that introductory column to let people know who
Speaker 4: I was or my backstory and what I neglected to
Speaker 4: put in. It was the first day that I formally
Speaker 4: interviewed as a seventeen year old knucklehead in high school
Speaker 4: at this paper was with my first of I think
Speaker 4: fifteen sports setters. But this man said, are you a
Speaker 4: fan of any team? And I said, well, I grew
Speaker 4: up near chic Hago, so I got all the and
Speaker 4: I I love all those teams. And I was an
Speaker 4: unofficial ball boy for the Suns. Used to sneak into
Speaker 4: the coliseum and rebound for those guys and then hide
Speaker 4: behind the stands until they let us come out and
Speaker 4: do it every day on game days. Because well, you're
Speaker 4: not a fan anymore, I said, okay, because if you
Speaker 4: want to work here, and I don't know what you're
Speaker 4: going to do for us. You know you're not going
Speaker 4: to be a fan. You have to be impartial. Can
Speaker 4: you do that? I said, yes, sir, I can, and
Speaker 4: I haven't been a fan since, and it's been it's
Speaker 4: been wonderful. Because fans tear themselves apart. I don't have
Speaker 4: to do that anymore. I haven't done it for forty
Speaker 4: five years.
Speaker 2: I love you, Bob. Because people say, how could you
Speaker 2: not be a fan? It's just the way it is
Speaker 2: with me. I love you, man.
Speaker 4: I'll root for players that I've covered, that i've that
Speaker 4: I like, or that you know I have done something special,
Speaker 4: or coaches that I got along with well, but it's
Speaker 4: usually privately. It won't show in my writing. I hope
Speaker 4: it doesn't. If it does, maybe now it will that
Speaker 4: I'm a columnist, But I don't think so. I think
Speaker 4: they got to keep it. You got to keep it
Speaker 4: the way it's supposed to be. And you know, rooting
Speaker 4: for teams on air on TV and wearing jerseys or
Speaker 4: T shirts of your team, and you're a reporter or
Speaker 4: supposed to be a journalist, that's not what journalists do.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be anyway.
Speaker 5: No, you're one hundred percent correct that. And Bob, look,
Speaker 5: we you know I'm the fan in the room here
Speaker 5: because that's what we do with that. But you know,
Speaker 5: I grew up here in Tucson. I went to the
Speaker 5: U of A. Suddenly I'm covering Arizona basketball and then
Speaker 5: I'm covering Arizona football. And I do believe that I
Speaker 5: was able to turn off the switch of being a
Speaker 5: fan that during that time. But I'm not gonna lie that.
Speaker 5: When I was covering Arizona the eighty eight basketball team,
Speaker 5: they ended up going to the Final four. And remember
Speaker 5: when they're playing North Carolina in the in the lad eight,
Speaker 5: trying to get to the first Final four. I wasn't
Speaker 5: cheering on press rod, but inside I'm going, I really
Speaker 5: want you guys to win this game. But I really
Speaker 5: want you to win for the purely selfish reasons that
Speaker 5: I wanted to cover a Final four, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I took it. You know, same
Speaker 5: thing with football, right, I wanted to cover a Rose Bowl. Now,
Speaker 5: they weren't in a position you know, the years I
Speaker 5: covered them to be good enough.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 5: But winning, covering winning is more fun than covering losing,
Speaker 5: which is.
Speaker 4: Which stories were about really.
Speaker 2: Bad Well that's when you get well, you've covered a
Speaker 2: few of them, covered them, So tell us how was
Speaker 2: they gonna be this year?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What what are we looking at with this?
Speaker 4: Who can get away from the bank?
Speaker 2: You don't know what you look like?
Speaker 4: Amen, I'm sorry, repeat the question.
Speaker 2: So what's so you covered a lot of bad teams?
Speaker 2: How is it going to look like this year with
Speaker 2: the Cardinals?
Speaker 4: You know? I well, well, we'll have to see. I
Speaker 4: wrote a story Sunday about what I think is a
Speaker 4: realistic successful season should look like given everything that they've
Speaker 4: got going on over there, and you know, if they
Speaker 4: don't win seven games, it's a failure. If they win
Speaker 4: eight or nine, it should be considered a success. You know.
