Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we are back. Thank you for waiting
patiently joining me right now. Jay Dyer, what's up? Man,
Hey dude, very excited, very excited to have you on.
You're I was saying in the break one of the
most requested guests that the show has ever had. I've
had many messages to have you on, so it's pretty exciting.
Your author, comedian, host of The Alex Jones Show, writer
for Sam Hyde, Doug a lot of other stuff too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's been a crazy past few years.
Speaker 3: Things have kind of blown up and snowballed, and a
lot of different things going on. Glad to be here
with you. I was watching some of your stand up.
I was enjoying it.
Speaker 1: Oh, thanks man, appreciate it. Yeah, I was watching a
lot of your life from so actually hold on. Your
video jumped up here for some reason. Okay, cool, all right,
So you cover a lot of stuff. I'm not well
versed enough I know you. Did you do a lot
of these streams with like all the these religion debates.
Not not exactly my wheelhouse, but you know, you're a
big technology guy. It seems like you're big like crypto
stuff like that. So do you do you have any
Have you been following this deep sea thing and how
it relates to like the Stargate and all that stuff
like Project Stargate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll follow the Stargate stuff pretty heavily,
and I just saw the the Chinese stuff today. I
don't know what all the plans are behind all that,
but yeah, I'm in pretty much just a bitcoin dude,
So I don't really get into even stocks very much.
I mean I bought some here and there, but I'm
pretty much all in on bitcoin. So you know, to me,
it didn't really affect a whole lot today.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the bitcoin went down a few
percent today.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was I didn't even I didn't even
mean in relation to specifically like stock prices or asset
prices or anything like that. But so, like the Project
Stargate thing, essentially they're putting together this giant like conglomerate
for like this giant AI thing. And then yeah, go ahead, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I was going to say that I
looked into some last fourth dollar of alex I covered that.
I kind of think that it's just like a pr
thing to try to get money and attention. It doesn't
even really exist yet, you know, Musk was criticizing it
as something that doesn't even really have the funding, and
so maybe Trump was trying to just kind of get
some pr and get attention to you know, America is
going to be the capital of crypto.
Speaker 2: America is going to be the you know, bought capital
or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I didn't read too much into it, but I
do think that if what Larry Ellison has planned is
the plan, that sounds like a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So so for people who don't know, they're basically
doing this project Stargate thing, this like AI like arms
race essentially, and Larry Ellison was talking about they're going
to do all these like basically custom mRNA vaccines for
people essentially, like if you have cancer or stuff, they
can essentially. Like, so, what do you think like the
biggest because I actually saw that and definitely some of
it spooked me where I was like, you know, I
some of this is crazy. But then there was a
part of me where I'm like, you know, if I'm
dying of cancer, I'm like, sure fire it up. You know,
like who cares at that point? But what are your thoughts,
like generally on that whole thing, Because it is really weird.
And the weird thing with the weird thing with Larry
Ellison is that he's fucking eighty years old and he
looks like he's fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, yeah, you're right about the possibilities for a
lot of that technology. I just wouldn't trust that dude
to get up inside me, you know what I mean, right,
I don't want that dude in me. He can stay
over there in his kun or whatever hyperbaric chamber or
whatever he lives in. But yeah, I think the evasiveness
of it is what's weird. And you know, I have
relatives who have like the chip to like, you know,
stop the tremors from Parkinson. So there are you know,
legit applications for a lot of this stuff, brain chips even,
and probably for mRNA you know, in nanotech going in
your body. I just wouldn't trust any of these dudes
to do.
Speaker 1: It, right, That's fair. Yeah, I'm pretty conflicted because there's
like a lot of stuff where I'm like, yeah, I'm
not I definitely don't want to be like the test
case for any of this shit, that's for sure. But
then I guess I'm like on my deathbed or whatever.
Speaker 2: But if you're on your deathbed, you might as well go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm very much like I'll be a
fucking guinea pig for anything. If that's the case. I
actually want to talk to you about. So you used
to do the show Hollywood Decoded. You're really like it
seems like that's like a main thing you were into,
and you could the show covered like hidden meaning and
symbolism in movies. So I'm wondering your take on this,
just because you know, I'm you know, adjacent to that industry,
and it seems like, I mean, I'm not really like,
it seems like it barely even exists anymore for people
like me, you know what I mean. But I was
looking up the episodes, and it seems like movies don't
really do that so much anymore, like the hidden symbolism,
Like it seems like they have a message and then
they just beat you over the head with it. Yeah right.
You know, obviously some Christopher Nolan movies probably go against that,
but for the most part, like you know, the Amelia
Perez movie. You don't know that. So it got nominated
for thirteen Oscars this year. It's about it's a musical
it's a Mexican trans Yeah, it's like this trans musical
thing where and like the thing is is it's supposed
to take place in Mexico and she's like a Mexican
gangster and it's supposed to but apparently everybody in Mexico
fucking hates the movie. Like it's not even like people
in Mexico like it. They're like, you didn't even have
any Mexicans in the movie. Selena Gomez is in it,
They're like her Spanish is so bad that they can't
understand what she's saying. And like this this one movie
Chain was like having to do like a PR crisis
because as so many people were asking for refunds for
this movie, like it's a disaster. But it seems like
the kind of thing where this is kind of like,
you know, all the Kamala Harris voters, like last last
thing they can kind of do is they go, we're
nominating this chick or dude for Best Actress. And but
I guess my question was like, are there any movies
where there's still like bigger movies where they're still kind
of doing that or is that just like over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot more prevalent in older
films because, as you said, Hollywood was bigger, there was
there were more all tour directors that that's doesn't really
exist anymore. The propaganda's so heavy and so thick that
it's not really hidden symbolism anymore. It's just straight out
like woke, you know. So that's that's part of it
for sure. I did think there was quite a bit
going on in Dune. I did quite a bit of
a breakdown Dune. You mentioned Nolan. I'm writing the third
Esoteric Hollywood book right now, and that one's has a
lot of analysis of Nolan films, and you know, he
relies on Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell and that kind
of stuff. So yes, but definitely a lot less than
there used to be. Trying to think of any other
maybe twice that that was pretty obstineish, but it was
also woke.
Speaker 1: Right, And do you have like any kind of theory
as to why like it was? It just kind of
you know, the pendulum kind of we're going to do
this for a while and now we're just going to
just cram the ship down your throat.
Speaker 3: Probably a mix of things, like not wanting to take
any risks, so just relying heavily on reboots and sequels
and prequels. It's probably just from a monetary perspective, a
lot less risky than allowing up and coming directors to
you know, bring new fresh creativity. I remember David Lynch
slaying something like, you know, he was surprised Season three
of Twin Peaks got made because there will never be
in the Hollywood system like the self made sort of
you know, independent cre native director getting final cut or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I think that's just gone. The studio system is
kind of dying away.
Speaker 3: We've done a lot of interviews with our buddy Jamie Kennedy,
the guy from Screams wanted Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baby b Rad And you know, Jamie is pretty
candid about.
Speaker 4: He was dead was dead.
Speaker 3: Rah, And that's like half the podcast is.
Speaker 2: So I mean, you're you're adjacent to it, you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it does feel like that. It really does
feel I mean even Tarantino gave asking him about his
last movie and he hasn't even put it into production
or anything. He's just like Hollywood literally died in twenty nineteen.
Like it's he's like movies are dead, like completely. But
it's like it's so dark to even think that they're
just like, well, we just fucking switched on TikTok and
just we just killed movies Like that doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2: A great trade off that is apocalyptic, man.
Speaker 3: I mean I miss a lot of what we had, yeah,
for sure, because I'm a movie buff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And there's like I don't know the
amount of movies that come out that are even good anymore.
It's just I don't know, Like I used to regularly
go to theaters and some movies, and now maybe once
a year.
