WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.960 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.000 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. In 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.519 sure your most prized possess yets. 4 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.120 Hey, good up to here, everybody, Welcome to Eye on 5 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.879 the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 6 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:22.199 Got packed house today. The interns are all getting ready 7 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:25.000 to pack it up, say goodbye. But I got Blake 8 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:29.120 with me wearing his hat. No haircut problems today. 9 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:30.559 No, not yet. 10 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.079 But I do have to go to the barber tomorrow, 11 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.119 so see what happens to go full mohawk. 12 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.079 I'm just gonna let it go. I like it. 13 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.280 I like right, Yeah, why not? I think I got 14 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.359 a board meeting tomorrow. They'll love seeing me with him along. 15 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.039 You know these jokes, you know, nice haircut, kill your barber. 16 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.000 You didn't kill your barber, but you're gonna get a 17 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:46.640 different one. 18 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:47.079 Yeah. 19 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.159 I'm just making the change. Yeah, I'm taking my mother's approach. 20 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.359 Where every two weeks it's a new hairstylist. Yeah, you 21 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.479 used to call it in the bullpit. Yeah, I got 22 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.560 a clipper sign up in there. We got a Dujuan 23 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:00.560 with us, We got mats back in the house. You 24 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.159 got Ray got of control, so it should be fine. 25 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:05.920 How you doing, man, good man. This is a great 26 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:06.840 crew we've got today. 27 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:12.040 Yeah, Juan does my things, Ray does my things, Matt 28 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.840 does my socials. Yeah, everybody, what do you do? I 29 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.840 just I was about to ask, I pretend I know 30 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.120 what I'm talking about yesterday. I didn't know what the 31 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.760 hell I was talking about, Like today and tomorrow. You know, 32 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.239 try to get baby, do you get you? Try to 33 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.879 get some calls and get me through the day. So 34 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.120 what's going on? How about that Warriors? 35 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:32.120 Yeah? 36 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.359 The NBA Playoffs had been a little while man. Yeah, 37 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.519 all the underdogs, the Inderducks coming through. 38 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.599 It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that was such a shock for me. 39 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.239 Honestly, I thought the Tea Walls would blow out the Warriors, 40 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.239 especially just coming off of Game seven. 41 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.760 Yeah. Uh and then I. 42 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.159 Didn't watch it, but I feel like what I heard 43 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:52.640 was the Warriors controlled it for the most. 44 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.920 Oh yeah, start to finish without and then Curry was 45 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.200 out for you know, two quarters, two plus quarters. Yeah, 46 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.359 I don't know before more. I don't know if he's 47 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:02.760 gonna yeah, I don't know if he's going to. 48 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.560 Be no day. He's out for a week at least 49 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:07.840 a week, I think, didn't. 50 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:13.240 They Yeah, so we'll see can they do it? 51 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:13.879 Can they do it? 52 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.479 And all the other games are pretty Look at the 53 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:18.159 Indie Indiana. 54 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:22.439 Indiana up to zero. Who would have thought that? No? 55 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.680 And then the way they've done it coming back. 56 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.719 That's their style though they always come They're always a 57 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.680 comeback team. Can't count them out. 58 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:31.599 Do you think. 59 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.759 Just tying this into the community, do you think Matherin 60 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.240 still has a long has a place long term with 61 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:38.800 the Pacers. 62 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:39.080 Oh? 63 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.280 That I don't know, but but I mean absolutely, just 64 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.039 mean long is his long term plan with the Pacers? 65 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.560 I would assume so long term, give me a seven years. 66 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.319 Do you think he ends up becoming a star with 67 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:52.960 the Pacers or do you think that he has to 68 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.520 change environment abuse? That's tough, I'll say yes, but yes. 69 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:59.840 Do you think he's taking a step back from his 70 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:00.520 key season? 71 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:05.639 That's it. That's why I'm asking. 72 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.000 So that's why I'm bringing this up, man, is that well, 73 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:10.080 you need to go somewhere else to get the minute? 74 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:10.240 Team. 75 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:12.759 I asked about this coming into the show, and you 76 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:14.240 talked that he's getting some minutes, right man? 77 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:18.879 Yeah, I feel like if he has a future for 78 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:22.159 the Pacers, it's depending on what TJ McConnell does. 79 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:22.879 His age. 80 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.759 I feel like a backup point guard between him and. 81 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:28.919 And he's not really a back point guard. He's a 82 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.919 shooting guard. He's a guy who's but you're just talking about. 83 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.159 Yeah, he's like the first playoff the bench, so. 84 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.240 Moving him up on the bench. No, the guy could play. 85 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.639 I don't know. Answer your question. 86 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.840 I think two things can be true at the same time, right, 87 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:42.599 I don't. 88 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:43.080 I don't know. 89 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.080 I haven't really seen him play that much this year. 90 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:49.840 But to your to your point, he has not saying 91 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.039 his play no, no, no play the situation. 92 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:54.280 Yeah, such a situation. 93 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.159 And the way they're playing right now, you can't argue 94 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:58.479 that their style of play is wrong. 95 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.039 No, no, no, he would be change. Why you fix that? 96 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:02.240 It's not broken? Right whatever? 97 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.120 Yeah? No, good, good question. I don't I don't know. 98 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.280 I don't know. We'll see and Tej is getting minutes too, right, Yeah, 99 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:08.639 we have doing what TJ does. 100 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.960 Yeah, and then fifteen he'll get fifteen minutes, ten points, 101 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:17.439 two rebounds, five steals and burne Yeah, burnees and dives 102 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:18.519 and things like that. 103 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.879 Cool. 104 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:20.959 Cool, Let me tell you to today's show, we have 105 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.240 Fred Harvey. We hadn't had Fred Harvey on the show 106 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.000 in a while. You a track coach. They've been pretty 107 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:27.959 pretty good this year. We'll talk to him about that, 108 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.360 see what's going on moving forward at the end of 109 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.959 the year now, and then at the four to seventeen hour, 110 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.839 we're gonna have a mistraining Chapel. Yeah, Brenon Chapel. I 111 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:38.240 hope that's the way you say it. I'll ask I 112 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:39.519 think that's what you say, all. 113 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.160 Right, I mean, let me say it because if it's wrong, 114 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.319 it's just natural for me to be wrong when people's names. 