Speaker 4: If they if they happen to reach double digits, it
Speaker 4: will be a huge success and a stepping stone into
Speaker 4: becoming expected to be a contender, especially with the youngness
Speaker 4: of this team. So we'll see. You know, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be gonna be at least seven wins, and it should
Speaker 4: be more, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's funny, I bet you you're googling over under no no.
Speaker 4: Well, I mentioned the over under with them is six
Speaker 4: and a half. I think they think they're much better
Speaker 4: than that. So they need to act like that, you know,
Speaker 4: and and and act when I mean act like when
Speaker 4: you've got a hole, like, oh, you lose yours your
Speaker 4: best outside linebacker, your best projected edge rusher, you better
Speaker 4: replace them. Yeah, and you know, it's been what is
Speaker 4: it three days since it happened? In four days and
Speaker 4: they haven't done it yet. They've got two roster spots open.
Speaker 4: It just makes me wonder do they do they think
Speaker 4: they're really going to be a winner or not?
Speaker 5: What is Jonathan Gannon from what you saw last year?
Speaker 5: Is he the guy? I mean? Can he be the guy?
Speaker 4: That's if I can explain that. I am all in
Speaker 4: on Jonathan Mannon. He's a little weird, which is okay.
Speaker 4: He's a little uh uh too energetic, which I like,
Speaker 4: and but he tells, he lays it on the line.
Speaker 4: He's got this good chemistry thing he's building here and
Speaker 4: this new culture shift. But culture shift only goes as
Speaker 4: far as you take your team to wins. So I
Speaker 4: like what he's doing. I didn't even wait for you
Speaker 4: to finish a question, so I'm sorry no time. I
Speaker 4: just had to say that about Goofy Gannon. He's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: I mean it takes I mean it certainly takes a
Speaker 5: certain kind of personality. Maybe is the right word to
Speaker 5: coach in the coach for this franchise, right.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's a whole thing you could open
Speaker 4: up and talk about, for it means many different things.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's only one of thirty two jobs
Speaker 4: in this league, and this particular job. A lot of
Speaker 4: coaches haven't had too much success, and they usually get
Speaker 4: three years and if they don't do it by a
Speaker 4: year or three, they're gone. So you know he's under
Speaker 4: some fire, but it's only a second year. If they
Speaker 4: do what I think they can do and show steady improvement,
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be fine. I think this
Speaker 4: franchise will be on the mend. But it's got to
Speaker 4: happen for me to really believe that.
Speaker 2: Along those lines of fire, the quarterback, I think when
Speaker 2: we talked to you last year, maybe the year before,
Speaker 2: you liked the guy. If I can recall, I like
Speaker 2: you still like him. Okay, I was just gonna ask
Speaker 2: that I'm not so completely.
Speaker 4: That he's going to be a guy who who tells
Speaker 4: us all he wants to do is be the best
Speaker 4: and win the super Bowl, because he's only as good
Speaker 4: as the guys around him and the coaching he gets,
Speaker 4: and how healthy he remains, and you know who they're
Speaker 4: going up against and what those teams are doing. There's
Speaker 4: so many things connected to it. I'd like him. I
Speaker 4: believe in Kyler, but I'll need to see him do
Speaker 4: Kyler things again and be better at it than he
Speaker 4: had been when he went to the Pro Bowl too
Speaker 4: straight years.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So what about Marvin Harrison Junior? Is he the
Speaker 5: real deal?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, yeah, there's no question about that. And I'll
Speaker 4: have a column out tomorrow about about that and a
Speaker 4: couple issues that I have potentially about what the Cardinals
Speaker 4: are doing with him. You should check it out.
Speaker 5: Okay, we will definitely do that.
Speaker 2: You've you've been in this business. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 2: to your call him. I can't remember most of it now,
Speaker 2: but you've had a great walk, You've you've had a
Speaker 2: great life. I mean, come on, look at us. We're
Speaker 2: in radio.
Speaker 5: I ever worked a day in my life.
Speaker 2: Right, we're radio now. We used to be newspaper guys.
Speaker 2: What kind of pictures do you have of the bosses.
Speaker 12: I see what you did that.
Speaker 4: I started writing before there were cameras apparently, so no,
Speaker 4: I have no no photos, no facts.
Speaker 2: But you've you've you've covered a lot of great things.
