Speaker 1: All right, let's go Fred Rogan and Rodney Peak on
Speaker 1: a five to seventy LA Sports. We've got a full
Speaker 1: three hour show for you today because the Dodgers home
Speaker 1: against the A's.
Speaker 2: That'll work that, uh, Fred? Treating them like the damn
Speaker 2: Colorado Rockies. You're the Athletics a chance? No, No, you
Speaker 2: know it's sad. I think the Athletics are actually better
Speaker 2: than the Angels.
Speaker 3: They are, they are worlds better than the Angels. They're
Speaker 3: five hundred am I having the game over?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, they got a good young players. Actually, they're
Speaker 4: not that bad.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you got it into your mind
Speaker 2: because they playing Sacramento, Fred, is that why you think
Speaker 2: they're the minor league team or something?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've done this. Tell me if you've done
Speaker 1: it or not, you're not the MLB package. So I
Speaker 1: watch games all the time. I specifically watch the games
Speaker 1: in Tampa, where they play in a minor league stadium,
Speaker 1: and Sacramento, where they play in a minor league stadium.
Speaker 1: Have you done that?
Speaker 4: I have?
Speaker 2: I have watched Yes, I have watched the Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: Rays play and I've watched the A's play up in Sacramento.
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of disheartened me a little bit.
Speaker 1: Isn't it really?
Speaker 2: It is it is you feel bad for him. You
Speaker 2: feel bad for him that you know, this is a
Speaker 2: major league club and then you look up and you're
Speaker 2: like we were talking about yesterday with the Dodgers, new clubhouse,
Speaker 2: new visiting clubhouse, new you know, everything beautiful and plush
Speaker 2: when you come into the Blue Heaven. And then these
Speaker 2: guys got to go. I mean they just played the Yankees.
Speaker 2: I ain't there, right, And so the Yankees went to Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Imagine yank go from Yankee Stadium and then you're going
Speaker 2: to play the A's out there in Sacramento at a
Speaker 2: minor league park.
Speaker 1: They have people sitting on the grass in the outfield.
Speaker 4: Yes, do you.
Speaker 1: Believe that about a major league stadium.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a college World Series or something.
Speaker 4: It was. Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It is so bad for baseball. It is just so
Speaker 1: bad for baseball, and both the A's and Ray's our
Speaker 1: teams that don't spend a lot of money. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: the A's had a real problem with the storm in
Speaker 1: Tampa that destroyed their stadium, and now they're still trying
Speaker 1: to figure out if they're going to build a new
Speaker 1: one in Saint Pete, because they were going to build
Speaker 1: a brand new one, right, and then the city said,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah we don't. Yeah, there's not we don't drawing up anyway.
Speaker 2: Why are we going to do that.
Speaker 1: We're not going to give you the kind of deal
Speaker 1: we thought we would. So the owner of the rains says, well,
Speaker 1: then you suit yourself. We won't do it. They have
Speaker 1: nowhere to play, they have no where to play. And
Speaker 1: the a's is that thing has just been trashed and
Speaker 1: run into the ground. And now they're going to move
Speaker 1: to Oakland, where, of course the mayor of are they're
Speaker 1: going to move to Las Vegas, Vegas, And of course
Speaker 1: the mayor of Las Vegas said, you know, you really
Speaker 1: don't need to come. You really don't need to come.
Speaker 1: If you want to go back, feel free because in
Speaker 1: Vegas there's a mayor of the Strip and the Mayor
Speaker 1: of Vegas and the mayor of Vegas, and then you know,
Speaker 1: don't rush, there's no need for you to rush up.
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't rush, don't ruh. The stadium is they're
Speaker 2: building it though, aren't they? Yeah, I three years, I
Speaker 2: guess they play it three years.
Speaker 3: It has not broken ground quite yet. By the way,
Speaker 3: Brown breaking ceremony is schedule for next month, so technically
Speaker 3: they have not started.
Speaker 4: They have not done anything yet. So I mean, and
Speaker 4: technically they're were two years away at least.
Speaker 3: I think three, right, I think twenty eight. I think
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight is when they're Wow, they're gonna thinking
Speaker 3: tentatively to start?
Speaker 4: Are they going to continue to play in Sacramento for
Speaker 4: the next two years? Three years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right to play.
Speaker 2: Wow, almost you know, almost prefer them to go to Arizona,
Speaker 2: play one of those parks.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, well, not Chase Field. What do
Speaker 1: you mean, who whole kind of party?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Ho ho com talking stick, you know, talking stick, you know,
Speaker 2: Camelback Ranch, one of those fields and play there.
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not go to Tucson and play? Well, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: the A's had their spring training there. Why don't they
Speaker 1: just play there?
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 3: Well, I assume they're a Cactus League team. I know
Speaker 3: for a fact that they are. So if you're a
Speaker 3: Sacramento you're you're not really closer down the street from Oakland,
Speaker 3: but you're a close ish closer there than you would be.
