WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:28.879 At a book. 2 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.959 If you'd like to be able to listen to the 3 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.959 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 4 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.400 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 5 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:44.159 Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Kevin Binach. Kevin, 6 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:45.319 welcome to the show. 7 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.200 Well, thank you, Vick for the astounding honor to be 8 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.239 here with you and everyone tonight. 9 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.560 Well, the honor is all mine. We really appreciate your time. Kevin, 10 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.760 please give us a brief bio on yourself. 11 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.560 Well, I am a father of six children. I've been 12 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:08.400 married for twenty years to a wonderful wife that has 13 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:15.719 taken care of a lot of stuff. I live in Sharon, Wyoming, 14 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.719 which is kind of a nestled against the backdrops of 15 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.159 the big worn mountains. 16 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.039 That sounds like a beautiful place. It really does. 17 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:31.199 Yeah, it has a lot of history to it. But yeah, 18 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:36.719 when I'm not taking care of elderly residents, I also 19 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:42.080 am I'm kind of halfway retired paranormal investigators. So that's 20 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.800 been keeping me busy for off and on throughout the years. 21 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:50.039 Well, I'm sure it has been. You produce a paranormal 22 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.360 theme podcast, Kevin, is your dog me an encounter that 23 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.439 we're going to talk about tonight. The reason why you 24 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.439 created it. 25 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:03.560 Well, yeah, technically that whole encounter sparred a whole what 26 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.680 if situation, But yeah, it's it's the main reason I 27 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.199 like to try to reach out to people and figure 28 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:15.840 out on the ends and outs of these type of things. 29 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.000 I'm not sure how much you thought about it, but 30 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:23.800 you were definitely affected by your encounter, compromised in certain ways, 31 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.240 and by you creating that pure normal theme podcast. I 32 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.599 think that's probably helped you, has it. 33 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.560 Yes and no, To be honest with you, When the 34 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:39.639 encounter happened, it became a core memory. And you know, 35 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:41.680 I'm the type of guy that you know, I could 36 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:45.759 feel comfortable in a cemetery or you know, an advanted place, 37 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.479 or you know, somewhere with really bad historical factors to it. 38 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.479 But there was just something about that whole situation that 39 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:56.520 just kind of shook me to the core and kind 40 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:58.520 of stayed with me for all these years. 41 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.120 See, that's a funny thing about dog being encounters. You 42 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.360 take this person over here, who before they have the encounter, 43 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.400 you would think that, Okay, if they have an encounter, 44 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.639 they're gonna just deal with it so well. But this 45 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.439 person over here with those qualities doesn't deal with it 46 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.800 all that well. But this person over here, who you 47 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.279 think would fall apart after having an encounter, even a 48 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.519 bad one, they don't. You never really know. It's just 49 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:25.959 one of those things. You never know how an experience 50 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.759 like that is going to affect you until it happens 51 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:32.879 to you. But you are doing well, So as long 52 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.120 as we can say that, then you know, let's play 53 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:38.639 the glad game. Please tell us about your podcast. 54 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:44.680 Well, I am a host of a podcast called Nature's Darkest. 55 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:51.279 It's a podcast dealing with paranormal events, activities, strange weather events, 56 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.079 missing people. It's just kind of all over the place. 57 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:56.920 One of the things that comes along with doing a 58 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.480 podcast like that, a paranormal podcast where you talk about 59 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:06.079 ghosts and demons and other haunted areas, things like that 60 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.519 that most people who listen to them don't even think about, 61 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:12.319 is sometimes there's blowback that comes along with doing that. 62 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:18.240 I mean sometimes if you speak with hosts who post 63 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.600 shows like that, behind the scenes, they'll tell you about 64 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.639 strange things that happen to them while they're hosting shows. 65 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:27.680 Most of them don't seem to come forward and talk 66 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.079 about that sort of thing, but it definitely does happen. 67 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.759 As you've been hosting episodes of your show, has anything strange. 