Speaker 3: And my wife and I are like, every few months
we might find a movie that we want to see
in the theater, but it's rare.
Speaker 2: I think the last movie we liked was Doune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, do too. You covered James Cameron a
few of his movies. Do you have you done Terminator
at all?
Speaker 2: Yes? We did Terminator.
Speaker 3: I remember putting quite a bit into that episode, and
then in my book we covered the whole I covered
most of the Terminator series and kind of looked at
us kind of an outline of transhumanism. I read a
History of DARPA by Annie Jacobson, and I was. I
remember in the last chapter she talks about Kathleen Kennedy
and James Cameron and other people actually going to DARPA
and consulting with the Pentagon and all these people on
like they're like, hey, James Cameron, what do you.
Speaker 2: Have as an idea for us?
Speaker 3: And then they're like telling James Cameron, you know, and
Kavin Kennedy and these people, Oh, here's our ideas for
the future, you know, transhumanist order or whatever. So there's
actually a symbiotic relationship going on. And Terminator is actually
a great example with Skynett and AI and all that.
Speaker 1: Well China literally like their main thing or whatever that
they like track people and it's called Skynet, like they
actually called it Skynet in trying to really yeah, and
like it's like like the Terminator, like because I'm starting
to actually get a little freaked out by the AI stuff,
even though like I make all these AI videos like
comedy videos and stuff, but not trying to be like
a crazy doomer, but I am starting to, like, you know,
the more AI stuff, I'm like, we're so fucked. And
it seems like Terminator is almost a bit of like
a manual.
Speaker 3: Like you know, yes, actually I remember reading that. When
they made the first one, Reagan was at Bohemian Grove
and they had a conversation about the creation of the
Star Wars Defense Initiative SDI, and sky Net was burned
out of the fictional idea was burned out of the
SDI initiative, which was originally to create like a globally
linked AI sky Net satellite situation. So what's in the
movie is literally based on Bohemian Groves discussion about SDI.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, that's crazy. Was there any other stuff in
the movie that was like kind of taken from real
life in that sense?
Speaker 3: So I remember in Annie Jakinson's DARPA book, she says
that when they were talking to the DARPA people, they
were talking about, like again going back to that mRNA
invasive technology stuff, like the possibility of not just applainable chips,
but like the next generation of that being nanotech and
you know, nanoblood, that.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I think that's what they were talking about, and that
was actually, believe or not, that actually comes out of
m k Eltra. So when MK Ultra went underground, after
they had the conventional or Congressional Investigations. They rebranded it
as mkse Search and MK Delta under biowarfare, and it
became Biometrics and Genetic Experimentation, so literally like Skynet, transhumanism Terminator,
all of that, Like it comes out of like the
fifties CIA MK Ultra stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you think because I was talking I can't remember
what guess I was talking about this on, but we
were talking about MK Ultra and I was wondering, like,
like what is the modern kind of like vert, Like
is there a like a current version that they're doing.
I feel like it would be through screens like it
wouldn't It wouldn't be drugs, like it would be like
through TikTok or something. Yes, something like that.
Speaker 2: But well, it's just all the like nanotech. It's all
the like super advanced tech.
Speaker 3: I don't know if AI probably connects to that, but yeah,
you had a lot of these like super math nerds
like John von neuimand and these different characters that were
in it.
Speaker 2: It's called the Jason Society.
Speaker 3: That's pretty wild if you look that one up, because
it's like a bunch of super elite scientists and mathematicians
that we're working to create a lot of what we
have now, and they were all kind of working with
Rand Corporation, Pentagon, So I mean there is legit basis
to be concerned about the technocratic stuff for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this something like you're specifically worried about because
it seems like this thing where it's like there's like
I don't know what you can do about it at
this point, Like, you know, there's one thing if they're
testing LSD on people and they can just stop doing that,
But you're like, what are we even meant to do now?
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of I'm kind of a skeptic
about some of the stuff, which sounds kind of weird
because I'm always trying to read the books.
Speaker 2: One of the things we do on my channels we do
the writings of.
Speaker 3: The Elite, where we read through their books and then
I kind of lecture through those so it doesn't come
out at conspiracy theory. It's just me kind of lecturing
from what they wrote. And they're pretty candid a lot
of times about what they have planned. But when I
see a lot of science stuff, a lot of claims
of like that other day they were talking about, oh
this quantum chip that Google has, it's.
Speaker 2: Pulling energy from the multiverse and other dimensions. To me,
that's bullshit.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that there's other dimensions that a commute
computer chip is pulling energy from.
Speaker 2: So I treat a lot of those kinds of like
super duper fear claims with a lot of skepticism.
Speaker 3: But I guess there's areas to be concerned, Like if
they were to have passed like the tracking and tracing
stuff that they wanted during the coof of the last
few years, I would have been pretty worried about that.
That could have been a dangerous scenario. But it's a
good sign that Trump banned cbdc's, like that's one of
the key things they wanted in in that agenda. So no,
I think there's actually a lot of things moving in
the right direction rather than like a blackbuilt direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they must have been hating him. I saw his
speech at Davos, and that seems to be one of
their main things, is kind of getting the Central bank
digital currency. Yeah, do you think he's gonna be able
to fight them like the entire time like that he's
in office, because he seems like a lot of stuff
that they want to push through that he's.
Speaker 2: It's a great question.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I saw him saying today that they
were like, well, he was saying something.
Speaker 4: Like, are you're only allowed to run twsh?
Speaker 2: Can you run to Wash? I don't know, Probably you
could only run twish. Maybe I'll go again, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So maybe he's gonna run like FDR did, like ten times,
row whatever many times. I mean maybe, which I guess
that would be good.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have.
Speaker 3: Criticism Trump, but I think overall, there's things moving in
a positive direction. So if we get rid of the
income taxt, we get rid of a lot of these
weird you know, he moved out of the Green agenda,
which is a big part of the global elite stuff.
Things are going in the right direction. So but I mean, yeah,
it's a good question. After four years, what happens.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that'll make people's fucking headspin if he
somehow manages to get another term. I mean, it'll be
it'll be obnoxious to hear all the people with the
dictator stuff. They go, oh, that's just what dictators do.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you could argue FDR was kind of
a dictator he ran multiple times.
Speaker 1: I guess what was his deal. It was just it
was a wartime thing. That was his reasoning for it.
Speaker 3: Well that in like he was going to solve the depression.
And I mean he was an outright like Fabian socialist,
so he was pushing a lot of hardcore socialist stuff.
Speaker 1: What is the Fabian thing? I heard you talk about
that I'm not familiar with us.
Speaker 3: This was a movement in the eighteen eighties and nineties
in England amongst some of the upper crust. And it
wasn't just kind of weird eccentric intellectuals. There was also
some pretty powerful people in the circles of Royal society
and people like that, the Milner Rothschild Roads circles, particularly
Lord Milner, who was convinced of this idea from people
like John Ruskin that the British Empire could be revamped
into a kind of a a global socialist federation technocracy
actually was reading right now. One of their dudes is
Toynbee and in this book he's like, yeah, we got
to take back America and turn it back.
Speaker 2: We got to turn it into some kind of socialist thing.
Speaker 1: The eighteen hundreds, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the Fabians begin like the eighteen eighties nineties as
this philosophy that it's called reform Marxism, which is Marx's
you know, like uprising proletariat thing didn't work, and they
had the idea that instead of trying to get the
workers who don't care about all this abstract Marxist nonsense
and neologisms and you know, like high tier Bolshevik philosophy,
they only care about the like you know, lunch break
and getting a beer. Right, So the idea was, instead
of focusing on the proletariat rising up, let's join with
big capital. And so they call it reform Marxism, and
it later became Fabian because the idea was from the
name of the Roman general who believe than like slow
approach to battle. Their idea was instead of like overnight
Marxist revolution, it's unrealistic.
