1 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:19,879 --> 00:00:23,359 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:28,039 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:31,600 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,159 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,520 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:43,320 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:48,600 Our guest today is Representative Rick Crawford, Republican, Arkansas, chairman 9 00:00:49,119 --> 00:00:53,359 of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. The committee 10 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:59,679 has recently the committee's recently declassified twenty twenty report has 11 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:05,000 helped exposed the manufactured intelligence behind the twenty seventeen intelligence 12 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:11,120 community assessment that led to the Russia collusion hoax. Congressman, 13 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:13,040 thank you so much for joining us on this edition 14 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:14,280 at the Federalist Radio Hour. 15 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely glad to do it. 16 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,879 Speaker 1: Well. You've been on this committee for several years. You 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,840 became chairman of this committee in twenty twenty five. Take 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,760 us back to twenty twenty because this is the word. 19 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:30,480 This is why the word bombshell as it relates to 20 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:36,599 just very significant news, very impactful news. Was created. 21 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, this goes back to twenty seventeen, and I even 22 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:44,599 have to go back just a little bit before then, 23 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:48,879 after the election of twenty sixteen and before the inauguration 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,680 of President Trump in his first term. 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,599 Speaker 2: That's when this began. 26 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:57,719 Speaker 3: So before I joined the committee that was I joined 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,239 in January of twenty seventeen. HIPSY had received a brief 28 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:08,439 in December of twenty sixteen regarding this information, and I 29 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,639 think the first person that sort of raised an eyebrow 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,759 was Chairman Devin Nuness, and he said, something doesn't smell 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,680 right here, and he did a little digging and found 32 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:23,759 that this just didn't add up. What they were suggesting 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,159 didn't make sense. And after the ICA came out, and 34 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:34,680 I believe it actually was briefed on January sixth of 35 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:40,280 twenty seventeen, that's when he initiated an investigation for HIPSY 36 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,840 to go and review those documents and be able to 37 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:48,039 make a determination on how they arrived at their view 38 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,599 that there was collusion between Russia and Donald Trump, and 39 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,800 of course there was no evidence to support that. And 40 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,560 that goes back, as I said, to twenty seventeen. There 41 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:04,599 were it was about a year long effort. One, it 42 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,719 was complete. We all had access to it. Those of 43 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,639 us on HIPSY had access to it. I think most 44 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,319 of us that were on the committee went over and 45 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,719 read it. It was difficult to read because of the circumstances. 46 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,159 Number one, it was being held in a CAA reading room, 47 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,759 secure location, and they would give you a limited time 48 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,719 to review the documents and kind of look over your 49 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:33,199 shoulder while you're sitting there reading the documents. If you've 50 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:37,000 read the unclassified version, you know it's fairly extensive. But 51 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,280 what made it even more difficult to read was the 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,039 number of footnotes and source material that was necessary to 53 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:50,719 to really undergird the assertions and conclusions on the report. 54 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,560 So it's three hundred and thirty odd footnotes in addition 55 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:58,120 to the I don't know seventy pages of their findings, 56 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,919 and so it was a fairly difficult read. 57 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,199 Speaker 2: And that was I think when I first read it 58 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,080 was in twenty eighteen. 59 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: Since then, we've been trying to get that document released 60 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,919 back to HIPSY. Chairman Nunez made an effort to get 61 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,319 it done, couldn't get it done. Chairman Turner made an 62 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:18,759 effort to get it done and also was unsuccessful, and 63 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,240 it wasn't until just this year, with the assistance of 64 00:04:22,319 --> 00:04:24,720 President Trump, that we were able to actually get the 65 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:28,600 document return to us, our rightful document. It was a 66 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,959 finally returned to us, and it's out there now. After 67 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,720 a classification review by the d and I and her team, 68 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,160 they released it publicly and it's out there for the 69 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,439 entire country to see. 70 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,959 Speaker 1: Indeed, and what we have seen is breathtaking. And this 71 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,800 is the biggest scandal, certainly of our lifetime, and one 72 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,439 of the biggest scandals that we have seen in this 73 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,360 country in the federal government in the history of this 74 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,360 great Republic. I'm just I'm curious what you thought when 75 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,759 you were starting to see these documents, and why do 76 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:11,480 you think the intelligence community and the Biden administration we're 77 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:17,439 so committed to keeping this sealed, to keeping this classified. 