Speaker 4: For your fans.
Speaker 2: For your fans, yeah, your fan base can drive up
Speaker 2: the rusts like an hour from Oakland Sacramento.
Speaker 4: So it's not that bad. But they weren't getting a
Speaker 4: whole lot of fans anyway.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say both fans and actually went to
Speaker 3: their games in Oakland anyway, can also just make the
Speaker 3: Sacramento Uh.
Speaker 1: That is sorry watching those guys play in minor league
Speaker 1: stadium though, I have to tell you, and that's why
Speaker 1: I specifically wanted to see. Okay, I'm gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and watch. Can you see a difference? Yes, when you
Speaker 1: watch it, does it feel different? Yes, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: look like the big time.
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: And it feels like the lighting's not that great. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's all these little things that just you can tell
Speaker 2: where this is like an off brand game?
Speaker 4: Where are they playing? This is an exhibition somewhere? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know you you turn on your watching the you
Speaker 2: know you watch the Guardians, you watch even the White Sox.
Speaker 4: Are you watching Boston? Are you watching anyway? Kansas City?
Speaker 4: You just as soon as you flip.
Speaker 2: It on, it's right, it's clear, it's clean, it's you know,
Speaker 2: you're watching a game at a big league park, whereas
Speaker 2: those two places.
Speaker 1: Man Man, Yeah, Baseball has not done a good job
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, rob Manfred has has innovated a
Speaker 1: number of things. He also called I think the World
Speaker 1: Series Trophy a piece of junk at one point when
Speaker 1: he was drunk. But they have not handled this kind
Speaker 1: of thing well at all. Then why didn't they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't, and and it was it. The mayor
Speaker 2: of Oakland, Alameda County is screwed up anyway. I know,
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with them. So they just decided that they
Speaker 2: were not going to allow them to play at the
Speaker 2: coliseum anymore. Right, so they said they were moving to Vegas.
Speaker 2: They said, okay, you can't play here anymore, but you
Speaker 2: can't renew, can't renew your lease, or can't do that.
Speaker 1: So they probably said, thank god, thank god, we can't renew.
Speaker 1: Thank god.
Speaker 2: You know, there's still a preferred playing there than the
Speaker 2: minor league stadium. Fred, when you think, well, I gotta
Speaker 2: tell you to be honest with Rodney, to be honest,
Speaker 2: if it's the Oakland Coliseum or Sacramento. In that one situation,
Speaker 2: I might pick Sacramento. That's how bad the coliseum was.
Speaker 2: That was all it is, just off, it really was,
Speaker 2: it really was.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were part of a group that tried
Speaker 1: to keep the Raiders there. You know how bad everything is.
Speaker 1: That thing was terrible. Hey, nobody cared.
Speaker 4: Nobody cared.
Speaker 2: And when you deal with but you felt like you
Speaker 2: were at a big league park though, Fred, you felt
Speaker 2: like you were in head dump, a dump.
Speaker 4: But a big league park nonetheless.
Speaker 1: Right, you felt like you were a dump. That's what
Speaker 1: you felt like. It was awful, awful, And when you
Speaker 1: leel with Oakland, you don't deal with Oakland. That's what
Speaker 1: people don't understand. Right, There's three municipalities that count, and
Speaker 1: everybody gets a vote and gets to extract their pound
Speaker 1: of flesh. That's why nothing gets.
Speaker 2: Done up and they're never on the same page, no,
Speaker 2: because their egos are so involved up there. It's it's
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. It's why you know all the teams left.
Speaker 2: I mean, you imagine at one point they had the A's,
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and the Golden State Warriors playing that same facility,
Speaker 2: that the same complex area right there, and all they
Speaker 2: gotta do is renovate it.
Speaker 4: Renovated.
Speaker 2: There's enough space to renovate it, build new new stadiums,
Speaker 2: new things there. It would have been it been like
Speaker 2: you know, almost like you know, so far right with football.
Speaker 2: Now you got into a dome and just all around
Speaker 2: that and just build around it. Yet again, they can
Speaker 2: get together and even when certain boat, you know, certain
Speaker 2: teams say we'll pitch in too. So there's no taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2: California doesn't do that right like other states. So even
Speaker 2: with that, the county and the city and like you said,
Speaker 2: the three municipalities could not get together because too many
Speaker 2: Eagles are involved.
Speaker 1: So they lost all three teams. And now look at
Speaker 1: the city of Oakland, by the way, Yeah, look at Oakland.
Speaker 1: Look at San Francisco. Yeah, they're separated by the bridge.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're basically in the same place. It's like
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth, right, San Francisco Oakland. Look at what
Speaker 1: has happened with the way that city has been operated.
Speaker 1: They've lost their professional teams. I'm sure property values have decreased.
Speaker 1: Anything that's worth anything is in San Francisco. So you're
Speaker 1: kind of an outlier up there because of the decisions
Speaker 1: they've made, their inability to look forward, their refusal to
Speaker 1: work together. And now you see what Oakland has become.