Speaker 2: I mean you were down here for a while too,
Speaker 2: covering some teams.
Speaker 4: I would the two soun a lot. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 4: a big fan and these as you people give you
Speaker 4: guys a bad name, and I don't know why.
Speaker 5: I love that. Well, we do the same to them.
Speaker 5: So we're good.
Speaker 4: Breakfast place I've ever been to. Some fun spring training
Speaker 4: moments were yeah.
Speaker 5: We're all okay with that because we do the same thing.
Speaker 5: Oh hey, here's here's here's the little detail. You're watching
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame game, the kickoff thing. What do
Speaker 5: you think of that?
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be interesting. Yeah, they're trying
Speaker 4: to make it better than it was, and I appreciate
Speaker 4: that because kicked off, we turns were a record low
Speaker 4: twenty one percent, which is ridiculous. Everything else was touchbacks,
Speaker 4: you know, So we're going to bring some excitement back
Speaker 4: to the game. It's going to open up a roster spot,
Speaker 4: I think for player or players who can find a
Speaker 4: niche in roll. Both on kick coverage and kick return teams,
Speaker 4: special teams. Coaches are scratching their heads. It's just going
Speaker 4: to be trial and error. But I think you're gonna
Speaker 4: see some big, exciting place and if you don't, it
Speaker 4: means they're just going to kick it into the end
Speaker 4: zone and put the ball to you know, thirty.
Speaker 2: Well, you must be in the business now, you started
Speaker 2: seventeen maybe forty five years. Can you give me one
Speaker 2: of your favorite stories or two?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think I mentioned in the in the column.
Speaker 4: One was covering the ninety two Baseball Major League Baseball
Speaker 4: All Star Game in San Diego the Old Murph and
Speaker 4: then staying at this brand new Marriott Twin Tower place
Speaker 4: they opened up at the time. And I think Griffy
Speaker 4: Junior won the home run Derby that year, if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken. And I my pregnant wife at the time
Speaker 4: was nine months with twins on the way, and she's
Speaker 4: upstairs and I get back to the hotel. I went
Speaker 4: into the bar to get like three bottles of bud
Speaker 4: Light in a bucket of ice and bring it upstairs
Speaker 4: and calls her from the bar phone and said, honey,
Speaker 4: do you need anything. I'm back I'm just grabbing some
Speaker 4: beers and ice. I'll be right up. She goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm fine, take your time. And the bartender said, dude, don't,
Speaker 4: don't go upstairs, and I'm like, why, he goes, look
Speaker 4: at these four guys sitting here alone at the bar.
Speaker 4: You're the only dude here besides me. And it was
Speaker 4: Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Ernie Banks, and Mickey Mantle, the
Speaker 4: four greatest living baseball legends at the time for certain, right,
Speaker 4: And I didn't go up to the room for quite
Speaker 4: a while, you know, I need to say. And I
Speaker 4: just laughed a lot. I got ribbed in the elbow,
Speaker 4: ribbed by Ted Williams every time they told a great
Speaker 4: joke and I laughed, uh. And they bought my beers
Speaker 4: and I didn't say a word to them, just sat
Speaker 4: there silently, respectfully and listened like a good reporter should do.
Speaker 4: And never wrote about it. Really, I mean, I wrote
Speaker 4: about it since, but yeah, not not. Anything that was
Speaker 4: said right over beer was just like the experience was
Speaker 4: one of many, many, many that this career has given me.
Speaker 4: And I hope it gives me a lot more. And
Speaker 4: I hope i'm worthy of it.
Speaker 2: This question. Did she divorce you after this?
Speaker 4: No, no she didn't.
Speaker 5: But you bring up a good point because they say
Speaker 5: you never wrote. You didn't write about it at the time.
Speaker 5: You wrote about it later as part of telling stories.
Speaker 4: As a Father's day column for my kids when they
Speaker 4: you still let me do Colm the second of the day.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that people don't realize that we
Speaker 5: saw things as reporters, that it wasn't always.
Speaker 4: A story like trust me, it'll be in the fuck.
Speaker 5: It didn't always have to be a story. It's it's
Speaker 5: a memory and maybe you talk about it later, but
Speaker 5: we saw things. It wasn't like today where everybody's got their.
