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Speaker 3: five am in British Columbia, Canada. Our guest today is Eric.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Eric, Good morning George. A great conversation prior
Speaker 3: to hitting the record button. And I know you have
Speaker 3: a lot of information to share with the audience, so
Speaker 3: please introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 4: Yes, my name is Eric Sweeter. I'm I'm Macadian. I
Speaker 4: live in Barrier. It's just a small small town north
Speaker 4: of Kamloops. It's just like a live We think we
Speaker 4: have eighteen hundred people according to the census, so it's
Speaker 4: pretty small. So sick. I like it because you could
Speaker 4: go to the grocery store and you'll see the same people.
Speaker 4: So especially and when when you live in a a
Speaker 4: time in our world where it's like you don't know
Speaker 4: who is you know, an enemy or whatever. Right, Like
Speaker 4: it's just so you know people, we recognized vehicles that
Speaker 4: come and see into your neighborhood and so we kind
Speaker 4: of community community watch going on.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4: Three kids. I got three kids and we just had one.
Speaker 4: I was going to be on their podcast earlier. But yeah,
Speaker 4: my baby was born November thirteenth, and that's why I
Speaker 4: wanted to do the podcast really because it's they're all
Speaker 4: sleeping right now.
Speaker 3: Sou to tell us a little bit about your journey
Speaker 3: to the truth. I know you had mentioned, uh, you
Speaker 3: you grew up in a family Jove witness, and you
Speaker 3: had mentioned while they necessarily weren't, as we say, conspiracy theorists,
Speaker 3: they did understand the world of lives we lived in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say, yeah, I was raised Joe's Witness,
Speaker 4: and they never really pressured me to, you know, pursue it.
Speaker 4: Do you have to like make the truth your own?
Speaker 4: But it did help me as a child to like
Speaker 4: to know, to be to be aware and to be
Speaker 4: skeptical of, you know, things that are like we're in
Speaker 4: Satan system, right. So, like my dad, like I remember
Speaker 4: my dad's was never really into conspiracies and going into
Speaker 4: the library and getting all this information in you know,
Speaker 4: before the Internet, but he was he was aware of
Speaker 4: like he fully believed that Kennedy was assassinated by the
Speaker 4: government and there's evil things all around us, right, so
Speaker 4: and and then like oh sorry.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're good go ahead, continue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then so I didn't really follow it too
Speaker 4: well because I was like, of course, I was went
Speaker 4: to public school, so they were trying to tell me.
Speaker 4: You know, there we were the the globe is tilted
Speaker 4: a certain degree, so it just tilts two more degrees,
Speaker 4: the son would just cook us. And if it tilts
Speaker 4: another way, it's going to freeze to death. So that's
Speaker 4: I think, that's really why I had a hard time
Speaker 4: with my connection with God, because it just didn't make
Speaker 4: any sense, right, And now as you get older, I'm
Speaker 4: finally starting to realize that, you know, like I remember
Speaker 4: my brother was studying black holes, and it just you
Speaker 4: look into all this stuff and it just doesn't make
Speaker 4: any sense at all. Right, So it's like, and now
Speaker 4: he is, of course an atheist and getting full of tattoos,
Speaker 4: and I don't know. I joke about wanting to work
Speaker 4: at an old folks home in like fifty years when
Speaker 4: they're all sleeve tattooed and wrink it up and going
Speaker 4: to be something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. And that is something that I wonder
Speaker 3: about with all the information that is used in the
Speaker 3: education system to hide God. And we truly do live
Speaker 3: in a world where what was the phrase, do what
Speaker 3: thou art, do what thou want the Aleister Crowley, Right,
Speaker 3: it's just people living for themselves. You see the decline
Speaker 3: of people wanting to have children, people wanting to live
Speaker 3: for themselves, and there's no greater joy. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: you could attest as well as having a child. And
Speaker 3: you think back to these things, and I know we've
Speaker 3: mentioned them before, but the way they hide God through
Speaker 3: heliocentrism and evolution and the Big Bang theory, so on
Speaker 3: and so forth with scientism, I wonder if that has
Speaker 3: a subconscious leaning of keeping people away from God.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I agree, it's that's the that's the main thing,
Speaker 4: because they don't want to be accountable, they don't want
Speaker 4: to like its.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: The one thing for me was just in the last
Speaker 4: three or four years, I I met up with this
Speaker 4: friend of mine. He's, uh, he served he's still serving
Speaker 4: in the Canadian military since like the nineties, right, and
Speaker 4: he's served in Iraq in different places. And he was
Speaker 4: telling me like he's like I believe the earth is
Speaker 4: six thousand years old or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like the flood happened and day was like two thousand years,
Speaker 4: you know, approximately six seven thousand years old. And I,
Speaker 4: you know, before I would just laugh and like, what
Speaker 4: are you talking about, because even like as Job's witnessed,
Speaker 4: they would they would believe in the gap theory, like
Speaker 4: there may have been dinosaurs, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like the Earth was created in seven days, but there
Speaker 4: could be.
Speaker 3: Less.
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, there could be you know, millions of years
Speaker 4: between each day, right, And so instead of just looking
Speaker 4: at that, and I think this was even before I
Speaker 4: came to flat Earth, but just that kind of opened
Speaker 4: up my mind to like, Okay, so this guy's believes
Speaker 4: in the Bible. He's been around the world, he's seen things,
Speaker 4: he's been you know, and so I just kind of
Speaker 4: made me think, okay, so maybe I should just look
Speaker 4: at the Bible more literally, right, yep. And then so
Speaker 4: that really helped me. It's like because like instead of
Speaker 4: just laughing, you know what I'm saying, like, because I don't.
Speaker 4: And that's what I realized, Like, it's easier to believe
Speaker 4: sixty billion years, right, if you make the numbers bigger,
Speaker 4: it's a lot more. It's easier for people to for
Speaker 4: their palette, you know what I'm saying. So like this,
Speaker 4: then the sun is they used to say it was
Speaker 4: thirty or sixty million, and now it's ninety three million,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And then so and then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: when you look at the Bible and you look at
Speaker 4: it more literally and it's like, no, the sun is
Speaker 4: not a star, right, and we don't really know what
Speaker 4: the sun is, and like even what happened to this?
Speaker 3: Oh the flatter that what was it called the the final.
Speaker 4: Finalment, the final experiment? Yeah, and so that is that's
Speaker 4: again it's like testing your your beliefs. Belief in faith
Speaker 4: is the same thing, right, Like, yep, so was it faked?
Speaker 4: Because I can really follow that Austin wits it and
Speaker 4: it's we don't know what the sun is and whether
Speaker 4: it was like it really is still up in the air.
Speaker 4: I think they went down there and I think there
Speaker 4: was a twenty four hour son, right, So.
Speaker 3: Right. I think it was irrespond. I think it was
Speaker 3: irresponsible for them to call it the final experiment because
Speaker 3: it still doesn't explain us being able to see too far.
Speaker 3: It doesn't explain that water still finds its level and
Speaker 3: you know, all the other things is that we have,
Speaker 3: you know, with the the temperature of the moon being cooler,
Speaker 3: the light and all the other things that we've cited
Speaker 3: over the years. Because there's a twenty four hour sun,
Speaker 3: that's it. Game over. You know, there's no such no
Speaker 3: flatter back to the globe. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's and you know what. And then
Speaker 4: one thing also I wanted to point out is like,
Speaker 4: because we went through COVID and I live in a
Speaker 4: province in Canada, which is I kind of wanted to
Speaker 4: go into some details, like our city, our main city
Speaker 4: of Vancouver, they have they were MANUFC, Like they have
Speaker 4: one of the leading companies that manufacture the what's it
Speaker 4: the lipids?
Speaker 3: What are they call oh yeah, no, for the medicine
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's called the biotech company ACTS, yeah, therapeutics.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyways, so they were making they were it's what were
Speaker 4: they doing.
Speaker 3: They was.
Speaker 4: It was the vehicle for the vaccines to be delivered, right,
Speaker 4: so they could use them for all different kinds of things,
Speaker 4: not just the mRNA. So like this these companies were
Speaker 4: making lots and lots of money. So it's like it
Speaker 4: was just wild, like they were pushing it for the
Speaker 4: children to get vaccinated, and it just kept pushing it,
Speaker 4: pushing it, and then our neighboring province was our neighboring
Speaker 4: province was stopping it, like okay, so you no longer
Speaker 4: have to be vaccinated, but they could just kept going
Speaker 4: for like it was like another year almost. It was wild. Right,
Speaker 4: So this is the reason I brought that up is
Speaker 4: because like when you when you typed in t FE
Speaker 4: into YouTube, it would just bring up and they would
Speaker 4: be hundreds and hundreds of or the first five or
Speaker 4: six pages would all be about this final experiment right
Speaker 4: when we But then if you before this, you would
Speaker 4: type it in anything flat Earth and it would just
Speaker 4: be debunking and mockery and you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like so like I kind of use that YouTube as
Speaker 4: e gauged what is what is what they want you
Speaker 4: to see and what they don't want you to see
Speaker 4: because like you couldn't. And then that's when I found out,
Speaker 4: like I started going on Rumble and different platforms because
Speaker 4: like the censorship and what they want you to you know,
Speaker 4: it's they're really molding your minds and you get into
Speaker 4: these silos, right, that's just it's very difficult to navigate.
