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<v Speaker 1>Greenish Sighty Tanks and everyone at Rich Wilson Wilson wilk

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<v Speaker 1>into fantasy baseball, Like Timmy, I've forgotten my name.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, my name is Tim McCleod. I'm warning my

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<v Speaker 2>name tagg. We should be okay for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness. Yeah, welcome everybody. It's uh January eleventh, or

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<v Speaker 1>about three o'clock in the afternoon, and we're here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk baseball. To mean, lots of we talked. It was

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday we come on the air. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy week in the world, and this one took the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>This was even a crazier week. And it's just put

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<v Speaker 1>that aside for an hour and a half and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about baseball, shall we.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds like a good baseball This isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>football podcast. Oh sorry, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I have I have the Buffalo Bills and the

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars game on in the background, so uh okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know who plays on any of those does

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I don't even know who I know any

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<v Speaker 1>of the players, Timmy none.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I I the last time I actually was

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<v Speaker 2>involved in football was back in the nineties, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think any of the players that I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at back then are probably still in the game, except

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the Steelers quarterback. I don't know if he's still

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<v Speaker 2>playing or not, but he'd probably be close to forty

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<v Speaker 2>five if he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I know you're talking about but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this, this might say a lot about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know the Kelsey guy on that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few guys I know on the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs because of Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's not good theah So yeah, so'r.

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<v Speaker 1>How's your week been, how's any drafts, any reflections on?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you've been ranking. We're doing shortstop today.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's your thought. We're thirty days away from

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<v Speaker 1>actually players reporting to spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very it was. It was a good week

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<v Speaker 2>from a league league point of view, simply because I

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<v Speaker 2>got my invite for TOUTE and my invite for Labor

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks like we have some dates set and

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<v Speaker 2>my XFL draft date it is set. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good week. It's it's always it's always nice to get

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<v Speaker 2>that confirmation that that that letter in the mail it says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd like to have you back for another year, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard, Well, we're happy for you. But Tim may I

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to step up, my friend, time to step up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You won the league a few years ago and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been buckus since.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I keep drafting hurt players, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>for the life of me. Yeah, I can't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really can't. It's it's amazing, I would have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than possibly spending a lot of time with mock

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<v Speaker 2>Draft Central and practicing the you know, the whole mock thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think my my game has lessened or my

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<v Speaker 2>my skill set whatever. But when you're playing against top competition,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to have some breaks in there. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I know what I'm whining, and you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody gets to deal with injuries. But man, I have

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<v Speaker 2>been smoked for some serious injury problems the past four

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<v Speaker 2>or five years, and hey, it's just part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, No, maybe it's going to be regressive regression back

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<v Speaker 1>to the meme this year, so maybe you'll have some

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<v Speaker 1>some luck and health. I'm in the middle of my

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<v Speaker 1>draft and hold league, Tim and go for it. Terrible terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to tell you why. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you and I spoke last week, it was just about

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend two a little less than a weekend, we

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<v Speaker 1>were uh in round fifteen. Well, I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>made my pick in the twenty third round. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have slowed to a crawl round the day. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>down to around There was one day, Timmy, I did

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<v Speaker 1>not make a pick at all. And I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>whining because I love this format, but this is it's

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<v Speaker 1>been painful because, yeah, you go so many hours and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picking in the middle. I can't imagine that people

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<v Speaker 1>picking on the end. I mean, you're you're full day,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes two days making a pick. Maybe it's just me, Timmy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can make fun of me. I can't keep engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it. I understand that. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been a big proponent of doing drafts on the clock. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think with a sixty second or

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<v Speaker 2>ninety second clock. I think that's part of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get why in fifty round draft and holds

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<v Speaker 2>in dynasty formats that doesn't work. But you're right it

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<v Speaker 2>it just sucks the life out of you. Hey, he

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned guy at the corner not drafting for two days.

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<v Speaker 2>He makes his two picks. He makes his two picks

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<v Speaker 2>in three minutes, and then he sits for two days.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been tough. And the thing is, I love my team,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. But I'm just I'm not having any fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever have you ever have you ever thought

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<v Speaker 2>of going to I know they have drafts with one

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<v Speaker 2>hour and two hour clocks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm going. I'm doing. I'm going to the

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<v Speaker 1>two hour next year. I made that decision when I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this week, it's like, wow, this is painful.

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<v Speaker 1>It will switch to two hours here I think at

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<v Speaker 1>round thirty, so it'll it'll pick up here at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not Usually there's always one one owner,

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<v Speaker 1>one team, my manager that's slow. This one is like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four guys that I mean. It's just painful, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, they're you're looking there, they're down in

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, below an hour, and then they always

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<v Speaker 1>make their pick. I haven't seen anybody time out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just they're just slow. I can't and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't complain because this is the format. They have every

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<v Speaker 1>right to take as much time as they want. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just slow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what are people playing the We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to use the full clock to see if we

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<v Speaker 2>end up with a closer in the twenty second round

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<v Speaker 2>or thirty second you know what I mean, is that

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<v Speaker 2>game being played, because that's that's one of my biggest

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<v Speaker 2>pet peeves with a slow clock, is people dragging you

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<v Speaker 2>or on purpose hoping to find somebody who signs. That

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<v Speaker 2>creates a situation where you can pick somebody up later

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<v Speaker 2>on that proves to have real value and usually closers

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<v Speaker 2>is I mean, it might.

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<v Speaker 1>Be, but I mean it appears. So we started during

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday and people see a lot of people seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be off. I think people are working. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we this was the first full week of work and

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<v Speaker 1>things picked up again on the things picked up again

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekend. Uh, it's just during the week that

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<v Speaker 1>during the the business hours of the day where people

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<v Speaker 1>were clearly not around and uh maybe maybe checking things

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<v Speaker 1>on their breaks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the more people should be retired, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got nothing to do, I got my

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<v Speaker 1>computer open, I'm waiting for that. You're on the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're at least on on deck, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not coming. But let me tell you about my back

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<v Speaker 1>half of the draft. Here. Let me just again I picked.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me just go through my first fifteen again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just read the names and then I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I've done since there. Ellie d La Cruz Won,

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<v Speaker 1>Edwin Diaz, Wyatt, Langfort, Matt Olsen, Freddy Peralta, Dylan Ceze,

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<v Speaker 1>Randio a Rose Arena, Dennis Antana, Jackson Holliday, my buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>your buddy, Bob King's high buddy, Jacob Marcy, Shane boz

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Tatsuya Amaya is going to be the MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I'm hitting the ten out of ten button,

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<v Speaker 2>by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Ranger Suarez, my buddy, j t Romolto, I got

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<v Speaker 1>my first catcher, and then Spencer Torquasen I took him

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<v Speaker 1>with my fifteenth pick. I didn't I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that or not. So I cheap cheap power.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I then I went with another cheap power. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you might criticize me this. Why with Mike Trout.

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<v Speaker 2>Un if he plays three months, he's going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>twenty home runs. Yeah, just make sure you got backup

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and you're okay, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think. And then I expect huge kudos

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<v Speaker 1>with this next victim, Huge kudos Cosumo Okamoto with the sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's on MC, this one's on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need a break for five minutes. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to get the oxygen TANKO.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, I got my okamotives. So I am. I am

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<v Speaker 1>all in on the Tim McCloud strategy. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just won the league. Okay, it's it's over, it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at what was left, and you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>Vargas was there, Connor Norby, Ernie Clement alec Baum, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, all right, I think I'd rather have the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's got the upside. McLeod talks about him and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, plus, it gives me another chance to criticize

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<v Speaker 1>you throughout the season. So I so I took him.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually feel pretty good about him, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should. I think you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>happy with that. When compared to the options that were

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<v Speaker 2>available outside of him, How much risk are you taking?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're looking at the picks that you listed,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at twenty home home run guys basically for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, okay, with some batting average pressures on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them. If Okamoto only has fifteen home runs,

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<v Speaker 2>how much have you really lost? Yeah, the risk is

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<v Speaker 2>negligible at that stage, I think, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who I was going to take as my

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<v Speaker 1>backup third basement. I've already selected him in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fifth round, and that was the Yankee kid. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got Ryan McMahon coming in with the twenty fifth So

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<v Speaker 1>of okamotave doesn't work out, I've got Ryan McMahon there

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<v Speaker 1>as I've covered, right, Yes, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm disappointed in the lack of confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I am the owner of the zero point zero button.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that my next three picks are my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>picks in the entire draft so far. Eighteenth pick I

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<v Speaker 1>went with JJ Weatherholt. I think he's gonna play four.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to get the four to five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bats. I think he starts the season in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be the best player there. He could

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<v Speaker 1>play second, he could play third. I'm not exactly sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to play in But then I went with

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Cole. I mean Garrett Cole in the nineteenth round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we see him at least in the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. I kind of like it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went around twenty Carson Binge. I mean the at

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<v Speaker 1>some point you have to believe the team, and the

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<v Speaker 1>team keeps saying they're going he's gonna get every shot

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<v Speaker 1>to be the outfielder. And it does not look like

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets, at least so far. I have hired another outfielder.

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<v Speaker 1>So I liked it. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's great. Yeah, I think logically it works. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>You said weather holding the eighteenth round.

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<v Speaker 1>Weather hold in the eighteenth, benj in the twentieth.

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<v Speaker 1>The likelihood of I could be wrong. I mean, Connor

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<v Speaker 2>So I totally agree. Yeah, I have both of them

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<v Speaker 2>just holding him back hoping to get a lowball extension

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<v Speaker 1>It might not. The other thought on JJ Weatherhall. He's

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<v Speaker 1>reserved guys. Uh, I just at some additional speed, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to Victor Scott the second and then then it

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<v Speaker 1>And I really wanted Victor Vodnick, but I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the safer pick is to go with will Vest and

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<v Speaker 1>he's there, but he's old and will Vest is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn good picture, so I went there. I went

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Woods Richardson h as another picture, and the data

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<v Speaker 1>looks pretty good on that. He just missed my pitching targets.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just in the next stripe. And then twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four I went with Carson Kelly as my second catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of my targets, and I filled that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it looks really solid.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>second base third basement ed Guardo de Leon, obviously Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>and de Leon being minor league players. I wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>long notes for our Patreon members. I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly interesting trade. I want your views, and what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of Cabrera going to the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you look at the Cubs, okay, and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the rotation. I had somebody ask me, does

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<v Speaker 2>this mean that the Cubs are sort of souring a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit on Justin Steele and a return date? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no, I don't think it has anything to

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<v Speaker 2>do with that, because I don't think they're anticipating him

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<v Speaker 2>back towards the second half of the season. Okay, maybe me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that comes into play. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the rotation, they got Matthew Boyd who

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<v Speaker 2>great year, but he's far from a picture of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>uh a picture of hell. Right, Jamison, Jamison Taion's up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and again there's been health he's using even has had

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<v Speaker 2>of pictures that hasn't had per se problems is Kate Orton, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Edward four or five games in the major leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's not a not a lengthy resume, but

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<v Speaker 2>even Edward Cabrera is far from being a picture of hell,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, picture of health. It's uh so. I I

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<v Speaker 2>I like to move from the Cubs point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they got a they got a solid picture.

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<v Speaker 2>The return of the Mighty Casey has struck out, is

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be heard. There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna play there, right, He's gonna play. I I

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<v Speaker 2>I figure he's gonna play. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I liked a lot about the deal, A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people aren't. They're not really mentioning, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>they should be, is don't the Marlins have this young

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<v Speaker 2>kid snelling? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that definitely opens up a path for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that could be you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>one less starting pitcher means one step closer to being

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, after Sandy, I'll turn your Perez. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Withers, Max Meyer and Brax and Garrett. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>Think, I think has a chance to You're Perez when

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<v Speaker 2>Miami strong after that three, four and five. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to hold off Snelling. So for me, yeah, Casey, Casey,

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<v Speaker 2>and that all might work out. But what got me

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<v Speaker 2>the most excited was it opens up a path for

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<v Speaker 2>Robbie Snelling, who I have a fairly big investment in

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<v Speaker 2>already this year. So I was happy. I was happy

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<v Speaker 1>I did not get Snelling in this draft. I was

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<v Speaker 1>anyone a little earlier than I liked. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're under value in your Perez. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think Alcantara and Perez are a solid one too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a three.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, Oh, I thought I thought you put Perez

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, No, No, Perez is at number one. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be a number one if they move Elegan. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Perez is solid as a rock. It's three, four and five.