Speaker 4: Heaven. Yeah, but you didn't have it then. We didn't
Speaker 4: have I don't even know if I had a cell
Speaker 4: phone then a pager. I don't even remember. I don't
Speaker 4: even know what those things were for, other than you know,
Speaker 4: the wife lady saying, hey, it's trying to get home,
Speaker 4: get get home right right.
Speaker 2: It seems like it would have happened a long earlier
Speaker 2: before with all the big names you know, yeah yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: Well imagine if there was Twitter and Babe Bruce, time
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 5: Well, it wouldn't you know. What would happen was there
Speaker 5: would have been people in there with their cameras, you know,
Speaker 5: with their phones taking pictures of these guys sitting there
Speaker 5: trying to have a beer, and you never would have
Speaker 5: had that experience, right, you'd had right, Well.
Speaker 4: I'm on that, But you know what, I know what
Speaker 4: it's for. It it's a good tool. And I'm faithful
Speaker 4: user of X and UH don't always like what I
Speaker 4: see on X, but I use it as a tool
Speaker 4: for my job and it's a good way to spread
Speaker 4: the word about just the stuff that I and my
Speaker 4: colleagues do. And I think that's good.
Speaker 2: Who's sharing Who you sharing the beat with? Uh?
Speaker 4: Tao Tao Mack. He came over from the d Backs.
Speaker 4: He's a young young guy from Washington, DC area. He's
Speaker 4: been on the d Backs with Nick Bacloro. He's a
Speaker 4: go getter, he's a good to go to guy. You
Speaker 4: guys need to get him on your show, will uh
Speaker 4: and and he will. He will fill your radio hours.
Speaker 4: He will take care of you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he'll talk about the time.
Speaker 4: He is like, I'll be in a bullpen kind of
Speaker 4: like a reliever. If things get really desperate and you
Speaker 4: really need me, I'll come out for the ninth inning.
Speaker 5: All right, we'll tell you tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I have on't answer, but you can call it.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about the time you had a chance
Speaker 2: to have a beer with Dela Cruz with and some
Speaker 2: of those guys you know back in the day, back
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 4: Don't remember those days at all?
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, well, Bob, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: Pretty sad.
Speaker 2: Good luck with your column stuff, and we'll be reading you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: have fun.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys having me on. Enjoy your day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob's one of the good guys. One of the
Speaker 2: things I remember from Bob to Moses, and we all
Speaker 2: do this right, because we all have our quirks. He'd
Speaker 2: have those two liter bottles of PEPSI, oh god, I
Speaker 2: just take those everywhere. Dude. That was like diabetes on
Speaker 2: his stick. How do I know because I used to
Speaker 2: do that too.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. All right, good, good conversation with Bob
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera and jaygn Salez they have their eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on Tucson Sports stag Chef Fox Sports fourteen
Speaker 1: fifty streaming live. I mean iHeartRadio WAPs.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to tying the ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta. Please Jaketsas got Henry
Speaker 2: with us. You have a chance to review that.
Speaker 5: That Mountain Rushmore basketball I did and your thoughts well.
Speaker 5: John Wilner is a really good friend of mine, almost family. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know, we're very close. As far as that goes on.
Speaker 2: I hear, I hear something coming on, but he is
Speaker 2: full of it on this one.
Speaker 5: I agree, lily full of it. I think he missed
Speaker 5: by a lot.
Speaker 2: Came out about two three weeks ago.
