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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in and his Friday, and it's time

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for full court press. That stream went took forever to

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go live, but it looks like we are live.

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Speaker 2: I started having aince.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, at least that's what this

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little red light suggests on my screen. So hope you

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can see us and hear us. And yeah, how is

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your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Brian?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know you ask me how my Thanksgiving was? Any year,

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I'll tell you the same thing. Okay, what's going on

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right now? I ate too much yesterday. My wife is

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inexplicably putting up Christmas decorations right now, and I just

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want to like go in the basement and watch games

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and seek refuge. That's that's what we're gonna do. But

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before we do that, of course, we've got an hour

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to break down a college hoops like that. I'm very

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excited about Trigg because I'm not very excited about the

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college football slate at all today. So I really dove

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even more into this than I wouldn't normally because very excited.

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That's some very interesting game. We have, what twenty eight

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teams still undefeated in the country. We're guaranteed to lose

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at least one, and I think over the next week

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or so we're gonna lose certainly a lot more than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still excited to break down the card. I've

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had a couple of rough days. I was joking yesterday

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it turned into famine week for me. Brian, it was

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feast week on Monday when I went five and one.

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It's it's been famine week ever since. I've had one

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of the worst sort of three day coolers that I've

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had in quite some time, which is like, yeah, and

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just it is what it is. I guess I feel

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like I've beat numbers. I feel like I have eight

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point leads in the second half of a lot of

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these games and.

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Speaker 3: They just don't win. So we got to get it right.

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We got to write the ship well.

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Speaker 2: On one positive note here, Trig, I didn't know that

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you had dropped a couple earlier in the day yesterday,

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but I was very pleased because I knew you had

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had the two rough days. We didn't speak yesterday obviously

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or the day because I was running around, but you

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and I both had Colorado State money line, yes, and

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I saw you tweeted that play out I had it.

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We did not speak at all, folks. So if you

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had the package or anything and got Colorado State from

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the both of us, there was no communication on that.

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That would just do. Great minds coming together, And that

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was a pretty easy one.

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Speaker 1: See, That's what I'm talking about. When it's when you're

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running good, that's an easy one. When you're running like

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I have the last couple of days, a twenty one

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point lead becoming a six point.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I felt terrible for you, Yeah, because I knew, yeah,

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you had to be Yeah, he had to be. I was,

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but I was cursing the Ravens offense at that time

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as well too with the on the other screen.

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, we got that one done.

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Speaker 1: We actually agree on one today that we'll talk about

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on this show. That's a client play for both of us.

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And it's Friday, we got a new slate of games.

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It's also November. That's the thing I feel like for

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me personally, I'm kind of like the baseball player that

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comes out maybe I started in like a two for

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twenty three slump, and I've got to look at my

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batting average on the scoreboard. You know how that happens

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in baseball where guys hitting like fuck ten through the

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month of April, and.

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Speaker 3: It's like, sucks that you have to look at that,

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but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna turn it around, and we've got

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a bunch of people in here now, so let's get

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right into it. Feature game. I showed up dressed for

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the occasion Madison Square Garden early tip. I think this

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one is like twelve thirty or one o'clock, but it

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is the biggest game of the day, so we've got.

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Speaker 3: To talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Well thirty twelve thirty, Yeah, and MSG will be bumping.

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing about New York City.

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Speaker 1: MSG does not matter what time, and if it's a

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Yukon Huskies game, you can expect that the folks will

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be out in droves for that. It'll be all Yukon

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fans Stores West as some.

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Speaker 3: May call it.

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Speaker 1: They always get a big time turnout at the Garden.

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And it's a big time game against an Illinois team

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that you've been pretty high on this year. So talk

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to Yukon Illinois line move, what do you think is

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going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve thirty on Fox. This is absolutely going to

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be on one of my many screens in the basement,

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and I don't agree with this line move. Maybe you

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have some information which will tell me why the line

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is moving the way it has. I'm a little lower,

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you know. You talk about me being it's sort of

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two fold Trig. Number one, I'm pretty high on this

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Illinois team right now. Number two kind of like Yukon

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and Florida, I'll say, like my power ratings are sort

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of like bizarrely low. I've been looking into it. I'm like,

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is this I was so mad I didn't bet. I

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didn't fade Florida yesterday because my numbers said to fade Florida.

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They've kind of consistently been saying to faidh the defending

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national champs. But as for this game, I make this

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game a pick them, you know. And and with the

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line moving the way it has, at some point I

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may get interested in taking the points with the fighting

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a line, I hear, why would I do such a thing. Well,

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not just straight numbers, guys, Illinois is a team up

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front that can actually compete with Yukon. Right we talk

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about this Yukon team, Trig. What do we always talk about, Well,

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we talked about how great they are, But Illinois third

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in the country in rebounding margin. I think they're getting help.

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You know, I know you I think I don't think.

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I know because we had the conra I was there

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for the conversation before we went live. But you're talking

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about Yukon maybe getting a little healthier, Illinois maybe get

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a little healthier as well. Joey Cheese, I see in

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the chat. I knew, if you know. I was actually

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while I was delivering this soliloquis, I was like, you know,

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I hope Joey Cheese is not catching the show live today.

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I'm not a hater, Joey Cheese. I am simply reporting

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what my spreadsheet tells me to say here, and I

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think Illinois it's not gonna make my card. I'll be

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very honesty. I'm not going to bet the game. I

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am simply here to tell it because I know people

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get very upset. Oh you said this a few hours ago.

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All I'm telling you, guys, is I make this game

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a pick them, and if this number continues to move,

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maybe then I do get involved on the ALI and I.

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But that was a kind of a long winded answer

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just to say I don't agree with the line move.

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Speaker 1: Cheese knows is the Yukon Husky's like, that's his demon

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and he's very tuned in there. So if he says

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Champs by double digits, of course he's referring to the

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back to back titles that they've recently won, then I

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kind of agree with him. Now, you kind of missed

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your chance to do it. I'm seeing four at some books,

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three and a half pretty much everywhere. The line move

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to me, Yeah, yeah, there's a four at Caesars right now.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: The line move to me just says that Reed is

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definitely playing and that maybe Yukon is healthier than Illinois is.

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So both teams had guys miss recently. I know that

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the terrorists. Reid missing was kind of a surprise, I

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think to some you know, when it kind of came

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out an hour before the game, and I don't think

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it was was really known at all.

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Speaker 3: So he's back.

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Speaker 1: That's huge for Yukon, and like BP, my numbers are

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a little bit under on the other side. So Joey

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I'm seeing, he says, with Reed and Mullins healthy. Yeah,

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Mullins was the other one that had missed. He said

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his or this line should be closer to seven and

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I was kind of in that boat too. Now, this

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is a neutral floor game, but this is one one

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building where I will bump home court a little bit.

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For Yukon. It's going to be all Ukon fans. They've

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turned out at the Garden for years. As you can see,

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very very unorganized. As to where I wrote, here we go. Yeah,

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I had the six point twenty five. Oh Yukon minus

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six point twenty five for my number. But these types

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of games, and also for me like Illinois, a healthy

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Illinois team is still very capable of winning this game.

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the exact health of both teams. So the reason I

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didn't bet it at the open or earlier this morning

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is I didn't want to show up and have Illinois

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fully healthy and you U kond of have guys out

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and suddenly it's gonna tilt it. But yeah, stores, Joey says,

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stores South. That's what I think I called it Stores West.

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I meant to call it Stores South. It'll be all

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Yukon fans. I do like the Huskies. It's why I

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showed up in my Husky jacket today.

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Speaker 2: Briant okay As always I'll just set it up. That's

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why I wore a polo sweater. Here a few things.

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think that's gonna get there, So again that's why I say,

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I imagine I'll be on the sidelines on number two.

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earth that it would be worse to be angry at

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me than Dan Hurley would be Joey Cheese. So I

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would hate to anger him. I mean, that's certainly two

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very intense individuals. And then something that you know, in

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terms of not showing value here on Yukon. I'm a

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little surprised by that trick because this is a team

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that's one in five against the number Yukon. So I mean,

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you know, I mean, this is this is a short number.

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were minus five against Arizona lose that game out right.

