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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, it's been a hot minute. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long time. It's been at least fifty one minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's been like two months.

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<v Speaker 1>It has. It's pretty pathetic, it is, I mean, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>Life's been busy. We've been busy, and we don't do

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<v Speaker 2>this for money because we don't get any from it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got to do what we got to do

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<v Speaker 2>to make the money that we got to make so

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<v Speaker 2>that we can do this when we can do this

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we're here finally, Yes, after a long pause, sabbatical, sabbatical,

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<v Speaker 1>sabbatical with a B no a V.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, that's weird. We see the same thing. Yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>like VD. We're here BD.

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<v Speaker 1>So the bababbical and we're back coming at you Live

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<v Speaker 1>with episode number fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Stranges.

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<v Speaker 3>That was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was cool, but I like

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<v Speaker 1>to definitely blew up somebody's earplugs and made somebody's dog bark.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, so hope, so so bad. But anyway, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to be back in the studio. We have

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<v Speaker 2>been doing things. We've gone places, we've done things, we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Seen things, so many things, we just haven't told people

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Now we're keeping it on that inside.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to try to maybe enlighten people of

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that have been going on for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, let's get down to the breast tacks and

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about what's been going on.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to go back in time. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say the last couple of years have been really

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<v Speaker 2>hard for a lot of people, including most of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. Oh yeah, there was this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Called Corona which mysteriously just disappeared, right, whoa, whoa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned this like every episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know our lives are we don't all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, Corona is no longer a big deal anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen. I mean, do you hear that in the news.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went from Corona Extra to Corona Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if you think about the Corona years and

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<v Speaker 2>the year before. Okay, let's just lay out a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things, and I'm sure a lot of other of

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners could do the same thing as we do ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody get your layout.

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<v Speaker 2>We've lost three out of our four grandparents and parents

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<v Speaker 2>they died. Yeah, it's rough in the last three years,

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half years, so that's been going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I had four stints put in my heart and my ticker.

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<v Speaker 2>They say I had a heart attack, although I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that I had an heart attack. So that that's

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<v Speaker 2>been a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just saying, you're being a baby for complaining

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<v Speaker 1>that just hurting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there was that kind of thing going on.

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<v Speaker 2>There was all kinds of weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and coming up on three years now is my

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<v Speaker 1>son's third birthday. Yeah, even that was thrown in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife's pregnancy, like we've mentioned before, was not

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<v Speaker 1>super blame. So we had all kinds of stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming out of it, we're digging out. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say this is the this setting the baseline, right

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<v Speaker 2>which was really low. Said good drink. My martini is

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<v Speaker 2>tasting very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, mine's clinky?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>But you can tell it's just vodka and fresco.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're drinking in a plastic glass, which gives us

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to say, just because we're drinking doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that we are saying everybody should drink. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>are not a drinker, welcome. If you are a drinker, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>But no matter whether you are or you aren't drink responsibly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you drink, no matter what you drink, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like you the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what you know? This is true, hermit. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm digging this out. So this is the baseline. Things

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<v Speaker 2>have been really rough. But you know, we started this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and right at the beginning of all that roughness.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a strange thing about that. Yeah, go through

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<v Speaker 2>all of the trials and tribulations that we've had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from the deaths that we talked about even before deaths

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<v Speaker 2>with Dad, finding Alzheimer's dementia, and we did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stories about some of these things as we went

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<v Speaker 2>through all of this stuff, and it got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, life is very strange, and everybody deals with

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff. So it's good, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it's bad. And there are these things in life

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<v Speaker 2>that make life worth living. And one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>is being able to do things with family and friends

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<v Speaker 2>that you enjoy. And one of those things for me

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<v Speaker 2>is being here in the studio with you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>get to go out on our adventures and live life

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<v Speaker 2>and see things and experience stuff things that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to do. And I hope other people get to

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<v Speaker 2>do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That was a good time. Yeah, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate those things too. I was talking to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>today or recently, sometime in the recent and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, like, one of my things I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to is recording and going and doing stuff with Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't been doing that lately.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's been kind of depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sentimental moment over, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I come home and I drive into the

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<v Speaker 2>driveway and I see the mothership unfinished, it's like calling

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<v Speaker 2>to me. It's like out there sitting lonely and dejected

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<v Speaker 2>in the driveway. I have to put a battery tender

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<v Speaker 2>on it every once in a while so the battery

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go dead. Yeah, you know, it makes me sad

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart. Oh yeah, but there are other things

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<v Speaker 2>that make me feel happy, Like I bought a side

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<v Speaker 2>by side that makes me happy. Yeah. So we've had

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<v Speaker 2>a few adventures with those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we have. And so that's some crazy bugs great,

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<v Speaker 1>oh gosh, Yeah, black beetles with redheads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's not even a band name.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Beetles and red heads, Black Beetles and red head. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are new to our podcast, we are called

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<v Speaker 2>a strange thing for a reason because we like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk and think and investigate strange things in all of

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<v Speaker 2>the different varieties.

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<v Speaker 3>True crime, cryptis, cryptids, cryptos, yeah, murder, weird thoughts, people

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<v Speaker 3>who do strange things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just go on. I mean, it's endless,

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<v Speaker 2>it's bottomless. It's like a pit.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, pits are notoriously not bottomless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, bottomless, pit is bottomless. I like pits, pits, arm pits,

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<v Speaker 2>top like top your pick, though, let's.

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<v Speaker 4>Move on.

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<v Speaker 2>This trend. I'm pick where girls don't shave their armpits anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like that? Do you find that attractive?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? It makes me think of?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Jungle love driving me mad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I wasn't really thinking about that, but that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Hey, if you don't shave your armpits, that's your decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's totally fine with me. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>It might make me look twice just because it's rare,

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<v Speaker 2>but not because I think it's disgusting. I just think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's intriguing. Wow, that's strange to me. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a strange thing, which brings us back.

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<v Speaker 2>To who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>A strange thing podcast like a promo video. We just

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<v Speaker 1>did a ranting.

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<v Speaker 2>We went a strange way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Imitation, obscure, music difference, maybe not so obscure. Talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a strange thing being bare seeing. That's about it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>our that's our thing. And don't forget our Yeah, never

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<v Speaker 1>forget the armpair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I've got plenty. Okay, all right, So anyway, episode

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one, and we're back in the studio and it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to be here, and we are going to fill

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners because we know they are awaited with baited breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all four of them passed down right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe we have three now because it's been

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<v Speaker 2>so long since we.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably lost Like I'm tired of holding my breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I thought maybe they were old and just died.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be, you know. Yeah, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>just bring you up to date. So since our last episode,

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<v Speaker 2>which I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even remember what it was, it was so long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about water babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were going to talk about water babies, but

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<v Speaker 2>we never got a chance because we kept teasing people

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<v Speaker 2>to say, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to go out and we're going to do an

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<v Speaker 1>investigation on water babies. But people had to ruin our

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<v Speaker 1>lives with responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did go out on an investigation, so we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to talk about that. But pre water babies,

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<v Speaker 2>we did something else. We went to this place in

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<v Speaker 2>Idaho called Stanley.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very ugly. I mean it's like a swamp

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with a desert mixed with like a dairy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is so disgusting. I've got video from the

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<v Speaker 2>drone that I purchased. I've got video and we'll put

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<v Speaker 2>that up on our website so you can see how

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<v Speaker 2>ugly it is because I mean there are no mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no water, it's no greenery. It's just icky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Like I remember we were we were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like driving up this mountain. Yeah, but I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a mountain. It was just like a flat plain

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<v Speaker 1>with garbage on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I came up to the top and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I really expect to see like a cool river coming

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<v Speaker 1>down into like a little tiny village and like trees

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<v Speaker 1>and foraging and nice beautiful sunset and mountains and like

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<v Speaker 1>a cool skyline and miles and miles of beautiful frontier terrain,

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<v Speaker 1>and all it was is garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't move No, don't forget. There was the boiling pot

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<v Speaker 2>of pus that was there. I mean too much. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's gross, it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't want people to move here. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, let's get honest here.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley is beautiful, fantastic, and they have a beautiful emergency

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<v Speaker 1>care clinic they do, which you experienced, but we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. But we went there for the fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how long it's been people. We went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth of July Extravaganza in Stanley, Ido. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks display that used to be really good, but actually

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<v Speaker 1>this year sucked. Yeah, sucked it did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was pretty because well occasionally it was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Went off even in July. There was snow on like

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<v Speaker 1>on the north side. Yeah, and when the fireworks went off,

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<v Speaker 2>Those periodic moments of beauty were cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird. It was like there was no choreography.