78 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:21,399 Speaker 3: Well, because it basically indicts the intelligence community. One of 79 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:23,040 the things that I have noted over the years of 80 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,680 serving on the committee, and I have. 81 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,319 Speaker 2: Observed this in various efforts. 82 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: One was last Congress, I undertook an investigation in anomalous 83 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,399 health incidents or what we attribute to what we commonly 84 00:05:41,439 --> 00:05:47,199 called Havana syndrome, and we were engaged in an investigation 85 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:53,519 and there was an ICA associated with his and we 86 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,639 saw the same type of deal where they say, here 87 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,519 is the in state, this is what we want to 88 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,240 tell people. Now you analysts go out there and put 89 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,759 together the analysis that supports our narrative instead of the opposite. 90 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Same thing with COVID origins, we saw that that was 91 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,279 the case there, where they decide, here's what we want 92 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:16,480 people to think, and analysts go out there and support 93 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,879 our narratives, come up with the information that supports what 94 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:22,399 we want to share with the American public. 95 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: Those are two fairly recent. 96 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: Fairly high profile examples, but they pale in comparison to 97 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:34,879 this Russia collusion ICA that was authorized by President Obama, 98 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,399 that was undertaken implemented by his IC team, that is 99 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:49,639 CIO Director Brennan, Dni Clapper and FBI Director Comy and 100 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,079 so they under their direction, they had a group of 101 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,399 analysts that put this together. Now we know that there 102 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:58,319 were five analysts that worked on this. This was sort 103 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:04,360 of a cobbled together Frankenstein like report that supported a 104 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:09,079 political narrative that they wanted told. And central to this 105 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:14,639 was the Steele dossier. Now they knew that the dossier 106 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:19,439 was discredited, and yet with the what pushback they did get, 107 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,680 and there was I will say, in fairness, there may 108 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 have been one or two people said, now this doesn't 109 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,639 seem right. We probably shouldn't do this because Steele dossier 110 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:37,399 was surely discredited, and they said, well, Director Brandan said, 111 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:42,839 well it rings true. Well if it rings true, then 112 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:44,800 we're going to use it. It didn't matter if it 113 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:48,079 was true. As far as he was concerned, it rang true. 114 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,560 So therefore it was going to be central to their assessment. 115 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: And that's part of the problem. 116 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,759 Speaker 3: The other thing was the analytic integrity was lacking completely. 117 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,879 Speaker 2: And what I would like for people to know. 118 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: Is that the intelligence community has a series of directives 119 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:09,639 that govern the conduct of people who work in the 120 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,000 IC and one of those is ic D IC. 121 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: Directive two three. 122 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,879 Speaker 3: This is the governing document for analytic trade craft. 123 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,959 Speaker 2: And you forgive me for being course. 124 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,639 Speaker 3: But these analysts, for lack of a better term, crapt 125 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 all over ic D two three. They did not follow 126 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:36,559 it in the slightest. It was ignored, and they went 127 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:40,720 forward with their own narrative that was done simply to 128 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,159 discredit President Trump and to spin a. 129 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,519 Speaker 2: Narrative that was false, and that was that he was. 130 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: Involved with Vladimir Putin in helping to change the outcome 131 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,200 of the election. 132 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,919 Speaker 2: Now, the other interesting thing is. 133 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:01,519 Speaker 3: If, first off, there was no evia to that end, 134 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:05,279 there was no evidence to support that Trump was involved 135 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:08,679 with Putin in any way, shape or form, and they 136 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:13,679 again relying exclusively on the Steele dossier, but there was 137 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:19,080 evidence to support the reverse, in fact that if anything, 138 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:27,240 Vladimir Putin had derogatory information on Hillary Clinton and he 139 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:33,360 chose to withhold it because he, like everybody else, expected 140 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,720 Hillary Clinton to win. 141 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: Therefore, he withheld the information. 