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<v Speaker 1>This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Dungeon Anarchists cookbook Dungeon Crawler Carl Book three,

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<v Speaker 1>chapters three, four, and five. In these chapters, our friends

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to untangle the Iron Tangle with mixed results.

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<v Speaker 1>They do get an advantage, but that dude is dead

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<v Speaker 1>now probably I'm unclear on how this thing works. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>These this Okay, I'm gonna start something off or start

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<v Speaker 1>this off by saying something.

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<v Speaker 2>That I don't know if it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>A criticism exactly, because I feel like there is a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that it will all make.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just have to start it off because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a bit of a way about it and

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<v Speaker 1>I will acknowledge you guys like warned me. And also

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<v Speaker 1>there's the uh the intro of this book where the

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<v Speaker 1>author lets me know, I don't need to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going on with this line and try and

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<v Speaker 1>like understand it because it's meant to be pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>impenetrable to the reader. It's them working with the actual information,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we don't get given every single little detail.

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<v Speaker 1>So I acknowledge that you know, you guys warned me

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and that he himself warned me about this,

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to say, I think if we're not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to figure it out, there is too much focus

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I think that there is. The focus would

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<v Speaker 1>have been fine if it were just like our people

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<v Speaker 1>sort of spitballing ideas and it were a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit less like literally info dumping.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel that maybe, and this may be incorrect,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe the author wound up having to put that

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<v Speaker 1>intro in because he found that people were focusing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too much on trying to like solve the

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<v Speaker 1>tangle itself and realized that it was like distracting from

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<v Speaker 1>the story itself. And I would argue, maybe then the

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<v Speaker 1>solution isn't to just put the intro and warn us,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>You should edit some of it. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the publishing situation is with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you guys have said that it's self published,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that there's a lot of controversy about

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<v Speaker 1>publishing something that's already gone up and whether or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get not really wanting to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does just feel like the disclaimer is admitting kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a problem with the material actually to me, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to know that I don't need to puzzle

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<v Speaker 1>all of this out, because that would be very distracting

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us for this recording, for the whole series,

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<v Speaker 1>for the book. But at the moment, it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like we're being given so much heavy detail on certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that.

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<v Speaker 1>I when I know that it's not something that I

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<v Speaker 1>can really do anything with, I sort of glaze until

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the end of that little section of info.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? So I don't, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>may there may come a point with this story where

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<v Speaker 1>I change my mind and I'm like, Okay, now I

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<v Speaker 1>get why it was done this way. But at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just feeling a little bit tedious all of the

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<v Speaker 1>colors and numbers that are being thrown at us if

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<v Speaker 1>we don't actually need to do anything with them. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's the point. Maybe it's supposed to be. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the information that is getting thrown at them

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<v Speaker 1>and how confusing it is, and that's you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair. I just am as I go along. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the point of this show, right is for me to

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<v Speaker 1>share how I'm feeling in the moments that I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>the chapters that I'm reading. So that is how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling right now. Arezu says, yeah, there are parts with

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessary details. Rob says, without spoiling it does become significantly

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<v Speaker 1>more clear, but I would encourage you to revisit how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about it at the end of the book. Oh, unavoidable,

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<v Speaker 1>that's of course happening. Arazu says it came out chapter

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<v Speaker 1>by chapter originally. Rob says glazing is totally okay. Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Fem says, I don't see it as a problem. This

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<v Speaker 1>is meant to be incredibly confusing in verse and something

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<v Speaker 1>the Crawlers have to figure out. Michael says worth, noting

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<v Speaker 1>that we are feeling the confusion of the characters too.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob says this is a hard one not to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about more and miss t says that's how I took it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's confusing to the Crawlers. I agree, and I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just think that there was a way to

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<v Speaker 1>the detail that he goes into, and maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there and i'll read you the section that's

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<v Speaker 1>like stands out to me. So chapter thirteen opens with

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<v Speaker 1>them entering their private space and setting things up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that immediately donuts door is purple. The writing

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<v Speaker 1>that labels her door is purple. It's a real sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing the chat. Michael says, thirteen, question Mark, did

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<v Speaker 1>I say chapter thirteen?

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<v Speaker 1>I must have said chapter thirteen. Sorry, guys, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was my bad. My brain is all

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, and I'll say this too, just a

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<v Speaker 1>real quick aside on that. I also just have an

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<v Speaker 2>In the audiobook. But I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the dyscalculia I think is how or discalculia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically the numbers version of dyslexia, where I will

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<v Speaker 1>look at a page of numbers and it literally looks

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<v Speaker 1>for me like they are moving around. It is really

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<v Speaker 1>fucking frustrating and unnerving, and like if I have to

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<v Speaker 1>I enter them into the database, because if I try

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<v Speaker 1>I will invert the numbers. I will do crazy things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that might also be part of it. Is

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<v Speaker 1>just personally, numbers blow balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that for some people they provide a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comfort in their solidity, consistency, and meaning, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is something I am that exists for people, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>My comfort is language, which is funny because it is

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<v Speaker 1>the least consistent bullshit ever, and yet something about that speaks.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So Doughnut, like I said, has the purple

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<v Speaker 1>label and the purple door because she's a girl after

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<v Speaker 1>my own heart who is almost immediately starting to customize

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<v Speaker 1>the whole space to just look a little bit nicer.

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<v Speaker 1>This reminded me a little bit of when I was

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<v Speaker 1>first married and I was traveling with my then husband,

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me to come with him because he was

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<v Speaker 1>going somewhere we'd wanted to visit. And I came in

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<v Speaker 1>like unpacked everything and.

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<v Speaker 2>Set up little areas.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his spot for getting ready, my spot for

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready, a place to put our shoes, where did

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<v Speaker 1>we hang up our robes on our you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. And he was just standing by the door

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<v Speaker 1>watching me do it and just goes, wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>way home than when I travel by myself. This is nice.

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<v Speaker 1>We just you know, there are some people that this

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<v Speaker 1>is our thing and it's me and Dona to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>As I have said before, Mordecai also is very excited

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a room for him because they have

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded to five and that means that he gets his

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<v Speaker 1>own little compartment. Otherwise he'd be sleeping on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm very happy for him about. That's nice. And

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen it says food upgrades not yet purchased, but

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<v Speaker 1>as we've heard, there are things that like once you

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<v Speaker 1>cook in there will give you some upgrades and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>which is nice. Crafting Studio has an upgrade possible. You

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<v Speaker 1>may apply this upgrade in the common area. If you

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<v Speaker 1>disengage your space, the upgrade will be returned.