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<v Speaker 2>There weren't that many. And then like the extravaganza, I

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<v Speaker 2>but there were pretty things. We'll put the video and

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<v Speaker 2>some pictures of that experience up there. But Stanley is

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful place in the mountains. The Redfish Lake is nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch quote unquote was just a dude getting murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, but this precedes the murder we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so there is a murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is a murder in Stanley, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>more about a there's a website that records all bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>and find out if there's been any bigfoot activity there.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a person that felt like they were

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<v Speaker 2>chased or followed by a bigfoot type creature and it

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<v Speaker 2>stayed up on a bank. It was making all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of weird noise, kind of howling, growling and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>think there were three eyewitnesses that saw this. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>it in Stanley as far as bigfoot tasquatch, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Yeah, so three people didn't say something got scared

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, basically and told stories that collaborated each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. It sounds like three dudes went camping drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, really if when we got back we saw

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think that's what happened, because the people

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<v Speaker 2>actually that reported one of them worked there and was

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<v Speaker 2>a lady and was not a drinking drunk. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a drinker. Christ leep that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, well people can't figure out phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, we're no prejudice here.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, what were we talking about before you.

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<v Speaker 1>Derailed me with bigfoot in Stanley?

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<v Speaker 2>You're chastising my upbringing you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't die.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with you literally my whole life. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap, Holy I hate it when I spilled my martini

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<v Speaker 2>because of I didn't say something, but I didn't because

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<v Speaker 2>we were recorded.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, no, it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost ninety percent of my martini. I've got a napkin.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah already. Then now that we got that mask cleaned up,

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<v Speaker 1>back to you, Mike, Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were talking about how we went to Stanley

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<v Speaker 2>and we were trying to find something cool there because

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to utilize the location for an investigation if

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<v Speaker 2>there was something to investigate. Well, the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't amount to much, although there is one there that's recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I did find was something else that was

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting and somewhat sad, and it was a murder

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<v Speaker 2>that took place in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen eighty, you say, yes, I did. As every other

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<v Speaker 1>podcast goes, I'm going to look up what the top

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<v Speaker 1>songs and movies were for that time period.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Top probably Michael Jackson, Top nineteen eighties country because it's Stanley, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, they weren't listening to Michael Jackson. There was

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<v Speaker 1>there's none of that going on in Stanley. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all like country music. You were always on

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. Yeah he was awesome, and uh, there was

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<v Speaker 1>probably this is kind of relatable to this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there was.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not a coward in the county.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Kenny Rogers counter of the county yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is funny because I don't know if any of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine Media, but they have a couple of cool

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<v Speaker 1>episodes called that When One Calls Podcasts with the Operator

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<v Speaker 1>and Ken Chungus and also True Crame Can't, which also

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<v Speaker 1>stars the Operator, but it's a Southern podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Operator gets around.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah he does get that around Russians, but always Russian,

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<v Speaker 1>any thing Russian. I don't know if he's Russian. He

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<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna make him anyone you can't is definitely Southern.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the operator operator. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>If he was Russian, his Monday's.

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<v Speaker 4>Names.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to talk about the one Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen whatever it is. Whatever they are fun podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys should check them out. Eleven fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Media Yep, yep, mucho bo Okay, Okay, back to what

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Kennywardo County.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we weren't really talking about him, but you derailed

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<v Speaker 2>us and talked about music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, top hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Country music hits in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen eighty e Feller dot.

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<v Speaker 2>That Kenny Rogers. Oh no, oh no, you mean the

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<v Speaker 2>murder Okay, okay, yeah, okay. I got to get my

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<v Speaker 2>cheat sheet.

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<v Speaker 4>I had it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where to go? It's a piece of paper?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you still do?

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<v Speaker 2>Great?

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<v Speaker 4>I got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this was a while ago, so I had

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<v Speaker 2>to I had to do a cheat sheet because I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember everything that we'd studied, because we investigate hard. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So what I found out in nineteen eighty which I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was in September, Yeah, except Umber twenty second.

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<v Speaker 2>According to my chichi, there was a murderer. And this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't actually in Stanley. This took place about thirty miles

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<v Speaker 2>to the east of Stanley, Okay, in a small town

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<v Speaker 2>called Clayton. But it's I mean in that area in

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<v Speaker 2>the mountains. It might as well be Stanley because that's Closetocons. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Philocons.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like I can come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight of night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's of night. It's tonight, Hey, goog what are the

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics to phil Collins? I can feel it coming in

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<v Speaker 2>the air of night.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a song, you idiot, don't dun't bats I

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<v Speaker 1>can feel it coming in yet tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It is tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh lord?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, goes. But I always thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>in the air of night.

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<v Speaker 1>Two funny things about Phocons. Yeah, I'd hang out with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't go swimming with him. Why because he

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<v Speaker 1>saw me I was drowning, bud.

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<v Speaker 2>He would not.

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<v Speaker 7>Land hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote the music for Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you be in my heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I think so. Tarzan in that movie says Clayton,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the name of the town that we

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<v Speaker 2>Weird, this is connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't proud of you, old son?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, you connected it. I don't think our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners to what the heck we're talking about the will

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, look it up. So yes, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>rewind back to what we were talking about, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a small town in Clayton. There was a murder on

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<v Speaker 2>September twentieth September on September was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's my TG?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he isn't TG.

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<v Speaker 8>Where to go there?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's twenty twenty one, twenty one, thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Sold Okay, right, okay, there was a murder on September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty second in nineteen eighty And you know, okay, murders

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<v Speaker 2>happen all the time, so it's not like a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean they lost their dad's son or brother,

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<v Speaker 2>mother whatever, child, mother, brother, I know, the mother mother murders.

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<v Speaker 2>Murders happened all the times, I'm saying. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we listened to the news, we read it in

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<v Speaker 2>the paper. We hear about it all the time. Murder, murder, murder, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying that that's a good thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying that it's common.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is common for people to die out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then investigators go out, they investigate the murder,

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<v Speaker 2>they catch the bad guy, they put him away, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they get out after a year and they start

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<v Speaker 2>a multimillion dollar company. Maybe I don't know. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about our justice system. That is another

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<v Speaker 2>strange thing that we could talk about at another time.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a murder in Clayton, which is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five miles east of Stanley, Idaho, where we were

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<v Speaker 2>on the fourth of July. And what makes this unique

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<v Speaker 2>is there was this guy named Dan Woolly. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be respectful for Dan and his family because this

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<v Speaker 2>is a heart wrenching thing and it's a strange thing

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and we'll get into that. So Dan Woolly

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<v Speaker 2>was a rancher outside of Clayton, Idaho. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>son named Brett, and one day Brett was out on

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<v Speaker 2>his motorcycle and he crashed and he was hurt and

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<v Speaker 2>he was laid up for a bit. And so Dan

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<v Speaker 2>want to come into town and have a beer with

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<v Speaker 2>your old man. I mean, it sounds like something that

430
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say to you, right, And so Brett, being

431
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:13.440
<v Speaker 2>laid up because of his motorcycle crash, says, you know, Dad,

432
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like it. And so Dan Woolly the

433
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>dad went to town alone and he went to a place

434
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:24.200
<v Speaker 2>in Clayton called the Sports Bar. He knew people there,

435
00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the people of the town of Clayton, which had, you know,

436
00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.279
<v Speaker 2>probably a few hundred people because it was a mining town.

437
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knew Dan said he was a nice guy, great guy,

438
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and he was a friend to everybody. Well, Dan went

439
00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.039
<v Speaker 2>to the bar and something happened in the bar and

440
00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.839
<v Speaker 2>a fart A fight started.

441
00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:52.759
<v Speaker 6>Jeez, jeez, So a fight started in the bar, and

442
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.720
<v Speaker 6>I had that's totally an excellent.