Speaker 1: So and now the Oakland A's are no longer the
Speaker 1: Oakland A's, nor are they the Sacramento as. They are
Speaker 1: simply the athletics. They have no home. They are the athletics.
Speaker 1: If they were in your heart, then they play in
Speaker 1: your city. They are the athletics that will be playing
Speaker 1: the Dodgers tonight.
Speaker 4: And the thing about it is crazy.
Speaker 2: When I used to really like the Oakland A's growing
Speaker 2: up a little bit, I thought they're you know, especially
Speaker 2: because during the time I started to get into sports
Speaker 2: in the early seventies, they were winning championships.
Speaker 4: Reddy Jackson and Sally.
Speaker 2: They had the big names, right, Riley Fingers in sal Bando,
Speaker 2: and it was the owner was that Charlie Finley was
Speaker 2: the owner, and he was a flashy guy, right, And
Speaker 2: they were the first, I think, to start wearing white.
Speaker 4: Shoes, you know, And so they were cool. They were cool.
Speaker 4: Oakland A's were cool. And look where the are now.
Speaker 4: Look with it.
Speaker 2: Do you think they can survive? I mean, do you
Speaker 2: think they survived night, But do you think they thrive
Speaker 2: or do much better in Vegas given that it's a
Speaker 2: summertime sport and Vegas is one hundred and ten in
Speaker 2: the summer.
Speaker 1: Do I think they'll draw better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll draw better than Oakland, for sure, they have it.
Speaker 2: But do you think that they do well in Vegas?
Speaker 2: You think baseball does well? I mean people said hockey
Speaker 2: couldn't survive in Vegas and it's gone through the roof.
Speaker 1: And Hockey's killed it. Yeah, and I'm sure the NBA
Speaker 1: went against there will do that as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NBA will kill it in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Sure, and certainly Mark Davis has pleased and he moved
Speaker 1: the Raiders there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But baseball's a different animal. There are so many games,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. I mean, there's too many games in
Speaker 1: every sport quite honestly. Oh you're not a sports fan,
Speaker 1: Yes I am, And as a sports fan, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you there are too many games. True, But that will
Speaker 1: never change in baseball. I mean, the Dodgers are an anomaly.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what game you go to. It's hard
Speaker 1: to get a ticket. It's hard to get a ticket.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be at least forty five fifty thousand people
Speaker 2: in stands on a regular basis on a Tuesday night
Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium playing the Athletics. I mean, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be that many people there. You can't get there anywhere else.
Speaker 2: But I just don't know Vegas. You know, seven o'clock
Speaker 2: game on a Tuesday in Las Vegas, where it's still
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock, it is still one hundred and five.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get people to go out?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I know it's domed and it's gonna be covered, and
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about the problems that Arizona Diamondbacks
Speaker 2: have had. I mean, thank God that they've won lately,
Speaker 2: so they get some crowds there. A lot of those
Speaker 2: crowds come from the teams that they're playing. They had
Speaker 2: many Dodger fans at that stadium at Chased, then they
Speaker 2: had Diamondback fans.
Speaker 4: So I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if baseball survives or at least thrives
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: The only way for it to do that. And I
Speaker 1: have no idea what ticket prices and other markets are.
Speaker 1: I know they're probably less, except if you're dealing with
Speaker 1: the Yankees. But uh, they need to make those tickets
Speaker 1: ultra affordable. Whatever the definition of that is ultra affordable.
Speaker 1: They need people in the building, so whatever that means,
Speaker 1: whatever that costs, that's what they need to do. Don't
Speaker 1: come in there with prices like you're in New York
Speaker 1: or LA. Yeah, make it up some other way, right,
Speaker 1: make it up. You have some incredible restaurants concessions in there.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe add an extra dollar to the dog.
Speaker 1: But let people get into the building because once you
Speaker 1: get them into building, they're gonna spend money on food
Speaker 1: and beer and everything else. But if you're you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, if they've got the second highest ticket
Speaker 1: prices in the league, people are gonna.
Speaker 2: I ain't going, as a family of four gonna go.
Speaker 2: Remember Vegas, Vegas is not stripped. You know, the Strip
Speaker 2: is one percent of Vegas. There's a whole community to
Speaker 2: people that live in Vegas that have nothing to do, well,
Speaker 2: let's say nothing, but they don't. They don't hang out
Speaker 2: on the Strip where it's glitzy and glamour. It's big,
Speaker 2: big time whales spending all kinds of money. It's the
Speaker 2: people that live there, the residents are the ones that
Speaker 2: you're counting on not going to spend that kind of money.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. And I've learned that from
Speaker 1: working in the desert when I do covering things here
Speaker 1: of course in la as well. You know where they
Speaker 1: get you, you know where everybody gets you. It's not
Speaker 1: necessarily you know, you said, let's make these tickets affordable,
Speaker 1: and maybe they make it up a buck moore a
Speaker 1: dog or something like that. You know where they really
Speaker 1: get you parking. Yeah, they get you in parking everywhere.