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<v Speaker 2>To your library.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there is the training room, which is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Into play a little bit later, but they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>practice inside.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't practice magical stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's something I just like there being

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<v Speaker 1>any increase in space where our friends are safe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any addition of new places that they can go where

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<v Speaker 1>they can do things for their own betterment out of

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking actual dungeon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm into it. So let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Mordecai explains about all of the things that they basically

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<v Speaker 1>skipped that they would have had to purchase one space

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<v Speaker 1>where you can, like you have to set it so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can share it. It's way smaller and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just one room other than the crafting studio. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this place is as big as it is. He's thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>there's even a possibility that we could like add a

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<v Speaker 1>second floor to this place, which is pretty interesting. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious about how all that works.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some.

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<v Speaker 1>Games where like you can have a second floor, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also need to build the staircase to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>so the floor will if you don't know that before

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, the floor will just be up there inaccessible.

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<v Speaker 1>It would just be kind of funny, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And he says that there are other helpers that they

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<v Speaker 1>can employ which is really interesting. I'm curious, like who

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<v Speaker 1>they can get. I'm assuming somebody to cook maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and would they live with them or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just I have a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this. ARESI says Sims Flashbacks. I have

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<v Speaker 1>never played the Sims you guys, and like everything I

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<v Speaker 1>see of it, it looks like it would be actual

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<v Speaker 1>crack cocaine to me. So I have avoided it because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need another thing gluing me to a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>I already have the tendency to remain way to inert

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the day. You know, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>do things that get me moving more. But everything I

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<v Speaker 1>see of it, I'm like, oh, that looks so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to do that, and I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I can't jump in, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Michael says roller Coaster Tycoon for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>would make rides that ended in enclosed areas guests could leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob says there's a subgenre of web novel progression slash

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<v Speaker 1>RPG fantasy that is base building stuff, and while it's

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<v Speaker 1>not super my jam when it's the primary focus, it's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fun. When it's a small little bit like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I almost want more of it. Michael, free food

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<v Speaker 1>and drinks, but bathrooms cost fifty bucks, right, Yeah, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things are just kind of fun in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that like, I understand Carl's lack of interest, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even get him choosing his door or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>He just places a door right next.

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<v Speaker 1>To where Donuts is and it's not even mentioned what

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<v Speaker 1>his door looks like. That's how little he gives a shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But a part of me is like, can.

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<v Speaker 2>We please get donuts?

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<v Speaker 2>So. Oh sorry, guys, I kicked a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Toy that I didn't realize was under my desk and

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<v Speaker 1>that was very loud. So this is when Carl has

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<v Speaker 1>And what we see at least here is that it

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<v Speaker 1>And he wakes up feeling like he has slept a

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<v Speaker 1>this bed consistently, a buff of ten percent to base

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that sounds pretty good. I as long as

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<v Speaker 2>Seems to like, as long as it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've said before, and this is the thing, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many things in life that are simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>those things for me is showering I love being showered.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all a fucking chore.

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<v Speaker 1>Ugh. And sleep falls squarely into this for me, where

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<v Speaker 1>sleep is amazing and I love sleeping, but also I

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<v Speaker 1>a non negotiable, and especially that sleep is like during

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<v Speaker 1>the time that a lot of us have to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like when we're at home and we

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<v Speaker 1>to get the most out of the little free time

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, and that inevitably winds up fucking us

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<v Speaker 1>the next day. But it's just this like desire to

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze out everything you can from the time you've got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So anyway, I just if this works as

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<v Speaker 1>well as it appears.

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<v Speaker 2>I am real, real jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he feels amazing and goes out there to

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<v Speaker 1>see that when Dita made them all food, poor Mordecai

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<v Speaker 1>has a big plate full of dead bugs, which is

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<v Speaker 1>he does not look happy about it. I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she made this clearly because of the race that he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't help but wonder if, like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>took a bite, would you suddenly be like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>That you are or are you not?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that you're what you eat not depend on your race?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if he tried to eat pizza, would it do

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<v Speaker 1>something bad because now he is this toad thing and

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<v Speaker 1>toads don't eat pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>Just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this description too, of the way that they

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<v Speaker 1>are showing them. The Iron Tangle with like weird mixed

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<v Speaker 1>up footage of real life and also movies and video games.

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<v Speaker 1>It included stills from the animated movie The Polar Express

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<v Speaker 1>and a bizarrely long sequence of a beat up John

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<v Speaker 1>Travolta riding the subway from the movie Saturday Night Fever

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<v Speaker 1>while the Beg's played in the background, which just in aside,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've never seen Saturday Night Fever. I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>movie so much, and it's so frustrating because the way

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about it makes it sound like it's

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<v Speaker 1>this riporin fun dance movie, and it's actually one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most depressing examinations of like poverty and the futility

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<v Speaker 1>of many people's lives and situations in their attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>like better themselves or advance in society. And it also

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<v Speaker 1>has this very unexpected and not at all dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault that is terrible. So I would just say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that movie seems fun and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to throw it on for like a fun girls night

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<v Speaker 1>with her friends, rethink it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very The whole zeitgeist around that movie was

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<v Speaker 1>very misleading to me. So let's see, the show was

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<v Speaker 1>going on and on about trains. Mordecai started rambling about

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining a schedule, and he wants Carl to train his

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<v Speaker 1>smush skill. And there's also a big part of this

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<v Speaker 1>that is redacted because they don't want the crawlers to

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<v Speaker 1>actually see how the level works, which Mordecai says, that's

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<v Speaker 1>basically from here on out what it's going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>because they will want to hide stuff about the levels. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael says, h only thing I knew about the movie

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<v Speaker 1>was traveled to doing that hand in the air hip

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<v Speaker 1>thrust dance move, and that's kind of what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's circulated, and it makes it look like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun, glittery movie about.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing, and that is not the case. It is not.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Katya.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I really like the way that Katya is

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<v Speaker 1>written because there is nothing about her that I dislike.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just every time she speaks, it's about the daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's just really obviously like in constant contact in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that reminds us every single time that she

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<v Speaker 1>opens her mouth that she really isn't part of their

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<v Speaker 1>party really.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't begrudge her that, you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>she's being smart. Honestly, I feel she's an asset to

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<v Speaker 1>the team in terms of what she can do, but

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<v Speaker 1>she obviously doesn't really have the instinct to do what

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<v Speaker 1>she's built for, and that's a problem. So her skill

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<v Speaker 1>set is something that I'm like, yeah, we should hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto that, But I can't fully endorse her because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like she's she's doing her best. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>does training on some of her things, and later on

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<v Speaker 1>she does this weird like popeye transformation to her body

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<v Speaker 1>that is very helpful, But there is something about her

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<v Speaker 1>hesitancy that it feels is never really going to go away.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it you know, if she got more practice and

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<v Speaker 1>now that she's leveled up so much, maybe it will

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<v Speaker 1>begin to be that she starts growing in her confidence

