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Speaker 1: All right, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Hey, come on, this is Dark Abuse No More with

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your host doctor evangelist.

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Speaker 3: Hey are rich help you.

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Speaker 2: To admit what you feel in order genial from the

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effects of narcissistic abuse because your fillies do matter. Hi,

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y'all doing out there on this Monday, February the ninth

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of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: I pray that you have had a blessed stress free,

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narcissistic free, abuse free weeks so far, and that the

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remainder of this week will continue to be so as well.

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But if not, we're gonna be talking about.

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Speaker 3: A few things today again. My name is doctor Ko

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Richard Ark Abuse No More. Where we're here to help

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you admit what you feel in order to heal from

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the effects of narcissistic abuse, because your feelings do matter,

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Yes they do. But before we go on with today's podcast,

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I would like to invite you to visit us on

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our website at www dot rc n A RC Abuse

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No More dot net. That's www dot norc NA r

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C Abuse No More dot net. And on our website

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you can find valuable information we go on narcissism. We're

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actually gonna be updating that website and.

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Speaker 4: Putting some more things on there to help you on

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your road to recovery.

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Speaker 3: Just to let you know.

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Speaker 4: On every money dy Wednesday Friday, ten am Eastern Standard time,

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Speaker 3: Now what are we talking about today?

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Speaker 4: We are talking about going no contact or low contact

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with the narcissists, going no contact with the narcissists, and

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sometimes you are in that position where you have to

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say enough is enough. I'm either gonna go low contact

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or no contact because being around this person is like

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my kryptonite. Okay, we know that if you think about

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the series of Superman, the movies or the series different

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series they've had.

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Speaker 3: Superman was allergic to kryptonite.

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Speaker 4: So this green stuff that was from his planet, and

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if he got in the presence of kryptonite.

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Speaker 3: Then all his powers would just he was not able.

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Speaker 4: He would not be able to use them effectively because

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he was around this kryptonite which was damaging to him.

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And so therefore Superman was not able to be around

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any kryptonite. He would actually have to which he drew

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his power from the Sun, and so he will actually

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have to go to the Sun in order to be

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restored because his kryptonite, that kryptonite actually damaged him. And

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so it's the same way when you're dealing with narcissists,

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they're like your kryptonite, okay, they it could be destabilizing, dehabilitating.

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They put you in the mindset where you're not able

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to be your best. And when someone is taking away

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your peace, regardless of who they are, if they're taking

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away your peace, then you might have to make some

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other changes, some other decisions. So we don't talk about

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you know, when if it's time or when or do

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you think it's time to go no contact?

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Speaker 3: When should you go no contact?

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Speaker 4: If this is you A part of going on time

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contact with the narcissists is its challenging.

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Speaker 3: It's challenging.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to escape the abuse, and by cutting off

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all communication. So when you're going absolutely no contact, that

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means you're not taking any phone calls, you're not checking

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their social media status, you're actually gonna probably block them

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on social media. You avoid in person contact with the

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individual in order to stop that emotional manipulation, devaluation, the

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constant verbal abuse, the psychological abuse, whatever type of abuse

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you're dealing with. You stop being their sense of supply

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and therefore you you unplug yourself from them, and that

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means you're going totally no contact with this person. Now,

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some people have to go low contact because they're not able.

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Speaker 3: To totally disconnect.

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Speaker 4: It might be chill, so you may have made the

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step of moving out or filing for divorce or disconnecting

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as much as you can from the person. But if

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you have children, it's harder to go totally no contact,

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so you might have to modify to go low contact.

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You might be in the family where you know certain

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individuals you're okay with, but then others you're not. So

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you go low or no contact with certain individuals and

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a family until it's absolutely necessary to have to be

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around them. And even then you have an arm's length

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because you have to protect your peace. So what to expect.

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What challenges do you face when you're going no contact. Basically,

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it's the it's the initial reaction with this and this

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is coming from common ego we're talking about for these

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challenges that you might be dealing with with going no contact.