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<v Speaker 2>I think won't hold back Robbie Snelling when they did

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<v Speaker 2>hear when he's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Thomas White's not that far away either,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins can develop pitching, and I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to continue. Ryan Weathers, the data still

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<v Speaker 1>looks good on him. He can't and stay healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Cubs. I mean, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I think the Dodgers have showed the baseball world

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a great grad one through six and you

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<v Speaker 2>got you got nobody backing that up, you ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>win your league. And unless you get very, very lucky,

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<v Speaker 2>because the odds of a six man fantasy rotation seeing

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<v Speaker 2>healthy all year are both the same odds as winning

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<v Speaker 2>power Ball back to back, it ain't gonna happen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta have depth.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to Owen Casey don't have the I

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go to outfield and we'll talk about where

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<v Speaker 1>he is going again. It's probably moving up, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>just just kind of in your first bench spot. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob marsh he says, hold my beer, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he take a look at that Marlin. That Marlins

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, the big thing will be and I think

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<v Speaker 2>with the moves they've made holding on Together's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that has now shifted to more like

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline, simply because the Marlins have upgraded a

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<v Speaker 2>come trade deadline within striking distance of a playoff spot,

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<v Speaker 2>that changes That changes things a little bit in the

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<v Speaker 1>But don't you think also, our contra was not very

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<v Speaker 2>what you see is a five thirty six year a

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds. But if you look at what he did

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<v Speaker 2>a really good last six to seven starts. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm real bullish on him picking up from where

418
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<v Speaker 2>he left off at the end of last year. I

419
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<v Speaker 2>think he's underbelliared right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the last two months of the season is a

421
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<v Speaker 1>three seventy earra. And I think you started with that

422
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<v Speaker 1>Boston game right from that.

423
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<v Speaker 2>Boston Yeah, I started the game before the Boston game.

424
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<v Speaker 1>The Boston game. Again, we're picking the starting points and

425
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<v Speaker 1>that's always dangerous. A to sixty eight earra in the

426
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<v Speaker 1>last eight starts, you know. Yeah, but he did have

427
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of tough outings prior to that, But to me,

428
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>he did he pitched much better at the end of

429
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<v Speaker 1>the season. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I like to see is in those last

431
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<v Speaker 2>eight starts, he struck out nine once, eight twice and

432
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<v Speaker 2>seven toys.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, so he's struck eight point seven per nine.

434
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<v Speaker 1>He walked one point seven for nine. That's more like

435
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Sande al Contras opposed to the seven point three strikeouts

436
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<v Speaker 1>for nine throughout the whole season.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't know I I'm very optimistic there.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm maybe I'm too maybe I'm overly optimistic, but

439
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.599
<v Speaker 2>he was coming off Tommy John and not everybody heals

440
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<v Speaker 2>at the same pace. So I'm I'm looking at the

441
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<v Speaker 2>end of the season and hoping we see some of

442
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<v Speaker 2>those numbers reflected in his twenty twenty six.

443
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<v Speaker 1>I think the game. I think that's fair. He's not

444
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<v Speaker 1>really being discounted all that much though in drafts.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I haven't looked recently to see where he's going.

446
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<v Speaker 1>But let's take a look, shall we. I got him,

447
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<v Speaker 1>I got him up here, go to pitching and typing

448
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<v Speaker 1>Sand not Dandy, Sandy Sand. Oh no, he's gone sixty

449
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>six pitcher off the board. So I backed that up

450
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<v Speaker 1>twelve or so and that's uh, you know, that's fifty four.

451
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so he's gone as your fourth starter. Yeah,

452
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<v Speaker 1>that's not so bad.

453
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<v Speaker 2>I'll be happy with him as my number two starter. Wow.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, then you should be good.

455
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<v Speaker 2>I think I my target list for pitching I've got

456
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<v Speaker 2>in capital block letters scrolled on one page. Sandy, that's

457
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<v Speaker 2>funny to mean.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the second deal that the Cubs made

459
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>this week. In fact, that just happened yesterday. This is

460
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<v Speaker 1>even more fascinating than they with Cabrera's signing, just because

461
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<v Speaker 1>it has so many ramifications. That's the Cubs signed Alex

462
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<v Speaker 1>Bregmant to a long, five year deal. I don't think

463
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<v Speaker 1>it's filled with the opt outs, so they paid up

464
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<v Speaker 1>for him, and I think the ramifications is one. One

465
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<v Speaker 1>is that it was reported wildly that the widely that

466
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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox desperately wanted to bring Alex Bregmant back,

467
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<v Speaker 1>but we're unwilling to secure him. So the first question

468
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>is who's going to get his reps at third base?

469
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<v Speaker 1>And are they going to pick up the pace now

470
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<v Speaker 1>trying to sign Bobaschette, which is also rumored that the

471
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<v Speaker 1>Yankees want to sign Bobaschett. Tell me how it all finished,

472
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<v Speaker 1>how it all plays out in the next thirty days

473
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<v Speaker 1>in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would have to think that Boston is basically

475
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<v Speaker 2>going to look at going with the young players, which they.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Have a young which young players, A Christian Carsell is

477
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<v Speaker 1>a Marcella.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Mayor mayor I think at third base.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that, okay, and it was not very

480
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<v Speaker 1>good in a small sample sized light was up.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know they're looking at potentially Rome Gonzalez

482
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>being an everyday player. Campbell can slut in a second

483
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<v Speaker 2>basis an everyday player, Rome Gonzalez can going back, can

484
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 2>go back to being the super sub. But I don't

485
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<v Speaker 2>think with looking at the team build in Boston, I

486
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>don't see they've got Trevor's story. Okay, do they want

487
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Bobachett as well?

488
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Bobachette will play third. I'm assuming I would.

489
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<v Speaker 2>I would assume so. But like you, take a look

490
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<v Speaker 2>at Bobasheed and I know I've been down on he

491
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't hit twenty home runs last year and he wants

492
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<v Speaker 2>what half a gazillion dollars in a contract. I it

493
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>was a good year, the batting average was strong, but

494
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>again he was hurt. He missed time. He didn't hit

495
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty home he drove in ninety four or ninety five runs.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I think that the Red Sox are better off sticking

497
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>with what they have and doing nothing. Get the kids

498
00:27:54.960 --> 00:28:00.559
<v Speaker 2>some game time, and if those kids still even to

499
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>seventy percent of their potential Styi'll be in it for

500
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the playoff runt they can. They can add pieces at

501
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline and go from there. I don't think

502
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>there's a need to sign a costly buy a big bet.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it.

504
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And looking at the data, his range is awful at shortstop,

505
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>so he has just lost the footwork, he's lost the

506
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>speed he's in the twenty first percentis probably all going together,

507
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so he he really needs to move off of shortstop.

508
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Second base would be preferable given his arm strength, but

509
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 1>third base would be better than shortstop. Hits the ball

510
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>really hard, Timmy, the high end exit veloci has absolutely

511
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<v Speaker 1>no leverage. So maybe the Red Sox over relationship with

512
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Jad Martinez, bring him back during spring training and get

513
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>him had some leverage to a swing. I mean that's

514
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>where the that's why the home runs are missing. That's

515
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>just eight degree of launch. I mean, that's a doubles hitter.

516
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>So but he hits hard enough to he hits the

517
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 1>ball hard enough to twenty five arm runs. But there's

518
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 1>this he's got to add leverage to a swing. Well.

519
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and on top of that, the Dodgers are in

520
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>the mix. Apparently they're looking at a short I think

521
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at trying to low ball lowball them. But

522
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>he can't rule the Dodgers the equation for Bishet either, right.

523
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And he can't. We can't roll the Yankees out either.

524
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what we do not know is are the

525
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<v Speaker 1>Yankees still bullish on Anthony Volpi? If the Yankees are

526
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<v Speaker 1>still bullish on Anthony Volpi, then they go with Jose

527
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Caballera for the first couple of months and then bring

528
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>back Volpi. If they're not. I like Jose Cable, I

529
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just cannot believe they're gonna the New York Yankees are

530
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna stick with light hitting Jose Cappellira at shortstop.

531
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

532
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's too many questions right now that we don't

533
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>have answers to to come up with. You know, when

534
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>we get to Volpi in the shortstop rankings, some of

535
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>those concerns are are aired. But and again, Alex Bregman,

536
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>he's going to the Cubs. He got his butt saved,

537
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't he after turning down what forty million on in

538
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>options or eighty million whatever, It was a huge amount

539
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>of money. He did get a landing spot. But I'm

540
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<v Speaker 2>not overly keen on Alex Bregman in that park.

541
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, he's he's an older player too. He

542
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>swept thirty two.

543
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

544
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Have you Have you checked out Alex Bregman's spray chart.

545
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Alex Bregman's power is greatly diminished over time, and

546
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you're seeing the back half of his career.

547
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I think he could still hit. But if you told

548
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 1>me he's a fifteen eighteen home run guy, I mean, look,

549
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 1>because average eggs of velocity is, you know, ninety miles

550
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>an hour's flat at average at the moment with a

551
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ton of launch. So and last year was the first

552
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>year he had been ever over ninety miles an hour.

553
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<v Speaker 1>So I think you're looking at a down draft in

554
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>his home run power. And what was he eighteen last year?

555
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But he was hurt at the end of the season.

556
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>If he had sixteen seventeen home runs, it would not

557
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 1>surprise me. Everything is cool side. If you look at

558
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a spray chart, he stepp into the bucket and yank

559
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and everything in the left field.

560
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 2>And take a look at left field in Chicago and

561
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>left field in Boston. There's a difference there.

562
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, yeah, I mean it's the wall. It kind

563
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 1>of hurts home runs. But I mean it's easy to

564
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 1>have a high batt and average with tons of double there. Yep.

565
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I'm not overly Hey, good for Alex Bregman,

566
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think Cubs. I think Cubs fans are

567
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>expecting the Alex Bregman from his best years in Houston,

568
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think they're going to see it.

569
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Yeah, there's not a lot. I

570
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm looking at I mean his his average ax

571
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of velocity is we're all pretty much, you know, it's

572
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much. Everything is the same. It's always been a

573
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>leverage guy with not with average ex velocity. And that's

574
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing that goes when you're turning thirty three years old.

575
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 1>He's thirty one, is turning thirty two. So we'll see,

576
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 1>we'll see.

577
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm willing you go steak in liquor that hits

578
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 2>more home runs.

579
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking it because I'm I'm now, I'm a

580
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>proud owner of them, so I'm rooting for. Yeah, I

581
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>don't want to against my team.

582
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't bet against yourself.

583
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I don't know, Jenny, I have no idea.

584
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll make that steak and liquor bet after we have

585
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>some data to take a look at. I have no idea.

586
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so okay, So The big question then, is

587
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>it looked like Matt Shaw was going to be the

588
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 4>third basement coming into the season.

589
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that is no longer the plan. Does Matt

590
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Shaw get moved? Do they move them to the outfield? Maybe?

591
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 1>What's what's going to go down there?

592
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, the big rumor coming out of Chicago for virtually

593
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>all the off season, and it hasn't come to fruition yet,

594
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>is that Nico Horner is on the trade block and

595
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at moving him. Well, Nico horn is costing

596
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>them a good buck, okay, and I believe he's heading

597
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>into free agency in twenty twenty seven. So the logical

598
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>move is Nico Horner, okay, getting moved and Matt shawnees

599
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>up at second base. Okay. If Horner doesn't get moved, well,

600
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>what do they what do they do with Matt Shaw? Hey?

