Speaker 1: Hello, boys and girls, and welcome back to honk a
honk On News. We are back much demanded. We have
been gone for too long. Many people would say too long,
but you know, we keep getting held back. I am
Michael Snail, the second Am, joined by my bro Chacho. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Jack Snyder here, and I'm so excited to be back.
It's been months years, I don't know. It's hard to
keep track anymore. They keep us locked up in between
our recordings, so it's hard to keep track of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, it's just a shame they only
invite us back for this. I think that's when we
only get brought back as anniversaries or specials, because they
know the goods are here. They know that people. That's
all they gave us this whole. They're like MCU junkies.
They gave us a slate. Could you believe this for
their anniversary. They gave us a slate. But when they
put us on.
Speaker 2: The stude cares about their slate.
Speaker 1: No one cares. No one cares. Ten years, ten years,
spend years, may as well just be ten minutes. The
amount of content they've done that's actually decent, you know,
probably even me saying ten minutes worth of geeferst content
is worth listening as a stretch. You know, it's being
me nice because my brother, who I will say, we
we've talked about before for anyone that is new ten years, uh,
you know we we have ten one zero one zero.
I am the twin brother of trest now. And can
you believe this Jack sny or that he went on
in the past year and had twins himself. There should
be that should be a moment for us, you know,
twin brothers holding twin daughters. I've still yet to meet
the twin daughters. You know, I've not been invited. Something
about like I'm a bad uh, you know, uncle, I'm
gonna be I would just like torment the kids, ruin them.
Speaker 2: Well, I know one time you threw a kid in
the pool and they didn't know how to swim, but
like it was a prank, tough love. Yeah, have some
fun in your life.
Speaker 1: I flew and I throw in an unflated like a
deflated stuffy thing that.
Speaker 2: They can record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people say deflated, but unflated it's the true word
if you look up the dictionary. But yeah, they think
I'm gonna be a bad person and I'm gonna be
a bad influence. And I'm just saying, Travi's like, it's time.
You know, those are my nieces, you know the other kids,
you know, I meant, but these are the twins. That's
just that. That's like us in the generation who would
have thunk in ten years, But no, here we are.
I'm stuck someware somebody of restraining order that Emily has
me on. I've never liked her. I told him not to,
you know, choose that woman, but he did. So that's
my life to update. It's just just chilling not meeting
my nieces. What about you, jacksonyw what you been up
to in these past? Uh? However long we've been walked
away for?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not related to Dylan, but this
guy's fucking obsessed to me. I had to get a
restrained in order against him. But he just he'll knock
me in the middle of the night. He'll put me
in the back of his shitty little car. He'll drive
sometimes two to three provinces away and they'll just drop
me there. And so I checked my bike it on.
I just had to bike all the way back to Vancouver,
and I'd broken through the window here were touching the
sirens right out there. But there's quite a few cops
out there. But I had, like, there's only places I
can record, and so I had to come into his
house and do this. But I mean, this house smells horrendous,
Like this guy's a total slob. I just don't like
it at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make sure the trash it a bit more
before you go. And you know, Jack Snyder was there,
suck at Geek.
Speaker 2: First, the diary. I'm just breaking all his silverware, expensive china.
I'm just destroying all of it.
Speaker 1: He's keeps the spoons though, I'm out of spoons, so
I could I could use some more spoons.
Speaker 2: Ahead of you. I already begged. I'm already begged. I'm
just like Marvin home alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, perfect, Yeah. And the other thing is too
like I if anyone that doesn't believe these stories, I
you know, I listened to geek for just because I'm
working on a case against them, big lawsuit. You know
there's alto lawsuits Geek first, but this one's serious. I'm
just telling you, don't be surprised at the GV twenty
if we're running things.
Speaker 2: You know, we're on the trajectory. We're on the trajectory
right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time. But when I happened listening to build
up this lawsuit, Dylan talks all about climbing. I think
it's just to like climb up to where your apartment,
where your actual place you stay. I think he's gonna
climb there and get you.
Speaker 2: I think that's work. Should I put some barricades on
the windows?
Speaker 1: You should talk about like Marv watch home alone, study
like game tape. I think that's why he's climbing. I
think if you live on a thousand foot floor right
like that, you're in the tallest built like we won't
say where.
Speaker 2: But you live in one of the Yeah I'm up there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the tallest buildings world. You're at the tippy
top in a like a whole room by yourself, a
floor by yourself, because you just get that respect kind.
Speaker 2: Of like have you seen the movie The sub the Substance,
It was like a movie last year. Yeah, I kind
of live in that'sa room that there's like a room
behind a bathroom and that's kind of what my house
is like. I so I have to go through a
public bathroom I break down a wall, and then there's
my dark corner.