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Narcissists they they believe that you're eventually gonna return to them.

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it's not that they're gonna treat you better. It's not

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that they're gonna make a change, but their their reaction

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is is actually to ignore the that you've gone no

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contact or have broken off the relationship, believing that you're

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gonna come back, that you're gonna return, and so therefore

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they sometime we're in disbelief that you've even left the situation,

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because if you're the person that normally returns and you don't,

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then they're, you know, kind of bewildered as to, uh, well,

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what's going on that you have finally said I've had enough,

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I'm not gonna accept the abuse anymore. Another thing that

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you might expect, or some challenges that you might have

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is hoovering. They like to manipulate you into getting back

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to that relationship. So you might be one of the

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ones that, for example, if you were dealing with physical

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abuse and that person beats you to a pulpe and

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then you decide to leave, and then they come back

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sending you flowers or chocolates, or or trying to be

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super nice, or or using mutual friends to try to

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send monkey They send monkeys, but actually actually the flying

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monkeys there are the flying monkeys that do, the narciss

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is bidding, and so they'll use people that you all

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are mutually acquainted with in order to even send you

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messages and things pretending that they're sorry. And it's a

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form of manipulation to try to get you sucked back

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in like a hoof for a hoover vacuum. That's what

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it's called hoovering, to suck you back in so that

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they can start the abuse all over again. Another thing,

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when you're dealing with no one would take spect when

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narcissistic injury. This means that when you cut them off,

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then you're actually injuring their ego, and so they can

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become angry or violent or do other things to try

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to again get you back into their graces to regain

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your attention because you have cut them off. Because at

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the end of the day, the narcissists is all about

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power and control, and so therefore they don't want to

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lose power. They don't want to lose control, and so

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therefore they when you cut them off, then in their

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mind to their ego, you've given them an injury.

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Speaker 3: Another thing is the silent phase.

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Speaker 4: You might feel grief or guilt because society says that

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you are supposed to be in relationship with this individual.

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Speaker 3: What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 4: It could be a family member that you decide to

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go no contact with, and so society says that you're

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supposed to get along with your family men.

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Speaker 3: Normally you do.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is is that when you're dealing with

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a toxic individual, a narcissistic individual, an abusive situation that

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you're in with this individual, then.

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Speaker 3: You have to decide is this healthy for me?

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Speaker 4: And even though you may love that person, the thing

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is is that in order to have your peace of mind,

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you may have to say, you know what I have

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to do what I have to do in order to

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maintain my piece. And so therefore you might be in

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that silent phase where you're saying, I can't be around

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this person or the narcissists might be the silent treat

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me because you cut them off as well.

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Speaker 3: But hey, who cares if as.

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Speaker 4: Long as you're having your peace When you go in

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no contact, that means that when you're and this is

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quite different from low contact, no contact means that I'm

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not giving them any type of response rather positive or negative,

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because if you are, then that's giving them still power

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over you. So when you're going no contact, that means

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that I could cure less what they do. They can

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be in the middle of the yard in their birthday

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suit and you would not care. Okay, So as long

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as it's not affecting your peace.

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Speaker 3: Now, when you go.

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Speaker 4: Low contact, that means that I'm a I'm limiting to

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my contact with them, for it has to be professional,

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or it has to be just the bare minimum because

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I have to maybe for the sake of the kids,

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for example, and so therefore I'm dropping them off.

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Speaker 3: Or we have a common.

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Speaker 4: Meeting place where we change you know, kids, the kids

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and everything, swap swap them out for the weekend or whatever.

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And my only contact with you is just that particular interaction.

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So it's very modified, very limited when you're going low contact. Okay,

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So we're gonna talk about some more about how to

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implement going no contact now, but we're gonna take a

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quick break and we'll be back in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 5: Before I knew your name, God already wrote a story.

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Speaker 1: Two hearts learning grades.

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Speaker 6: Wading on this glory, I wasn't walking.

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Speaker 7: In the question, You were praying, and Heaven whispered softly.

