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Speaker 1: Yeah, the life of two moms with kids that are
not young kids anymore, but they're still kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're still goad babies. Huh, We'll always be our babies. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So Xander just got all of his applications in the
rest of Oh good because the deadline January fifteenth was
like the hard deadline for a bunch of private schools, right,
And I kind of say, I'm pretty proud of that kid,
because for a while I was like, how's it going
with the apps, you know? And then I was like,
you know what, my name's Paul. If you want to
go go as I talked about last week, and then
he did it. He did it. I would get these
emails that was like, Xander turned in an application for
Chapman University, and I was like Okay, that's awesome. But
there was a supplemental thing. He had to do this Actually, well,
you know I told you that my kids don't listen
to the podcast, but remember one time Xander's phone was
on in the car and I was playing for Crying
Out Last. It's like, why are you listening to it?
I don't listen to it, but it's in my subscription.
So sometimes like the next podcast up starts playing and
I was like, I'll girl hit unsubscribed, so I will
only say something about him that he knows is true
about himself. Whatever I might get in I might get
in trouble with my son for this. But so he
had this crazy supplemental It wasn't just an essay. It
wasn't like why this school his program. It was like
he was applying for something that was maybe like a
PR advertising media thing major. They made him talk about
a campaign, like a social media or a campaign for
a product or thing and why it worked or didn't work. Okay,
so I said to him earlier he was like kind
of pitching me some ideas and I was like, yeah,
but you know who would be really good is dad,
Like you guys can bond because John went to Syracuse
New houseool of like all the media school and he
and he originally was going to major in advertising, and
I think he did take advertising classes and I was like, yeah,
I'll be able to help.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Xander of course doesn't bring it up to John.
And I told John about it, and he was like, hey, Xander,
if you need my help or whatever, like totally available.
Speaker 2: You know, right, No, it doesn't ask it like Sonny
that like one.
Speaker 1: Day before I want to say, was like, hey, Dad,
can you like help me with the can you help
me with this? And then he brought him some ideas.
Oh my god, Lynnette, it was hours. So he put
it off until the last minute the night. So he
applied to the school. But then you have until midnight
on the fifteenth to turn in this supplemental thing. And
I didn't act. I wasn't like, but what about the thing?
It's like two pages long, cite all your sources. It's
like a fucking.
Speaker 2: Project, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally going to do it.
Speaker 1: Well, he did it then day it was due, and
then he's sitting in the office with John and I
keep kind of walking by and I can see John
just looks a little bit defeated. Yeah. Face. He's just
like and I just hear him every once in a
while go huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then John texts me I was in the bedroom. I
was like, I'm just going to watch TV in here
because I'm not good at this.
Speaker 2: Right through college. Yeah, you can handle it. Yeah college boys, Yes, with.
Speaker 1: Your goals and operations, you guys can do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: John texts me at one point he was just like,
this is so hard. He goes Xander argues every idea.
Speaker 2: He's so like Sonny that way too. Everything's last minute
and then everything's like they know better. You know, Xander
knows hard head, very like very hard headed. But John
is way more patient about it than I am, because
I get mad every once in a while when Xander's
being like that. I'm like Xander, like you don't know everything. Yeah.
I would be that way too.
Speaker 1: I know some stuff and you're not always right, and
he'll be like oh games or you know, like yeah.
But with John, he's just like and then he told
me afterwards, he's like, yeah, I would try to give
him an idea and he goes none of my ideas,
Like I didn't get it. He you know, and he
was like, I wasn't trying to tell him what to
do or make him do my idea. He's like, but
I would just offer suggestions and he'd be like no, no, no,
And he was like he was getting himself really anxious
about it. And then he's just a super perfectionist. Yes.
And then that was making me anxious in the other
room because I'm like, he's not going to get it
done right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then at eleven thirty he had to trust him,
and then he.
Speaker 1: Came in and read it to me. He came in,
He's like, mom, can I read this too so you
can Like, I'm like, it's eleven thirty, Like I don't
know what I'm going.
Speaker 2: To offer, yeah, right, But of course I was like
of course, yeah.
Speaker 1: So he read it to me and then I was like,
that's amazing. Send it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great though, I mean, you got at some point,
you know, I learned to back off, you know, and
let them just do their thing. I feel like they
both got it. They know what they're doing, like, are
you applying?
Speaker 1: Are you doing this?
Speaker 2: You're getting all the right credits? Da da da, we
got it. I got it. We got they get mad. Yeah, like,
don't talk to me about it, right. Yeah, And Sonny
is very last minute, very.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. Sander was very last minute, last couple
of days. He could have been doing it through the
whole winter break.
Speaker 2: Never never done it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, school started back up, and yeah, but he
applied to University of Redlands, which I don't know much
about that school Chapman for that very creative major. Yeah
that I don't know what. I can't remember exactly what
it is, marketing, medium marketing something, okay, and then LMU,
Loyala and Marymount. Yeah, just like buy the airport. That's great.