68 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:40.639 Happened, Well, not really. It's just mainly just me talking 69 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:45.000 about my experiences and dealing with the paranormal. Every once 70 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:50.040 in a while I'll do like an interview, but no, 71 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:56.399 nothing like that has really affected the podcast as anything else. 72 00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:00.680 I mean, it's just just coming about the topics. Really, 73 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.519 we're still trying to figure out our voice and our 74 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.800 format and stuff, and podcasts came a long way, but 75 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:09.279 it's not there yet. 76 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.800 Well, it takes time and everyone listening. If you want 77 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.360 to check out Kevin's podcast, of course, I'm going to 78 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.920 post a link to it in the description for tonight's show. 79 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.160 That'll make it really easy to find. But back on 80 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.519 what we're talking about here, Yeah, a perfect example Art Bell. 81 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.720 He talked about that how he would be hosting episodes 82 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.199 of his show and things on the desk would start 83 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:34.279 moving around. So that's a perfect example of what I'm 84 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:38.959 talking about. Now. One thing I don't understand Kevin is, 85 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.680 like I said, you were compromised and you still are compromised. 86 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.920 By your dog mean encounter. But you still waited about 87 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.120 three months to contact me after you found out about me. 88 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:50.240 Why'd you wait? 89 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.439 Well, first, I'm the type of person that likes to 90 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.000 do the research. When I was initially looking to reach 91 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:03.560 out to people, it was I just used Google and 92 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.560 typed in dog man books or media and stuff like that, 93 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.879 and that's where I came across you, and I started 94 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:16.959 listening to your wonderful podcast. And the reason I waited 95 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:18.959 so long is because I wanted to hear what other 96 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.519 people had to say about their encounters and I kind 97 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.680 of had to compare it. And then one night, at 98 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:28.160 three o'clock in the morning, I'm like, you know, I 99 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.079 just need to get a hold of this guy because 100 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:35.160 it's like, obviously the platform that he has, he has 101 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.439 a vast knowledge about these things. So sorry, I'm a 102 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:39.079 little nervous. 103 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.360 Oh no, don't feel bad about that. I've had people 104 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.879 come on the show to have their own podcasts, just 105 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.879 like you, people who have had their podcasts for years 106 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.920 and years, and they get so nervous you can almost 107 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:55.160 hear them shake. So it's not unprecedented. It's not just 108 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:59.040 you now, Kevin, you still can't head into the woods 109 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.439 by yourself all years later. Do you think you're ever 110 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:03.959 going to be able to head into the woods again 111 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:06.759 by yourself? Someday? 112 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:12.040 I would like to. I would really would appreciate just 113 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:15.079 being out there camping with my family and not being 114 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:21.079 on edge. I you know, it's it's a slow, steady process, 115 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:26.800 but it's I'm beginning to pretty much heal from that experience. 116 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:29.560 Well, as long as you can say that, that's a 117 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:33.519 good thing. Like we talked about the other day, baby steps, 118 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:34.279 don't rush it. 119 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.879 Yeah, now that you mentioned it. It was like just 120 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.159 the other night or a couple of days ago, there 121 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.320 was northern whites that was reported over at Sheridan. So 122 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.200 I kind of took my family out to the snowboll 123 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.120 Bill Turnouts, which is just kind of at the base 124 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.000 of the big Warre Mountains on the south side of Sheridan, 125 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.399 and it was it was actually nice, you know, to 126 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:58.559 be able to look up at the night sky and 127 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.679 see all the stars and be a part of eature again. 128 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:02.639 It felt nice. 129 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.360 Well, that's really good. I'm glad you're able to do 130 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.879 that now. Living where you do by the Big Horns, 131 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.360 is it mostly open plains or do you have a 132 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:12.759 lot of forests around. 