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Speaker 1: Hello ladies and Chentleman, Welcome to this keeps happening. Welcome

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to Trust. Told you you might wonder it's now music

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in the description says traps and Taylor told you that

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is true. Taylor will join me in Let's say ten

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to fifteen minutes, maybe twenty depends what happens. I am

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your host Trust now. Today in the afternoon we did

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record a Trust told you myself and Tator. We talked

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about the Star Wars news on the projects the followut

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if rand Kylo will be in it, talked about the

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Mummy three in the Rock. We talked about twenty eight

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days later the third one or twenty eight years later,

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the third one. It was gonna get canceled. All that

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could jazz. So we just recorded and the patrons will

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get this. We just record our town hall for Geek

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fir Us talking about the year and the future and

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a stuff, very great episode. I love those guys were

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just nice and insinct. It feels like we all have

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different takes. Went up anyway, So I was up later

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and I'm going to bed getting ready, and I see

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this news on my feet and I have to talk

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about it because I love the Batman and I did

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this last time where let me just share this here.

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I did this last time, but last time was because

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of Sebastian Stan being casta har Dan. This is on

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the other side of the Batman sphere. This is for

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brave and the bold, so it's very interesting. Let me

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just get this out here live late night talking some Batman.

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Oh boy, because sorry about that. I was meant to

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have the tweet ready, I had it deleted. Gone. Yeah,

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this is like old school trass totally. If anyone was

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watching live used to be doing them late and everything

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like that. But so what I'm doing, if you're listening

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to this, I'm recording this portion adding to the other episode. Patrons,

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you'll just get a small episode of my thoughts here.

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But I thought, I'm not doing trass, told you till Thursday,

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and I thought about waiting. But the thing is, if

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I'm doing the oscars, I and I could take up

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the whole episode right in the other news. So we're

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talking about this right now. I'll be alive. I'll be alive.

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I'll be alive for a little bit. S bubbs the

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flassification of braiding the bowl. Then, yeah, I thought, which

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thought about recording this whatever. Sometimes there's some fun weirdos

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like myself up late. So we'll see just gonna do

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about fifteen twenty, there will be an episode. So I'm

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adding this on here. So this has come out from

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Jeff Snyder. Honestly, Jeff Snyder a very controversial figure overall,

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with even gun and the DC stuff, right, but has

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gone stuff before. Right. I'm not somebody that knows a

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lot of people, especially I do Vodka Streuman personally, don't

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like him. I feel indifferent about Jeff Snaer, as I

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said before, I'm blocked by him on Twitter because one

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time I accused the Patriots of tweeting and that was it.

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I used to fall him because of the Shmowdown. Loved

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the shmo Down back in day, love Harlot that whole game.

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And I still watch John Rokua's show. I watched the

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Hot Mic and Snyder's on there. I think they have

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good chemistry. Schneider, whatever you want to say about it,

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I don't watch for him. I like Roca is a

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great guy. He was one of our trivia battles. All

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the instances I had with broke up really good, Snyder,

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all that was this was that, and I thought, okay,

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d kind of a little weak, like you you blocked

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me for the Patriots, you know, cheating. That's okay, that's fine.

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So he put that out there. And then also another

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Scooper that broke this Maxima store, which I don't know

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much about Maximus, so that's why him put on any

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of the news or anything like that. But his name

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is Apocalyp Horseman, but I put him like the C

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plus here, right, So Snyder had put out and he

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puts his newsletters out a little bit later because it's

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always I'm Pacific and I see the news travels. So

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I remember on my last week he teach some Batman

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news where we didn't know of what, and I guess

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in this report and the other Scooper had brought up.

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B category. Like I said, I can put personal sides

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of feeling into the guys kind of questionable. I that, like,

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up as far as Scooper is, Like I don't care

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what they're doing personal as long as not breaking any laws. Cool.

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So he had put out that Brave and Bold is

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being written by Christina Hawks Christina Hodson. Uh Buster. Barnes says,

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upon a Horseman is like an A minus Scooper in

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the Scoopers. If you're a tier S tier, you have

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and the A tiers are the ones that get to me.

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like Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, Variety, right, B tier is like

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if you want to argue, he's in there and have

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to see all the lists of scoops. But I feel

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like there is some stuff he's gone wrong before. But

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maybe he's b I just I'm not as affiliated with

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him as much. But is say like Snyder Daniel rpgat,

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those people are in the B right where they get

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lots of stuff wrong. But they do get lots of

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big stuff, right right, So, but that's fair if you

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have them there. Okay, Triple Trill says, I'm in f

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don't don't say that about yourself. It's okay, I'm not

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I'm like a D Tier Scower. I've gotten a few

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things in my day from a few sources. But so

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he had put out there that Christina Hodson is writing Batman,

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Brave in the Bolt. So she is the person that

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wrote Birds of Prey, Bumblebee, God, the Flash. Obviously that's

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the biggest one people hold against her. And I feel like,

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is there not another DC project? If anyone else tells me, because

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my stream of consciousness. Is there another DC project she

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Augaman or whatever. Maybe I can't remember, but I thought

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she did it, or at least a rewrite. I don't know.

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in the DC fandom, specifically a lot on the Snyder fandom,

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because she wrote things like birds of Prey or like

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the complete opposite side. Speaking of Avka Stream, I love

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every time going on there. When I talk about my

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favorite DCU film, I say it's Birds of Prey. Really,

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it's a tie between Birds of Prey and Zack Snyder's

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Justice League. They both have a few things that keep

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them from me in ten, but I love Birds of Prey. Yeah,

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there's definitely some stuff that's chopped up, but I had

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such a good time that I can rewatch it all

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the time. I think there's great performances in there, some

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very fun, different, unique take on the characters. Something that

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people don't like, right, But I think for me, I

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enjoyed most of the stuff that has happened. All right.

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Mike says, she take her back, girl, but we don't

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know what that could happen. So sometimes this is why

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I love about the Light Ice Dream. Mitch Connelly, can

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you call my mom and asked if she can come

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home soon. She won't pick me up pick up my calls.

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just trolling, but still that's why I love aout the

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light dreams. You never know who walked up here of

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the algorithm pushes to But I enjoyed Birds of Prey

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a lot, right, I understand people's critiques of it, but

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I love a Snyer fan. Aren't a fan of that

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or not a fan of the Flash? Right? And the

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other people. I kind of read that wrong in a

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sense that I thought a lot more people were going

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to enjoy the Flash and they, I'm not gonna say, didn't,

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just really didn't. I remember the weekend of my letter

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box seeing people that fall the shore or listen to

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the show and just like fail grades or mediocre grades

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and stuff like that. Right, So I I was surprised

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by that. The critique of the CGI and the effects

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of a lot of stuff that I understood, but some of

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the story stuff and the beats, and I thought Ezra

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did a great job. I enjoyed, you know, So I

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had a good time with it. Buster Broms says, I

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think behind the scene, I think the behind the scene

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situation is a lot different now than when the Flash

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was being made. I'm still optimistic. So again, I'm somebody

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that I like Birds of Prey, I like Flash so

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in that situation, if it's even better than that, great,

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I've I liked Bumblebee as well too. I'm not a

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transformer guy. I enjoyed that. So yeah, I I got

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a lot of weird ones today. Snake Bit says, uh,

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what do you look for in your men? On grinder Man,

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I never got to do any of the dating apps.

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I met my lovely wife thirteen fourteen years ago. Coming

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on our God, I think it's third. We're in our

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thirteen now. I never did a single dating act, and

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be taller Adam Driver type, you know, like the shadow Daddyes, absolutely,

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you know, and that sort of thing. Her best grip

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was Bumblebee, absolutely a trouble, triple trouble, saying little Bubble Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I guess for me, I like Birds of Prey more

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than Bonbe, but I agree that probably overall that's a

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stronger movie of that. So what's interesting about it is

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he always keeps saying the writer, the writer, right, and

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it's him. He wrote Superman. Maybe he's not a direct Batman,

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Pauk said that it's a situation that she was probably

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or was writing it to begin with, and stuff got

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changed around and she went somewhere else, and they went

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to a different writer and then circled back to her,

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and there was a situation where she was writing the

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the case of it is. So it sounds like it's

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kind of come back to her. So I don't get

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me wrong, maybe he's a signaler. I do feel like

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there's a bit of him protecting her as far as

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he's worried about the reception. I think Gun, as a

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like I remember when he did that whole thing where people,

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oh god, oh it was to signify like the Palaestine

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Israel war and people are saying, oh, this story is

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about that, and he said, oh, not at all. And

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a lot of people are like, man, ruining the movie.

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biggest concern, is that in Bird of Press, you fundamentally

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misunderstood the character Becauseendra Kane, who is a big Bat

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family character. That's that's fair, right. I can't say you're wrong.

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it's it's it's tough, right because if you're a big

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that I still like that character and I still like it.

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low key Batman characters to me, other than being a vicious,

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like very vicious and violent, that's not Roman psionists. He's

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not dancing around, he's not flamboyant. The way I McGregor

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Mass this way. Sure, let's see what it is right

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where something like jar Low's Joker too far and I

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couldn't enjoy it, right, So Mike, I get that because

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I remember a lot of people bringing up back in

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the day and I didn't have the same complaints. But

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I understand, right, especially if it's like a that was

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a DC Universe, like a DC Universe character, right, it

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wasn't like an else Worlds or what if? So I

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get that. So I think what the issue is here

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when everyone brings us up all the time? Right, Because

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now it's like you and mushetty as right now directing Batman.

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We haven't heard anything else, and I feel a lot

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of people are back on the train because they liked it.

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Walking on there, it's like, oh yeah, great, let's come

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do that. Okay, whatever you feel. So people are back

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on the train there. But now it's like, even if

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they were iffy about that, but willing to give him

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a chance, you got Christina Hudson. And I'm talking from

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the side of people that don't like this choice. I'm

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per perfectly fine with it. Again, as I've said before,

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as long as the Batman Part two really happens, I

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don't really care what they do with this movie. I

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do care in a sense as far as I love Batman,

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I'll always be there. I'll be there to day I

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want to see. But if I have two Batman's and

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I have one I really love, then you can gotta

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do whatever you want with your DC Batman, especially if

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I get Batman three, you can do whatever you want

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for a while. Like that's fine. I still want to

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enjoy it. Of course, if I don't, I'll I'll list

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all the reasons why. But I still want to root

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for right. If I can have two Batman's, great, So

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my thing is and uh, Hunter, you know you're coming later.

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You said, what are your thoughts on Maxim movie and

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mana Tomorrow. I don't really have much. I don't know

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much about Maximus, so I didn't That didn't really move

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the needle for me. And what is your thoughts on

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Wonder Woman and Batman not showing up a Man Tomorrow?

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We don't know that because Gun didn't say that, and

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Guns also not told the truth before he said Ultraman

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wasn't in Superman and he was right. So I can't

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really I take everything that Gun says with a grain salt.

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At first I didn't, but he's a few times said

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some things that he's gone back on, so to me,

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I'll ask me about that when we see the movie.

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not liking it, if you get Muschetti and hair her

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back together. And they wrote the Flash, which Gun, it

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could have just been promotion, right, but they still did

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say I think The Flash is one of the greatest

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comic book movies of all time, right, something that I'm paraphrasing,

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but they did.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise says that people love it get to I

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think with the box office and a lot of the

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reception that BLEWP in the face a little bit because

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I think they thought they had a winner, same thing

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I honestly did. I liked the movie and I thought

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it would be a hit with a lot of other

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people and it was not. So I'm with them that

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even if I thought it was gonna be bad, I

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didn't think it was me like the two hundred million

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and the reviews, Like, I did not think I was

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gonna see lots of fails on my letterbox, and I did,

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like I talked about, right, So I if they thought

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they had a winner, I'm not saying like, uh oh

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ten out of ten like this is awesome. No. I

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had issues with the Flash as well. But if they

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thought they had a winner and didn't and now they're

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doing this, it's gonna be I said this earlier, like

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a lot of like twenty twenty seven is going to

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be very interesting because you have Netflix get in full control,

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You've Gunn's contract coming up. I talked about this in

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the episode coming up, just like a little bit with

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me and Taylor, And then you have The Batman and

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Man of Tomorrow releasing very close together, right, And what

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if Man Tomorrow underperforms and people love the Batman and

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people aren't really excited about braving the Bull because I

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don't think this will impact the GA. This will pack

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the the comic book film audience, the Twitter audience, right,

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I don't think tons of gap, like really g ap.

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Let's see four to six movies a year if that.

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They sometimes don't even pay attention to director unless it's

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like Spielberg or Tarantina. Right, They're not gonna make oh,

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the Flash, And because the Flash didn't do that well,

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they maybe not even seen it. So they that like,

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it's only us in this community, right as somebody. And

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let's say if I had from this perspective, no Batman.

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Let's say if they got rid of Pattison and Matt

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Reeves they just don't want to do it. They did too,

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and they stopped there. Would I be happy with this

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collection of you know, MUSHETI and Hodson I personally would.

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I still think there's maybe some better choice out there.

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Like when we thought Drew Goddard was maybe write in

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the Batman, that's was like, oh man, because I've liked

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a lot of Hodson's work, especially Birds of Prey, but

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Goddard it's like a different level. Right, So for me

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as a package, I would give this like a B

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H could be an a as far as the thoughts,

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but a few things. Buster Barnes says, to be honest,

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I think most people hate the Flash because the visuals

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and the lead. Uh. I think I'll say a lot

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of people hate it because the lead and the visuals.

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The visuals I heard a lot of, but I've also

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buzz runs since then. Even that time, heard a lot

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of people just did not like the story and the

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things that happened. I think it was almost just a

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collection of things. So I can agree with that. Maybe

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most people did hate the Flash and the lead, but

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I think a lot of people just didn't like that

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movie as well. Not speaking of everyone's behalf honestly, but

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going a bit crazy online in my opinion, I thought,

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and that's why I talked about it, was like I

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thought people were gonna go crazy because I remember a

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lot of people that were DCEU fans and just general

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DC fans that did not like the Flash. So people saying, hey,

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we're doing we're running it back with those two the

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director and that writer. I can get that right, Like

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it's it would have been like you telling me, like Awfestly,

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this was before I knew about this, right, But remember

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two said Squad twenty sixteen and all the fuckery that

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went on with that. If that would have happened and

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that movie was a hit, so I could have bought

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When they said, oh, Air is doing Harley and Joker

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all this stuff, I thought, well, it's a hit, you'd

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probably get airback. But what if they before we heard

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about anything, right as far as like BVS came out

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and they edited Squad to shit because they want to

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be lighthearted and change because of another movie, which sucks

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for Air. But if you would have told me, hey,

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David Ayer, they're making a solo Batman movie. We've been

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after it's not directing anymore, but he's in it, and

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Air in the company is doing that movie, I would go, man,

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I'm pretty worried. Right, So I get that point of view.

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If you and I take out the Ezra stuff, right,

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that's a whole can of worms. If you just hate

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the Flash because Ezra's in, it wasn't recast released, I'm

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not talking I'm talking about the people that were disappoint

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with the story or the visuals or anything that way.

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If you really actively disliked it, that wasn't just because

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Ezra Miller. That does suck for you, right, especially it

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sucks if you don't like the reef stuff. So I

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don't know how people are gonna I don't know, well,

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I do know, I guess. I guess. I mean, like,

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I don't know how people around my sphere are gonna feel.

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I shared my GA chat, but most of them are

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asleep right now because they're Eastern. Mike. I saw you

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in the chat saying you're iffy butt, and I feel

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like that's where it is where people are the majority

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are going to not like it or be iffy on it.

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I'm somebody that I'm like, sure, give it a shot

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because I like Mushet's work. I like her work. I

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think they can give me a seven out of ten.

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Batman movie, and I've said this before. I'm not trying

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to be I have so many Batman movies I have

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is so rare. I'll say, like Batman, he's my favorite

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character along with the Joker, and that's like a very

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popular character I have, right, So it's easy. But the

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fact that I have the Dark Knight and the Batman,

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and you could even argue Batman begins and no, I'm

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the anime. It's a fantasma turned Joker, but for a

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live action I got Dark Knight and The Batman that

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constantly go back and forth as what's my favorite Batman film? Right,

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So many heroes don't have that. They have maybe a

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couple of movies, or they have one. It's like, this

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is for sure the bullet point.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Like with Spider Man, I feel like everyone not mean,

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but everyone's like it's spider Man two. With Batman, I

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have like four options. I could say this is the

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best Batman movie. That's rare, like to me. So that's

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where it's like, if this movie's seven out of ten,

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I'll be fine. And I also said before which I

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did appreciate, and the chat I'm still gonna get. This

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is not like a regular trash told you I had

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no time. Everyone's asleep, so I'll get to all your

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questions before we end this and wrap this up, so

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don't worry. It's not like what is it?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Fuck?

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Speaker 1: I was taking care of taking care of all you,

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and I forgot what I was gonna say. Oh I

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was talking about it. I didn't like it. Oh No,

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I thought I had a good thought there. Oh I corrept.

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Oh that's what I was gonna say. Gun yesterday or

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two days ago. He said that there he wasn't gonna

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tub of the right, the script wasn't done, and because

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that was at our report, right, it's coming out to

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twenty so the script isn't finalies and what I did,

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like he said, I'm not gonna talk about much about Batman,

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Brandy and the Bolt while Batman two's in production, because

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I don't want to confuse the batsphere. That's right. I

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still think that even if it is twenty twenty, I

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think you could wait. There's so many deazy characters you

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could bring up and build up. Batman's gonna be popular

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at any time. I still think if you do it

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justly movie without him. I'm not saying it would be massive,

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but you could do that the same way as I

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think we all think with the MCU, they'll kind of

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wait on Wolverine. Like, I don't think you have to

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get to the Batman right now. I know people are asking,

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but there's so much Batman content out there you don't

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have to. And then let's say you get to just

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League two, and it's even a bigger thing. Right, I

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understand that he's a foundational member, so you want there

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but still like, I think you could wait. So for me,

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the long of better on information, all this stuff is

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better for the populacet so Buster Barnes says, well, I

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think you guys got a few of these. Buster Barnes says, Also,

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Gun will have a to approve the script, and it's

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probably very hands on, very hands on with it compared

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to other projects. I agree, that doesn't necessarily I'm in

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a tough spot, Buster Barnes, I don't want to be

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like an mcu fanboy. I loved his Marvel stuff. His

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DC stuff has not hit for me. I think it

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actually has hurt a little bit of him completely being

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off the leash. I think Superman's weakest comic book movie.

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So for me, that's not great. And I also just

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don't think I appreciate that Gun said, like, I don't

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want a jokey, you know, over the top Batman. I'm

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gonna make a serious Batman or I want to be serious.

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But I still when I look at guns work, I

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don't look at him and go, oh, that's a great

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fit for Batman. Right, So that's where I'm on that

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side where that doesn't get like, of course he's gonna

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do that and I that he'll probably be hands on

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in coman out. But I'm not like, oh, well, guns

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on it, so we're okay. It's like that's that's not

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a full on conclusion for me. Super says also what

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happened to DC Writer's Room guns that he had said

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he had when all the start feels like we're getting

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a lot of the same people. I have seen that

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complaint and I do agree, and I'll all dovetailed here,

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he said. I'm really hoping and Nigara Supergirl's script is

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great because she's doing Titans. Also, it's fresh blood with her,

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which is exciting. It's that and she's doing something else,

469
00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:35,079
so right, can you confirm did she like write Lanterns? No?

