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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. Well, well, well, isn't this rich A Maxwell

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is lecturing the world about natural justice. You honestly couldn't

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script irony this thick if you tried. Here, we've got

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Glayne's own brother, blood of the same dynasty that spent

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decades cocooned and wealth, privilege and denial, pretending to be

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the voice of reason while taking potshots at a woman

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who didn't have the luxury of lawyers, lords, or private

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jets to hide behind. The sheer nerve of it almost

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deserves applause.

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Speaker 2: Almost.

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Speaker 1: This man, whose sister was convicted of sex trafficking miners,

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somehow thinks he's the arbiter of truth. Wagon his finger

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at Virginia Robert's memoir as if it's some great threat

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to jurisprudence. As you'll see, he drones on about precision

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and timelines like a courtroom accountant, never mind the grow

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test crimes that his sister was convicted of enabling and

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taking part in. He talks about due process while casually ignoring,

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however and Glane spend decades weaponizing the same system to

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destroy lives. The hypocrisy is so dense it's practically a

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black hole. So let's get real. What we're talking about

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here is not literary criticism. This is a family pr

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cleanup disguised as moral philosophy. It's damage control with the thesaurus,

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because deep down, every maxwell knows the family name is radioactive,

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and no amount of sanctimony or pseudo legal babble will

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scrub it clean. So here he is wagging his pen

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at a dead survivor's book like that's the real injustice.

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And that smug, condescending tone about how Roberts used words

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like rad or needed a dramatist persona just another sneering

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example of elitism from a man who's never had to

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fight for credibility in his life. He can't wrap his

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head around the fact that survivors don't write with perfect

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legal precision because they were busy surviving. But to him,

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it's all about how tidy the narrative looks on paper.

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It's almost onn the beloe until you remember who you're

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dealing with, And in the end, the entire argument boils

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down to this, my sister was convicted, so let's discredit

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the girl who helped expose her, And even after all

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the trials, all the evidence, and all the victims, the

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Maxwell families still can't bring themselves to look in the mirror.

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They'd rather attack the dead than accept the truth and

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the entitlement of it. All reeks and it reeks of

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a man that's so insulated by privilege that he actually

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believes that he's the one qualified to weigh in on credibility.

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The same family that stood by while their patriarchs stole

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billions and crash dampires now wants to lecture the world

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about ethics. The Maxwells have turned Denial into an art forum.

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Every scandal, every crime, every life ruined, it's always someone

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else's fault. He calls Virginia's story fictionalized, like he's uncovering

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some grand conspiracy, when in reality, he's just parroting the

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same gaslighting tactics that every abuser and enabler before him

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have used. He nitpicks the details because he can't face

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the big picture that his sister and her billionaire partner

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were serial predators, and he's still run in defense years later,

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still swinging at ghosts because the truth scorched the family

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name beyond repair. You can almost feel the resentment dripping

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from every line. How darrel, working class girl from Florida

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bring down people with yachts and titles. How dare she

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speak out about things polite society likes to pretend never happen.

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It's the same contempt that's kept the elite protected for decades,

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the same sneer that says she's beneath us so her

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pain doesn't count. This fool doesn't care about natural justice.

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He cares about restoring the Maxwell brand, trying to convince

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the public that his sister's crimes were overblown and are

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victims unreliable. It's a desperate attempt to rewrite history before

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the ink on the verdict dries. But no matter how

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many op eds he writes, no one's buying it. You

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can't rebrand evil because when the doest settles, the truth

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still stands. His sister groom children for a predator, His

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sister lied, his sister got caught, and all the same

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ammonious drivel in the world won't change that. What's truly

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stalinist isn't survivors speaking out. It's rich families trying to

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rewrite the record to save face. Yo, So save the lectures.

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Speaker 2: Champ.

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Speaker 1: The world seen what justice looks like. When your sister's

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holding the keys. It looks like bribes, cover ups and NDAs.

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It looks like power buying silence, And it looks exactly

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like this column. Another privileged voice trying to talk down

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to the dead because the living won't stop asking questions.

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The Maxwell family doesn't get to decide who deserves belief anymore.

