Speaker 1: All right, welcome in and his Friday, and it's time
for full court press. That stream went took forever to
go live, but it looks like we are live.
Speaker 2: I started having aince.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, at least that's what this
little red light suggests on my screen. So hope you
can see us and hear us. And yeah, how is
your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Brian?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know you ask me how my Thanksgiving was? Any year,
I'll tell you the same thing. Okay, what's going on
right now? I ate too much yesterday. My wife is
inexplicably putting up Christmas decorations right now, and I just
want to like go in the basement and watch games
and seek refuge. That's that's what we're gonna do. But
before we do that, of course, we've got an hour
to break down a college hoops like that. I'm very
excited about Trigg because I'm not very excited about the
college football slate at all today. So I really dove
even more into this than I wouldn't normally because very excited.
That's some very interesting game. We have, what twenty eight
teams still undefeated in the country. We're guaranteed to lose
at least one, and I think over the next week
or so we're gonna lose certainly a lot more than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still excited to break down the card. I've
had a couple of rough days. I was joking yesterday
it turned into famine week for me. Brian, it was
feast week on Monday when I went five and one.
It's it's been famine week ever since. I've had one
of the worst sort of three day coolers that I've
had in quite some time, which is like, yeah, and
just it is what it is. I guess I feel
like I've beat numbers. I feel like I have eight
point leads in the second half of a lot of
these games and.
Speaker 3: They just don't win. So we got to get it right.
We got to write the ship well.
Speaker 2: On one positive note here, Trig, I didn't know that
you had dropped a couple earlier in the day yesterday,
but I was very pleased because I knew you had
had the two rough days. We didn't speak yesterday obviously
or the day because I was running around, but you
and I both had Colorado State money line, yes, and
I saw you tweeted that play out I had it.
We did not speak at all, folks. So if you
had the package or anything and got Colorado State from
the both of us, there was no communication on that.
That would just do. Great minds coming together, And that
was a pretty easy one.
Speaker 1: See, That's what I'm talking about. When it's when you're
running good, that's an easy one. When you're running like
I have the last couple of days, a twenty one
point lead becoming a six point.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I felt terrible for you, Yeah, because I knew, yeah,
you had to be Yeah, he had to be. I was,
but I was cursing the Ravens offense at that time
as well too with the on the other screen.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, we got that one done.
Speaker 1: We actually agree on one today that we'll talk about
on this show. That's a client play for both of us.
And it's Friday, we got a new slate of games.
It's also November. That's the thing I feel like for
me personally, I'm kind of like the baseball player that
comes out maybe I started in like a two for
twenty three slump, and I've got to look at my
batting average on the scoreboard. You know how that happens
in baseball where guys hitting like fuck ten through the
month of April, and.
Speaker 3: It's like, sucks that you have to look at that,
but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna turn it around, and we've got
a bunch of people in here now, so let's get
right into it. Feature game. I showed up dressed for
the occasion Madison Square Garden early tip. I think this
one is like twelve thirty or one o'clock, but it
is the biggest game of the day, so we've got.
Speaker 3: To talk about it.
Speaker 1: Well thirty twelve thirty, Yeah, and MSG will be bumping.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing about New York City.
Speaker 1: MSG does not matter what time, and if it's a
Yukon Huskies game, you can expect that the folks will
be out in droves for that. It'll be all Yukon
fans Stores West as some.
Speaker 3: May call it.
Speaker 1: They always get a big time turnout at the Garden.
And it's a big time game against an Illinois team
that you've been pretty high on this year. So talk
to Yukon Illinois line move, what do you think is
going on here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve thirty on Fox. This is absolutely going to
be on one of my many screens in the basement,
and I don't agree with this line move. Maybe you
have some information which will tell me why the line
is moving the way it has. I'm a little lower,
you know. You talk about me being it's sort of
two fold Trig. Number one, I'm pretty high on this
Illinois team right now. Number two kind of like Yukon
and Florida, I'll say, like my power ratings are sort
of like bizarrely low. I've been looking into it. I'm like,
is this I was so mad I didn't bet. I
didn't fade Florida yesterday because my numbers said to fade Florida.
They've kind of consistently been saying to faidh the defending
national champs. But as for this game, I make this
game a pick them, you know. And and with the
line moving the way it has, at some point I
may get interested in taking the points with the fighting
a line, I hear, why would I do such a thing. Well,
not just straight numbers, guys, Illinois is a team up
front that can actually compete with Yukon. Right we talk
about this Yukon team, Trig. What do we always talk about, Well,
we talked about how great they are, But Illinois third
in the country in rebounding margin. I think they're getting help.
You know, I know you I think I don't think.
I know because we had the conra I was there
for the conversation before we went live. But you're talking
about Yukon maybe getting a little healthier, Illinois maybe get
a little healthier as well. Joey Cheese, I see in
the chat. I knew, if you know. I was actually
while I was delivering this soliloquis, I was like, you know,
I hope Joey Cheese is not catching the show live today.
I'm not a hater, Joey Cheese. I am simply reporting
what my spreadsheet tells me to say here, and I
think Illinois it's not gonna make my card. I'll be
very honesty. I'm not going to bet the game. I
am simply here to tell it because I know people
get very upset. Oh you said this a few hours ago.
All I'm telling you, guys, is I make this game
a pick them, and if this number continues to move,
maybe then I do get involved on the ALI and I.
But that was a kind of a long winded answer
just to say I don't agree with the line move.
Speaker 1: Cheese knows is the Yukon Husky's like, that's his demon
and he's very tuned in there. So if he says
Champs by double digits, of course he's referring to the
back to back titles that they've recently won, then I
kind of agree with him. Now, you kind of missed
your chance to do it. I'm seeing four at some books,
three and a half pretty much everywhere. The line move
to me, Yeah, yeah, there's a four at Caesars right now.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: The line move to me just says that Reed is
definitely playing and that maybe Yukon is healthier than Illinois is.
So both teams had guys miss recently. I know that
the terrorists. Reid missing was kind of a surprise, I
think to some you know, when it kind of came
out an hour before the game, and I don't think
it was was really known at all.
Speaker 3: So he's back.
Speaker 1: That's huge for Yukon, and like BP, my numbers are
a little bit under on the other side. So Joey
I'm seeing, he says, with Reed and Mullins healthy. Yeah,
Mullins was the other one that had missed. He said
his or this line should be closer to seven and
I was kind of in that boat too. Now, this
is a neutral floor game, but this is one one
building where I will bump home court a little bit.
For Yukon. It's going to be all Ukon fans. They've
turned out at the Garden for years. As you can see,
very very unorganized. As to where I wrote, here we go. Yeah,
I had the six point twenty five. Oh Yukon minus
six point twenty five for my number. But these types
of games, and also for me like Illinois, a healthy
Illinois team is still very capable of winning this game.
