Speaker 1: Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one, The Egle.
Speaker 2: We love giving tickets away, and we got tickets to Pantera.
Speaker 2: They're going to be at Doseki's coming up here in
Speaker 2: a couple months. We've got tickets to give away. But
Speaker 2: we use the iHeart app, the free app. There's a
Speaker 2: talkback feature. The first person to leave their name, their
Speaker 2: phone number, and their email address and can tell us
Speaker 2: the place where I sustained a massive head injury last night.
Speaker 2: We were telling the story at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 2: I banged my head. Where were we when it happened?
Speaker 2: We told the story. If you were listening, you know,
Speaker 2: and you can win those Pantera tickets. But right now
Speaker 2: it's time for this.
Speaker 1: It's time to go into the Bitter Stripule Wiberg Machine
Speaker 1: actually going back eleven years this time.
Speaker 3: One of our favorite guests on the show of all
Speaker 3: these years was legendary college football coach Mike Leach, who
Speaker 3: passed away a couple of years ago. Mike Leach not
Speaker 3: only was one of the quirk ges head coaches in
Speaker 3: college football, he wrote some books on the side. One
Speaker 3: was called Swinging My Sword, which is not about his penis.
Speaker 3: It's kind of about pirates. But he also wrote a
Speaker 3: book about Geronimo. Yes, the legend Geronimo.
Speaker 1: This made him so happy. It's like a straight up filibustering.
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful It's a wonderful book, Geranamo Leadership Strategies
Speaker 3: of an American Warrior.
Speaker 1: I would like for you guys to read that. You know,
Speaker 1: ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I read it when we had him on you know
Speaker 3: this he's the press kid, but you guys never got
Speaker 3: to It's on my bookshelf.
Speaker 1: Did you read the Pirate book? Because I'm interested. I
Speaker 1: didn't get to that one, but we didn't have him
Speaker 1: on the press tour for that, but I would have.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: Uh, you learned so much, including about the three types
Speaker 3: of moccasins.
Speaker 1: And uh, this is not a lie.
Speaker 3: I know, I know I've heard this twenty fourteen raving
Speaker 3: Mike Lee John and then he went off into.
Speaker 4: This how do you fix some Moxican moccasin when you're
Speaker 4: out there in Roman in the pre duct tape era.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll tell you they kind of had their
Speaker 5: verse at Duck Tape, but they well they had I
Speaker 5: guess you'd say, three major types of moccasins.
Speaker 1: They even had a type that had the.
Speaker 4: Front toe turned up.
Speaker 5: Later in the interview, you.
Speaker 4: Have to run ten miles up and down hills across
Speaker 4: the desert, and at the end of the run spit
Speaker 4: out the mouthful of water. A little bit later, Uh,
Speaker 4: Geronimo's history and his live.
Speaker 1: Well, Mike, thanks for the time.
Speaker 2: Man. We will all be checking out your book on Geronimo.
Speaker 2: We love the fact that we got to talk to
Speaker 2: you today. Thanks for the time that We'll catch up
Speaker 2: with you later. Man, Well, great talking to you anytime.
Speaker 2: It's always good to hear from you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, take care, Mike.
Speaker 2: There he goes Mike Leach, the head football coach at
Speaker 2: Washington State, with information on his new book about Geronimo.
Speaker 1: Coming up next.
Speaker 4: Man, John Daniels, I feel like the whole time I
Speaker 4: was asking my mom if we could leave the museum,
Speaker 4: John Daniels, think about Mike Leach's new book on Okay.
Speaker 1: That was good, you know, in twelve minutes or so.
Speaker 3: And I would say total amount of time that you
Speaker 3: guys talked in that interview was about two minutes or
Speaker 3: last last maybe.
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of fist pumping though I
Speaker 1: was so happy that was on the fan. It's like
Speaker 1: he was running four corners. I know, how can I
Speaker 1: run out the clock here? It was amazing, and he
Speaker 1: went into detail about the three types of moccasins he is.
Speaker 2: He is used to pontificating. That's his whole game, his
Speaker 2: whole game.
Speaker 3: There's so many articles from the day about his players,
Speaker 3: and this kind of happened after he died, just about
Speaker 3: how weird the film watching meetings would be. And you
Speaker 3: think you're getting some real hard hitting, you know, analysis,
Speaker 3: and listen how we fix our quarterback and he's like.
Speaker 1: Just throw it to the guy that's open. That's a
Speaker 1: coaching I need right there.
Speaker 2: You look right here, there's a guy open right here
Speaker 2: in the flat, and you throw it to him there.
Speaker 3: And we have to say this story where he put
Speaker 3: the kid in the shed, Craig James's son. He put
Speaker 3: him in the shed, which I was supported. He was
Speaker 3: having concussion setbacks, so he was having some concussion problems.
Speaker 3: We learned over the years that the reason this happened
Speaker 3: is because Craig James was kind of being a helicopter
Speaker 3: parent trying to get his kids some more playing time.
Speaker 1: Michael like the leach version of the story.
Speaker 3: I'll show you yea go to the shed, which you
Speaker 3: know not really would not be okay now, but in
Speaker 3: you know, twenty twelve or whenever that was happening.
Speaker 1: It depends on the comfort level of the shed.
Speaker 3: They had Mike Leach and Bobby Knight at the same
Speaker 3: time at Texas Tech and then somehow let Tuberville come
Speaker 3: in and ruin everything and dude dose.
Speaker 2: Guys have the same cadence when they talk. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: if you listen to the leech Night cadence, it's very similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I find Mike Leach to be more likable than Bobby
Speaker 1: Knight by far. God. Yes. And he was so approachable.
Speaker 1: He was so great to us.
Speaker 5: We could call him about anything here, We could get
Speaker 5: right to him, we didn't have to go to a
Speaker 5: pr person. And he would jump on our show every
Speaker 5: time we asked.
Speaker 2: And I can't think of a single person in the
Speaker 2: world that's not more likable than Bobby Knight. Like he's
Speaker 2: the least likable a hole in the history of existence.
Speaker 1: He and that was his like thing, right, my butt's
Speaker 1: gonna be up, so kiss my ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was a jerk to every single
Speaker 2: person no matter what, because he felt like he had
Speaker 2: earned the right to be.
Speaker 1: That was an iconic chair throw though.
Speaker 2: That was I saw an old lady over there and
Speaker 2: she said, Coach Night, I want to have a seat,
Speaker 2: So I threw my chair over at her.
Speaker 1: That's Bob Knight.
Speaker 5: There's a little uh John Waite in there. Pilgrim all right?
Speaker 5: Coming up next. A judge criticizes a man for wearing
Speaker 5: this T shirt in court. What was the dude wearing
Speaker 5: we'll discuss next.