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<v Speaker 1>Dave McCarthy does a hell of a job for NHL

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com at NHL Network covering the fastest sport there

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<v Speaker 1>is and the hardest trophy to win, and he joins

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<v Speaker 1>us here on Exus and Broth. Dave, good to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Better than I can ask for it, man, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for having me excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's an honor to have you on. What's We

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<v Speaker 1>were having this conversation earlier. Home court, home field, home

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<v Speaker 1>ice advantage. Who does it favor most? Which sport does

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<v Speaker 1>it favor most? You know, hockey obviously get the last

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<v Speaker 1>shift change, Baseball you get the last at bats. It

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<v Speaker 1>sure doesn't look like it's favored anybody particularly. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that is? Why have the road teams been

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<v Speaker 1>so good so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think there's much of a benefit to

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<v Speaker 2>it in hockey as there used to be. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about that the other day in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning to skate back twenty thirty years ago, there would

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<v Speaker 2>be teams that would run shecking lines quote unquote kwai

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<v Speaker 2>rigorous and really look to hard match against the other

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<v Speaker 2>team's best players and put out a line of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that would really try to grind the other team's best

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<v Speaker 2>players into the ground all game long. That's not really

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<v Speaker 2>the case anymore. There really are not too many teams

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<v Speaker 2>that look too hard match the way they used to,

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<v Speaker 2>just simply because everybody's so good. It kind of gets

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of get in your own way, but you

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<v Speaker 2>get caught up in trying to hard match all game long.

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<v Speaker 2>So getting the last change in hontey that used to

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit of a benefit from coaches that I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to. It's not as much of a benefit anymore

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<v Speaker 2>because they just don't try to They don't try to

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<v Speaker 2>navigate the game the same way as they did. So

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, I mean, that's the biggest tactical advantage there is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't deal with the crowd. I mean, last

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<v Speaker 2>time I checked, they weren't on the ice, So that

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<v Speaker 2>does really coming to play on that much of the

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<v Speaker 2>times the home crash and work against the home team

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<v Speaker 2>by tensing them up a little bit, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>game seven, you want to come out, get out again,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry of the crowd into it squeezer sticks a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's easier to play on the road when you're

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<v Speaker 2>only worried about playing, you know, the most sound structure

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<v Speaker 2>and if need be boring game that you can. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as much of a thing. I'd say probably

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<v Speaker 2>baseball would be the biggest advantis at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, I'd so like.

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<v Speaker 1>To have the last at bat man Well said, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Dave McCarthy joiners. You can call him

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at Dave A McCarthy. We hear this every

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<v Speaker 1>time the Stanley Cup playoffs begin. It's the hardest trophy

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<v Speaker 1>to win. I don't disagree with that. Tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>you think it is, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because it's four rounds of generally speaking, an absolute battle.

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<v Speaker 2>You looked at the way the game changes the gular

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<v Speaker 2>season to the playoffs and Hotey, it's almost it almost

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a different sport at times. The physicality, the

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<v Speaker 2>intensity you fight for every inch of ice. Guys finish

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<v Speaker 2>their checks harder, and then you got to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get past one round, you got to do

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<v Speaker 2>that three more times. The competition only gets tougher. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you look at a game in in February

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<v Speaker 2>on a Tuesday night, it just doesn't look the same.

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<v Speaker 2>And people always tell me, all why don't they play

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<v Speaker 2>the same way in the regular season as they do

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. You just physically could not do that

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<v Speaker 2>game in, game out for six months straight with the

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<v Speaker 2>crazy travel and the back to backs, and then follow

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<v Speaker 2>that up into the playoffs and be at your vet.

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<v Speaker 2>You just simply physically couldn't do it. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the biggest reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Personally, I could not have been more wrong before the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs began. I picked Tampa and Colorado in the Stanley

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<v Speaker 1>Cup finals. Again, could not have been more wrong both

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<v Speaker 1>first round bounces. I'll be free to admit Nathan McKinnon

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite players. I just love watching him play,

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<v Speaker 1>so that had a lot to do with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Tampa's balance was outstanding and goaltending matters too. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you who do you think is playing the best

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<v Speaker 1>hockey right now? And how much different is it, if

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<v Speaker 1>at all, from when they were playing in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do like your point about Nathan McKinnon, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that was a terrible pick at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a That was a Western Conference final level

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<v Speaker 2>matchup Dallas, Colorado the first in the first round, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unfortunately one team had to go home and

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<v Speaker 2>You heard Colorado coming out of their locker clean out

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<v Speaker 2>day and they were quite despoted that they that they lost,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was hard to take, especially I played out

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<v Speaker 2>they were up in game seven and and it couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>close it out. Playing the best hockey right now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a tough one to say. You know, I think Edmonton

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<v Speaker 2>is starting to find their game. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 2>mess in the first two and a half against LA,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been been They look much better. However, the

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<v Speaker 2>time that they have to come from behind every game

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<v Speaker 2>is also not entirely inspiring. Good on them for being

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<v Speaker 2>able to do its five games in a row, first

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<v Speaker 2>team in the history of the league to ever do

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<v Speaker 2>that in the playoffs. But if you keep chasing the game,

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<v Speaker 2>eventually that luck is going to run out. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bit of a concern there. Vegas is still

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<v Speaker 2>looks like they're trying to find their game. Winnipeg, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to see more from Hellibuck before I buy into them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would probably go Dallas at this point

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<v Speaker 2>just because I based in Toronto, and if I said

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<v Speaker 2>the Leafs, everybody would call me a homer.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about pressure, I mean there's no team and

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<v Speaker 1>no player, specifically, their big name players, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>Matthews or Kneelander or Marner or Tavares with pressure like Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way they responded in Game six, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do. And then I loved how they responded in

