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Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

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I'm your host, Matt. Legendary is such an odd term,

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but I want to use the term legendary because she

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started in this industry a while ago, which I'd like

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to get into right in the prime of my like

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going to the video store down the street and pretending

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you're eighteen years old and grabbing a copy of a

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DVD and then walking out there, she was right on

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front and center of it. A great show starts with

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a great guest, so let me introduce you to my

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friend for the evening. You'll know her from such films

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as Antal, Cougar Country and Double Penetration Tryouts three. You

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find links to everything she does, from social media to

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her own OnlyFans at Sadie Summers dot com, and links

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to all of that's going to be in the episode description.

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As always, my guest tonight, the stunning Sadie Summers. Thank

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you very much for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate

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your time.

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Speaker 3: So we are. I'm in the process of re branding

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this show.

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Speaker 1: My co host left not in a negative way, wanted

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to spend more time with his family, and I have

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excessive free time.

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Speaker 3: We still do our comedy show whatever.

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Speaker 1: When I saw Okay, Sadie Summers, you know, I spoke

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to your public system you could potentially get her on.

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And I do a little bit of the background on it, right,

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and I go, oh my god, this is Sadie Summers.

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Speaker 3: But this is someone else too, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: So I normally start these off by asking how you

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got into the adult entertainment industry, but this isn't like

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your first rodeo. You've actually had like two starts in

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your history. Would you might giving us a quick recap

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on how Toby Pacific, the performer from my heavy porn

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watching college days, went away and came back at Sadie Summers.

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Speaker 2: So if you know Sobi, you must have been into

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some really dirty stuff. Ye ye, well but I know, yeah, unfortnately,

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this is my second rodeo. So when I was nineteen

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years old, back from my little, tiny hometown, I essentially,

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when I was much younger, I found a movie that

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changed my life. And that movie was Behind the Green Door.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you've heard of it, Oh yes, I have, and

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I just.

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Speaker 2: Like became that I was fascinated with the fact that

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people would like do all these sexual acts on camera.

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And so when I was nineteen, I answered a Craigslist

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ad with the intention of doing porn and then away

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I went.

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Speaker 3: So, then let me ask you why leave?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting? Right? So at the time I was dating

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do you know anything about whitewater kayaking?

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Speaker 1: No, I thought you were going to say, do you

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know anything about pornography? In two thousand and nine, I

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was going to say, I know everything, Sadie, please continue

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water kayaking out of my lane.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's out of most people's lanes. It's a very

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niche sport. But I was dating a professional whitewater kayaker

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who we spent a lot of time traveling around a

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different mountaintown. So, like, aside from doing pornography, I'm really

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into mountain biking and hiking and skiing. I am like

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a whole other person outside of that, and we wanted

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to spend more time in little mountaintowns and with Barn,

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you have to really be in LA, and LA wasn't

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really our vibe at the time, so took a step out.

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But it's hard to get in when you're not doing

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it all the time. So it wasn't really an intentional break.

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It was like, I'm nineteen, twenty twenty one. I want

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to experiment and do everything from porn to mountain biking

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to whatever, and so it was kind of like that thing,

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just figuring out what I wanted to do, more than

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intentional retire.

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Speaker 1: So if you were in LA and they were looking

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for a performer and say you hadn't shot in a

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little while, is that something you would have considered at

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the time. But it just seemed to any time an

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opportunity came up, you were halfway up a mountain somewhere.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly it, right, and you have to be there

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to be able to take the last minute calls. And

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that wasn't a sacrifice. I was willing to make it

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the time, all the time. So that's it really boils

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down to that, Like if I would have been ready

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and available, I would have done it, but my circumstances

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kind of took me home for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you weren't one of these performers that left and

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you were like fuck the industry amount da da da D.

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Speaker 3: It was totally positive.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was really positive. And even when

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like I went and like led a normal civilian life

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and people would ask me about plorn. I wouldn't be like,

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oh my god, no, I can't believe it. I'm like, yeah,

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what seems you want to see? What do you want

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to ask you about? Like, I'm very proud of the

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fact I did it, So there was nothing negative at all.

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It was just I wanted to do other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do you talk about how you made money during that

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time while you were away? Were you shirpying people up mountains?

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Speaker 3: I was no.

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Speaker 2: I told people exactly. I've always even read like my

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like my mom and my dad, my family. I've always

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been really abuff word with everyone. I don't like lying.

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My memory is too bad to keep up with it.

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It's complicated, and like I am who I am, So

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I told everybody what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: How about okay, but how about after you quote unquote

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left you know, were you I mean, were you very

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lucky to be with someone who had tons of money

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or did you have to pursue another career after that?

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Speaker 3: And what was that like? Pursuing another career after that?

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Speaker 2: It was so I went into nursing, and like, I

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don't know if you know anything about nurses, but I

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feel like, we are severely overrepresented in the sex workspace.

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting. I know two things about nurses. I've

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never been able to make one laugh. I don't know

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what it is. Medical professionals will not fucking laugh at

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my jokes. And too, I dated a nursing college those

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vocab tests. In the first year, I couldn't pronounce ninety

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percent of the words she had to memorize. So perps

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to nurses, I give it up. Years are great. Doctors

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pop their heads in and go like, looks like cancer

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and then walk out. The nurses are in there doing

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the nitty gritty. So you actually you, I mean, that's

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very impressive. You go from you know now, I say this,

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and I don't say it from my point of view.