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They were minus six and a half against BYU let

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him back in late and didn't cover there. The other

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spreads were all gigantic, So I don't know how much

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you take away from that, but you know, they have

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had two single digit spreads and failed the cover. So

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spread trig, I do start to show value on them,

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unless if they're loyal to Chicago. But I don't know.

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I just my numbers are what they are, and I

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love my numbers, and I don't I don't know. I'm

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gonna probably just sit this one out.

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Speaker 1: I guess listen BYU and Arizona, both very very good teams, and.

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Speaker 2: I've got and I've got Illinois righted right with those teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Illinois at full strength probably

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belongs in the mix there. Like a full strength Illinois

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team is in that sort of like caliber of team

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category of team. Last time out, like Yukon completely dominated Bryant,

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they just like didn't cover thirty five and a half,

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those those spreads of like thirty five and a half

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like that, that was the type of game and I

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caught some of that game where like they could have

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probably named their score if if Hurley wanted to win

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that game by fifty, he would have right like it

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was in hand by halftime.

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Speaker 3: So again that's another non cover on Yukon's ledger.

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Speaker 1: That's just like I think they had another one earlier

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this season, maybe against New Haven, where it was just

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like he he probably just decided to not embarrassed someone

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on that day, you know, just for the sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, unlike.

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Speaker 1: The last time, Unlike the last time these two teams played,

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where I think he dropped a thirty zero.

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Speaker 3: Run on Illinois at one point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, that's right, that's right. We should that.

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That absolutely needs to be brought up. I mean, I

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know the players, you know, the names have changed, but

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the numbers love me when I win. Re thank you

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for that. That was a very good guys. That's my

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early that's my clubhouse leader for common of the day.

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But yes, we absolutely need to mention this. Shame on me.

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I was going to do that in the intro. Last

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time these teams met, it was the Elite eight, and

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the game was close for the first part of the

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first half, and then Yukon went on the kill shot

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of all kill shots. Trademark Evan Maya with that term.

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So you know, yeah, So I don't know how if

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that matters at all in the handicap here. The fact

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that the last time these teams played, Ukon annihilated in

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the tournament because it's two different teams.

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Speaker 1: I think what Joey's saying makes sense, and I think

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this is fair as in general statement to be like

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Yukon's been banged up, Like that's the thing. You know,

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this is the top five team in the country that

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really hasn't been healthy yet this season. But unlike a

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lot of other teams in there, like weight class, they've

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already racked up like big games at Arizona, you know

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BYU like they they've played a bunch of top competition.

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I guess I guess that now this week everyone's starting

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to play like big games, but you know, they had.

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Speaker 3: Already played them, they were banged up.

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Speaker 1: If they show up to the garden healthy, I'm kind

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of I kind of do think that this is a

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Yukon by margin title.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what have we learned in the last

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What have we learned in the last several minutes? Everyone,

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Brian Power is the only human being walking the face

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of the earth that believes this game should be lied

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closer to a pickup. There we go, So get out

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with your bad self, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I do think you're I do think you're gonna see

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Resistance at four, like I think, I think the fest

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will be gone. It looks like it looks like there's

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some books that are gonna hold at three. And so

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you know, I think if you like Yukon your your

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your best bet is to try to grab maybe one

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of those minus threes or play it on the money line.

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And if you like Illinois, I think your spot to

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buy in is probably four. I don't think it's going

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to get higher than that. All right, Brian Power, We're

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so we desperately need to hit a parlay on this show.

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I knew we set on realistic expectations when we came

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out eight and hit three in the first week.

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Speaker 3: We have not hit one yet.

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Speaker 1: But since there's just two of us today, we're going

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to go with the same sort of formula that we've

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done the past couple two man show days, where it's

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I pick a game, you pick a game, and then

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we have a joint game. And about two minutes before

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we came on the show, we realized we had a

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joint client play a game that we were both looking

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at both locked in before the show. So let's give

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that one out now. I'll let you started off. Since

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this is both number just moved.

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Speaker 2: I actually have to lock it in. I'm an idiot.

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I didn't lock it in after we talked about it.

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So I have to lock this in right now. This

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is going to be a client play. Everybody let me well,

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I stare trig if you want to, yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: I'll tee it up while while you're locking that in.

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I gave you I think sixteen and a half. There's

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probably still sixteens. We're going to talk about Butler in

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Right State. I believe this is also an early game. Correct,

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I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: I think two PM game. This is at Hinklefield House.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I know, like personally, after the blood

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bath that was the last couple of days for me,

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I'm definitely gravitating more toward just like the the campus,

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like the normal games. I'm getting a little bit away

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from the MTES. I think there's just a lot of

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like crazy results. I mean, you're playing multiple games, multiple days,

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tropical locations. It's that the results have been all over

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the place. I've been on the wrong side of some

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of them. So these are the types of games, just

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a normal game on a Friday, Right State. Butler used

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to be a little bit of Arion this.

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Speaker 2: Was a good rivalry in the Horizon League. Yeah, the

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Horizon hasn't been the same since Butler left, but I

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think it's a good spot here. Dragged to sell high

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on Butler. They won an MT out in Greenbrier, West Virginia.

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The name of that country closes place, looks sick, that place,

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it's it's the Browns have practice there and stuff in

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the past or not. But so Butler out in the MT.

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They beat South Carolina seventy nine to seventy two, is

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a four point favorite, and then they upset Virginia six

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and a half point underdogs, eighty to seventy three. You

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look at those two games, guys, and they were both

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pretty impressive performances for the Bulldogs. They shot sixty one

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percent in the second half against South Carolina. It was

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a similarly hot start to the game against Virginia. And

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as you crack open the statistical profile for the Butler team, guys,

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you're gonna find that they've shot the three very well

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so far. Right, anytime a team's playing well, chances are

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they're shooting the three well well. Butler's twenty second nationally

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from behind the arc forty point three percent They're doing

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an excellent job at cleaning up the offensive glass as well,

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fourth highest offensive rebound percentage nationally. So you shoot the

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three at a forty percent clip, you're collecting that high

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of a percentage of offensive rebounds. Drag no a prize

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that you're doing well. But I thought the number, which

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did get as high as sixteen and a half, had

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moved too far off the opener. Right State can do

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a few things to frustrate their old Horizon League rival

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and keep this one close one. The Raiders are also

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an excellent three point shooting team right at forty percent,

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so three point shooting for the year is kind of

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a wash between these two teams. Defensively, Right State turns

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you over a lot, about twenty percent of all possessions.

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That's top sixty in the country. And then Right State

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also likes to play slow. Can they win the pace war?

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Hopefully they can. They're three hundred and tenth and adjusted tempo,

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so Right State can slow the pace down trick for

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some turnovers, hit some threes. I see no reason why

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they can't at the very least stay within the number here. Again,

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I think we're pretty close to the peak of the market.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Right State, So in what will be a very

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wide open horizon this year.

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Speaker 3: Like they.

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Speaker 1: We were picked closer to middle of the pack, fifth, sixth,

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seventh by a lot of folks, and I think they're

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gonna be closer to the top. So, like I'm pretty

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high on Right State just from like where they were

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projected to finish type standpoint. Part of the reason I

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really like them is so they they really didn't play

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any defense last year, and their head coach, Clint Sargent,

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came out talked about that, like really wanting to be

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better on the defensive end of the floor this season,

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And anytime I've watched them play, that's been the case

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that you just referenced them being scrappy forcing turnovers, like

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this is just a much better defensive team than what

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Right State was a year ago. And so and a

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lot of times, especially in these smaller conferences, with these

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teams that don't get a ton of national attention, like

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that will go unnoticed.

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Speaker 3: Right So, like you look at their their numbers from last.

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Speaker 1: Year, then you'll look and say, okay, well, you know

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they've had a you know, they had a couple of

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games like that.

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Speaker 3: The cat actually be right.

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Speaker 1: State against cal I thought that they hung around in

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that game and did a great job.

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Speaker 3: They covered the number and were very competitive.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, if you want to just take a

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quick comparison, Callum Butler similar like they're not, you know,

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I would say Butler's better, but not by a ton

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and Wright. State hung step for step with Calum covered

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on their home floor a hosp pavilion, so that was

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going all the way across the country grad to cover there.

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Speaker 2: This is just right.

