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<v Speaker 1>Are you a tenant or landlord? You need to be

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<v Speaker 1>March first, twenty twenty six, most tenants will benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum six year tenancy under a new national system

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<v Speaker 1>of rent control. There are limits on how much rent

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<v Speaker 1>can increase and when. For existing tenancies, nothing changes until

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<v Speaker 1>a new tenancy begins. Find out more about the phased

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<v Speaker 1>introduction of these changes at RTB dot I E from

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<v Speaker 1>the Residential Tenancies Board.

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<v Speaker 2>What will we get to the car for the drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Crisps nah rochan is allowed, shower pastries Philly will probably

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<v Speaker 2>bake some first. Where's this hindu anyways? That'd be telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's get some National Lottery scratch cards for a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of crack in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you get change. I just got my nails done.

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<v Speaker 2>Make a fun trip funner with a National Lottery scratch card.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be you play responsibly, play for fun. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the honeymoon will be first class.

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning a live man like this man letting butterfly flapping

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<v Speaker 3>his wing, dig down in a forest man, it gonna

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<v Speaker 3>cause the tree fold letting five thousand miles away.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, nobody seen, nobody, you know, need no man.

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<v Speaker 2>The luck you a little story and you gotted like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's win.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like the dag on the pan. Man, Man, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, all right, fious, Welcome to the Jay Burden Show.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? My pleasure? Thank you for a minute, very much

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<v Speaker 2>driving me on.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm incredibly excited to have you on. I've been listening

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<v Speaker 4>to your work for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You spoken to a number of friends of mine and

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<v Speaker 4>I won't you know, run through the exact same compliment

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<v Speaker 4>I gave you earlier. But my friends in high places

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<v Speaker 4>also speak highly of you and your work. But on

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<v Speaker 4>the off chance my audience isn't familiar with you, well,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you and what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So? I'm a mainly a risk analyst. I look at

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial impact of changes in geopolitical risk and how

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<v Speaker 2>this plays out for different industries, for security, for violent risks,

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<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. I run a consultancy called Madagio Politics,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also present on the Lotus Eaters. I do

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<v Speaker 2>a show called Real Politic talking about the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that we're talking about and I just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>present on other social, political, economic developments, things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 4>So, most recently you did a fascinating breakdown of the

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein files. Obviously this has dominated the news for several

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<v Speaker 4>weeks at this point, but the DOJ released, depending on

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<v Speaker 4>who you ask, between two and a half and three

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<v Speaker 4>and a half million files. Some of those have been

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<v Speaker 4>redacted since, but it's become somewhat difficult to construct a narrative. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>this has become a huge story, and so you have

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<v Speaker 4>dozens of interpretations, and so I'm curious, FIUs, what jumped

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<v Speaker 4>out at you from these files. What did you pick

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<v Speaker 4>up on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the key thing for me, because the allegations of

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<v Speaker 2>things like child abuse and so on aren't really cut

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<v Speaker 2>and dry proven, they're suggested, they are implied. You see

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<v Speaker 2>one of the emails saying that you know, Epstein kept

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<v Speaker 2>kept the gynecologist in business because of his victims. You

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<v Speaker 2>see these kinds of things that suggest that abuse is

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<v Speaker 2>going on. But what isn't disputable from the files is

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<v Speaker 2>that Epstein was at the center of a ethnic network,

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<v Speaker 2>predominantly Jewish network, that tried to profit wherever possible from

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of geopolitical development that presented an opportunity to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and the focus was on financial profit and figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>how to buy and sell financial assets, with Epstein repeatedly

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he isn't interested in real assets or anything

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<v Speaker 2>of that sort. He only makes money from finance. And

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<v Speaker 2>you see that he says that he's the representative of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rothschilds. Previously, if you spoke about any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Rothschild network you were written off as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

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<v Speaker 2>See him talking to Peter Thiel and saying, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I represent the Rothschilds. I need your help in modernizing

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<v Speaker 2>their banking practice and things of that nature. You see

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO of the Edmond Rothschild group emailing him and

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<v Speaker 2>saying that she wants his help. She misses him, Da

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<v Speaker 2>da da, But also he's suggesting senior staff to her

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<v Speaker 2>and helping her hire bankers and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>You see email exchanges about how to profit from the

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine War and the kind of opportunities there. You see

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein making having a connection with Larry Summers and Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Summers advising the Ukrainian government before the war began and

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<v Speaker 2>helping them with their debt and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see them also coordinating on what should happen

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<v Speaker 2>inside Ukraine. You basically see this network that's involved in

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<v Speaker 2>huge geopolitical developments and figuring out how to make money

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<v Speaker 2>on these developments and how to profit from them. And

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<v Speaker 2>it extends across a huge range of politicians and it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't local to any particular place in the world. You

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<v Speaker 2>see connections to India, you see connections to the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>you see connections to Central Asia, to Mongolia, Angola, all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of weird places with one focus, which is how

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<v Speaker 2>to make money. And it works in a way as

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<v Speaker 2>a Ebsteine ends up acting as a clearinghouse for information

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<v Speaker 2>and acts as a facilitator between different networks that each

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<v Speaker 2>have their own oligarchic network. So essentially it's a look

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<v Speaker 2>into the nature of the governing oligarchy that acts under

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<v Speaker 2>the cover of democracy. But when somebody like Macron, who

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a rothschild banker himself, is identified as

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<v Speaker 2>having very high ambitions and wanting to make all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of changes, what happens is that Macro is put in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with the CEO of the World Economic Forum and

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<v Speaker 2>the big Plan on how to bypass the United Nations

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<v Speaker 2>with the World Economic Forum is sort of laid bare

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<v Speaker 2>in the documents that the WF actually produces, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you see this very weird moment where the crazy conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theorists are kind of proven right because it is all

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<v Speaker 2>there in black and white, and it's all documented. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the main value of the Epstein files. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>insight into how this network operates, and it's an insight

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<v Speaker 2>into the way that the rest of the world thinks

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<v Speaker 2>about the United States and how to gain influence in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. So when the Indians want to improve

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship with Trump, they send Anniel Ambani, who is

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<v Speaker 2>an Indian billionaire acting as a representative of the Indian leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets in touch with Epstein. Epstein gives them all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of advice on working with Israel. Modi goes to

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and dances with Natanyahu and that ends up improving

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<v Speaker 2>the fortunes of India in its relations with the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can ask yourself if that's related to h

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<v Speaker 2>one B's or you can ask yourself if that's related

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<v Speaker 2>to the acceptance of Indian students into American universities. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's this kind of oligarchic dynamic that again acts under

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<v Speaker 2>the cover of democracy that's mainly revealed by the files.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key takeaway that there's a big club and

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<v Speaker 2>it consists of billionaires and you're not in it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you add to that people like Jared Kushner, whose

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<v Speaker 2>family is best friends or close friends with the with Dataniaho,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister of Israel, and he's operating in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House, and he's got control of the US's negotiations