Speaker 1: Put those spoons in there, because I want to come
see that room, So put the spoons in there so
I get it.
Speaker 2: I'll put the spoons in there, just me, you and
a couple of spoons, just like just.
Speaker 1: Like old times, the best of the best. I'm just
telling you though, that's why he's climbing. He's gonna climb
to get you. He's gonna be ready. You know, he's
making connections. He met miss Marvel. Marvel actors, you know,
they're typical, but DC actors, well, Jesse Snyder actors. Yeah,
but you know, yeah, big congrats, giv ten year. You know,
have us on more. You your guys are ratings be
through the roof.
Speaker 2: You know what, like what have they done for the world?
Speaker 1: Lies?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Lies, you know, And just like since the last time
we've been here, man speaking, lies, people have been lying
to themselves. I see all I hear all this praise,
all this talk about, oh there's a new Superman movie
and all it's hopeful and colorful. And James Gunn who
did the Guardians of.
Speaker 2: The James gun did all those fuck the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you never see anything of those of mine,
except if you knew my MySpace, but other than that,
you wouldn't see any of that. My space is cool play,
so people get my humor. Understand me there, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
not canceling me, but you know they should cancel this
d CU. How on original to James gunn Oh, I'm
the president of d C. No, we're gonna call our
little universe the d C you like.
Speaker 2: And the logo looks the exact same as the old one,
is just like a little bit brighter or something like,
I don't understand what that's supposed to be about, like
get creative.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: They probably used a I to make that. Let's be probably.
Speaker 1: Probably the whole movie. You know that, But I don't.
Speaker 2: I believe in AI. I think it actually makes for
some projects. We've seen a logo like That's that just
shows that they don't really have the juice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's using the bad AI. You know, the THEI.
That's not it's a cheap AI. We pay for AI
because I'm always every night when I get home, AI
is asking me how my day has been, what I
was on my phone, what memes are on there? I'll
happily share it because, uh, I don't want to work,
so I love that they'll just do the stuff for me.
I you know, work works smarter, not harder. But you know,
this guy, James Gun may as well just call him
Kevin Figey Junior. With the choice he's making the Superman movie.
I saw about two minutes of a camera recording. It
was upside down. Don't know why, but it was upside down.
But still that even upside down, I could tell this
is shit screak right here. And they've just made the
Marvel Universe again, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, Michael, they should know the truth. Like
the only way that Geek First would let us record
this episode and release it to the people, we had
to sign extremely long papers, you know, all these rights,
and they forced us to watch the New Superman and
the New Fantastic Four first step, so we would not
have wasted our time with this gutter trash if we
you know, we're just living our lives and trying to
live happy, fulfilling lives. That was the only way that
they would sign off on us getting on here, which
is just so fucked up. Like I don't know what
else is to say about it, Like go to your
local city hall complain, write a formal complaint, go to
the patreon. We know that all the people on the
patron are there to support us and get more episodes
of us. Absolutely the messages let them know the truth
and that you just want.
Speaker 1: More of us Apple Podcast.
Speaker 2: All these hoops of watching these trash movies don't make
us waste our time.
Speaker 1: Apple Podcast one star just say we want honk a honka,
just like Jack said. Just I said, that's what you
gotta do. But so we did watch it, you know,
I I the two minutes is enough for me. I
told my watchhell, but I've seen enough. I've seen the previews.
They kept trying to force this movie on me in
the theaters, like I don't want to see this, Yeah, everywhere.
But what we're talking about today is the top five
reasons why this movie is way worse, not even the
saying shras fear as the Man of Steel. I got to,
you got to, we got a reason you.
Speaker 2: Did you watch it today or has it been a
couple days?
Speaker 1: It's paused currently on the the Tornado scene with.
Speaker 2: The dad art shot.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah I have. I don't know if
I told you this, but I have a mural being
worked on in my bedroom, not on the wall, on
the roof, on the roof. Yeah, so when I go.
Speaker 2: To bed, they actually summon a tornado psychologist, Like, that's
not CGI. That is of course real tornado. They wrangled
the tornado for the film, like you don't see that
kind of thing in modern cinema. That was it was
not easy to do, is daated, like many lives are lost,
but it made for a great film. And like that's
what the kind of lengths you need to go through
to make a movie work these days, and they just
don't do it anymore, lazy fox, you know, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, practical is better. You know, I want real tornado,
want real volcanoes, not the ceasing.
Speaker 2: They built men's ice house, that's all CGI. That's not
really Yeah, built things.
Speaker 1: They built it, built the ship Doomsday practical. I heard
they mixed with some science to get in there. Pretty yeah,
pretty good stuff. Yeah yeah, ahead of his time, ahead
of his time. But yeah, I'm the mirror right now.
