Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey guys, it's been a hot minute. It's
Speaker 1: been a long time. It's been at least fifty one minutes.
Speaker 2: I think it's been like two months.
Speaker 1: It has. It's pretty pathetic, it is, I mean, but hey,
Speaker 1: we've been doing things.
Speaker 2: Life's been busy. We've been busy, and we don't do
Speaker 2: this for money because we don't get any from it.
Speaker 2: So we got to do what we got to do
Speaker 2: to make the money that we got to make so
Speaker 2: that we can do this when we can do this
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're here finally, Yes, after a long pause, sabbatical, sabbatical,
Speaker 1: sabbatical with a B no a V.
Speaker 2: Nope, that's weird. We see the same thing. Yeah, not
Speaker 2: like VD. We're here BD.
Speaker 1: So the bababbical and we're back coming at you Live
Speaker 1: with episode number fifty.
Speaker 2: From the Stranges.
Speaker 3: That was cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cool, but I like
Speaker 1: to definitely blew up somebody's earplugs and made somebody's dog bark.
Speaker 2: I hope, so hope, so so bad. But anyway, Hey,
Speaker 2: it's good to be back in the studio. We have
Speaker 2: been doing things. We've gone places, we've done things, we've.
Speaker 1: Seen things, so many things, we just haven't told people
Speaker 1: about it. Now we're keeping it on that inside.
Speaker 2: So we're going to try to maybe enlighten people of
Speaker 2: some of the things that have been going on for sure.
Speaker 2: But okay, let's get down to the breast tacks and
Speaker 2: let's talk about what's been going on.
Speaker 1: All right, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go back in time. I want
Speaker 2: to say the last couple of years have been really
Speaker 2: hard for a lot of people, including most of our listeners.
Speaker 2: I'm sure. Oh yeah, there was this thing.
Speaker 1: Called Corona which mysteriously just disappeared, right, whoa, whoa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we mentioned this like every episode.
Speaker 2: I know, I know our lives are we don't all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Corona is no longer a big deal anymore.
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. I mean, do you hear that in the news.
Speaker 2: So that's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went from Corona Extra to Corona Life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you think about the Corona years and
Speaker 2: the year before. Okay, let's just lay out a couple
Speaker 2: of things, and I'm sure a lot of other of
Speaker 2: our listeners could do the same thing as we do ours.
Speaker 1: Everybody get your layout.
Speaker 2: We've lost three out of our four grandparents and parents
Speaker 2: they died. Yeah, it's rough in the last three years,
Speaker 2: three and a half years, so that's been going on.
Speaker 2: I had four stints put in my heart and my ticker.
Speaker 2: They say I had a heart attack, although I didn't
Speaker 2: know that I had an heart attack. So that that's
Speaker 2: been a thing.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, you're being a baby for complaining
Speaker 1: that just hurting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there was that kind of thing going on.
Speaker 2: There was all kinds of weird stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and coming up on three years now is my
Speaker 1: son's third birthday. Yeah, even that was thrown in there.
Speaker 1: And my wife's pregnancy, like we've mentioned before, was not
Speaker 1: super blame. So we had all kinds of stuff going on,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about.
Speaker 2: We're coming out of it, we're digging out. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna say this is the this setting the baseline, right
Speaker 2: which was really low. Said good drink. My martini is
Speaker 2: tasting very sweet.
Speaker 1: Right now, mine's clinky?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: But you can tell it's just vodka and fresco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're drinking in a plastic glass, which gives us
Speaker 2: the opportunity to say, just because we're drinking doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that we are saying everybody should drink. So if you
Speaker 2: are not a drinker, welcome. If you are a drinker, welcome.
Speaker 2: But no matter whether you are or you aren't drink responsibly.
Speaker 1: Whatever you drink, no matter what you drink, I don't
Speaker 1: like you the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you know? This is true, hermit. Okay, So
Speaker 2: I'm digging this out. So this is the baseline. Things
Speaker 2: have been really rough. But you know, we started this
Speaker 2: podcast and right at the beginning of all that roughness.
Speaker 2: So there's a strange thing about that. Yeah, go through
Speaker 2: all of the trials and tribulations that we've had, you know,
Speaker 2: from the deaths that we talked about even before deaths
Speaker 2: with Dad, finding Alzheimer's dementia, and we did a lot
Speaker 2: of stories about some of these things as we went
Speaker 2: through all of this stuff, and it got me thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, life is very strange, and everybody deals with
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. So it's good, but a lot
Speaker 2: of it's bad. And there are these things in life
Speaker 2: that make life worth living. And one of those things
Speaker 2: is being able to do things with family and friends
Speaker 2: that you enjoy. And one of those things for me
Speaker 2: is being here in the studio with you. You know,
Speaker 2: get to go out on our adventures and live life
Speaker 2: and see things and experience stuff things that we don't
Speaker 2: get to do. And I hope other people get to
Speaker 2: do that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a good time. Yeah, and I really
Speaker 1: appreciate those things too. I was talking to my wife
Speaker 1: today or recently, sometime in the recent and I was
Speaker 1: just saying, like, one of my things I look forward
Speaker 1: to is recording and going and doing stuff with Dad,
Speaker 1: and we haven't been doing that lately.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been kind of depressing.
Speaker 1: Sentimental moment over, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Every time I come home and I drive into the
Speaker 2: driveway and I see the mothership unfinished, it's like calling
Speaker 2: to me. It's like out there sitting lonely and dejected
Speaker 2: in the driveway. I have to put a battery tender
Speaker 2: on it every once in a while so the battery
Speaker 2: doesn't go dead. Yeah, you know, it makes me sad
Speaker 2: in my heart. Oh yeah, but there are other things
Speaker 2: that make me feel happy, Like I bought a side
Speaker 2: by side that makes me happy. Yeah. So we've had
Speaker 2: a few adventures with those.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have. And so that's some crazy bugs great,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, Yeah, black beetles with redheads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not even a band name.
Speaker 1: Black Beetles and red heads, Black Beetles and red head. Okay,
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: If you are new to our podcast, we are called
Speaker 2: a strange thing for a reason because we like to
Speaker 2: talk and think and investigate strange things in all of
Speaker 2: the different varieties.
Speaker 3: True crime, cryptis, cryptids, cryptos, yeah, murder, weird thoughts, people
Speaker 3: who do strange things.
Speaker 2: I mean, we just go on. I mean, it's endless,
Speaker 2: it's bottomless. It's like a pit.
Speaker 1: Ye, pits are notoriously not bottomless.
Speaker 2: Well, bottomless, pit is bottomless. I like pits, pits, arm pits,
Speaker 2: top like top your pick, though, let's.
Speaker 4: Move on.
Speaker 2: This trend. I'm pick where girls don't shave their armpits anymore.
Speaker 2: Do you like that? Do you find that attractive?
Speaker 1: You know what? It makes me think of?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Jungle love driving me mad?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I wasn't really thinking about that, but that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Hey, if you don't shave your armpits, that's your decision.
Speaker 1: It is, and it's totally fine with me. I don't care.
Speaker 2: It might make me look twice just because it's rare,
Speaker 2: but not because I think it's disgusting. I just think it's.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's intriguing. Wow, that's strange to me. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a strange thing, which brings us back.
Speaker 2: To who we are.
Speaker 1: A strange thing podcast like a promo video. We just
Speaker 1: did a ranting.
Speaker 2: We went a strange way around.
Speaker 1: Imitation, obscure, music difference, maybe not so obscure. Talk about
Speaker 1: a strange thing being bare seeing. That's about it. That's
Speaker 1: our that's our thing. And don't forget our Yeah, never
Speaker 1: forget the armpair.
Speaker 2: Yep, I've got plenty. Okay, all right, So anyway, episode
Speaker 2: fifty one, and we're back in the studio and it's
Speaker 2: good to be here, and we are going to fill
Speaker 2: our listeners because we know they are awaited with baited breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all four of them passed down right now.
Speaker 2: I think maybe we have three now because it's been
Speaker 2: so long since we.
Speaker 1: Probably lost Like I'm tired of holding my breath.
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought maybe they were old and just died.
Speaker 2: It could be, you know. Yeah, So we're going to
Speaker 2: just bring you up to date. So since our last episode,
Speaker 2: which I.
Speaker 1: Don't even remember what it was, it was so long ago,
Speaker 1: we can talk about water babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were going to talk about water babies, but
Speaker 2: we never got a chance because we kept teasing people
Speaker 2: to say, we're.
Speaker 1: Going to go out and we're going to do an
Speaker 1: investigation on water babies. But people had to ruin our
Speaker 1: lives with responsibilities.
