WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.919 All right, everybody, we are back. Thank you for waiting 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.519 patiently joining me right now. Jay Dyer, what's up? Man, 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:10.720 Hey dude, very excited, very excited to have you on. 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.000 You're I was saying in the break one of the 5 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.760 most requested guests that the show has ever had. I've 6 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.440 had many messages to have you on, so it's pretty exciting. 7 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:22.719 Your author, comedian, host of The Alex Jones Show, writer 8 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:27.079 for Sam Hyde, Doug a lot of other stuff too. 9 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:31.359 Yeah. Man, it's been a crazy past few years. 10 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.079 Things have kind of blown up and snowballed, and a 11 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.880 lot of different things going on. Glad to be here 12 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:38.439 with you. I was watching some of your stand up. 13 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:39.200 I was enjoying it. 14 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:41.359 Oh, thanks man, appreciate it. Yeah, I was watching a 15 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.039 lot of your life from so actually hold on. Your 16 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:48.079 video jumped up here for some reason. Okay, cool, all right, 17 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.719 So you cover a lot of stuff. I'm not well 18 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.560 versed enough I know you. Did you do a lot 19 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:58.320 of these streams with like all the these religion debates. 20 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.520 Not not exactly my wheelhouse, but you know, you're a 21 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:03.799 big technology guy. It seems like you're big like crypto 22 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:07.680 stuff like that. So do you do you have any 23 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.760 Have you been following this deep sea thing and how 24 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.680 it relates to like the Stargate and all that stuff 25 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:13.760 like Project Stargate. 26 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.760 Yeah, I mean I'll follow the Stargate stuff pretty heavily, 27 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.439 and I just saw the the Chinese stuff today. I 28 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:25.359 don't know what all the plans are behind all that, 29 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.400 but yeah, I'm in pretty much just a bitcoin dude, 30 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:31.480 So I don't really get into even stocks very much. 31 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.599 I mean I bought some here and there, but I'm 32 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.400 pretty much all in on bitcoin. So you know, to me, 33 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:40.280 it didn't really affect a whole lot today. 34 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.120 I mean, I mean, the bitcoin went down a few 35 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:43.120 percent today. 36 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.200 But yeah, I was I didn't even I didn't even 37 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.319 mean in relation to specifically like stock prices or asset 38 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:50.599 prices or anything like that. But so, like the Project 39 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:54.719 Stargate thing, essentially they're putting together this giant like conglomerate 40 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:01.280 for like this giant AI thing. And then yeah, go ahead, well. 41 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:02.359 Yeah, I know I was going to say that I 42 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.959 looked into some last fourth dollar of alex I covered that. 43 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:10.280 I kind of think that it's just like a pr 44 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.840 thing to try to get money and attention. It doesn't 45 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.000 even really exist yet, you know, Musk was criticizing it 46 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.000 as something that doesn't even really have the funding, and 47 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.680 so maybe Trump was trying to just kind of get 48 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.199 some pr and get attention to you know, America is 49 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:26.719 going to be the capital of crypto. 50 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:29.319 America is going to be the you know, bought capital 51 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:29.960 or whatever. 52 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.879 So I didn't read too much into it, but I 53 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.919 do think that if what Larry Ellison has planned is 54 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:37.439 the plan, that sounds like a nightmare. 55 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.520 Yeah. So so for people who don't know, they're basically 56 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.439 doing this project Stargate thing, this like AI like arms 57 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.759 race essentially, and Larry Ellison was talking about they're going 58 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.840 to do all these like basically custom mRNA vaccines for 59 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.759 people essentially, like if you have cancer or stuff, they 60 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.280 can essentially. Like, so, what do you think like the 61 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.960 biggest because I actually saw that and definitely some of 62 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.400 it spooked me where I was like, you know, I 63 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:08.919 some of this is crazy. But then there was a 64 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:10.319 part of me where I'm like, you know, if I'm 65 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.800 dying of cancer, I'm like, sure fire it up. You know, 66 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.599 like who cares at that point? But what are your thoughts, 67 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.719 like generally on that whole thing, Because it is really weird. 