142 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: That he had and chose to use it on the 143 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,519 other side of election so he could manipulate her, viewed 144 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:49,960 her as a soft target and easily manipulated based on 145 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,159 the d rog that he had on her. And if 146 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,600 in fact there was collusion there, if in fact there 147 00:09:55,759 --> 00:10:00,240 was a favorite outcome that Putin wanted to see a 148 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,799 president Trump, doesn't it make sense that he would have 149 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,159 used that d rog that he had on Hillary to 150 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:10,120 help affect the outcome of the election, And in fact 151 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:15,960 he didn't, and the evidence proves that. So what we 152 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,799 see here is a fraud, a hoax perpetrated on the 153 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:25,320 American people at the expense of President Trump. And this 154 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,279 was nothing more than a psyop, a psychological operation against 155 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:37,519 the American people, really under the direction of President Obama, 156 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:42,480 conducted by his ic leadership team. 157 00:10:42,759 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: It is again, I think the only word is breathtaking, 158 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:50,879 just what was happening behind the scenes. And this report 159 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,960 from the Intelligence Committee in twenty twenty confirms, you know, 160 00:10:55,039 --> 00:10:57,679 a lot of the reporting that went on from the 161 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Federalist at that time. I think of Mollyway, you know, 162 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:07,919 at the center, telling the real true story. But you guys, 163 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 you guys had hell to pay for knowing the true 164 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,559 story and trying to say, hey, listen, this Russian collusion 165 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:19,039 stuff is nonsense. But your hands are tied as well, 166 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,759 are they not, because this stuff is classified at that point, well. 167 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: They were for a number of years. And the really 168 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,840 difficult deal, you know, a bitter pill to swallow over 169 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:32,879 these years, has been to watch the likes of Adam 170 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,519 Schiff and Eric Swalwell and others who would routinely come 171 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:45,399 out and leak information in an attempt to discredit and 172 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,960 you know, dinnegrate President Trump without a sentilla of evidence 173 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,799 they You know, we heard Adam Shift routinely, almost daily 174 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:59,240 for a period in time, would come forward and say 175 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,360 that I've got evidence that President Trump is in fact 176 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,919 colluding with or has in fact colluded with Vladimir Putin. 177 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Never produced any. In fact, what we saw is right 178 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,080 the opposite. 179 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: He had been in contact with Russian assets, and he 180 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:22,240 had been, whether whether witting or unwitting, engaged with Russian intelligence. 181 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:27,080 And then we saw Eric Swalwell, who was engaged with 182 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:31,360 the Chinese spy, right and everything that that implied. And 183 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:35,159 so I find it ironic that individuals like that number one, 184 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,480 that they were allowed to serve on the Intelligence Committee, 185 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:40,720 and number two that they would come out and routinely 186 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:48,720 challenge President Trump with false allegations and nothing was ever 187 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:50,799 said or done. And it was difficult for us on 188 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,320 our side, because you know, we were trying to conduct 189 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,159 ourselves in a way that you would expect for folks 190 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,000 that have access to classified information to be good stewards 191 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,519 that information. In contrast, what you would see from Adam 192 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,519 Shift was he is the kind of guy that would 193 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,600 come out, walk out of the skiff in the middle 194 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,200 of a proceeding engage the media while a hearing was 195 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,039 still going on, leak information and then walk back into 196 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,159 the hearing while it was still underway. Those are the 197 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,200 kinds of things that we would see from ranking Member 198 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:27,559 Adam Shift and that proceeded under his tenure as chairman. 199 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Had no regard for the responsibility that he was charged 200 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,799 with in terms of, you know, overseeing the intelligence community, 201 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,519 but only saw it as an opportunity for him to 202 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:42,840 advance himself personally and also to undermine President Trump. 203 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,799 Speaker 1: And Chairman Nunez was viciously attacked. I mean not just 204 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:55,240 by you know, the deep staters and the Democrats. He 205 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,759 was attacked by a media that bought all of this. 206 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,679 In fact, you look at what happened in this time 207 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,159 period and now you look at what and how the 208 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,279 corporate media is responding to this, the accomplice media. They're 209 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:17,679 complicit in this phony manufactured intelligence, this narrative that was 210 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:22,480 crafted that of course Shift was pushing out there. But 211 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,120 at the same time you have career CIA agents telling 212 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:31,600 the likes of John Brennan and others. Wait a minute, 213 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:35,159 there's something terribly wrong with the sourcing and the narrative 214 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,440 that you're trying to put together. 