Speaker 1: That's where they make their money. Parking. So the tickets,
Speaker 1: for example, a hockey ticket out here could be thirty bucks.
Speaker 1: You go, okay, that's fine, right, little small market. Yeah,
Speaker 1: parking is forty Yeah, think about that question. More a
Speaker 1: park and go to the game. That's where they make
Speaker 1: their money. Always in parking.
Speaker 4: Yeah they do, Yeah they do.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know most places now they have
Speaker 2: a special area for rides here now and now you're
Speaker 2: sure they're charging those rights. Her companies of fortune to
Speaker 2: be able to pull in and drop off and pick
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 1: I think, Kevin, what they're doing down in Orange County,
Speaker 1: the Sam Welli's with the Ducks correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: They're starting a new program there where when you buy
Speaker 1: a ticket, the cost of parking is already figured in.
Speaker 3: That is true. You pay for PID, your ticket and
Speaker 3: your parking, and basically you drive up to the parking
Speaker 3: garage or whatever it is, you scan your ticket, it
Speaker 3: lets you in. You don't have to pay for parking.
Speaker 3: In addition, it's all included.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm sure that they've increased the price, sure, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they figured it in, right, Yeah, they figured it in.
Speaker 1: But I think that's a much.
Speaker 3: Better psychologically too. It probably tells the fan like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm not paying for parking. They kind of are, but
Speaker 3: you don't realize that you are. So I'm sure that
Speaker 3: that kind of plays into it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that that's where they always get you though. Parking
Speaker 1: and sure, ride shares are more available now, but in
Speaker 1: some places they're very difficult to get to. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you want to take rideshair, sure, just walk about a
Speaker 1: half mile to the right and that's the ride share area.
Speaker 1: So go ahead. Some places do that too to make
Speaker 1: it more difficult for you to get the ride shair
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, go to lot h yeah to walk
Speaker 1: a mile leave now and by eleven forty five you'll
Speaker 1: be there. Hell, you'll be home by one. Now, that's
Speaker 1: a night on the town. Anybody can appreciate you believe
Speaker 1: in conspiracy theories. I'm not a guy that does that personally.
Speaker 1: I think if you do, you have too much time
Speaker 1: on your hands. Nonetheless, are we dealing with one that's next?
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Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Roddie Pete, Fred Rogan on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, I don't know if you believe
Speaker 1: in conspiracy theories. I'm not that guy. I've never been
Speaker 1: the guy that sits in the basement with the lights
Speaker 1: dimly lit, stared at the wall and tried to decide
Speaker 1: if something wasn't real, Did man walk on the moon?
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. I'm not a conspiracy guy, never
Speaker 1: have been. And every time something in the world of
Speaker 1: sports happens that seems bit odd or unusual, there's an
Speaker 1: immediately there's an immediate suspicion of conspiracy. If something was rigged.
Speaker 1: If something wasn't right, Well, if you were ever going
Speaker 1: to say that, I would think given what happened in
Speaker 1: the NBA Draft lottery last night, you you might start
Speaker 1: considering it. The Dow's Mavericks had a one point eight
Speaker 1: chance to finish in the top spot. One point eight
Speaker 1: basically negligible, and somehow, some way the balls bounced in
Speaker 1: their favoryikes and they ended up with a number one pick. Now,
Speaker 1: if you look at things to the conspiracy eyeglass, if
Speaker 1: they well, they just got torched in that city. I
Speaker 1: mean they traded Luca. They got Anthony Davis. Lucas a
Speaker 1: top five player in the league. His jersey is top
Speaker 1: three in sales. And I got Anthony Davis, who's a
Speaker 1: hell of a player, but he's not Luca. The fans
Speaker 1: were upset, holding up signs to fire the general manager.
Speaker 1: The general manager really couldn't even show his face in
Speaker 1: the arena.
Speaker 4: It was so bad.
Speaker 1: People were losing faith in a team in a top
Speaker 1: ten market. Dallas is important to the league, So lo
Speaker 1: and behold the team with probably the worst chance to
Speaker 1: win the lottery and get Cooper Flag wins the lottery
Speaker 1: and they get the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: All right, Rodney, Now when you hear that, do you
Speaker 1: think there was any funny business here?
Speaker 4: What do you say?
Speaker 2: The percentage was one eight, So you're saying there's a
Speaker 2: chance there you.