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Speaker 1: State one stayed over, not not too much travel. So

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again there's there's They've played on the road and played

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all right. The win over Radford is actually quite impressive

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in my opinion. Like I think Radford like coming into

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the season, you want to talk about another projection, I

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thought Radford was the team that could kind of maybe

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compete with High Point in the Big South. Everyone thinks

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high Points gonna run away with the Big South, and honestly,

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they probably will, but like to me, Radford's the one

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team that looks like a contender, and they came out

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and played a pretty good game against I bet this

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on Monday and one and it's I think it was

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SMU on Monday where they hung around, really had one

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sort of lull in that game, and otherwise they covered

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the number, competed the entire time. Reason I bring that up,

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Right State destroyed that team ninety two to fifty nine,

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absolutely destroyed Radford. So you talk about in season results

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for Right State a cover against Cal. The Toledo game

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we talked about on the show just being a straight

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up bad matchup for Right State.

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Speaker 3: So they lose to Toledo at home. That was a

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bad matchup for them.

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Speaker 1: They have not done anything that puts me off thinking

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that they're a little bit undervalued.

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Speaker 3: They're playing better defense. So yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I took the sixteen and a half as well, and

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that's a three percent play for me.

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Speaker 3: And that's also going to be the first leg of

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the parlat.

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Speaker 2: Three percent play for me, So you're getting for free.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, since we're gonna lock the parley in at

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the end of the show, we'll we'll wait and see

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what kind of number we can get on that, like

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at the show closed, but honestly, like I was closer

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to wear it opened. So as long as like Right

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State doesn't take like an avalanche of money in the

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next forty minutes. I think, I think we're gonna be

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good to play.

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Speaker 2: That, And so it peaked at sixteen and a half.

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It's down pretty much to fifteen now. Yeah, and I

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can see it going back towards the opener. Fan Duels

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Down is the first one that's back down to fourteen

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and a half for the record, fifteen and a half

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still at Draft gams.

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Speaker 1: So shop, I'll tell you what we'll Yeah, well we'll

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say fifteen and a half and then I may just

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attach to minus one twenty to it, so people can

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just either play fifteen if they want, or fifteen and

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a half. It's uh yeah, I and the chat asked

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good at fifteen, like yeah, I think, so I've got this.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is going to.

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Speaker 2: Be I made it thirteen. Yeah, I made the number thirteen,

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so I actually was actually lower than the opener. So yeah,

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as long as it doesn't get lower than the opener.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty sure this is on National TV.

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I think this might be a CBS Sports Network game.

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If I'm missing up.

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Speaker 2: I actually have that, and the reason i'm page up,

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I can confirm that in the minute.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's ESPN PLU.

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Speaker 1: This is this game is probably a much bigger deal

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for Right State than it is for Butler. Like I

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just I feel like this is just a bigger deal

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for them, and if they show up, they're probably keeping

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it within single digits.

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Speaker 2: So they've had a couple extra days to prepare too.

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They've had a couple extra days to prepare.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll touch this one real quick. Garth in

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the chat. First of all, thank you for the donation.

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Much appreciated. If you likes, subscribes comments, everything helps and

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we'll make sure that we hit your game if you

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do donate to the channel. So Garth says thoughts on

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Southeast Louisiana and Gardner Web. He leans Southeast Louisiana covering

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the six and a half drag kind of leans that

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way as well.

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Speaker 3: Don't know why I'm referring to myself in the third

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person all of a sudden, but that's the way I lean. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So what I'll point out about this game, this is

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one of those weird mtes that's like a school hosts

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it and then four teams go and so this is

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this game is actually in Wilmington, North Carolina, So this

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is the un see Wilmington sort of MT where four

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teams go, they all play each other. Obviously Wilmington gets

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home games out of it, and then Southeast Louisiana and

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Gardner Webb play in front of three people. That's pretty

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much what will happen here, right, probably four people in

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attendance for this game, maybe some Gardner Web fans because

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they're geographically closer. That being said, I think Gardner Webb

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is a dad basketball team this year.

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Speaker 3: I have them reached.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like and and the thing is, it's like you

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could say, well, they're gonna win one at some point,

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Well they're gonna cover at some point. Yeah, probably, but

475
00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:38,920
it'll most likely it's probably gonna happen at home or

476
00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:43,640
like against a team that that they're equals with. I mean,

477
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,119
I suppose, like you can look at it this two ways, Brian,

478
00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:49,079
and I'll actually I'm curious to see what you're like

479
00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,759
mindset is for this type of game.

480
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: Both of these teams just played. So this is the

481
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,599
next day in an MT.

482
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,039
Speaker 1: I think Gardner Web got absolutely buried by Navy yesterday,

483
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,519
and I believe the Southeast Louisiana.

484
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 3: Score was a little bit deceiving.

485
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,839
Speaker 1: They were more in that game with Wilmington than the

486
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920
final score suggests. Like, I know, I think Wilmington kind

487
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,480
of covered at the end, but Southeast Louisiana was pretty competitive.

488
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,039
I wish our guy, Keith Bayou Betts Landry was in

489
00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:19,160
the chat today because that's Southeast Louisiana is his squad.

490
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,359
He is my guy for Southeast Louisiana info. But just

491
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,240
from what I've seen out of these two teams, like

492
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:28,680
there is a clear difference, like Southeast Louisiana. If Southeastuisia

493
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,839
Louisiana shows up and cares about this game at all,

494
00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:33,440
they should win by double digits.

495
00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, so let me just I looked

496
00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:39,480
up so South East Louisiana yesterday against Wilmington. They were

497
00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:41,079
up six of the half drag.

498
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,839
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

499
00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:44,079
Speaker 2: They were winning out right at the half of that game,

500
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,799
and then they just got blitzed in the second, got

501
00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,319
out scored forty three to twenty four over the last

502
00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,160
twenty minutes. Now, the Gardner Webb running bulldogs here, it's

503
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,440
not going well. They lost yesterday. I mean they lost

504
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,400
by thirty three against Navy. That's real bad, weary, that

505
00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:01,799
is Look, let me look, I'm just gonna score on

506
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:03,920
the bottom Like Gardner Webb has got to be one

507
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,559
of the worst teams in the country, right. I mean,

508
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:09,279
this is like just the I have them as I

509
00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:11,039
have them as a bottom five team in the country.

510
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,119
The teams that are worse are all swack teams. So

511
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:21,519
Gardner Webb, there's just nothing to like here at all.

512
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

513
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: And you know I defense, like, God, is this team

514
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,680
bad defensively? You look at I'm not gonna lie, Okay.

515
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,519
I don't sit and watch Gardner Webb on the television

516
00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:32,200
every day, so I'm just like looking at the numbers

517
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,119
here and that this is o bleak picture, something that's

518
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,640
interesting to me. If you don't want to lay it

519
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,119
with Southeast Louisiana. A lot of times I get a

520
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,119
little gun shy about laying it with teams because I'm

521
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,839
Southeast Louisiana. We're not exactly gonna seeing them in the

522
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,559
final four come April. Trigg, needless to say, if you

523
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,440
like them, maybe a team total over in honor of

524
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,920
our our third colleague, Rob Veno, because they have not

525
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,480
shot the three well. And this is a game, a

526
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,680
match up, if you will, to me, where the offense

527
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,799
gets right for Sela.

528
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and the other thing you got to point

529
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,839
out with Southeast Louisiana in terms of like shooting the ball,

530
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,559
just look at their first look at their their first

531
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,880
four games, or really all five of their games. Right,

532
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,759
Like UNC, Wilmington is very very good basketball team. They

533
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:23,039
have not had CJ luster yet this year. And I

534
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,680
think that they've still only lost one game and it

535
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,440
was a game that they could have absolutely won against

536
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:31,000
Kent State, and that's a good Kent State team, and

537
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:33,720
that was on the road. That's Wilmington's only lost. Like

538
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:36,799
Wilmington is right, they will be right in the mix

539
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,839
with Towson and and who maybe I don't even think

540
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,559
Charleston's on their level.

541
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Twison or Wilmington in

542
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,720
the CIA.

