Speaker 1: See I listen. I've done enough research in the last
Speaker 1: couple of days to know you already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm awesome, because I'm awesome. But if I suck,
Speaker 2: I'll blame it on the forest fire around my house
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: How's that for stress? Does that stress you out?
Speaker 2: Like you're here, we're not really in the timber, but
Speaker 2: it's a four thousand acre fire and officially yesterday I
Speaker 2: saw it over my neighbor's barn and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I could see it now.
Speaker 1: And you've lived out on your own place for.
Speaker 2: How long I've born and raised the Montana right or
Speaker 2: we just moved back to Montana about a year ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is like the first real exposure with
Speaker 1: your own place.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And we have a bar lodge up there
Speaker 2: that me and Billy Gibbons from ZZ Yeah, so that's fun.
Speaker 2: He loves it up there too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've started, by the way, so we'll just
Speaker 1: go with it from here. So I had this list
Speaker 1: of famous Montanans, okay, and you can give me your input,
Speaker 1: like if you're like I got nothing on them, or
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, I remember when I first saw them.
Speaker 1: Maybe an influence they had on you. We'll just go
Speaker 1: from there, right, and I'm going to try and do
Speaker 1: an easy one here, an easy one here. Jeff Ammett
Speaker 1: a pearl jam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw him last week. Yeah, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: They played the Grizzly Stadium in Missoula, So I went
Speaker 2: out there and saw it.
Speaker 1: And when you go when you do that, do you go? Hey,
Speaker 1: I'd like to speak to Jeff, like how do you
Speaker 1: get that connection?
Speaker 2: I don't know him personally, but I went to the
Speaker 2: show with some radio guys up there in Missoula and
Speaker 2: it was a rad show, And yeah.
Speaker 1: What about Evil?
Speaker 2: Knieval Montana grew up with the Knievals, so I do
Speaker 2: personally know. I knew Evil. I knew Robbie. The Evil's
Speaker 2: granddaughter was my nanny for a while.
Speaker 1: So and was there was it like a drug for them?
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, come do this crazy thing. We want
Speaker 1: to have you jump over boxes or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I never jumped with them. But that's
Speaker 2: inherently my hometown. Everyone's a psychopath, so my level of
Speaker 2: oh I'm not a stunt man, everyone in this room
Speaker 2: would be like, we've seen you do the most ridiculous
Speaker 2: thing on motorcycles. Ever, and that's just kind of the
Speaker 2: beat Montana way, right. But yeah, I came up performing
Speaker 2: at Evil canievl days. My mom dated Evil briefly. His
Speaker 2: name is Bob Canevel created him briefly in high school.
Speaker 2: My cousin was engaged to Robbie. It's very Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: The small town kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I might be related.
Speaker 1: Hey you never know, right, Have you been injured before
Speaker 1: on your bike?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've tore my a cl I had my
Speaker 2: ankle bone come out of my ankle and go into
Speaker 2: my boot on my motorcycle. Crash went through windshield of
Speaker 2: but buick.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so you weren't jumping or anything. That was
Speaker 1: just riding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just ripping through. But yeah, I got
Speaker 2: plowed into by an old lady. Wow.
Speaker 1: Do you still ride?
Speaker 2: I got a motorcycle, but honestly, I don't enjoy it
Speaker 2: like I used to because there's that constant thought of
Speaker 2: looking behind my shoulder when right when you get impacted
Speaker 2: that sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure? So how about this one? Phil Jackson, NBA coach player,
Speaker 1: Never okay, because you know, sometimes you grow up and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this person's from here, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: really didn't know that, But is he a coach? He said, yeah, Chicago.
Speaker 2: Bulls Lakers from Montana.
Speaker 1: Or he lives apparently from Montana.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, no idea, I know Dana Carvey's from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dana, Okay, go ahead, Dana Carvey. Get did he
Speaker 1: play a part in you? Maybe at one point? Want
Speaker 1: to be a Canadian.
Speaker 2: Didn't realize he was from Montana until like a year ago.
Speaker 2: I was like, I love Data Carvey.
Speaker 1: Right, It's funny how those things playing like You're like, okay, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Always thought he's Canadian to be honest.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, until I read that Montana and accents are
Speaker 2: very similar to Canadians, and I have a Canadian right
Speaker 2: over there. Would you agree, Tom? Canadian? Tom? Your mom
Speaker 2: sounds like me.
Speaker 1: It feels like an insult.
Speaker 2: Keep my mom's name. Yeah, I attracted to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last one, Dan Mortenson okay, Rodeo Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: saddle Buck saddle Rider. Okay. See this is the thing.
Speaker 1: When people come up with names from like where you're from,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, okay, sure it sounds good that so
Speaker 1: none of those people have played an influence. What what
Speaker 1: do you think's made an influence for you in music
Speaker 1: because you have a really storied career in music that
Speaker 1: you've had to battle through. So what do you think
Speaker 1: makes it for you?