Speaker 2: We need like a slow.
Speaker 3: Gradual move to bring in the strategy long term. And
so it aligned very well a few decades later in
the nineteen twenties and thirties with technocracy. But yet it
kind of originates out of London and it's really just
reformed Marxism aligned with monopoly capital.
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like a little bit like China.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually you could make analogies there, because it's they're
not necessarily against a market economy for sure. The Labor
Party has for a long time been openly Fabian. They
don't call themselves Fabian socials, they call themselves labor. But
the Labor Party is started by a bunch of Fagan socialists. IMF,
World Bank, Aspen Institute Bank for National Settlements, all of
these entities are actually like literally Fabian socialist economic entities.
Speaker 2: John Tercains was a famous Famian socialist.
Speaker 1: Interesting do you think any chance that Trump gets rid
of the income tax? Gets what gets rid of the
income tax?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I'm hoping.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm like, can you get on this because
the taxes are coming, dude, I got pretty hefty texes,
so please get on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, nice timing.
Speaker 2: I mean he just talked about it again today, So
what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Outam it? I mean I can't tell how much
with him right now is like just trying to muddy
the waters a bit and just kind of just kind
of send everybody on like a wild goose chase, being
like here's you know, fifty fucking things I want to do,
and then it's almost like a distraction trying to do
something else. But I mean a lot of people were
saying that about all the tariff stuff, and then I
was talking about at the top of the show, like
I basically read a paper from his like chief economic
advisor from literally last year about exactly what they plan
on doing. Like it's like to a t exactly all
the tariff stuff. It's called I have the name of
it here, it's I can't find it, but it's, uh oh,
a user's guide to restructure it Restructuring the Global Trading
System by this guy Stefan Muir, and check it out.
It's like it's only like forty pages, but it's literally
because everybody keeps thinking he's like really just firing from
the hip, like he just says shit and you're like no,
They're like they're following this like really specific plan of
tariffing like every nation on Earth essentially to completely reorder
the entire like global trading system.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how money was made prior to the
Federal Reserve being set up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's try that. Yeah, I mean's instead of.
Speaker 3: Like taxing and destroying the working class within the country,
who you know, are paying all of this money to
people who can actually just make money out of thin air. Uh, yeah,
why don't we try something different?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And I mean he's been pretty you're a
bit crypto guy, he's been like, pready pro I'm sure
you're pumped about that. How pro crypto he has been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wish that the executive order had been
a little more specific about bitcoin and not just quote crypto.
I mean, it's still good news, is still bullish, but
you know, everybody's waiting on this strategic reserve because if
he does do that, if the Cynthia Loomis Bill passes,
that will literally, if you know, the plan is to
buy one million bigcoin over five years, that will literally
take the price of bigcoin two a million dollars basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wouldn't they be better off I don't know
how actually like the how it would work, like it,
But wouldn't they be better off not announcing it and
buying the crypto like the bitcoin and then announcing it
versus Because won't everybody kind of like front run it
and just like push the price up? I guess, like
to the United States government, like what's a couple more
fucking billion dollars.
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, we're in uncharted territory and nobody knows.
That's why everybody's kind of debating and trying to figure out, like, well,
all the other kind and try to rush in, and
the problem will then be a supply shock, which a
lot of hardcore bitcoiners have been predicting, the supply shock,
which means the price will drive, will go you know, faster, higher, quicker. Yeah,
so it's I don't know, it's crazy, but I think
if it does get passed, and I think the betting
sites are thinking now seventy percent chance it will pass,
which is a pretty good indicator. I mean, yeah, let's
and then have no tax on the crypto, then I'm good, dude.
Speaker 1: You think he's got a pardon Roger Vere.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's I think that that one's a little
different than the Ross Albert case. I mean, I don't
have any personal dislike for Roger Vere. I don't agree
with the philosophy of bitcoin cash.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. That's a good question. I know
there's a lot of people pushing for it, especially like
in Alex's circles like I think K Tucker is pushing
for it, Robert Barnes is pushing for it, but I
don't know. It's a really good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the fun lines are open one triple
eight nine nine. If you have any questions for Jay,
we got to call it right here. Let's uh get
to them one moment please. We got Chris on the line. Chris,
are you there?
Speaker 5: Yes? There?
Speaker 1: What's up man? How's it going?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 7: Danny big fan? I first of all, I have a
question or more of a thing to talk about. I've
been meaning to talk for callin for a few weeks now.
There was this a European guy that called or that
was a guest on the show a few weeks ago,
and he was like talking about like American politics and
like the European minds perspective on it.
Speaker 1: Okay, he was a guest, Yeah, a European guest.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he was like a guest or europe had
like a funny accent, you know, and he was just
talking shit about Alborealis. Yeah, yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 8: And you know, like.
Speaker 7: I a lot of times, a lot of foreigners like
to say, like, you know, pick on us and say
we have this two party system you know, and this
and that and YadA yah. I hear it all the time.
But here's the thing, though, there's only some things are
black and white, you know. And in America it's a
yes or no, and in Europe it's like a yes, no,
maybe what if kind of you know why not? You know,
so like, but when it comes down to it, like
we saw in Germany or was it France when Marie
Lepenn was like the right wing party was gonna was
pretty much on a trajectory to win until all of
these supposed parties kind of just came together to make
a coalition to beat the you know.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, they can make tons of deals and
stuff to like, yeah, that's very common in those systems.
Similar with Canada.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's like you guys, like you brag so
much about having so many different parties and this and that,
but when it comes down to it, like you guys
all believe the same thing, you know, So it's just
different shades of democrat basically kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody gives a shit about Europe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody does. But I just you know, take take
offense when I hear them talking.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing disturbs your American sensibilities?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does, it does. I don't like it. And
another thing, And I was looking back to old episodes
of the Boys cast and you guys that shit doesn't
get old. And I jumped into something from like two
years ago, and you guys were like reminding me of
things that I completely forgot about. And you guys are
so fucking funny. You guys are talking about the star Seeds.
Oh yeah, the star Seeds.
Speaker 1: There's no shortage of men.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know how you guys were talking about. What
is it this guy who was like jacking off?
Speaker 1: Like the Chris Marley Show from SNL. You remember the
Chris Marley Show. He has the Beatles on, he goes.
Remember when you were in the Beatles? That was awesome.
Do you have a question for the guests?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 7: I was waiting. I was waiting online to get through that.
I didn't really get that. I wanted to interact with y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well cool man, I appreciate you. Yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 7: One question. Have you heard about the last goon aside?
Speaker 6: I have?
Speaker 1: I mean, that is such a stupid internet thing. You
know what we're talking about.
Speaker 9: Jay.
Speaker 1: You know the guy who like whipped his dick out
at that like bikini coffee shop like two weeks ago,
and then he basically the chick like videotaped him and
put it on TikTok and it went super viral. He
is like, it's like weird, like bikini coffee shop where
you like pull up, it's like drive here and the
girls are in bikinis. And anyways, he had his dick
out and then he killed himself in a parking lot
like twenty minutes later, and then he's become this like
weird online like folk hero. I guess I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, man. Yeah, heroes for the craziest things now.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean if George Floyd did it, you
can do it for whipping your day. All right, thanks dude,
all right, we can take another caller here, one moment please.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: We got the conspiracy and followers are open. Everybody one
trouple eight nine four conspiracy extremist. What's that?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 6: Hey, what's up? How's it going?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 1: Very good?
Speaker 6: Uh so I did so earlier. I was gonna have
had a story for you, Danny, but I'm not going
to waste that when I have the Jay Dyer on
task him a question, and this is a this is
actually a question that I've been trying. I looked into
briefly on my own, but I think he's a good
person to answer this. Jay. So you're an Orthodox Christian?