133 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.240 What does it look like, Well, a lot of prairies, 134 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:21.159 a lot of foothills. But we are at the base 135 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.600 of the mountains. There are quite a bit of forests 136 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.759 even in here in town and Sheridan, but there's a 137 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.720 lot more the closer you get to the Big Horn Mountains. 138 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.240 It's usually green for the most part, except for like 139 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.919 in August, where it's all dried out. But it's beautiful 140 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:40.279 country there really is. 141 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:46.000 Oh, it definitely sounds like it, all right, Kevin, Please 142 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.559 tell us about your experiences. Now give us a ver 143 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.080 last detail that comes to mind. 144 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.200 Okay, Well, my first encounter happened. I'm not really sure 145 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.879 on the dates, but it was between two thousand and 146 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:02.440 one and two thousand and three. Because of the nature 147 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.279 of my how I make an income, I usually work 148 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:09.200 like nights. But this particular night, I got off about 149 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.240 I would assume about eleven, and I was going out 150 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.320 of Sheridan on Big Horn Avenue, which is a road 151 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:22.799 that goes south. And as I was going south on 152 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.399 Big Horn Avenue, I saw this object come across the road. 153 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.279 So I slowed down because I didn't want to hit it. 154 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:32.919 Because first you know, I was thinking maybe it was 155 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:36.799 a deer, but then I turned my brights on and 156 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.240 come to find it wasn't a deer. What I saw 157 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.799 was it was about from six to seven feet all. 158 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:49.000 When I first sawt, it was hunched over on all fours. 159 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:56.120 The fur or hair was completely all white. The back 160 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:01.120 part of its legs were more like dog legs, but 161 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.080 the torso and the forearms and the pies and the 162 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.960 shoulder area was was It looked like a human. 163 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.320 It was a humanoid. When I started looking at it 164 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.840 even more, it had really long forearms. I mean, these 165 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:27.960 things were unnaturally long. It had had a husky tail, 166 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.000 you know how the husky tail kind of curves up 167 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.440 and kind of has the hair. This thing was white. 168 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.440 I mean it was literally white. It was muscular, but 169 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:44.120 it wasn't like like a male muscular. The head which 170 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.240 really took me off because while I was staring at this, 171 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:53.360 it actually stood up and turned its torso towards me 172 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.159 so I could like really get a good look at it. 173 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.559 The ears on this was extremely long. They were kind 174 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:08.320 of between the top and the mid It like moved 175 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:12.200 its sears like on how a wolf or a dog would. 176 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:19.240 But the muzzle on this thing was it was pretty 177 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.080 it was pretty long. It didn't like smarl or anything 178 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.720 at me, but it definitely looked at me and like 179 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.600 and gave me the look like I was sitting in 180 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.960 my car, like I said, and this thing just looked 181 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.960 at me and like, don't you come any closer? And 182 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.600 I'm just looking at this thing. And then it just 183 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:43.360 kind of like realized I wasn't no threat, and then 184 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:47.039 it went back onto all fours. But it jumped from 185 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:50.600 the middle of this freeway to the shoulder, and then 186 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.360 from the shoulder it jumped over a four foot barbar 187 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.960 fence and ran into the field. There's houses now in 188 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.960 the field, but at this time it was it was 189 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.039 kind of connected to the airport, so there was a 190 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:10.240 lot of vass very still available. And when it started 191 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:14.519 running off into the field, it was like it launched 192 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:19.159 itself from its forearms and then the back end legs 193 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:23.120 kind of came underneath of it and pushed off. But 194 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.600 this thing was quick. It disappeared into the darkness really quick, 195 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.000 evening considering it was white. But I was just kind 196 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.519 of left there, you know, kind of stunted because it's like, 197 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:39.799 what did I just see. And so I continued driving 198 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:42.759 out to my friends's house and she looked at me 199 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.919 at the time and she's like, what did you see? 200 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.039 And I told her at the time, I thought it 201 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.720 was a wearwole. I didn't know that at this time 202 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:55.799 the dogmen were a thing. And so I sat there 203 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:59.000 and I described it, and I didn't fall asleep that night. 