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They forfeited that right the minute they helped the monster

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operate in plain sight. And for her brother to sit

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here moralizing about credibility after everything Delane did, after everything

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she was convicted of, is beyond shameless, it's obscene. So no,

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we're not taking lectures on precision or truth from the

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House of Maxwell. Not when your sister's crimes are written

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in court transcripts and your family's denial is inked in

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every word you publish. You can posture all you want,

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but history has already rendered its verdict, and no spin,

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no revision, no smug essay can change that. This article

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was published by The Spectator headlined don't take Virginia Roberts

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memoir at face value. The author of this article, Ian Maxwell,

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six months after she took her own life at age

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forty one, Virginia roberts memoir and Nobody's Girl, written with

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her professional collaborator Amy Wallace, has been published. It's bound

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to evoke distinct and intensified feelings and readers because the

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account of her suffering couple with the manner of her

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death increases the emotional impact of the narrative. Or people

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might know the story. Mister Maxwell, I know that your

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sister was a vile, disgusting predator and that your sister

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was directly responsible for the pain and suffering of countless girls.

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Probably a good idea, just to own up to it.

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The writing style and tone of a book feel authentic. Roberts,

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who was born in nineteen eighty three, uses words like

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rad meaning awesome or cool, and stoner dude to describe

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someone who smokes a lot of weed, pluster, constant reliance

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on music to make the world make sense, seem very

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zenial as late Generation xers or early millennials are sometimes

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called whatever that means? Or how about just Generation X?

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Is this guy really going to try and posture and

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talk about popular culture? Mister stiff upper lip himself, mister

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Magoo's brother. Here's an idea, bro go eat some spotted

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dick and shut your yap. If Roberts is to be believed,

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one could not fail surely to be moved by her account,

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which is quite graphic in places, and by the arc

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of a tragic life that is chronicled in four parts

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with emotative titles daughter, Prisoner, survivor, and warrior. There's no index, however,

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so the book could have been done with a dramatist

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persona to help keep track of who is in large

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cast of characters. Above all, it would have benefited from

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a detailed timeline of her life and the key events

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that she describes. Oh that's how you wanted the book

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to be formatted, mister Maxwell. Here's an idea. Sit your

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dumbass sister down, bring her some Chick fil A, and

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have her write a memoir. We're all very interested to

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see what the bipedal serpent has to say. By the way,

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you guys, ever, pay back that money that your dad stole.

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Maybe you should put together a not at about that precision,

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particularly to accurately identifying named abusers, when and where the

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alleged abuse took place, and crucially how old she was

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at the relevant times. Is not However, the author's strong

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point when it comes to standing up her narrative version

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of events. This precision really matters in the sexual abuse accusations.

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Robert's levels who cares. You may ask if she was sixteen,

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seventeen or eighteen when she met Jeffrey Epstein, who.

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Speaker 2: She accused of years of abuse.

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Speaker 1: It isn't a trivial difference, however, when it comes to

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statutory rape charges. At my sister Glaine's trial, as Roberts

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herself notes to her manifest disappointment, two of the accusers

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testified only after the judge instructed jurors that their description

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of alleged sexual conduct could not be used to convict

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Glane of the crimes charged. Kate was above the age

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of consent in the relevant jurisdiction, and Annie was not

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considered a minor in New Mexico where the alleged sexual

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contact had occurred sixteen years old. Sixteen years old, and

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that's the defense you're going to use. That is some sick,

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degenerate shit right there. And that's the kind of defense

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that you have to fall back on when you don't

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have anything else to go to. Right We're talking about

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a real degenerate kind of fucking answer here. Ah, well

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she was sixteen, that's cool, no big deal. Well what

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about the other abuse of Annie? What about the fact

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that you got pictures or your sister, I should say,

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had pictures of Annie in various states of undress. This

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guy really thinks that nobody paid attention during the trial.

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You're not going to rewrite history. Why don't we go

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back and read those impact statements? And if your sister

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was so innocent, then why is she sitting in a

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jail cell right now? Why was she convicted of the

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crimes that she was accused of? If these witnesses were

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so weak, if the witnesses were so terrible and bad,

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why is your lame ass sister sitting in prison right now?