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<v Speaker 2>now with Iran and with Russia and with Hamas and

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<v Speaker 2>with all kinds of other issues, and you could see that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this actually connects together, and what you have is a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ethnic oligarchy or ethnic network linked to different

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<v Speaker 2>oligarch different oligarchic networks. That's kind of running the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't separate that from the leaks of emails

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<v Speaker 2>by Larry Allis where he has vetted Marco Rubio for

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<v Speaker 2>his loyalty to Israel and decided to invest in Marco Rubio. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio is now in charge of the NSA, he's

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of the sorry, the National Security Council NSC,

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<v Speaker 2>He's in charge of the State Department. He's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the key decision makers and he's a very strong potential

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<v Speaker 2>successor to Trump. And you can't separate it from JD Vance,

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<v Speaker 2>who was, you know, initially working with David Frum, the

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<v Speaker 2>neo conservative David from and then ended up getting funded

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<v Speaker 2>by Peter Tiel, who's also repeatedly in those files. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a big club and you're just not a

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<v Speaker 2>part of it. And that's actually how decisions are made,

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<v Speaker 2>not based on what voters want are or what the

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<v Speaker 2>public wants or anything, you know, bothersome like that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>big money deciding.

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<v Speaker 3>Observe the Guinness Six Nations point playmaker a rare member

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<v Speaker 3>of the species who, while others lie dormant in the

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<v Speaker 3>group chat, get busy organizing Their go to playbook includes

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<v Speaker 3>essentials like booking the table with the best view of

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<v Speaker 3>the TV, or getting word out of the group that

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<v Speaker 3>we're on for the game, and of course sending an

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<v Speaker 3>extra reminder to that one friend who's known to be

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<v Speaker 3>a bit well flaky, you know the type, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't, it's probably you whether you're enjoying a point

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<v Speaker 3>of Guinness or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is invited to be part of the action. So

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<v Speaker 2>to all the point playmakers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time Raley the squad pick the pub and get

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<v Speaker 3>ready for the Guinness Six Nations.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink responsibly.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's a drinkiq dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>There are several things there obviously, Well, this is not

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<v Speaker 4>the point of this podcast. The US is at war

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<v Speaker 4>with a rent relatively recently, and again as we saw

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<v Speaker 4>with you know, Tucker Carlson's interview with Mike Cuckabee, it

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<v Speaker 4>is very clear this is not a popular war. The

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<v Speaker 4>American people did not want it, and ironically enough, as

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<v Speaker 4>Rubio himself revealed, the American government didn't even directly make

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<v Speaker 4>the decision to go about this war. It is very

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<v Speaker 4>clear that this is not a democracy right as described

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<v Speaker 4>to you in your high school Civics class. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that I want to go back to that

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<v Speaker 4>you brought up that I think is particularly interesting is

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<v Speaker 4>the interaction between Epstein and Teal, because, as you've said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if you would have told me you know

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<v Speaker 4>that you believed that the Rothschilds were an integral part

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<v Speaker 4>of this two years ago, just as a round number,

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<v Speaker 4>I would have said, you're probably crazy, right, That's that's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the kind of classic tinfoil hat stuff. So

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<v Speaker 4>I admit, you know what I was wrong there. I

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<v Speaker 4>think many people were. But you see this sort of

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<v Speaker 4>maximal version of Epstein, that this is sort of the

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<v Speaker 4>one world network. Everything runs through this. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>not a defensive Peter Tiel, far from it. But when

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<v Speaker 4>I look at those emails, I see something very different

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<v Speaker 4>than how Epstein is talking to his guys, the guys

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<v Speaker 4>in his network, they're much more professional. He has actually

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<v Speaker 4>bothered to spell words correctly. And to me, I see that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I see two networks talking to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that I'm correct there? And if so,

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<v Speaker 4>does this indicate that there are more Epstein's running around?

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it means. What it means is that

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<v Speaker 2>there are different leadership networks. So somebody like Ambani, to

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<v Speaker 2>use another example, is not part of the of Epstein's

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<v Speaker 2>own network, but he is part of a network that

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<v Speaker 2>interfaces with Epstein's network, which we should refer to as

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<v Speaker 2>the Rothschild Epstein network, because he is their representative. In

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<v Speaker 2>his own words. Somebody like Teal is at the head

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<v Speaker 2>of his own network, which he cultivated over the years

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<v Speaker 2>and built up over the years, and Vance is part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Teal network. Somebody like Larry Ellison, who also

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<v Speaker 2>features in those emails, he's again his own man. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like Larry Fink, whose son's ex girlfriend I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>with Fink Junior and how she was pressured into an abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see these dynamics where it's these guys interacting

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<v Speaker 2>That actually defines the political discourse. It's not that they

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<v Speaker 2>are that there is one network and one conspiracy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that what happens is that there's a bunch of networks.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the real decision makers. Democracy acts as a

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<v Speaker 2>cover for them, and they get what they want through donations.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to pause for a second and then

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<v Speaker 2>that in context and what Marco Rubio actually said. There's

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<v Speaker 2>been two theories on the Iran War. One which is

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<v Speaker 2>what Tucker Carlson has said in the past, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that the Israelis have threatened to use nuclear weapons if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have their way if the Americans don't play ball. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis were going to launch a war on their own

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<v Speaker 2>and there for the Americans who are going to be targeted,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore it was wise for the US to participate

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<v Speaker 2>in that attack. If you look at this in some

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<v Speaker 2>more thought, what you understand is that it's the Americans

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<v Speaker 2>who are providing the Israelis with the terminal high altitude

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<v Speaker 2>air defense systems, the FAD systems, which are absolutely necessary

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<v Speaker 2>for Israel to intercept Iranian hypersonic missiles because the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>don't work, and ARTO three kind of does, kind of doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and pretty much all Israeli technology or is American funded,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the interception technology. It's the Americans who are providing

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<v Speaker 2>Israel with the bombs and with the aircraft and with

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much every bit of capability that they need. So

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<v Speaker 2>during the Gaza War or the Gaza and Lebanon War

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<v Speaker 2>after seven October, they got endless shipments of artillery shells

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<v Speaker 2>from the United States, to the extent that this created

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<v Speaker 2>a shortage in Ukraine because the Ukrainians also needed those shells.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can talk about the Zelenski Summer's Epstein connections.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that the Israelis get four billion dollars every

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<v Speaker 2>war like the one that started on seven October, you

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<v Speaker 2>see that that figure becomes tens of billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You would assume that a country of the size of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>which is dependent on the United States financially, which is

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on the United States economically and politically, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the US that vetos UN resolutions, it's the US that

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<v Speaker 2>stops the UN from acting gainst Israel, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>you would assume that that country would be a dependency

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<v Speaker 2>and that if the Israelis said to American decision makers,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to go to war on our own,

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<v Speaker 2>the answer would be pound sand and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>use nuclear weapons. The answer would be while you will

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<v Speaker 2>face the consequences of using nuclear weapons. So the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason that American decision makers would conclude that if the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli said they were going to war, they have no

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<v Speaker 2>choice about to follow is because of the existence of

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<v Speaker 2>networks like Epstein's, like Allison's, and obviously, as natanieljo himself

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<v Speaker 2>said the biggest technology move in the last year was

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<v Speaker 2>the acquisition of TikTok by Larry Allison, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>consolidated over a big chunk of media, and that from

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<v Speaker 2>that cascades all kinds of Hollywood studios that operate under him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have the Murdoch Network, which controls Fox

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<v Speaker 2>News and the information that pretty much all American Republicans receive.