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You couldn't do what I do from my point of

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view and feel this way. So let me say that

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a lot of people have the impression of sex workers,

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porn stars, adult industry people whatever as like, oh, too

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lazy to go get a real job, Toom to go,

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kid Tom to get a real joh blah blah blah

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blah blah. Every One in the adult industry I've ever

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talked to could be marketers for you. Know fortune five

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hundred companies. It feels like there's people I've spoken to

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who are like, yeah, well, I was on the track

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from med school and then I just decided I'd rather

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make my money.

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Speaker 3: On my back. Good for you if it's out there.

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Speaker 1: For there is no guy sitting in an office nine

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to five with a fucking fluorescent light flickering over his

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head who wouldn't rather fuck to make money.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's the reality of the world. It's jealousness, it's

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whatever moral judgment however it is. So you went and

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you found a nice, quote unquote respectable job as a nurse.

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Speaker 3: What brings you back to the industry.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say it like that respectable, right, because

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it's almost like I want to turn that on its

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head so you'll have the general population. I'd be like, wow,

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like you're a nurse, like what an holding member of society?

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of care is not great. I can't take care of

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people the way I want. Like people are consistent in

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getting fucked by the medical system. I felt more like

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a whore than they did being a nurse. I ever

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have selling sex for money, and that I will take

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that to my grave, like I'm an intelligent human being,

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but they absolutely fuck you and you have no say,

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and you're dealing with people in the worst times of

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their lives and you don't have the tools to help

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them in the way you want. Like, it's just it's

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such a great profess to be in, but it's really

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soul sucking. I was going to ask you, how he

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as much of a helper as you want.

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Speaker 3: How exhausting is it? Though?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever slept better than a twelve hour shift

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after nursing?

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Speaker 2: It's so fucked because I can't sleep after them. I

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get home at six am, and you're just like, it's

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the daytime, and then it's I can't sleep in the

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day and so it's like it's so exhausting, but I

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also can't sleep after nursing. Ships.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, you moved back into the industry. What was said?

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Speaker 2: When?

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Speaker 3: Way did you just go one day? You're just like

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Speaker 1: Wait, let me, was there time between ending nursing and

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deciding to jump back into the industry.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm still a licensed nurse with a job. Okay,

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I don't really work it anymore. Like quite frankly, when

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fifteen years nursing, and that comes with, you know, like

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a certain amount of experience and stuff that I can

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offer to my different employers. So my wage was really high.

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both miserable. We got to do something else. He was

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an equipment operator in a gold mine, Like that is

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a fucked up job. So two weeks out of the

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month he would be gone and I'd be home with

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a kid, working and like trying to make shit happen,

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and it's like why are we doing this? Like you

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just feel like when did you wake up? And you're

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in the rat race? And he had always been a

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fan of Toby, so he knew who I was before

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we met. We met in a little ski town, which

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super cute story, but anyways, he was kind of like,

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you know, what can we do when I started talking

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about only fans together in twenty twenty two, and then

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it just evolved from there. He knew that I'm a

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talented adult performer, and he knew that there's something there.

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Speaker 1: So there was no part of me asking if it's personal,

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let me know. Is he in the industry or he

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was just a fan of you you prior to the industry.

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Speaker 2: He was a fan of me prior to the industry.

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He's in it now, okay, but mostly I don't want

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to say stunt cock, but that's really what it is.

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So he's in all of my like homemade OnlyFans videos.

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It's an exceptional performer. I want him to do more.

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Speaker 3: He's shy now, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I always love when when Portster's talk about relationships

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and stuff like that, they're okay. So he was a

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fan before, so obviously there is there an openness to

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your marriage outside of filming or is there a business

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and a personal aspect to it?

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Speaker 3: If I can ansy and like to.

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Speaker 2: Be I love talking about this because, like, honestly, and

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I'm just going to be really vulnerable. It's something we're

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still figuring out. So there's a level of openness. We're

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not open in the fact like when I come home,

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I'm not going out on dates and having sex outside

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of our marriage, but I also go on my work

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trips and I'm like, hey, Johnnyson, do you want to

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so I have this ability to be able to step

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outside my marriage in a very controlled environment. We're trying

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to figure out what that looks like on his end.

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So it's like he's not necessarily interested in doing proceedings

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or even collaborations with other talent, and so we're figuring

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out what are the ground rules of him dating outside

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of our marriage. I don't want a date outside, but

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I'd like him to date outside. Okay, it's it's honestly,

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it's so complicated. We're figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: Is it easier and I don't mean in a cheating way,

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Is it easier to just have the fucking outside of

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marriage than it is to have the dating outside of marriage?

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Speaker 3: I would assume. Yeah.

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it would be so great if you just have like

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a roster of girls ca me like come over and fuck,

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but unfortunately, like most women don't work that way. If

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you want to go on tender, it's like finding it,

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you know, there's like a little bit of dating, and

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it's not always me that's uncomfortable with it, it's also him.

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let's just like escort. He's like, no, I'm not into

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that either, And I understand that.

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it out, you have a really solid relationship, like solid

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ground for it to be on, because something may happen

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and one of you may decide, like, you know what,

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I didn't really like that. But it doesn't seem like

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just from talking to you the short amount of time

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I've talked to you, that that would be an earth

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shattering thing for your relationship.