68 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:24.479 And the weird thing with the weird thing with Larry 69 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.639 Ellison is that he's fucking eighty years old and he 70 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:28.800 looks like he's fifty. 71 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:34.639 Yeah, Like, yeah, you're right about the possibilities for a 72 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.400 lot of that technology. I just wouldn't trust that dude 73 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.400 to get up inside me, you know what I mean, right, 74 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:42.159 I don't want that dude in me. He can stay 75 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.360 over there in his kun or whatever hyperbaric chamber or 76 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:51.479 whatever he lives in. But yeah, I think the evasiveness 77 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.840 of it is what's weird. And you know, I have 78 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.680 relatives who have like the chip to like, you know, 79 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.960 stop the tremors from Parkinson. So there are you know, 80 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.280 legit applications for a lot of this stuff, brain chips even, 81 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.919 and probably for mRNA you know, in nanotech going in 82 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.080 your body. I just wouldn't trust any of these dudes 83 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:10.400 to do. 84 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:14.719 It, right, That's fair. Yeah, I'm pretty conflicted because there's 85 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:16.000 like a lot of stuff where I'm like, yeah, I'm 86 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:17.959 not I definitely don't want to be like the test 87 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.000 case for any of this shit, that's for sure. But 88 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:22.639 then I guess I'm like on my deathbed or whatever. 89 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.120 But if you're on your deathbed, you might as well go. 90 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.160 Yeah, I'm like, I'm very much like I'll be a 91 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.079 fucking guinea pig for anything. If that's the case. I 92 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:31.040 actually want to talk to you about. So you used 93 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.480 to do the show Hollywood Decoded. You're really like it 94 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.199 seems like that's like a main thing you were into, 95 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.639 and you could the show covered like hidden meaning and 96 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:45.519 symbolism in movies. So I'm wondering your take on this, 97 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.839 just because you know, I'm you know, adjacent to that industry, 98 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.439 and it seems like, I mean, I'm not really like, 99 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.920 it seems like it barely even exists anymore for people 100 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.839 like me, you know what I mean. But I was 101 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.000 looking up the episodes, and it seems like movies don't 102 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.800 really do that so much anymore, like the hidden symbolism, 103 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:06.959 Like it seems like they have a message and then 104 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.240 they just beat you over the head with it. Yeah right. 105 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:14.800 You know, obviously some Christopher Nolan movies probably go against that, 106 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.160 but for the most part, like you know, the Amelia 107 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:22.079 Perez movie. You don't know that. So it got nominated 108 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:27.040 for thirteen Oscars this year. It's about it's a musical 109 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:33.199 it's a Mexican trans Yeah, it's like this trans musical 110 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.639 thing where and like the thing is is it's supposed 111 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.959 to take place in Mexico and she's like a Mexican 112 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.199 gangster and it's supposed to but apparently everybody in Mexico 113 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.279 fucking hates the movie. Like it's not even like people 114 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.560 in Mexico like it. They're like, you didn't even have 115 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.199 any Mexicans in the movie. Selena Gomez is in it, 116 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.519 They're like her Spanish is so bad that they can't 117 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.480 understand what she's saying. And like this this one movie 118 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.759 Chain was like having to do like a PR crisis 119 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:03.040 because as so many people were asking for refunds for 120 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.560 this movie, like it's a disaster. But it seems like 121 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.800 the kind of thing where this is kind of like, 122 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.199 you know, all the Kamala Harris voters, like last last 123 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:13.879 thing they can kind of do is they go, we're 124 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:19.079 nominating this chick or dude for Best Actress. And but 125 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.360 I guess my question was like, are there any movies 126 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.360 where there's still like bigger movies where they're still kind 127 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.319 of doing that or is that just like over. 128 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:28.120 Yeah, that's a good question. 