It's Kevin Costner doing his weight. Thing. Can't because then
anytime I wake up from a nightmare thinking about Geek first,
I'll see him up there and he'll soothe me, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, so soothing. He's a soothing gentleman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well, he said, we came up with two
for me, two for you, one together, our first one together.
This just has to be said. This movie, Man of Steel.
You know what led to right behind me, the Snyder cut.
This movie. This movie is just leading to a fucking
porter potty, That's what it's leading to. It's leading to
a bottomless pit of shit and fauna and piss, maybe blood.
I don't know what's down there. I don't use porter potties.
That's just only MCU people use porta pot I've heard
MCU people.
Speaker 2: Use the bathroom that my apartment is just outside of.
Speaker 1: That's oh that's nice. Yeah, that's great. I wish I
had one, though, I gotta work on that after the mural.
But I've heard MCU people, Uh, they prefer the porter PARTTI.
It's just something with how they like to do stuff.
But yeah, okay, yeah, we ain't. We ain't getting no
Zach Snyder Justice League from this. Do you want to
see James Gunns Justice League? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, they can't even make this Batman movie. There's
been in production for like eight years or something that
they canceled The Brave and the Bold. Next they can't
even get the most popular character other than Superman up
on the big screen. Yeah, like, what this new management,
it's it's stunt. It's stunt casting of the producer world.
Speaker 1: It's not like the old management we had, which was
tipped off. You know, it was really no.
Speaker 2: Top projects, one after another, consistent release schedules, great casting,
surprise Leo.
Speaker 1: Yes, chair Letto. Oh my god, I'm still working on
the interview. One day we'll get that interview. But Jack Snyder,
what's what? What's your first reason why Man is still
so much better than this tongue of garbage we got
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: So, I mean it all comes back to the main man,
that leading role, Henry cavill I mean, the great actor.
Would you say he is the greatest actor of all time?
Or just right now? Which would you say?
Speaker 1: That's that's tough, But I might have to go all
the time. You've made a great case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go there too. And you
can even see his marvel last year ripping off the
Henry Cat. What was that? What was that movie was?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Guys, Wolverine, Wolverine, and the character is yeah something like that. Yeah,
they're just trying to get a little bit of that
sauce on.
Speaker 1: Their movies are shaky now, they're not making money, so
they knew they need to get the greatest actor, the
real Superman in their movies.
Speaker 2: What a hunk a hunkah in that movie? Did you
see those arms? I'm that scene. The fact that the
only gave one scene is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But that's why I made a billion look.
Speaker 2: At like a slab of meat in that in that
movie for he.
Speaker 1: Was I want extras, I want seconds.
Speaker 2: I want to posters hanging up in my in my
dark bathroom living.
Speaker 1: Oh, you should get mural too. Mural be good. I'll
send you my guy. He's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, send me the mural guy. Send me themural guy,
because that mine mine. He disappeared. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: That happens. I'll send you a mural guy. He'll paint
it and then you give him the spoons and he'll
bring those back to me because he also lives here too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little I don't got much money on
this AI stuff. I'm a little low on lan.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just I just don't see the point of
making a Superman movie out Henry Cavill. He is Superman,
He's Clark Kent, he's everything in between. I just I
just don't see the point. Why, why, why are they
even trying?
Speaker 1: Why they've no, I don't know. I think they're just
trying to make a point, like, oh, we could do
Superman movie, we could do this. But like I was
just saying, people knew Henry. There was buzz around Henry
Cavill Bean in that mar movie. That's the only reason
made a billion dollars. They went to go see that.
They went to go see him. You know, Black Adam.
I think they just lost some money because he was
in that that probably made a billion. They probably just
something happened. But that was already when James Gunn take over.
So I bet Black Adam made a billion. But James
gun just like pocketed that money. He gave to his
brother Alan tu Dick, Nathan Fillion.
Speaker 2: You know. You see, it was at the height of
its power until James Gunn took go, and you can
immediately see it start to tank.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's there's a there, there's a progression point when
that happens.
Speaker 2: So yeah, look at Joker too. I mean anything gun
is just tragic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making a little cartoons.
Speaker 2: Creep behind you is making me tear up a little
bit just seeing seeing the classics, the Golden Age. Oh,
I know, and Henry Cavill.
Speaker 1: We had it all. Yeah, look at it. We had
it all. You know, didn't appreciate it enough. We tried
to tell you, We try to tell you a million times,
a hunk of hunker, but uh, for me, it's the trunks, man,
the trunks being back. What are Superman is not a
little boy, he's he's Superman. He's not super boy. Why's
he got his underwear outside on his pants? What man
does that? And I know Davi Corns are like.
Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't scared. First, I don't know if you've
seen these guys and Taylor walking down the street, they
always do that those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't know what they're doing that. They
think they're definitely super boys, you know, but I just
don't understand it. We moved away from though those were
things in the past. Jack Sentner revolutionized the trunks by
putting them where they should be, behind the pants, not
on top of them. He just looks like a little child.
David Corns is like, Oh, I do this so it
doesn't scare the kids. You should be scaring the kids,
because the kids need scaring. They gotta be scared straight.
Like we talked about before, he talked about me kids
throwing kids in the pool. I do that. They swim.
No better way to learn than in the deep.
Speaker 2: End, you know, swim, sink or swim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the Superman, he would sink absolutely
because he's got a little underwear on on the outside.
Who's who'd be scared of that Superman he pulls up underwear.
Speaker 2: There, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of curricular Taylor. So I was scared Superman.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried to go to the set and get
them to change it on the day of filming. But yeah,
a lot of security, I don't know, just a waste
of budget, Like they should have put that money into
Henry Cavill but instead of into underwear budget. I guess,
I don't I don't know where they want he goes,
but all the security kicked me out.
Speaker 1: Underwear and Jim's Gun's dog, you know, which is just
obsessed with showing us. So you like my dog?
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that? What a wait?
Speaker 1: Dogs?
Speaker 2: What a waste of to get what is what is
the dog's name in there? It's like Gizmo or pop
po Poppy or something like.
Speaker 1: That, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, let's get actors on screen. Okay, I, you
and me, we don't like dogs, nasty nasty. I have
a pet coyote, great, really well, behaved, really well, catches
me breakfast, lunch, and dinner, all those kinds of things.
But don't trained bad actors smelly mangy. I don't want
to see him. I don't want to smell them a lot.
What's the point of having them in this movie?
Speaker 1: No point, Man of Steel. He would take that dog
just like you did his od but not here.
Speaker 2: Have you've seen that? Have you seen the movie? The
movie with the it's like the anchor anchorman, I think
is what it's Yeah, remember the scene on the bridge?
Were they the dog?
Speaker 1: The great Jack Black?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the best actors of our times, other
than of course, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he only learned from Jack Black. He watched
him growing up.
Speaker 2: He's HE'SI over and over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I would have done with Crypto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's what he did. That's what he's done.
That's what they should have done. But instead we're getting
all these scenes of this dog or running around in
the snow. It was a marketing stunt. Again, that's what
everything is here. They don't care about making a movie.
They just are trying to trick people to go to
the cinema. It's just it's not movie making.
Speaker 1: And in this movie, Crypto, like bosses super Realm, hurts
him that what what a what a what a little
man child.
Speaker 2: Like our dogs do you know? It's like it's not
even realistic.
Speaker 1: No, and our man steal that wouldn't happen. He's not
getting beat by no dog, you know, no.
Speaker 2: Real life Tornado. Not even really.
Speaker 1: Exactly was was Crypto your second reason? Or did you
have another second reason? First? Superman better?
Speaker 2: I have an infinite number of reasons, So you just
ask me and I got a reason.
Speaker 1: Okay, well keep they only gave us half an hour,
so we only got what's your what's your second final?
Superman is worse a man of Steel reason?
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll quick fire here and then my real
last one quick fire is and say it with me.
Hashtag zod is God. I mean, where where is could?
I don't know where he is, but I want to
bring it back. But my other one, once again, it
all comes down to the actors and who do they
they Lex Luthor they have, but I think it's like
Jude Law is playing in him in the New One
or something like that, like that, couldn't tell who it
was that is Lex Luthor. He's got the look, he's
got the head, he's got the demeanor, he's got the looks,
he's got the hair, the set, got the swag, he's
got the hair, He's got it all. And I just
can't believe they put in like some old, dusty old
actor like Jude Law in there instead of Eisenberg, who
really is the up and comer that we we should
have got him a hundred times more than we have.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And I heard this like Jude Law fell or whatnot.
Apparently for The Batman he didn't get that role. Apparently
he tried to get soup into and get that role.
Like what a bad actor. He just keeps not getting roles.
Speaker 2: And the greatest on like you gotta work harder than that.
Speaker 1: This isn't even leftovers. This is like in the garbage
behind the restaurant Lex Luthor. We're getting here instead of Iceberg,
which is tip top. Zach didn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 2: Talking about Yeah that's that's how good his acting performances.
Speaker 1: Where Zach told us day one it was always Jesse
and you could tell. You could tell it's just magic
when they got together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My other reason, similar to the crypto thing, is
why you know they talk about the always sudden stuff
up or showing you stuff. There's a green lantern here,
there's a hawk girl, all this stuff. I get it.
That's fine. You know, eventually Zach sony as justly happens.