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Speaker 2: It's not like even me for it, Like I'll be

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totally open. Like I had sex off of camera with

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a collaboration partner and that wasn't necessarily okay without like

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a prior discussion about it, but that's something we learned

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by doing it right. It's like I did a collaboration

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and then we were so into it we just kept

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fucking afterwards. And I was totally above board and honest.

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and I'm like, oh shit, you don't like that. So

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talk about sex, yeah, right, it's like it's complicated, but

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we're hot.

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Speaker 1: So again we're still establishing rules. But do we have

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anything that is on his quote unquote no list for

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you in terms of scenes? Is there something and I

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want to get to fetishes and kinks and stuff like

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that that you may be interested in or you may

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have lost interest in later on in the show. But

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is there anything for him where if you brought it

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to him, he might be like he might do by

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the way, I've done that same thing too, when you

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just kind of claim up and you get quiet, like

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Speaker 3: Oh, say to yeah that was nice. Yeah, no, good good,

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you had a good time. Yeah, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I can always tell the scenes he's really into like,

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he's not really into my when I do proceeds. He's

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not into my steps on stuff as much. He wants

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to see me dominated by like a big black hawk

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or somebody would like. He wants to see me dominated

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by someone presenting as a strong, solid man. He never

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wants to see doesn't like me as like the dom

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or the instigator, probably because he also knows me so

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well that he as I'm a sub and that's not

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my truest form. Sure, but I'd say there's really no nos.

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It's more like is he going to drip off to

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this or not? Okay, okay, all right, so that's my

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that's my pronicer.

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Speaker 1: Sure, so he has preferences for what now what? I

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guess that's what you just said.

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Speaker 3: Just a real.

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Speaker 1: Dominant, good looking guy really making you happy in that instance.

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Speaker 2: BBC, he loves right, And I think it's just because

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the contrast looks so hot, Like I take like huge

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clocks really well, even though I'm so small for some reason,

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just the way my body works, and so it looks

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like shocking and amazing, and then I'm enjoying it. So

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Speaker 1: Last question before we go to break. I've talked about

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this with other performers, and I'm always interested. You said

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you're naturally a sub, but I'm interesting in what I

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always look at it. There's two main types of gang

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bang scenes.

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Speaker 3: By the way, do you enjoy gang bang scenes or no?

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Speaker 2: I love them?

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Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: There's two types. There's one where Sadie is the ragged

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and almost like all due respect to you, being passed

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around like a flashlight at New year's party in a frat.

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Then there's the other one where you're somewhat more of

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the dom It's almost like you over here, you fill

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this one up.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a preference for those scenes and does

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that go back if you choose the first one to

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me more of your sub nature?

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Speaker 2: I think like, and this might be a cop like

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someone combining the two. So it's like, I'm not into

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being like passed around like a rag doll. Like to me,

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I hear like free use when you're saying that a

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little bit, but it's like, I know that's not the intention.

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it's like I want to be super submissive and passed around.

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But when they pass me around and I get on

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the dick, I know exactly what to do. I'm fucking

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like enthusiastic. I'm dominating the cock, but I'm submissive in

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like the next thing that's going to happen. They're going

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to put me there and they're going to take me there.

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I like being led by the guys in the scenes,

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but then when I'm there, it's like making the enthusiasm

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happen if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: No, that does that makes sense. Yeah, you're there in

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the submission. But at the same time, maybe if there's

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a lag, you go, hey, fellas Dick need it over here.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah. And I'm like an extreme like I'm like

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a confidence sub like I know what I want. So

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it's not happening. Yeah, they're like bring it over or

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like I'll know what to do, but I do like

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to let them leave.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very cool. We're gonna take a quick

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break and come right back. Remember you can go to

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Sadie Summers dot com to find everything she's done. Normally,

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I run through the list of plugs.

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Speaker 3: I go, oh, the Instagram is this, and the Twitter's this,

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and it's terrible when they're all different.

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Speaker 2: That's why we have this all right here.

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Speaker 3: But ladies and gentlemen, Sadie Summers dot com, we're gonna

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take a break. We will be right back.

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Speaker 4: When the world tells you to go away, stop leave,

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just come.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna play I said, what, we like.

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Speaker 2: You when you're any girls talks to you.

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Speaker 3: I said, what, I'm kind of obsessed with course cors Sadie.

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Speaker 1: I said, what is the world famous game show that

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no one's ever heard of?

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Speaker 3: It's very simple.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a ten second clip from you from

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a scene you were in and need you to identify

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what website or movie the clip is from, so multiple choys,

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So after each clip, I'll give you three options to

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choose from. We can also re listen to the clip

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as many times as you need to. Do you have

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any questions for me or you're at did play?

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm so ready, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: Okay, first clip that I have for you today, Sadie Summers.

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Speaker 2: Was just a little bit faster. I'm learning so much.

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What does it taste like? Diego?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Diego? We all want to know what does it

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taste like? Sadie?

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Speaker 1: Was that from the website anal only dot com? Caughtfapping

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dot com? Or brutal fisting dot com?

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Speaker 2: That is caught sapping with the lovery little many Diego Sanchez.

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Speaker 3: That is correct, That is correct.

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Speaker 2: That was a good scene. Yeah, Purple Lingerie?