Speaker 5: It came out to twenty sixth two weeks about about
Speaker 5: a week ago. The fifth Okay, yeah, maybe we can
Speaker 5: have ten ds. Okay, he missed, give us the list. Okay,
Speaker 5: obviously he did it. For all he did, for all
Speaker 5: he did, for all packed all packed twelve teams. The
Speaker 5: criteria was that it was only for a while, It
Speaker 5: was only involving players who were in the conference. So
Speaker 5: you know, uh, you know, Eric Money from Arizona could
Speaker 5: not be in the Conel Norman those guys, because they
Speaker 5: were they were in the wack Bob Elliot, those guys
Speaker 5: he selected. We selected four players, included the names of
Speaker 5: five more who were considered. Performance in the NBA was
Speaker 5: not part of the calculation, which is important. We did
Speaker 5: not consider players who competed for Arizona, SU Colorado and
Speaker 5: Utah before their schools joined the PAC twelve. Uh so
Speaker 5: that was of the criteria. So obviously you pick a
Speaker 5: coach is Ludelson, I mean, that's no rainer. Then for
Speaker 5: for the players to me, two are legit obvious choices,
Speaker 5: Sean Elliott and Damon Stotdman, Fine, no issue with that,
Speaker 5: But then he picked Miles Simon, okay, and then he
Speaker 5: picked Derek Williams, and I get if to me, it
Speaker 5: seems like Derek Williams got picked using a criteria that
Speaker 5: he says is not a criteria. That was the fact
Speaker 5: that Derek Williams was a high first round draft pick. Okay,
Speaker 5: Derek Williams had about eight good games year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know he he went off in that in that
Speaker 5: Duke game in the in the NCAA tournament. You know,
Speaker 5: he he you know, he had about eight good games.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. There's about ten guys that I would put
Speaker 5: ahead of Derek Williams, all right, all five of the guys,
Speaker 5: All five of the guys that are and his also
Speaker 5: considered list, who are Mike Bibbie, Jason Gardner, Steve Kirk,
Speaker 5: Chris Mills, and Jason Terry. I put all five of
Speaker 5: those guys they had at Derek Williams, I mean, not
Speaker 5: even close. Then he mentioned some other guys that he
Speaker 5: said didn't even make the also considered list. TJ McConnell,
Speaker 5: Luke Walton, Michael Dickerson, Pete Williams. I put all those
Speaker 5: guys ahead of Derek Williams. All right, Derek Williams had
Speaker 5: that Duke game, then he had that block against Washington,
Speaker 5: and that's it.
Speaker 2: He was very good that year. But but I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I have an issue with
Speaker 2: Miles too, and I have an issue with Miles Miles Miles,
Speaker 2: even though he was the most MP, the most play.
Speaker 2: Bibby was pretty good in that whole.
Speaker 5: My five would be Elliott four for my four would
Speaker 5: be Elliott, Scott, Omeyer, Bibby and Kerr again, Steve Kerr,
Speaker 5: nothing happened. Nothing that's happened with Arizona basketball since then
Speaker 5: happens without Steve Kurrishawn Elliott. He's on Mount Rushmore of
Speaker 5: Arizona basketball. For what he for what he he did.
Speaker 5: We've all said a million times. If Steve Kerr plays
Speaker 5: in the eighty six eighty seven season, nothing happens. Arizona
Speaker 5: basketball isn't what it is. They don't change, right, the
Speaker 5: trajectory changes, they don't get to the eighty eight final four.
Speaker 5: All of those things, all right, Steve Kurrz Steve Currs
Speaker 5: like number two on the Mount Russian and after Sean.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a great college career, but he's he's
Speaker 2: that significant.
Speaker 5: Incredibly impactful college career at Arizona from the time he
Speaker 5: came in as a freshman and he you know that
Speaker 5: thing with it when his dad got assassinated, that brought
Speaker 5: that put the whole community together together. You're following this
Speaker 5: basketball team that was that's where it started.
Speaker 2: Here's my here's my issue, and I covered it for
Speaker 2: a long time, written a number of books. Everybody knows
Speaker 2: Shawn is easy, Sewan is right. Damon to me is
Speaker 2: the number two. Number two play a bit whole time.
Speaker 2: And I could be wrong.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 2: Uh three, I don't even know. I don't even know
Speaker 2: who's three. And I've covered them all. There's nobody on
Speaker 2: the Seawn team teams. They were here too soon. They
Speaker 2: didn't last that long. Although my favorite is McConnell.
Speaker 5: Right, he did say John did say no one had
Speaker 5: Dune's were even considered, which is mostly who may have
Speaker 5: been the best talent of all these guys, but he
Speaker 5: was here for.
Speaker 2: And even then I was questionable at times, right to
Speaker 2: so McConnell to me would be him, He'd be the
Speaker 2: best one of all of them, uh, since then two
Speaker 2: we don't know really in the last year, I don't
Speaker 2: even know. Number three the most underrated to me is
Speaker 2: is Chris Mills of all of them, But then you
Speaker 2: have you have Richard, you have you have Gilbert, you
Speaker 2: have Jason Garden who has all the stats, right, played
Speaker 2: all these games, score all these points. But you know,
Speaker 2: but was Jason Gardner?