Speaker 3: It's interesting you mentioned that you you'd mentioned before the
Speaker 3: program or before we started recording, that Vancouver and BC
Speaker 3: is kind of uh California two point zero, But then
Speaker 3: you had mentioned the province next to you, which is Alberta,
Speaker 3: and that is more not exactly, but that resembles Texas
Speaker 3: more conservative beliefs. They have the rodeos, that the Calgary
Speaker 3: Stampede and all that other stuff, and they were one
Speaker 3: of the few areas that if I remember correctly, maybe
Speaker 3: uh Saskatchewan as well, but they were one of the
Speaker 3: few that really did not push the vaccine during COVID.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's that's one hundred percent acurate. I got a
Speaker 4: brother that lives in Calgary. I lived in Calgary for
Speaker 4: a couple of years, and yeah, it's Stephan. Calgary is
Speaker 4: kind of like Houston, Texas. You know, that's where the
Speaker 4: hub or all the businesses are, right all the offices, yep,
Speaker 4: and it's it's kind of like it's and then it's
Speaker 4: weird like because Alberta and then the northern BC, like
Speaker 4: the Peace Country, it's like anything on I guess east
Speaker 4: of the Rocky Mountains. It's more conservative if you would like,
Speaker 4: you know, like a Bible belt type thing, and then
Speaker 4: and then it stops in Manitoba. I don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on in Manitoba, but it's kind of scary because
Speaker 4: they're like they got I think in the university now
Speaker 4: just recently, Like it's what is it, Oh, yeah, they
Speaker 4: have a you know, I no no white people allowed
Speaker 4: in this certain area of the university. And it's like
Speaker 4: really supposed to be inclusion. Yeah, it's just they're not
Speaker 4: giving up on the woke stuff, and I just it's
Speaker 4: weird because, like you said, Alberta, Saskatchewan is more conservative
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know, I'm glad that this woke
Speaker 4: stuff is kind of ending because like I have kids
Speaker 4: that are going to schools and I want to homeschool them.
Speaker 4: You know. It's just but at the same time, you
Speaker 4: can you don't want to shelter them.
Speaker 3: Too much, right exactly, that that is something you have
Speaker 3: to be careful of. You just don't want to send them,
Speaker 3: send them into the world without having a little uh,
Speaker 3: you know, battle tripping if you will.
Speaker 4: Exactly. That's what of Like even when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: like my parents raised us up and we were they
Speaker 4: didn't really shelter us too much, right, because like you
Speaker 4: see some people that are you know, you try to
Speaker 4: protect them and then they rebel so much. So it's
Speaker 4: like I don't want that for my kids, right, So.
Speaker 3: That was exactly my story. I turned eighteen and I
Speaker 3: went wild. Yeah, I want to ask you two questions
Speaker 3: of things we've talked about already before we get too
Speaker 3: far ahead. As far as the Joe Jehovah's Witness, what
Speaker 3: was the information that they used to support the gap theory?
Speaker 3: Do you recall?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really remember. They had like these
Speaker 4: VHS tapes and they'd get us, get us to watch
Speaker 4: them and stuff like that, like, and it was just
Speaker 4: kind of like because they wanted to. They're obviously they
Speaker 4: weren't into evolution, right, They were trying to preach the
Speaker 4: creation and just how you know, and I think that
Speaker 4: there's some parts of Christianity right that still you know,
Speaker 4: like even Catholicism, right, they have that was it? The
Speaker 4: telescope there, the Lucifer telescope.
Speaker 3: Can't make this stuff, I mean yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they were just trying to, like I said,
Speaker 4: try to make it because like unfortunately, like I think
Speaker 4: they it's a business model, and I hate I don't
Speaker 4: like to say that organized religion is the devil, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Or it could because they and
Speaker 4: then I tell this about because I think they just
Speaker 4: wanted to show that so that they could keep their followers,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And because there's no other
Speaker 4: reason why they would, you know, talk about space and
Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff and how God created all
Speaker 4: this stuff. And it's like when you read the Bible,
Speaker 4: and then that's the thing too. It's like it's clearly
Speaker 4: in the Bible that there's a firmament, right, and so
Speaker 4: and then you look at and you get these the
Speaker 4: best telescopes that money can buy, and you look up
Speaker 4: in the stars and then you don't see what they
Speaker 4: see with the Hubble telescope, right, that's right. So they
Speaker 4: literally look like glimmering, you know, lights in water.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they look like they're shimmering, right yeah.
Speaker 4: So and then yeah, of course you have to have
Speaker 4: the Hubble telescope in order to see them more clearly.
Speaker 4: And it's just like whatever, it's just this Satan's trying
Speaker 4: to deceive us.
Speaker 3: Right, certainly is and he's doing that twenty four seven
Speaker 3: three sixty five I tell people that if he spent
Speaker 3: forty days and forty nights with Jesus, you know, the
Speaker 3: one person who was not flawed to have walked the earth,
Speaker 3: imagine what he's doing to us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh the other Yeah, the other question I wanted to
Speaker 3: ask you was, you know, you had mentioned that your
Speaker 3: your parents were aware that Kennedy was probably killed by
Speaker 3: the government. What were their thoughts on the moon landing?
Speaker 1: What were their thoughts on the moon landing? I don't, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: like the thing is like they didn't really talk about
Speaker 1: it too much, but like I don't know they are
Speaker 1: They just felt like the government was I mean, there
Speaker 1: are good people in the government, but it's just like
Speaker 1: you can't people go there with good intentions.
Speaker 4: And then you get then you realize behind closed doors,
Speaker 4: like this is the this is a different club, and
Speaker 4: you can't.
Speaker 3: It's impossible to slay the beast. It truly is. The
Speaker 3: epic proportion of the enemy within the gates is unfathomable.
Speaker 3: It's just crazy.
Speaker 4: So like they, like I said, they were trying to
Speaker 4: like I think they might have believed that they were
Speaker 4: the moon landing, but I never did, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying they just taught me to just question everything.
Speaker 4: So like I really, like, I don't I never really
Speaker 4: considered myself a conspiracy theorist until, like, you know, there's
Speaker 4: like it's kind of like I used to feel like
Speaker 4: I was a liberal and then they just kind of
Speaker 4: kept progressing and left me behind it. Now I'm a conservative, right,
Speaker 4: So it's like if you don't go along with this mainstream,
Speaker 4: you start questioning things, then they're going to call you
Speaker 4: a conspiracy theorist. So it's like, you know, even with
Speaker 4: the blood transfusions, like that was a big thing with
Speaker 4: the the Joe's Witnesses in the eighties, right, not to
Speaker 4: get blood transfusions, and then of course it was like
Speaker 4: the eighties and nineties, like who is the president from
Speaker 4: Arkansas there, Bill Clinton? And then they were getting blood
Speaker 4: transfi they were getting blood donations from the prisoners, right,
Speaker 4: and so that was the real thing. And so so
Speaker 4: that's there are reasons to be skeptical, right, and then
Speaker 4: that kind of goes into too Like my mother she
Speaker 4: had like literally thirteen major surgeries right here in Canada,
Speaker 4: and she never took blood for any of them. And
Speaker 4: like she had her colone removed, she had like pins
Speaker 4: in her spine. There's all sorts of major surgery, is right,
Speaker 4: like knee replacements, and it's just like kind of messy doctors. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: it's like they, Yeah, remember one time she had to
Speaker 4: she had to go from They wouldn't do her surgery
Speaker 4: in Vancouver. They had to go to a doctor in
Speaker 4: Calgary because they just didn't want to do it right.
Speaker 4: And then sure enough she had the surgery is and
Speaker 4: then it was it all went well, right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's why anytime you face something like that,
Speaker 3: it's good to get two or three what do you
Speaker 3: call it, You go go to two or three different
Speaker 3: doctors and get an opinion from them. And we had
Speaker 3: mentioned again we had an interesting conversation before we hit
Speaker 3: the record button. Anytime something becomes for profit, the consumer
Speaker 3: does not benefit from it. And that exactly what the
Speaker 3: medical industry has become for profit and we are the
Speaker 3: consumer and healthy people do not make for a good
Speaker 3: business model for the political industry, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like and then in Canada we have like
Speaker 4: it's like public medical right, so it's like it's all
Speaker 4: government yep. So the doctors are not they're paid for
Speaker 4: by they're paid by the government, but then they think
Speaker 4: they also, but they get who is paying taxes. It's
Speaker 4: the pharmaceutical companies, right, and so they're literally so it's
Speaker 4: it's like, how how is that happening that they're not
Speaker 4: privatized but they can still have this influence. And it's
Speaker 4: like because the bureaucracy, right, the ones that are running
Speaker 4: the the medical system or getting you know, they're trying
Speaker 4: to keep their funding and stuff like that. So we
Speaker 4: hear a lot of the times it's like, we have
Speaker 4: this budget, so we have to spend it, right. If
Speaker 4: we don't use it, we lose it. And so this
Speaker 4: you hear this in the school system, in our medical
Speaker 4: system quite a bit. So like even if you had
Speaker 4: a minister that was trying to do right and you know,
Speaker 4: make keep the books kind of you know what i mean,
Speaker 4: like save some money or you know, manage it properly, right,
Speaker 4: it's just possible because it's just in every different department
Speaker 4: in your whole ministry, they're all just like spending their
Speaker 4: budget as much as they.