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Speaker 3: Was it purple or red might have been purple. Okay,

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all right, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Number two, I need to know what website you shot

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this scene for, based solely on the audio stuff me

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full stuff me full stuff, me full, I believe was

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your exact quote.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna so it's either DP diva.

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Speaker 1: You okay, here are your choices A Evil Angel dot com,

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bet DP diva dot com or C B J Rowl

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dot com.

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Speaker 2: Fu. Oh fuck, it's not because that was just me

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and Romeo evil A. So I want to I actually

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I think it was Evil Angel. I think it was.

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Speaker 3: Ding ding Ding.

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Speaker 2: That is correct, boys, Rob.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So for future future advice, maybe I need to

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not have the person's name in it.

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Speaker 2: Uh did I say it? I think the first but

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Rob has like me and Rob Rob was also a

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little bit of a Toby have a need connection.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, then he may remember this scene this is from.

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I need the movie title, which is always so strange

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for you guys, because you could make a scene and

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it could get passed around to six different compilations, twenty

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five different compilations. Whatever it is. So the movie title

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for this clip, oh yes, it is what you fucking

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fucking us.

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Speaker 2: Sold for the title. Is that full Anal Nelson?

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Speaker 3: Let me give you your choices. No, no, no, no no,

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let me give you your choices.

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Speaker 1: A assault that ass nine, B Anal consumptions five or

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C the classic one of my favorite series of all time.

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Down the Hatch twenty.

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Speaker 3: A. It's a it is not it is in fact.

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Speaker 2: B Yes, it's the compilation. That's it. I'm on the

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box stepper. So I was going with sweet that too,

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but that one, I'm pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting. Yes, So all right, we've established that

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game does work.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to hear yourself really Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've never had that feeling before. But more power to you.

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So let's talk about Toby Pacific for a little bit.

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You said, when you start your career in twenty what

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is it two thousand and five, you start as Toby Pacific, right,

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I did? Okay, So that is my favorite era of content.

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Like if you look back at all of my favorite

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performance it's so funny. I've I've gone six weeks without

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getting laid in the last twenty two years. So I'm

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not a guy who's like hard up to you know.

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I met my wife when we were nineteen, after I

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got out of a relationship and it's just been off

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since then. But there's something I just enjoy about porn,

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and I've always enjoyed about porn. It's happy people, hot

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people doing fun things you know should be on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: So Toby Pacific.

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed a couple of people from quote unquote back

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in that day.

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Speaker 3: I've talked to Gauge, who I am a huge fan.

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She seems like Aura. I have not talked to Aurora.

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I would love to talk to Aurora. I'll give you

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my top fucking five right now of that time period

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if you want, Oh really, okay, number let's do five. Ready,

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let's let's go from five.

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Speaker 1: Uh Fay runaway number five, beautiful redhead, right no, no,

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Fay Reagan, Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. Number four is Gihonna Michaels.

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Number three. Now, these last three you're gonna be like, whoa,

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you pulled them out of nowhere? Heather slash Paris Gabe

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don't I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Okay.

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Speaker 1: She worked a lot with Extreme associates back then, and

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she took on a persona. It was when The Simple

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Life was big or whatever that show. She became okay,

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and number two would be Cammy Andrews. Okay, and number one,

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my all time favorite, all all time favorite is Gia Paloma.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna ask you, so, Geo, I've got

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some good stories. Gia Paloma as dirty, dirty, dirty girl.

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She was an exceptional performer. She loved the fuck. I

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never got to fuck her, but the guy I started

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in porn with wound up going to do a scene

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with her and two other girls. One of them was

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Derek Kay's wife at the time, Hannah. Oh yeah, so

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he was married to this gorgeous British girl name I

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forget what her last name was, Hannah. But Gia was

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just something I remember looking at her as like a young,

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younger performer, and like I wanted to emulate that, Like

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she was so hardcore, she would do everything.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of my question to you, and

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my question about that time.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny because if you look back at some

473
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,599
of the stuff that was going on at that time,

474
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,640
people might be like, oh, that's what warped their minds.

475
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:19,880
But no, I got a podcast interviewing porn stars. I

476
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,079
turned out great. What it was was the how how

477
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,000
I didn't like the real disgusting stuff. It's just not

478
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,440
my thing.

479
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,759
Speaker 2: But they're real disgusting. Is that like Max hardcore is like,

480
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:32,519
I'm all.

481
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,319
Speaker 3: Max Hardcore not my thing. I'm not. I'm not like

482
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,839
a vomit guy. I'm not like anything neither.

483
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: It's too much. I know some guys love it, it's not.

484
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,039
Speaker 3: It's not for me.

485
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: But like red light your thing, I don't know, what

486
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:46,599
is that? Red light district?

487
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: Oh, red light district A little you know, almost a

488
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,279
little too produced. I was more of like an extreme

489
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:57,160
associates guy. But what I always liked was a girl

490
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,920
like Giapaloma who It's like, no, I don't if in

491
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,640
your own fantasy, you know, that's what guys do. You

492
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,079
put yourself in the fantasy of it. I don't want

493
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960
to be like, oh my god, I would just slap

494
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,880
fuck her and blah blah blah blah blah.

495
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: No I wouldn't. I was a fucking loser. I still am.

496
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: What I do like, though, was all of the women

497
00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:20,559
back then their assertiveness towards sex. It was you know

498
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:22,480
I need this, now, come on, give it to me.