129 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.800 I think it was a lot more prevalent in older 130 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.319 films because, as you said, Hollywood was bigger, there was 131 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:37.399 there were more all tour directors that that's doesn't really 132 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.040 exist anymore. The propaganda's so heavy and so thick that 133 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.360 it's not really hidden symbolism anymore. It's just straight out 134 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.759 like woke, you know. So that's that's part of it 135 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:49.839 for sure. I did think there was quite a bit 136 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.000 going on in Dune. I did quite a bit of 137 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.720 a breakdown Dune. You mentioned Nolan. I'm writing the third 138 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.720 Esoteric Hollywood book right now, and that one's has a 139 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.360 lot of analysis of Nolan films, and you know, he 140 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.000 relies on Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell and that kind 141 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.040 of stuff. So yes, but definitely a lot less than 142 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.959 there used to be. Trying to think of any other 143 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.279 maybe twice that that was pretty obstineish, but it was 144 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:16.240 also woke. 145 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.519 Right, And do you have like any kind of theory 146 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:20.120 as to why like it was? It just kind of 147 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.879 you know, the pendulum kind of we're going to do 148 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:24.480 this for a while and now we're just going to 149 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.040 just cram the ship down your throat. 150 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.800 Probably a mix of things, like not wanting to take 151 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:35.759 any risks, so just relying heavily on reboots and sequels 152 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:39.720 and prequels. It's probably just from a monetary perspective, a 153 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.399 lot less risky than allowing up and coming directors to 154 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.079 you know, bring new fresh creativity. I remember David Lynch 155 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.000 slaying something like, you know, he was surprised Season three 156 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.480 of Twin Peaks got made because there will never be 157 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.720 in the Hollywood system like the self made sort of 158 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.920 you know, independent cre native director getting final cut or whatever. 159 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.120 So I think that's just gone. The studio system is 160 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:06.000 kind of dying away. 161 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.120 We've done a lot of interviews with our buddy Jamie Kennedy, 162 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:14.360 the guy from Screams wanted Baby. 163 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.959 Yeah, Baby b Rad And you know, Jamie is pretty 164 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:18.680 candid about. 165 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.879 He was dead was dead. 166 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:25.920 Rah, And that's like half the podcast is. 167 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.399 So I mean, you're you're adjacent to it, you. 168 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.720 I mean, it does feel like that. It really does 169 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.919 feel I mean even Tarantino gave asking him about his 170 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.600 last movie and he hasn't even put it into production 171 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.320 or anything. He's just like Hollywood literally died in twenty nineteen. 172 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.879 Like it's he's like movies are dead, like completely. But 173 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.039 it's like it's so dark to even think that they're 174 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.919 just like, well, we just fucking switched on TikTok and 175 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.559 just we just killed movies Like that doesn't seem like. 176 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:57.440 A great trade off that is apocalyptic, man. 177 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:01.320 I mean I miss a lot of what we had, yeah, 178 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:02.840 for sure, because I'm a movie buff. 179 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:04.639 But yeah, yeah, And there's like I don't know the 180 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.879 amount of movies that come out that are even good anymore. 181 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.879 It's just I don't know, Like I used to regularly 182 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:14.519 go to theaters and some movies, and now maybe once 183 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:15.279 a year. 184 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.279 And my wife and I are like, every few months 185 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.279 we might find a movie that we want to see 186 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:21.360 in the theater, but it's rare. 187 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.919 I think the last movie we liked was Doune. 188 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:29.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, do too. You covered James Cameron a 189 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.600 few of his movies. Do you have you done Terminator 190 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:32.919 at all? 191 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:35.679 Yes? We did Terminator. 