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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh five, the fifty five KRCD talk station. A

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<v Speaker 1>very happy Friday to you, made extra special right now

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm happy to welcome back. You may remember him

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<v Speaker 1>as the mayor of the City of Cincinnati. You may

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<v Speaker 1>remember as the Ohio State Treasurer or perhaps Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State of Ohio. Also, you may know him as the politician, author,

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<v Speaker 1>and conservative activist he is. You know I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Blackwell, welcome back to the morning show, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Always enjoy our conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Brian, Good to hear your voice, Good to

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<v Speaker 2>be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, you know where you're drawing your support is

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<v Speaker 1>usually illustrative of who's behind something or whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you should vote for it. It's like the company you keep.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be reflective of one personality. There is not

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<v Speaker 1>a single conservative outlet or well, I know there are

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<v Speaker 1>foreign billionaires, no conservative outlet. It's all left wing organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>groups and foreign billionaire that hands George Week's guy, who

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<v Speaker 1>are the money behind issue Vote yes on Issue one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to change the gerrymandering rules and just

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<v Speaker 1>merely codified and hand it off to a so called

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<v Speaker 1>independent panel of folks that is established by this alchemy process.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can refer to alchemy.

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<v Speaker 2>You've read it. Look, this is the most non transparent

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<v Speaker 2>initiatives that I've seen in a very long time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>requiring up to fifty seven extraordinary complex steps to make

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<v Speaker 2>a new electoral map. And what kids meet, Brian, is

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<v Speaker 2>that this plan requires adding sixteen thousand, six hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty three words or sixteen pages of small type to

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<v Speaker 2>the Ohau Constitution buyers feed way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mind, this is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Paragraph like I haven't seen in a long time. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know that chrisscrossed this country, actually chriscross the globe

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<v Speaker 2>looking at election issues, and I will tell you this

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<v Speaker 2>is a humdinger and it must be defeated well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting, isn't it, Ken black Well, that they're

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<v Speaker 1>launching this effort and throwing these literally countless millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to convince people to have yes on it, because

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<v Speaker 1>oh I always now a red state. It's no longer purple,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not blue. They need to They can't get their

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<v Speaker 1>foot in the door in campaigning or on issues. So

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<v Speaker 1>how they're gonna do it. They're gonna read, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>gerryman themselves into positions of power.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Issue one creates an unelected, unaccountable commission to

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<v Speaker 2>redraw the state's maps to favorite Democrats. Pure and simple,

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<v Speaker 2>this could decide which party control those Congress, letting Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>push their liberals and or even impeached Donald Trump if

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<v Speaker 2>Americans re re electing this November. Yeah, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fueled. This is funded by out of state

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<v Speaker 2>dark money groups that are pushing this radical change in

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<v Speaker 2>how districts are drawn in the in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio, and just not only effects the US

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<v Speaker 2>House seats, this would in fact state legislature, our Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>state legislature seats. And so when you look at a

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<v Speaker 2>group like this sixteen thirty fund that has already pulled

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<v Speaker 2>more than twenty million dollars in foreign tied cash into

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio and over six point six million for Issue one alone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that if, in fact it walks like a duck,

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<v Speaker 2>talks like a quacks like a duck, it is a dug.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wish we didn't have the SEC staring us

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<v Speaker 1>down our faces here and kind of we could use

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<v Speaker 1>more a more specific terminology for that one. The National

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<v Speaker 1>Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what connection they have with Ohio jerrymandering, but those

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<v Speaker 1>two organizations through a million and a half dollars at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, And before I forget it, if folks

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<v Speaker 2>want to listeners want to know more about this, go

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<v Speaker 2>to stop Issue one. And that's not the that's the

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<v Speaker 2>numeral one. Stop issue one dot com. It is so

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<v Speaker 2>important that we in fact get folks out to the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as in the other the presidential election, we want

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<v Speaker 2>that folk margin to be big to rig. We in

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<v Speaker 2>fact need to stop this bad initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't there one point in the process a senior recall

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<v Speaker 1>where basically you're just pulling names out of a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm just going to tell you I've seen I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of political trickery in all of my

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six years. But let me tell you this again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so non transparent, so confiluted, so almost just

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<v Speaker 2>playing stupid, But it is in fact they are dead

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<v Speaker 2>serious in trying to pull the world over old House.