499
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,559
Dirty talk is a huge thing for me. I recently

500
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,079
got my wife thought dirty talking that's pretty great. But like,

501
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480
just the mouths on some of these girls back then

502
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,799
would make sailors blush and I like it.

503
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: I think that's why Sasha Gray did so well when

504
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,599
she came on the scene, because she was like this

505
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,960
little nineteen year old, but she talked like a fifty

506
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,160
year old melf and it's like fuck is coming out

507
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,759
of her mouth? Like her dirty talk was amazing.

508
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, Sasha Gray was, you know. I mean,

509
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,720
I could go down the list of all the girls

510
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:56,079
at the time, but it imprints you when you first

511
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720
get into Lisa's spark. So I believe I should be

512
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:03,599
interviewing at some point soon just you know the Queens's

513
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,559
that's what you all were, and you were right up

514
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,480
there on I swear to you. I got to go

515
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,839
back and look. I think one of the first DVDs

516
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,200
I ever bought had you on it.

517
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:13,799
Speaker 2: I love that so much.

518
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,519
Speaker 3: So let me ask you.

519
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: We talked about how extreme things were back then, right

520
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,359
two thousand and five to.

521
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four.

522
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,079
Speaker 1: What is different on a porn set, both either for

523
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,599
better or for worse? Like you show up on set

524
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,000
to shoot a scene, how different is it?

525
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: Twenty years later? Nineteen years later.

526
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: I'd say, like, honestly like the respectfulness. It's like both

527
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,200
like relatively the same. When I got into porn, I

528
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,839
thought it would beely senior than I was. I thought

529
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,000
I was going to have to fight off sexual assaults left,

530
00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:43,640
right and center.

531
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: It's not.

532
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,559
Speaker 2: But one of the biggest differences for me is the

533
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,400
overt discussion of consent and what is appropriate, And so

534
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,240
one big thing for me at nineteen years old, like

535
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,039
I didn't have this assertive voice. If we were doing

536
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,720
a scene and then all of a sudden someone was

537
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:02,720
doing something I didn't necessarily like like or felt good

538
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,440
in the scene, I would not stop and say cut,

539
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,279
like let's not do this. I would just like perform

540
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,960
through it and keep going because I wanted to make

541
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119
a banging scene. And I feel like, until you read

542
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,079
a certain age of your life, it's so hard to

543
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480
like speak up, especially in a crowd, when you're doing

544
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,759
this work. So I love the fact that on the

545
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,759
front end of shoots they do like a consent checklist

546
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:25,720
with you. Even some studios that you might think it

547
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,079
wouldn't do it. Some of the dirtiest ones will sit

548
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,839
there and go through like a body checklist. I'll be

549
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,720
your yes in your nose. But for me, it's so

550
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:36,559
good for like the younger generation of girls or even

551
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,759
older girls you haven't on their voices yet, to just

552
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,039
have that off the get go. Like for me, I

553
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,079
hate it, hate it when guys try to get me

554
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,440
the squirt. So for me, that's always been like a no.

555
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,720
But maybe I didn't always communicate that when I was nineteen.

556
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Now I would, but I always have the opportunity because

557
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,400
it's like an overt discussion. It was almost every single

558
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,559
studio you go to. And also you know, the performers

559
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:01,960
have a little bit more power with the fact that

560
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,079
they can just go to their only fans if they're

561
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,039
successful enough and make all their money. Like I love

562
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,240
making movies for studios. I love the production aspect. I

563
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640
don't need it if I don't.

564
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,599
Speaker 3: Want it, That's what I was. OnlyFans seems to have

565
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:20,240
and then all the other ones, fansily and all of

566
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,240
those have really seemed to kind of turn the power

567
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:24,559
lot it has.

568
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: And it's also given guys more agency. Like they used

569
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,039
to treat the men in the industry like shit. Their

570
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,720
day rates were terrible, the amount of work guys they're

571
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,119
expected to do for what you have to do is insane.

572
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:38,799
It's almost like they sometimes they're like, well, you're fucking

573
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,799
for money, you should be grateful. It's like no, like

574
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,160
some of these guys are taking men's they're fucking their

575
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440
bodies up. They're so stressed out, like, but now they're

576
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,200
getting famous in their own right and they can demand

577
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200
a day rate that is what girls' day rates used

578
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,400
to be back in the day. And I like them

579
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,599
having a bit more agency. It's been forced, and I'm

580
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,799
sure videos and directors probably have a beef with a

581
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,279
bit of that because they don't have as much authority

582
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,960
over the talent pool as he used to.

583
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, it's really like I said, it felt like

584
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,240
it turned everything on its head.

585
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: So I've interviewed so many performers who tell me like, yeah,

586
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:19,119
I like shooting with name sight, but really it's an

587
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,480
advertisement for my only fans, Like it's just you know, hey,

588
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,559
Sadie Summer's name is.

589
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: Out there now. Oh shit, that scene was great. Oh

590
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,119
I have a membership to that? Does she have an

591
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,680
only fans?

592
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: You know?

593
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: So? What was that again?

594
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: You you ever seen the movie Last from the Past

595
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,759
with Brendan Frasier, fuck you. Okay, all right, what was

596
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,519
it like walking out of your time capsule? That was

597
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960
this is how porn was into, This is how porn is.