But in his first movie, you have him a team again.
How what is this a Weeklyn super Weekly? Like, I
don't understand. He's Superman. He's supposed to do Man Singlar,
not Man's not Superman and Friends, Superman and Team. It's Superman.
So they put a bunch of characters in here just
to make them look weak. They have their little jokes,
they do all this stuff. But I couldn't believe it.
I was like, can you not even like? What are
we trying to rush to a team up. We didn't
do that with the BVS to just like there's no
rush there. That's a natural progression of Yeah, Superman sequel,
then that's the whevery Justice's League member in the sequel. Yeah,
that makes sense. But here we got a team already.
They're dropping the old Justice in the first movie, like
take a break, you know, like again just trying to
be MSU lighte with what they're doing here.
Speaker 2: It was so busy this. It gave me all these
NEPO pics like James guns Ye, uncles and nephews and
nieces and wives and husbands, all these people in here.
It's like, just pick a lane, let's make a nice
focused picture. Whoever wrote that script, oh my god, a
complete trash. It just makes no sense.
Speaker 1: It was him. He wrote his own script.
Speaker 2: Which asked the nine decision.
Speaker 1: And he wrote garbage.
Speaker 2: Then director, way too big of an ego, Absolutely on
Soups and Luther. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about big ego, Like my brother Pastor
since has been here. He put up movie credits, starred in, directed, in,
wrote in, produced. No wonder why it's so awful, you know,
it's so awful. I can't believe. That's why everyone's like, oh,
Carklyn did a good job. You can't do that. As director.
You're supposed to focus on one thing, which is directing.
You can't do a bunch of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I heard that they had a budget of fifty thousand
dollars for that movie, and it looks like it was
made on twenty cents. Ridiculous. I don't know what they
were doing.
Speaker 1: I bet that's all the stuff MC's been paying them off.
You know that that's probably people.
Speaker 2: On Patreon listening to this right now. You think your
money is going to a good place. They're just wasting
it on these crappy films.
Speaker 1: We should be making a movie. We uster should be making.
Speaker 2: A Dylan guy. He made a game sucks ass. I
tried it and it was one of the worst. We again,
he wants to cook?
Speaker 1: I cook in my own life. Who wants to cook?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The only persons I want to make is when
I'm playing the Witcher and pretending that I'm Henry Henry Cavill.
That's the only postion exactly.
Speaker 1: And the only problems I have or want to have
is this James gunn DCU thing. And unfortunately we have it.
So yeah, yeah, hopefully the next time we get to
be on air, this thing's dead, they hashtag restore the
Snyder Verse and we get yeah, we bring him back.
Everybody back, Like Rebel Moon was just Star Wars has not.
George Lucas was watching Rebel Moon thought wow, I could
learn or to a thing or two from Zack Snyder.
Just incredible, incredible stuff. We don't have time talking about that, but.
Speaker 2: All well, I saw that geek verself. Of course for
all the ten years they're bringing back all the shows,
they're bringing back canteen to conversations. Where is Rebel Moon conversations?
Speaker 1: That's oh I know, yeah, we're right here. We'll do
what we can talk about it for every minute. We'll
pause a minute, we'll talk about this positive in a minute,
talk about that, like the potentials just limitless, was Zack Snyder? Yeah, limitless?
Who again they had like the audacity, geegaultimate alliance. They
had him on an interview this year. We've many times
said we'd have Zach on everything, like oh no, we don't.
We don't want you guys to interview Zach. We're friends
with Zach. But they let two other people Joe Gennaro
and Chris Baga. Again, why don't we on the network?
Why didn't we get it? We were here before them?
Why didn't we get a spin off show?
Speaker 2: It makes no sense. I can't give you a logical
reason because there's no logic.
Speaker 1: Speak about no logic. Somehow could you believe in two
thousand and eight the MSU started, we're still here. We're
almost twenty years, a couple more years, twenty years to
this ship box has still been rolling around this money scheme.
This sister ken Faggy just steal any of his money. Yeah,
he's definitely still less money. Because you could see at
the box office people are starting to wake up. They're
probably they've probably heard what he said. Here's oh these
guys were right the whole time. But same thing, like
you said, we had to watch Fantastic four and again,
doesn't even hold a candle you tell me about this.
I completely agree to the twenty fifteen one. The twenty
fifteen one is it's not Zack Snyder level, but it
would be in that realm for Marvel stuff. You know,
it's right up there with Venom Morvius, Craven.
Speaker 2: Did you see Craven I saw a bit of Craven.
Speaker 1: Okay, just to finish it. It's so start, but it's great.
It's great Aarita Johnson and Russell Crow's best roles, i'd say,
best rolls.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I gotta get I gotta give it another go.