Speaker 2: But we did go out on an investigation, so we
Speaker 2: are going to talk about that. But pre water babies,
Speaker 2: we did something else. We went to this place in
Speaker 2: Idaho called Stanley.
Speaker 1: And it's very ugly. I mean it's like a swamp
Speaker 1: mixed with a desert mixed with like a dairy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so disgusting. I've got video from the
Speaker 2: drone that I purchased. I've got video and we'll put
Speaker 2: that up on our website so you can see how
Speaker 2: ugly it is because I mean there are no mountains,
Speaker 2: there's no water, it's no greenery. It's just icky.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I remember we were we were kind of
Speaker 1: like driving up this mountain. Yeah, but I mean it
Speaker 1: wasn't a mountain. It was just like a flat plain
Speaker 1: with garbage on the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I came up to the top and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I really expect to see like a cool river coming
Speaker 1: down into like a little tiny village and like trees
Speaker 1: and foraging and nice beautiful sunset and mountains and like
Speaker 1: a cool skyline and miles and miles of beautiful frontier terrain,
Speaker 1: and all it was is garbage.
Speaker 2: Don't move No, don't forget. There was the boiling pot
Speaker 2: of pus that was there. I mean too much. I
Speaker 2: mean it's gross, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: No, we don't want people to move here. But that's
Speaker 1: way too much.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's get honest here.
Speaker 1: Stanley is beautiful, fantastic, and they have a beautiful emergency
Speaker 1: care clinic they do, which you experienced, but we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. But we went there for the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: That's how long it's been people. We went to the
Speaker 1: Fourth of July Extravaganza in Stanley, Ido. They have a
Speaker 1: fireworks display that used to be really good, but actually
Speaker 1: this year sucked. Yeah, sucked it did.
Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty because well occasionally it was pretty.
Speaker 1: Went off even in July. There was snow on like
Speaker 1: on the north side. Yeah, and when the fireworks went off,
Speaker 1: it almost I don't know if it necessarily reflected, but
Speaker 1: you did notice the snow.
Speaker 2: So there was like this cool. Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 2: Those periodic moments of beauty were cool.
Speaker 1: There were but the problem was there was only eight
Speaker 1: moments of beauty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were spaced out between like four minutes
Speaker 2: of nothingness.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: It was weird. It was like there was no choreography.
Speaker 2: There weren't that many. And then like the extravaganza, I
Speaker 2: didn't even know when it was over. Usually they'll set
Speaker 2: up a big bunch of the grand finale, yeah, and
Speaker 2: then it ends with the big ones. Didn't happen. It
Speaker 2: did not happen. It was it was like but anyway, okay,
Speaker 2: but there were pretty things. We'll put the video and
Speaker 2: some pictures of that experience up there. But Stanley is
Speaker 2: this beautiful place in the mountains. The Redfish Lake is nearby,
Speaker 2: which is beautiful, and people go there and there's like,
Speaker 2: you know, boats and bikinis and it's a.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful it is beautiful, beautiful boat kinis Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so we went there to celebrate the fourth of July.
Speaker 2: But while we were there, since we are not the
Speaker 2: type to waste an opportunity, we looked for something that
Speaker 2: was strange that happened around.
Speaker 1: We took out our sniffers and sniffed. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: because you're up in the mountains and the timber and
Speaker 1: the pine, I thought, well, you know, maybe there's some sasquatchiness.
Speaker 1: Which turns out there was one reporting of a sasquatch,
Speaker 1: but nobody saw it, not directly, and that had been
Speaker 1: like a murder. So, I know, like sasquatches are typically
Speaker 1: you know, known to like shriek. Yeah, yeah, but like
Speaker 1: a lot of times, like let's say you were a dude,
Speaker 1: you get shot and you're in like a little town,
Speaker 1: you just get shot or like you get killed. A
Speaker 1: typical reaction to a dude getting shot or killed would
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, so maybe like the guy who was
Speaker 1: a sasquatch quote unquote was just a dude getting murdered.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but this precedes the murder we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about in Stanley.
Speaker 1: Oh so there is a murder.
Speaker 2: Yes, there is a murder in Stanley, but this is
Speaker 2: more about a there's a website that records all bigfoot
Speaker 2: encounters and it's up to date, so you can go
Speaker 2: and you can search an area or time or place
Speaker 2: and find out if there's been any bigfoot activity there.
Speaker 2: So there was a person that felt like they were
Speaker 2: chased or followed by a bigfoot type creature and it
Speaker 2: stayed up on a bank. It was making all kinds
Speaker 2: of weird noise, kind of howling, growling and stuff, but
Speaker 2: standing upright, and it would would run through the trees
Speaker 2: and would throw rocks and do weird things. And I
Speaker 2: think there were three eyewitnesses that saw this. But that's
Speaker 2: it in Stanley as far as bigfoot tasquatch, that's it.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, so three people didn't say something got scared
Speaker 1: in the wood in the dark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically and told stories that collaborated each other.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. It sounds like three dudes went camping drinking.
Speaker 1: Was like, really if when we got back we saw
Speaker 1: a mag foot.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's what happened, because the people
Speaker 2: actually that reported one of them worked there and was
Speaker 2: a lady and was not a drinking drunk. She wasn't
Speaker 2: a drinker. Christ leep that out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well people can't figure out phones.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, we're no prejudice here.
Speaker 2: But anyway, what were we talking about before you.
Speaker 1: Derailed me with bigfoot in Stanley?
Speaker 2: You're chastising my upbringing you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't die.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been with you literally my whole life. I know
Speaker 1: the problems.
Speaker 2: Crap, Holy I hate it when I spilled my martini
Speaker 2: because of I didn't say something, but I didn't because
Speaker 2: we were recorded.
Speaker 5: Okay, no, it's it.
Speaker 2: Lost ninety percent of my martini. I've got a napkin.
Speaker 1: Ah already. Then now that we got that mask cleaned up,
Speaker 1: back to you, Mike, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So we were talking about how we went to Stanley
Speaker 2: and we were trying to find something cool there because
Speaker 2: we wanted to utilize the location for an investigation if
Speaker 2: there was something to investigate. Well, the only thing I
Speaker 2: could find was this obscure Sasquatch siding and it really
Speaker 2: didn't amount to much, although there is one there that's recorded.
Speaker 2: But what I did find was something else that was
Speaker 2: very interesting and somewhat sad, and it was a murder
Speaker 2: that took place in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty, you say, yes, I did. As every other
Speaker 1: podcast goes, I'm going to look up what the top
Speaker 1: songs and movies were for that time period.
Speaker 2: I looked up.
Speaker 1: Top probably Michael Jackson, Top nineteen eighties country because it's Stanley, Idaho.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, they weren't listening to Michael Jackson. There was
Speaker 1: there's none of that going on in Stanley. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it was all like country music. You were always on
Speaker 1: my mom. Yeah he was awesome, and uh, there was
Speaker 1: probably this is kind of relatable to this story.
Speaker 2: Maybe there was.
Speaker 1: Probably not a coward in the county.
Speaker 2: Oh, Kenny Rogers counter of the county yet.
Speaker 1: Which is funny because I don't know if any of
Speaker 1: the listeners have ever heard of a company called eleven
Speaker 1: fifty nine Media, but they have a couple of cool
Speaker 1: episodes called that When One Calls Podcasts with the Operator
Speaker 1: and Ken Chungus and also True Crame Can't, which also
Speaker 1: stars the Operator, but it's a Southern podcast.
Speaker 2: Operator gets around.
Speaker 1: And yeah he does get that around Russians, but always Russian,
Speaker 1: any thing Russian. I don't know if he's Russian. He
Speaker 1: sounds Russian, you know, he talks like these kent Southern.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna make him anyone you can't is definitely Southern.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the operator operator. I don't know what
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: If he was Russian, his Monday's.
Speaker 4: Names.
Speaker 1: I like to talk about the one Cool.
Speaker 2: Listen whatever it is. Whatever they are fun podcast. You
Speaker 2: guys should check them out. Eleven fifty nine.
Speaker 1: Media Yep, yep, mucho bo Okay, Okay, back to what
Speaker 1: we were talking about Kennywardo County.
Speaker 2: Well, we weren't really talking about him, but you derailed
Speaker 2: us and talked about music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, top hundred.
Speaker 2: Country music hits in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen eighty e Feller dot.
Speaker 2: That Kenny Rogers. Oh no, oh no, you mean the
Speaker 2: murder Okay, okay, yeah, okay. I got to get my
Speaker 2: cheat sheet.
Speaker 4: I had it.