Am I rape? So are you? Can you articulate to
me like and I'm I'm not, I'm not Orthodoxical, I'm
I'm a Christian, I guess as far as I see myself,
But can you describe me the difference between the way
you see it between Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity, Like what
the differences are why you I guess, I don't want
to say identify, but why you believe Orthodox Ricianity is
a correct view opposed to Catholicism. I'm sure you've talked
about this before. I just I haven't come upon it
in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I've covered it on my channel quite a bit,
so you can find a lot of podcasts covering that.
But in brief, you know, two main issues that are
the big ones would be the Pope. We don't believe
that the Pope has universal infallible jurisdiction, that he can
be an autocrat. That's not something that we believe. We
believe all the bishops are equal, so it's a decentralized
kind of church government. And then there's other There's many
other things, but the bigger ones would be stuff like.
Speaker 2: Purgatory.
Speaker 3: We don't believe in that, or that's called the Philly
Oquay doctrine, which is a different thing. So there's a
lot of other addendum things that go along with it,
but those are the big ones that we don't agree.
And we think that the first thousand years of Christiunity,
before the split between East and West, that it's the
Orthodox model and not the Roman Catholic sort of second
millennium PayPal model.
Speaker 6: Okay, Now do you subscribe to like the trinity being
as like Jesus is God at the same time.
Speaker 2: Well, he's the Son of God.
Speaker 3: So in the Trinity, there's the Father, there's the Son,
there's only spirit, but they all have the same divine nature.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 9: Cool.
Speaker 6: And then so what brought you I guess this isn't
really on top of you guys are talking about other ship,
but Jadeyer has a legacy, So what brought you to
and this will be my last question. What was like
the biggest thing about Orthodox Christianity that brought you to that?
Because I am you know, I'm doing my own journey spiritually,
so I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a lot of podcasts on that if
you want to go check out kind of the longer explanations,
but just a lot of reading the Bible and church
history and the Church fathers. Eventually, it's kind of what
landed me there.
Speaker 6: All right, fair enough, Well, thanks man, I appreciate it.
Thanks for taking my question.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I'm been doing this joke actually about indulgences.
I was reading. I was reading some book and then uh,
like the the idea that you could just buy away,
you buy coupons for your sins essentially, is what they were.
And I just in my joke is like that seems
like such a Jewish thing, Like I can't believe the
Jews didn't invent that.
Speaker 3: It's funny because when we critique the Roman Cavilch for
that kind of stuff, we're like, oh, that's so tumbu.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, like I think I tweeted that at
one point, like I tweeted, I'm like I can't believe
Jews didn't invent indulgences, and then there's like twenty replies
being like, uh, they did.
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, I was gonna say, like the Roman colgro
over there, like we need to do more of these Jews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like literally they're like, I don't know,
this seems like, yeah, a coupon for your sins. You say,
all right, that's like another call here we got Will.
There's a question for Jay. Will. Are you there? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hello, how's it going, Danny?
Speaker 9: How's it going?
Speaker 8: Jay?
Speaker 5: Nice to talk to you all. I was just curious
to know if you think that any of these cult
kind of goofy Hollywood stuff is going to come to
light when all of the Epstein and Diddy tapes get released.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been covering that for a long time. I
went pretty deep down in those rabbit holes. Whitney Webb's
books are good, especially Part two on Epstein's really good,
so I would expect there's I mean, I think there's
two different things going on. Like I think Diddy was
like a mini kind of a lit of mini Epstein,
like a black stain.
Speaker 2: Like a ghetto version of But to be serious, I mean, yeah,
I don't. I wouldn't doubt it. I don't know that Diddy.
Speaker 3: Himself was involved in anything like a cultic or Krollian.
There was that weird statement though that Kat Williams made,
and he's tended to be pretty correct on.
Speaker 1: Was pretty much everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, and he's but he said something, it's
a ritual, Joe, it's a ritual. Okay, they go up
in your booty. That's a ritual. Now that's actually Krolean
to do, like the butt thing.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be surprised that there wasn't a crole
in influence on the Diddy stuff, but it will probably
be like all the Epstein stuff. But I don't think
there's anything occulting with Epstein that I'm aware of but doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have to be.
Speaker 1: And are you saying that like Diddy, similar to Epstein,
had like foreign government handlers or government hands.
Speaker 2: I think that's likely.
Speaker 3: I don't know about foreign but some people theorize that
when he got the FBI visit in like two thousand
and two or three, like he might have been.
Speaker 1: Used since then, like he just made a deal basically. Yeah,
and it's been interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all theory, but yeah, yeah, of course,
of course allegedly.
Speaker 1: Anything else there caller, No, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: You guys have a great night.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Do you think because obviously Trump last week
or in the past week, it feels like it's been
fucking months. But he obviously dropped like the JFK, RFK, MLK,
MLKA was getting down into some fuckings at Little Diddy
Action himself. Did you read the MLK stuff?
Speaker 3: I uh, I not yet, but I knew that a
long time ago. I read a guy that was critiquing
uh MLK a long time ago, and he was.
Speaker 1: A freaky sex shit man. They were like they were
like hiring prostitutes and making them do all this like
butt sex and all this crazy stuff and like crazy
rate like multi day like orgies and all this stuff.
But do you think I was just to bring my
point back? Obviously he didn't announce the Epstein thing. He
said basically, we're getting the JFK documents, RFK, MLK, nothing
on Epstein. Do you think do you think Trump like
releases Epstein or are there like way too many people
in government who are like implicated in that where it
just can't be done.
Speaker 3: I don't know's there's he's kind of such a such
a like shoots. I think he does shoot from the hip,
and it's all kind of like why. I'm not saying
there's no planning, but like it seems like a lot
of things.
Speaker 2: Like he throws curveballs.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. If it doesn't happen, I won't
be surprised. If it does, I won't be surprised. Yeah,
I saw Alex was calling for it, like right now,
Epstein right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we had Nick. I don't know if
you do. You know Nick Bryant. He was the guy
who he released Epstein's like black book. Oh the author,
the author, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sue. I've been on his podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was Frankly the Franklin Fair or whatever,
but he was. He was on the show and he
was talking all about that and just the amount of
people who would be implicated in it.
Speaker 2: Oh, he was saying it probably won't.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's just like I mean, he's the guy,
the main guy who wants it to come out. But
I think he's very much just like it's one like
you know, because JFK, maybe there's two people alive who
are fucking ninety five years old who were involved in that, like,
can't be that much more than that, whereas Epstein, You're like, yeah,
these are probably people in the highest reaches of governments
all over the world, right, Yeah, so I hope so yeah,
I mean it would be right. I think everybody would
love that. But I think it'll be interesting if he
releases all the ship and doesn't release that, and then
it would almost be kind of weird. It would be
telling in and of itself, where you're like, okay, well,
so that's just the one thing you're not releasing that
everybody wants. All right, let's take another caller here. This
is okay, this, this might be interesting. I make no
vouchers for this caller, so but but producer Mark left
a little interesting note on this caller, so let's see
second time.
Speaker 5: Hello, oh my, this is Moisha Goyman.
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Mosha.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 8: Actually sorry, I forgot what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: But literally I had a note and said, he goes
weird impression. But then he says he know was David
Lynch's son, which was what I was more interested about
for the call. But generally, when people call in with
an impression they think they can do it for longer
than they actually can, Like they kind of think they
can do a bit much longer than they have the
ability to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeh, it's funny. I've noticed that people who do impressions
and I try to.
Speaker 1: Do them, Yeah you do, you do some pretty good ones.
Speaker 3: I've noticed that you can't do it for like thirty minutes,
but people think that they can.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, if I just keep going, it's still funny.