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Speaker 1: Soon I join you the heart.

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Speaker 8: Every season the reason accurancy, But the moment I found.

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Speaker 1: You, it all made.

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Speaker 9: Says to me, two souls for one perse altogether By's hand,

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working near his promise, trust the nearest, perfect plan.

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Speaker 1: Through the high and heard him. He kept leading me.

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Two souls, one purse made for world.

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Speaker 10: God called us too.

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Speaker 8: All the lessons are the way, shape the way we

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love today.

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Speaker 3: And he refines through the footy.

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Speaker 1: Now we love in Christ.

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Speaker 3: Ready, O, you're the answer to a prayer.

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Speaker 9: Then never knew how to pray, but God knew my

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heart's desire, and.

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Speaker 1: He brought you anywhere. Everything every son said was preparing

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me for this.

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Speaker 11: Now sees Spain the Prince never are rexist.

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Speaker 1: Two souls, one purpose, got together by head dude.

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Speaker 11: Brocking mens bronch, trusting gains paper, playing.

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Speaker 1: The hyes, and the leading me m hm.

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Speaker 5: And before I'm doing name, God already wrote a story.

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Two hot learning graves weeding.

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Speaker 10: On his glory.

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Speaker 7: I was walking in the choir, you were praying in

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the dark. In heaven whispered softly. Soon I'll join.

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Speaker 1: The heart, every stand, every seas and hatteries and occun see.

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Speaker 10: But the mom and I found you. It all made

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sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Two souls, one.

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Speaker 7: Purse, held together by his head, walking in his promise,

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trusting his.

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Speaker 1: Perfect plan through the highes and her.

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Speaker 10: He kept leading me. Two souls, one perse before work, God,

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come us to.

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Speaker 5: All the lessons, all the way he waited, shape the

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way we love today He refine us through the fire.

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Speaker 1: Now we love in Christmas.

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Speaker 9: You're the astute, afraid that I never knew how to praise.

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But come you, my host decide and he brought you

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in anyway. Let me cheer very signs said.

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Speaker 1: Mis prepareing meets now sees being to prince in never mind.

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We two souls, one perse health again, boy's hand can

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walking instants in interesting, he sperfect playing war on the

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Speaker 10: Me.

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Speaker 1: Two souls, one pers maple. The God calls us to

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and not perfect dis means indeed come up.

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Speaker 11: To every call, not strong, and he's a stranger every

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time we start to fall, so as a loud past boot.

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Speaker 1: Then lady child, that's the pervy side. Two songs, one

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persons forever.

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Speaker 5: Standing in its graces every way side trust in a word,

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we can get trace the.

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Speaker 1: Hand in hand we rased again shows thank God chose you.

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Speaker 3: Two souls, one purpose. All right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why it started over again, but anyway,

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that is a beautiful song.

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Speaker 4: All right, So we're talking about going no contact with

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the narcissist. So how do you implement going no contact

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with the narcissist? If that's what you decide to do,

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that's gonna work for you.

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Speaker 3: How do you do that?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 4: Number one, you block everything. You blocked phone, numbers, emails,

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all social profiles. You gotta create you a new one.

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Speaker 3: Then do that.

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Speaker 4: You gotta watch who you invite to your page because

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y'all got some friends in common or whatever.

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Speaker 10: Do that.

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Speaker 4: You gotta block everything, So you act like you blocking

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a bill collector, block their number, block their email.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying saying I am done, okay. Number two,

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do not respond. That means that any attempts to message you,

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letter you, snail mail you, whatever.

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Speaker 4: Apologies and all that you don't want to engage because

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you don't want to reinforce the behavior.

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Speaker 3: That means I'm not gonna read the text messages. I'm

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gonna block them. Immediately. I'm not gonna read anything on

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my social media that they send to me. I'm gonna

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block it immediately.