470
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,680
I guess that was probably Linda Off for Monday too,

471
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,759
Like I thought there was a third thing she was

472
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,960
already doing that was like it was Supergirl, Titans and

473
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,880
something else. I agree with that sentiment, where like the

474
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680
Writer's Room, I guess I'm less hard on that because

475
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,279
I could just see, Hey, we want to get and

476
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:56,119
start this universe. Let's get a team of great people

477
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,119
together and keep going.

478
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: Right.

479
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: But even Tom King. Tom King is like based on

480
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,279
Supergirl and even someone's lantern stuff, and then he's writing

481
00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,519
Mister Miracle. It feels like we have Christina Hodson and

482
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,240
Nagarat and Tom King and the others are maybe around

483
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,640
giving some bold points. But I've heard that critique and

484
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,519
I agree with it, especially when Gun said, hey, well

485
00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,839
we want to do here, And granted there's other scripts,

486
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,279
right he's in there, but still Guns wrote Superman mantor

487
00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:24,519
who writes something else, But there's some like clay Face

488
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:26,400
has written by Mike Flanagan, so that's a one off.

489
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,400
But when he said, hey, the DCU is gonna be

490
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,559
different than MCU because it's gonna be in the same universe,

491
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,680
but it's not gonna be the same vibe. Not every

492
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,839
film's gonna be samesy. We want everything to kind of

493
00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:38,240
stand on its own. You don't have to watch it

494
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,599
if you're kind of just cycling through the same three

495
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:43,799
writers all the time. It's gonna have that even if

496
00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:45,880
you don't want to. Even if you get a different director,

497
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,960
a pheatographer and even an editor and color water, it

498
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,839
could end up feeling like writing and just story wise

499
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,440
and character arcs and development, it could start to feel samesy, right,

500
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,359
I'm not saying a person like a Niagara can't go

501
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,200
and write multiple characters and be different, but there's that

502
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,119
risk of that happening. Right, it's a gun. Anytime he

503
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,880
writes the script, you know, wants James gunscript, it feels

504
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,079
like James Gun, right, So I hope it is good.

505
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,200
But I also, yeah, I don't want just the three

506
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,200
same writers all the time. Right. Let's see. Bus Per

507
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,400
says some people thought he was saying we wouldn't get

508
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960
bringing the Bull updates until after abatun teerleas. I don't

509
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,720
think that's what he meant. I just think he meant

510
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:30,359
after it's done filming, I guess. But I still wouldn't. Again,

511
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,720
I'm on that side, which granted, I think no matter

512
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,680
what long or better, So even if it's filming, that

513
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,599
still makes sense. That's still a good thing of I

514
00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:38,480
don't want to say shit until it's done filming to

515
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:42,480
confuse people. That makes sense. I still would I'd still wait.

516
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:45,119
I wouldn't ness with that up at all, because even

517
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,640
when I was talking about, oh, I'm gonna go and

518
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,440
talk about this, she's like, oh, right, they're doing too bad,

519
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,319
and it's like, why are they doing that, Like I

520
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640
know people and even the discord when we put up

521
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,519
like hey, will there'd be an issue if Brave the

522
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:57,680
Bull comes out a year after Batman two and the

523
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,680
majority people said no. I still think there's a chance.

524
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,160
People go, I saw a Batman movie last year, I'm

525
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,319
good the same way as the Batman came out, and

526
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,000
the next year the Flash, which had two Batman in

527
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,519
it advertised one being a returning Michael Keane bombed. So

528
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:14,039
I'm not sure. Uh, super Mike says, with Brave and Bold,

529
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:15,880
I think it's the bat family aspect that makes it

530
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359
more than Batman's self. People have been waiting a long

531
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,559
time to get them live action. Yeah, I agree, and

532
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,960
that's the differential. It's tough of like, I just wonder

533
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,920
what that script is, right, because Gun said went through

534
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,039
a lot of changes. We heard rumors that oh they

535
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,880
weren't doing Damien, it's the Robin, and then I think

536
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,119
just last week it's like, no, it is Damien. But

537
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,680
then Gun said that report was untrue. So Mike, I

538
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960
agree with you. I think they will do bat Family stuff,

539
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480
But I still wouldn't hold my breath on all being established.

540
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:45,519
I'm still someone personally, if the DC is going I

541
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,960
would be fine if it's like Bruce Nightwing back Girl,

542
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:53,200
and maybe whether it's Damien or even Tim Drake at

543
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:54,680
least here Roum. But like, I don't want to go

544
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,000
too far. I actually want to see the I if

545
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,240
I had my brothers, I would have it just as

546
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,079
him and Dick and no background. Yet, like, I actually

547
00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:04,559
want to see a bat family of alve and be built.

548
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,359
They're not just thrown at it, right because there's a

549
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,559
lot of people that don't even fucking know who Red

550
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:10,400
Hood are, so they don't mic or even like some

551
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,359
of the stories with Nightwing, I don't think they have

552
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,200
the same attachment that we do the Bat family. I

553
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,680
love the Bat family. I want that too, but it

554
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:20,000
does differentiate, but maybe people don't care about it, right,

555
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:23,960
So I don't know with hotsin which she's written, because

556
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,200
what you could say, the Flash is kind of ensemble birds,

557
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,000
the Praise is ensemble, so I could see and she's

558
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,039
gonna write Fast and Fears, which is unensemble, so I

559
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,119
could see them making a case of hey, Christina could

560
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440
be the right fit for the Bat family. So yeah,

561
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,960
Undriggie says, if James Gun steps down is the CEO,

562
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:41,839
but we'll still stay as a director for the DCU.

563
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,160
Who you wants new CEO? No idea, No idea because

564
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:50,920
like because I think it would have to be like five,

565
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,599
you're at someone we don't know in that situation. Hunter,

566
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,640
If gun steps down CEO, unless he's in mid predict

567
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,240
production or something, I don't think he was still directing.

568
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,240
I think that's when he'd probably take his own time

569
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,079
to go do his own studio direct movies. Hell, maybe

570
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,279
goes back to MSU. I don't think he'd stay on

571
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,720
with the DCEU because I feel like a lot of

572
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,839
it is his vision, and if he felt like he's

573
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,240
not controlled anymore, he's less invested. That's just a guess.

574
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:18,400
I don't know. I'm just guessing on what his actions were.

575
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,240
And you're asking me of like, hey, in two and

576
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,559
a half years, you know, or like in a year

577
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:25,160
and a half, who should be CEO? Who knows? There

578
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,079
could be a new person. There's other people that fired.

579
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,759
There's nobody that's like readily available, right and even James Gunn,

580
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,960
we didn't know that was happening. It could easily just

581
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,440
be Oh, James Gunn steps down, and Peter Saffron is

582
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,160
at all or Peter Saffron brings on another director we

583
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,079
talked about, like big Dan Linn. That's someone where I

584
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,880
had seen the Conder movies, Leo Batman, I've seen a

585
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,680
bunch of his stuff, But before that report came out

586
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,599
that he was trying to get that job, I didn't

587
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,359
know who Dan Lynn was. We didn't know who Kevin

588
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Foggy was. It's not a situation where it's like Falloni,

589
00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,200
where we hear James Gunn has like a crazy if

590
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,519
that's under him. Right, let's just say Christina Hodson becomes that,

591
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,880
she becomes a creative that like she's the folowing to

592
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,000
his Lucas. Then you go, oh, if he were to

593
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,880
drop out, she could easily take over like folowing for Kenny. Right,

594
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,079
we don't have that right now, and I think it

595
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,839
would just be someone not random, but something we wouldn't

596
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,640
even know or we would heard of before. But it's

597
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,400
nothing or even maybe Netflix is like, you know, gonna

598
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,279
put in their own person. Maybe Dan Linn works there.

599
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,519
Maybe it'd be fucking Dan Lynn, like I honestly think

600
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,039
hunter Dan Lynn. If if gun and Saffron were gone away,

601
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720
he was trying to get the DC jaw before. I

602
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,839
know he's like the chairman of Netflix Films, but like

603
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,880
I think he would just heavily involve, like I want

604
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,119
to do DC stuff. Chavon Moore pray about Jesus. I

605
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,680
absolutely will not pray about Jesus. Uh, super bad Mike

606
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,400
A night when background superhero date movie could be awesome,

607
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,960
so much potential old characters, apps, the fucking lole Micah

608
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,240
with you put that movie on Valentine's People forget about this.

609
00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,519
The first Deadpool was a hit because it was a unique.

610
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:02,559
It was that ray Ar comedy. It was pairing runinos

611
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,440
with a perfect project. They released it during Valentine's Day.

612
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,640
You know why because it still played like a fucking

613
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,240
date movie. I don't know about top three, but top

614
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:14,480
five for chemistry couple pairings Vanessa and Wade in that movie,

615
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,480
I'd put in the top five for sure. That was

616
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,319
that thing of it was like, oh, it was dirty

617
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,440
making jokes and feel you should be But like, think

618
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,559
about that love montage. Right, I'm not saying doing that

619
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,119
with night Wing and back Girl, but they're still like,

620
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,599
if you can make it fun enough, you could release

621
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,440
it around February and have a good hit, don't make

622
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,519
it crazy budget, make it literally just night Wing and

623
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:38,519
back Girl on a date. Or they were like, think

624
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:41,440
about that opening of The Incredibles and it's like Elasta

625
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,440
girl on Incredible or mister Incredible. When they're like flirting

626
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,720
and it's like, oh, you gotta get to your wedding. I

627
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160
hope you're not late, and they see each other. If

628
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,039
you got that energy for an hour and a half

629
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:53,640
and they're taking down a black mask, a professor, pig,

630
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:58,160
a firefly, like someone smaller, perfect and smaller budget that

631
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,599
you can make your money back, no issue, right, And

632
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,440
that's where I do support. I don't know if it's

633
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,720
the right choice to start off both clayface, right, that's

634
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,319
something that supposedly has a smaller budget and it's gonna

635
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:12,759
be like that, give back Girl night Wing that treatment. Right.

636
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,799
So Mike, I'm fully with you, like I'm with you

637
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:16,960
on the bat Family stuff. That's why to the point

638
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,960
where we heard those those Robin rumors in the Batman,

639
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160
I was like, no, no, no, like say that for the DCU,

640
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,880
let pass and just do single stuff. So I'm with you.

641
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
I just don't know what guns saying the script's changed

642
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200
a lot, and we've seen a lot of things change now, right,

643
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,960
the authority gone, swap thing is up in limbo. What

644
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:38,119
else there's some other Sergeant Rock that's up in limbo

645
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,160
are gone. There was another one too, even Titans we

646
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,160
heard was I think someone said, like, we don't know

647
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440
if that's happening anymore, right, I think even Sayer said that.

648
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:52,200
And that's where I think I could be wrong. Oh yeah,

649
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,079
there was like a Scooper debate where one Scoober the

650
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:55,960
most of c tiars, but one Scooper put out, hey,

651
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,680
DC's gonna focus on just the mainline characters. That one said, oh,

652
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,839
that's not the case. I I still think they are.

653
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,240
I think stuff like Titans or even Backgirl Night Wing,

654
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:06,839
unless it's super low budget, they're gonna wait and see.

655
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,599
And that's why it's like on paper if they look

656
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:14,119
at the Back Girl or like the Bat Family, is

657
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,079
there some fucking executive chair somewhere being like, you know what,

658
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:20,599
you should make that movie because it's not gonna pull well.

659
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,720
I'm not gonna do well, right, Yeah, Wall or Booster Gold,

660
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:25,519
things we haven't heard about, right, And I'm not saying

661
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:29,200
it's not a like I'm not saying they're wrong for that.

662
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,359
I'm not holding that against Gun like you announced all

663
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,920
this stuff like I am in a sense of when

664
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,319
people just swear by him right, like, well he says this,

665
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,039
I can't get on board that. I'm not saying the

666
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,599
man's lying all the time. I think that's fine if

667
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,960
authority Sergeant Rock, Booster Gold or Waller, like even Sergeant

668
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,359
Rock to me, like, there's things I liked about, like

669
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,079
I liked about the pitch, but if you ask me,

670
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:51,799
and I'd have to see the budget, right, But let's

671
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:55,000
say if it's even a hundred million, is Serge we

672
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:58,640
Rock gonna make that? I don't know is authority gonna

673
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000
make that. I don't know where it world right now

674
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,799
where people with political stuff are sometimes very turned off

675
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,200
with that, right, and that's a very certain market. Is that?

676
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:09,319
To Boise, it's like, I don't know if that's gonna

677
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:11,839
be a hit. Same thing with Waller and Booster Gold Gold.

678
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,200
I would take a chance on Waller as Gris Viola Davis.

679
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:20,319
Is is that gonna be like a hit HBO show? Maybe?

680
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,039
But I could also see it not being that right,

681
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,079
So it's like, I think it's fine to pivot the

682
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:29,200
same way as like now Marvel Armor Wars. Maybe you

683
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,839
know it sounds like Blade. I'm fine if they announce

684
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,599
stuff and they go you know what, we don't need

685
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,920
to go with like Brent used to say, other than

686
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,440
Agents of Sheet or no, it was the Humans that

687
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
they turned into like a TV show. Everything on their

688
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,559
slate had come out before, right, I'm fine with them

689
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,039
not keeping the pristine record if it means more wins

690
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:48,640
than the line and if it's gonna be a project's

691
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,440
gonna cost you money or maybe suck because you're just

692
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,480
rushing out out there, don't do it. So yeah, the

693
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:55,640
Wonder Woman game thrown Show Gone because I think that's

694
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,519
a situation where I think they're like, well, we don't

695
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:00,279
want to do Wonder Them right away, so let's do

696
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,200
something Wonder Woman adjacent. And I think the same thing

697
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,039
where they're like, well, you know what are people gonna

698
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,519
show up for that? And I think it's everything. It's

699
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:11,960
it's those years of the DCEU ending of Shazam, Booster,

700
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,200
Gold Aucaman and the Flash Aucaman was the biggest at

701
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920
what like five hundred and six hundred. The rest of

702
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,039
those movies ate shit. They ate shit, and people didn't

703
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,119
go see them for whatever reason, whether they were done

704
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,319
with DC, whether they didn't like those movies, whether there

705
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,079
was too many comic book movies. For whatever reason, they

706
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:28,640
did not go out to see them. And guess what,

707
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:32,200
all those characters like you are you flash? Those aren't

708
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,759
like a tier Ga characters, right, I think Wonder Woman is.

709
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,279
So it's the thing of do you do this TV

710
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,119
show muddy the waters? Or do we just skip to

711
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,480
and get to the movie now we don't know if

712
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,240
she's man tomorrow. He kind of implied no. But again,

713
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,759
I don't think that's a locked in, right, he said, Oh,

714
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,759
there'll be other heroes and small roles. Who are these heroes?

715
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Who knows? So yeah, it's going to be interesting. Let

716
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,640
me look at my time and just see if anything

717
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
else is broken. But I'm gonna be very curious how people,

718
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,279
especially like the Snyder can't feel, because I think a

719
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:01,880
lot of those people didn't know. And I'm talking about

720
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,759
like the same people, not the craziest people. I'm talking

721
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,400
about saying people I'm friends with, like how they feel

722
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,200
if this does become true, Because I think a lot

723
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,759
of people did not like her vision and the type,

724
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:12,279
and I feel like there's still people that are mixed

725
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:16,359
on Muschetti. It's just interesting where I feel that you

726
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,319
have a lot of people that are getting very excited.

727
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,279
That's why I talked about twenty twenty seven being very

728
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,119
interesting time and gun the whole thing being an interesting time, right.

729
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680
I feel like it's like the exact opposite where either

730
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,799
people are mild on it or getting less excited for

731
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,559
Brave and Bold and for the Batman because it's now

732
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
gearing up offly because the love of the Batman one,

733
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240
but still it's gearing up. People are getting more and

734
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:40,799
more excited. And it's not like just because of Batman two.

735
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,839
It's the choices. It's the acting, like the actors that

736
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,519
they've picked, you know, very interesting choices. For me, the

737
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,480
next kind of shoe to drop, which it's not gonna

738
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,640
drop for a while, but the next shoe to drop,

739
00:33:54,039 --> 00:34:02,440
it's who, like, who do they get to play Batman?

740
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:08,920
And that's where for me it's just like, it's it's

741
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,480
so interesting of that that to me is like a

742
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,280
I don't know how to describe it. It's just I

743
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,119
can't wait for that day. On social media. I try.

744
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,480
I'd go on social media when it's like I'm on

745
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,280
the bus or I'm waiting to do something like if

746
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,119
I'm a doctor's point, but I try to like take

747
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,559
Stissa right or right before dress told you like now

748
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,480
or even now, I like went by look at some

749
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,960
people be like, Okay, what is going on right now?

750
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,119
At the timeline right for showing news because there's alway

751
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,960
stuff out there, but that's the day when it gets announced.

752
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,079
I'll be looking at people's reactions, and that to me

753
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,639
is like if that is another meek or mild choice,

754
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,800
And yeah, Mike, I see your question. If anyone has

755
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,400
any other questions, throw them in because I got like

756
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,199
probably it's like five minutes. I think we're winding down here,

757
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,559
So anything about DCU or Batman related, if that's another choice.

758
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920
I feel even the people that really love the dc

759
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,679
you're gonna feel it's gonna take that trailer. It's gonna

760
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,599
take some big optimism to get very excited for Brave

761
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,159
and the Bolt. I'm fine because I got the Batman

762
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,440
Part two and any other people are in my camp

763
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,199
and I'd love to see because I think Clay Fambly Clay,

764
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,440
who hosts Stars Lines. I think he liked the Flash,

765
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,519
but I wonder how he feels on this because he's

766
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,800
in that camp, right, and there are people out there

767
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,880
they're crazy, but he's someone that he did not like

768
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000
the Batman too, and he doesn't really care about that, right.

769
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:31,199
So let's see. I don't believe about Christina because the

770
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,559
Twitter are from twenty twenty three and we are in

771
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,679
twenty twenty six, Hunter Aggy, I don't have any clue

772
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,519
what that means, so you'd have to specify. I don't

773
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:43,119
believe Christina because the twitter are from twenty twenty three

774
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,199
and we're in twenty twenty six. You, like I said,

775
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,199
would have to clarify what that means because it doesn't

776
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,840
make much sense to me. But yeah, it's if they

777
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,960
ain't get like a big act. And I hope it's something,

778
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440
I'll say. I hope it's not Sklenar. I really hope

779
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,880
it's something the same way Reeves is done with Barry

780
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:06,280
or Pattinson or Zoe Kravitz. Some interesting choices. I just

781
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
don't want to eric one. Like I remember the day

782
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,039
Ben Afflete was cast as Batman, and I was all

783
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:12,960
for that I've told the story before, but no one's heard.

784
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,239
I remember I worked the best I have Kyle time

785
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,079
it broke and we had a bunch of that's in

786
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:18,840
the air where I would go to movies with thirty

787
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,280
forty people. They're all geeks and we're in that sphere,

788
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,800
and then you know, everyone grative or whatnot. I think

789
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,679
that or and I remember everybody not being a fan

790
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:29,400
of Ben athlete cast in mean car, like no, like

791
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,400
this is interesting, like it was a take and let's

792
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,239
see it. I was just more happy because I wanted

793
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,360
him to direct a Batman movie that didn't happen. Uh,

794
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,239
but I was like, I'm down. I hope that happens.

795
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,519
I'm really hoping it's not just a safe choice and

796
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:44,639
that could elevate the project. I don't know who, but

797
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,559
something out there, because no one thought that Ben Affleck

798
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,199
was gonna be doing Batman, right, so I would love that.

