Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Well, well, well, isn't this rich A Maxwell
is lecturing the world about natural justice. You honestly couldn't
script irony this thick if you tried. Here, we've got
Glayne's own brother, blood of the same dynasty that spent
decades cocooned and wealth, privilege and denial, pretending to be
the voice of reason while taking potshots at a woman
who didn't have the luxury of lawyers, lords, or private
jets to hide behind. The sheer nerve of it almost
deserves applause.
Speaker 2: Almost.
Speaker 1: This man, whose sister was convicted of sex trafficking miners,
somehow thinks he's the arbiter of truth. Wagon his finger
at Virginia Robert's memoir as if it's some great threat
to jurisprudence. As you'll see, he drones on about precision
and timelines like a courtroom accountant, never mind the grow
test crimes that his sister was convicted of enabling and
taking part in. He talks about due process while casually ignoring,
however and Glane spend decades weaponizing the same system to
destroy lives. The hypocrisy is so dense it's practically a
black hole. So let's get real. What we're talking about
here is not literary criticism. This is a family pr
cleanup disguised as moral philosophy. It's damage control with the thesaurus,
because deep down, every maxwell knows the family name is radioactive,
and no amount of sanctimony or pseudo legal babble will
scrub it clean. So here he is wagging his pen
at a dead survivor's book like that's the real injustice.
And that smug, condescending tone about how Roberts used words
like rad or needed a dramatist persona just another sneering
example of elitism from a man who's never had to
fight for credibility in his life. He can't wrap his
head around the fact that survivors don't write with perfect
legal precision because they were busy surviving. But to him,
it's all about how tidy the narrative looks on paper.
It's almost onn the beloe until you remember who you're
dealing with, And in the end, the entire argument boils
down to this, my sister was convicted, so let's discredit
the girl who helped expose her, And even after all
the trials, all the evidence, and all the victims, the
Maxwell families still can't bring themselves to look in the mirror.
They'd rather attack the dead than accept the truth and
the entitlement of it. All reeks and it reeks of
a man that's so insulated by privilege that he actually
believes that he's the one qualified to weigh in on credibility.
The same family that stood by while their patriarchs stole
billions and crash dampires now wants to lecture the world
about ethics. The Maxwells have turned Denial into an art forum.
Every scandal, every crime, every life ruined, it's always someone
else's fault. He calls Virginia's story fictionalized, like he's uncovering
some grand conspiracy, when in reality, he's just parroting the
same gaslighting tactics that every abuser and enabler before him
have used. He nitpicks the details because he can't face
the big picture that his sister and her billionaire partner
were serial predators, and he's still run in defense years later,
still swinging at ghosts because the truth scorched the family
name beyond repair. You can almost feel the resentment dripping
from every line. How darrel, working class girl from Florida
bring down people with yachts and titles. How dare she
speak out about things polite society likes to pretend never happen.
It's the same contempt that's kept the elite protected for decades,
the same sneer that says she's beneath us so her
pain doesn't count. This fool doesn't care about natural justice.
He cares about restoring the Maxwell brand, trying to convince
the public that his sister's crimes were overblown and are
victims unreliable. It's a desperate attempt to rewrite history before
the ink on the verdict dries. But no matter how
many op eds he writes, no one's buying it. You
can't rebrand evil because when the doest settles, the truth
still stands. His sister groom children for a predator, His
sister lied, his sister got caught, and all the same
ammonious drivel in the world won't change that. What's truly
stalinist isn't survivors speaking out. It's rich families trying to
rewrite the record to save face. Yo, So save the lectures.
Speaker 2: Champ.
Speaker 1: The world seen what justice looks like. When your sister's
holding the keys. It looks like bribes, cover ups and NDAs.
It looks like power buying silence, And it looks exactly
like this column. Another privileged voice trying to talk down
to the dead because the living won't stop asking questions.
The Maxwell family doesn't get to decide who deserves belief anymore.