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Speaker 4: If someone come and say, oh, well he no, oh

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she got no, I don't want to hear nothing. And

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if you have to dismiss some people because they don't

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want to respect your boundaries, then you have to do

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Speaker 3: Number three, remove any flying monkeys, and that's what we're

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talking about. Limit communication with those who are actively spying

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on or spying for the narcissists, or who acts like

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messages to go back and report things to the narcissists. Okay,

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so limit the communication with those who.

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Speaker 4: Are gonna keep you still tied in with that narcissist,

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and that means those flying monkeys. Number four secure your

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physical space. That means that sometimes when people leave an

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abusive relationship and that person is really.

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Speaker 3: That narcissists is not wanting to let go, then you

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very much.

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Speaker 4: That's why we always say leave as safely as possible.

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Let those who you can trust know, hey, your routine

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or are your job, or to check in on you,

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or if they haven't heard from you in a while.

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Speaker 3: Keep a backup phone just in case something happens.

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Speaker 4: Watch your surroundings, especially at night, but even in the daytime,

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because folks get in bold they do stuff in the

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daytime too.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you have security cameras.

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Speaker 4: On your property, your door, your apartment, make sure it's

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very much sealed where someone can't just kick it down

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or whatever. If that includes if you need to put reinforcements.

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And this is not being paranoid. If you got people

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out here that are killing folks, if some kill you

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just because you don't want to be with them, so

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protect yourself.

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Speaker 3: Seek support.

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Speaker 4: That means that when you're trying to implement no contact,

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you might need to talk to a counselor or therapist.

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You might need to talk to someone and maybe join

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a social group to help you maintain those boundaries. Someone

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that's gonna help you emotionally, to uplift your spirits. Be

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around people who are going to support you.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to get into another abusive situation now.

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If you have children and you're forced to interact with

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this person, or you're on a workplace, you.

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Speaker 3: Can do.

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Speaker 4: Basically, Gray Rock, And what that means is, I have

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this mindset, I'm neither here nor there with that person.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna engage.

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Speaker 4: I'm just dealing with you only because I have to,

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and I'm limiting everything I say, so I'm just gonna

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be like a rock. I'm not gonna show any emotion

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or anything with regards to this individual. If you all

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have a mutual place where you meet to trade the

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kids off, then you just do that and get back

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in your car. Don't if you're saying that I don't

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want to deal with them, only if there's an emergency

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about the kids.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, if you're with the.

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Speaker 4: Kids and you know your kids are safe, and they

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call and they because they'll use the kids to try

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to do that as well, So be mindful of that

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as well.

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Speaker 3: And this is where talking to a counselor can help you. Also.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take another quick break and we'll

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be back in just a moment.

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Speaker 6: I was walking with questions in my chest, trying to

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know that I made up mass pray for peace, didn't

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know her name, didn't know you were.

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Speaker 12: Arranging every frame, how I was learning patience the hard way.

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Then your press lord, letting me change. Then you use

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that to quietly turned my broken hope. Then asserting tea.

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I was asking you for clarity. You were beauty for

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a character patiently.

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Speaker 1: I was wayed and thinking I.

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Speaker 8: Was laid, But Heaven was already said.

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Speaker 1: On the day.

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Speaker 3: She wasn't run, she wasn't vouched.

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Speaker 1: She was writtenly and vouched. I didn't chase.

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Speaker 3: I didn't please your promise found me.

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Speaker 1: Found me all mind. After all I tried to choose.

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Speaker 10: You gave me love.

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Speaker 3: I did lose.

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Speaker 13: Dy say, lets just say the dream he surpromised that

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time did. Yeah, she loves you more and she loves me.

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That's the kind of love that sets me free. When

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the stars rise, we don't run. We prayed it to

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the battles one. She sees my lost, seize the compremus me.

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I'm not dingish that all t every word she speaks

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his grave.

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Speaker 12: I see a friend of trance in her face.

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Speaker 10: Oh well, it's the thing up, just timing and Chase.

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I know it's.

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Speaker 1: Obedience and trust in your players. I was busy trying

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to make your twit.