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Ian Maxwell Roberts had previously accused Alan Dershowitz, the sometime

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Epstein lawyer, of abusing her no fewer than six times,

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including in the Netflix series Filthy Rich, but later admitted

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she may have been mistaken. Yet in her memoir, she writes,

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some critics have insinuated that there's no way I could

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remember these men. But to them, I say simply this,

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When a man has been on top of you, his

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faith just inches from your own. You remember them. But

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if that's true, how could she he have been mistaken

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about Dershowitz I already explained this. She's giving you a

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hint right here with what she's saying that she would

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never forget the people who did what they did, and

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Virginia was sick of the lawsuits. She had nothing else

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to prove. She put all these names out here years

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and years and years ago, and it was up to

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the authorities to pursue them, to open investigations at the

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very least and look deeper into the matter. They didn't

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do any of that. So at some point you have

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to say to yourself, enough is enough, right, And when

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you read in between the lines of what Virginia's really saying,

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that's certainly what it looks like to me. Now, look,

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I don't know that for sure, and I won't sit

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here and even begin to speak for Virginia or what

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she meant. But when you read in between the lines,

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and you've talked of Virginia before and you've heard what

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she had to say, sure seems to me that she

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was suffering from fatigue when it comes to the lawsuits

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and just all of the stress and trauma surrounding the

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whole situation, And I think the evidence is strengthened for

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all of that when we see the end result of

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what happened with Virginia and her taking her own life.

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At some point, enough is enough?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: How much can one person shoulder When it comes to

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Robert's first hand account of her time in Epstein and

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Maxwell's orbit, Ammy Wallace, in her preface states it was

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supported by thousands of pages of public core documents, including

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sworn depositions containing the full names of many of the

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men whom Virginia alleged she had been trafficked to. Their

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contents are supported by numerous other sources, including published books

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on the subject by authors such as Miami Herald, Julie K. Brown,

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and Virginia's former attorney Bradley Edwards. As if the sheer

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quantity of such material and the implied quality of the

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names in support our standalone proof of Robert's overall veracity,

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this is a surprisingly stalinist approach to corroborate, Buddy. We've

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been through how many court documents here on this podcast,

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how many depositions, how many different articles, and they all

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lead to the same place. Your gross ass sister was

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guilty and all the shit that Virginia was talking about

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was going on, so let's see the evidence of it

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not being true. And speaking of evidence, your skafuza of

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his sister had every chance in the world to get

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up on that stand and deny what happened. Why didn't

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she do it? Why didn't you're a boy the Joe

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exotic of the Windsor family defend his name because they're

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fucking guilty, right, Ian Maxwell. There aren't many things that

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I dislike more than people that punch down. I cannot

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stamp people like Ian Maxwell who think that they can

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use their money, their power, their prestige to bully people.

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Now that might work with other folks, that shit is

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day around here, because I promise you there is not

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one bone in my body that is intimidated by any

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of these people that took part in what was going on,

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not one of them. And that goes for all their

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re pundits too. Like I say, I'm not hard to find.

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You want that smoke, come get it? You know, six

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years on, for some reason, none of these motherfuckers ever

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take me up on that offer, though, I mean hell,

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they wouldn't even respond to me when I showed up

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at Geffrey Epstein's house. So I guess that tells you

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everything you need to know about all of these tough

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guys in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit. Tough when it has to

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do with beating up on girls, tough when it comes

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to intimidating people, but not so tough when people are

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willing to stand up to them and tell them to

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go get fucked. Because, make no mistake, that's what I've

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been telling this whole entire organization, this whole conglomarati, for

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six years, and I'll continue to tell them that, and

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they're in't a damn thing they can.

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Speaker 2: Do about it.