They forfeited that right the minute they helped the monster
operate in plain sight. And for her brother to sit
here moralizing about credibility after everything Delane did, after everything
she was convicted of, is beyond shameless, it's obscene. So no,
we're not taking lectures on precision or truth from the
House of Maxwell. Not when your sister's crimes are written
in court transcripts and your family's denial is inked in
every word you publish. You can posture all you want,
but history has already rendered its verdict, and no spin,
no revision, no smug essay can change that. This article
was published by The Spectator headlined don't take Virginia Roberts
memoir at face value. The author of this article, Ian Maxwell,
six months after she took her own life at age
forty one, Virginia roberts memoir and Nobody's Girl, written with
her professional collaborator Amy Wallace, has been published. It's bound
to evoke distinct and intensified feelings and readers because the
account of her suffering couple with the manner of her
death increases the emotional impact of the narrative. Or people
might know the story. Mister Maxwell, I know that your
sister was a vile, disgusting predator and that your sister
was directly responsible for the pain and suffering of countless girls.
Probably a good idea, just to own up to it.
The writing style and tone of a book feel authentic. Roberts,
who was born in nineteen eighty three, uses words like
rad meaning awesome or cool, and stoner dude to describe
someone who smokes a lot of weed, pluster, constant reliance
on music to make the world make sense, seem very
zenial as late Generation xers or early millennials are sometimes
called whatever that means? Or how about just Generation X?
Is this guy really going to try and posture and
talk about popular culture? Mister stiff upper lip himself, mister
Magoo's brother. Here's an idea, bro go eat some spotted
dick and shut your yap. If Roberts is to be believed,
one could not fail surely to be moved by her account,
which is quite graphic in places, and by the arc
of a tragic life that is chronicled in four parts
with emotative titles daughter, Prisoner, survivor, and warrior. There's no index, however,
so the book could have been done with a dramatist
persona to help keep track of who is in large
cast of characters. Above all, it would have benefited from
a detailed timeline of her life and the key events
that she describes. Oh that's how you wanted the book
to be formatted, mister Maxwell. Here's an idea. Sit your
dumbass sister down, bring her some Chick fil A, and
have her write a memoir. We're all very interested to
see what the bipedal serpent has to say. By the way,
you guys, ever, pay back that money that your dad stole.
Maybe you should put together a not at about that precision,
particularly to accurately identifying named abusers, when and where the
alleged abuse took place, and crucially how old she was
at the relevant times. Is not However, the author's strong
point when it comes to standing up her narrative version
of events. This precision really matters in the sexual abuse accusations.
Robert's levels who cares. You may ask if she was sixteen,
seventeen or eighteen when she met Jeffrey Epstein, who.
Speaker 2: She accused of years of abuse.
Speaker 1: It isn't a trivial difference, however, when it comes to
statutory rape charges. At my sister Glaine's trial, as Roberts
herself notes to her manifest disappointment, two of the accusers
testified only after the judge instructed jurors that their description
of alleged sexual conduct could not be used to convict
Glane of the crimes charged. Kate was above the age
of consent in the relevant jurisdiction, and Annie was not
considered a minor in New Mexico where the alleged sexual
contact had occurred sixteen years old. Sixteen years old, and
that's the defense you're going to use. That is some sick,
degenerate shit right there. And that's the kind of defense
that you have to fall back on when you don't
have anything else to go to. Right We're talking about
a real degenerate kind of fucking answer here. Ah, well
she was sixteen, that's cool, no big deal. Well what
about the other abuse of Annie? What about the fact
that you got pictures or your sister, I should say,
had pictures of Annie in various states of undress. This
guy really thinks that nobody paid attention during the trial.
You're not going to rewrite history. Why don't we go
back and read those impact statements? And if your sister
was so innocent, then why is she sitting in a
jail cell right now? Why was she convicted of the
crimes that she was accused of? If these witnesses were
so weak, if the witnesses were so terrible and bad,
why is your lame ass sister sitting in prison right now?