543
00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: But this is a really really good team and they

544
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,279
always play well at home Trash Coliseum. I don't know

545
00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:53,279
if they're the you know, if the what the atmosphere

546
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,799
was like last time, they didn't catch that, but like

547
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:58,839
almost every home game for them, Wilmington is like a

548
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,279
Rockets atmosphere. It's one of the better big major sort

549
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,920
of like crowds that you're going to get on a

550
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,039
game in a game out basis. So like, the reason

551
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:10,440
I bring that up is aside from the non D

552
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,880
one game that doesn't really get factored into numbers that much,

553
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,359
that that's us.

554
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: That's Seela's one win.

555
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:21,759
Speaker 1: Southeast Louisiana this year has played at all Miss, at

556
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:27,079
Louisiana Lafayette, at Georgia Tech, at Mississippi State, and now

557
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,200
at UNCW because even though this is an MTE, that's

558
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,440
of course a home game for Wilmington. So five road

559
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,079
games and now they're going to essentially drop in class

560
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,920
from like Power Conference teams or a Wilmington team that's

561
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,799
probably going to the NCAA tournament down to what you

562
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:45,960
have called a bottom ten team in the country. And

563
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
I really can't disagree with you there. So yeah, I

564
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960
mean I made this. I know I made this number

565
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,880
a little bit low, like I showed a slight edge

566
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,440
to SILA on the number. But yeah, I think that

567
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,079
them scoring because again this is a noon tip.

568
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: It could turn into a free for all. Maybe the

569
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:04,920
team total over is the way it goes.

570
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to put a number here, they Sila shot

571
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,799
seventeen percent in this building yesterday from three, so you

572
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:12,839
would expect Obviously that number is gonna go up should

573
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,880
we get to this Vcuva Tech game, because I think

574
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,039
the chick may come at it because it's about the tip,

575
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,279
and the chant's gonna come at us with pitchforks if

576
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,400
we don't talk about it before it tips. I look,

577
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920
it's not guys. Remember people catch us on the replay

578
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,200
and they don't want to They're gonna speed through games

579
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,720
that have already tipped. I don't. Look, it's a hard

580
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,839
game to handicap because you're talking about a ten to

581
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:36,759
three am Eastern tip one day removed from both teams

582
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:41,759
not playing well. It's a consolation bracket and an MTE honestly,

583
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,160
and why I don't want to bet this game Trake

584
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,759
is because it involves something that I can't quantify. Who's

585
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,000
gonna want I think it honestly just comes down and

586
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,920
this is not something This is not an adage that

587
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:56,799
I say very often a wager talk TV. This comes

588
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,519
down to who wants it more? Who woke up this

589
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,000
morning and wants to win this game? You know, Because

590
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,880
if one of those teams is kind of like whatever,

591
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,359
and the other one really wants it, that's what's gonna happen.

592
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,079
I would say that maybe Va Tech they failed to cover.

593
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,519
Now four in a row, you can get what was

594
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:16,119
it two and a half three? Now I might if

595
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,680
you force me to make a bet, I would take

596
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200
the three with the Hokies. But it's it's not gonna

597
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,759
make my card.

598
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: It looks like Toby Lawal will remain out for this game.

599
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Problem Yeah yeah, I mean he's a he averages a

600
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:35,359
double double. So like you know, even though he was

601
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,680
out last game as well, that's that's a tough guy

602
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880
to not have, yes, and that's.

603
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Why then that's why the line is moving. I would

604
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,480
suspect that's.

605
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: Why the line is moving.

606
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a a tough guy to not have

607
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,279
in there if you're Virginia Tech. In my opinion, so

608
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,799
I think that like again, I have absolutely no desire

609
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:02,640
to bet this game. This ten thirty tip in the Bahamas,

610
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,359
Like you said, like who wants it?

611
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,079
Speaker 3: More of these rn? I think this was the one.

612
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Uh this location where like the first day of the tournament,

613
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,920
like no one could shoot. Now the shooting was like

614
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,160
a little bit better yesterday, so you know, lo Wall

615
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,559
being out, I don't know. I think maybe that lends

616
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,240
itself to like he is a good rim defender. You

617
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:29,559
could just go over. I would say, like over probably

618
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:30,480
makes some sense.

619
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Tech twenty points in the first half against Saint Mary's,

620
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,920
but again that's Saint Mary's, so I don't know. Yeah,

621
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:38,160
it was an easy pass for me.

622
00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd have to just to fire something

623
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,440
off here with like thirty seconds before the game tips.

624
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,599
I think I would either go VCU or over and

625
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,880
not with any sort of real conviction, So I guess

626
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,839
we had to cover it. We touched on that one,

627
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,079
and now we're gonna move off to a different game.

628
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Let's uh, let's get back in the the chat here.

629
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,559
Appreciate you guys tuning in. I know everyone is uh

630
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,880
you know probably has other things to do this weekend

631
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,359
with family and stuff, so we appreciate that you made time,

632
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,039
uh to to listen to us chat basketball. Hopefully we

633
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:18,359
can put you on a winner or two I gave out.

634
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,000
I'll give it you know what. I'm gonna give out

635
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,039
another client play right now, just because like I've had

636
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,480
three really like awful days, so I could rather just

637
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,119
give you the college Tube. I am on a I

638
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,480
am going for a fifth straight College Football Winner that

639
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,640
I've made a five percent play, but that's not till tomorrow.

640
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,799
But I'm just gonna promote it here because if I

641
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,440
don't sell picks, then you know, we don't get paid.

642
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,440
So we gotta we gotta promote sometimes. But contrary to

643
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,160
popular belief, they do not pay us to do this.

644
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: We have to.

645
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: We have to sell the picks to make a few

646
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:50,240
few bucks here.

647
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: So I want to give out my leg the parlay,

648
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,519
and I'm gonna go to a late game Drake Lsu.

649
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,759
I'm gonna check the current number to see if it's

650
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,240
still there. But I played Drake plus twelve and a half.

651
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,880
I'm curious to see if, yeah, it's still twelve and

652
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,480
a half pretty much across the board. And so the

653
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,440
reason I like Drake is really two reasons.

654
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: One.

655
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: So this is a neutral court game down in Florida,

656
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,160
I believe, and Drake came out of the gate this

657
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:27,559
year and probably played as like far off of their rating,

658
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,880
as like maybe any team in the country. Those first

659
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,119
maybe week or two, they got completely.

660
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:36,519
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that.

661
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost a game, they lost to Robert Morris

662
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:40,839
and they lost.

663
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: To SIU Edwardsville.

664
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: They didn't play good against a bad Northern Arizona team,

665
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,000
and those were that was essentially their first four games.

666
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,920
They had a non board game in there as well.

667
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:52,559
I felt like they turned the corner a little bit

668
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:55,720
in that Charleston game. And here's the key with Drake. Now,

669
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,599
this would just be the bonus of all bonuses if

670
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:02,839
this happens. Owen Larson has not played yet this year.

671
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,839
I doubt he plays tonight, but I do know that

672
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,039
the target for him coming back was like early December,

673
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,599
and I hadn't heard of They haven't updated it. I

674
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:15,240
don't think on a I haven't watched a Drake game.

675
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,400
Like Drake's last game was against a non Division one team.

676
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,759
It didn't catch that game. But the point is, like

677
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,559
he is so massive, and if he's like getting back

678
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,720
into practice and he's getting close to getting back, like

679
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,799
that's a plus for them, even if he's not back

680
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,000
on the floor yet. The second thing is Eric Henderson's

681
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,319
as a solid coach, like Drake is going to improve.

682
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: It's not obviously McCollum anymore.

683
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 1: He's now at Iowa, but Henderson comes I believe from

684
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,279
South Dakota State. He's always won there he's probably gonna

685
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:45,839
end up winning here. And then Brian, I'll let you

686
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400
sort of fill in the blanks on LSU a little bit.

687
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,200
They really haven't played anyone yet. And the one game

688
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,480
that I think is super deceiving on LSU's ledger right now.

689
00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:03,400
So they basically smashed five like fi you Omaha, Alcorn State, Tarlton,

690
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,960
New Orleans. That Tarlton game, they kicked out Carlton's best

691
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,039
player like five minutes into the game and then their

692
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,920
other best player played like one minute deceiving you know,

693
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,839
stat line there. They keep catching teams that are like

694
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,400
in bad spots. I think Omaha was banged up going

695
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,640
into that game last time out. So to me, LSU

696
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,559
has proved nothing yet. This is the toughest opponent that

697
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:28,160
they'll probably have played yet this year.