Speaker 15: Right?
Speaker 5: He was?
Speaker 2: But Jason Terry, where do you put him in? And
Speaker 2: then you got to include well, there was an NCAA violation,
Speaker 2: not a little one, kind of a big one. So
Speaker 2: you don't how do you And remember that Miles in
Speaker 2: that year was academically ineligible. He didn't play that first
Speaker 2: that first half of the year, right, and then he
Speaker 2: stew the school. So there's a lot of little things, right,
Speaker 2: So Miles wouldn't make it the prof He's not on
Speaker 2: my list. So so there's my issue. I don't even
Speaker 2: who's three or four in terms of players, because you
Speaker 2: had Richard, No, I don't think so Gilbert, who's fantastic,
Speaker 2: but no two years so there's a lot of caveat right, right.
Speaker 5: And again Mike Baby was here two years. But but
Speaker 5: but you and I agree that the more. The most
Speaker 5: important guy on that national championship team was Mike Bibby,
Speaker 5: not Miles Simon. Correct, So that put question that for
Speaker 5: me puts Bibby ahead of Myles Simon. I get it.
Speaker 5: The Miles was here four years, but I'm putting Bibby
Speaker 5: up there because of what he accomplished, you know here
Speaker 5: in those two years. What was Derek coins here? Two years?
Speaker 2: Two years? Again?
Speaker 15: If if you know, Derek Williams so far back on
Speaker 15: the list for me, and and I mean, look, he
Speaker 15: well even even I know this, this might be a
Speaker 15: little did he mention kid?
Speaker 2: He was the basketball players? Kalid was fantastic. He played
Speaker 2: four years and he was fantastic. Yeah, but he was
Speaker 2: kind of like under the Raider fantastic.
Speaker 5: He's and Klid's also got the stigma of he could
Speaker 5: have been so much better. Right, all right, let's take this, Hi,
Speaker 5: you're on the Aaron I on the balls.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got your four?
Speaker 5: Ready?
Speaker 1: Go all right?
Speaker 16: Kerr, Elliott Dotto Meyer and Chris Rogers. Every time I can,
Speaker 16: anytime I could say bad things about.
Speaker 2: Will give me your fourth, the fourth, the fourth.
Speaker 6: One serious fourth.
Speaker 16: Honestly, I think he's he's I think we became the
Speaker 16: Dallas Cowboys of Tucson with a son Adams in all. Honestly,
Speaker 16: when it came to being on ESPN, all this nationwide
Speaker 16: popularity with his dunks and stuff like, his impact financially,
Speaker 16: I think was him and Iguadala that that was that
Speaker 16: before and four B. When it comes to an impact,
Speaker 16: that is not always saying where you stay more than
Speaker 16: one year, even though they didn't really do much. I mean,
Speaker 16: Essan didn't do much after after U of A. But
Speaker 16: but that twenty twenty two thousand and two thousand teish
Speaker 16: period of time was a pretty epic period.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, that's that's an interesting one. Well, you know
Speaker 2: the guy that which is an interesting one because you
Speaker 2: mentioned Andre too. Luke Walton said that if Andre would
Speaker 2: have stayed here for four years, he would have been
Speaker 2: the best player to ever play here. Of course he
Speaker 2: didn't blame and then his legacy ended. Beat with him
Speaker 2: on the phone right before a game and they sucked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, hard to say, but Hassan, that's
Speaker 2: a strange one. Who is this? Have you called before?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 16: I called before?
Speaker 4: Yeah? JR?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, thanks?
Speaker 5: No good? Well look and those three, the first three
Speaker 5: that you mentioned was you know, to me, those are
Speaker 5: no brainers, right, And I don't know, we're not.
Speaker 16: Talking about talent, you know, we're talking about impact and
Speaker 16: legacy that like I can see a statue with a
Speaker 16: plaque saying why you know.
Speaker 2: But still, those guys were all talented. They were very talented.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I mean because because of all those, McConnell
Speaker 16: is probably the least talented person I know, other than
Speaker 16: Josh Passmer that ever played for the U of a
Speaker 16: basketball wise brain, win is amazing, you know, at heart amazing.