Ian Maxwell Roberts had previously accused Alan Dershowitz, the sometime
Epstein lawyer, of abusing her no fewer than six times,
including in the Netflix series Filthy Rich, but later admitted
she may have been mistaken. Yet in her memoir, she writes,
some critics have insinuated that there's no way I could
remember these men. But to them, I say simply this,
When a man has been on top of you, his
faith just inches from your own. You remember them. But
if that's true, how could she he have been mistaken
about Dershowitz I already explained this. She's giving you a
hint right here with what she's saying that she would
never forget the people who did what they did, and
Virginia was sick of the lawsuits. She had nothing else
to prove. She put all these names out here years
and years and years ago, and it was up to
the authorities to pursue them, to open investigations at the
very least and look deeper into the matter. They didn't
do any of that. So at some point you have
to say to yourself, enough is enough, right, And when
you read in between the lines of what Virginia's really saying,
that's certainly what it looks like to me. Now, look,
I don't know that for sure, and I won't sit
here and even begin to speak for Virginia or what
she meant. But when you read in between the lines,
and you've talked of Virginia before and you've heard what
she had to say, sure seems to me that she
was suffering from fatigue when it comes to the lawsuits
and just all of the stress and trauma surrounding the
whole situation, And I think the evidence is strengthened for
all of that when we see the end result of
what happened with Virginia and her taking her own life.
At some point, enough is enough?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: How much can one person shoulder When it comes to
Robert's first hand account of her time in Epstein and
Maxwell's orbit, Ammy Wallace, in her preface states it was
supported by thousands of pages of public core documents, including
sworn depositions containing the full names of many of the
men whom Virginia alleged she had been trafficked to. Their
contents are supported by numerous other sources, including published books
on the subject by authors such as Miami Herald, Julie K. Brown,
and Virginia's former attorney Bradley Edwards. As if the sheer
quantity of such material and the implied quality of the
names in support our standalone proof of Robert's overall veracity,
this is a surprisingly stalinist approach to corroborate, Buddy. We've
been through how many court documents here on this podcast,
how many depositions, how many different articles, and they all
lead to the same place. Your gross ass sister was
guilty and all the shit that Virginia was talking about
was going on, so let's see the evidence of it
not being true. And speaking of evidence, your skafuza of
his sister had every chance in the world to get
up on that stand and deny what happened. Why didn't
she do it? Why didn't you're a boy the Joe
exotic of the Windsor family defend his name because they're
fucking guilty, right, Ian Maxwell. There aren't many things that
I dislike more than people that punch down. I cannot
stamp people like Ian Maxwell who think that they can
use their money, their power, their prestige to bully people.
Now that might work with other folks, that shit is
day around here, because I promise you there is not
one bone in my body that is intimidated by any
of these people that took part in what was going on,
not one of them. And that goes for all their
re pundits too. Like I say, I'm not hard to find.
You want that smoke, come get it? You know, six
years on, for some reason, none of these motherfuckers ever
take me up on that offer, though, I mean hell,
they wouldn't even respond to me when I showed up
at Geffrey Epstein's house. So I guess that tells you
everything you need to know about all of these tough
guys in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit. Tough when it has to
do with beating up on girls, tough when it comes
to intimidating people, but not so tough when people are
willing to stand up to them and tell them to
go get fucked. Because, make no mistake, that's what I've
been telling this whole entire organization, this whole conglomarati, for
six years, and I'll continue to tell them that, and
they're in't a damn thing they can.
Speaker 2: Do about it.