215 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,879 Speaker 2: Well, you just touched on. They were complicit. 216 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:43,919 Speaker 3: It's not as though the media were just reporting facts 217 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:48,000 that were being put out there in the public sphere. 218 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:52,879 They were willing accomplices, in fact, so much so that 219 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,159 the steal doss a was deliberately leaked to Yahoo News, 220 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:01,720 an outlet that would actually receive and accept it, and 221 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,960 then that leak was used as a predicate to go 222 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:13,279 after and essentially launched crossfire Hurricane. And so what we 223 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,279 saw was an interaction with elements. 224 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: Of the IC and the media. 225 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:23,519 Speaker 3: So the media then becomes not an unwitting, you know, 226 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:27,000 player in this whole deal, but a witting accomplice, like, yes, 227 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,480 give us the information, will help spin this narrative, will 228 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,279 help sell it to the American people, will help take 229 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,399 down President Trump. 230 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,639 Speaker 2: That's not the role of the media. 231 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:39,559 Speaker 3: And they're not about to admit that they made that 232 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,039 mistake or that they were involved in that, because that 233 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,840 would that would be a huge revelation, it would discredit 234 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:46,320 all of them. 235 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: But every time you turn on. 236 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: CNN, MSNBC, other elements of the mainstream media, they're spinning 237 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,440 lies that are geared toward discrediting Republicans. It doesn't it's 238 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,320 not always about President Trump. But I mean most recent 239 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,159 example was, you know, this shooting in New York City 240 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:09,559 where you see Ann comes. You know, they jump to 241 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,519 an immediate conclusion and they start telling people what's going 242 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:16,519 on as if they have all the facts. But what 243 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:19,120 they were telling people was what they wanted to be 244 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,320 a fact, not what was a fact. And then they 245 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,200 I guess they feel like they can go and clean 246 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:28,559 up after themselves after they get it wrong. But what's 247 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,840 most important is to get the story out there first. 248 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:35,320 Facts be damned. This was the case here, but it wasn't. 249 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,159 It wasn't even about being first. It was about being involved. 250 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,240 It was about playing an active role in helping to 251 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,679 bring down President Trump and help the Democrats essentially build 252 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,159 a case over years that would ultimately result in an 253 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:55,240 impeachment proceeding. 254 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:01,279 Speaker 4: Is college even worth it anymore? The Watched Out on 255 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,400 Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps 256 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,119 unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how 257 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,720 it affects your wallet. Young male college grads are jobless 258 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,000 at the same rate as non grads. If the conventional 259 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,680 wisdom is that it's easier to get a job, they 260 00:17:16,759 --> 00:17:17,200 lied to you. 261 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: There Be smart with your choices. 262 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, 263 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,640 it's affecting you financially. 264 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: Be informed. 265 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 266 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 267 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: They thought they were going to be the next Woodward 268 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,640 in Bernstein, every single one of them, from the from 269 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,759 the CNN newsroom into the New York Times and the 270 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,640 Washington Post. They have clowned themselves over and over again, 271 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:49,359 and they are in progress of beclowning themselves again. Scandal 272 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,759 after scandal, driven by Democrats, you name it, and they 273 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:59,480 have been, as you said, willing complicit participants in what 274 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,279 has been described understandably so as a coup, a soft coup, 275 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,960 however you want to describe it, treasonous activity that has 276 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,759 been the allegation. And you look at this report and 277 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,799 you say to yourself, I think I understand why people 278 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,119 are making those allegations. Our guest today is Representative Rick Crawford, 279 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Republican Arkansas, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. 