601
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>They can they can use him as a super sub

602
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 2>per se and one of my worst fears because he's

603
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 2>a right handed bat, okay, and Moyeses Belisteros they're current

604
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 2>slotted in DH is a left hand bat. They could

605
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>end up platooning by a Steros right in the DH slot,

606
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>which would that doesn't that doesn't impress me. I think

607
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 2>they're going to move Forrner and move Shaw to second base.

608
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 2>That's what I think is going to happen. But if

609
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 2>it stays as it is as per today, Matt Shaw's

610
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 2>value is taking a huge hit, huge hit, and I

611
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>could see them possibly looking at moving him based on

612
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 2>some of the things that we have heard in the

613
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>past three four months.

614
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Matt Shaw, I think, yeah, there could be some

615
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:37.159
<v Speaker 1>other things going on there. It's been pretty wildly widely

616
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>report out, wildly widely reported that Matt Shaw kind of

617
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.559
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to listen to coaches very much, so that

618
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he is kind of been not receptive to some of

619
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the teachings that the Cubs have had, and apparently that's

620
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 1>rankled the Cubs. I've also heard that the players and

621
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the coaches were not wild about Matt shall le the

622
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>team to go to the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I don't

623
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 1>know how much truth is to that, but I mean,

624
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>all that could you know, shit happens to me that

625
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff never You never know what's going on

626
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of that, so just you know, so

627
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that could be playing a role. But if Nico Horner

628
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>gets moved and Shaw gets second base, then you know,

629
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff doesn't.

630
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Matter right exactly. We can speculate all we want, but again,

631
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, we don't know how

632
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the the powers to be in Chicago feel about any

633
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of those issues. No matter how many rumors are floating

634
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>around out there until they're substantiated by somebody, they're just

635
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that rumors, right.

636
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 1>They're that, but they're they're they're out there, and I

637
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just felt like because it could play a role. But

638
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're in a draft at the moment

639
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and you've got you've got desires on Matt Shaw, you

640
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 1>don't take him where he's currently going, because he should

641
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>be you know, if too much risk there at the moment.

642
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I agree, in the one draft I've done this year,

643
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I own both Shaw and Bellosteros. Ask me how thrilled

644
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I am right now?

645
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, you know, I look, I think when you made

646
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>those picks, they weren't a terrible call because who would

647
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.559
<v Speaker 1>have had Alex Bregman going to the Cubs. I mean

648
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that didn't look like a possibility because just set knee middle.

649
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Cubs have plenty, They have plenty of

650
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>middle middle infielders. They need outfielders, and if they weren't

651
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>going to sign Tucker, then they go with Cody Bellinger.

652
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>But they've already had Cody Bellinger, so I don't know.

653
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, then you look at their oatfield and Pete

654
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 2>grow Armstrong and Suzuki and Ian Hap they're not bad options.

655
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>That was not a pressing a pressing needs. So yeah,

656
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 2>it's uh, it just goes to show you the best

657
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 2>laid plans of mice and men can change very very

658
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>quickly in this game.

659
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but sometimes you tell so you just don't. You

660
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to mess with that situation. Like if

661
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it's if things are full, particularly for young players, and

662
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 1>there's not a clear path to playing time, sometimes it's

663
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>best just to tap out and move on somewhere else.

664
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree. I think you have to look at

665
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 2>each in every situation and scrutinize it and make what

666
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you think is the best decision. Sometimes it works, sometimes

667
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't, simple as that.

668
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And to just get a comparison, and Matt Schall's a

669
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>better player I think than Owen Casey, But all of

670
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Owen Casey becomes more intriguing to me to

671
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Matt Shaw because Owen Casey. He's going to play in

672
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 1>April and May. He might not play well enough to stick.

673
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 1>He's going to get a shot. I mean, they traded

674
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Edward Cabrera for him. He's going to get a shot.

675
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and you know what three weeks from now,

676
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 2>when Nico Horner is a member of the Dodgers, Okay,

677
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Matt Shaw's value is going to take a big Injries.

678
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Just you don't know, you really don't.

679
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>But you also have to, don't you agree? You also

680
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 1>have to play what you know at the at the

681
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>current junction, and you can't like sometimes say well, I

682
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 1>just believe this is going to happen. And I mean

683
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong, because sometimes you got

684
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to play with what you know and what's the most

685
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>likely occurrence?

686
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Connor Griffin went in what's the fifteenth round?

687
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Fifteenth round?

688
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, Well, if the Pirates determine he's not ready

689
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 2>until August, that's not a real good pick, is it. Nope,

690
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna have problems with that team. You

691
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>got to have a fifteenth round pick carries a big

692
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>chunk of value no production for three months. You best

693
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>got to build yourself in something to cover your butt

694
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>because it's going neat covering. It's as simple as that, right.

695
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not to say that I made the right decision,

696
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>but to me, JJ Weatherhold is the better pick there.

697
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Not to say that JJ Weatherhold is the better player.

698
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.079
<v Speaker 1>I think there's way more logic for JJ Well the

699
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>whole starting the season or being up very early, as

700
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>opposed to Connor Griffin. Now, anything can happen.

701
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>KNT.

702
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Griffin's a potentially a unicorn and you know, is the

703
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 1>next Led La Cruz kind of player, and it's just

704
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they're going to bring him up. And Wilson was wrong,

705
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 1>But that's just my gut is like there's too much uncertainty,

706
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>particularly when you include the Pirates and the equation.

707
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, they're they're still trying to get him to

708
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>sign a seven year extension for minimum all seven years.

709
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, if I were running, if I were running

710
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 1>the club, I think if you're running the club, Connor

711
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Griffin would be there. Maybe not on April first, but

712
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 1>by May first, he'd be on my team in Pittsburgh.

713
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I was running the Pirates, he would break camp.

714
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>He'd be on that team. You take a Look, how

715
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>many tickets is he going to ticket sales? Is he's

716
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>going is he going to generate in Pittsburgh three four

717
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>or five I thought was in the game. Multiply that

718
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.679
<v Speaker 2>by a month or two. That traditionally the Pirates would

719
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>sit them in the minors by forty fifty bucks a

720
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 2>ticket and the bleachers whatever it is. There's big money there, Okay.

721
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, you got.

722
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>A potential hall You got a potential Hall of Fame

723
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>pitcher sitting there. And Paul Skins, who gets here's a

724
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>here's a here's a statement for you, Tim that gets

725
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a day older every day. So it's like closer to

726
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 1>free agency. I mean it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, now

727
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>it's now or never, and uh, I think you just

728
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you got to bring up everybody and try to go

729
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 1>for it because you're not that the next Paul Skimes

730
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>might not be there ever again, but it might take

731
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 1>a decade for the next ball Skiings even get close

732
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to coming on your team.

733
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, it's like looking at the Jays five years ago,

734
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 2>they had lots of time before free agency kicks in. Well,

735
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 2>that time's now coming gone. The Orioles are halfway through

736
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>their cycle, Okay, that's right on the on the on

737
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 2>the kids that they brought.

738
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Up last year.

739
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So, man, if I was trying to put

740
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>fans in the seats and make money, i'd have these

741
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 2>kids up here five minutes before they're ready, okay, and

742
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>just go with it, because.

743
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 1>If you brought if you, if you broke camp with

744
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Connor Griffin, you let him play through all of his struggles.

745
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he's Connor Griffin what you think he's going to

746
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 1>be for the rest of his career by August, you know,

747
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>July August, and and you just got to suffer through

748
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the first couple three months as he's learning the game

749
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and figuring things out. You know, he's going to steal bases.

750
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>He might not hit, but he's going to steal bases,

751
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to help the team. He's going to

752
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>be a decent shortstop, maybe in a very good shortstop.

753
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I would do. But I don't trust

754
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the pirates.

755
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well no, and you know how many how many tickets,

756
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>how many seats are going to be filled by Nick Sonzalis.

757
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's not a slight against Nick Guzalis. Sorry sorry

758
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>if you're listening, Nick, but mister Griffin. Yeah, he's gonna

759
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>pay the freight for a while in Pittsburgh. You know,

760
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>hunting can might get a new car out of it.

761
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow, there you go, a final final move, like just

762
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 1>a small movement. The Rockies acquired Jake McCarthy. Granted, it

763
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.599
<v Speaker 1>is the Rockies, so I mean, I in shart your

764
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>own joke, I mean the Rockies. I think we can

765
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>definitively say that's a worse organization than the Pirates. But

766
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming he gets a jumping value. I would think

767
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>at least at the beginning of the season he's gonna play.

768
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah, well, they got him slotted in at roster

769
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.079
<v Speaker 2>resource as the everyday right fielder. There's say, if you're

770
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>looking in a draft and hold, if you're looking at

771
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>cheap speed, you need some stolen based numbers late or

772
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>even in a fifteen team redraft. Okay, if you find

773
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>your little late on stolen bases, head into the reserve rounds. Yeah,

774
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Jake McCarthy can run, there's no doubt about it. Hitting well, again,

775
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that's questionable. But he'll do ases for you.

776
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agree, But again it's it's it's the Rocky

777
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>mistique of they'll probably stink when he gets there. So

778
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:20.039
<v Speaker 1>just I guess we need to throw that one in there.

779
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's a bit of a bummer

780
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're hoping for the best for Zach Vien or

781
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe Sterling Thompson.

782
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they hate Zach Veen, There's no doubt about that.

783
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's yeah, so that he took a

784
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>huge hit. Even Cole Kerrick, who is an interesting guy,

785
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>should start the season at Triple A. I'm wondering if

786
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>if McCarthy gums it up for him as.

787
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Well well, Either that or he's just simply a placeholder

788
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>until they deem these kids to be ready, like McCarthy

789
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>could be, could be just a one two month experiment

790
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>to fill in the gaps until yeah, the kids, kids

791
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>are ready. But again it's the Rockies, so yeah, think, yeah, yeah,

792
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not betting on them getting it right.

793
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's leave that.

794
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 2>You look at Arizona and all of a sudden you're

795
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 2>looking at Alec Thomas and centerfield Blaze, Alexander and left

796
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and Corbyn Carroll of course and right. What that says

797
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>to me is Ryan wals Schmidt, as we have talked

798
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>about fairly extensively in the past while, I think he

799
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>should get a bump up into re draft leagues. He'd

800
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>be a he'd be a reserve round target. Based on

801
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the existing structure of the Diamondbacks outfield. I think we're

802
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>going to see him early. I really do. I think

803
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be a good player.

804
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. It looks like Jordan Lawler unless

805
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>they bring somebody and we'll get the starting slot in

806
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>third base. I think he would have been a great

807
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 1>center fielder, but doesn't look at that as the plan.

808
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I question if Alec Thomas is a full time regular.

809
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I questioned whether Blaze Alexander even more Blaze Alexander is

810
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>a full time Regan. It's it's all sitting there for

811
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Ryan waltschmanth to come up.

812
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, I he definitely takes a bump upwards. I

813
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>think as a result of this deal.

814
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Yep, totally agree with you. Tommy, take a break, come

815
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>back and uh I want to yeah, whoops, hold on

816
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for a second, all right, We're back on. Yeah, Sorry,

817
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 1>hit the wrong button there. So let's take a take

818
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and come back and let's hear about shortstop.

819
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Sorry nothing, everybody got my fingers mixed up to me

820
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh so, I I just update on our Dynasty

821
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Leagues and our site, Timmy. We have everybody is signed

822
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>up paid for except for one one slot left in

823
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>d L for an old legacy league that I need

824
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>one more owner for. So I'm hoping somebody steps up

825
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and tells me they want to take that team. It's

826
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 1>a it's a pretty lousy team.

827
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 2>So okay, well, hey, you know what, if you get

828
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>stuck in a pinch, maybe I can convince Bob king

829
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I maybe the two of us could take it on

830
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>just to keep things going.

831
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I offered it to Bob king High. It was it

832
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>was a hard no.

833
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what you're saying is I'm really going to have

834
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 2>to grovel, Okay to make ad I'm sure.

835
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.079
<v Speaker 1>We'll find somebody, but it's it's somebody who's get the

836
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>first pick.

837
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey, well, hey, nothing nothing wrong with that. You're gonna

838
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.079
<v Speaker 2>get it. You're gonna get an ace level starting pitcher.