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Speaker 1: Roberts herself states in the introduction in her memoir, until now,

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I have never told my whole story. Doing so allows

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me to fill in gaps, to provide context where it

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has been sorely lacking, and in key places, to set

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the record straight. She confirms, however, that she did in

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that complete a one hundred thirty nine page typewritten manuscript

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entitled The Billionaire's Playboy Club. Although unpublished, it found its

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way into the court record, and that's why I'm sharing

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that with you as well. You deserve the whole story,

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and then from there you can make your own decisions

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about what you believe and what you don't believe. I've

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never felt like I have to prove anything to anybody

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about this story. For me, it's about providing you with

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the facts, with receipts, and then you can look into

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it yourself, and if you believe it, great, If you don't,

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that's cool too. The context she then provides about the

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version of her life is to blame the Mail on

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Sunday reporter Sharon Churcher for advising her in twenty eleven

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twenty twelve to fictionalize parts of the narrative to avoid

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being sued. Like that wouldn't happen, Like she wouldn't have

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been sued. It was good advice, especially back then. This,

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she says, accounts for why my third encounter with Prince

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Andrew occurred at Zoro Ranch in New Mexico, not where

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it actually occurred the Caribbean. It wasn't until twenty nineteen

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that Robert's own lawyers had to admit in court documents

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that the manuscript was indeed fictionalized. No different than what

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Glenn Maxwell has to say about everything right a complete

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work of fiction. You know your serial liar's sister who

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was charged with perjury and would have been convicted of

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it if they didn't drop those charges. Oh yeah, that's

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same person, and you have the stones to show up

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talking about fictionalized it's from this disclaim memoir that Julie K.

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Brown directly quotes Robert's verbatim or a paraphrases her in

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her twenty twenty one book, Perversion of Justice. The book

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is dedicated to Roberts, which might explain why Brown was

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happy to corroborate her version of events to Wallace. Is

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it any wonder, therefore, that Robert's credibility issues were one

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reason she was neither named as a victim nor called

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as a witness in my sister's prosecution. She claimed that

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she was not called as a witness because she would

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have been a distraction. But that's a self serving lie. Again,

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this dud's talking about self serving and lies from a Maxwell.

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Have you ever told the truth, Ian Maxwell about anything?

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Speaker 2: Ever?

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Speaker 1: And the reason that Virginia wasn't used as a witness

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is because the prosecution and the scope of that prosecution

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was very narrow. There was no Rico, so they went

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with the cases that they knew were rock solid for them.

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What Ian Maxwell forgets to mention is that it was

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the Glenn Maxwell and Virginia Roberts lawsuit that opened the

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door for all of this, you know, the one that

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Glenn Maxwell lost or she was proven to be a

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liar time and time again. And that's why I find

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this whole narrative that's being pitched here by Ian Maxwell

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wild as hell. Your sister is the biggest liar in history,

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and you're actually gonna try and paint somebody else with

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that sam brush. At Glainne's sentencing hearing, despite not featuring

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in her trial at any capacity, Roberts, who has never

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cross examined under oath in any legal proceeding. That's a

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lie Ghlainne Maxwell's lawyers cross examiner for the deposition. What

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are you even talking about right now? How many times

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did Virginia Roberts sit down with the authorities, not her fault,

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they didn't proceed U ginormous twatwaffle, The statement itself could

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not be subjected to cross examination, and Robert's most serious

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and untested allegations at a time to Glaine's sentence.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your sister's the victim.

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Speaker 1: Poor Glaine, You're lucky you're not sitting in a cell

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next to her, because I have my doubts that you

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didn't know what was going on when it comes.

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Speaker 2: To your pops, how about that?

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Speaker 1: Roberts frequently writes lines such as I didn't want money,

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I wanted justice, and mentions her charity sore you have

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despite having reportedly received more than twenty million in settlements,

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including at least two million from Prince Andrew, they won't

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even admit the amount with Prince Andrew. Imagine being that obtuse,

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Imagine being that ridiculous. Well, that's just reality. If your

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name's Maxwell. The charity was never fully established, lost its

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tax exempt status due to inactivity, and has no record

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of charitable giving. Nearly three quarters of the way through

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the book, readers are asked if they can remember America

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before the me Too movement, which reached its apex in

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late twenty seventeen in the pursuit of justice. Me Too

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was a wave that Roberts, guided by her ruthlessly adept advisors,

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skillfully and above all profitably, rode to their mutual benefit.

