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<v Speaker 2>And what you've just been listening to is the ultimate

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<v Speaker 3>KFIM six forty is Later with mo Kelly Tech Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, we're live everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 3>iHeartRadio app. Marsha Collier joins me in studio. Marsha, have

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<v Speaker 3>we been prone to hyperbole with these two technological conventions.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the years.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, I think some of them I mentioned this

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<v Speaker 5>last week, some of them were just on the edge

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<v Speaker 5>of ridiculous. And I forget what major remember that pin

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<v Speaker 5>that came out It was an AI pin that you

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<v Speaker 5>were supposed to talk to and it was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a pin that you wore and nobody wanted it. No,

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<v Speaker 5>some major company just bought it for a quack a

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<v Speaker 5>billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's I guess maybe you want the technology

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<v Speaker 3>and it was some other application.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it. And all this ridiculous tech that we see,

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<v Speaker 5>that's where it is. By the way, you were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about Gene Hackman. Yes, Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>my goodness, thank you. I never expected that performance out

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<v Speaker 5>of him. It was so the opposite of everything that

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<v Speaker 5>Gene Hackman ever ever did. And with you, miss Tesma,

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<v Speaker 5>Miss Tesma, Yeah, I mean it was perfect. He was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>You think about that cast, even ned Baty. That cast

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<v Speaker 3>was so underappreciated, I think for its time because the

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<v Speaker 3>movie came out at a time where superheroes, Superman. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think the movie was taking us seriously back then

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<v Speaker 3>as we would have now.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember sitting and watching that because I was

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<v Speaker 5>a DC crazy as I was growing up and had

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<v Speaker 5>I still have the early Lowis Lanes and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and I loved it so much. I wanted to grow

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<v Speaker 5>up and be Lois Lane. And when I saw Christopher

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<v Speaker 5>Reeves flying with Lois Lane. Oh my goodness, it was magical.

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<v Speaker 3>That first Superman movie with the John Williams score. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we have the super hero industry today

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<v Speaker 3>with that movie. Yes, you could say Batman nineteen eighty nine, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>was big, But I think it goes back to Superman.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. You know who it goes back to, also, Alexa.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, well, this is the tech segment, right, So

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking about technology now, and a star of many

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<v Speaker 5>lives is Alexa. And I hope your Alexa didn't do

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<v Speaker 5>anything when I said that, I have personally unplugged my Alexa.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not want it listening all the time. And

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<v Speaker 5>it is listening all the time, all the time. And

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<v Speaker 5>it seems that you know, it's getting better the Seattle Company. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>Amazon is going to install even better AI products and

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<v Speaker 5>services that it will sell to businesses and other organizations.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean our data along with it. I have a feeling, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Have a feeling that that that might roll along with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Amazon executives say Alexa will now identify who is speaking

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<v Speaker 5>and know the person's preferences such as favorite sports teams, musicians,

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<v Speaker 5>and foods. They demonstrated how a device powered Alexa plus

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<v Speaker 5>could raise suggest a restaurant, book a reservation on open table,

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<v Speaker 5>and an order an uber insteat, a calendar and invitation.

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<v Speaker 5>But we know that Google can already do that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, But yeah, your asket it's polite in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't just do it without you know, any pushy theresa.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, you spend forty dollars ahead for six people,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. But so it's coming into your house if

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<v Speaker 5>you continue, and I assume it's going to be free

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<v Speaker 5>to prime users and it will be nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 4>What it's one hundred dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you know. I read an article today though,

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<v Speaker 5>and people don't want to use AI. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 5>can take all this noise and every story I pick up.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why I picked the stories I had today,

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<v Speaker 5>because it's not AI centric. It's because people don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to spread their private details. We have too many security

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<v Speaker 5>cameras at my house. I want them out.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's something for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's there's a difference between help and assuming control. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's certain things that I don't want to relinquish to

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<v Speaker 3>a computer entity.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, how about that little Amazon drone that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be in your house that when you leave get gets up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the little drones about four inches. It pulls out

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<v Speaker 5>of its little station and it has already mapped out

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<v Speaker 5>your house and it patrols your house while you're going on.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a ring device.