443
00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:00.680
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, okay, gonna keep going.

444
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So a fight started in the bar.

445
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>And uh. And there are different rumors as to what happened.

446
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Some say that there were a couple miners that were

447
00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 2>working in town. They were Montana boys, so they they'd

448
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.519
<v Speaker 2>come over from Montana, were working in the mines in Clayton. Uh,

449
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:21.440
<v Speaker 2>probably a silver mine and uh as somebody had said

450
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>something that insulted a wife or a girlfriend or something,

451
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.599
<v Speaker 2>and the Swan dude decided he wasn't gonna take it

452
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>anymore and started a ruckus. And this guy's name was

453
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Walter Mason was a bad mason and like a free mason.

454
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't gonna say that, but good call. Yeah, this

455
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>this Mason, Walter Mason. His history was he was an

456
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>ex rodeo cowboy and he had kind of rolled into

457
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>town and he was known to be kind of rough

458
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.359
<v Speaker 2>and would like to scrap and fight.

459
00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.519
<v Speaker 1>And anyway, he was Johnny Ringo kind of yeah, he.

460
00:23:58.480 --> 00:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Was muscle Sony.

461
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:00.240
<v Speaker 4>Way.

462
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 2>These two Montana boys got a fight with them and

463
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>they spilled out into the parking lot and Dan Dan Wooley,

464
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:12.559
<v Speaker 2>the dad, being a good guy, saw that Walter Mason

465
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>was in trouble and reportedly went out to kind of

466
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>help to stop the fight. And the bartender went out too,

467
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>So they went out in the parking lot. This ruckus

468
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.759
<v Speaker 2>is going on. The two Montana boys are beating up

469
00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.839
<v Speaker 2>on Walter Mason, and Dan Wooley comes out with the

470
00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:29.599
<v Speaker 2>bartender and they try to break things up.

471
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<v Speaker 7>I have boys, now, I'm taking it easy. Yeah, he's

472
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.920
<v Speaker 7>just an all that old boy, not like Montana folk.

473
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<v Speaker 7>So this sorry, bake you pot so the don't you

474
00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 7>take I'm sorry.

475
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to interrupt. Just talking all the talking,

476
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:45.799
<v Speaker 1>all of them.

477
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm talking a lot, but because I got

478
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>this story and you're just like here for sat tire,

479
00:24:52.240 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's true almost a color color. So the fights spilled

480
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>out into the parking lot and this guy, Walter Mason,

481
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>somehow breaks free. I don't know if the things had

482
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>simmer down a bit or maybe Dan Woolly and the

483
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>bartender were holding the Montana boys back. Whatever, but Walter

484
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Mason runs off towards his truck and he gets a handgun.

485
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>He gets a pistol, and he comes back and he

486
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>starts firing, and he fires at least two shots. One

487
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>of the shots hits one of the Montana boys in

488
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the arm. The other shot hits Dan Wooly in the face.

489
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 2>He kills Yeah, the dad kills him instantly. Bad bad juju,

490
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean a bad thing, right. So anyway, Dan Woolly

491
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>was murdered, Walter Mason executed. He walks into the bar

492
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>across the street from the sports bar, because there were

493
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 2>two bars in town, and he goes up to the

494
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>bartender and he says, I just killed a man and

495
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>just killed Then he leaves and that it's the last

496
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>he was seen.

497
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll he fill in a creak and twisted his ankle in.

498
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, poor Brett and the son is at home

499
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>with his bomb, healing up from a motorcycle crash and

500
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a pound on the door comes and it's a couple

501
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>of police officers and they say, hey, your husband was

502
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 2>just killed. Yikes at the sports bar.

503
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>The son who was going to go with him.

504
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>And Brett upstairs. Here's his mommy wail crying and runs

505
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>down the stairs the best he can. And that's the

506
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>memory of finding out about how his dad was murdered

507
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and quite full. Yeah, terrible story, but it keeps going.

508
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 2>The story keeps going.

509
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got it. I think I have a story

510
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>related to this, to be honest, but continue.

511
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the law enforcement come, they investigate. They're looking

512
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 2>for this Walter Mason everywhere, can't find him anywhere. During

513
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the investigation, they find out a few interesting things. One

514
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 2>of the things is that Walter Mason was affiliated with

515
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>a famous mobster named Benny Benyon. Benny Benyon, Benny Benyon,

516
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>which out of Las Vegas there was Benyon's Horseshoe Club.

517
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>He was known to be a mobster, reported to have

518
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>killed a few people.

519
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>On his own.

520
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're finding those people now hitt Lake Mead as

521
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>it dries up and they're fighting bodies down there. I

522
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but Anyway, Benny Benyon supposedly or through hearsay,

523
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>knew this Walter Mason because Walter Mason was a rodeo guy,

524
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a pro rodeo guy. It was well known that Benny

525
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Benyon liked the rodeo cowboys and a lot of them

526
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>because they were really strong, wiry, fighty scrappy dudes, and

527
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>they were very very useful for him.

528
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>In his henchmanness, in his well yeah you know.

529
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>And what he was reported to do is that he

530
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 2>would pay for these cowboys want to be cowboys, their

531
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>entrance fees into rodeos, and then in return he would

532
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 2>expect favors. And some of that was that they were

533
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Benny Benyon's hired muscle. So, as the story goes, a

534
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of people believed that Benny Benyon and his ilk

535
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>spirited Walter Mason away as a hit man, that they

536
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.599
<v Speaker 2>took him out of the picture, that they took him

537
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:21.559
<v Speaker 2>away and hit him somewhere. The other story is that

538
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe the rodeo friends that he had in the pro

539
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 2>rodeo circuit helped him escape. But anyway, he disappeared and

540
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a man hunt and nobody could find Walter Mason.

541
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 1>W Mason.

542
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 2>That sucks. He just was gone, and during the interim

543
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 2>of his absence, a lot of people suspected that maybe

544
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Brett and his brothers had maybe found Walter Mason and

545
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 2>took him out and killed him in retribution for the

546
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 2>murder of their dad. One of the articles I read

547
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>said that Brett was always like he felt like he

548
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 2>was a marked person because people would always suspect that

549
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe he had murdered this Walter Mason guy who killed

550
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>his dad. Okay, but so he kind of put it

551
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 2>away right in his head, and years went by, years

552
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>went by, four decades go by, forty years go by,

553
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>no sign of Walter Mason, and then just by happenstance.

554
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>In a small town out of Texas called Rising Star.

555
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Rising Star, a woman is surfing through Facebook and stumbles

556
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 2>across a news report about the murder that took place

557
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>in Clayton, Idaho, and she recognizes a picture, and so

558
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 2>she starts doing a little sleuthing and she contacts the

559
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>family of Dan Wooley and says, hey, I think my

560
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>mom's common law husband might be Walter Mason. And so

561
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>they start comparing pictures from old photographs and they discover

562
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>that this truly is Walter Mason, although now Walter Mason

563
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 2>is going by Walter Allison, and he'd been living with

564
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>the mom of this lady who had found him on

565
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Facebook for over twenty years.

566
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

567
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>And then when the mom died, this daughter stumbles across

568
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>this information and contacts the Wooly family. They contact the police,

569
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and then one day the police show up on Walter

570
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Mason slash Allison's doorstep, and when confronted, Walter Mason confesses

571
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to the murder of Dan Woolly nearly forty years earlier.

572
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, yeah, that's crazy.

573
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So he disappears for forty.

574
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Years, eighties, forty years.

575
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>They locate him on October tenth, twenty nineteen. Okay, that's

576
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>when they find him.

577
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

578
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is crazy. So a long time later, the

579
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>article goes on to talk about Brett, the son, who says,

580
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, I wasn't expecting he'd kind of put it aside. Yeah,

581
00:30:57.880 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, it never would leave, but he'd kind of

582
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 2>put decide And then all of a sudden this comes back.

583
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Well anyway, law enforcement extradites this guy from Texas to Idaho,

584
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 2>and he's now eighty seven years old. He's an old dude,

585
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>and he's not in good health, and his common law

586
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>wife had recently died like six months earlier.

587
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh me, and good hurt us.

