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<v Speaker 1>The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll?

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<v Speaker 3>The question why.

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<v Speaker 2>The stories told and left behind in shadows where the

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<v Speaker 2>truth we find. They built their tails on grafts and

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<v Speaker 2>lines on theories.

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<v Speaker 3>They stake their designed.

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<v Speaker 2>Rising break.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back truthseekers from around the world. It's time for

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<v Speaker 3>another edition of The Flat Earth Files. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 3>is always George Hoobs. We're recording on the Saturday, January

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth, twenty twenty five. I hope everybody had a

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<v Speaker 3>without further ado. Where it's about I think four fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five am in British Columbia, Canada. Our guest today is Eric.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Eric, Good morning George. A great conversation prior

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<v Speaker 3>to hitting the record button. And I know you have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of information to share with the audience, so

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<v Speaker 3>please introduce yourself to the audience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, my name is Eric Sweeter. I'm I'm Macadian. I

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<v Speaker 4>live in Barrier. It's just a small small town north

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<v Speaker 4>of Kamloops. It's just like a live We think we

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<v Speaker 4>have eighteen hundred people according to the census, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty small. So sick. I like it because you could

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<v Speaker 4>go to the grocery store and you'll see the same people.

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<v Speaker 4>So especially and when when you live in a a

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<v Speaker 4>time in our world where it's like you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who is you know, an enemy or whatever. Right, Like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just so you know people, we recognized vehicles that

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<v Speaker 4>come and see into your neighborhood and so we kind

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<v Speaker 4>of community community watch going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Three kids. I got three kids and we just had one.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to be on their podcast earlier. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>my baby was born November thirteenth, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to do the podcast really because it's they're all

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sou to tell us a little bit about your journey

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<v Speaker 3>to the truth. I know you had mentioned, uh, you

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<v Speaker 3>you grew up in a family Jove witness, and you

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<v Speaker 3>had mentioned while they necessarily weren't, as we say, conspiracy theorists,

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<v Speaker 3>they did understand the world of lives we lived in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I would say, yeah, I was raised Joe's Witness,

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<v Speaker 4>and they never really pressured me to, you know, pursue it.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have to like make the truth your own?

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<v Speaker 4>But it did help me as a child to like

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<v Speaker 4>to know, to be to be aware and to be

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<v Speaker 4>skeptical of, you know, things that are like we're in

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<v Speaker 4>Satan system, right. So, like my dad, like I remember

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<v Speaker 4>my dad's was never really into conspiracies and going into

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<v Speaker 4>the library and getting all this information in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>before the Internet, but he was he was aware of

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<v Speaker 4>like he fully believed that Kennedy was assassinated by the

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<v Speaker 4>government and there's evil things all around us, right, so

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<v Speaker 4>and and then like oh sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you're good go ahead, continue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then so I didn't really follow it too

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<v Speaker 4>well because I was like, of course, I was went

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<v Speaker 4>to public school, so they were trying to tell me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there we were the the globe is tilted

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<v Speaker 4>a certain degree, so it just tilts two more degrees,

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<v Speaker 4>the son would just cook us. And if it tilts

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<v Speaker 4>another way, it's going to freeze to death. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>I think, that's really why I had a hard time

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<v Speaker 4>with my connection with God, because it just didn't make

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<v Speaker 4>any sense, right, And now as you get older, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>finally starting to realize that, you know, like I remember

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<v Speaker 4>my brother was studying black holes, and it just you

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<v Speaker 4>look into all this stuff and it just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>any sense at all. Right, So it's like, and now

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<v Speaker 4>he is, of course an atheist and getting full of tattoos,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know. I joke about wanting to work

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<v Speaker 4>at an old folks home in like fifty years when

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<v Speaker 4>they're all sleeve tattooed and wrink it up and going

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<v Speaker 4>to be something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is. And that is something that I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>about with all the information that is used in the

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<v Speaker 3>education system to hide God. And we truly do live

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<v Speaker 3>in a world where what was the phrase, do what

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<v Speaker 3>thou art, do what thou want the Aleister Crowley, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just people living for themselves. You see the decline

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<v Speaker 3>of people wanting to have children, people wanting to live

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<v Speaker 3>for themselves, and there's no greater joy. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you could attest as well as having a child. And

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<v Speaker 3>you think back to these things, and I know we've

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned them before, but the way they hide God through

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<v Speaker 3>heliocentrism and evolution and the Big Bang theory, so on

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth with scientism, I wonder if that has

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<v Speaker 3>a subconscious leaning of keeping people away from God.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh, I agree, it's that's the that's the main thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because they don't want to be accountable, they don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to like its.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing for me was just in the last

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<v Speaker 4>three or four years, I I met up with this

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<v Speaker 4>friend of mine. He's, uh, he served he's still serving

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<v Speaker 4>in the Canadian military since like the nineties, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's served in Iraq in different places. And he was

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<v Speaker 4>telling me like he's like I believe the earth is

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<v Speaker 4>six thousand years old or you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the flood happened and day was like two thousand years,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, approximately six seven thousand years old. And I,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, before I would just laugh and like, what

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<v Speaker 4>are you talking about, because even like as Job's witnessed,

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<v Speaker 4>they would they would believe in the gap theory, like

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<v Speaker 4>there may have been dinosaurs, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Like the Earth was created in seven days, but there

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<v Speaker 4>could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Less.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, yeah, there could be you know, millions of years

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<v Speaker 4>between each day, right, And so instead of just looking

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<v Speaker 4>at that, and I think this was even before I

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<v Speaker 4>came to flat Earth, but just that kind of opened

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<v Speaker 4>up my mind to like, Okay, so this guy's believes

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<v Speaker 4>in the Bible. He's been around the world, he's seen things,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been you know, and so I just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>made me think, okay, so maybe I should just look

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<v Speaker 4>at the Bible more literally, right, yep. And then so

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<v Speaker 4>that really helped me. It's like because like instead of

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<v Speaker 4>just laughing, you know what I'm saying, like, because I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I realized, Like, it's easier to believe

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<v Speaker 4>sixty billion years, right, if you make the numbers bigger,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a lot more. It's easier for people to for

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<v Speaker 4>their palette, you know what I'm saying. So like this,

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<v Speaker 4>then the sun is they used to say it was

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<v Speaker 4>thirty or sixty million, and now it's ninety three million,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? And then so and then yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at the Bible and you look at

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<v Speaker 4>it more literally and it's like, no, the sun is

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<v Speaker 4>not a star, right, and we don't really know what

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<v Speaker 4>the sun is, and like even what happened to this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the flatter that what was it called the the final.

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<v Speaker 4>Finalment, the final experiment? Yeah, and so that is that's

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<v Speaker 4>again it's like testing your your beliefs. Belief in faith

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<v Speaker 4>is the same thing, right, Like, yep, so was it faked?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I can really follow that Austin wits it and

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<v Speaker 4>it's we don't know what the sun is and whether

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<v Speaker 4>it was like it really is still up in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they went down there and I think there

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<v Speaker 4>was a twenty four hour son, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. I think it was irrespond. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>irresponsible for them to call it the final experiment because

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<v Speaker 3>it still doesn't explain us being able to see too far.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't explain that water still finds its level and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all the other things is that we have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with the the temperature of the moon being cooler,

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<v Speaker 3>the light and all the other things that we've cited

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<v Speaker 3>over the years. Because there's a twenty four hour sun,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it. Game over. You know, there's no such no

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<v Speaker 3>flatter back to the globe. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true. That's and you know what. And then

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<v Speaker 4>one thing also I wanted to point out is like,

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<v Speaker 4>because we went through COVID and I live in a

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<v Speaker 4>province in Canada, which is I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>go into some details, like our city, our main city

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<v Speaker 4>of Vancouver, they have they were MANUFC, Like they have

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<v Speaker 4>one of the leading companies that manufacture the what's it

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<v Speaker 4>the lipids?

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<v Speaker 3>What are they call oh yeah, no, for the medicine

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<v Speaker 4>It's called the biotech company ACTS, yeah, therapeutics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, so they were making they were it's what were

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<v Speaker 4>It was the vehicle for the vaccines to be delivered, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so they could use them for all different kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 4>not just the mRNA. So like this these companies were

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<v Speaker 4>making lots and lots of money. So it's like it

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<v Speaker 4>was just wild, like they were pushing it for the

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<v Speaker 4>children to get vaccinated, and it just kept pushing it,

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<v Speaker 4>pushing it, and then our neighboring province was our neighboring

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<v Speaker 4>province was stopping it, like okay, so you no longer

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<v Speaker 4>have to be vaccinated, but they could just kept going

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<v Speaker 4>for like it was like another year almost. It was wild. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the reason I brought that up is

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<v Speaker 4>because like when you when you typed in t FE

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<v Speaker 4>into YouTube, it would just bring up and they would

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<v Speaker 4>be hundreds and hundreds of or the first five or

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<v Speaker 4>six pages would all be about this final experiment right

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<v Speaker 4>when we But then if you before this, you would

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<v Speaker 4>type it in anything flat Earth and it would just

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<v Speaker 4>be debunking and mockery and you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so like I kind of use that YouTube as

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<v Speaker 4>e gauged what is what is what they want you

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<v Speaker 4>to see and what they don't want you to see

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<v Speaker 4>because like you couldn't. And then that's when I found out,

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<v Speaker 4>like I started going on Rumble and different platforms because

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<v Speaker 4>like the censorship and what they want you to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's they're really molding your minds and you get into

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<v Speaker 4>these silos, right, that's just it's very difficult to navigate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you mentioned that you you'd mentioned before the

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<v Speaker 3>program or before we started recording, that Vancouver and BC

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of uh California two point zero, But then

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<v Speaker 3>you had mentioned the province next to you, which is Alberta,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is more not exactly, but that resembles Texas