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<v Speaker 1>and she's able to like do more with the skills.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming from her the kind of like hunger that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel from Carl and Dona, where it seems like they

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<v Speaker 1>are so focused on like getting ahead in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that's about their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pushing themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And Katya it seems like she depended a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>the daughters and is in constant contact with them in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that feels to me like she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to being in a group where she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to pull her weight quite so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which in a smaller group it is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure. But yeah, it's I'm in this weird place

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<v Speaker 1>where I like her fine, and I understand where she's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, but I am also a little impatient with

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<v Speaker 1>her as a person, and I am waiting for this

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<v Speaker 1>shoe to drop because she will bounce as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>she can. And I worry about our friends being too

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on her skills and then her suddenly, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deciding to fuck off, and now they have to rework

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<v Speaker 1>some of the strategies that they've grown to depend on

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't have the tank anymore. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>when he starts collecting the information from Mordecai about what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw when he first got there and when he

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<v Speaker 1>was at a different train station. It was stationed number

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<v Speaker 1>three seventeen. The two smaller trains were the Yellow and

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<v Speaker 1>Emerald line, and the big one was called the Misery.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably start charting this out. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>another one of those dry erase boards. I have one

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<v Speaker 1>more in my room. I'll get it and start putting

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<v Speaker 1>it all down. So far we only have the Yellow

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<v Speaker 1>Line in common. Talk to your friend Brandon and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where he is. As soon as you come across

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<v Speaker 1>any other crawlers, get all the other info you can

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<v Speaker 1>from them, and we find out quite shortly what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Brandon. We will get there in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>First we have to go through the top ten list.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go through it's this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the usual suspects here. But there is just a really

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<v Speaker 1>important mention of how Missus mcgibbons is a frost maiden now,

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<v Speaker 1>so she is this blue skinned elf thing that he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that he didn't recognize with her, and that Lee

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<v Speaker 1>June is a street monk class, which is dope.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we saw buff heckliskewering a mass of four legged

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<v Speaker 1>rat things with her crossbow. Then Lucia Amar, who was

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<v Speaker 1>simultaneously terrifying and badass as ever, it showed the disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>witch form of Lucia or Lucilla Tip, literally ripping the

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<v Speaker 1>head off one of the Jinkininki Janitor ghouls. The girl

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<v Speaker 1>laughed maniacally as blood showered the interior of the train car.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we get to see all of their bounties,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are told later that the people on the

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<v Speaker 1>leader board can also participate in the bounty hunting and

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<v Speaker 1>if they manage to survive to the next floor, they

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<v Speaker 1>get a portion of their bounty as like a bonus,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get a.

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<v Speaker 2>Box loop box.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of fun, even though, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting bounties on them is fucked up and terrible. I

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of like, well, that's you know, there's even

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<v Speaker 1>more perks than just the fact that you have stayed alive.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when Carl opens his chat and it's interrupted

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<v Speaker 1>by the announcements about this floor and what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>That there won't be early.

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<v Speaker 1>Cross through to the fifth floor. Will the stairwells are

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<v Speaker 1>only going to actually open six hours prior to collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>Patron bidding is active and we are happy with the results.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get a notification when your bidding has concluded. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is when she explains the bounties. And then finally,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like to address this the especially high mortality rate

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<v Speaker 1>of the third floor. This occurred due to a high

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<v Speaker 1>instance of group quests gone bad. While the number of

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<v Speaker 1>crawlers are still in the acceptable range, we are all

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about early extinction. That does not mean we will

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<v Speaker 1>be letting up. So quit sucking. It's as simple as that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, ride the rails and kill, kill, kill,

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<v Speaker 1>Quit sucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Katya asked, is that supposed to be a joke? I

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually like kind of perfect, because you know how many

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<v Speaker 1>things out there that are like slowly destroying us.

427
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Do we just like.

428
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 1>And I say we, I mean more like powerful companies

429
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>just think like I get points for simply acknowledging that,

430
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and then I don't do anything about it, and I

431
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>don't change anything, and I kind of still.

432
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Blame you for it.

433
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that I acknowledged it is supposed to

434
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:20.799
<v Speaker 1>be something.

435
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>This is just it.

436
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>We're all worried about early extinction, but not really, not

437
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that worried, not actually like worried, worried, just we're we

438
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 1>We just want you to know that we noticed and

439
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>we get it. But also, fuck you, this is just familiar,

440
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying. And finally, after she finishes, Carl

441
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>can see that the message from Brandon it's it's I

442
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>knew as soon as it says the I finally noticed

443
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the name of the folder in the top corner of

444
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>my interface, and as he was saying earlier that it

445
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>was in a weird folder that I hadn't seen before,

446
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I immediately was like, oh, that's that's dead people messages

447
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 1>like I just fucking knew, and he gets so he

448
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 1>gets hit so hard with this. There's something too. I'm

449
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>looking at the text and it's done in such a

450
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>way that there's online crossing through his name, which you know,

451
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's no way to really get that in audiobook,

452
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and that is a quite a good choice, I think. So,

453
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 1>I uh, this whole thing with him dying, it's such

454
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 1>a combo of things. I was talking about this with

455
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody on the discord the other day and like, don't

456
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, I know that this isn't really the

457
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>same thing, but like Brandon and Carl, they work together

458
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 1>for a short time, they had met in person, and

459
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 1>they are part of this like collective trauma from this dungeon.

460
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's a very different thing. But it just made

461
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 1>me think of how odd grief can be and the

462
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>special set of circumstances that can happen where even somebody

463
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't know that well or who maybe personally

464
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like super important in your life, you know what

465
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, how their deaths can be oddly impactful in

466
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a way that you would not have expected. If somebody

467
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>told you in a vacuum, oh, by the way, so

468
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and so dies it's whatever time, you'd probably think like, oh, wow,

469
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that sucks and is tragic. But you know, I'm not

470
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 1>really that close with them, or we never even met

471
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in person or whatever. And there's been kind of a

472
00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 1>spate recently of people that I know secondhand or as

473
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>influencers who have died, and the odd quality of what

474
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it feels like because it's like a parasocial relationship, so

475
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know them, but I admired them for

476
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was that they were doing, and I just

477
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like it helped me to contextualize this moment a

478
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit because they didn't know each other that well,

479
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 1>but they bonded over doing the right thing in a

480
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>way a lot of people wouldn't have done it. And

481
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it's also the only person from the group that he

482
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>had in his chat, which he says later is very

483
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 1>stupid of him. And I have to agree, I understand

484
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>having the one contact person, but I fully thought that

485
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 1>he had options to contact others and this was just

486
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the person he was friendliest with, you know. And he

487
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>is about to like he's sending this message right before

488
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the third floor is about to collapse and they are

489
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>trapped somewhere, so he knows that they're not getting out,

490
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and he explains that he had a really bad fight

491
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 1>with his brother Chris, and he left and took some

492
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of the guys with him, and they were in a

493
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 1>separate party and he can see that those dudes are

494
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 1>all dead, but Chris isn't. However, it says that Chris

495
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 1>can't accept any new messages, which he suspects is because

496
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Chris blocked him, which I've got to say that must

497
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>have been a hell of a fight, because in this situation,

498
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to actually block your own brother and make it so

499
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that he can't even reach out to you in moments

500
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 1>of extreme emergency is a choice, like, I don't that

501
00:31:52.599 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is pretty aggressive. And he says something about how Mom

502
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 1>used to say that he was slow, but he ain't slow,

503
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and even if he was, I said something stupid and

504
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>he got mad.