And that's the other thing. It was hard to determine
the exact health of both teams. So the reason I
didn't bet it at the open or earlier this morning
is I didn't want to show up and have Illinois
fully healthy and you U kond of have guys out
and suddenly it's gonna tilt it. But yeah, stores, Joey says,
stores South. That's what I think I called it Stores West.
I meant to call it Stores South. It'll be all
Yukon fans. I do like the Huskies. It's why I
showed up in my Husky jacket today.
Speaker 2: Briant okay As always I'll just set it up. That's
why I wore a polo sweater. Here a few things.
Somebody asked in the chat, what is the number that
you would consider Illinois. I would say six. I don't
think that's gonna get there, So again that's why I say,
I imagine I'll be on the sidelines on number two.
I think the only person walking the face of the
earth that it would be worse to be angry at
me than Dan Hurley would be Joey Cheese. So I
would hate to anger him. I mean, that's certainly two
very intense individuals. And then something that you know, in
terms of not showing value here on Yukon. I'm a
little surprised by that trick because this is a team
that's one in five against the number Yukon. So I mean,
you know, I mean, this is this is a short number.
You look at the spreads we've seen so far. They
were minus five against Arizona lose that game out right.
They were minus six and a half against BYU let
him back in late and didn't cover there. The other
spreads were all gigantic, So I don't know how much
you take away from that, but you know, they have
had two single digit spreads and failed the cover. So
I usually when a team's one and five against the
spread trig, I do start to show value on them,
unless if they're loyal to Chicago. But I don't know.
I just my numbers are what they are, and I
love my numbers, and I don't I don't know. I'm
gonna probably just sit this one out.
Speaker 1: I guess listen BYU and Arizona, both very very good teams, and.
Speaker 2: I've got and I've got Illinois righted right with those teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Illinois at full strength probably
belongs in the mix there. Like a full strength Illinois
team is in that sort of like caliber of team
category of team. Last time out, like Yukon completely dominated Bryant,
they just like didn't cover thirty five and a half,
those those spreads of like thirty five and a half
like that, that was the type of game and I
caught some of that game where like they could have
probably named their score if if Hurley wanted to win
that game by fifty, he would have right like it
was in hand by halftime.
Speaker 3: So again that's another non cover on Yukon's ledger.
Speaker 1: That's just like I think they had another one earlier
this season, maybe against New Haven, where it was just
like he he probably just decided to not embarrassed someone
on that day, you know, just for the sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, unlike.
Speaker 1: The last time, Unlike the last time these two teams played,
where I think he dropped a thirty zero.
Speaker 3: Run on Illinois at one point.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, that's right, that's right. We should that.
That absolutely needs to be brought up. I mean, I
know the players, you know, the names have changed, but
the numbers love me when I win. Re thank you
for that. That was a very good guys. That's my
early that's my clubhouse leader for common of the day.
But yes, we absolutely need to mention this. Shame on me.
I was going to do that in the intro. Last
time these teams met, it was the Elite eight, and
the game was close for the first part of the
first half, and then Yukon went on the kill shot
of all kill shots. Trademark Evan Maya with that term.
So you know, yeah, So I don't know how if
that matters at all in the handicap here. The fact
that the last time these teams played, Ukon annihilated in
the tournament because it's two different teams.
Speaker 1: I think what Joey's saying makes sense, and I think
this is fair as in general statement to be like
Yukon's been banged up, Like that's the thing. You know,
this is the top five team in the country that
really hasn't been healthy yet this season. But unlike a
lot of other teams in there, like weight class, they've
already racked up like big games at Arizona, you know
BYU like they they've played a bunch of top competition.
I guess I guess that now this week everyone's starting
to play like big games, but you know, they had.
Speaker 3: Already played them, they were banged up.
Speaker 1: If they show up to the garden healthy, I'm kind
of I kind of do think that this is a
Yukon by margin title.
Speaker 2: All right, So what have we learned in the last
What have we learned in the last several minutes? Everyone,
Brian Power is the only human being walking the face
of the earth that believes this game should be lied
closer to a pickup. There we go, So get out
with your bad self, everybody.
Speaker 1: I do think you're I do think you're gonna see
Resistance at four, like I think, I think the fest
will be gone. It looks like it looks like there's
some books that are gonna hold at three. And so
you know, I think if you like Yukon your your
your best bet is to try to grab maybe one
of those minus threes or play it on the money line.
And if you like Illinois, I think your spot to
buy in is probably four. I don't think it's going
to get higher than that. All right, Brian Power, We're
so we desperately need to hit a parlay on this show.
I knew we set on realistic expectations when we came
out eight and hit three in the first week.
Speaker 3: We have not hit one yet.
Speaker 1: But since there's just two of us today, we're going
to go with the same sort of formula that we've
done the past couple two man show days, where it's
I pick a game, you pick a game, and then
we have a joint game. And about two minutes before
we came on the show, we realized we had a
joint client play a game that we were both looking
at both locked in before the show. So let's give
that one out now. I'll let you started off. Since
this is both number just moved.
Speaker 2: I actually have to lock it in. I'm an idiot.
I didn't lock it in after we talked about it.
So I have to lock this in right now. This
is going to be a client play. Everybody let me well,
I stare trig if you want to, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: I'll tee it up while while you're locking that in.
I gave you I think sixteen and a half. There's
probably still sixteens. We're going to talk about Butler in
Right State. I believe this is also an early game. Correct,
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I think two PM game. This is at Hinklefield House.
Speaker 1: So for me, I know, like personally, after the blood
bath that was the last couple of days for me,
I'm definitely gravitating more toward just like the the campus,
like the normal games. I'm getting a little bit away
from the MTES. I think there's just a lot of
like crazy results. I mean, you're playing multiple games, multiple days,
tropical locations. It's that the results have been all over
the place. I've been on the wrong side of some
of them. So these are the types of games, just
a normal game on a Friday, Right State. Butler used
to be a little bit of Arion this.
Speaker 2: Was a good rivalry in the Horizon League. Yeah, the
Horizon hasn't been the same since Butler left, but I
think it's a good spot here. Dragged to sell high
on Butler. They won an MT out in Greenbrier, West Virginia.
The name of that country closes place, looks sick, that place,
it's it's the Browns have practice there and stuff in
the past or not. But so Butler out in the MT.