839
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 1>There you go. I actually I've thought about I have

840
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a very good team. I thought about maybe giving my

841
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 1>team to somebody else and I'll take it, you know,

842
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 1>just take one for the team. And it's been the

843
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>next couple of years rebuilding it. But uh, but anyway,

844
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 1>so that's a hundred, it's it's weirder's you know, I

845
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 1>got a dozen leagues, So that's you're talking a lot

846
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and seventy eighty, probably about one hundred

847
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and seventy owners and trying to get everybody paid up.

848
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's always stuff that happens. People don't want to

849
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go back for whatever reason. Some people

850
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 1>just hate hate fantasy baseball after doing it for years

851
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and need a break, and you know so but so,

852
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, all of that is done, so down to

853
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 1>one one final owner. I'll put it out to the

854
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 1>masses and next week if I don't get somebody from

855
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 1>our Patreon site or maybe the free members of our Patriots,

856
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I give me a give me a shout out. But

857
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>that's all. That's all I'm looking for. All right, Timmy,

858
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 1>you got shortstop? My friend?

859
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do.

860
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about shortstop. How do you think people should

861
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 1>be viewing shortstop as they come into the season. What

862
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>did you find out after reviewing it? I one thing

863
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I did note you didn't have as many players as

864
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the other positions, only fifty eight. I think

865
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 1>there was seventy two second basement, which I found to

866
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 1>be a little curious. So tell us what you thought

867
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about going ranking shortstop.

868
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, you could have one hundred and seventy two at

869
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 2>second base, looking at how lean the position is, Okay,

870
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I think when you get to shortstop, I think it's

871
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a little more definitive, especially at the top end. Okay,

872
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you get the top fifteen, rostering any of that top

873
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>fifteen is hey, I'm not going to fault you. There's

874
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the best collection of talent top fifteen at

875
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>any position in the league. Okay, After the top fifteen,

876
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>then question marks start arising. And when I started looking

877
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>at it, I've drafted one league and I avoided the

878
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>top fifteen. I went later on, and you try to

879
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 2>utilize speed from the position. Okay, it'll work, okay, But

880
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you can't be passing on a Zach Needle okay, or

881
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 2>a Gunner Henderson or a Francisco Lindoor and base basing

882
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 2>your plans around not per se having them in advance.

883
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>They're all great players, and they're going to produce wonderful

884
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 2>stats of your fantasy team. But if you decide as

885
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you get into your draft, you've gone with an outfield

886
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>focus or whatever strategy you're playing, You're going to look

887
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 2>at the players from fifteen on as very useful chips

888
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 2>in filling in the gaps. Okay, Yeah, you're dealing with

889
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 2>players that will give you speed. You're looking at high risk,

890
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 2>high upside youngsters, players coming off subpar seasons. There are

891
00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>options after fifteen, but that top fifteen is stacked. It's

892
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a nice group, it really is rich.

893
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I had wanted to go on into my draft. I

894
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 1>had wanted to wait on Shortstop, and I said that

895
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to our Patreon members, but when Elie de la Cruz

896
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was there, I had to take Ali de la Cruz.

897
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's just the way it worked out for me.

898
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I did want Corpy, and Carra was pretty transparent about that.

899
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>But I'm happy I got Ali de la Cruz. But well,

900
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you could do well if you wait on shortstop. I

901
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

902
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

903
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Again, what happens if you play the waiting game, okay,

904
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 2>is you have to really focus on your team build. Okay,

905
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, you might you might be

906
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 2>looking at say Jose Kevleer or Xavier Edwards. Well, you

907
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>got to find your power. You might be loading up

908
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 2>in power on the outfield or first base if you

909
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 2>decide to go late. But you have to really focus

910
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and stay on top of your team build, okay, or

911
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>else you'll end up with the eight hundred stolen bases

912
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and no power. Okay. It's every time, every time you

913
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 2>make a move, it results in a corresponding move and

914
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 2>a corresponding move, and if you go later on short stop,

915
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very important that you stay on top

916
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of your game, or else you could end up boxing

917
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 2>yourself into a situation that's not really favorable.

918
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Given your discussion, primarily around outfield, and there's so many

919
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>outfitters going in the first round. Obviously, two non outfielders

920
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>are Bobby Witt Junior and Elie Dela Cruz. What's your

921
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>thought like for me when you're on the clock and

922
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Eli Dela Cruz is the best player on the clock.

923
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 1>But maybe you go position same thing as Bobby with Junior,

924
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>who's going to go number two, number three off the board?

925
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>How much? How much do you go, well, I'm just

926
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>going to take the best player off the board, or look,

927
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I really need an outfielder. Maybe I'll take a less

928
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 1>outfielder because they fin out so quick. What's your thought

929
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in the first round, particularly with with Junior and Elie

930
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 1>della Cruz.

931
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm taking with Junior. I'm taking Elie de la

932
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Cruz where he's currently going. I might move up Francisco Lindor. Okay,

933
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 2>he's gone thirty thirty two of the past three seasons.

934
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>He missed the third season by a single stolen base.

935
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's a good player. Gunner Henderson, I think

936
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 2>is going to have a monster season. I'm I'm looking.

937
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the players and what they are going

938
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 2>to provide rich and hey, if it's close, yeah, I'll

939
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 2>go with an outfielder. But looking right now at the

940
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>at the you know, the overall ADPs, I am I'm

941
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 2>not bumping down. You know, Hey, Aaron Judge is going

942
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 2>to be off the board. He's going at two three, right.

943
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 2>If I have a choice between Aaron Judge and Bobby

944
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Witt Junior, I'll probably take Bobby Witt. Junior would be

945
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.280
<v Speaker 2>very close. Juan So yeah, yeah, if he's there, am

946
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I going to take him? Or Elie Delacruz. I'll take

947
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Juan So I agree Corvin Carroll, But again, I think

948
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>so many of these positions are in slots where you

949
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have that decision to make. Are you gonna take

950
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Julio Rodriguez, okay, or Elie Delacruz.

951
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.239
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly that was exactly my my my concern. I

952
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>was in that slot and I decided I have to

953
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 1>take Elie de Lacruz. He's the better player.

954
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, and especially with the news that we've recently

955
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>found out about in November of all, Yeah, that's a

956
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 2>really great time to be updating us on injury status situations. Yeah,

957
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the end of November. Yeah, it makes no Yeah, but

958
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Cruise was hurt last year. I think we suspected it,

959
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't.

960
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Well we heard this week somebody else was heard. Gunnor

961
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Henderson was reported I was hurt. Yeah, well, no shit,

962
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 1>why did we knew that? Why did you say something? Well?

963
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe maybe it's time they went to a football

964
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.920
<v Speaker 2>type situation and at the end of every week they

965
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 2>have to make announcements as to player status. Okay, we

966
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was Gunnar Henderson. He dealt with a shoulder

967
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>impingement for three quarters of a year. Maybe that explains

968
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>why his home runs dropped from thirty seven to seventeen.

969
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. But it'd be nice to know that stuff,

970
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it that when it's relevant.

971
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>It was like car a couple of years ago is

972
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>when you know, we saw the date he got hurt.

973
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We saw everything trail off after that date and he said,

974
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. Well now you're not. And the same thing

975
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>was with Gunnar Henderson. He started the year on the

976
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 1>eye ol and he never wasn't he wasn't ready.

977
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, pardon the language, but I'm

978
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 2>calling bullshit on Carbon Carrol and you know, yeah, they've

979
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 2>never said anything. He's been fine all along. It was

980
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 2>just a coincidence he hadn't hit for three months for power.

981
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>With Connor Henderson, do you take a look at the

982
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>data and the data is like it all looked great,

983
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean every yeah, everything should He should not have

984
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 1>done had the season he had last last year unless

985
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>there was something that he wasn't able to turn around

986
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>on which wouldn't show up in the data. And now

987
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we find out. So and my only concern with Francisco

988
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Lindor great player, but he's one of those guys that's older.

989
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You take a look at the data, that data is

990
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:31.400
<v Speaker 1>not good on him anymore. I mean it's it's danger

991
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Will Robinson kind of thing. So I'll just bring that up.

992
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, fair enough. Yeah, but at the end of

993
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the year this year, very few players have the potential

994
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 2>to be thirty thirty. I think he's still won next year. Man,

995
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens this year. Maybe I'll be proven

996
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 2>wrong on that one.

997
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's the time. Well, it's almost like Mookie Betts,

998
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>which you're probably gonna take. I guess he's only a

999
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>shortstop or no, he's he's still.

1000
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>That's just nope, just short stuff.

1001
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's can we skip down to hem because when I

1002
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 1>told him with your data, it looked terrible to him.

1003
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.159
<v Speaker 1>It looked like this was an older player and his

1004
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 1>best years were behind him. And now he's starting to

1005
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 1>be reflective in that where he's going in the fourth round.

1006
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And last year he was a first round draft pick.

1007
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But I don't the data does not say is a

1008
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick anymore.

1009
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.639
<v Speaker 2>No, he's going right now in the fourth round. Yeah,

1010
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>early early in the fourth round. Now you get to

1011
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 2>bet it's there's some variables that come into play here. Okay,

1012
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 2>he missed the season opener and lost nearly twenty mothers.

1013
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.800
<v Speaker 2>You saw him the first month of the season, man

1014
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it I'm I don't know how he hit singles, he taggered.

1015
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 2>He did not look good at the end of May,

1016
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 2>apparently struggling around in his bathroom and the dark. He

1017
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 2>fractured his toe, okay, and he played through it okay,

1018
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.800
<v Speaker 2>which which is wonderful that he played through it. But

1019
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>how much did that cost come stolen base production? I

1020
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 2>think between the flu bug and the broken toe, it

1021
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.519
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't his year. Okay. Now do you start downgrading

1022
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:20.400
<v Speaker 2>because of that? I'm not looking at rostering Mookie Bets

1023
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 2>because of the age and what happened last year. But

1024
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't fault anybody for saying, well, it happened, it's over,

1025
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it's done. He's going to report the camp this year

1026
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 2>in the best shape of his life and the way

1027
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.639
<v Speaker 2>we go, and he could produce to an extremely high level.

1028
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>He could prove to be a bargain as current ADP

1029
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>of forty eight. It's not for me, but I think

1030
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 2>we have answers. Unlike Gunner Henderson and Ellie de la Cruz,

1031
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 2>we have some answers to questions that at least make

1032
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 2>sense in looking at what he did last year.

1033
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>His average ex velocity in his big year twenty twenty

1034
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.320
<v Speaker 1>three was ninety two point four. He was up with

1035
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the big boys with huge lever, so it was the

1036
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.559
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine home runs were shocking. But you take a

1037
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.239
<v Speaker 1>look at the data, they go, Okay, I can see

1038
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>why I did that. Last year twenty twenty four eighty

1039
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>nine point nine. Last year eighty nine point one. So

1040
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 1>this is like, and this is what you typically see

1041
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 1>an older players, where the exit velocity start to go

1042
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>down just as it hit.

1043
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 3>The ball is.

1044
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Hard, the speed has gone down. Maybe that has to

1045
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>do with his fractured foot. I don't know, but I'm

1046
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>hoping there's a bit of a bounce back. But I

1047
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 1>it feels more like a twenty home run ten stolen

1048
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>base guy to me as opposed to a thirty plus

1049
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>home run guy.

1050
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you say, well, you know, he played

1051
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.239
<v Speaker 2>most of the first half of one hundred and fifty

1052
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>five pounds. That's twenty five pounds later in coz Hell Deltuve.

1053
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Probably you know what I mean. It's it's all about

1054
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 2>how much risk you want to incur. Yeah, this could

1055
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>be the beginning of the end. It could be a

1056
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>one off based on what happened last year and argue both.

1057
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 1>And thirty three come on, I mean, I don't know

1058
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.559
<v Speaker 1>if that's Yeah, maybe maybe that he'll bounce back, But

1059
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, father time is just catching up to these guys,

1060
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately Mooky BET's good chance he makes all of

1061
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>fame here at least has a chance. He's got an

1062
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 1>MVP on his but he we just turned thirty three,

1063
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 1>so he's in his thirty three years. That's that's an

1064
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 1>old player.