Speaker 3: Can, right, absolutely, And most of those budgets have a
Speaker 3: that they're budgeted out for the year. And if you
Speaker 3: don't use it, you'll lose it and you'll actually have
Speaker 3: less money than the following year or so.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then, like I was telling you before we
Speaker 4: started recording, like with my with my daughter, and it
Speaker 4: was like they were like they got a diagnosis from
Speaker 4: a biopsy result on the Monday, and then they wanted
Speaker 4: to do surgery on the Wednesday. And I was like,
Speaker 4: and this is all happened, and then they're going to
Speaker 4: do it, can sign the consent forums on Tuesday. And
Speaker 4: she was totally she's been she was doing fine, she
Speaker 4: was doing she had she has this disease called Hurts
Speaker 4: Sprung's disease, right, so it's it's something to do with
Speaker 4: her large and colon. She doesn't have the ganglion cells.
Speaker 4: So but like the thing is, I didn't even know
Speaker 4: if the biopsy results were accurate, right, because that's what
Speaker 4: I was thinking to myself, is like, so if I
Speaker 4: lived in the States, I could go to another hospital,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: do biopsies on my kid all the time either, because
Speaker 4: the recto biopsy is it's very dangerous, right because you
Speaker 4: can get into the bloodstream and stuff like that. Right,
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking like right now, she's doing fine and
Speaker 4: she's only two months three months old, right, but she
Speaker 4: eating because she has the appetite, and there's so there
Speaker 4: are things that we have to look out for, but
Speaker 4: she has the appetite, she doesn't have a fever, she's
Speaker 4: not lethargic, just her stomach has not distended. So we
Speaker 4: have like these seven seven or eight things that we
Speaker 4: have to watch out for, but and she's been totally fine.
Speaker 4: So it's just like do they And I just had
Speaker 4: a feeling like did they just want to do the
Speaker 4: surgery just for more practice? Because they it's a wonderful hospital,
Speaker 4: and like I understand that they do save lives and
Speaker 4: there's surgery is necessary of course a lot of time,
Speaker 4: but it should be like the last thing you want
Speaker 4: to do, right because and then it's just weird and
Speaker 4: like like I was praying and you really don't know
Speaker 4: what to do, right, But it's just kind of like
Speaker 4: strengthens my faith that there is a god if this
Speaker 4: has happened and she doesn't need to have surgery and
Speaker 4: she could just and again, and because I just don't
Speaker 4: think I don't believe that the biopsy, but like I
Speaker 4: don't want to be a crazy conspiracy theorist. But it's
Speaker 4: just like more and more evidence all the time. And
Speaker 4: then I talk to other people that have had misdiagnosis
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's not easy living here, but I mean beautiful, it's
Speaker 4: beautiful living here.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I can't imagine how beautiful it is up there.
Speaker 3: But again, we do live in a world that is
Speaker 3: run by Satan. And yeah, nine well we'll say ninety
Speaker 3: eight percent of the people on the earth, they're genuinely
Speaker 3: good people who just want to provide for their family. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but unfortunately the governments are the one that make our
Speaker 3: lives all miserable. And and again once government gets involved
Speaker 3: in healthcare on top of the corporations, we're in big trouble.
Speaker 3: I wanted to I want.
Speaker 4: To say one thing, like obviously, these these doctors did
Speaker 4: not have like they had the best of intentions, right,
Speaker 4: and I just but I just do know that they're
Speaker 4: they're they don't have a belief in God, they don't,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And they're just all about
Speaker 4: the science, and like they cannot ignore these test results,
Speaker 4: right because they have a license and it's their livelihood
Speaker 4: on absolutely, so they're trying to do the best. But like,
Speaker 4: like I kind of have a knack for reading people,
Speaker 4: and like I was talking to the head doctor and
Speaker 4: I did I did make I wrote him an email saying, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't feel like you're pressuring me at all,
Speaker 4: but I did feel some pressure from others in the hospital.
Speaker 4: So anyways, it's just so it was just a very
Speaker 4: traumatic experience. And I had a lot of help from
Speaker 4: our little church community here and I do attend a church.
Speaker 4: I'm not a member, but but they're like a Seven
Speaker 4: day Adventists.
Speaker 3: So that's good to have a community to fall back
Speaker 3: on when ye're going through a trying time like that,
Speaker 3: to have a shoulder to lean on and and to
Speaker 3: run information pass you know that you never know who
Speaker 3: has experienced something similar to what you've gone through before
Speaker 3: and they can provide you advice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you need a community like this idea of
Speaker 4: everyone just going to church, like following on YouTube, you
Speaker 4: know these ministries on YouTube, like like again, like this,
Speaker 4: the internet is a useful tool, like the fact that
Speaker 4: we're able to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: It's a supplemental tool. It should be used as a
Speaker 3: supplemental tool, not a primary tool.
Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah, It's like I think the same thing with
Speaker 4: like a microwave. Like the microwave is a great invention,
Speaker 4: but it's directly connected to obesity because.
Speaker 3: You should be cooking every meal in it. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: great point. Yeah, I'm going to steal that analogy. I
Speaker 3: wanted to get a little bit back into flat Earth
Speaker 3: and talk about how your your journey started. Now, So
Speaker 3: what I usually asked people was there a certain quote
Speaker 3: unquote conspiracy that you came across prior to flat Earth
Speaker 3: and maybe while you were down in the rabbit hole
Speaker 3: as you came into this, or was this the first
Speaker 3: one that really grabbed you?
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, though, like my parents, they never
Speaker 4: really talked about the moon landing, I don't really remember
Speaker 4: it too much. But like even nine to eleven that happened.
Speaker 4: How old was I when nine to eleven happened. I
Speaker 4: was born in eighty five. I remember I was like
Speaker 4: in elementary school, right, but like shortly after that happened,
Speaker 4: I was I was thinking like no, literally, like this
Speaker 4: is not this is not that these are these guys
Speaker 4: aren't terrorists, you know what I'm saying like, like, I
Speaker 4: do know that there are bad people, right sure, like
Speaker 4: every Muslim is not They're not like they're they're trying
Speaker 4: to see the Creator, right, the same with our the
Speaker 4: same with what we're doing work with you know, our
Speaker 4: God is our God and their God is I think
Speaker 4: it's the same God. But that's a different story. But
Speaker 4: so there was that and like and then later on
Speaker 4: I remember fast forward quite a bit because in my
Speaker 4: twenties I was not doing anything really like to improve myself.
Speaker 4: I was just the partying and working and this and that.
Speaker 4: So and then I remember I was also had a
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen. I kind of was getting the YouTube
Speaker 4: was really like kind of the wild West back then,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I was looking into like North Korea.
Speaker 4: I was like just really interested in North Korea and
Speaker 4: how could this country be so like cut off from
Speaker 4: the rest of the world and they just heavily propaganda
Speaker 4: is right, And then I just started to think, like
Speaker 4: even back then, like so it's only one country in
Speaker 4: the whole world that has propaganda and then the rest
Speaker 4: of us are just you.
Speaker 3: Know, getting the effects.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just it just didn't make any sense, right,
Speaker 4: And so then I was piecing it together back then,
Speaker 4: and like like I've always been a skeptic, and but
Speaker 4: I don't want it to be. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be a looney bin. Like even when I was during
Speaker 4: this COVID stuff and the COVID thing, they did wake
Speaker 4: me up too, Like it woke me up to like
Speaker 4: because I thought maybe that my parents had the truth,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and this and that and
Speaker 4: then but then they were going to do the all
Speaker 4: the major religions, all of them across the board. You
Speaker 4: couldn't get a what was it when you wanted to
Speaker 4: have a what was it called? I'm blanking on it?
Speaker 3: What for what? I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: When you wanted to get the vaccine, when you didn't
Speaker 4: want to get the vaccine, you were trying to get
Speaker 4: ah a religious exemption, A religious exemption, yes, And so
Speaker 4: then then they were all for it too. And then
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, because like these guys
Speaker 4: don't want to take any blood, and here we are
Speaker 4: using because they were testing them with stem cell or
Speaker 4: there was different cells, right, And so then that's kind
Speaker 4: of woke me up to like maybe it's not the truth, right,
Speaker 4: but I still make I still wanted to believe in God.
Speaker 4: So because it's like, I know, that's what I found
Speaker 4: out too, Like they're not it's not always all these
Speaker 4: are organizations get infiltrated, right absolutely, and so like then
Speaker 4: as there's truth in a lot of these different denominations, right,
Speaker 4: so you have to That's why you have to like
Speaker 4: do your own research, right from like from the day one,
Speaker 4: like two thousand years ago, we had to do your
Speaker 4: own research because if you just let somebody tell you
Speaker 4: what's what, it's not gonna That's how Satan's kinda deceives everybody.