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<v Speaker 3>more conservative beliefs. They have the rodeos, that the Calgary

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's that's one hundred percent acurate. I got a

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<v Speaker 4>and it's it's kind of like it's and then it's

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<v Speaker 4>weird like because Alberta and then the northern BC, like

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<v Speaker 4>and like, I don't know, I'm glad that this woke

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It's just but at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 3>Too much, right exactly, that that is something you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be careful of. You just don't want to send them,

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<v Speaker 3>send them into the world without having a little uh,

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. That's what of Like even when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>That was exactly my story. I turned eighteen and I

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<v Speaker 3>of things we've talked about already before we get too

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<v Speaker 3>far ahead. As far as the Joe Jehovah's Witness, what

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't really remember. They had like these

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<v Speaker 4>them and stuff like that, like, and it was just

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<v Speaker 4>weren't into evolution, right, They were trying to preach the

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<v Speaker 4>creation and just how you know, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>there's some parts of Christianity right that still you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like even Catholicism, right, they have that was it? The

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<v Speaker 3>Can't make this stuff, I mean yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they were just trying to, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? Or it could because they and

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<v Speaker 4>then I tell this about because I think they just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to show that so that they could keep their followers,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, And because there's no other

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<v Speaker 4>all this kind of stuff and how God created all

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff. And it's like when you read the Bible,

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<v Speaker 4>and then that's the thing too. It's like it's clearly

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<v Speaker 4>in the Bible that there's a firmament, right, and so

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<v Speaker 4>and then you look at and you get these the

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<v Speaker 4>in the stars and then you don't see what they

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<v Speaker 4>see with the Hubble telescope, right, that's right. So they

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<v Speaker 4>literally look like glimmering, you know, lights in water.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, they look like they're shimmering, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So and then yeah, of course you have to have

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<v Speaker 4>the Hubble telescope in order to see them more clearly.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just like whatever, it's just this Satan's trying

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<v Speaker 3>Right, certainly is and he's doing that twenty four seven

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<v Speaker 3>three sixty five I tell people that if he spent

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<v Speaker 3>forty days and forty nights with Jesus, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>one person who was not flawed to have walked the earth,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine what he's doing to us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the other Yeah, the other question I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>ask you was, you know, you had mentioned that your

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<v Speaker 3>your parents were aware that Kennedy was probably killed by

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<v Speaker 3>the government. What were their thoughts on the moon landing?

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<v Speaker 1>What were their thoughts on the moon landing? I don't, yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 1>like the thing is like they didn't really talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it too much, but like I don't know they are

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<v Speaker 1>They just felt like the government was I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are good people in the government, but it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't people go there with good intentions.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you get then you realize behind closed doors,

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<v Speaker 4>like this is the this is a different club, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's impossible to slay the beast. It truly is. The

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<v Speaker 3>epic proportion of the enemy within the gates is unfathomable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So like they, like I said, they were trying to

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<v Speaker 4>like I think they might have believed that they were

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<v Speaker 4>the moon landing, but I never did, Like you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying they just taught me to just question everything.

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<v Speaker 4>So like I really, like, I don't I never really

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<v Speaker 4>considered myself a conspiracy theorist until, like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's kind of like I used to feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I was a liberal and then they just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>kept progressing and left me behind it. Now I'm a conservative, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like if you don't go along with this mainstream,

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<v Speaker 4>you start questioning things, then they're going to call you

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<v Speaker 4>a conspiracy theorist. So it's like, you know, even with

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<v Speaker 4>the blood transfusions, like that was a big thing with

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<v Speaker 4>the the Joe's Witnesses in the eighties, right, not to

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<v Speaker 4>get blood transfusions, and then of course it was like

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<v Speaker 4>the eighties and nineties, like who is the president from

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<v Speaker 4>Arkansas there, Bill Clinton? And then they were getting blood

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<v Speaker 4>transfi they were getting blood donations from the prisoners, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that was the real thing. And so so

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<v Speaker 4>that's there are reasons to be skeptical, right, and then

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of goes into too Like my mother she

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<v Speaker 4>had like literally thirteen major surgeries right here in Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>and she never took blood for any of them. And

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<v Speaker 4>like she had her colone removed, she had like pins

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<v Speaker 4>in her spine. There's all sorts of major surgery, is right,

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<v Speaker 4>like knee replacements, and it's just like kind of messy doctors. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like they, Yeah, remember one time she had to

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<v Speaker 4>in Vancouver. They had to go to a doctor in

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<v Speaker 4>Calgary because they just didn't want to do it right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then sure enough she had the surgery is and

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<v Speaker 4>then it was it all went well, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's why anytime you face something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good to get two or three what do you

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<v Speaker 3>call it, You go go to two or three different

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<v Speaker 3>doctors and get an opinion from them. And we had

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned again we had an interesting conversation before we hit

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<v Speaker 3>the record button. Anytime something becomes for profit, the consumer

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<v Speaker 3>does not benefit from it. And that exactly what the

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<v Speaker 3>medical industry has become for profit and we are the

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<v Speaker 3>consumer and healthy people do not make for a good

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<v Speaker 3>business model for the political industry, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and like and then in Canada we have like

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<v Speaker 4>it's like public medical right, so it's like it's all

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<v Speaker 4>government yep. So the doctors are not they're paid for

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<v Speaker 4>by they're paid by the government, but then they think

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<v Speaker 4>they also, but they get who is paying taxes. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the pharmaceutical companies, right, and so they're literally so it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, how how is that happening that they're not

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<v Speaker 4>privatized but they can still have this influence. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>like because the bureaucracy, right, the ones that are running

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<v Speaker 4>the the medical system or getting you know, they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to keep their funding and stuff like that. So we

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<v Speaker 4>hear a lot of the times it's like, we have

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<v Speaker 4>this budget, so we have to spend it, right. If

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<v Speaker 4>we don't use it, we lose it. And so this

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<v Speaker 4>you hear this in the school system, in our medical

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<v Speaker 4>system quite a bit. So like even if you had

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<v Speaker 4>make keep the books kind of you know what i mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like save some money or you know, manage it properly, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just possible because it's just in every different department

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<v Speaker 4>in your whole ministry, they're all just like spending their

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<v Speaker 3>Can, right, absolutely, And most of those budgets have a

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<v Speaker 3>that they're budgeted out for the year. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't use it, you'll lose it and you'll actually have

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then, like I was telling you before we

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<v Speaker 4>was like they were like they got a diagnosis from

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<v Speaker 4>a biopsy result on the Monday, and then they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to do surgery on the Wednesday. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is all happened, and then they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>she was totally she's been she was doing fine, she

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<v Speaker 4>was doing she had she has this disease called Hurts

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<v Speaker 4>Sprung's disease, right, so it's it's something to do with

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<v Speaker 4>her large and colon. She doesn't have the ganglion cells.

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<v Speaker 4>So but like the thing is, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 4>if the biopsy results were accurate, right, because that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking to myself, is like, so if I

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<v Speaker 4>lived in the States, I could go to another hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>do biopsies on my kid all the time either, because

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<v Speaker 4>the recto biopsy is it's very dangerous, right because you

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<v Speaker 4>can get into the bloodstream and stuff like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking like right now, she's doing fine and

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<v Speaker 4>eating because she has the appetite, and there's so there

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<v Speaker 4>not lethargic, just her stomach has not distended. So we

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<v Speaker 4>have like these seven seven or eight things that we

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<v Speaker 4>have to watch out for, but and she's been totally fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just like do they And I just had

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<v Speaker 4>a feeling like did they just want to do the

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<v Speaker 4>surgery just for more practice? Because they it's a wonderful hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>and like I understand that they do save lives and

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<v Speaker 4>there's surgery is necessary of course a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 4>but it should be like the last thing you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do, right because and then it's just weird and

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<v Speaker 4>like like I was praying and you really don't know

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<v Speaker 4>strengthens my faith that there is a god if this

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<v Speaker 4>she could just and again, and because I just don't

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<v Speaker 4>think I don't believe that the biopsy, but like I

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<v Speaker 4>just like more and more evidence all the time. And

421
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<v Speaker 4>then I talk to other people that have had misdiagnosis

422
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that. So it's like, I don't know,

423
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 4>it's not easy living here, but I mean beautiful, it's

424
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<v Speaker 4>beautiful living here.

425
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I can't imagine how beautiful it is up there.

426
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 3>But again, we do live in a world that is

427
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 3>run by Satan. And yeah, nine well we'll say ninety

428
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:43.960
<v Speaker 3>eight percent of the people on the earth, they're genuinely

429
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 3>good people who just want to provide for their family. Yeah,

430
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 3>but unfortunately the governments are the one that make our

431
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.279
<v Speaker 3>lives all miserable. And and again once government gets involved

432
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>in healthcare on top of the corporations, we're in big trouble.

433
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to I want.

434
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 4>To say one thing, like obviously, these these doctors did

435
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 4>not have like they had the best of intentions, right,

436
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 4>and I just but I just do know that they're

437
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 4>they're they don't have a belief in God, they don't,

438
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, And they're just all about

439
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 4>the science, and like they cannot ignore these test results,

440
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 4>right because they have a license and it's their livelihood

441
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 4>on absolutely, so they're trying to do the best. But like,

442
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 4>like I kind of have a knack for reading people,

443
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.319
<v Speaker 4>and like I was talking to the head doctor and

444
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.440
<v Speaker 4>I did I did make I wrote him an email saying, like,

445
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't feel like you're pressuring me at all,

446
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 4>but I did feel some pressure from others in the hospital.

447
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 4>So anyways, it's just so it was just a very

448
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 4>traumatic experience. And I had a lot of help from

449
00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 4>our little church community here and I do attend a church.