I just I thought Morvius would be in there. I
thought it'd be a bit of a crossover. I thought
we'd get more Jerry Letdow. But when I saw it
wasn't in there, I didn't know what I was what
I was signing up for.
Speaker 1: But I watched it in the woods.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good way to do it. It's a
very immersive experience. I don't know if people know this too.
So obviously that movie fantistic as it's called now, great film,
but another great Fantastic four movie from nineteen ninety four.
People don't notice me and you were producers that movie,
and I'm still waiting for that paycheck. That movie got canceled,
taken from under our feet. We put all of our
life savings and all of our family's life savings in
that movie and it never got to see the light
of day, which it's still heartbreaking to me to this
very day. And that's why I haven't shared it yet
in all of the podcasts we've done, because it still
is a deep, deep burning me and you. We work
so hard on that movie.
Speaker 1: That was our moment, you know. But I think even
like a young stan Lee knew what we were doing, Like, Oh,
if they put this movie out, they're not gonna be
saying Stan the man. They're gonna be saying these guys
are the man. They're gonna give them the key's the
Marvel And remember Marvel in the nineties going bankrupt. If
we were run it never we would have got We
would have found Zach before DC did, and we would
have just let them loose. Don't get me wrong, I
love this the Zack Snyder movies and everything, but we
would have let him have an entire universe, not just
three movies. We would let him have the whole kick
of Beutle. He'd making the slates, he'd be directed it.
But yeah, that was We can now legally talk about
it because the thirty years up, but before.
Speaker 2: That's a fork on the road, a buttherfly. In fact,
I would have loved to see how the world would
have gone, how we got to release that beautiful picture
to the to the world.
Speaker 1: But you know what we got is this Fantastic four
movie and it just, oh my god, Like people say, oh,
it's so colorful, and it's like the sixties. Why do
we want to go backwards? I don't wanna go back
to the sixties. We want to move forward, like Zach's
movie is all that we're doing right or Fan for
Stick that wasn't all obsessed with another decade. I like
where we are now. We're living in the best times.
There's nothing wrong with the world right now. Currently, everything's
just going swimmingly. So why do we want to go
back to the sixties when tons of problems? We have
no problems like the sixties, you know, nothing like that
at all. But yeah, so we have four reasons why
this movie is worse than Fan for Stick Jackson, And
I'm gonna let you take what's your first reason?
Speaker 2: Okay, my first reason is right there in the title
Fantastic four First steps? What is with all these numbers?
We have a first? We have a four? Is this
math class? Or are we going to see a cinematic
picture here?
Speaker 1: And the Spanish steps means ten.
Speaker 2: I believe that's true. Right now? You have all these
numbers in there, three numbers. I don't like it. I
don't like it. Let's make a movie. A movie should
be about characters and writing and action. All we love
we love that action.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what we're doing actions? All this math? I'm like, first, no, like,
what what is the title? Like Fantastic four twenty fifteen.
That's a movie right now, that's a title, that's a script.
Speaker 1: We didn't stay in school for math.
Speaker 2: There it's there. No, No, we didn't spend much time
in school at all.
Speaker 1: No. We we looked at it and we knew this
isn't worth the time, this isn't work.
Speaker 2: We can do better, We can do better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were producing movies in nineteen ninety four. We
were like ten and eight. At that point we.
Speaker 2: Already hadn't figured out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree, it's too much like such a
wordy title. You look at something as simple like Zach
Snyder's Justice League to the point god title God Team
makes sense forwards. This maybe it's also forwards, but just
too much meetings. Like you said, the numbers, the Spanish numbers,
and again it's just like the first steps that what
do we step in two. This is this is a
thirty six movie. The MCU first steps more like should
be the last steps, and hopefully luckily it looks like
like this thing is gonna crater in week two. I
can't I can't wait to see what happens.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I went. I went to the theater
to so, you know, so that I could fulfill the
part of the contract. Then I my first steps right
out that door and I left. But barely after the
I couldn't even get through that stupid Marvel like when
they say the Marvel logo and they have like their
their same song every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fantastic four will turn in Avengers Doomsday. Know who's
not gonna return us? We ain't return home, absolutely not.
That's not worth our time at all.
Speaker 2: So what's your first reason?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my first reason is this is how just fundamentally
wrong they get it. No doctor Doom in this movie.
Director said, hey, we're not putting Doom in here. We
want the we want you to learn about the team
fan for Stick, you got the Doom in there and
arguably made some changes, but for the best, because it
was a perfect adaption to the character. What's better than
oh Man was scary mask. Let's just have this mask
melt to his face and there's nothing more scary than that.
You know.
Speaker 2: I was, and they actually did it too. It's yeah,
that's why the guy still looks like.