Speaker 2: Where to go? It's a piece of paper?
Speaker 1: Would you still do?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 4: I got it?
Speaker 2: Okay, So this was a while ago, so I had
Speaker 2: to I had to do a cheat sheet because I
Speaker 2: couldn't remember everything that we'd studied, because we investigate hard. Yes,
Speaker 2: So what I found out in nineteen eighty which I
Speaker 2: think it was in September, Yeah, except Umber twenty second.
Speaker 2: According to my chichi, there was a murderer. And this
Speaker 2: wasn't actually in Stanley. This took place about thirty miles
Speaker 2: to the east of Stanley, Okay, in a small town
Speaker 2: called Clayton. But it's I mean in that area in
Speaker 2: the mountains. It might as well be Stanley because that's Closetocons. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I like Philocons.
Speaker 1: I do like I can come in.
Speaker 2: Tonight of night.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's tonight.
Speaker 2: It's of night. It's tonight, Hey, goog what are the
Speaker 2: lyrics to phil Collins? I can feel it coming in
Speaker 2: the air of night.
Speaker 1: That's not a song, you idiot, don't dun't bats I
Speaker 1: can feel it coming in yet tonight.
Speaker 2: It is tonight.
Speaker 6: Oh lord?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, goes. But I always thought it was
Speaker 2: in the air of night.
Speaker 1: Two funny things about Phocons. Yeah, I'd hang out with him,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't go swimming with him. Why because he
Speaker 1: saw me I was drowning, bud.
Speaker 2: He would not.
Speaker 7: Land hand.
Speaker 1: Number two.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: He wrote the music for Tarzan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you be in my heart?
Speaker 1: Right, I think so. Tarzan in that movie says Clayton,
Speaker 1: and that is the name of the town that we
Speaker 1: are talking about.
Speaker 2: Weird, this is connected.
Speaker 1: Ain't proud of you, old son?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, you connected it. I don't think our
Speaker 2: listeners to what the heck we're talking about the will
Speaker 2: But anyway, look it up. So yes, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: rewind back to what we were talking about, which was
Speaker 2: a small town in Clayton. There was a murder on
Speaker 2: September twentieth September on September was it?
Speaker 4: Where's my TG?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he isn't TG.
Speaker 8: Where to go there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, there's twenty twenty one, twenty one, thirty two.
Speaker 2: Sold Okay, right, okay, there was a murder on September
Speaker 2: twenty second in nineteen eighty And you know, okay, murders
Speaker 2: happen all the time, so it's not like a big deal.
Speaker 2: But I mean they lost their dad's son or brother,
Speaker 2: mother whatever, child, mother, brother, I know, the mother mother murders.
Speaker 2: Murders happened all the times, I'm saying. And so you know,
Speaker 2: we we listened to the news, we read it in
Speaker 2: the paper. We hear about it all the time. Murder, murder, murder, Right,
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that that's a good thing. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that it's common.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is common for people to die out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then investigators go out, they investigate the murder,
Speaker 2: they catch the bad guy, they put him away, and
Speaker 2: then they get out after a year and they start
Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar company. Maybe I don't know. We're not
Speaker 2: going to talk about our justice system. That is another
Speaker 2: strange thing that we could talk about at another time.
Speaker 2: But there was a murder in Clayton, which is thirty
Speaker 2: thirty five miles east of Stanley, Idaho, where we were
Speaker 2: on the fourth of July. And what makes this unique
Speaker 2: is there was this guy named Dan Woolly. I want
Speaker 2: to be respectful for Dan and his family because this
Speaker 2: is a heart wrenching thing and it's a strange thing
Speaker 2: as well, and we'll get into that. So Dan Woolly
Speaker 2: was a rancher outside of Clayton, Idaho. He had a
Speaker 2: son named Brett, and one day Brett was out on
Speaker 2: his motorcycle and he crashed and he was hurt and
Speaker 2: he was laid up for a bit. And so Dan
Speaker 2: the dad and went and asked Brett, Hey, Brett, you
Speaker 2: want to come into town and have a beer with
Speaker 2: your old man. I mean, it sounds like something that
Speaker 2: I would say to you, right, And so Brett, being
Speaker 2: laid up because of his motorcycle crash, says, you know, Dad,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it. And so Dan Woolly the
Speaker 2: dad went to town alone and he went to a place
Speaker 2: in Clayton called the Sports Bar. He knew people there,
Speaker 2: the people of the town of Clayton, which had, you know,
Speaker 2: probably a few hundred people because it was a mining town.
Speaker 2: Everybody knew Dan said he was a nice guy, great guy,
Speaker 2: and he was a friend to everybody. Well, Dan went
Speaker 2: to the bar and something happened in the bar and
Speaker 2: a fart A fight started.
Speaker 6: Jeez, jeez, So a fight started in the bar, and
Speaker 6: I had that's totally an excellent.
Speaker 2: But anyway, okay, gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: So a fight started in the bar.
Speaker 2: And uh. And there are different rumors as to what happened.
Speaker 2: Some say that there were a couple miners that were
Speaker 2: working in town. They were Montana boys, so they they'd
Speaker 2: come over from Montana, were working in the mines in Clayton. Uh,
Speaker 2: probably a silver mine and uh as somebody had said
Speaker 2: something that insulted a wife or a girlfriend or something,
Speaker 2: and the Swan dude decided he wasn't gonna take it
Speaker 2: anymore and started a ruckus. And this guy's name was
Speaker 2: Walter Mason was a bad mason and like a free mason.
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna say that, but good call. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: this Mason, Walter Mason. His history was he was an
Speaker 2: ex rodeo cowboy and he had kind of rolled into
Speaker 2: town and he was known to be kind of rough
Speaker 2: and would like to scrap and fight.
Speaker 1: And anyway, he was Johnny Ringo kind of yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was muscle Sony.
Speaker 4: Way.
Speaker 2: These two Montana boys got a fight with them and
Speaker 2: they spilled out into the parking lot and Dan Dan Wooley,
Speaker 2: the dad, being a good guy, saw that Walter Mason
Speaker 2: was in trouble and reportedly went out to kind of
Speaker 2: help to stop the fight. And the bartender went out too,
Speaker 2: So they went out in the parking lot. This ruckus
Speaker 2: is going on. The two Montana boys are beating up
Speaker 2: on Walter Mason, and Dan Wooley comes out with the
Speaker 2: bartender and they try to break things up.
Speaker 7: I have boys, now, I'm taking it easy. Yeah, he's
Speaker 7: just an all that old boy, not like Montana folk.
Speaker 7: So this sorry, bake you pot so the don't you
Speaker 7: take I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to interrupt. Just talking all the talking,
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 2: I know I'm talking a lot, but because I got
Speaker 2: this story and you're just like here for sat tire,
Speaker 2: It's true almost a color color. So the fights spilled
Speaker 2: out into the parking lot and this guy, Walter Mason,
Speaker 2: somehow breaks free. I don't know if the things had
Speaker 2: simmer down a bit or maybe Dan Woolly and the
Speaker 2: bartender were holding the Montana boys back. Whatever, but Walter
Speaker 2: Mason runs off towards his truck and he gets a handgun.
Speaker 2: He gets a pistol, and he comes back and he
Speaker 2: starts firing, and he fires at least two shots. One
Speaker 2: of the shots hits one of the Montana boys in
Speaker 2: the arm. The other shot hits Dan Wooly in the face.
Speaker 2: He kills Yeah, the dad kills him instantly. Bad bad juju,
Speaker 2: I mean a bad thing, right. So anyway, Dan Woolly
Speaker 2: was murdered, Walter Mason executed. He walks into the bar
Speaker 2: across the street from the sports bar, because there were
Speaker 2: two bars in town, and he goes up to the
Speaker 2: bartender and he says, I just killed a man and
Speaker 2: just killed Then he leaves and that it's the last
Speaker 2: he was seen.
Speaker 1: I'll he fill in a creak and twisted his ankle in.
Speaker 2: So yeah, poor Brett and the son is at home
Speaker 2: with his bomb, healing up from a motorcycle crash and
Speaker 2: a pound on the door comes and it's a couple
Speaker 2: of police officers and they say, hey, your husband was
Speaker 2: just killed. Yikes at the sports bar.
Speaker 1: The son who was going to go with him.
Speaker 2: And Brett upstairs. Here's his mommy wail crying and runs
Speaker 2: down the stairs the best he can. And that's the
Speaker 2: memory of finding out about how his dad was murdered
Speaker 2: and quite full. Yeah, terrible story, but it keeps going.
Speaker 2: The story keeps going.