192 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.480 I remember putting quite a bit into that episode, and 193 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.120 then in my book we covered the whole I covered 194 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.200 most of the Terminator series and kind of looked at 195 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.759 us kind of an outline of transhumanism. I read a 196 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.960 History of DARPA by Annie Jacobson, and I was. I 197 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:55.799 remember in the last chapter she talks about Kathleen Kennedy 198 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.679 and James Cameron and other people actually going to DARPA 199 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.159 and consulting with the Pentagon and all these people on 200 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:05.440 like they're like, hey, James Cameron, what do you. 201 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:06.879 Have as an idea for us? 202 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.480 And then they're like telling James Cameron, you know, and 203 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.960 Kavin Kennedy and these people, Oh, here's our ideas for 204 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.639 the future, you know, transhumanist order or whatever. So there's 205 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.559 actually a symbiotic relationship going on. And Terminator is actually 206 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.639 a great example with Skynett and AI and all that. 207 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:26.039 Well China literally like their main thing or whatever that 208 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:29.279 they like track people and it's called Skynet, like they 209 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.320 actually called it Skynet in trying to really yeah, and 210 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:35.279 like it's like like the Terminator, like because I'm starting 211 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.159 to actually get a little freaked out by the AI stuff, 212 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.279 even though like I make all these AI videos like 213 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.279 comedy videos and stuff, but not trying to be like 214 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:46.120 a crazy doomer, but I am starting to, like, you know, 215 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.879 the more AI stuff, I'm like, we're so fucked. And 216 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.279 it seems like Terminator is almost a bit of like 217 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:53.720 a manual. 218 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:58.679 Like you know, yes, actually I remember reading that. When 219 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:04.200 they made the first one, Reagan was at Bohemian Grove 220 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.679 and they had a conversation about the creation of the 221 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:13.240 Star Wars Defense Initiative SDI, and sky Net was burned 222 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.519 out of the fictional idea was burned out of the 223 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:21.039 SDI initiative, which was originally to create like a globally 224 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:26.159 linked AI sky Net satellite situation. So what's in the 225 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.240 movie is literally based on Bohemian Groves discussion about SDI. 226 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.879 Really, yeah, that's crazy. Was there any other stuff in 227 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:35.919 the movie that was like kind of taken from real 228 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:36.639 life in that sense? 229 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.879 So I remember in Annie Jakinson's DARPA book, she says 230 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.120 that when they were talking to the DARPA people, they 231 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.919 were talking about, like again going back to that mRNA 232 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:52.759 invasive technology stuff, like the possibility of not just applainable chips, 233 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.519 but like the next generation of that being nanotech and 234 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.480 you know, nanoblood, that. 235 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:00.279 Kind of stuff. 236 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.039 I think that's what they were talking about, and that 237 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.440 was actually, believe or not, that actually comes out of 238 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:09.159 m k Eltra. So when MK Ultra went underground, after 239 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:14.919 they had the conventional or Congressional Investigations. They rebranded it 240 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:19.080 as mkse Search and MK Delta under biowarfare, and it 241 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:26.759 became Biometrics and Genetic Experimentation, so literally like Skynet, transhumanism Terminator, 242 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:29.679 all of that, Like it comes out of like the 243 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:31.679 fifties CIA MK Ultra stuff. 244 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.440 Do you think because I was talking I can't remember 245 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.240 what guess I was talking about this on, but we 246 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:39.919 were talking about MK Ultra and I was wondering, like, 247 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.399 like what is the modern kind of like vert, Like 248 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:47.799 is there a like a current version that they're doing. 249 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.519 I feel like it would be through screens like it 250 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.360 wouldn't It wouldn't be drugs, like it would be like 251 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.639 through TikTok or something. Yes, something like that. 252 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.799 But well, it's just all the like nanotech. It's all 253 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:00.600 the like super advanced tech. 254 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:06.279 I don't know if AI probably connects to that, but yeah, 255 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.120 you had a lot of these like super math nerds 256 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.120 like John von neuimand and these different characters that were 257 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:11.320 in it. 258 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:12.759 It's called the Jason Society. 259 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.279 That's pretty wild if you look that one up, because 260 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.720 it's like a bunch of super elite scientists and mathematicians 261 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.519 that we're working to create a lot of what we 262 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.399 have now, and they were all kind of working with 263 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:27.240 Rand Corporation, Pentagon, So I mean there is legit basis 264 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:31.120 to be concerned about the technocratic stuff for sure. 265 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:36.279 Yeah, is this something like you're specifically worried about because 266 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:37.639 it seems like this thing where it's like there's like 267 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:39.399 I don't know what you can do about it at 268 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:41.120 this point, Like, you know, there's one thing if they're 269 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.600 testing LSD on people and they can just stop doing that, 270 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.279 But you're like, what are we even meant to do now? 271 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.360 I mean a lot of I'm kind of a skeptic 272 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.120 about some of the stuff, which sounds kind of weird 273 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.919 because I'm always trying to read the books. 