280 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:29,039 As you were going through and your staff were working 281 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:33,319 on this report and you're getting this information and again, 282 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:38,640 what we are seeing in these declassified documents is CIA 283 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,359 agent career agent after another saying wait a minute, hold 284 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,880 up here, this intelligence is shoddy and more and more 285 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,920 it looks like you're trying to drive a story, a 286 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:56,119 narrative as opposed to doing what your job is, and 287 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,200 that is to go where the information takes you. Did 288 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,160 you have converse stations in the committee with the with 289 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,200 John Brennan and Clapper and and those individuals who were 290 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,200 really driving this this bus. 291 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,279 Speaker 3: In fact, there was an open hearing and I think 293 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:16,480 one of the most notable exchanges was between Representative Trey 294 00:19:16,519 --> 00:19:20,240 Goudie and John Brennan when he asked him point o, yes, 295 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,400 did the Steele dossier have anything to do with your 296 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,640 with your decision in the i c A. And he 297 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,720 said it was. It was not in the corpus of 298 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,839 intelligence that we reviewed. And that's that's a flat out 299 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,240 why that's not just a misstatement, that's not just say 300 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,000 you know, well I I I misspoke or whatever. He 301 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,440 deliberately lied about that because he commented on and and 302 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,359 and insisted that the discredited Steele dossier actually be included, 303 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,839 and it's fundamental to the conclusions of the I C. A, 304 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:03,319 So he lied to Congress then and on multiple other occasions. 305 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,160 And so what we have here as an individual who 306 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,200 is perfectly willing to lie to Congress, demonstrably willing to 307 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,160 lie to Congress and did it on multiple occasions. And 308 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,519 then people say, well, how could the Senate report be different, 309 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,119 be so different than the Hipsie report. Well, I don't know, 310 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,839 but let me clarify something that the Sissy staff majority 311 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200 and minority, as well as hipsy majority of minority. 312 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: Staff, all had access to the same material. 313 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:37,599 Speaker 3: But if people like Brennan were willing to come to 314 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,559 the House of Representatives and lie, which they did and 315 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,759 he did, then it's reasonable to think that he probably 316 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,960 lied to the Senate as well, whether he lied in 317 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,799 an open hearing or a closed hearing. 318 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: You know ours was open. We also had closed hearings. 319 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: Lied in the closed hearings as well, But I don't 320 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,119 know what took place on the Senate side, but it's 321 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,559 reasonable to think that if he's willing to lie to 322 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:07,440 Congress in an open hearing in the House of Representatives, 323 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:11,039 then it's probably reasonable to think that he was willing 324 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:13,839 to lie to the Senate, and they could have formed 325 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,359 their opinions based on lies that he told them. So 326 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,039 you know, the differences are really in material. Well, what 327 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,279 we know, and our report is solid and fact based, 328 00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:25,519 is that this guy was at the heart of it. 329 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,400 He used bad intelligence, he used non existent intelligent He 330 00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:35,279 cobbled together half truths and in some cases lies fabricated 331 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:40,680 from whole cloth, and included that to come back and 332 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 say Donald Trump's a bad guy. He was colluding with 333 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:48,440 Vladimir Putin and we think they stole the election. Now, look, 334 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,319 what we also know is that Russia malign influence is 335 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,200 nothing new. It's been going on for decades. As long 336 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:58,359 as there's been this relationship between the Soviet Union and 337 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,480 the United States. You know, they have been engaged in 338 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:07,759 that type of effort against Us, against other adversaries and 339 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,839 in their region, in anywhere where they want to project influence. 340 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,599 I mean it could be, could be places like nick Rogwood, 341 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,119 could be you know, other places where they're actively engaged in, 342 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,200 you know, places like Syria. You know, bringing it home 343 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:29,279 to more contemporary timeline, but the bottom line is the 344 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,279 Russians have always been involved in the line influence and 345 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:35,799 they're really pretty good at it. Two things can be 346 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,839 true at the same time, Yes, they were involved in 347 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,559 the line influence. Did they alter votes? I don't know that, 348 00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:46,720 but that wasn't the argument. I certainly wasn't making the 349 00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:51,720 argument that they had altered vote totals. But they were 350 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:57,200 making the argument that Donald Trump was actively engaged in 351 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:03,440 collusion with Vladimir Putin to affect the outcome of the election. 