Speaker 4: Go, there you go? Uh, No, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that there was a there's a conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory when you when you do those things and those lotteries,
Speaker 2: it can go any any kind of way. If you
Speaker 2: believe in that, then you got to believe that all
Speaker 2: the state lotteries are rigged and fixed. Although I do
Speaker 2: know someone that's wonted three times. No, you don't weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know who won it three times? Who for a
Speaker 2: different amount is Hollywood Henderson used to play the linebacker
Speaker 2: for the calib for the Cowboys back. Yes, he won
Speaker 2: the lottery three times, and one of them was a
Speaker 2: big one. It's okay, bit we wanted and it's it
Speaker 2: was the quick picks. Yeah, it was one of those
Speaker 2: quick picks or state. I've figures which one it was
Speaker 2: that he won, But it was the state lottery that
Speaker 2: he won in Texas and uh three times, three times,
Speaker 2: three times in the span of like ten years. How
Speaker 2: much money did he win? One was a big one.
Speaker 2: One was like I think it was was a over
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars something to stop it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: one was a big one. Yeah, one was a big one.
Speaker 2: The other one, we're not too shabby either. So I uh, no,
Speaker 2: I do I do not think so. I mean it
Speaker 2: sounds that way because they maybe the league feels bad
Speaker 2: for Dallas and losing Luca, and they need to reward
Speaker 2: the Mavericks because they, you know, they liked the market
Speaker 2: of Dallas and and it's a shame that they lost
Speaker 2: the superstars.
Speaker 4: So let's bring him another one.
Speaker 2: I get where people can see that and think, oh man,
Speaker 2: this is no way.
Speaker 4: Because even before.
Speaker 2: The before the lottery, you know, all the analysts were
Speaker 2: out there saying where where would be the best place
Speaker 2: for for Cooper Flag to go? Where would you like
Speaker 2: to see him go? What would be the best place,
Speaker 2: and the and the MAVs were and everybody's like, top three,
Speaker 2: that would be great, It'd be great. He goes to
Speaker 2: the MAVs, he can you know, work with him down there.
Speaker 2: And then another one with san Antonio, him and Wemby
Speaker 2: playing together was another one that people said it would
Speaker 2: be a good one for them. By the way, san
Speaker 2: Antonio has got the second pick, don't they Yeah, and
Speaker 2: this year right right, so you know they've had back
Speaker 2: to back and then they got the second pick this year.
Speaker 2: So one could argue that there's something happening with san
Speaker 2: Antonio them trying to make them good.
Speaker 4: I just I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it yet, you know, because if you're
Speaker 2: is that the place, like, if you're the NBA, is
Speaker 2: that the place where you.
Speaker 4: Want Cooper Flag to go?
Speaker 2: Who is obviously the consensus number one going to be
Speaker 2: a superstar?
Speaker 4: I believe in the league. He is.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's a highlight reel. Don't you want to see
Speaker 2: him in New York? Maybe Brooklyn? You certainly don't want
Speaker 2: to see him. Now if youd have went to the Wizards,
Speaker 2: that's how you know definitely was not rigged. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to go to or Charlotte. But Charlotte you might understand
Speaker 2: because Carolina, you know North Carolina duke kid. You might
Speaker 2: understand Charlotte, but no, or you might understand New Orleans.
Speaker 2: You know him going to team up with Zion, two
Speaker 2: duke guys together. Well, Chicago. But I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think there was any conspiracy, but it
Speaker 1: was a bit convenient. Let's say that Lebron was on
Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show about a month ago and he
Speaker 1: remembered that when he came out of high school, it
Speaker 1: was funny that he ended up with the Calves who
Speaker 1: had the first pick. Here's Lebron during the ball drop.
Speaker 7: You know, during the lottery drop, Cleveland got the number
Speaker 7: one pick. That's not I just don't think that was
Speaker 7: just keep Lebron home, you know what, Patrick going to
Speaker 7: the Knicks, you know, Darrin Rose to the understand Simon Gosham,
Speaker 7: you know, so you know it's I had to make
Speaker 7: sure that, you know, I had to do my part.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Hm hmm.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, when you think about it, I could
Speaker 2: see where one would suggest that they they may have
Speaker 2: wanted this to happen and wield it to happen and
Speaker 2: manifested it. Fred for Lebron, Akron kid Akron, Ohio's keep
Speaker 2: him in Cleveland and Derek Rose right Chicago kids staying
Speaker 2: in Chicago. You know, stranger thing, is it?
Speaker 4: Happened. I should say one thing.
Speaker 3: I will say, so the year that Lebron was taking
Speaker 3: first overall, the Cavaliers actually at the best odds of
Speaker 3: any team in the lottery to get a little kid,
Speaker 3: and the Sun picked right. So it was very much
Speaker 3: different than this situation. For Dallas, they had a twenty
Speaker 3: two and a half percent chance of winning the lottery,
Speaker 3: greater than anybody else because they have the worst record
Speaker 3: the year before.
Speaker 1: Kevin, do you think this thing is uh rigged?
Speaker 3: No, it's ridiculous. It's a convenient narrative for people to
Speaker 3: throw out there.
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, there's a there media member.