1065
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.440
<v Speaker 2>By today's game standards. I agree.

1066
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll see too much, too much risk for

1067
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 1>me in the four I I would skip over bets, yeah,

1068
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and just take some if I can't get one of

1069
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the big guys. I would love Gunner Henderson in the

1070
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>second round, But if I can't get one of the

1071
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>big guys, it's just like, okay, I'll just wait.

1072
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 2>So you know who I'm really bullish on, and I

1073
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 2>might make an exception for Zach Needle.

1074
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he moved up a lot from last season seventeenth.

1075
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Now he's you've got to rank you got to rank fifth.

1076
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know we've seen back to back twenty twenty seasons,

1077
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 2>he's still young. I think there is the possibility we

1078
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 2>could be talking about zach Nido as a first round

1079
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 2>pick next year.

1080
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, you think he's going You think he's going

1081
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.119
<v Speaker 1>to hit hit enough to be a first round pick if.

1082
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>He goes thirty thirty. Yeah, yeah, I think he is.

1083
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 2>And I think there's a chance that he does that.

1084
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:27.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got back to back twenty twenty seasons to start

1085
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 2>his career. If he elevates his game any any more

1086
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 2>above what it is now, he's already the going the

1087
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>first pick in the third round. He's you know that's yeah.

1088
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked by anything that happens there. I'm bullish.

1089
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I I'm willing to move him up into probably the

1090
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 2>middle of the second round, middle middle back, end of

1091
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the second round.

1092
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>There, you heard it from the great Tim mc cloud.

1093
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Trey Turner contendues, he's got Let me just do the

1094
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 1>top ten real quick, just so jumping around Bobby Wood

1095
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Junior one, Elie de la Cruz two, Francisco Lindor three,

1096
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Gunner Henderson four, Zachnito five, Trey Turner, Mookie Betts, CJ

1097
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Abrams eight, Heraldo Prodoma and then falling in at number

1098
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.559
<v Speaker 1>ten with Trevor's story, Trey Turner dropping a little bit

1099
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>from his heyday when he was a first round draft pick,

1100
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>but still you're pretty still pretty bullish on him.

1101
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, the power dropped last year, but he

1102
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 2>still posted his third best season with thirty six stolen bases. Okay,

1103
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 2>when you start looking at Trey Turner, he's going back

1104
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 2>of the second round. If he EPs his home run

1105
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 2>potential by five to seven home runs and steals thirty

1106
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:51.920
<v Speaker 2>five to forty bases, that's a good player. And even

1107
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.119
<v Speaker 2>at you know, fifteen to eighteen home runs, anything over

1108
01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty stolen bases, the run scored, you know we're going

1109
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 2>to be very, very solid. So yeah, I and when

1110
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I look at the NFBC versus my our picks are

1111
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 2>basically chalk for the most part, up one doubt on

1112
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple, it's.

1113
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.559
<v Speaker 1>It's that way. I didn't really highlight anything because you're

1114
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:18.519
<v Speaker 1>pretty much chalk all the way through. Let's come we

1115
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 1>go to Heralda Perdoma. I mean, you got chalk is

1116
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the NBC NFC You've got him ass the ninth ninth, Frank, guys,

1117
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 1>does the NFBC as far as eighty p's are going.

1118
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

1119
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there there was the breakout campaign. I get it.

1120
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But is is this somebody your bullish going into the season.

1121
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm not sure looking at the data. The

1122
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 1>data just doesn't support what he did.

1123
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not bullish, but I think he's earned his

1124
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.679
<v Speaker 2>place in the pecking order. Okay, would I be surprised

1125
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.480
<v Speaker 2>if be at fifteen home runs? No, I think he's

1126
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 2>going to drive in eighty to eighty five as a floor.

1127
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.840
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna score very close to one hundreds, if not more,

1128
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and he'll steal twenty to twenty five bases. The batting

1129
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.400
<v Speaker 2>average is great. Okay, he might not be as good

1130
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.800
<v Speaker 2>as he was last year, but I think he's still

1131
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 2>good enough to be a top ten shortstop with an

1132
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 2>ADP right now of the sixth round. That's you know,

1133
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 2>even if you reduce his numbers and work backwards, is

1134
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 2>he a six round pick? I think he is. He

1135
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:29.239
<v Speaker 2>can knucking hurt you, and they can hitch it hurt

1136
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you in any category.

1137
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna hurt you because he's a He's a

1138
01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:36.519
<v Speaker 1>great hitter. His walk rates are great, his strakeout rates

1139
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:39.559
<v Speaker 1>are great, but his average ex of velocity is eighty

1140
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 1>seven point six miles an hour with a really nice

1141
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 1>launch angle, and he's forty fourth percentile and sprint speed.

1142
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It's this is this guy that's not doesn't it the

1143
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.599
<v Speaker 1>ball hard? He's not that fast. I I just don't.

1144
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I that's too much risk. Maybe he's not three and

1145
01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 1>nine like he did in twenty four. I don't think

1146
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he's twenty and twenty seven like he did last season.

1147
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lot less bullish than you are. I'm actually

1148
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty negative on Heraldo to Predoma, seeing a big correction coming.

1149
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.960
<v Speaker 2>See what I think has happened with Perdomo is the

1150
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.880
<v Speaker 2>correction has already occurred in the ADPs. If people believed

1151
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:21.280
<v Speaker 2>that he can repeat last year, okay and possibly up

1152
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, Okay, we see a natural sort

1153
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of upward trend in the projections, Okay. If that was

1154
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the case, I don't think his ADP w'd be eighty five, Okay,

1155
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be thirty to thirty five. So I

1156
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 2>think the correction has already been made by the bulk

1157
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.639
<v Speaker 2>of the marketplace, and they're saying, no, we don't believe

1158
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:43.480
<v Speaker 2>last year. But at the same point in time as

1159
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a fifth, sixth round pick. Them's good numbers. So that's

1160
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 2>sort of where I'm coming from with Perdomo, and I

1161
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:55.599
<v Speaker 2>think the NFBZ Folke, we're on the same page.

1162
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is a guy that can hit

1163
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with who went to twenty twenty should not be going

1164
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 1>in the sixth round.

1165
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't. I don't think so. Would you rather

1166
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 2>have have him or a ros Arena.

1167
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have a Rose Arena.

1168
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you're you're not if you don't want the

1169
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 2>batting average from Perdomo, Okay, I.

1170
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't think I want speed and production that early. I'll

1171
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>worry about uh. I mean, I I just I think

1172
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he's more of a ten to ten kind of guy,

1173
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:36.000
<v Speaker 1>not a twenty twenty kind of guy, and a better

1174
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:39.719
<v Speaker 1>player than Lewis arrives, but in the same in the

1175
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:40.400
<v Speaker 1>same group.

1176
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he I think he's a fifteen twenty Okay,

1177
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I think the draft slot is fair.

1178
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 2>But if if you're thinking he's a ten ten type player, yeah,

1179
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 2>then he's going too high. I agree with you totally.

1180
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean.

1181
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 2>He's definitely a player we could talk about him for

1182
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the next two hours, couldn't we.

1183
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I mean I see Jared Duran at seventy

1184
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 1>two and Heroldo Perdoma at seventy. I mean, I take

1185
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Jared Duran way before Heraldo Perdoma. I see Cody Bellinger

1186
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.039
<v Speaker 1>at seventy nine. I'd rather have Cody Bellinger mcl garcia

1187
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:16.639
<v Speaker 1>at eighty five. Please, I'd much rather have Mickael Garcia

1188
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:18.920
<v Speaker 1>than Heroldo Perdoma. That's just me.

1189
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what makes the world go round. But

1190
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:25.880
<v Speaker 2>why there's.

1191
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 1>A market, That's why there's a market, and everything is

1192
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because you have people who go one way, other people

1193
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 1>go the other way.

1194
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So exactly, Yeah, all I know is I think as

1195
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he's earned his right hitting into this year

1196
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to be a top ten short stuff. Whether he has

1197
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:44.679
<v Speaker 2>that same you know, he can lay that claim again

1198
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 2>next year. We're gonna find.

1199
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Out you have every right to be wrong, McLeod, and

1200
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I will give you that, so will take a break

1201
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:54.079
<v Speaker 1>to the next set.

1202
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me think about that for a second.

1203
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It's that's a very southern thing you saying.

1204
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Very nicely, and it's just wait a minute, that's not

1205
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a compliment.

1206
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like my line is is it the word off

1207
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:25.000
<v Speaker 2>You don't understand exactly.

1208
01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should give Trevor's story at ten a

1209
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.199
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a you like, I'm a little bit

1210
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:33.719
<v Speaker 1>more in the nfcebody's gone to the same general. You're

1211
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.360
<v Speaker 1>believing that that what he did assuming Health in Boston

1212
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:38.159
<v Speaker 1>is repeatable.

1213
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am. Yeah. I was very happy for Trevor's story. Okay,

1214
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.159
<v Speaker 2>let's face it. The first three years in Boston to

1215
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 2>say they were a disappointments and understatement, but he brought

1216
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:54.800
<v Speaker 2>his numbers up to the not not the power, you know,

1217
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to thirty seven home runs, thirty whatever it was. But

1218
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:01.719
<v Speaker 2>he had a good year and he proved he can

1219
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 2>still play. I think I think he can repeat what

1220
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.519
<v Speaker 2>he did last year Assuming Health.

1221
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 1>At number eleven. Was Willia Damas, Jeremy Pania at twelve,

1222
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Cory Seger at thirteen, Dansby Swanson at fourteen, Boba shatt

1223
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Down at fifteen, a little less than where he's going

1224
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in the NFC Otto Lopez, Xavier Edwards, Jose Cabolera at eighteen,

1225
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Knda Griffin comes in at nineteen, and Ezekiel Toober, your

1226
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:31.079
<v Speaker 1>guy from last year, drops two down to twenty. I

1227
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:33.560
<v Speaker 1>do like Lilia Dimas and Jeremy Panya up there. I

1228
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:37.199
<v Speaker 1>think they're just outside of the top ten. Cory Seger

1229
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a little disappointing that you have him down so low.

1230
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Clearly a guy with a ton of power didn't have

1231
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a very season last year because of the injuries. Don't

1232
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you think a guy that was the number two, number three,

1233
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:51.520
<v Speaker 1>where did you have him last year? You had him

1234
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.079
<v Speaker 1>ranked number seven, so he was ranked seventh, and he's

1235
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 1>down six lots from last season.

1236
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:06.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I look at the level the skill set, okay,

1237
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of the shortstops that he's going nose to nose with, Okay,

1238
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I think I like Williadomas Moore. I think the combination

1239
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.239
<v Speaker 2>of power speed gives you an edge. I think Jeremy

1240
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Penny it's the same thing, the combination of power and speed.

1241
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I think Corey Seeger is a fine player, Okay. I

1242
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:29.159
<v Speaker 2>think he's a thirty thirty home run eighty RBI anyways,

1243
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:31.840
<v Speaker 2>if he can get in five hundred of bats. But

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01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.079
<v Speaker 2>what's Jeremy pain? You're gonna do fifteen to twenty homers,

1245
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:37.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five stolen bases somewhere in there. You add

1246
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:41.880
<v Speaker 2>him up, there's an edge. Williadamas stole twelve bases? I

1247
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 2>think he was over thirty home runs last year. Is

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01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Corey Seager going to hit forty home runs because we

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01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:49.680
<v Speaker 2>know he ain't gonna steal any bases?

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01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 1>That's fair the guy, though, I'm a little closed. Yeah,

1251
01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I get I'm disappointed in people and you and people

1252
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:04.159
<v Speaker 1>don't like Dansby Swanson. I've told this story before at

1253
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Dynasty leagues where I had too many middle infielders and

1254
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I think at Bobby with Junior before

1255
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.199
<v Speaker 1>he was just just as he was coming into the league.

1256
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. But Dancy Swanson was one of them.