115 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.800 But by older intern, it's going to say Chapel. He said, 116 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:50.160 did you call me an older intern? 117 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:50.399 Yeah? 118 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.759 Yea, I used to learn, So I'll take that. Yeah, 119 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.120 it makes it makes a situation a little bit easier 120 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.399 to digest. You left the argy. No, I wish I 121 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.839 would Okay, yeah, you'd still be playing. No, I wouldn't 122 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.759 be playing, Okay, I just have a lot more money, okay, yeah. 123 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:05.600 Yeah, So yeah, we'll have him at the four seventeen 124 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.839 Just how you know the job, you know his expectations, 125 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.120 you know, how does you know Tommy? 126 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:10.680 Uh? 127 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:12.040 You know he knows. 128 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.399 Murph, so you know, we'll go with that and then 129 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.759 just see maybe you know how long has he been 130 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.319 in Tucson or how many times has he been to 131 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.040 tuc soon before? 132 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.480 So okay, cool, that'll be that'll be that. So what 133 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.480 else is going on? Guys? You busy with yours? Your job? 134 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:28.439 Do you have a job? 135 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:29.240 I do? 136 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:30.879 I do have a job. I need one of those hats. 137 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.199 By the way, still I can't get you in. They 138 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.160 sold out on the first day. I had to buy 139 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.600 him before the first game. Yeah, you should have come 140 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:42.000 to the first asked you. 141 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.480 Did you go no? Huh, nobody went look at this movie. 142 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.680 Nobody supported me. No, No, I'm good. 143 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:53.000 Kobe is the two thousand? Kobe and Henry went, yeah, 144 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:54.319 I got I got the whole. 145 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:54.959 I got the whole. 146 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.480 The second the B team, you got the B team 147 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.399 going to see Yeah, yeah, I got quiet. 148 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:04.240 Kobe went yeah that was his cheering. 149 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.800 Yeah, okay, Uh, what else is going on today? Before 150 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.480 we get into the stuff Golden State? 151 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.959 Yeah, you've get some You've got some baseball softball stuff 152 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.160 coming up. How did the tennis team do and didn't 153 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.240 follow the bens? 154 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:17.920 Then the women's out. 155 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:22.120 The men women women lost the first round matchup against Illinois. 156 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:25.399 Think it was like four one man swept both their 157 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:26.480 opening matches. 158 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.360 They go to Virginia. Yeah, I think that's it is 159 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.279 not tomorrow or this week day for sure. I think 160 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.399 is it like a super regional like the softball and 161 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:40.160 it's sweet. It's a one say and then the women 162 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:41.879 the softball team plays tomorrow. 163 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:50.160 Yeah right, you win? Yeah, okay, and. 164 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.560 It should more than likely be uf there there and 165 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.639 there was almost the number two seed in that in 166 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.319 the in the big Tilter, in the Big Twilter. 167 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.879 That's just one player of the year for you. They're 168 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:08.439 taking all His thunder was so exciting. Oh my god, 169 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:10.639 I'm so sorry. Listen. 170 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:16.319 Listen, listen, listen, nobody listens. You're gonna be okay. One 171 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.319 time I say somebody's name right too? Sorry, Ray God, 172 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:19.839 bless it. 173 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.079 You see. These interns needs to learn. You should have 174 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.800 hit the bleek button. You should still but still do 175 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.079 it every time. Are you talking? Get this. 176 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.160 If there's a lot of because that's when Blake spoke 177 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.519 every time I'm on a zoom called the automatically mute me. 178 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:39.879 You have any you have any breaking news? For us 179 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.120 on your end going on business the city. Yeah, I 180 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.199 mean we're working. 181 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.240 I mean we work closely with the county too, so 182 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.600 obviously the county a lot. We're working with Major League 183 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.160 Baseball right now on a couple of different things. Yeah. 184 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.759 So hopefully I'm gonna give you a six week timeline. 185 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.120 I'll be able to report twos like last time. Yeah, 186 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:00.519 but it came to fruition to not yeah. 187 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:02.439 Yeah, yeah, Okay, I eventually you told me what was 188 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.079 going on. I can't tell you right now. I can't 189 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:04.279 tell you. 190 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:06.560 I can sign the NDA's. I don't want to screw 191 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.839 something up. You can imagine that it's bad enough. You 192 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.480 guys don't go to the things that I get here. 193 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:12.639 Do you imagine if I actually screwed them up bad 194 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:13.519 enough that they didn't come? 195 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:16.519 You're right? Touche? 196 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:21.839 Yeah, okay, So wait, can real quick? So into school 197 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:22.879 for the three of you guys, right? 198 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.079 How many? How many last last day of classes? Today? 199 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:27.759 Was today? 200 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:31.279 My last class? Holy con You finished on all your 201 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.159 smart but Gray's coming back is not finishing. But one 202 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:38.279 is one is that you're you're graduating. That's amazing, guys. 203 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.320 First off, congratulations, Okay, are we excited to go into 204 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.840 the real world. That's an absolute no. I see the 205 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.080 look on your faces. I think one beat himself. 206 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.759 A little bit. We'll check that diaper afterwards. 207 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:53.120 But uh, it is it's a monumental, uh event that 208 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.159 you guys are graduating college. 209 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:57.360 Man, that's that's amazing. You got a motion. 210 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.200 Today, for sure you should the last time walking out 211 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.879 of the journalism building at the U of A. 212 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:04.639 Yeah, did you kiss the ground like a pastor? Did 213 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:05.519 you kiss the ground? 214 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:05.679 No? 215 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:10.200 Not that, not that clean? It is pretty? 216 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.039 Is that even the journal the journalism building is some 217 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:15.720 other person's name, and it's not just journalism, it's a 218 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:16.399 bunch of other people. 219 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.960 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, not until. 220 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.639 There's an actual journalism building. 221 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.879 While I kiss the floor, yeah yeah, well one h 222 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.519 she graduated. We're under U. 223 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.120 We need some money for us to renovate and clean 224 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:31.559 the floors. 225 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:33.600 Can you help us? 226 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.000 I just do it myself at that point, and then 227 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:38.559 Matt is going back to l A. 228 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.600 He's an l A kid, West Coast kids. O, cal, 229 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:44.120 what are you gonna do in l A. 230 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:45.799 Joy? 231 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.000 Yeah, be out of this heat like it call it 232 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:54.159 a gap year. Yeah, camp here, all right. 