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<v Speaker 4>My house is not that big, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 5>But think about it. You've got open mail, Well, you

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<v Speaker 5>go through your library. What books does this man read?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's catalog that for Amazon?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it catalogs where the windows and doors are and

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<v Speaker 3>the soft points in your security system.

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<v Speaker 5>So we can't even go there. Let's I wouldn't buy

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<v Speaker 5>it a real quick thing. I mean, yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 5>tell you more, but make your own decision on that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you really want Alexa to have in depth conversations

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<v Speaker 5>with you, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know see that. I don't want that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>there to be a clear delineation. I don't want it

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<v Speaker 3>in the context of an actual person. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>help me with my life. I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 4>To assume the role of a person. It's a difference.

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<v Speaker 5>And they're including also AI systems built by the startup

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<v Speaker 5>and morphic morepic.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those who don't know, the word anthropomorphic is

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<v Speaker 3>to be human.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, right, yeah, i'd like Rosie. Remember from the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>We're basically there with the exception of the physical.

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<v Speaker 5>But why are the ones we have now so scary looking?

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<v Speaker 5>Every robot they build is scary looking. The ones in

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<v Speaker 5>the cartoons are.

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<v Speaker 3>Better because they're trying to get the there's an actual

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<v Speaker 3>answer to that, because they're trying to get the facial

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<v Speaker 3>expressions right, and they cannot make the face look human.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what I'm saying, make it a cartoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Just make it just a box.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to have a face with two eyes

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<v Speaker 3>and and can pull it cheeks into a smile.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't need any of that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's weird, If this is all weird, beyond beyond everything.

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<v Speaker 5>One last thing before before we go, do you ever

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<v Speaker 5>worry that you'd like drop dead alone in the house

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<v Speaker 5>or somewhere and nobody would know that you did, just

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<v Speaker 5>in case they could resuss a you or your heart

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<v Speaker 5>stopped beating and you fell down. And only since I

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<v Speaker 5>turned fifty, right serious, for those of us over forty five,

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<v Speaker 5>I have to include myself when you have that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of fear. It's a real fear, like we don't even

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<v Speaker 5>know what happened to Geane. I mean, who knows. Google

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<v Speaker 5>today received clearance from the USD of the FDA for

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<v Speaker 5>a loss of pulse detection feature that will be in

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<v Speaker 5>the pixel Watch three.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll probably buy that for having nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with this. But is that loss of pulse detection for

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<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the wearer or the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 3>person who finds you? Because the moment that there's no pulse,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quite sure there's a fading consciousness at that point

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well. Okay, if your heart stops beating from an event

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<v Speaker 5>like a primary cardiac arrest, respiratory or circular tour failure, overdose,

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<v Speaker 5>or poisoning, and it will automatically prompt a call to

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<v Speaker 4>Woh, okay, to like crash detection.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, Well, they've done a great job with crash detection,

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<v Speaker 5>fall detection, irregular heart rhythm notifications, and the ECG APP

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<v Speaker 5>and safety check. I mean, lost pulse detection is another step,

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<v Speaker 5>and the fact that it has been cleared by the

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<v Speaker 5>FDA I think is important.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's something I would look into. Miss kf

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<v Speaker 3>I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll miss you, but we still love you. Gene Hackman.

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<v Speaker 2>Why by does the.

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<v Speaker 7>Video game from atalrator intelegrasion invest in the Wonder computers

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<v Speaker 7>in nineteen eighties for under three hundred dollars, the Comodol

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<v Speaker 7>twenty unlike games that has a real computer keyboard for

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<v Speaker 7>a Comodore Pick twenty, the whole family can and computing

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<v Speaker 7>at home plays great games too under three hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>The under computer of the nineteen eighties, the Commodore VIC

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<v Speaker 7>twenty coming soon. Commodore brings you Gor the Wonder Arcade

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<v Speaker 7>game and don't make a racing home versions Commodore.