204 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.159 She just want me to stay out there because I was, 205 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.840 you know, I was literally shaken to the core because 206 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:08.480 I you know, I used to watch horror movies and 207 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.799 stuff like that, but this was real life. This was legit. 208 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:18.759 This was you know, this was not a hallucination. This 209 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.200 wasn't I mean, this was you know, I can remember it. 210 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.480 Getting back to the point to the describing. You know, 211 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.639 it had muscles, but it didn't have like male type 212 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.279 of muscles. It was kind of a leaner type muscle. 213 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:40.320 It wasn't like this bulky, heavy bodybuilder mass. It was like, yeah, 214 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.519 it still had muscle tension and definition, but it was 215 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.679 like it wasn't like I almost kind of want to 216 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.360 think it was like almost like a like a female 217 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:57.720 thought man, because it just I mean, it was it 218 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:00.559 was an imposing specimen regardless, but it was still it 219 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:06.879 wasn't like some other reports that were given that it 220 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.480 was like like a man. So I mean, even to 221 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:16.559 this day, it was like like I said, it became 222 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.960 a core memory and for the longest time, you know, 223 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:24.000 I had to stop watching certain horror movies. I couldn't 224 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.879 go you know, I didn't even want to venture out 225 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:32.080 after when it got dark anywhere. You know, Sheridan is 226 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:38.679 not as populated as some other areas, and it took 227 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:43.440 a lot for my wife to get me out, even 228 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.399 for the longest time, to just get into a car 229 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.120 and just drive out in the country because I'd always 230 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.960 roll the windows up and lock the doors, and you know, 231 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.600 it took a long long time for me to you know, 232 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:04.879 process and even to this date it's it's not as 233 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.840 terrifying because I know what it was, but it but 234 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:13.159 having that misunderstanding, that fear, because people fear what they 235 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:19.399 don't understand. And I definitely heard this thing for a 236 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:24.159 very long time. I remember having night terrors that I 237 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.360 would be dreaming about this thing. And like I said, 238 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.399 it wasn't aggressive, but it was it was just a 239 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.879 proof of something else out there that existed. 240 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:35.879 If you've had a dog mean encounter that you need 241 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:37.639 help dealing with, or if you'd like to be a 242 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.399 guest on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com 243 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.519 and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting, 244 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.000 we'll like to be a guest on one of my 245 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.679 two big foot podcasts. Please go to my Bigfoot Sighting 246 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:51.480 dot com. 247 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:57.879 So, as I informed you, I'm a semi retired paranormal investigator. 248 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:04.680 So when people come to me with their situations, you know, 249 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.519 they you know, they think I'm going to think they're 250 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:15.440 crazy or something. But my second one was estimated between 251 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.799 twenty ten and twenty sixteen, and this happened at the 252 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:25.359 southern end of Sheridan County. The person that reported I 253 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:30.319 work with her at at the place that I work at. Obviously, 254 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:37.680 she she told me about her experience where she used 255 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:42.599 to live on this really large ranch and she grew 256 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.279 up on this ranch. So this lady knows what local 257 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:50.960 lawdlife sounds like, what it looks like, what it you know, 258 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:54.799 she can She used to take care of cattle and 259 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:59.039 they would used to rent some of the area out 260 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:03.400 for cattle, and she was in charge to make sure 261 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.119 that the cattle are safe and secure and that they're 262 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:12.799 all accounted for well. Strange things started happening in one 263 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.319 of the areas that they had this little river and 264 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.400 swamp area and then they called it the beaver area 265 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.480 because they had a little beaver dam. But what was 266 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.240 really interesting is that they had this burrow that was 267 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:31.599 inside of I would say, you know, a large land mass, 268 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.000 like a gulch or something a goalie. And every once 269 