They beat South Carolina seventy nine to seventy two, is
a four point favorite, and then they upset Virginia six
and a half point underdogs, eighty to seventy three. You
look at those two games, guys, and they were both
pretty impressive performances for the Bulldogs. They shot sixty one
percent in the second half against South Carolina. It was
a similarly hot start to the game against Virginia. And
as you crack open the statistical profile for the Butler team, guys,
you're gonna find that they've shot the three very well
so far. Right, anytime a team's playing well, chances are
they're shooting the three well well. Butler's twenty second nationally
from behind the arc forty point three percent They're doing
an excellent job at cleaning up the offensive glass as well,
fourth highest offensive rebound percentage nationally. So you shoot the
three at a forty percent clip, you're collecting that high
of a percentage of offensive rebounds. Drag no a prize
that you're doing well. But I thought the number, which
did get as high as sixteen and a half, had
moved too far off the opener. Right State can do
a few things to frustrate their old Horizon League rival
and keep this one close one. The Raiders are also
an excellent three point shooting team right at forty percent,
so three point shooting for the year is kind of
a wash between these two teams. Defensively, Right State turns
you over a lot, about twenty percent of all possessions.
That's top sixty in the country. And then Right State
also likes to play slow. Can they win the pace war?
Hopefully they can. They're three hundred and tenth and adjusted tempo,
so Right State can slow the pace down trick for
some turnovers, hit some threes. I see no reason why
they can't at the very least stay within the number here. Again,
I think we're pretty close to the peak of the market.
On Butler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Right State, So in what will be a very
wide open horizon this year.
Speaker 3: Like they.
Speaker 1: We were picked closer to middle of the pack, fifth, sixth,
seventh by a lot of folks, and I think they're
gonna be closer to the top. So, like I'm pretty
high on Right State just from like where they were
projected to finish type standpoint. Part of the reason I
really like them is so they they really didn't play
any defense last year, and their head coach, Clint Sargent,
came out talked about that, like really wanting to be
better on the defensive end of the floor this season,
And anytime I've watched them play, that's been the case
that you just referenced them being scrappy forcing turnovers, like
this is just a much better defensive team than what
Right State was a year ago. And so and a
lot of times, especially in these smaller conferences, with these
teams that don't get a ton of national attention, like
that will go unnoticed.
Speaker 3: Right So, like you look at their their numbers from last.
Speaker 1: Year, then you'll look and say, okay, well, you know
they've had a you know, they had a couple of
games like that.
Speaker 3: The cat actually be right.
Speaker 1: State against cal I thought that they hung around in
that game and did a great job.
Speaker 3: They covered the number and were very competitive.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you want to just take a
quick comparison, Callum Butler similar like they're not, you know,
I would say Butler's better, but not by a ton
and Wright. State hung step for step with Calum covered
on their home floor a hosp pavilion, so that was
going all the way across the country grad to cover there.
Speaker 2: This is just right.
Speaker 1: State one stayed over, not not too much travel. So
again there's there's They've played on the road and played
all right. The win over Radford is actually quite impressive
in my opinion. Like I think Radford like coming into
the season, you want to talk about another projection, I
thought Radford was the team that could kind of maybe
compete with High Point in the Big South. Everyone thinks
high Points gonna run away with the Big South, and honestly,
they probably will, but like to me, Radford's the one
team that looks like a contender, and they came out
and played a pretty good game against I bet this
on Monday and one and it's I think it was
SMU on Monday where they hung around, really had one
sort of lull in that game, and otherwise they covered
the number, competed the entire time. Reason I bring that up,
Right State destroyed that team ninety two to fifty nine,
absolutely destroyed Radford. So you talk about in season results
for Right State a cover against Cal. The Toledo game
we talked about on the show just being a straight
up bad matchup for Right State.
Speaker 3: So they lose to Toledo at home. That was a
bad matchup for them.
Speaker 1: They have not done anything that puts me off thinking
that they're a little bit undervalued.
Speaker 3: They're playing better defense. So yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I took the sixteen and a half as well, and
that's a three percent play for me.
Speaker 3: And that's also going to be the first leg of
the parlat.
Speaker 2: Three percent play for me, So you're getting for free.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, well, since we're gonna lock the parley in at
the end of the show, we'll we'll wait and see
what kind of number we can get on that, like
at the show closed, but honestly, like I was closer
to wear it opened. So as long as like Right
State doesn't take like an avalanche of money in the
next forty minutes. I think, I think we're gonna be
good to play.
Speaker 2: That, And so it peaked at sixteen and a half.
It's down pretty much to fifteen now. Yeah, and I
can see it going back towards the opener. Fan Duels
Down is the first one that's back down to fourteen
and a half for the record, fifteen and a half
still at Draft gams.
Speaker 1: So shop, I'll tell you what we'll Yeah, well we'll
say fifteen and a half and then I may just
attach to minus one twenty to it, so people can
just either play fifteen if they want, or fifteen and
a half. It's uh yeah, I and the chat asked
good at fifteen, like yeah, I think, so I've got this.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is going to.
Speaker 2: Be I made it thirteen. Yeah, I made the number thirteen,
so I actually was actually lower than the opener. So yeah,
as long as it doesn't get lower than the opener.
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty sure this is on National TV.
I think this might be a CBS Sports Network game.
If I'm missing up.
Speaker 2: I actually have that, and the reason i'm page up,
I can confirm that in the minute.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's ESPN PLU.
Speaker 1: This is this game is probably a much bigger deal
for Right State than it is for Butler. Like I
just I feel like this is just a bigger deal
for them, and if they show up, they're probably keeping
it within single digits.
Speaker 2: So they've had a couple extra days to prepare too.
They've had a couple extra days to prepare.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll touch this one real quick. Garth in
the chat. First of all, thank you for the donation.
Much appreciated. If you likes, subscribes comments, everything helps and
we'll make sure that we hit your game if you
do donate to the channel. So Garth says thoughts on
Southeast Louisiana and Gardner Web. He leans Southeast Louisiana covering
the six and a half drag kind of leans that
way as well.
Speaker 3: Don't know why I'm referring to myself in the third
person all of a sudden, but that's the way I lean. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what I'll point out about this game, this is
one of those weird mtes that's like a school hosts
it and then four teams go and so this is
this game is actually in Wilmington, North Carolina, So this
is the un see Wilmington sort of MT where four
teams go, they all play each other. Obviously Wilmington gets
home games out of it, and then Southeast Louisiana and
Gardner Webb play in front of three people. That's pretty
much what will happen here, right, probably four people in
attendance for this game, maybe some Gardner Web fans because
they're geographically closer. That being said, I think Gardner Webb
is a dad basketball team this year.
Speaker 3: I have them reached.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and and the thing is, it's like you
could say, well, they're gonna win one at some point,
Well they're gonna cover at some point. Yeah, probably, but
it'll most likely it's probably gonna happen at home or
like against a team that that they're equals with. I mean,
I suppose, like you can look at it this two ways, Brian,
and I'll actually I'm curious to see what you're like
mindset is for this type of game.
Speaker 3: Both of these teams just played. So this is the
next day in an MT.