698
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: And they finally leave that and Rouge now they're on

699
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:32,200
neutral floor and Florida.

700
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,319
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say, Give me the.

701
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Twelve and a half points Drake plus twelve and a

702
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:36,400
half three percent play for me.

703
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And while LSU has been impressive at the offensive end, drag,

704
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,680
I mean, they gave up eighty one to Elkorn, eighty

705
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,759
one to FIU seventy three to Omaha. They've not that

706
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,400
those aren't good defensive numbers at home at all. So yeah,

707
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:55,680
I think LSU is a potential cell high team, similar

708
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,599
to what we talked about with Butler earlier. I did

709
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,160
see a question in the chat. I think somebody must

710
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,319
have just missed it. Was it Jason or was it

711
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:07,440
I didn't market That's yes, Jason Jones in the chat.

712
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Ass I haven't heard you guys mentioned Butler on the

713
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show yet. We did both Trigg and I like Wright State.

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You can check that out if you want to go

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I see. I know that.

741
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: You know it's a little counterintuitive and they want us

742
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,719
to highlight the streaks, but I think it's a much

743
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,159
more effective promo to be like, hey, I've been got

744
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off of the last three days, so this is the

745
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time to buy.

746
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,119
Speaker 3: So this is when you want TRIGG. You didn't want

747
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them the last three days. You want them this weekend.

748
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:50,800
That's my promo right there.

749
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: I agree. Like I said, I was very happy when

750
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,559
I saw you were in Colorado state last night with me.

751
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're seeing on on a couple today as well.

752
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,079
So Cappy Corner says he's going to the Drake game.

753
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,639
I believe this is in Destin, Florida.

754
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Uh sounds nice. I'm looking out.

755
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: I've been there before, to Dustin. That's that's my my, my,

756
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,800
uh wife's parents. They there, there's snowbirds. They drive all

757
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,119
the way around Florida. We've isn't there spring a spring break? Uh?

758
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:17,920
Spring training?

759
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,639
Speaker 1: Uh?

760
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: In Destin? I believe, I believe. I believe I've caught

761
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,480
a spring training game in Dustin. Isn't that where the

762
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:24,280
Blue Jays play?

763
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: No, it's needed it, but but still nest In, Florida

764
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,679
sounds fantastic.

765
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,679
Speaker 3: I am looking out my window right now.

766
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: There's already six inches of snow and we're probably gotta know.

767
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: We got driving all from my parents house last night

768
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,639
was horrible, but nobody wants to hear about.

769
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was.

770
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rough weekend here. We're getting a

771
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:46,800
lot of snow, So I'll just I plan on going nowhere.

772
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,559
I'm gonna be watching college basketball for like seventy two hours.

773
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,800
Maybe sprinkle in some football. Uh, maybe leave the house

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,599
at some point in time.

775
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I haven't in dates, but uh, it's

776
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,199
always going to get some fresh air.

777
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,119
Speaker 1: And one more thing before we move on. A great

778
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,719
little tidbit from from twelve Colcy. Here, he says, drake

779
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Is won each of its last twelve games against non

780
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,199
ap ranked opponents at a neutral venue.

781
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: It's an interesting stat this.

782
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: Of course, is a did not have that well.

783
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,519
Speaker 1: Great stuff from the chat as always. All right, let's

784
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,639
let's keep it going. Uh, I mean, what were twenty

785
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,880
three minutes from from the end? Do you know what

786
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,880
your parlay leg is going to be? Do you? No?

787
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,599
Speaker 2: I don't there?

788
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,119
Speaker 1: All right?

789
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,599
Speaker 2: Right State? Yeah? Yeah, So let's go the chat here,

790
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:39,679
Santa Clara. We could talk.

791
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Well, I got I kind of got one I want

792
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,199
to I got Well, we should throw out let's because

793
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,679
this is an interesting game to me. So yesterday you

794
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,440
and I both agreed on Colorado State. I but but

795
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,039
I also think you and I were both more in

796
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,599
feed Wichita State mode. At least I was, like I

797
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,159
I didn't. I don't mind that Colorado State team. I

798
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,519
think Ali for Okmanesh is probably a much better coach

799
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,159
than people realize. Like he of course takes over for

800
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,039
Nico medved He was the top assistant there, but I

801
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:11,960
think he was the brains behind a lot of what

802
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,000
was going on. So I upgraded Colorado State in my

803
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,800
rankings from what I had the mat earlier in the season.

804
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: That being said, they.

805
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Turn around and now have to play South Florida, who

806
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,639
is gonna a is going to just run them.

807
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: Up and down the floor.

808
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:28,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, b has not played well yet in this tournament,

809
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,039
but they figured it out in the second half and

810
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:34,199
were able to come back and win in overtime. I

811
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,679
kind of lean USF here. I was curious to get

812
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,480
your take on this one.

813
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,679
Speaker 2: USF's not the kind of team you want to play,

814
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,440
uh without rest because just the stock basketball lay at

815
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,519
that point. Yeah, that that is just not a team. Yeah,

816
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,880
I mean, especially like at the end of an MT right,

817
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,280
So I mean this is what three games in three

818
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,360
days now in Atlantis. I mean, yeah, that's like the

819
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,280
one of the South Florida would be on the short

820
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,559
list of the absolute worst teams could play in a

821
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:03,760
third game in three days, you know, day after Thanksgiving,

822
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,320
that there certainly is a you know, a chance they

823
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,840
get run out of the gym.

824
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this, I may have to add this one too,

825
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,760
especially if before it moves and I can get a

826
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,440
cheap money line. I guess the reason I Brian Hodgson's

827
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,559
gonna play like he wants to play like Alabama plays.

828
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,079
That's his wholem o. It's what he did at Arkansas State.

829
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,800
He comes from the NATO's coaching tree. He wants to

830
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,119
go up and down shot Molume like it is going

831
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,119
to be crazy. The pace is going to be crazy.

832
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,000
And also, you know, I kind of made a joke

833
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,559
about it, but like Colorado State, if that game went

834
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,639
another five minutes, they may have lost that game.

835
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Like they thank god that Kenyan Giles.

836
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: Finally missed in a crazy three that he chucked up

837
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,320
because they were really starting to ask for it. And

838
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,280
what happened, Wichita State was down so much that they

839
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:59,639
really just turned it into a game. They turned it

840
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:01,760
into the game that South Florida is gonna play right

841
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,400
out of the rip right like they started to press,

842
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:06,920
they started to like, you know, kind of get what

843
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Wichita State had to get away from their game because

844
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,119
they were down twenty one, and they came all the

845
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:12,880
way back. Brian, I think they had it down to

846
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,400
six at one point with the ball. So if that's

847
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,559
the type of game that Colorado State's going to see

848
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,519
right off the bat, and they've played this many consecutive days,

849
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,719
I think I got to play USF here.

850
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 2: You know what game we need to talk about because

851
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,639
it's a big game and it's in Atlantis. And I

852
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,440
mentioned at the top we still have twenty eight teams

853
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,639
undefeated in the country. We're guaranteed to lose one. The

854
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,199
reason we're guaranteed to lose one today, guys, is the

855
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,320
championship game of the Battle for Atlantis is Vanderbilt and

856
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,280
Saint Mary's. I you know, obviously Illinois Yukon is the

857
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440
headliner today. It's why we open up the program. This

858
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,840
is unequivocally to be the second best game on the slate,

859
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,360
Vanderbilt and Saint Mary's. And it's a pace war. Who's

860
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,920
gonna win this game? Well, who dictates pace? These two

861
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,559
teams do not play the same at all. Vandy wants

862
00:39:57,559 --> 00:39:59,679
to get up and down and it's it we just

863
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,599
talked about South Florida, right if third game in three

864
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,760
days now for Saint Mary's. We know how they like

865
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,039
to play slow, make you uncomfortable. We saw what they

866
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,960
did defensively against Virginia Tech. We talked about it earlier

867
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,280
in the program. Whoever dictates pace is going to win

868
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,039
this game. Obviously, I know that's kind of a cheap

869
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:22,159
way to get out of picking a winner here. But Vandy,

870
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,880
don't forget I'll say this a lot of times, revenge.