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<v Speaker 2>You get this intersection of media, blackmail, lobbying, power, apac financing,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them working together to achieve the objectives of

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<v Speaker 2>one state. And you see that with the Epstein connections

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<v Speaker 2>to Ehudbadakh. We have reports essentially from the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it was these rabies who planted the security

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<v Speaker 2>equipment and the surveyance equipment in Epstein's mansion in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that they have access to the alleged blackmail material

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<v Speaker 2>that Epstein would have had. And we have it on

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<v Speaker 2>record that there were enormous drives and files that were

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<v Speaker 2>in the Epstein mansion that disappeared after the FBI initial rate.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you ask yourself, well, okay, how is this

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<v Speaker 2>on is that these networks of oligarchs are pushing the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, and behind the United States, the entire West

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<v Speaker 2>in one direction. And then you have a media arm

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<v Speaker 2>like ADL which will tell you that if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>support transgenderism, then your evil Well, who's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest backers of transgenderism. It's the Pritzkers. Guess what one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Pritzkers features in the Epstein files. So you

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<v Speaker 2>end up with an impression that these networks are pushing

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<v Speaker 2>certain things on the world, including the war in Idan,

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<v Speaker 2>including transgenderism, including immigration, including the whole BLM anti racism

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<v Speaker 2>bs and they stand to benefit from it financially, but

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<v Speaker 2>they also to kind of benefit from it socially because

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a very Christian ethnically cohesive nation, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>but very naturally, it will exclude certain ethnic groups. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you see what diversity is our strength really means,

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<v Speaker 2>and who the hour is in that slogan. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you end up thinking, maybe I'm losing my mind because

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<v Speaker 2>all of this sounds too conspiratorial. But you look at

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<v Speaker 2>campaign donations, you look at Donald Trump saying to the

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<v Speaker 2>Israelik Nesset that it was because of Sheldon Adelson's money

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<v Speaker 2>that he recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and

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<v Speaker 2>moved the embassy, and he recognized the Golan Heights as

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli territory, And you kind of go, well, you're actually

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<v Speaker 2>telling me how this works. You look at him saying well,

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<v Speaker 2>in days past. You look at Trump saying, well, in

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<v Speaker 2>day's past, nobody would have dared challenge Israel and they

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<v Speaker 2>had the strongest lobby and it's not like that anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a problem. And you kind of go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought your whole thing was America first. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just casts things in a very different light, and it

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<v Speaker 2>highlights the existence of a conflict that since the World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two narratives were spun up, has been hidden and

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<v Speaker 2>we've all had to pretend that it doesn't exist. But

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of now think that it's actually real. And

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't something that I want to believe, or this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't something that I'm happy about, but I am first

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost an analyst and have to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that's in front of me, and the evidence from

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<v Speaker 2>who runs Fox News to who runs CBS, to how

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<v Speaker 2>our narrative is being spun to who's APAC donating money

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<v Speaker 2>to to how this network is profiting from the Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>War or even profiting from Libya, for God's sake, and

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of go, well, Okay, maybe what I've been

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<v Speaker 2>trained to believe is not true is in fact true.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is not a conclusion that I'm happy with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to say, oh, this whole group

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<v Speaker 2>is bad or anything of that sort, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to point out that there is an oligarchy that

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<v Speaker 2>acts with a sense of ethnic solidarity, and that acts

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<v Speaker 2>in the interest of a certain country. And you're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to say it or notice it. But it's because

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<v Speaker 2>you're not allowed to say it or notice it that

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<v Speaker 2>it is important to notice it and to say it well.

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<v Speaker 4>And obviously you know, as adults, we understand that there

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<v Speaker 4>is a difference between an ethnic mafia and a member

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<v Speaker 4>of that ethnic group. Right just because the Gambino crime

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<v Speaker 4>family you know, runs your local casino, does not mean

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<v Speaker 4>the Italian family down the block is getting a cut.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't understand the Italian bus driver. It has had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the Italian baker. It has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the Italian whoever. But you can't speak

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cossa Austra without saying that it's Sicilian exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have found it harder and harder to maintain

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<v Speaker 4>that amount of distance simply due to the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>there are certain political figures acting beyond shamelessly right. Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you have Mark Levin, But I saw a post from

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<v Speaker 4>Randy Fine, allegedly a representative of the state of Florida,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not a part of Israel, where he had

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<v Speaker 4>taken Comane's name scratched off, you know, the first couple letters,

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<v Speaker 4>and again at the end so that it said Hayman,

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<v Speaker 4>and he basically said, you know, yet again, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have have saved ourselves, saved our people from a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, an evil Persian leader who uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sought to kill us several things. There won an interesting

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<v Speaker 4>use of the term us again as in an American

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<v Speaker 4>political leader. But also if we're talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the these terms that are weaponized tactically throughout my entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>And even before that, I was reliably informed that we

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<v Speaker 4>needed to have a separation of a church and state,

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<v Speaker 4>that using the religious principles of the people who founded

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<v Speaker 4>the nation that I live in was illegitimate, was unfair,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet many of these same people are more than

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<v Speaker 4>willing to invoke three thousand year old religious history to

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<v Speaker 4>push my entire nation into a war. Right that religion

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<v Speaker 4>does not need to be separated from our state. It

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<v Speaker 4>is to be honest, completely and totally infuriating. So I'm curious, fears,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is slightly outside the scope of what I

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<v Speaker 4>prepared you for, but nonetheless I'm curious to get your

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts on it. Tucker Carlson's special on the Iran War,

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<v Speaker 4>which came out yesterday, was quite interesting, and he raised

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<v Speaker 4>a point where he said, just because you speaking to

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<v Speaker 4>Israeli government and Benjamin et Yahoo want something, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>that it's actually good for you. And one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things I've been really confused about is seemingly decapitating the

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<v Speaker 4>Iranian regime blowing up four hundred other people right around

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<v Speaker 4>the Malas. It seems as if that would massively empower

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<v Speaker 4>the IRGC, who seemingly would be a much more competent

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<v Speaker 4>enemy to fight a more nationalist, more militarized government, more

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<v Speaker 4>dispersed certainly as well then, and I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 4>be rude here, but effectively, a aging sort of eighty

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<v Speaker 4>year old Muslim pope speaking inexactly, But how does that