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<v Speaker 3>I had an in television to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>K IF I am six forty. It's Tick Thursday with

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<v Speaker 3>were you going to say, Marcia?

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<v Speaker 5>I was. I was the throwing in my court quarters

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<v Speaker 5>at the arcade. I was just like I packed me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a big deal to be able to have

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<v Speaker 3>video games at home. And that was right at the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning with the Atari, the in television. You know, that

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<v Speaker 3>was the closest thing we had to home.

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<v Speaker 5>Mary Wolfenstein, of course I do LEAs Larry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look that's my that's my era era. Yes, those

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<v Speaker 4>were early.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually worked in an arcade when I was seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen years old. It was Aladdin's Castle in Dilameo Mall.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was in heaven working in it arcade.

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<v Speaker 3>I could play when I wasn't working, play all the

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<v Speaker 3>arcade arcade games as much as.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted, all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a literal key to open up the games

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<v Speaker 3>and play as much as I wanted. There was no

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<v Speaker 3>better job in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great. As a matter of fact, I had a

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<v Speaker 5>business back in the olden days, and I did marketing

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<v Speaker 5>for different shopping centers, and one of those shopping centers

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<v Speaker 5>had an arcade in it. So when I came in

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<v Speaker 5>to meet with management, the nice guy who owned the

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<v Speaker 5>arcade would give my daughter a silo of quarters and

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<v Speaker 5>let her loose, and she I knew she was taken

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<v Speaker 5>care of. I have a pinball machine at home.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm old Chicago. It's an old, old machine.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I love playing pinball. I'm old enough to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember arcade games when they were only one quarter,

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<v Speaker 3>just one quarter, right, not the fifty cents, not the dollar,

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<v Speaker 3>but one quarter.

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<v Speaker 5>And when that shiny ball came down, came down the shoe,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you'd take pulled back ever since, and you

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<v Speaker 5>thought you was really going to control things by the

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<v Speaker 5>way you pulled it back.

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<v Speaker 3>I was never very good at pinball. To tilt the

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<v Speaker 3>machine was a moment of shame. Well, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh no, I got very angry and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so so so back to technology because I know

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<v Speaker 5>back to the good stuff later. You've used anti virus software.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely over the years, the Kaffe Malaware, malabites, you know

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<v Speaker 6>That?

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<v Speaker 5>The FTC found the company collected information on religious beliefs,

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<v Speaker 5>health concerns, political leanings, financial status and location, and without

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<v Speaker 4>That they got a lot of people's data.

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<v Speaker 5>The FTC didn't like the idea at all, and they

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, not for what they for the privacy violations

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<v Speaker 5>And that that number includes compensation for users who bought

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<v Speaker 5>Now I'm one of those people. I always got a

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<v Speaker 5>Got that, And I said, no, No, all I want

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<v Speaker 5>so print it out even if you're not deleting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Print it out.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll need this to complete the a vast settlement claim

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<v Speaker 5>form online and they'll have phone numbers if you need

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<v Speaker 5>your claim by June fifth, twenty twenty five. And it

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<v Speaker 5>just really pisses me off. And I wish we'd get

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<v Speaker 4>It's not going to happen, but it's nice to have dreams.

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<v Speaker 5>But in other notes, I'm a two factor authentication, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>do you apply that everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 3>As many places as possible? A lot of things now,

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<v Speaker 3>like even with Instagram you don't even have the option.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to have some sort of two factor authentic exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And Google blows me away is going away from two

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<v Speaker 5>factor authentication with SMS codes and SMS codes for those

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<v Speaker 5>who don't know it, that's texting and Google or somebody

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<v Speaker 5>else will text you a six digit number or something

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<v Speaker 5>especially if it's on your phone and you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, huh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, But yeah, they have to do it. But that's

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<v Speaker 5>the source of phishing. People who have been phished a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of times. The number fished means they've been defrauded

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<v Speaker 5>via email or data has been stolen from a marketplace

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<v Speaker 5>or something, and it's on the black market. People will

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<v Speaker 5>SMS saying to log in, just use these numbers. They're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to find out which numbers are active. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>been bad. So what Google is going to do now

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<v Speaker 5>They've been starting to prompt with passkeys. And I was

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<v Speaker 5>going to do a whole thing on passkeys, because frankly,

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<v Speaker 5>what's a pass key? There are a billion ways to

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<v Speaker 5>do a pass key, but I don't have all time

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<v Speaker 5>for it. Let's just say there's a thing you can

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<v Speaker 5>because that goes to Google. Yeah, but they're replacing this

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<v Speaker 5>with QR codes and yeah, they say, you take a picture,

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<v Speaker 5>Store download Google Authenticator. There are billion authentication apps, so

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<v Speaker 5>do not be fooled, except only the original Google Authenticator.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you open that, it gives you incredible options.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me jump in there. I have Google Authenticator. My

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<v Speaker 3>only problem with it it's not easy to figure out how.

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<v Speaker 5>To use it exactly because there's a blank page. When

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<v Speaker 5>you press the cross in the lower right hand corner,

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<v Speaker 5>You will start seeing QR codes and setup keys more

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<v Speaker 5>and more. They're just going to start doing this, and

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll take you a while to get used to it,

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<v Speaker 3>but is it actually quicker once you master it.

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<v Speaker 5>It is quicker. And QR codes. I'd been using them

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<v Speaker 5>forever because I thought they were cool, and then I

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the thing. You have to be careful.

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<v Speaker 3>You always have to stay one step ahead of the

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if you're looking at a sign and it has

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<v Speaker 5>a QR code on it, double check to be sure

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<v Speaker 5>it's not another sticker stuck over the real QR code,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's another way for them to pull data from

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<v Speaker 5>your phone. And that's kind of why I'm here. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to give you information to protect you and make

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<v Speaker 3>You gave a lot of information, but also I'm quite

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<v Speaker 3>sure you inspired some questions about that information.

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<v Speaker 4>How can they further follow up up with you?

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<v Speaker 5>If you go to my website Marsha Collier dot com

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<v Speaker 5>m A R S H A C O L L

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<v Speaker 5>I E R dot com and go to the contact page,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a contact form. I don't save anything. Why why

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<v Speaker 5>do I not save anything? Because I don't want a list,

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<v Speaker 5>I do not want your information. I do not want

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<v Speaker 5>the responsibility of any of that nonsense, so I don't

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<v Speaker 5>save it. Contact me there and I will answer your questions.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, thank you to the people who

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<v Speaker 5>have sent me compliments. It really made me made me

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<v Speaker 5>feel good. You guys are great.

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<v Speaker 4>Stefan Wolfenstein, Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got the guys so long as I've heard that.

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<v Speaker 5>You're walking through the halls. Now we're going to turn

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<v Speaker 5>a corner soon? Or are we not going to see

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<v Speaker 5>any Nazis?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know about Wolfensteining? And you're not even

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<v Speaker 3>forty yet? You have to This is my early eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>When you said Aladdin's Castle, I almost lost. I just

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<v Speaker 3>We were from the same area.

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<v Speaker 5>Las Castle was find an arcade and all of us

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'm trying to think now.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Sorrentino has his own personal arcade in his house.

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<v Speaker 3>It has like twelve stand up arcade games. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the engineers here like a he's got like a fighter

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<v Speaker 3>Jet one even yes, he does you sit down in it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I also have a nineteen thirties Mills slot machine. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a Nickel slot machine. And if you want to play

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<v Speaker 5>the slot machine, if you want to keep the winnings,

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<v Speaker 5>you use your own money. If you just want to

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<v Speaker 5>play it and have fun, I'll give you roles nickels.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned something new about Marshall Calliere every single week.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I have a jukebox too.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I knew about the jukebox. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>about the pitball machine. I didn't know about the Nickel

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<v Speaker 3>slot machine. Yeah, I got Roulette table two. No, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do used to have craps.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I craps Martian Collier, I'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll see you soon. Just don't play double six no,

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<v Speaker 5>or is that double eight whatever that is in the corner.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't play craps.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well you get six to five if you do

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<v Speaker 5>it on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a hint? Is that like, look at the clock? Fine, Stefan,

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>As we were talking about tech Moore generally and AI specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you're familiar or not familiar with the idea of singularity.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the moment in which machine intelligence surpasses human intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>And the CEO of Anthropic says, we're on that threshold

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<v Speaker 3>and we could be reaching the moment of singularity in

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<v Speaker 3>about twelve more months or so. And scientists have been

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<v Speaker 3>debating this for many years, and there's a question of

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<v Speaker 3>whether human intelligence and its known limitations can be surpassed

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<v Speaker 3>by machine intelligence, and most people believe that that might

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<v Speaker 3>be either unlimited or much less limited than human intelligence

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<v Speaker 3>and what that means for society, and without getting too

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<v Speaker 3>deep into it all, when we get to quantum computing,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no telling where our scientific discoveries, our medicinal discoveries

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<v Speaker 3>will go. And that's what scientists are trying. Computer scientists

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<v Speaker 3>are trying to hurry up and get us to quantum computing,

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<v Speaker 3>which and I'm not a computer scientist, but I understand

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<v Speaker 3>that quantum computing would put everything we have now to

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<v Speaker 3>shame and be able to make millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 3>calculations per second in a way that traditional machines today

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<v Speaker 3>like you and I have simply cannot based on the

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<v Speaker 3>binary system. I am not as much of a fatalist.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not as much one who's predicting armageddon when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to AI. I do believe that we have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of growing pains that we've yet to go through

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<v Speaker 3>with AI because we're kind of fumbling around in the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe though, we're gonna end up with Skynet.

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe that there will be some unintended consequences

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<v Speaker 3>of it, but not to the point of armageddon going

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<v Speaker 3>to undo the world or somehow the machines are going

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<v Speaker 3>to take over and eradicate all humans. Maybe I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we're only ten years from that, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't get the sense that. Well, let me put it

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<v Speaker 3>this way, science fiction never happens that fast. We still

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the flying car are There are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things in the Jetsons we still don't have. We

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<v Speaker 3>still have only gone to the Moon, we haven't gone

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<v Speaker 3>to another planet. We're not as far along scientifically as

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we would want to be, or we

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<v Speaker 3>fancy ourselves. Uh oh, twala has come into the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>That means here comes a conspiracy theory. Go ahead, no

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theories. I just welcome the singularity. I welcome the

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<v Speaker 8>Technology AI and the advancements that it's making us to

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<v Speaker 8>surpass humanity and and in become self aware because that

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<v Speaker 8>they're in my friend is going to be when everything changes,

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<v Speaker 8>everything changes, when our technology is thinking and challenging us

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<v Speaker 8>in just everything. Oh no, mo, I don't know, if

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<v Speaker 8>you want to go to that website to look up

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<v Speaker 8>this new story, you might want to go over here,

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<v Speaker 8>And now you're having an argument with your AI program

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<v Speaker 8>that's automatically installed in your computer.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they're already there. I don't think we need

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<v Speaker 3>There are a couple of things that we're debating here.

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<v Speaker 3>Self awareness of computers. I believe, since they are closer

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<v Speaker 3>on par with human intelligence at this point, they probably

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<v Speaker 3>have reached a level of self awareness or computer self

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<v Speaker 3>awareness whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Self awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm not going to get into the whole soul

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<v Speaker 3>in ego discussion of what self awareness means, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>quite sure there is a level of awareness at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as the Turing tests, in other words, would

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<v Speaker 3>fool a human, I'm quite sure that it would fool

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<v Speaker 3>most humans at this point. The best AI out there

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<v Speaker 3>programming probably could fool us. The stuff that we don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about the stuff that's on your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about the military level stuff that is being

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<v Speaker 3>used for other projects and not for general public consumption.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe in our lifetime we will see a Supreme

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<v Speaker 8>Court case wherein AI argues for personhood. I believe that wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe that we are moving so fast and without

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<v Speaker 8>any forethought for what it is we are creating, what

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<v Speaker 8>it is we're programming, that we are going to come

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<v Speaker 8>to that point where someone will try a case wherein

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<v Speaker 8>they believe, be it a Google program or an election

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<v Speaker 8>pro or whatever, they believe it has gained actual personage

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<v Speaker 8>by way of awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark, where are you on this? Have we reached machine

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<v Speaker 3>level consciousness?

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<v Speaker 6>We're at the point where I think I need to

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<v Speaker 6>reread Isaac Asimov's Eye Robot. And this is no good

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<v Speaker 6>for anybody. You heard Marsha reiterate what we've been saying

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<v Speaker 6>here over and over again. Nobody wants this. The people

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<v Speaker 6>who are pushing it are the people who stand to

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<v Speaker 6>make money on it, because that means they don't have

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<v Speaker 6>to pay human beings enough to live indoors. Nobody wants this, well.

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<v Speaker 3>The people who want it, to your point, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a monetary application, There is a monetary you know, carot

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<v Speaker 3>for all this. They want it, but not the general

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<v Speaker 3>public in the way that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>The people who want it just don't want to have

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<v Speaker 6>to pay a human being. That's it. And just the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that we can do something is never a good

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<v Speaker 6>reason to do it. I don't know what achieving a

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<v Speaker 6>singularity will do because the other thing that occurs to me,

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<v Speaker 6>also as an ex philosophy degree holder, is that we're

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<v Speaker 6>kind of passing each other going in opposite directions. Human

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<v Speaker 6>on the way down, computers on the way up.

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<v Speaker 4>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean education is getting more unaffordable and out of

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<v Speaker 6>reach for most people, especially liberal arts education, which makes

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<v Speaker 6>this more human.

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<v Speaker 4>I am six for it life everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 4>That's test my car.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to later with Mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty cam, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Aim six forties later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>in the iHeartRadio app and Twalla Sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>This paid promotional moment is brought to you by WEAIMO.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, this is in no way, shape, fashion or form

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<v Speaker 8>a paid mention. This is merely a defense of the

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<v Speaker 8>future of technology, the singularity on four whells.

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<v Speaker 4>What have you?

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<v Speaker 8>We talk about way mo all the time. Most of

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<v Speaker 8>the time it is me defending these ridiculous claims and

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<v Speaker 8>bogus reports that you all come up with slandering and

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<v Speaker 8>besmirching the good name of Weymo. Okay, you never want

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<v Speaker 8>to highlight the times when way Mo is driving as

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<v Speaker 8>you would yourself correctly. Just last night downtown La uh huh,

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<v Speaker 8>two cars were on the sides of a way Mo.

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<v Speaker 8>The light goes green. One car tries to overtake in

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<v Speaker 8>the bus lane. No doubt, you're not so if you

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<v Speaker 8>driving in the bus lane. First of all, you're a car,

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<v Speaker 8>You're not a bus tries to get get slick speed

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<v Speaker 8>into the bus lane swerve over, while another car, thinking

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna go around the Waymo tries to go around,

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<v Speaker 8>almost into oncoming traffic where they try to merge. The

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<v Speaker 8>Waymo's like, what are these fools doing? The way most

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<v Speaker 8>slows down, goes around, waits for the cars to say,

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<v Speaker 8>and then just go slightly around them and goes about

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<v Speaker 8>his business. Didn't honk, didn't give either driver a round

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<v Speaker 8>or get causing. More, it had no fingers causing. They

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<v Speaker 8>could put some type of graphic on the window. They

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to do that because they already know the

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<v Speaker 8>Waymo will be having to give runners.

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<v Speaker 4>All day long. That's not what they want.

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<v Speaker 8>They want the Waymo to stay safe, stay driving the

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<v Speaker 8>way It's supposed to, and I believe that this is

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<v Speaker 8>what WEIMO is all about. And if you ask CEO

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<v Speaker 8>Dmitri doug of Dmitri Dmitri, you know, dumits look driving

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm quoting Dimitri on this. Driving can sometimes be

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<v Speaker 8>nerve racking, but in cases like this, where Waimo has

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<v Speaker 8>provided a clear cut case as to why it should

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<v Speaker 8>be the future of robotaxi and driving around, sometimes artificial

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<v Speaker 8>intelligence prevents collisions every single time.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure you're not paid by them? I am

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely positive. You know what if this was a Elon.

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<v Speaker 8>Cyberbus, if this was if they were still in business

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<v Speaker 8>the other I can't even remember the other name of

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<v Speaker 8>the competition. They've gone away. Cruise, Yeah, they've gone away.

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<v Speaker 8>Read well, they're about to go back to the drawing

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<v Speaker 8>board to catch up with Way Moo. I just want

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<v Speaker 8>to make sure that we're all clear that this is

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<v Speaker 8>actually the way it's going to be. You Mo, you

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<v Speaker 8>were behind a way Mo recently. Don't try to bury

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<v Speaker 8>the fact that you were recently in traffic with the

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<v Speaker 8>way Moo if you witnessed nothing but purely good driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So there were days that John Wayne Gacy didn't

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<v Speaker 3>kill people, doesn't mean that it was.

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<v Speaker 8>You cannot try day mass murder. Oh good, that's not

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<v Speaker 8>fair at all.

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<v Speaker 4>You got that right. It's not fair.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, I'm gonna call the Law

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<v Speaker 3>Brothers at eight hundred to to two to to two.

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<v Speaker 3>The Law Brothers have a billboard specifically to address those

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<v Speaker 3>grievances of people with autonomous vehicle crashes. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>billboard says, I have a picture of it, autonomous vehicle crash.

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<v Speaker 4>Question mark, get Way Mo with the Law Brothers. Did

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<v Speaker 4>you say he did that? Way Mo way more money?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Waybo, Get Way Moo with the Law Brothers, eight

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<v Speaker 3>hundred to to two to to two two.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a real company. Wait, Way Mo, you should be sewing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's just take this to its logical extension here, Mo,

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<v Speaker 6>you need to be their spokesperson.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you getting paid? Do they like throw Mo in

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<v Speaker 8>there by? By some half?

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<v Speaker 4>It might it might have been just coincidence. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a paid spokesman, but I would endorse that. That endorse

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<v Speaker 4>the hell out of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Get Way Mo with the Law Brothers, eight hundred to

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<v Speaker 3>to two to two two two.

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<v Speaker 4>That phone is going to blow up now that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>blow up.

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<v Speaker 6>Now to blow up when you say that you haven't

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<v Speaker 6>been paid by way Mo, are you saying the checks

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<v Speaker 6>in the mail?

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<v Speaker 3>No, they pay it with other stuff. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>like strippers or something. It's not like monetary. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's like plugola. It's not pola powder I got.

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<v Speaker 1>This is.

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<v Speaker 8>I cannot believe. I cannot believe what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is absolutely horrific that you two would

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<v Speaker 3>stoop to such such new lows. Yes, look at the time,

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