Speaker 1: That's why that guy he went on to play Colba
and the Apes movies because he can't act. His face
is messed up. He has to play CGI characters now.
But that's all the better. He's great. Hopefully when the
Snyer Versus restored, we get Toby Keble and he can
play something else because they're just doing the side. But yeah,
the best game.
Speaker 2: He was actually over for dinner the other night. Oh really,
he was using some of the spoons that I had to.
He's a great guy. He's a great.
Speaker 1: Don't don't wash any the ones you gave him. I
want those ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll leave some of the juicies the good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll put up there doom actor fan for stick,
you know, and people just know, like, oh it peaked that,
Like that's how we're there. They don't put in the
first movie. Oh, let's good, Robert Downey. That's how unoriginal
they are for ideas. We there's millions of actors in
the world. Let's just use the same guy we've been
paying for years and we said we'd kill him all like,
no originality, there has never been originality MCU. But I thought,
maybe you never know, something might.
Speaker 2: Change after sixty thousand projects that they've done, that maybe
they would accidentally stumble into some creativity.
Speaker 1: No, let's use the same guy again. So yeah, all
the doomed stuff or lack thereof, and again even when
they do doom now, Danny's gonna get nothing on Toby Keble,
Like that's just it's laughable. They should have brought him
back if they wanted any chance. Like again, I'll give
them credit the fact that they put Henry Cavill in
that Wolverine movie. They knew that would bring in the money.
If they if they want their money, bring back Toby Keple.
Speaker 2: If they bought back that other guy who's he played
like I think he played Captain America. I forget his name,
but they brought him back in that movie too, and
he was playing character right that he played back in
the day. But if they have done a character from
Fan Forster or from our film, yeah, that it would
been two billion dollar movies.
Speaker 1: To imagine that comic Con were dynted was mask and
it was totally kebbled. Also Scar but took it off.
I think the world will just explode it. The world
couldn't have handled it.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it survived? Wouldn't it survived.
Speaker 1: We still can't go to Comic Con because some legal stuff,
but we're gonna get back there one Yeah, we're gonna
host a panel there and people they keep asked those
wouldn't get to host paneled Comic Con, and uh, it's coming.
Don't worry once we get once we fulfill our legal duties,
we're coming.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay. My next reason, yeah, is once again
it goes back to the authenticity you talked about with Doomsday.
Through experimental treatments, they were able to transform this gentleman
into this form similar thing that they didn't fan Forstic
and our movie. I'll say once again for the thing. Okay,
it's kind of like the opposite of a skincare routine
that transforms your skin into kind of this rocky, dusty
like crater. But what they do in this new one
first steps, it's all CG, CGI, slot PGI trash. Where
is the authenticity? I want to see skin crusted and maimed.
That will never look the same ever again. I want
to see method acting, just like once again Jared Letto,
method actor. I want to see the thing actors, method acting.
And they got this new guy in here, just lazy.
He's not even in the movie. He's just a voice
pretty much right, because it's all yeah, cg.
Speaker 1: He just recorded on his phone, sent a text, took
him thirty minutes. No care, zero care, zero care, zero care, yeah,
zero care. I've seen the guy in the Bear. He
ain't nothing, you know, It's just same thing. Another guy
he was in Punisher, they used him again. Marvel's just
so lazy. Let's just reuse the same actors, pacy, But
I love that pic. If Jared Leto was in there,
he would have won every award possible, Independent Award, Oscar Award.
Maybe he would have saying that would have gave him
a Grammy too, he would have he would have revolutionized.
Speaker 2: The my favorite band too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thirty seconds Mars. I can't. I'm gonna go
to Mars and just rock that music on there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more like thirty seconds till I'm about to
about to burst, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know what you mean I knew pudding now yeah, alright,
my final reason again talk about you know actors they
use all the time. Same thing in this route, Pedro Pascal,
a guy that's in it, just obnoxious in everything. Yeah,
I'm so sick of this guy everything. Everyone's like, oh,
but he's a good actor. But look at all Joel,
look at this. He's so different all his roles, same
thing as Downy is doom. Did they just search up
most popular actor and boom number one? You know this guy,
Like there should there should be a limit of the
things you can be in. I think it's kind of
rude that just keeps taking these roles from other people,
you know, like he's just stealing them. No one, no
one else was gonna get a chance, no one else,
Like we're not gonna see the next Henry cavill Or
next year, Lettle. If this guy just takes Attle role
like the midrane, the minitarian, who's the guy he plays
in Star Wars. He's a helmet guy, I think.