Speaker 2: I went and found most of my heroes in about
Speaker 2: three weeks ago. I checked my final box on Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore and I got to sing Rooster with Jerry Cantrell.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, And I got off stage and I was like,
Speaker 2: now what it was like the last big moment you
Speaker 2: know of you know, I got to jam with Dave Grohl,
Speaker 2: I've got to play La Graine at Billy Gibbons and
Speaker 2: this was getting to sing Rooster with Cantrell. And I
Speaker 2: was like, my wife's like, I'm sure you'll make up
Speaker 2: some other hero Yeah, So what do you go? People
Speaker 2: were in my bedroom on my freaking posters in my
Speaker 2: trailer house.
Speaker 1: Where do you go from me? How do you find?
Speaker 1: Like what's the motivation?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's plenty of motivation. I want to do
Speaker 2: my own music, but that was like the last box
Speaker 2: to get checked of, like things I want to do
Speaker 2: with heroes that are still alive. Yeah, you know, not
Speaker 2: to say that. If Metallica wanted me a jam with
Speaker 2: I'm sure, But I mean grunge was like here, you
Speaker 2: know in posters in my bedroom and then zz Top
Speaker 2: as well. I have very early childhood memories of them.
Speaker 2: So I found them all, I ran them all down.
Speaker 2: So yeah, now I guess I just go to the
Speaker 2: University of Phoenix, get a janitorial degree and move on.
Speaker 1: That's honorable. Yeah, right, that's hard work. I saw guy
Speaker 1: in America's got talent, that's a janitor and he's singing.
Speaker 1: He's doing he seems to be doing.
Speaker 2: Okay. Custodial engineers, sir.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what about the best one of those four?
Speaker 1: What's that you have to throw one away? Can't you
Speaker 1: have to forget it? Ever happened? What's the one you
Speaker 1: get rid of?
Speaker 2: Gosh, I don't know. I can't answer that.
Speaker 1: Because they're all pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe when Billy Gibbons made me sing
Speaker 2: a Nancy Sinatra song with him and he gave me four.
Speaker 1: Seconds notice awesome. Yeah, so you were just playing with
Speaker 1: him and he was like, hey, you're going to sing this,
Speaker 1: and he changed the words.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're gonna sing. These boots are made for chuffling,
Speaker 2: And I'm like what, Yeah, these boots are made for chuffling.
Speaker 2: And I sat there and was like, these boots are
Speaker 2: made for shuffling, and that's just what they'll do. And
Speaker 2: he had a cheat sheet. He wrote, there's a live audience.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 1: That is amazing.
Speaker 2: All right, Billy's the goofiest, sweetest guy you ever meet.
Speaker 1: How did you come about meeting him? How'd you guys connect?
Speaker 2: I had a verse in a chorus of a song
Speaker 2: called this Beard came here to party, and a friend
Speaker 2: of a friend got it to him and he heard
Speaker 2: it and he drove to nash was coming through Nashville
Speaker 2: on his bus, stopped in Nashville, said I want to
Speaker 2: meet this guy, this beard guy, and so we wrote
Speaker 2: the song, shook his hand, he left, thought I'd never
Speaker 2: see him again. That night, he goes to dinner, some
Speaker 2: guy walks up. Guy's name is Doug Frasier. So it's,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's easy, top big fan, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and I get an autograph. Sure, no problem. What do
Speaker 2: you do, Doug? Well? I find songs for sports teams,
Speaker 2: and right now I'm stomped because the Boston Red Sox
Speaker 2: are growing their beards out and I need a facial
Speaker 2: hair song, and Billy literally opens his suit jacket and
Speaker 2: hands him the mixtape from that day. Forty eight hours later,
Speaker 2: I don't watch sports because I grew up with no television.
Speaker 2: My favorite sports are snowmobilion SULD And forty eight hours later,
Speaker 2: I'm watching my first Major League Baseball game, hearing my
Speaker 2: song blasting in the background, and then they won the
Speaker 2: World Series, and next thing I know, I'm at Fenway
Speaker 2: Park painting home plate, singing the national anthem. It was
Speaker 2: a bizarre sequence of events, but it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: You lay your head on your pillow that night, do
Speaker 1: you even sleep because you're replaying all the things that happened.
Speaker 1: You're like, what just happened so fast?
Speaker 2: It was like a forty eight hours seventy two hours later,
Speaker 2: it's on national television. Then they whatever clinched the playoffs,
Speaker 2: go to the World Series. Then it's in USA today,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, how did this happen so fast? And
Speaker 2: then next thing I know, I want a flight to
Speaker 2: Boston and I'm like, this is wild.