233 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.240 Let's just check it in. It's exciting that time yere. 234 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.519 Right, right, Okay, so guess some NBA stuff out of 235 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.080 the way. Is there a game tonight? Two games? That's 236 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.720 the other guys, Right. Boston was a Boston and that 237 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:09.720 was another upset. Oh, that was another upset. 238 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:14.120 Yeah, Aaron, Yeah, we had the last second shot to 239 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:14.480 win it. 240 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:15.159 Right. 241 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.919 What do you feel about Aaron Gordon's dreads? How do 242 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.679 we feel about he had? He had more dreads than 243 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.679 I know, But they're like evolving and they. 244 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:25.879 That's true. 245 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.320 Yeah, here's a question because I asked Jay this yesterday 246 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.360 and you guys know this. You guys are young kids. 247 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.960 When he played here ten years ago, what do you 248 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.759 know about Aaron Gordon when he was here? Not much, 249 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:41.200 exactly exactly. That was our discussion. When he's they're here, 250 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.759 they kind of isolated him. We never really got to 251 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.600 tell their stories. Yeah, now that they're out, you kind 252 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.279 of hear more and more. And I don't want to 253 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.399 get on my soapbox for yesterday show, but we just 254 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:53.440 didn't know who they were. 255 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.679 Do you think that was more because of Miller? Yeah? 256 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:59.759 And had arms length off, Yes. 257 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.320 No question, And that's kind of the way they've moved 258 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.960 it because because Greg Byrne was the ad, he didn't 259 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.240 mind that, which makes no sense because he's kind of 260 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.840 a publicity guy. Yeah, and you know, you know you're 261 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.519 in that business. Did did media hound you guys? Probably not? 262 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.759 Because you were in a small market, probably and in 263 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.759 the second second string team. 264 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.120 What do you mean when I was playing? Yeah? No, 265 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:26.320 I mean New York is a beach. 266 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:28.679 Well yeah, but but you're not. You're not the Yankees, 267 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.440 You're not the Mets. We were the Mets. Did people care? 268 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.159 Yeah? You weren't with the Mets when we played in Brooklyn? 269 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:37.720 What are you talking about? 270 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:37.879 You? 271 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.759 Your team that? Did you play for the Mets? Yeah? 272 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.600 What level? Did you not know? I played for the 273 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.480 New York Mets? Are you in this discussion? 274 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.240 Like, no, I don't know? A thousand times on air? 275 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:49.759 Who are you kidding me? 276 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:51.480 Who are no? No? 277 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:51.679 No, No? 278 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.279 You didn't make the majors, did you? I did not know? 279 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:55.039 My point? 280 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.000 Yeah, but you were saying I didn't. My checks were 281 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.799 signed by the Mets. Jesus, what I played in New York? 282 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:00.840 Do you know. 283 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.879 Exactly what I'm saying? Where in New York's in Brooklyn? 284 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:11.159 You ever heard of Brooklyn? Yeah? My point, did they 285 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.039 ever cover? Did teams cover you? We had like a 286 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.480 few thousand people in the locker room in Brooklyn. It 287 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.320 was wild. You had thirteen thousand fans. It was nuts. 288 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.159 Every in games. Yes, it's still New York. 289 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.480 People are gonna go watch you with the double Hey, listen, man, 290 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.919 I had to pay people to come watch me, especially, 291 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:29.159 I'm not even trying. 292 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.080 To be funny. No, yeah, you had that many people going. 293 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.200 Yeah, but now when you're talking about like when I 294 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.720 played in Hagerstown, Okay, hagar'stown. 295 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.399 Now there was barely maybe too. That was low a. 296 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.879 I was Florida State League, which Ports Saint Lucy wasn't nobody, 297 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:46.240 but that was home. So did you mind so in Brooklyn? 298 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.679 In Brooklyn? Did you mind the media? I love the media. 299 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.399 I always have loved the media. I love the I 300 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.600 mean the interaction. I mean I love the interaction piece. 301 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.080 Some guys can't stand it right, people hate it and 302 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:03.360 some people are jerk about it too. Yeah with you so, no, 303 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.399 I mean what you hate I'm allowed to talk about 304 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:08.480 for two minutes. 305 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.120 Every time he's been accurate because I've said that baseball 306 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.799 players were you know, if you give kids out of 307 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.440 high school the major bonuses, they're kind of jerky. 308 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.639 I mean they know you have to have this fake 309 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.960 confidence anyway to be a professional athlete. And once you 310 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.759 are able and have the capability of believing it, yeah, 311 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.559 and it comes true. You can't blame them. 312 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:31.159 You have a chip. Yeah yeah, I know you well too. 313 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.240 If they're they've been cocky all the life, they're not 314 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:34.840 going to change. And now that they have two million 315 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:36.639 bank I mean you're gonna get humbled at some point, 316 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.200 no question, no question. Eventually that's what happens. Yeah, kicked 317 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.679 in them. Yeah, what do you mean, I'm not good enough? 318 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:44.519 Ty five? 319 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:44.960 Yeah? 320 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.639 You know, and you know those guys. 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In with me 433 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:35.880 today is Blake Eager and now on the phone we 434 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:40.200 have coach Fred Harvey, longtime friend and longtime track coach 435 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.759 at Jule Fred How are you, Oh. 436 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:43.759 I'm bowing? 437 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.160 Well, no, I'm just getting ready for a great Big 438 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:48.240 twelve championship. 439 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:51.200 How has this been for you the first year? A 440 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.680 lot of the other Spring sports have done fantastically, Well, 441 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.000 I know, you guys have done well too. 442 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.400 Yeah, well, you know, and that's you know, when you 443 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.599 look at the off the board with the different sports 444 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:05.160 that we're talking about, and I know the big thing 445 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.200 was and we get fixated on it, and I appreciate 446 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.079 that is that they you'll look at how, you know, 447 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.079 the football conferences comparing them the State twelve, you know, 448 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:20.559 to the Pac twelve, the basketball conference, and everyone gets 449 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.519 fixated on that, and so the you know, the perception 450 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:27.200 is that we're moving into a conference that is a 451 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.880 much better conference than where we where we came from. 452 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:33.799 And my model has always been, you know, and so 453 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.279 are you are you all ready for the Big twelve? Well, 454 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:38.160 I know, I think you have that backward. There's a 455 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:40.200 Big twelve ready for us. 456 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.160 Yeah yeah. So how do they handle it nicely? 