Speaker 4: So there was that, and then so twenty fourteen I
Speaker 4: was looking into this, and then I was like, so
Speaker 4: fast forward a bit more twenty and sixteen seventeen, I
Speaker 4: I finally got my passport, right, and so I started
Speaker 4: to go travel around the world, right, just a little
Speaker 4: bit down to them. I had a Filipino friend, and
Speaker 4: I went to the Philippines to visit with him, right,
Speaker 4: and because it'd be like, oh, we got basically a
Speaker 4: tour guide, right, I can go see see the country,
Speaker 4: not just the tourist sites. And I went over there
Speaker 4: and I actually that's where I met my wife.
Speaker 3: But she went from the Philippines to British Columbia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh wow, and then in a small small town too.
Speaker 4: But like I was going there and I was going
Speaker 4: back and forth. I went there like seven times over
Speaker 4: a course of six seven years. Right. And but then
Speaker 4: there was like the Isis I remember there was another
Speaker 4: thing because like, yeah, there was a a Canadian guy
Speaker 4: got beheaded in the Philippines and he was down in
Speaker 4: another part of the country. Right. But I remember of
Speaker 4: traveling back and forth and my dad was like, oh,
Speaker 4: you got to be careful, you got to be careful.
Speaker 4: But and I just because I started to realize, like
Speaker 4: the media is trying to tell you stuff and they
Speaker 4: just like to make it bigger, bigger than it is,
Speaker 4: right because it's like there was an isolated incident, but
Speaker 4: they're trying to make it out like the whole country.
Speaker 4: If you go over there and you have my skin color,
Speaker 4: you're going to be a target, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Which it's it's just it could be the same in many,
Speaker 4: many countries. Right. And then then there was that Isis attack.
Speaker 4: That was another one that was I'm trying to come
Speaker 4: around to us to why I or where I started
Speaker 4: to believe we can't just trust the media. This is
Speaker 4: why I'm trying to tell you the story. So it's
Speaker 4: like and then there was a Isis attacks going on
Speaker 4: in Minda Now, which is down in the southern part
Speaker 4: of the Philippines, and it was literally isolated to like
Speaker 4: a sixty kilometer radius. But the CBC over in Canada
Speaker 4: here was trying to tell us that like the whole
Speaker 4: it was like martial law and the whole country was
Speaker 4: under lockdown. And I was already traveling there, right, I
Speaker 4: was already planning to go, and again my dad was
Speaker 4: telling me, oh, it's gonna be dangerous. And then I
Speaker 4: was literally like taking a domestic flight from Manila down
Speaker 4: to Sebou which is kind of in the middle and
Speaker 4: we were talking to the girls next to us on
Speaker 4: the plane and they were from that Minta Now area
Speaker 4: and they were like, yeah, it's not really affecting anything
Speaker 4: else besides this small sixty kilometer radius. It's kind of like,
Speaker 4: you know, like there's an ISIS attack in Red Deer, Alberta,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Or so yeah, this is
Speaker 4: kind of where I started to think, like the government
Speaker 4: is not the world is trying to deceive us, right
Speaker 4: and not to trust us and not to trust anything.
Speaker 4: So and then then the COVID thing happened, and still
Speaker 4: I was like, I remember going. I was flying near Taiwan, right,
Speaker 4: and that's so when did this all happen.
Speaker 3: It was like February, yeah, over there, it kicked off
Speaker 3: January February of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: January February. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember being with the mask and like spraying it
Speaker 4: going getting in the planes and people were like coffing
Speaker 4: and masks and stuff like that and it was going on,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I was just you know, because you don't
Speaker 4: know if it's for real or not, right, Like, you
Speaker 4: don't you have to be you'd be foolish to not,
Speaker 4: you know, especially when you don't know. But as more
Speaker 4: information came out and I just started to realize, like
Speaker 4: healthy people and then remember it was there doing the
Speaker 4: more lockdowns and then they were saying you can only
Speaker 4: travel if you're vaccinated and that kind of you know
Speaker 4: that it sucked with then all of a sudden that
Speaker 4: people were still spreading it, right, and then it's like
Speaker 4: wait a minute, so yeah, so that's kind of where
Speaker 4: I go. Then I, like I said, and then I
Speaker 4: met my friend here and he tells me that the
Speaker 4: Earth is six thousand years old. And then I just
Speaker 4: started to look at the Bible more and then sure enough.
Speaker 4: It took me a couple a year and a half,
Speaker 4: and I kept trying to disprove the flat earth, right,
Speaker 4: and then I kept looking and looking and looking and
Speaker 4: like okay, and then yeah, so, but I just couldn't right.
Speaker 4: And then I was again. I was flying to the Philippines.
Speaker 4: And then this time this was after all the COVID stuff.
Speaker 4: I think we went Intota. It was last year of
Speaker 4: February last year, I think, anyways, and I was praying.
Speaker 4: I was like, just prove to me that the the
Speaker 4: Earth is not flat, right, so I don't look like
Speaker 4: a crazy person, because it is. It's isolating, right, right.
Speaker 4: So I'm on the plane and there's literally you get
Speaker 4: up to altitude there and it just cruises along and
Speaker 4: we're going in a straight line. Why are we going
Speaker 4: up to Alaska? Why are we flying over North Korea?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I was always fascinated with
Speaker 4: North Koreas. And then we land and we go down
Speaker 4: because my wife's lives in a small town near the
Speaker 4: beach there, so we go down to the beach, and
Speaker 4: sure enough, on that exactly, I see the sun and
Speaker 4: then the moon right in the same sky, like just
Speaker 4: on opposite sides. Was like, what is going on? So
Speaker 4: that was really kind of it's more cementing it for me,
Speaker 4: right like, because you have to just you have to
Speaker 4: be aware of your senses, you know, and just it's
Speaker 4: not you know, there is a God, you know, and
Speaker 4: we have to just keep search keep trying to strengthen
Speaker 4: a relationship with God because that's that's how you're going
Speaker 4: to survive. Because yeah's a lot of wicked stuff going on,
Speaker 4: right there is.
Speaker 3: And the Bible makes it perfectly clear that you put
Speaker 3: your trust in God and not in Man. And if
Speaker 3: you look at many of the circumstances over the last
Speaker 3: twenty years, when the proverbial doo doo hits the fan,
Speaker 3: we tend to look to man first to secure our liberties. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and when these things happen, that's when they take advantage
Speaker 3: of set emergencies to take our liberties instead of And
Speaker 3: I still a couple times a year on my other podcast,
Speaker 3: we bring up COVID and we play all the just
Speaker 3: Irrational audio clips from the spring and summer of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty about you know, giving away free French fries and
Speaker 3: burgers for vaccines and joints for jabs and all of
Speaker 3: this other ridiculous stuff. Pastor I think his name was Pulowski.
Speaker 3: He was in your neck of the woods. I think
Speaker 3: more on Calgary, that's right. I admired the people who
Speaker 3: stood up, you know, for God and Jesus and the
Speaker 3: gospel versus. Oh, I have to close my church, but
Speaker 3: it's okay to leave the liquor stores and all these
Speaker 3: other things open. It was It was evil. It was
Speaker 3: probably one of the most evil things I've seen in
Speaker 3: my fifty five years on this earth. And I've seen
Speaker 3: a lot, right, Yeah, I've seen a lot. And just
Speaker 3: the simple fact of destroying people's mental health, destroying small business, right,
Speaker 3: COVID will destroy people if they walk into a mom
Speaker 3: and pop store, but it's okay for Amazon and Walmart
Speaker 3: to be open. The entire thing was completely evil, and
Speaker 3: I think we failed that test as a whole. Not
Speaker 3: necessarily the people who stoick it, not the vaccine portion
Speaker 3: of it, just the portion of them allowing to shut
Speaker 3: down the country and close our churches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember even my sister, she said to me,
Speaker 4: because she was she works for the she's part of
Speaker 4: the nurses union, right, so she and she works with
Speaker 4: early childhood development, and she didn't want and then our
Speaker 4: family also we have a history of like blood cloths
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, right, so she did not want
Speaker 4: to do it, right, And finally they she was gonna
Speaker 4: lose her job. And the only reason she did it
Speaker 4: was for her job. So it was definitely a coersion.
Speaker 4: And then it was like less than a couple of
Speaker 4: months later and then they kind of no longer made
Speaker 4: it mandatory, so it was really hard. But I remember
Speaker 4: she said to me, I'm so proud, like I'm thankful
Speaker 4: for you not to get the vaccine. But I was like,
Speaker 4: my wife is we try to be law abiding citizens too, right,
Speaker 4: So it's like it's a you're trying to drive a
Speaker 4: fine line because you want to be a Christian and
Speaker 4: kind of follow you know, to a certain extent, right,
Speaker 4: and like closing churches I think was a bad idea.