Speaker 1: I think Gardner Web got absolutely buried by Navy yesterday,
and I believe the Southeast Louisiana.
Speaker 3: Score was a little bit deceiving.
Speaker 1: They were more in that game with Wilmington than the
final score suggests. Like, I know, I think Wilmington kind
of covered at the end, but Southeast Louisiana was pretty competitive.
I wish our guy, Keith Bayou Betts Landry was in
the chat today because that's Southeast Louisiana is his squad.
He is my guy for Southeast Louisiana info. But just
from what I've seen out of these two teams, like
there is a clear difference, like Southeast Louisiana. If Southeastuisia
Louisiana shows up and cares about this game at all,
they should win by double digits.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, so let me just I looked
up so South East Louisiana yesterday against Wilmington. They were
up six of the half drag.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: They were winning out right at the half of that game,
and then they just got blitzed in the second, got
out scored forty three to twenty four over the last
twenty minutes. Now, the Gardner Webb running bulldogs here, it's
not going well. They lost yesterday. I mean they lost
by thirty three against Navy. That's real bad, weary, that
is Look, let me look, I'm just gonna score on
the bottom Like Gardner Webb has got to be one
of the worst teams in the country, right. I mean,
this is like just the I have them as I
have them as a bottom five team in the country.
The teams that are worse are all swack teams. So
Gardner Webb, there's just nothing to like here at all.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you know I defense, like, God, is this team
bad defensively? You look at I'm not gonna lie, Okay.
I don't sit and watch Gardner Webb on the television
every day, so I'm just like looking at the numbers
here and that this is o bleak picture, something that's
interesting to me. If you don't want to lay it
with Southeast Louisiana. A lot of times I get a
little gun shy about laying it with teams because I'm
Southeast Louisiana. We're not exactly gonna seeing them in the
final four come April. Trigg, needless to say, if you
like them, maybe a team total over in honor of
our our third colleague, Rob Veno, because they have not
shot the three well. And this is a game, a
match up, if you will, to me, where the offense
gets right for Sela.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and the other thing you got to point
out with Southeast Louisiana in terms of like shooting the ball,
just look at their first look at their their first
four games, or really all five of their games. Right,
Like UNC, Wilmington is very very good basketball team. They
have not had CJ luster yet this year. And I
think that they've still only lost one game and it
was a game that they could have absolutely won against
Kent State, and that's a good Kent State team, and
that was on the road. That's Wilmington's only lost. Like
Wilmington is right, they will be right in the mix
with Towson and and who maybe I don't even think
Charleston's on their level.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Twison or Wilmington in
the CIA.
Speaker 1: But this is a really really good team and they
always play well at home Trash Coliseum. I don't know
if they're the you know, if the what the atmosphere
was like last time, they didn't catch that, but like
almost every home game for them, Wilmington is like a
Rockets atmosphere. It's one of the better big major sort
of like crowds that you're going to get on a
game in a game out basis. So like, the reason
I bring that up is aside from the non D
one game that doesn't really get factored into numbers that much,
that that's us.
Speaker 3: That's Seela's one win.
Speaker 1: Southeast Louisiana this year has played at all Miss, at
Louisiana Lafayette, at Georgia Tech, at Mississippi State, and now
at UNCW because even though this is an MTE, that's
of course a home game for Wilmington. So five road
games and now they're going to essentially drop in class
from like Power Conference teams or a Wilmington team that's
probably going to the NCAA tournament down to what you
have called a bottom ten team in the country. And
I really can't disagree with you there. So yeah, I
mean I made this. I know I made this number
a little bit low, like I showed a slight edge
to SILA on the number. But yeah, I think that
them scoring because again this is a noon tip.
Speaker 3: It could turn into a free for all. Maybe the
team total over is the way it goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to put a number here, they Sila shot
seventeen percent in this building yesterday from three, so you
would expect Obviously that number is gonna go up should
we get to this Vcuva Tech game, because I think
the chick may come at it because it's about the tip,
and the chant's gonna come at us with pitchforks if
we don't talk about it before it tips. I look,
it's not guys. Remember people catch us on the replay
and they don't want to They're gonna speed through games
that have already tipped. I don't. Look, it's a hard
game to handicap because you're talking about a ten to
three am Eastern tip one day removed from both teams
not playing well. It's a consolation bracket and an MTE honestly,
and why I don't want to bet this game Trake
is because it involves something that I can't quantify. Who's
gonna want I think it honestly just comes down and
this is not something This is not an adage that
I say very often a wager talk TV. This comes
down to who wants it more? Who woke up this
morning and wants to win this game? You know, Because
if one of those teams is kind of like whatever,
and the other one really wants it, that's what's gonna happen.
I would say that maybe Va Tech they failed to cover.
Now four in a row, you can get what was
it two and a half three? Now I might if
you force me to make a bet, I would take
the three with the Hokies. But it's it's not gonna
make my card.
Speaker 3: It looks like Toby Lawal will remain out for this game.
Speaker 1: Problem Yeah yeah, I mean he's a he averages a
double double. So like you know, even though he was
out last game as well, that's that's a tough guy
to not have, yes, and that's.
Speaker 2: Why then that's why the line is moving. I would
suspect that's.
Speaker 3: Why the line is moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a a tough guy to not have
in there if you're Virginia Tech. In my opinion, so
I think that like again, I have absolutely no desire
to bet this game. This ten thirty tip in the Bahamas,
Like you said, like who wants it?
Speaker 3: More of these rn? I think this was the one.
Speaker 1: Uh this location where like the first day of the tournament,
like no one could shoot. Now the shooting was like
a little bit better yesterday, so you know, lo Wall
being out, I don't know. I think maybe that lends
itself to like he is a good rim defender. You
could just go over. I would say, like over probably
makes some sense.
Speaker 2: Tech twenty points in the first half against Saint Mary's,
but again that's Saint Mary's, so I don't know. Yeah,
it was an easy pass for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd have to just to fire something
off here with like thirty seconds before the game tips.
I think I would either go VCU or over and
not with any sort of real conviction, So I guess
we had to cover it. We touched on that one,
and now we're gonna move off to a different game.
Let's uh, let's get back in the the chat here.
Appreciate you guys tuning in. I know everyone is uh
you know probably has other things to do this weekend
with family and stuff, so we appreciate that you made time,
uh to to listen to us chat basketball. Hopefully we
can put you on a winner or two I gave out.
I'll give it you know what. I'm gonna give out
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Speaker 2: We have to.
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Speaker 1: So I want to give out my leg the parlay,
and I'm gonna go to a late game Drake Lsu.
I'm gonna check the current number to see if it's
still there. But I played Drake plus twelve and a half.