799
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,599
I think that's what gun needs, is some choice that

800
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:56,239
that's not just like the yes, Gnar he looks like him,

801
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,079
because I think that's Gunnar up to pass and it's

802
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:02,840
just it's not gonna have that same weight, right, Yeah, Hunter,

803
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,400
I still know you said returns the right Batman Brave

804
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,360
in the Bolt. I don't know I still know what

805
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,760
you're talking about when you said the because twitter are

806
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,840
from twenty twenty three, you'd have to very clarify. But

807
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360
I if I don't get more clarification, I cannot answer

808
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,679
that because I have no idea what you're talking about

809
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:21,960
there with that one. So but uh oh sorry, Yeah, Mike,

810
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,880
you said, how much weight do you think it's is

811
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,320
gonna be on Supergirl for dcu's future. That's I was

812
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,239
just thinking about that the other day. I can't remember.

813
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,760
Maybe it was another podcast I listened to and just

814
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,079
jogged my mind, and I think they were talking about

815
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,119
a similar thing, right, because I think even in our discord,

816
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,239
like where did s Bubbs put Supergirl? Did he have

817
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,840
it on his list? Here? Because join our discord everybody,

818
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,079
we talk about this whole time with people. Mike's doing

819
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,320
a top like a draft for twenty twenty six where

820
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,760
we put in our top ten movies we think will

821
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000
be number one to ten, doing the best Winter gets

822
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,920
pick a movie, loser has to watch a bad movie

823
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:58,480
and just off those recent list, right, like s Bubs

824
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:01,320
he didn't even put in Supergirl. Well, I haven't made

825
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,320
my list yet. I might do it on Tress told

826
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,199
you next week. I think I'm kind of in that realm,

827
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,239
like I no one has supercol yet, that's crazy. I'm

828
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,239
with Taylor that I think it's going to be more

829
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,679
of a Thunderbolt brave New World situation that it's like

830
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,760
I think that. I think if they were to hit

831
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,880
five hundred, they should be very happy with that. No,

832
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,920
I'll take that back. If they were to hit five hundred,

833
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,079
they should be fucking acstatic about that. Superman. I think

834
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,960
I've done this before, but Superman's official box office was

835
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,400
what like six point fifty one or Somethingman two twenty

836
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,800
If I let me, no one has searches up, I

837
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,920
got it pulled up here. It made a total of

838
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,639
prop just made made six sixteen okay lower if it

839
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:51,480
made five one hundred million a static you're doing backflips, right,

840
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,400
I think how much weight has We don't know as

841
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,599
fans at all. The two things that are going to

842
00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,480
come out about it for the waight One thing will

843
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,519
know once we won't. What's the final budget if it's

844
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,440
another like two hundred million, because Superman is two twenty five.

845
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,199
If it's two twenty five Eh, there could be a

846
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,119
lot of weight, right, But if they pitched it as

847
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:16,000
like hey, it's gonna be twenty twenty two thousand, it's

848
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,559
gonna be two hundred and twenty five million, We're hoping

849
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,400
Superman is gonna do well and we can build off

850
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,360
upon that and people will enjoy it and it might

851
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,119
not be the biggest hip, but we're hoping to get

852
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,079
the good will of people to love it and they'll

853
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,960
come back for Supergirl too, or may have to more

854
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,719
except right, or if it's if it's a smaller budget

855
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,519
and they just say, hey, we want to clear three

856
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,480
hundred million, and which I think is doable, right because

857
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,159
even Superman James kinda think he said somewhere like, hey,

858
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:43,679
they had a goal and they hit it and that's

859
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,400
like Kasai relief. Right, we don't know that the budget

860
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,840
we know and look at like ben Afflecktungbo budgets where

861
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,400
a twenty five million has to make a one hundred

862
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,840
million dollars to be successful nowadays. So it's like we

863
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,679
still don't even know how much can get mixed up everyone, right,

864
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,960
So the budget is one thing we can go off,

865
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,079
but it all the on how they pitched it. Right,

866
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,719
If they said, hey, we're doing Superman and Supergirl and

867
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,639
they're gonna have similar results, that to me is dumb.

868
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,239
There's no big star other than Mom, who's gonna be

869
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,039
in a small amount. There's no big stars in Supergirl,

870
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,239
like as the main character. Right, So I think all

871
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480
depends on what did they pitch this ass when they

872
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,320
say in the Netflix. If they said, hey, we're doing

873
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Supergirl and doing clay Face, we think they're gonna be

874
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,639
smaller budgeted movies. But we think and they might not

875
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,800
do amazing, but we think they're gonna do, like, be

876
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,360
very well received and we're gonna make people believe in

877
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719
this brand again. If they're kind of building blocks, that's fine, right.

878
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,880
That's kind of like with Thunderbolts, where it does suck

879
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,480
as I loved Thunderbolts. It sucks the box office, But

880
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,199
your hope is that on the lead up, because like

881
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,760
my sister asked me, she said, Hey, what what movie

882
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,679
should I like? I gotta catch up all these Marble movies?

883
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,039
And that not really in say thing, Ami. I think

884
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,119
there's a few. That's the benefit, right is when you

885
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,280
watch Thunderbolts and Lisa being a great movie, like, oh,

886
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,360
I really like these characters, that's the hope. So it's

887
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,039
like we ate it on that, but we're getting the

888
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:04,679
good will same thing. It's like, I know it's a

889
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,360
weird comparison, but like one battle after another, I think

890
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,519
it's not really like breaking even or just breaking it

891
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,320
even a little bit. But the idea is it's the

892
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,519
warm mouth and we're going into awards play and we

893
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:15,679
might win it. So it's like, sure, we might not

894
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,719
make all that money back because it was a massive budget,

895
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,760
but if we win Best Oscar, we get pta that

896
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Best Director, it's all matters because people will return to that. Right.

897
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,519
So that's the problem Mike, where I think it all

898
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,559
depends on how they pitched the disasse on company. If

899
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,440
I can answer, how much way do you think it's

900
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,199
gonna be on it? Yeah, I don't think much. And

901
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,239
then like to your follow up here, like what is

902
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,920
the alarm? Like how low can it go without alarms flashing? Hmm?

903
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,199
It sounds bad because I'm saying you have to be

904
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880
a static at five hundred, but it going under three

905
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,559
hundred is a concern. So that's a small window there, right,

906
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:02,360
I think it's under yeah, I think it's I think

907
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,199
I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say not

908
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,480
even three point fifty. I'll say, if it's under three hundred,

909
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,800
that is, there's some concern, right, But if the budgets slow,

910
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,400
you're fine. If the budget's low, you make a profit,

911
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,079
and then Supergirl can be in other stuff, right, That's

912
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:20,559
what will come down to. But I think if it's

913
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:22,599
three hundred, that is, that is a bit of a

914
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:25,400
I just alarmed for Supergirl. And again, I don't know

915
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:28,159
popular is okay? Andreg you said, I mean, I don't

916
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,239
believe that Christina Hodson as the writer for Batan, bar

917
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,840
and Bold because the tweets are from twenty twenty three

918
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320
and we're in twenty twenty six. I don't know what

919
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,199
you're teld because you said because the tweets are from

920
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,199
twenty twenty three and we're in twenty twenty six.

921
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Like, the.

922
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Story of it being her writing now is not from

923
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400
tweets from two twenty three. It's Scoopers right now reporting

924
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,639
that she's writing it. So if you're saying there's something

925
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,119
that people are showing that, that's like other tweets to

926
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:55,880
brack that up. I don't know about that, but her

927
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,559
writing it it's from people that have had gone stuff

928
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,320
right before. So I don't not to say, oh, for

929
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,679
sure she did right in it, but there's at least

930
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:04,599
smoke to that fire. Right. Let's see, I heard the

931
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,800
budget of Supergirl is less than one hundred and fifty million.

932
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,840
That would be good because that if even it was

933
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,760
one hundred and fifty million, And again, who knows, because well,

934
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,760
we'll get closer, right because Superman was all over it's

935
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,199
oh it's three hundred, it's actually one fifty, it's two hundred.

936
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,400
We won't we'll never really know, and we won't know

937
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,840
closer to if it's one hundred and fifty and they

938
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,280
can get to three hundred, which is what you kind

939
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,039
of do the double it. I think even if you

940
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:27,760
just get a little bit in the green, you should

941
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,239
be happy with Supergirl. Clay Face should be small budgeted, right,

942
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,880
so it should work out. But yeah, so I think

943
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,480
I think Supergirl. I think there's more on Mike. I

944
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,519
guess here's the other thing. I think the weight it's

945
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,719
on the qual of the movie because I don't care.

946
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,280
I know that we had test screenings and people said

947
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,840
it was like a lot of people would have raided it,

948
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,880
like a six or seven. Test screenings don't matter because

949
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,079
it's all very all Like opinions matter of course matter.

950
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:54,159
But I mean, like when you get to the GA,

951
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,800
it's the majority of people, right. I remember the test

952
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,239
screenings for BBSA, people plodding and saying it's on the

953
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,679
level of the Dark Knight. I know some people think that.

954
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
I'm not one of those people. I don't think it's

955
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,039
on that level. I'm not applauding for that, right, So

956
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,920
for me, uh, test screenings there, they're zimp They're nothing right.

957
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,360
Same thing. Imagine for twenty years later, you put a

958
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,039
test screen of Dylan Taylor. Dylan really did not Like

959
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:19,840
twenty years later, Bone Temple and Taylor gave it a

960
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,119
perfect score. What would you take from them from a

961
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,800
test screening. It's down to opinion and whatnot. And this

962
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,519
is even worse. It's not like, oh, a critic that

963
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:29,519
saw it. It's no, it's it could be a nobody.

964
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,039
It could be a guy that sees two movies here

965
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,480
like that was amazing, Well that was shit, or that

966
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:35,280
was always a girl lead. So we're gonna vomit like

967
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,480
you don't know, right, So I think the I think

968
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,119
for them it's more about quality because at least if

969
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,199
it's quality and go, damn, that didn't hit, how could

970
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,519
we change this and go around from that? At least

971
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:49,239
the people that saw it enjoyed it. If it's bad,

972
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,800
then it's you lose faith, which I thought happened a

973
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,280
lot with the DCU. I know people my fucking lips

974
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,400
to stem. I know a lot of people test screening

975
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,920
is Fragment two said it was awful, so not best

976
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,119
matric Uh yeah, And I don't think it was awful,

977
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,199
but we did on that sense, so Mike, there was

978
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,360
a lot of reshoots with that, right, so they could

979
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,519
have saw an awful cut of that movie. But I

980
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,119
think that's the thing where for me, I've always said this,

981
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,880
and I know people push back against me before me

982
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,119
and Ray from Flight Class Cast really don't agree on this.

983
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,159
But I tons of people think, oh, well, all the

984
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,639
reshoots and what happened with Zach and Joss coming in,

985
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:28,519
and all the controversy around Juste League, that's why I

986
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,320
kind of underperformed. To me, it underperformed because I met

987
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,639
I saw the suicide Squad or sorry, suicide Squad twenty

988
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,480
sixteen and BVS with a lot of people. When Justice

989
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,800
League rolled around, those people that I saw this movie with, oh,

990
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,400
I'd say sendy percent of them were like, I'm good.

991
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:46,360
I don't need to see Just League and not invested

992
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,880
in this universe. Whatever you think about that, that to

993
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480
me was a situation. How awcome Man hit a billion

994
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,840
right after that and the movies proceeded to underperform after

995
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:57,400
I'll never know, but to me it was you do

996
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:01,079
eventually lose on its same thing at MCU. I'm not

997
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:04,519
saying it's healthy putting out eight to nine projects a year,

998
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:08,639
but if they're all great, that that at least helps, right,

999
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,519
And I think that's still too much, but at least

1000
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,039
if they're good and people are enjoying them, people will

1001
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,159
still stick around more. If you're putting out that much

1002
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,639
and the quality is meant to bad, you'll easily lose

1003
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,039
people real fast, which we also saw at the MCU.

1004
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,119
I think there is some superhero fatigue. It's a marral fatigue.

1005
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:28,239
They've done too much. But there's it's no fucking like

1006
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,599
coincidence that a lot of these movies are doing lesser

1007
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,000
because it's not there like when people talk about ant

1008
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:38,360
Man three, and I'm some of those people that like,

1009
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,159
I don't think when people say a good movie and

1010
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:42,559
people come out, No, there's tons of good movies that bomb,

1011
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,239
But there's franchises and other things that if they expect

1012
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,159
certain quality and people go am and three that wasn't

1013
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:49,840
really that good, which I thought it was the first

1014
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,199
ever MCU project I failed. That's word of mouth's gonna spread, right, Like,

1015
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:59,000
that's what wordmouth still plays a factor into levels degrees,

1016
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,400
not all of it, but levels degrees of success. So

1017
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,239
there's no coincidence that the MSU started to put out

1018
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,440
lackluster content and it started to go down as far

1019
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,920
as quality, right or like, or as far as the

1020
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,960
the reception and money from fans. So it's just it's

1021
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:15,400
it's all there, right, So yeah, we'll we'll see. It's

1022
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,039
gonna be very interesting to see what people feel about

1023
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:21,239
this if it gets we'll see if gun also denies

1024
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,760
it too, right, that could be the case of that

1025
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:25,480
I talked about this for four minutes for nothing, But

1026
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,559
I think this is uh, you know, it was a

1027
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:30,840
fun time and I very much appreciate everyone of those

1028
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,639
here live thanks for joining in the late nights. Thanks

1029
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:35,880
for some of the weirdos being the chat. You know,

1030
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,760
if you if you pray for Jesus, that's all cool.

1031
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,039
I just you know, not for me. I got other

1032
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,480
things to do, you know, but thank you very much.

1033
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,440
If you're listening to audio now after this, you had

1034
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,119
a whole hour of me and Taroto about a bunch

1035
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:48,119
of other stuff. And I promise when you're from next

1036
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:48,760
will not be boring.

1037
00:47:48,840 --> 00:48:25,199
Speaker 2: Every good night.

1038
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Travis told you

1039
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:51,079
on a Tuesday, January twentieth. Fuck January twentieth. I think

1040
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,920
life's always moved by fast, but now especially that I

1041
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,199
do tras told you. I'm really quiet. Hopefully I'm not

1042
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:00,199
too loud for you now, Sorry if I was very

1043
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,400
But January twentieth, Travis told you the fact that I

1044
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,199
do this now most of the times, twice a week,

1045
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,719
and I have to read out the like, oh, January December.

1046
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,880
I know, I lived my life every day and I

1047
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,679
see this stuff. But saying it just on air and

1048
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,360
then seeing the calendar there, oh just crazy. But yeah,

1049
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,639
we're here. We are back for Travis told you supposed

1050
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:24,400
to be trust and Taylor told you as you see,

1051
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,760
But where's Taylor always like, doesn't matter. I got a

1052
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,559
tice schedule, so he will join us at some point,

1053
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,239
maybe not, who knows. Luckily I know how to fly

1054
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,639
the ship alone. But what I was gonna say is,

1055
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,360
so I haven't. Now it's studied me turn the music

1056
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,960
down just in case. I never know how loud is. Unfortunately,

1057
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,880
don't have anyone else here. But I hope everyone's doing

1058
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,400
well on this Tuesday here, on this January twentieth, whatever

1059
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,719
you want to say. I hope everyone's having a good week

1060
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,039
so far. Uh, if you don't follow Patroon or you're

1061
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:56,159
on YouTube Patreon. As I've said before, there is a

1062
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,039
free tier and you can get all the updates those

1063
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,519
that we do post those updates. We post the updates

1064
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,159
as far as hey even if it yeah, like I said,

1065
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,360
it's a free tier. Anything that's the schedule updates, we'll

1066
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,639
let you know. I did announce on the weekend. I

1067
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,400
think that trust on you for now is gonna be

1068
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,440
going to Tuesday and Thursday. The reason was some of

1069
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,639
the changes. It kind of works out because this Thursday

1070
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:20,599
it's gonna be just myself. I'm gonna be talking about

1071
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,000
the Oscars and then there'll be a couple of other

1072
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,119
ones like Worthering Heights. I'm just reviewing that, so it

1073
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:27,119
kind of works out as far as it's being the

1074
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,039
Thursday or Friday. The reason is so right now you

1075
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,239
can go on the feeds. Taylor and Kirkland reviewed Night

1076
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,400
of the Seven Kingdoms. They're gonna be doing that for

1077
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,360
the next six weeks. The only thing I'll get them

1078
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,559
to remind everybody, but I think it's like the third

1079
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,280
or fourth episode. Whenever super Bowl weekend is, they'll be

1080
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,639
skipping that episode. They'll do a two episode to catch

1081
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,239
up the week after. So because Taylor's away and it's

1082
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,280
also Super Bowl. So Kirkland also watched the Super Bowl.

1083
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,920
But that's one of our biggest nights as far as

1084
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,159
the trailers and everything like that. So yeah, I we decided, hey,

1085
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,360
let's let's let's put that as a Cormbo thing and

1086
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,599
oh anyways, what I was saying here was so we

1087
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:06,079
have that and we try our best not to double

1088
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,480
up on episodes on the feed because if people don't

1089
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,280
know it's behind the scenes. Sometimes it's all right, but

1090
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,719
lots of times when you put something out and the

1091
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,079
algorithm's going and the feeds up there. Oh this fucking

1092
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:21,760
guy three minutes late, three minutes late, this man is

1093
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,239
look at this.

1094
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,159
Speaker 3: I like to ease my way in here. Let you have,

1095
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,039
you know, your intro and stuff, because it's your show,

1096
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,000
eas away.

1097
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:30,599
Speaker 1: But anyways, so I was just talking about why this

1098
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:33,480
is on Tuesdays because if people that don't host podcasts

1099
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:36,519
or anything in the YouTube, anytime you release something, obviously

1100
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:39,159
it pushes down the feed and can kind of sometimes

1101
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,599
cut off the like it going to places, especially if

1102
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:44,440
someone's like, hey, I'm looking for Night at seven Kingdoms,

1103
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:46,960
I'm searching podcasts. If they pull a geek for some

1104
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,119
something else is on there, it might not show that episode.

1105
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,559
You most time, it's gonna show the newest episode. So

1106
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,920
the reason I'm doing that is because they got Night

1107
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,920
in Seven Kingdoms for the next five weeks. And then

1108
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,239
after that, I know there's multiple Sundays where me and

1109
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,760
the Gimmick Boys will be going because it's WrestleMania season,

1110
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,239
so there'll be lots of episodes dropping on like a

1111
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,320
Monday or Sunday at you know, eleven pm, stuff like that.

1112
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:10,239
And then in April we will be reviewing Euphoria, which

1113
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,960
starts Sunday, April twelve. So that's why there's just too

1114
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,159
many things that's not my music. There's too many things

1115
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,079
releasing already in the Monday that I just didn't want

1116
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,039
to develop. Granted, there will be times if life changes

1117
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:24,880
and I can't do the Tuesday, then I'll do the Monday,

1118
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,159
or if there's something massive breaking news, then sure, but

1119
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:28,880
that's gonna be kind of the working idea right now

1120
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,480
is Tuesday and Thursday going forward, and I'll say at

1121
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:33,480
least until your Fouria is done, because I'll be on

1122
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,159
most of those. We'll have to see if Taylor catches up,

1123
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,400
because the very first episode I might have something scheduled.

1124
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,039
I might if things work out, I might be in

1125
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,920
Vancouver or dial watching some wrestling. So I don't know

1126
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,760
if Kokhan wants to do a solo review. So if

1127
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,760
you do catch up on Euphoria, Taylor, let us know

1128
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,320
so we can plug you in there. But I am

1129
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,559
here joined by the Man and the legend. The I

1130
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:55,880
don't know the names because I guess it doesn't show

1131
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,039
names with these banners, but Taarfield.