Speaker 1: Well, I got it. I think I have a story
Speaker 1: related to this, to be honest, but continue.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the law enforcement come, they investigate. They're looking
Speaker 2: for this Walter Mason everywhere, can't find him anywhere. During
Speaker 2: the investigation, they find out a few interesting things. One
Speaker 2: of the things is that Walter Mason was affiliated with
Speaker 2: a famous mobster named Benny Benyon. Benny Benyon, Benny Benyon,
Speaker 2: which out of Las Vegas there was Benyon's Horseshoe Club.
Speaker 2: He was known to be a mobster, reported to have
Speaker 2: killed a few people.
Speaker 4: On his own.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're finding those people now hitt Lake Mead as
Speaker 2: it dries up and they're fighting bodies down there. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but Anyway, Benny Benyon supposedly or through hearsay,
Speaker 2: knew this Walter Mason because Walter Mason was a rodeo guy,
Speaker 2: a pro rodeo guy. It was well known that Benny
Speaker 2: Benyon liked the rodeo cowboys and a lot of them
Speaker 2: because they were really strong, wiry, fighty scrappy dudes, and
Speaker 2: they were very very useful for him.
Speaker 1: In his henchmanness, in his well yeah you know.
Speaker 2: And what he was reported to do is that he
Speaker 2: would pay for these cowboys want to be cowboys, their
Speaker 2: entrance fees into rodeos, and then in return he would
Speaker 2: expect favors. And some of that was that they were
Speaker 2: Benny Benyon's hired muscle. So, as the story goes, a
Speaker 2: lot of people believed that Benny Benyon and his ilk
Speaker 2: spirited Walter Mason away as a hit man, that they
Speaker 2: took him out of the picture, that they took him
Speaker 2: away and hit him somewhere. The other story is that
Speaker 2: maybe the rodeo friends that he had in the pro
Speaker 2: rodeo circuit helped him escape. But anyway, he disappeared and
Speaker 2: there was a man hunt and nobody could find Walter Mason.
Speaker 1: W Mason.
Speaker 2: That sucks. He just was gone, and during the interim
Speaker 2: of his absence, a lot of people suspected that maybe
Speaker 2: Brett and his brothers had maybe found Walter Mason and
Speaker 2: took him out and killed him in retribution for the
Speaker 2: murder of their dad. One of the articles I read
Speaker 2: said that Brett was always like he felt like he
Speaker 2: was a marked person because people would always suspect that
Speaker 2: maybe he had murdered this Walter Mason guy who killed
Speaker 2: his dad. Okay, but so he kind of put it
Speaker 2: away right in his head, and years went by, years
Speaker 2: went by, four decades go by, forty years go by,
Speaker 2: no sign of Walter Mason, and then just by happenstance.
Speaker 2: In a small town out of Texas called Rising Star.
Speaker 2: Rising Star, a woman is surfing through Facebook and stumbles
Speaker 2: across a news report about the murder that took place
Speaker 2: in Clayton, Idaho, and she recognizes a picture, and so
Speaker 2: she starts doing a little sleuthing and she contacts the
Speaker 2: family of Dan Wooley and says, hey, I think my
Speaker 2: mom's common law husband might be Walter Mason. And so
Speaker 2: they start comparing pictures from old photographs and they discover
Speaker 2: that this truly is Walter Mason, although now Walter Mason
Speaker 2: is going by Walter Allison, and he'd been living with
Speaker 2: the mom of this lady who had found him on
Speaker 2: Facebook for over twenty years.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then when the mom died, this daughter stumbles across
Speaker 2: this information and contacts the Wooly family. They contact the police,
Speaker 2: and then one day the police show up on Walter
Speaker 2: Mason slash Allison's doorstep, and when confronted, Walter Mason confesses
Speaker 2: to the murder of Dan Woolly nearly forty years earlier.
Speaker 1: WHOA, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So he disappears for forty.
Speaker 1: Years, eighties, forty years.
Speaker 2: They locate him on October tenth, twenty nineteen. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: when they find him.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is crazy. So a long time later, the
Speaker 2: article goes on to talk about Brett, the son, who says,
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't expecting he'd kind of put it aside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it never would leave, but he'd kind of
Speaker 2: put decide And then all of a sudden this comes back.
Speaker 2: Well anyway, law enforcement extradites this guy from Texas to Idaho,
Speaker 2: and he's now eighty seven years old. He's an old dude,
Speaker 2: and he's not in good health, and his common law
Speaker 2: wife had recently died like six months earlier.
Speaker 1: Oh me, and good hurt us.
Speaker 2: He's eighty seven years old, right, So they bring him
Speaker 2: back to Idaho to put him on trial for the
Speaker 2: murder of Dan Woolly. And it looks like, you know,
Speaker 2: Brett and his family are finally going to have closure
Speaker 2: to this murder. Mister, Well that's good, yeah, but he's
Speaker 2: not doing well. This Walter Mason, this Walter Allison. He's old,
Speaker 2: he's feeble, he's got dementia. He ends up going to
Speaker 2: a long term care facility, maybe a diarrhea in hobes
Speaker 2: that they can finally put him on trial for the murder.
Speaker 2: But guess what what, he dies in the care facility
Speaker 2: on June first, twenty twenty one. He's never prosecuted for
Speaker 2: the murder of Dan Woolly. He's confessed to it, but
Speaker 2: he dies, and because of his mental health and his
Speaker 2: physical health, he's never put on trial.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully there was at least some not closure, but
Speaker 1: like answers to some of their stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm sure there was closure, but it's
Speaker 2: still a weird thing. And there's a lot of rumors
Speaker 2: surrounding this because of the connection to Benny Benyon, who
Speaker 2: was a mobster, and so there's all the speculation that
Speaker 2: Benny Benyon was involved in helping this murderer get out
Speaker 2: of Clayton, Idaho and to Texas, to Rising Star. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a cool name for a town, rising Star, Texas.
Speaker 2: And he lives there for forty years. And some of
Speaker 2: the neighbors had lived by him for twenty five years
Speaker 2: and said he was very low key, kind of reclusive,
Speaker 2: never really spoke.
Speaker 1: Much, never really did the murderer, I don't know. So
Speaker 1: here's the deal with that story. I can see his
Speaker 1: perspective because he's kind of getting beat up a little bit, right,
Speaker 1: So he went over and got his gun. He's been drinking.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Two things you don't you don't want to make guns
Speaker 1: and alcohol. But he's been drinking. He goes get some
Speaker 1: guns and he's going to show these guys who just
Speaker 1: humiliated and hurt him, what's up.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's going to threaten them to be worse. They're
Speaker 1: from Montana, Yeah, from old Montan. I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: can understand how he's like I can understand his headspace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if he just got beat up, could have
Speaker 2: been an accident.
Speaker 1: And he went out and he went and got his
Speaker 1: gun because he's going to show these boys don't f
Speaker 1: with me. I live here, get out of my you know,
Speaker 1: an old timey mining town that seems pretty typical. But
Speaker 1: then he comes back and there's four people yep, instead
Speaker 1: of two because he got beat up by two people.
Speaker 2: Right, well, yeah, but he got beat up by two people.
Speaker 2: But the story goes that Walter was getting beat up
Speaker 2: and then Dan Wooley came out with bartender to pull
Speaker 2: them on Tana boys off. Okay, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's all kinds of stories that it was accidental,
Speaker 2: you know, that he accidentally shot in the face, you
Speaker 2: know what to do. He ran away, which kind of
Speaker 2: sounds like it could be true. There are stories that
Speaker 2: they had come in and insulted a woman that was
Speaker 2: either the bartender's wife or a girlfriend of somebody. I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but anyway, there are all kinds
Speaker 2: of Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been to like big bars, like I've been to
Speaker 1: like little sports bars, but I've been to a couple
Speaker 1: of big bars. And I'd say like one out of
Speaker 1: five of those bars there's been a fight. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so out of five times there's a fight. If he
Speaker 1: goes down there every weekend for even a night, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of times he's going to be involved in
Speaker 1: something in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a pretty bad situation, and especially at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of story about Walter Mason and
Speaker 2: how he was raised, that he was orphaned at a
Speaker 2: young age, that he had a really rough life, and
Speaker 2: that he kind of got into scraps and fights and
Speaker 2: he got into a rodeo, and that while he was
Speaker 2: in rodeo, this mini Benyon, this mobster from well, I
Speaker 2: don't know where he was from, but he ended up
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Walter Mason would be hired muscle for him.