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<v Speaker 4>actually help Israel because it seems as if they are

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<v Speaker 4>transferring power from admittedly someone they don't like for perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>irrational religious reasons, to a more capable, competent sort of

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you could call it a military junta.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is where these Radis are right, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>explain the enmity between Iran and Israel is a function

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<v Speaker 2>of the religiosity of the regime and arguably the religiosity

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<v Speaker 2>of the Iranian public, who, contrary to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the narratives, are not overwhelmingly atheist or whatever. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a decent chunk call it thirty percent, forty percent, twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have exact surveys here, who are loyal to

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<v Speaker 2>their government, and you see relatively high participation rates in

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian elections, usually in the sixty sometimes seventy percent range

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<v Speaker 2>participation in elections, meaning that a chunk of the public

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<v Speaker 2>does believe that their system is legitimate enough for them

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<v Speaker 2>to participate it. However, a look at Iran's location will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that they're surrounded by Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey,

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<v Speaker 2>which are three Sudney powers that are hostile to the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian Shia. Therefore, a more nationalist government might be more

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<v Speaker 2>pragmatic in that it would see Israel in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that the Shahs Israel. The Shah work quite closely

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<v Speaker 2>with the Israelis and is on record talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>extent of the power of the Jewish lobby in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. And he saw that his interests aligned with

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's because it meant that the Sudney Arabs would be

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<v Speaker 2>a more natural ally for the Israelis, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>one objective of this war, and it's a more natural

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<v Speaker 2>want Iran to be strong in the middle of these

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<v Speaker 2>Sudney powers in order to help contain them and constrain

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<v Speaker 2>their freedom of action. So that's the logic for one

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<v Speaker 2>need to get rid of the Iranian leadership. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, because of the defeat of Hezbalah in Lebamon,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of the damage inflicted on Iran in the

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve Day War, and because Ramenei was eighty seven years

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<v Speaker 2>old when he died, this transition to nationalism was probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen anyway. So this war was not really necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>In five years time, the natural evolution of Iran would

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<v Speaker 2>have led them to conclude the Turkey is the rising

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<v Speaker 2>power in the Middle East. Turkey is a big problem

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<v Speaker 2>for them in Iraq because Turkey is trying to take

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<v Speaker 2>over Iraq, just as it has taken over Syria. Obviously,

433
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<v Speaker 2>the Turks will have ambitions on parts of Lebanon, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the northern part that is predominantly sunny, and so the

435
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<v Speaker 2>Iranians would have evolved in this direction anyway if left

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<v Speaker 2>to their own devices. But the Israelis are not patient,

437
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and they see the threat from Turkey, and therefore they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to accelerate Iran's transition. So this is some of

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<v Speaker 2>the logic there. And the only reason that the Israelis

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<v Speaker 2>could act in this way is because of the extent

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00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of influence that their networks have over American policy makers

442
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>through blackmail by people like green Blat and Epstein, green

443
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<v Speaker 2>Blat being more focused on commercial blackmail, Epstein on the

444
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<v Speaker 2>more sordid kind through media through the rest of the oligarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's the picture there that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. And if the Iranian regime falls apart as

447
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<v Speaker 2>a result of this war and the IERGC does not

448
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<v Speaker 2>end up in control of Era, and subsequently then you

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<v Speaker 2>see the Turks expanding into northern Iraq and taking the

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<v Speaker 2>oil reserves that sit there and using that to solve

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest problem in the Turkish economy, which is their

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<v Speaker 2>reliance on oil imports and on energy imports. In general.

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Iraq has a huge amount of oil, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it is not developed. Syria is an oil producer,

455
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<v Speaker 2>but a minuscule one, largely because ninety something percent of

456
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<v Speaker 2>their territory is not explored for oil, and so the

457
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<v Speaker 2>Turks are set to receive this economic bonanza, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>them an even bigger problem. The issue here is that

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<v Speaker 2>if the Iran war is successful, the Israelis can then

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<v Speaker 2>steer you towards a war with Turkey at a time

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<v Speaker 2>when Europe has been flooded with migrants and where you have.

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<v Speaker 4>Many of them Turkish as well. Setting aside even the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that I mean, and sorry, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 4>interrupt you here, but the Turkey has deliberately used their

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you could say location is sort of a

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<v Speaker 4>gatekeeper to Europe to put pressure on Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Before yes, absolutely and the Sunneys in Europe, who are

468
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<v Speaker 2>now a huge population, are far more radical for the

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<v Speaker 2>taste of Middle Eastern governments than they would have tolerated,

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<v Speaker 2>like the kind of radicals that exist in Europe. If

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<v Speaker 2>they were in Egypt, they'd be getting tortured in the

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<v Speaker 2>Scorpion prison forever. And so essentially, the Turks have an

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<v Speaker 2>army inside Europe, and these Raelis are already saying that

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<v Speaker 2>Turkey is the next big threat and needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with because the fundamental problem with Israel is that

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00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it needs its neighbors to be unstable, weak, and fragmented.

477
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<v Speaker 2>This is why the Iraq War happened to break Iraq completely,

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<v Speaker 2>to fundamentally destroy it, because it had become a significant

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<v Speaker 2>military power. This is why Egypt is kept on such

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<v Speaker 2>a tight leash, because it is possible for Egypt to

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<v Speaker 2>become a threat to Israel. So you see the result

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<v Speaker 2>of Israeli policy is to create total chaos in the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle East. And the people who are paying for the

484
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<v Speaker 2>chaos are predominantly the Europeans, and the people who are

485
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<v Speaker 2>enabling this policy are the Americans. And you see how

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<v Speaker 2>that enablement is done through the Epstein files and through

487
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<v Speaker 2>the records of who's making donations to which politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. In addition, and I want to return to the

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<v Speaker 4>connections you mentioned between Epstein and Ukraine in a moment,

490
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<v Speaker 4>but you see this, this sort of influence operation extend.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean going back into the seventies and eighties as

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<v Speaker 4>regards particularly American religion, so particularly a lot of left

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<v Speaker 4>wing analysts, and when I say Europeans, I'm painting with

494
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 4>a very broad brush, but I will say Europeans will

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<v Speaker 4>make comments about American evangelicals. They will say this is

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<v Speaker 4>the reason. As an elite theorist, I think that that

497
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 4>is entirely backwards, because these are predominantly, let's be honest,

498
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.760
<v Speaker 4>poor states in the American South. The idea that these

499
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 4>states control the government is completely and totally absurd. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you go into books like the incredible Scofield and

501
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 4>his book, I think that's what it's called. What you

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00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 4>find out is that this Christian Zionism, which you see

503
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 4>even in figures like Mike Pompeo or Mike Huckabee, was artificial.