450
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a member, but but they're like a Seven

451
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 4>day Adventists.

452
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 3>So that's good to have a community to fall back

453
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 3>on when ye're going through a trying time like that,

454
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>to have a shoulder to lean on and and to

455
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.720
<v Speaker 3>run information pass you know that you never know who

456
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 3>has experienced something similar to what you've gone through before

457
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 3>and they can provide you advice.

458
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like you need a community like this idea of

459
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 4>everyone just going to church, like following on YouTube, you

460
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 4>know these ministries on YouTube, like like again, like this,

461
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 4>the internet is a useful tool, like the fact that

462
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 4>we're able to have a conversation.

463
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 3>It's a supplemental tool. It should be used as a

464
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 3>supplemental tool, not a primary tool.

465
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Exactly. Yeah, It's like I think the same thing with

466
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 4>like a microwave. Like the microwave is a great invention,

467
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 4>but it's directly connected to obesity because.

468
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 3>You should be cooking every meal in it. Yeah, exactly,

469
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 3>great point. Yeah, I'm going to steal that analogy. I

470
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.680
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get a little bit back into flat Earth

471
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 3>and talk about how your your journey started. Now, So

472
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 3>what I usually asked people was there a certain quote

473
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 3>unquote conspiracy that you came across prior to flat Earth

474
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 3>and maybe while you were down in the rabbit hole

475
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 3>as you came into this, or was this the first

476
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 3>one that really grabbed you?

477
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Well, like I said, though, like my parents, they never

478
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 4>really talked about the moon landing, I don't really remember

479
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 4>it too much. But like even nine to eleven that happened.

480
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 4>How old was I when nine to eleven happened. I

481
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.079
<v Speaker 4>was born in eighty five. I remember I was like

482
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 4>in elementary school, right, but like shortly after that happened,

483
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 4>I was I was thinking like no, literally, like this

484
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 4>is not this is not that these are these guys

485
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 4>aren't terrorists, you know what I'm saying like, like, I

486
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 4>do know that there are bad people, right sure, like

487
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 4>every Muslim is not They're not like they're they're trying

488
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 4>to see the Creator, right, the same with our the

489
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 4>same with what we're doing work with you know, our

490
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 4>God is our God and their God is I think

491
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 4>it's the same God. But that's a different story. But

492
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 4>so there was that and like and then later on

493
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 4>I remember fast forward quite a bit because in my

494
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 4>twenties I was not doing anything really like to improve myself.

495
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I was just the partying and working and this and that.

496
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 4>So and then I remember I was also had a

497
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 4>in twenty fourteen. I kind of was getting the YouTube

498
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>was really like kind of the wild West back then,

499
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 4>and so yeah, I was looking into like North Korea.

500
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 4>I was like just really interested in North Korea and

501
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 4>how could this country be so like cut off from

502
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the world and they just heavily propaganda

503
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 4>is right, And then I just started to think, like

504
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 4>even back then, like so it's only one country in

505
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 4>the whole world that has propaganda and then the rest

506
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 4>of us are just you.

507
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Know, getting the effects.

508
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it just it just didn't make any sense, right,

509
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 4>And so then I was piecing it together back then,

510
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 4>and like like I've always been a skeptic, and but

511
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't want it to be. I don't want to

512
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 4>be a looney bin. Like even when I was during

513
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 4>this COVID stuff and the COVID thing, they did wake

514
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 4>me up too, Like it woke me up to like

515
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 4>because I thought maybe that my parents had the truth,

516
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, and this and that and

517
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 4>then but then they were going to do the all

518
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 4>the major religions, all of them across the board. You

519
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 4>couldn't get a what was it when you wanted to

520
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 4>have a what was it called? I'm blanking on it?

521
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 3>What for what? I'm sorry?

522
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 4>When you wanted to get the vaccine, when you didn't

523
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 4>want to get the vaccine, you were trying to get

524
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 4>ah a religious exemption, A religious exemption, yes, And so

525
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 4>then then they were all for it too. And then

526
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, wait a minute, because like these guys

527
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 4>don't want to take any blood, and here we are

528
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 4>using because they were testing them with stem cell or

529
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 4>there was different cells, right, And so then that's kind

530
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 4>of woke me up to like maybe it's not the truth, right,

531
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 4>but I still make I still wanted to believe in God.

532
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 4>So because it's like, I know, that's what I found

533
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 4>out too, Like they're not it's not always all these

534
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 4>are organizations get infiltrated, right absolutely, and so like then

535
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>as there's truth in a lot of these different denominations, right,

536
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 4>so you have to That's why you have to like

537
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 4>do your own research, right from like from the day one,

538
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 4>like two thousand years ago, we had to do your

539
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 4>own research because if you just let somebody tell you

540
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 4>what's what, it's not gonna That's how Satan's kinda deceives everybody.

541
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 4>So there was that, and then so twenty fourteen I

542
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 4>was looking into this, and then I was like, so

543
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 4>fast forward a bit more twenty and sixteen seventeen, I

544
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 4>I finally got my passport, right, and so I started

545
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 4>to go travel around the world, right, just a little

546
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 4>bit down to them. I had a Filipino friend, and

547
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 4>I went to the Philippines to visit with him, right,

548
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 4>and because it'd be like, oh, we got basically a

549
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 4>tour guide, right, I can go see see the country,

550
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 4>not just the tourist sites. And I went over there

551
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and I actually that's where I met my wife.

552
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 3>But she went from the Philippines to British Columbia.

553
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh wow, and then in a small small town too.

554
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 4>But like I was going there and I was going

555
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.160
<v Speaker 4>back and forth. I went there like seven times over

556
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.200
<v Speaker 4>a course of six seven years. Right. And but then

557
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 4>there was like the Isis I remember there was another

558
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 4>thing because like, yeah, there was a a Canadian guy

559
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 4>got beheaded in the Philippines and he was down in

560
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 4>another part of the country. Right. But I remember of

561
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 4>traveling back and forth and my dad was like, oh,

562
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 4>you got to be careful, you got to be careful.

563
00:33:56.279 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 4>But and I just because I started to realize, like

564
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 4>the media is trying to tell you stuff and they

565
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 4>just like to make it bigger, bigger than it is,

566
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 4>right because it's like there was an isolated incident, but

567
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to make it out like the whole country.

568
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 4>If you go over there and you have my skin color,

569
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 4>you're going to be a target, you know what I mean,

570
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 4>Which it's it's just it could be the same in many,

571
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 4>many countries. Right. And then then there was that Isis attack.

572
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 4>That was another one that was I'm trying to come

573
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 4>around to us to why I or where I started

574
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 4>to believe we can't just trust the media. This is

575
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 4>why I'm trying to tell you the story. So it's

576
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>like and then there was a Isis attacks going on

577
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 4>in Minda Now, which is down in the southern part

578
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 4>of the Philippines, and it was literally isolated to like

579
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>a sixty kilometer radius. But the CBC over in Canada

580
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 4>here was trying to tell us that like the whole

581
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 4>it was like martial law and the whole country was

582
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 4>under lockdown. And I was already traveling there, right, I

583
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 4>was already planning to go, and again my dad was

584
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 4>telling me, oh, it's gonna be dangerous. And then I

585
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.760
<v Speaker 4>was literally like taking a domestic flight from Manila down

586
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 4>to Sebou which is kind of in the middle and

587
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 4>we were talking to the girls next to us on

588
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 4>the plane and they were from that Minta Now area

589
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 4>and they were like, yeah, it's not really affecting anything

590
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 4>else besides this small sixty kilometer radius. It's kind of like,

591
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, like there's an ISIS attack in Red Deer, Alberta,

592
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. Or so yeah, this is

593
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of where I started to think, like the government

594
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 4>is not the world is trying to deceive us, right

595
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 4>and not to trust us and not to trust anything.

596
00:35:55.159 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>So and then then the COVID thing happened, and still

597
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I remember going. I was flying near Taiwan, right,

598
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's so when did this all happen.

599
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 3>It was like February, yeah, over there, it kicked off

600
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 3>January February of twenty twenty.

601
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 4>January February. Yeah.

602
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

603
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 4>I remember being with the mask and like spraying it

604
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 4>going getting in the planes and people were like coffing

605
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and masks and stuff like that and it was going on,

606
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, I was just you know, because you don't

607
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 4>know if it's for real or not, right, Like, you

608
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 4>don't you have to be you'd be foolish to not,

609
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, especially when you don't know. But as more

610
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 4>information came out and I just started to realize, like

611
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 4>healthy people and then remember it was there doing the

612
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 4>more lockdowns and then they were saying you can only

613
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>travel if you're vaccinated and that kind of you know

614
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 4>that it sucked with then all of a sudden that

615
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 4>people were still spreading it, right, and then it's like

616
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, so yeah, so that's kind of where

617
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 4>I go. Then I, like I said, and then I

618
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.400
<v Speaker 4>met my friend here and he tells me that the

619
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Earth is six thousand years old. And then I just

620
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 4>started to look at the Bible more and then sure enough.

621
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 4>It took me a couple a year and a half,

622
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 4>and I kept trying to disprove the flat earth, right,

623
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 4>and then I kept looking and looking and looking and

624
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 4>like okay, and then yeah, so, but I just couldn't right.

625
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 4>And then I was again. I was flying to the Philippines.

626
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 4>And then this time this was after all the COVID stuff.

627
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I think we went Intota. It was last year of

628
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 4>February last year, I think, anyways, and I was praying.

629
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 4>I was like, just prove to me that the the

630
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<v Speaker 4>Earth is not flat, right, so I don't look like

631
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 4>a crazy person, because it is. It's isolating, right, right.

632
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 4>So I'm on the plane and there's literally you get

633
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 4>up to altitude there and it just cruises along and

634
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>we're going in a straight line. Why are we going

635
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 4>up to Alaska? Why are we flying over North Korea?