Speaker 1: Roberts herself states in the introduction in her memoir, until now,
I have never told my whole story. Doing so allows
me to fill in gaps, to provide context where it
has been sorely lacking, and in key places, to set
the record straight. She confirms, however, that she did in
that complete a one hundred thirty nine page typewritten manuscript
entitled The Billionaire's Playboy Club. Although unpublished, it found its
way into the court record, and that's why I'm sharing
that with you as well. You deserve the whole story,
and then from there you can make your own decisions
about what you believe and what you don't believe. I've
never felt like I have to prove anything to anybody
about this story. For me, it's about providing you with
the facts, with receipts, and then you can look into
it yourself, and if you believe it, great, If you don't,
that's cool too. The context she then provides about the
version of her life is to blame the Mail on
Sunday reporter Sharon Churcher for advising her in twenty eleven
twenty twelve to fictionalize parts of the narrative to avoid
being sued. Like that wouldn't happen, Like she wouldn't have
been sued. It was good advice, especially back then. This,
she says, accounts for why my third encounter with Prince
Andrew occurred at Zoro Ranch in New Mexico, not where
it actually occurred the Caribbean. It wasn't until twenty nineteen
that Robert's own lawyers had to admit in court documents
that the manuscript was indeed fictionalized. No different than what
Glenn Maxwell has to say about everything right a complete
work of fiction. You know your serial liar's sister who
was charged with perjury and would have been convicted of
it if they didn't drop those charges. Oh yeah, that's
same person, and you have the stones to show up
talking about fictionalized it's from this disclaim memoir that Julie K.
Brown directly quotes Robert's verbatim or a paraphrases her in
her twenty twenty one book, Perversion of Justice. The book
is dedicated to Roberts, which might explain why Brown was
happy to corroborate her version of events to Wallace. Is
it any wonder, therefore, that Robert's credibility issues were one
reason she was neither named as a victim nor called
as a witness in my sister's prosecution. She claimed that
she was not called as a witness because she would
have been a distraction. But that's a self serving lie. Again,
this dud's talking about self serving and lies from a Maxwell.
Have you ever told the truth, Ian Maxwell about anything?
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 1: And the reason that Virginia wasn't used as a witness
is because the prosecution and the scope of that prosecution
was very narrow. There was no Rico, so they went
with the cases that they knew were rock solid for them.
What Ian Maxwell forgets to mention is that it was
the Glenn Maxwell and Virginia Roberts lawsuit that opened the
door for all of this, you know, the one that
Glenn Maxwell lost or she was proven to be a
liar time and time again. And that's why I find
this whole narrative that's being pitched here by Ian Maxwell
wild as hell. Your sister is the biggest liar in history,
and you're actually gonna try and paint somebody else with
that sam brush. At Glainne's sentencing hearing, despite not featuring
in her trial at any capacity, Roberts, who has never
cross examined under oath in any legal proceeding. That's a
lie Ghlainne Maxwell's lawyers cross examiner for the deposition. What
are you even talking about right now? How many times
did Virginia Roberts sit down with the authorities, not her fault,
they didn't proceed U ginormous twatwaffle, The statement itself could
not be subjected to cross examination, and Robert's most serious
and untested allegations at a time to Glaine's sentence.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your sister's the victim.
Speaker 1: Poor Glaine, You're lucky you're not sitting in a cell
next to her, because I have my doubts that you
didn't know what was going on when it comes.
Speaker 2: To your pops, how about that?
Speaker 1: Roberts frequently writes lines such as I didn't want money,
I wanted justice, and mentions her charity sore you have
despite having reportedly received more than twenty million in settlements,
including at least two million from Prince Andrew, they won't
even admit the amount with Prince Andrew. Imagine being that obtuse,
Imagine being that ridiculous. Well, that's just reality. If your
name's Maxwell. The charity was never fully established, lost its
tax exempt status due to inactivity, and has no record
of charitable giving. Nearly three quarters of the way through
the book, readers are asked if they can remember America
before the me Too movement, which reached its apex in
late twenty seventeen in the pursuit of justice. Me Too
was a wave that Roberts, guided by her ruthlessly adept advisors,
skillfully and above all profitably, rode to their mutual benefit.