It's not funny after like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, you have like two minutes tops, unless
you're doing like a character bit and you like wrote
a thing exactly, but just like off the top of
your head, like you go, yeah, I don't know, nobody
wants to hear fucking Woody Allen for more than sixty seconds.
You covered a lot of the David Lynch stuff actually
recently that I thought was pretty interesting. Imagined you were
pretty bummed about the fact that we're probably never getting
anything like that.
Speaker 3: Every Yeah, thank you by the way for the comment there.
Speaker 2: Like my Kat Williams and my Jamie Kennedy.
Speaker 1: And Cat Williams on point man.
Speaker 2: Those are actually just two of them. I gotta I
gotta like thirty more that I can do even better
than that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was a huge David Lynchin.
Speaker 2: I didn't like David Lynch in the nineties, didn't really
get it.
Speaker 3: And then as I read more, as I got older,
I felt like I and again, I understand his movies
are like not always intended to be understood.
Speaker 2: It's a dream, it's Buddhism, it's all the stuff it's.
Speaker 3: In due I know, but I got more I think
of a general sense of what he's after as I
got older, So went back and kind of redid all
of his stuff, maybe ten to fifteen years ago, pretty intensely.
And then I wrote, I don't know, maybe two chapters
in the first or second book on David Lynch.
Speaker 2: So he became kind of a big part of the books.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, I felt like I was kind of
wedded to that, you know what I mean in a
weird way, just because I put the books out. And
then we did an episode of the show on David Lynch.
I think what vindicated my take was when Mark Frost,
the co writer of all the Twin Peaks stuff, he
put out a book, Secret History of Twin Peaks, and
basically it was all about secret society, sexical Crowley, all
that stuff, and that's what I had in my earlier analysis.
So I felt vindicated. I felt like I cracked the
Lynch code to a degree with at least twin Peaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a lot of really deep esoteric stuff
in there. You've got portals, you've got you know, demons,
you've got aliens, you've got sex, magic, secret societies, all that.
Speaker 1: Do you can get any of that? Show would be allowed,
like if you pitched a movie right now, even if
you're some big guy, Like they seem like like what
was the last kind of movie that had any of
that stuff in it?
Speaker 3: It seems like there's been a few movies that kind
of tried to be like Lynch or Lyncheon, but they
were more independent art house films that I've seen.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything like like.
Speaker 1: Nothing big budget, Yeah, nothing theatrical elast. Yeah, that's just
kind of seems like it's over and they almost fel
I was like, they're like the jigs up a little
bit right now, maybe with the Epstein stuff, and they're like,
we can't really do that. It's kind of telling on
ourselves exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, lost Highway to the movie is. I can't
believe that was ever even in theaters. That's so insane
to think about, such an insult. It's a wild miss,
just totally nonlinear, crazy hellscape movie in movie theaters. Yeah,
I can't imagine what normanies were thinking the nineties when
Lost Highway.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember watching when I was like, I
think I was probably seventeen and.
Speaker 2: My brother sounds about I was, but.
Speaker 1: My brother got rented Mulhall and drive, yeah, and I
remember watching that. I remember got to the end of
that and I was like, I don't even know what
I just watched. Like it was one of those things
where I'm like, I don't I don't think that's a
movie for like a seventeen year old or maybe just
at the time, I was just like not not in
like the headspace to watch a movie like that, because
I remember I was like, I was like barely following it,
and then I watched it, watch it again. I go, Okay,
I get this a little more, but uh yeah, these
movies were like specifically, fucking a lot of them were pretty.
Speaker 2: True their dreamscapes. It's surrealism, it's the shamanic journey. You know,
that's kind of the key.
Speaker 3: For example, the twin Peaks is you know, firewalk with
me one shouts out between two worlds, which is a
shamanic type of phrase. So I think, you know, Lynch
at that time, at that phase, was interested in shamanic traditions.
He was interested in ti Betan Buddhism. Hence you get
agent del Cooper being so obsessed with Tibet and all
this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So Tulpa's come up in the show. That's a debent
Buddhism thing.
Speaker 3: So learning more about kind of compared to religion, I
think really helped kind of crack the code. And then
as you get towards later in an empire that's expressly
influenced by Hindu metaphysics and Hindu philosophy, so it's.
Speaker 1: Pretty well, Yeah, we covered on my other podcast with
right a long, we covered talpas all the time. But
they're all just like basically disassociated, yes, girls Like essentially
they're all just like these girls where you're like, I
think you're just have like a disassociative disorder, and they're
very much like we do not have disassociative disorders. And
they post in this reddit about like the literally, it'll
always be like this thing where was like some chick
will be like, yeah, I'm like a vegetarian, but like
one of my tulpa's like isn't like how do I
all these crazy questions? You like?
Speaker 3: And then another trend I noticed on TikTok and yeah,
it has to be like some kilter thing because have
you heard of the they ons.
Speaker 1: The the wolf people.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah they're like, oh, I have alternate personalities,
but one of the wolf yeah yeah, another one that's
a crab, like what it's like next level multiple personality.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we always joke with it because someone will
be like, so it's almost always women or like non
binary like dudes or whatever right now with the tulpa stuff.
And then but they'll always say that, like they're like
I have seven taulpas And we just always find it
so funny where because they're like, do you have any
like tulpa's where it's just like a dude in a
maga hat.
Speaker 2: Like never never, like but we kind of keep him
in the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like you never have that. It's just they
all just happen to share your exact beliefs about everything,
and you're just trying to figure out how to like
bang them a lot. That's a lot of it. I
don't know if like the original Tulpa's had, like because
obviously it's changed so much, probably since like the original
use of Tulpa's, but now it's all like how do
I fuck my tulpa? Like is it like do I
need consent? Is like if I make a move on
my tulpas? Or like yeah, you know, it's fucking crazy
for the David lynchling. Actually, I was wondering was he
ever like involved in any secret societies that people knew of?
Speaker 2: I mean, not exactly.
Speaker 3: You could call transittal meditation maybe adjacent to that, but
not explicitly that I'm aware of. I mean, transit meditation
is mahari shimai shiogi. It's you know, just meditate, go within,
and then try to create a reality within you and then.
Speaker 2: Bring that into this world. You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So any anytime David Lynch is talking about inspiration or whatever,
he will, he will kind of talk about that.
Speaker 4: And I went deep inside and I caught an idea.
And what you do is you bring that idea along
with you and a string of pearls of other ideas
will come so.
Speaker 2: But I mean he seems to have done that for
most of this stuff, like it's based on TM.
Speaker 1: All right, interesting, all right, let's uh, let's take another
call here. Actually, full lines are open. Everybody one, triple
eight nine six nine. We got Jared Jared.
Speaker 8: You there man, Yeah, I'm here, buddy, doing very good.
Speaker 1: You are on some Jared Fogel, do your best, Jared Fogel.
Speaker 2: There you get killed?
Speaker 9: He did?
Speaker 1: Did he get sucked up? Is he still alive?
Speaker 3: I don't know, couldn't tell you, Like he's when he
got fired and quit being the subway that like he
lost Wait, and it was like, wait a minute, he's
in prison.
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought I read something where he got
killed in prison. I know that the Michigan state dude
got sucked up in prison, but I don't think he
died either. Larry Nasser.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they took a stab at him or two, but
they didn't get him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's what's up? Jared?
Speaker 9: Just you know, you know, always fun. Thank you for
having me on, sir, good good times. So the idea is,
we got two stories or subjects we could we could discuss.
We got the Jewish Japanese demons.
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of such a thing, so you've
piqued my interest already.
Speaker 9: Okay. So there's the tangu The tangu is a is
a kami or or a god or or be considered
a demon. And it has a very interesting nose, okay.