352 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,880 And that is flat out false. And what's worse about 353 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,799 it is there are people in the United States to 354 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:12,160 this day who believe that's true because people like John 355 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,400 Brennan and CNN and MSNBC and others perpetrated that myth 356 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,039 and continue to hold that position to this day some 357 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:20,839 eight years later. 358 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,279 Speaker 1: Well, these people need to be held to account, and 359 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:27,720 that is going to take some more investigation, some more 360 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,119 deep digging. But what you already have here definitely is 361 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:36,720 a case to make against John Brennan, to make against 362 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,519 Jim Clapper and Jim Comey, and I would have to 363 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:45,359 say the former President of the United States, Barack Obama. 364 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:50,839 You know, we're hearing from spokespeople that the former president 365 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,799 is it says this is all you know, just false, 366 00:23:56,039 --> 00:24:00,920 it's all made up, and you know, just absolutely not true. Well, 367 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,680 he should know a thing or two about false and 368 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:08,799 made up intelligence, manufactured intelligence. That's exactly what happened here. 369 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720 How much is the former president of the United States 370 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:16,759 culpable in this? Was he an innocent bystander, as some 371 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:20,440 of his defenders have tried to assert. 372 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: Now, and I won't. 373 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:26,279 Speaker 3: I will never believe that he was not in the loop. 374 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,559 In fact, I believe that he was the one that said, hey, 375 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 let's do this. I believe he was acting as an 376 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,160 advocate for Hillary Clinton. 377 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: And trying to. 378 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, rehabilitate her image. I'm not 379 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,599 sure what it was he was doing at this point 380 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,400 the election was over, but clearly if he was engaged 381 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,720 in this level of deception, I don't know what his 382 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,519 in state would have been except to remove Donald Trump, 383 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,759 to throw into you know, some level, some question about 384 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,559 the results of the election and therefore caused potentially a 385 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,200 constitutional crisis and possibly. 386 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: Overturn the election results. 387 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,519 Speaker 3: And I don't know if he had it in his 388 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:21,960 head that, you know, maybe they could deliver a win 389 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:27,200 administratively to Hillary Clinton. If that's the case, and he's 390 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,440 got a lot to answer for. But what we do 391 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,640 know is that this was not something that just took 392 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,039 place on his watch and he wasn't aware of it. 393 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,799 He was aware of it, in fact, was an active participant, 394 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:43,839 I believe. I believe that he authorized his team to 395 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,279 engage in this effort. 396 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: What you found was very damning as well against Hillary Clinton, 397 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,319 the former Secretary of State and the failed presidential candidate. 398 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,759 And you talked about it before, but I think again, 399 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,599 I've written about this at the Federalist. Perhaps the least 400 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,319 surprising information that came from your report in twenty twenty 401 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,000 was that Hillary Clinton was suffering from some extreme emotional issues, 402 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,400 mental illness issues. That is part, just a small part 403 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:24,079 of what the Kremlin had and yet did not release. 404 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,720 That also includes the health problems that Hillary Clinton had. 405 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:31,480 The Kremlin had access to that, and it also had 406 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,000 access to some pretty damning information about the Clinton campaigns 407 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,359 involvement in the DNC's involvement in James Comey's investigation into 408 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640 Hillary Clinton and her emails. 409 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: Of course, yes, no question, and whether or not any 410 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:53,359 of that was true. 411 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:58,599 Speaker 3: The report doesn't necessarily assert one way or the other, 412 00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:00,880 is it true is it not. It's not about whether 413 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,319 or not it's true. It's about what the Russians believed 414 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,680 and how that impacted their decisions with regard to the 415 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,960 action they took or didn't take, as the case may be. 416 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: So, if they believed and they know they. 417 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:18,519 Speaker 3: Had information based on a DNC hack and email hacks 418 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,400 and so on, if they believed, and the evidence supports 419 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,720 that they did believe they had this information on Hillary 420 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:30,799 Clinton and chose not to use it, Why would they 421 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,279 choose not to use that if in fact they were 422 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:39,720 supporting and hoping for a president Trump. It doesn't make sense. 