505
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And I am.

506
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Super curious what it was that he said, because it's

507
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>easy for me to imagine that he said something insulting

508
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to his brother based on the context of that, but

509
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>also it's possible that he just said something like declarative

510
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 1>about drawing a line in the sand, about an action,

511
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.119
<v Speaker 1>and his brother was just like, you're being an idiot,

512
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>you know. And the whole like tone of this is

513
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 1>I fucked up by alienating him. I love him and

514
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it is the only thing that mattered, and I completely

515
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>lost sight of that. And I never said to him

516
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that I love him and it's all I can think about.

517
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>So please, if you find him, let him know I

518
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>sent this message also to.

519
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Who else?

520
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Does he say, I'm sorry, I'm trying to find the

521
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>spot because he mentions that he has sent the same

522
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>message to two.

523
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Other people but I can't find it.

524
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course, tell him, I said, if there's an afterlife,

525
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I promise not to give him shit ever again. He

526
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 1>can eat all the Damn Traveler biscuits he wants. I

527
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>promise not to get mad about him taking risks, not

528
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 1>about girls, not about him stealing my matchbox cars, nothing,

529
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and tell him I love him. That's the most important part.

530
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 1>It's always been the most important part, but I didn't

531
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 1>realize it until it was too late.

532
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go.

533
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Damn Shade Gremlins, get them for me, Brother, get them all.

534
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 2>And then the AI.

535
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>This message is from a diseased, deceased Crawler. When you

536
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>close this message, the crawler will be removed from your

537
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>message list.

538
00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Hey, at least you're still.

539
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And we come back to Carl, who is just reeling,

540
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and he decides to go into the training room and

541
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>train his bare knuckle skill because he is very, very

542
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>angry and needs to take that out on something which

543
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I respect. And then chapter four begins with it had

544
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>been several hours since I'd beaten my knuckles raw on

545
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>the wooden dummies. Both Donut and Kotia entered the training

546
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 1>room about twenty minutes after I did. Doughnut worked on

547
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>her dodge skill, bouncing back and forth while the hologram

548
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 1>of a forearmed monster holding four whips lashed at her.

549
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Kotia was on the other side of the room doing

550
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>something similar, but instead she was jumping in front of

551
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.199
<v Speaker 1>rocks as they were being tossed at a holographic puppy

552
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>by the same forearmed virtual opponent.

553
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>If I were.

554
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Motivated to protect a puppy, oh, it would be really rough, guys,

555
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that would be tough. I would really put myself in

556
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>harm's way. I really, I mean I have, I actively have.

557
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>So.

558
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Mordecai then tells him about the three tables. He says,

559
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>get them set up. I want you to basically like

560
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 1>empty all of the stuff out of your pockets that

561
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>is labeled as an alchemical supply, and while you're out,

562
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I will begin assembling these things into stuff, which, as

563
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>we know from the past, results in Carl getting the

564
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 1>recipe for the thing, which is nice. Well, he gets

565
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the recipe if he makes it according to Mordecai's instructions.

566
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 1>But I imagine Mordecai is going to see what he

567
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 1>can work with and like save things, so that, okay,

568
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>this is that recipe. In that way, Carl can come

569
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>back and assemble things that are already like figured out.

570
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>And then he let's see, he has the Sappers table, which, guys,

571
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>is that for blowing up stuff? I can't remember what

572
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Sapper's table even means, and I heard it so much

573
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>in this chapter it began to lose all meaning to me.

574
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And then the engineering table is where he uses a

575
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>shaping tool to mess with a huge chunk of metal,

576
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and this becomes essential later when he uses it to

577
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 1>jam open the our jam the space for these creatures

578
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that try and get on the train, so that they

579
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>can't get past. It becomes like this, basically like a

580
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>closed door.

581
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 2>They're telling me, yes.

582
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 1>It's bomb building sappers, where the people charge with bringing

583
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>down enemy fortications, usually via big booms a seraphim Okay,

584
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why it's called SAP like sapper like did

585
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>they use actual sap? Is that why or is it

586
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like you're sapping the enemy's energy or supplies or like

587
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>what you know? Anyway, etymology, So we have him crafting

588
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>this thing and getting a Martha Stewart achievement where I

589
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>came really close to feeling called out, but not quite.

590
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>You used a workbench to craft for the first time.

591
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>The next thing you know, you'll be fashioning bottle cap earrings,

592
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>drinking oat milk, and selling your ugly crap on Etsy

593
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>while you wax poetic on Instagram about your journey and

594
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>look as somebody who is trying to open an Etsy

595
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>store and working on building the stuff that she has

596
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>made into actual sellable objects. I am on a journey

597
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 1>and I will probably talk about it on Instagram. However,

598
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I drink regular milk, although oat milk is pretty good,

599
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta admit, and I don't make bottle cap earrings.

600
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, it was a personal attack, so

601
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what can you do? It is so funny, guys,

602
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>because like, it makes sense why so many people make

603
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 1>and sell on Etsy, because it feels like an outlet

604
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 1>for creativity, a potential side hustle, you know. But I

605
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>think that if people don't know, they think it's a

606
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>lot easier than it is. And let me tell you,

607
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>as somebody who's just in the beginning stages of doing

608
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>all this, it's so much work. If you want to

609
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>do this, you better really want it, and you better

610
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>have a plan, because without a plan, it is so

611
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 1>easy to get caught up in silly details and like

612
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>completely miss the forest.

613
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>For the trees. So let's see.

614
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he mentioned to Mordecai about having talked to Batista.

615
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>He is on the Azure and Brown line their station

616
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 1>one ninety nine. They don't have a non colored line

617
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>at their station, but they're going to the Azure line today.

618
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>He also got a fancy base thanks to that upgrade.