Speaker 1: That is That's a fantastic story. Yeah, and you already
Speaker 1: named four pretty amazing things that you've done with your career.
Speaker 1: And then that's even if you have that story, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Story, right, right, that was pretty wild.
Speaker 1: So how do you level all that? How do you
Speaker 1: keep all that you know compartmentalized and not like, hey,
Speaker 1: I've painted home, played it fin way par I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you keep all that stuff in check?
Speaker 2: Well, when you grow up in a single wide trailer
Speaker 2: and you have to go to the bathroom and an
Speaker 2: outthouse out back, it's a it's a nice character building,
Speaker 2: humbling experience in young age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandparents try to stay out of the trailer.
Speaker 1: My grandparents had an out house. I think that's your everybody's.
Speaker 1: You should at some point have to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: walk out and see your business float by you to go, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not awesome.
Speaker 2: Or if it goes in a dirt hole and it happens
Speaker 2: to be forty five below zero, that's not awesome.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you contemplate a lot and learn a
Speaker 1: lot of things in an outhouse.
Speaker 2: I tell people that every night on stage, I said,
Speaker 2: I you know a lot of people asked, did you
Speaker 2: grow up grow going green saving the earth? Because they
Speaker 2: know I grew up without electricity, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's a character building exercise called poverty. You should try
Speaker 2: it one time.
Speaker 1: Right, because you have kids?
Speaker 2: Right? Four?
Speaker 1: Four? How do you because you don't have an outhouse?
Speaker 2: No? No, we beat them a lot though.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, listen, you don't tell them twice, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, you're gonna play a song for us? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna play for us?
Speaker 2: Let's start with devil you know, and thank you guys
Speaker 2: for spending this song. This was the iHeart on the
Speaker 2: Verge song.
Speaker 1: So tell me, tell me about the song, tell me
Speaker 1: what it means to you, Tell me about writing it.
Speaker 2: I wrote it in Nashville and it was one of
Speaker 2: those deals where I wrote it, went to my producer's place.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, check out what I wrote today.
Speaker 2: And him and I were going to write a new song.
Speaker 2: And if you know anything about the music business, producers
Speaker 2: don't like cutting songs they didn't write right. Everybody wants
Speaker 2: as many pieces as they can get. And he stopped
Speaker 2: everything he was doing, closed the session he had opened
Speaker 2: for the song we were gonna finish, and he's like, that's
Speaker 2: a hit song. And he started micing me up, and
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, so we record it. The storm rolled in,
Speaker 2: We record the storm. The storm's still on the master
Speaker 2: track and the intro of the song and away. I
Speaker 2: moved to Montana because I thought I was gonna get
Speaker 2: dropped on my record label. So that was kind of
Speaker 2: my middle finger. See you, guys, I'm going back to
Speaker 2: the woods song. And the same day we closed on
Speaker 2: Me and Billy's Bar in Montana was August thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. That's the same day that my first single
Speaker 2: after being in Nashville seventeen years when it's a national
Speaker 2: radio and became my heart on the verge and it
Speaker 2: was the top five Billboard hit. So after seventeen years
Speaker 2: of swinging the bat missing, we finally connected.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's an amazing story. All right, let's hear it?
Speaker 2: All right? Is this thing Rayan over here? That's mute it.
Speaker 2: Here we go, guys, double you know Count roff pl.
Speaker 3: It's a devil you know, and the devil you don't.
Speaker 2: Once in your head, once in your song.
Speaker 4: On my life, it's been the same damn thing, still
Speaker 4: chasing something I can't say.
Speaker 2: It's a devil you numb and a devil you dun't.
Speaker 4: I'm going out on my head, living in my life
Speaker 4: on the ledge.
Speaker 1: Kill your od you seventy five sounds amazing. Thanks awesome man,
Speaker 1: Thank you sounds great in here. Uh tell me about
Speaker 1: being an actor.
Speaker 2: Oh no, being a mediocre actor?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you can.
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 1: You can hike a mile of the Appalation trail and
Speaker 1: say you're you hike the Appalation Trail. So you've been
Speaker 1: in a couple of movies, right, four four? Okay?
Speaker 2: And my actor let's started with this. My actor friends
Speaker 2: hate me because they practice train have acting coaches, and
Speaker 2: they're like, why do you always get the calls? I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: So I know you like one of the scenes, you
Speaker 1: were like a barkeeper in a movie, Yes.
Speaker 2: With Thomas Jane And who's the guy from Sam Worthington, Yes,
Speaker 2: Heather Graham machine gun Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that was my first one where a buddy of
Speaker 2: mine is a Western historian. I love Western history. I
Speaker 2: love Western movies, the Old West. That's why I moved
Speaker 2: and bought that eighteen ninety six lodge. And uh so
Speaker 2: he lied to get me on that movie set and
Speaker 2: I had like two lines. But do you remember Thomas Jane.