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<v Speaker 1>Voter's eyes well, and the other component of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>really what offends me the most. I mean, people might claim, oh, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can vote people out of office, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>to wait a couple of years for that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>comment's always end up getting re elected anyway. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, it's our fault. But there's a form of

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<v Speaker 1>accountability when you have an election. My understanding is that

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<v Speaker 1>no citizen of the state of Ohio can contest the

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<v Speaker 1>whatever redrawing, whatever legislative map that this committee comes out with.

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<v Speaker 1>The zero accountability, you can't go to court. At least

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<v Speaker 1>some of the current system. Yes, they have been challenged

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<v Speaker 1>in court. Yes, redistriction has been found to be unlawful

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of different reasons. They go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the drawing board and they come up with a new

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<v Speaker 1>one and that gets challenging Courdant's either approved or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least there is a form of accountability. We

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing here, do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't. And it's always been confusing to me

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<v Speaker 2>how people actually want to take politics out of politics.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way that you can put together a commission

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<v Speaker 2>and then insulated, isolated, protected from accountability, and think that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a group of politicians actually haven't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>concocted this, you know, And so what we have now

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<v Speaker 2>and you just mentioned it. You know, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>system that voters put in place and that voters can

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<v Speaker 2>use to hold elected officials accountable, period, and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to change it. You know, you talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>empowering the administrative state. This is that notion on steroids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this would completely radicalize and oretically change the old how

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<v Speaker 2>political governing model without the input of accountable citizens and

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<v Speaker 2>elected officials. And it's just plain dangerous it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the point of it. I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 1>summed up the reason they want it passed. It's absolutely shame.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have to go out and vote no on

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<v Speaker 2>Issue one and protect our state and our elections from

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<v Speaker 2>foreign billionaires and their liberal cronies in Columbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen to that Stop Issue one, the number one stop

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<v Speaker 1>issue one dot com. You get all the reasons. Why.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, And I'm not suggesting Ken

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<v Speaker 1>blackwhether you can climb into her head and know what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell she's doing. But former House Supreme Court, just

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<v Speaker 1>as Maren O'Connor came out and said vote yes on

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<v Speaker 1>Issue one, any idea what's going through her mind or

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<v Speaker 1>is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a you know, I just think she has a

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<v Speaker 2>bone to pick and Marin is a friend, but on

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<v Speaker 2>this one we are bumping heads and it's just a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea, bad idea. If you need any convincing just look

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<v Speaker 1>at the list of supporters. It's page after page after

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<v Speaker 1>page of every left wing organization you can come up with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then again fundamentally to the point, what does a

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<v Speaker 1>Swiss multi billionaire who funds progressive left wing causes around

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<v Speaker 1>the globe have to do with the state of Ohio?

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<v Speaker 1>And why is he willing to commit twenty five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to this effort? That's crazy right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. You know, commissioners appointed by judges and

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<v Speaker 2>which have been aided and abitted by a private hiring firm,

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<v Speaker 2>and this amendment gives the commission a constitutionally guaranteed blank

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<v Speaker 2>check for any legal expense, without legislative oversight and no accountability. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really bad, point after point after point after point.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus you know, a law degree, seven years of

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<v Speaker 1>college and a law degree plus fifty nine years of

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<v Speaker 1>existence on the planet still don't really quite get it

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<v Speaker 1>as I've read through it, Ken, it is a monumental.

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<v Speaker 2>Mess to get out and vote no get out quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Ken Blackwell for speaking succinctly on the issue

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<v Speaker 1>stop Issue one dot com. Ken, I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>our next conversation. You keep up the great work, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you, brother, take care, Love you too, Man seven

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<v Speaker 1>a man like Ken Blackwell could be the mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati. Ah, happier times. Chimneycare Fireplace and Stow,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an attorney with wood and lamping after