636
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? I was always fascinated with

637
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 4>North Koreas. And then we land and we go down

638
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 4>because my wife's lives in a small town near the

639
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 4>beach there, so we go down to the beach, and

640
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 4>sure enough, on that exactly, I see the sun and

641
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 4>then the moon right in the same sky, like just

642
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 4>on opposite sides. Was like, what is going on? So

643
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 4>that was really kind of it's more cementing it for me,

644
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 4>right like, because you have to just you have to

645
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 4>be aware of your senses, you know, and just it's

646
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 4>not you know, there is a God, you know, and

647
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 4>we have to just keep search keep trying to strengthen

648
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 4>a relationship with God because that's that's how you're going

649
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 4>to survive. Because yeah's a lot of wicked stuff going on,

650
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 4>right there is.

651
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 3>And the Bible makes it perfectly clear that you put

652
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 3>your trust in God and not in Man. And if

653
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 3>you look at many of the circumstances over the last

654
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty years, when the proverbial doo doo hits the fan,

655
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 3>we tend to look to man first to secure our liberties. Yeah,

656
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 3>and when these things happen, that's when they take advantage

657
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>of set emergencies to take our liberties instead of And

658
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I still a couple times a year on my other podcast,

659
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 3>we bring up COVID and we play all the just

660
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Irrational audio clips from the spring and summer of twenty

661
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 3>twenty about you know, giving away free French fries and

662
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 3>burgers for vaccines and joints for jabs and all of

663
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 3>this other ridiculous stuff. Pastor I think his name was Pulowski.

664
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 3>He was in your neck of the woods. I think

665
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 3>more on Calgary, that's right. I admired the people who

666
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 3>stood up, you know, for God and Jesus and the

667
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 3>gospel versus. Oh, I have to close my church, but

668
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 3>it's okay to leave the liquor stores and all these

669
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 3>other things open. It was It was evil. It was

670
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 3>probably one of the most evil things I've seen in

671
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 3>my fifty five years on this earth. And I've seen

672
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot, right, Yeah, I've seen a lot. And just

673
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 3>the simple fact of destroying people's mental health, destroying small business, right,

674
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 3>COVID will destroy people if they walk into a mom

675
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 3>and pop store, but it's okay for Amazon and Walmart

676
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 3>to be open. The entire thing was completely evil, and

677
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>I think we failed that test as a whole. Not

678
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 3>necessarily the people who stoick it, not the vaccine portion

679
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.679
<v Speaker 3>of it, just the portion of them allowing to shut

680
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 3>down the country and close our churches.

681
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I remember even my sister, she said to me,

682
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 4>because she was she works for the she's part of

683
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the nurses union, right, so she and she works with

684
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 4>early childhood development, and she didn't want and then our

685
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 4>family also we have a history of like blood cloths

686
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that, right, so she did not want

687
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 4>to do it, right, And finally they she was gonna

688
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 4>lose her job. And the only reason she did it

689
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 4>was for her job. So it was definitely a coersion.

690
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And then it was like less than a couple of

691
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 4>months later and then they kind of no longer made

692
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 4>it mandatory, so it was really hard. But I remember

693
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 4>she said to me, I'm so proud, like I'm thankful

694
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 4>for you not to get the vaccine. But I was like,

695
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 4>my wife is we try to be law abiding citizens too, right,

696
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 4>So it's like it's a you're trying to drive a

697
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 4>fine line because you want to be a Christian and

698
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of follow you know, to a certain extent, right,

699
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 4>and like closing churches I think was a bad idea.

700
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 4>And my friends and I used to just get together

701
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 4>in a house, but I would I would see some

702
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 4>people and I remember going to the grocery store and

703
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I would see them with their masks off, and I

704
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 4>would have my mask on because and then I would

705
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>go over to the to them and say like, thank

706
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 4>you for what you're doing. I just don't have the

707
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 4>courage to do do it, you know what I mean.

708
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 4>And I because I made it if I made a

709
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 4>point to make tell these people to help encourage them,

710
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 4>because I mean, I wanted to take my mask off,

711
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 4>but my wife would just she wouldn't have it right.

712
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 4>So it was because she's like nude, she's an immigrant

713
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 4>to the country and she wants to follow the rules.

714
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 3>And of course, yeah, yeah, but that was because I

715
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 3>was a pretty staunch. If it came down to either

716
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 3>me leaving or putting on a mask on, I'd put

717
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 3>on a mask, especially if I had to get something

718
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 3>for the chickens or my family. But I tried to

719
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 3>make it a point. And you would see when you

720
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 3>walked into Walmart without your mask on, people will kind

721
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>of give you that nod like thanks, yeah, because maybe

722
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 3>their spouse or somebody else didn't want to to you know,

723
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 3>they either A they believed the propaganda or B they

724
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 3>just I don't know. It was such an evil time

725
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>and I remember just the world I don't know how

726
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 3>to properly put it into words. But the world changed,

727
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 3>like and I'm not sure wherever. Well, we're obviously never

728
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 3>going to go back, but you know, the world used

729
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>to be good about hiding evil, right, and they there's

730
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 3>threads and I'm sure if you've been in down some

731
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 3>rabbit holes, you know the truth about like Disney movies,

732
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 3>the evil in that. You know, all the numerology and

733
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 3>all the other stuff that's that's evil. But now it's

734
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 3>just all out in the open, and it's in your commercials,

735
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 3>it's in your movies, and it's just a really strange world.

736
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 3>And it happened overnight. It didn't really right. For a

737
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 3>long time. They used to say, you know, boil the frog,

738
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 3>and these agendas they've had would go over generations. But

739
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 3>over the last ten or fifteen years, it's just flipped

740
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 3>its lid overnight.

741
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

742
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, I and like I said, remember before we started recording,

743
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I have to be careful because I

744
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 4>going to get sidetracks because I do, you know, I

745
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 4>look into all sorts of stuff and because you know what,

746
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 4>you have to be aware, right, So, and like even

747
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 4>with the COVID, at first you know, if you don't know,

748
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.360
<v Speaker 4>you'd be reckless to just you know, break the rules.

749
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 4>But if you can find more and more information, and

750
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 4>like that's the thing about the Internet, that's the positive

751
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 4>thing is you know you can get information out there.

752
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Like there were doctors right that we're losing their position.

753
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Like even like the Canadian guy Jordan Peterson, he's a psychologist, right,

754
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 4>and he was he got his license pulled up in

755
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 4>Canada here, right because he's still going against the Wolke stuff.

756
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so what was I trying to say? It's

757
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 4>we need to like we Yeah, so the it is prophesying,

758
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 4>and I kind of think that it's they're they're not

759
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 4>hiding it as much because people don't really care as much, right,

760
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Like I think I kind of have a theory that

761
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 4>like during Bible times we were closer to perfection because

762
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 4>as in the Bible that people were living nine hundred

763
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 4>years what was his name, Medusa Enoch's mother or father

764
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 4>or something like that, you know, living nine hundred years

765
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 4>and then after the flood was one hundred and twenty years. Yeah,

766
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 4>so like we can still have a connection, but I

767
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 4>think we're just I think our DNA is breaking down

768
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And that's just my personal theory. And we were getting

769
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 4>so yes, you can see miracles and you can see stuff,

770
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 4>but it's just harder and harder to be We're being

771
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 4>more and more disconnected, and like like I do think

772
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 4>it's a spiritual battle like good and evil, and it's

773
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 4>just as we get closer and closer, it's you know,

774
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 4>we're just like we are, we're losing our connections. So

775
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 4>you have to really really focus and pray, and so

776
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 4>I think you still can have the strong connections that

777
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 4>they had back then. It's just being harder and harder

778
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 4>and harder.

779
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 3>You have to be disciplined, and you have to minimize

780
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 3>your distractions. If you're looking at your phone all day,

781
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 3>chances are you're not going to be connected. Being outside

782
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 3>plays a huge portion of it, right, Yeah, back in

783
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 3>the day, they had shelters. They didn't really have houses

784
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 3>where they just hung out all day. They were outside

785
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 3>doing their work, collecting firewood, finding food. Right, they didn't

786
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 3>really have grocery stores per se. I'm sure they had

787
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>markets and things of that nature, but for the most part,

788
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 3>if you were going to eat, you collected and you

789
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 3>had to bake your breads and all these other menial

790
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 3>tasks that you had to do to survive, and that's

791
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.440
<v Speaker 3>what we my family's trying to get back to. We

792
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 3>grind our you know, our wheat, and make our own flour,

793
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 3>grow our own bread, and we try to eat as

794
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 3>much as our own chicken. You know, we raise chickens

795
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 3>the eggs. And I realized not everybody can do that,

796
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 3>but it's important to it. Does those type of things,

797
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I believe do bring you closer to God versus doing everything.

798
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 3>And again we do the same thing too, we go

799
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to the grocery store, et cetera. But trying to do

800
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 3>the those things as much as possible, I think does

801
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 3>take you back to the way I think we were

802
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 3>meant to be acting on this earth. We weren't meant

803
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 3>to work for a bank fifty sixty hours a week

804
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 3>and send children off to be you know, I don't like,

805
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not in the business of bashing schools or teachers,

806
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 3>because teachers is just a great profession and they mean, well, again,

807
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 3>it's the system that's in place for many of the

808
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.440
<v Speaker 3>public schools. But I think it's important that we go

809
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 3>back to educating our own children and to control what

810
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:41.480
<v Speaker 3>goes in their mind or at least at a community level.