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Speaker 3: You were teaching me he will love his word.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't read.

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Speaker 10: He wasn't for she was ready in your home.

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Speaker 1: I didn't Chase, I didn't pleak your.

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Speaker 10: Promise found me, found me all mind, found me on.

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Speaker 1: My daughter all and tried.

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Speaker 10: You gave me.

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Speaker 1: And I did lo.

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Speaker 8: This saying it out.

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Speaker 1: This ain't a dream.

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Speaker 10: It's so I'm standfaum me.

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Speaker 3: Not just the once old line for someone who helps

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me be da man.

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Speaker 8: We don't just talk a buff forever?

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Speaker 1: Could we pray it to build it walking together? If

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you never gave me anything else, I still be Riching

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me is kind of help.

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Speaker 13: Oh, this is love to fade.

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Speaker 8: It around me because it came straight from.

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Speaker 1: Heaven to find me.

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Speaker 8: She wasn't rushed, she wasn't forced, she was written the wood.

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I didn't chase, I didn't please. Your primis fool me,

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found me a money.

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Speaker 10: Us. I try to choose him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, still away, still be understand count.

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Speaker 3: A promise that found me?

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 4: All right, So we're talking about going no contact with

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a narcissist, and and the thing is is that many

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people will say that once they did that, they had

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so much peace, so much peace. You weren't dealing with

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the constant drama, put downs, negativity, mental abuse, verbal abuse,

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physical abuse.

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Speaker 3: All those things. So when you one of the things,

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when you're trying to get that inner piece.

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Speaker 4: You have to actively set boundaries, and one of those

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boundaries is when you decide to go low and no

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contact with the abuser.

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Speaker 3: Then it helps you for your inner peace.

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Speaker 4: And therefore, one of the things that you can do

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and keeping with that peace is minimally exposing yourself to negativity.

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That means that you want to not be around negative people,

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negative influences, negative words. All right, so prioritize your peace

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by first of all, you want to make sure you

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have peace with God. Okay, we know that He gives

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us the peace that surpassive understanding, and no one can

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give us peace like the Lord. And I just want

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to let you know that you can find peace in God.

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Even when you go no contact with the narcissists, you

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can find you can find that peace in God and

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psalms for this first one.

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Speaker 3: It lets us know that God is our refuge and

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he is our strength. Okay, So you can find refuge

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and peace in God.

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Speaker 4: Now, one of the things that when you're trying to

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find is peace is setting boundaries.

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Speaker 3: Setting boundaries.

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Speaker 4: That means that your nobody know as the Bible says,

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and your yesbs protect your energy by saying no.

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Speaker 3: Learn to say no. Another thing is prayer.

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Speaker 4: Calm your mind and focus on the future, not the past,

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the future, allow yourself to be at peace with God.

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Another thing that is so important is let go of control.

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go of it. You cannot control the narcissists. Okay, you

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cannot control the narcissists. And I wanna speaking of wish,

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I wanna read this Serendty prayer if I can find it,

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because this is something that when you're going low contact

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or no contact, this will help you when it comes

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to accepting things. It says, God, grant me the serenity

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to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change

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the things I can, and the wisdom to know the

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difference living one day at a time, enjoing one moment

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at a time, accepting hardship as the pathway to peace.

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Speaker 3: And what this means when you.

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Speaker 4: Break this down, grant me the serenity to accept the

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things I cannot change. That means God, give me peace

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to know that I can't control every situation. I can't

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control the individual. I can't make people change.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 3: That's why the next line it says, courage to change

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the things I can.

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Speaker 4: I can only change things about me. I can't change

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someone else. So if someone else want to be NARCISSISTICU

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use of toxic, then let them do it. But you

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can only change what you can do, and that's only

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within yourself.

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Speaker 3: It also goes on to say, and the wisdom to

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know the difference.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so once we have knowledge, we need the wisdom

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of God to know how to utilize that knowledge so

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that I can know the difference, know the things I

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can change, and know the things that I can't change.