Maybe one more could have been four okay, And so
he's done. That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that must feel a relief. And when you guys
find out.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we find out about the privates,
I don't know. But the UC's decisions come out in March.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's exciting. It's gonna be a lot, it's going
to be exciting. Xander's going to be going on his
journey soon.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just you know what, I know I've
said this before. I mean it. I'm much more zen.
I feel much more zen about the UC's because A
he got into San Diego State, which could be a
great school. B it is what it is, like all
my expectations and hopes for LB and she was so
locked in, like we're met with it's so disappointing that
I just don't want to care. I know, I get
it even for him, and I don't want him to
care that much. I want to be like wherever you're
meant to be is whoever wants you. That's more where
you're got to be. If you don't get in, good, fine, he's.
Speaker 2: Going to get in. He's gonna get into I think
a lot of them, and then he's gonna have to
make a choice. I hope so. And then then he's
gonna move out.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I get rejected from all of them,
and maybe San Diego s will suck, and then he'll
just stay home right in bed, nothing, keep all my kids.
You know, listen, Xandra will move out, but I'll be
will move home.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: Sadie is not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, Okay, She's going to just be home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna be. Sadie's going to be my failure
to launch, or Sadie will end up being like more
successful than all of us, right, and just in her
own way.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, everybody has their own path. It doesn't
have to be the same thing going to college whatever
it is. College is not for everybody, and you know,
a lot of look at us. You know, there's a
lot of people we know that didn't go to college
and they're very successful. So you know they everybody's got
to find their own way.
Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I agree. Well, you know it's all
like an unknown, but we hope for the best. Yeah.
But I had such a good time this weekend. So
I went to see Beiji's Gold, which is the Beigi's
tribute band.
Speaker 2: That's so awesome.
Speaker 1: I went with my big mom group. So that's the
same group that I do, like my Hanaka party. Yeah,
that I do my stuff with my Cecily and my
Laura and those people, and we're a big We're a
group of ten and nine of us went to this law.
When is Julie a part of that group? No, Okay,
Julie is jew mom adjacent, yeah, by which like she
knows a lot of those women, but she's not part
of that. Like most of them were friends with each
other even before I was friends with them, like I
come by way of Laura, okay. It was my first
friend from mommy and me. And then Laura introduced me
to Cecily, who I knew since like Elbe and her
daughter Ava were like four. I want to say, yeah, four,
maybe five, and then we beat. The three of us
were pretty tight and then I slowly got introduced to
the ret They all knew each other like from Temple right,
and all their kids went to the same elementary school.
And Elbe didn't, I see, Julie's kids did not either
she they went to different schools, okay, But me and
Julie and Lara were friends, like when the kids were
like one.
Speaker 2: So where what mommy and me did you go to?
Speaker 1: It was like at a temple oh okay, at Temple
Valley Beth Shalom VBS.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you know, I went to that stupid place
that what was it called that everybody said they had
to go you had to go to in Sino Judea.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't it.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have taken my kids to a
Jewish school. No, it was it was uh, I can't
think of the.
Speaker 1: Name of it.
Speaker 2: It was in Cino and at the time, every like
like people at ABC, all the women executives took their
kids there.
Speaker 1: Dot rel.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't a Jewish place. Oh, because I can't.
I'm not Jewish.
Speaker 1: You're saying what it was a school though, No, it
wasn't a school.
Speaker 2: It was the mommy and me like like take your
babies like I did. The twin class, right.
Speaker 1: That was the Jackie's class. Jackie's class. That's what it
was called about many times. Yes, yeah, because yeah, I
didn't get in because I can you believe it. I
tried to apply after Elbie was born.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I remember you have.
Speaker 1: To apply when you're pregnant.
Speaker 2: Our old producer and all those kinds of all those
artsy whatever, those you know people in Hollywood or whatever.
They were always like, oh, you got to go to
Jackie's class. Jackie's class like with the babies. And then
I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not, but
I do need a twins class. And then somebody said
there's a great twins class in Encino and I went
there and it was Jackie's class. They were like, make
out the check to Jackie's class. I was like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 1: I didn't. Then it wasn't Jackie teacher.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Jackie because it was a woman that had
twins yet, just South African woman.
Speaker 1: So my sheen Cecily, not podcast Cecily, my other friend Cecily.
She was a Jackie's class defector. Like she met another
mom and she said they would just be like this
is such bullshit, like yeah, so many rules. It was
like a dictatorship and they like quit in the middle.
Really just became friends with each other. See.
Speaker 2: I liked the one the teacher I had because she
gave us a lot of tips with twins, like you know,
this is what you do when they're sick with a fever.
And the kids were like six months old at the time,
and you'd take them to the class and that was good.
Remember the pew pew kid. Yeah, I just found out
he's a pilot. Yeah, but he's all grown up and
he's a pilot.