504
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 4>You have the LACUD party giving out millions of dollars,

505
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 4>giving out private jets, giving preferential access to religious figures

506
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 4>that would playball right, boosting them to create a astro

507
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 4>turfed public support for the allegedly secular nation of Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>And okay, sure that does not mean those people, the

509
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 4>parishioners on the ground control the government, right, But it

510
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 4>is yet another element, and if you want to go

511
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 4>into it, it is likely motivated by the exact same

512
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<v Speaker 4>things we see in the Epstein files, although I can't

513
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 4>entirely prove that, so that's pure conjecture. Look, this is

514
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 4>not a new thing, right, this has been decades in

515
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 4>the making. And to your point about who bears the costs,

516
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>certainly Western Europe does. The neo conservatives, the Zionists seem

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<v Speaker 4>to for some reason I can't quite figure out why

518
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>really really hate Western Europe and are more than willing

519
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 4>for both America and Europe to bear the consequences. One

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00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 4>of the things that is still murky, we're not entirely sure,

521
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 4>is that almost immediately after the war and Iran kicked off,

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<v Speaker 4>there were two very devastating terror attacks in America. One

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<v Speaker 4>of them was done by admittedly a West African fellow,

524
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<v Speaker 4>but someone who was wearing a sweatshirt that said the

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00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 4>property of Allah, which is still.

526
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>On the nose.

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00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 4>It's almost a little bit amusing, but still, you know,

528
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 4>twenty some people were wounded, for were killed, and allegedly

529
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 4>he was also carrying sort of Iranian propaganda. Was this

530
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 4>directly motivated? We don't know, but clearly right we you

531
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 4>are bearing the cost of this literally in my case,

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00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, as well as others, and as far as

533
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 4>the benefit, it's somewhat difficult to see, as you've said,

534
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<v Speaker 4>if the point is to move Iran into a more

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00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 4>nationalist direction. I mean, look like, I don't know what

536
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 4>the life expect to see of an eighty seven year

537
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 4>old man in Iran is, but I'm guessing it is

538
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 4>not to live to be much past eighty seven, is.

539
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<v Speaker 4>It's incredibly infuriating, especially when the messaging you're getting is

540
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:03.320
<v Speaker 4>that you are some sort of trader. You're not patriotic

541
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 4>if you object to this interaction, especially because many on

542
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 4>the conservative right in America were rightly ringing the alarm

543
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 4>bells about the situation Ukraine, where similarly we were supposed

544
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 4>to bankroll some foreign adventure. So you mentioned that there

545
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 4>were connections between Epstein and Ukraine. I'm curious if you

546
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<v Speaker 4>could go into.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Those So it seems that early on in his tenure,

548
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Zelenski met with Epstein and was receiving economic advice from

549
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Epstein and was getting advice, and the Ukrainians were getting

550
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>advice from Larry Sommers. Now Larry Sommers, because of his

551
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>past as a Secretary of the Treasury, is in fact

552
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 2>a credible person to get advice from. Fair enough, And

553
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<v Speaker 2>I think he was Treasury secretary under Clinton where for

554
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<v Speaker 2>the first time the United States had a surplus, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fair enough. But Larry Summers is a key

556
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 2>part of the Epstein network, Like he's there all the

557
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>time with Epstein, and it doesn't sound good at all.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm correct. He was actually heavily implicated in some

559
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<v Speaker 4>rather bizarre sexual activity. And didn't he have to step

560
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<v Speaker 4>down from his role at Harvard?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah he did, he did, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we're saying this, I just wanted to clarify

563
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<v Speaker 4>it's not just that they're sending emails back and forth

564
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<v Speaker 4>about the economy. He was interested in the most salacious

565
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<v Speaker 4>parts of Epstein. But sorry, fairies, Yes, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you have this like who introduced Epstein to

567
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<v Speaker 2>the President of Ukraine. I mean the President of Ukraine

568
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<v Speaker 2>is himself a creature of a Jewish Ukrainian oligarch accord

569
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<v Speaker 2>called Ihar Kolomoyski, who, among other things, owned a bank

570
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that I think was involved in some kind of massive

571
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>fraud and fined by the United States. And he was

572
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the main beneficiaries of the dissolution of the

573
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union where basically this huge bunch of oligarchs looted

574
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty much every industrial asset in the former Soviet Union

575
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>and to control over it and became the oligarchs. And

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00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>he also owned a television station, and on that television

577
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>station he had a show called Servant of the People

578
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>about a teacher who becomes the president of the Ukraine

579
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow and fixes their relationship with Russia and does all

580
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>kinds of wonderful things. The star of that show was

581
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 2>one of Vladimir Zelenski and used that show as a

582
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 2>springboard to actually become president, promising to fix the corruption

583
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and to deal with the oligarchs and to deal with

584
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the problem with Russia. And yireya. You had Russia today

585
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 2>publishing articles saying is Zelenski genuine about peace? Because they thought, hey,

586
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<v Speaker 2>maybe we can reach an accommodation with this man, even

587
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<v Speaker 2>though his patron, Kolomoyski, in his capacity as governor of

588
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<v Speaker 2>one of the regions of Ukraine, one of the Oblasts

589
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 2>forget I forget which one was literally funding the as

590
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of battalion who were Neo Nazis. And if you tell

591
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.599
<v Speaker 2>people there was a Jewish oligarch funding a neo Nazi

592
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>battalion against Russia, you sound insane, but it is true.

593
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 2>And you just have to sort of let that level

594
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of cynicism wash over you, over you and accept it.

595
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So Zelenski becomes president, having promised peace, and then ends

596
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<v Speaker 2>up ordering a campaign to clear out the dawnbas the

597
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>part of Ukraine that is predominantly Russian. I mean, there

598
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 2>are other parts of Ukraine that are predominantly Russian. And

599
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Zelenski himself is a native Russian speaker, not

600
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Ukrainian speaker, but anyway, and so this guy who comes

601
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere is meeting with the Epstein network. And

602
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>right after the twenty fourteen initial Russian invasion and the

603
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>capture of Crimea and the consolidation over Doneska and Luhansk

604
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 2>or parts of Duneska and Luhansk. You see Epstein emailing

605
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>ian A Rothschild talking to her about the massive opportunities

606
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that exist in Ukraine and you kind of go, well,

607
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<v Speaker 2>hold on a second, how are you connected to Zelenski?

608
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<v Speaker 2>And I understand that everybody wants to trade when big

609
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>geopolitical events happen, but what private information do you end

610
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<v Speaker 2>up getting that allows you to do that? And then

611
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<v Speaker 2>you see him interacting with the EPSTEIN, the European Bank

612
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 2>of Reconstruction and Development and talking to them about agribusinesses

613
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>in Ukraine that he could benefit from and relaying that

614
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>message to other parts of the network. Basically, this is

615
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<v Speaker 2>a good investment. Get into it. And to put that

616
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<v Speaker 2>in context, it was the source andngos that led the

617
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<v Speaker 2>Maidan uprising, and it was the Neo Nazis funded by

618
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Kolamoyski that were responsible for the shootings in the Maidan uprising.