423 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,920 And so the only logical conclusion is that they, like 424 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920 most of the media and a whole lot of others 425 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,680 in the United States, assumed that Hillary Clinton was going 426 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:55,480 to be the president, and they held that information for 427 00:27:55,799 --> 00:28:00,160 use at a later date. And that's what we believe 428 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 to be the case. And there are no assertions made 429 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240 as to the veracity of the information that the Russians believed, 430 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:13,039 but there is assertion that the Russians believed it and 431 00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:18,319 it affected their actions, and so they withheld releasing any 432 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:21,960 of that information because they chose to use it as 433 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,039 at a later date. 434 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: I think time and information good intelligence, good information. I 435 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,440 think they have vindicated you and the Committee, the chairman 436 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,680 at the time, and all you know who were pressing 437 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:43,000 for the truth. Do you feel even more vindicated now 438 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:47,279 finally five years later with the release of this report. 439 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 440 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: And I think it's important to note too that one 441 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,480 individual who probably suffered the most and the character assassination 442 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:55,000 that he. 443 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,519 Speaker 2: Endured, and that's Devin Nunez. 444 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,119 Speaker 1: Yes. 445 00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: I mean, there was an ethics review, you know, for 446 00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,200 which he was cleared. There was no reason for this, 447 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:08,519 again another Democrat tactic to smear him, to take people's 448 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,000 eyes off of the facts. So we're going to try 449 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,640 to discredit Devin Nuness and so they made that effort. 450 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,160 It was a fruitless effort, but it's still something that 451 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Devin had to go through and we all watched it happen, 452 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,440 and so there was that. So this is completely vindicating 453 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,319 for him. But you know, think about the legal fees 454 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:29,759 that he incurred because of some of the actual not 455 00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,799 just ethics reviews that he had to deal with in Congress, 456 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160 but some of the legal stuff where he had to 457 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,799 go through and incur all kinds of legal expenses to 458 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:41,119 defend himself and so. 459 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:45,039 Speaker 2: On, all at the hands of people like Adam. 460 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:50,559 Speaker 3: Schiff who it turns out, is you know, maybe one 461 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:55,559 of the biggest political scumbags in history, and yet he 462 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,759 is a United States Senator now. 463 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: And it just boggles. 464 00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: The mind that somebody like that can be in a 465 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,680 position of responsibility and has has the ability to deceive 466 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,200 essentially millions of voters in California and ascend to that 467 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,759 position not only as a member of Congress and the 468 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,880 House of Representatives, but now as a Senator, and that 469 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880 he was the chairman of that committee, one of the 470 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:27,000 most sensitive committees in Congress, and a complete travesty and 471 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:32,359 the amount of you know, the potential vulnerability that he 472 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:36,240 was a weak spot for national security I can't even 473 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,359 begin to explain. But I'm glad to see that he's 474 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,680 no longer, certainly not in a position of authority as 475 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 it applies to intelligence anymore. But that was those were 476 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,119 some dark days for the United States, and he drugged 477 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:54,079 the American people through this. And there are still probably 478 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:58,079 millions of Americans to this day that believe that President 479 00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,359 Trump was in fact an agent of the Russians, when 480 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,119 exact opposite is true. In fact, if anything, Adam Shift 481 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,279 was an agent of the Russians, whether winning or not. 482 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,440 He was certainly a useful idiot as it applies to 483 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Russian the line influence. 484 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it tells you where Trump derangement syndrome really is. 485 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,559 We have people believing the likes of Adam Shift, who 486 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,839 has been so discredited. Your word is scumbag, My word 487 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,799 is weasel. I think they both fit accordingly. Final question 488 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,720 for you, You've been very generous with your time. I 489 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,720 know you have a lot on your plate these days, 490 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,279 even more so now with what's going on with these 491 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,200 declassified documents. Do you believe the people we have talked 492 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,880 about will ever be truly held accountable? And what is 493 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,279 next for your committee in this process? 494 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:54,839 Speaker 2: I want to believe. 