871
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,000
You know, we were talking about Butler and Wright State,

872
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,360
how it used to be a Horizon League rivalry. Obviously,

873
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,960
none of the players that are playing in this game

874
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,800
that they care about that at all. You know, that

875
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,519
was ten years ago. More than ten years ago. Those

876
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,760
teams are conference rivals. I mean, you know these kids were,

877
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,239
you know, still in grade school when that was going on.

878
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,639
But this is a situation with legit revenge on the

879
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,679
Vandy side. Trig they lost in the first round of

880
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,159
the NCAA Tournament to the Gales last year. I think

881
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,440
it's on the mind. I like this Vandy team quite

882
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:56,480
frankly small, lean to the Kamis here in the Atlantis Championship.

883
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really argue with that.

884
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: I think Saint Mary's is one of those teams where

885
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,280
if they if if you play their game and they

886
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,920
get the game that they want, they're gonna be tough

887
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,760
to beat. But if you can get them out of that,

888
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,239
you know, it's it's like they we've seen them lose

889
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,000
to teams that are far worse than them when they're

890
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,760
very good. So it's like, really just about ken Vanderbilt

891
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,519
play the game they want to play. In my opinion,

892
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,480
if they do, then I think they've got just as

893
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,360
good a chance as any to win. So I can't

894
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,559
really disagree. I can't really argue with that. I got

895
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,920
a thought on this one. Let's let's uh we've got

896
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,559
eight team minute stuff. Well, we'll still hit a bunch

897
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:39,360
more games, but I know there's a ton of games,

898
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,320
and uh, we'll start to go a little bit quicker.

899
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: We'll get Brian Parlay's part Brian Powers Parlay Way.

900
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah even to say, easy to say.

901
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:57,079
Speaker 1: Be like Parlay Club Brian Parlay and anyway, any thoughts

902
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,639
on BYU minus ten and a half at day or Dayton.

903
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:04,199
Speaker 3: That's another MTE game down in somewhere.

904
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I think they're in Florida as well somewhere a lot

905
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,360
of a lot of these teams in Florida for the

906
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,960
for the weekend. Yes, I don't think Dayton is any

907
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,559
good like I think they I think they straight up

908
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,400
get smashed here. I don't know if like you're getting

909
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:23,159
much value on a BYU spread these days, because of

910
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,840
course they won and covered yesterday and and it feels

911
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,760
like everyone in the country loves this BYU team. Yes,

912
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:33,960
but like I think Dayton is a team that's gonna

913
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,079
like when they play competition that's like better than them.

914
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,800
I think they're gonna get run out of the gym.

915
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,719
They don't handle the ball well. They like a little

916
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,039
bit fortunate to win. Last night I watched them play

917
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:48,840
with Dune Cookman. They look terrible, totally just sloppy. That's

918
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,920
not gonna fly against BYU in my opinion. So I

919
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,079
would actually lay it with the Cougars here.

920
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,079
Speaker 2: Dayton's played a really weak You talk about being scared

921
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,840
of them when they step up in class. They've played

922
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,519
a pretty weak schedule to this point, Dayton two hundred

923
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,800
and twenty eighth in strength to schedule BYU. They've played

924
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,639
a much stronger schedule obviously, And you know, I their

925
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,280
only loss was the game against Yukon that we talked

926
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,639
about earlier. BYU doesn't turn the ball over. Dayton doesn't

927
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:18,400
turn you over. BYU doesn't. So you know, if you're

928
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,400
a lot of times for these underdogs to pull the upset,

929
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,039
they need to do one of two. They need they

930
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,440
need to either get hot from three or get extra

931
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,280
possessions with turning by turning you over. And I just

932
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,119
don't see Dayton doing that here at all. This game

933
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,440
is a Kissimi Florida by the way, for those keeping

934
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,880
spiral and another way, uh that you can create extra

935
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,519
possessions for yourself as offensive rebounding well, BYU is way

936
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,440
better than Dayton at that. So you know, it's a

937
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,199
big number to lay. But yeah, I think Dayton kind

938
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,199
of gets that there's the potential here for Dayton to

939
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:52,559
get run out of the gym.

940
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: I think b YU, as the season goes along, is

941
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,519
going to continue to just get better and better. Like

942
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,719
they are, They're just gonna I have a feeling that

943
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,320
some of the you know, the results early on. I

944
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,440
think there was a game where they kind of let

945
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,679
like Delaware hang around something or something like that.

946
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: Like by like January or February.

947
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: This team is just gonna be a wagon, as the

948
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,760
kids like to say, Brian, like, they're just gonna smash

949
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,320
teams and Dayton. You want to talk about a reason

950
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,920
to downgrade Dayton. Dayton lost to Cincinnati. Our boys from

951
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,079
the MAC Eastern Michigan just beat the Cincinnati Bearcats as like, yeah,

952
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,960
twenty half point underdog.

953
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: Like so that to me, like that loss looks a

954
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,280
lot worse to.

955
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Cincinnati, where Dayton wasn't even really that competitive loss by twelve,

956
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,199
That loss looks bad.

957
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Oh, the game you and I were together.

958
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: And UNBC took Dayton to like the wire ended up

959
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,480
being like a six point game. There is a I

960
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,079
have my my concerns with Dayton. I know they managed

961
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,719
to beat Marquette, I don't know. I still just don't

962
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,679
think they're very good, like I think, you know, I

963
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:00,960
think blows him out.

964
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,519
Speaker 3: Let's go to Garth.

965
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: He's donated again, so we're gonna we're gonna actually have

966
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,039
a pretty big opinion on this game. So trend play

967
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,920
Garth says. Trend Play Hawaii first half home games have

968
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:16,000
gone under in fifteen of the last twenty one play

969
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,320
Hawaii North Dakota first half under seventeen and a half. Now, Brian,

970
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,639
I'll let you comment on the totals trend. I do

971
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,119
wish we had Veno because he'd be all over any

972
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:28,960
sort of total type trend. But I do want to

973
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,880
talk about this game because I've had success playing against.

974
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,079
Speaker 3: This Hawaii team in their own building this year.

975
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: The market loves Hawaii this year they have had They

976
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,039
probably have one of the better teams that they've had

977
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,599
in a while, and they look like a real threat

978
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,199
to contend in the Big West for the first time

979
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,559
in a while. With that being said, the number on

980
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,800
a lot of these games for Hawaii gets out of control.

981
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:02,440
I played Utah Tech in this same area. You know,

982
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,840
it steamed all the way up to like seventeen and

983
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,880
a half or something from like fourteen or thirteen, like

984
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,280
it will move like five points. It was like a

985
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,280
six point game, easy win. Last week I cashed with

986
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,159
Arizona State. They were an underdog at Hawaii. Didn't think

987
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:20,719
that should have been the case. Now they certainly wouldn't be.

988
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,480
They ended up winning that game. I'm seeing eighteen and

989
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:26,760
a half's here, like I'm gonna have to dig into

990
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,199
North Dakota a little bit more. But I'll tell you

991
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,559
right off the bat, like that I've got that shirt.

992
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:34,559
I'm gonna wait and see how the day goes, Brian.

993
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,800
But if they're just gonna keep pouring money into this

994
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,039
midnight Hawaii tip stand alone, that tends to happen a

995
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:43,159
lot of times with Hawaii when they played like a

996
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:46,119
home game, there will be a point where I'll be

997
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,920
willing to punch back and take take North Dakota. So

998
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,920
I lean North Dakota here. But Garth also asked about

999
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,440
the total, So I'll let you take that part of.

1000
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna make North Dakota my leg of the parlay.

1001
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,639
This numbers, This number's way too high. This number is

1002
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,280
way too high. I'm seeing like I see an eighty eight.

1003
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,679
I know, yeah, I mean eight, it's up to eighteen. Yeah,

1004
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,599
I mean I know it's circa that's lead, which always

1005
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,280
makes you because it's a sharper book. But I just

1006
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,079
can't get to this number. I mean, for it's a

1007
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,440
straight numbers play. I hate to make you guys stay

1008
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:17,599
up to cash this three legger, but hey, sometimes good

1009
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,119
things come to those who wait. I just get I

1010
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,360
just think this numbers. I thought the number was a

1011
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,840
little high and open. Now it's moved an additional two points.