Speaker 2: So there was that backstory. There's also a very well
Speaker 2: known story about Walter Mason that while he was in
Speaker 2: the rodeo circuit, got stomped on by a bronco and
Speaker 2: it severely messed up his face. So he had a
Speaker 2: very deformed face, so he was easily recognizable. That makes
Speaker 2: you wonder why nobody nobody noticed it. Yeah, it's really weird.
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic star and it's really really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, we're not doing it justice here. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of good information out there. People put some links
Speaker 2: on a website if people want to go and read
Speaker 2: more about it. But yeah, he was finally caught. He
Speaker 2: died before he could be prosecuted. But you know, I
Speaker 2: believe that there's a divine answer to all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and I don't think people will get away from their
Speaker 2: you know, their injustices. So anyway, we'll leave her there.
Speaker 1: This whole thing reminds me of something you even talked about,
Speaker 1: like divine intervention and spirits you talked about. The kid
Speaker 1: had been in a motorcycle accident, got all burned up,
Speaker 1: probably somewhere else.
Speaker 2: If he would have been there, maybe he would.
Speaker 4: Have been killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have been bad. But then just the
Speaker 1: idea of like doing something you know, reckless and getting
Speaker 1: hurt really bad and Stanley iao makes me think of
Speaker 1: an incident that happened in Stanley, Idaho.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was not as tragic as the story we
Speaker 2: just talked about.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I think they're related. Actually, yeah they are,
Speaker 1: because we were outside a bar near Stanley. If it
Speaker 1: was dark, and there were definitely spirits.
Speaker 5: Involved casino club.
Speaker 1: The casino club, And I'm going to defend myself a
Speaker 1: little bit here. The gravel roads in Stanley are very
Speaker 1: mush mushy.
Speaker 2: What do they call it? Road chip? Rock chip?
Speaker 1: Now they call it mushy. And when you just decide
Speaker 1: that you're going to pretend to race a truck for
Speaker 1: just two seconds, two in the morning, odds are your
Speaker 1: face will hit the dirt is not going to turn
Speaker 1: out way. And that is what happened to me. I
Speaker 1: ended up leaving Stanley.
Speaker 4: Idoh.
Speaker 1: I went to like their little Quickcare clinic, which shout
Speaker 1: out to the Stanley Quickcare Clinic. It sounds like and
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but the information that I was
Speaker 1: told is that lady kind of just started the clinic
Speaker 1: because of an incident that happened with her son, and
Speaker 1: she opened it just to give people help in that area,
Speaker 1: because you have to go pretty far to get to it, to.
Speaker 2: Me, unless they come in with a helicopter. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're hours away from any serious so she's kind.
Speaker 1: Of the closest thing to any air. But they cleaned
Speaker 1: me up pretty good, but I cleaned myself up pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's just say that Austin decided to race
Speaker 2: the truck for no good reason, face planted in a
Speaker 2: pile of gravel and ended up with a severe road rash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that was That was literally July, yeah, third,
Speaker 1: three months ago, and I still have like a wound open.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it on my knee and my foot.
Speaker 2: He was kind of messed up, and then he he
Speaker 2: was so sorry could move. So we took him to
Speaker 2: the instacare place and they scrubbed it with wire brushes.
Speaker 1: This is a horse brush to get where to get all.
Speaker 2: The gravel out of your leg and stuff.
Speaker 1: But anyway, they described and paid off. It was fine.
Speaker 2: You could have been messed up for a long time
Speaker 2: if I think.
Speaker 1: I did break my left toe and I had to
Speaker 1: I borrowed some crutches. It was a bad deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so spirits were involved. I'm just relating.
Speaker 2: Into a year store. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: There was an incident outside of a bar in the
Speaker 1: same geographical region. Yeah, near thirty miles of each other. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: there were spirits involved.
Speaker 2: Oh, leaving liquor.
Speaker 1: I mean he died and became a ghost, and I
Speaker 1: drink okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe different kinds of spirits, but kind of.
Speaker 1: And then somebody bled a lot, maybe two people did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's basically the same story as you told but mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the most memorable parts of
Speaker 2: this July fifth, I was a face playing.
Speaker 1: Pretty much ruined my weekend. Yeah, my week Hey, so
Speaker 1: just just to say three months.
Speaker 2: If you're not I mean, if you're wearing thongs or
Speaker 2: you know, as the modern.
Speaker 1: People's songs, they were not sandals, your flip flops. No,
Speaker 1: they were choco sandals with the toe strap.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The problem wasn't the shoe, Yeah, it was the ground.
Speaker 1: It's the loose gravel.
Speaker 2: So the problem was you decided, hey, I'm going to
Speaker 2: raise a truck.
Speaker 1: I wasn't racing a truck. I was sarcastically racing a truck.
Speaker 6: It was a big difference.
Speaker 2: Well, if you try to outrun a truck and you
Speaker 2: face planned, that's trying to race a truck. I'm just no.
Speaker 1: I turned around, I took two steps and I face planted.
Speaker 4: In the ground.
Speaker 1: It like a medior in a movie.
Speaker 2: I don't think any alcohol was involved.
Speaker 1: No, no, no. It was two in the morning. I
Speaker 1: had been drinking water all day long.
Speaker 2: Any alcohol involved only helped prepare you to deal with
Speaker 2: the pain. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Alcohol. The only reason I had alcohol was to help
Speaker 1: me because I knew I was gonna fall, so I
Speaker 1: thought I just cut the pain.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was a funny situation. But anyway, thus
Speaker 2: ends are Stanley Trip, Stanley Trip instigation to yeah, Austin
Speaker 2: healing up after his face playing.
Speaker 1: Eating total shit.
Speaker 2: And we we find out about this murder, the sad
Speaker 2: murder in Stanley, Idaho, and I understand that that Brett
Speaker 2: the son and his family still live in that region,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, my heartbreaks for them. You know,
Speaker 2: we kind of laugh because we're a podcast, but but
Speaker 2: what a terrible scenario.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nothing like me falling because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make my cousins laugh at a Fourth of July family
Speaker 1: reunion in Stanley, Idaho. It's a little more serious than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just a little bit. You know, we talked
Speaker 2: about the tough life that we've had over the last
Speaker 2: three years. A lot of people go through a lot worse,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about Brett and his family and this murder.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things in the news recently, that
Speaker 2: are terrible this world. Man, if I didn't have some
Speaker 2: kind of faith, something other than what I see and hear,
Speaker 2: I would be a total mess. You know, life is
Speaker 2: strange and there are so many crappy, crappy things going
Speaker 2: on every world. I'm just pick up the newspaper or
Speaker 2: or even better yet, just turn on your favorite news
Speaker 2: source on your Facebook, and then people are so divided
Speaker 2: and it is very very awful if you can only
Speaker 2: see that. And you know, for me, what saves me
Speaker 2: is I do have a faith. And I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get preachy or anything. I'm just saying. Without that,
Speaker 2: without something to give hope and purpose, what a dark
Speaker 2: place this world would be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But along with that, this place is beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: It is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Have you been to any cool like beautiful places lately?
Speaker 2: I have, Yes. I just got back from you Stone.
Speaker 1: You know what makes me think of Yellowstone every single time?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: There's two things, old faithful? No, no, no, okay, three things,
Speaker 1: slow down? Two things okay. One it's called Yellowstone, right, yep?
Speaker 2: Yellow is a color? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Number two Stone, old faithful what you already said, I said,
Speaker 1: But I know, I know but you weren't following my timeline. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what's yellow and squirts water semi often? I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta take a pee, my guy, let's take a break.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Well after that break break, Old Faithful was emptied.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: You know one thing I learned while we were in Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: It's spontaneous.
Speaker 2: No, they put a camera down Old faithfuls geyser. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and do you know that the blowhole that's underneath the ground,
Speaker 2: it's only like twenty feet deep, is only four inches
Speaker 2: in diameter four inches. Yeah, all that pressure comes out
Speaker 2: of four inches diameter. So that four inch diameter hole
Speaker 2: that's down there twenty feet cold water comes into that
Speaker 2: the chasm that the cavern that's twenty feet below the surface,
Speaker 2: and everything chokes down through that four inch hole. Shut
Speaker 2: up on dirty mindy. So then things start warming up
Speaker 2: underneath and it gets hotter enough, and the pressure build baby, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the pressure builds and.
Speaker 1: Builds until finally she's like, it reaches.
Speaker 2: And then it shoots all that stuff up through the
Speaker 2: hole and that's where you get the giant er. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it goes up.
Speaker 1: I'm familiar, like hundred and some feet anyway, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: Why doesn't that hole get bigger after so much use, after.
Speaker 8: After hundreds of years, Why is the blow bigger? I
Speaker 8: don't know, But anyway, it was a great time. Yellowstone
Speaker 8: was a really fun time. It sounds like we went there,
Speaker 8: we saw that.