Speaker 2: He was the punisher on The Marblesaries. He's in Boogie Nights,
Speaker 2: The Mists. He's Stephen King's favorite actor. When I was drinking,
Speaker 2: I drank a lot on that set and him and
Speaker 2: I got canned and we started a wrestling match and
Speaker 2: I rolled him down a snowy hill wearing my movie
Speaker 2: outfit because designers made.
Speaker 1: Not real clothes. By the way, it's just enough to
Speaker 1: be in a movie, right, not high quality.
Speaker 2: The problem was he showed up at my little cabin
Speaker 2: the next day with a fat lip, a cut above
Speaker 2: his eyebrow, and he's in a movie set where he
Speaker 2: has to look the same every day. And I was
Speaker 2: waking up with the worst anxiety in my life is
Speaker 2: I hear action, boom boom. They're shooting the movie outside
Speaker 2: of my cabin. It's very rare that you stay on
Speaker 2: the movie set in an eighteen hundreds town and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, my ticket, Hollywood. It was real. It
Speaker 2: was real. Brief I beat up Thomas Jane, the punisher.
Speaker 2: It wasn't fighting my anger. It was laughing.
Speaker 1: But the producers.
Speaker 2: Didn't think it was funny because we were sending it
Speaker 2: hard anyway. He knocks on my door. Open the door
Speaker 2: and there he is with the cut and the fat lip,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, he has a pipe and
Speaker 2: he goes pal, I tell you what, You're one of
Speaker 2: the realist dudes I've ever met. I'll never do a
Speaker 2: film without you again. And I was like, huh. And
Speaker 2: then I told my wife that, and she's like, God,
Speaker 2: why do people have to encourage this behavior? So sure's
Speaker 2: the day is long. I get a call about three
Speaker 2: months later from an Australian director and he said, hey,
Speaker 2: I got a film we're doing with Richard Dreyfuss and
Speaker 2: Thomas Jane and a couple other people. Isaiah Mustafa, he
Speaker 2: was the x NFL player, that was the old spice guy.
Speaker 2: He set out of the shower a half horse, half man,
Speaker 2: and I had a scene with him and we sent
Speaker 2: it in the scene and I died in that film.
Speaker 2: So far, I've died in a lot of films, and
Speaker 2: the last one I did, I didn't die, and I
Speaker 2: was bummed. I was like, oh, I just busted my
Speaker 2: slump and I was gonna blow my head off or
Speaker 2: cut my throat, come on, and so anyway, so we
Speaker 2: did that film and him and I became buddies. And
Speaker 2: then I get a call from that director again right
Speaker 2: when I moved to Montana. This is the wildest one.
Speaker 2: He goes, hey, hey, I've got this role for an
Speaker 2: outlaw named Red Benton. He's got a red beard. You're perfect.
Speaker 2: You don't have to screen test, you don't have to
Speaker 2: do nothing. Just show up. You're the perfect guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm off. I show up. Hey, who's my scene with
Speaker 2: Samuel L. Jackson? And I'm like sure, wow. So there
Speaker 2: I am in the Old West now with Samuel L. Jackson.
Speaker 2: I'm like, do I beat him up? Right? And so me?
Speaker 2: I trained and I told the guys too. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I want to do my own stunts. And this British
Speaker 2: stunt guy that does all the Double seven movies, he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: an actor that wants to do his own stunts. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm actually a musician. And he goes ooh, a musician
Speaker 2: that wants to be an actor that wants to do
Speaker 2: his own stunts. And then we started sparring on the
Speaker 2: wrestling mat and he's like, Okay, I get it, You're
Speaker 2: good at this. I'm like, I'm from but I grew
Speaker 2: up fist fighting and wrestling and doing crazy stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: so he's like he loved it. So we worked out
Speaker 2: these scenes all day at Pitchfork. Stab followed by a
Speaker 2: right hook, pistol comes out, the left fire, miss go down,
Speaker 2: roll through the pig mud and there's actual pigs in
Speaker 2: this guy and the poor kid that I was on
Speaker 2: top of, I got a little aggressive and he had
Speaker 2: his head and some pig pe and he was not
Speaker 2: very stoked about it. But then Sam came out and
Speaker 2: the film doesn't come out yet, but Sam does some
Speaker 2: really bad, mean stuff to me, and he pulled my
Speaker 2: hair and that was the best moment ever because he said, Hey, Tim,
Speaker 2: how hard you wanting to pull your hair? And I said,
Speaker 2: mister Jackson, as hard as you want. I've been waiting
Speaker 2: for you to kill me my whole life. And he
Speaker 2: busted out laughing, and then he did give us an MF.