Speaker 1: Now, oh my god, little pew pew pew pew pew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Sonny Natalia didn't want to play with him
because he was immature. Yeah, now he's a pilot. Wow. Yeah,
I saw a picture of him. He's cute. It's got
long hair, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: How did you put that together? Though? With Jackiey's gloss.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about you were talking about kids
that your kids grew up with since they were little, huh.
And I was trying to think, like Sonny, Natalia, they
only don't have anybody from when they were really little
because we lived in a different area. But then when
they were in second grade. Now they're friends with their
friends from second grade all the way. Like Natalia is
like best friends with her friend from second grade, Olivia.
Speaker 1: Okah's at Penn State.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. Batalia told me she was calling her on
and she had her phone. She was in a lecture
in a big room at Penn State, and Natalia kept
calling her and she was trying to put it on side,
and then it went through her laptop. It's like, and
she had the text today like I'm in the middle
of a lecture, Oh my god. And I was like,
I will not be ignored. I shouldn't say that, but yeah, anyway,
that's what I was thinking about. Yeah, kid, say anyway.
Speaker 1: One time I got into a fight. This is related.
This was many years ago, but one of the fights
I got into with my friend Laura, who like I said,
I've been now, I've been friends with her for twenty
one years, but so many years ago about the camp
about camp, right, So Elbe had been too anxious to
go to Sleepway Camp and all the Jewish moms, all
their kids all went off the camp together. And then
one year later, you know, Elb was like, I don't know,
maybe I want to go. And then she went to
this like a weekend, like a spring They did a
spring camp that was only two nights, it was, but
it was with the camp, and Elbie went and she
had fun, and Lara's daughter went too, and so did
another Basically LB kind of more bonded with this other girl,
and I think Lara got worried that LB now wanted
to come to the summer camp. And Lara was acting
a little bit like Elbi was going to now be
like an interloper. And I felt the vibe like she's
just anxious person, and she was just like she was
worried about her daughter feeling included. You know, those days
worried about our kids.
Speaker 2: Those the worst, those days.
Speaker 1: People triangulating, worried about is our kid going to have
a great time? Going to change the vibe I was
going to get left out the way Laura was presenting
it to me. So they're like fourth grade at this point,
and Lara was like, well, you know, like it's it's
Camp Jca Shalom, like you know, it's it's pretty Jewish.
And I was like, yeah, I know, right, I know that.
And she was like, I mean you know there's like
there they do like a torah thing on like one day,
and I was like, uh huh. And then she just
she kept mentioning it, like she'd be like, I mean,
is John okay like with her doing that? And I go, yeah,
it doesn't care. And then at one point Lara kind
of goes, I mean, it's just surprising that you that
she'd want to go, or that you'd want her to go,
because like, you're not that Jewish. So finally I just
I got really mad, as you would say, I had
an assphole, so like, yeah, you're not that Jewish. And
I was like, Lara, I go, have you forgotten that
we literally met at a temple Mommy and me. It
doesn't get more Jewish though, yet we met at temple, right,
so where do you get that I'm not that jew Like?
So what she was like and then I basically was like,
why don't you want LB to go to camp? And
then she was like, you're right, I think I'm just
worried about things changing up and like, and I was like,
it's going to be fine, and then it's totally fine. Yeah,
and then every year our kids went to camp together
wow until like the end of high school. So it
was fine. Yeah, it's just funny because we really did
like I was kind of yell, I was really.
Speaker 2: Mad, right, yeah, hello, yeah, yeah, come on, toxic mom group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just funny. She still every once in
a while brings it up and she's like, I'm sorry, yeah,
I know, remember when we got mad. I'm not that Jewish.
Then her other friend, Cecily, will every once in a
while be like, that's so funny that blah blah blah
because you're not that jewish. R Like yeah, Like if
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Speaker 1: So anyway, yes, the whole big mom group and I
went to the Canyon Club to see the Beg's. I
organizized it all and went and bought the tickets.
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, were you worried about your ears?
Speaker 1: Well, guess what. I brought earplugs with me this time,
but I didn't even need them.
Speaker 2: Really so good.
Speaker 1: And the last time I saw the Beg's Gold I
was with Robin. It was years ago. Robin, Yeah, and
Robin's friend Wendy, and we had a really good time.
Speaker 2: So you've seen them.
Speaker 1: Remember that it was the noise that it was like
a good volume. Yeah, it was still really loud, but
it wasn't like aggressively loud where you feel.
Speaker 2: It, feel it in your chest. Yeah yeah, yeah, violated right, No,
it was good.
Speaker 1: So we all went to dinner first. It was just
such a fun like everybody was in the mood for it.
We all dressed up. Oh fun. I wore like seventies
bell bottom jeans. How cute. By the way, I couldn't
fit into for the longest time until my GLP and
now I've back into the car jeans. It was in
my closet and I was like, oh my god, I'm
going to be back in these jeans.