I'm curious to see if, yeah, it's still twelve and
a half pretty much across the board. And so the
reason I like Drake is really two reasons.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: So this is a neutral court game down in Florida,
I believe, and Drake came out of the gate this
year and probably played as like far off of their rating,
as like maybe any team in the country. Those first
maybe week or two, they got completely.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost a game, they lost to Robert Morris
and they lost.
Speaker 3: To SIU Edwardsville.
Speaker 1: They didn't play good against a bad Northern Arizona team,
and those were that was essentially their first four games.
They had a non board game in there as well.
I felt like they turned the corner a little bit
in that Charleston game. And here's the key with Drake. Now,
this would just be the bonus of all bonuses if
this happens. Owen Larson has not played yet this year.
I doubt he plays tonight, but I do know that
the target for him coming back was like early December,
and I hadn't heard of They haven't updated it. I
don't think on a I haven't watched a Drake game.
Like Drake's last game was against a non Division one team.
It didn't catch that game. But the point is, like
he is so massive, and if he's like getting back
into practice and he's getting close to getting back, like
that's a plus for them, even if he's not back
on the floor yet. The second thing is Eric Henderson's
as a solid coach, like Drake is going to improve.
Speaker 3: It's not obviously McCollum anymore.
Speaker 1: He's now at Iowa, but Henderson comes I believe from
South Dakota State. He's always won there he's probably gonna
end up winning here. And then Brian, I'll let you
sort of fill in the blanks on LSU a little bit.
They really haven't played anyone yet. And the one game
that I think is super deceiving on LSU's ledger right now.
So they basically smashed five like fi you Omaha, Alcorn State, Tarlton,
New Orleans. That Tarlton game, they kicked out Carlton's best
player like five minutes into the game and then their
other best player played like one minute deceiving you know,
stat line there. They keep catching teams that are like
in bad spots. I think Omaha was banged up going
into that game last time out. So to me, LSU
has proved nothing yet. This is the toughest opponent that
they'll probably have played yet this year.
Speaker 3: And they finally leave that and Rouge now they're on
neutral floor and Florida.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say, Give me the.
Speaker 1: Twelve and a half points Drake plus twelve and a
half three percent play for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And while LSU has been impressive at the offensive end, drag,
I mean, they gave up eighty one to Elkorn, eighty
one to FIU seventy three to Omaha. They've not that
those aren't good defensive numbers at home at all. So yeah,
I think LSU is a potential cell high team, similar
to what we talked about with Butler earlier. I did
see a question in the chat. I think somebody must
have just missed it. Was it Jason or was it
I didn't market That's yes, Jason Jones in the chat.
Ass I haven't heard you guys mentioned Butler on the
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That's my promo right there.
Speaker 2: I agree. Like I said, I was very happy when
I saw you were in Colorado state last night with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're seeing on on a couple today as well.
So Cappy Corner says he's going to the Drake game.
I believe this is in Destin, Florida.
Speaker 3: Uh sounds nice. I'm looking out.
Speaker 2: I've been there before, to Dustin. That's that's my my, my,
uh wife's parents. They there, there's snowbirds. They drive all
the way around Florida. We've isn't there spring a spring break? Uh?
Spring training?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: In Destin? I believe, I believe. I believe I've caught
a spring training game in Dustin. Isn't that where the
Blue Jays play?
Speaker 1: No, it's needed it, but but still nest In, Florida
sounds fantastic.
Speaker 3: I am looking out my window right now.
Speaker 1: There's already six inches of snow and we're probably gotta know.
Speaker 2: We got driving all from my parents house last night
was horrible, but nobody wants to hear about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rough weekend here. We're getting a
lot of snow, So I'll just I plan on going nowhere.
I'm gonna be watching college basketball for like seventy two hours.
Maybe sprinkle in some football. Uh, maybe leave the house
at some point in time.
Speaker 2: I feel like I haven't in dates, but uh, it's
always going to get some fresh air.
Speaker 1: And one more thing before we move on. A great
little tidbit from from twelve Colcy. Here, he says, drake
Is won each of its last twelve games against non
ap ranked opponents at a neutral venue.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting stat this.
Speaker 2: Of course, is a did not have that well.
Speaker 1: Great stuff from the chat as always. All right, let's
let's keep it going. Uh, I mean, what were twenty
three minutes from from the end? Do you know what
your parlay leg is going to be? Do you? No?
Speaker 2: I don't there?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Right State? Yeah? Yeah, So let's go the chat here,
Santa Clara. We could talk.
Speaker 1: Well, I got I kind of got one I want
to I got Well, we should throw out let's because
this is an interesting game to me. So yesterday you
and I both agreed on Colorado State. I but but
I also think you and I were both more in
feed Wichita State mode. At least I was, like I
I didn't. I don't mind that Colorado State team. I
think Ali for Okmanesh is probably a much better coach
than people realize. Like he of course takes over for
Nico medved He was the top assistant there, but I
think he was the brains behind a lot of what
was going on. So I upgraded Colorado State in my
rankings from what I had the mat earlier in the season.
Speaker 3: That being said, they.
Speaker 1: Turn around and now have to play South Florida, who
is gonna a is going to just run them.
Speaker 3: Up and down the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, b has not played well yet in this tournament,
but they figured it out in the second half and
were able to come back and win in overtime. I
kind of lean USF here. I was curious to get
your take on this one.
Speaker 2: USF's not the kind of team you want to play,
uh without rest because just the stock basketball lay at
that point. Yeah, that that is just not a team. Yeah,
I mean, especially like at the end of an MT right,
So I mean this is what three games in three
days now in Atlantis. I mean, yeah, that's like the
one of the South Florida would be on the short
list of the absolute worst teams could play in a
third game in three days, you know, day after Thanksgiving,
that there certainly is a you know, a chance they
get run out of the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this, I may have to add this one too,
especially if before it moves and I can get a
cheap money line. I guess the reason I Brian Hodgson's
gonna play like he wants to play like Alabama plays.
That's his wholem o. It's what he did at Arkansas State.
He comes from the NATO's coaching tree. He wants to
go up and down shot Molume like it is going
to be crazy. The pace is going to be crazy.
And also, you know, I kind of made a joke
about it, but like Colorado State, if that game went
another five minutes, they may have lost that game.
Speaker 3: Like they thank god that Kenyan Giles.
Speaker 1: Finally missed in a crazy three that he chucked up
because they were really starting to ask for it. And
what happened, Wichita State was down so much that they
really just turned it into a game. They turned it
into the game that South Florida is gonna play right
out of the rip right like they started to press,
they started to like, you know, kind of get what
Wichita State had to get away from their game because
they were down twenty one, and they came all the
way back. Brian, I think they had it down to
six at one point with the ball. So if that's
the type of game that Colorado State's going to see
right off the bat, and they've played this many consecutive days,
I think I got to play USF here.