Speaker 2: Or I was hoping he'd dropped the MF. He said
Speaker 2: the F word more in film than any other actor
Speaker 2: in history. And when he went to do what he
Speaker 2: was gonna do, I'm not gonna give it all away,
Speaker 2: even though I did, he goes, we can't even see
Speaker 2: this mfor's throat with that MF and beard and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: thank you God. And so I was like, I'll present
Speaker 2: my neck this way, mister Jackson, and he goes, Okay, to.
Speaker 1: Man, you have some fantastic stories.
Speaker 2: And then I was just in Butte back in Montana
Speaker 2: at the bar, and I get a call from one
Speaker 2: of the Polish brothers and they did Astronaut Farmer and
Speaker 2: some other stuff, and they said, Hey, we got this
Speaker 2: role for Heath the Hessian. You're gonna show up, and
Speaker 2: we got a transam. You're gonna play guitar, and I
Speaker 2: just got the trailer. I'm like, all over the trailer
Speaker 2: playing guitar. Look like a total tool. I'm wearing glasses
Speaker 2: in a church. But it's funny because the church is
Speaker 2: like where my mother I think was baptized. And it's
Speaker 2: a very artsy la film and there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: cross dressers in it, and I'm like, my mom's gonna
Speaker 2: kill me in the church with crossdressing. Yeah, which we
Speaker 2: became good buddies. We're sitting in the backstage. My dude,
Speaker 2: that skirt kills.
Speaker 1: That's not on my Bengo card of things. I thought
Speaker 1: you would say today, right, that guy said he looked
Speaker 1: great in that.
Speaker 2: Skirty Yeah, they're cool guys. And I ended up playing
Speaker 2: piano in the film, which I don't play piano, but
Speaker 2: I learned a song quickly, just the notes, and then
Speaker 2: play guitar in it, and then had a sick burnout
Speaker 2: scene in the transam and that film was called there there.
Speaker 2: So I got two movies coming out next year.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's amazing. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, small roles, but they just keep calling, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, they got to start somewhere right.
Speaker 2: I think I'm officially like a sag after a union member.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it means, but I got a card.
Speaker 2: You want to see it, Paul or what? No?
Speaker 1: I believe you? Yeah, you don't have to show me
Speaker 1: to prove it. I'll go ahead and take your word
Speaker 1: for you seem like an honorable man.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then that only makes sense to ask this question.
Speaker 1: Is the follow up based off Where You Live? Is
Speaker 1: Yellowstone is filmed up in that neck of the woods,
Speaker 1: a pretty big show. Have you tried to get on
Speaker 1: that show?
Speaker 2: I have. I tried to get on nineteen twenty three, sure,
Speaker 2: but they wanted me to shave my beard.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a no go. It's a hard no for
Speaker 1: you not shaving the beard and what like, because you
Speaker 1: don't want it to grow back, or it took so
Speaker 1: long to get it that beautiful I have.
Speaker 2: There's like a butthole here somewhere under there. It's like
Speaker 2: I want to see IM not good. I shaved my
Speaker 2: beard one time when I was like twenty three and
Speaker 2: cried for six months. So my wife's like, for our
Speaker 2: mental health, like the family's mental health, Please don't.
Speaker 1: What is your Do you have a trick for your beard?
Speaker 1: Do you have like a product?
Speaker 2: Do you like to use woul?
Speaker 1: Do you have anything special?
Speaker 2: Some oil? Okay, well I just trimmed it and they
Speaker 2: took every time I trim it, they take too much off.
Speaker 2: And I realized I'm never going to catch Billy Gibbons,
Speaker 2: Like no, that's he's an oddity, right. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm taking by it and down. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: catch him and I can't even I just grow hair
Speaker 2: in strange places and my beard doesn't grow any further.
Speaker 1: So you're an entrepreneur, so I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: tim Montana beard oil to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might should add that to the menu. Right.
Speaker 1: I have a friend that started a beard oil company
Speaker 1: and he got out of it because he kept having
Speaker 1: certain people of character want him to come and do
Speaker 1: demonstrations privately.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, So potentially just a word of caution there, right,
Speaker 1: All right, Oklahoma, you're now stranger to prior. You've played
Speaker 1: there before with Born and Raised, haven't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah? And that's my daughter was just asking me last night.
Speaker 2: She's like, have you met Zach Bryan? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he hung out on the bus at Born and Raised.
Speaker 2: Because I have Charlie Sheen's old Pravo bus. It's a
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine PRAVOXL. He had like no next to
Speaker 2: no miles on it and it was in storage.
Speaker 1: So Charlie's you're being passive like you were not hitting
Speaker 1: that story correctly because you don't just have his bus.
Speaker 1: You're friends with him, yes, yeah, we go by. You
Speaker 1: are tight with him, yes, because of the video you
Speaker 1: did toget.