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:39.160 in a while she would go out and take count 270 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:43.559 of the cattle. But which was really interesting is when 271 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:45.480 she would do that every once in a while, it 272 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.960 wasn't all the time, but there would be a cattle missing, 273 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:56.440 and eventually they would find like a carcass, and she 274 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.319 told me that it didn't look like your tipped coal 275 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:06.319 black bear or cougar or coyotes that would have done 276 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.640 this through the cattle. In one particular memory that she 277 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.440 had shared that her and a relative were on the 278 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.319 back of a four wheeler. They were going out to 279 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:23.440 go fix some fences and it was probably she said, 280 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.240 it was kind of late at night, and they drove 281 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.880 past the beaver pond and they were kind of going 282 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:35.599 up a hill. She described something that was seven feet 283 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:41.880 tall black had an amber eye. It stood by Petle 284 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:48.640 and she told me that it literally started running after 285 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:54.200 her and her family member back on a ATV. I'm 286 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.240 not a ranch kid, believe it or not, even though 287 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.799 I grew up in Sharon, Wyoming. But she said that 288 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:05.079 it started running bipedale And at this point in time, 289 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:06.640 I asked her she got a good look at it, 290 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:10.519 and she said it was it was muscular, it was black, 291 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:15.599 it was you know, she was describing a dog man basically. 292 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:21.000 But as getting back to the whole scenario, that as 293 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.920 soon as they started flooring the ATV, this thing got 294 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:29.839 on all fours and started chasing after them. I was 295 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.720 kind of kind of awestruck at that because ATVs can 296 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.680 go like, I don't know, maybe forty fifty miles per hour, 297 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.279 and it kept up with them. She eventually said that 298 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:43.359 it beer to the left and went into some of 299 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.359 the birch woods and climbed up a tree and that's 300 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:51.200 that was the last time they saw saw this thing 301 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:55.720 at that point. So, but her family members at this 302 00:20:55.839 --> 00:21:00.000 ranch always told her, you know, never go out. You know, 303 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.240 of course, they're out on a ranch and there's other 304 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:05.960 animals to be worried about. They were it almost kind 305 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:09.200 of sounded like they were taking extra precaution because of 306 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:12.480 this thing. And it seemed like more than one family 307 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:21.400 member had seen this thing. But they never they never 308 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.960 found any tracks, They never found anything abnormal other than 309 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:28.440 you know, just having account of go missing every once 310 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:34.799 in a while. They did have some They had some 311 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:41.960 like deer and elk. Eventually sometimes moose comes in and 312 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:46.920 sometimes they those animals would like will be on high 313 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:51.599 guard because of like like a big predator, like a 314 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:54.519 bear or something. But they were noticing that there was 315 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.480 almost little to no bears that were coming into the territory. 316 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.240 So this this was this thing was spotted off and 317 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:07.880 on throughout I don't know, probably I would assume about 318 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:11.519 maybe six eight years time span until they had to 319 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:17.559 move away from the from the ranch. And the woman 320 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:21.240 that reported it to me said that she has not 321 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:25.119 experienced anything. She hasn't heard anything. The ranchers are kind 322 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:28.160 of a tight knit community, so they're not going to 323 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:32.359 like totally reach out and dr reports of something like this. 324 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:38.640 They would be more than willing to handle this situation themselves. Unfortunately. Yeah, 325 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.200 so this black one spotted up and it was, like 326 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.279 I said, this was a very large ranch. It was 327 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.279 one of the largest rants on this side of the mountain. 