457 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:43.759 Well? 458 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.160 Well, you know, I mean, well, you know, let's not 459 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.279 you know, a situation, it's really more you get driving 460 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:54.000 that driving that message into you know, athletes, heads and 461 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.559 you know, just general people you know, you know in 462 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.039 the public, and you know it wasn't hosting, bragging or 463 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:03.920 anything of that sort of. But you look across the board, 464 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.400 you know, you know, from sport to sport and think, okay, 465 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:08.839 there's that conference really that. 466 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:10.559 Much better than where we came from. 467 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:14.200 Uh. I love the conference. I love the diversity of it, 468 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:16.759 you know, so that's a lot of fun. I've missed, 469 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:21.160 you know, the whole the traditional Pac twelve. But you know, 470 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.559 we have to see some different things now. 471 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:26.920 Hey, coach, have you have you seen the opportunities grow 472 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.920 from a recruiting standpoint now that you're in the Big 473 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:30.839 twelve and opening you in different markets? 474 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.759 No, because because you know, and I'll speak just for 475 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:39.880 our sport only ran how we get to the national. 476 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.680 Championships, you know why we? Uh? 477 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:47.039 How you get to world championships? Nothing has changed for 478 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.319 us in that capacity. 479 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:49.119 Uh. 480 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.799 And you know, for example, you take we completed our 481 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.559 indoor season and you you think about what does it 482 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.559 take to get to the NCAA Championships. You have to 483 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.799 be in a sixteen in the country. It doesn't matter 484 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:06.119 what region of the country. That you're in, you have 485 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.160 to be in the top sixteen. So from a competitive 486 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:13.119 standpoint of view, if we ran dual meets every single 487 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.920 week and we had to run duel meets against you know, 488 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:21.079 the schools in the conference, it would absolutely affect us 489 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:25.599 in that capacity. So our kids are young men and women, 490 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:29.319 you know, they get to meet the same way and 491 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:35.799 there are they are international national athletes, So we recruit 492 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.279 from the entire world to begin with. 493 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:40.920 Yeah, yeah, no, no question. 494 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.440 So you started the season kind of you know, so 495 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:47.559 it's a new landscape or new board that's empty. Did 496 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.000 anybody surprise you coming into the conference? Who's excelled really 497 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:52.200 more than you'd expected? 498 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:57.079 Well, you know, I'm really proud of we have a 499 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.279 number of people at me athletically, you know, you know, 500 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:05.400 from the men's women's friends, jumps, throws, we you know, 501 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.279 in the hurdles, we've done an amazing job. Where you 502 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.400 look at you know, our rankings, you know, going into 503 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.000 this final week and this is these are the rankings. 504 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:16.680 To me that means more than anything else. 505 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.400 One week first regranking, okay, whatever, people maybe haven't jumped, thrown, 506 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.400 or done whatever they. 507 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:22.799 Need to do. 508 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.200 So you start getting into this time of the year. 509 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:26.720 So now everyone's going. 510 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.319 Into their conference championship now. 511 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:32.000 And so I uh, you know, going in you know, 512 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:36.039 uh into the conference. You know, our our men's team 513 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:39.599 has ranked number six in the conference. Uh, the ladies 514 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.680 are number five in the conference, but the men are 515 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.480 ranked number sixteen, you know, in the in the country. 516 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.000 And so we're you know, from a competitive standpoint. 517 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:50.480 Of view, you know, we're you. 518 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.559 Know, we're we're we're one of these so be there. 519 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.720 So that that didn't necessarily surprise you, but one of 520 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.440 the one of the I think, you know, good surprises 521 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.920 for us. You know, we we have you know, nine 522 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:06.599 teams or nine events in our track and build events 523 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.079 that are all ranked in the top twenty five, ranked 524 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:13.279 in the top twenty five in the country. And that 525 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:16.559 that means right there, you know, it showed there wasn't 526 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:21.160 a surprise, but a pleasant you know, welcoming of you know, 527 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:25.000 the diligence that you know, the athletes took upon themselves 528 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:28.400 during the summer, you know, and continuing you know, during 529 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:29.079 the fall. 530 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:30.000 And here we are. 531 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:35.079 Now the you know, the biggest you know, you know, 532 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:39.319 you know PTOs to this group here is that we 533 00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:43.039 have you know, eight top fifty performances in the world, 534 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:46.680 you know, on this team, which is huge. And two, 535 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.119 if you have to answer your actual question or any surprises, 536 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.279 well there's the biggest surprises. What I like to call 537 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.960 the buy in, and the buy in is we are 538 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.119 this good, kay, and then we start putting marks on 539 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.839 the board. You know, I just called that to crossover. 540 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.799 And the surprise is not that thing we are that 541 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.799 we're just good? Is that how much accountability the other 542 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.880 folks on the team help their teammates so that we 543 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.079 can actually and that's the buy in and being able 544 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.920 to you know, be able to show that at that level. 545 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.319 Coach A couple of months ago, we got to talk 546 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:32.480 before the Indoor Championships and you you had high praise 547 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.640 for Trevion White. Austin Keyes kind of talked about what 548 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:38.200 he's well, legacy he's going to be leaving with the 549 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.960 program and what you're that connection between you two, Well. 550 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.000 I mean, I think the number one thing is going 551 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:48.519 to be that, you know, talent definitely has always been 552 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.039 within him, but his legacy is really going to be, 553 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.359 you know, again that that buy in to you know 554 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.480 what you know, Coach Green, is doing with him, you know, 555 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.400 and developing the young man, and you know, in his 556 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.559 belief and that's I think when you look at you know, 557 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.319 the level that we compete at the Division one track 558 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.039 and field, it's the I mean, it's the best of 559 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:16.640 the best. And for his legacy is that I worked 560 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.920 my butt off, I did all the things I could write, 561 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.880 you know, and you know, and he you know, ends 562 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.039 up you know, the the Big twelve champion, your school 563 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:28.319 record indoors in. 564 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:31.759 The two hundred, you know, uh, you know, and so that. 565 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.480 Really was, you know, I mean, a great, great legacy. 