Speaker 2: He directed my mostly Stone video. We hit it off,
Speaker 2: became really good friends and he actually helps me with
Speaker 2: some of this acting stuff. I'll call him stressing out
Speaker 2: and he's like, bro, chill out, just do it. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, but what do I do? How do I say?
Speaker 2: The is that the year thou? He's like, dude, leave
Speaker 2: me alone. But uh yeah. So he called me about
Speaker 2: his bus and this was like ground zero party bus
Speaker 2: for every episode of Two and a half Men. And
Speaker 2: he had it in a warehouse and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to sell it, and I'm like, I can't
Speaker 2: afford it. And then he threw a price in me.
Speaker 2: He said, hey, pay the shop bill, you can have it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get more use out of it than me.
Speaker 2: So I bought this bus. Then I went and got
Speaker 2: my CDL, went to truck driver school, did the whole
Speaker 2: CDL passenger and you amazing.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, who's the most famous person
Speaker 1: you have on your phone? Charlie Sheen pretty big, right,
Speaker 1: Bill Gimm's pretty big?
Speaker 2: Oh, Dave girl, I don't know. I've got a lot
Speaker 2: of them. How do you measure fame?
Speaker 1: Ah by people's pace, I guess.
Speaker 2: Josh Brolin text me a lot, Danos.
Speaker 1: Josh Brolin texts you a lot. Also didn't have that
Speaker 1: on my car.
Speaker 2: I have a group text with Robert Patrick from Terminator
Speaker 2: to the cop and Josh Brolin and we text each
Speaker 2: other fun little things.
Speaker 1: Huh what kind of fun little things? The pictures?
Speaker 2: No, well, funny stuff. There's so I took Terminator to
Speaker 2: a cabin I used to hang out with you used
Speaker 2: to hang out at when I was a teenager. And
Speaker 2: it's a funny story I'm not going.
Speaker 1: To say on the air, but not an on air story.
Speaker 2: Got it. When you live in a single white trailer
Speaker 2: and you want to get away from your parents and
Speaker 2: you're in puberty, you hike to a cabin in the woods.
Speaker 2: So Roger that I took him there, and then him
Speaker 2: and Josh Brolin started a big thing, and they always
Speaker 2: talk about the cabin. So, yeah, is that not normal
Speaker 2: for city kids to find an abandoned shadow?
Speaker 1: We just go with the gravel road, but just go
Speaker 1: love yourself. Yeah, yeah, we could. We could tell. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't need to go to a cabin to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: a single one Josh Blin knows about.
Speaker 2: These walls are pay per bin.
Speaker 1: We could talk to you for I know some other
Speaker 1: stories about you that I wanted to ask, but we're
Speaker 1: running out of time. But I wanted to give you
Speaker 1: a chance to play another song. If you'd like and
Speaker 1: talk about veterans because I know that that's an important
Speaker 1: part of all this for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So we have the American Thread charity
Speaker 2: shoot that I started four or five years ago, and
Speaker 2: I think in four years we raised one point one
Speaker 2: million dollars. And this started with me designing a guitar
Speaker 2: with Gibson that we auctioned off thinking would raise thirty
Speaker 2: grand for the Chris Kyle Foundation. It raised one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty grand, and so we gave that check and
Speaker 2: Chris Kyle's dad said, you just changed to life and
Speaker 2: I really was like wow, like ford by that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to do more. And a
Speaker 2: lot of these charity companies reach out to me to
Speaker 2: play a concert for vets and I'm always like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do it unless you let me see
Speaker 2: your books. And they're like what, I'm like, how much
Speaker 2: profit are you taking? And those things are important because
Speaker 2: some of these groups they advertise this stuff and they're
Speaker 2: taking eighty percent, don't own twenty And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to give you my time if you're paying
Speaker 2: yourself five hundred gred year, not going to do it.
Speaker 2: So I got my own group together, all volunteer base.
Speaker 2: The only guy that charges us is the outhouse guy,
Speaker 2: because nobody holds poop for free.
Speaker 1: It's good life motto.
Speaker 2: I was like, fair enough, the outhouse man gets paid.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we've raised one point one million dollars and
Speaker 2: found groups that we can check their books make sure
Speaker 2: that they're you know, and people have to make a
Speaker 2: little bit of money to operate. We totally get that right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you keep ten to twenty percent to pay your people
Speaker 2: to go out raise more money for vets. That's great,
Speaker 2: but that's not what we do. We do it all
Speaker 2: volunteer base. Give him a check. And when we hit
Speaker 2: a million dollars, that was a crazy moment and supporters
Speaker 2: collective souls come out. Charlie Sheen's come out, Aaron Lewis
Speaker 2: has come out. I mean, who else is? I saw
Speaker 2: Lee Greenwood having a conversation with Charlie Sheen at my
Speaker 2: event and I was like, that's not something you see
Speaker 2: every day, folks.