588
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>He's eighty seven years old, right, So they bring him

589
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 2>back to Idaho to put him on trial for the

590
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>murder of Dan Woolly. And it looks like, you know,

591
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Brett and his family are finally going to have closure

592
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>to this murder. Mister, Well that's good, yeah, but he's

593
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>not doing well. This Walter Mason, this Walter Allison. He's old,

594
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>he's feeble, he's got dementia. He ends up going to

595
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a long term care facility, maybe a diarrhea in hobes

596
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>that they can finally put him on trial for the murder.

597
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>But guess what what, he dies in the care facility

598
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>on June first, twenty twenty one. He's never prosecuted for

599
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>the murder of Dan Woolly. He's confessed to it, but

600
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>he dies, and because of his mental health and his

601
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.079
<v Speaker 2>physical health, he's never put on trial.

602
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully there was at least some not closure, but

603
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 1>like answers to some of their stuff.

604
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm sure there was closure, but it's

605
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>still a weird thing. And there's a lot of rumors

606
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 2>surrounding this because of the connection to Benny Benyon, who

607
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>was a mobster, and so there's all the speculation that

608
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Benny Benyon was involved in helping this murderer get out

609
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 2>of Clayton, Idaho and to Texas, to Rising Star. It's

610
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of a cool name for a town, rising Star, Texas.

611
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 2>And he lives there for forty years. And some of

612
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the neighbors had lived by him for twenty five years

613
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>and said he was very low key, kind of reclusive,

614
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 2>never really spoke.

615
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Much, never really did the murderer, I don't know. So

616
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:09.079
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal with that story. I can see his

617
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>perspective because he's kind of getting beat up a little bit, right,

618
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>So he went over and got his gun. He's been drinking.

619
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

620
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Two things you don't you don't want to make guns

621
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and alcohol. But he's been drinking. He goes get some

622
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>guns and he's going to show these guys who just

623
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 1>humiliated and hurt him, what's up.

624
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

625
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's going to threaten them to be worse. They're

626
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>from Montana, Yeah, from old Montan. I'm just saying I

627
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>can understand how he's like I can understand his headspace.

628
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if he just got beat up, could have

629
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>been an accident.

630
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 1>And he went out and he went and got his

631
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>gun because he's going to show these boys don't f

632
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 1>with me. I live here, get out of my you know,

633
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>an old timey mining town that seems pretty typical. But

634
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>then he comes back and there's four people yep, instead

635
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of two because he got beat up by two people.

636
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, yeah, but he got beat up by two people.

637
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But the story goes that Walter was getting beat up

638
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and then Dan Wooley came out with bartender to pull

639
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>them on Tana boys off. Okay, So I don't know.

640
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's all kinds of stories that it was accidental,

641
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, that he accidentally shot in the face, you

642
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>know what to do. He ran away, which kind of

643
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it could be true. There are stories that

644
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.039
<v Speaker 2>they had come in and insulted a woman that was

645
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>either the bartender's wife or a girlfriend of somebody. I

646
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened, but anyway, there are all kinds

647
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 2>of Yeah.

648
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been to like big bars, like I've been to

649
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like little sports bars, but I've been to a couple

650
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of big bars. And I'd say like one out of

651
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 1>five of those bars there's been a fight. Yeah, And

652
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 1>so out of five times there's a fight. If he

653
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>goes down there every weekend for even a night, that's

654
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times he's going to be involved in

655
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>something in some way.

656
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

657
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a pretty bad situation, and especially at

658
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 1>the time.

659
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a lot of story about Walter Mason and

660
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 2>how he was raised, that he was orphaned at a

661
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 2>young age, that he had a really rough life, and

662
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>that he kind of got into scraps and fights and

663
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>he got into a rodeo, and that while he was

664
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>in rodeo, this mini Benyon, this mobster from well, I

665
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know where he was from, but he ended up

666
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. Walter Mason would be hired muscle for him.

667
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 2>So there was that backstory. There's also a very well

668
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 2>known story about Walter Mason that while he was in

669
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the rodeo circuit, got stomped on by a bronco and

670
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>it severely messed up his face. So he had a

671
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>very deformed face, so he was easily recognizable. That makes

672
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you wonder why nobody nobody noticed it. Yeah, it's really weird.

673
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a fantastic star and it's really really interesting. Yeah,

674
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're not doing it justice here. There's a

675
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of good information out there. People put some links

676
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.639
<v Speaker 2>on a website if people want to go and read

677
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>more about it. But yeah, he was finally caught. He

678
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>died before he could be prosecuted. But you know, I

679
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>believe that there's a divine answer to all this stuff,

680
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think people will get away from their

681
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, their injustices. So anyway, we'll leave her there.

682
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>This whole thing reminds me of something you even talked about,

683
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like divine intervention and spirits you talked about. The kid

684
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>had been in a motorcycle accident, got all burned up,

685
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere else.

686
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>If he would have been there, maybe he would.

687
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Have been killed.

688
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would have been bad. But then just the

689
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>idea of like doing something you know, reckless and getting

690
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>hurt really bad and Stanley iao makes me think of

691
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 1>an incident that happened in Stanley, Idaho.

692
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was not as tragic as the story we

693
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>just talked about.

694
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I think they're related. Actually, yeah they are,

695
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>because we were outside a bar near Stanley. If it

696
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>was dark, and there were definitely spirits.

697
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Involved casino club.

698
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>The casino club, And I'm going to defend myself a

699
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 1>little bit here. The gravel roads in Stanley are very

700
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>mush mushy.

701
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 2>What do they call it? Road chip? Rock chip?

702
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Now they call it mushy. And when you just decide

703
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.079
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to pretend to race a truck for

704
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>just two seconds, two in the morning, odds are your

705
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 1>face will hit the dirt is not going to turn

706
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 1>out way. And that is what happened to me. I

707
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>ended up leaving Stanley.

708
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Idoh.

709
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I went to like their little Quickcare clinic, which shout

710
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>out to the Stanley Quickcare Clinic. It sounds like and

711
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, but the information that I was

712
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>told is that lady kind of just started the clinic

713
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.119
<v Speaker 1>because of an incident that happened with her son, and

714
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 1>she opened it just to give people help in that area,

715
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 1>because you have to go pretty far to get to it, to.

716
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Me, unless they come in with a helicopter. I mean,

717
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>you're hours away from any serious so she's kind.

718
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Of the closest thing to any air. But they cleaned

719
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>me up pretty good, but I cleaned myself up pretty bad.

720
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, let's just say that Austin decided to race

721
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the truck for no good reason, face planted in a

722
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>pile of gravel and ended up with a severe road rash.

723
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's that was That was literally July, yeah, third,

724
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>three months ago, and I still have like a wound open.

725
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it on my knee and my foot.

726
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of messed up, and then he he

727
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>was so sorry could move. So we took him to

728
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the instacare place and they scrubbed it with wire brushes.

729
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 1>This is a horse brush to get where to get all.

730
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>The gravel out of your leg and stuff.

731
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, they described and paid off. It was fine.

732
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 2>You could have been messed up for a long time

733
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>if I think.

734
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I did break my left toe and I had to

735
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I borrowed some crutches. It was a bad deal. Yeah,

736
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 1>so spirits were involved. I'm just relating.

737
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Into a year store. Okay, okay, okay.

738
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 1>There was an incident outside of a bar in the

739
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>same geographical region. Yeah, near thirty miles of each other. Yeah, okay,

740
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>there were spirits involved.

741
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, leaving liquor.

742
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean he died and became a ghost, and I

743
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>drink okay.

744
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe different kinds of spirits, but kind of.

745
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 1>And then somebody bled a lot, maybe two people did. Yeah,

746
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's basically the same story as you told but mine.

747
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was one of the most memorable parts of

748
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>this July fifth, I was a face playing.

749
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much ruined my weekend. Yeah, my week Hey, so

750
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>just just to say three months.

751
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>If you're not I mean, if you're wearing thongs or

752
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, as the modern.

753
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>People's songs, they were not sandals, your flip flops. No,

754
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 1>they were choco sandals with the toe strap.

755
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

756
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>The problem wasn't the shoe, Yeah, it was the ground.

757
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It's the loose gravel.

758
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>So the problem was you decided, hey, I'm going to

759
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>raise a truck.