566 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:36.880 So let me ask you. 567 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:39.759 I don't think I've ever asked you this over the years. 568 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:43.039 Uh that block A has has you know, people know 569 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.720 the block a basketball, right sometimes in football you know 570 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.759 recently on enough. But what does it mean to detract 571 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.599 people when you recruit? 572 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.160 Well in ironically, I mean the block A means a lot. 573 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.119 But the number one you know thing is and you 574 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.880 can't call it a block okay's to cactus logo, right, 575 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.599 But what the you know, what the what the program 576 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.920 means to people, you know throughout the country or throughout 577 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.519 the world, is that they've seen athletes come into this 578 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:17.640 institution and train, get focused and then compete at a 579 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.759 super high level, you know, and so they're much better, 580 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.440 you know, uh leading, and they did when. 581 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.160 He came in. 582 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.079 And you know, uh, you know, real testament that we 583 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.279 have a few people but right now and you know, 584 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.480 he's pretty topical right now, which he should be. Is 585 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.440 you know, is Zach Eckstein, you know, the the high. 586 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.960 Hurdler and he's he's he's a young man. 587 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.079 That was you know, was a good high school Arizona 588 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:49.359 High School hurstler and you know, he kept dropping and 589 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.680 he was competitivest freshman year and now he's he's one 590 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.759 of the top three guys in the you know, one 591 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:56.759 of the top three guys arguably in the country. He 592 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.000 has a number two mark, you know, in the country 593 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.680 at number nine in the world. But what it what 594 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.720 it shows that me, that Arizona blockade, that Arizona beardown, 595 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.839 you know, attitude is that if if you're willing, if 596 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.200 you're willing to do the work, you can see at 597 00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:17.960 a high level. Because we really coach, we hard coach. 598 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.519 Now we we we coach them up hard, but it's 599 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.559 a different hard and our heart is if you say 600 00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.839 this is what you want to be. They maybe we're 601 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.400 going to give you the roadmap here it is, stay 602 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:32.200 on track. 603 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.759 Don't take any detours. You me, if we're going you. 604 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.119 Know, if we're going to southern California, going to l A, 605 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.000 don't deturn, head off you go to New Mexico. You know, 606 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.000 just you've got to we have to stay off, stay focused. 607 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.039 And that's you know, I think that's what the you know, 608 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.920 the block a, you know, bear down. When you talk 609 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.319 to a lot of coaches and athletes throughout the country, 610 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.799 they'll tell you that that's what you know, you know, 611 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.359 they they work and they and they just get better. 612 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.480 So when you were talking about zacht in the number 613 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.400 two in the country, in number nine internationally, those the 614 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.440 international model. Is there a high level of recruitment internationally 615 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:13.559 for you and if there isn't, are those international athletes 616 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.720 competing in world Championships and Olympics and then coming back as. 617 00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.279 Well, Yeah, you know, we definitely, uh you know, are 618 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.400 are recruiting high level you know, you know, you know 619 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.240 throughout the world and you know, again high level. For 620 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.680 a perfect example, you know, you know, a freshman coming 621 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.799 over you know, uh say, you know, you know to 622 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.759 our program, like for example, you know, uh, you know 623 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.720 a Vogan Uh you know did Kovich. I'm gonna screw 624 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:43.440 his name up as I do it every single time, 625 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.720 but he's he's my high another one of my high hurtlers. 626 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.920 Well he you know his you know, he's a high 627 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.079 level first year guy you know from Serbia. 628 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.039 And what what it does. 629 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.880 When you see people like Zach be able to excel 630 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.880 like that, It gives you the credibility that you know, 631 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.279 I can you know, uh, I in the program can 632 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.200 develop these athletes that are at a high level. And 633 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:14.119 so yes that them competing having that many athletes you know, 634 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.000 in the top fifty in the world, you know they 635 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.319 will you know they athletes look at that as we're recruiting, 636 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.240 and one of the recruiting you know, it's not a pitch, 637 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:26.759 it's who we are. 638 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:27.160 You know. 639 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.759 We have to you know, prepare our international athletes as 640 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.480 well as our national athletes, but more so when you're 641 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.599 recruiting internationally, we have to prepare you to be at 642 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:43.200 your highest level, you know, competitiveness for your country. And 643 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:49.359 that's not necessarily the philosophy in a lot of places, 644 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.680 but if you think about it, if if We're getting 645 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.279 them ready to compete at the World Championships for their country, 646 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.759 you know, or the Olympic Games for their country. Every 647 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.519 time and they step on that track, it's a recruiting 648 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.119 tool for the University of Arizona. That's who they're going 649 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.240 to mention, that's where they attend school. 650 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.319 So, fred uh, I got here in eighty seven. I 651 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:14.000 think you got here right after me. I think it 652 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.640 is you must be the longest tenured coach at u A. 653 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:18.599 You've seen a lot of people come and go. 654 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:19.480 Uh. 655 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.279 You know, we've talked to Candrea Lopez, all these coaches 656 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.079 who've come and gone, and some of them and you 657 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.359 probably know they are glad they're not in the business anymore. 658 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.000 Given the situation. How have you been able to deal 659 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.759 with the ni L and all that stuff. 660 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.400 Yeah, and it is difficult, you know, in that capacity 661 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.960 because you know, you know, there's so much out there 662 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.920 and you have to just stay focused on, you know, 663 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.279 on your personal why and and my personal. 