619
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<v Speaker 2>And you get Epstein talking to Rothschild about profiting from

620
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the escalation. But now you also get Larry Fink's Blackrock

621
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<v Speaker 2>figuring out how, in partnership with Donald Trump, they can

622
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>basically asset strip Ukraine to make it pay for its

623
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<v Speaker 2>debts and pay for the war each of these is

624
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<v Speaker 2>a separate network, like the Sordus network is separate from

625
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the Epstein network, is separate from the Larry Fink network.

626
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<v Speaker 2>But you see them acting not visibly in concerts because

627
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>we can't prove that, but essentially practically in concerts. And

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<v Speaker 2>who's losing American taxpayers, European taxpayers, Ukrainians who are getting drafted,

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<v Speaker 2>Russians who are being sent to the front line. I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>If you were in exactly if you were in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>business school, right, if you were nineteen and your professor

632
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<v Speaker 4>was asking for an example of a cartel, right, yeah, negative,

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<v Speaker 4>This is exactly what you would do. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what you would describe.

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally textbook manipulation. And I think perhaps one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best examples, and I've heard you mentioned this before, is

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<v Speaker 4>what Pete Mandelson was up to. You see this the

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<v Speaker 4>I mean genuinely shocking. And I've been covering Epstein for

640
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<v Speaker 4>a long time. I like to think that I am

641
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<v Speaker 4>aware of the scope of international corruption, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>see something like Mandleson, which is shocking, right, especially for

643
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<v Speaker 4>a man who it was was, you know, involved in

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<v Speaker 4>removing the death penalty for treason. Well, I won't speculate

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<v Speaker 4>as to why he did that, but I'm curious, could

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<v Speaker 4>you dig into you know, Mandelssohn and you know his

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<v Speaker 4>shall we say, alleged financial misconduct.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mandelsson, you can't separate him from George Osborne, and

649
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<v Speaker 2>George Osborne used to be the Chancellor of the Extecure

650
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<v Speaker 2>under the Tories, the enemy party of Labor. They are

651
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<v Speaker 2>both Jewish. Now though basically Mandelssohn's rise was largely engineered,

652
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<v Speaker 2>and a big part of his rise was that early

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<v Speaker 2>on in the Labor Party he gained control of something

654
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<v Speaker 2>I think called Promise, which was essentially a database of

655
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<v Speaker 2>all of the black mailable material on the Labor Party,

656
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<v Speaker 2>and he used that in partnership with Tony Blair, the

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<v Speaker 2>future Prime Minister of Britain, in nineteen ninety seven until

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine or ten, I believe two thousand

659
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<v Speaker 2>and nine, I believe, to re engineer the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>away from being a worker's party into being a big

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<v Speaker 2>business party. That was a big part of Mandolsson's role,

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<v Speaker 2>and for those years Peter Mandelson was essentially the number

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<v Speaker 2>three in the British government. It was him and Alistair

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell and Alistair Darling and Gordon Brown and Tony Blair,

665
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<v Speaker 2>who were the leading figures in all of this. So

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<v Speaker 2>this guy literally used a ton of blackmail material to

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<v Speaker 2>control the Labor Party. One of his heirs was a

668
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 2>guy called Morgan McSweeney who ends up becoming the chief

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<v Speaker 2>of staff to the current Prime Minister, who had lived

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<v Speaker 2>on a Kipputz for six months in the nineties, who's

671
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<v Speaker 2>a very talented man, very capable guy, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>until recently in charge of running the actual Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>of Britain. During his time in office, Peter Mandelsson was

674
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<v Speaker 2>basically leaking all kinds of state secrets with enormous financial

675
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<v Speaker 2>implications to Jeffrey Epstein on everything from the British government

676
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>planning to sell assets in order to fix his debt problem,

677
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<v Speaker 2>to decisions about the bailous of the banking sector and

678
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<v Speaker 2>things of that nature, in addition to having all kinds

679
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<v Speaker 2>of perverted emails that were being kicked around between him

680
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 2>and Gilen Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. So a member of

681
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<v Speaker 2>that network was the number three guy in the British

682
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 2>government and was literally giving state secrets to Epstein and

683
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Epstein ended up giving a bunch of money to Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Mandelson's quote unquote husband in order to help him set

685
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<v Speaker 2>up I can some kind of alternative therapy thing that

686
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<v Speaker 2>that he was getting involved in. And him as well

687
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<v Speaker 2>as Peter Madison, as well as George Osborne were also

688
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 2>involved with a Russian Jewish oligarch called the der Prisca

689
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<v Speaker 2>or de Prisca, and where on his yacht at a

690
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<v Speaker 2>time whee when Peter Madison was meeting with of all people,

691
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<v Speaker 2>say for Islam and Gaddaffi, the son of the late

692
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Libyan dictator Mohammed Gaddafi. So the number three man in

693
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<v Speaker 2>the British government was part of the Epstein network. And

694
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<v Speaker 2>this didn't stop because the guy he groomed ended up

695
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<v Speaker 2>managing Keir Starmer, who was currently the Prime Minister of Britain.

696
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<v Speaker 2>And then you have to wonder who were who was

697
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<v Speaker 2>somebody like George Osborne working with and what network was

698
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<v Speaker 2>he part of. There's no evidence that he was involved

699
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<v Speaker 2>in the same stuff. He was just on various billionaires

700
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 2>yachts and holidaying with Mandelssohn and things like things like that.

701
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<v Speaker 2>But he's there and now with a reform party that

702
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<v Speaker 2>is poised to take over as the next ruling party

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<v Speaker 2>in Britain according to current polling. Their main economics guy

704
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<v Speaker 2>is Robert Jenrick. Robert Jenerck is emailing Peter is emailing

705
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<v Speaker 2>George Osborne to ask him whether or not Osborne approves

706
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<v Speaker 2>of his economic plans. These were the same like Osborne's

707
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>economic plans were mainly austerity, meaning that the police was

708
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<v Speaker 2>stripped bare and now you have a stabbing every day

709
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 2>in random part of Britain that have never had these

710
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stabbings. The border force was weakened, every single

711
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<v Speaker 2>state institution was weakened with budget cuts to sort of

712
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>bring Britain to the brink of collapse in the name

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<v Speaker 2>of serving the interests of the financial markets and making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that the financial markets approve. And it's these guys

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<v Speaker 2>who were in charge under Blair, they were in charge

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<v Speaker 2>under the Conservatives, they're in charge now under clear Starmer,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're poised to be in charge in the future

718
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<v Speaker 2>if Nigel fire Arsh becomes Prime Minister. And then you

719
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 2>get the impression that what you have is a permanent

720
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<v Speaker 2>state run by these financial networks working primarily for the

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<v Speaker 2>approval of the financial markets and completely unaffected by elections.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in the case of the US, it's the exact

723
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<v Speaker 4>same thing. Obviously you have this is kind of a

724
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<v Speaker 4>network of financiers. But also obviously you have Bill Clinton,

725
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<v Speaker 4>who is conspicuously mentioned. I'll put it that way. You have,

726
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, the ties to the Bush family. I mean, again,

727
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<v Speaker 4>if we're talking about stuff that is in the Epstein

728
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 4>files but makes you sound like a crazy person, simply

729
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 4>look at Epstein's collection of presidential portraits. That's weird, right,

730
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 4>he has you know, Bill Clinton in a dress and

731
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<v Speaker 4>George W. Bush with a fighborhood lane and yeah, of course,

732
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<v Speaker 4>just something you would do. But also, right, Obama's White

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<v Speaker 4>House Council I can't remember her name, but she was

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<v Speaker 4>heavily implicated.