760
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't racing a truck. I was sarcastically racing a truck.

761
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 6>It was a big difference.

762
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you try to outrun a truck and you

763
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 2>face planned, that's trying to race a truck. I'm just no.

764
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I turned around, I took two steps and I face planted.

765
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 4>In the ground.

766
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>It like a medior in a movie.

767
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think any alcohol was involved.

768
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no. It was two in the morning. I

769
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>had been drinking water all day long.

770
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Any alcohol involved only helped prepare you to deal with

771
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>the pain. Yeah.

772
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Alcohol. The only reason I had alcohol was to help

773
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>me because I knew I was gonna fall, so I

774
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>thought I just cut the pain.

775
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

776
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it was a funny situation. But anyway, thus

777
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>ends are Stanley Trip, Stanley Trip instigation to yeah, Austin

778
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>healing up after his face playing.

779
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Eating total shit.

780
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>And we we find out about this murder, the sad

781
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 2>murder in Stanley, Idaho, and I understand that that Brett

782
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the son and his family still live in that region,

783
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, my heartbreaks for them. You know,

784
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 2>we kind of laugh because we're a podcast, but but

785
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>what a terrible scenario.

786
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nothing like me falling because I'm trying to

787
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 1>make my cousins laugh at a Fourth of July family

788
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>reunion in Stanley, Idaho. It's a little more serious than that.

789
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just a little bit. You know, we talked

790
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 2>about the tough life that we've had over the last

791
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 2>three years. A lot of people go through a lot worse,

792
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking about Brett and his family and this murder.

793
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of things in the news recently, that

794
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 2>are terrible this world. Man, if I didn't have some

795
00:41:56.159 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of faith, something other than what I see and hear,

796
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I would be a total mess. You know, life is

797
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 2>strange and there are so many crappy, crappy things going

798
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>on every world. I'm just pick up the newspaper or

799
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 2>or even better yet, just turn on your favorite news

800
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>source on your Facebook, and then people are so divided

801
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and it is very very awful if you can only

802
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>see that. And you know, for me, what saves me

803
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 2>is I do have a faith. And I'm not going

804
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to get preachy or anything. I'm just saying. Without that,

805
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 2>without something to give hope and purpose, what a dark

806
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>place this world would be.

807
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:45.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

808
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But along with that, this place is beautiful.

809
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

810
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It is so beautiful.

811
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you been to any cool like beautiful places lately?

812
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I have, Yes. I just got back from you Stone.

813
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what makes me think of Yellowstone every single time?

814
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 2>What?

815
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>There's two things, old faithful? No, no, no, okay, three things,

816
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>slow down? Two things okay. One it's called Yellowstone, right, yep?

817
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yellow is a color? Yeah?

818
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Number two Stone, old faithful what you already said, I said,

819
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But I know, I know but you weren't following my timeline. Okay, okay,

820
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>what's yellow and squirts water semi often? I gotta I

821
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta take a pee, my guy, let's take a break.

822
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Okay, all right.

823
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Well after that break break, Old Faithful was emptied.

824
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Nice.

825
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>You know one thing I learned while we were in Yellowstone.

826
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It's spontaneous.

827
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>No, they put a camera down Old faithfuls geyser. Yeah,

828
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>and do you know that the blowhole that's underneath the ground,

829
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.760
<v Speaker 2>it's only like twenty feet deep, is only four inches

830
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>in diameter four inches. Yeah, all that pressure comes out

831
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of four inches diameter. So that four inch diameter hole

832
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>that's down there twenty feet cold water comes into that

833
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the chasm that the cavern that's twenty feet below the surface,

834
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and everything chokes down through that four inch hole. Shut

835
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:55.039
<v Speaker 2>up on dirty mindy. So then things start warming up

836
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 2>underneath and it gets hotter enough, and the pressure build baby, Yeah,

837
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the pressure builds and.

838
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Builds until finally she's like, it reaches.

839
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 2>And then it shoots all that stuff up through the

840
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:19.000
<v Speaker 2>hole and that's where you get the giant er. Yeah,

841
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 2>it goes up.

842
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar, like hundred and some feet anyway, which is amazing.

843
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Why doesn't that hole get bigger after so much use, after.

844
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 8>After hundreds of years, Why is the blow bigger? I

845
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 8>don't know, But anyway, it was a great time. Yellowstone

846
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 8>was a really fun time. It sounds like we went there,

847
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 8>we saw that.

848
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 2>We went to uh uh, we went to gosh all

849
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the big sites, we saw the mud pots, we saw fumerals,

850
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 2>we saw bison, lots of Yeah. We had a really

851
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>cool video when we folded. When we first went into.

852
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>The park and we're driving towards our.

853
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 6>Campus spot, this big buffalo is like in the middle

854
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 6>of the road and we can't go around it because

855
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.000
<v Speaker 6>cars are coming the other way and they keep stopping

856
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 6>and taking pictures.

857
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 8>Out the window.

858
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm the motor home driving right behind this thing,

859
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 2>and seriously, it is walking right in front of us.

860
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>And the video yeah, yeah, it's a video, and it's like,

861
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's ball sacks just sleeping. We're like, what

862
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>do we do? What's the etiquette here?

863
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 4>We'll move.

864
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>So one of the highlights, at least for me, was

865
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>going to this old hotel. It was called the Lake

866
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yellowstone Hotel and dining room. I'm throw in the dining

867
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 2>room because the dining room is like this real fancy

868
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>place and we actually ate there and it costs like

869
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 2>two hundred bucks for me and your mom. Yeah, it

870
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>was a little pricey. Everything in Yellowstone is pricey.

871
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Inside the park, you know what comes cheap and quick though,

872
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>what bison balls? This is true, Yeah, or at least

873
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 1>they're a dozen at.

874
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 2>That time of year they are. Yeah. So anyway, we

875
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>go to this Lake Yellowstone hotel to eat. We had

876
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>reservations and we show up and we had a little

877
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 2>bit of time to kill and it's really neat because

878
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>they have the sun room and you can like go

879
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>in it's kind of a portico that sticks out towards

880
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the lake Yellowstone Lake, Yeah, and you can just sit

881
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>out there and it's all glass and you can just

882
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>look at the lake. It's very beautiful. And they have

883
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a piano player in there is playing a grand piano.

884
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>It's very classy. I don't know why we were there,

885
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, it was classy. And while we were burning

886
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 2>some time, I look over. They have a gift shop

887
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>and right by the gift shop is like this stand.

888
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 2>There was an easel and there's this painting that was

889
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>being created of the mountains, which is close to the Tetons,

890
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 2>and so it was the Teeton Mountains from a view

891
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 2>within side of the Yellowstone Park somewhere, and it was beautiful,

892
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 2>but the artist wasn't there, so I just kind of

893
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>looked at it for a second. Went inside the gift

894
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>shop and I bought a bottle of whiskey, which was

895
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>because it's one hundred and fiftieth year celebration for Yellowstone

896
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 2>International Park.

897
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>YaST I had their own whiskey.

898
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a bottle of whiskey branded that has

899
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty. After I drink it all, which

900
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 2>hopefully won't be too soon, I'm going to put it

901
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 2>in my Sasquatch Wine home perfect. Yeah it's cool. Yeah,

902
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I'll put a picture of that up on

903
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the website as well. So I was in there looking

904
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>at stuff, and while I was there, one of the

905
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 2>friends we were with came running out and go, hey, Mike, Mike, Mike, come,

906
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you got to meet this guy. You gotta meet this guy.

907
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, okay, and I figured it was the artist,

908
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and because I'm an artist, I thought maybe she had

909
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 2>gone and said, oh, you got to meet my friend

910
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the artist, and anyway, I followed my friend out. We

911
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 2>get out to this guy and he's a Native American.

912
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>He has a bandana around his head, long dark hair

913
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 2>with you know, he's probably a little older than me,

914
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 2>so it has some gray kind of straight ating through it,

915
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 2>but very classic looking Native American. A fellow, a very

916
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>handsome guy. Yeah, And so I'm like, Okay, this is

917
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be kind of awkward, but I'll do it

918
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 2>for my friend. And so I go up and my

919
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 2>friend goes, hey, look at his ear and I look

920
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and there is like a sad squatch ear ring hanging from.