1132
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,519
Speaker 3: I put a name in there that secret.

1133
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,199
Speaker 1: I guess let's see go let me hear of the

1134
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,400
banner that we will rock you. Why are you rocking me? Oh?

1135
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,559
I see, you know we have that. Yeah, today we're

1136
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,599
gonna be talking about some Star Wars news because we

1137
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:11,320
talked a little bit on after nime. We didn't do

1138
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,360
a deep dive, because that's why after nine we always

1139
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,880
go on many rants and tangents and whatnot. But I

1140
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,519
want to get tear his thoughts because he was not there,

1141
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:20,239
and just a few updates and some quotes from Kathleen

1142
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,000
Candy and some speculation, and then we'll talk about the

1143
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,719
twenty years box office and then yes, we'll talk about

1144
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,960
supposedly there is a B tier room around of the

1145
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:32,239
rock becoming the Scorpion King once again. But Tayarfield, how

1146
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:32,800
you doing.

1147
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: Doing good? Tired and you know, working away? Fired?

1148
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,639
Speaker 1: Why what's going on?

1149
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: Oh? You know, I just want to casinos late.

1150
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: At night, sinos? Oh my god? What you winning?

1151
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,559
Speaker 3: Not much? It's just been raising my family and your family,

1152
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,960
my family. Yeah, yeah, just planning and all that kind

1153
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,719
of stuff. But no, just yeah, late nights, figure out

1154
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,519
the schedule and work on my family book. That's been

1155
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,599
going well. So yeah, yeah, that's been a big, big

1156
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,480
project I've been tackling. Had some headway though. I found

1157
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,320
uh short tangent. It's in a way, I only have

1158
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,639
an hour. I went on to uh Facebook, and I

1159
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:13,039
was like, oh, you know what, let's look up like

1160
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,920
those facebookers. Sometimes people create groups for certain things like

1161
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,800
locations and places, and people just put photos of those locations.

1162
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,440
So I found a location where my family worked their business,

1163
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,719
and I reached out, commented, posted or whatever, and then

1164
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,519
these people were saying, oh, yeah, my great grandmother I

1165
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:29,719
used to work for your company. I'm like, holy crap,

1166
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,400
this is this is pretty sweet. Okay, so I'm trying

1167
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,840
to see if I get any uh any new deets

1168
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
coming from from there. But yeah, ancestry and family history,

1169
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:38,920
it's it's a good time.

1170
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very you're you're very You're very concerned with

1171
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,239
that or that that's a big concern. Like I my

1172
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,159
dad got me one of those things and has like

1173
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,760
just the online the tree and everything. I don't care.

1174
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,559
People reached out for me. It's like, oh that's cool

1175
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,519
related and then that's kind of it. I'll never talk

1176
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:56,280
to them again, you know. So that's what it's just

1177
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,440
like you're big into the lineage and everything, but h

1178
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,599
I am, yeah, are you worried there's gonna be some

1179
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,199
bad situation where the person's not related to but they're

1180
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,000
lying or something.

1181
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,039
Speaker 3: Well, that is the case with my grandma's my great

1182
00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:14,039
grandma on my grandma's side. There's a whole thing I'm

1183
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:16,239
trying to unravel, and it's very difficult to find because

1184
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,199
this is the Chinese factor right now. My great grandmother

1185
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,960
told my grandma like, hey, your dad is this white

1186
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,880
guy we got married? Da Da da da. But then

1187
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,960
my son disagrees. I looked into it and found that

1188
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,800
there's genetically I'm not related to who my great grandfather is.

1189
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,400
So and my grandmother has half siblings because I looked

1190
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,599
at the siblings that I'm related to on her mom's side,

1191
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:46,159
but not people on her dad's side, my great grandfather's side,

1192
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,960
reached out like, hey, we're like cousin, cousins whatever, Da

1193
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:50,800
da dada, And I'm like, hey, no, we're not, because look,

1194
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,760
we're not actually genetically related at all.

1195
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: We just, you know, they just wanted to come check

1196
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,800
on their cousin. We're not related, We're.

1197
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: Not my grandma's mom sneaked around with the chinaman. Uh,

1198
00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:07,079
that's that's pretty much. Yeah, I don't sorry, that's not

1199
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:08,920
the political term. I'm sorry, I don't know.

1200
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: Gonna be careful. That's it, you know, welcome back to

1201
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:20,039
just Tras told you. I think you're safe. But well,

1202
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,920
you know what, if you doesn't like Taylor's comment, you

1203
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,760
probably have a few more hours to fill out our

1204
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,639
survey so you can put anything negative in there. I

1205
00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:29,480
don't have the link here. It's in discord and stuff

1206
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,000
because we're we're gonna be recording that in about i know,

1207
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:35,119
eight nine hours from now or whatnot. Have you have

1208
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:36,639
you read any of the results? Are you going in

1209
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:38,000
but completely blind?

1210
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: I know I'm completely blind. I've seen what you sent,

1211
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
but I've not read anything. Is that something we're doing?

1212
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,880
What is that on the schedule today? Town hall?

1213
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: There you go? Oh fuck, I'm gonna write in the

1214
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,679
survey Taylor know what's going on? But yeah, we're doing

1215
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,000
our town hall. It'll be what we've been watching. There

1216
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,119
might be some news, but I don't know if they

1217
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,039
like there's not too much with me and taryor covering

1218
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:02,920
some today And I don't mind have the townhill is

1219
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,880
the only thing is sometimes that can go not like longer,

1220
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,679
but a full episode, because Yah, we're gonna talk about

1221
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:08,599
a bunch of stuff that you guys put in. Thank

1222
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:10,639
you everyone. I think it's the most responsible we've got before.

1223
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,679
Lots of kind words as we will talk about. I

1224
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,599
will say this on the town hall. We won't get

1225
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:18,719
into the kind words because we don't want to just

1226
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,039
be like a glaze fest for geek first, but this

1227
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:23,320
easily was the year people said the most kind of stuff,

1228
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,039
the nicest stuff. And I'll get into the town hall,

1229
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,320
but big thank you to people that are listening and

1230
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,119
very appreciative. I think you guys saw how hard we

1231
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:31,920
worked last year, and you guys are intent fold whether

1232
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,119
you're subscribing or the good surveys or Patreon, we really

1233
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,679
appreciate it. So yeah, tonight we're gonna go over just

1234
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,599
some thoughts you some things you put in. Even sometimes

1235
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:42,840
there are just questions or concerns about the show. No

1236
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:44,920
so much I got. I guess there's like two concerns

1237
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,599
which I have no problem answering or whatnot, or just

1238
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,559
I think it's good because I think sometimes I see

1239
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,599
stuff in here and I can definitely tell might people

1240
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:55,159
that haven't listened before, because we'll again say that someone said, hey,

1241
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,000
you should do a Patreon feed for like early episodes.

1242
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,480
It's like, well, we got that, Like it's there, like

1243
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:02,840
Phase two, it's there. So that's why I understand that

1244
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,559
sometimes we do plugs at different times or different episodes,

1245
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:07,440
you might not hear everything we talk about. So the

1246
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,800
tunnel is always good, like, hey, this is our plan

1247
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,079
going forward. We're not really changing much content as far

1248
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:14,679
as the schedule wise. We kind of set that up

1249
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,239
every year, but there's one thing we might be adding

1250
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,960
when we top oft the survey. So yeah, there'll be

1251
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,639
some fun stuff in there. So it's a good time.

1252
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,440
And yeah, it'll just be us chill and hanging out,

1253
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,599
so you can join us tonight for that. And then yeah,

1254
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:30,119
let's get into this tailor. So we talked about this

1255
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:32,280
the week before because there was a report that came

1256
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,199
out and said, hey, Kathleen Kennedy, she's stepping down. It's

1257
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:37,400
going to be these two replacementers should be happening next

1258
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,639
week and yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, credit to

1259
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,480
the I can't remember the Oh Puck News, credit them

1260
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,519
because they were fulling right that they have the people

1261
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,159
that replaced her. She's stepping down. As of this week,

1262
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:50,239
she's stepping down, Taylor. The era of Kathleen Kennedy is over.

1263
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:54,039
Obviously we weren't sure was this a is she going

1264
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,800
to announce her replacements and then she's there for a while,

1265
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,719
But she's done. She's still technically, of course a producer

1266
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:03,800
a man Lauren Grogu and h Starfighter, but then other stuff.

1267
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,440
She might just be an EPM, but those are her

1268
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:07,920
last two. This is, I guess, something that's been in

1269
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,119
the work for two years, which kind of makes sense

1270
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:14,719
because I feel like from actual scoops, like big time sources,

1271
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,400
I could say like be or higher, we've heard like, oh,

1272
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,920
she's on her way out. So it kind of makes

1273
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,440
sense that maybe why two years has been maybe that

1274
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:23,519
was the idea of k pick the two people, or

1275
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:25,920
pick the people and then you're gonna train them. So also,

1276
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,239
we're not gonna talk We'll talk about Foaloni today, but

1277
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:30,119
we're not gonna talk about those choices as much because

1278
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:32,679
we did a whole cast about that last week and everything.

1279
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:34,400
We're I'll just ask you, were you surprised that it

1280
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,039
was an immediate step then, and not like a hey,

1281
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,039
here's my replacements, it's a hey by the end of

1282
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:42,480
this week. Obviously, we won't see all the repercussions. I

1283
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,599
still think for a couple of years, because you know,

1284
00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:46,719
I maybe star celebrating on out some stuff. But were

1285
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:49,159
you surprised that it was kind of immediately that hey,

1286
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,800
by the end of this week in January. Kathleen Kendy

1287
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,039
is a don Alt lucasfilm in a sense. I'm sure

1288
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:55,599
she'll always be welcome back, et cetera.

1289
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,199
Speaker 3: You know, well, I'll be in the regular It'll be

1290
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,159
like the George Lucas kind of thing, like, oh, you know, George,

1291
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,119
You're always welcome to come back. You know, you got

1292
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:04,639
a new script. Yeah, let's take a look at that.

1293
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:05,039
Speaker 1: You know.

1294
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: Uh, but I think I don't.

1295
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,199
Speaker 1: Know of that. They might ask her, but I don't.

1296
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,199
They don't have to, they don't have to listen to her,

1297
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:13,519
you know.

1298
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's something that's just been Yeah, it's

1299
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:18,639
been cooking for a while. We've all kind of just

1300
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:22,239
prepared been preparing for this some sooner than others with

1301
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Red Eye thumbnails and whatnot.

1302
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Yes, but which also we're not gonna get in this

1303
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,360
because we don't know what it is. But apparently LA

1304
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,159
times are more than Disney's expect announce their next CEO

1305
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:35,079
next month, So even Iigers soon to be on his

1306
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:36,800
way out. Sounds like, are these the plans?

1307
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: Tigers the problem? The problem person? Right, he's the one

1308
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,239
who's for Ben Solo squashed.

1309
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:45,519
Speaker 1: I think they're all the problem people, you know, like

1310
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:47,639
I don't. I think Star Wars. What I learned from

1311
01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:50,199
last week is I feel like in general we're just

1312
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,039
kind of we might just be fucked because we learned

1313
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:55,639
about that before. Because everything I'm not a red I

1314
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,559
thumbnail guy. I think Kathy Kennedy talked about before me

1315
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:00,840
and he even did a cast in summer. We literally

1316
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,639
called it that she has fifty to fifty percent as

1317
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:04,639
far as wins and Star Wars, and she took over

1318
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,119
and losses. And that's not bad because look at like

1319
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:10,239
the fucking DCEU that was nothing but losses. You know,

1320
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:13,239
there's other universe nothing but losses. So I thought she

1321
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,719
did a good job at the start, and then as

1322
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:17,719
things went along and got rocky, right, but then so

1323
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,840
it's always a go she's the problem. We'll have to

1324
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,559
go to Flonia or someone else and then like you

1325
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:23,360
said to her that Soul News came out and say, okay,

1326
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,119
it's Eiger. But then also we've heard with the Acolyte

1327
01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:28,800
or again what got reported now which I have up

1328
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,559
here by an A Tier Scooper. Now Foloni has come

1329
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:34,800
out to deny it, but an A Tier Scooper putting

1330
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,559
out that hey, we hear that he didn't like and

1331
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:40,239
or that means like more than enough people are, you

1332
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,519
know talking about Hey, like I don't know if Dave

1333
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:45,400
likes and I don't think I'm not saying Davis like

1334
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,280
I hate like it says it's like I need this

1335
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,639
cance whatnot, but like we all have that, right, it's

1336
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:53,280
the same way. It's like you look at even Dylan, right,

1337
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,400
but like if like Dylan Kirkland and myself and Taylor

1338
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,360
talk about what we like in Star Wars, Taylor loves

1339
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,239
Star Wars, but I we don't like the same things.

1340
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,159
We don't like the whole Like he loves the Clone

1341
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:11,760
and Captain Aspect, and I love the Star Wars like

1342
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,960
the Force Lightsabers all that could jazz right, So I

1343
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,599
can understand that. I think it's just it's also tough

1344
01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:20,760
when you're in a company wise where you have to

1345
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,719
you have and Or that has all these awards and

1346
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,400
all this recognition, and then you have all of the

1347
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,159
other stuff that's very iffy, you know, like it's not

1348
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,159
been the perfect track record since I'd say it's been

1349
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:38,079
really rocky since obviously i'd say like Boba feed because

1350
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,440
I know people'll throw Rise of Skywalker up, but that

1351
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:42,199
was the end of a trilogy. And then they had

1352
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:44,320
mandalorin right now and that picked them up right away,

1353
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,400
right and that kind of reunited the fan base for

1354
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,039
a little bit. I think with and Or, that's the

1355
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:50,840
thing that sucks the most, is that happens. But what

1356
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,400
I was saying to Taylor is, even to Kathleen Candy

1357
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,239
last week, who we talked about this on Laftter nine,

1358
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,400
who knows if she is telling the truth, who knows

1359
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,039
she's lying, same thing as Ryan Johnson. But for her

1360
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:05,000
in this exit interview to say, oh, you know, I

1361
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,679
think Ryan Johnson got a little spooked. I found that

1362
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:11,760
a little a little odd because it feels like almost

1363
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,920
all the Star Wars stuff, anytime controversy happens, no director's

1364
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,480
spoken out, no director said anything, it's just been oh,

1365
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:21,760
creative differences. Oh, I'm happy to work with stars like

1366
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,440
even Phil Lord and Miller, like, oh we've got like

1367
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,519
if you look at all those statements, I think they're

1368
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:29,000
quiet after but all of them are very hunky dory. Right,

1369
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,800
So I gets she's leaving, but it felt odd to me.

1370
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,280
And maybe it's the truth. Maybe that's she's saying that, right,

1371
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:36,559
but it felt odd to me for her to single

1372
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:38,880
him out and say he got spooked by the fan base.

1373
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,480
Uh again, could be true. I get him pushing back. Now,

1374
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,039
if he did get spooked, then I don't know why

1375
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,320
he'd pushed back, but I get him pushing back. So

1376
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,159
that's why it's for me, like even that comment on

1377
01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:51,559
her way out, and I'm not like, oh this makes

1378
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:54,639
me hate Kathleen. No, She's a great executive produced many

1379
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:56,920
films I've loved in the past. This hasn't changed my

1380
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,239
day at all, Right, but I found it odd that

1381
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,519
she singled them out and said that. So for me,

1382
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:05,920
between Iiger and Felony and Kathleen, we don't know who

1383
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,280
the trust because the thing is one we hear maybe

1384
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,119
twenty five percent of what actually goes on and two.

1385
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,079
All them probably feel differently about Star Wars. If you

1386
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,480
were to get them in a room, think what does

1387
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:19,920
Star Wars be? Iiger, Kathleen, and Filony might have all

1388
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,679
different answers. So that's why I can't. I don't think

1389
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:24,360
there's like a good guy or a good person. Not good,

1390
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,920
but you mean in the sense of creative right, So yeah,

1391
01:04:28,159 --> 01:04:30,880
it was it was odd to hear her say that,

1392
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,519
and then you know, good for Ryan to put that

1393
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:35,079
out there. So super Mike says, the very existence of right,

1394
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:39,000
sky Walker prus it's lucasfilm itself was spooked. That whole

1395
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:44,039
movie was backpedaling. That's right, because I've seen a lot

1396
01:04:44,119 --> 01:04:46,320
of people come out against Johnson and be like, oh, well,

1397
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,960
you know, like they're like bringing up tweets in the past,

1398
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,239
him arguing with people like people about his movie on

1399
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Twitter and whatnot, which is probably not a great idea.

1400
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,199
But I never took that as like, oh, that confirms

1401
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,280
he's spooked. And sure, maybe he is right, Maybe he was,

1402
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,079
maybe he he aunced that trilogy. And then after I

1403
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,239
went to Kathleen went, you know what, let's wait till

1404
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:04,679
it calms down, or you know what, I don't want

1405
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:08,199
to do this anymore, that's fine. But he had nothing

1406
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:12,920
to do with Rise of Skywalker to super Bad Mike's point, right,

1407
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,599
he had zero to do with that. He had zero

1408
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,039
to do with Fall, like firing Colin Chavarro. And I'm

1409
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:22,840
sure all studios DC Marvel have a times where they

1410
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,559
get spooked in the backpedal, but in the public, Star

1411
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:28,599
Wars has done that more than anybody as far as

1412
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,920
the Big three, even all franchise in I'd say like

1413
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,920
the last twenty years, right, Colin Chavarro, even without his movie,

1414
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,840
because some people said, oh he directed that. I've never

1415
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,840
seen the Book of Henry movie supposedly was like really bad.

1416
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:43,199
And then that's another reason they took away from right.

1417
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:45,679
You could say they got spooked with that, They got

1418
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:48,599
spill spooked with Lord and Miller, they got spooked with

1419
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:51,320
fucking Garrett Edwards. Right, They had Tony Gilroy come in

1420
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,320
and reshoot a bunch of rogue one. So they have

1421
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,000
a history of being spooked and changing stuff right, even

1422
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:59,280
to a smaller degree. I think that's something that happened

1423
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,920
with grogu make this big effort, this big faally, this

1424
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,679
big moment of Luke. Excuse me this big mo of

1425
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,039
Luke Skywalker taking mcgrogu. What were we gonna do with Mando

1426
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:10,599
and the crew all along? When we get to see

1427
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:13,480
Grogu next, guess what, You just gotta wait six months

1428
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:14,960
or something and you'll see him in a whole different

1429
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,000
show and he's back. You know, Like they have a

1430
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,280
track record of being spooked, So it was odd of

1431
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,360
her to say, and not even that just add of

1432
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,480
unless like maybe she maybe she had a text shame

1433
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,440
with Ryan Johnson recently and she's saying, oh, what fuck

1434
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,920
that guy, like he said something to do right, Like

1435
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:31,119
it just felt odd and the whole time of sure

1436
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:35,039
they've been spooked, but the entire time of Star Wars,

1437
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:39,559
they've been very good at being very quiet. DC's not

1438
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,320
had that. DC's had a bunch of people speak up,

1439
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,400
even on the Marvel side. Right even you go to

1440
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,079
like whether he's justly fired or not, like Bo DeMeo,

1441
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,480
it's like that thing happened right, or other directors happen

1442
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:51,320
where it's like they kind of talk, or the Scarjo

1443
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,760
thing happened right where it's like, sure they didn't say anything,

1444
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,320
but you guys are in a lawsuit. So there's some

1445
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,199
bad stuff going on there Star Wars. When everything drops

1446
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,400
and a person goes away, it's still like, oh no,

1447
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:03,159
we're a big, happy family over here. So I'm not

1448
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:05,400
saying it wasn't even a shot. It was just weird

1449
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:07,920
of her to say that. So I would throw the

1450
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,960
tail field. But he had to Doug bounce out to

1451
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,239
go check on his baby. So I will go check

1452
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,840
on him, or I'll I'll ask him that when he

1453
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,719
gets back. But that's the interesting thing. Oh, that's what

1454
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:20,239
we talked about that with Iiger, with him on his

1455
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,639
way out too, Marvel going through some Marvel Disney Star

1456
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:25,679
Wars going through some big changes the next few years.

