WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.759 See I listen. I've done enough research in the last 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:04.519 couple of days to know you already. 3 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:06.759 Yeah, I'm awesome, because I'm awesome. But if I suck, 4 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.519 I'll blame it on the forest fire around my house 5 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:08.919 right now. 6 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.279 How's that for stress? Does that stress you out? 7 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.039 Like you're here, we're not really in the timber, but 8 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.399 it's a four thousand acre fire and officially yesterday I 9 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.600 saw it over my neighbor's barn and I was like, oh, 10 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:20.760 I could see it now. 11 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.000 And you've lived out on your own place for. 12 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.399 How long I've born and raised the Montana right or 13 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.559 we just moved back to Montana about a year ago. 14 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:32.039 Okay, so this is like the first real exposure with 15 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:32.679 your own place. 16 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.320 Yes, yes, And we have a bar lodge up there 17 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.719 that me and Billy Gibbons from ZZ Yeah, so that's fun. 18 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:39.799 He loves it up there too. 19 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.479 So yeah, we've started, by the way, so we'll just 20 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.200 go with it from here. So I had this list 21 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.399 of famous Montanans, okay, and you can give me your input, 22 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.320 like if you're like I got nothing on them, or 23 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.479 you can say, oh, I remember when I first saw them. 24 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.439 Maybe an influence they had on you. We'll just go 25 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:58.359 from there, right, and I'm going to try and do 26 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.600 an easy one here, an easy one here. Jeff Ammett 27 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:03.479 a pearl jam. 28 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.120 Yeah, I just saw him last week. Yeah, yeah, probably. 29 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.799 They played the Grizzly Stadium in Missoula, So I went 30 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.480 out there and saw it. 31 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:11.519 And when you go when you do that, do you go? Hey, 32 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:14.319 I'd like to speak to Jeff, like how do you 33 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:15.159 get that connection? 34 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.519 I don't know him personally, but I went to the 35 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:20.480 show with some radio guys up there in Missoula and 36 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:24.079 it was a rad show, And yeah. 37 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.079 What about Evil? 38 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.799 Knieval Montana grew up with the Knievals, so I do 39 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:31.319 personally know. I knew Evil. I knew Robbie. The Evil's 40 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.359 granddaughter was my nanny for a while. 41 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.280 So and was there was it like a drug for them? 42 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.120 They're like, hey, come do this crazy thing. We want 43 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.959 to have you jump over boxes or something. 44 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:44.200 Yeah, that's where I never jumped with them. But that's 45 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.920 inherently my hometown. Everyone's a psychopath, so my level of 46 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:50.560 oh I'm not a stunt man, everyone in this room 47 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:52.400 would be like, we've seen you do the most ridiculous 48 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.480 thing on motorcycles. Ever, and that's just kind of the 49 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:58.840 beat Montana way, right. But yeah, I came up performing 50 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.359 at Evil canievl days. My mom dated Evil briefly. His 51 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.840 name is Bob Canevel created him briefly in high school. 52 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.080 My cousin was engaged to Robbie. It's very Yeah, yeah, 53 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:08.360 I know. 54 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:09.759 The small town kind of thing. 55 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.120 Yeah, yeah, I might be related. 56 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.800 Hey you never know, right, Have you been injured before 57 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.240 on your bike? 58 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.199 Yeah? So I've tore my a cl I had my 59 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:20.680 ankle bone come out of my ankle and go into 60 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.919 my boot on my motorcycle. Crash went through windshield of 61 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:23.400 but buick. 62 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:27.039 Wow. Yeah, so you weren't jumping or anything. That was 63 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:27.520 just riding. 64 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:29.560 Yeah, that was just ripping through. But yeah, I got 65 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.319 plowed into by an old lady. Wow. 66 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:32.479 Do you still ride? 67 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.560 I got a motorcycle, but honestly, I don't enjoy it 68 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.479 like I used to because there's that constant thought of 69 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.800 looking behind my shoulder when right when you get impacted 70 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:41.719 that sure? Yeah? 71 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:47.439 Sure? So how about this one? Phil Jackson, NBA coach player, 72 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.120 Never okay, because you know, sometimes you grow up and 73 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.280 you're like, oh, this person's from here, and you're like, oh, 74 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.599 really didn't know that, But is he a coach? He said, yeah, Chicago. 