664 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:48.400 Why you know, has been. 665 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.599 You know, I'm I'm a teacher, I'm a coach, and 666 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.759 for as long as you know, I have the you know, 667 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.559 the you know, the the respect of the athletes who 668 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.960 are in our program and why they are actually competing, 669 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.720 then it makes it easier on you know, on me. 670 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.720 So track and fill in terms like n oli and 671 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.839 those and products are a little bit different. And and 672 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.319 this is going to be my arrogance speaking here, is 673 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.319 that when you see track and field athletes move from 674 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.079 one institution to another, they're not moving because oh that 675 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.319 school's offering me more money. They may move because hey, 676 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.240 you know what, coach Harvey, I love you, you think 677 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.559 you're great hurracles, but I think that's a better hurdle 678 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.880 coach for me over here, you know, And they'll and 679 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.119 they'll make those moves. It's never about the amount. 680 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.119 Of nil dollars that you know, getting. 681 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.039 Now we have to in our sport be able to 682 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.519 uh do a better job of being able to build 683 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.440 that foundation for in io because that's going to really 684 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:48.799 help our you know, help. 685 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:49.720 Our based product. 686 00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.839 But we're not losing kids because of money. And we're 687 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.119 certainly you know, you know, not acquiring kids from other institutions, 688 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.279 you know, uh, you know, for money. And again with 689 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.799 coach Harvism here when we when we talk about you know, 690 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:10.119 whether it's our our throwing events, you know, these these 691 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.119 athletes that are coming in there, it's such a specific 692 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.400 way of training, and they're going to make those moves, 693 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:19.960 you know, for the ability to be able to get 694 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.680 better because that coach can help them. 695 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.519 And now the biggest question, No, I just want to 696 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.960 I mean, this is just because there's such a vast 697 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.400 array of athletes a you coach, which is significantly different 698 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.319 than any other sport. What's the new what's the nutritional 699 00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.240 resident like routine for your your teams? Do you have 700 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.880 a nutritionist on staff that pretty much maps it out 701 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.839 or do players just instinctively know how to try to 702 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.400 go about it? Because it's such a big part of 703 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.039 sports these days. 704 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.160 So we use our nutritional foundation here, you know, in 705 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.759 the department more for guidance because it's you. It's it 706 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.960 is such a vast variety of athletes from you know, 707 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.920 the distance group to know to our throwers. You know 708 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.599 you're talking about the protein intakes and things for each 709 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.920 of those you know, those different event areas. 710 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.800 It's vastly different, you know. 711 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.280 So what we we have a you know, a pretty 712 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.880 decent system in my mind where we're able to you know, 713 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.760 help write menus. Uh, they're taking them on shopping sprees, 714 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.079 if you will. And the shopping spree is the this 715 00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.239 is how you shop this, you know, and just really 716 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.000 making sure that we have good guidelines, you know, to 717 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.760 be able to do that now in my perfect world. 718 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.880 And if you have a couple of million dollars in 719 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.239 your pocket, you want to give me, you know, and 720 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.360 I would love to be able to have you know, uh, 721 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.320 you know, you know, you know, actual cafeteria which we 722 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.039 can you know, we com feed every athlete, you know, 723 00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.159 three meals a day. That really would be tremendous. And 724 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.880 that's an unbelievable, unbelievable cost. 725 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.079 So well, I just checked my pocket. I've got a 726 00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.280 dirty napkin and kleenex and we'll say, you're it out. 727 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.880 We'll get you. We'll get you some dollars. Don't worry. Now. 728 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.320 The most important question that I want to ask you, 729 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.400 what the hell are you Steelers going to do at quarterback? 730 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.079 Oh, we're gonna get going to figure it out as 731 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:13.320 we do. 732 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.440 Then you've changed that you changed about the Steelers. 733 00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.519 But now I'll tell you what And again this is 734 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.639 just one man's opinion. I love the way that they drafted. 735 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.760 I'm really excited they did not take a quarterback, you 736 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.000 know at number twenty twenty one. 737 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:33.719 I don't know. 738 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.079 I think there you can get the same productivity if 739 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:41.760 you go later rounds. And I believe that it's the thing. 740 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:47.800 Will Howard, you know, I remember at Kansas State, but 741 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.519 he's the Ohio State guy now. But I really think 742 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.280 that within two years that guy said, be are starting quarterback. 743 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:54.639 Okay, you can. 744 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:59.039 I always have hope, coach, can always have hope. 745 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.320 Hope is hope of the positive thing you know about 746 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:01.960 I do? 747 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:02.239 I do? 748 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.079 I never have it. That's my problem, coach. Thanks a bunch, Fred, 749 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:05.880 appreciate you. 750 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.280 Hey, my pleasure hand. 751 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.559 Thank you guys on bear down. 752 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.800 Yeah, to get Fred Harvey with the Ubay track team, 753 00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:13.280 we got to go a little over. 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I'm Steve Rivera, your blake, eager DeLong list, 825 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.159 got ready with us, I'm met with us, packed house 826 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.480 today as we finish up the semester. Can I ask 827 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.239 a dumb question? 828 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.519 Most my questions are pretty dumb anyway, Well, put my 829 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.920 ahead of the buzzer. Really, can I keep those headphones? 830 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.000 I mean, you're gonna wearing him since nineteen ninety six? So, 831 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.400 so the question is track and field coach. So Fred 832 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:26.000 oversees a program, right, so he's got to have specific 833 00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.239 coaches for every single sprinters, long distance, yeah, hurdles. 834 00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.320 What is he like? Is he more of a manager 835 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.079 in that sense then, or is it does he have 836 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.559 a specific area that he's an expert? I think yes 837 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:37.199 to all that. 838 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.760 He's kind of like jetfish, kind of jet fish kind 839 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.360 of manage it, but also coaches them. 840 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.159 And those coaches in those areas have to have at 841 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.519 least I would assume one assistant coach, yeah, or do 842 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.239 you have you have assistant coaches? 843 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:48.280 No? 844 00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:53.440 No, no, I think some do, right, Yeah, you don't. 845 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.960 So it's just a group of coaches that guys are 846 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.920 specific and specific area, but like a football program. 847 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.280 But not as many coaches as you think. 848 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.079 That's what you How many kids are on track and 849 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.519 field A bunch of twenty forty, Yeah, it's gonna be 850 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.480 more than twenty forty on. 851 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.119 When they sixty they had that preview before indoor eighty, 852 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.320 are we just doing twenties? 