328 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:55.480 But a lot of other family members had, like I said, 329 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:00.160 they experienced something, but they wouldn't like be totally were 330 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:06.519 coming on what they said or what they've witnessed. But 331 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.319 my friend actually thinks that there is a dog man 332 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.559 that lives on the property somewhere on the southern end 333 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:20.759 of Sheridan County. So the next one, again was reported 334 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:27.000 to me, was on a mountain side above Buffalo. Now 335 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:32.799 Buffalo is about thirty minutes away car wise. This one 336 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:38.240 was a little bit more. It was more sensitive because 337 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.400 the person that was reporting to it unfortunately had his 338 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:47.319 truck damaged at the point, so when he reported it, 339 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.680 he waited two years to get a hold. Well, he 340 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:52.160 didn't even realize that I was doing all this, but 341 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.400 when he found out that I kind of look into 342 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.599 some of this stuff, he brought his truck to me, 343 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.720 and it was a Ford F one point fifty, which is, 344 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:08.240 you know, it's a medium sized truck. And when he 345 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.319 was describing his details that he was parked up on 346 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:16.559 this mountain range and he was just camping up there, 347 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:21.319 just trying to just get away from everything. He encountered 348 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.200 what he reported to me was a howl. And when 349 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.799 he reported the howl, it was it was something deep. 350 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.359 It was like like it was like a low Bilibert's type. Yeah, 351 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:40.240 I mean, it was just a it was just a 352 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.000 very low, low howl. It made a very low noise. 353 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:50.799 It's like he could actually feel it physically. So in 354 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:56.759 a nutshell, he ended up trying to get out of there, 355 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.200 but unfortunately he I wasn't really sure if there was 356 00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:07.000 one or more of dog men up there, but they 357 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.759 ended up clawing his truck. And the way that he 358 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:19.559 was describing to me, it was like if they really 359 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.720 wanted to get to him, they could have done anything 360 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:28.640 possible to get to him. I mean, there was glass. 361 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.799 I mean, it just seemed like they were just concentrating 362 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:36.079 on just trying to make a scene and let him lean. 363 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.079 He thinks that they were trying to get him, of course, 364 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:45.200 but I'm after telling him, I'm going over the evidence 365 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:50.359 his truck ended up. He ended up buffing most of 366 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:54.200 it out because he just didn't realize to document that. 367 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.839 He still has a few scratches and tears into the 368 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.799 bed of the act truck, and I took when he 369 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.359 pulled up the truck. I actually took out a measuring 370 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.160 tape and I, you know, I threw on the hood, 371 00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:13.519 like like where the cab is. There is like literally 372 00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:18.079 a five foot long scratch on top of the roof 373 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:23.720 of the truck. So I measured that. I measured the 374 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:28.480 length versus the width, and it wasn't a bear. Bears 375 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.039 kind of having a unique pattern their claws are together. 376 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:37.519 These scratch markses were more far apart, and they were 377 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.559 more more than probably I'm gonna have to look at 378 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.160 the pictures again, but they were like between five to 379 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.720 seven inches apart. That that's wider than any black bear 380 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:55.599 that we will have. So with that and with that 381 00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:01.880 until considering it was two years go, we decided to 382 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:06.359 go back up where this event happened and we started 383 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:13.000 taking photographs of of some of the trees, and it 384 00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:17.039 looks like we got a decent sized print, like a 385 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:22.759 backfoot print. So I ended up keeping that I'm not 386 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.359 a wildlife expert. I can't really say for sure what 387 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.559 it could be. But when I when I tried to 388 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.880 put some type of measurement in it, I you know, 389 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.319 I'm I'm five foot eight, about one hundred and eighty 390 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.799 five pounds. I can put my finger down into it 391 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.920 and went up to my knuckle. So something really heavy 392 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:49.119 had to like press to make this print. So it's it's, 393 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.200 you know, I don't have anything really to go by, 394 00:27:52.440 --> 00:28:00.000 you know, comparing legitimate print because you know, I I 395 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:05.440 tried to cross reference the information that I had, you know, 396 00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:10.440 on other online services, and there's a lot of stuff 397 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.279 that I just can't trust. So I don't know, you know, 398 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.200 I guess I could probably send that to you, Vick, 399 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.039 if you're interested in it. 400 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.480 Oh, thanks for offering to send that, But yeah, I'm 401 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.559