75 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:58.680 Bulls Lakers from Montana. 76 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.280 Or he lives apparently from Montana. 77 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.680 Oh wow, no idea, I know Dana Carvey's from there. 78 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.919 Yeah, Dana, Okay, go ahead, Dana Carvey. Get did he 79 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.759 play a part in you? Maybe at one point? Want 80 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:08.360 to be a Canadian. 81 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.120 Didn't realize he was from Montana until like a year ago. 82 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:13.439 I was like, I love Data Carvey. 83 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.680 Right, It's funny how those things playing like You're like, okay, sure, yeah, 84 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.479 it makes sense. Always thought he's Canadian to be honest. 85 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.479 Oh yeah, until I read that Montana and accents are 86 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.400 very similar to Canadians, and I have a Canadian right 87 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.800 over there. Would you agree, Tom? Canadian? Tom? Your mom 88 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:27.879 sounds like me. 89 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:30.879 It feels like an insult. 90 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:38.080 Keep my mom's name. Yeah, I attracted to her. 91 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:45.960 Yeah. Last one, Dan Mortenson okay, Rodeo Hall of Famer 92 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.240 saddle Buck saddle Rider. Okay. See this is the thing. 93 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.840 When people come up with names from like where you're from, 94 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.800 you go, oh, okay, sure it sounds good that so 95 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.840 none of those people have played an influence. What what 96 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:02.560 do you think's made an influence for you in music 97 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:05.960 because you have a really storied career in music that 98 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.280 you've had to battle through. So what do you think 99 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:09.240 makes it for you? 100 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.000 I went and found most of my heroes in about 101 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.439 three weeks ago. I checked my final box on Mount 102 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.680 Rushmore and I got to sing Rooster with Jerry Cantrell. 103 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.040 Oh okay, And I got off stage and I was like, 104 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.439 now what it was like the last big moment you 105 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.839 know of you know, I got to jam with Dave Grohl, 106 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.000 I've got to play La Graine at Billy Gibbons and 107 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:29.920 this was getting to sing Rooster with Cantrell. And I 108 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.160 was like, my wife's like, I'm sure you'll make up 109 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.319 some other hero Yeah, So what do you go? People 110 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.439 were in my bedroom on my freaking posters in my 111 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:38.040 trailer house. 112 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:39.399 Where do you go from me? How do you find? 113 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:40.399 Like what's the motivation? 114 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:42.480 I mean, there's plenty of motivation. I want to do 115 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.680 my own music, but that was like the last box 116 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.519 to get checked of, like things I want to do 117 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.120 with heroes that are still alive. Yeah, you know, not 118 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:52.040 to say that. If Metallica wanted me a jam with 119 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.439 I'm sure, But I mean grunge was like here, you 120 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.360 know in posters in my bedroom and then zz Top 121 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.639 as well. I have very early childhood memories of them. 122 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:01.839 So I found them all, I ran them all down. 123 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:03.600 So yeah, now I guess I just go to the 124 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.399 University of Phoenix, get a janitorial degree and move on. 125 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.199 That's honorable. Yeah, right, that's hard work. I saw guy 126 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:11.279 in America's got talent, that's a janitor and he's singing. 127 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:12.240 He's doing he seems to be doing. 128 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.120 Okay. Custodial engineers, sir. 129 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:18.839 Yes, sir, what about the best one of those four? 130 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.319 What's that you have to throw one away? Can't you 131 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.920 have to forget it? Ever happened? What's the one you 132 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:23.399 get rid of? 133 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.000 Gosh, I don't know. I can't answer that. 134 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:27.800 Because they're all pretty spectacular. 