Speaker 2: We went to uh uh, we went to gosh all
Speaker 2: the big sites, we saw the mud pots, we saw fumerals,
Speaker 2: we saw bison, lots of Yeah. We had a really
Speaker 2: cool video when we folded. When we first went into.
Speaker 1: The park and we're driving towards our.
Speaker 6: Campus spot, this big buffalo is like in the middle
Speaker 6: of the road and we can't go around it because
Speaker 6: cars are coming the other way and they keep stopping
Speaker 6: and taking pictures.
Speaker 8: Out the window.
Speaker 2: And I'm the motor home driving right behind this thing,
Speaker 2: and seriously, it is walking right in front of us.
Speaker 2: And the video yeah, yeah, it's a video, and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's ball sacks just sleeping. We're like, what
Speaker 2: do we do? What's the etiquette here?
Speaker 4: We'll move.
Speaker 2: So one of the highlights, at least for me, was
Speaker 2: going to this old hotel. It was called the Lake
Speaker 2: Yellowstone Hotel and dining room. I'm throw in the dining
Speaker 2: room because the dining room is like this real fancy
Speaker 2: place and we actually ate there and it costs like
Speaker 2: two hundred bucks for me and your mom. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a little pricey. Everything in Yellowstone is pricey.
Speaker 1: Inside the park, you know what comes cheap and quick though,
Speaker 1: what bison balls? This is true, Yeah, or at least
Speaker 1: they're a dozen at.
Speaker 2: That time of year they are. Yeah. So anyway, we
Speaker 2: go to this Lake Yellowstone hotel to eat. We had
Speaker 2: reservations and we show up and we had a little
Speaker 2: bit of time to kill and it's really neat because
Speaker 2: they have the sun room and you can like go
Speaker 2: in it's kind of a portico that sticks out towards
Speaker 2: the lake Yellowstone Lake, Yeah, and you can just sit
Speaker 2: out there and it's all glass and you can just
Speaker 2: look at the lake. It's very beautiful. And they have
Speaker 2: a piano player in there is playing a grand piano.
Speaker 2: It's very classy. I don't know why we were there,
Speaker 2: but anyway, it was classy. And while we were burning
Speaker 2: some time, I look over. They have a gift shop
Speaker 2: and right by the gift shop is like this stand.
Speaker 2: There was an easel and there's this painting that was
Speaker 2: being created of the mountains, which is close to the Tetons,
Speaker 2: and so it was the Teeton Mountains from a view
Speaker 2: within side of the Yellowstone Park somewhere, and it was beautiful,
Speaker 2: but the artist wasn't there, so I just kind of
Speaker 2: looked at it for a second. Went inside the gift
Speaker 2: shop and I bought a bottle of whiskey, which was
Speaker 2: because it's one hundred and fiftieth year celebration for Yellowstone
Speaker 2: International Park.
Speaker 1: YaST I had their own whiskey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a bottle of whiskey branded that has
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty. After I drink it all, which
Speaker 2: hopefully won't be too soon, I'm going to put it
Speaker 2: in my Sasquatch Wine home perfect. Yeah it's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So anyway, I'll put a picture of that up on
Speaker 2: the website as well. So I was in there looking
Speaker 2: at stuff, and while I was there, one of the
Speaker 2: friends we were with came running out and go, hey, Mike, Mike, Mike, come,
Speaker 2: you got to meet this guy. You gotta meet this guy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, and I figured it was the artist,
Speaker 2: and because I'm an artist, I thought maybe she had
Speaker 2: gone and said, oh, you got to meet my friend
Speaker 2: the artist, and anyway, I followed my friend out. We
Speaker 2: get out to this guy and he's a Native American.
Speaker 2: He has a bandana around his head, long dark hair
Speaker 2: with you know, he's probably a little older than me,
Speaker 2: so it has some gray kind of straight ating through it,
Speaker 2: but very classic looking Native American. A fellow, a very
Speaker 2: handsome guy. Yeah, And so I'm like, Okay, this is
Speaker 2: going to be kind of awkward, but I'll do it
Speaker 2: for my friend. And so I go up and my
Speaker 2: friend goes, hey, look at his ear and I look
Speaker 2: and there is like a sad squatch ear ring hanging from.
Speaker 1: His ear lobe.
Speaker 2: And I thought, well, that's kind of weird. She goes,
Speaker 2: tell him what you told me, Tell him what you
Speaker 2: told me. He has seen sasquatch And I'm like what
Speaker 2: and he goes. He goes, yeah, he goes, I'm a
Speaker 2: Jibway Indian and we have a long history of sasquatch
Speaker 2: or Yeti, or as they call them, bugwaye j Anini.
Speaker 2: I probably butchered that to my Native American friends.
Speaker 1: If I did, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he.
Speaker 1: Had a name for it.
Speaker 2: They also call it messabe or Sabe or Chemo sabe well,
Speaker 2: and I think there's probably a connection there. Maybe it
Speaker 2: means friend or brother, I'm not sure. But he talked
Speaker 2: a little bit about the Native American or at least
Speaker 2: his tribe's culture and their interaction with big feet or Sasquatches.
Speaker 2: What is the plural of Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Sasquay, Sasquai.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I talked to him for a bit. Very nice guy,
Speaker 2: and he is an incredible artist. His name is John Potter.
Speaker 2: If you want to get online, look up John Potter,
Speaker 2: artist and he'll come right up. And then I found
Speaker 2: out later after we got home that I actually went
Speaker 2: to the same art school at Utah State University and
Speaker 2: he studied illustration and design and I did as well, right,
Speaker 2: and so it's the same school, and it was really weird. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. So I stalked him a little bit
Speaker 2: on the internet and found his web page in his
Speaker 2: Facebook page. But he's a full time artist. He he
Speaker 2: just paints for a living and I envy that, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: And he's really good and he has such a humble,
Speaker 2: unique spirit. And when he talked about Sasquatch, he talked
Speaker 2: about him that he is part of his tribe. He
Speaker 2: is his brother interest and there's actually two tribes of
Speaker 2: Sasquatchasqua Sabis, Yeah, which is interesting. So I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do realist and go down the Sasquatch hole.
Speaker 1: No more mud ponds, no, no more mud butt.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to throw that out there because it
Speaker 2: was such a neat experience and I want to do
Speaker 2: maybe one, maybe a series on the Native American view
Speaker 2: of Sasquatch. I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably more authentic than Bubba Joe and his wife
Speaker 1: Trailer Parker. Yeah, didn't got took by them.
Speaker 2: Well, it throws in a whole different perspective. And I
Speaker 2: know when we did our first Sasquatch in Bigfoot series,
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about the Watchers because they
Speaker 2: were like giants and stuff and these cast out servants
Speaker 2: or sons of gods or little g gods, and that
Speaker 2: they came to Earth and part of the Book of
Speaker 2: Enich is that they actually tried to help mankind by
Speaker 2: giving them technology. And there's a lot of mythos around
Speaker 2: that and a lot of different cultures, and this sounded
Speaker 2: what he was saying sounded so much like it, and
Speaker 2: in fact, I asked him some questions and he said,
Speaker 2: you know, you should get this book. He says, there's
Speaker 2: a tribal elder who wrote a book a few years ago,
Speaker 2: and it was probably ten fifteen years ago. And the
Speaker 2: book is called the mushow Miss Book. And I'm probably
Speaker 2: mispronouncing that again, miss show Miss. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: The voice of the Ajibwe, the voice of the Ajibwe.
Speaker 2: And it's a cool book. So I got to hear
Speaker 2: in my hand.
Speaker 1: Kind of like a very simple art style, illustrated, almost
Speaker 1: like a kid's book, it seems like.
Speaker 2: But it looks like it almost reads like a children's storybook,
Speaker 2: but when you open it up, it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more history, like a learning book for kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all their kind of history and mythology. And
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's really neat. It's got tons of
Speaker 2: illustrations and they're very simple line drawing illustrations. It's very nice.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I picked that up. I got it on
Speaker 2: Amazon and it was only like fifteen bucks. Nice, and
Speaker 2: I'm so glad because there are stories in here about
Speaker 2: Sasquatch and YETI yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the picture of the YETI his eyes are
Speaker 1: like gleaming, yeah, right, and that's something you hear in
Speaker 1: sasquatch stories is how their eyes kind of glow.
Speaker 2: Turn red or whatever. And the other thing too, that's
Speaker 2: really weird about it is they talk about him, is
Speaker 2: that he can phase in and out of our dimension,
Speaker 2: that he's not necessarily landlocked to our world, that he
Speaker 2: floats in between and through the brain of this dimension.