Speaker 2: Wows.
Speaker 1: And I bought off Amazon like a sparkly discoy top,
Oh my god, oh cute. And then I went to
Sadie and I was like, Sadie, I need like a
seventies coat. Yeah, And she has this Penny Lane coat
that I was going to wear, but she was like, well,
it might be a little stinky because it needs to
be washed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I went in her closet to try it on,
and I was like, what's this little fur coat thing
you have? It? Was like a kind of a short
for fake fur coat. Yeah, and she was like, oh,
I got that as a Christmas present from like a
friend of mine. Oh my god. You know who gave
it to her is Kyle lellysle Crocodile's mom.
Speaker 2: Ah cute, got us all like gifts.
Speaker 1: That's still Sadie, this fur coat for coat. And so
I was like, an, it's not one hundred per Sadie style.
I was like, it's my style. I could picture it.
It was super seventies looking, yeah, little glam coat. So
she was like, wear it, you know. So anyway, I
wore that. Oh cute already have seventies glasses. Everybody dressed
up and they fucking jammed out. They played every I know,
every song.
Speaker 2: I love it, I love.
Speaker 1: The bee Gees, I know every song. Was like they
did tragedy, but they did old ones that a lot
of people probably don't know, but like deep cuts. I
started a joke that started the whole world laughing, kind
of Massachusetts, to Love Somebody, to Love Somebody, Yeah anyway,
Oh my god, but all the disco songs you should
be dancing? Yeah? Did they were people dance? Oh my god?
People were going crazy.
Speaker 2: I haven't been there since so long. The Canyon Club,
it's a great place.
Speaker 1: You know, there's always at some of these venues, regulars
that are like there was this lady who was wearing
she had to have been seventy, yeah, but she was
she imagine like a senior the senior version of Gwen Stefani,
like a high blonde ponytail. Yeah, but like but then
she was wearing sort of like diaphanous like scarves, and yeah,
she was wearing glittery hot pants. She had a crazy body.
Speaker 2: Could have been my mom, so.
Speaker 1: Imagine Helen par Ice and like sparkly hot pants and
half like a little half top. Oh yeah, totally see
her bra. And she's dancing doing dance moves like almost
like a belly dancer, but discoy belly dance. And then
at one point and she's working the whole room and
it's a big place, like, oh, we got senior Gwen
Stefani's on side right now, and she's going almost like
she's the entertainment, like tons of makeup. And then she
came through with like a bubble, like blowing bubble really yeah,
but not blowing you know, the kind that are automatic.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you just got it comes out.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, but listen all good vibes. Loved it. It
was super fun. Just that's so just from start to finish.
You know why we didn't get there for any We
didn't know bullshit opening bands? Yes, when in eight so
you can go to the Canyon Club, you can buy
dinner and get you have to get there at seven, right,
but the headliner doesn't go on till nine. Okay, like
fuck all that, let's go eat at the Mexican restaurant
next door. Our reservation was for seven. Perfect out there
till like eight forty five. Oh yeah, next walked in
there between you know, sit down. By the time we
sat down and got our seats and like we're hanging
out and relaxed for a minute, boom came out. Awesome
from start to finish.
Speaker 2: Wow, how long did they play?
Speaker 1: Only like less than an hour and a half. Yeah,
that's perfect. It was perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah movie running time right, perfect running time.
Speaker 1: Never got bored. Oh I bet it was over you.
I didn't feel cheated, but it wasn't like it was like,
oh that was a perfect amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: I never started like checking my watch, like how many
more hits?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really. I remember when I took Sunny to see
the led Zeppelin band in Hollywood at the Roxy, like
a year or two ago with his friend, and they
didn't go on intol like eleven. Yeah, you know, and
I know these kids are teenagers. They're fine during the summer,
but like I'm taking them and I'm excited to see them.
But like then there's these opening acts and it's like
they were interested in watching the opening acts, but I wasn't.
I'm like on my phone. Then it starts to get
crowded and packed, and now you got to like move
upstairs because it's standing room only. And then they come
on at like eleven and they play for like two hours.
Now you're stuck in Sunset Strip traffic to get home. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See that's not fun. It's not. But this was no
led Zeppelin. This was the bee Gees. This was old
people and their parents, right, you know we were the
old people. But yeah, we were the youngest ones there. Yeah,
and then it was older people. It was like perfection, right,
perfect people tired. Yeah, like many people that did not
bought seats like we did and never stood up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of people in the back that were that
were dancing and it's like couples dancing and what a
great night in the hustle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really fun and it made me feel
like I ought.
Speaker 1: To do like more.
Speaker 2: It makes me want to go do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've gotten into like a kind of a not
like not a grind, but like a rut. Right me too, Yeah,
We're like I just don't I'm not spontaneous anymore. I know,
Like I saw the Food Fighters played in La the
other night. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, and I was
watching clips of it and I was like damn. And
then I started texting my friends and then like Dawn
Queen of Vegas, she's like, well, we should go see them.