1012
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,199
I just straight numbers play. I'm going North Dakota. There,

1013
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,159
I get it with Trevor. I see what Trevor says

1014
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:34,559
in the chat that North Yes, there is a chance

1015
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,320
that that North Dakota. They fly out to Hawaii for

1016
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,280
Thanksgiving weekend. It's a lot nicer in Honolulu than it

1017
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,760
isn't far ago this time of year. I understand maybe

1018
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,559
they get distracted, but I don't know. I just think

1019
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,679
this number is way too high.

1020
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,639
Speaker 1: I think for me, especially right now, I just don't

1021
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,280
think Hawaii has like this huge home court edge that

1022
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
everyone bakes into the number, like the building is going

1023
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,599
to be half full at best. Like this isn't like

1024
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,159
I feel like back in the Mountain West days when

1025
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,280
Hawaii was in the Mountain West and played big games

1026
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,480
and like San Diego State would come in or like

1027
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,280
you know, like a like UNLV when they were good,

1028
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,719
or a team like that, like a BYU.

1029
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: They would get a big crowd. They've been in the Big.

1030
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,519
Speaker 1: West for a while, like they just did their home

1031
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:21,800
games just don't have that kind of juice anymore, and

1032
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,519
even last week getting a big twelve team in Arizona State,

1033
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:28,800
like it was a good crowd, wasn't a great crowd.

1034
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't like some like crazy atmosphere.

1035
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,519
Speaker 1: So North Dakota's to me, is gonna be a lot

1036
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,280
more like the Utah Tech game where it was like,

1037
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,039
you know, like maybe half full. And again, I just

1038
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:44,079
like the books are baking in this big home court

1039
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,360
edge for Hawaii. And on top of that, because Hawaii

1040
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
is a team that people are gravitating toward this year,

1041
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,880
there's like it shaded to Hawaii as well. So that's

1042
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,199
why our number is nowhere close to this. But I

1043
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,360
think are I think we're right about that. I think

1044
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,119
this should be close like thirteen, fourteen, eighteen. I mean,

1045
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,199
they Hawaii to win by To win this game by

1046
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,480
twenty is gonna have to dominate. I don't know if

1047
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,559
Hawaii is good enough to truly dominate.

1048
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: Yet.

1049
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: They're good. They're gonna win a lot of games. They're

1050
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,519
gonna win games like this, but win them by twenty.

1051
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,559
I gotta pump the breaks there, so I'm gonna do you.

1052
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: They just they only won by twelve over a non

1053
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,639
board team last time out now. They did beat Manhattan

1054
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,639
jasper man your Manhattan Jaspers by thirty.

1055
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Manhattan's been missing their best player all season.

1056
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,519
Speaker 2: And then they beat missing and then they beat Mississippi

1057
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,039
Valley State, who's of course just you know in atrocity.

1058
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,119
They beat them by thirty two. And they started out

1059
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:41,440
with three big wins, did the Warriors. But you know,

1060
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:43,519
since then, I mean, yeah, they've played a few close.

1061
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:45,840
The three straight games have been kind of close. You

1062
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,360
look at North Dakota, Okay, are they maybe a little

1063
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,519
road weary. They've been traveling all around. But their biggest

1064
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:59,519
loss so far this year was seventeen against Coastal Carolina.

1065
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:01,840
That great, but again, I don't.

1066
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: Know that's a I mean, that's so that I'll just

1067
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,599
speak on Coastal Carolina real quick.

1068
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 3: That was part of an MTE.

1069
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh that that game I believe was on the campus

1070
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,639
of Western Illinois.

1071
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,679
Speaker 3: I think they're the leather next? Did I get that

1072
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,679
the leather next?

1073
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:21,559
Speaker 1: That was like I believe that was day two of

1074
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,639
like one of these MTES where it's.

1075
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,559
Speaker 3: Like, how I messed up my camera? I think we're back?

1076
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: How you know day two of an MTE, Like how

1077
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,559
I'm not going to dock you that many points for

1078
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:37,719
for getting crushed on like the second day. Coastal Carolina

1079
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,360
is to me a very underrated team this year. So yeah,

1080
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:43,679
the more we we sort of ramble on about this

1081
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,519
one that the more I feel like I'm going to

1082
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,519
talk myself into staying up with you tonight and.

1083
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: Dakota Coda on the island.

1084
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: The chat really wants to hear about this Marquette game.

1085
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,000
And we get that one in before the We got

1086
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,760
the parley locked and so we have nine minutes. This

1087
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,480
is I believe Marquette Oklahoma, and I think this game

1088
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,679
is where Illinois Chicago plays. It's in Chicago. I believe

1089
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:11,760
it is at the Home of the Flames.

1090
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:16,039
Speaker 2: Yes, the u S Pavilion, Yes, yep.

1091
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Now I believe sponsored by Credit Won for those.

1092
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,039
Speaker 3: Heating track at home. But what do you make of

1093
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,559
this game? This was one I had a hard time

1094
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:24,679
making heads or tails up.

1095
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: Brian, I'll tell you what. Star K eighty seven took

1096
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,840
place at the UAS on Thanksgiving about forty years ago.

1097
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: But how about Scott Steiner.

1098
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,199
Speaker 1: How about Scott Steiner's like nephew bang and threes for

1099
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,840
us last night for Congress that's right.

1100
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely right. What do I think about Yeah,

1101
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,079
I mean, I get so everyone kind of is looking

1102
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:49,480
at this as a bi low spot for Shaka Smart.

1103
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,440
I don't know, I was like right on market with this.

1104
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:54,320
I didn't I you know, I didn't do a huge

1105
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,880
deep dive into this game. I'll be honest with you.

1106
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,559
It was just one of those things that I I

1107
00:51:57,639 --> 00:51:59,280
just when I made a number, it was like right

1108
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,079
on market. So I wasn't like I didn't. There were

1109
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:05,079
just other games that attracted me more. You know. The

1110
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,039
thing is you talk about being a by low spot

1111
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,039
on Marquette. This is why it was. I knew there

1112
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:12,719
was a reason Oklahoma has not covered five in a row.

1113
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:16,239
So you could argue from a value perspective, there's a

1114
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,920
little by low on both teams, so you know you

1115
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,679
can't buy low. You can only buy low on one,

1116
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,719
you can't buy low on both. Someone's gonna win, someone's

1117
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440
gonna lose. I I don't know this is this isn't

1118
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,800
like an e I'm a sorry gang. I mean, if

1119
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,760
you feel that passionately about markeatte, I'll tell you to

1120
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,480
bet it. I'm not gonna talk to you I'm not

1121
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,159
gonna sit here and say I feel strong enough about

1122
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:36,119
Oklahoma to talk you off of it. I'm just gonna

1123
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:37,519
tell you that I'm not gonna be betting this game

1124
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,079
here on Friday afternoon.

1125
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: Something's up with Marquette.

1126
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: That that's the thing, and and I like, so I

1127
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:51,360
badly want to like Marquette in this game. Yet Oklahoma's

1128
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,280
decided that's taking all the money right now up to

1129
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,559
two and a half some places from from this open pick,

1130
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,719
maybe maybe Oklahoma one.

1131
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 3: I'm seeing books going to two and a half on

1132
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:03,920
the Sooners.

1133
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,679
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's getting healthier now with Jones back. Yeah, you know,

1134
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,159
Marquette doesn't. And Marquette doesn't really have a second scoring

1135
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:13,960
option behind Ross, So you know, I think that's another

1136
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,480
concern for the Golden Eagle side.

1137
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:20,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I've watched Marquette's last three games, and big

1138
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:22,199
time concerns for me with this team. First of all,

1139
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:26,119
they lost to Maryland when Maryland was missing like three starters. Okay,

1140
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,519
Maryland was missing like three of their five starters, and

1141
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:34,840
they beat They beat Marquette, I believe in Milwaukee at

1142
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,960
five serve. So that is a that's actually a much

1143
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,519
worse loss than it looks like just looking at the

1144
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:45,400
box score. The next game, they lose to Dayton, also

1145
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,079
on their home floor, and I just ripped Dayton like

1146
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,760
ten minutes ago on this very show right here, just

1147
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,760
ten minutes ago, I talked about how I had to

1148
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,400
downgrade like Dayton even further for losing to Cincinnati, Like

1149
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,159
Marquette beat by Dayton at home, and then last time

1150
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:06,360
out they were, you know, kind of unimpressive against Central Michigan.