Speaker 4: And my friends and I used to just get together
Speaker 4: in a house, but I would I would see some
Speaker 4: people and I remember going to the grocery store and
Speaker 4: I would see them with their masks off, and I
Speaker 4: would have my mask on because and then I would
Speaker 4: go over to the to them and say like, thank
Speaker 4: you for what you're doing. I just don't have the
Speaker 4: courage to do do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I because I made it if I made a
Speaker 4: point to make tell these people to help encourage them,
Speaker 4: because I mean, I wanted to take my mask off,
Speaker 4: but my wife would just she wouldn't have it right.
Speaker 4: So it was because she's like nude, she's an immigrant
Speaker 4: to the country and she wants to follow the rules.
Speaker 3: And of course, yeah, yeah, but that was because I
Speaker 3: was a pretty staunch. If it came down to either
Speaker 3: me leaving or putting on a mask on, I'd put
Speaker 3: on a mask, especially if I had to get something
Speaker 3: for the chickens or my family. But I tried to
Speaker 3: make it a point. And you would see when you
Speaker 3: walked into Walmart without your mask on, people will kind
Speaker 3: of give you that nod like thanks, yeah, because maybe
Speaker 3: their spouse or somebody else didn't want to to you know,
Speaker 3: they either A they believed the propaganda or B they
Speaker 3: just I don't know. It was such an evil time
Speaker 3: and I remember just the world I don't know how
Speaker 3: to properly put it into words. But the world changed,
Speaker 3: like and I'm not sure wherever. Well, we're obviously never
Speaker 3: going to go back, but you know, the world used
Speaker 3: to be good about hiding evil, right, and they there's
Speaker 3: threads and I'm sure if you've been in down some
Speaker 3: rabbit holes, you know the truth about like Disney movies,
Speaker 3: the evil in that. You know, all the numerology and
Speaker 3: all the other stuff that's that's evil. But now it's
Speaker 3: just all out in the open, and it's in your commercials,
Speaker 3: it's in your movies, and it's just a really strange world.
Speaker 3: And it happened overnight. It didn't really right. For a
Speaker 3: long time. They used to say, you know, boil the frog,
Speaker 3: and these agendas they've had would go over generations. But
Speaker 3: over the last ten or fifteen years, it's just flipped
Speaker 3: its lid overnight.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I and like I said, remember before we started recording,
Speaker 4: I was like, I have to be careful because I
Speaker 4: going to get sidetracks because I do, you know, I
Speaker 4: look into all sorts of stuff and because you know what,
Speaker 4: you have to be aware, right, So, and like even
Speaker 4: with the COVID, at first you know, if you don't know,
Speaker 4: you'd be reckless to just you know, break the rules.
Speaker 4: But if you can find more and more information, and
Speaker 4: like that's the thing about the Internet, that's the positive
Speaker 4: thing is you know you can get information out there.
Speaker 4: Like there were doctors right that we're losing their position.
Speaker 4: Like even like the Canadian guy Jordan Peterson, he's a psychologist, right,
Speaker 4: and he was he got his license pulled up in
Speaker 4: Canada here, right because he's still going against the Wolke stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so what was I trying to say? It's
Speaker 4: we need to like we Yeah, so the it is prophesying,
Speaker 4: and I kind of think that it's they're they're not
Speaker 4: hiding it as much because people don't really care as much, right,
Speaker 4: Like I think I kind of have a theory that
Speaker 4: like during Bible times we were closer to perfection because
Speaker 4: as in the Bible that people were living nine hundred
Speaker 4: years what was his name, Medusa Enoch's mother or father
Speaker 4: or something like that, you know, living nine hundred years
Speaker 4: and then after the flood was one hundred and twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so like we can still have a connection, but I
Speaker 4: think we're just I think our DNA is breaking down
Speaker 4: And that's just my personal theory. And we were getting
Speaker 4: so yes, you can see miracles and you can see stuff,
Speaker 4: but it's just harder and harder to be We're being
Speaker 4: more and more disconnected, and like like I do think
Speaker 4: it's a spiritual battle like good and evil, and it's
Speaker 4: just as we get closer and closer, it's you know,
Speaker 4: we're just like we are, we're losing our connections. So
Speaker 4: you have to really really focus and pray, and so
Speaker 4: I think you still can have the strong connections that
Speaker 4: they had back then. It's just being harder and harder
Speaker 4: and harder.
Speaker 3: You have to be disciplined, and you have to minimize
Speaker 3: your distractions. If you're looking at your phone all day,
Speaker 3: chances are you're not going to be connected. Being outside
Speaker 3: plays a huge portion of it, right, Yeah, back in
Speaker 3: the day, they had shelters. They didn't really have houses
Speaker 3: where they just hung out all day. They were outside
Speaker 3: doing their work, collecting firewood, finding food. Right, they didn't
Speaker 3: really have grocery stores per se. I'm sure they had
Speaker 3: markets and things of that nature, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: if you were going to eat, you collected and you
Speaker 3: had to bake your breads and all these other menial
Speaker 3: tasks that you had to do to survive, and that's
Speaker 3: what we my family's trying to get back to. We
Speaker 3: grind our you know, our wheat, and make our own flour,
Speaker 3: grow our own bread, and we try to eat as
Speaker 3: much as our own chicken. You know, we raise chickens
Speaker 3: the eggs. And I realized not everybody can do that,
Speaker 3: but it's important to it. Does those type of things,
Speaker 3: I believe do bring you closer to God versus doing everything.
Speaker 3: And again we do the same thing too, we go
Speaker 3: to the grocery store, et cetera. But trying to do
Speaker 3: the those things as much as possible, I think does
Speaker 3: take you back to the way I think we were
Speaker 3: meant to be acting on this earth. We weren't meant
Speaker 3: to work for a bank fifty sixty hours a week
Speaker 3: and send children off to be you know, I don't like,
Speaker 3: I'm not in the business of bashing schools or teachers,
Speaker 3: because teachers is just a great profession and they mean, well, again,
Speaker 3: it's the system that's in place for many of the
Speaker 3: public schools. But I think it's important that we go
Speaker 3: back to educating our own children and to control what
Speaker 3: goes in their mind or at least at a community level.
Speaker 3: And you know, you know, Carter just died, Jimmy Carter,
Speaker 3: and he was the one who he was put in
Speaker 3: office by the Rockefellers and his soul. There was some
Speaker 3: other things done, but the biggest detriment that he inflicted
Speaker 3: on the United States was allowing the federal government to
Speaker 3: complete the hijacking of the education system that should be
Speaker 3: a community but not even state, it should be community level.
Speaker 3: So that was and I was part of that. In
Speaker 3: seventy nine, I got sent from my local school to
Speaker 3: the city, you know, twenty thirty minutes away to go
Speaker 3: to school, and it destroyed our community.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Like there's a couple of things I had.
Speaker 4: I did have some notes to try to keep me
Speaker 4: on track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go right ahead.
Speaker 4: The myth of progress. I heard this one and this
Speaker 4: one was stuck with me. I don't know where where
Speaker 4: I heard, but yeah, like our school Systemyeah, our school system.
Speaker 4: Some of the teachers have, like they said, they have
Speaker 4: good intentions, but they need to get back to like
Speaker 4: the basics, right and this because you know in our
Speaker 4: school districts here like and we have to like get
Speaker 4: parents more involved. But like they're just raising political activists,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And they don't even so
Speaker 4: they're taking time, the little time that they actually have
Speaker 4: in school, but it's not with break and going to
Speaker 4: different classes, and you know, they're just space spending it
Speaker 4: just trying to like, you know, we've got to save
Speaker 4: the planet. Like I remember watching a cartoon there's like
Speaker 4: Ted Turner actually I think he was like the one
Speaker 4: behind like that Captain Planet. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: remember this. Yeah, that's right, we've got to save the planet.
Speaker 4: And then this and this. I was like, do they
Speaker 4: really want because I God's not gonna let the planets
Speaker 4: be destroyed. But if we all think we're we only
Speaker 4: look after ourselves and we want to be gods ourselves
Speaker 4: and live as long as we can, and then you know,
Speaker 4: we're gonna just leave this planet. Like that's totally I
Speaker 4: guess what the Bible says.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, so I'm glad you brought up Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm unrated. Sorry, I'm glad you brought that up because yeah,
Speaker 3: Ted Turner was the primary behind that, but Barbara Pyle
Speaker 3: was the secondary and she was Ted Turner was kind
Speaker 3: of the money behind it, and Barbara Pyle was the
Speaker 3: content creator, if you will, and she was a United
Speaker 3: Nations lackey. She was a UN lackery. So yeah, that
Speaker 3: was she championed corporate social responsibility and all of these
Speaker 3: other things. And she was also part of Jimmy Carter's
Speaker 3: presidential administration. Yeah, so you know, all the dots connect
Speaker 3: and that's what we talk about. All these things on
Speaker 3: the outside seemed like such a harmless, kind thing, but
Speaker 3: when you peel back the layers of the onion, it
Speaker 3: doesn't have a a god fearing agenda that you know,
Speaker 3: we should be subjecting our children too.
Speaker 4: No. Yeah, And it's like, because like there's a thing
Speaker 4: about what is it basic human rights? Basic human rights?