And it happens to have the little box on its.
Speaker 5: On its head like.
Speaker 1: For the like for the praying.
Speaker 9: The whatever, the philacty, the philactery that they were, and
not not just that. He happens to carry the torah
no machi and torah prah no maki means scroll. He
carries the tous scroll, okay, Okay, So he's.
Speaker 2: Like, this is setting up for a joke? Is this
a joke?
Speaker 9: No? This is this is this is this isn't Japanese
folklore and history and and and one of the things
that this creature is associated with is you know, not
always good. And there's also another Japanese demon creature that
that that that has a bald spot that that that's
called it's called Kappa. But what what what what what
a Jews.
Speaker 2: Wear on there?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if you're making this up on the
spot thing to make up.
Speaker 9: No no, no, not making anything up.
Speaker 10: Not making anything up.
Speaker 9: What a Jews were?
Speaker 2: They were the kippa.
Speaker 9: Okay, so this is this you can look it up
right now.
Speaker 2: Just I'm trying to look at Tingo Japanese demon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well the tingu you can look up you know,
see that, but you can also look up the kappa
and it's it's it's it's a lizard like or turtle like.
And it's also associated with kidnapping children, raping women looking
at their skirts. You can flesh. You can see it
on Wikipedia. Bro, that's not like something I liked. That's
the capital. The capital was was was with the one
that I just said has the missing the missing little
little bald cap and its associated with the dish? What
what what? What's the dish? It's like a it's is
a kappa. It's the same thing. It's it's the.
Speaker 2: He's balding like.
Speaker 9: You could you could see it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a turtle kind of bird. It looks
like a bird. Yeah, you're kind of you're kind of
reaching right now. I'm looking at a photos.
Speaker 9: The tango is the bird one. The turtle with the
bald cap is the one that I'm speaking of. So
if we talked about the tangu, the tango is the
different one we talked about the kopa. The kepa is
the same as the kippa.
Speaker 1: What I see the Kappa, it looks like it looks
like he has like a friar's haircut, like a friar monkey.
Speaker 2: It could be like a little bald.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you could be wearing a y.
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, I don't see the square part. Anyways,
what are you getting? What are you getting?
Speaker 9: Just language, let's just get into language. Kappa Kippa very similar.
Speaker 1: That's a fallacy, dude. How is it I said a
reach a reach?
Speaker 9: How is it a reach?
Speaker 1: They sound the same. I sure I was expecting like
a grabbler type. Dude, this is.
Speaker 2: The basket.
Speaker 9: They don't say basketball. They see basketball.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh that's the one you're talking about. Yeah,
oh yeah, I see that. He's got the big nose
that looks like my grandfather.
Speaker 9: Well that's the that's you can also, okay, the hatta,
the hat the Klan have the Star of rem frame,
which is in the Star of David. There is no
Star of David, and it doesn't exist in the Bible.
It's it's all it's Saturn worship. It's chronos. Yeah, feminent
male invert.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is your question?
Speaker 9: There's no question of.
Speaker 2: A sermon.
Speaker 1: Question, that's a sermon.
Speaker 9: Yea of Jews in Japan considered demons, considered demons in Japan.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like you're making the linkage to the
jew part. And I don't see.
Speaker 9: No, no, no, The Japanese are saying that this isn't me.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 1: The Japanese are saying.
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, not anybody Kapa Jewish.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I google this, No, see, everything that
comes up as keep up. Now, everything that comes up
is keep a pp a. I know that's what I
and it all just comes up keep us all right.
Speaker 9: I beg your pardon one more time.
Speaker 1: No said, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Andre andre Yushensky, Kiev. This is another important one. This
is one of the blood level ones that I didn't
get to finish last time. It's important that we also
mentioned these these blood level incidences.
Speaker 1: All right, I can take another column.
Speaker 9: Order of a thirteen year old under nineteen eleven Ukraine, Russia.
Speaker 10: Okay, your pardon, all right, we'll pick it up next time,
Love you, Danny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, next time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean I don't think
any of us know what's going on right now.
Speaker 9: Uh well, I mean we could talk about it, buddy,
I can get into it.
Speaker 1: We're good, all right, Thanks man. Uh yeah, I don't
know what that was about. Probably let it, probably let
him go a few two minutes too long, but I
was he had my interest piqued for a moment there
for a moment. Let's take a call from Jacob here.
Thanks again for coming on and Jay. I appreciate it.
This fun show. Jacob, are you there?
Speaker 9: Yes, I am here.
Speaker 1: What's up? You're on with Jade? I are go ahead?
Speaker 9: Oh hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Guys?
Speaker 9: I want to ask Jay? I know he works for
Info Wars. There was a guy, he was a conspiracy
theorist back in the nineties. His name was William Cooper.
Has he ever heard of this guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm been familiar.
Speaker 9: Where do you think he went wrong? I kind of
looked into some of his stuff, and I guess he
kind of came to the conclusion that everything was like
an intergalactic like space situation. I just don't understand how
somebody can read so many classified documents and then just
like fall prey to the shiny object. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can you give some background on who this guy is
just for people who don't.
Speaker 3: Know, So basically, yeah, go back to the Boomer era
of conspiracy theory stuff gen X Boomer era of.
Speaker 2: Like eighties nineties conspiracy stuff. He was kind of the He.
Speaker 3: Was a popular radio guy, William Cooper, and he wrote
a book called Behold a Pale Horse. He did a
series called Mystery Babylon or something like that, and I
was kind of Alex Jones ish before our showes and
they kind of didn't like each other, had some squabbles.
But at one point he went really deep down this
kind of alien rabbit hole where he thought that there
was a you know, government deal with the aliens, and
Jesus was an alien that was a hologram.
Speaker 2: It's like he got really crazy. And then later on
he got really crazy.
Speaker 3: Supposedly he said something like, oh, I was misled, the
government gave me these fake documents, and I tuned out
when I heard, Like, I just I'm not into alien stuff.
I think it's really dumb, so I just usually too too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, when I when I heard the alien conclusion, it
kind of boggled my mind a little bit.
Speaker 2: Same here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that was my question. That was my question
for Jay if he actually heard of this guy and
he kind of.
Speaker 2: Came to No.
Speaker 9: No, he was killed by the government.
Speaker 1: Actually, he was killed by the government.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he died.
Speaker 9: I don't know it was. I think it was like
a like a a tax enforcement operation. They were trying
to arrest him and he wouldn't go. Like I guess
he went out swinging. I'm not exactly sure, but he was.
He was killed on his own property. From my understanding. Crazy,
But that was the question that was I was. I
was more so actually going to ask you a question,
Danny ahead. You were you were mentioning something about some
sort of like document you were reading about, like some
sort of like economic hit job we were going to
execute on the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I just reference it. It's called The
User's Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System, and it's
literally like the playbook that Trump's following right now.
Speaker 9: So when when you said that, it actually kind of
piqued my interest because I've noticed this trend with our
currency and like the rest of the world's currency, like
as time has progressed, like the dollar has become so strong,
and like that would seem to be like a positive
for a country to have a strong currency, but it
seems like.
Speaker 1: The rest of as.
Speaker 9: Our currencies it's bad. It's not just bad for that,
it seems like it's bad for the world as a whole,
because the stronger our dollar is, the more currency they
have to change in return to get our dollar, and
it makes them want to buck our currency even faster
as the reserve currency. Like that's why I think this
bricks thing that's happening is because these countries are all
getting charged out the ass for these dollars and the
price of those dollars keep going up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But Trump is basically saying like if you trade with
these bricks countries, like if you even try and do this,
he's like, I'll fuck you over, like it basically you
won't be able to do it. Like he's gonna like
this is such a crazy like needle the thread, because
he's essentially like, you have to use the dollar. We're
gonna weaken it. You're not gonna like it. We're gonna
tear off the shit out of you. But we really
want the dollar to go down because it would make
American like manufacturing. That's like it basically says, the main
reason why America lost its like manufacturing base is has
a lot to do with the fact that the dollar
is so strong and has it's just always been so strong,
and they can't because it's a reserve currency. Everybody holds
all their money in US dollars. It's like really difficult
to uh devalue, like really difficult on like nominal terms.