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01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And I would put you know, Trey Block, put all

1258
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the guys out there, and I get I'd get hits

1259
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 1>on everybody but Dansby Swanson. People hate Danceby Swanson. But

1260
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 1>yet look at his numbers last season, Tim, he was

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01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 1>really good.

1262
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, not only last season, take a look at his

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01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:38.760
<v Speaker 2>numbers for the past three years. Okay, going back to

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01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:44.399
<v Speaker 2>home run twenty two, sixteen twenty four RBIs eighty sixty six,

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01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:50.239
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, stolen bases nine nineteen twenty batting average two

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01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:54.000
<v Speaker 2>forty four, two forty two, two forty four, run scored

1267
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:59.640
<v Speaker 2>eighty one, eighty two, eighty four. Like he's a consistent

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01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 2>he's a consistent earner in this game.

1269
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anywhere. But he's a twenty twenty guy with a

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01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 1>low batting average, and it doesn't walk enough. I mean

1271
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that's just you know, he's never walked the time. But

1272
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.199
<v Speaker 1>that I still think that a two fifty two to

1273
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.239
<v Speaker 1>sixty guy that you can get with the as the

1274
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth shortstop off the board if everybody else, if you're

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01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:25.680
<v Speaker 1>waiting to me, that's the guy.

1276
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, look at consistency counts at times. Okay, it

1277
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 2>really does. And Dansby Swanson, what's his floor? Okay, it's

1278
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:40.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot higher than Bubashet and his floor is a

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01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>lot higher than a lot of the shortstops okay on

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01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 2>this list. But again because he doesn't have big home

1281
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.279
<v Speaker 2>run potentially, he doesn't have big stolen base, but he

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01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have big anything potential. But he's a consistent producer.

1283
01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So I yeah, I like Danzby Swanson. Now you agree

1284
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.880
<v Speaker 2>with you too, Hey, put them ote in the trade

1285
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.520
<v Speaker 2>block and you'll get offered a fourth round pick in

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01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 2>your first year player draft.

1287
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.920
<v Speaker 1>You won't get anything. I've tried it. I've kept them

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01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:13.239
<v Speaker 1>all these years, and I'm like, okay, I get nobody

1289
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to give me anything good for him, but all right,

1290
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll keep them.

1291
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And we're at the end of the year. Does your

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01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.399
<v Speaker 2>team usually stand It's pretty good?

1293
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty much.

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01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Like if you decide to wait, why not a dance

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01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.520
<v Speaker 1>me Swanson and then you know, and the reserve rounds,

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01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you go with a Connor Griffin, or you go with

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01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a JJ Weatherholt, maybe even a Kevin McGonagall and say, okay,

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01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll go some as my bench slot wait for those

1300
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:43.279
<v Speaker 1>guys that you know, maybe I'll find somebody better than

1301
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.439
<v Speaker 1>dance Mey Swanson. But I waited, and I've got an

1302
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 1>upsolid guy sitting at short sup. What about a strategy

1303
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like that?

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01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 2>The problem with a strategy like that is you've got

1305
01:12:57.239 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 2>to be very cognizant of what's going on around you,

1306
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 2>because there could be three other teams that decided to

1307
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.960
<v Speaker 2>go late okay on the middle infield, and all of

1308
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, your plans for the twenty home runs and

1309
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the fifteen to twenty stolen bases are being fought over

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01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:14.520
<v Speaker 2>by three other people. If I was going to go

1311
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>with a strategy, and if they are being fought over,

1312
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that means two of you are going to get probably

1313
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:24.239
<v Speaker 2>a speed guy or a high risk bounce back candidate. Okay.

1314
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.319
<v Speaker 2>If I was going to look at Dansby, Swanson is

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01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:33.119
<v Speaker 2>my preferred option towards round he's going in what round ten?

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01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I would move him up around. Yeah, okay, just to

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01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.399
<v Speaker 2>ensure that I can make my plan work, because there's

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01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.359
<v Speaker 2>nothing worse than being than sitting in the tenth round.

1319
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 2>You've got a plan okay, and all of a sudden

1320
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at plan B. Okay, and that plan B

1321
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.000
<v Speaker 2>might not provide you with the overall results you're looking at. So,

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01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:56.760
<v Speaker 2>like I said, if I was looking at Swanson, I

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01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:58.840
<v Speaker 2>think he's a fine pick. I'd move him up around.

1324
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I get them so that my plan flows smoothly.

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01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Swanson and Baschett are kind of the cutoff

1326
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:08.600
<v Speaker 1>because things really change after that. Imping on a Lopez

1327
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Edwards lose Cavalleira, then you got some kids after that.

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01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Tovar is interesting, but all of a sudden you get

1329
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:20.239
<v Speaker 1>less complete players. Once you really decide to wait if

1330
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if that's your strategy.

1331
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the phrase falling off a cliff comes

1332
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 2>into play, like shortstop at the top. Okay, that top fifteen.

1333
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I know there's a better top fifteen in the game. Okay,

1334
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:38.680
<v Speaker 2>it is loaded with plenty of options, but then it does,

1335
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it does fall off a cliff. You're looking at speed guys.

1336
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:47.199
<v Speaker 2>You're looking at younger players players. You know, a guy

1337
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.720
<v Speaker 2>like Mason Wynn. He could be a top fifteen shortstop

1338
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:53.319
<v Speaker 2>next year if he's healthy and he produces to the

1339
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:57.039
<v Speaker 2>level of twenty twenty four. Okay, Cools Montgomery. If he

1340
01:14:57.079 --> 01:14:58.800
<v Speaker 2>hits forty home runs, where is he going to be

1341
01:14:58.800 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 2>sitting next year?

1342
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:02.800
<v Speaker 1>He also, he could also hit one ninety.

1343
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes he could. Oh yeah. They All of these picks

1344
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:14.720
<v Speaker 2>are not without their charms and their detriments. Okay. The

1345
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.319
<v Speaker 2>reason that I have the three stolen basic guys back

1346
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:20.039
<v Speaker 2>to back is because if I'm not going, if I'm

1347
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 2>not going with one of the top fifteen, it means

1348
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm going later on stolen bases, and I'll be looking

1349
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 2>at those three guys to show up my stolen base category.

1350
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 2>That's why I moved them up ahead of the NNBC.

1351
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 2>It's just a strategy play for the most part.

1352
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 1>We've already spent a lot of time already the day

1353
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 1>talking Connor Griffin and JJ Weatherholt, so we won't spend

1354
01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 1>time there. Jacob Wilson's coming in at twenty one, I mean,

1355
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:51.199
<v Speaker 1>batting average guy, a little bit more power than I

1356
01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.960
<v Speaker 1>thought he was going to have, But I'm not totally

1357
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.359
<v Speaker 1>buying that. Your thoughts as a middle infielder with Jacob Wilson.

1358
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you're getting average. That's all that I'm banking on

1359
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 2>from Jacob Wilson. Ten ten. That's ten ten with a

1360
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:15.479
<v Speaker 2>great betting average. I would like Jacob Wilson a lot

1361
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.119
<v Speaker 2>more if he was hitting in the two hole, and

1362
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 2>hopefully the A's at some point in time figure that

1363
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:23.399
<v Speaker 2>out and put him into the two hole, because I

1364
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 2>think that's where he belongs.

1365
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just everybody knows. Jacob wilson average ex of velocity

1366
01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:33.279
<v Speaker 1>last year eighty four point six worse than the league

1367
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:37.359
<v Speaker 1>eight point eight degree launch. That's a ground ball hitter.

1368
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 1>It's a guy. Yes, thirteen home runs could be a

1369
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 1>high watermark for him. I mean that's not a ton

1370
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:44.479
<v Speaker 1>of power.

1371
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you're counting on fourteen. I'll take the

1372
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:53.520
<v Speaker 2>under yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's not a bad layer.

1373
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.359
<v Speaker 2>You just have to know the limitations, okay, And would

1374
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I take again how much? How much you want to

1375
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.880
<v Speaker 2>pay for there's Luisa rise right there.

1376
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agree. And and look, Leo Leo DeVries, the

1377
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:13.239
<v Speaker 1>guy that got from the Padres. I haven't looked where

1378
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>he is on this list. You've finished the season a

1379
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 1>double A there. There's even odds that we see him

1380
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at some point next year. And that guy has a

1381
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 1>chance to be a superstar. And I don't think Jacob

1382
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Wilson is going to block him. Jacob Wilson might be

1383
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the better defender. He's a very good defender, but I

1384
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that would be my concern also about Jacob Wilson long term.

1385
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's I think it's I think it's

1386
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a good solid fare point. I didn't put Devares on

1387
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 2>simply because I don't think we see him this year interesting,

1388
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:49.720
<v Speaker 2>so I just left him, left him off the list.

1389
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>This is geared to current drafts and redrafts. It's not guaranteed.

1390
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.640
<v Speaker 2>If it was a dynasty draft, oh yeah, he'd be

1391
01:17:58.760 --> 01:17:59.800
<v Speaker 2>on this list for sure.

1392
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me just check. I don't wanna, don't want to

1393
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:09.279
<v Speaker 1>lie here. So dev Ice had one hundred and three

1394
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.119
<v Speaker 1>plate appearances in double A, so you could see him

1395
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in the second half.

1396
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, the second half is possible. Yes, yeah,

1397
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I'll agree.

1398
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh, okay, let's let's get back to my list here,

1399
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Tim's Tim's rankings. Uh, anything to say? Go ahead?

1400
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was just gonna say real quickly about Connor Griffin.

1401
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 2>The reason that I've got him hired in the NFBC

1402
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:36.720
<v Speaker 2>is that if I want this guy and I believe

1403
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:39.520
<v Speaker 2>in him, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take him

1404
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:43.560
<v Speaker 2>behind Tovar or Wilson or Montgomery. I'm gonna be aggressive

1405
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and make a move and take him somewhere between fifteen

1406
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.319
<v Speaker 2>and seventeen. I'm not saying I'm going to, but if

1407
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you want him, I think that's what you have to do.

1408
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 2>So how can you rank him lower than that?

1409
01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1410
01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's right.

1411
01:18:57.279 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Bogert sitting at twenty five used to be a

1412
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:02.680
<v Speaker 1>great just I mean, it's just you know, it's it's

1413
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>fifteen to fifteen kind of guy. It's interesting guy. If

1414
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you get called out on a shortstop.

1415
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 2>M hm, Yeah, I agree. Yeah, he's he is what

1416
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:15.359
<v Speaker 2>he is. He's going to give you ten to fifteen

1417
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 2>home runs, fifteen to twenty stolen base at two sixty

1418
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:22.039
<v Speaker 2>batting average. It's okay for a late option at middle infield.

1419
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:25.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not again, it's not going to hurt you. But

1420
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>dreaming of the days in Boston, No, that's that dream

1421
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 2>is coming gone.

1422
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And you've also got Kevin McGonagall. And we talked about

1423
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the other two big kids. Obviously, Kevin McGonagall can flat

1424
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out hit, and it looks like he has moved ahead

1425
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.199
<v Speaker 1>from and I mentioned this when we talked about the Tigers.

1426
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:49.520
<v Speaker 1>He's moved ahead on the on the depth chart from

1427
01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>getting up quicker than Max Clark. I'm not saying that

1428
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he's the better prospect, but there's a lot of indications

1429
01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>that we see a lot of Kevin McGonagall here in

1430
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:02.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six.

1431
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what amazes me is that when I look

1432
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 2>at his numbers at every stop along the way in

1433
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the minors, he's walked more than he's struck out. Like

1434
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:18.560
<v Speaker 2>we're not talking one or two, we're talking every single destination.

1435
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.600
<v Speaker 2>He has walked more than he's struck out. And last

1436
01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:25.039
<v Speaker 2>year there was a big spike in the power and

1437
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:28.239
<v Speaker 2>there's reason I think to be very, very excited about

1438
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Kevin mcgonagd's future in Detroit. Zach McKinstry will not hold

1439
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>him back or have your by it when Hey, when

1440
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 2>he's ready to get the call. Uh yeah, he's not

1441
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 2>up for a two week stint. He's up for a career.