619
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And they all do their like buff stuff shower and

620
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 1>they go out into the world. And the first thing

621
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>they do is stop at Limb Richard's little shop, and

622
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>there's this thing called a battery fabricator that is seventy

623
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 1>five thousand gold, which Carl is like, oh my god,

624
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I really want this, but I genuinely don't really know

625
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>what I would do with it yet, and it's possible

626
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that its description isn't super accurate, and for this price,

627
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't really think that I can justify it,

628
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 1>but it's on his mind and I can't help. But

629
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>wonder if there's going to come a time where it's like,

630
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>if you give me enough books, you can have it.

631
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe he'll sent on like a quest, which

632
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>would be kind of fun. And the what it comes

633
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 1>down to in this scene is him explaining that, like,

634
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 1>because of the status that he holds in this place,

635
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get access to the entertainment action stuff like

636
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 1>movies and TV shows. All he gets is physical media,

637
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>which means books and comics. And he only has fifteen

638
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>books right now and he has clearly gotten sick of them.

639
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the books has like the last few chapters

640
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>pulled out, and I was sort of expecting that Carl

641
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>was going to be like because he says that he

642
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 1>had read that one. I was like, is he just

643
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna like offer to tell him how it ends, since

644
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>he's probably read up unto a certain point many times

645
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and is desperate to know what happens in the end.

646
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But Uh, it doesn't come up. I feel like I

647
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>might have used that, but I don't know. Maybe something

648
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>else will happen with that later, or maybe he will

649
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>find the missing chapters for him as a quest, which

650
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>just a real quick aside, Guys, I'm starting this business

651
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>with a friend of mine, and it's going to be

652
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 1>a mystery in which you have to find both a

653
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>murderer and a book that has been ripped apart chapter

654
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>by chapter, and those chapters hidden in different places. So

655
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this just has my particular attention for that reason. But anyway,

656
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 1>it's a book about cats that is by Andre Norton,

657
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.199
<v Speaker 1>who was a woman. Carl says, I don't recognize this

658
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>author has been mentioned before. My dad hated cats, so

659
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>he never had any books with cats on the cover.

660
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is when he gets the Luis Lamore books

661
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>out and is like, I'll trade you five.

662
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Of mine for five of yours.

663
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 1>And even though Limp Richard is like those books are

664
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot shorter, it's obvious he just would like something new,

665
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and he also hasn't tried reading westerns before, so he

666
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>agrees to the deal, and Carl chooses a Swan Song

667
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>by Robert R. McCammon, or no, he doesn't choose that.

668
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 1>He left that one on the table and picked up

669
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 1>sci fi three Andre Norton books, including the one he'd

670
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.199
<v Speaker 1>been reading, Breed to come. I'm sorry, guys, but Breed

671
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to Come is just such a It's a title that

672
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>means too many things nowadays. I also picked up The

673
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Lathe of Heaven by Ursula kay Legwin and The Forever

674
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>War by Joe Haldeman. I would like to announce officially

675
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 1>here I've said at other places, but like here, I

676
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 1>will put myself in your hands. Anybody listening who wants

677
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to commission any Ursula kay Legwin. I would be interested

678
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't read any of her books, and she

679
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 1>is brought up so often as like one of the

680
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>fundamental authors of sci fi fantasy, you know whatever. And

681
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I am very interested, But it also feels like the

682
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing that I don't want to pick up

683
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>on my own.

684
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>For some reason. It just feels like.

685
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I want a fan to lead me through it.

686
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense? So I'll just say that here and.

687
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Then we will move on. And Carl, as they are

688
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 1>walking away, is reprimanded by Donut for not driving a

689
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 1>hard enough bargain. But basically Carl is playing the long

690
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>game here, and he's like, hey, I know it looked

691
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like I went easy on him, but don't you worry.

692
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what's going to happen, because in the

693
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Coast Guard you would get real sick of the shit

694
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you've read already. He is going to be Jones and

695
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>and we are going to take advantage of it.

696
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Then, So.

697
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, the train that they were looking for only

698
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 1>comes every hour and a half, and they'd missed it

699
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 1>while they were.

700
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>In his shop.

701
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Which just as somebody who has lived places with trains,

702
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>this is such a funny, like it's it's not usually

703
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 1>that far apart, but it is just the reality of

704
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>some place that's got public transport is that, like, if

705
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't already know the route that you're going on,

706
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>you will just find yourself screwing yourself. For like in

707
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>ways like this, and they're looking at like there are

708
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.559
<v Speaker 1>different types of trains from different countries that are all

709
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>mixed together in this This train traveled in a figure

710
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>eight pattern, which meant once one got on it, they'd

711
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>eventually end up back at this station.

712
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That was good to know.

713
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 1>The train only had five stops total, though it appeared

714
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a good distance between each stop. Four of

715
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the five stops were transit stations. The one stop that

716
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was not a transit station was number four thirty six

717
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and appeared at the very top of the figure eight,

718
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to this later. Unlike the map outside

719
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of the red station, this one gave slightly more information.

720
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 1>It gave the colors for each of the transit stations

721
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it intersected. This station was yellow and red. The next

722
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was station two eighty three, but it was mauve and purple.

723
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.159
<v Speaker 1>The stop after that was four thirty six. Then stop

724
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>two thirty eight again, but this time was the green

725
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>line and the yellow line. Then it was station eighty

726
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 1>three again but a different station eighty three. It was

727
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the tangerine and plumb line. And for me, this is

728
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>adequate for me to be completely confused. You know, this

729
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is enough, And now I'm like, okay, I get it.

730
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>There is no figuring this out. And then from there

731
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 1>we went to the landing of the Yellow line. The

732
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>map here was identical to the map of the Red line.

733
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>The transit station numbers were the same, the line itself

734
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was shaped differently, like a giant upside down fish hook.

735
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 1>As I was looking at the map, the train pulled up.

736
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And then we have these creatures, which it turns out

737
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they can like kill while they're standing on the platform

738
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and the creatures as like I'm trying to find the spot.

739
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Donut hit the cave Mudge standing in the open door

740
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>with a pair of magic missiles, and it fell over

741
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 1>dead just as the doors started to slide close. We

742
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 1>can get them, but they can't get us. Let's wait

743
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>for the next train and shoot some more, Doughnut said,

744
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and Katschia says, Hekla is doing this very thing, has

745
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>been for a while, and she thinks that maybe this

746
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 1>is some kind of bug.

747
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 2>And Carl's is of a differing opinion. He thinks that

748
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 2>it's done this way.

749
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>On purpose to encourage people to sit tight and just

750
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 1>snipe at these things all day and get them hooked

751
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on this like easy. But in his opinion, the XP

752
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that you would be getting from creatures this low level

753
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't worth sitting still for.

754
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>And she goes on.

755
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Heckla also says the monsters all get off every five

756
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>floors if you follow them out. The levels are like

757
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a cave system, and there are tunnels she hasn't yet explored,

758
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but she thinks the tunnels might lead back to the

759
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 1>previous four platforms. She thinks the monsters are constantly migrating

760
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>in a circle that was kind of weird.