495 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: That our Justice Department, under the leadership of Pam Bondi 496 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,440 and Cash Betel, have that they're going to adjudicate everyone 497 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,400 who is culpable here and bring the full weight of 498 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,400 our justice system against them. Whether or not there is 499 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,279 some loophole, some you know, executive privilege that you know 500 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:26,200 protects President Obama. I don't know, but I do know 501 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,599 this that there are people that were involved in this, 502 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,240 that were complicit, probably at the GS thirteen level, and 503 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000 guess what, they're still employed out there at the CIA. 504 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,599 They're now GS fifteen or above. They're now in the 505 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,000 Senior Executive Service. They're now in positions of authority. And 506 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,039 guess what they're doing right now. They're trying to engage 507 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,720 in revisionist history and memory. Hold this whole thing that 508 00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,400 didn't happen. Let's just pretend none of this has happened, 509 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,400 and I'll continue to collect my big paycheck and nobody 510 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,920 be any of the wiser. I think we have to 511 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:05,400 identify those individuals, call them out, hould them to account, 512 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,440 remove them from the ICE, remove their security clearances, and 513 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400 make sure they never work in national security ever. Again, 514 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,759 that is an in state I can live with. 515 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: This is such a major scandal. It is. And again, 516 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,160 if we had a responsible media that wasn't in the 517 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,240 bag for the Democratic Party, this information would have been 518 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,200 out there, the false information would have been disputed a 519 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,359 lot earlier, and you know, obviously American history would be different. 520 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,240 But at the end of the day, this whole affair, 521 00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:51,519 the whole Russia collusion hoax, it diminished the president's first term, 522 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:55,119 President Donald Trump's first term in office. It was interference 523 00:33:55,359 --> 00:34:00,279 in an election. And while you have the leftist talking 524 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,680 about Trump being the threat, the existential threat to democracy. 525 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,280 What these documents show is that the Democrats in power, 526 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:16,679 President Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Clapper, and Jim Comey 527 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,800 and the rest, they were the real threat to democracy. 528 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: And you know, the irony of it is that people 529 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:32,840 like Brennan, Clapper, you know, even some others like Andy McCabe, 530 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,519 Pete Strock, those type of people, they've gone on to 531 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,679 lucrative careers in the media. If you don't if that's 532 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,360 not irony, it's just amazing to me that the American 533 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,480 people can be fooled at such a scale, on such 534 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,719 a level, and it's only because of a complicit media. 535 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,320 And so what happens the payoff for those individuals is 536 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,360 they put them on the payroll. They give them a great, 537 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,119 big million contract to be contributors at CNN so they 538 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,559 can continue to drive that false narrative over time. That 539 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:13,280 has continued on from twenty seventeen to date, and none 540 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,880 of those people have been questioned about whether or not 541 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,199 they were right, whether or not they made a mistake, 542 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,800 whether or not they were credible, and they're still on. 543 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,320 You know, those guys are still on CNN. They're still 544 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,760 on MSNBC and still you know, writing editorials for various publications, 545 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440 in many cases, still hold a security clearance. 546 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: And it's an. 547 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,599 Speaker 3: Absolute travesty because what they've done is, you know, they've really, 548 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:41,239 in my opinion, perpetrated the largest, you know, deepest, widest 549 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,960 hoax I think we've ever seen in American history. And 550 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,519 they seem to be proud of it. And that's the 551 00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:48,880 thing that bothers me the most. 552 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: Some of them are writing poorly written novels as well. 553 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,440 Isn't that interesting when you think about it, the guy 554 00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:03,079 writing the intelligence since the agency style novels, is the 555 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,559 guy that, based on these documents, appears to be a 556 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:13,679 manufacturing and writing a narrative for a complicit media to 557 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,519 fully swallow and regurgitate. Thanks to my guest today, Representative 558 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:22,400 Rick Crawford, Republican, Arkansas, Chairman of the House Permanent Select 559 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,800 Committee on Intelligence, you've been listening to another edition of 560 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,480 The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent 561 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,079 at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then, 562 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,480 stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame