Speaker 1: Is Jack Lawson Civil Defense Manual dot Com. I want
Speaker 1: to get Jack on because this is right down his alley.
Speaker 1: This is what he's been warning people about, telling people
Speaker 1: how they need to prepare. Look, we don't know what
Speaker 1: form it's going to come, but you know, it can
Speaker 1: be a natural disaster, it can be a man made disaster.
Speaker 1: It can be a geoengineered It can be a war
Speaker 1: that they provoke or a war that somebody else does,
Speaker 1: a terrorist or whatever. Still going to be the same
Speaker 1: basic things that you have to prepare for. And that's
Speaker 1: why he wrote Civil Defense Manual. You can find this
Speaker 1: at Civil Defensemanual dot com. Two volumes. He's got it
Speaker 1: in paper because as we've seen, your power is going
Speaker 1: to go down, your Internet's going to go down. You
Speaker 1: need to be able to have access to this stuff.
Speaker 1: But you can go to Civil Defensemanual dot com. You
Speaker 1: can see, as I was just saying, his chapters on water,
Speaker 1: he's got some other ones on some other issues like
Speaker 1: if you survive a nuclear blast, what do you do
Speaker 1: afterwards to prepare? So there's some free chapters. You can
Speaker 1: see how thorough this is. But again, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get Jack on to talk about this because we've been
Speaker 1: talking about this kind of possibility for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Jack.
Speaker 2: I'm always happy to be in your show. David, thank
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 1: Tell us you know from your position what you think
Speaker 1: about how this stuff is rolling out. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: the number one thing that everybody needs is water. They said, ironically,
Speaker 1: there's no drinkable water, and the government's not getting of
Speaker 1: that stuff in there to them. But give us your
Speaker 1: take on this, and you know, as you're watching this
Speaker 1: from a distance, Oh.
Speaker 2: It goes back decades. Five decades ago, there was a
Speaker 2: damn break I think it was in Wyoming or Idaho,
Speaker 2: and by the time FEMA started coming in, the locals
Speaker 2: had gotten together with their churches and they'd taken care
Speaker 2: of everything. They literally did not need them. That a prophecy.
Speaker 2: It is worse now because they are more and more
Speaker 2: involved with the complexities of technology that don't function. And
Speaker 2: for an organization that's supposed to have been the recipient
Speaker 2: of the of civil defense in the United States, you
Speaker 2: can see what their capability is. They can't tie their
Speaker 2: own shoes. Oh yeah, I'm furious to see them talk
Speaker 2: about we're doing all we can do yet they gave
Speaker 2: I just read something this morning, seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: million dollars given to North or South Carolina. Can't remember
Speaker 2: what it was for illegals. This this is beyond madness.
Speaker 1: But well, let's just tell this. Last week you got
Speaker 1: Biden saying, yeah, we're gonna do another couple of billion
Speaker 1: dollars to Ukraine. I think it was in the Laala
Speaker 1: says one hundred and fifty million to Lebanon, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and missiles for everybody. Everybody kill each other.
Speaker 1: Come on the Scott mean, these people are just insane.
Speaker 1: They want death, they want chaos, they want it everywhere.
Speaker 1: I got a listener, do not obey said they're giving
Speaker 1: eight hundred ninety four dollars per household. I mean i'd
Speaker 1: heard seven to fifty, but maybe they bit it up
Speaker 1: a little bit. Really going to blurge.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm understanding that's a loan against property if
Speaker 2: you have property. Oh okay, track right now. Eight hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty seven million dollars per Lebanon. They should make
Speaker 2: a bumper sticker for all these congress people got missiles.
Speaker 1: Question Mark, Well, you know it's interesting you're talking about that. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll give you eight hundred ninety four dollars per household.
Speaker 1: What an insult that is. And yet you know they
Speaker 1: may use that as a loan, as a lean against
Speaker 1: your property. Folks, the thirty five trillion dollars there, that's
Speaker 1: a lean against your property. That deficit that's there, that's
Speaker 1: a big lean against your property. And they're working on
Speaker 1: how they can enforce that with a great taking, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's all the stuff that comes back down.
Speaker 2: That they'll take. The four oh one, all the retirement
Speaker 2: people have got, well, you owe us the money. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's beyond stupid. I don't think an eight year
Speaker 2: old child would show the responsibility level that these people
Speaker 2: in FEMA are showing. Everybody can criticize, but I can
Speaker 2: tell you one thing. They'll be very uh, there'll be
Speaker 2: a very loud silence if anything happens like I predicted
Speaker 2: in my book good in a blog, not that I'm
Speaker 2: the great Swami and I grabbed my head and I've
Speaker 2: got an epiphany coming. You know, I'm seeing the lighter.
Speaker 2: I'm a profit or anything like that. The uh, the
Speaker 2: simple thing is to read history. You think your government's
Speaker 2: going to help you. He apparently failed history class. You know,
Speaker 2: it's terrible what happened in the present day Ukraine. The
Speaker 2: Soviets did literally the same thing. They ratcheted it up
Speaker 2: because of the farm landowners there and they wanted to
Speaker 2: get rid of them. Somewhere between two and a half
Speaker 2: and twelve and a half million people were literally starved
Speaker 2: to death. They surrounded the whole area, They went in,
Speaker 2: took all livestock, destroyed everyone's garden, and they literally starved
Speaker 2: people to death. Now that is not this, but it's
Speaker 2: not far from it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, and this is happening. We got the EPI
Speaker 1: covered earlier, Jack. The EPA has got a whole new
Speaker 1: set of rules and they're going to use that to
Speaker 1: start shutting down poultry and meat processing plants. They are
Speaker 1: so motion doing a holomodore to us as we talk.
Speaker 1: They first they come after the cars, they come after appliances,
Speaker 1: they come after the electric grid. You know this last
Speaker 1: year they started putting emission standards on power stations and
Speaker 1: shutting them down. Now they're going to start shutting down
Speaker 1: food plans. After they've had this phony bird flu pandemic
Speaker 1: that they're addressing. And when you look at what we
Speaker 1: look at what is happening in the UK. They under
Speaker 1: the pretense of bird flu, they're having everybody register all
Speaker 1: of their chickens and all of their birds. I mean
Speaker 1: even if you've got one pet bird. They've defined now
Speaker 1: a flock equals one bird, and if you've got a
Speaker 1: single bird, you've got a register with it, and they
Speaker 1: want to They've got the World Economic Form is funding
Speaker 1: research to tell everybody that homegrown food is going as
Speaker 1: one of our major sources of unicorn farts and we've
Speaker 1: got to shut that down. It is rolling across. Everything
Speaker 1: the government is doing is designed to take away our
Speaker 1: food supply, our mobility, our prosperity. It's all about austerity
Speaker 1: and slavery. It's just amazing to watch this kind of
Speaker 1: in slow motion, iteratively rolling out.
Speaker 2: David, you know, I think the average person I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm preaching to the choir all the time. There's
Speaker 2: a guy put a very interesting article, its four points
Speaker 2: to it, and this is what people do in their
Speaker 2: denial reasoning. Now, maybe the people listening to you are
Speaker 2: going to do something, but the vast number of Americans
Speaker 2: and they usually have something like this going through their head.
Speaker 2: A it won't happen. Whatever it is, anything like this hurricane. Yeah,
Speaker 2: anything like power outages, roads destroyed, whole areas destroyed or b.
Speaker 2: It's going to happen, but not to me. And that's
Speaker 2: I've been in the middle of this stuff. I've seen this,
Speaker 2: so I know what it's like to be in the
Speaker 2: middle of it, and that that has a big impact
Speaker 2: on you. See, it's going to happen to me, but
Speaker 2: it won't be all that bad. Now, there's there's probabilities
Speaker 2: in all of these, but the last one, d is
Speaker 2: it happened to me, but there was nothing I could
Speaker 2: have done about it anyway. Now that's a defeated stattitude
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Uh. People people need to understand and
Speaker 2: they're understanding it in that area, all of those areas
Speaker 2: of appalation. They're understanding right now that the first thing
Speaker 2: they need to do is have water. Water. You can
Speaker 2: get along first three weeks without food, possibly, but three
Speaker 2: days four days, depending on how much you're exerting yourself
Speaker 2: without water, and you've got a real problem. Now the
Speaker 2: people think, oh, well, there's raining cats and dogs around there.
Speaker 2: That's not pottable water, that's not safe to drink, and
Speaker 2: once people consume that, they're going to find out very
Speaker 2: quickly what I say in the book, You're going to
Speaker 2: go from uh, feeling okay to to the worst case
Speaker 2: of flu, upset stomach you've ever had. So So water
Speaker 2: is important, Food's important, but people seem to deny that
Speaker 2: this stuff can happen to I am convinced that the
Speaker 2: worst enemy we have in the United States is our
Speaker 2: very own present government.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've said that all the way.
Speaker 2: Things.
Speaker 1: Why they took me down on a Vimeo because I've
Speaker 1: been saying this all this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is there's more of that coming too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's unfortunate. They need to get rid
Speaker 2: of three fourths of this bureaucracy. It's just absolutely all
Speaker 2: they've got. They've got this finger that is bent, that
Speaker 2: is used to holding coffee cups. They do nothing. I
Speaker 2: see it in my local level where I live, and
Speaker 2: it's it's uh, it's very frustrating. But that's people.
Speaker 1: I tell you, Handy, who is a I had a
Speaker 1: guy that we've been we've been talking to him and
Speaker 1: I think he's got a substepe and his name is
Speaker 1: Handy and he's an ems, and he was showing up
Speaker 1: pictures of the job offerings eighty one hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 1: And he said, they're sitting around and stand by in
Speaker 1: a hotel room right now earning eighty one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: a week.
Speaker 2: It's just just antenty of money. It all comes from us,
Speaker 2: that's right. It's very very unfortunate that people look at
Speaker 2: this as being something that can't happen to him. I'll
Speaker 2: guarantee you people in those areas now know what is
Speaker 2: a common thing that goes on in the prepper. It's
Speaker 2: a common statement. You are on your own, that's right.
Speaker 2: And you are on your own, that's right. So you
Speaker 2: need to take care of your family and yourself and
Speaker 2: uh and you.
Speaker 1: And your neighbors. And again, you know, this is another
Speaker 1: example of what you talk about in your book, how
Speaker 1: you need to have a community, because you know, you
Speaker 1: could have had even the people this couple that was stranded.
Speaker 1: Helicopter pilot came in, was going to take them, you know,
Speaker 1: one at a time is all he could do. And
Speaker 1: then the fire chief polls rank on him, says I'm
Speaker 1: going to get you arrested if you go back there
Speaker 1: to have it left the husband back, but they were
Speaker 1: talking about it after some volunteers in Michigan went down
Speaker 1: and rescued him at great risk to him, dragging him
Speaker 1: across the river that was raging with all kinds of
Speaker 1: debris in it, because that guy wouldn't allow the helicopter
Speaker 1: to go get him. But he said, you know, we
Speaker 1: were up high and we're watching all this stuff happen,
Speaker 1: and we didn't think it was going to get to us.
Speaker 1: But what happened was the house that they had a
Speaker 1: high elevation and it was not even in the path
Speaker 1: of the flood and everything, but there's so much rain
Speaker 1: that it slid down the hill. The house slid down
Speaker 1: the hill, and so that was it. So this type
Speaker 1: of thing could happen to people. You know, even if
Speaker 1: you build your house up high on a hill, you
Speaker 1: can have a tree fall on it, it can slide down.
Speaker 1: In that particular case, you need to have neighbors that
Speaker 1: you know that are going to be able to help you.
Speaker 1: And everybody needs to be prepping for this type of thing.
Speaker 1: And so let me let me just throw this out
Speaker 1: to you and see if you've got any ideas, because
Speaker 1: I don't have any ideas what I would say to
Speaker 1: this woman as we're looking at this new hurricane that
Speaker 1: is headed towards Tampa. She put this up. She said,
Speaker 1: on a living Sarasota, which is in the direct path
Speaker 1: of Hurricane Milton, they're evacuating my town, but there's no
Speaker 1: gas left to evacuate, and traffic is so bad that
Speaker 1: it could be more dangerous to try to evacuate at
Speaker 1: this point. In other words, might get stuck or seeing
Speaker 1: gridlock with people trying to get out of that area.
Speaker 1: So she said, so, what would you do if you
Speaker 1: were me? I guess we could back up and we say, well,
Speaker 1: there's some things that she could have done in preparation,
Speaker 1: But I don't know at this point, you got any
Speaker 1: idea you know what she could do? I really don't
Speaker 1: when I look at it.
Speaker 2: That's a difficult thing. That's why I'm not a hurricane expert.
Speaker 2: I knew guys and I was in the service that
Speaker 2: would tell about buying a case of beer and riding
Speaker 2: around a convertible when their hurricane party, whatever whatever craziness
Speaker 2: that led to.
Speaker 1: But I grew up in Florida. We'd always we were
Speaker 1: just kind of laugh it off for the most part,
Speaker 1: because so many times the weather people hype it up
Speaker 1: way worse than it is. And then it became a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, when FEMA came around in nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 1: it started to get to the point where a lot
Speaker 1: of people looked at this and said, well, I can evacuate,
Speaker 1: but I know what FEMA's going to do after I
Speaker 1: leave my property won't let me back in, and so
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay here and just board it up
Speaker 1: and try to write it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's actually caused people to make some bad decisions,
Speaker 1: I think because of their bureaucracy.
Speaker 2: I do have I did talk to a friend of
Speaker 2: mine who lives down there, and he gave me pointers
Speaker 2: on it. I do have a section in the book
Speaker 2: on people think it's all for a doom and gloom
Speaker 2: apocalyptic situation. It's not. I've got common issues that people
Speaker 2: can deal with, one of which is hurricane. I'm no
Speaker 2: expert on it. I don't know exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: But I talked to Matt Bracken, who's another author, and
Speaker 2: I ask him about what what do I put in
Speaker 2: this thing? And he basically told me, and so I
Speaker 2: have in the book. I have situations on the first
Speaker 2: thing you do, turn your natural gas off, throw the
Speaker 2: breakers off. There are situations that can happen if you
Speaker 2: don't do these things, that can blow your house to
Speaker 2: smotherings even though you've got a raging wind outside. And
Speaker 2: basically preparations for getting like this lady needs to do,
Speaker 2: getting together in an interior room and honkering down. Yep,
Speaker 2: get all the food, Get all the pottable water, pottable
Speaker 2: being drinkable, safe water, get it in five gallon buckets
Speaker 2: if you have to bring a bucket in for a toilet,
Speaker 2: and get into an interior room and stay away from
Speaker 2: glass windows. Yeah, and this stuff is in there. It's
Speaker 2: common sense stuff. But people forget this stuff when it
Speaker 2: gets to be an emergency.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people wouldn't think about turning off
Speaker 1: the natural gas and turning off the electricity. That's really important.
Speaker 1: And that's why, I mean, that's the value of your book.
Speaker 1: It's very very thorough in terms talking about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: what we we never did any of that stuff when
Speaker 1: I was in Florida, but you know what we are.
Speaker 1: Our preparation would be, you know, putting up boards over
Speaker 1: windows and filling up the bathtub with water, so we'd
Speaker 1: have something that, you know, we could drink and clean
Speaker 1: the bathtub of course, and then fill up the water.
Speaker 1: But you know that type of thing, and so you know,
Speaker 1: but that's even more important turning off the power, turning
Speaker 1: off the natural gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been I'm from Minnesota. I don't know
Speaker 2: what you said later early on, but somebody got really
Speaker 2: ticked off about Minnesota. They're saying they weren't all liberal,
Speaker 2: while they are in all liberal. That's my birth state. However,
Speaker 2: they've let this get totally out of control, and they
Speaker 2: don't They can't go criticizing other people too much because
Speaker 2: I know firsthand what goes on that state. But the
Speaker 2: bottom line is a Minnesota is tornado country. And I've
Speaker 2: been through a mini hurricane, which is a tornado. I
Speaker 2: didn't shut gas off, and I did throw electric off,
Speaker 2: but it was literally shaking the building that I was
Speaker 2: with then that was a mile away, and it destroyed
Speaker 2: crops I farmed at that time, and I had a
Speaker 2: soybean field that got flattened. And so I'm somewhat used
Speaker 2: to what a freaky situation of nature, but that lady
Speaker 2: needs to get together with her neighbors. If she hasn't
Speaker 2: done it now, you know, hey, if you can walk outside,
Speaker 2: go door to door and talk to your neighbors. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people need to be's run food store, water and as
Speaker 2: I advocate in a book, get together and organize your neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You have nobody coming to help you.
Speaker 1: You read in a story, Yeah, that wan who just
Speaker 1: wrote it in the saying and she's in Sarah. So
Speaker 1: that's another good piece of advice. I mean, if she's
Speaker 1: going to have to stick it out because she doesn't
Speaker 1: have the gasket out, she's worried that she's going to
Speaker 1: get stuck on the road, go over and talk to
Speaker 1: your neighbors. You know, maybe they've got some ideas, maybe
Speaker 1: they got something they can help, but at least they
Speaker 1: need to know that you're in that house. It's not vacant,
Speaker 1: and you know that they're in that house, so that
Speaker 1: you can got each other's back in case the tree
Speaker 1: falls on one of the houses or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a very important piece of advice for
Speaker 1: them to think about that. But again, you know, not
Speaker 1: to go through this stuff alone. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the key things you really emphasize in civil Defense Manual
Speaker 1: is to know your neighbors and to have each other's
Speaker 1: backs for things like this, because you never know, you
Speaker 1: know which else the tree is going to fall on,
Speaker 1: for example, you know, well.
Speaker 2: I also advocate I've got a chapter in my book
Speaker 2: written by one of the foremost authorities on radio communications
Speaker 2: that I've been able to find. Here's a Ford observer
Speaker 2: in the Army, quite the character Ford observer in Afghanistan
Speaker 2: out by his lonesome with a set of binoculars in
Speaker 2: a radio and you know, being in a reconnaissance unit.
Speaker 2: And I advocate that people set a radio network up.
Speaker 2: Radios are cheap. You can buy ball fan radios which
Speaker 2: are functional for this purpose. They're not the best, but
Speaker 2: have a radio network. While a storm is raging, it's
Speaker 2: not going to interrupt your radios unless you're talking through
Speaker 2: a repeater. Baffanger radios are probably good up to half
Speaker 2: a mile for sure, depending on the terrain. But get
Speaker 2: a radio network together and talk to your neighbors. I'm
Speaker 2: astounded that people in Florida don't all have neighborhood radio groups.
Speaker 2: We have them where I live. We've we've got one
Speaker 2: group fifty eight people, got another group of seventeen people,
Speaker 2: and we do a radio check in and we do
Speaker 2: some talking on the radio, so if something happens, we
Speaker 2: get hold of each other. And the long and short
Speaker 2: thing is you got some if nothing else, it's a
Speaker 2: psychological thing that somebody else is right next to you
Speaker 2: or around you, you know. And this is what people.
Speaker 2: People have done this for centuries. They maybe not even
Speaker 2: like the person, you know, they're talking to the house
Speaker 2: next door, who knows. But the point being this is
Speaker 2: when every everybody's in a dire situation, all the personality
Speaker 2: differences usually go to the side, you know, and each person,
Speaker 2: unless they're psychopath, each person's interested in helping a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know.
Speaker 2: I don't think their psychopaths down there. I think they
Speaker 2: all moved to Washington, d C. And they're coming back
Speaker 2: down in the FEMA group, the.
Speaker 1: Greatest concentration psychopaths in the world right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was blown away. I had read something about somebody
Speaker 2: recorded and meeting FEMA was having They were talking about
Speaker 2: these areas and they said, well, we should help the
Speaker 2: LBG X y Z people.
Speaker 1: I just played that clip because.
Speaker 2: They've been struggling all their life. Well, oh yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I just played a point to where this is. It's
Speaker 2: so ludicrous, it's it's it's unbelievable that somebody even brings
Speaker 2: something like that up. You know, I had hurt. How
Speaker 2: many people are missing, David.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. They've found to two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty some odd bodies, but they were saying a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago there were more than six hundred people
Speaker 1: still missing. They said they're finding bodies and pieces of
Speaker 1: bodies and the trees. Somebody we know from the Raleigh
Speaker 1: area of North Carolina is there as part of a
Speaker 1: tree removal service. Actually we knew his parents, and he's
Speaker 1: talking about how they're cutting down trees and he said
Speaker 1: finding a lot of body parts and trees that they're
Speaker 1: cutting off. My god, that's really terrible. But you know,
Speaker 1: Biden says everything's okay. He said, everybody's really happy about
Speaker 1: what's going and they don't need any more money. It's
Speaker 1: Ukraine that needs more money. It's Israel that needs more money.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're talking yeah, yeah, when you
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff and you talk about the.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the politicians brought this up
Speaker 2: This is literally treason, that's right, it is. They seem
Speaker 2: to think everything outside this country is important the forever
Speaker 2: wars and people don't have to talk to me and say,
Speaker 2: you know, don't you don't like war? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: like war. I've seen thousands of bodies and I've seen
Speaker 2: the parts from them. So anybody wants to wave the
Speaker 2: flag around, go through what I've gone through first, and
Speaker 2: then you can wave the flag around and tell me
Speaker 2: all about it. But I have to tell you this.
Speaker 2: Africa they do a similar type of thing. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of tribes. When the colonists divided up Africa in
Speaker 2: the countries, they divided by mountain ranges, they divided by rivers,
Speaker 2: they divided by different deserts and stuff like different types
Speaker 2: of train. They did not divide by tribes. So consequently,
Speaker 2: you'll have a tribe like the Mashana tribe will be
Speaker 2: in Mozambique and the next store country Zimbabwe, and in
Speaker 2: Mozombee they may be a very very much of a minority,
Speaker 2: and you can have the Zulu tribes over there and
Speaker 2: what they will do is surround an area and literally
Speaker 2: starve the people to death. I have been into an
Speaker 2: area like that, I saw the dead and dying. Almost
Speaker 2: all of them were dead, and it had been surrounded
Speaker 2: and they're surrounded by military people who are from the
Speaker 2: tribe that is in power. Now you have a similar parallel,
Speaker 2: I believe, coming to this country because you have what
Speaker 2: they call the red and the blue people in this country.
Speaker 2: If you're Christian, traditional believe in the constitution, white most likely,
Speaker 2: and that's moving into the Hispanic too, you're a target.
Speaker 2: And when you have a government that is basing what
Speaker 2: they're going to do for the welfare of the people
Speaker 2: on what your political affiliation is, you've got a problem.
Speaker 2: Now they're doing this already. It's been going on for
Speaker 2: a long time. Using voter rolls from a friend of
Speaker 2: mine in my Special Courses chapter. He worked for Department
Speaker 2: of Homeland Security fifteen years ago. He saw this stuff
Speaker 2: going on, he quit and got out of it. He
Speaker 2: just got to the point of where he didn't want
Speaker 2: to be involved in this anymore. But there's always somebody
Speaker 2: that's thinks they're a heavy hitter and a tough guy
Speaker 2: that wants to run rough shot over everybody. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's a lot of what I think these agencies
Speaker 2: are And unfortunately, i'd like to say, like I used
Speaker 2: to believe that, I think the vast majority of people
Speaker 2: in bureaucracy want to do something good. I don't know
Speaker 2: that anymore after what I'm hearing about and reading about
Speaker 2: with FEMA's actions down there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, It's just it continues to degrade. They
Speaker 1: become more and more isolated, living in their own little
Speaker 1: world and just contemptible everything on the outside. You were
Speaker 1: talking earlier about the radio stuff, and I remember when
Speaker 1: we were in Austin, we got to be good friends
Speaker 1: with a guy who's retired marine, and he'd organize his
Speaker 1: entire neighborhood. Everybody had radios, and so they would have
Speaker 1: that there, you know, like a better than a neighborhood
Speaker 1: watch thing or something, right, instead of well I think
Speaker 1: I see something calling the police and waiting for them
Speaker 1: to come. Know, you got your neighbors there, and he
Speaker 1: was training them doing the kind of stuff that you
Speaker 1: talk about in civil defense. And Manuel and he told us,
Speaker 1: he said, so we thought this thing through. He said,
Speaker 1: you know, we got one road into this neighborhood off
Speaker 1: of a fairly busy road, and so he's concerned about
Speaker 1: that really busy road, and he said things get really
Speaker 1: bad where he got plans about how I'm going to
Speaker 1: take that tree down and block access to this neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean they'd really thought about how his
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds ridiculous, but he's one hundred percent spot on
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: Here's here's one thing I know from all the military
Speaker 2: training I've been through an audit tactical training, is once
Speaker 2: people get within your defenses, you've got a problem. In
Speaker 2: other words, you cannot defend your house alone. You need
Speaker 2: to keep them out of your area. You need to
Speaker 2: blockade the road. If there's an extreme emergency like this hurricane,
Speaker 2: put some vehicles out there. Block the road. They're going
Speaker 2: to get damaged anyway, whatever you've got because of the
Speaker 2: storm and flying debris. But block the road off and
Speaker 2: try to keep these people that do stay behind from
Speaker 2: coming and kicking your door down. And that's what's going
Speaker 2: to happen when they don't have water and after a
Speaker 2: period of time, when they don't have food. I will
Speaker 2: tell you this that the radio system is probably one
Speaker 2: of the most critical things. It's one of the most
Speaker 2: critical tools you can have, and it's one of the
Speaker 2: best tools to develop neighborhood cohesiveness. But this guy talking
Speaker 2: about dropping the tree down. Yeah, yeah, hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk a little bit about looters, because
Speaker 1: this is starting to become a problem. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at it. You look at the vast amount of destruction
Speaker 1: that is there, and you say, well, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: that anybody would come from the outside. But they did
Speaker 1: arrest over it was at least eight illegal aliens who
Speaker 1: had gone into the area that were looting. But a
Speaker 1: lot of this looting might be from people just trying
Speaker 1: to scaveage for something. You know, talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about that, you know, the problem of looters, because that
Speaker 1: is something that is they're going to be faced with
Speaker 1: when you have this kind of massive disaster.
Speaker 2: As I say in the Civil Defense Manual, in most
Speaker 2: catastrophic situations, which is what I use the term to
Speaker 2: describe things like a hurricane for instance, or breakdown in
Speaker 2: the power grid, whatever it is, I described these as
Speaker 2: catastrophic situations. If you have a catastrope, I think get situation.
Speaker 2: The first danger to people is going to come by vehicle.
Speaker 2: You're most likely going to have people. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: the illegals are driving around a vehicle, but you're going
Speaker 2: to have plenty of people other than them, and that's
Speaker 2: probably one. That eighth that they caught is probably one
Speaker 2: percent of these people. And I based that on this.
Speaker 2: I come from a color crane box family. I don't
Speaker 2: really judge people by the shape of their eyes or
Speaker 2: the color of their skin, either like them or don't
Speaker 2: like them, or like in my family. The only exception
Speaker 2: I make is I don't like the Communists in my family.
Speaker 1: You know, they whatever color they are, whether whether they're
Speaker 1: red or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, And it's yeah, a couple of couple of em
Speaker 2: are in Minnesota, by the way, so you know, I
Speaker 2: feel sorry for the for the guy that took the insult,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of good people in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I said that when I talked about it.
Speaker 1: There's there's good people in California and Washington State and Oregon,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're the ones who you are really
Speaker 1: tuned into this more than people. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people who live in a conservative state will kind
Speaker 1: of go to sleep with this kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: that's how you wind up with that kind of a situation.
Speaker 1: But if you're an area where the predominant political power
Speaker 1: and the zeitgeist and everything is far to the left.
Speaker 1: It really does wake you up, but it still means
Speaker 1: that it's a it's a problem for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means you've got to fight it. You can't
Speaker 2: just bury you ahead in the sands, right. And I
Speaker 2: think it's going to go away. It's not going away.
Speaker 2: It grows exponentially every year because nobody's there to argue
Speaker 2: with this idiocy that these people propose. Going back to
Speaker 2: the looters. You got to keep them out of the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And one of the ways they're going to come is
Speaker 2: by vehicle. People are going to be driving by vehicle.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest danger most people have in our area here.
Speaker 2: We have three streets that we need to block off,
Speaker 2: and we're prepared to do it. It'll take a catastrophic
Speaker 2: situation to the point to where what I call a
Speaker 2: level three. I'd give different levels and what you should
Speaker 2: do in the book, Level one, level two, and level three.
Speaker 2: Level three is a high alert when you've got a disaster,
Speaker 2: when law enforcement and fire department, not just law enforcement,
Speaker 2: people think about that. One of the biggest dangers is
Speaker 2: when you have a catastrophic situation is the fire hazard
Speaker 2: that goes on not only from people in their house
Speaker 2: burning things to try to keep warm or doing whatever,
Speaker 2: trying to cook with a flame fire inside, but you
Speaker 2: also have catastrophic situations where people have to you have
Speaker 2: to address the level to the response of the fire
Speaker 2: department and law enforcement. But looters, I would just tell
Speaker 2: you this. I would I don't want to take life,
Speaker 2: but I would probably have them certainly understand that theirs
Speaker 2: is in danger if they come back into this area.
Speaker 2: I'm not a policeman, I well be a policeman. I
Speaker 2: will be my neighborhood guardian. And people got to understand
Speaker 2: some you're not forming a militia. That is a misnomer
Speaker 2: that's being used. Militias have certain tactical aspects that when
Speaker 2: you're guarding your neighborhood you are not that one of
Speaker 2: which and if.
Speaker 1: You if you start using that label, they're going to
Speaker 1: they weaponize that term.
Speaker 2: They're going to.
Speaker 1: Put target on yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the biggest reason. Militia, by its nature
Speaker 2: has is highly mobile and it's offensive. It can be
Speaker 2: more using offensive tactics than it's using defensive tactics. I
Speaker 2: have what I call an area tactical proactive defense. That
Speaker 2: proactive being this is blockade your area, off guard your area,
Speaker 2: keep people out. That's the You know, the little old
Speaker 2: lady right two doors down for me, she's not going
Speaker 2: to be able to defend herself. She's going to get
Speaker 2: her door kicked in if there's nobody keeping these people
Speaker 2: out of the neighborhood. Yeah, So the looters and the
Speaker 2: lady that's worried about where do I go? I haven't
Speaker 2: got any gas. They need to hunk her down. But
Speaker 2: they need to get together with their neighbors. Right If
Speaker 2: she's listening right now, she needs to brave the storm
Speaker 2: and go next door and see if people are home. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: and that's the key is get people getting together. It's
Speaker 2: always what I call strength. The numbers in the book
Speaker 2: I give a definition of it. Definitions mean nothing. We've
Speaker 2: been doing this for thousands of years, we've been organizing
Speaker 2: in cities and they put walls up around them. Why
Speaker 2: did they do that. They did it to keep the
Speaker 2: marauders out. If it was somebody outside their klan. They
Speaker 2: didn't want those people in there. It wasn't just a
Speaker 2: walled in area where they had commerce. It was a
Speaker 2: place that they could protect themselves absolutely. And you know,
Speaker 2: in a situation, she gets to know her neighbors and
Speaker 2: they know that she's there. Whatever if something happens to her,
Speaker 2: even if her neighbors cannot help her, they can at
Speaker 2: least get help, you know, so somebody knows that she's there.
Speaker 1: So that's very wise advice. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I got a listener here tw nine seven four one.
Speaker 1: I just ordered a copy of the Civil Defense Manual.
Speaker 1: Been meaning to do it for a while. Thank you,
Speaker 1: David for making me aware of this valuable resource. It
Speaker 1: is very valuable. I've had other people write me after
Speaker 1: they've picked up. One guy said it's worth ten times
Speaker 1: what I paid for it. And it is very impressive
Speaker 1: the amount of information that's there. And if you go
Speaker 1: to the site and you see the sample chapters that's
Speaker 1: got there, especially the one on water, that's your number
Speaker 1: one thing, is the number one thing people are looking
Speaker 1: at here in this disaster. If you look at what
Speaker 1: he's got, that gives you an idea. If you look
Speaker 1: at that water chapter gives you an idea of just
Speaker 1: how thorough the information is. On the rest of these topics.
Speaker 1: This is also from Mgoan fan says, my friend is
Speaker 1: part of the community Emergency Response Team in Malibu. Started
Speaker 1: from the fire department, first aid, CPR, grew into ham
Speaker 1: radio Communications, procurement, securing and distributing emergency. So, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: an important thing. And by the way, I boost said,
Speaker 1: and I was going to mention this too, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about that DeSantis, as this new hurricane is coming in,
Speaker 1: you got and he said that you shoot, you loot,
Speaker 1: we shoot. So Governor DeSantis is saying the same thing,
Speaker 1: and he's saying, look, the law supports that here in Florida,
Speaker 1: self defense and defense against looting. That's very important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before there were people. I explained a lot of
Speaker 2: this in the book. It gives them a basis, what's
Speaker 2: your police department? The police departments in areas used to
Speaker 2: be composed of individual citizens and they take turns, and
Speaker 2: they take a shift for two two hours, and they'd
Speaker 2: walk around with their lantern and a stick whatever they
Speaker 2: used to defend themselves. And it wasn't just against criminality,
Speaker 2: it was against fire. And I get into the fire
Speaker 2: aspect in this book too. It's critically critically important. I mean,
Speaker 2: what good is it for you to have a shotgun
Speaker 2: and two boxes of shotgun shows if your house, if
Speaker 2: your house is burning down around you, you know. But
Speaker 2: the point being this, before they became public, they were
Speaker 2: police departments that were citizen run. Then they hired the watchmen,
Speaker 2: the night watchmen. But there was one aspect if people
Speaker 2: read history, there's one aspect that they looked at, actually
Speaker 2: two arsonists and looters. Those two people literally, in France,
Speaker 2: you could shoot those people if you could prove they
Speaker 2: were looting or approve they were arsonists, and nobody's doingthing
Speaker 2: to it. It was absolutely like self defense. Now that's
Speaker 2: not the way things are now, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if that was, there'd be a lot
Speaker 1: of dead people in France if they were shooting the
Speaker 1: arsonists because they're burning churches up left and right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But of course they don't have guns anymore. I
Speaker 1: guess they've taken those.
Speaker 2: I was there in nineteen seventy one. I was astounded.
Speaker 2: I walked into a fortieh Goods store and they had
Speaker 2: fully automatic. The M sixteen had just come out, and
Speaker 2: they'd just done a modification to it. They had fully
Speaker 2: they had about four of them sitting in Iraq fully
Speaker 2: automatic M sixteen. Now they've gone from that to if
Speaker 2: you're in the military and you retire from the military,
Speaker 2: the police can't do this. They can't carry a firearm,
Speaker 2: But if you're retired military you can carry a firearm. Wrong.
Speaker 2: That just very strange laws they've got there. But generally
Speaker 2: you can't have a gun like you say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you know, of course that not letting
Speaker 1: the police have a gun off duty. That was the
Speaker 1: Heller case and was all about.
Speaker 2: Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't they wouldn't let this guy who's a police
Speaker 1: officer when he's off duty in Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 1: the crime is pretty bad, he couldn't carry a firearm.
Speaker 1: And they established they tried to pretend that it was
Speaker 1: not an individual right. But of course some they.
Speaker 2: What do they say, it's fifteen to twenty people a
Speaker 2: day killed by farms in the United States. What about
Speaker 2: the two hundred and nineteen people that die every day
Speaker 2: from overdoses of drugs? You know, I mean, they need
Speaker 2: to get to prove priorities, right, But that's never what
Speaker 2: liberals do. And case in point, the appellation issue. Female
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, they haven't got their ducks in a row
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And they're focused on other things. You know,
Speaker 1: they're focused on not just the DEI, but also you know,
Speaker 1: assisting people to come in and invade the country. One
Speaker 1: person said, we're all the free flights for Filardians to
Speaker 1: get out of harm's way. Why can we fly illegals
Speaker 1: across the country but we can't fly out those who
Speaker 1: are in the path of Milton? Why is that rhetorical question?
Speaker 2: I laughed. I saw a cartoon. If anybody knows what
Speaker 2: the big twin Rotor forty seven helicopter is, it'll carry
Speaker 2: about I think about thirty troops, and they show people
Speaker 2: holding a sign up please help, we need aid on
Speaker 2: the roofs. This is all characters of a cartoon and
Speaker 2: they're holding this sign up in their closer ragged please help,
Speaker 2: we need aid. So this helicopter's flying over, so then
Speaker 2: it backs up, drops the ramp in the back, and
Speaker 2: all these illegals come out under their roof of their house.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's free enough for you. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: as you were talking about when you grew up in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: tornadoes are the big issue up there. I know, even
Speaker 1: though I grew up in Florida, the worst devastation that
Speaker 1: we had was not from a hurricane in Tampa. It
Speaker 1: was from a tornado, a tornado that hit our house,
Speaker 1: and it truly was amazing. And so these types of
Speaker 1: natural disasters are going to vary. It will surprise people.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, living in Florida, well, we thought
Speaker 1: we were going to have some massive disaster like that.