They're playing in Vegas not till September, by the way.
Oh but so now like me and my old school
friends are gonna go see I think the Food Fighters
in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Well that'll be fun. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But there's I like like cover bands, you know, especially
I think in the Valley when they play in the Valley,
Like you went to Canyon Club, that's like they come
on at the regular time, nine o'clock, perfect, you know,
not stay until midnight twelve one o'clock. In the morning.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. The valley is so great because it's like
being on an endless cruise. Yeah, like everything's meant for
kind of although well like maybe even like a Disney cruise, right,
because there's lots of kids in our neighborhood and that's fine.
But yeah, you're not gonna go start going out at
eleven o'clock at night, No, I know, maybe closes down right.
Well then except for obviously in and out yeah, oh yeah,
and stopping in and out. Last week for Sunny it
was his last night. On my way home from here,
He's like, can you give me in and out because
they don't have that Oregon. I was like, okay, you know,
sat there for like an hour and a half. It's endless.
Speaker 2: I know the track, I mean, just the line for
in and out no matter what time and day. No,
And it's not that great. We've talked about it in a
million times. I don't like hamburgers from fast food. Same,
I'm not into it. Who cares? Same, I don't get it,
I'll never get it. And their fries aren't that great.
Speaker 1: I don't know, terrible, Yeah, worst fries any beast food places.
Speaker 2: I agree, like if you're gonna get fries. Get the
McDonald fries. Hell, yes, the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yes, McDonald's uses some weird pink chemical that
we all heard about like years ago. But it makes
it taste. It's good. Look into that in and out. Yeah,
what that pink slime is by you some Okay, So
that was really fun. So then I wanted to ask you. Okay,
so we have two. I wanted to ask you, but
but then you already told me no. If you if
you've watched The Closer, yeah, no. So it's with Kira
Sedgwick and she plays this like it's you. I think
you would like it because it takes it all takes
place in La.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Most of these shows don't, No, I know. So this
is like there's crimes happening, like in the valley. It's
Echo Park street signs. You're like, oh, everything else is
usually like you know, Chicago, Texas, somewhere. Yeah right, yeah,
this is like yeah, it's just la. Okay, So I
like that off with like a porn star or like
a film producer, but you know, or I don't know,
regular crime right. But the thing is that Sedgewick plays
this like she's she's from Georgia, so she's always like
thank you, thank you very much. And she's there's like
some weird thing where she says she doesn't want to
eat sugar, but she's like a bit of a sugar addict.
So that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But so there's a crime that happens, and then here
a Sedgewick is really good like interrogator. She's super skry
and she always knows like she she's the best at
like figuring out when people are lying. Oh so super formulaic. Okay,
I'm in, which can feel like the best kind of
comfort food.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I never watched this back in the day. I
think that I want to say, this is like fifteen
years old. Yeah, I've seen it Netflix. Oh okay, that's
why you've been seeing it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: They offer it to you like this is a brand
new show. Yeah, they're like, have you heard of The Closer?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, hey have you heard of Medium with Patricia Arcata?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, it does bring a bell yeah exactly. Okay,
so it's like that, But I was like, you know what,
what's all this? What's all this talk about The Closer?
Speaker 1: Right? Let me check it out. And I watched it,
and then I watched like six more. But it is
so formulaic that when you watch it, you're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't. I'm like, no, I'm out. No. There's
certain TV shows that are like that, you know, these
procedural dramas. Yeah, and they're like they feel too networking
for me. I don't like that. Like there's some shows
that end up on Hulu. There was one called Paradise
I think, and everybody loved it, but I watched it
and I was like, it's too like ABC or NBC
to me, Like, I'm I can't explain it. It's just
too produced, right. I try to even watch The Pit
and like their dialogue was so like back and forth,
back and like too polished. You know. I know people
love it, but like I only gave it one episode
and I was like, eh, it seems like it would
have been on CBS or something back in the day.
Speaker 1: Well remember my whole thing with the Pit, which I
told you last year when it was on Yeah, I
mean they just stole it from ER and they literally
did steal it from Er and there is a lawsuit,
right I remember, Kin, it makes me mad when I
watch it. Yeah, and Er was just better. But I
told you one of the stories they did on the
pit was because of the pit. I started going back
and I watched Er from season one and I found
a freakin episode it was completely ripped off the pit,
ripped off of like an early season of Er. Really
it was the same fucking storyline almost exactly. I couldn't
believe it.