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<v Speaker 1>the opening game against Florida. I think they're really although

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were up big four to one and

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<v Speaker 1>then they let it slip a little bit away and

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<v Speaker 1>made things a little nervous. Why haven't they been able

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<v Speaker 1>to get over the top? Do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. Look, they ran into teams for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of years in Boston that we're just I think,

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<v Speaker 2>quite simply a little bit better than them. And for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, the top players that you mentioned, their production

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<v Speaker 2>has gone down in the postseason. At the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, if you're going to go anywhere, it needs

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<v Speaker 2>to come from your top guys. They need to be

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<v Speaker 2>at their best. You look at other guys around the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Deandreiseidel's production actually goes up in the postseason, Nico Random's

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<v Speaker 2>production actually goes up in the postseason, Nate McKinnon's. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's I think he's got fifty goals, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>nine points this last eighty two playoff games, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and these guys have all gone on deep runs. If

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<v Speaker 2>not having won the Stanley Cup, you haven't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. Their top guys have have diminished in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs in years past, this year not yet. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been quite good through this point, and that's I

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<v Speaker 2>think why we're seeing the Leaves have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of success right now. But it needs to continue. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get contributions from your depth. You get Simon ben

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<v Speaker 2>Watt stepping up with a key goal in overtime the

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<v Speaker 2>Auto series, or Max Paccaretti, who's played quite well of late.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's great when you get your depth chipping in.

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<v Speaker 2>You need that, of course, but that only matters if

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<v Speaker 2>it comes in conjunction with your best players being at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of their game. That's what really pushes you through,

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<v Speaker 2>and so far we're seeing that from the Leaves this spring.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Detroit, so I have to ask you about

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<v Speaker 1>the Wings. Maybe not as much about Steve Eisman and

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Larkins corresponding comments regarding the trade deadline, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were different, but I did want to ask you the

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<v Speaker 1>need for this team to reach the postseason and how

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<v Speaker 1>they go about getting that player. We just brought the least.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Martner's the biggest name in free agency. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>right winger. Detroit many people feel needs a center. What

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<v Speaker 1>go about getting it because they're probably not getting it

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<v Speaker 1>with the thirteenth pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I then they need to figure out their goaltending

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<v Speaker 2>as well. That has been something that has continually been

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<v Speaker 2>influxd Like how many goal is have they run through

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<v Speaker 2>in Detroit over the last eight years. They haven't. They

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<v Speaker 2>haven't sorted that out. And if you can't get a

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<v Speaker 2>stop reliably and your team is already maybe just okay upfront,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's going to sue you. So they need to

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<v Speaker 2>they need to sort out their goaltending, and then they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to need to figure out I think they're a

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<v Speaker 2>number of players away to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>With you, or to be a serious threat.

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<v Speaker 2>To make the playoffs man, Because look, Dylan Larkin is

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<v Speaker 2>a good player. I like him a lot. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not consider him to be a number one center in

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<v Speaker 2>this league. If you go up against Matthews, if you

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Barkov, if you go up against Nick Suzuki, I

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<v Speaker 2>find Detroit coming out second in most of those, all

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<v Speaker 2>of those matchups. Okay, So that means that all of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys I mentioned are in Detroit's division. Means you

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<v Speaker 2>need to beat those teams in the regular year. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to do that when your center, your

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<v Speaker 2>top center, is beneath all of those guys I think

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan are it's an outstanding second line center. Like man,

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<v Speaker 2>he would I hate to say it. I know where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on right now, And man, would he look good

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado behind Nate McKinnon. And that's what Colorados? They

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<v Speaker 2>need a second Detroit needs first line center. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>need a couple of more guys that can store. They

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<v Speaker 2>need to figure out their d Why Detroit let Philip

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<v Speaker 2>Veronic get away? Why they moved on him, why they

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<v Speaker 2>moved on Jake Walman Like? Their ability to assess defensemen

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<v Speaker 2>over the last three or four years has been enough

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<v Speaker 2>to make me want to bang my head against the

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<v Speaker 2>wall to sign Justin Hall to a three year deal

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<v Speaker 2>at what three plus million? Like I wish Steve out

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<v Speaker 2>have called me and asked me what do I think

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<v Speaker 2>of Justin Hall? And I would have told him, don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I've watched the guy play more than enough

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<v Speaker 2>in Toronto to know that nice guy, nice player, not

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<v Speaker 2>worth that kind of money. Depth defenseman at best. So

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<v Speaker 2>they've made mistakes there, which is to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the drafts over the last number of years have

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<v Speaker 2>been really slow to bear fruits. Joe Blato has not

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<v Speaker 2>really panned out to be an impact player, Marco Casper's

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<v Speaker 2>starting the season, signs maybe starting to They've and Edvanson

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<v Speaker 2>maybe starting the seasons, but not many guys from the

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<v Speaker 2>drafts over the last number of years that are at

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<v Speaker 2>the point where they're impact players. So I have not

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<v Speaker 2>been high on this Detroit team for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and for good reason, I think so. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of work to do. I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>do in the Trent.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's great perspective. We greatly appreciate it. I bring

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<v Speaker 1>up that they would have I mean, they tied for

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<v Speaker 1>the final playoffs spot a year ago but lost on

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<v Speaker 1>the tiebreaker with Washington. But I don't disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We've said that a long time about Dylan Larkin, who

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<v Speaker 1>we like a lot, and you're right, but you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going out and fixing that anytime soon because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>spending over paying for a thirty four year old John Tavares.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no number one center out there to acquire, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the insight, love your knowledge, love what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great work, and we appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great rest of the week, and keep up

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<v Speaker 1>the great work.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. Thanks a lot, thank you, thanks for having me