761
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Tell her we'll check it out.

762
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Also tell her about the Matt Mordecai is building. Have

763
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>her collect all the round info she can from all

764
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 1>of her contacts and report it back to you so

765
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>you can pass it on.

766
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I hope to have a better idea of.

767
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>This place by this time tomorrow. And this is one

768
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 1>of those things that I feel like I judge myself

769
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>for a bit. It would be advantageous to everybody that

770
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you're in contact with, like recruit them for putting together

771
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 1>a more accurate map. However, because I am feeling less

772
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 1>than trusting about Hecla at the moment, I don't want

773
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to give her information and trust that she is giving

774
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 1>me information that is accurate. I would be worried about

775
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 1>her holding back because she is, you know, maybe looking

776
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 1>to take me out, and it would be a very

777
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>convenient way to do that is to like leave off

778
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>some of what she is telling Katcya and get you

779
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>cornered in a spot where she can swoop in. So

780
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a part of me was like, am I just being

781
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>too paranoid? Or is Carl being too trusting? And also

782
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 1>there's just the aspect of like, it's such an advantage

783
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to potentially know what's going on with the trains over

784
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>other players who may not yet that I don't know

785
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>how much information I would want to share because I

786
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 1>want that advantage, And it's a difficult balancing act because

787
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the info that people are working with is going to

788
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>be super valuable, so you want to be able to

789
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>come to an agreement with them. But also it's you

790
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>might wind up putting yourself in a position.

791
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Where you could have had a lock on a whole

792
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 2>section because you know how it works.

793
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I was sort of uncertain if I would

794
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>have done what he would have done here, And also

795
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know exactly how the difficulty is that

796
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>in addition to maybe using this as a way to

797
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 1>get Carl out of the picture, if Hecla is trying

798
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to take Donut, it's just.

799
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 2>A I don't know if Hecla.

800
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Knows this, but Mordechai is Donuts manager. So if Carl dies,

801
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Mordechai is still a resource that Hecla could take advantage

802
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of as part of her party if Donut became integrated,

803
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and thus any information that Carl put together would be

804
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 1>saved and like complete, It's not like Carl dies and

805
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that, you know, whatever info he's working

806
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 1>with no longer applies or becomes inaccessible, even if it

807
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>were in his inventory, I guess you could loot it

808
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 1>off him. But yeah, so there's just there's a lot

809
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of angles of this that because of how I'm feeling

810
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 1>about Hecla lately, I'm just a little bit more gunshy

811
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and I am a little saddened by it because I

812
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 1>like Hecla in a way and I don't want to

813
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>feel this way about her. But it is what it is,

814
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Arazou says, it's a fair thought, but Carl

815
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>is nicer than us. We just have to accept that.

816
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is the thing is like I'm not even

817
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>sure I wouldn't do the same thing, but I would

818
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 1>probably have anxiety about it because I can be nicer

819
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>than I necessarily feel as wise in the moment, depending

820
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 1>on the situation, just because I want to give people

821
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt. So it might be that

822
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.119
<v Speaker 1>he's not nicer than me. It's just that I have

823
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge a little bit of a misgiving. Sarah Fem says,

824
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>why would Karl want an advantage over other crawlers when

825
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>that mindset will just make it harder for all of

826
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>them to survive. I'm not talking about Carl, I'm talking

827
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>about the mindset of players in the game in general,

828
00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Like what is the practical thing versus what it is

829
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that he chooses to do, And like, I have to

830
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that there is a potential advantage in not sharing

831
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>with people. You just got to like face that there's

832
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>reasons that some people operate the way that they operate,

833
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying one of them, you know, is

834
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 1>what Karl should be doing. Like we want Karl to

835
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 1>be the guy that's rooting for everybody, but I can't

836
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 1>ignore that there would be some advantage to it. Arazeu

837
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>says at this point, I think if Katcha knows, then

838
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Hekla knows. Well, that's kind of what I mean about. Like,

839
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Mordecai is the one in charge of the information. So

840
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>if Katya were to leave their crew, she's got whatever

841
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.159
<v Speaker 1>they had before, like up until the point she left.

842
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But if Mordecai is continuing to assemble info, then getting

843
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>donut means that you get everything.

844
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Beyond that point.

845
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 1>And somebody who is good at processing that information, because

846
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 1>it seems like Mordecai is pretty good at keeping track

847
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 1>of all of the differences in there. You know, Seraphim says,

848
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no real advantage in withholding information for this unless

849
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>your goal is to be a playing kill I think

850
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 1>it's meant to be player killing asshole. Well, yeah, that's

851
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>exactly my point, though. There are people that are gonna

852
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>do player killing, and there are advantages to playing that way,

853
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Like saying there's no advantage is just incorrect. It's simply

854
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that those advantages don't align with the way that you

855
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 1>would want to play or what you think is best

856
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. And that may be true, but it is

857
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a way to play, and there are going to be

858
00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 1>people who would handle it that way. And this is like,

859
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing about real life as well. You

860
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>know that there are things that would practically be a

861
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>smarter way to operate if you are only looking at

862
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the words smarter from a really narrow viewpoint, if you

863
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 1>were only looking at like the number crunching as your

864
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>pros and cons, and you were not looking at the

865
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:19.519
<v Speaker 1>long term effect of doing something that way. So if

866
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you are alienating people and you are not willing to

867
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.159
<v Speaker 1>share information for the greater good, and you are not

868
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.599
<v Speaker 1>willing to look out for other players because you're targeting

869
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 1>them the same way that you would target monsters. That

870
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to cause some real problems for you with

871
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>other players.

872
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 2>In a huge way.

873
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But some people are fine with that because they like

874
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling as if they have ay. There's a feeling of

875
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>superiority that can come with that, not only because of

876
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the inherent power over people physically in that way, but

877
00:54:56.079 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 1>also telling yourself, Oh, these soft idiots who are trying

878
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to band together, it's hopeless, you assholes. Accept your situation.

879
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Anybody who decides to work together is just prolonging the inevitable.

880
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 1>And there are countless people in the world who function

881
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 1>according to that every day, And in my opinion, that's

882
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 1>not the point of a society. Your whole reason for

883
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>having a society is to provide a support system for everybody,

884
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>including people who are not able to function according to

885
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:39.760
<v Speaker 1>what we deem as.

886
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Most valuable in capitalism.