Speaker 2: So it's like, so they're getting sued. Do we know
what happened? Is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Because so they they pitched doing an
ER reboot to Michael Crichton's estate. Michael Crichton created R
back the day, so they pitched it as a state
and I guess they were arguing about it, or they
didn't want to do it so or making it difficult
or wanting too much money, so whoever. The other people
were were like, Okay, well then we'll just do a
different show. It's still an ER reboot, but we'll make
it different enough, but we'll still use Noah Wiley. Like basically,
they just did the same thing exactly. They're like, well,
instead of it being a hospital show, it's going to
be a hospital show, but it's going to be every
hour the whole season will just be hour by hour
in an emergency room. Like that's not really different enough.
Same storylines, same actor, very same storylines. Yeah, same actor,
same vibe, Like I guess you can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes. People love the pit though, so the closure.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, yeah, I was just you
feel like you're kind of wasting time. Yeah, but I
seem to be drawn to it. Like at the end
of the night, I'm like, oh, put on an episode
or before I sleep. Yeah, but I don't feel a
sense of like, oh I did something like I watched
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I want to know how you even.
Speaker 2: I was at home the other night and I was like,
I want to watch something really like, I like a
good documentary, and so I was on I have Paramount Plus,
and I because I've gone through all the Netflix ones
and all the Amazon so then I went to like,
let me see what they have, and then I found
out where it was. It's not just on Paramount Plus,
it's also on Amazon. And it was called Buryed. Now
it used to be on Showtime because I've seen the
logo or the picture of it but before, but I
don't know why I never looked into it. So I
started watching it and it's four part episode. And first
of all, the woman that okay, what it is is
this woman from Kenoka Park. She grew up in this
little idyllic town in like up by San Francisco or
kind of in the Bay Area. And in the sixties,
she had a couple siblings. She had a couple She
had a couple sisters. She was like a middle child,
and she also had a brother. And like the first
episode is about her going to court because she remembered
that she had a buried memory that of the memory
of seeing her father kill her best friend when she
was like six or seven years old, and there was
eight was it like eight? And so she had a daughter.
Now later in now in the eighties. She has a family,
she's married, living in Knoga Park. She has a daughter.
She looked down at the gaze of her daughter's eyes,
and it triggered a memory because her daughter looked like
a lot like her best friend. And they do show
a picture of her daughter next to her best friend,
and they do look really a lot alike. And she
had this memory of one day they were in her
family's van and saw her friend, her best friend, walking
down the street and said, can my friend come with us?
And dad said sure. They got in the van and
they drove to like a reservoir area out in the woods,
and she remembered that her dad raped her best friend
and then killed her with a rock, like smashed her
head and killed her, and the girl went missing, and
you know, and then but the father said to her,
we're never going to talk about this again because they
don't have to kill you. But then she talks about
how she grew up and she loved her dad. After dad, Yeah,
so like the first episode, Yeah.
Speaker 1: She loves school with him all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, And as it later in an adult you know,
she went and visited him when he had his girlfriend,
Like she was very close with her dad. They show
pictures of them, but now she has this memory and
her husband tells her, like, you got to tell the police,
and they call the police and they tell the police,
and then these investigators get on it and they go
and arrest dad, right, and then she has to and
then they go to he's pleading not guilty. And the
first episode is her sitting at y on trial, you know,
up there on the stand, testifying against her father. Yes,
and then that's yeah, then it goes.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much we want to spoil,
but if you've if you've seen it.
Speaker 1: Well basically what you're going to find out in a jen.
Speaker 2: There are going to be I think some spoiler alerts here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler alerts in a But it's really find out
that she actually did even though she seemed like she
was close to her dad. Her dad is like a
child monster, right, and that's for sure proven, yes, and
he we don't know if he did this murder. We're
going to we're going to watch this whole this whole
trial unfold, but we do find out that this guy
is a really not a he's a horrible, horrible, horrible guy. Yeah,
it was a horrible dad, should be in jail.
Speaker 2: And like her siblings hate that, you know, she had
an older sister that hated him, wanted him gone.
Speaker 1: But a lot of this story centers around repressed memory, yeah,
and whether that's a real thing, whether you can block
something out completely and then it can come to you
and you didn't remember it at all, and then suddenly
you can remember it right. And then they have experts
on both sides arguing about this, and there're some of
those experts are very annoying, right, like kind of sarcastic
and like, oh okay.
Speaker 2: Like it's like that woman, yeah, yeah, that yes.
Speaker 1: And the guys George hit the murderer possible, the alleged
murderers lawyer is just a shithead.
Speaker 2: Oh that guy yes, glasses.
Speaker 1: Which for no fucking reason, his whole interview is like
out on a weird like it's on a bench in
the middle of nature, like nature, the kind of blurred
but you'd have a zoom background a little bit like blurred.
Speaker 2: Right, what is wearing suit? And like kind of in
his glasses.
Speaker 1: It's like, why aren't you just in a studio?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why, I know, did you happen to see it find
him at a camping trip.