921
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 1>His ear lobe.

922
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, well, that's kind of weird. She goes,

923
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 2>tell him what you told me, Tell him what you

924
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 2>told me. He has seen sasquatch And I'm like what

925
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and he goes. He goes, yeah, he goes, I'm a

926
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Jibway Indian and we have a long history of sasquatch

927
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 2>or Yeti, or as they call them, bugwaye j Anini.

928
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 2>I probably butchered that to my Native American friends.

929
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>If I did, I'm sorry.

930
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he.

931
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Had a name for it.

932
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:19.079
<v Speaker 2>They also call it messabe or Sabe or Chemo sabe well,

933
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and I think there's probably a connection there. Maybe it

934
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 2>means friend or brother, I'm not sure. But he talked

935
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about the Native American or at least

936
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 2>his tribe's culture and their interaction with big feet or Sasquatches.

937
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 2>What is the plural of Sasquatch.

938
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Sasquay, Sasquai.

939
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I talked to him for a bit. Very nice guy,

940
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and he is an incredible artist. His name is John Potter.

941
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>If you want to get online, look up John Potter,

942
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 2>artist and he'll come right up. And then I found

943
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 2>out later after we got home that I actually went

944
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 2>to the same art school at Utah State University and

945
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:00.599
<v Speaker 2>he studied illustration and design and I did as well, right,

946
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and so it's the same school, and it was really weird. Yes,

947
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool. So I stalked him a little bit

948
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 2>on the internet and found his web page in his

949
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Facebook page. But he's a full time artist. He he

950
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 2>just paints for a living and I envy that, yeah, right,

951
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 2>And he's really good and he has such a humble,

952
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 2>unique spirit. And when he talked about Sasquatch, he talked

953
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 2>about him that he is part of his tribe. He

954
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>is his brother interest and there's actually two tribes of

955
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatchasqua Sabis, Yeah, which is interesting. So I'm not going

956
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 2>to do realist and go down the Sasquatch hole.

957
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>No more mud ponds, no, no more mud butt.

958
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to throw that out there because it

959
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>was such a neat experience and I want to do

960
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe one, maybe a series on the Native American view

961
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 2>of Sasquatch. I think that's fascinating.

962
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably more authentic than Bubba Joe and his wife

963
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Trailer Parker. Yeah, didn't got took by them.

964
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, it throws in a whole different perspective. And I

965
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 2>know when we did our first Sasquatch in Bigfoot series,

966
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 2>we talked a little bit about the Watchers because they

967
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>were like giants and stuff and these cast out servants

968
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:18.239
<v Speaker 2>or sons of gods or little g gods, and that

969
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>they came to Earth and part of the Book of

970
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Enich is that they actually tried to help mankind by

971
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 2>giving them technology. And there's a lot of mythos around

972
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that and a lot of different cultures, and this sounded

973
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>what he was saying sounded so much like it, and

974
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>in fact, I asked him some questions and he said,

975
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, you should get this book. He says, there's

976
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 2>a tribal elder who wrote a book a few years ago,

977
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably ten fifteen years ago. And the

978
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>book is called the mushow Miss Book. And I'm probably

979
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>mispronouncing that again, miss show Miss. That's what it sounds like.

980
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 2>The voice of the Ajibwe, the voice of the Ajibwe.

981
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's a cool book. So I got to hear

982
00:52:58.159 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 2>in my hand.

983
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like a very simple art style, illustrated, almost

984
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 1>like a kid's book, it seems like.

985
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:09.039
<v Speaker 2>But it looks like it almost reads like a children's storybook,

986
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 2>but when you open it up, it's not.

987
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's more history, like a learning book for kids.

988
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all their kind of history and mythology. And

989
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's really neat. It's got tons of

990
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 2>illustrations and they're very simple line drawing illustrations. It's very nice.

991
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I picked that up. I got it on

992
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Amazon and it was only like fifteen bucks. Nice, and

993
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad because there are stories in here about

994
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch and YETI yeah.

995
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I saw the picture of the YETI his eyes are

996
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 1>like gleaming, yeah, right, and that's something you hear in

997
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch stories is how their eyes kind of glow.

998
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Turn red or whatever. And the other thing too, that's

999
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 2>really weird about it is they talk about him, is

1000
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>that he can phase in and out of our dimension,

1001
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 2>that he's not necessarily landlocked to our world, that he

1002
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 2>floats in between and through the brain of this dimension.

1003
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought that's really cool too. And this isn't old.

1004
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like something that's been around for fifty years.

1005
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 2>It's been around for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. And

1006
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 2>that really makes me think about it.

1007
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting.

1008
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So just a shout out to John Potter. You're

1009
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 2>an awesome guy. Yeah, there you go.

1010
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>One thing that's popped in my mind as we've been

1011
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about sasquatch and stuff, and after I saw that

1012
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>picture in that book is there's a Stephen King novel.

1013
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that I'm talking about Steven.

1014
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Man crush, Yeah, a little bit, but.

1015
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Bromance, my bromance, my bromance novel. He has a book

1016
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 1>called The Outsider. Yeah, and in that book, this entity

1017
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>is being can take the shape of anybody he comes

1018
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 1>in contact with, and he might have to have like

1019
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:55.159
<v Speaker 1>a sample of their blood to do that.

1020
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 4>But a.

1021
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Little girl has dreams about thisnster or actually sees it.

1022
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of fuzzy, but he has The girl describes

1023
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:09.159
<v Speaker 1>it as straws for eyes, Like his eyes are coming out.

1024
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Like a project out word, like a straw.

1025
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>And they're kind of like shiny and gleaming like coming

1026
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 1>out that comes out. Yeah, And he's a shape shifter,

1027
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.280
<v Speaker 1>which is something that's kind of Native American. And you

1028
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 1>keep getting the windygo and skin walkers and stuff. There's

1029
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like stuff with their eyes and how

1030
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>their eyes are different and they almost shine or they

1031
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>are glowing or they in this Stephen King novel, they portrude.

1032
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 1>They like are like I don't know. I just thought

1033
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:39.679
<v Speaker 1>that was interesting.

1034
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Almost like fat lasers coming out, sure, hollow fat lasers.

1035
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a really small little beam. It's a wide beam.

1036
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I picture like a smilering like, oh, like a tornado

1037
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of coming out like a straw. You know, they

1038
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 1>like the straws with the stripes. Anyway, we're digressing. I

1039
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 1>thought that was interesting the whole uhh, I don't know. Yeah,

1040
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>just popped in my head. I wonder if that has

1041
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>to do with Stephen King's research, and well, there are.

1042
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.360
<v Speaker 2>So many stories and mythologies and a lot of the

1043
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>descriptions of those creatures and characters have those kind of

1044
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.320
<v Speaker 2>eyes that are so bright they actually if you'll look

1045
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 2>in their eyes, it'll burn you or kill.

1046
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 1>You, yeah, or blind you, blind you, or feel you

1047
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>full of dread. You hear a lot. Yeah, interesting, it's

1048
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny talking about the Native American history. And

1049
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>then also like the mimicking or like the shape shifting portion,

1050
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 1>because we just finished up or we were able to

1051
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>go on our Massacre Rocks water Babies investigation. Finally we

1052
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>even did an IDL yeah, which was so awful.

1053
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 2>We got to put that up uncut. We'll put it

1054
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.639
<v Speaker 2>up because we suck at this. Yeah, and I flashed

1055
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody and we.

1056
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Didn't mean to know, I don't know, we haven't been

1057
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>doing any of our investigations. And then we go to

1058
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 1>this place as kind of a last minute deal and

1059
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>then we Yeah, it was hilarious, and we were freaking

1060
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:01.880
<v Speaker 1>out out because there's bugs everywhere.

1061
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, we're being attacked by all kinds of insects, spiders.

1062
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Were everywhere, and I grabbed a black widow and I

1063
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>tried to burn it.

1064
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which was under the table, so we're like creeped out. Anyway,

1065
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it was a I don't know, but it was fun.

1066
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.119
<v Speaker 2>It was and it's a beautiful place. We went along

1067
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 2>the Snake River to Massacre Rocks. Yeah. So what is

1068
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Masker Rocks.