1457
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:28,039
And again I don't think the last CEO worked out

1458
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:30,320
well for them for a multitude of reasons. So the

1459
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,639
same thing as far as like, what is gonna happen

1460
01:07:32,719 --> 01:07:36,599
with all these brands, what's gonna happen after I'm very

1461
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:43,280
interested in twenty twenty eight, barring any delays, right because

1462
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,519
right now you have the Batman and manter Man of Tomorrow. Fuck,

1463
01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:49,480
I'm gonna make that slip a bunch of times, Man

1464
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:51,559
of Tomorrow coming out within six months to each other,

1465
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:54,519
what's that gonna do? James Gun's contract expires in twenty

1466
01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:57,719
twenty seven. They have now you can hear my babies

1467
01:07:58,159 --> 01:08:01,519
twenty twenty seven Netflix. You'll probably be finalized by then.

1468
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,239
Like I said, what's Gun and Saffron'm you gonna do?

1469
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,360
So you have that? Right? Yeah? There you go need

1470
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,960
a cost We spoke out too, and she's somebody that

1471
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,960
I really respect how she spoke out. And I really

1472
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,719
like Needa a cost As, Like I see in her

1473
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,840
interviews like what did I just saw a clippery yesterday

1474
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,000
talking about oh last CHEDI of course, but like I

1475
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:20,520
really like her. I son't seen head Up, but Canny

1476
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,479
Man loved the twenty eight years later the second one

1477
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,800
here Bone Temple will talk about. But so you have

1478
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,760
that Star Wars, You're gonna have Starfighter coming out and

1479
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,520
that's when. Now if we're gonna movee in twenty twenty

1480
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,439
eight or twenty twenty nine, not only the reception, but

1481
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,039
it's like, hey, what are Felony and lynn Win? I

1482
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:39,159
can't remember her last name, but Lynwin's gonna be announced?

1483
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:40,239
What's the direction they're going?

1484
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1485
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,039
Speaker 1: And then with Marvel, what happens with all these because

1486
01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:47,039
if Secret Wars is a big fucking massive hit, then

1487
01:08:47,079 --> 01:08:48,760
they're rolling in the shit again and they can start

1488
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,079
a new with X Men de other stuff. But what

1489
01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:52,720
happens if it's critically bad, like rights a Skywalker make

1490
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,239
some money? What happens if Doomsday is bad and Secret

1491
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,000
Wars suffers is from that? What if there's all the scenarios? Right,

1492
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,520
So twenty twenty eight, I cannot wait to get there

1493
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,920
from a podcasting standpoint, because the landscapes we're it's like

1494
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,600
we're in the middle of the war and then we're

1495
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,920
gonna see the aftermath of all that. So it's gonna

1496
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,960
be very interesting. But yeah, need a costa. The way

1497
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,760
she's spoken out, she even said this way, Oh, I'm

1498
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,439
super cool Kevin, like he brought me to the set.

1499
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,960
I loved that. She was very serious of like, hey,

1500
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,479
I pitched them a movie. We made a movie. It

1501
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,000
didn't did not end up being the movie I wanted

1502
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,920
to make, but that's happen. That's what happened. And then

1503
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,119
even recently she said, you know what, that's not really

1504
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:30,159
needed to cost a film. It's a it's like a

1505
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:32,279
family film, right, And to me, it doesn't feel like

1506
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:34,199
the way of some people, And I get why Fincher

1507
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:35,640
did it, but some directors do that. Right if the

1508
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,279
studio gets too much a whole thing, go all that,

1509
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:40,600
that movie's not for me. Now. I'm gonna let any

1510
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,720
director talk for themselves if they feel like they got

1511
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,560
really fucked over and they didn't want to claim this

1512
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,159
movie that's fun. But I like to just kind of like,

1513
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:50,119
you know what, it was a a partnership there of

1514
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:52,199
making it. I'm sure she hopefully got paid well. The

1515
01:09:52,199 --> 01:09:53,880
Marls didn't work out, but like I'd still like to

1516
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,640
see her do something. And I didn't hate the Marvels

1517
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,239
like other people. It's it's lower tier, don't get me

1518
01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:01,119
wrong here. But yeah, so I'll a question when we

1519
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:04,079
get back. But so this has brought up something where

1520
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:08,760
where should I go first? Maybe I'll go to this

1521
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,840
question here, let me or this story here first because

1522
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,199
this kind of sets up some things here, So I

1523
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,239
do that question. Maybe maybe I'll do that question first

1524
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:22,359
because I can rant on this a little bit more. So.

1525
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:24,520
This is from John Patron. John, so thank you very much.

1526
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,760
A couple after nins ago he made his debut. So

1527
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,279
I'll answer this and this is still star Wars related

1528
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:30,840
and then we're getting to the other kind of stories

1529
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,119
around the article. But he asked, should Star Wars franchise

1530
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:36,960
be looking to create a new era of characters at

1531
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,279
this point we're continuing in the Skywalker solo is the

1532
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:44,920
better option? He's saying. I felt so heldon Crew was

1533
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,840
a good example of being a place new characters in

1534
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,920
storyline and familiar universe within Star Wars lore and create

1535
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,800
something interesting. Right. That's why I have a lot of

1536
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,359
hope with It's funny you think you were in that

1537
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:57,239
conversation a little bit too it because Clay asked, like,

1538
01:10:57,279 --> 01:10:59,399
what can you do to really fix Star Wars? Right?

1539
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,760
I think it's not not like den the Water. I

1540
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,399
could still make a lot of money. It's just in

1541
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,640
a very it's in a you have to rehabit a

1542
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,000
little bit. Because I said the three options where you

1543
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:16,359
gotta go either very far forward or very far backwards. Right,

1544
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,600
that's one of the others where it's like, Okay, you're

1545
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,439
telling stories that are really not linked to it, like

1546
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,079
a House of Dragon. It is, but you know what

1547
01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:24,600
I mean, where you don't have to worry about the

1548
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,920
direct thing. You could do that, but as of right now,

1549
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,680
it seems like they're not doing that. Starfire is only

1550
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,159
five years ahead and we hear nothing but Nights are

1551
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:34,279
a republic, right or even high republic. So that's option

1552
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:38,239
one is far forward, far backwards. The second option, which

1553
01:11:38,279 --> 01:11:40,479
I know a lot of people don't like, is for me,

1554
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,520
the reboot to remake, I would be completely fine. I

1555
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,239
know people might think that's sacrileged. But if they said

1556
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,159
we're gonna put out our slates and then in twenty

1557
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:51,840
thirty we're doing Star Wars New Hope, like maybe they

1558
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,680
retail but we're remaking that, or even know, if we're

1559
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,600
remaking a Phantom Menace, I'd be fine with it. Like

1560
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,720
I would because to me, it's like, you know what,

1561
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,720
you kind of get out of the situation you are

1562
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,319
now because the third option is you have to try

1563
01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:06,840
and salvage it, which that's never that's always tough, right

1564
01:12:07,239 --> 01:12:09,119
look at we're seeing that right way now with Marvel.

1565
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:11,119
It's different because Marvel's a lot of big, heavy hitters.

1566
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:13,159
But look at like the year twenty twenty three with

1567
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,359
DC when they're trying to salvage the slight they had

1568
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,880
Flash Shazam, Aquaman, Blue Beetle, the audience checked the fuck out. Now,

1569
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,000
there's a lot of comic movies that year. Granted, sure

1570
01:12:22,039 --> 01:12:24,920
that's another reason, but on all of those characters at property,

1571
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,159
the audience checked out Transformers after eventually Bay was killing

1572
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:31,319
it and putting all these billion dollar movies out. But

1573
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,399
then whichever one happened before the Last Night happened, people

1574
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,640
started to check out. And then last Night didn't hit

1575
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,880
a billion, and then Bumblebee happened, and then Rise of

1576
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,680
the cod the Beasts or whatever, and then Transformers one.

1577
01:12:45,119 --> 01:12:47,640
That's the problem is when you have to salvage something,

1578
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,079
you had to put a lot more work in it.

1579
01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:52,239
So that's why for me and Taya's coming back, and

1580
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:54,760
you might think it's sacrilege, but I would be completely

1581
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,119
fine if they said, yeah, we're just remaking Star Wars

1582
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,119
and starting a new because you have no baggage, and

1583
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:00,880
because to me it's like all then the story ends

1584
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,960
with nine, and I'm not happy with nine, but like

1585
01:13:03,359 --> 01:13:05,239
it's over and you can go somewhere else and do

1586
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:07,479
it with new actors and whatnot. So Tayo, while you're.

1587
01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:12,399
Speaker 3: Gone, No, no, so if you redo, you redo everything. Yeah,

1588
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,439
then why would they redo everything, just they can go

1589
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,239
back and tell the stories with the original trilogy and

1590
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,199
with Luke Skywalker and stuff. I mean this it's a

1591
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:20,479
sandbox right like this, but.

1592
01:13:20,399 --> 01:13:22,279
Speaker 1: They don't play in that sandbox they stay in.

1593
01:13:22,319 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: They don't and that's that's their fault. And then again,

1594
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,000
if you redo everything and just go back to the

1595
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:29,039
original trilogy, I mean, it's gonna be the same story,

1596
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:31,560
same characters, some different new aesthetics and new takes, but

1597
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,840
you're gonna be You're gonna struggle just the same. It's

1598
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,479
not change. If they can't play in the sandbox and

1599
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,640
give us what we want, like not what we want,

1600
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,960
but give us great new characters, new stories in this

1601
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:44,399
universe in other areas and aspects which they've tried, then

1602
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,479
I do not trust them to do a whole reboot

1603
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,439
of that original trilogy which we're familiar with, because it's

1604
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,840
gonna damage and it's gonna make the original trilli prop

1605
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,840
even higher. So they need to play in the sandbox,

1606
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,960
play with like god, and just get better. I mean,

1607
01:13:56,279 --> 01:13:58,840
like you've pitched this before. They need to go to

1608
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,279
the old report Public High Republic era.

1609
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,399
Speaker 1: So, like Mike says, I don't think we've I don't

1610
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,880
think Foloni is doing anything like that. Acolyte was the

1611
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,800
test that failed, and now they're like, ah, we're not

1612
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,560
going to do that. We've we got the game Nights

1613
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,359
Over Puck announced. But here's my counter though, don't you

1614
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:17,239
think the quality of Blast Jedi and uh Ryce Skywalker

1615
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:19,479
it hurts Force Awakens a bit because those movies are

1616
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,640
so messy, because Forest Awake ends and you have all

1617
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,000
this stuff to look forward to, and then when you

1618
01:14:24,039 --> 01:14:26,319
get to A and nine it's a mess. So like,

1619
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,079
if you continue and this is my thing of as

1620
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:31,479
a Starfighter, and we'll talk about like trilogy and Ray

1621
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,680
Movie all this stuff, if those are bad or continue

1622
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,479
to underwhelm, that starts to hurt even more so the original.

1623
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,640
It doesn't hurt the quality of the Original trilogy in the

1624
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,760
sense of those movies they can stand alone, but the continual,

1625
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,279
the continuality of them, the storyline, the characters that go throughout,

1626
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:51,720
like lots of people they like, for example, right like

1627
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,760
I don't feel this way, but look at Indiana Jones

1628
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,479
style and Justyle Destiny, Dyald Destiny. Lots of people hate

1629
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,439
that Harrison for or oh god damn it, and he

1630
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,119
had Jones ended up depressed and he was divorced and

1631
01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:07,199
his son was dead, and people like, man, that sucks.

1632
01:15:07,319 --> 01:15:10,159
Now the Indiana Jones ending character is that I don't

1633
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,039
feel that way. But I'm saying that's where when you said, yeah,

1634
01:15:13,039 --> 01:15:14,840
there's a lot of baggage if your reboot, but if

1635
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,800
you continually start to make stuff that sucks, then you're like,

1636
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,880
then you're hurting the overall, like you're hurting all those

1637
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,079
stuff that come from past, Like not in a vacuum.

1638
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:26,479
You can still watch Empire Strikes Back and be great.

1639
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,520
But I'm saying, in the sense of it all going

1640
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,199
as one line, that's where I'd say I would be

1641
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:33,600
completely fine if they said I would go with reboot,

1642
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,439
not remake. I wouldn't want them remake the movie. But

1643
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,680
if they're like, hey, we're gonna start from Vanomenace and

1644
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,479
things are gonna be really different, Like if they're like, Okay,

1645
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,800
this time we're turning Obi Wan Innovator and Anakin, like

1646
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,520
I would do, I'd be down for shit like that,

1647
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,000
where it's like we're gonna tell a new mythos and

1648
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:48,199
do our own thing, you know.

1649
01:15:48,199 --> 01:15:51,199
Speaker 3: M hmm, yeah, And that's I think there's a place

1650
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:54,319
for stuff like that, I really do. But I just

1651
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:58,279
think they need to If people aren't liking what they're doing,

1652
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,239
then that means that it's it's it's the people that

1653
01:16:01,279 --> 01:16:04,279
they have employed writing and creating and doing these things.

1654
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:06,439
The actors and actresses can only do so much with

1655
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,359
what they're given. And I mean, in Acolyte, we got

1656
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:13,960
some damn good performances and that's you know, it's tough

1657
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,039
to say that too, because they were given some pretty

1658
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:20,399
rough things to work with. But I think at the

1659
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,039
end of the day, it's it's it comes down to

1660
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:25,399
company internal stuff and they need to really get their

1661
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,000
their stuff sorted out. I think they need to look

1662
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,880
at like a point A to point C and just

1663
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:33,800
really focus on that. Because, yeah, Force Awakens, that was

1664
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,079
like the most Force Awakens in Rogue one, two, Unified Fronts.

1665
01:16:37,079 --> 01:16:38,960
Everyone was there, it was Star Wars. It was back

1666
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:41,920
billion dollar movies, and of course that continues to the

1667
01:16:42,279 --> 01:16:45,479
sequel trilogy. But the sequel trilogy just was riding off

1668
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:50,520
of that Star Wars hype and that excitement. So I yeah,

1669
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,479
I just think that when it comes to these movies,

1670
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,159
they need to commit to a start and a finish

1671
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,600
and I mean, you know, Mike and the Chattis trilogy

1672
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,119
here we come. I don't need something like that, but

1673
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:05,960
I think that they should have focused on and I'll

1674
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,159
petition this and I'm probably a minority, but an Air

1675
01:17:08,199 --> 01:17:11,720
to the Empire trilogy like the book series, that would

1676
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,720
have just been a perfect focal point for a sequel.

1677
01:17:15,119 --> 01:17:18,039
Speaker 1: Well, they were doing that, but that sounds like that.

1678
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:20,880
That was its funny. We talked about that last week

1679
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,720
where we said, oh, if he gets this gig that job,

1680
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,279
that movie's probably done right now. In the report last week,

1681
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:28,600
it just said that the movie Dave Filoney's mano Verse

1682
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,199
crossover movie is on the back burner. But at the

1683
01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:34,439
same point when Kathleen Kennedy it was asked, but the

1684
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,560
Hunt for Ben Soul that also, she said that was

1685
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,359
on the back burner as well, So she didn't say

1686
01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:41,119
that was dead, but all people said that movie is dead.

1687
01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:44,439
So for me, like her, same backburner me means all

1688
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,159
that following movie is probably dead. If if the solo

1689
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:49,520
movie's on the back burner and even Adam Drivers like

1690
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,439
this movie is dead, that means that's done. The manoverse

1691
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,600
movie is supposedly supposed to have. We kind of knew this,

1692
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,359
but manlorin Ahsoko, the Book of Effect and the Skeleton

1693
01:17:59,399 --> 01:18:01,880
Crew kids going against Throng, so you're supposed to have

1694
01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:03,920
all that going on. So it sounds like they were

1695
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:06,479
trying to go that way, but I for whatever reason,

1696
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,439
they're not anymore.

1697
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,520
Speaker 3: So the Skeleton Crew kids against Thrown, I don't know

1698
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,239
how I feel about that. I don't know if they're

1699
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,960
but what it came with you Law, I don't know. No,

1700
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:20,279
I can't gonna make a difference with the battle against Thron,

1701
01:18:20,359 --> 01:18:21,159
but I mean, that's.

1702
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: He gonna help out. But if that's not gonna either

1703
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,239
this Bob, that's not gonna No.

1704
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: I would much rather see Jude Law get used in

1705
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,039
a different sort of light because he's a force user,

1706
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:35,920
that's not a Jedi, just a he's just out there

1707
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,199
doing his thing. He's a he's a pirate, right, a smuggler, scoundrel,

1708
01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:40,239
and I like that a lot.

1709
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:43,239
Speaker 1: But because how this how this let off? As John

1710
01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:45,560
asked our patron questions, said should start? And you talked

1711
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,000
about this a little bit, but he said should start

1712
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,760
as franchise be looking to create a new era and

1713
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,520
characters at this point are continuing the Skywalker saw a

1714
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,560
solo storyline that the better option, and I guess and

1715
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,079
he said, I felt like Skeleton Crew is a good

1716
01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:59,000
example being plays through characters in storyline film, a familiar

1717
01:18:59,039 --> 01:19:01,840
universe within the stars War aren't creating something interesting, And

1718
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,560
for me, that's where I'm kind of hoping Starfighter is

1719
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,319
that even though it sounds like raised in there, because

1720
01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:09,439
we haven't talked about this before, but they spoiled that

1721
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,239
there's at least light They said, a lightsaber battle, and

1722
01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:14,079
I don't have this in the news because we don't

1723
01:19:14,119 --> 01:19:16,119
have time to talk about it. I don't know, like

1724
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,119
I feel like I know they're not gonna be sit,

1725
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:21,680
but Sith Dark said, use whatever they got to be

1726
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,119
in this thing, because like, if there's a lightsaber battle,

1727
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:26,279
it's not a practice, it's not a duel, it's a battle.

1728
01:19:26,319 --> 01:19:29,199
It's like, okay, the ray or somebody's fighting something. And

1729
01:19:29,239 --> 01:19:31,920
I imagine they're gonna have a red lightsaber in and.

1730
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: When they say lightsaber battle, it couldn't be just like, uh,

1731
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,359
what's a good example.

1732
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:39,079
Speaker 2: You have?

1733
01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: They're always red, red, always red. But let's say let's

1734
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,720
say like in a Soca and that like penultimate episode,

1735
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,279
you've got Morgan El'sbeth with her energy swords versus Ah

1736
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:53,680
Soca's lightsaber. Right, so it's like, that's not a lass,

1737
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,319
but it's not. That's a lightsaber battle, but it's not.

1738
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,760
Both parties aren't rocking sabers, right.

1739
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: That's not she doesn't have sabers. I don't count that

1740
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:01,199
at all.

1741
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 3: So Elsbeth or Ah Soca.

1742
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: Elsbeth Ahsoka is fine?

1743
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,279
Speaker 3: What a well, yeah, I mean so you're looking at it.

1744
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:09,720
Lightsaber battles means that both parties have lightsabers.

1745
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been five years since in the story

1746
01:20:12,319 --> 01:20:14,000
they said it's been five years, so you can easily

1747
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,359
find some sith us or dark side used or whatever.