Speaker 2: You know what game we need to talk about because
it's a big game and it's in Atlantis. And I
mentioned at the top we still have twenty eight teams
undefeated in the country. We're guaranteed to lose one. The
reason we're guaranteed to lose one today, guys, is the
championship game of the Battle for Atlantis is Vanderbilt and
Saint Mary's. I you know, obviously Illinois Yukon is the
headliner today. It's why we open up the program. This
is unequivocally to be the second best game on the slate,
Vanderbilt and Saint Mary's. And it's a pace war. Who's
gonna win this game? Well, who dictates pace? These two
teams do not play the same at all. Vandy wants
to get up and down and it's it we just
talked about South Florida, right if third game in three
days now for Saint Mary's. We know how they like
to play slow, make you uncomfortable. We saw what they
did defensively against Virginia Tech. We talked about it earlier
in the program. Whoever dictates pace is going to win
this game. Obviously, I know that's kind of a cheap
way to get out of picking a winner here. But Vandy,
don't forget I'll say this a lot of times, revenge.
You know, we were talking about Butler and Wright State,
how it used to be a Horizon League rivalry. Obviously,
none of the players that are playing in this game
that they care about that at all. You know, that
was ten years ago. More than ten years ago. Those
teams are conference rivals. I mean, you know these kids were,
you know, still in grade school when that was going on.
But this is a situation with legit revenge on the
Vandy side. Trig they lost in the first round of
the NCAA Tournament to the Gales last year. I think
it's on the mind. I like this Vandy team quite
frankly small, lean to the Kamis here in the Atlantis Championship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really argue with that.
Speaker 1: I think Saint Mary's is one of those teams where
if they if if you play their game and they
get the game that they want, they're gonna be tough
to beat. But if you can get them out of that,
you know, it's it's like they we've seen them lose
to teams that are far worse than them when they're
very good. So it's like, really just about ken Vanderbilt
play the game they want to play. In my opinion,
if they do, then I think they've got just as
good a chance as any to win. So I can't
really disagree. I can't really argue with that. I got
a thought on this one. Let's let's uh we've got
eight team minute stuff. Well, we'll still hit a bunch
more games, but I know there's a ton of games,
and uh, we'll start to go a little bit quicker.
Speaker 3: We'll get Brian Parlay's part Brian Powers Parlay Way.
Speaker 2: Yeah even to say, easy to say.
Speaker 1: Be like Parlay Club Brian Parlay and anyway, any thoughts
on BYU minus ten and a half at day or Dayton.
Speaker 3: That's another MTE game down in somewhere.
Speaker 1: I think they're in Florida as well somewhere a lot
of a lot of these teams in Florida for the
for the weekend. Yes, I don't think Dayton is any
good like I think they I think they straight up
get smashed here. I don't know if like you're getting
much value on a BYU spread these days, because of
course they won and covered yesterday and and it feels
like everyone in the country loves this BYU team. Yes,
but like I think Dayton is a team that's gonna
like when they play competition that's like better than them.
I think they're gonna get run out of the gym.
They don't handle the ball well. They like a little
bit fortunate to win. Last night I watched them play
with Dune Cookman. They look terrible, totally just sloppy. That's
not gonna fly against BYU in my opinion. So I
would actually lay it with the Cougars here.
Speaker 2: Dayton's played a really weak You talk about being scared
of them when they step up in class. They've played
a pretty weak schedule to this point, Dayton two hundred
and twenty eighth in strength to schedule BYU. They've played
a much stronger schedule obviously, And you know, I their
only loss was the game against Yukon that we talked
about earlier. BYU doesn't turn the ball over. Dayton doesn't
turn you over. BYU doesn't. So you know, if you're
a lot of times for these underdogs to pull the upset,
they need to do one of two. They need they
need to either get hot from three or get extra
possessions with turning by turning you over. And I just
don't see Dayton doing that here at all. This game
is a Kissimi Florida by the way, for those keeping
spiral and another way, uh that you can create extra
possessions for yourself as offensive rebounding well, BYU is way
better than Dayton at that. So you know, it's a
big number to lay. But yeah, I think Dayton kind
of gets that there's the potential here for Dayton to
get run out of the gym.
Speaker 1: I think b YU, as the season goes along, is
going to continue to just get better and better. Like
they are, They're just gonna I have a feeling that
some of the you know, the results early on. I
think there was a game where they kind of let
like Delaware hang around something or something like that.
Speaker 3: Like by like January or February.
Speaker 1: This team is just gonna be a wagon, as the
kids like to say, Brian, like, they're just gonna smash
teams and Dayton. You want to talk about a reason
to downgrade Dayton. Dayton lost to Cincinnati. Our boys from
the MAC Eastern Michigan just beat the Cincinnati Bearcats as like, yeah,
twenty half point underdog.
Speaker 3: Like so that to me, like that loss looks a
lot worse to.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati, where Dayton wasn't even really that competitive loss by twelve,
That loss looks bad.
Speaker 3: Oh, the game you and I were together.
Speaker 1: And UNBC took Dayton to like the wire ended up
being like a six point game. There is a I
have my my concerns with Dayton. I know they managed
to beat Marquette, I don't know. I still just don't
think they're very good, like I think, you know, I
think blows him out.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Garth.
Speaker 1: He's donated again, so we're gonna we're gonna actually have
a pretty big opinion on this game. So trend play
Garth says. Trend Play Hawaii first half home games have
gone under in fifteen of the last twenty one play
Hawaii North Dakota first half under seventeen and a half. Now, Brian,
I'll let you comment on the totals trend. I do
wish we had Veno because he'd be all over any
sort of total type trend. But I do want to
talk about this game because I've had success playing against.
Speaker 3: This Hawaii team in their own building this year.
Speaker 1: The market loves Hawaii this year they have had They
probably have one of the better teams that they've had
in a while, and they look like a real threat
to contend in the Big West for the first time
in a while. With that being said, the number on
a lot of these games for Hawaii gets out of control.
I played Utah Tech in this same area. You know,
it steamed all the way up to like seventeen and
a half or something from like fourteen or thirteen, like
it will move like five points. It was like a
six point game, easy win. Last week I cashed with
Arizona State. They were an underdog at Hawaii. Didn't think
that should have been the case. Now they certainly wouldn't be.
They ended up winning that game. I'm seeing eighteen and
a half's here, like I'm gonna have to dig into
North Dakota a little bit more. But I'll tell you
right off the bat, like that I've got that shirt.
I'm gonna wait and see how the day goes, Brian.