135 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.360 Yeah, I mean maybe when Billy Gibbons made me sing 136 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.839 a Nancy Sinatra song with him and he gave me four. 137 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:38.160 Seconds notice awesome. Yeah, so you were just playing with 138 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:39.639 him and he was like, hey, you're going to sing this, 139 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.199 and he changed the words. 140 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.800 He's like, you're gonna sing. These boots are made for chuffling, 141 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.439 And I'm like what, Yeah, these boots are made for chuffling. 142 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.399 And I sat there and was like, these boots are 143 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.360 made for shuffling, and that's just what they'll do. And 144 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.480 he had a cheat sheet. He wrote, there's a live audience. 145 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:56.160 It was amazing. 146 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:57.240 That is amazing. 147 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.519 All right, Billy's the goofiest, sweetest guy you ever meet. 148 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:01.879 How did you come about meeting him? How'd you guys connect? 149 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:03.879 I had a verse in a chorus of a song 150 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.439 called this Beard came here to party, and a friend 151 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.519 of a friend got it to him and he heard 152 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.959 it and he drove to nash was coming through Nashville 153 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.360 on his bus, stopped in Nashville, said I want to 154 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.160 meet this guy, this beard guy, and so we wrote 155 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.279 the song, shook his hand, he left, thought I'd never 156 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.800 see him again. That night, he goes to dinner, some 157 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.600 guy walks up. Guy's name is Doug Frasier. So it's, 158 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:25.519 oh my god, it's easy, top big fan, blah blah blah, 159 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:27.000 and I get an autograph. Sure, no problem. What do 160 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.480 you do, Doug? Well? I find songs for sports teams, 161 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.040 and right now I'm stomped because the Boston Red Sox 162 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.879 are growing their beards out and I need a facial 163 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:37.519 hair song, and Billy literally opens his suit jacket and 164 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.639 hands him the mixtape from that day. Forty eight hours later, 165 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:42.680 I don't watch sports because I grew up with no television. 166 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:47.160 My favorite sports are snowmobilion SULD And forty eight hours later, 167 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.240 I'm watching my first Major League Baseball game, hearing my 168 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.120 song blasting in the background, and then they won the 169 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:55.319 World Series, and next thing I know, I'm at Fenway 170 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.639 Park painting home plate, singing the national anthem. It was 171 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.160 a bizarre sequence of events, but it's pretty cool. 172 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.920 You lay your head on your pillow that night, do 173 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.120 you even sleep because you're replaying all the things that happened. 174 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.040 You're like, what just happened so fast? 175 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.040 It was like a forty eight hours seventy two hours later, 176 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.439 it's on national television. Then they whatever clinched the playoffs, 177 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.120 go to the World Series. Then it's in USA today, 178 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.360 and I'm like, how did this happen so fast? And 179 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:22.600 then next thing I know, I want a flight to 180 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.560 Boston and I'm like, this is wild. 181 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.279 That is That's a fantastic story. Yeah, and you already 182 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:32.160 named four pretty amazing things that you've done with your career. 183 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.480 And then that's even if you have that story, that's 184 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.240 a pretty phenomenal. 185 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:37.680 Story, right, right, that was pretty wild. 186 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.120 So how do you level all that? How do you 187 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.839 keep all that you know compartmentalized and not like, hey, 188 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.000 I've painted home, played it fin way par I mean, 189 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.480 how do you keep all that stuff in check? 190 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.639 Well, when you grow up in a single wide trailer 191 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:50.800 and you have to go to the bathroom and an 192 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.680 outthouse out back, it's a it's a nice character building, 193 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.560 humbling experience in young age. 194 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.360 Yeah, my grandparents try to stay out of the trailer. 195 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.720 My grandparents had an out house. I think that's your everybody's. 196 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:02.759 You should at some point have to go to the bathroom, 197 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.000 walk out and see your business float by you to go, yeah, 198 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:06.959 this is not awesome. 199 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.120 Or if it goes in a dirt hole and it happens 200 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.240 to be forty five below zero, that's not awesome. 