1748
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:17,239
And that's probably what.

1749
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:22,359
Speaker 3: Mat I'll defer to uh Ah Soca Balen Skull and Haiti.

1750
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: Or versus too sith in there.

1751
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: No, they're not sith so he he he says he's

1752
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,520
not sith.

1753
01:20:29,279 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: Why has he got a red lightsaber?

1754
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 3: It's orange, it's not red.

1755
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,279
Speaker 1: It's it's not orange, it's orange red. It's a fucking

1756
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:39,680
red lightsaber. So they're all sith, even all the stupid

1757
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,960
The rule two never died. That was a mistake that

1758
01:20:42,039 --> 01:20:45,760
Flowy made and a company. But I hope that Starfighter

1759
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,760
is like that. I think if you're asking me, though,

1760
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,520
from what I want, I'm fine with either or I like,

1761
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,199
and that's what we'll tell about the second this article,

1762
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:56,399
Especialating just brought up that I like the idea of

1763
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,760
continuing Ray stories, post story, Finn story, and obviously especially

1764
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:02,920
Ren story. Right, I think there's still enough people that

1765
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:05,840
enjoyed those stories in the trilogy, especially younger people that

1766
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,920
will come out and see that. I also don't mind

1767
01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:12,279
like Skeleton Crew, which I absolutely loved. I don't mind

1768
01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:14,520
Starfire as well too. Is if they're just stories in

1769
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,000
the Stars universe and they're doing their own thing. I

1770
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:20,000
think the problem is, John, we don't. We can't. I

1771
01:21:20,039 --> 01:21:23,479
can just speculate. We can't answer until Starfighter comes out

1772
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,479
because we have to see what that does financially. Because

1773
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,119
if you're asked me, even though people felt very mixed

1774
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:34,439
on the sequel trilogy, if you're asked me, what do

1775
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,720
you think does better the Hunt for Ben solo or

1776
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,520
even the Rain movie versus the Goston Starfire movie, I'm

1777
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,800
gonna pick Ray or Kylo Ren's movie every time, just

1778
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,359
because they're established and has some connection to characters Luke

1779
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,560
Lanhan right, where this is completely new starfire, right unless

1780
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,520
they start showing stuff in the trailer. But so you're

1781
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,720
from a business standpoint, I think it's always still good

1782
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,199
to lean on the solo Skywalker stuff. I don't believe

1783
01:21:57,279 --> 01:21:59,279
that the gas like lots of other people like I

1784
01:21:59,279 --> 01:22:01,359
don't want any more eye Walkers anymore. I don't think

1785
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:06,640
that is it. But what about you, Taylor? You're muted

1786
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,039
if you're.

1787
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: My freaking microphone. Sorry, I'm trying to time with the baby.

1788
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,760
The baby screams, so.

1789
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: Inst direction do you go? Do you go? You go?

1790
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:17,000
With some you touched on a little bit. But like

1791
01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:20,439
in the future, should they They've announced a ray movie,

1792
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,720
but we don't know when that's happening. What should they

1793
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,600
do a little bit of bow stick with the characters

1794
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,399
they know, new stuff, et cetera.

1795
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 3: I do think that they need to lightly stick with

1796
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,279
the characters that we know. And I say that not

1797
01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:36,399
the characters of the original I think the new characters

1798
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:39,479
that have created, because that's just you owe it to them, right,

1799
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,600
If you're going to do a new trilogy, well, It's

1800
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,920
like the sequel trilogy brought back all the original characters,

1801
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,640
and so in the original trilogy, I mean brought in

1802
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,319
you know, prequel trilogy characters, right, and that weird kind

1803
01:22:50,359 --> 01:22:53,039
of timeline is set up. But I think if they

1804
01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:56,159
do the sequel sequel trilogy, you bring in Ray and

1805
01:22:56,199 --> 01:23:00,159
all those other folks, and then uh yeah, I think

1806
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:04,399
you gotta just you gotta commit and like I said,

1807
01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:06,319
you do that point A to point C. You just

1808
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:09,880
give us that good story and stop freaking out with

1809
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,079
all of these different spinoff projects because it sounds like, Okay,

1810
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:13,399
this is a great idea, there is a greatdea, let's

1811
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,640
do a movie of this, in a movie of that,

1812
01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:16,279
like oh no, you know we're gonna put this in

1813
01:23:16,319 --> 01:23:18,680
the back burner because we can actually splice that story

1814
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,600
into an episode ten or combine this with this, you know.

1815
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,279
I feel like the Ray movie was a thing that

1816
01:23:24,279 --> 01:23:26,079
they announced a long time ago and then they back

1817
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:27,680
burner and then it's like, oh, now we're gonna be

1818
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,720
doing it again. And even when there's like interviews with

1819
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,800
Daisy really talked about how Yah they're actively pushing forward

1820
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,239
with working with her character, were working on something and

1821
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:37,880
it's like, Okay, well that's all good and dandy, but

1822
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,199
it just I think the future is best set with

1823
01:23:41,279 --> 01:23:44,159
them moving with this, and they need to they need

1824
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:46,399
to really get away from the lack of Jedi thing.

1825
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,760
I think my personal opinion is that they need to

1826
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,119
go with a prequel kind of vibe where okay, not

1827
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,000
like old Republic stuff, but like, hey, Ray set up

1828
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,880
a new Jedi temple. You know, Luke it bombed, but like, hey,

1829
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,760
we're going to have like a dozen Jedi in here.

1830
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,319
We've got it all set up. We're not going to

1831
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:05,600
be dealing with planet exploding stuff. We're going to deal

1832
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,079
with a bunch of Jedi and like get into like

1833
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:10,159
Star Wars, get into like, okay, we're dealing with a

1834
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,800
conflict here and nothing that's repetitive, where Okay, the Jedi

1835
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,359
are going to compromise their morals and become soldiers for

1836
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,560
the Republic. But give us that story. Okay, the Jedi

1837
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,760
are rising in and trying to become you know, like

1838
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,279
that balanced powerhouse again. And then you've got this rising

1839
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:28,039
galactic conflict where right now there's a void, like there's

1840
01:24:28,039 --> 01:24:34,960
no in the universe, there's no political power, right Yeah, well, yeah,

1841
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,439
Laya is dead. The resistance is very basic, and resistance

1842
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,199
is just freedom fighters. They don't have a lot of

1843
01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:43,319
political power amongst them. There's no sense. I don't know

1844
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:45,560
if there's any senators really around because most of them

1845
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,960
are all killed when the Starcular base like blew up

1846
01:24:49,039 --> 01:24:51,479
the New Republic and so then the First Order has

1847
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,279
gone too. So who's going to swoop in and fill

1848
01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:57,800
this political void? Like the galaxy is open for the taking, right,

1849
01:24:58,039 --> 01:24:58,560
so it's.

1850
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: Probably why where they are still and jump five years though,

1851
01:25:01,039 --> 01:25:03,319
so be like, oh, these people are the people now

1852
01:25:03,399 --> 01:25:06,119
running it, you know, which I hope it's just regular

1853
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:08,279
good people. We don't need another empire.

1854
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 3: It takes over.

1855
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Sure, I would be like, I know that's a point

1856
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,039
of fan of menace, but wouldn't that be interesting if

1857
01:25:14,079 --> 01:25:17,079
the world decided that we're gonna let like the stars got.

1858
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: The Jedi take all.

1859
01:25:18,039 --> 01:25:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that to me, it'd be something new. I'm

1860
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:21,920
not saying it would be right or wrong, but I

1861
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,039
think that would be super interesting if they all decide like, no,

1862
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:25,800
we we want to go this route, right, And that's

1863
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,000
where you get a bunch of Jedi and fuck in

1864
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,520
the prequels, like the Jedi are almost running shop in

1865
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,000
the Clone Wars era right, like they're yeah, they're doing

1866
01:25:34,079 --> 01:25:34,760
they were gonna.

1867
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,279
Speaker 3: Kill Palpatine right and take over the Senate they should have.

1868
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: I love that Anakin's like, don't hurt this unarmed man.

1869
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,039
It's like he just killed like dozens of Jedi man,

1870
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:46,840
like and you count you cut Duke's head off like

1871
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,960
an hour ago. But now, Mike, I know you're right.

1872
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,840
You say it doesn't need to be jedisif for a

1873
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,199
lights aer battle, I just like, to me, it's just

1874
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:55,199
like the movies where it's like what lightsabers color, We're

1875
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:57,439
gonna go with blue. I just feel like to be like, well,

1876
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,760
it's gonna be a red and everyone if you don't

1877
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,000
know how I feel, if it's red, it's a syth

1878
01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:04,720
because to me, the Rule Too thing was a croc

1879
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,119
of shit when they introduced all the like all the

1880
01:26:07,159 --> 01:26:09,439
sisters and the brothers. There should be no other red

1881
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,880
lightsaber peel, no other people using the forest should just

1882
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,880
be syth or Palpatine invader. It's a bunch of bullshit,

1883
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,520
like there can only be two, but then we have

1884
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,840
these ten other cousins here and that's what I would like.

1885
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,119
Is I joke around, but I would love it if

1886
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:24,119
they would. It doesn't make sense because there's always been

1887
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:25,479
more than two. But let's say they go with what

1888
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,119
they try to feed us, right, if we get a

1889
01:26:27,159 --> 01:26:29,359
new Sith. I would love it if they almost reverse

1890
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,199
engineered and went, you know what, the rule two didn't

1891
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:34,880
work because look like Palpatine failed, Vader failed, we're gonna

1892
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,239
go back to old Sith where we're just gonna have

1893
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,439
as many people as possibel because then you can get

1894
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,279
fucking ten twenty Jedies, ten Jedi ten fucking syth out there.

1895
01:26:44,319 --> 01:26:46,600
Like I would love that if it was like before

1896
01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:52,520
because who who did Reveens? Did he technically start the

1897
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,359
rule too? Or was it Bane? You know it's Bain,

1898
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,880
but that was right, but it was right before Reven

1899
01:26:57,039 --> 01:26:59,680
or when way Baine is before Reven, right, because the

1900
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,479
Bain to Reven and Revin the Mallex, Yeah yeah, and

1901
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,039
he does the sith bomb. But like even then, in

1902
01:27:05,039 --> 01:27:07,720
the Aeronight's or Republic, there's tons of syth around, right,

1903
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,119
So I would love it if they if they did

1904
01:27:10,119 --> 01:27:11,880
that word, it's like, yeah, the Sith also the same

1905
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,039
way we kind of hope that Ray is a Jedi

1906
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:14,720
would change some.

1907
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 3: Things with the orders being is after Revin. Sorry, okay, yeah.

1908
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:20,079
Speaker 1: He started the rule too. Yeah, because that's how I

1909
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:23,279
remember and like there's that whatever, Like I know, Reven

1910
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:24,840
and Malk are kind of like a rule too in

1911
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,800
a sense. But in Night's Over Republic, there's that moment

1912
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,119
where you fight Malik and he's like, oh, here, deal

1913
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:32,479
with all these people and just like dozens of Sith

1914
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,000
come out that you have to fight, right, And that's

1915
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:35,399
where I would love it if they went, if there

1916
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,239
was some Sith and dark sid use it. When you

1917
01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:39,880
know what, all this time this has not been working out.

1918
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,039
We're going back to the old ways. We're gonna not

1919
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:44,680
just do two people. We're gonna have several. There's not

1920
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,199
gonna be this master and apprentice. We got to take

1921
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:49,079
over the same way the Jenera changing. Who the fuck

1922
01:27:49,079 --> 01:27:49,840
are all these people?

1923
01:27:50,119 --> 01:27:52,399
Speaker 3: So you know, I swear I've told you this before.

1924
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,680
You got Darth Kraz and you got a Sith Twilight. Yeah,

1925
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,960
so these are all like Sith characters that came out.

1926
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:02,159
This is during the time of the Skywalker's grandson, Kate Skywalker, Right,

1927
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:03,520
So this was like a Sith.

1928
01:28:06,279 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Twilight.

1929
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,159
Speaker 3: Man, this is this is a Sith group that came

1930
01:28:09,399 --> 01:28:13,640
came into power. Right, that's great, Yeah, this would be

1931
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,720
pretty sweet. And they dropped the rule of two right,

1932
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,560
so it was just their their whole group. But this

1933
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,960
is the thing. So the Twilight now it's rumored and

1934
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,479
we discussed that that she's supposed to have some appearance

1935
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,239
of some kind in that animated mall series.

1936
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Right, Oh really I missed that. Then maybe I forgot

1937
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,119
about that conversation.

1938
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,399
Speaker 3: So I can fine, I'll find dig it up.

1939
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to the Ray

1940
01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:36,079
thing because we'll quickly go through some of this. So

1941
01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:38,880
they gave some updates. Hero taps looking so Kathleen Kenny

1942
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,520
gave updates, and Star Wars project just said yeah, Ben

1943
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,920
Soul Scripts on the back burner said, Taika, what tt

1944
01:28:44,079 --> 01:28:45,960
call turned in the script? She calls hilarious and great,

1945
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,800
but it's not up to her if that movie goes through.

1946
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:51,239
That movie is not happening. James Mangled film is on hold,

1947
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:54,199
but it's incredible script, so that's probably not happening. Donald

1948
01:28:54,199 --> 01:28:57,039
Glover's turned in a script for the Mando movie, which

1949
01:28:57,119 --> 01:28:59,479
I kind of fucking forgot about up until this point.

1950
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,520
I Oh, we're still trying to do that. Hey, I'm

1951
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,399
still down for it. But this is where I'll throw

1952
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,159
to you that Simon we've heard about this, but Simon

1953
01:29:06,199 --> 01:29:08,720
Kingbird is actively working on a trilogy of films that

1954
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,680
David and lynn Wynn are very on board for. The

1955
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,560
rumor is that he's made a seventy page treatment right

1956
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,319
now and they're supposed to be if that's all good

1957
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:18,640
to go, start in March. They're supposed to write the

1958
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,239
phone scripts. Now again, with all these reports and different interviews,

1959
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,319
here's the thing, Taylor, this trilogy that kim Berg's making,

1960
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,319
lucasfilm looks at it like episode ten, eleven, O twelve.

1961
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,359
They just don't know if they actually want to call

1962
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,239
episode ten because of the baggage of everything. But they

1963
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:39,279
viewed as this is a sequel trilogy. So now that

1964
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,520
kind of plays in two because one thing that is

1965
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,600
very interesting in all these exit interviews, she did no

1966
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,760
one asked or she did not answer or chose not

1967
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,680
to answer. No, there's no quotes about the Ray movie whatsoever. Zero.

1968
01:29:51,159 --> 01:29:53,840
So people, and that's where this article in Hollywood Reporter

1969
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,119
put out there where a Star Wars sequel trilogy feels

1970
01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:59,119
in nevis since Hollywood Reporter given the vocal desire for

1971
01:29:59,119 --> 01:30:02,600
Solidburg's Kyle Rena movie and uh, let's say blah blah blah.

1972
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,800
And then of that note, Kinberg's still new trilogy of

1973
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,800
Stars movie, which is rumored to include Ray will be

1974
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,600
in essence the new movies that are ten, eleven, twelve.

1975
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,079
So now people are kind of specling, which I do

1976
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:17,720
agree with. That sucks for that crew. But Taylor, if

1977
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,000
let's say they decided in between they meet with Bridley,

1978
01:30:21,039 --> 01:30:23,479
we're gonna do a Ray movie. Great, let's get to it,

1979
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,439
and they're working on the Ray movie in a year

1980
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,239
from then or whenever they go, you know what, we

1981
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:30,399
actually are gonna do episodes ten, eleven and twelve. To me,

1982
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,640
I would understand not doing a Ray movie then, because

1983
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,680
I think that's kind of productive to do a Ray

1984
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,319
solo movie but also have hers in the sequel trilogy.

1985
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,079
I get it, or the sequel sequel trilogy. I get it,

1986
01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:41,760
because you could say, well, in the Ray movie, she's

1987
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,520
the main character in episode ten, she's gonna be in

1988
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,279
an ensemble of characters. Right, Maybe we're meeting even newer,

1989
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,920
younger people and she's their master. But to me, I

1990
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,560
just feel like it it's almost double dipping. I don't

1991
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,479
think that I love the Ray character, and I do

1992
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,680
think she's popular. I don't think she's popular enough to

1993
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,000
do a solo film and then her also as an ensemble.

1994
01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:02,119
I don't think she's Ironman, where you can do Avengers

1995
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,880
and then Iron Man. So are you okay with that?

1996
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,600
That in lots of speculation, lots of it's picking up

1997
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,840
on things, but these reports have been at least going

1998
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,880
around that this next movie that Kim Bigger's doing, if

1999
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,520
it happens, they're looking at as episode ten. And to

2000
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,760
me it makes sense that Kathleen said, oh yeah, Dave

2001
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,000
and Linwin are really on board because it's like, well,

2002
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:20,960
that's the one that's probably gonna go through, is episode ten.

2003
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:23,520
Are you fine with the Ray movie going away if

2004
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,079
we're getting episode ten, eleven, twelve, And how do you

2005
01:31:26,079 --> 01:31:28,199
even feel about an episode ten now? Because it feels

2006
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:30,840
like we because remember when that was announced that trilogy

2007
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,159
where it was the first star Scooper put out as

2008
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:36,800
they're doing episode ten, and then Lucasfilm clarified like well

2009
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,880
it's just it's just a trilogy. It's not like Episode ten.

2010
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,720
But like they didn't want to like claim it yet.

2011
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,479
But it seems like more Scoopers are like it's episode ten.

2012
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,199
They just don't want to say yet in case it

2013
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:48,600
doesn't happen, Right, So how would you feel about ten?

2014
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:49,920
And then how would you feel about it the Ray

2015
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,039
movie dies because of you know, oh well, we're gonna

2016
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,199
do it an actual Star Wars sequel.

2017
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 3: Now, I would love to get a standalone Jedi movie.

2018
01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:03,960
I you know, I would kind of lean towards the

2019
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:04,960
different It's.

2020
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Almost like they could have done that with Obi Wan Kenobi.

2021
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,199
Speaker 3: You know that's right, you know they could have absolutely,

2022
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:13,680
But okay, if it's one of the other I would

2023
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,520
love that both. I really really would, because I think

2024
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,000
Ray is a character needs that expansion and we need

2025
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,000
a little bit more time with her on her journey

2026
01:32:20,039 --> 01:32:22,600
and a soul journey, introducing new faces, new characters, a

2027
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,399
new mission, whatever she's up to. It doesn't have to

2028
01:32:24,399 --> 01:32:26,039
be a long thing. Could just be like, hey, she's

2029
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:29,039
on this jump in and she's halfway through her mission,

2030
01:32:29,039 --> 01:32:31,720
trying to fulfill this thing like Indiana Jones style, where

2031
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,479
he's just kind of roped into something, you know, and

2032
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,039
that would be great. It gives us a chance to

2033
01:32:35,079 --> 01:32:39,199
connect with the characters some more. And then there's I

2034
01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:41,680
guess that could be applied to another trilogy where you

2035
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,520
have a trilogy with new characters and you have Ray

2036
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,279
just brought in and like this position of obi Wan

2037
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:48,600
Yoda or just to come in second movie in the

2038
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,319
trilogy or first movie whatever, and then they don't have

2039
01:32:51,359 --> 01:32:54,560
a very dominating presence, but they're there long enough to

2040
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,359
kind of push them forward. But then you don't get

2041
01:32:57,399 --> 01:32:58,239
development with them.