But if they're just gonna keep pouring money into this
midnight Hawaii tip stand alone, that tends to happen a
lot of times with Hawaii when they played like a
home game, there will be a point where I'll be
willing to punch back and take take North Dakota. So
I lean North Dakota here. But Garth also asked about
the total, So I'll let you take that part of.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna make North Dakota my leg of the parlay.
This numbers, This number's way too high. This number is
way too high. I'm seeing like I see an eighty eight.
I know, yeah, I mean eight, it's up to eighteen. Yeah,
I mean I know it's circa that's lead, which always
makes you because it's a sharper book. But I just
can't get to this number. I mean, for it's a
straight numbers play. I hate to make you guys stay
up to cash this three legger, but hey, sometimes good
things come to those who wait. I just get I
just think this numbers. I thought the number was a
little high and open. Now it's moved an additional two points.
I just straight numbers play. I'm going North Dakota. There,
I get it with Trevor. I see what Trevor says
in the chat that North Yes, there is a chance
that that North Dakota. They fly out to Hawaii for
Thanksgiving weekend. It's a lot nicer in Honolulu than it
isn't far ago this time of year. I understand maybe
they get distracted, but I don't know. I just think
this number is way too high.
Speaker 1: I think for me, especially right now, I just don't
think Hawaii has like this huge home court edge that
everyone bakes into the number, like the building is going
to be half full at best. Like this isn't like
I feel like back in the Mountain West days when
Hawaii was in the Mountain West and played big games
and like San Diego State would come in or like
you know, like a like UNLV when they were good,
or a team like that, like a BYU.
Speaker 3: They would get a big crowd. They've been in the Big.
Speaker 1: West for a while, like they just did their home
games just don't have that kind of juice anymore, and
even last week getting a big twelve team in Arizona State,
like it was a good crowd, wasn't a great crowd.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like some like crazy atmosphere.
Speaker 1: So North Dakota's to me, is gonna be a lot
more like the Utah Tech game where it was like,
you know, like maybe half full. And again, I just
like the books are baking in this big home court
edge for Hawaii. And on top of that, because Hawaii
is a team that people are gravitating toward this year,
there's like it shaded to Hawaii as well. So that's
why our number is nowhere close to this. But I
think are I think we're right about that. I think
this should be close like thirteen, fourteen, eighteen. I mean,
they Hawaii to win by To win this game by
twenty is gonna have to dominate. I don't know if
Hawaii is good enough to truly dominate.
Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 1: They're good. They're gonna win a lot of games. They're
gonna win games like this, but win them by twenty.
I gotta pump the breaks there, so I'm gonna do you.
Speaker 2: They just they only won by twelve over a non
board team last time out now. They did beat Manhattan
jasper man your Manhattan Jaspers by thirty.
Speaker 1: Manhattan's been missing their best player all season.
Speaker 2: And then they beat missing and then they beat Mississippi
Valley State, who's of course just you know in atrocity.
They beat them by thirty two. And they started out
with three big wins, did the Warriors. But you know,
since then, I mean, yeah, they've played a few close.
The three straight games have been kind of close. You
look at North Dakota, Okay, are they maybe a little
road weary. They've been traveling all around. But their biggest
loss so far this year was seventeen against Coastal Carolina.
That great, but again, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know that's a I mean, that's so that I'll just
speak on Coastal Carolina real quick.
Speaker 3: That was part of an MTE.
Speaker 1: Uh that that game I believe was on the campus
of Western Illinois.
Speaker 3: I think they're the leather next? Did I get that
the leather next?
Speaker 1: That was like I believe that was day two of
like one of these MTES where it's.
Speaker 3: Like, how I messed up my camera? I think we're back?
Speaker 1: How you know day two of an MTE, Like how
I'm not going to dock you that many points for
for getting crushed on like the second day. Coastal Carolina
is to me a very underrated team this year. So yeah,
the more we we sort of ramble on about this
one that the more I feel like I'm going to
talk myself into staying up with you tonight and.
Speaker 2: Dakota Coda on the island.
Speaker 1: The chat really wants to hear about this Marquette game.
And we get that one in before the We got
the parley locked and so we have nine minutes. This
is I believe Marquette Oklahoma, and I think this game
is where Illinois Chicago plays. It's in Chicago. I believe
it is at the Home of the Flames.
Speaker 2: Yes, the u S Pavilion, Yes, yep.
Speaker 1: Now I believe sponsored by Credit Won for those.
Speaker 3: Heating track at home. But what do you make of
this game? This was one I had a hard time
making heads or tails up.
Speaker 2: Brian, I'll tell you what. Star K eighty seven took
place at the UAS on Thanksgiving about forty years ago.
Speaker 3: But how about Scott Steiner.
Speaker 1: How about Scott Steiner's like nephew bang and threes for
us last night for Congress that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely right. What do I think about Yeah,
I mean, I get so everyone kind of is looking
at this as a bi low spot for Shaka Smart.
I don't know, I was like right on market with this.
I didn't I you know, I didn't do a huge
deep dive into this game. I'll be honest with you.
It was just one of those things that I I
just when I made a number, it was like right
on market. So I wasn't like I didn't. There were
just other games that attracted me more. You know. The
thing is you talk about being a by low spot
on Marquette. This is why it was. I knew there
was a reason Oklahoma has not covered five in a row.
So you could argue from a value perspective, there's a
little by low on both teams, so you know you
can't buy low. You can only buy low on one,
you can't buy low on both. Someone's gonna win, someone's
gonna lose. I I don't know this is this isn't
like an e I'm a sorry gang. I mean, if
you feel that passionately about markeatte, I'll tell you to
bet it. I'm not gonna talk to you I'm not
gonna sit here and say I feel strong enough about
Oklahoma to talk you off of it. I'm just gonna
tell you that I'm not gonna be betting this game
here on Friday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Something's up with Marquette.
Speaker 1: That that's the thing, and and I like, so I
badly want to like Marquette in this game. Yet Oklahoma's
decided that's taking all the money right now up to
two and a half some places from from this open pick,
maybe maybe Oklahoma one.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing books going to two and a half on
the Sooners.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's getting healthier now with Jones back. Yeah, you know,
Marquette doesn't. And Marquette doesn't really have a second scoring
option behind Ross, So you know, I think that's another
concern for the Golden Eagle side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I've watched Marquette's last three games, and big
time concerns for me with this team. First of all,
they lost to Maryland when Maryland was missing like three starters. Okay,
Maryland was missing like three of their five starters, and
they beat They beat Marquette, I believe in Milwaukee at
five serve. So that is a that's actually a much
worse loss than it looks like just looking at the
box score. The next game, they lose to Dayton, also
on their home floor, and I just ripped Dayton like
ten minutes ago on this very show right here, just
ten minutes ago, I talked about how I had to
downgrade like Dayton even further for losing to Cincinnati, Like
Marquette beat by Dayton at home, and then last time
out they were, you know, kind of unimpressive against Central Michigan.