887
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 1>But I can't deny that a lot of the folks

888
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 1>who function that way wind up financially stable, not necessarily

889
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 1>in a good position. According to my metrics of a

890
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:01.519
<v Speaker 1>happy life, but it pays, you know, So it's just

891
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:13.760
<v Speaker 1>everything is very subjective. So we get we meet the bonkers,

892
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>which are described by the AI in such a way

893
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that they it is clear that he is pissed at

894
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the Kuatine because of the way like he's basically like, yeah,

895
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they're complete morons, but at least they're smarter than those

896
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 1>assholes type of thing. And then Karl wants to like

897
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.760
<v Speaker 1>get onto the train and check things out. See if

898
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>there's like a driver, and there is no like front

899
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>compartment where the pilot would the driver would be. It's

900
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>just like closed off. Each train car held four sets

901
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of exterior doors on each side.

902
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 2>And he looks up, h.

903
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's see it, says we need a Yellow Line engineer's

904
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 1>key to open the next door. Katia said, how do

905
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 1>you think we get one of those? We need to

906
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>get the driver to come out somehow, I guess.

907
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Then we got to take it.

908
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Then we got to take it from him, either that

909
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 1>or maybe we can figure out how to break into

910
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the car from the outside. So they are I'm not

911
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna get too much because I'm running out of time here,

912
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 1>but this is one of the moments where they are

913
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 1>going up against these creatures and Kotcha does her popeye

914
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 1>shape change and it all goes pretty well, and she

915
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>says that it doesn't hurt this time as much as sting.

916
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And then let's see phantom kangaroo coming up.

917
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Came the announcement.

918
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>The voice was similar to the last train, but not identical.

919
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That'll be station number eighty four. After that is stop

920
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>number eighty five, which is an exit only cavern stop.

921
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for riding the tangle, and they let's see,

922
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I made it just about the right size. There wasn't

923
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 1>anything fancy about it. This is when he uses his

924
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>chunk of metal to block the door.

925
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And what I thought was.

926
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Sort of interesting is when these monsters come up to it.

927
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>He says that they're sort of lethargic until they realize

928
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>that they can't get.

929
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Onto the train, and then they begin to freak the

930
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 2>fuck out. And I couldn't help but wonder if.

931
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's two different groups of monsters and it looks

932
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 1>like it's the same group, that's like going in a circle.

933
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 1>But what of it's one group, what of it's two

934
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 1>groups that are each pursuing the other. There's a point

935
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 1>later on where the dude that they meet up with

936
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>is saying that there are two groups of these like

937
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.840
<v Speaker 1>snake creatures that look identical, but that they fight each other.

938
00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder if that's what it is. If

939
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just like we are motivating them by cycling them

940
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 1>through these caverns and onto this train in pursuit of

941
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 1>or to escape the other group that preceded them.

942
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's see.

943
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I forgot about this part where Carlo says, get

944
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:23.320
<v Speaker 1>ready to repel borders. Don't get grunted. You know, this

945
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 1>isn't a boat, right. All the starboard and aft and

946
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.239
<v Speaker 1>pirate talk is starting to really annoy Mango. I love

947
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 1>that she says that it's Mongo who's getting annoyed.

948
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Love you.

949
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, this thing manages to hold them back, and

950
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>one of its arms gets cut off because this does

951
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>not have the safety precautions built into a regular subway.

952
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And then they see the do not entertangle employees only

953
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>sign and they go in anyway, and I'm glad I

954
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.079
<v Speaker 1>have too much respect for the rules, and I know, oh,

955
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a problem. So I was thinking to myself, would

956
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I keep out what I really or would I do it,

957
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think that I'd probably go in, just because

958
01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 1>the way that I work in Skyrim is I'll try

959
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>every door a lot of the time, and I probably

960
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>would go in. So this is when they meet Vernon

961
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 1>the little Dwarf, and he is fed up and he

962
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 1>basically explains to them that his role is pointless and

963
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody listens to him. So between when the train arrives

964
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>where it's going and when it leaves, he is getting

965
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:47.480
<v Speaker 1>drunk and he's pretty unfriendly and is like, there's a

966
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 1>sign you need to fucking go up until the moment

967
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that he sees Donut and processes her being royalty, and

968
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of course her charisma ends up getting all kinds of

969
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 1>information out of him that is likely going to be useful,

970
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 1>but it just feels so disconnected from things at the moment.

971
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 1>And let's say I'm trying to find this this moment

972
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 1>where he explains because he keeps on saying that stop

973
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.519
<v Speaker 1>four thirty five is the end of the line, And

974
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>when Karl is asking yeah about what happens after that,

975
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 1>he's real cagy.

976
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 2>And finally don't know.

977
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:34.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like, why won't you answer his question? And he

978
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:38.360
<v Speaker 1>finally takes a big drink and is just like, all right,

979
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We pull in there, everything gets weird,

980
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm on platform ten, which is really just

981
01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the yard, and then when I climb on the train,

982
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it starts over and I don't even know how much

983
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 1>time has passed. And some people think it's a time loop.

984
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But if it were a loop and I got injured

985
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and start over, the injury would be but the injuries

986
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 1>don't go away. But and if I'm hungry at the

987
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:06.639
<v Speaker 1>end of it and then I start over, I'm still hungry.

988
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:11.639
<v Speaker 1>So it's obviously like something is moving forward in time,

989
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know why it's happening or what's going on.

990
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 1>And I'm assuming, actually now that he says this, that

991
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is.

992
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:22.440
<v Speaker 2>What's going on with the monsters.

993
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Also, is that it's just this constant loop for them,

994
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and they don't like they're trying to get out. Maybe

995
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:34.519
<v Speaker 1>they're getting on these trains hoping that they are going

996
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to be able to get out of the tunnels, and

997
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.719
<v Speaker 1>it really just takes them back to where they had

998
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>been on another level, and then they wind up in

999
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:45.559
<v Speaker 1>the same place, which is pretty awful, Like can you

1000
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.880
<v Speaker 1>imagine just being put in a maze where there's no escape,

1001
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.079
<v Speaker 1>but you think there is, and it keeps doing its

1002
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 1>thing over and over like so anyway, he explains too

1003
01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that like, there is this.

1004
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh drawing his wife that.

1005
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.880
<v Speaker 1>He normally leaves on the bedside in his cabin, but

1006
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.119
<v Speaker 1>one day he put it in his pocket, and then

1007
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the next day it was in his pocket again, so

1008
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 1>every time he does that he can make another one,

1009
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.639
<v Speaker 1>which he's figured out also.

1010
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Works with money.

1011
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And they ask him like, if you've got this much money,

1012
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just fucking leave? And he basically tries

1013
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to play it like, oh, I'm not trapped. I'm choosing

1014
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to stay and keep making money. And then this one,

1015
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.679
<v Speaker 1>no way, I'm letting some greasy dwarf steal my magic

1016
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 1>gold supply while giving him such fine stroke material. Oh

1017
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:46.599
<v Speaker 1>my god, I've never heard anything called stroke material before,

1018
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and that is honestly very funny to me. And also

1019
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's like a crude drawing, which I

1020
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 1>interpreted to be a poorly done drawing, but now I

1021
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 1>wonder if it's crude meant to be like poor graphic.