Speaker 3: They started doing this. I think over the last ten years,
Speaker 3: members of the media go back when the actual lottery
Speaker 3: is happening with the thousands of balls or however many
Speaker 3: they are for full transparency, so they can't it's not
Speaker 3: just a frozen envelope theory. Even back in the day
Speaker 3: with David Stern and Patrick Ewing, so there there are
Speaker 3: a number of people who are actually watching the lottery
Speaker 3: happen live in real time. One thing I think that
Speaker 3: would help greatly, and I still don't know why the
Speaker 3: NBA doesn't do it. If you don't want to do
Speaker 3: it live, you think it takes too much time. Fine,
Speaker 3: take record the actual lottery itself and the put it
Speaker 3: up on your YouTube page or something afterwards, so people
Speaker 3: can actually watch exactly how it happened. So that can
Speaker 3: really dispel any notions of any conspiracy. But there's actual people,
Speaker 3: media members who are live in person watching the lottery
Speaker 3: happen to make sure that none of these theories sprout up.
Speaker 3: And yet they still sprout up anyway.
Speaker 1: So that's a good point first. And Mark mcdeina was
Speaker 1: one of those people a couple of years.
Speaker 3: It was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, And they lock in the room and
Speaker 1: they you going there at one o'clock and you can't
Speaker 1: use your phone talk to anybody.
Speaker 3: They take your phones away.
Speaker 1: Right, so you're locked in a room and you can't
Speaker 1: come out.
Speaker 2: How many how many people are doing how many media
Speaker 2: members are allowed in there?
Speaker 4: Did they have in there? I don't know?
Speaker 2: And then and the purpose is what So there's nothing
Speaker 2: like like we're talking about right now, there's no funny business.
Speaker 2: It's it's like they got outside witnesses to see these
Speaker 2: balls being juggled and picked the right way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly why they do it. But I think Kevin,
Speaker 1: that's brilliant. The minute the TV broadcast is over, put
Speaker 1: it up on your YouTube page. The whole thing, however
Speaker 1: long takes, and it really doesn't take very long.
Speaker 4: Put it up there.
Speaker 1: Let everybody sit back and watch it when it's all done.
Speaker 1: That's a really smart idea. They should do that.
Speaker 3: And it's all fourteen media members, by the way, fourteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, who go back for a couple of times
Speaker 2: and like, obviously, you know, Wemby was consensus obviously number one. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Cooper flag will be this year, you know,
Speaker 2: going back to the Patrick Ewing, I mean, Jordan wasn't
Speaker 2: even the first pick. It was Elijah one was right, right, yep,
Speaker 2: But that the the consistent number one pick went to
Speaker 2: a place that was oh that was a little shady
Speaker 2: that that couldn't have happened naturally. Can you remember more
Speaker 2: or any other than you know, you know, everybody said Wemby.
Speaker 2: It would be a perfect matchup with Popovich right in
Speaker 2: San Antonio because he's had Tim Dunk and he said
Speaker 2: David Robinson, he knows how to handle the bigs and
Speaker 2: he's a great coach and should be there. But that
Speaker 2: didn't throw off conspiracy theories and say, oh they rigged that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think back, was Zion, right? Zion was
Speaker 2: a consensus number one.
Speaker 4: He was definitely Yeah, him going to New Orleans? Was
Speaker 4: that like some conspiracy you think?
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean the only way I think I
Speaker 3: can think of the most popular one as the Patrick
Speaker 3: Ewing and that was all the way back in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Since then, I can't really think of it.
Speaker 4: In New York. Yeah, to the Knicks, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the most popular one that people try to throw
Speaker 3: out there. That was the frozen envelope theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we want we want Patrick Ewing and the
Speaker 2: big Apple in the big city and and bring back
Speaker 2: the Knicks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just again, I don't buy the conspiracy, but I'll
Speaker 1: say this, awfully lucky for the Mavericks. I don't buy
Speaker 1: the conspiracy, but we lucky. Who knew? Who would I
Speaker 1: thunk that? At one o'clock, Jerry Harriston Junior will join
Speaker 1: the show. You know, we talked about it what earlier
Speaker 1: in the week, or yeah, we talked about it yesterday. Okay,
Speaker 1: what really happened when the Dodgers celebrated in the pool
Speaker 1: in Arizona. What really happened there? Well, we're going to
Speaker 1: ask Jerry that question, and two o'clock we'll get into
Speaker 1: the NBA with Assualty a Adam Auslin.
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Speaker 4: All right, and now.
Speaker 1: From the court to the court room with Jacob and Ronnie. Okay,
Speaker 1: now are weekly chat with a good friend Jacob and
Speaker 1: Ronnie and Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 5: Good afternoon?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing well?
Speaker 4: Jacob doing well? Doing all right?
Speaker 1: I have a question off Tom. I've never asked you
Speaker 1: this before, but I was thinking about it in the break.