811
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you know, Carter just died, Jimmy Carter,

812
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 3>and he was the one who he was put in

813
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.440
<v Speaker 3>office by the Rockefellers and his soul. There was some

814
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 3>other things done, but the biggest detriment that he inflicted

815
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 3>on the United States was allowing the federal government to

816
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.639
<v Speaker 3>complete the hijacking of the education system that should be

817
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 3>a community but not even state, it should be community level.

818
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 3>So that was and I was part of that. In

819
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 3>seventy nine, I got sent from my local school to

820
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the city, you know, twenty thirty minutes away to go

821
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 3>to school, and it destroyed our community.

822
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, Like there's a couple of things I had.

823
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 4>I did have some notes to try to keep me

824
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 4>on track.

825
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go right ahead.

826
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 4>The myth of progress. I heard this one and this

827
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 4>one was stuck with me. I don't know where where

828
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I heard, but yeah, like our school Systemyeah, our school system.

829
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 4>Some of the teachers have, like they said, they have

830
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.000
<v Speaker 4>good intentions, but they need to get back to like

831
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 4>the basics, right and this because you know in our

832
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 4>school districts here like and we have to like get

833
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 4>parents more involved. But like they're just raising political activists,

834
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, And they don't even so

835
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 4>they're taking time, the little time that they actually have

836
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 4>in school, but it's not with break and going to

837
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 4>different classes, and you know, they're just space spending it

838
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 4>just trying to like, you know, we've got to save

839
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the planet. Like I remember watching a cartoon there's like

840
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Ted Turner actually I think he was like the one

841
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.280
<v Speaker 4>behind like that Captain Planet. I don't know if you

842
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 4>remember this. Yeah, that's right, we've got to save the planet.

843
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 4>And then this and this. I was like, do they

844
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 4>really want because I God's not gonna let the planets

845
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 4>be destroyed. But if we all think we're we only

846
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 4>look after ourselves and we want to be gods ourselves

847
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 4>and live as long as we can, and then you know,

848
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna just leave this planet. Like that's totally I

849
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:52.400
<v Speaker 4>guess what the Bible says.

850
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, so I'm glad you brought up Yeah,

851
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm unrated. Sorry, I'm glad you brought that up because yeah,

852
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Ted Turner was the primary behind that, but Barbara Pyle

853
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 3>was the secondary and she was Ted Turner was kind

854
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.800
<v Speaker 3>of the money behind it, and Barbara Pyle was the

855
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 3>content creator, if you will, and she was a United

856
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Nations lackey. She was a UN lackery. So yeah, that

857
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 3>was she championed corporate social responsibility and all of these

858
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 3>other things. And she was also part of Jimmy Carter's

859
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 3>presidential administration. Yeah, so you know, all the dots connect

860
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's what we talk about. All these things on

861
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the outside seemed like such a harmless, kind thing, but

862
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 3>when you peel back the layers of the onion, it

863
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a a god fearing agenda that you know,

864
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 3>we should be subjecting our children too.

865
00:51:52.840 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 4>No. Yeah, And it's like, because like there's a thing

866
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.480
<v Speaker 4>about what is it basic human rights? Basic human rights?

867
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 4>And then I was like you need food, water, shelter, right,

868
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 4>and then there's four or five. But then they added

869
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 4>one here up in Canada. I don't I think it

870
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.760
<v Speaker 4>was our Prime minister somehow. But do you have to

871
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 4>have a Wi Fi connection? It's like a basic human

872
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 4>right now? And I was like that was like five

873
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 4>or six years ago. But it's like it's not really

874
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 4>like I said, Like I said, I do think the

875
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Internet is a great tool, but it's like, are we

876
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 4>really focusing on having an internet connection, a high speed

877
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 4>internet connection in every household, you know what I mean,

878
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 4>as a basic human right, Like it's just and it's

879
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 4>just so we can just waste more time on social

880
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 4>media and just not spend time with family. You know,

881
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 4>it's just this as an attack, I think.

882
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and they Eric's referring to Moslow's original hierarchy

883
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 3>of needs, which was, according to him, the basic human

884
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 3>needs self actualization, esteem, social needs, safety, security, and physiological needs,

885
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 3>which is you know, shelter, water, food. And then about

886
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 3>three years ago they they brought they created something Masslow's

887
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.239
<v Speaker 3>hierarchy of needs in the digital age, and at the

888
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:32.800
<v Speaker 3>bottom of the pyramid is Wi Fi.

889
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's crazy, like you see those experiments.

890
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 4>I haven't done them myself, but like you can have.

891
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.039
<v Speaker 4>They put these Wi Fi connections and they had these

892
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 4>seedlings and it was it was a classroom in yeah

893
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 4>the future was doing this experiment and it was like

894
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 4>it would take six or seven days longer to Germany.

895
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.760
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean. Some of these experiments that

896
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, as my kids get a bit older, I'd

897
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 4>like to do them with them, right, And like it

898
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 4>does another experiment I wanted to do about just like

899
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 4>positive affirmations talking to you know the bowl you put

900
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 4>it in a jar of rice.

901
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you can be talking nice to it and talk

902
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 3>evil to or made to it. Yeah.

903
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 4>So like and like I said, like and then but

904
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 4>there's like a new age thing that's saying like you

905
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.400
<v Speaker 4>can kind of manifest your own thing. But I don't

906
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 4>think that. I don't think that's the case. I just

907
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 4>do think like you know, we have you can manifest

908
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 4>things to a certain extent, but it's through God that's

909
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 4>doing it right, not yourself. Like this idea that we

910
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 4>have God is in each one of us, or we

911
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 4>are all God in the collective, you know what I mean.

912
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Like it's again, that's more like a communist thing to me.

913
00:54:51.079 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 4>To me, yeah, so and yeah, so I've been where

914
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 4>was I so? So yeah, I'm getting back to the

915
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 4>flat earth and it's really it really did strengthen my connection.

916
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 4>But I mean my wife is she's not really into it,

917
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 4>but she's a God fearing woman. And like I said,

918
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 4>it's not it's not for everybody, but I'm sure like

919
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 4>that that was another thing that I made me my

920
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 4>belief in God be like I used to pray when

921
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 4>I was like in my twenties for a wife, and

922
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 4>then she came along, and I kind of sad. That

923
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 4>really strengthened my faith in God because she really is

924
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 4>a godsend because and she lets me do my my

925
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 4>crazy conspiracy stuff. But it's she knows, she knows I'm

926
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 4>not crazy, right, Like it's just so and like even

927
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 4>when I was with with the COVID stuff, and you

928
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 4>know how we all we just let's just look at

929
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 4>the information. Let's look at the information. It just and

930
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 4>it just became harder and harder to find. And it's

931
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 4>like the same thing with the flat Earth. It's like

932
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 4>it's hard to find this information. And then like NASA

933
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 4>wants to, you know, give you all these pictures and

934
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, and then you like, I really do feel

935
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 4>like that NASA is kind of it's like a like

936
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 4>a it's like a cathedral, right, and like that Neil

937
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 4>de Grasse Tyson, They're just like it reminds me of

938
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.880
<v Speaker 4>like and I don't I don't like bashing the Catholic

939
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Church too much, but you know, like we have the

940
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:48.119
<v Speaker 4>knowledge and we're going to tell you how it is,

941
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.280
<v Speaker 4>and you just don't understand it. You're you're a layman, right,

942
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 4>And that's all these astrophysicists is like, this is you

943
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.800
<v Speaker 4>just don't understand that. You're a commoner. You don't get

944
00:56:58.840 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 4>it right.

945
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Just trust us, right, the same thing we tell during COVID,

946
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.519
<v Speaker 3>trust us, don't research for yourself.

947
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then like Canada, like we have every country

948
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.119
<v Speaker 4>has a space program, and we you know, we're only

949
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 4>forty million people besides of California, but we do have

950
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 4>a And then you look at the budget for our

951
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 4>space program and it's like, and we're so heavily taxed

952
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:28.440
<v Speaker 4>up here. It's this crazy like we pay like some

953
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:33.079
<v Speaker 4>of us are paying sixty five percent, right basically, so,

954
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:35.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's like even if they just and so why

955
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:37.599
<v Speaker 4>does it matter? Why does it matter? It's like, if

956
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 4>we just scrapped the space program, you know, it would

957
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 4>make it a lot easier. We can have nice roads

958
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 4>and you know what I mean, focused on things that

959
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 4>are more important.

960
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, here's a legitimate question, uh, and you can address

961
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 3>it to NASA Spotnick or Canadian Space program. What have

962
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 3>they done in the past We'll call it sixty years

963
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:12.639
<v Speaker 3>to actually better humanity in our world? Yeah, absolutely, Like,

964
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:14.079
<v Speaker 3>tell me one thing.

965
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, no. I well, I think they invented the what

966
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.800
<v Speaker 4>was it? I don't I remember the one joke about

967
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 4>is that NASA they've spent a whole bunch of money

968
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 4>making a pen that could write upside doubts.

969
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, the famous Seinfeld episode.

970
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I mean, and that's that's the thing. It's

971
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 4>like we're we're we're terrified of meteors hitting us because

972
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 4>we all watched Armageddon, that Bruce Willis movie, right, you

973
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. So we have to be yeah,

974
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.599
<v Speaker 4>we have to be fearful of this destruction. But you know,

975
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 4>the Bible says, yeah, there is going to be a judgment, aim,

976
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 4>there is going to be a destruction. And then like

977
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:10.760
<v Speaker 4>and then there's people that think it's my other brother.

978
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 4>I got three brothers, right, and a sister. But he's

979
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:18.480
<v Speaker 4>like it's he's all about the aliens. Oh boy, the aliens.

980
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:22.239
<v Speaker 4>And it's like and and that's another thing. Why NASA

981
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 4>and the space you know in the Alstra Crowley and

982
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to get everybody because it's like to detach

983
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 4>us from God and give us all these other well

984
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:35.760
<v Speaker 4>what if? What if? Because our imaginations are the greatest weapon.