Speaker 3: Maye, what the chip it was, Brian, hang around? That
was a five point game at halftime.
Speaker 1: We end up winning by fifteen, but like I want
to say, the number was like twenty two and a
half twenty three. But again, like they I just don't
trust Marquette right now, so probably sooners are past. But
it's tough one that that's neutral court geographically, Marquette fans
should be able to I don't know if you want
to go to that part of Chicago, be honest, like
they might stay home.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see at any rate. It's a tough one.
It's a good discussion. I think you can make a
lot of interesting points. Someone in uh, let's get Trevor says,
Marquette my biggest bet of the day shock over Porter Moser. Yeah,
normally I would agree with that, but like I just
feel like Marquette's off and that's why I can't get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you have two t I mean
it's got you. You can argue the get right spot
by low for either team. I mean that that makes
a tough handicap.
Speaker 3: John appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the kind words, he said, Adam Brian,
you guys do a great job. And with Rob Veino's wisdom. Yes,
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Speaker 1: John says from snowy Northeast Ohio, he's your neighbor. Well,
Northeast Ohio is a vast area.
Speaker 2: Could be mm hmm. It is very snow here.
Speaker 1: Snowy central New York right now too. We're we're probably
getting all the same weather right now. We're gonna probably
get buried over the next three days. Don't live close
to a lake. That that's the moral of the story
right there. Yeah, all right, this is an interesting one.
Uh get back spot for Florida today, Maybe because I
don't really care for their opponent opponent, but I don't
really care for Providence. But does Florida look like a
lot less athletic to you than they were last year?
Speaker 2: Yes? And I was, I was, I I chickened out,
I I I told you I think right before we
went on the show that that I was low like Florida.
I'm kind of like my power ratings have shown value
to bet against them.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing though, sometimes, you know, we talked about, oh,
I wish I would have done that. I wish I
would have bet against him last night, obviously, but you know,
I remember my numbers show value against them when they
were playing Miami, and it was that was a bet
that I'm glad I did not make on the Hurricanes
because Florida covered there. Look, Florida is a great rebounding team.
We understood that. You know, I think that's gonna make
up for a lot of their warts. For lack of
a better term, I don't know, that might seem a
little too harsh warts. I mean, obviously, it's a team
that won the national championship. They're one of the ten
to fifteen best teams in the country, still no doubt
about it. But I don't know. I just I've every
Florida game trigged pretty much. I've shown a little bit
of value on the other side. Interestingly enough, though, and
this is not what anyone wants to hear. This is
sort of the first game where I'm not showing a
lot of value, like I think the markets maybe kind
of slightly even though they're taking money. You know, this
number is up to twelve now, so I don't know.
If it gets a little higher, I'm probably gonna show
a little bit of value, But I don't want to
bet Providence in this file.
Speaker 3: Well you know, you know it'll kill value.
Speaker 1: On on the other side of a team is when
Florida loses to TCU, that's gonna be a value killer.
Speaker 3: So like your numbers have been right.
Speaker 1: First of all, that Miami game, like they covered, but
that was a more competitive game than fourteen Like it
ended up being a fourteen point final, but Miami was
in that game for long stretches. Of course, Florida State
could have beat them. That was a two point game,
you know, two point final. The other games they lose
to Arizona to start the season. The other two were
like North Florida and Merrimack are bad this year. So
Florida's gonna need to show me a little bit more.
But I'll say that, and I talked about this with
Matt yesterday. I have a good buddy that went to
Providence is pretty tuned into Providence basketball. I know, he's like,
he's kind of my Providence insider, if you will. He
told me that this team doesn't really get along. Like
there's like so basically you have you have this weird dynamic,
which I'm sure sort of happens in college sports now,
where you have incoming freshmen and then you have upper
classmen that transfer in, but they're still all new to
the school, right, So like Brian, you know, you know,
you went to high school and college, and it's like
when you're a freshman, if if a senior, you know,
they might talk down to you a little bit, especially
if you're on a team, they might, you know, you
kind of almost have to defer to the upper classmen. Well,
what I'm hearing is that Kim English, coach of Providence,
maybe like prefers the guys that he recruited his freshmen
over the higher guns that he brought in. But like,
those guys are upper classmens, so they probably feel like
they're entitled to, like, you know, the treatment that an
upper classman would get, but they're really all new to
the school. And what he's telling me is it's created
a dynamic that's not exactly ideal, and then Trevor in
the chap basically said, well, this Providence team sucks.
Speaker 3: Don't really agree.
Speaker 2: Less technical handicap, yes, but yeah, yeah, like it's a.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I kind of think Providence
might be just not very good. Like they've got a
couple of players that can can score, and they have
some redeeming qualities in that regard, but like, when I
look at this roster overall, it's a lot of like
B minus talent, you know, like especially you're talking about
the context of the Big East. Like I kind of
feel like this is a team that's like eighth or
ninth in the Big East this year, and I just
don't think that I really have any interest in backing
them in any capacity.
Speaker 3: Even here, I think i'd lean toward Florida.
Speaker 2: All right, I think that's I think we've hit the hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have hit the hour, right, We're just cruising along.
I kind of lost track of time. But yeah, before
our stream gets cut, we should probably we should probably
wrap up the parlay. So the three teamer today is
a joint We've got each have a leg and then
we have a joint leg. So the joint leg right state.
Can we go plus fifteen and a half? Brian, if
we put the minus one twenty in, is that fair
or do we have to give out fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'll let you there's no fifteen. Nobody's getting fifteen and
a half at this point the fifteens are disappearing.
Speaker 1: Let's call it fifteen, and I will attach a minus
one twenty just to in case you have to like
do an alt line or by the point, what are
we looking at for North Dakota eighteen?
Speaker 2: I think we can even that. We can do eighteen
and a half.
Speaker 1: Eighteen and a half. See that's you might even be
able to wait if you want to bet that game.
Speaker 2: Sit yeah, and I would wait. I would wait, yes.
Speaker 1: And then Drake looks like twelve and a half just
about everywhere. So that is the three teamer. We'll call
it plus five sixty eight odds five sixty eight. We'll
go Wright State plus fifteen, North Dakota State plus or
north I'm sorry, let me start out write state plus fifteen.
That's also a client play for both Brian and I.
Three percent played for both of us. North Dakota plus
eighteen and a half. Late night out on the island,
and then I'm going to go with another one of
my client plays. That's Drake plus twelve and a half
night in Destin, Florida against LSU.
Speaker 3: So that's the three teamer.
Speaker 1: Drake plus twelve and a half North Dakota plus eighteen
and a half Wright State plus fifteen, three double digit
dogs for the parlay today, Brian, what could go wrong?
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