Speaker 2: Bullshit.
Speaker 1: Nobody in pink hats showed up for Glenn Maxwell's trial.
In fact, everybody ignored what was going on, and it
was people like me who were talking about this. And
I'm certainly not a me too person, So save the bullshit.
It had nothing to do with me too. It had
to do with the fact that your sister and her
disgusting egg dick buddy were hurting kids. That's what it
had to do with. And not just kids, by the way,
other people. Let's not act like just because somebody is
an adult, they can't trafficked or abused. While that movement
has clearly raised increased public awareness of sexual misconduct, it
has also generated and an important debate over the erosion
of core principles of natural justice. The bully pulpit of
social media too often bypasses traditional mechanisms of due process,
with allegations leading to devastating reputational consequences before a formal
investigation or hearing can occur. Your sister had a hearing,
she was found guilty. Prince Andrew was given the chance
to defend himself. He decided to settle. So what are
you even talking about right now? Who hasn't been given
due process? And speaking of due process, since he's such
a big fan of it, I guess he'd add no
problem if there was an investigation launched into Prince Andrew,
because you know, due process and all. That's what he's
worried about, right right. By May of twenty twenty presidential
candidate as he was then, Joe Biden, facing allegations from
a former staffer of sexual harassment twenty seven years earlier,
produced a more nuanced interpretation of the original METWO slogan
Believe Women when he said, there's a belief that women
should be heard, that they deserve to be treated with
dignity and respect, and that their story shouldn't be subject
to appropriate inquiry and scrutiny. So we're going to quote
Joe Biden. Now, okay, I guess did Joe Biden actually
give us that quote or was it a stunt double?
Even if only parts of Robert's account are true, she
is still a person who suffered and deserves sympathy. Oh yeah,
nice qualifier at the end there, Ian Maxwell. But that
cannot excuse the fact that she accused innocent people of
serious crimes and destroyed reputations and lives. Her claims, like anyone's,
must be carefully vetted to approach this book with the
assumption that she is telling the truth necessarily means imposing
a presumption of guilt on everyone she is accused of
sexual assault, placing the burden on them to prove their innocence.
This is contrary to all the principles of natural justice.
Every single one of them, for the most part, has
ponied up money.
Speaker 2: What do you even mean.
Speaker 1: Brunel ended up getting arrested, Glenn Dubin ponied up money,
Leon Black ponied up money. Just Daley ponied up money.
Prince Andrew ponied up money. Your sister sitting in prison,
Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for his crimes. What are you
even talking about right now? Because if there was any
natural justice in the world, your sister wouldn't be looking
at twenty years, she'd be looking at a life sentence.
So let's just call this bullshit. What it is a
brother that's swinging blindly in defense of a fallen empire,
a man so desperate to protect what's left of the
family name that he's willing to drag a dead woman
through the mud just to keep pretending that his sister
was misunderstood. Instead of monstrous, you want to talk about
natural justice. Natural justice is watching the powerful finally answer
for what they did. It's survivors refusing to shut up
no matter how many smug columns get printed to gaslight them.
It's the truth outlasting money, titles and bloodlines, because no
matter how many essays you write, no matter how many
deflections you print, no matter how many times you twist
the narrative, the world remembers what your sister did, So
spare us the moral theater. The Maxwells had their chance
to tell the truth, and they chose to lie. Virginia
told hers and paid for it with her peace, her sanity,
and in the end, her life. That's something no family
of privilege could ever understand. And when it's all said
and done, when history looks back at this whole sordid mess,
it won't remember the pompous columns or the spin. It'll
remember who prayed, who enabled, who covered, and who spoke up. Anyway,
so take your selective outrage, your crocodile tears for due process,
your tired revisionism, and shove it right next to your
sister's rolodex of monsters. Because justice is I'm played anymore.
It's pissed off, wide awake, and it's coming for every
last one of you who thought power could buy redemption.
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