598
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: It's like it's really just like the talent what they

599
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,720
say goes. If they want mgen testing monthly, they're gonna

600
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,160
fucking get it and if like so, it's kind of

601
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,519
it's like it's really like I stepped out into Like

602
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,240
it's almost as if.

603
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:06,359
Speaker 3: Like.

604
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,079
Speaker 2: You know, when like Ken goes out in Barbie World

605
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,240
and he realizes like the way things are, it's like

606
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:15,480
you walk out and it's like things are better for

607
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:16,319
the performers.

608
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was so happy.

609
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,839
Speaker 2: I was really happy to see that. It's like, God,

610
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,519
it's detriment in other places. I love studio production. I

611
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,279
like like porn production, the professional aspect of it. I

612
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,119
hate that it's kind of like going a little bit

613
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000
by the wayside. It's just the way it goes. But

614
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:39,119
it's really just like everyone that was performing had more

615
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,039
of a stay and what they were doing when how

616
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,039
and for how much money, and the studios had to conform.

617
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, we're gonna take one more break.

618
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We'll be back with one more game and we will

619
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wrap up with Sadie Summers. You can go to Sadie

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Summers dot com. Make sure you go there to follow

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We know how we push for that on this show.

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Make sure you go and pay for it. These people

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are working not for free, but for money, so make

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sure you push that sadisummony dot com. We're gonna take

626
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,359
a quick break. We will be right back.

627
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Speaker 3: All right, we're back, Sadie. I have one more game

641
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:07,240
for you here.

642
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm here with my guest for the night, Sadie Summers.

643
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,920
I almost said the host, the host for the night,

644
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,960
Sadie Summers. Let's go to our next game here, which

645
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,519
I'm again trying out for the first time. I call

646
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it because I'm so creative and intelligent and smart and

647
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,799
everything else.

648
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,079
Speaker 3: Porn words.

649
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:23,079
Speaker 2: Love it.

650
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but

651
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,160
the guests are porn stars and the answers are porn

652
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,880
categories or terms. So I'm going to give you a

653
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,559
clue on what the word could be, and your job

654
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,039
is just to tell me what the word is. Okay,

655
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,480
I can't say any form of the answer in my clues.

656
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,720
You can pass at any time, and if there's still

657
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,400
time on the clock, we'll go back to get the

658
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,119
ones you missed. Okay, not to be a hack or anything,

659
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,119
but you'll have sixty nine seconds on the clock and

660
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:03,640
ten terms. Figure out, Sadie, Do you have any questions.

661
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: Game? Okay?

662
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: All right, ten words. You're gonna have to figure out

663
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680
what they are based on my direction. You have one

664
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:19,240
minute and nine seconds on the clock. And go different

665
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:23,640
races of people in the scene in a rational two

666
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:24,559
in the same.

667
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Hole DV double badger, double animal.

668
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:32,079
Speaker 1: Keep going, keep going, double nailed it, okay, dressing up

669
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,680
like an animal. Free nailed it, got it, got it,

670
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:42,799
got it. Oral on a guy, y'all nailed it. Okay,

671
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:47,160
all right, I drank too much water now I have

672
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,440
to of course, nailed it. Pissing could have been the

673
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,119
same thing at number six. Don't pull it out and finish,

674
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,240
leave it in and Sami nailed it okay, related to me,

675
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,839
same age, but not by blood.

676
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 2: Oh stepsibly, let's fuck there.

677
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: You go a kink the broader term a kink. Uh,

678
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:13,079
he's really added to that.

679
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Nailed it okay, ten seconds left backdoor, Ana tied up, bondage,

680
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,880
nailed it, nailed it with five seconds to spare. I

681
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,719
ran that, but my disgusting pig co host former co

682
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,000
host yesterday and he got to like question seven, you

683
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:32,239
nailed it, you got it all.

684
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,559
Speaker 2: And nailed that. I loved it. I love it until

685
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,559
you got a dirty mine. Man. Another right job.

686
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,519
Speaker 1: Now for a tiebreaker, because I'm going to put different

687
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:44,239
girls up against each other with this stuff for tiebreaker.

688
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:49,920
According to IAFD the Internet Adult Film Database as of

689
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:53,639
this recording. How many male performers have you worked with?

690
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,199
Thirty seven fifty.

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Speaker 3: One little as Christian than you thought? Yeah, fifty one guys.

692
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: Where did you find that?

693
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:07,119
Speaker 5: Uh?

694
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: You don't know?

695
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh see, am I the only this is how this

696
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:12,800
is how creepy I am. I'm like looking at directors,

697
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,280
I'm like, oh, I really enjoyed that video. I a

698
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,000
FD is the Internet Adult Film Database like IMDb for movies.

699
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:24,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, the porn one.

700
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad as as rops.

701
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: There you go, So maybe we should Is there any

702
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,239
type of scene that in twenty twenty four you won't do?

703
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239
But we talked about discussing, take all the discussion.

704
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm not going to fuck a dog? Yeah

705
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:39,639
I know, Sadie, Thanks.

706
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, I actually I don't. I'm not into like

707
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
the double Badge or double metal for me, mostly look

708
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,519
like I can in visional world and when like which

709
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,599
that feels good, like rhythmically, logistically one cock in my

710
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,679
pussy and one in my ass feels so good. But

711
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,400
there's like a wall between them, and the wall's mine

712
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:02,039
against each other. I just yeah, double Badge and double

713
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,800
annals not for me. Pissing I used to be in you,

714
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,280
but for some reason, that's my Like somebody just offered

715
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,079
for me to go to the check and shoot, and

716
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,519
I would love to, but they really want me to

717
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,840
do pissing scenes. And I realized that's just something I

718
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,199
don't I have no interest in doing right now.