985
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And really the science fiction stuff didn't

986
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 3>really I mean it was there in the twenties, thirties

987
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and forties, but it didn't really pick up and you know,

988
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 3>become mainstream until post World War Two, and then Star

989
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Wars and Star Trek and those type of things took

990
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.920
<v Speaker 3>children's minds to a whole new level and they accepted

991
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.119
<v Speaker 3>And I think all those things had to happen in

992
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>order for them to accept the Space program, all the

993
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:14.320
<v Speaker 3>great space movies of the fifties, and then even Warner

994
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 3>von Brown, Right, was he the one who wrote the

995
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 3>book about Mars and the main protagonist was a guy

996
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 3>named Elon And the rocket ship on the cover of

997
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the book look exactly like SpaceX's very first rocket.

998
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're probably right. Probably I don't know about that,

999
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 4>but it's yeah. And like I was telling my one,

1000
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 4>my one brother, he's he said, I should make it

1001
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:46.639
<v Speaker 4>as a comic bit or something like that, because it's

1002
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 4>people that want to make Star Trek reality, right, Like

1003
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 4>it was just a science fiction movie. And like nobody

1004
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:57.400
<v Speaker 4>gets paid in the Star Trek's Like the Captain Kurk

1005
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.480
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make any more money than the other guy. So

1006
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 4>I was like, but like, I don't even know if

1007
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk actually believes they're gonna put him on They're

1008
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 4>gonna go on to Mars, you know what I mean.

1009
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Like he's part of the club, he's an actor on

1010
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 3>the world stage. He knows there's Yeah, like I lived

1011
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 3>up far.

1012
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 4>I lived pretty far up north. I lived in Dawson Creek.

1013
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.320
<v Speaker 4>But it's where's the where do they film all the

1014
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Mars footage in Greenland?

1015
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I think?

1016
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.480
<v Speaker 4>No, No, it's in Canon.

1017
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Devin Island, Devon Island, Devon Island.

1018
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 4>And it's it's pretty desolate up there. But and then

1019
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 4>I found out another one because Jeff Bezos and Elon

1020
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Musk were having a rift apparently, I don't really, I'm

1021
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 4>not on Twitter, I never have been. But because the

1022
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 4>one guy wants to have a floating city, right, and

1023
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 4>he was from Princeton. I think he was an engineer

1024
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 4>right from Princeton.

1025
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Is that where it was, I believe so Jeff Bezos.

1026
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 4>But anyways, and he had one of his big professors

1027
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 4>what was that guy's name, Oh, I can't think of

1028
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:14.079
<v Speaker 4>it right now. But they had an idea to have

1029
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 4>like a floating city, right, and so Jeff Bezos is

1030
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.960
<v Speaker 4>trying to like make this city. I don't know if

1031
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 4>you could look it up, but his name was Gerald,

1032
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Gerard Gerard something. But and then Elon Musk is.

1033
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh Gerard O'Neill, Joe, Yeah.

1034
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 4>The O'Neal project. That's it, the O'Neal project. So if

1035
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.639
<v Speaker 4>you look up the O'Neal project, and it's like, I

1036
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 4>think that they're going to actually try to do that.

1037
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 4>They're going to try and like put a floating city

1038
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 4>for the elite people, Like I'm not going to be invited,

1039
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I know that, but it's going to be like hovering

1040
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:55.920
<v Speaker 4>up near the firmament because they there is a firmament,

1041
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.519
<v Speaker 4>but you can go up higher and high enough. Like

1042
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.920
<v Speaker 4>what was that the space jump was seventy miles right.

1043
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're right, seventy one seventy yeah, right

1044
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:04.440
<v Speaker 3>around there.

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01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I keep doing in the kilometers. That's the hardest part

1046
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:16.199
<v Speaker 4>about being Canadian, is yeah, and uh yeah, like so

1047
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 4>like I don't even think it's but you know he's

1048
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk is a government contractor, and he's he likes

1049
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 4>to make money, right, and I'm just gonna just get

1050
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 4>government funding for his space programs. But then he's gonna

1051
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.000
<v Speaker 4>make cars and do whatever else, right, so and uh, yeah,

1052
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:40.239
<v Speaker 4>it's not totally against electric cars.

1053
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 3>It's called the O'Neill cylinder and cylinder, that's it. It

1054
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 3>is a space settlement concept proposed by American physicist Gerald

1055
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 3>O'Neill in his nineteen seventy six book The High Frontier

1056
01:03:55.199 --> 01:04:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Human Colonies in Space, and he claims or propose the

1057
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 3>colonization of space for a twenty first century using materials

1058
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 3>extracted from the Moon and later from asteroids. If that's

1059
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.320
<v Speaker 3>not some fantasy stuff, I don't know what is.

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01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean the thing is is like I

1061
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:19.320
<v Speaker 4>think Jeff Bezos wants to do something like that, right,

1062
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:23.960
<v Speaker 4>and like, but it would be crazy to just but

1063
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 4>they're going to get it from the Earth, right, And

1064
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 4>so maybe they want to use all this materials and

1065
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.840
<v Speaker 4>not let everyone else have houses. Is that why they

1066
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:41.360
<v Speaker 4>want to get the population down? I'm not sure, but yeah,

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01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 4>and then oh, and then like there was a couple

1068
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:54.079
<v Speaker 4>of scriptures because I think for me, really the Bible

1069
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 4>really is my biggest proof. So like in the Flatters community,

1070
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 4>there is a lot to do with the scientific aspects

1071
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:08.480
<v Speaker 4>of it, like yeah, the water, the oceans are all level.

1072
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, how you tell me that an earth

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:16.239
<v Speaker 4>that is eighty percent water or seventy percent water is

1074
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 4>a ball? Right? Like, so the pictures nothing, None of

1075
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.360
<v Speaker 4>the pictures are real. Right. So and then when you

1076
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 4>look at and I think it's so funny because I

1077
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 4>talk to people in my congregation and then they say, well, no,

1078
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:36.440
<v Speaker 4>but God said it was a ball, right is an Isaiah? Right?

1079
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 4>And then you look and it says the circle, the

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01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:42.960
<v Speaker 4>circle of the earth. And then they try to tell

1081
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.039
<v Speaker 4>me that, well, no, the Hebrew language never had a

1082
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:52.280
<v Speaker 4>word for ball. And then you look in like another

1083
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.880
<v Speaker 4>one in Isaiah. I wrote it down to Isaiah twenty

1084
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 4>two eighteen and it uses ball. So there's two different words, right.

1085
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:05.239
<v Speaker 4>So but we just kind of I don't know. And

1086
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:09.360
<v Speaker 4>that's the thing, like the indoctrination from early childhood. Right,

1087
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.719
<v Speaker 4>So you read the Bible, then you're just but you

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01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 4>have this scientific scientism influence right as you're reading it.

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01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:21.559
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't connect, so like and that's the problem. And

1090
01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:23.639
<v Speaker 4>then like they say, you're, well, you're anti science. It's

1091
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 4>like no, no, I'm like I really am all to

1092
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:30.719
<v Speaker 4>do with science. I'm just not really into astrophysics.

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01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's a fair point, and you're spot on twenty

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01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 3>two eighteen from Isaiah Isaiah, pardon me, and from the

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01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 3>King James version says he will surely violently turn and

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01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 3>toss the like a ball into a large country. There

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01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.039
<v Speaker 3>shall thou die, and the chariots of that glory shall

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 3>be the shame of the Lord's house.

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01:06:51.039 --> 01:07:01.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so oh, my son's a week. Oh yeah, So

1100
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 6>then what was what was the other.

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01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Thing I had written down here and cultivated ignorance? That

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01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.639
<v Speaker 4>was another couple of things that I wrote down. And

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01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.760
<v Speaker 4>it's like, and that's the thing about these algorithms that

1104
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.960
<v Speaker 4>we have to be careful of. Like I just don't

1105
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't even like to just keep clicking what they

1106
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.119
<v Speaker 4>showed me. Like I try to make it a point

1107
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.719
<v Speaker 4>to just go into the search and use my own

1108
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 4>get my own thinking, going right, my own thoughts, because

1109
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:39.239
<v Speaker 4>they just tried to They just they're cultivating it, right,

1110
01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 4>and they send you down these different avenues.

1111
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Have just yeah, that's important, especially when you're searching, when

1112
01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 3>when you're researching. You know, if you go to Google

1113
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:56.159
<v Speaker 3>and you put in flat Earth and you look at

1114
01:07:56.199 --> 01:08:00.199
<v Speaker 3>the very first entry, you will never research flat Earth. Yeah,

1115
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 3>it's going to present things for you. And cultivated ignorance

1116
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 3>is exactly that, the act of shielding oneself from ideas

1117
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 3>that could challenge one sense of self. And I think

1118
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.880
<v Speaker 3>that's that's exactly one of the reasons people refuse to

1119
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 3>go down and research these things because they know it

1120
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 3>will challenge everything that they've been brought up to believe

1121
01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 3>in there, no matter how old they are, twenty thirty, forty, fifty,

1122
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.640
<v Speaker 3>sixty years and it's a lot and it's too much

1123
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 3>for some people to swallow.

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01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and like that's the thing that's like, and then

1125
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 4>you have to be accountable, like what I have to

1126
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.760
<v Speaker 4>be accountable for my options, you know what I mean.

1127
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 4>And it's just it's too much for a lot of

1128
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:42.880
<v Speaker 4>people to bear. So they just want to, you know,

1129
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:47.600
<v Speaker 4>live in the moment and not really worry about the future.

1130
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:49.720
<v Speaker 4>And and that's why people don't want to have kids.