1442
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.840
<v Speaker 1>My privilege of saying him in double A and it's

1443
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:50.039
<v Speaker 1>he's the real deal. I mean, this guy can disgreat

1444
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:53.920
<v Speaker 1>back control. I think there's gonna be power. It's not

1445
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna be thirty home run pop. But he's he's Once

1446
01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.640
<v Speaker 1>he gets a hold of something, he can hit it out.

1447
01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He's strong enough to hit it. But he's not looking

1448
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to yank things. He's looking to drive the ball and

1449
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to make contact. It's just the player he is, and

1450
01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:10.199
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't He just doesn't expand the strikes and

1451
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't swing at balls. And I think a player

1452
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>like that is instantly going to not nantiy. He should

1453
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>have a high chance of having some early success in

1454
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the major leagues from the get go.

1455
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Just because of his skill set.

1456
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it doesn't mean he will because lots of

1457
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.199
<v Speaker 1>people struggle. But you know, if you take a look

1458
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at all these young kids that come up, I would

1459
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be shocked if he gets sent down after a month

1460
01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:35.640
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't hit.

1461
01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that would be the last thing I would

1462
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:42.880
<v Speaker 2>expect as well. Rich. Yeah, yeah, he's got I think

1463
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:44.039
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be a great player.

1464
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And and and if you if you believe that Javier

1465
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Baias is going to be reincarnated to what is the

1466
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>four weeks he really good weeks he had last year,

1467
01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>then okay, then he gets left down. I just don't.

1468
01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Havier bias done. And I think it's Kevin mcconough.

1469
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:02.199
<v Speaker 1>It's you're just waiting for the time to get up,

1470
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:06.119
<v Speaker 1>called up, which will be May first, in my opinion, So.

1471
01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I like that call. I've got to have your bias

1472
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.199
<v Speaker 2>down forty eight, which is five spots worse than Yeah,

1473
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a very spot for him.

1474
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.119
<v Speaker 1>He had a bounce back to me and what was

1475
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it May And it looked looked like, wow, let's have

1476
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:22.079
<v Speaker 1>your bias doing and then he just fell off again.

1477
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:23.159
<v Speaker 1>So he just became happy.

1478
01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Mid Yeah, he was on waiver wires middle of June.

1479
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell me, let's take another break it back and

1480
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>start asking you the tough questions and ask for your

1481
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sleepers and all that kind of good stuff. So it's

1482
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. It back. Looks like the Buffalo

1483
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>phil Jaguars. I was hoping I was rooting for the Jaguars. Well,

1484
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess rooting for the Buffalo is toll because I

1485
01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.920
<v Speaker 1>want to see the Jacksonville Jaguars, one of the smallest

1486
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>cities in America that has a football team against another

1487
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>small city. I was looking for tiny city versus tiny city.

1488
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>But Jaguars got beat.

1489
01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, yeah, I would have been rooting for the

1490
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Bills simply because when I was young and a kid,

1491
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 2>with our American TV feed was Buffalo. Okay, so they

1492
01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:21.640
<v Speaker 2>provided me with all the cartoons. So I still have

1493
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a loyalty to Buffalo for that rich.

1494
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that about. I thought I knew everything.

1495
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.079
<v Speaker 1>I did not know. You get the Buffalo feed from I.

1496
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I went to Buffalo twice in my life.

1497
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1498
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>One time, I don't know how I got out, but

1499
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a blizzard coming and you could see it

1500
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.199
<v Speaker 1>coming and you're in the in the airport going I

1501
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>got to get out of here. I gotta get and

1502
01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:49.319
<v Speaker 1>somehow we took off, and the other time it was

1503
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in the summer, and it was absolutely beautiful, absolutely beautiful

1504
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo in the summertime.

1505
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they get the lake weather effect when it comes

1506
01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to winter storms and it's nothing for them to get

1507
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.920
<v Speaker 2>six feet snow dumped on them overnight. It's it's brutal.

1508
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen a place ever. Buffalo is in a

1509
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>league of their own when it comes to bad winter weather.

1510
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>It's it's insane, it really is.

1511
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:16.479
<v Speaker 1>If I recall that their football stadiums in downtown Buffalo,

1512
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and downtown Buffalo is pretty much the stadium in a

1513
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of other buildings and there's there's not much there.

1514
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>It is. It's impressive in terms of how dominant that

1515
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>stadium is downtown.

1516
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's uh, it's interesting. And occasionally the snowballs do

1517
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>rain from the from the crowd sections. Yeah, it's like

1518
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, it's when they get bad weather, it's stay

1519
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>at home, don't know, don't even consider going anywhere. You're

1520
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.039
<v Speaker 2>lucky you got out on that flight, or you still

1521
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>might be there, still.

1522
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Might be there. Yeah, okay, all right, Timmy, So why

1523
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>don't you bounce around here at the bottom so many

1524
01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>four or five players you're interested in, maybe some sleepers.

1525
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, at number thirty Josh Smith. Okay, Well,

1526
01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it looks like he's got a He's been a super

1527
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>stub in the for the for the Rangers for a

1528
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. But if you're looking for a guy

1529
01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:11.119
<v Speaker 2>to stash on your bench, if he happens to fall

1530
01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>into the reserve rounds, he's first base, shortstop, third, third base, second,

1531
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>He's got it all, okay, as far as eligibility, and

1532
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>there's some power and speed. So if I'm looking for

1533
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>injury protection, Josh Josh Smith has my has my attention.

1534
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's.

1535
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going to happen in Philadelphia, but

1536
01:25:34.840 --> 01:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching Aiden Miller very very closely.

1537
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it might be he might be blocked. I think

1538
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that's can he play again? He hasn't played the outfield yet.

1539
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I still think he could, but they haven't put him

1540
01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>out there yet.

1541
01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:50.319
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things I'm definitely going to be watching.

1542
01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Rich brooks Lee I won't touch with a ten football.

1543
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was curious. I've been eyeing him in our

1544
01:25:57.319 --> 01:26:00.439
<v Speaker 1>in this draft and whole league. Man, I can't I

1545
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:02.239
<v Speaker 1>can't get up the courage to even put him in

1546
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>my queue. I just everything I look at him, it's just.

1547
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Eh, well, what is brooks Lee going to do? Okay?

1548
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:15.840
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't run? Okay, so that leaves your power. Okay,

1549
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna hit fifteen home runs, maybe drive in sixty.

1550
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I just don't. There's nothing there that really excites me.

1551
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you go and you take a look at

1552
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the numbers over his you know, I think he's a

1553
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>fifteen home run, fifty RBI, low batting average type hitter,

1554
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:38.439
<v Speaker 2>and that I just don't. It just doesn't do anything

1555
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>for me, nothing at all.

1556
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Average ex velocity is eighty eight miles on an eighty

1557
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>eight point six thirteen degree launch angle. That's a fifteen

1558
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>home run guys. And with Thames right, there's no speed,

1559
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I thought he'd hit, but there's decent strikeout rates there,

1560
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 1>but he never walks. The approach is really aggressive for

1561
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>some reason, a lot more chasing his approach than I

1562
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>thought there'd be. He's just not as good of a

1563
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:03.319
<v Speaker 1>player as I thought he was going to become, particularly

1564
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a switch hitter. So I'm kind of with tim, and

1565
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there's just nothing that I don't see any upside there.

1566
01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple, couple of young kids. I'll be watching

1567
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>close there, Cooper Pratt and Sebastian Walcott. The upside is

1568
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>such that I think they deserve to be washed watched,

1569
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm willing to bet that at some point

1570
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.279
<v Speaker 2>in time both those players will make a waiverwear article

1571
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>of mine this season. I do.

1572
01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you for some reason this season, I'm

1573
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:44.039
<v Speaker 1>very intrigued by Carson Williams. He's totally forgotten about this guy,

1574
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>speed and powery, can't hit, but he's a great defender.

1575
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the Rays give him a long look this season.

1576
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:56.079
<v Speaker 1>And maybe because he hits the ball hard, maybe has

1577
01:27:56.119 --> 01:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a three forty Babbitt hits two sixty and oh overplays

1578
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>where he's going. I find him intriguing this year.

1579
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I agree totally.

1580
01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, And and I think it's criminal that

1581
01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you've got Colt Emerson behind how your bias. I'll just

1582
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>look at that as a as a honest mistake. You

1583
01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you you've fumbled something there. But I think Colt Emerson,

1584
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a guy that we could see up

1585
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at some point this season.

1586
01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it's yeah, it's no. Yeah, I'm just not

1587
01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not overly enamored with gold Emerson. Oh my gosh,

1588
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:42.039
<v Speaker 2>why yeah, I why uh? I took a look at

1589
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>his numbers and I just yeah, yeah.

1590
01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I write all these words. You don't read my book.

1591
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>All you do is look at minor league stats, and

1592
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that's all stuff. Well, and but if you want to

1593
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>look sixteen humb runs, fourteen stolen bases last year, seventeen

1594
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:01.479
<v Speaker 1>percent strikeout rate, twelve percent walk great to eighty five

1595
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:04.399
<v Speaker 1>batting average, three D three on base percentage. What do

1596
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you want, McCloud.

1597
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 2>I want JP Crawford to not be on the roster.

1598
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's cold Cold Emerson finished last week and Triple

1599
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>A will start the season At Triple A. I think

1600
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>he is the guy of the future, can play shortstop,

1601
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>second base, so there's lots of spots, particularly if you

1602
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:28.359
<v Speaker 1>don't believe and Cole Young Cole youngs are playing third.

1603
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, just I think Cold Emerson's the better

1604
01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:34.039
<v Speaker 1>version of that guy.

1605
01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not. I'm not huge on either one, to

1606
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, Wow, No, I'm just not. I

1607
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have visions of Jared Kellnick dance

1608
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.079
<v Speaker 2>in my head. I'm probably way off base. But I

1609
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>just I have trouble with both those players.

1610
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I really do well. Randy Roseren has played well there.

1611
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Kyl Riley has been a superstar there. Julio Rodriguez has

1612
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.439
<v Speaker 1>been a superstar there. Snayler was good last. So it's

1613
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like it, there are players that play well in Seattle.

1614
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Colt Emerson has a chance to

1615
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 1>be that guy. I think you're wrong, mister McLeod.

1616
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I could very well be. But I look at the

1617
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.319
<v Speaker 2>other side of the coin, Dominic Ken Zone, Victor Roubles,

1618
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Ben Williamson. I I just to me, it's the stars

1619
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>in scrubs mentality right now in Seattle and stars.

1620
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think Emerson could be one of those stars. Okay,

1621
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>give me a guy, give me a guy in the

1622
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>top ten. I know this is hard, and to me

1623
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's this is an easy one. But you say, all

1624
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.079
<v Speaker 1>these guys are really good, there's an easy guy that

1625
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.399
<v Speaker 1>should not be in the top ten, who's not going

1626
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to be in the top ten this time next year,

1627
01:30:50.239 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and who replaces him? Both easy answers both Mookie wow, wow,

1628
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 1>yeah wow. The answer would that's right. But Mookie Betts

1629
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a bull. But he gets replaced by there's only

1630
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>one answer here.

1631
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Tom uh Well, yeah, Griffin exactly.

1632
01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it will be the case.

1633
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:26.119
<v Speaker 2>That's the hope, that's exactly the hope. Or you could

1634
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>throw JJ Weatherholt in there as well.

1635
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I don't think he's going to be

1636
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>shortstop eligible. That's that's just it.

1637
01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:33.199
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

1638
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless when it may. I mean Kevin mcdonagall, I

1639
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>mean there's a chance, but how much he hits that

1640
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he could jump up to be a top twelve guy.

1641
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the fantasy tools are going to

1642
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>be enough there that he's going to blow you away.

1643
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>But Connor Griffin could be a monster.

1644
01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The only reason that to say the top ten

1645
01:31:56.239 --> 01:32:02.239
<v Speaker 2>is loaded. Okay, it's got to be, you know, like

1646
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Trevor's story is is an obvious back Okay, if he

1647
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:06.439
<v Speaker 2>doesn't do it, if he did what he did in

1648
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the first three years in Boston, Yeah, he's not going

1649
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:13.199
<v Speaker 2>to be top twenty five. But today we have to assume,

1650
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:17.039
<v Speaker 2>at least I am, that he will. Okay, So there's

1651
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>not much movement in the top fifteen, is there really?