719
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,639
Speaker 1: No interest in doing at all, or no interest in

720
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,320
being pissed on, or no interest in pissing on someone.

721
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: I would love. I will piss on other people. Oh,

722
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,280
I just have no interest in being pissed on for

723
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,760
some reason. I used to want to when I was younger,

724
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,079
So it's interesting, like I want to explore that a bit,

725
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:35,800
maybe with my therapist or something. But why now It's

726
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,000
just it doesn't appeal to me.

727
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I always play a game, or I used to play

728
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,519
a game when I would do a different form of

729
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:43,960
this show where I would say, what is something, say

730
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,440
your normal rate is x amount? What is something you

731
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,199
would take a discount to shoot? A type of scene

732
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480
or a fetish or something where you're or a performer

733
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,599
you want whatever it is something you would take a

734
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:59,079
discount to shoot. And then something that dollar amount you

735
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,079
know it as a matter how high it is The

736
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,639
example I always use is Sarah Jay's never shot an

737
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,599
anal scene, and when I spoke to her, she said,

738
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,119
I've been offered ten thousand dollars to shoot this type

739
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:08,440
of scene.

740
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,519
Speaker 3: It's just not my interest. I have no interest in it.

741
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: And annals more of like a normal thing. Is there

742
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,840
anything that you now Producers that are listening to this,

743
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,800
don't think you get to shorter on this, but what

744
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:25,239
type of scene would you maybe consider possibly taking a

745
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,159
discount to shoot.

746
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: I'd say at this point, what I want to shoot

747
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,199
more than anything as a gang bang with like the

748
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,559
most amount of facials that I can possibly get, And

749
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,039
for me, that would be something I would actually take

750
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,320
a discount on because I know it's extremely expensive for

751
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,760
anybody to shoot that, especially when you're talking about every

752
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,320
load you're paying money for. Because I don't want guys

753
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,360
that are like Craigslist, Hey, come drop a load on

754
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,480
a cornser's face. I would like men that are professionals.

755
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,559
But I'd like to do a huge gang bang blukocky

756
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,920
scene and I would do shu discount. But like you said,

757
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,480
producers don't taken out of that, you know, for an example,

758
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,239
and then the ones I wouldn't do would be just

759
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,039
like what I said, pretty much like no amount of

760
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,679
money I think at this point, and how like my

761
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,360
professional integrity and how much I enjoy sex. I don't

762
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,159
want anything to fuck that up, So I only do

763
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
stuff I like and like. If I want more money,

764
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,920
I'll just go make.

765
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,159
Speaker 4: It do.

766
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,119
Speaker 1: So when I speak to new girls, they often hit

767
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239
me with the tough guy thing where they go, there's

768
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,119
nothing I wouldn't do.

769
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: You just set a price, all right out like that.

770
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,679
Speaker 2: But it's like you have to have a no list

771
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,880
or else your everybody's fucking normat like, don't don't.

772
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: It's funny I've created a topic for their no list

773
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,280
because when they say I would do anything, but I

774
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,480
just immediately say those two little words race play, and

775
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,559
they go no no, no, no no no no no no,

776
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,199
hold on not doing that, no no no. You came

777
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,360
from a time when race play was a little more prevalent.

778
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I dared I email done some of it myself, or

779
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,159
like you you know, said things to man that like

780
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,039
you would never utter in public. It's like now you

781
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,199
look back on it and you're like, holy fuck, I

782
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,039
can't believe like I had said those words. But the

783
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,239
funny thing is is I have so many like young

784
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,119
it's mostly like young black men in my only fans

785
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,320
who want that type of play. So I kind of

786
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,599
have this dilemma right now where it's like I don't

787
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:18,119
feel comfortable saying those words. But if the recipient is,

788
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,239
you know, the person who like the adjectives are representing,

789
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,559
and they're asking for it, does that make it okay?

790
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,440
And so I'm kind of like race plays a really

791
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,280
complicated topic for me because I ultimately just say no,

792
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,400
I'm not comfortable with that. But if like a young

793
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:38,079
black man is comfortable with it and he wants to

794
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,519
pay me to do that for him, that's his king.

795
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,760
Should I say it's? Should I say yes? Is it wrong?

796
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:45,360
I don't know?

797
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: I okay, Okay, all right.

798
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who's made some pretty racy jokes in

799
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,480
the past, not race or ACEE just kind of like

800
00:39:54,639 --> 00:40:00,559
out there and nutty, it's not it's not a good

801
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,800
time for it, which sounds like I'm like, you came

802
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,880
to me and you're asking for a promotion at your job.

803
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: My view is just not a good time.

804
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:13,079
Speaker 1: Regardless of the male on the other end, Young black

805
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,039
Eye going like, please say this, I'd want it.