1131
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 4>And I just I think it's kind of because I

1132
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.039
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't around in the thirties, but I'm pretty sure

1133
01:08:57.079 --> 01:09:00.399
<v Speaker 4>people were saying, oh, how could you bring kids into

1134
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 4>this world? How can you bring kids into this world?

1135
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.359
<v Speaker 4>And then I think they were probably saying it around

1136
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 4>the sixties, and then they were saying in the nineties,

1137
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.680
<v Speaker 4>and now they're saying it to like, I don't know

1138
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 4>how you do it. It's so expensive to have kids,

1139
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:17.079
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, well, it's not really too expensive. I mean,

1140
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 4>you want to send them to a university to be

1141
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 4>in doctrinate, but I think I want to he wants

1142
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 4>to be an engineer. That's that's pretty good, But that's awesome.

1143
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to ask you two questions. Number one, have

1144
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 3>you had any successes in sharing flat Earth with others?

1145
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Actually, the my one friend who kind of he's

1146
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 4>a seventy Adventist and he's I've been going to their

1147
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.640
<v Speaker 4>church and he was yeah, he's like trying to show

1148
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.600
<v Speaker 4>me this stuff. He's like, hey, Eric, I got this

1149
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:55.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff on my old laptop, right, He's got these files downloaded,

1150
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:57.399
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, yeah, I don't I don't think we

1151
01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.439
<v Speaker 4>landed on the moon. I thought he was going to

1152
01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:01.600
<v Speaker 4>show me something that I didn't really know. But I

1153
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:05.479
<v Speaker 4>didn't even realize how much of a conspiracy there as

1154
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 4>I am, because he's like he's just finding out about this,

1155
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.279
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I've known this for a long time.

1156
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 4>But so and then, uh so he didn't really show

1157
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 4>me anything I didn't already know, but it kind of

1158
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.000
<v Speaker 4>opened up to like, okay, so and then I was

1159
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of sharing them with this, Yeah, I think the

1160
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 4>earth is splat and I was showing on these scriptures

1161
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.159
<v Speaker 4>like Isaiah forty like the Circle.

1162
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Of the Earth yep.

1163
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:35.720
<v Speaker 4>And but anyways, so just recently he's he's went off

1164
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:39.680
<v Speaker 4>to his uh wife's. His wife's from a country called

1165
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 4>Cannabis and something in the south specific there it's like

1166
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.640
<v Speaker 4>two and a half hours north or sorry, two and

1167
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 4>a half hours south of Hawaii and then north of

1168
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Fiji a little bit. Yeah, and that's interesting too, like

1169
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 4>she's well, she's forty six now, but she remembers in

1170
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 4>school they were saying back in the nineties that her

1171
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:12.039
<v Speaker 4>country is going to be underwater. And now she goes

1172
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.680
<v Speaker 4>there and like she's showing her kids like, yeah, they

1173
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:17.279
<v Speaker 4>we used to swim over there, and now there's like

1174
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.560
<v Speaker 4>because it's like a coral athol, so that the coral

1175
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 4>reefs actually coming out of the ocean, so it's actually rising.

1176
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.680
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so this guy, he says to me, you

1177
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 4>know what, Eric, you're there's no planets in the Bible,

1178
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:36.720
<v Speaker 4>because I think they'd mentioned Saturn and a couple other

1179
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 4>like those wandering stars, right, but that's those. Yeah, so

1180
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:48.159
<v Speaker 4>he's coming around. And then also my brother Dustin, Yeah,

1181
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:52.119
<v Speaker 4>I was telling him too about it and he's but

1182
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:55.319
<v Speaker 4>he's like, well, I think there might be aliens. And

1183
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, you realize aliens and angels are

1184
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:04.399
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. And I don't know for certain I

1185
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 4>have it's my belief right, but like the thing is,

1186
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:12.239
<v Speaker 4>is like why not try, Like if there is going

1187
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:15.319
<v Speaker 4>to be a judgment day, I want to at least

1188
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 4>make the case. Like I don't know if I'm going

1189
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:19.159
<v Speaker 4>to be saved or not, but you know what I'm saying.

1190
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 4>So he's kind of looking into it, and but it's

1191
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 4>like you have to do your own research. You can't

1192
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.239
<v Speaker 4>tell anybody, right, So that's what I just tell him,

1193
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:32.720
<v Speaker 4>is like you have to look into it for yourself.

1194
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

1195
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 4>And I.

1196
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Was just gonna say, and I try to tell that

1197
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 3>to the audience all the time. You know everything we say,

1198
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 3>take it and research it for yourself.

1199
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then my motto in life too is to

1200
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:53.039
<v Speaker 4>never think that I know everything right, Like what I've

1201
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:55.840
<v Speaker 4>and I remember my dad saying that too, Like the

1202
01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:58.760
<v Speaker 4>minute you think you know everything, that's the saddest day

1203
01:12:58.800 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 4>of your life.

1204
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Is I learned something new every single day and you

1205
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:06.880
<v Speaker 3>have to be willing to say you were wrong as well. Yeah,

1206
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:11.000
<v Speaker 3>and accept new information and and and you know, decide

1207
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:13.680
<v Speaker 3>from there. Uh did did you hit all of your

1208
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:16.319
<v Speaker 3>silver bullets?

1209
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:25.840
<v Speaker 4>No? No, I I still have I still have some. Yeah,

1210
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:31.319
<v Speaker 4>I remember. Can I just say one last thing? Yeah?

1211
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 4>I remember because when I first was like started telling

1212
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:39.439
<v Speaker 4>people that I'm a flat earther and kind of coming

1213
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 4>out of the closet, they were you know a lot

1214
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.439
<v Speaker 4>of people were making fun of me. And then anyway,

1215
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.560
<v Speaker 4>so and then I had this kind of I kind

1216
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 4>of coined this phrase. And I don't know if I because,

1217
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 4>like you said, you get a lot of information the

1218
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 4>store in your head. You don't know where you get

1219
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:01.600
<v Speaker 4>it from. But it goes like, uh, some people call

1220
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:07.279
<v Speaker 4>it think I'm a moron, or thinking the earth is flat.

1221
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:13.399
<v Speaker 4>These same people think that flat is a shape because

1222
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like the flat isn't a shape, right, Like so

1223
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 4>there's I kind of thought that.

1224
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Was more of a term than a shape, right yeah.

1225
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Because like we I don't know if it's a plane

1226
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 4>that goes on forever and ever and ever, I don't

1227
01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.880
<v Speaker 4>like I do know, it's not a plate of you know,

1228
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:32.840
<v Speaker 4>like the flat of the society claims.

1229
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Right where you can fall off the edge.

1230
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the ice dangling off into space is like, no,

1231
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:41.039
<v Speaker 4>it's a space is what's we don't know? And the

1232
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:47.119
<v Speaker 4>sun we don't know. So I got some other silver balls,

1233
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:51.960
<v Speaker 4>like the fact that the ground positioning system also known

1234
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:56.520
<v Speaker 4>as the Global Positioning System doesn't always work.

1235
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:58.199
<v Speaker 3>Nope, it sure doesn't.

1236
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, high in the mountains. And then like people I

1237
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 4>don't have the money to sail around the world, but

1238
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 4>some people in the Caribbean, yeah, and yeah flying to

1239
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 4>the Philippines and yeah, and seeing the sun and the

1240
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:18.199
<v Speaker 4>moon in the opposite in the sky and like praying

1241
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 4>about it and like it was just like I said,

1242
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.840
<v Speaker 4>is that God shown me? I believe that, right. And

1243
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.119
<v Speaker 4>then also the.

1244
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 7>The weather balloon, the Chinese weather balloon that flew over

1245
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:37.079
<v Speaker 7>did a fly over Canada, United States as well, remember

1246
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:38.760
<v Speaker 7>that she was like, yeah, a couple of years ago.

1247
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.439
<v Speaker 4>And then they shot it down in Alaska and then

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<v Speaker 4>nobody found any of the because they probably said star

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<v Speaker 4>choice or express view or something like that on the

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01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:54.439
<v Speaker 4>satellite YEP. And the founders of NASA. Yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 4>look into like and how they were all occultist and.

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01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:04.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah TRIPL. You know a lot of people

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01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:06.319
<v Speaker 3>don't really. I think I mentioned that way back in

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01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 3>like episode two. It was Jack Parsons Laboratories and he

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01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.880
<v Speaker 3>was an occultist as well as he was what's the

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01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:20.000
<v Speaker 3>dynetics guy, l Ron Hubbard and Alistair Crowley. Those were

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01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:23.600
<v Speaker 3>the original founders of JPL which became NASA, and those

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01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:25.279
<v Speaker 3>things cannot be ignored.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and then the scientist what was his on his tombstone?

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<v Speaker 4>So that really cemented it for me too, is I

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01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 4>think it's a Psalm's nineteen one Thoms nineteen, Yeah, Psalms

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01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:42.199
<v Speaker 4>nineteen my other ones, Like I said, it's for me,

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01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.239
<v Speaker 4>it is a lot to do with the Bible and

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01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:48.319
<v Speaker 4>what the Bible says, because I think I do think

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01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:53.079
<v Speaker 4>that they weren't cavemen. I think they were intelligent, like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe more so they maybe they had different technology than

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01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:01.279
<v Speaker 4>we did, like before the before the flood and the nephlow.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's another one, like my brother about aliens. It's

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01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:08.439
<v Speaker 4>like the nephilow. Yeah, they came down and they kind

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01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:13.319
<v Speaker 4>of gave people the ideas of women wearing makeup and

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01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.920
<v Speaker 4>all this making fire and making weapons and you know,

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01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 4>all this evil stuff. It was all these Nephilim and so,

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01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 4>and that's the Bible story in Joshua when he's and

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01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:27.800
<v Speaker 4>he wants the sun and the moon to stop so

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01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 4>they can continue to fight in this war. Right. So

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01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:33.279
<v Speaker 4>that was a and it's like, how is it going

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01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:37.640
<v Speaker 4>to stop? That would mean that the earth right.