1652
01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.399
<v Speaker 2>When you take a look at it, even going down

1653
01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>to the top twenty. There's not much movement.

1654
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Trevor's story won't be in this list because

1655
01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>he's hurt. We saw what a healthy Trevor story can do.

1656
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Now history would say he's going to get hurt, so right,

1657
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:41.479
<v Speaker 1>but the skills look like they're still there.

1658
01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Byron Buxton. Okay, Yeah, I didn't have

1659
01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Mind any teams last year, but I also didn't have

1660
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:51.399
<v Speaker 2>any him on any teams for the six years before that. Right,

1661
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll give up my I'll give up breaking right, so

1662
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on a good Byron bucks in year, so I don't

1663
01:32:56.960 --> 01:32:59.439
<v Speaker 2>have to pull with little hair I have left out

1664
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 2>in the in the five before that, right.

1665
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>So give me Besides beside Condi Griffin, give me two

1666
01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>other guys that you just feel like are going to

1667
01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:12.359
<v Speaker 1>jump way up on this list next season.

1668
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Way up on this list next year. Ezekiel Oltova, I

1669
01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>still believe and Mason Win I still believe.

1670
01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I still believe in Anthony Volpi. I still believe in

1671
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I think we see a recovery there.

1672
01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm taking the opposite. I'm yeah, You're down,

1673
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm down, Yeah I am. I think a combination of

1674
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the defense and the hit tool. I think it's a problem.

1675
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.199
<v Speaker 1>I will agree he should not be I never thought

1676
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he'd be at shortstop. But and maybe that's his undoing

1677
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in in New York. He's got to play shortstop because

1678
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he's They've got other players better than him at the

1679
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>other spots. But data still says he's a good player.

1680
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm still going on that.

1681
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, no, then again, yeah, Anthony Will he could

1682
01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>be a top fifteen player a short stop, or he

1683
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.399
<v Speaker 2>could be off this list somewhere down around thirty five

1684
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:17.479
<v Speaker 2>to forty. Yeah, wide range of votes, wide range of

1685
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>vote oak clumbs. You want a boring player, or Anie Clement,

1686
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a nice boring player for it.

1687
01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:24.159
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely I would agree with you.

1688
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eligible all over the place. But if you want

1689
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>a guy to cover off for injuries, you could do

1690
01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:36.760
<v Speaker 2>much worse. He's he's sort of in the Josh Smith

1691
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>sort of range of players for me, and he being

1692
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>drafted in and about the same area. Actually probably a

1693
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>little overdrafted right now.

1694
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.199
<v Speaker 1>The one player that could shock us all on this

1695
01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>on this list, and depending on how things shake out,

1696
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>is Aiden Miller. It's a really exciting player. If Trey

1697
01:34:56.119 --> 01:35:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Turner gets hurt in May? God, got it? Did that

1698
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 1>he gets hurt in May? There's always a possibility, and

1699
01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>they decide to bring him up. You could see how

1700
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>good this kid really is going to be.

1701
01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and there's no guarantees at Crawford or you know,

1702
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the outfielders. Hey, if we see if we see Aiden

1703
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Miller playing in the first week of the minor league season,

1704
01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:23.359
<v Speaker 2>if we see him playing in the outfield, yep, yeah,

1705
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>that changes things rather drastically.

1706
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Does he buckle up? Yeah? I mean yeah, because yeah,

1707
01:35:29.920 --> 01:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and to me that that's where the opportunity in Philadelphia

1708
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>is for him. But I again, I get all these

1709
01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>players confused. I think he has never played the outfield.

1710
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's played anything but shortstop.

1711
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, again, definitely something for our listeners to be

1712
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>tracking as we as we head into the first couple

1713
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>of weeks of the season and spring training for that matter. Right.

1714
01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they got a Dolos Garcia now on

1715
01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the outfield, and justin Crawford really good defender. So he's

1716
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.199
<v Speaker 1>an interesting guy city in center field. I know you

1717
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>like him a lot. I'm still on the Gabriel Rincones

1718
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>uh Band Wacos nobody's thinking about him. But uh, I

1719
01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just think that Aiden Miller's is a good player. Maybe

1720
01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Alec Boum is the is the odd man out Aiden

1721
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Miller gets a shot at third base.

1722
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's entirely it's entirely possible. When you when you

1723
01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:28.479
<v Speaker 2>look at when you look at Philly, Okay, I Alec

1724
01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Bohm's starting to cost him some serious cash. Okay, and

1725
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:37.479
<v Speaker 2>other than the one year, have we seen serious numbers

1726
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:41.119
<v Speaker 2>from Alec Bohm? I I don't think we. I don't

1727
01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>think we have a Dollus Garcia definitely, I you know,

1728
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:48.199
<v Speaker 2>we get to the outfield, I think bounce back potentials

1729
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>there with Garcia. I'm still interested in him. But if

1730
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you start looking at you know, you're you start looking

1731
01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:58.279
<v Speaker 2>from you know, you got Turner, Swarburn, Harper. After that

1732
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you get Boom, you got Marsh, Garcia, Prasin starts. Okay,

1733
01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you got no catcher, and you got Justin Crawford penciled

1734
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>into the oatfield. There's help, there's some question marks, and

1735
01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:16.079
<v Speaker 2>to address some of those needs, we might see some

1736
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:18.439
<v Speaker 2>players moving around a little bit, right.

1737
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean Brandon Marsh is interesting. Guy's a good

1738
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>outfielder of defensive outfielder, but he has never kind of

1739
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>done what all the data says he should, and at

1740
01:37:29.960 --> 01:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>some point it's just not going to happen. And I'm

1741
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>surprised he's still an option there. But more than getting

1742
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:39.119
<v Speaker 1>back to Davean Miller, I'm shocked that he's that he's

1743
01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>not played anywhere else but shortstop. It just makes no

1744
01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>sense to me. And maybe we finally see him start

1745
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to move around to some other positions because he's not

1746
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>going to replace Trey Turner. I mean, Trey Turner is

1747
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.199
<v Speaker 1>a superstar. He's not going to replace Tray Turner. I

1748
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they're thinking.

1749
01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>And he signed to a lifetime contract.

1750
01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, yeah, it's what what are they doing? Tim? Yeah,

1751
01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the best players in the minor league, stuck

1752
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>behind the best players in the major league. What are

1753
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Earth to Philly?

1754
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's something missing in that equation. Yeah, definitely is. Yeah.

1755
01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't get well, I don't get a lot of things.

1756
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>End me, take a final break, get back, and let's

1757
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:24.039
<v Speaker 1>wrap this puppy up.

1758
01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

1759
01:38:35.119 --> 01:38:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Hour for minute podcasts.

1760
01:38:37.079 --> 01:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Gotta be happy, I would hope. So, Yeah, as long

1761
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:46.079
<v Speaker 2>as they're not rooting for Anthony will Be and Isaiah

1762
01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>kiner Fall. Things should be good.

1763
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think I think we gave the listeners a

1764
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>lot to think about. If you disagree on some some

1765
01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>positions what always think as healthy, which is good? It so,

1766
01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>but we h we agreed on some things as well. Timmy,

1767
01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>any final comments on shortstop before we wrap it up. H.

1768
01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I think my thoughts are really well known. I think

1769
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:13.439
<v Speaker 2>you take what the position gives you at the at

1770
01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:18.439
<v Speaker 2>the top end, and if you decide to play that

1771
01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:23.279
<v Speaker 2>middle game, just be very cognizant of what can happen

1772
01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and how quickly it can happen if you're playing the

1773
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:33.039
<v Speaker 2>middle game. I know one of my targets, I'm three

1774
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>spots ahead of the NFBC. If I'm playing that middle game,

1775
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Connor Griffin or JJ Weatherhold has to enter into the equation.

1776
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>At least for me, I'm gonna go if I'm gonna

1777
01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:48.399
<v Speaker 2>go risk, I'm I'm not going halfway. I'm going all

1778
01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the way on it, and I don't think that's the

1779
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:51.600
<v Speaker 2>way I'll be playing it.

1780
01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Connor Griffin would definitely be all the way in on

1781
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:57.039
<v Speaker 1>the risk given the team, given how little he's played

1782
01:39:57.039 --> 01:40:00.119
<v Speaker 1>in the minor leagues, but it's it's a to a

1783
01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>risk reward because he could be a monster. That's that's

1784
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it so that.

1785
01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>The numbers last year they were just sick the.

1786
01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Best player in the minor league.

1787
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs at every level. Yeah, okay, that'll work.

1788
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that's a little concerning, though, is he's

1789
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>never hit a speed bump. Never, and that rarely, rarely happens.

1790
01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:28.079
<v Speaker 1>He hit a speed bump somewhere, and.

1791
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>It could even Mike dro did one.

1792
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's so, I mean just and it given

1793
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>how quickly he's gone, that means that speed bump is

1794
01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>could be the first month of the season and he's

1795
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in the big leagues and hopefully Pittsburgh has got enough

1796
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.479
<v Speaker 1>sense to just help him let him play through it. So.

1797
01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh so we'll see good stuff, Tommy. So what's on

1798
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>tap for this week? Do you have any drafts coming up?

1799
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1800
01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:57.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I've got I got nothing, no drafts coming up.

1801
01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna sit back. I think I've got four

1802
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>days off in a row. Considering I've worked twelve with

1803
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the past thirteen days, I'm going to enjoy those four

1804
01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:11.199
<v Speaker 2>days and plug away at third base and get it

1805
01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:16.680
<v Speaker 2>ready to roll for next weekend, maybe even early, which

1806
01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>would be shocking by my standards, but no other than

1807
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>third base, so.

1808
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Early would be would be two fifteen forty five minutes

1809
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>for our show as opposed to two thirty. Is that

1810
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying.

1811
01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I was looking. I was looking more. I'm going to

1812
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:37.439
<v Speaker 2>live on the edge and make a full protection for

1813
01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:38.399
<v Speaker 2>next week.

1814
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I had everything. That's funny. I looked at a little

1815
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:42.399
<v Speaker 1>bit behind the scenes that everything set up. As soon

1816
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>as Tim gave me the stuff. It was literally just

1817
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:47.199
<v Speaker 1>copy and paste and throw it in there, and all

1818
01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the calculations worked on a spreadsheet. I was ready to

1819
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>go ten minutes after Tim gave it to me. He said, hey,

1820
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:57.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll get going a little bit early. Here Tim was lollygagging,

1821
01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>drinking coffee, taking a shower, probably to good nap.

1822
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>When I was when you called, I was in the shower.

1823
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:06.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing. Good thing. I didn't have my

1824
01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>phone plugged.

1825
01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Were in the shower.

1826
01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I was in the shower. I retarted the shower to

1827
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>grab my phone for you. Rich Okay, I don't do that.

1828
01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's t m I Timmy, I do not want

1829
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to know you were texting me while make it. I don't.

1830
01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>The scarrs.

1831
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Is bad man. You don't need that, all right, Timmy,

1832
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next week. We also got to do

1833
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>we also got to do a Prospect podcast, so we

1834
01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>are we gotta we gotta squeeze that in. Might have

1835
01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to change the we have to actually uh getting this

1836
01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>tough to me early. You might have to move it

1837
01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>up an hour early next week. I have to go

1838
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to a wedding, shower, maybe a wedding. I don't know

1839
01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:54.079
<v Speaker 1>if it's a shower, wedding, I don't know what it is.

1840
01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>One of my wife's book club friends, I think she's

1841
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>seventy five years old, is getting married, Timmy. So that's awesome.

1842
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Seventy five years old getting married. I'm all in, so

1843
01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. So I met her. She seems like

1844
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:09.079
<v Speaker 1>a lovely person, so so definitely want to catch that.

1845
01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:13.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, great happiness can come at any age, my friend,

1846
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>be safe, you will and we'll catch a later in

1847
01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the week.