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Speaker 3: And the wisdom to know the difference. That means knowing that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I can't change people, but I can change allow

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God to change me. Living one day at a time,

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you know, one thing Jesus said is don't be anxious

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about tomorrow. Let every day take care of itself. That

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means living one day at a time. Enjoy one moment

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at the time because you don't know if you're going

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to be able to have that next moment, So enjoy

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one moment at a time. That means have peace as

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much as you can get it, and accepting hardship as

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the pathway to peace. You know, then lets us know that, hey,

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we go through things in life. But guess what, when

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we go through things in life, it also helps us

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to sit back and analyze and say, Okay, now what

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do I need to.

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Speaker 3: Do to readjust in order to get the peace that

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I need.

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Speaker 4: Another thing is when you're going low contact, no contact,

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practice forgiveness and gratitude so that you can have that

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peace of mind. You know, forgiveness, As we've often said

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on this podcast, forgiveness is not saying that you've given

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that person a green card to do whatever they were doing.

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What it is saying is that I'm gonna let go

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and let God. I can't control you, can't I can't

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change you. There's nothing I can do to make you

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be a non toxic individual. Excelf for pray for you,

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But I'm gonna forgive you because if I release the

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grudges and the resentment, then I can focus on the positive.

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us to forgive. It's a it's not a choice. It's

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a requirement for those of us who believe in God,

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because He forgives us. But it doesn't mean that you

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have to allow that person to have access to you.

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Forgiveness is for you. It's not just for that individual,

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but it's for you. Rather they receive it, rather they

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do anything with it. Rather they even think that.

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Speaker 3: They need forgiveness. Okay, that's fine, don't worry about them.

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Forgiveness is for you.

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Speaker 4: That means that I got to make sure that my

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relationship with God is right and make sure that I'm

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at peace, because if I'm holding on the bitterness and

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resentment and all that, I'm not gonna grow. I'm not

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gonna heal, I'm not gonna thrive. Forgiveness does not mean

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that you put a stamp of endorsement on what the

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person did to you. It means that I'm just gonna

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let go let God because I have more in myself

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that God is doing me that I don't have time

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to hold on to any baggages.

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Speaker 3: Last, but not least, self talk positive talk. When you talk, speak.

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Speaker 4: Life into yourself, speak life into yourself.

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Speaker 3: The you know the word of God. Lets us know

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that the tongue is powerful.

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Speaker 4: Okay, power of you know when you when you speaking

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death into yourself, then you're gonna be You expect not

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to be able to have anything positive but one thing

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when Proverbs chapter eighteen verse twenty one, it says death

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and life are in the power of the tongue, and

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they that love it eat the fruit or up.

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Speaker 3: That means that if I'm speaking life to myself, then

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I'm gonna thrive.

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Speaker 4: If I'm speaking death over myself, well I'm never gonna

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mount to this.

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Speaker 3: I'm never gonna mount to that. I'm not gonna do

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I'm too old, too young, too fat, too short. If

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you're speaking all these negative things, then that's what you're

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gonna take on. That's what's going to become you. So

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as David had to do.

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Speaker 4: In the words, it lets us know that David had

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to speak speak life over himself. He has speak a

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word to himself. Encourage yourself. He had to encourage himself,

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and we have to encourage ourselves. And the thing is

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is that when you are dealing with narcissists, they're constantly

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speaking death, constantly having the death of the emotional of

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death over you.

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Speaker 3: You're never doing anything right.

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Speaker 4: You're never good enough, you're not this, you're not that,

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you should be this, you should be that, never always

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setting the bar higher, but it's something that you will

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never be able to meet.

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Speaker 3: So when you go on low contact and no contact.

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Speaker 4: Just remember you're the one that have to establish your

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boundaries and you're the one that's in control of having

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that peace, and it first begins with God.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we're up out of here. I pray to

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today's podcast has been a blessing to you and that

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you would know your feelings do matter. This is doctor

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k are Rich would not abuse. No more untail next time.