Speaker 10: Anyways, Well, I've also seen this thing with the Great
British Pound where the Great British Pound is at all
time low versus the dollar. Yeah, where it's at like
a dollar twenty for for you know, usc for one
Great British pound, when like when I was a kid,
it was like, you know, a dollar ninety for a
Great British pound. You know, now it's a dollar twenty.
It's like that's a pretty stark difference in amount.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean. Like the rest of the
Western world is almost like like hinging on us to
do something about this, and like if we don't, then
it's like we're all going to collapse together. Yeah, at
least that's what it seems like.
Speaker 3: Any I mean, I'm just when I hear this kind
of stuff, I'm just thinking, like the coins the answer
this is all humor, dude, when I was reading economics,
when I was when.
Speaker 1: I was reading this today, actually, I was thinking specifically
that I'm like, if they managed to make because all
cryptos denominated in US dollars, like at the end of
the day, like nobody cares how much one bitcoin is
in any other currency, Like it's just that's the standard price.
So you're like, if you devalue the US dollar, then
that just makes bitcoin shoot up essentially.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I won't I won't keep you guys.
Speaker 9: I imagine there's other there's other callers on the line,
and I don't want to keep you guys much longer.
But I I just when I heard you say that,
it kind of, you know, sparked my interest. I got
to look at that paper myself. But thank you guys
for talking. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Take care, guys.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another caller. We got a question
for Jay, and we know that Ben is drinking. Ben.
Are you there, Yes, sir, you are on with Jay
dire Go ahead, Yes, we can.
Speaker 5: Cool. How are you guys, doing tonight.
Speaker 1: Very well good.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well the reason I was called was, uh, I
got a family member and they're studying up in the
Northwest and part of the de i UH initiatives and
stuff like that actually wiped out their scholarship. And it's
like in environmental studies or something like that. They're getting
their doctorate.
Speaker 8: I don't have a high school, so something like that.
Speaker 1: But are they what is the what is their category
that they fit in? Like are they no? No, no, I'm
saying that your family member. Are they a member of
some sort of protected class?
Speaker 5: Uh? Indigenous?
Speaker 1: They're indigenous, okay, And really they're taking it from the
indigenous people.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: If they were Canada. We had someone call in on
my other show a while ago and basically was saying
they live in this like native reserve in like northern
Ontario and they just had some deal with the government
because they they were on their property was like some
mine and they made a deal some mining rights deal
like one hundred years ago that didn't track inflation, and
then the Canadian government was like, hey, we want to
basically just pay you all this money we owe you
inflation adjusted. He's like everybody on his reserve got like
a quarter of a million dollars just cash payment.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in Canada, like that's where I'm from. In Canada,
they just are like giving this ship away. They're like,
if you know, I don't even think they asked for it.
Speaker 2: I gotta find that. Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like in America they don't care as
much because this person. I mean, if you're losing DEI
scholarships because when.
Speaker 2: Domina identify as the Canadian citizens.
Speaker 1: You don't want that.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I believe they're I believe they're studying
It was something like environmental so like they've traveled all
over they they work with like the National Parks and
stuff like that, and they're doing a lot of different things.
But I don't understand, like what would that had to
do with DEI. Like I understand like diversity and shit
like that, but like they were doing environmental science and
it just seemed kind of weird to me.
Speaker 1: Is all, well, I mean they probably just got some
They were giving scholarships to people who are I don't
know DII qualifications, whatever the fuck that means. And then
I don't know, I didn't know They're just like this
is in the last week.
Speaker 5: Yet, like literally today. So she's going for a doctorate
and she's supposed to graduate in like June, and she
can't even write her paper, is what I heard, which
I don't stand.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have fucking I have no clue.
Speaker 3: So they took away the scholarship even though she's Indigenous
because of the i's everything.
Speaker 1: Like basically, yeah, they probably added all these d I
mean they're they're doing this stuff where there's like, you know,
no transgender people in the military and all that stuff.
It must fall fall under something like that. I mean,
to take it away in the middle of your thing.
It seems crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like she's got like a couple of months ago
and everything's done. I mean, she's been in school forever.
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, could she could she just like
take out a loan or something.
Speaker 3: Could you just do a little bit of a loan
for a little month one semester?
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody's gonna kick in something for her to finish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why she only take one semester? Sounds like a
real d I hire.
Speaker 5: No, Like she's like she's graduating. Oh, so I guess
that's like a semester to go or something. Like that.
Speaker 1: What I mean, that's that sucks. But yeah, I haven't
I haven't heard anything about that.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh all right man, anything else? All right, thanks dude, Okay,
thanks man. All right, phones are open if anybody. We're
gonna wrap this up, and uh shortly, Uh, I had
a question actually because you probably cover the stuff, you know,
you know, the Patriot Front, those dudes, well you know
of them, do you have any thoughts on them?
Speaker 2: My guests from intuitive glance and analysis would be fake
fed thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I'm wondering about because cash Mattel
has his uh his confirmation thing this week or whatever,
and he seems like the anti doing any of that ship,
like you know, having FBI agents literally pop out of
U hauls and khaki pants and like pretend to.
Speaker 3: Be fucking uh preppy, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like prepperty like white nationalists or whatever the hell that is.
But so because I've actually always thought, because I like,
I've seen their like telegram group and unless you know
they're they're really like putting this thing on like they
actually do seem like they are this like legitimate thing somewhat,
but everybody like it always makes me laugh so much
because they're trying to be like, no, we're actually real,
and everybody's like no, like nobody believes that they're real.
But then I guess the question will be if if
cash MATEL gets nominated and they just disappear and you're
like yeah, well no, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well just know that's a great point.
Speaker 3: Like also, you know a lot of those situations I
have read a decent amount on this kind of so
not so much of them, but past instances of these
kinds of things and like fed groups or whatever and
go and tell bro and all that. A lot of
times it's just like one or two dudes that are
kind of the informants or the you know, handler people.
So the majority of the people are going to be thinking,
on now, we're all we're good, we're legit. So you know,
it only takes a couple of people in these kind
of organiza to be kind of the provocateur front person.
Like if you look into Oklahoma City and Ellowheim City
that it was, it was structured that way where it's
very few people that were.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I think we I think I had what
was his name, Richard? He remember, but he covers all
the Oklahoma City stuff in depth.
Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he was I can't remember if
it was him who was saying, like there was a
situation with Oklahoma where there was like two informants who
like didn't know they were each and forge yeah, like
they didn't know each other, and then it was like
one of these things where it just ended up mostly
being like informants and it's just like barely any real people,
similar to probably like the Gretchen.
Speaker 3: Well, the militias a lot of times turn out to
be like like different FEDS and it's like five FEDS
and like two rednecks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, and you're like, this is just
mostly FEDS, and like, I guess they're just trying to
get them caught up in something so they can say
they're doing shit because uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The budget justifying the Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the one that I'm most looking forward
to out of all these guys is cash MATEL because
he literally just wants to like shut down the FBI basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said some pretty wild stuff.
Speaker 1: He said something on that Sean Ryan interview. He said,
crazy shit. He's like day one and I'm turning the
FBI building into a Museum of the Deep State, and
you're just like that, it's a crazy guy to hire.
I mean, it'll be awesome just to see how that works,
if that can even be done exactly. I'm somewhat skeptical.