201 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.000 No, no, no, you contemplate a lot and learn a 202 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:14.959 lot of things in an outhouse. 203 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:16.959 I tell people that every night on stage, I said, 204 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.000 I you know a lot of people asked, did you 205 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.560 grow up grow going green saving the earth? Because they 206 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:23.319 know I grew up without electricity, And I'm like, no, 207 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.079 it's a character building exercise called poverty. You should try 208 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:26.800 it one time. 209 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.920 Right, because you have kids? 210 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:29.560 Right? Four? 211 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.120 Four? How do you because you don't have an outhouse? 212 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.120 No? No, we beat them a lot though. 213 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:39.080 That's good. Yeah, listen, you don't tell them twice, right, yeah, 214 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:40.759 all right, you're gonna play a song for us? Right? 215 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:41.639 Yeah? What do you? 216 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:42.720 What are you gonna play for us? 217 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:45.399 Let's start with devil you know, and thank you guys 218 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.360 for spending this song. This was the iHeart on the 219 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:47.879 Verge song. 220 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:49.519 So tell me, tell me about the song, tell me 221 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:51.120 what it means to you, Tell me about writing it. 222 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:53.919 I wrote it in Nashville and it was one of 223 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.120 those deals where I wrote it, went to my producer's place. 224 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.480 I was like, hey, check out what I wrote today. 225 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:58.919 And him and I were going to write a new song. 226 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.639 And if you know anything about the music business, producers 227 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.399 don't like cutting songs they didn't write right. Everybody wants 228 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.919 as many pieces as they can get. And he stopped 229 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.759 everything he was doing, closed the session he had opened 230 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.279 for the song we were gonna finish, and he's like, that's 231 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:13.159 a hit song. And he started micing me up, and 232 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.639 I'm like okay, so we record it. The storm rolled in, 233 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.799 We record the storm. The storm's still on the master 234 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.399 track and the intro of the song and away. I 235 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.279 moved to Montana because I thought I was gonna get 236 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.279 dropped on my record label. So that was kind of 237 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.440 my middle finger. See you, guys, I'm going back to 238 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.840 the woods song. And the same day we closed on 239 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.200 Me and Billy's Bar in Montana was August thirtieth, twenty 240 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.720 twenty three. That's the same day that my first single 241 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.960 after being in Nashville seventeen years when it's a national 242 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.799 radio and became my heart on the verge and it 243 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.759 was the top five Billboard hit. So after seventeen years 244 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.000 of swinging the bat missing, we finally connected. 245 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.159 Wow, that's an amazing story. All right, let's hear it? 246 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.919 All right? Is this thing Rayan over here? That's mute it. 247 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.279 Here we go, guys, double you know Count roff pl. 248 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:20.840 It's a devil you know, and the devil you don't. 249 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:25.960 Once in your head, once in your song. 250 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.519 On my life, it's been the same damn thing, still 251 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:36.039 chasing something I can't say. 252 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.679 It's a devil you numb and a devil you dun't. 253 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.639 I'm going out on my head, living in my life 254 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:49.799 on the ledge. 255 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.600 Kill your od you seventy five sounds amazing. Thanks awesome man, 256 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:06.440 Thank you sounds great in here. Uh tell me about 257 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:07.840 being an actor. 258 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.720 Oh no, being a mediocre actor? 259 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:12.039 Oh no, no, you can. 260 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:12.559 You can. 261 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:14.960 You can hike a mile of the Appalation trail and 262 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.240 say you're you hike the Appalation Trail. So you've been 263 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.360 in a couple of movies, right, four four? Okay? 264 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.399 And my actor let's started with this. My actor friends 265 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.480 hate me because they practice train have acting coaches, and 266 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.360 they're like, why do you always get the calls? I'm like, 267 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:32.840 I don't know why. 268 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.960 So I know you like one of the scenes, you 269 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.679 were like a barkeeper in a movie, Yes. 270 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:42.679 With Thomas Jane And who's the guy from Sam Worthington, Yes, 271 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.480 Heather Graham machine gun Kelly. 