Speaker 1: What is the weirdest case that you have ever been
Speaker 1: involved in?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've had a few, I uh to pop
Speaker 5: in my mind. One weird case is that I had
Speaker 5: had a young lady who reached out to us and
Speaker 5: said that she had suffered a slip and fall at
Speaker 5: Cheesecake Factory. And that is not so odd, even though
Speaker 5: Cheesecake Factory their floors are always very slippery. When we
Speaker 5: asked her what kind of shoes she was wearing, she
Speaker 5: said she was wearing these heels, and there was those
Speaker 5: very thick, you know, front, very platform heels, and Cheescake
Speaker 5: Factory denied the claim, saying that no, she never fell here.
Speaker 5: So we have to find a witness, and the witness
Speaker 5: was the individual that she was out to dinner with.
Speaker 5: And when we wanted to get the person she was
Speaker 5: out to dinner with to testify, he wouldn't testify. And
Speaker 5: it took us about a year and a half to
Speaker 5: two years to find out that not only were they
Speaker 5: not husband and wife, but the gentleman was having an
Speaker 5: affair with her. For that reason, he could not testify,
Speaker 5: and it became a it went from a slip and
Speaker 5: fall case to you know, us having to try to
Speaker 5: figure out what's the best route to go forward, you know,
Speaker 5: not to unfortunately ruin people's lives. And you know, it
Speaker 5: ended up well at the end of the day because
Speaker 5: I think she used whatever type of method in order
Speaker 5: to make sure that he does end up testifying and
Speaker 5: writing and he never had to come to a deposition.
Speaker 5: But that was a very weird one. And I have
Speaker 5: another one. You want to hear another one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but first did those two wind up together?
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 5: Not even close? But he definitely, he definitely ended up
Speaker 5: making sure that she got paid and she got paid
Speaker 5: really really well, so you know that that's fixed in
Speaker 5: my mind. And another one was, unfortunately, you know, a
Speaker 5: lady who had claimed that her you know, breast implants
Speaker 5: had popped during a you know, an auto accident, and
Speaker 5: I didn't know much about you know, uh implants and
Speaker 5: plastic surgery and all of those things, and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: we have to learn a lot about that and through
Speaker 5: the process got a real understanding about why she got
Speaker 5: her implants and having to try to get the plastic
Speaker 5: surgeon who did the implants to testify, And you know,
Speaker 5: I have a lot of respect for doctors, but sometimes,
Speaker 5: you know, they're a little bit difficult to deal with,
Speaker 5: especially in the plastic surgery part of the world. So
Speaker 5: there was a lot of psychology and psychiatry we have
Speaker 5: to do in order to be able to, you know,
Speaker 5: get that particular plastic surgeon, you know, to testify for us,
Speaker 5: because he was a very well known plastic surgeon who
Speaker 5: was on TV at that time, and you know, I
Speaker 5: don't know if he necessarily wanted to be involved in
Speaker 5: such a case. So I deal with weird cases all
Speaker 5: the time, but those two, you know, stand out in
Speaker 5: my mind just because of the fact that you have
Speaker 5: to deal with a lot of outside forces in order
Speaker 5: to prove our case, and that's not always easy when
Speaker 5: they don't have a vested interests in the case. But
Speaker 5: there's such an integral part of your case.
Speaker 1: Did the plastic surgeon testify.
Speaker 5: He finally did. Yes, he finally did after you know,
Speaker 5: he found out that he can have permission in order
Speaker 5: to use that as part of his marketing, and he
Speaker 5: ended up using it as part of his marketing. So
Speaker 5: of course, you know, it was basically a give and
Speaker 5: take but it was just just crazy because I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, you hear that professionals, even sometimes attorneys or doctors,
Speaker 5: they have this God complex and it's very difficult to
Speaker 5: deal with people who you know, put themselves in front
Speaker 5: of their client their patients. And you know, I remember
Speaker 5: that very clearly because I had to take the guy
Speaker 5: out to lunch at these three different times and you know,
Speaker 5: have him understand why this was so important for this
Speaker 5: lady who had spent every penny of her savings for
Speaker 5: you know, a couple of years in order to get
Speaker 5: all of these procedures at his office. And the least
Speaker 5: he could do right now is just give us an
Speaker 5: expert opinion on how you know such an accident could
Speaker 5: have caused this. And you know, obviously, being who he was,
Speaker 5: his testimony would have been very key because of his
Speaker 5: credibility was very high. So it ended up it ended
Speaker 5: up well. But again, you know, we have to go
Speaker 5: through a lot of you know, work, even for the
Speaker 5: most basic aspects of cases that you never think, you know,
Speaker 5: would require the type of effort that we put in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh interesting. I'm sure if we give you time,
Speaker 2: you come up with ten other cases that are probably
Speaker 2: strange and weird to most people.
Speaker 4: Another thing that's not strange, Jacob.
Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday is that Bill Plashki wrote
Speaker 2: that in order for the Lakers to be contenders going forward,
Speaker 2: they're going to have to trade, as painful as it
Speaker 2: may be, trade Austin Reeves.