All right, let's take another call and then we'll let
you go. Where where can people find You're just your
YouTube channel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me there. I have a website
Jason Elsons dot com. IM get archives there. I'm on
rock fin which is a great free street space platform.
Every Friday host the Fourth Hour box shones. You find
me on Twitter, Instagram.
Speaker 1: All that nice. Okay, let's take a we'll call here
and then we'll wrap it up. We got slav here.
This should be interesting. Yeah, what's up? Yeah? What's up?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 9: Jay?
Speaker 5: You're familiar.
Speaker 9: You've probably heard it before of.
Speaker 11: The Cloward Privence strategy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where you essentially run up the debt to collapse
the system.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and do you know that it is the Calergy
plan that uh fields it?
Speaker 8: Have you heard of that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have Count Clergy's book, I've read him.
So what is that? I mean, I know about the
two different things, but what's that to do with cloud
and Piven.
Speaker 11: Well, what is it? Wouldn't you think that like a
mass importation of like you know, like a biblical locus
level of you know, so it's from different latitudes into
developed nations. It is how you just basically set.
Speaker 8: The cloud Privence strategy into motion.
Speaker 3: Oh that' see what you're saying, Like, so clergy is
destroying the existing people groups through the importation of the
people logically connects then to using cloud and Piven to
crash the economics system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: The whole thing.
Speaker 1: Has that cloud and pivment thing? Has that been done
like in other countries that we like know of or
is that like a theoretical Yeah?
Speaker 11: Well, Danny, you know how you said like all these
developed European nations and white Christian nations you talk about
they have a labor shortage. Well the data has been
come out from the last like five to ten years
where yeah, they can't even what is it? Their unemployment
amongst the soilunce speakers who came there for work, you know,
is unemployments like basically sixty seventy of the unemployed or women,
I mean, what is it? And then ninety of the
asylum speakers that are women are also unemployed. So basically
it's just like cat like and pretty much ninety percent
of them been on government assist It's like they're basically
dealing with the because he's dude. They all hang outside
in The most work they do is just stand.
Speaker 9: In line to collect their benefits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 11: This is it's a great replacement reality.
Speaker 9: It's not a theory.
Speaker 11: My question was, what do you think would how do
you think what is like the most practical way And
I don't care about humanity in this sense in this
question and this hypothetical, but the most practical way to
reverse all of this.
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, you know, I was talking about this
today on livestream. I mean, it took one hundred years
of social engineering and like Fabian socialist technique to get
to down the tube to where we are, so it's
probably gonna take many many years to climb back out.
I don't know all the answers because I mean, we're
already locked into a global economy, so I don't know
how we're going to be able to totally not be connected to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any answers, But.
Speaker 11: Can it start with normalizing letting people think like, Hey,
those people don't look like me, don't behave like me,
don't speak like me, can communicate with me. They you know,
they can't interact. Their own way of acting in their
own society, in their heads doesn't match mine, Like does it?
Speaker 6: Did?
Speaker 11: It start from like a bottom up level?
Speaker 3: It seems like people are waking up to it because
they're being forced to because things are getting really crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I meanportation.
Speaker 11: Dude, Dude, half my complex gone. I got a whole
stack of freshman actually behind the dumpsters.
Speaker 1: You literally have the people live where you live are gone.
He lives in Texas. Are they gone or are they
just not leaving their house?
Speaker 11: Oh no? Some some of them sneak the fuck out
in the middle, Like as I just said, there's there's
a stack of fresh mattresses and a whole bunch of
stuff like and and they're getting petty like it's they
all like because our complex has like two buildings for it.
The other building is way more of them, and they
messed up their whole laundry room like being petty, dude.
Speaker 1: Where they Where are they going though? Like you think
they're self deporting?
Speaker 9: Dude?
Speaker 11: If they're if they're running and hiding. They know that
that just proves that they're guilty. If they're self deporting. Good.
I don't want them back here anyway. No chances. Honestly,
anybody getting deported should not even be given a chance.
Just what anybody being never get a chance to try
and come back into America?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean most of them are. You got probably
like an automatic twenty year bar for a lot of
those people that.
Speaker 11: No, no, no, they should be that they should have they
should be branded on their foreheads or on their face somewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 11: I mean it's been done before.
Speaker 1: So yeah where.
Speaker 2: Gucci mane ice cream brand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Gucci man not a lot back at the
ice cream shop. Uh, that's about it.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I mean otherwise you guys, all right, Actually we should
have more caller here.
Speaker 1: Let's take this and then I'll let you go. Thanks
again for coming on here time. Yeah, this person has
been calling NonStop. Hello are you there?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 8: Hey, dany I had a question. I had a question
for Jay Dyer. How how accurate? Well we sort of
know that the Getty family is a little suspect or
are but how accurate is the I live in l
A and I've heard this a lot. How accurate is
it that the Getty Center in Los Angeles is actually
a human trafficking hub and one of these places where
elites come to meet.
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly don't. I don't know a whole
lot about the Getty's.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know about Jay John pul and some
of the family drama, but I actually don't know a
whole lot about him. I've study more like the Rockefellers
and the Rothschild's and JP Morgan Vanderbilt's.
Speaker 2: I don't know a what about the Gettys.
Speaker 8: Honestly, Yeah, I sort of grew up in that area
of Los Angeles, and I just have to say, there's
a lot of things now that I'm older, that we're
just completely suspect, So I just check it out. I'm
a big fans oh guns in people's like palettes of guns,
and like people's backyard that were like tarped up, you know.
I remember like some people going missing and then like
being found. It's like and not making a big deal
about it, you know, because there's like some rich kids,
you know, like their parents didn't want to make a
big deal about it, so like no, you know, but yeah,
there's a just nefarious activities that happened around then.
Speaker 2: Wasn't the story Like one of the kids was kidnapped
and then the John Poet he was like, yeah, I
don't really care really yeah, something crazy like that, Like
he was such a rich asshole. He was just like,
I'm not paying your ransom money.
Speaker 1: Oh he's just straight up as I'd rather have money.
Speaker 3: Keep him dude, whatever, that's insane, have fun with him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you guys.
Speaker 8: And yeah, I just have to say my mom sort
of started working at the VA Center that's not far
from there, and she told me, I mean, it is
an old part of LA, but yeah, she told me
there's a whole bunch of tunnel systems down there.
Speaker 2: That's true, the tunnels all through LA, that is true.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And I found a couple in Hollywood where I
used to work, which was pretty cool. But yeah, thanks
thanks man.
Speaker 1: Yeah I saw have you ever seen those videos about
the Vegas all the underground tunnels in Vegas that like
all the fucking like homeless people basically live in and
there's all like tons of like sex offenders and stuff.
Really cool documentaries on YouTube. Vegas has all these like
I don't know if they're like aqueducts or what, but
they're these like there's like this underground like tunnel system
and it's just like full of people.
Speaker 3: Like it's like it seems like yeah, like it seems
like like all the cities basically have this previously unknown
tunnels system going on underneath them all the big cities.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some cool like YouTube documentaries about it. But
all right, we're gonna let you go. Man, thank you
again for coming on. I appreciate it, dude. And yeah,
people go check check out his YouTube, check them out
on twitter. Uh if yeah, yeah, thanks again for coming on.
Jdire everybody. All right, uh, we are going to keep
the show moving on because we hit the twenty super chats.
So let me just do this and all right, I
hope it's not buffering for people. I keep getting this
notification that YouTube is buffering, but we are gonna go
for another forty one minutes. Guess we're gonna go. Let's
read some superchats. Actually, let's get to the superchats. I
haven't read any yet, so let's read them on mamm
My computers lagging. Right now we got Dylan Farnham. He says,
I was told by reliable sources you've been saying the
end word. I already read that. Actually