1069
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>It is a place, a geographical oddity on the Oregon Trail.

1070
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1071
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was on the Orgon Trail.

1072
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Where basically there's just these this kind of the way

1073
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the valley and everything comes together. It's a very narrow.

1074
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Pass right between rocks.

1075
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 1>There's not a whole lot, but it is a bottleneck

1076
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 1>in the path, so you don't have a lot of

1077
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>vision around you, you know.

1078
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.320
<v Speaker 2>And people could be hiding on the other side of.

1079
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>That narrow there's potential for a ambush massacre. And that's

1080
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of where it gets its name. Right.

1081
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was you know, like an altercation between white

1082
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.880
<v Speaker 2>men and the Native Americans. But anyway, uh, people died.

1083
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like a massacre, though. It got written up

1084
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in newspapers and stuff and the name stuck. Yeah, it

1085
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 2>was kind of cool. That's the history, but hey, we

1086
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 2>really weren't going there for the history of massacre rocks.

1087
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:18.599
<v Speaker 2>We went there because it's also one of the reputed

1088
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 2>locations of this strange phenomena of Native American Indian lore

1089
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of water babies, Right, what water babies.

1090
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we talked about it before, but they might not

1091
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 1>have and we did our silly little skit where I

1092
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:32.480
<v Speaker 1>was making all the sound effects.

1093
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 2>But they might not have heard that episode.

1094
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Ye, So water babies and this kind of ties into

1095
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.519
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about with Stephen King and the

1096
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 1>shape shifting thing. Are these supposed creatures that live in

1097
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the water and they might be the spirits of children

1098
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.639
<v Speaker 1>that have been drowned, or maybe demons or you know whatever.

1099
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But they used the sound of crying children and mimicry

1100
00:58:56.719 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>to lure people into the water at night to.

1101
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Take them, drown them, eat them whatever. Yeah.

1102
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.159
<v Speaker 1>They kind of remind me of the Black Eyed Children

1103
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yeah, where they come to your door

1104
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.119
<v Speaker 1>and they have their voice and they're like it's so cold,

1105
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 1>and they're like wearing like weird outfits and things are wrong.

1106
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, the water babies are similar to that,

1107
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're trying to lure you out into the water

1108
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>at right.

1109
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Which so the story of that location, which fits with

1110
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.679
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, is that there was a very cold

1111
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 2>winter and the Indian tribe that was there did not

1112
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 2>have food to feed their infants, and they knew they

1113
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 2>were going to die a slow, cold death, so instead

1114
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.559
<v Speaker 2>of watching them suffer and die, they took their children

1115
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 2>down and threw them into the river to basically put

1116
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 2>them out of their misery, or if you don't want

1117
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:51.559
<v Speaker 2>to say that they were being somehow kind of merciful,

1118
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>then they basically were looking out for themselves and decided, oh.

1119
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:57.840
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to feed you don't want these burdens,

1120
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.039
<v Speaker 1>get rid of them, which is the other one. I

1121
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't like either of them.

1122
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:03.519
<v Speaker 2>But so anyway, they went down the cast them in,

1123
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and then the spirits, in retribution for casting away their offspring,

1124
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.400
<v Speaker 2>saved them and gave them the ability to either live

1125
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 2>underwater through growing gills, or they became kind of a

1126
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 2>spirit type being and they became water babies. And the

1127
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>water babies were angry and they lived to basically seek

1128
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:31.519
<v Speaker 2>retribution against the people that killed them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1129
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's that's the that's the scope of the story,

1130
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the legend and so and like you'd said in previous episodes,

1131
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 2>what a great way to keep your kids from going

1132
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 2>wandering down by the water.

1133
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Then there's these monsters that will keep you no matter

1134
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what you hear, don't go.

1135
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.400
<v Speaker 2>By the water because the Snake River, especially in that area,

1136
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.280
<v Speaker 2>is deep and wide and fast.

1137
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:56.159
<v Speaker 1>In a lot of areas, there's like undertoes like crazy, yeah,

1138
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>because it is so narrow and deep.

1139
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 2>A lot of underground water passages that that flow through,

1140
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 2>because I mean, the whole thing is a volcanic area,

1141
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and so water moves weird underneath the surface, and so

1142
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe they developed it for that reason, or

1143
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's some kind of weird spiritual thing that happens

1144
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.800
<v Speaker 2>there or transdimensional thing. I mean, it's not the only

1145
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 2>legend that people have about things in water calling them

1146
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to their deaths.

1147
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 5>Sirens sirens, yeah, brother, Oh that's not that one.

1148
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 9>It's ye go to sleep, little baby.

1149
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah something. We're horrible.

1150
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, by the way, I love that. It's amazing.

1151
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 1>The music is great. They've got like that Oh yeah,

1152
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that one means and then aham or that's a good one.

1153
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That movie is awesome.

1154
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I can relate to that song.

1155
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm the new Damn par Familias.

1156
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm here Papa familius.

1157
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Damn spot Ye that movies.

1158
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm a tapper, damn man, I'm a tepper day.

1159
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't want fun. God, damn it. I'm a dipper

1160
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:27.440
<v Speaker 1>dand kind of man.

1161
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Ye.

1162
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, if you haven't seen it, go watch it. If

1163
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:33.199
<v Speaker 1>you have seen it, watch it again.

1164
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to water babies.

1165
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 1>George is gonna send us million dollars for that.

1166
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I think. I don't think so, but okay, So back

1167
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to water babies. The strange thing about all of these

1168
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 2>legends of people being let off in water to their death.

1169
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:50.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, there might be something there. There might be

1170
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:55.960
<v Speaker 2>some kind of demonic or spiritual or I don't know

1171
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 2>what you want to call it, thing that is bent

1172
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>on destroying humanity and people children there is for sure.

1173
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 2>So anything that they can do to lure people off

1174
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.440
<v Speaker 2>to water and drown them.

1175
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I think too of how desperate people have been in

1176
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the past, and how much sound there is in the water.

1177
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So people you know, coming from the east going west,

1178
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 1>or even Native American tribes suffering a long, hard, cold

1179
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 1>winter that they weren't expecting or weren't able to plan

1180
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 1>for because of white men coming across. You know, they're desperate,

1181
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 1>they're they're living not calorically well. They're not eating enough,

1182
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 1>they're not drinking enough, they're too cold, they're freezing. You know,

1183
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.760
<v Speaker 1>all these problems in their lives. And then you're down

1184
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.159
<v Speaker 1>by the water and you can hear you know, like

1185
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a sand hill crane or the water just makes noise

1186
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 1>so many gargling animal, bubbling, crying sounds. There's like a

1187
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 1>waterfall is if you've by a big waterfall, it's almost

1188
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming the sound. So there's so much noise you can

1189
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 1>get from the water.

1190
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:09.519
<v Speaker 2>We'll blend that with coyotes. Yeah, and coyotes will sound

1191
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:10.599
<v Speaker 2>like kids.

1192
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Screaming sometimes Yeah it's kind of creepy. Or a mountain

1193
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 1>lion or yeah.

1194
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you could pick a bunch of different things.

1195
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And some of the birds make the weirdest noises.

1196
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cranes are weird, and frogs there weird.

1197
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we need to talk much more

1198
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 2>about water babies because either you know that I want

1199
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 2>to save that, maybe because we'll tie that back into

1200
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 2>the Native American legends. Because there's so many.

1201
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It'd be nice to get some good stories of people

1202
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 1>who have had those issues. We just haven't been able

1203
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to do the research to get good stories because they're

1204
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.559
<v Speaker 1>not that many. There's no ancient Native American type stories. Yeah,

1205
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.039
<v Speaker 1>there's like a lot of yeah, legend, but there's not

1206
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like yeah, like Chris and her girlfriend

1207
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 1>were out there and they had their toddler and the

1208
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 1>toddler went by the water and so they couldn't find it. Yeah,

1209
01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:59.719
<v Speaker 1>there's none of that stories. It's all just very old

1210
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 1>oral traditions and type stories.

1211
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, but we did go down so get online

1212
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.119
<v Speaker 2>check out our video. Anyway, we talked about some cool

1213
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff today, So I think we got an episode here

1214
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and at least we've kind of got back into the

1215
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 2>shwang a little bit of things.