2042
01:32:58,279 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: So that's the con My pitch is, as much as

2043
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,920
I have issues with the prequel trilogy, I know people

2044
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,399
use the ben Kenobi Yoda I would rather her be

2045
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,399
obi Wan Kenobi archetype in episode in the prequels, not

2046
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,760
that journey of you know, the like apprentice to master,

2047
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,840
just in the way that like in the first movie,

2048
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,039
it was very much a three way of Anakin, obi

2049
01:33:20,039 --> 01:33:22,600
Wan and choir. Even obi Wan for half the movie

2050
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,760
he's just on that ship on Tataween right like he

2051
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,399
but then at the end he has a big fight

2052
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,600
with Mal and then even with two and three, he

2053
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,199
is a main character but he's the main character along

2054
01:33:31,239 --> 01:33:34,720
with Padme and with Anakin. Right, that'd be my pitch

2055
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,039
for Reyes, not that she's Luke, but not that she's

2056
01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:40,960
Yoda and ben Kenobi either where she is a because

2057
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,640
I don't want to be like, oh she dies in

2058
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,520
episode ten. They care on like I'd like her to

2059
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,560
make it for most of them, even if you want

2060
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,039
to kill her of a fine get to episode like twelve. Sure,

2061
01:33:49,079 --> 01:33:52,319
but I would picture as the Obi wan Kenobi archetype

2062
01:33:52,319 --> 01:33:55,039
for the Phantom or the prequels. That's what I would

2063
01:33:55,079 --> 01:33:56,520
say they should do with her in that type of

2064
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:57,159
screen time.

2065
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's where I can combine that.

2066
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, was there anything Let's see, Oh, and then I

2067
01:34:02,279 --> 01:34:05,640
wanted to ask you to they just a couple of things.

2068
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,800
I's tell me while you're gone about you know. They

2069
01:34:08,039 --> 01:34:10,600
supposed to put out that this was from an eight

2070
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,000
year scooper that yeah, Filony is not a fan of

2071
01:34:14,039 --> 01:34:16,640
and Or. Star Wars did come in and say that,

2072
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,960
oh no, he's a fan of and Or, don't worry.

2073
01:34:19,239 --> 01:34:21,000
And then I guess it also came up today from

2074
01:34:21,039 --> 01:34:23,800
that same place that and Or was one of the

2075
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,359
rare projects that he had zero input on and then

2076
01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:29,079
also came up that apparently he's not a fan of

2077
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:32,840
Visions either, So you know, I.

2078
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 3: People are gonna hate me, but like I haven't seen

2079
01:34:37,079 --> 01:34:40,000
Visions is volume three. It's not knowing either, rushing to

2080
01:34:40,079 --> 01:34:41,680
go and see, right, and I.

2081
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,159
Speaker 1: There's probably great stuff in there.

2082
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 3: Well there is, there is for sure, and there's a

2083
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,359
few other things that I really enjoyed. But I know,

2084
01:34:46,359 --> 01:34:47,920
at the end of the day, like it's definitely not

2085
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,800
my kind of cup of tea, but I'm happy that

2086
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,760
it exists and it exists for you know, fandom to

2087
01:34:53,039 --> 01:34:55,199
enjoy and to take in. I know Kirkland just eats

2088
01:34:55,199 --> 01:34:57,520
it up and happy for him. It's not something that

2089
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,439
I'm necessarily eating up though I got you know, Clone

2090
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,560
Wars and other stuff that I'm a glutton for punishment with.

2091
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:06,880
On the note of filony not liking and or yeah,

2092
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,159
we talked about it a while ago, so it is

2093
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:11,439
what it is, and.

2094
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: Definitely to me, I said, while you're gone, I feel

2095
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,000
like it's definitely the case because like I feel like

2096
01:35:16,039 --> 01:35:19,159
this comes up too much now from different reporters that

2097
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:21,760
like I think just people he works at Lucasfilm and

2098
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,720
that what I kind of get visions. I don't really

2099
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,399
understand because like it's not even cannon, so it's like

2100
01:35:25,399 --> 01:35:27,119
who cares, Like if it's a wet iff thing, It's

2101
01:35:27,119 --> 01:35:28,880
like if you don't like it, this is like leave

2102
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,720
it off to doing its thing, you know, like let

2103
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,119
it be on Disney. Plus some of the best Star

2104
01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:34,960
Wars ever to me is in those first two seasons.

2105
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,079
I'm the same thing. I've not seen season three because

2106
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:39,399
I've been busy, but season one, season two, there's mopile

2107
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,960
episodes where I'm like, man, this is phenomenal stuff. I

2108
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,159
would love this and live action.

2109
01:35:43,039 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 3: Even though it wasn't connected, you know, well, circling back

2110
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,520
to a malling Yeah.

2111
01:35:50,359 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: That I also wanted to throw into that. What did

2112
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,159
you think about the Ryan Johnson kathlete Kenny back and forth?

2113
01:35:56,199 --> 01:35:57,319
Did you know about that? Right?

2114
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 3: I saw one. I saw one comment with it, but

2115
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,239
I did not go and dig it.

2116
01:36:02,319 --> 01:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2117
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,119
Speaker 1: She said in this exit interview that he was spooked

2118
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:07,640
by the fan reaction. That's why he's not doing his movies,

2119
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,079
and he just put never spooked. Lol. Sorry, so he

2120
01:36:11,159 --> 01:36:11,760
shot right back.

2121
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:16,119
Speaker 3: I believe. I believe Kennedy.

2122
01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:17,079
Speaker 1: Sorry you do?

2123
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 3: You dropped the l in there.

2124
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know I believe him because I think

2125
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,319
he's just like, this is ridiculous to me. When I

2126
01:36:23,359 --> 01:36:26,479
dropped LOL, that means I'm like, like, I don't drop

2127
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,800
L anymore. It's a hoff I drop L. That's something ridiculous.

2128
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,399
Like I'm shaking my head, like, oh, you.

2129
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 3: Know, I see it is the other way I see it.

2130
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,560
Like you know, if you walk up to someone and

2131
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,359
you just slap them real quick and they're just like

2132
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,800
stunned and like oh oh, and you know they're like

2133
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,199
kind of like spooked, and it's like, well, you know,

2134
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:46,199
I'm okay, l L. You know, she's just kind of shocked.

2135
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's it at all.

2136
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 3: But with the with the mall shadow Lord, Yeah, so

2137
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,239
it looks like his mall takes on an apprentice in there,

2138
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:57,279
and it's a Twilight, and I think the thing that

2139
01:36:57,399 --> 01:36:59,680
that is that it's supposed to be.

2140
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh you know what Emily and I are doing for

2141
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:15,840
next Alloween? My goodness.

2142
01:37:16,279 --> 01:37:18,399
Speaker 3: But I think you know the timing of this works.

2143
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,039
I mean, I don't know what the average life spent

2144
01:37:20,079 --> 01:37:22,920
as of a twilight, but if you get the era

2145
01:37:23,039 --> 01:37:25,760
of Rey and them, and then you have this chick

2146
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,319
who's been hiding in the background who trained under mall Uh.

2147
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:30,960
Then she can could also not do any of that

2148
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:33,800
side us, you could just use that character and leave

2149
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,319
them all stuff. Why, oh you could, but why plant

2150
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:39,560
the seeds? And we all know, like Floony is big

2151
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,520
on creating the origins. When you look at the bad Batch,

2152
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,960
that's that's creating origins for Rise of Skywalker with Mandalorian.

2153
01:37:45,039 --> 01:37:47,920
That's also trying to create origins for Rise of Skywalker

2154
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,800
with the whole cloning Palpatine thing. And he's always focusing

2155
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,000
on these origins of these characters. And I think also

2156
01:37:54,039 --> 01:37:54,520
it does.

2157
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,279
Speaker 1: It does also plant origins for like Clone wars Ara

2158
01:37:57,319 --> 01:37:59,680
stuff though too though unfortunate. Right, So that's one thing

2159
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:00,600
you might it does, But.

2160
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know exactly when is the

2161
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:04,560
show taking place.

2162
01:38:05,359 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you that. Yeah, it's just like

2163
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:08,960
that's the problems with the two eras, right, and that's

2164
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,520
where we're gonna find out like if like and that's

2165
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,960
where for me, that's where I do want episode ten

2166
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,399
because I was wanna go forward. If Dave Filoni is

2167
01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:20,199
producing episode ten, there's a real test like that that's

2168
01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:22,520
a chance too. You could try to get people all

2169
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,239
these characters again and you could go, hey, seven to

2170
01:38:25,359 --> 01:38:27,600
nine didn't work because for a few reasons, but didn't

2171
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,079
work because we didn't have a full plan. If he

2172
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:33,840
and Lynny could rock the new trilogy ten to twelve

2173
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,319
and it turns out relatively good to really good, then

2174
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,359
following will earn a lot of credit like that. That's

2175
01:38:39,399 --> 01:38:42,000
where to me, like the spin offs, the Side Project's prequel. Sure,

2176
01:38:42,039 --> 01:38:45,039
but if Flony is helping with episode ten, there's no

2177
01:38:45,239 --> 01:38:47,039
like his feet is in the fire then, you know,

2178
01:38:47,039 --> 01:38:49,239
because if it sucks, then everybody will be after him,

2179
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:51,159
just like they were with Kennedy, right, Like even his

2180
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:53,399
most supporters will be after him. You know, not as

2181
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,960
much as I guess because you're not handling the Luke

2182
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,000
and Hanolly, but still people will look at him and

2183
01:38:58,039 --> 01:38:59,479
be like, oh, you drop the ball here, you know.

2184
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 3: So so this is from Sam Wit where this is

2185
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,960
a year after the Clone Wars.

2186
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,520
Speaker 1: So oh fucking christ Man.

2187
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: This is this is basically filling in the gap where

2188
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:15,159
he gets he's in. He's what happened in season seven,

2189
01:39:15,279 --> 01:39:16,920
like he was broken free by Soca and then he

2190
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,359
went off on his own right.

2191
01:39:18,279 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost going to fight him, and there he tried

2192
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,000
to recruit a Soca.

2193
01:39:22,319 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 3: So you're gonna get you're gonna get between then and

2194
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,680
up to Rebels, his appearance in the Rebels, and so

2195
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,399
you're gonna see a lot because he does rebuild his

2196
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,960
crime syndicate right when you look at Solo a Star

2197
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,880
Wars story, So you're gonna get a little bit more

2198
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,359
of that. But again, I think if he recruits this

2199
01:39:37,399 --> 01:39:40,520
little Twilight girl and then just she goes off on

2200
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,119
her own venture, that that's all I want. I just

2201
01:39:43,159 --> 01:39:45,359
think that's a little easter egg. And then if they

2202
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:47,199
were to throw her in live action and people just

2203
01:39:47,279 --> 01:39:52,359
see this like red Saber, redskin, Twilight Sith user just

2204
01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:55,119
popping in fighting Ray, I think that would be super cool.

2205
01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:56,359
I would really really like that.

2206
01:39:57,279 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: So before we move on, because we're almost time here,

2207
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,920
fucking stars, I should have known. But with so Ray,

2208
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,439
I think we both think that what obviously we had

2209
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,359
all the hubbaboo with the Ben Soul moving that didn't happen,

2210
01:40:10,399 --> 01:40:13,479
and then this, you know, resurgence, What would you put

2211
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,359
Kylerin's percentage of being in the sequel trilogy and being

2212
01:40:16,399 --> 01:40:19,279
back I'm not saying forest ghost, I'm not saying dream flashback.

2213
01:40:19,319 --> 01:40:20,600
I'm saying back as a character.

2214
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go eighty five percent.

2215
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Eighty five for me, it's just interesting, right because it's

2216
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,319
just like if they turned it down, like again, I

2217
01:40:33,319 --> 01:40:34,840
think you know what I'm gonna say, because I was

2218
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,359
gonna say, if they turn it down because they think

2219
01:40:36,359 --> 01:40:38,800
he's dead, they don't know he's gonna come back to me, Actually,

2220
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,520
that's just bullshit, they actually because to me, there's no

2221
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,960
way they can believe that, right, Like, well, Kyle Ren

2222
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:46,760
died like so, I think if they can see the reaction,

2223
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,920
it's just a question of now can they put that

2224
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,039
in the newest scripts. I think no matter what, Adam

2225
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:54,319
Driver will appear in the new trilogy, I just really

2226
01:40:54,359 --> 01:40:58,239
worry I'll just be in dream sequence or like as

2227
01:40:58,279 --> 01:41:00,399
a forest ghost, right like something like that. I think

2228
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,520
he's a lock to be in there. It's just what

2229
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,680
is the amount. I think it would be great to

2230
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,319
bring them both back. I hope that happens, but I

2231
01:41:06,319 --> 01:41:08,199
don't think that would be an episode ten thing. I

2232
01:41:08,199 --> 01:41:10,039
think it would be. I personally think would be like

2233
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:12,039
an episode eleven, like they build up to that and stuff,

2234
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:14,239
or maybe they do episode ten and just see and whatnot.

2235
01:41:14,399 --> 01:41:18,560
So yeah, we will see. Yeah, so we'll quickly go

2236
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,119
past these two because they because yeah, lots of the

2237
01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:23,880
talk about there were Star Wars, but twenty years later

2238
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,119
came out this weekend. Twenty years later, I guess Bone

2239
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,119
Temple came out this weekend. I'll have to get the

2240
01:41:29,279 --> 01:41:33,920
exact but I'm pretty sure the predecessor came on at

2241
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,359
like thirty million opening weekend, and this game it like fifteen.

2242
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,920
So for domestics. So obviously we're and we're gonna tell

2243
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,479
the spoilers check out the review. Obviously, we're in a

2244
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,000
situation where they have announced the third one a couple

2245
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:49,840
months ago, but that doesn't mean anything, right at one

2246
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,840
point when I was making a fucking back round movie

2247
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,359
and we're never seeing that, right. So that's the thing

2248
01:41:55,359 --> 01:41:58,600
where it's just like, I don't know, do you, because yeah,

2249
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,079
opening weekend for that first one was thirty million, and

2250
01:42:01,119 --> 01:42:04,159
this was thirteen million, And that was the problem where

2251
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,239
it was projected to hit like twenty twenty five, and

2252
01:42:07,279 --> 01:42:09,119
then they're like, oh, it's down to fifteen, and then

2253
01:42:09,159 --> 01:42:12,000
it's down to thirteen one and It's so funny because

2254
01:42:12,039 --> 01:42:14,640
in the draft, I think when we were on our

2255
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,399
last pick still, it's like, oh, no, one's really picking

2256
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,920
bone Tim. We're like no, no, like that's that's not

2257
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,479
the thing. Like I was not surprised. Don't get me wrong,

2258
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,359
I was not surprised. It was I'm not really surprised

2259
01:42:24,359 --> 01:42:26,960
about any of this. I'm more under I'm more disappointed

2260
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,800
because I was hoping it would be Okay, let's say

2261
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,399
the first one was thirty million. I was hopd okay,

2262
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,359
maybe this could be twenty twenty. It's like ten million

2263
01:42:32,359 --> 01:42:35,239
dollars off. But that first one came out in springtime

2264
01:42:35,399 --> 01:42:37,600
had been a long time. This hasn't even been a

2265
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,880
year since that first one. And I had said this

2266
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,359
to Dylan after this multiple times, where I have yet

2267
01:42:42,399 --> 01:42:44,520
to meet a single person in my real life that

2268
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,560
has seen the new one, right, Like, it's not like

2269
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,920
something where oh, I know someone's seen Wicked. I know

2270
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,479
someone's seen that. With this, like twenty years later, I

2271
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,840
don't know what the audience is for this other than

2272
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,520
you know what, we really love it. So one, Uh,

2273
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,800
why did you think it had you know, pretty much

2274
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,399
a over fifty percent drop for opening weekend we have

2275
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,319
to see because luckily it's reviewed better than both or

2276
01:43:05,359 --> 01:43:09,159
the first one, and from a fan cinema score, it's

2277
01:43:09,159 --> 01:43:11,560
done better. So it seems like people have enjoyed this

2278
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,199
one more on the critical side, but obviously a big falter.

2279
01:43:15,359 --> 01:43:17,399
So why do you think it fell so much? And

2280
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,720
then do you think they do you think they announced

2281
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,920
that third one, the ideas that killing Murphy's coming back?

2282
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,279
Do you still think that's safe for? Where are you

2283
01:43:24,319 --> 01:43:25,960
on that one? After this one? And again, this is

2284
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,000
the opening weekend. We don't even know the next few weekends.

2285
01:43:28,039 --> 01:43:29,920
Maybe his legs or maybe just keeps doing worse. Right,

2286
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,359
Like that first one made one hundred and fifty million,

2287
01:43:32,399 --> 01:43:33,600
I don't even know if this is going to crack

2288
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,960
one hundred million. You know that's that's where am So

2289
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:37,880
why do you think it had such a kind of

2290
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:39,560
underwhelming follow up.

2291
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 3: January? I think the month of January is probably a

2292
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,239
big kicker. I think that month has a magical effect

2293
01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:48,399
on people that just kind of reduces their engagement in

2294
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:53,760
seeing a movie for that month in theaters. It's interesting

2295
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,720
because we're at a pretty crazy scenario here where you

2296
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,600
have a movie that's really, really good versus horrible box

2297
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,079
office earnings. And it's unfortunate because everyone that enjoyed this movie,

2298
01:44:05,079 --> 01:44:06,920
and I'm one of them, I'm afraid of the fact

2299
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,039
that the company is gonna be like, hey, we're money driven.

2300
01:44:10,079 --> 01:44:11,479
As any businesses, it all.

2301
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:13,199
Speaker 1: Comes down they still have to make a profit, right,

2302
01:44:13,239 --> 01:44:15,600
Like they still have to profit. They have to justify

2303
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,920
as much as we always go like all bad business,

2304
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,399
they still have to justify why they spend so much on.

2305
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 3: Xces, right. And that's the shitty thing about making movies

2306
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,600
these days is because good movies, you're not getting good

2307
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,520
movies anymore because it has to be about money, right,

2308
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,720
And so we're we're at a situation here where we're

2309
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,279
probably not gonna get hopefully I'm knocking what might not

2310
01:44:36,359 --> 01:44:39,000
get that third movie? And it could be a fucking banger.

2311
01:44:39,039 --> 01:44:41,000
It could be a great movie. You could just blow

2312
01:44:41,039 --> 01:44:42,600
it out of the water with its narrative and its

2313
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,039
characters and everything with the story. But oh, it's not

2314
01:44:45,079 --> 01:44:47,000
gonna make enough money. So you know, boo, you know,

2315
01:44:47,039 --> 01:44:48,640
you don't you don't get it. It's like that's that's

2316
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,039
not that's not good storytelling. And I mean, how do

2317
01:44:53,079 --> 01:44:55,239
you change that? I think you just changed the day.

2318
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,720
I think the only thing is the month of its release.

2319
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,439
I think people are pretty burnt out. You know, they

2320
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,760
drop their any on Avatar three hours, Like I don't

2321
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,319
feel like one of the movies right now. There's lots of.

2322
01:45:04,319 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: Christmas in general, right, Like that's what we talk about.

2323
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,920
Why January Dude does bad. It's not just movie, it's

2324
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,000
those people spend a bunch of money in December, whether

2325
01:45:11,039 --> 01:45:15,000
it's family stuff, on the dinner presence, so people don't

2326
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,119
have that much. But I guess that's the the tough

2327
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:19,840
thing is we're telling on the discord is I guess

2328
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,640
they could have waited till October, but like there's nothing.

2329
01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:26,399
There's like February got scream, so that's not happening. In March,

2330
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,079
you have like ready or not tune another thing, like

2331
01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:30,079
that's not happening. So you could have waited till October.