1151
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 3: Maye, what the chip it was, Brian, hang around? That

1152
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,239
was a five point game at halftime.

1153
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,519
Speaker 1: We end up winning by fifteen, but like I want

1154
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,039
to say, the number was like twenty two and a

1155
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:18,800
half twenty three. But again, like they I just don't

1156
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,960
trust Marquette right now, so probably sooners are past. But

1157
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,639
it's tough one that that's neutral court geographically, Marquette fans

1158
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:30,159
should be able to I don't know if you want

1159
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,480
to go to that part of Chicago, be honest, like

1160
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:33,320
they might stay home.

1161
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1162
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see at any rate. It's a tough one.

1163
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,480
It's a good discussion. I think you can make a

1164
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:47,320
lot of interesting points. Someone in uh, let's get Trevor says,

1165
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Marquette my biggest bet of the day shock over Porter Moser. Yeah,

1166
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,039
normally I would agree with that, but like I just

1167
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,199
feel like Marquette's off and that's why I can't get there.

1168
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you have two t I mean

1169
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,320
it's got you. You can argue the get right spot

1170
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,639
by low for either team. I mean that that makes

1171
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:04,480
a tough handicap.

1172
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,199
Speaker 3: John appreciate you.

1173
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,079
Speaker 1: Thank you for the kind words, he said, Adam Brian,

1174
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,519
you guys do a great job. And with Rob Veino's wisdom. Yes,

1175
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,119
Rob Veino is is he has the biggest brain at

1176
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:16,800
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Speaker 3: And I think anything not the end.

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Speaker 2: My brain not as big under this big mafiyes. I

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will say, if you're catching us on if you're catching

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us on replay, uh, and you weren't able to you know,

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not able to catch so live, not able to comment.

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Of course, we're live every ten am Monday through Friday

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Speaker 1: John says from snowy Northeast Ohio, he's your neighbor. Well,

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Northeast Ohio is a vast area.

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Speaker 2: Could be mm hmm. It is very snow here.

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Speaker 1: Snowy central New York right now too. We're we're probably

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getting all the same weather right now. We're gonna probably

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get buried over the next three days. Don't live close

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to a lake. That that's the moral of the story

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right there. Yeah, all right, this is an interesting one.

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Uh get back spot for Florida today, Maybe because I

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don't really care for their opponent opponent, but I don't

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really care for Providence. But does Florida look like a

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lot less athletic to you than they were last year?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And I was, I was, I I chickened out,

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I I I told you I think right before we

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went on the show that that I was low like Florida.

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I'm kind of like my power ratings have shown value

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to bet against them.

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Speaker 3: I did it.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing though, sometimes, you know, we talked about, oh,

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I wish I would have done that. I wish I

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would have bet against him last night, obviously, but you know,

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I remember my numbers show value against them when they

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were playing Miami, and it was that was a bet

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that I'm glad I did not make on the Hurricanes

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because Florida covered there. Look, Florida is a great rebounding team.

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We understood that. You know, I think that's gonna make

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up for a lot of their warts. For lack of

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a better term, I don't know, that might seem a

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little too harsh warts. I mean, obviously, it's a team

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that won the national championship. They're one of the ten

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to fifteen best teams in the country, still no doubt

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about it. But I don't know. I just I've every

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Florida game trigged pretty much. I've shown a little bit

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of value on the other side. Interestingly enough, though, and

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this is not what anyone wants to hear. This is

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sort of the first game where I'm not showing a

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lot of value, like I think the markets maybe kind

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of slightly even though they're taking money. You know, this

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number is up to twelve now, so I don't know.

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If it gets a little higher, I'm probably gonna show

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a little bit of value, But I don't want to

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bet Providence in this file.

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Speaker 3: Well you know, you know it'll kill value.

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Speaker 1: On on the other side of a team is when

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Florida loses to TCU, that's gonna be a value killer.

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Speaker 3: So like your numbers have been right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that Miami game, like they covered, but

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that was a more competitive game than fourteen Like it

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ended up being a fourteen point final, but Miami was

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in that game for long stretches. Of course, Florida State

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could have beat them. That was a two point game,

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you know, two point final. The other games they lose

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to Arizona to start the season. The other two were

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like North Florida and Merrimack are bad this year. So

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Florida's gonna need to show me a little bit more.

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But I'll say that, and I talked about this with

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Matt yesterday. I have a good buddy that went to

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Providence is pretty tuned into Providence basketball. I know, he's like,

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he's kind of my Providence insider, if you will. He

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told me that this team doesn't really get along. Like

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there's like so basically you have you have this weird dynamic,

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which I'm sure sort of happens in college sports now,

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where you have incoming freshmen and then you have upper

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classmen that transfer in, but they're still all new to

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the school, right, So like Brian, you know, you know,

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you went to high school and college, and it's like

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when you're a freshman, if if a senior, you know,

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they might talk down to you a little bit, especially

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if you're on a team, they might, you know, you

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kind of almost have to defer to the upper classmen. Well,

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what I'm hearing is that Kim English, coach of Providence,

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maybe like prefers the guys that he recruited his freshmen

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over the higher guns that he brought in. But like,

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those guys are upper classmens, so they probably feel like

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they're entitled to, like, you know, the treatment that an

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upper classman would get, but they're really all new to

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the school. And what he's telling me is it's created

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a dynamic that's not exactly ideal, and then Trevor in

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the chap basically said, well, this Providence team sucks.

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Speaker 3: Don't really agree.

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Speaker 2: Less technical handicap, yes, but yeah, yeah, like it's a.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I kind of think Providence

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might be just not very good. Like they've got a

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couple of players that can can score, and they have

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some redeeming qualities in that regard, but like, when I

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look at this roster overall, it's a lot of like

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B minus talent, you know, like especially you're talking about

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the context of the Big East. Like I kind of

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feel like this is a team that's like eighth or

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ninth in the Big East this year, and I just

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don't think that I really have any interest in backing

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them in any capacity.

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Speaker 3: Even here, I think i'd lean toward Florida.

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Speaker 2: All right, I think that's I think we've hit the hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have hit the hour, right, We're just cruising along.

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I kind of lost track of time. But yeah, before

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our stream gets cut, we should probably we should probably

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wrap up the parlay. So the three teamer today is

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a joint We've got each have a leg and then

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we have a joint leg. So the joint leg right state.

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Can we go plus fifteen and a half? Brian, if

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we put the minus one twenty in, is that fair

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or do we have to give out fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you there's no fifteen. Nobody's getting fifteen and

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a half at this point the fifteens are disappearing.

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Speaker 1: Let's call it fifteen, and I will attach a minus

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one twenty just to in case you have to like

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do an alt line or by the point, what are

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we looking at for North Dakota eighteen?

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Speaker 2: I think we can even that. We can do eighteen

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and a half.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen and a half. See that's you might even be

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able to wait if you want to bet that game.

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Speaker 2: Sit yeah, and I would wait. I would wait, yes.

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Speaker 1: And then Drake looks like twelve and a half just

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about everywhere. So that is the three teamer. We'll call

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it plus five sixty eight odds five sixty eight. We'll

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go Wright State plus fifteen, North Dakota State plus or

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north I'm sorry, let me start out write state plus fifteen.

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That's also a client play for both Brian and I.

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Three percent played for both of us. North Dakota plus

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eighteen and a half. Late night out on the island,

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and then I'm going to go with another one of

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my client plays. That's Drake plus twelve and a half

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night in Destin, Florida against LSU.

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Speaker 3: So that's the three teamer.

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Speaker 1: Drake plus twelve and a half North Dakota plus eighteen

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and a half Wright State plus fifteen, three double digit

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dogs for the parlay today, Brian, what could go wrong?

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Hopefully this is the day we get it done. We

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appreciate you guys hanging us out with us for Feast week.

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Hope everyone has a great weekend, enjoy some hoops, maybe

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some time with your family. Stay warm, stay safe, and

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we will be back Monday morning ten am for more

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