853 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.599 All my responses were not good enough for today. My 854 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:16.639 earphones aren't either. 855 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:17.360 No. 856 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.320 When they had that press conference before the indoor championships, 857 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.320 I was expecting maybe six athletes and six spoke, but 858 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.880 then you had the rest of the team fill up 859 00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:27.599 the rest of the room. 860 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.519 I mean, do you think they were as big as 861 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.639 a football team? Close to Yeah? 862 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.840 For both for both yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so forty 863 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.000 and forty. 864 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.599 Yeah, that's a world I have no idea. I almost 865 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.039 said that for it, by the way, I almost softly 866 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:48.400 said that that. 867 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.800 Yeah. I literally don't know. I was I've always just 868 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.559 been here's the issue with this program. 869 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.880 Here, it's good, but it's not like elite level, which 870 00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.440 of course it'll you know, it's Arizona, but you have 871 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.519 you can pick your spots with some elite level type 872 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:06.679 of people. They maybe the Olympics, they have gone and 873 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.400 done well. And yeah, yeah, Harvey's Fred's done a heck 874 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.199 of a heck of a job here over all these years. 875 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.400 Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean longevity, sustainability, all those things 876 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.519 he's been able to accomplish there. And yeah, yeah, you're 877 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.559 he's been here almost as long as you've been alive. Yeah, 878 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.280 so twenty eight years, twenty years? Are you still playing 879 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:23.719 in Brooklyn? 880 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:26.360 All right? 881 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.599 What's next? What are we talking about? Uh, Pittsburgh? Are 882 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.280 you guess you're not a Pittsburgh guy? Right, you're not 883 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:32.800 a like in general? 884 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:33.000 Like? 885 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:37.639 Do I like steel momentum? Momentum? Right, trouble? Yeah? Yeah? Double? 886 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:39.920 I mean are we talking about the Steeler? Yeah? I 887 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.800 have no idea. Who's their starting quarterback next year? Possible? 888 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.440 I mean possibly Aaron Rodgers who that happens, He's they're done. 889 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.760 Yeah, yeah, but they did, they drafted that kid, Will 890 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:51.880 Howard out of the house. 891 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.360 Yeah. But eighty four, thank you? And you did the 892 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:56.199 maths on there. 893 00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.400 So did you have to add forty four plus forty 894 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.360 four thirty six there? 895 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.199 And that's more women than men? Probably? 896 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.679 Yeah, that's sexist title titling yeah, of course because of that. 897 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.239 Ye can we get back to the Pittsburgh Steelers, So 898 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.920 you think Howard's not going to step in and start 899 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:15.320 this year? 900 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.519 Right? Maybe? Possibly they have no one else? Why not? Yeah? 901 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.000 And I mean you were able to see what they 902 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:24.199 were able to do on the other side of the 903 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.840 ball last year. So if they can at least have 904 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.280 a running game, which they already have kind of a 905 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:29.000 two headed monster. 906 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.480 Dealers don't like the Cowboys just back in the day teams. 907 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:33.880 They haven't really done much the. 908 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:36.320 Last year. 909 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.480 That's listen, you're today, how old are young? 910 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:48.079 Twenty seventy seventy? Yeah? Was that when last year rock? 911 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:48.519 No? No? 912 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.559 He was like when they were undefeated and they were 913 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:51.039 still bad? 914 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.159 I think, ye, I listen, I'm not gonna you can't 915 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.360 compare them to the Cowboys. Cowboys haven't been super Bowl 916 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:04.840 ready and since ninety four, uh no, ninety five, wasty 917 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.639 six one. The title ninety four ninety five was the Niners. 918 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.400 So you people keep talking when they want to talk 919 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.119 about the Cowboys, but they they haven't accomplished anything. 920 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.079 Little Field. 921 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.079 The Steelers have been relevant for the last I mean 922 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.280 you have Mike Tomlin leading his ship and Mike Tomlins 923 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.960 arguably the best coach in the NFL. I'm not saying 924 00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.920 year by year tenure wise, who's better than him? 925 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:31.159 Right now? 926 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:34.519 Is he the longest tenured coach outside of Andy Reid? No, 927 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.639 I think he gotta be. Just said no, and then 928 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:41.719 then you threw read there. 929 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.719 I was to say he's the longest tenured and then 930 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.599 you threw and you read I think he might be. 931 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:47.840 Yeah, I think he is. 932 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.239 Oh, No, Tomlin's been there longer than yeah, and Andy 933 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.719 Reid's only been with us. 934 00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.760 To the point that they let him go, it'd be like, 935 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.119 holy crap, because he's been Tomlin. 936 00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:01.480 Yeah. 937 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.159 I think that's one of those things that like would 938 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.559 like make the spark though, to like get him over 939 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.719 the hunt, because it's like a lot of people always 940 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.440 talk about it. They like in this kind of limbo 941 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.480 situation where they always do good enough to make the 942 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.119 playoffs but never bad, like never like great to like yeah. 943 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.280 And that's just calling card Tomlin who has been in 944 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.239 the playoffs blah blah blah. 945 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:23.039 But and then has two Super Bowls. Yeah, but but. 946 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.920 Yeah, we're bad enough to like do like get a 947 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.079 star draft orything like that. 948 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.280 And I think the amount of respect that he has 949 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.599 from the players still is pretty impressive. But you're I 950 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:38.599 mean the turning, the coaching turnover. The coaches turnover rate 951 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.239 in the NFL is ridiculous, and it's getting that way 952 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.400 in the NBA. You're singing in soccer. I've talked about 953 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.159 that before. Uh So, to commit to a program is 954 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.599 pretty substantial when Mike Tomlin's done it for so long. 955 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:50.599 But you're right there. 956 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.719 That's a really good way of putting it right, is 957 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.760 that they're they're always good enough to make the player playoffs, 958 00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.599 but never good enough to make get a championship game 959 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.760 or go. And I don't know what you know they 960 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.239 Their identity in the past was you know, your defense 961 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.760 was a steel curtain, right and tough, and you had 962 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.840 enough offensive weaponry to beat good teams. I don't know 963 00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.079 what they're till you didn't right until you didn't right 964 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.880 until Brown And I mean you had a three at 965 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:17.880 the monster for a while. 