1216
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I do like how we went down there. Yeah, we

1217
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:21.079
<v Speaker 1>were out your side by side.

1218
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you have a.

1219
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Sweet hont of talent.

1220
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Now sucker clams like our goat.

1221
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it does. But we we went into this cool

1222
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 1>little cabin. We were into the cabin there, which we've

1223
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:33.159
<v Speaker 1>never done. I don't think in my.

1224
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Entire we couldn't take the best cabin.

1225
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was, Yeah, but we pulled up.

1226
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:40.840
<v Speaker 1>They had like a little fire pit, a table that

1227
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 1>was infested with black little spiders, and then the cabin

1228
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was I mean just a futon and a bunk bed

1229
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and they had a refrigerator which was cool, yeah, and

1230
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a window ac unit so.

1231
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It was actually bougie.

1232
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was actually pretty good. But we went down

1233
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to walk to the water, and this is crazy. I've

1234
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 1>never seen this before.

1235
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, either this is a strange time we can

1236
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 2>do an episode or not. Just this.

1237
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 1>We're walking down there and the way down to the

1238
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 1>water wasn't bad.

1239
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I saw a cactus and there's wide paths to

1240
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 2>walk on with weeds on sticking up on the side.

1241
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So we go down to the water and as soon

1242
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:16.880
<v Speaker 1>as we get to the water, I saw a hornet

1243
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that was the side of the baseball and that freaked

1244
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.639
<v Speaker 1>me out a little bit. And then there's like this

1245
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.079
<v Speaker 1>big rock cliff on our right, and then the rivers

1246
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 1>down on our left, and there's cattail type reed plants

1247
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 1>all around us.

1248
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll see in the drone footage.

1249
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.199
<v Speaker 1>They'll go to the website. But as soon as we

1250
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.880
<v Speaker 1>turn around to walk back, every path was covered by

1251
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a spider web Yeah, they were like a garden or

1252
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 1>orb spider, I don't remember what they're called.

1253
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:48.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like they went from one side of the path

1254
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:51.360
<v Speaker 2>to the other ends built a big complex web.

1255
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Between cross all over the plan and it was like

1256
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 1>they waited for us to go to the water and

1257
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 1>try to come back because we couldn't walk anywhere without

1258
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>And they were hugs themselves were still the size of

1259
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the spiders they were either they were massive that that

1260
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.880
<v Speaker 1>freaked me out that it was much more terrifying than

1261
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 1>water baby thoughts.

1262
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 2>For sure. I felt like I had spiders crawling on

1263
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 2>me all night.

1264
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 1>And then their webs were so sticky, tough and sticky

1265
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 1>like like we ended up kind of like getting stakes

1266
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.159
<v Speaker 1>or like pushing them down with our feet and then

1267
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the spider would run away. It wasn't a big deal,

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01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.079
<v Speaker 1>but the web would just stick to your shoes, stuck

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01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on your arms, your clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so many it's weird. I was having dreams

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01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:32.039
<v Speaker 2>of she lob around the.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible filter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was like. I mean they were big.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say they were bigger, probably fifty cent piece size.

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<v Speaker 2>They were huge, yep, And they were like all over

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01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:50.000
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like just one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there were thousands. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nuts. And they were down by the down

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01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 2>by you know where we took the little video. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like in the bushes on the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>It was weird because I didn't see a single one

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01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 1>on the way down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why the next day when we went

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01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 2>on the side by side drive, but we were all

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01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 2>creeped out up into the south hills. We had insect paranoia, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we did. And then the insects attacked us in our side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were in the side by side And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the first big one that I mean other than

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01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.479
<v Speaker 1>like get the you know, like shake your arm because

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01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.479
<v Speaker 1>but the first one where I like jumped and kind

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01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of like had like a little thing giangrass, there was

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01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a big grasshopper and it had gone up my shorts

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01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think it got lost in my shorts because

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01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just started like jumping and it felt like somebody

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01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 1>was like in my pants, just like flicking me over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>So I picked up my pants and.

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<v Speaker 2>Inctly, then you knock it on the floor, then smash

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<v Speaker 2>it in the floor of the side by side.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the side by side was so clean, Well it

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01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:55.239
<v Speaker 1>was dirty, have bug guts all over it. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we switched places maybe two minutes after that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm right, you're drive driving and you're riding

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01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and you freak.

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<v Speaker 2>Out because well, what was on my leg was much

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01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:09.079
<v Speaker 2>more terrifying than a grasshopper, because when you see a grasshopper,

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01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>you go, oh, it's a grasshopper. They're creepy there, they

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01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:11.800
<v Speaker 2>stick to.

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<v Speaker 4>You, weird, you know.

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01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't like grasshoppers on me. But anyway, it's a grasshopper.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was this big, huge, black, long beetle on

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01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 2>my leg and it had this giant red head. I

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01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:24.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that thing.

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01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a bug like that before.

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01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Notice I didn't panic, Yeah you did.

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01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 1>You went He's like freaked out. And I slowed way

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01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 1>down because I I was going on.

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01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 2>And then I opened the door right and I knocked

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01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it out. Yeah, knocked out the door. And then then

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01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.720
<v Speaker 2>we got into the bees. The wasps were everywhere we

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01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:43.159
<v Speaker 2>pulled up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those were hornets. But we pulled off to

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01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 1>like a little area to overlook and have a couple

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01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of beers. And hang out and look at like the

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01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:54.199
<v Speaker 1>cool valley and it was really cool. But after two

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01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.600
<v Speaker 1>seconds of being there, it's like, what the It's like

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01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 1>there's like hornets.

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01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think we must have parked on it underground the.

1330
01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Hole because everywhere everywhere. And then we're driving off and

1331
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, go, go go, and you're like, you know,

1332
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 1>there's one on me and I flick it. It hits

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01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:12.239
<v Speaker 1>me and it goes back behind my seat and I'm like,

1334
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pull over because now if I lean back,

1335
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get stun So I hop out and kind

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01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:20.039
<v Speaker 1>of brush the be out of there. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were all messed up.

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01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That was Yeah, we did have a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun. It was fun. Well, gosh, I don't know, man,

1340
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.760
<v Speaker 2>we've been talking a long time. There we have and

1341
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you got to go somewhere.

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01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta go eat some borders.

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01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm hoping that our next episode will be much

1344
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 2>sooner than this one was.

1345
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And have a better topic and more concise roadmap.

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01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we got ideas on things we

1347
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 2>want to do and so we'll just go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy, we should say really quick.

1349
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<v Speaker 2>If you are a social media person or a social

1350
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 2>networking person. Get on Facebook and like us, follow our

1351
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 2>We have both a group and our podcast page and

1352
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a group page where you can just post weird stuff

1353
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 2>that you run into. Like us on Instagrams, the Google Facebook. Yeah,

1354
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:08.840
<v Speaker 2>we've got things like that going on. We're really lame

1355
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and haven't done much. We've got a website that's kind

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01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 2>of sitting there in everlasting stasis.

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01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tagging it. Also, go to your streaming app and iTunes, yeah, Spotify,

1359
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and just ignore the fact that we haven't been putting

1360
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 1>out that many episodes. We've been busy and people been

1361
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:28.880
<v Speaker 1>dying and yeah, so deal with it. But we do

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01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.520
<v Speaker 1>want to come up with some more stuff, yep. And

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01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 1>we want to make a more We say this every time,

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01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 1>but we want a little bit more reliable content schedule

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01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.119
<v Speaker 1>for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we'll get there, and we'll be able to get

1367
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>there faster if you like us and share and rate

1368
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:46.199
<v Speaker 2>us on your favorite listening app.

1369
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Every time we see like a like, or a new

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01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>subscriber or a jumping downloads, we get motivated to do more.

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01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Totally motivated, so you forget about all the yuck and

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01:11:57.680 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you think, oh, this is awesome.

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01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a worthless I have a good dad because

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01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I got likes on Facebook.

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01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I got a like with my son on Facebook.

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01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Ye all right, Well, get us out of here, all right, Guys,

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01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:12.960
<v Speaker 1>join us next time, which hopefully will be a lot

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01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.600
<v Speaker 1>sooner than last time. Yes, we hope for some cold

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01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 1>drinks and some storine. Your conversation