Speaker 4: You what do you make of that?
Speaker 2: And would you trade Austin Reeves to get a quality
Speaker 2: big in here?
Speaker 4: He was part of the package.
Speaker 5: So that's crazy because I think this con you know,
Speaker 5: this concept of Austin Reeves being traded has caught so much,
Speaker 5: you know, it's gotten a lot of speed in the
Speaker 5: past couple of days, and I'm reading about it all
Speaker 5: over the place, and I think one of the things
Speaker 5: that I read was the fact that, you know, the
Speaker 5: Lakers can only pay him twenty million, but if he
Speaker 5: opts out, he can go into the open market and
Speaker 5: get upwards of forty million. So I think if if
Speaker 5: the Lakers can't come up with a way to keep him,
Speaker 5: then obviously you don't want to lose him in the
Speaker 5: open market for nothing. I'm not one that is looking
Speaker 5: at Austin's playoff performance as a way to evaluate him.
Speaker 5: I think he's been great for the Lakers. I think
Speaker 5: he's been great for the team. Obviously the playoffs were
Speaker 5: not you know, was not great for him. But it's
Speaker 5: a little difficult for me because it just depends what
Speaker 5: type of the big you're getting back for him, because
Speaker 5: I do believe you're losing a lot of firepower and
Speaker 5: scoring by, you know, by losing him. And I think
Speaker 5: the big that Luca needs is somebody who can play
Speaker 5: well off of, you know, the dunk position on the court.
Speaker 5: And I don't necessarily think that you have to get
Speaker 5: a superstar to do that. I think you just got
Speaker 5: to get a young, active, you know, center or two
Speaker 5: that can do the work because you know, Luca is great,
Speaker 5: but he has to have the ball, and you know,
Speaker 5: it just depends on who you bring on board. So
Speaker 5: long answer, I think it all depends on who. You know,
Speaker 5: you would need to trade Austin for Jacob.
Speaker 1: Our listeners love and you offer serious advice about the
Speaker 1: law and how about this, what are your rights if
Speaker 1: you're involved in an accident but you're a passenger?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know we've talked about passengers and used
Speaker 5: to talk a lot more about them, you know, in
Speaker 5: the past, because a lot of people who were passengers
Speaker 5: in an uber would get injured, and most of the
Speaker 5: time they would just sit and stay in the car
Speaker 5: while the uber driver the lyft driver would get out
Speaker 5: exchange information with the other party, and usually they would
Speaker 5: be the one that does. You know, don't have too
Speaker 5: much information. But as a passenger, you're always fault free
Speaker 5: and you have the highest amount of right, and whether
Speaker 5: that means you recover from the insurance company of the
Speaker 5: vehicle you're in if the driver of your car was
Speaker 5: at fault, or if you're recovering from the opposite party
Speaker 5: because the other party was at fault. But one of
Speaker 5: the things that we have to remember is that if
Speaker 5: you're even a passenger in a vehicle with a friend,
Speaker 5: you can recover. But if you're a passenger in a
Speaker 5: vehicle maybe with your own relative, maybe your father's driving,
Speaker 5: your mother's driving, and they're at fault, you're not able
Speaker 5: to recover from that passenger being a passenger from that
Speaker 5: vehicle if you live in the same household, so you know,
Speaker 5: someone's kid or someone's wife cannot sue their own husband
Speaker 5: or recover from their own husband when they're a passenger.
Speaker 5: But as a passenger and the majority of the other situations,
Speaker 5: you have the highest amount of protection and no matter
Speaker 5: who's that fault, you can make a recovery. That's why
Speaker 5: as passengers, I always encourage our listeners to be proactive,
Speaker 5: take action. Don't just sit there. Whatever information is being
Speaker 5: exchanged between your driver and the other party, ask for
Speaker 5: a copy of it. Take a picture of both vehicles,
Speaker 5: because sometimes you're the one who gets stuck in the middle.
Speaker 5: If your driver says it's the other person's fault and
Speaker 5: the other person says it's your driver's fault, the one
Speaker 5: thing you have going for you that is not your fault,
Speaker 5: and you will make a recovery. Whether it's fifty percent
Speaker 5: from the other side and fifty percent from the vehicle
Speaker 5: you were in, one hundred percent one side and the other.
Speaker 5: No matter what happens, you stand to make a recovery.
Speaker 5: And that's the reason that you need to make sure
Speaker 5: that you are active, very active and aggressive in terms
Speaker 5: of protecting your rights.
Speaker 1: The passenger outstanding, good advice, Jacob, and we appreciate you
Speaker 1: checking in again.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back top of the hour,
Speaker 1: Jerry Hairston Junior joined us. We'll talk some Dodgers. We'll
Speaker 1: find out what happened in the pool in Arizona. At
Speaker 1: least i'll ask the question. Rokie Sazaki's velocity is down.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that as well.