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<v Speaker 2>And was facilitating the deal between the Rothschilds and the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Treasury to get them off some kind of

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00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 2>fine or tax bill. She was the one who was

738
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<v Speaker 2>arranging that. And in exchange for fixing this, Epstein gets

739
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty five million dollars. And so you kind of go, okay,

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00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it is continuous across all the administrations. Like casting it

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00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>as a Republican thing or a Democrat thing is stupid.

742
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<v Speaker 2>It makes absolutely no difference because money talks. And the

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00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 2>fundamental problem that you have is that you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a public aristocracy. In a public aristocracy where people know

745
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>who you are and that you are actually a man

746
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of immense power and influence over the government. Being known

747
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 2>is a way of holding you accountable, and you're held

748
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.519
<v Speaker 2>accountable based on your title and your status. What you

749
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>have now is a invisible migratory financial oligarchy. Gilenn Maxwell

750
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<v Speaker 2>is supposedly British, but she's operating mainly in the United

751
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<v Speaker 2>States as well as obviously in Britain. And it makes

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<v Speaker 2>no difference which country has economic opportunities. It really makes

753
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<v Speaker 2>no difference because these people stay rich and it is

754
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<v Speaker 2>completely anonymous. Nobody wakes up and says, what did Larry

755
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<v Speaker 2>Ellison say on the news? But Larry Ellison probably has

756
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>more power than I don't know Pete Hexath, but it's

757
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Pete Heexath with the title and the public profile, and

758
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Larry Ellison does his own thing quietly to his heart's content.

759
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<v Speaker 2>So the nature of the relationship between the governing and

760
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the government is broken because a big part of it

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<v Speaker 2>relies in a traditional monarchic system with an aristocracy on

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<v Speaker 2>the people in power being public and known, at least

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<v Speaker 2>in their own regions. You have your own local feudal

764
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<v Speaker 2>lord and you know who it is, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>who the guy above him is, and you know who

766
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<v Speaker 2>the king is, and you have as a result, recourse,

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00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 2>and there is an expectation of the role of the

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00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:41.119
<v Speaker 2>nobility and what they should be doing, whereas in the

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<v Speaker 2>system on the civil service side, all of the political

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<v Speaker 2>appointees are transient, meaning that the civil service can do

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00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell at once, meaning that what they will

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<v Speaker 2>prioritize is how to make money after they retire from

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<v Speaker 2>the civil service. And on the oligarchic sid the oligarchy

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00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is largely invisible. Nobody is thinking about what Ronald Lauder

775
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 2>is saying, nobody cares, but in reality, through his political donations,

776
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 2>he wields an insane amount of political influence. So the

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<v Speaker 2>institutions are set up the wrong way because what they

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00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:29.599
<v Speaker 2>give is power to the oligarchy, but responsibility for the

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00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 2>elected politicians who do not in fact end up with

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00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 2>power because on the one side they're controlled by the

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00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 2>donors and on the other side they are constrained by

782
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the civil service. And that's why you end up with

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<v Speaker 2>precisely the system where you feel that absolutely nobody is

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<v Speaker 2>in charge, and you vote, and you vote and you

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<v Speaker 2>vote and nothing changes.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, And I think that this this dovetails quite nicely

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<v Speaker 4>with Curtis Jarvin's idea of a formalism, right, the idea

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00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 4>that you know, there should be it should be easily parsible,

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00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.599
<v Speaker 4>easily understandable who is in charge, right, who makes the decision.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's especially frustrating because you know many of the

791
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 4>people who are you know currently you know, all in

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<v Speaker 4>for this war with Iran. We're accurately pointing out that

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<v Speaker 4>this this sort of formal power does not exist domestically

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00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 4>as regards the American judiciary, right, the president, the elected leader,

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<v Speaker 4>the ostensible man in charge of the most powerful country

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00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 4>in the world. It's actually not sovereign because some judge

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<v Speaker 4>you've never heard of, who was born in Nigeria in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of nowhere decides that is illegitimate. It cannot

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<v Speaker 4>stand so fair enough, we understand that in one aspect,

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<v Speaker 4>but on the foreign policy stage that is even more true,

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<v Speaker 4>as perhaps inadvertently revealed by Marco Rubio again, who I

802
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 4>don't particularly like, but I'll give them credit for saying

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00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 4>that it's incredibly baffling, right, it's incredibly frustrating, And to

804
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.840
<v Speaker 4>watch that story get pulled into kind of this cheap

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00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 4>partisan who was mentioned more? Oh well, Democrats were mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred and two times. We were only mentioned two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty nine times. Is I mean, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say it's unexpected, but it is depressing, nonetheless so furious.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious as we come up on time, is there

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<v Speaker 4>anything you'd just like to say in conclusion?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, in a very real sense, it is

812
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.519
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual war. And in a very real sense, when

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<v Speaker 2>you see people like the Pritzkers involved in the skyd

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<v Speaker 2>of network and having zero concert quences as a result,

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<v Speaker 2>when you see that the resignations have been for people

816
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 2>who don't really matter that much, and that the influence

817
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:13.599
<v Speaker 2>of that money hasn't been cut, you realize that, well,

818
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you can't fix this except with individual integrity. You need

819
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:23.039
<v Speaker 2>to have people who are willing to speak up, who

820
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 2>have courage and fortitude, who are able to say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to take their money, which was initially that

822
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<v Speaker 2>Trump promise, if you'll remember, and who will say honestly, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to push things that I think are

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<v Speaker 2>religiously right. I am going to push things that are Christian,

825
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and I am going to push things that are good

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01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.760
<v Speaker 2>for my nation because this is what my responsibility is.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people who I owe something. And we

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<v Speaker 2>live in this world where everybody's supposed to be an

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01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 2>atomized individual, but this is fundamentally not real. You are

830
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.800
<v Speaker 2>not just an individual. You are part of your own network.

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<v Speaker 2>Your network is your family and your church and your community.