Speaker 1: It was going to be a hurricane. Suf was a tornado.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait a minute, I don't live in Kansas.
Speaker 1: We're not in Dorothy. We're not in Kansas anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're in Tampa. What's a tornado doing here? But you
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. And that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: your book is really broad in terms of a lot
Speaker 1: of different scenarios. But there's a lot of commonality in
Speaker 1: a lot of these things as well. And the stuff
Speaker 1: we've been talking about with a neighbor and basic preparation
Speaker 1: for water, a lot of those things are going to
Speaker 1: cover a lot of different bases for a lot of
Speaker 1: different scenarios.
Speaker 2: It's really mistitled the book. It says civil defense. Manuel
Speaker 2: I came up with that, because we really don't have
Speaker 2: any civil defense in this country as well. Everybody else
Speaker 2: is dug in. The Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, Wes.
Speaker 2: They've spent trillions of dollars on elaborate survival facilities and
Speaker 2: we have done the opposite. With the exception, I think
Speaker 2: they've probably put a couple of taj mahals underneath the
Speaker 2: White House. There's been a lot of digging and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Nobody really knows, but.
Speaker 1: Like Greenbrier Hotel there in Virginia was.
Speaker 2: Another one as Yes, yes, I think that though I
Speaker 2: should have really put a name of the preparedness manual
Speaker 2: because I have recipes in there for food. I have
Speaker 2: a lot of information on storing. I would just like
Speaker 2: people to go to my website and read some of
Speaker 2: this stuff. Don't buy a book if you don't want to,
Speaker 2: but read the part on water and prepare yourself that way.
Speaker 2: There's I have so much in this book though that
Speaker 2: it's the agency of a preparation and survival. I mean
Speaker 2: it gets into stuff that I've been involved with when
Speaker 2: I was in a commando unit in Africa. It gets
Speaker 2: into how to survive a gun battle. Yeah, I have stuff.
Speaker 2: I was taught by British sas and an Israeli command
Speaker 2: to instructor. What the British SAS guys couldn't conceive of
Speaker 2: for cruelty, the Israeli commando instructor did and I went
Speaker 2: through some horrendous training. There was like sixty six us
Speaker 2: started and seventeen of us got through the thing, and
Speaker 2: I was one of the older guys. But the point
Speaker 2: being this, there's information on how to use a firearm.
Speaker 2: You can't learn it just out of a book. But
Speaker 2: the things I put in that book you're not going
Speaker 2: to find much of any Internet because these are these
Speaker 2: are situations. They are little things that make the difference
Speaker 2: between you living and surviving.
Speaker 1: Well, you know you said that you started it with
Speaker 1: sould of his because you knew that we're not preparing.
Speaker 1: You know, Russia prepares and plans for their people, but
Speaker 1: not in the US. And it reminds me Jack. There
Speaker 1: was years ago. I can't remember the name of it
Speaker 1: because something like Red Rock, but the subtitle was the
Speaker 1: plan for government to protect the self and let the
Speaker 1: rest of us die. And that has always been the case,
Speaker 1: going back to the nineteen sixties and the mutual assured
Speaker 1: destruction or the Cuban missile crisis. They never prepare for us.
Speaker 1: They never have any plans to help us. And that's
Speaker 1: what we can see with this hurricane.
Speaker 2: Actually, in nineteen seventy six, Jimmy Carter ended the civil
Speaker 2: defense It was done away with at that point. God
Speaker 2: only knows why they would do something like this, because
Speaker 2: look what we'd have in Appalasia. If they had every
Speaker 2: church had water in the basement, every church had survival
Speaker 2: food in the basement, there wouldn't be an issues some
Speaker 2: of these issues that are going on. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel so sorry for the people because
Speaker 2: you talk about being in a high house that goes
Speaker 2: down into the water. I saw a picture of a
Speaker 2: house way up on the hillside and it was ready
Speaker 2: to go into water. Where you were wasn't really an importance.
Speaker 2: But if we had a civil defense system in this
Speaker 2: we don't because FEMA's FEMA's case in point. They're no
Speaker 2: civil defense system. Civil defense system comes in the house people, yes,
Speaker 2: but it prepares people to help themselves. And that's what
Speaker 2: I try to do through the book. And it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a huge amount of information. But people
Speaker 2: go to my website www. Dot Civil Defensemanual dot com
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of free stuff I put on there.
Speaker 2: I put it on there so people can get some basics.
Speaker 2: I can't store food for them and I can't store
Speaker 2: water from them, but using the information that's free there,
Speaker 2: they can they can do this themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a tremendous amount of wisdom there, and we
Speaker 1: can all see the wisdom in preparing. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of people got blindsided, you know, with the stuff
Speaker 1: that happened in twenty twenty. The supply chain, all the
Speaker 1: rest of the stuff. Now we see. I think the
Speaker 1: good thing about this, the silver lining in this is
Speaker 1: that this is the best documented case of FEMA failure,
Speaker 1: and that's something's been going on for decades, but we've
Speaker 1: not seen it this well documented. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us, Jack Lawson, Civil Defensemanual dot com. A
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