Speaker 4: And then I was like you need food, water, shelter, right,
Speaker 4: and then there's four or five. But then they added
Speaker 4: one here up in Canada. I don't I think it
Speaker 4: was our Prime minister somehow. But do you have to
Speaker 4: have a Wi Fi connection? It's like a basic human
Speaker 4: right now? And I was like that was like five
Speaker 4: or six years ago. But it's like it's not really
Speaker 4: like I said, Like I said, I do think the
Speaker 4: Internet is a great tool, but it's like, are we
Speaker 4: really focusing on having an internet connection, a high speed
Speaker 4: internet connection in every household, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: as a basic human right, Like it's just and it's
Speaker 4: just so we can just waste more time on social
Speaker 4: media and just not spend time with family. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just this as an attack, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and they Eric's referring to Moslow's original hierarchy
Speaker 3: of needs, which was, according to him, the basic human
Speaker 3: needs self actualization, esteem, social needs, safety, security, and physiological needs,
Speaker 3: which is you know, shelter, water, food. And then about
Speaker 3: three years ago they they brought they created something Masslow's
Speaker 3: hierarchy of needs in the digital age, and at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the pyramid is Wi Fi.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's crazy, like you see those experiments.
Speaker 4: I haven't done them myself, but like you can have.
Speaker 4: They put these Wi Fi connections and they had these
Speaker 4: seedlings and it was it was a classroom in yeah
Speaker 4: the future was doing this experiment and it was like
Speaker 4: it would take six or seven days longer to Germany.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Some of these experiments that
Speaker 4: you know, as my kids get a bit older, I'd
Speaker 4: like to do them with them, right, And like it
Speaker 4: does another experiment I wanted to do about just like
Speaker 4: positive affirmations talking to you know the bowl you put
Speaker 4: it in a jar of rice.
Speaker 3: Yep, you can be talking nice to it and talk
Speaker 3: evil to or made to it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So like and like I said, like and then but
Speaker 4: there's like a new age thing that's saying like you
Speaker 4: can kind of manifest your own thing. But I don't
Speaker 4: think that. I don't think that's the case. I just
Speaker 4: do think like you know, we have you can manifest
Speaker 4: things to a certain extent, but it's through God that's
Speaker 4: doing it right, not yourself. Like this idea that we
Speaker 4: have God is in each one of us, or we
Speaker 4: are all God in the collective, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like it's again, that's more like a communist thing to me.
Speaker 4: To me, yeah, so and yeah, so I've been where
Speaker 4: was I so? So yeah, I'm getting back to the
Speaker 4: flat earth and it's really it really did strengthen my connection.
Speaker 4: But I mean my wife is she's not really into it,
Speaker 4: but she's a God fearing woman. And like I said,
Speaker 4: it's not it's not for everybody, but I'm sure like
Speaker 4: that that was another thing that I made me my
Speaker 4: belief in God be like I used to pray when
Speaker 4: I was like in my twenties for a wife, and
Speaker 4: then she came along, and I kind of sad. That
Speaker 4: really strengthened my faith in God because she really is
Speaker 4: a godsend because and she lets me do my my
Speaker 4: crazy conspiracy stuff. But it's she knows, she knows I'm
Speaker 4: not crazy, right, Like it's just so and like even
Speaker 4: when I was with with the COVID stuff, and you
Speaker 4: know how we all we just let's just look at
Speaker 4: the information. Let's look at the information. It just and
Speaker 4: it just became harder and harder to find. And it's
Speaker 4: like the same thing with the flat Earth. It's like
Speaker 4: it's hard to find this information. And then like NASA
Speaker 4: wants to, you know, give you all these pictures and
Speaker 4: you know, and then you like, I really do feel
Speaker 4: like that NASA is kind of it's like a like
Speaker 4: a it's like a cathedral, right, and like that Neil
Speaker 4: de Grasse Tyson, They're just like it reminds me of
Speaker 4: like and I don't I don't like bashing the Catholic
Speaker 4: Church too much, but you know, like we have the
Speaker 4: knowledge and we're going to tell you how it is,
Speaker 4: and you just don't understand it. You're you're a layman, right,
Speaker 4: And that's all these astrophysicists is like, this is you
Speaker 4: just don't understand that. You're a commoner. You don't get
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 3: Just trust us, right, the same thing we tell during COVID,
Speaker 3: trust us, don't research for yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then like Canada, like we have every country
Speaker 4: has a space program, and we you know, we're only
Speaker 4: forty million people besides of California, but we do have
Speaker 4: a And then you look at the budget for our
Speaker 4: space program and it's like, and we're so heavily taxed
Speaker 4: up here. It's this crazy like we pay like some
Speaker 4: of us are paying sixty five percent, right basically, so,
Speaker 4: and it's like even if they just and so why
Speaker 4: does it matter? Why does it matter? It's like, if
Speaker 4: we just scrapped the space program, you know, it would
Speaker 4: make it a lot easier. We can have nice roads
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean, focused on things that
Speaker 4: are more important.
Speaker 3: Well, here's a legitimate question, uh, and you can address
Speaker 3: it to NASA Spotnick or Canadian Space program. What have
Speaker 3: they done in the past We'll call it sixty years
Speaker 3: to actually better humanity in our world? Yeah, absolutely, Like,
Speaker 3: tell me one thing.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, no. I well, I think they invented the what
Speaker 4: was it? I don't I remember the one joke about
Speaker 4: is that NASA they've spent a whole bunch of money
Speaker 4: making a pen that could write upside doubts.
Speaker 3: Right, the famous Seinfeld episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean, and that's that's the thing. It's
Speaker 4: like we're we're we're terrified of meteors hitting us because
Speaker 4: we all watched Armageddon, that Bruce Willis movie, right, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we have to be yeah,
Speaker 4: we have to be fearful of this destruction. But you know,
Speaker 4: the Bible says, yeah, there is going to be a judgment, aim,
Speaker 4: there is going to be a destruction. And then like
Speaker 4: and then there's people that think it's my other brother.
Speaker 4: I got three brothers, right, and a sister. But he's
Speaker 4: like it's he's all about the aliens. Oh boy, the aliens.
Speaker 4: And it's like and and that's another thing. Why NASA
Speaker 4: and the space you know in the Alstra Crowley and
Speaker 4: they're trying to get everybody because it's like to detach
Speaker 4: us from God and give us all these other well
Speaker 4: what if? What if? Because our imaginations are the greatest weapon.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And really the science fiction stuff didn't
Speaker 3: really I mean it was there in the twenties, thirties
Speaker 3: and forties, but it didn't really pick up and you know,
Speaker 3: become mainstream until post World War Two, and then Star
Speaker 3: Wars and Star Trek and those type of things took
Speaker 3: children's minds to a whole new level and they accepted
Speaker 3: And I think all those things had to happen in
Speaker 3: order for them to accept the Space program, all the
Speaker 3: great space movies of the fifties, and then even Warner
Speaker 3: von Brown, Right, was he the one who wrote the
Speaker 3: book about Mars and the main protagonist was a guy
Speaker 3: named Elon And the rocket ship on the cover of
Speaker 3: the book look exactly like SpaceX's very first rocket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're probably right. Probably I don't know about that,
Speaker 4: but it's yeah. And like I was telling my one,
Speaker 4: my one brother, he's he said, I should make it
Speaker 4: as a comic bit or something like that, because it's
Speaker 4: people that want to make Star Trek reality, right, Like
Speaker 4: it was just a science fiction movie. And like nobody
Speaker 4: gets paid in the Star Trek's Like the Captain Kurk
Speaker 4: doesn't make any more money than the other guy. So
Speaker 4: I was like, but like, I don't even know if
Speaker 4: Elon Musk actually believes they're gonna put him on They're
Speaker 4: gonna go on to Mars, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like he's part of the club, he's an actor on
Speaker 3: the world stage. He knows there's Yeah, like I lived
Speaker 3: up far.
Speaker 4: I lived pretty far up north. I lived in Dawson Creek.
Speaker 4: But it's where's the where do they film all the
Speaker 4: Mars footage in Greenland?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 4: No, No, it's in Canon.
Speaker 3: Devin Island, Devon Island, Devon Island.
Speaker 4: And it's it's pretty desolate up there. But and then
Speaker 4: I found out another one because Jeff Bezos and Elon
Speaker 4: Musk were having a rift apparently, I don't really, I'm
Speaker 4: not on Twitter, I never have been. But because the
Speaker 4: one guy wants to have a floating city, right, and
Speaker 4: he was from Princeton. I think he was an engineer
Speaker 4: right from Princeton.
Speaker 3: Is that where it was, I believe so Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 4: But anyways, and he had one of his big professors
Speaker 4: what was that guy's name, Oh, I can't think of
Speaker 4: it right now. But they had an idea to have
Speaker 4: like a floating city, right, and so Jeff Bezos is
Speaker 4: trying to like make this city. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you could look it up, but his name was Gerald,
Speaker 4: Gerard Gerard something. But and then Elon Musk is.
Speaker 3: Oh Gerard O'Neill, Joe, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The O'Neal project. That's it, the O'Neal project. So if
Speaker 4: you look up the O'Neal project, and it's like, I
Speaker 4: think that they're going to actually try to do that.