272 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:45.240 Yeah. 273 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.159 And that was my first one where a buddy of 274 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.559 mine is a Western historian. I love Western history. I 275 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.000 love Western movies, the Old West. That's why I moved 276 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.759 and bought that eighteen ninety six lodge. And uh so 277 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.440 he lied to get me on that movie set and 278 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:00.919 I had like two lines. But do you remember Thomas Jane. 279 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.960 He was the punisher on The Marblesaries. He's in Boogie Nights, 280 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.840 The Mists. He's Stephen King's favorite actor. When I was drinking, 281 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.440 I drank a lot on that set and him and 282 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.120 I got canned and we started a wrestling match and 283 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.840 I rolled him down a snowy hill wearing my movie 284 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.039 outfit because designers made. 285 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.159 Not real clothes. By the way, it's just enough to 286 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.360 be in a movie, right, not high quality. 287 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.720 The problem was he showed up at my little cabin 288 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.320 the next day with a fat lip, a cut above 289 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.320 his eyebrow, and he's in a movie set where he 290 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.600 has to look the same every day. And I was 291 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:36.600 waking up with the worst anxiety in my life is 292 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.279 I hear action, boom boom. They're shooting the movie outside 293 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.240 of my cabin. It's very rare that you stay on 294 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.519 the movie set in an eighteen hundreds town and I'm like, 295 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:47.759 oh my god, my ticket, Hollywood. It was real. It 296 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:50.639 was real. Brief I beat up Thomas Jane, the punisher. 297 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.759 It wasn't fighting my anger. It was laughing. 298 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.840 But the producers. 299 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.159 Didn't think it was funny because we were sending it 300 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.559 hard anyway. He knocks on my door. Open the door 301 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.559 and there he is with the cut and the fat lip, 302 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:04.480 and I'm like, oh no, he has a pipe and 303 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.279 he goes pal, I tell you what, You're one of 304 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:09.399 the realist dudes I've ever met. I'll never do a 305 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.320 film without you again. And I was like, huh. And 306 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.000 then I told my wife that, and she's like, God, 307 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:18.879 why do people have to encourage this behavior? So sure's 308 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.840 the day is long. I get a call about three 309 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.279 months later from an Australian director and he said, hey, 310 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.559 I got a film we're doing with Richard Dreyfuss and 311 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:30.720 Thomas Jane and a couple other people. Isaiah Mustafa, he 312 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.679 was the x NFL player, that was the old spice guy. 313 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.759 He set out of the shower a half horse, half man, 314 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.960 and I had a scene with him and we sent 315 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:42.279 it in the scene and I died in that film. 316 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.559 So far, I've died in a lot of films, and 317 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:46.000 the last one I did, I didn't die, and I 318 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:47.639 was bummed. I was like, oh, I just busted my 319 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:49.279 slump and I was gonna blow my head off or 320 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.080 cut my throat, come on, and so anyway, so we 321 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.840 did that film and him and I became buddies. And 322 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.960 then I get a call from that director again right 323 00:13:58.000 --> 00:13:59.679 when I moved to Montana. This is the wildest one. 324 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.120 He goes, hey, hey, I've got this role for an 325 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.360 outlaw named Red Benton. He's got a red beard. You're perfect. 326 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:06.960 You don't have to screen test, you don't have to 327 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.399 do nothing. Just show up. You're the perfect guy. Okay, 328 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.519 I'm off. I show up. Hey, who's my scene with 329 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.519 Samuel L. Jackson? And I'm like sure, wow. So there 330 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.519 I am in the Old West now with Samuel L. Jackson. 