Speaker 2: It's so weird, I know. Yes, his defense attorney was
interviewed a lot throughout the whole thing, a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only in this one spot in nature.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just sitting out there in the middle of
like a park somewhere. Yes, Nate, the wind blowing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was so oddly made.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then you find out later, and I just thought you
and I were probably both having a little laugh about this. Yeah,
that Shelley. Eventually a movie was made.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, with Shelley from uh from Cheers, not Shelley
Devall Shelley from Cheers. Yeah, yes that's her name, not
yeah Shelley. Yeah, yes, she played she was. Yeah, she
was in Cheers. Shelley.
Speaker 1: Oh god, every of everybody's Cheers.
Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, she played her in a Lifetime movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, this is so funny that we
can't remember it. Okay, Showrunners direct starring Shelley.
Speaker 2: Long there you go, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she played like you know, Rea Pearlman.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yes, she played the daughter, yes, with the repressed,
with the repressed memory press memories. Yeah, in the Lifetime movie.
And the real girl in real life is pretty intense,
like when she's talking, very intense. And they interviewed, like
the producer of the movie, and she said that the
real woman did come on the set a couple of
times and she was like, yeah, she's real intense, Like
she needs to lighten up. I found funny.
Speaker 1: One thing I did want that is this is a
spoiler because this happens later on, But I do feel
like this would be the thing that we need to
talk about. Apparently, the girl, everything she's been through, it's horrible,
the whole all the all the kids in the family.
I'm not making light of this, yeah, but it kind
of really hurt the family that her coming forward and
telling this story, and according to all the other ones,
she became like really difficult and pretty right, pretty into the.
Speaker 2: Fact that she was like, yeah, she was liking the
attention important, yes, because she was on Oprah, she was
on Larry King. She was getting all this attention, and
her siblings were like, give me a fucking break, you know. Oh.
And then one of the things is they in court
they were fighting against was you know, can you you
can't if you had this suppressed memory, did you go
to a hypnotist And if you did then your testimony
has got to be thrown out, right, right, And she
lied on she said she didn't go, And apparently she
lied on the stand because she did go, because her
sister at the end ratted her out and said she lied.
And the family it was the tragic story. All the
siblings like hate each other and like the whole family
fell apart. But and the dad was just and then
the mom got involved in the mom's being interviewed.
Speaker 1: Well the mom, oh my god, okay again spoiler skipped
forward like a minute or two. But one of the
things about this is that you don't actually know like
it does. At one point, they really make it seem
like everybody's making up this story because they just all
want the dad to be in jail, right, and you're
not sure, but the mom seemed to be like behind it.
And then later the mom fucking turns on her durns like, nah,
she's a liar.
Speaker 2: Right, You're like, what should up what I've seen at
this guy?
Speaker 1: I know this monster to most all your children, And
you're like, I don't believe her, right, what the hell?
Speaker 2: It just the whole thing was just like wow, And
then like the main the daughter, the main daughter starts saying, well,
I now have memories because she's liking the attention. I
guess now they have memories of about other crimes he
could have committed. Yes, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then it's a it has a little it shares a
little bit of DNA with abducted and plain sight.
Speaker 2: It does, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. It's it's truck. They're both tried.
Speaker 2: It is a tragic yeahhood sexual. We're not making light
of it, No we're not. But there's just it almost
just gets a little bit campy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So maybe the way it's shot, you're just like, yeah,
so seventies right, eighties feeling yes, Yeah, and but you
don't I mean, what do you think.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I think he was a monster.
I think he did do it.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about the other crimes. But
for her best trend, he's just it just he's first
of all, he had a lot of oh my god,
I mean like beast reality and stuff like that, and
like incest and stuff. You know, they found.
Speaker 1: He's he's a horrible guy put to death.
Speaker 2: So it makes sense where they lived was a safe
neighborhood and like, keep you know it?
Speaker 1: Just h Do you think this girl witnessed the crime?
Speaker 2: I think I think so, and I think maybe she
might have.
Speaker 1: I don't think she did.
Speaker 2: You don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think she did. This is my Yeah, what
do you think? Fast forward? I don't think she did.
But I do think that they all actually did suspect
him because I think there were some signs that he
did something and probably said some things, and I think
that sparked off. I think that think she remembers it
actually happening. But I think do you think he did it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But you so you don't think she remembers it.
I don't think she was there. I don't think she
saw it. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I think she's putting together things about he is right,
and things about how she imagined the crime would have happened, right,
and then things she read about knows that.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, yeah, is that she had. At first,
you're like, oh, she's got all these evidence, like from
the crime scene that you don't think she knows about.
But then you find out it was all over the news, right.
Speaker 1: But then they're like, but she wouldn't have been able
to read the news at eight years old. Well, but
then when she it wasn't. She didn't come up with
the memory until she was much older, exactly, she had kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's so interesting though.
Speaker 2: It was interesting the whole time. Yeah, right, I mean
it was four parts, but it was like each episode
was really like yeah, yeah, and you think you're thinking
one way, you think it's going to go one way,
and then it goes another way, and then you're like
what the fuck, and then at the end you're just
like wow, like the poor family.