Speaker 4: They're going to try and like put a floating city
Speaker 4: for the elite people, Like I'm not going to be invited,
Speaker 4: I know that, but it's going to be like hovering
Speaker 4: up near the firmament because they there is a firmament,
Speaker 4: but you can go up higher and high enough. Like
Speaker 4: what was that the space jump was seventy miles right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, seventy one seventy yeah, right
Speaker 3: around there.
Speaker 4: I keep doing in the kilometers. That's the hardest part
Speaker 4: about being Canadian, is yeah, and uh yeah, like so
Speaker 4: like I don't even think it's but you know he's
Speaker 4: Elon Musk is a government contractor, and he's he likes
Speaker 4: to make money, right, and I'm just gonna just get
Speaker 4: government funding for his space programs. But then he's gonna
Speaker 4: make cars and do whatever else, right, so and uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not totally against electric cars.
Speaker 3: It's called the O'Neill cylinder and cylinder, that's it. It
Speaker 3: is a space settlement concept proposed by American physicist Gerald
Speaker 3: O'Neill in his nineteen seventy six book The High Frontier
Speaker 3: Human Colonies in Space, and he claims or propose the
Speaker 3: colonization of space for a twenty first century using materials
Speaker 3: extracted from the Moon and later from asteroids. If that's
Speaker 3: not some fantasy stuff, I don't know what is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean the thing is is like I
Speaker 4: think Jeff Bezos wants to do something like that, right,
Speaker 4: and like, but it would be crazy to just but
Speaker 4: they're going to get it from the Earth, right, And
Speaker 4: so maybe they want to use all this materials and
Speaker 4: not let everyone else have houses. Is that why they
Speaker 4: want to get the population down? I'm not sure, but yeah,
Speaker 4: and then oh, and then like there was a couple
Speaker 4: of scriptures because I think for me, really the Bible
Speaker 4: really is my biggest proof. So like in the Flatters community,
Speaker 4: there is a lot to do with the scientific aspects
Speaker 4: of it, like yeah, the water, the oceans are all level.
Speaker 4: So it's like, how you tell me that an earth
Speaker 4: that is eighty percent water or seventy percent water is
Speaker 4: a ball? Right? Like, so the pictures nothing, None of
Speaker 4: the pictures are real. Right. So and then when you
Speaker 4: look at and I think it's so funny because I
Speaker 4: talk to people in my congregation and then they say, well, no,
Speaker 4: but God said it was a ball, right is an Isaiah? Right?
Speaker 4: And then you look and it says the circle, the
Speaker 4: circle of the earth. And then they try to tell
Speaker 4: me that, well, no, the Hebrew language never had a
Speaker 4: word for ball. And then you look in like another
Speaker 4: one in Isaiah. I wrote it down to Isaiah twenty
Speaker 4: two eighteen and it uses ball. So there's two different words, right.
Speaker 4: So but we just kind of I don't know. And
Speaker 4: that's the thing, like the indoctrination from early childhood. Right,
Speaker 4: So you read the Bible, then you're just but you
Speaker 4: have this scientific scientism influence right as you're reading it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't connect, so like and that's the problem. And
Speaker 4: then like they say, you're, well, you're anti science. It's
Speaker 4: like no, no, I'm like I really am all to
Speaker 4: do with science. I'm just not really into astrophysics.
Speaker 3: And that's a fair point, and you're spot on twenty
Speaker 3: two eighteen from Isaiah Isaiah, pardon me, and from the
Speaker 3: King James version says he will surely violently turn and
Speaker 3: toss the like a ball into a large country. There
Speaker 3: shall thou die, and the chariots of that glory shall
Speaker 3: be the shame of the Lord's house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so oh, my son's a week. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 6: then what was what was the other.
Speaker 4: Thing I had written down here and cultivated ignorance? That
Speaker 4: was another couple of things that I wrote down. And
Speaker 4: it's like, and that's the thing about these algorithms that
Speaker 4: we have to be careful of. Like I just don't
Speaker 4: I don't even like to just keep clicking what they
Speaker 4: showed me. Like I try to make it a point
Speaker 4: to just go into the search and use my own
Speaker 4: get my own thinking, going right, my own thoughts, because
Speaker 4: they just tried to They just they're cultivating it, right,
Speaker 4: and they send you down these different avenues.
Speaker 3: Have just yeah, that's important, especially when you're searching, when
Speaker 3: when you're researching. You know, if you go to Google
Speaker 3: and you put in flat Earth and you look at
Speaker 3: the very first entry, you will never research flat Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's going to present things for you. And cultivated ignorance
Speaker 3: is exactly that, the act of shielding oneself from ideas
Speaker 3: that could challenge one sense of self. And I think
Speaker 3: that's that's exactly one of the reasons people refuse to
Speaker 3: go down and research these things because they know it
Speaker 3: will challenge everything that they've been brought up to believe
Speaker 3: in there, no matter how old they are, twenty thirty, forty, fifty,
Speaker 3: sixty years and it's a lot and it's too much
Speaker 3: for some people to swallow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like that's the thing that's like, and then
Speaker 4: you have to be accountable, like what I have to
Speaker 4: be accountable for my options, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And it's just it's too much for a lot of
Speaker 4: people to bear. So they just want to, you know,
Speaker 4: live in the moment and not really worry about the future.
Speaker 4: And and that's why people don't want to have kids.
Speaker 4: And I just I think it's kind of because I
Speaker 4: I wasn't around in the thirties, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: people were saying, oh, how could you bring kids into
Speaker 4: this world? How can you bring kids into this world?
Speaker 4: And then I think they were probably saying it around
Speaker 4: the sixties, and then they were saying in the nineties,
Speaker 4: and now they're saying it to like, I don't know
Speaker 4: how you do it. It's so expensive to have kids,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, it's not really too expensive. I mean,
Speaker 4: you want to send them to a university to be
Speaker 4: in doctrinate, but I think I want to he wants
Speaker 4: to be an engineer. That's that's pretty good, But that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you two questions. Number one, have
Speaker 3: you had any successes in sharing flat Earth with others?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Actually, the my one friend who kind of he's
Speaker 4: a seventy Adventist and he's I've been going to their
Speaker 4: church and he was yeah, he's like trying to show
Speaker 4: me this stuff. He's like, hey, Eric, I got this
Speaker 4: stuff on my old laptop, right, He's got these files downloaded,
Speaker 4: and he's like, yeah, I don't I don't think we
Speaker 4: landed on the moon. I thought he was going to
Speaker 4: show me something that I didn't really know. But I
Speaker 4: didn't even realize how much of a conspiracy there as
Speaker 4: I am, because he's like he's just finding out about this,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I've known this for a long time.
Speaker 4: But so and then, uh so he didn't really show
Speaker 4: me anything I didn't already know, but it kind of
Speaker 4: opened up to like, okay, so and then I was
Speaker 4: kind of sharing them with this, Yeah, I think the
Speaker 4: earth is splat and I was showing on these scriptures
Speaker 4: like Isaiah forty like the Circle.
Speaker 3: Of the Earth yep.
Speaker 4: And but anyways, so just recently he's he's went off
Speaker 4: to his uh wife's. His wife's from a country called
Speaker 4: Cannabis and something in the south specific there it's like
Speaker 4: two and a half hours north or sorry, two and
Speaker 4: a half hours south of Hawaii and then north of
Speaker 4: Fiji a little bit. Yeah, and that's interesting too, like
Speaker 4: she's well, she's forty six now, but she remembers in
Speaker 4: school they were saying back in the nineties that her
Speaker 4: country is going to be underwater. And now she goes
Speaker 4: there and like she's showing her kids like, yeah, they
Speaker 4: we used to swim over there, and now there's like
Speaker 4: because it's like a coral athol, so that the coral
Speaker 4: reefs actually coming out of the ocean, so it's actually rising.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so this guy, he says to me, you
Speaker 4: know what, Eric, you're there's no planets in the Bible,
Speaker 4: because I think they'd mentioned Saturn and a couple other
Speaker 4: like those wandering stars, right, but that's those. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: he's coming around. And then also my brother Dustin, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was telling him too about it and he's but
Speaker 4: he's like, well, I think there might be aliens. And
Speaker 4: I was like, well, you realize aliens and angels are
Speaker 4: the same thing. And I don't know for certain I
Speaker 4: have it's my belief right, but like the thing is,
Speaker 4: is like why not try, Like if there is going
Speaker 4: to be a judgment day, I want to at least
Speaker 4: make the case. Like I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 4: to be saved or not, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So he's kind of looking into it, and but it's
Speaker 4: like you have to do your own research. You can't
Speaker 4: tell anybody, right, So that's what I just tell him,
Speaker 4: is like you have to look into it for yourself.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say, and I try to tell that
Speaker 3: to the audience all the time. You know everything we say,
Speaker 3: take it and research it for yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then my motto in life too is to
Speaker 4: never think that I know everything right, Like what I've
Speaker 4: and I remember my dad saying that too, Like the
Speaker 4: minute you think you know everything, that's the saddest day
Speaker 4: of your life.