274 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.559 One of the things we do on my channels we do 275 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:55.320 the writings of. 276 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.679 The Elite, where we read through their books and then 277 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.639 I kind of lecture through those so it doesn't come 278 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.240 out at conspiracy theory. It's just me kind of lecturing 279 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:06.919 from what they wrote. And they're pretty candid a lot 280 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:10.440 of times about what they have planned. But when I 281 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.759 see a lot of science stuff, a lot of claims 282 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.039 of like that other day they were talking about, oh 283 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.360 this quantum chip that Google has, it's. 284 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.960 Pulling energy from the multiverse and other dimensions. To me, 285 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:21.559 that's bullshit. 286 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:24.279 I don't believe that there's other dimensions that a commute 287 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.320 computer chip is pulling energy from. 288 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.159 So I treat a lot of those kinds of like 289 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.919 super duper fear claims with a lot of skepticism. 290 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.759 But I guess there's areas to be concerned, Like if 291 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.360 they were to have passed like the tracking and tracing 292 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.279 stuff that they wanted during the coof of the last 293 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.679 few years, I would have been pretty worried about that. 294 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.720 That could have been a dangerous scenario. But it's a 295 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.120 good sign that Trump banned cbdc's, like that's one of 296 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.399 the key things they wanted in in that agenda. So no, 297 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:56.000 I think there's actually a lot of things moving in 298 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.120 the right direction rather than like a blackbuilt direction. 299 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.840 Yeah, they must have been hating him. I saw his 300 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.000 speech at Davos, and that seems to be one of 301 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.960 their main things, is kind of getting the Central bank 302 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.720 digital currency. Yeah, do you think he's gonna be able 303 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.159 to fight them like the entire time like that he's 304 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.039 in office, because he seems like a lot of stuff 305 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:15.639 that they want to push through that he's. 306 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:18.360 It's a great question. 307 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.440 I mean, like I saw him saying today that they 308 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.759 were like, well, he was saying something. 309 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.759 Like, are you're only allowed to run twsh? 310 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.559 Can you run to Wash? I don't know, Probably you 311 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.080 could only run twish. Maybe I'll go again, I don't know. 312 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.759 So maybe he's gonna run like FDR did, like ten times, 313 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.720 row whatever many times. I mean maybe, which I guess 314 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:38.399 that would be good. 315 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:38.919 I mean, I have. 316 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.320 Criticism Trump, but I think overall, there's things moving in 317 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:44.360 a positive direction. So if we get rid of the 318 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.200 income taxt, we get rid of a lot of these 319 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.879 weird you know, he moved out of the Green agenda, 320 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.720 which is a big part of the global elite stuff. 321 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.080 Things are going in the right direction. So but I mean, yeah, 322 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.039 it's a good question. After four years, what happens. 323 00:15:58.039 --> 00:15:58.519 I don't know. 324 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.480 Yeah, I mean, that'll make people's fucking headspin if he 325 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.759 somehow manages to get another term. I mean, it'll be 326 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.759 it'll be obnoxious to hear all the people with the 327 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.360 dictator stuff. They go, oh, that's just what dictators do. 328 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:12.519 Well. 329 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.000 I mean, yeah, you could argue FDR was kind of 330 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.759 a dictator he ran multiple times. 331 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:18.399 I guess what was his deal. It was just it 332 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.720 was a wartime thing. That was his reasoning for it. 333 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:23.879 Well that in like he was going to solve the depression. 334 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:26.799 And I mean he was an outright like Fabian socialist, 335 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:29.120 so he was pushing a lot of hardcore socialist stuff. 