Speaker 2: I thought that's really cool too. And this isn't old.
Speaker 2: This isn't like something that's been around for fifty years.
Speaker 2: It's been around for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. And
Speaker 2: that really makes me think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So just a shout out to John Potter. You're
Speaker 2: an awesome guy. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: One thing that's popped in my mind as we've been
Speaker 1: talking about sasquatch and stuff, and after I saw that
Speaker 1: picture in that book is there's a Stephen King novel.
Speaker 1: Imagine that I'm talking about Steven.
Speaker 2: Man crush, Yeah, a little bit, but.
Speaker 1: Bromance, my bromance, my bromance novel. He has a book
Speaker 1: called The Outsider. Yeah, and in that book, this entity
Speaker 1: is being can take the shape of anybody he comes
Speaker 1: in contact with, and he might have to have like
Speaker 1: a sample of their blood to do that.
Speaker 4: But a.
Speaker 1: Little girl has dreams about thisnster or actually sees it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fuzzy, but he has The girl describes
Speaker 1: it as straws for eyes, Like his eyes are coming out.
Speaker 2: Like a project out word, like a straw.
Speaker 1: And they're kind of like shiny and gleaming like coming
Speaker 1: out that comes out. Yeah, And he's a shape shifter,
Speaker 1: which is something that's kind of Native American. And you
Speaker 1: keep getting the windygo and skin walkers and stuff. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of like stuff with their eyes and how
Speaker 1: their eyes are different and they almost shine or they
Speaker 1: are glowing or they in this Stephen King novel, they portrude.
Speaker 1: They like are like I don't know. I just thought
Speaker 1: that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Almost like fat lasers coming out, sure, hollow fat lasers.
Speaker 2: It's a really small little beam. It's a wide beam.
Speaker 1: I picture like a smilering like, oh, like a tornado
Speaker 1: kind of coming out like a straw. You know, they
Speaker 1: like the straws with the stripes. Anyway, we're digressing. I
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting the whole uhh, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just popped in my head. I wonder if that has
Speaker 1: to do with Stephen King's research, and well, there are.
Speaker 2: So many stories and mythologies and a lot of the
Speaker 2: descriptions of those creatures and characters have those kind of
Speaker 2: eyes that are so bright they actually if you'll look
Speaker 2: in their eyes, it'll burn you or kill.
Speaker 1: You, yeah, or blind you, blind you, or feel you
Speaker 1: full of dread. You hear a lot. Yeah, interesting, it's
Speaker 1: kind of funny talking about the Native American history. And
Speaker 1: then also like the mimicking or like the shape shifting portion,
Speaker 1: because we just finished up or we were able to
Speaker 1: go on our Massacre Rocks water Babies investigation. Finally we
Speaker 1: even did an IDL yeah, which was so awful.
Speaker 2: We got to put that up uncut. We'll put it
Speaker 2: up because we suck at this. Yeah, and I flashed
Speaker 2: everybody and we.
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to know, I don't know, we haven't been
Speaker 1: doing any of our investigations. And then we go to
Speaker 1: this place as kind of a last minute deal and
Speaker 1: then we Yeah, it was hilarious, and we were freaking
Speaker 1: out out because there's bugs everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're being attacked by all kinds of insects, spiders.
Speaker 1: Were everywhere, and I grabbed a black widow and I
Speaker 1: tried to burn it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was under the table, so we're like creeped out. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it was a I don't know, but it was fun.
Speaker 2: It was and it's a beautiful place. We went along
Speaker 2: the Snake River to Massacre Rocks. Yeah. So what is
Speaker 2: Masker Rocks.
Speaker 1: It is a place, a geographical oddity on the Oregon Trail.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was on the Orgon Trail.
Speaker 1: Where basically there's just these this kind of the way
Speaker 1: the valley and everything comes together. It's a very narrow.
Speaker 2: Pass right between rocks.
Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot, but it is a bottleneck
Speaker 1: in the path, so you don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: vision around you, you know.
Speaker 2: And people could be hiding on the other side of.
Speaker 1: That narrow there's potential for a ambush massacre. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of where it gets its name. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, there was you know, like an altercation between white
Speaker 2: men and the Native Americans. But anyway, uh, people died.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a massacre, though. It got written up
Speaker 2: in newspapers and stuff and the name stuck. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was kind of cool. That's the history, but hey, we
Speaker 2: really weren't going there for the history of massacre rocks.
Speaker 2: We went there because it's also one of the reputed
Speaker 2: locations of this strange phenomena of Native American Indian lore
Speaker 2: of water babies, Right, what water babies.
Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about it before, but they might not
Speaker 1: have and we did our silly little skit where I
Speaker 1: was making all the sound effects.
Speaker 2: But they might not have heard that episode.
Speaker 1: Ye, So water babies and this kind of ties into
Speaker 1: what I was talking about with Stephen King and the
Speaker 1: shape shifting thing. Are these supposed creatures that live in
Speaker 1: the water and they might be the spirits of children
Speaker 1: that have been drowned, or maybe demons or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: But they used the sound of crying children and mimicry
Speaker 1: to lure people into the water at night to.
Speaker 2: Take them, drown them, eat them whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They kind of remind me of the Black Eyed Children
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, where they come to your door
Speaker 1: and they have their voice and they're like it's so cold,
Speaker 1: and they're like wearing like weird outfits and things are wrong.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, the water babies are similar to that,
Speaker 1: but they're trying to lure you out into the water
Speaker 1: at right.
Speaker 2: Which so the story of that location, which fits with
Speaker 2: what you're saying, is that there was a very cold
Speaker 2: winter and the Indian tribe that was there did not
Speaker 2: have food to feed their infants, and they knew they
Speaker 2: were going to die a slow, cold death, so instead
Speaker 2: of watching them suffer and die, they took their children
Speaker 2: down and threw them into the river to basically put
Speaker 2: them out of their misery, or if you don't want
Speaker 2: to say that they were being somehow kind of merciful,
Speaker 2: then they basically were looking out for themselves and decided, oh.
Speaker 1: We're not going to feed you don't want these burdens,
Speaker 1: get rid of them, which is the other one. I
Speaker 1: don't like either of them.
Speaker 2: But so anyway, they went down the cast them in,
Speaker 2: and then the spirits, in retribution for casting away their offspring,
Speaker 2: saved them and gave them the ability to either live
Speaker 2: underwater through growing gills, or they became kind of a
Speaker 2: spirit type being and they became water babies. And the
Speaker 2: water babies were angry and they lived to basically seek
Speaker 2: retribution against the people that killed them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's the that's the scope of the story,
Speaker 2: the legend and so and like you'd said in previous episodes,
Speaker 2: what a great way to keep your kids from going
Speaker 2: wandering down by the water.
Speaker 1: Then there's these monsters that will keep you no matter
Speaker 1: what you hear, don't go.
Speaker 2: By the water because the Snake River, especially in that area,
Speaker 2: is deep and wide and fast.
Speaker 1: In a lot of areas, there's like undertoes like crazy, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it is so narrow and deep.
Speaker 2: A lot of underground water passages that that flow through,
Speaker 2: because I mean, the whole thing is a volcanic area,
Speaker 2: and so water moves weird underneath the surface, and so
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they developed it for that reason, or
Speaker 2: maybe there's some kind of weird spiritual thing that happens
Speaker 2: there or transdimensional thing. I mean, it's not the only
Speaker 2: legend that people have about things in water calling them
Speaker 2: to their deaths.
Speaker 5: Sirens sirens, yeah, brother, Oh that's not that one.
Speaker 9: It's ye go to sleep, little baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah something. We're horrible.
Speaker 1: But anyway, by the way, I love that. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: The music is great. They've got like that Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that one means and then aham or that's a good one.
Speaker 1: That movie is awesome.
Speaker 2: I can relate to that song.
Speaker 1: I'm the new Damn par Familias.
Speaker 2: I'm here Papa familius.
Speaker 1: Damn spot Ye that movies.
Speaker 2: I'm a tapper, damn man, I'm a tepper day.
Speaker 1: I don't want fun. God, damn it. I'm a dipper
Speaker 1: dand kind of man.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: Anyway, if you haven't seen it, go watch it. If
Speaker 1: you have seen it, watch it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to water babies.
Speaker 1: George is gonna send us million dollars for that.
Speaker 2: I think. I don't think so, but okay, So back
Speaker 2: to water babies. The strange thing about all of these
Speaker 2: legends of people being let off in water to their death.