Speaker 2: Till yeah, you know, and we'll see him in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I'll see him. Pete Williams had it
Speaker 2: not been for the Cornerstone to come here with Eddie
Speaker 2: Smith and those guys, because he had a huge impact.
Speaker 5: Right, And that's why I say all those guys are
Speaker 5: ahead of Derek Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey j R.
Speaker 5: Thanks a whole bunch man. We appreciate it. Chris Rogers,
Speaker 5: we love that.
Speaker 4: Chris.
Speaker 2: You remember Chris. He he was kicked off the team.
Speaker 2: He was he was they let him back in. He
Speaker 2: was a little nutty. That was the end of Loot's time.
Speaker 2: That was kind of like the end of the beginning
Speaker 2: of the end.
Speaker 5: Chris was a little nutty. I just had he just yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean he was he was a character, but I
Speaker 5: don't know, doesn't even make this list yet. Well again,
Speaker 5: when you talk about legacy and and all that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff, he was the grouchy probably the grouchiest player
Speaker 5: in kind of the you know, Malcolm, most malcontented player
Speaker 5: of all the ones that we saw through.
Speaker 2: Those through those years are not named Rogers, not named Chris.
Speaker 5: Rogers got another call, Hi, you're on the air and
Speaker 5: eye of the ball.
Speaker 6: Big guys one that never gets mentioned man like they
Speaker 6: keep saying Damon but uh Salem.
Speaker 5: But we were just talking about him, which his skills.
Speaker 4: Were just I mean, he was our.
Speaker 6: What the name J Curryfore Curry was there like he
Speaker 6: was shooting from the logo when Curry, he didn't nobody
Speaker 6: did that right. He destroyed Kansas.
Speaker 4: I mean, the stuff that.
Speaker 6: He did was just amazing. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 6: though he could be there, he might be like one
Speaker 6: of those cornerstone.
Speaker 5: Okay, and I agree, is that from a talent standpoint,
Speaker 5: and you know, he was the best shooter in the
Speaker 5: in the n C Double A at that time. But
Speaker 5: I feel like he left a bad taste in everybody's
Speaker 5: mouth with his approach and his attitude and his surliness,
Speaker 5: and that would keep him off of there. For me,
Speaker 5: what about you?
Speaker 4: Oh no, he was a jerk.
Speaker 16: I used to ask my dad all the time. I'm like,
Speaker 16: why does he keep playing him the kinds of jerk?
Speaker 4: And He's like, watch.
Speaker 16: Throw the ball in the b and You're like, who's
Speaker 16: I guess what's your.
Speaker 6: Why doesn't Luke bench him for that?
Speaker 4: He was just three points? Three points?
Speaker 6: Three points? Are like, well, yeah, I guess you can't
Speaker 6: take that off the court.
Speaker 2: Well he did.
Speaker 16: It's just one of those things that, like the talent,
Speaker 16: if you're just talking about talent, that talent.
Speaker 2: Well, he did suspend him a few times because of
Speaker 2: that sort of list. I remember going to Milwaukee the
Speaker 2: play Marquette. He had to sit down. And there was
Speaker 2: another thing, do you remember you talked about Kansas And
Speaker 2: that was the Candy Gate where he came back and
Speaker 2: did really well against them, the UCLA game when he
Speaker 2: hit the shot. But he also in the game that
Speaker 2: you went to see at Anaheim, he was a no show.
Speaker 2: He was physically he played, but he was a no
Speaker 2: show because they roughed him up and they said, if
Speaker 2: we get Salima out of this game, we got this game.
Speaker 2: And you remember, if you see a stat line, he
Speaker 2: was nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so you know, look, he's he's certainly worthy
Speaker 5: of consideration. I guess I would have put him on
Speaker 5: that list of also not also considered, but the next
Speaker 5: tier of guys with you know, guys like TJ. McConnell,
Speaker 5: Michael Dickerson, Pete Williams. But you know, to me, getting
Speaker 5: on that mouse rushmore is more than just how good
Speaker 5: were you? It was how good were you overall for
Speaker 5: the program and the team and the impact you had.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so appreciate it.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying, yeah, overall talent,
Speaker 6: the guy had incredible, incredible, but uh yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't put him up there forever.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, good call. Look what's your name, George?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah you have Okay, got you you guys. Some
Speaker 5: of you guys all sound the same and so we
Speaker 5: have tough time with this. George, Thanks for colleague. I
Speaker 5: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Oh we got three minutes. We could come up
Speaker 2: with a few more, Like I said, Chris Mills.