331 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:23.120 I'm like, do I beat him up? Right? And so me? 332 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.200 I trained and I told the guys too. I'm like, 333 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:26.919 I want to do my own stunts. And this British 334 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.720 stunt guy that does all the Double seven movies, he's like, oh, 335 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.600 an actor that wants to do his own stunts. I'm like, 336 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.399 I'm actually a musician. And he goes ooh, a musician 337 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.000 that wants to be an actor that wants to do 338 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.159 his own stunts. And then we started sparring on the 339 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.559 wrestling mat and he's like, Okay, I get it, You're 340 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.000 good at this. I'm like, I'm from but I grew 341 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.799 up fist fighting and wrestling and doing crazy stuff, you know, 342 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.279 so he's like he loved it. So we worked out 343 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.039 these scenes all day at Pitchfork. Stab followed by a 344 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:54.399 right hook, pistol comes out, the left fire, miss go down, 345 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:57.039 roll through the pig mud and there's actual pigs in 346 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.639 this guy and the poor kid that I was on 347 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.600 top of, I got a little aggressive and he had 348 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.679 his head and some pig pe and he was not 349 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:05.960 very stoked about it. But then Sam came out and 350 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.000 the film doesn't come out yet, but Sam does some 351 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.039 really bad, mean stuff to me, and he pulled my 352 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:14.039 hair and that was the best moment ever because he said, Hey, Tim, 353 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:15.960 how hard you wanting to pull your hair? And I said, 354 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:17.960 mister Jackson, as hard as you want. I've been waiting 355 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.879 for you to kill me my whole life. And he 356 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.600 busted out laughing, and then he did give us an MF. 357 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.600 Or I was hoping he'd dropped the MF. He said 358 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.039 the F word more in film than any other actor 359 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.720 in history. And when he went to do what he 360 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:34.039 was gonna do, I'm not gonna give it all away, 361 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:37.440 even though I did, he goes, we can't even see 362 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.559 this mfor's throat with that MF and beard and I'm like, yes, 363 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:42.960 thank you God. And so I was like, I'll present 364 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.440 my neck this way, mister Jackson, and he goes, Okay, to. 365 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.759 Man, you have some fantastic stories. 366 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.639 And then I was just in Butte back in Montana 367 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:54.120 at the bar, and I get a call from one 368 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.799 of the Polish brothers and they did Astronaut Farmer and 369 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.399 some other stuff, and they said, Hey, we got this 370 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:02.120 role for Heath the Hessian. You're gonna show up, and 371 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.559 we got a transam. You're gonna play guitar, and I 372 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:07.720 just got the trailer. I'm like, all over the trailer 373 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.279 playing guitar. Look like a total tool. I'm wearing glasses 374 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:12.960 in a church. But it's funny because the church is 375 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:16.600 like where my mother I think was baptized. And it's 376 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.279 a very artsy la film and there's a bunch of 377 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.240 cross dressers in it, and I'm like, my mom's gonna 378 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.360 kill me in the church with crossdressing. Yeah, which we 379 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.840 became good buddies. We're sitting in the backstage. My dude, 380 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.320 that skirt kills. 381 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.120 That's not on my Bengo card of things. I thought 382 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:36.519 you would say today, right, that guy said he looked 383 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:36.879 great in that. 384 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.639 Skirty Yeah, they're cool guys. And I ended up playing 385 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:41.559 piano in the film, which I don't play piano, but 386 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.039 I learned a song quickly, just the notes, and then 387 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.000 play guitar in it, and then had a sick burnout 388 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.120 scene in the transam and that film was called there there. 389 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:50.720 So I got two movies coming out next year. 390 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:52.799 Dude, that's amazing. Congratulations. 391 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.960 Yeah, small roles, but they just keep calling, you know. 392 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:56.399 Now, they got to start somewhere right. 393 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.919 I think I'm officially like a sag after a union member. 394 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.399 I don't know what it means, but I got a card. 395 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:01.679 You want to see it, Paul or what? No? 396 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.400 I believe you? Yeah, you don't have to show me 397 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.119 to prove it. I'll go ahead and take your word 398 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:07.400 for you seem like an honorable man. 399 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:08.359 Uh. 400 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.319 And then that only makes sense to ask this question. 401 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.519