336 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.159 What is the Fabian thing? I heard you talk about 337 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:32.559 that I'm not familiar with us. 338 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.720 This was a movement in the eighteen eighties and nineties 339 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:39.960 in England amongst some of the upper crust. And it 340 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.600 wasn't just kind of weird eccentric intellectuals. There was also 341 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:47.600 some pretty powerful people in the circles of Royal society 342 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:52.679 and people like that, the Milner Rothschild Roads circles, particularly 343 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.240 Lord Milner, who was convinced of this idea from people 344 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.360 like John Ruskin that the British Empire could be revamped 345 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:04.359 into a kind of a a global socialist federation technocracy 346 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.960 actually was reading right now. One of their dudes is 347 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.440 Toynbee and in this book he's like, yeah, we got 348 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.039 to take back America and turn it back. 349 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:14.160 We got to turn it into some kind of socialist thing. 350 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.519 The eighteen hundreds, Yeah. 351 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.000 Well, the Fabians begin like the eighteen eighties nineties as 352 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:25.240 this philosophy that it's called reform Marxism, which is Marx's 353 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:30.079 you know, like uprising proletariat thing didn't work, and they 354 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.279 had the idea that instead of trying to get the 355 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:36.119 workers who don't care about all this abstract Marxist nonsense 356 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.319 and neologisms and you know, like high tier Bolshevik philosophy, 357 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.200 they only care about the like you know, lunch break 358 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:46.240 and getting a beer. Right, So the idea was, instead 359 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:49.400 of focusing on the proletariat rising up, let's join with 360 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.920 big capital. And so they call it reform Marxism, and 361 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.920 it later became Fabian because the idea was from the 362 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.880 name of the Roman general who believe than like slow 363 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:04.680 approach to battle. Their idea was instead of like overnight 364 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.240 Marxist revolution, it's unrealistic. 365 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:09.119 We need like a slow. 366 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.880 Gradual move to bring in the strategy long term. And 367 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.680 so it aligned very well a few decades later in 368 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.759 the nineteen twenties and thirties with technocracy. But yet it 369 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.480 kind of originates out of London and it's really just 370 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.400 reformed Marxism aligned with monopoly capital. 371 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:27.799 It kind of sounds like a little bit like China. 372 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.359 Yeah, actually you could make analogies there, because it's they're 373 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:37.880 not necessarily against a market economy for sure. The Labor 374 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.720 Party has for a long time been openly Fabian. They 375 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.920 don't call themselves Fabian socials, they call themselves labor. But 376 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:47.880 the Labor Party is started by a bunch of Fagan socialists. IMF, 377 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.559 World Bank, Aspen Institute Bank for National Settlements, all of 378 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:57.400 these entities are actually like literally Fabian socialist economic entities. 379 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:59.799 John Tercains was a famous Famian socialist. 380 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.480 Interesting do you think any chance that Trump gets rid 381 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.240 of the income tax? Gets what gets rid of the 382 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:06.839 income tax? 383 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.519 Oh? Man, I'm hoping. 384 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.119 So yeah, I'm like, can you get on this because 385 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.559 the taxes are coming, dude, I got pretty hefty texes, 386 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:18.759 so please get on this. 387 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:20.359 Yeah. Uh, nice timing. 388 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.240 I mean he just talked about it again today, So 389 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:27.400 what do you think? 390 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.240 Yeah? Outam it? I mean I can't tell how much 391 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.359 with him right now is like just trying to muddy 392 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.440 the waters a bit and just kind of just kind 393 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:37.279 of send everybody on like a wild goose chase, being 394 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:39.640 like here's you know, fifty fucking things I want to do, 395 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.759 and then it's almost like a distraction trying to do 396 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:43.920 something else. But I mean a lot of people were 397 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.759 saying that about all the tariff stuff, and then I 398 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.039 was talking about at the top of the show, like 399 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.920 I basically read a paper from his like chief economic 400 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:57.400 advisor from literally last year about exactly what they plan 401 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.400