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<v Speaker 2>And unless those are strengthened and genuinely become powerful, you

833
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.119
<v Speaker 2>are not going to be able to generate the people

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<v Speaker 2>with the fortitude and the love of justice and the

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom who can actually say no to financial influence and

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<v Speaker 2>to intimidation. So if there is one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't discussed, it's the role of religion in this. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about ethnic solidarity because we hate these people,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, we hate group X or dislike group Y.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because the way policy is run is fundamentally immoral.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is a natural consequence of society losing faith

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<v Speaker 2>and becoming immoral. So at the individual level, you have

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<v Speaker 2>your own cross to bear, and part of that is

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<v Speaker 2>having faith and behaving correctly so that you will end

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<v Speaker 2>up with people leading you who behave in the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>and it could be you being the leader.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this very much reminds me of the famous essay

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<v Speaker 4>by C. S. Lewis Men without Chests, Right, yes, he

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<v Speaker 4>talks about how what happens first is this sort of

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<v Speaker 4>denial of the transcendent, this denial of one could say

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<v Speaker 4>it is spiritual or the theological. And the essay is

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<v Speaker 4>amusingly enough written in response to a children's textbook. Right

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<v Speaker 4>he was a famous publisher. People sent him review copies

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, and the the inciting incident was sort

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<v Speaker 4>of a grammar exercise where students were asked to dissect,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a passage written about a waterfall and it

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<v Speaker 4>used sort of flowery language, and the you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>writers of the textbook were basically saying like, no, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's all nonsense, that's all horrible. You can't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not objective, and going off on that point, Lewis

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<v Speaker 4>says like, no, you need that. You need to instill

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<v Speaker 4>into young people a belief in the transcendent, a belief

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<v Speaker 4>in something more than what you can touch and what

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<v Speaker 4>you can feel. And he expounds on that to say, like,

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<v Speaker 4>look like that extended is the thing that motivates people

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<v Speaker 4>to run into a burning building to save a child,

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<v Speaker 4>because objectively, there's there's no reason you should do that

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<v Speaker 4>if it's not your child, right, it could harm your

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<v Speaker 4>ability to accomplish your biological goal. The kind of cold,

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<v Speaker 4>hard rational point of view as a as an individual.

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<v Speaker 4>And he has this great point where he's talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the future and he says, well, if this, this system

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<v Speaker 4>of belief goes on checks, you know, we will soon

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<v Speaker 4>live in a world where, you know, where police do

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<v Speaker 4>not respond to two crimes, where they care more about

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<v Speaker 4>preserving themselves than they do about the lives of the innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, written in the fifties, it was quite far sighted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you look at you know, the Uvaldi shooting or

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<v Speaker 4>any number of cases in your country fears, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he has this line he says, you might as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we have created geldings and we bid

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<v Speaker 4>them to bear fruit. And I think that's a large

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<v Speaker 4>part of this that effectively we have been coasting on

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<v Speaker 4>the fumes of a society that believed in things, a

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<v Speaker 4>society that had transcendent claim about the purpose of what

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<v Speaker 4>your end goal as a man was, with the purpose

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01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.559
<v Speaker 4>of society was. And as that's gone away, the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of innate corruption of humanity has flowered. Right, things that

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01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 4>people have always done, you know, done nasty things, traded

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01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.519
<v Speaker 4>insider secrets. But if you've convinced a group of people

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01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 4>that your life is all there is that your personal enrichment,

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01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.920
<v Speaker 4>the amount of you know, serotonin you can ingest in

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<v Speaker 4>your life, it's the only purpose of your existence. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's no shock that we see this, this sort of behavior,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's one more thing and then we can wrap

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<v Speaker 4>it up. But doing a long series, which is atypical

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<v Speaker 4>for me, on the occult and on these sort of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, occult killings and these kind of occult rings,

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<v Speaker 4>not for the purpose of being you know, salacious, not

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01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 4>for the purpose of building a wide audience, but because

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<v Speaker 4>and this has been justified by these Epstein files as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Very clearly these people believe in evil, right, they believe

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<v Speaker 4>in some form of spirituality, and they're powerful, ostensibly serious people.

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<v Speaker 4>If they do, why don't you to be perfectly blunt

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Curious, I'm curious to get your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>On that more than that. Everybody likes to speak about

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<v Speaker 2>the problem of evil and how the problem of evil

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<v Speaker 2>discredits the idea of a benevolent deity, But it's the

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<v Speaker 2>other way around. It's the problem of good that you

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01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.760
<v Speaker 2>should think about. If you want to be good and

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<v Speaker 2>object to evil, you need a rock to stand on,

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<v Speaker 2>and that rock is the Christian faith. With all of

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<v Speaker 2>the faults of Christian leaders, with all of the faults

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<v Speaker 2>of people around you, there is no answer to the

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<v Speaker 2>problem of evil except by realizing that there is also

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<v Speaker 2>a problem of good, that this good in life comes

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<v Speaker 2>from God, and that you owe God something, You owe

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<v Speaker 2>God everything. When you see the world in its true beauty,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you see human beings in their true potential

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<v Speaker 2>and you understand how broken they are from the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of faith, you realize that you need to love the

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<v Speaker 2>people around you. And we all do it imperfectly, including myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't for a second claim that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a good person. But you have to see that good,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to try to see it in others,

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<v Speaker 2>even nasty people like the ones that we are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to speak about, And you have to seek that good

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<v Speaker 2>within yourself so that you can do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you don't have a sense of good within yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>then why shouldn't you be corrupted? Why shouldn't you accept

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<v Speaker 2>the offer of, you know, being with the fancy people

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<v Speaker 2>and doing the nasty things that they do and enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>life the way they do, but selling your soul. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's about us finding our own commitment to the divine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about us being genuine in our choice of faith,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about us realizing that faith is a covenant

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<v Speaker 2>and a choice. You have to do your part. Abraham

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<v Speaker 2>is asked to do all kinds of insanely difficult things,

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<v Speaker 2>and what he receives for it is that his seed

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<v Speaker 2>down the line will become a great nation. But his

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<v Speaker 2>own life one challenge after the other, one misery after

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<v Speaker 2>the other, one sacrifice after the other. So we have

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<v Speaker 2>to be we have to be open to good if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to combat evil. And it's not enough just

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<v Speaker 2>to rail against it. You have to fix yourself as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't try to fix yourself, it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. It just isn't going to happen. So

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<v Speaker 2>start with yourself. Carry your own cross first. See the

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<v Speaker 2>beam in your own eye, and if we all do that,

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<v Speaker 2>we get a Christian hydrust society. But a high trust

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<v Speaker 2>society can be broken by one individual breaking behaving badly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a breach of trust. And so if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to recover this hy trust society where you're not governed

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<v Speaker 2>by a rotten, immoral, degenerate, lustful oligarchy, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>start with yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>For this has been a fascinating discussion. If people want

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<v Speaker 4>to find more of you, where can they do so?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Thank you. You can find me on madagiopolitics dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I write my political analysis. I have another

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<v Speaker 2>blog called lovedianemy dot net which I'm not actually called

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<v Speaker 2>convert or die dot net sorry, which I'm not writing

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<v Speaker 2>on very often these days, but I will and you

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<v Speaker 2>can find me on x at firasmo Dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, again, this has been been fascinating. I will have

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<v Speaker 4>to have you on again soon. As far as my stuff,

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