2332
01:45:30,399 --> 01:45:32,680
In retrospect, I think they should have. I don't know

2333
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,359
why they didn't. It's not like the third one is

2334
01:45:35,399 --> 01:45:37,319
already shot and they're trying to release it and because

2335
01:45:37,359 --> 01:45:40,439
I'll one last time to look at October. But I

2336
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,800
don't know why they Like that is a horror mo.

2337
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,920
Then I do also think that I think unless you

2338
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:49,079
are a massive property, if you're releasing within a year

2339
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:53,039
of yourself, that's risky. I still think Wicked two coming out,

2340
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:54,720
I know, I think Mike pushes back and he's on

2341
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,680
the other side. For me, Wicked two coming out a

2342
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,159
year after Wicked one, I think I actually hurt that

2343
01:45:59,159 --> 01:46:01,319
because I think there's enough people that I think there's

2344
01:46:01,399 --> 01:46:03,279
enough people like I just saw there, I've been there,

2345
01:46:03,319 --> 01:46:05,640
and they also realized it goes on vod really quick.

2346
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,000
There wasn't that, like I gotta see the characters like

2347
01:46:08,239 --> 01:46:10,239
we just we just met them. But like, okay, So

2348
01:46:10,399 --> 01:46:13,399
for October this year, it's Digger, It's Other Mummy, which

2349
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,680
is not a scary one. Other Mummy, the Social Reckoning,

2350
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,680
so the sequel Social Network, Street Fighter remain, and then

2351
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,159
Sean She the Beast, Bossy Bottle movie in September. There's

2352
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:26,000
some horror like clay Face and practical Magic. But I

2353
01:46:26,039 --> 01:46:28,319
don't know why they didn't take a shot in October

2354
01:46:28,319 --> 01:46:30,039
and just say, oh, you know what, let's put it there,

2355
01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:33,680
see what happens. Because January, yeah, I think in retroactively

2356
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,119
was not a not a good idea.

2357
01:46:35,319 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 3: You know, no, no, it was not. Then the other

2358
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,079
thing too, I was thinking, like maybe they're hoping that

2359
01:46:41,159 --> 01:46:43,199
people would go to the theater, they would see this

2360
01:46:43,279 --> 01:46:46,479
and think, hey, actually there's certain things that they unveiled

2361
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,439
at the end of this movie that will actually get

2362
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,720
people pretty pumped and bring them around. People will have

2363
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,680
word of mouth and they'll be interested in go see

2364
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,399
it and whatnot. But Proba, with some of that.

2365
01:46:57,399 --> 01:46:59,119
Speaker 1: Word of mouth was already in the public though, right

2366
01:46:59,159 --> 01:47:02,399
they talked about certain things happening, So that's the thing.

2367
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:06,319
There was never a big on doubt for that. So yeah,

2368
01:47:06,359 --> 01:47:08,319
I hope it happens. I think if it happens, though

2369
01:47:09,159 --> 01:47:12,640
I'm not saying forever, but definitely, that will be the

2370
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,920
last twenty eight film for a while. Unlast you never know,

2371
01:47:16,039 --> 01:47:17,079
you get me, you.

2372
01:47:17,079 --> 01:47:19,039
Speaker 3: Don't know if you get another one.

2373
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I could see them always rebooting it in like ten

2374
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,680
twenty years, like even when we're older, you know, someone

2375
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,600
takes an ip like oh try this out or maybe

2376
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,600
becomes a series, right, and which I don't actually think

2377
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,520
like would be awful. I think there's enough in this

2378
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,199
world that you could do a TV show of. But

2379
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,319
obviously got last of right now, so they wouldn't do that.

2380
01:47:34,399 --> 01:47:37,319
So all right, for last minutes, we'll talk about this

2381
01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:40,319
silly rumor here. But you know what, it is coming

2382
01:47:40,359 --> 01:47:42,840
from a B tier source and it is coming from

2383
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,319
the same guy, Daniel Rpka who reported that, hey, they're

2384
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:48,119
doing a new Mummy Moabe Brendan Frasher. He did that

2385
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:51,079
like a month before it actually came out with the

2386
01:47:51,159 --> 01:47:53,600
Hollywood Reporter and Brendan Fraser confirmed that. So this guy

2387
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:58,439
I think has a source within this franchise, I guess.

2388
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:00,760
So again, if people don't remember the ideas they are

2389
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,000
doing Mummy three, the reason it's called Mummy three is

2390
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,600
because they're going to ignore the Mummy, the Dragon two.

2391
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,479
What the hell is that two of the dragon or

2392
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:14,920
two tears too quick at that, So they're going to

2393
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,359
ignore that. They're gonna bring back racial advice as well.

2394
01:48:17,399 --> 01:48:19,119
We don't know about any other characters, but it's gonna

2395
01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:21,720
be kind of a sequel where this is the proper

2396
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,680
third one, right, So that's happening. Fraser talking about that,

2397
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,640
that's confirmed, at least it's confirmed to be in development.

2398
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,359
I think it's gonna happen. They're gonna go through with that.

2399
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,439
But then I guess so the same guy I put

2400
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,439
up that rumor and then became confirmed he had put

2401
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,800
out yesterday that supposedly there is an idea to bring

2402
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,000
back the Rock for the Mummy three, and there it's

2403
01:48:40,039 --> 01:48:44,640
not off the table potentially doing another Scorpion King. Taylor Field,

2404
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,680
how do you feel you're laughing? How do you feel

2405
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:50,479
about both these options of Rock back for three and

2406
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,479
the Scorpion King returning to the theaters.

2407
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,520
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I remember when I watched the first Scorpion King,

2408
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,920
and that was like that was the trade on ahead

2409
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,000
of all, like the previews for my VHS tapes.

2410
01:49:03,319 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: It was always it was on a lot of trailers

2411
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,199
because I remember that shot of Rock with the barrow

2412
01:49:08,399 --> 01:49:10,119
and he's sweating and everything.

2413
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they made it out to be a lot

2414
01:49:12,079 --> 01:49:15,319
more like a sexual kind of like experience. I feel

2415
01:49:15,319 --> 01:49:18,279
like with this this Witch Lady and everything like that,

2416
01:49:18,319 --> 01:49:20,760
but really like like when you watch it, like the

2417
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,920
trailer was so serious, when you watch it's actually really

2418
01:49:23,039 --> 01:49:27,319
kind of like comedic and yes, lighthearted and spirited and

2419
01:49:27,359 --> 01:49:29,840
the stuff like that. It has a classic kind of

2420
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,520
two thousands vibe to it, and I really enjoyed it.

2421
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,000
I really really did. I think me and my dad

2422
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,720
back on the video rental store days, we went ahead

2423
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,920
and rented one of the other Scorpion King movies, like

2424
01:49:43,039 --> 01:49:47,359
five of them there is. Yeah, let me see if

2425
01:49:47,399 --> 01:49:49,760
I can name them all off, because they one is

2426
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,119
like Ron Pearlman in there, which is crazy.

2427
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: I will say so. I think for the Mummy three

2428
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:00,039
we I don't know. We said we're definitely gonna I

2429
01:50:00,199 --> 01:50:03,920
trow the Three Mummies and Scorpion King. I don't know

2430
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,800
if we could do the other ones, I'd say I

2431
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,960
would have to take a poll, but I know all

2432
01:50:09,039 --> 01:50:10,880
the patrons I one will vote for us to do it.

2433
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,319
It's just a question of we'll I get the wrong one.

2434
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,399
Would people actually listen to us review those other movies?

2435
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,239
Because I bet they're fucking bad and I bet they'd

2436
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:20,319
be a fun time. But as we talked about twenty

2437
01:50:20,319 --> 01:50:22,279
eight years later, we still also got to make a

2438
01:50:22,319 --> 01:50:24,800
profit when we're doing the show for the extra content, right,

2439
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,680
So it's like, can't we justify that? I don't know,

2440
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,079
I don't know what that would be, but yeah, give

2441
01:50:29,079 --> 01:50:29,760
me all the titles of.

2442
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 3: These Okay, so I uh, okay, okay, I'm gonna share

2443
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,920
my screen so you can you can see this.

2444
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,119
Speaker 1: In the future if we ever do this with Kirk,

2445
01:50:41,279 --> 01:50:42,720
We're dying and you should create a bunch of fake

2446
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,079
titles and see if they could figure out I should should.

2447
01:50:45,279 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 3: It's a small post. I apologize, but that's the first one.

2448
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah.

2449
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 3: Here's the Scorpion King two Rise of a Warrior from

2450
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,119
the producers of The Mummy. I'm not sure who this

2451
01:50:57,199 --> 01:50:58,000
fellow is.

2452
01:50:58,399 --> 01:51:00,239
Speaker 1: It's not showing on my screen. If you're it's not

2453
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:01,680
showing up. Oh share this stab.

2454
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,279
Speaker 3: There we go, There we go. I'm not sure who

2455
01:51:05,279 --> 01:51:05,800
there we will?

2456
01:51:06,319 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: Uh that that's Chuck Ladell. He's a very famous UFC fighter. No, no, no, no,

2457
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,399
oh bring it back. No Randy Gatour. Sorry not Chuck O'Dell.

2458
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,800
Randy Contour many times been talked about as being the

2459
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,520
greatest fighter of all time. So they just put in

2460
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,399
another guy I could fight in there.

2461
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,039
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's Warrior. And then we got Scorpion King's

2462
01:51:24,039 --> 01:51:25,439
three Battle for Redemn Shill.

2463
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: He's sane and ron for that poster does not look real.

2464
01:51:30,119 --> 01:51:33,319
That does look like a poster. I think the guy.

2465
01:51:33,159 --> 01:51:36,319
Speaker 3: On this guy looks like Dave Batista. To be honest,

2466
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,880
is Batista? No it's not.

2467
01:51:39,279 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: I think it is.

2468
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 3: No, Okay, fact check this.

2469
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I think that's Batista. Yeah, I will one you said

2470
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,279
we talked. We did talk about the Mummy Trayler last week,

2471
01:51:50,279 --> 01:51:51,479
so that's on the last episode if you want to

2472
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:56,279
check that out. But yeah, it was he plays, he

2473
01:51:56,319 --> 01:51:57,680
plays what he played?

2474
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 3: His character's name is Argo mal Argo Mail Armail.

2475
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,359
Speaker 1: All right, next post, next post.

2476
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,239
Speaker 3: That's crazy about seven minutes Scorpion King four Quests for Power,

2477
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:07,479
got lou Fragno in here.

2478
01:52:08,359 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, Louis. And I think that guy in the

2479
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,079
right with the long hair, I think he's a UFC

2480
01:52:15,159 --> 01:52:18,680
fighter as well. He's like bear something. So Quest for Power.

2481
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,399
Speaker 3: And then we got the last one, Book of Souls.

2482
01:52:21,399 --> 01:52:23,039
This one's just pretty drank. I think this was kind

2483
01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:25,479
of like a soft reboot, like let's get back into

2484
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:26,680
making these movies.

2485
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: But geez, I wonder who's in that? But yeah, like

2486
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,520
I said, I would loved I bet there'd be some

2487
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,359
very fun reviews. It's just like, can I justify us

2488
01:52:34,399 --> 01:52:36,680
doing that? But well, we'll see if we get closer.

2489
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,119
But what do you think about the actually idea of

2490
01:52:38,359 --> 01:52:40,279
rock being in Momi three and then possibly doing a

2491
01:52:40,319 --> 01:52:41,039
new Scorpion King.

2492
01:52:42,119 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 3: I I dig it. I mean, I'd like to get

2493
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,640
a movie that kind of sets us up more on

2494
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:50,920
how he was that character in the Mummy too, right.

2495
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big jump. He's like a big hero.

2496
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,479
He's a big hero in Scorpion King, and then when

2497
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,199
they told him him the Mummy, he's pretty much just

2498
01:52:57,199 --> 01:53:00,600
like a dictator, like he's he's in sad fascinate, like

2499
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,239
he's just all about power, you know.

2500
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there and there must be like I

2501
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,039
don't know, throw in some kind of like Anubis coming

2502
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:12,159
down on him shit, like uh, something crazy, some kind

2503
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:15,079
of crazy dynamic. I think there's definitely enough story there

2504
01:53:15,079 --> 01:53:17,039
to kind of bridge that gap and dive into it.

2505
01:53:17,079 --> 01:53:18,600
So I'm down for it. I hope that that's what

2506
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,439
they would do. If they don't and they do something else,

2507
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,359
then we'll see how that goes. But they've got the

2508
01:53:23,359 --> 01:53:27,119
they got the pudding right there to eat. Yeah.

2509
01:53:27,159 --> 01:53:30,239
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because like, how do you I

2510
01:53:30,359 --> 01:53:32,279
wonder if they view this because we talked about like

2511
01:53:32,279 --> 01:53:34,680
would they bring back the Mummy again right like from

2512
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,039
one and two? But I wonder if that's their answers like, oh,

2513
01:53:37,079 --> 01:53:38,880
we're not gonna bring him back, but we're gonna bring

2514
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,760
back Dwayne, and like that would make that makes way

2515
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,479
more sense money wise. I don't know how you bring

2516
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,000
that character back. He was a gigantic scorpion. He got

2517
01:53:46,039 --> 01:53:48,800
stabbed and turned into dust. But I guess you know,

2518
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:53,439
no one's ever really gone, So yeah, I don't. I

2519
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,720
have a very saw spot in my place for the

2520
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,720
Scorpion King. I loved those first two Mummies, and I

2521
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,560
was as a kid in the height of the Attitude era,

2522
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,479
loving professional wrestling, and then announced The Rock was gonna

2523
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,439
be the mom movies that I also loved. Travis was

2524
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:08,720
on cloud nine for Scorpion King. I was so I

2525
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,359
watch I watched that movie so many goddamn times, and

2526
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:14,520
I loved it back then, and I'm sure it's not great.

2527
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:20,239
So I don't know why I'm fifty to fifty on

2528
01:54:20,319 --> 01:54:22,760
because I completely fine and I still think. I know people.

2529
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,880
I saw Mike your time, I saw other people being like, oh,

2530
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,079
he's already going back to these movies because like same thing.

2531
01:54:27,279 --> 01:54:29,920
Smub's asked, like, well, Rock, we were turning to Scorpion

2532
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,119
King be the same as Adam Sandler making Hube Halloween

2533
01:54:32,119 --> 01:54:34,640
after not winning the Oscar. Like, I think the Rock

2534
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,840
was always still gonna do this stuff. I still think

2535
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,479
he likes the big movies, in the big paychecks and everything.

2536
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,239
I think he can do both. I still am a

2537
01:54:43,239 --> 01:54:45,640
big fan of The Rock on an acting perspective because,

2538
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,159
like I really enjoy it didn't Smashing Machine. So to me,

2539
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:51,239
there's a lot of nostalgia with the Mummy coming back,

2540
01:54:51,279 --> 01:54:53,159
so the Rock would fin that. And I think we

2541
01:54:53,279 --> 01:54:56,800
all could also agree that the Scorpion King CGI and

2542
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:58,840
Mummy two is not great, so maybe you get a

2543
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,079
redemption there. And you know what, it'd be fun to

2544
01:55:01,079 --> 01:55:03,640
actually see Rock as like a villain. You know, black

2545
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,560
Adam was not that, so see him go up against

2546
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,520
Brenon Fraser. So I'm down, like, let's have some fun.

2547
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,880
I don't know. I think what I would want to see,

2548
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,920
and I think they would want to see two. I

2549
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,960
do not think as a company they should go let's

2550
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,439
do the Mummy three and then do Scorpion King. That

2551
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,960
should be a let's see what happens. I don't think

2552
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,199
they should go into Scorpion King right away. I think

2553
01:55:23,279 --> 01:55:25,920
see how big Mummy three does, and if it's a

2554
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:27,960
hit and if people because don't go in production. What

2555
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,640
if Mummy three sucks and people aren't in on this franchise, right,

2556
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,640
That's what I would do, is do something and maybe

2557
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:35,479
know what they'll do, te I bet they'll do the

2558
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,199
reverse when you said you'd want to see the bridge

2559
01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:40,159
of how you get from how he became like the

2560
01:55:40,199 --> 01:55:42,279
hero to the villain. I bet what they do and

2561
01:55:42,319 --> 01:55:45,039
the Mummy three is they make the Scorpion King turn

2562
01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:47,359
good this time and he comes back to his original

2563
01:55:47,479 --> 01:55:51,239
form matteas or whatever in Scorpion King, and he's seen

2564
01:55:51,279 --> 01:55:53,640
the air of his ways and now you can get

2565
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,199
back to doing because that's the thing of like, okay,

2566
01:55:55,199 --> 01:55:57,239
if you make him the villain and the Mummy three,

2567
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,399
how to do the Scorpion King two with him being

2568
01:55:59,399 --> 01:56:01,560
the good guy again? That's what you do is you

2569
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,720
give him the bay face turn there and then that's

2570
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,359
a good way of like either he's a good guy

2571
01:56:05,399 --> 01:56:07,079
and that's the end of the story, or he's a

2572
01:56:07,079 --> 01:56:09,840
good guy and you're like leaving people wanting more. Right,

2573
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,359
So that's what I recommend, But sure, why not, Like, well,

2574
01:56:13,439 --> 01:56:15,760
I'm just happy Fraser and Rise it back, let's see

2575
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:20,479
if it works all round and go from there. So yeah, yeah,

2576
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,760
so quickly next week. We will be back. Next week,

2577
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,800
we're planning doing the Tuesday and Thursday. Both of those

2578
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,279
are going to be Travis and Taylor told you just

2579
01:56:28,279 --> 01:56:30,760
because on the first week of February, Taar is not here.

2580
01:56:31,039 --> 01:56:33,680
So instead of doing we did once week together, we'll

2581
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,279
be doing two next week. So that'll be the last

2582
01:56:35,359 --> 01:56:37,359
that run, and then Tail will be back to work

2583
01:56:37,399 --> 01:56:39,199
and so he won't be he won't be around one.

2584
01:56:39,239 --> 01:56:40,520
Are you ready to go back to work? You're only

2585
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,600
like two weeks away from going back into the office.

2586
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the five week period I'm currently tomorrow will

2587
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,239
be my halfway point, halfway point. But you know, I'm

2588
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:51,680
looking forward to your little trip at the end of

2589
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,680
the end of this reprie. It'll be nice see some

2590
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,640
more family and whatnot. And yeah, you know, maybe I

2591
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,760
just won't go back to work. Maybe I'll just I'll

2592
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:03,399
just and I'll just be you know, I.

2593
01:57:03,359 --> 01:57:05,279
Speaker 1: Agree to a five week run. That's about it. So

2594
01:57:05,319 --> 01:57:06,840
you have to you have to make your own show.

2595
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,239
But no, ladies, and thank you everybody that was in

2596
01:57:09,319 --> 01:57:11,840
chatting you on the same questions, saying everyone watched live

2597
01:57:12,079 --> 01:57:14,319
or listen after the fact. Like I said, us too

2598
01:57:14,359 --> 01:57:17,119
will be back next week Tuesday and Thursday tatively for

2599
01:57:17,159 --> 01:57:19,359
eleven a m PST, and then I will be back

2600
01:57:19,359 --> 01:57:22,000
on Thursday is the Oscar nomination, so I'll be breaking

2601
01:57:22,039 --> 01:57:24,479
all that down. That'll be a juicy show. And then yeah,

2602
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,920
Townholls tonight apm ps T live if you want to

2603
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,560
join for that, Yeah, thank you very much. When we

2604
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,880
hear of us next, it'll not be boring.

2605
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 3: Bye.