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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one, The Egle.

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<v Speaker 2>We love giving tickets away, and we got tickets to Pantera.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be at Doseki's coming up here in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months. We've got tickets to give away. But

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<v Speaker 2>we use the iHeart app, the free app. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>talkback feature. The first person to leave their name, their

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<v Speaker 2>phone number, and their email address and can tell us

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<v Speaker 2>the place where I sustained a massive head injury last night.

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<v Speaker 2>We were telling the story at the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>I banged my head. Where were we when it happened?

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<v Speaker 2>We told the story. If you were listening, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can win those Pantera tickets. But right now

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to go into the Bitter Stripule Wiberg Machine

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<v Speaker 1>actually going back eleven years this time.

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<v Speaker 3>One of our favorite guests on the show of all

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<v Speaker 3>these years was legendary college football coach Mike Leach, who

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<v Speaker 3>passed away a couple of years ago. Mike Leach not

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<v Speaker 3>only was one of the quirk ges head coaches in

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<v Speaker 3>college football, he wrote some books on the side. One

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<v Speaker 3>was called Swinging My Sword, which is not about his penis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of about pirates. But he also wrote a

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<v Speaker 3>book about Geronimo. Yes, the legend Geronimo.

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<v Speaker 1>This made him so happy. It's like a straight up filibustering.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a wonderful It's a wonderful book, Geranamo Leadership Strategies

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<v Speaker 3>of an American Warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like for you guys to read that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I read it when we had him on you know

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<v Speaker 3>this he's the press kid, but you guys never got

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<v Speaker 3>to It's on my bookshelf.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read the Pirate book? Because I'm interested. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to that one, but we didn't have him

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<v Speaker 1>on the press tour for that, but I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, you learned so much, including about the three types

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<v Speaker 3>of moccasins.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, this is not a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know I've heard this twenty fourteen raving

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Lee John and then he went off into.

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<v Speaker 4>This how do you fix some Moxican moccasin when you're

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<v Speaker 4>out there in Roman in the pre duct tape era.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I'll tell you they kind of had their

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<v Speaker 5>verse at Duck Tape, but they well they had I

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<v Speaker 5>guess you'd say, three major types of moccasins.

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<v Speaker 1>They even had a type that had the.

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<v Speaker 4>Front toe turned up.

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<v Speaker 5>Later in the interview, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have to run ten miles up and down hills across

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<v Speaker 4>the desert, and at the end of the run spit

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<v Speaker 4>out the mouthful of water. A little bit later, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>Geronimo's history and his live.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mike, thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. We will all be checking out your book on Geronimo.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the fact that we got to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you today. Thanks for the time that We'll catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with you later. Man, Well, great talking to you anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always good to hear from you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take care, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>There he goes Mike Leach, the head football coach at

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State, with information on his new book about Geronimo.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, John Daniels, I feel like the whole time I

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<v Speaker 4>was asking my mom if we could leave the museum,

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<v Speaker 4>John Daniels, think about Mike Leach's new book on Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good, you know, in twelve minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would say total amount of time that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys talked in that interview was about two minutes or

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<v Speaker 3>last last maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing a lot of fist pumping though I

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<v Speaker 1>was so happy that was on the fan. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>he was running four corners. I know, how can I

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<v Speaker 1>run out the clock here? It was amazing, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went into detail about the three types of moccasins he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is used to pontificating. That's his whole game, his

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<v Speaker 2>whole game.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many articles from the day about his players,

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<v Speaker 3>and this kind of happened after he died, just about

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<v Speaker 3>how weird the film watching meetings would be. And you

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<v Speaker 3>think you're getting some real hard hitting, you know, analysis,

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<v Speaker 3>and listen how we fix our quarterback and he's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throw it to the guy that's open. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>coaching I need right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You look right here, there's a guy open right here

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<v Speaker 2>in the flat, and you throw it to him there.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to say this story where he put

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<v Speaker 3>the kid in the shed, Craig James's son. He put

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<v Speaker 3>him in the shed, which I was supported. He was

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<v Speaker 3>having concussion setbacks, so he was having some concussion problems.

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<v Speaker 3>We learned over the years that the reason this happened

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<v Speaker 3>is because Craig James was kind of being a helicopter

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<v Speaker 3>parent trying to get his kids some more playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael like the leach version of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll show you yea go to the shed, which you

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<v Speaker 3>know not really would not be okay now, but in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twenty twelve or whenever that was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the comfort level of the shed.

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<v Speaker 3>They had Mike Leach and Bobby Knight at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time at Texas Tech and then somehow let Tuberville come

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<v Speaker 3>in and ruin everything and dude dose.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys have the same cadence when they talk. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen to the leech Night cadence, it's very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I find Mike Leach to be more likable than Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Knight by far. God. Yes. And he was so approachable.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so great to us.

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<v Speaker 5>We could call him about anything here, We could get

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<v Speaker 5>right to him, we didn't have to go to a

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<v Speaker 5>pr person. And he would jump on our show every

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<v Speaker 5>time we asked.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't think of a single person in the

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<v Speaker 2>world that's not more likable than Bobby Knight. Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>the least likable a hole in the history of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>He and that was his like thing, right, my butt's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be up, so kiss my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was. He was a jerk to every single

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<v Speaker 2>person no matter what, because he felt like he had

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<v Speaker 2>earned the right to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an iconic chair throw though.

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<v Speaker 2>That was I saw an old lady over there and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, Coach Night, I want to have a seat,

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<v Speaker 2>So I threw my chair over at her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Bob Knight.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a little uh John Waite in there. Pilgrim all right?

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<v Speaker 5>Coming up next. A judge criticizes a man for wearing

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<v Speaker 5>this T shirt in court. What was the dude wearing

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<v Speaker 5>we'll discuss next.