Speaker 5: Okay to me. Here, here's here's one that you know,
Speaker 5: they only went. He was only in the league one year,
Speaker 5: So I don't know what the craig in the in
Speaker 5: the PAC twelve, Pac ten one year he got they
Speaker 5: got into They got into the PAC ten his last year.
Speaker 5: Russell Brown Okay, again though, a guy Russell Brown who
Speaker 5: sort of started the whole you know, Arizona's uh point guard,
Speaker 5: you leg not legacy, but just sort of got the
Speaker 5: ball rolling for them in the PAC ten in that
Speaker 5: senior year. You know, eighteen assists in the game. He
Speaker 5: was a career assist leader at Arizona. I think still
Speaker 5: is you know, is he a guy that gets close
Speaker 5: to that, right, because he's a guy that nobody thinks.
Speaker 2: Of, Well, look at that legacy that that time, right,
Speaker 2: Russell Brown who did what he did, Al Fleming who
Speaker 2: did what he did.
Speaker 5: Fleming never was in the PAC ten. But okay, okay,
Speaker 5: Larry Demick was, Joe Neil's was.
Speaker 2: Okay, so those you're yeah, I'm talking about players just
Speaker 2: overall that were great. Oh yeah, the Russell Brown, Fleming,
Speaker 2: Bob Elliott, right, they had some pretty good dudes. Well,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna pick an all time uh.
Speaker 5: D yah, if you're gonna pick an all time Mount Rushmore, Okay,
Speaker 5: you can't leave Bob Elliott off of that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know that you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, the dude, somebody's got a bump
Speaker 2: and Russell Brown pretty damn good.
Speaker 5: Yes, so you got to bump.
Speaker 2: You haven't even talked about Herman Harrison and the other
Speaker 2: guy who Conelnil Norman. Right, that's a different that's a
Speaker 2: different mouth from rush bore right. But but in fact,
Speaker 2: Javier just sent me and I agree with Javier Kerr
Speaker 2: and the guys we talked about Kerr, Elliott, Sotimar Biby.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's mine.
Speaker 2: And let's remember one thing. Stardom Are lost three first
Speaker 2: round games, went to one final four. In fact, part
Speaker 2: of the book was what do you think your legacy is?
Speaker 2: Since is I don't know. I don't know what my
Speaker 2: legacy is.
Speaker 5: I think there's people who don't think of him up
Speaker 5: there because of those first round losses. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: when I think of David Stodomyer, I think of him
Speaker 5: hitting that three pointer at the buzzer at halftime in
Speaker 5: the Final four against Arkansas. That's the vision I have.
Speaker 2: I have him scoring forty four forty three against Stanford
Speaker 2: and Stanford when he had when he had no choice,
Speaker 2: but they'll score all round.
Speaker 5: So that's my vision of him because we keep seeing
Speaker 5: that highlight, you know, on the on the big screen
Speaker 5: in Uh yeah, Michale. So when I think of and
Speaker 5: stoder Man, that's why I think of There are some
Speaker 5: times that I overlook him when I'm thinking a point
Speaker 5: guard you because I immediately go to Mike, Mike Bibby
Speaker 5: and Steve Hurt.
Speaker 2: I think off Sato Maria. Now is the great guys
Speaker 2: that are covered who we texted all the time and
Speaker 2: now who doesn't return my takes want because we want
Speaker 2: him on the show.
Speaker 5: He's busy. We can get Josh Paster anytime, all right?
Speaker 5: That was fun. Uh, I get Derek Williams. Look, I
Speaker 5: don't know the guy, so I don't know you, but
Speaker 5: I'm just saying he doesn't be long. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: yaller at him. I'm definitely gonna yell at it. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 5: thanks for being here today. We'll be back tomorrow. Uh
Speaker 5: talk some more football stuff and uh maybe even a
Speaker 5: little basketball. All right, thanks for sticking around. We'll see tomorrow.