Speaker 1: Is it true that you and you had Dave girl
Speaker 1: do barbecue for someone, a vet's family after he passed away?
Speaker 2: We did, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And you played in this bat you guys did a
Speaker 1: concert in his backyard first family at a funeral on
Speaker 1: a July.
Speaker 2: I did that, but not with Dave. It was with
Speaker 2: Dave's barbecue buddy, okay, Billy Terrell. So Billy Terrell taught
Speaker 2: Dave girl how a barbecue and a helicopter pilot. We
Speaker 2: went to Fort Campbell about a year ago and I
Speaker 2: brought my kids and we were able to call in
Speaker 2: strikes with helicopters. My sons were and the helicopters are there,
Speaker 2: the one sixtieth Night Stalkers. They're the most elite helicopter
Speaker 2: pilots in the US military. So they're calling in bomb
Speaker 2: strikes and we meet these guys. Shane Barnes and his
Speaker 2: daughters were there, very little girls, and we get a call.
Speaker 2: I see it on the news like three months later,
Speaker 2: helicopter crews killed in the Mediterranean. It was Shane and
Speaker 2: his team, the guys that we were just with, and
Speaker 2: so that one hit hard. And then the photo that
Speaker 2: went on the internet is him and his two daughters
Speaker 2: and his wife and my little boys in the background
Speaker 2: on the helicopter. So I had this deep connection with it.
Speaker 2: And then I get a Facebook from his wife, Samantha Hey,
Speaker 2: we probably can't afford you, but what would you charge
Speaker 2: to play the fourth of July in honor of Shane
Speaker 2: for a small crowd in a backyard. And I was like, OK,
Speaker 2: I'll see you on the fourth of July. I had
Speaker 2: Fourth of July plans with my family because I've been
Speaker 2: touring so much. But I'm like, sorry, guys, I have
Speaker 2: to go do this. So drove from Montana with all
Speaker 2: the equipment picked up. The guys in Nashville drove up,
Speaker 2: and then Billy Terrell, who's Dave Girl's buddy, bought a
Speaker 2: barbecue truck up and there was maybe what twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five people there. Guys. It was very small, but I
Speaker 2: was burned out and tired when I got there because
Speaker 2: it's about a thirty hour drive. Me and my buddy
Speaker 2: team drove it. When I got there, his dad grabbed
Speaker 2: me and gave me the biggest bear hug and just
Speaker 2: lost it and started bawling. And he's like, your music
Speaker 2: reminds me of him. And he said right before he died,
Speaker 2: he would just call and be like, hey, have you
Speaker 2: heard this Tim Montana song? Have you heard this Tim
Speaker 2: Montana song? And the day he died, he was wearing
Speaker 2: a big sky in Montana hat and apparently that day
Speaker 2: I spent with him at Fort Campbell, he just was
Speaker 2: in so he was emotional and it was special and
Speaker 2: his dad watching him rock out to my lyrics and
Speaker 2: then collapse on a chair in tears was something that
Speaker 2: was just burning my brain forever.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that stuff means a lot to me.
Speaker 2: And you get in a Facebook message like that, I
Speaker 2: don't know who on planet Earth would say no or you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, not go. That's the reason. I mean that
Speaker 1: moment right there is the reason you got into all this.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a phenomenal story. Yeah, and you've been telling
Speaker 1: some pretty great stories, but that one is that's really special.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well listen, we're glad you came by. You got
Speaker 1: one more song for us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, after I start crying, stop crying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about this song. Tell us where it
Speaker 1: came like, what it means to you, where it came from?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is savage. It just went top ten on
Speaker 2: Media Base and Billboard. Thanks for spinning it. And this
Speaker 2: is the new record. This is the title track. So
Speaker 2: a lot of the songs on here have a theme
Speaker 2: of the apocalypse. I mean, look around, we look out
Speaker 2: the windows by crap. But I just thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2: I wrote this with a guy named Nathan Barlow who
Speaker 2: had a band called Luna Halo, who recently started to
Speaker 2: blow up because Queen Swift covered one of his songs.
Speaker 2: So they're doing a new record. But his other job
Speaker 2: is he's Keith Keith Urban's lead guitar player, and he's
Speaker 2: got neck dads and stuff like that. He's really cool.
Speaker 2: It's hard to find the rocker guys to write with
Speaker 2: in Nashville, but he's won. And so we just started
Speaker 2: laying this track down and just screaming everything is savage.
Speaker 2: And then when it came time to name the record,
Speaker 2: we went and did all the photography in the snow.
Speaker 2: It was like below zero. It was nasty, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: this photo shoot savage and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: the record needs to be named savage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we kind of have a theme of the apocalypse,
Speaker 2: and that's maybe when I moved back to Montana, you know,
Speaker 2: have a fighting chance. Well, the aliens are coming from
Speaker 2: outer space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would never go there. Why would they go
Speaker 1: to Montana? They don't like beautiful places.