Speaker 2: It's like it's Boba Boba something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, same thing could have gave that role to
a voice actor. Voice actors out to struggle Attle time no,
on Pedro, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: You never cavil to do it. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. You know he's the one guy exception of
the rule. And he was used in that awful because
again Scenari, I had nothing to do this, that awful
Wonder Woman sequel, but same thing, like you did a
comic book thing. You should never do more than two
comic book things. But here he is taking more roles
from people. Just truly, truly obnoxious. Just the goal on
this guy. And I like him. I bet if I
saw him in the streets, I wouldn't talk to him.
Speaker 2: No, no, And you notoriously talked to everyone in the streets.
Speaker 1: Very friendly guy. People know me by name, and.
Speaker 2: You are just going to the coffee shop. We can
barely make it a block without several conversations and misdemeanors.
It's just it's never ending with you.
Speaker 1: Autographs, phone numbers, photos, feet, looking all that, like people
want it all from me. When I walk in restaurants,
people it erupts. It's like every time I go in restaurant,
it's like downy. When he took off that mask, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, can I lick that spoon? After you're done with it.
That's that's the level of fandom that you have out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have tons of spoons. I love spoons, so.
Speaker 2: I'll get in a couple more for you too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, oh, I guess that's it, eh? Or did
you do your second reason? I got so fired up by.
Speaker 2: Patro so I'll give you one. I'll give you one
last one here And it's the same as Superman. You
talked about how all these freaking characters in here, like,
come on, like, let's just focus on a good story.
Same with this Fantastic four Firs steps they have like Herbie,
this little robot in there. But like fan Forcetic, to
me is just a master work, a masterpiece of a script.
It's perfect. It's to the point you get the backstory.
They know exactly when to do a nice one year
later skip. It's like, we don't need to see that crap.
We just want to get into the action, get into
the fun stuff, get into the great character moments. But
in said this new one, it's thrown. There's like a
kid in there. Kids, multiple villains that aren't doom might
had uh, there's freaking robots. It's like, what are we
doing here? Can we just get down to brass tacks
and focus on what matters, what makes a good movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the phenomenal four, you know that's what. Yeah. And
even Hervey again more unriginal. Don't they have like a
car name, like a car movie, Herbie the love Bug
or something like that. Like they're just like what do
we that's it is? But they just they're lazy. They
just look different, Yeah, different, Hervey the True j the
two g but like to be the tu Gi. But
to me, it's like they just looked at their Popla
tiles like, oh, like the same thing downy Paigro Herbie.
Like they're just picking se o words. So people when
they're trying to like, you mean, when we like to
watch Herbie every month, they're gonna make it that every
time it's a Herby, this stupid robot comes up, you know,
every time I search to re Ridgers now Paedro Pascal,
Like they're just trying to infect robots.
Speaker 2: I don't like dogs. Yeah, I'm not into that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think they're doing this because they know Marvels
in trouble, so just hitting us with all the SEO
from all corner. So it's it's one of those things
where I all have this conversation and then I'll pullp
my phone and it's just thousands of ads of Marvel
stuff and so like, I don't want it. I've been
on the phone with Facebook, with Twitter, it's everybody and like, yeah, yeah,
mister snail will take care of it. I opened the
phone double the amount of stuff on that. They won't stop.
Just Peedro keeps trying to follow me. It's like, sorry, don't,
won't be a friend. Sorry, not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I know he's trying to get in everyone's pockets and
he knows that, you know, we're big deals.
Speaker 1: He wants to be in the next picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but he can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm getting my lawyers are there. He's given
us the three two one. We already want a little
bit over, you know, hopeful, hopefully if anything gets cut out,
just know that we geek versus doing this. This is
not us. They're always against us. But yeah, censorship, you know,
we should be getting more, but always as usual. Just
like hashtag restore the Steivers, hashtag we want hunk a hunkah,
hashtag we want ahh n do that for short. It works.
We're gonna try and see. You know, we're both sometimes
we're not allowed to use the internet money and a Friday.
That's another legal thing, but we're working on it.
Speaker 2: A minor yeahor thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's just they're out to get us. You know.
They just keep doing this stuff to us, and it's
just alone.
Speaker 2: Just leave us alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfair the treatment that we were nice to.
Everybody ever said a bad word about anybody, Why would
they do this to us? So, yeah, Jack Styre, thanks
for you know, join me again here. Hopefully.
Speaker 2: I got so fired up. I know it's always happens,
but you're telling the truth. Yeah, it's true. The truth
hurts sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the truth hurts. I'll set you free. Happy, Happy
ten year to the geek first. Hopefully when you hear
from us next, it's not going to be in the
next six seven years, whatnot. Hopefully we'll be back in
full force. But everybody that does support us, we love you,
we cherish you. You're the absolute best. You know the truth,
the truth is out here, and the truth is us.
Speaker 2: Good Night, Goodbye,