Speaker 1: It definitely zigs and zags. Yes, very much worth watching. Yeah.
I was really happy when you told me about it
and you said my add not even kicking, Like I
was into it from the beginning. Yeah, okay, yes.
Speaker 2: Because at first I was like, oh, is this gonna
be a lot of mumbo jumbo talk about like memory
just you know, right, and then no, it wasn't. Now
it was I mean, they did talk about it, but
it was really good. It was really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I never really got two in the weeds.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't, and they did. That's what I was
worried about.
Speaker 1: Switched it up on you enough that you're like.
Speaker 2: Wait what, Yes, yeah, yeah I was that's what I
was worried about, that I was going to go too
much into the weeds.
Speaker 1: And then put it this way, this girl is definitely
an unreliable narrator, right, which makes it fun?
Speaker 2: Yes, it does make it fun.
Speaker 1: Do I believe her? But wait right now, I kind
of believe her again? But wait, yeah, but what about
but what about this? But why are all her sisters
like thinking she's shit? Yes?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, yeah, good, it's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else you've watched.
Speaker 2: I've been watching, Well, I've been watching The Traders.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Should I start from the beginning?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should. It's pretty good. And Lisa Renna, Yeah,
I don't want to spoil it, Okay, Yeah, you gotta
watch it. It's a it's a pretty good cast. There's
a lot of good, fun, interesting, crazy people.
Speaker 1: So you know from the beginning who the Traders.
Speaker 2: Are in the first episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, okay, and it's it's Arena.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know. Do you know that?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, because I think my kids told me. Okay,
but you that's the conceit is that you know, yes,
and then you see how it plays.
Speaker 2: Yes, but this season they did in the first episode,
they did the they revealed who the tin Traders were,
but then they also had a secret trader in the
cast that they did not tell who they were, and
then they got revealed in a couple episodes later. Okay,
so that that was a little different twist.
Speaker 1: Was it fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. It's really fun. I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we let me ask you this, what's up
for Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: I mean, I just got a text from my friend
Glenn that he's inviting us all to his house. Oh yeah,
what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you asked. I feel like I'm she
bless you. So this is like, oh my god, this
almost could have been a Patreon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it because I'm brave and I
don't care. But so last year, my so, my sister
in law and my brother oftentimes have a Super Bowl party.
Did I tell you about this last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So then my but my sister in law is really, really,
really really into the Chiefs, right, So do you remember
that last year they were like, we're not having a
Super Bowl party because we it would be too hard
for us if people don't want aren't rooting for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Right, Like they wanted to focus on the game, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then my sister in law was like, I don't
want to have to be like getting up and down
and like serving people, like I just want to be
able to watch the game. Yeah, which all right, I mean, yeah, look,
I would make fun of her to her face. She
has not been a Chiefs fan from We've talked about this, right,
there's no real connect whatever. Whatever, she's decided she's a
big Chiefs fan, and she's made her son a big
Chiefs fan. And I think my brother could kind of
care less but like, yeah, yes, to respect wife and
her wishes. So then they were like, so, yeah, we
don't think we're going to have a super Bowl party.
Speaker 2: That was last year.
Speaker 1: I was last year. So I was getting a little
bit of the feeling of like maybe they just don't
want to us at the super Bowl party.
Speaker 2: But like okay.
Speaker 1: So then another friend of mine, one of my jew
Mom group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently always has a super Bowl party.
Speaker 1: But heretofore had not invited me. I don't know why.
Maybe she had one time and I didn't go, so
she didn't again, but she invited happened to invite me
last year, and I was like, well that is meant
to be because now we're not going to my sister
in laws. So we said yes. Then she was like, well,
we're still going to have people over, but we just
want to keep it really low key and like we
need to put and I was like, I don't need
a bunch of rules. Yeah, my super Bowl. I didn't
give a fuck about the Chiefs at all. So like
you watched the super Bowl and be intense about it,
and I I'll go to this party. And then we
had a really good time. So this year there's been
no mention, even though there's no Chiefs playing, there's been
no mention of a sister in law having the super
Bowl party. So I'm just going to make plans to
go to.
Speaker 2: You should do that, yeah, my friends, Although isn't it
kind of when is it? Is it? When is it?
It's a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I pray the Rams. I pray
for the Rams. Go Rams, pray for the Rams.
Speaker 2: Come on Rams.
Speaker 1: It was hard. This last game was hard because John's
team is the Bears.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah he was born in Illinois and yeah
outside of Chicago. Yeah, Evanston, Yeah, yeah, that sucks. I
know I got my you know, nephews in Chicago rooting
for the Bears.
Speaker 1: Right, But listen, they came closer than they've come in many,
many years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, good for them and for them. Yeah,
and the Rams, like, that's our team. That's our team, la,
Come on, Rams, don't dissipate Point Sunny again this year.
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