966 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.320 What's their identity right now? Just defense? In a running game, 967 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:28.760 i'd say, yeah, maybe coach, Hello, you're back on the air. Hello, 968 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.840 Hey Steve, this is done. Hey don just help us. 969 00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.960 Your Hey is Mike Tomlin. That good or the Rooneys 970 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:42.239 don't pull the trigger. I think they've had three coaches. 971 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.159 They've had three coaches in the last what fifty years. 972 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.159 I think that kind of fits into the narrative we 973 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.679 just talked about, Right, how do you pull that trigger 974 00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.639 when he's got a pretty good resume? 975 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.800 How many super Bowl championships they have in the last 976 00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.039 fifty years? He doesn't suck? Right, the Steelers have but 977 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.039 five or six super bowl But. 978 00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.920 How long has it been? It's been how long has 979 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.719 it been since they won? But the last four of 980 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.599 them were in six years in the seventies. But I mean, 981 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.000 Tom what Tomlin does is he does not suck. 982 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.159 Well, that's the headstone. That's the headstone, you know. 983 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.480 Yeah, he he doesn't suck. He wins games, and and 984 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:33.360 lately it's been mediocre. And he was he's he had 985 00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.719 been in he had been in a weak division for 986 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.880 a long time too. And I'm not trying to talk 987 00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.119 against him, but his longevity I think speaks towards the 988 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:47.280 towards the organization as well, not just him. Yeah, because 989 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.239 because I'm a fan of the quick trigger of the 990 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.079 quick Trigger club, and it's just it's downright exhausting. Are 991 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:56.320 you you a Raiders guy? 992 00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.599 Yes? Yeah, okay, I can't remember you getting on Jay 993 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:00.079 a couple. 994 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.199 Yeah, because he taught j Jake talk smack. I'm not 995 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:06.880 used to it. I don't like it. 996 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.159 Well, I shouldn't say that I'm not. 997 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:09.840 Used to it. 998 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.920 I'm I'm I'm I'm surprisingly used to it. And now 999 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.679 we got an old guy, so he's not gonna be 1000 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.079 there long. He might be there long enough to write 1001 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:22.119 the ship a little bit. 1002 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:26.199 Do you think they already had the ut guy who 1003 00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:31.119 the Raiders. We got Pete Carroll, so he's. 1004 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.199 What seventy two or whatever, So yeah, so how long 1005 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.679 is he going to be there for? I mean they 1006 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.639 they may have a plan as well. Pete Carroll might 1007 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.960 have a plan for long term. But I don't think 1008 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.679 if as soon as this thing doesn't work, they're gonna 1009 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.719 they're gonna do him too, and we'll be back on 1010 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.880 the Merry go round. I think that's the that's the 1011 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.960 bad part for the Steeler fans is they can't get 1012 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.360 off of it, and for whatever reason. 1013 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:03.000 They haven't been able. 1014 00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.719 I mean, you got to have a trigger man, you've 1015 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.679 got to have a quarterback, and in the NFL. There's 1016 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:14.159 probably only eight or nine NFL quarterbacks. All the rest 1017 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.159 of them are journeymens. 1018 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.000 So is that the coaches fault or is it the 1019 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:18.960 fault of not having the front office of not having 1020 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.039 a quarterback at that position? Well, it's not being able 1021 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.719 to find a quarterback if you're in the playoffs. You're 1022 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.920 drafting too late and do you want to mortgage the 1023 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.440 rest of your draft to move up for something that 1024 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.559 you don't know is going to be a sure thing 1025 00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.480 because there's no such thing as a short thing. 1026 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.679 How many people passed on the homes, you know? 1027 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.599 And then and then the Browns, you know, drafted a 1028 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:47.199 couch from Couch out of Kentucky and he was absolutely nothing. 1029 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:48.119 Yeah, but the. 1030 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:53.000 Cleveland Browns right now, man, they've got a great quarterback room. 1031 00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.760 No, if you have five quarterbacks, you don't have one 1032 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.920 quarterback right now? 1033 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.000 Yeah, you they have too many, We'll see. 1034 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.679 You know, it's not a pitching staff, it's a quarterback 1035 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.920 room and you only need one. And that's the that's 1036 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.400 that's the hardest part for for for most teams because 1037 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.000 you know, the Steelers they have everything else, they have 1038 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.320 everything else except for an elite quarterback. And they can't 1039 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.920 draft high enough to draft one, and who wants to 1040 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:25.599 pay for one? 1041 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.320 Who's their elite offensive weapon because if they you've got 1042 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.480 to have d k or Jalen Warren. 1043 00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.199 I don't I don't know their rosters, so I don't know. 1044 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.880 But I mean, what is having. 1045 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.320 I mean, I think he's a good I think he's 1046 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.519 a good first punch, like in a in a stable. 1047 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.519 You know what, what, what's what's good about having a 1048 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.960 top three receiver if you don't have a quarterback, they 1049 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.280 can get it to them. 1050 00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:58.280 No, that's a great point. I think that's a question 1051 00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:02.000 the NFL is trying to answer, right, That's what they're. 1052 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:02.280 Trying to do. 1053 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.320 That the NFL has gotten so technical. When I was 1054 00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.039 a kid, you saw how teams lined up and you 1055 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:10.639 knew they were going to run the ball or you 1056 00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:11.960 knew they were going to throw the ball. 1057 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:12.440 This is a. 1058 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.920 Throwing down no matter what. Now you have no idea 1059 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.679 what's coming. It's it's so technical. It's it's all combination 1060 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.800 routes and choice routes and everything else and audibles at 1061 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.360 the line that you know you got to have. You 1062 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.679 got to have an IVY League team on the field. 1063 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:37.480 With NFL type talent to be successful. Yes, that's why the. 1064 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:41.039 Team still still upset that they're not wearing leather helmets. 1065 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.400 Yeah, I wanted one sign. Hey, we got to go down. 1066 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.000 Thanks man, than thanks guys. 1067 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:48.599 Thanks. You've now coming. 1068 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:51.639 Into the covering the Pittsburgh Steelers beat here, so we're 1069 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.199 gonna take a break and come back to your breaking 1070 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:54.159 news whatever's left. 1071 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.719 Yeah, I'm going to ruin that before you get there. 1072 00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:59.199 The Steelers