Speaker 2: We're here for evil can evel.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go to Montana and savage.
Speaker 2: Tom. Are you ready, bud? We got Canadian Tom here, folks.
Speaker 1: How about it for Canadian to introduce everybody. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure we give everybody a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lead guitar player. He's my most senior member of
Speaker 2: the band. How many years you've been in this bud?
Speaker 2: Six years? And he worked for me for about two years.
Speaker 2: He's from Nelson, British Columbia's like middle of nowhere, right
Speaker 2: and the way the crow flies us not far from
Speaker 2: where I was born. But we all know that invisible
Speaker 2: line makes people drive in the fast line with their
Speaker 2: turn signal on ten miles under the speed limit. We
Speaker 2: love our Canadians. But also Tom didn't tell me that
Speaker 2: he won the fur Trapper of the Year award until
Speaker 2: he was in the band for two years. When he
Speaker 2: was sixteen, he won the North American Fur Trapper of
Speaker 2: the Year award because he's a mountain man as well
Speaker 2: from Canada.
Speaker 1: And that's not a joke, Like, that's not a slang dictionary.
Speaker 2: And I always tell Tom, I'm like, if you're interviewing
Speaker 2: a guy named Tim Montana, from Montana that grew up
Speaker 2: in the mountains. You might want to lead with that.
Speaker 2: You're the most fur trapping man in Canada.
Speaker 3: I tried to tell him when I auditioned, but I
Speaker 3: was too nervous.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Who else you got?
Speaker 2: Kyle law here from Statesboro, Georgia. He uh his claim
Speaker 2: to fame on the Bush. We just wrapped the tour
Speaker 2: with Bush and Jerry Cantrell and Candlebox. He would just
Speaker 2: sometimes strip to his underwear on stage and not tell me,
Speaker 2: and they weren't like cute underwear. They were like old
Speaker 2: man underwear with like a pea stain. And my wife
Speaker 2: called me and she's like, you know, okay, it's funny
Speaker 2: to go almost naked, but can he like get some
Speaker 2: cool underwear. And the great thing was Gavin Rosdale came
Speaker 2: out to watch one show and comment on the band.
Speaker 2: And that was the one show and he came up
Speaker 2: and he goes the way your drama thrusted the symbols
Speaker 2: because he likes to thrust his symbols at the end,
Speaker 2: like bury him in there, and it's.
Speaker 1: A weird way to hit him, but sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we always have to remind him like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: you know that's on the jumbo tron, right, but people
Speaker 2: go nuts they love it? Yeah, God, God forbid. We
Speaker 2: bring a little personality back to rock.
Speaker 1: Amen. Right, no correlation, I understand, Yeah, went on.
Speaker 2: It was a little cold.
Speaker 1: Out, Yes it was, Yes, it was sir.
Speaker 2: Whose underwear were those? I think were yours? And then
Speaker 2: on the base guitar the newest member of the band.
Speaker 2: This guy is really interesting. He left the United States
Speaker 2: when he was six months old to go to France,
Speaker 2: and he graduated high school in France, graduated college in France.
Speaker 2: And I thought he was a military brat. No, he's
Speaker 2: a Disney brat. His dad does music for Disney. And
Speaker 2: then he mentions a couple of weeks in the band
Speaker 2: that his dad's a songwriter. I'm like, did he write
Speaker 2: anything I might know? And he goes, yeah, my dad
Speaker 2: wrote a song called Cotton Eye Joe. And I was like, okay, Jackson,
Speaker 2: So jack say something in French? Have you ever sang
Speaker 2: any of Cotton Eye Joe in French? French? Never try
Speaker 2: it real quick, just just the way did you come from?
Speaker 2: My age?
Speaker 1: I go, you gotta perfect that in sound check and
Speaker 1: make him do that in between songs when you're changing guitars.
Speaker 1: That is, that's phenomenal. I've got quite an eclectic group, right,
Speaker 1: You've fit in perfectly with us because we go all
Speaker 1: over the place, we can rarely stay on topic. But
Speaker 1: so you got your final song for us Savages, Savage Yes,
Speaker 1: and Rocklahoma. We can't wait to see you on the stage.
Speaker 2: Rokolahoma Ready, Savage, counter off, bud.
Speaker 4: Beautiful down my last cigarette, let us steal, ain't hit me.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just scared to death trying to drive right
Speaker 3: best signs.
Speaker 2: Him ten kmod.
Speaker 1: That was phenomenal. Man, you guys are great. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with us and coming in
Speaker 1: early just to chat with us, and and hope you
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and good luck tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for grabbing me, thank you for
Speaker 2: supporting the single. Hell yeah, get my mam a bigger
Speaker 2: double waddles. Let's go