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Speaker 2: Bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in pink hats showed up for Glenn Maxwell's trial.

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In fact, everybody ignored what was going on, and it

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was people like me who were talking about this. And

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I'm certainly not a me too person, So save the bullshit.

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It had nothing to do with me too. It had

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to do with the fact that your sister and her

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disgusting egg dick buddy were hurting kids. That's what it

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had to do with. And not just kids, by the way,

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other people. Let's not act like just because somebody is

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an adult, they can't trafficked or abused. While that movement

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has clearly raised increased public awareness of sexual misconduct, it

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has also generated and an important debate over the erosion

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of core principles of natural justice. The bully pulpit of

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social media too often bypasses traditional mechanisms of due process,

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with allegations leading to devastating reputational consequences before a formal

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investigation or hearing can occur. Your sister had a hearing,

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she was found guilty. Prince Andrew was given the chance

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to defend himself. He decided to settle. So what are

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you even talking about right now? Who hasn't been given

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due process? And speaking of due process, since he's such

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a big fan of it, I guess he'd add no

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problem if there was an investigation launched into Prince Andrew,

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because you know, due process and all. That's what he's

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worried about, right right. By May of twenty twenty presidential

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candidate as he was then, Joe Biden, facing allegations from

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a former staffer of sexual harassment twenty seven years earlier,

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produced a more nuanced interpretation of the original METWO slogan

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Believe Women when he said, there's a belief that women

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should be heard, that they deserve to be treated with

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dignity and respect, and that their story shouldn't be subject

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to appropriate inquiry and scrutiny. So we're going to quote

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Joe Biden. Now, okay, I guess did Joe Biden actually

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give us that quote or was it a stunt double?

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Even if only parts of Robert's account are true, she

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is still a person who suffered and deserves sympathy. Oh yeah,

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nice qualifier at the end there, Ian Maxwell. But that

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cannot excuse the fact that she accused innocent people of

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serious crimes and destroyed reputations and lives. Her claims, like anyone's,

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must be carefully vetted to approach this book with the

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assumption that she is telling the truth necessarily means imposing

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a presumption of guilt on everyone she is accused of

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sexual assault, placing the burden on them to prove their innocence.

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This is contrary to all the principles of natural justice.

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Every single one of them, for the most part, has

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ponied up money.

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Speaker 2: What do you even mean.

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Speaker 1: Brunel ended up getting arrested, Glenn Dubin ponied up money,

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Leon Black ponied up money. Just Daley ponied up money.

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Prince Andrew ponied up money. Your sister sitting in prison,

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Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for his crimes. What are you

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even talking about right now? Because if there was any

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natural justice in the world, your sister wouldn't be looking

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at twenty years, she'd be looking at a life sentence.

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So let's just call this bullshit. What it is a

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brother that's swinging blindly in defense of a fallen empire,

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a man so desperate to protect what's left of the

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family name that he's willing to drag a dead woman

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through the mud just to keep pretending that his sister

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was misunderstood. Instead of monstrous, you want to talk about

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natural justice. Natural justice is watching the powerful finally answer

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for what they did. It's survivors refusing to shut up

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no matter how many smug columns get printed to gaslight them.

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It's the truth outlasting money, titles and bloodlines, because no

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matter how many essays you write, no matter how many

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deflections you print, no matter how many times you twist

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the narrative, the world remembers what your sister did, So

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spare us the moral theater. The Maxwells had their chance

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to tell the truth, and they chose to lie. Virginia

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told hers and paid for it with her peace, her sanity,

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and in the end, her life. That's something no family

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of privilege could ever understand. And when it's all said

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and done, when history looks back at this whole sordid mess,

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it won't remember the pompous columns or the spin. It'll

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remember who prayed, who enabled, who covered, and who spoke up. Anyway,

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so take your selective outrage, your crocodile tears for due process,

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your tired revisionism, and shove it right next to your

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sister's rolodex of monsters. Because justice is I'm played anymore.

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It's pissed off, wide awake, and it's coming for every

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last one of you who thought power could buy redemption.

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