Speaker 3: Is I learned something new every single day and you
Speaker 3: have to be willing to say you were wrong as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and accept new information and and and you know, decide
Speaker 3: from there. Uh did did you hit all of your
Speaker 3: silver bullets?
Speaker 4: No? No, I I still have I still have some. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember. Can I just say one last thing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I remember because when I first was like started telling
Speaker 4: people that I'm a flat earther and kind of coming
Speaker 4: out of the closet, they were you know a lot
Speaker 4: of people were making fun of me. And then anyway,
Speaker 4: so and then I had this kind of I kind
Speaker 4: of coined this phrase. And I don't know if I because,
Speaker 4: like you said, you get a lot of information the
Speaker 4: store in your head. You don't know where you get
Speaker 4: it from. But it goes like, uh, some people call
Speaker 4: it think I'm a moron, or thinking the earth is flat.
Speaker 4: These same people think that flat is a shape because
Speaker 4: it's like the flat isn't a shape, right, Like so
Speaker 4: there's I kind of thought that.
Speaker 3: Was more of a term than a shape, right yeah.
Speaker 4: Because like we I don't know if it's a plane
Speaker 4: that goes on forever and ever and ever, I don't
Speaker 4: like I do know, it's not a plate of you know,
Speaker 4: like the flat of the society claims.
Speaker 3: Right where you can fall off the edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ice dangling off into space is like, no,
Speaker 4: it's a space is what's we don't know? And the
Speaker 4: sun we don't know. So I got some other silver balls,
Speaker 4: like the fact that the ground positioning system also known
Speaker 4: as the Global Positioning System doesn't always work.
Speaker 3: Nope, it sure doesn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, high in the mountains. And then like people I
Speaker 4: don't have the money to sail around the world, but
Speaker 4: some people in the Caribbean, yeah, and yeah flying to
Speaker 4: the Philippines and yeah, and seeing the sun and the
Speaker 4: moon in the opposite in the sky and like praying
Speaker 4: about it and like it was just like I said,
Speaker 4: is that God shown me? I believe that, right. And
Speaker 4: then also the.
Speaker 7: The weather balloon, the Chinese weather balloon that flew over
Speaker 7: did a fly over Canada, United States as well, remember
Speaker 7: that she was like, yeah, a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: And then they shot it down in Alaska and then
Speaker 4: nobody found any of the because they probably said star
Speaker 4: choice or express view or something like that on the
Speaker 4: satellite YEP. And the founders of NASA. Yeah, when you
Speaker 4: look into like and how they were all occultist and.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah TRIPL. You know a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't really. I think I mentioned that way back in
Speaker 3: like episode two. It was Jack Parsons Laboratories and he
Speaker 3: was an occultist as well as he was what's the
Speaker 3: dynetics guy, l Ron Hubbard and Alistair Crowley. Those were
Speaker 3: the original founders of JPL which became NASA, and those
Speaker 3: things cannot be ignored.
Speaker 4: No, and then the scientist what was his on his tombstone?
Speaker 4: So that really cemented it for me too, is I
Speaker 4: think it's a Psalm's nineteen one Thoms nineteen, Yeah, Psalms
Speaker 4: nineteen my other ones, Like I said, it's for me,
Speaker 4: it is a lot to do with the Bible and
Speaker 4: what the Bible says, because I think I do think
Speaker 4: that they weren't cavemen. I think they were intelligent, like
Speaker 4: maybe more so they maybe they had different technology than
Speaker 4: we did, like before the before the flood and the nephlow.
Speaker 4: And that's another one, like my brother about aliens. It's
Speaker 4: like the nephilow. Yeah, they came down and they kind
Speaker 4: of gave people the ideas of women wearing makeup and
Speaker 4: all this making fire and making weapons and you know,
Speaker 4: all this evil stuff. It was all these Nephilim and so,
Speaker 4: and that's the Bible story in Joshua when he's and
Speaker 4: he wants the sun and the moon to stop so
Speaker 4: they can continue to fight in this war. Right. So
Speaker 4: that was a and it's like, how is it going
Speaker 4: to stop? That would mean that the earth right.
Speaker 3: Right, everybody go floating off right exactly.
Speaker 4: So like that doesn't Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: And then like that's the thing, so like they want
Speaker 4: to and that's that's another example of showing that the
Speaker 4: the Bible is all just fairy tales with this heliocentric model, right,
Speaker 4: and it's yeah. So and another one for me was
Speaker 4: like yeah, and I think it was a previous guest,
Speaker 4: but this the shadows underneath the clouds when this when
Speaker 4: the in the morning, right when the sun and you're like,
Speaker 4: if it's ninety three million miles away, and like there
Speaker 4: shouldn't be shadows underneath these clouds, right, But I mean
Speaker 4: even if they're so low, right, because these suddenly, So
Speaker 4: it just makes me think that the sun is definitely
Speaker 4: more local. It's you know what I mean, it's these
Speaker 4: days huge numbers, the crepuscular race, yeah, the compuscular rays.
Speaker 4: So those are those are some silver bullets for me.
Speaker 3: And then I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you one other thing that did happen
Speaker 4: to me? I wrote it down just a couple maybe
Speaker 4: a year to ago. I was trying to give your
Speaker 4: podcast because I listened to it on Spotify and I
Speaker 4: was trying to give it a five star rating and
Speaker 4: it wouldn't work. Really kept trying, kept trying like three
Speaker 4: or four different times, and it wouldn't work. So so
Speaker 4: then I went to another podcast I listened to and
Speaker 4: gave it a five star rating, and then it worked. Seriously, yeah,
Speaker 4: And then I went back to yours and then it
Speaker 4: gave you a five star rating. But it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's pretty easy to do. And then
Speaker 4: I went to another podcast and then I gave that
Speaker 4: one a five star ratings, so I went back and
Speaker 4: then it then it worked because I tried like three
Speaker 4: times and I was like and then again, like sometimes
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is going, what's going on here, right.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Yeah, well I appreciate it. You were able
Speaker 3: to finally get the five star review.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did. And yeah and then that I
Speaker 4: said that all my six. Yeah that's six and that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Well we're we're closing in on the last few minutes here.
Speaker 3: So I did want to give you a chance if
Speaker 3: there there was anything that you hadn't had a chance
Speaker 3: to cover yet that you would like to and that
Speaker 3: would be a great opportunity.
Speaker 4: No, just like I I want to get into it,
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: Just like the.
Speaker 4: The Trinity, I'm really not into the Trinity. And like
Speaker 4: that's what I remember I was telling you I was
Speaker 4: kind of a heretic. So it's like the Sun worship,
Speaker 4: and I guess so Hellenistic. It was that the Hellenistic
Speaker 4: Jews that were trying to had really influenced by the
Speaker 4: Greek culture and they were trying to put into the
Speaker 4: into Christianity. And but the thing is like I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't have all the facts. And remember my mother
Speaker 4: said to me, like doesn't matter who you are, if
Speaker 4: you're seekh or a Hindu, or Protestant or a Catholic,
Speaker 4: these people as long as one thing you have in
Speaker 4: common is you're seeking your relationship with your creator. So nuts,
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: So well well done. I appreciate all your time and
Speaker 3: your input, and I know you've been through a lot
Speaker 3: over the last couple of months. We've been chatting back
Speaker 3: and forth, and you know, we'll continue to pray for
Speaker 3: your daughter. All the best with her, and please do
Speaker 3: stay in touch, and you know we appreciate all your
Speaker 3: input and thanks again for joining us today on this
Speaker 3: early morning, on this Saturday, January fourth.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, it was great. Like I've I've always wanted
Speaker 4: to come on your podcast, and I was, you know, nervous,
Speaker 4: never been on a podcast before. But I think it
Speaker 4: is great for people to just you know, share their
Speaker 4: experience and kind of get out and you know, get
Speaker 4: on a podcast and try to help people because I
Speaker 4: think these it's a great way to communicate long form
Speaker 4: like the short form stuff is it's it works too.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm just glad to have an opportunity. And
Speaker 4: I mean I tried to have some notes and I
Speaker 4: tried to but that's part of my thing is I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of get scattered sometimes.
Speaker 3: Well you did a tremendous job, and I'm just shocked
Speaker 3: at you know, ninety percent of the people who come
Speaker 3: on here, it's the first time they've ever done anything
Speaker 3: like this, and everybody does so well. So again, thank
Speaker 3: you again for joining us, and so all the listeners,
Speaker 3: thank you for your continued support. Just a heads up,
Speaker 3: I guess it's going to be Sunday, January twelfth will
Speaker 3: probably be an off week for us, so the podcast
Speaker 3: will resume on January the nineteenth. We've had a podcast
Speaker 3: i think every single week for the last I think
Speaker 3: since May or June, so we're gonna take the week off.
Speaker 3: I've got a very busy week next week, but we'll
Speaker 3: pick back on the nineteenth of January. For Eric, I'm
Speaker 3: George God Bless you all. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: listening and supporting the podcast. Stop by the website, the
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Speaker 3: us as a guest, it is f E Files Guests
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. For Eric, I'm George God bless
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