1022
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it's still the first one, but now I'm like,

1023
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 1>m so, yeah, this is when he says, we've got

1024
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 1>snakeheads in eighty six and eighty seven. They look the same,

1025
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.239
<v Speaker 1>but they fight each other. Station eighty eight is Mothman station,

1026
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and a few of the skinned mollies get on, which

1027
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 1>we see later. I think, which are those weird rabbit things?

1028
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And he brings up the yellow line and the Indigo line,

1029
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and she, being catcha is like, oh, that's where the

1030
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.840
<v Speaker 1>daughters are, and just as Carl is like, fuck, well,

1031
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see them, she realizes, Oh, no,

1032
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:44.199
<v Speaker 1>they're not there anymore. Never mind. Do the monsters always

1033
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 1>get off every five stops?

1034
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know why.

1035
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 1>They're usually pretty excited about it too, which maybe that's

1036
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:54.079
<v Speaker 1>it where they think that, oh, we were finally getting

1037
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:54.599
<v Speaker 1>out of here.

1038
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1039
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:01.320
<v Speaker 1>And Carl says, do they ever miss their stop or

1040
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>stay on? If one of them misses his exit, he'll

1041
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>get off on the next stop. They're always in a

1042
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 1>big panic when that happens. Once a GOADEO from station

1043
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 1>two twelve tried.

1044
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:12.199
<v Speaker 2>To loop around.

1045
01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 1>He stayed on all the way to the end of

1046
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 1>the line. It was the only time I've ever seen

1047
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>something remain on the train. He was still there when

1048
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>you got back on sort of. His skeleton was still

1049
01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>on the train, his skin and blood and hair wasn't.

1050
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Whatever happened after four thirty five ended up killing him.

1051
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It killed him a lot, which is a very funny line.

1052
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And when they ask, like, what is a way to

1053
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:43.480
<v Speaker 1>get the engineer out of his compartment, he says, the

1054
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.440
<v Speaker 1>only time he's ever seen one come out is derailment.

1055
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to this section.

1056
01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm halfway through chapter five, but I'm already like five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes overtime, so I'm going to kind of speed this

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<v Speaker 1>up and also try and get across how much of

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<v Speaker 1>this is began sort of blending together for me. While

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<v Speaker 1>each colored line had hundreds of trains on a track

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<v Speaker 1>at any given moment, he believed there was only one

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<v Speaker 1>of the larger trains per line. He didn't know much

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<v Speaker 1>about the tracks and the system, other than that trains

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<v Speaker 1>did not cross tracks with other trains. The tracks worked

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<v Speaker 1>like highways, with the tunnels going above and below one another.

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<v Speaker 1>After every five stops, the train would completely empty of

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<v Speaker 1>monsters until the next spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Vernon, the monsters wouldn't break into both cars

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and ten if they knew we were there, but

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<v Speaker 1>he insisted they'd never attack his car number five in

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<v Speaker 1>the time between stations. The time between stations varied greatly.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the stations would come one after another, coming every

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<v Speaker 1>minute or two, and then there'd be a stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes. It turned out the entire trip from stations

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to four thirty five took three whole days, which

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<v Speaker 1>was alarming. My initial instinct was that we needed to

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<v Speaker 1>stay as close to the stairwells as possible, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to suspect we need to get ourselves to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the line to figure this out. We

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<v Speaker 1>only had nine days. The good thing was if there

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<v Speaker 1>truly was only one Nightmare Express Line train that minute

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<v Speaker 1>managed to take to make its large figure eight pattern

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<v Speaker 1>in only an hour and a half, that meant we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to end up back where we started fairly quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>if we decided it was necessary. So Dona and Carl

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<v Speaker 1>leave for a moment, and they are talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>they need to find a neighborhood boss and they need to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explore things and see if there is a

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<v Speaker 1>map on one of them, and he asks Dona if

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<v Speaker 1>Katcha has said anything to her about Hekla and Donuts, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she did tell me that Hecla named a kick after

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<v Speaker 1>me because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And Carl has to be like, Okay, well, be careful

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<v Speaker 1>how much you tell her, and he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to Donut the whole thing. But and you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, probably it's the right call not to

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<v Speaker 1>tell her. I don't like keeping things from Donut. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's also like, I don't believe that she's a good liar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can see maybe her suddenly acting very different

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<v Speaker 1>with Hecla and giving it away that, oh, you might

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<v Speaker 1>be after Carl, I don't like you anymore, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to stay allies for right now. So maybe keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it to yourself for the moment is the right call.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also means that like Donut potentially might have

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<v Speaker 1>her guard down. So the way that Carl plays this

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<v Speaker 1>off is, you know, we have this bounty thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that she's like with us for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't trust anybody too much. Just be careful,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm going to summarize what happens next quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>They wind up at.

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<v Speaker 1>A room that is a reward room like where they

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<v Speaker 1>found Mango, and they meet a grapple who is a

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<v Speaker 1>third Giant and he is in charge of giving them

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<v Speaker 1>whatever suitcase by its number they request between one and

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred. Carl gets a suitcase that's got like some

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<v Speaker 1>women's clothes in it, that seems like a genuine suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>from somebody's trip. But there are manipotions and an invisibility

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<v Speaker 1>potion which only says, guess what this does? And I

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<v Speaker 1>really would appreciate a bit more because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means in terms of how long it lasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and what if it just makes you invisible permanently, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't say they could just do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes to open donuts for her and

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning, you sure you want to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Bucco, And he doesn't understand what the warning is and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, as he sees later, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>trap warning because he has a skill about spotting traps.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is full of actual fire ants, their ants

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<v Speaker 1>that are on fire. And I am on record on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook after having moved down to Texas. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe year three that I said, you'd think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be the heat or the backward legislation, but the

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<v Speaker 1>worst part of Texas is the fire ants. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you have never dealt with fire ants, you are very lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't change that because they are the actual worst.

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<v Speaker 1>These things only set things on fire. These are, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, way less awful. I would rather deal with

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<v Speaker 1>these version of fire ants than actual fire ants, just

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, and if you know, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I'll say about that. But they light everything

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<v Speaker 1>up and cause a massive conflagration that results in poor

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<v Speaker 1>Vernon being burned alive. And I felt so bad for him,

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<v Speaker 1>this poor dude, because like they're in a bar, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's moonshine right there. I hated this and it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up doughnut just saying that was the worst prize ever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sucks, poor Vernon.

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<v Speaker 2>Wompomp.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm way over time, so I have got

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<v Speaker 1>to go, But thank you guys again so much for

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with me. And I will be seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday with the new episodes and I'll miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>And until then, to lou motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled

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<v Speaker 2>network