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01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, everybody go floating off right exactly.

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01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:44.960
<v Speaker 4>So like that doesn't Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

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01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 4>And then like that's the thing, so like they want

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01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:54.119
<v Speaker 4>to and that's that's another example of showing that the

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01:17:54.119 --> 01:17:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the Bible is all just fairy tales with this heliocentric model, right,

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01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:04.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's yeah. So and another one for me was

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01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, and I think it was a previous guest,

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01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:15.079
<v Speaker 4>but this the shadows underneath the clouds when this when

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01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:18.359
<v Speaker 4>the in the morning, right when the sun and you're like,

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01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 4>if it's ninety three million miles away, and like there

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01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.399
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be shadows underneath these clouds, right, But I mean

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01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:32.960
<v Speaker 4>even if they're so low, right, because these suddenly, So

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01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:36.119
<v Speaker 4>it just makes me think that the sun is definitely

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01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:39.319
<v Speaker 4>more local. It's you know what I mean, it's these

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01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:44.479
<v Speaker 4>days huge numbers, the crepuscular race, yeah, the compuscular rays.

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01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.479
<v Speaker 4>So those are those are some silver bullets for me.

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01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 3>And then I'm sorry, go ahead.

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01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Can I tell you one other thing that did happen

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01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.600
<v Speaker 4>to me? I wrote it down just a couple maybe

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01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a year to ago. I was trying to give your

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01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 4>podcast because I listened to it on Spotify and I

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01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 4>was trying to give it a five star rating and

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01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.800
<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't work. Really kept trying, kept trying like three

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01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 4>or four different times, and it wouldn't work. So so

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01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:15.800
<v Speaker 4>then I went to another podcast I listened to and

1303
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:20.159
<v Speaker 4>gave it a five star rating, and then it worked. Seriously, yeah,

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01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:21.840
<v Speaker 4>And then I went back to yours and then it

1305
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 4>gave you a five star rating. But it was like,

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01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:26.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, and it's pretty easy to do. And then

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01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I went to another podcast and then I gave that

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01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:30.680
<v Speaker 4>one a five star ratings, so I went back and

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01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.119
<v Speaker 4>then it then it worked because I tried like three

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01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:37.159
<v Speaker 4>times and I was like and then again, like sometimes

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01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:40.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this is going, what's going on here, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting. Yeah, well I appreciate it. You were able

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01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:47.000
<v Speaker 3>to finally get the five star review.

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01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I did. And yeah and then that I

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01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:59.479
<v Speaker 4>said that all my six. Yeah that's six and that's awesome.

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01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Well we're we're closing in on the last few minutes here.

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01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:03.399
<v Speaker 3>So I did want to give you a chance if

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01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:05.600
<v Speaker 3>there there was anything that you hadn't had a chance

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01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:07.319
<v Speaker 3>to cover yet that you would like to and that

1320
01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:13.319
<v Speaker 3>would be a great opportunity.

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01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:21.720
<v Speaker 4>No, just like I I want to get into it,

1322
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:22.479
<v Speaker 4>but I'm trying to.

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01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Just like the.

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01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:29.840
<v Speaker 4>The Trinity, I'm really not into the Trinity. And like

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01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.359
<v Speaker 4>that's what I remember I was telling you I was

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01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:35.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of a heretic. So it's like the Sun worship,

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01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:42.119
<v Speaker 4>and I guess so Hellenistic. It was that the Hellenistic

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01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.399
<v Speaker 4>Jews that were trying to had really influenced by the

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01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Greek culture and they were trying to put into the

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01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:55.680
<v Speaker 4>into Christianity. And but the thing is like I don't know,

1331
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:02.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't have all the facts. And remember my mother

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01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:06.640
<v Speaker 4>said to me, like doesn't matter who you are, if

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01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:10.840
<v Speaker 4>you're seekh or a Hindu, or Protestant or a Catholic,

1334
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:13.359
<v Speaker 4>these people as long as one thing you have in

1335
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:18.079
<v Speaker 4>common is you're seeking your relationship with your creator. So nuts,

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01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:19.920
<v Speaker 4>that's the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So well well done. I appreciate all your time and

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01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.079
<v Speaker 3>your input, and I know you've been through a lot

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01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:30.479
<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of months. We've been chatting back

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01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.039
<v Speaker 3>and forth, and you know, we'll continue to pray for

1341
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:36.079
<v Speaker 3>your daughter. All the best with her, and please do

1342
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:39.560
<v Speaker 3>stay in touch, and you know we appreciate all your

1343
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 3>input and thanks again for joining us today on this

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01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 3>early morning, on this Saturday, January fourth.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, it was great. Like I've I've always wanted

1346
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 4>to come on your podcast, and I was, you know, nervous,

1347
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:00.359
<v Speaker 4>never been on a podcast before. But I think it

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01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:04.479
<v Speaker 4>is great for people to just you know, share their

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01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:08.560
<v Speaker 4>experience and kind of get out and you know, get

1350
01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.079
<v Speaker 4>on a podcast and try to help people because I

1351
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:15.520
<v Speaker 4>think these it's a great way to communicate long form

1352
01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 4>like the short form stuff is it's it works too.

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01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:24.640
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I'm just glad to have an opportunity. And

1354
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean I tried to have some notes and I

1355
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:30.479
<v Speaker 4>tried to but that's part of my thing is I'm

1356
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:33.600
<v Speaker 4>just kind of get scattered sometimes.

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01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Well you did a tremendous job, and I'm just shocked

1358
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 3>at you know, ninety percent of the people who come

1359
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:43.239
<v Speaker 3>on here, it's the first time they've ever done anything

1360
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:46.479
<v Speaker 3>like this, and everybody does so well. So again, thank

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01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:48.760
<v Speaker 3>you again for joining us, and so all the listeners,

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01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:51.520
<v Speaker 3>thank you for your continued support. Just a heads up,

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01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's going to be Sunday, January twelfth will

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01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:59.079
<v Speaker 3>probably be an off week for us, so the podcast

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01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:03.800
<v Speaker 3>will resume on January the nineteenth. We've had a podcast

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01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.760
<v Speaker 3>i think every single week for the last I think

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01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:10.079
<v Speaker 3>since May or June, so we're gonna take the week off.

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01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I've got a very busy week next week, but we'll

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<v Speaker 3>pick back on the nineteenth of January. For Eric, I'm

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01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.199
<v Speaker 3>George God Bless you all. Thank you so much for

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01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:22.720
<v Speaker 3>listening and supporting the podcast. Stop by the website, the

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01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.479
<v Speaker 3>Flatterarth Files dot com, and if you'd like to join

1373
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.079
<v Speaker 3>us as a guest, it is f E Files Guests

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01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>at gmail dot com. For Eric, I'm George God bless

1375
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 3>each and every one of you. And until we meet again,

1376
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:35.960
<v Speaker 3>my friends, we will see you.

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01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:41.760
<v Speaker 5>I knowing it's been a struggle.

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01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't know you've had Spain.

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01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:49.600
<v Speaker 8>I feel the tie.

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01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 4>Hell down all the way.

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01:23:55.279 --> 01:24:01.479
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I know you feel them ain't the same.

1382
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:08.680
<v Speaker 8>That's a way to go from you feel like you've.

1383
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:14.039
<v Speaker 9>Lost your way. Don't give it.

1384
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:18.279
<v Speaker 3>No, don't give it and nevers home.

1385
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:22.600
<v Speaker 10>Don't let call the primise, it ain't done yet.

1386
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.039
<v Speaker 3>He's got up plaid.

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01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:27.359
<v Speaker 10>Why it's away time? Got up?

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01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Lem me come?

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01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.920
<v Speaker 8>Why a right god?

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01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:47.720
<v Speaker 9>M call, I can see the straight beside you. Child's

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01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 9>are putting up five. Oh, you're stronger than a thing,

1392
01:24:53.680 --> 01:25:00.199
<v Speaker 9>you guy, You're gonna be all right. You're excit. I've

1393
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:04.000
<v Speaker 9>been a dead found you beautiful.

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01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:05.640
<v Speaker 4>You're shoving ride.

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01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:12.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you're living, breathing, move you can hold your head

1396
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:21.479
<v Speaker 8>of hide. Don't give up. No, don't give in. Never

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01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:25.720
<v Speaker 8>lose home. Don't let go on the primise. It ain't

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01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:27.279
<v Speaker 8>done Yet's god?

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01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:32.680
<v Speaker 10>I plant why some way down the God of me recall,

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01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 10>don't give up, No, don't give in.

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01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:40.600
<v Speaker 3>You never lose home. Don't let go on the promise.

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01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:43.920
<v Speaker 4>It ain't God. Life, it's worth than man.

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01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.039
<v Speaker 10>What's a way down the God?

1404
01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Up?

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01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe cold?

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01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:54.159
<v Speaker 8>Why it's your way down?

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01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Got up?

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01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:56.720
<v Speaker 4>Record?

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01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:14.800
<v Speaker 10>Oh yes, what's the play down the god? Oh yeah, gott.

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01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:26.159
<v Speaker 5>Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose, hol

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01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:30.800
<v Speaker 5>don't The goal of the primisn in and done. Yeah's

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01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:36.920
<v Speaker 5>got a play. Watched The Kind of every Courts and

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01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 5>don't give no dog giving never It's home, don't let

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<v Speaker 5>go of.

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<v Speaker 8>The crimes, get ain't done, Others worth living? Watch and

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01:26:50.439 --> 01:27:06.960
<v Speaker 8>the God of every cos Oh the gods, White dunk God.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, ma'amy.