806
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,679
Speaker 2: It's just that's why I feel like too, And that's

807
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:20,840
why ultimately i've said now because I just don't want

808
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,280
clips of me at this day and age saying anything

809
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,880
like that on the internet. So aside from me wanting

810
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,639
to fulfill someone's fantasy, because I'm kind of like that

811
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,079
in a way too, Like I love to be a

812
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:32,840
little bit if it's something I'm into a bit of

813
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,599
a sparing You're like, I want to flow your fantasy,

814
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,760
so I want to take care of you. But ultimately

815
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,880
those things are going to be out of me for

816
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:42,719
the rest of my life. And so I in mind

817
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,800
lool about this shit I say and with AI and

818
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,840
everything else.

819
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: Hey is a real problem by the.

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,639
Speaker 2: Way it is, and so it's just like it's complicated.

821
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920
But yeah, for me, I don't do race play right now.

822
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,639
But it's funny that that's the thing that you say,

823
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:58,000
and it probably the girl's probably stuttered because they're like, oh,

824
00:40:58,039 --> 00:40:59,599
wait a minute, I would not do it.

825
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

826
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

827
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,679
Speaker 1: There's a lot of girls who are a lot of

828
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,360
again newer girls I've talked to just coming into the

829
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,559
industry who are just gung ho as I'm sure all

830
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,400
of you ladies were when you first get in where

831
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,039
you're like, I'm a champ, I'll do whatever the and

832
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:13,360
they go.

833
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,519
Speaker 2: There's a bit of psychology too that I think though.

834
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,880
I think a lot of girls, like some girls, not

835
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000
a lot, but a majority, get into porn. There's a

836
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,119
bit of type personalities there, and they love a challenge

837
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,159
and as soon as a director or producer or another

838
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,559
coworker alludes to the fact that you can't do something,

839
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,960
they want to do it more. Which but they know this,

840
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,599
So there's a little bit of fuckery there right where

841
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,599
it's like, I'm going to make the girl competitive enough

842
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:43,320
that she actually wants to do this discussing thing. So

843
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,400
let's see it's fucked up. It's easier to do and

844
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,480
people that's going to kiss people off, but it's really

845
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:49,519
it's easier to do that with the younger crowd than

846
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:50,079
older one.

847
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,519
Speaker 1: Sure, oh well, yeah, they don't have the wisdom, they

848
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:56,039
don't have the experience. It's funny, do I remember did

849
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,199
you shoot a lot of like maybe not a lot,

850
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,800
but did you shoot like babysitters scenes and this and

851
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,440
that back when you were Toby Pacific.

852
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for Jim Power is still who's around to this day.

853
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,719
I would love to come back. I've been bugging him

854
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,239
to hire me.

855
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: I've I've interviewed Jim and he was I mean, you know.

856
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:17,119
Speaker 2: He's he's alleged babysitters camp nowhere I did with him,

857
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:19,880
I did. My best days on set were with him

858
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,039
and his crew. They're so fucking funny. They're the best.

859
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love talking to him.

860
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was great that one was one of

861
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,760
those interviews for me where it's like, I don't know

862
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,559
how many people are going to watch this, but I

863
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:31,800
gotta talk to Jim Powers.

864
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:33,639
Speaker 2: It's I'm gonna go back and want I'm going to

865
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,159
watch that one of yours now because I so much.

866
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,599
Speaker 3: I do too. I love him.

867
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: It's funny you jumped right from I don't know what

868
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,159
the term was back then, teeny bopperish type of look

869
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,880
go away for a little while, Oh.

870
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: MILFs here time to go. Did you embrace taking on

871
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,679
the mill roll.

872
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: When you came back to the industry where or did

873
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,119
you have any little bit in you like you still

874
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,719
look phenomenal and you still link younger, which is funny

875
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,320
because in porn, if you hit twenty four and you

876
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,280
know you look twenty Immediately, yeah, exactly, they'll immediately start

877
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,159
labeling you as that.

878
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: So it is. I embraced it one hundred percent, Like

879
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,639
I noticed. You know, something I've noticed is like Angela

880
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,639
White will never be referred to as a mouth, not yet.

881
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,840
And that's me is so curious because she's in the

882
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,599
age range, like she's marketing herself that she knows that's

883
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,760
on her space. Yet me going into it, I'm like,

884
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,840
I know this is my niche I know this is

885
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,239
my space, especially considering like you're saying you hit twenty four,

886
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,039
you're a mel I liked it. I'm like such a

887
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,000
loving nurture that I felt like it served me better.

888
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,760
Toby was very like punked chip on her shoulder. I

889
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,559
love to do all this dirty, crazy shit because I can,

890
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,760
but like Sadie's so intentional and just yeah, it's it's different.

891
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 1: Sure we're going to wrap this one up, folks. I

892
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,280
want to remind you go to Sadie Summers dot com.

893
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,800
Uh make sure you follow her everywhere, cause nothing to

894
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:03,199
follow Sadie, but I want yeah, there you go. I

895
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,119
want you to go to our only fans too, And

896
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,159
I'm really going to push that this season where again,

897
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,199
these are performers.

898
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,559
Speaker 3: Every little bit you could throw at them.

899
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:14,079
Speaker 2: Well, why don't we set them on. Let's set them

900
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:18,400
up with a discounting. We did that, Yes, just going deeper.

901
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,840
So when you hear hear it, come on over Going

902
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,159
Deeper and we'll give you a free trial.

903
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:24,119
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

904
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 1: On in I'll put links to everything in the episode description,

905
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:31,159
so make sure you check that out. Ladies and gentlemen,

906
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:33,960
Sadie Summers, thank you very much for coming on with me.

907
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: Thank you so mu