Speaker 2: You know, there might be something there. There might be
Speaker 2: some kind of demonic or spiritual or I don't know
Speaker 2: what you want to call it, thing that is bent
Speaker 2: on destroying humanity and people children there is for sure.
Speaker 2: So anything that they can do to lure people off
Speaker 2: to water and drown them.
Speaker 1: I think too of how desperate people have been in
Speaker 1: the past, and how much sound there is in the water.
Speaker 1: So people you know, coming from the east going west,
Speaker 1: or even Native American tribes suffering a long, hard, cold
Speaker 1: winter that they weren't expecting or weren't able to plan
Speaker 1: for because of white men coming across. You know, they're desperate,
Speaker 1: they're they're living not calorically well. They're not eating enough,
Speaker 1: they're not drinking enough, they're too cold, they're freezing. You know,
Speaker 1: all these problems in their lives. And then you're down
Speaker 1: by the water and you can hear you know, like
Speaker 1: a sand hill crane or the water just makes noise
Speaker 1: so many gargling animal, bubbling, crying sounds. There's like a
Speaker 1: waterfall is if you've by a big waterfall, it's almost
Speaker 1: overwhelming the sound. So there's so much noise you can
Speaker 1: get from the water.
Speaker 2: We'll blend that with coyotes. Yeah, and coyotes will sound
Speaker 2: like kids.
Speaker 1: Screaming sometimes Yeah it's kind of creepy. Or a mountain
Speaker 1: lion or yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you could pick a bunch of different things.
Speaker 2: And some of the birds make the weirdest noises.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cranes are weird, and frogs there weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we need to talk much more
Speaker 2: about water babies because either you know that I want
Speaker 2: to save that, maybe because we'll tie that back into
Speaker 2: the Native American legends. Because there's so many.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to get some good stories of people
Speaker 1: who have had those issues. We just haven't been able
Speaker 1: to do the research to get good stories because they're
Speaker 1: not that many. There's no ancient Native American type stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of yeah, legend, but there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of like yeah, like Chris and her girlfriend
Speaker 1: were out there and they had their toddler and the
Speaker 1: toddler went by the water and so they couldn't find it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's none of that stories. It's all just very old
Speaker 1: oral traditions and type stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but we did go down so get online
Speaker 2: check out our video. Anyway, we talked about some cool
Speaker 2: stuff today, So I think we got an episode here
Speaker 2: and at least we've kind of got back into the
Speaker 2: shwang a little bit of things.
Speaker 1: I do like how we went down there. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were out your side by side.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have a.
Speaker 1: Sweet hont of talent.
Speaker 2: Now sucker clams like our goat.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does. But we we went into this cool
Speaker 1: little cabin. We were into the cabin there, which we've
Speaker 1: never done. I don't think in my.
Speaker 2: Entire we couldn't take the best cabin.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was, Yeah, but we pulled up.
Speaker 1: They had like a little fire pit, a table that
Speaker 1: was infested with black little spiders, and then the cabin
Speaker 1: was I mean just a futon and a bunk bed
Speaker 1: and they had a refrigerator which was cool, yeah, and
Speaker 1: a window ac unit so.
Speaker 2: It was actually bougie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually pretty good. But we went down
Speaker 1: to walk to the water, and this is crazy. I've
Speaker 1: never seen this before.
Speaker 2: I mean, either this is a strange time we can
Speaker 2: do an episode or not. Just this.
Speaker 1: We're walking down there and the way down to the
Speaker 1: water wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: No, I saw a cactus and there's wide paths to
Speaker 2: walk on with weeds on sticking up on the side.
Speaker 1: So we go down to the water and as soon
Speaker 1: as we get to the water, I saw a hornet
Speaker 1: that was the side of the baseball and that freaked
Speaker 1: me out a little bit. And then there's like this
Speaker 1: big rock cliff on our right, and then the rivers
Speaker 1: down on our left, and there's cattail type reed plants
Speaker 1: all around us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll see in the drone footage.
Speaker 1: They'll go to the website. But as soon as we
Speaker 1: turn around to walk back, every path was covered by
Speaker 1: a spider web Yeah, they were like a garden or
Speaker 1: orb spider, I don't remember what they're called.
Speaker 2: It's like they went from one side of the path
Speaker 2: to the other ends built a big complex web.
Speaker 1: Between cross all over the plan and it was like
Speaker 1: they waited for us to go to the water and
Speaker 1: try to come back because we couldn't walk anywhere without
Speaker 1: And they were hugs themselves were still the size of
Speaker 1: the spiders they were either they were massive that that
Speaker 1: freaked me out that it was much more terrifying than
Speaker 1: water baby thoughts.
Speaker 2: For sure. I felt like I had spiders crawling on
Speaker 2: me all night.
Speaker 1: And then their webs were so sticky, tough and sticky
Speaker 1: like like we ended up kind of like getting stakes
Speaker 1: or like pushing them down with our feet and then
Speaker 1: the spider would run away. It wasn't a big deal,
Speaker 1: but the web would just stick to your shoes, stuck
Speaker 1: on your arms, your clothes.
Speaker 2: They were so many it's weird. I was having dreams
Speaker 2: of she lob around the.
Speaker 1: Terrible filter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was like. I mean they were big.
Speaker 2: I'd say they were bigger, probably fifty cent piece size.
Speaker 2: They were huge, yep, And they were like all over
Speaker 2: it wasn't like just one.
Speaker 1: No, there were thousands. It was insane.
Speaker 2: It was nuts. And they were down by the down
Speaker 2: by you know where we took the little video. They
Speaker 2: were like in the bushes on the sides.
Speaker 1: It was weird because I didn't see a single one
Speaker 1: on the way down there.
Speaker 2: I think that's why the next day when we went
Speaker 2: on the side by side drive, but we were all
Speaker 2: creeped out up into the south hills. We had insect paranoia, yeah,
Speaker 2: we did. And then the insects attacked us in our side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in the side by side And I
Speaker 1: think the first big one that I mean other than
Speaker 1: like get the you know, like shake your arm because
Speaker 1: but the first one where I like jumped and kind
Speaker 1: of like had like a little thing giangrass, there was
Speaker 1: a big grasshopper and it had gone up my shorts
Speaker 1: and I think it got lost in my shorts because
Speaker 1: it's just started like jumping and it felt like somebody
Speaker 1: was like in my pants, just like flicking me over
Speaker 1: and over again, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, what the heck?
Speaker 1: So I picked up my pants and.
Speaker 2: Inctly, then you knock it on the floor, then smash
Speaker 2: it in the floor of the side by side.
Speaker 1: Because the side by side was so clean, Well it
Speaker 1: was dirty, have bug guts all over it. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we switched places maybe two minutes after that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I'm right, you're drive driving and you're riding
Speaker 1: and you freak.
Speaker 2: Out because well, what was on my leg was much
Speaker 2: more terrifying than a grasshopper, because when you see a grasshopper,
Speaker 2: you go, oh, it's a grasshopper. They're creepy there, they
Speaker 2: stick to.
Speaker 4: You, weird, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't like grasshoppers on me. But anyway, it's a grasshopper.
Speaker 2: But there was this big, huge, black, long beetle on
Speaker 2: my leg and it had this giant red head. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that thing.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a bug like that before.
Speaker 2: Notice I didn't panic, Yeah you did.
Speaker 1: You went He's like freaked out. And I slowed way
Speaker 1: down because I I was going on.
Speaker 2: And then I opened the door right and I knocked
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, knocked out the door. And then then
Speaker 2: we got into the bees. The wasps were everywhere we
Speaker 2: pulled up.
Speaker 1: I think those were hornets. But we pulled off to
Speaker 1: like a little area to overlook and have a couple
Speaker 1: of beers. And hang out and look at like the
Speaker 1: cool valley and it was really cool. But after two
Speaker 1: seconds of being there, it's like, what the It's like
Speaker 1: there's like hornets.
Speaker 2: I think we must have parked on it underground the.
Speaker 1: Hole because everywhere everywhere. And then we're driving off and
Speaker 1: I'm like, go, go go, and you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's one on me and I flick it. It hits
Speaker 1: me and it goes back behind my seat and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you gotta pull over because now if I lean back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get stun So I hop out and kind
Speaker 1: of brush the be out of there. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all messed up.
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, we did have a great time.
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was fun. Well, gosh, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: we've been talking a long time. There we have and
Speaker 2: you got to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go eat some borders.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that our next episode will be much
Speaker 2: sooner than this one was.
Speaker 1: And have a better topic and more concise roadmap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we got ideas on things we
Speaker 2: want to do and so we'll just go for it.
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