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<v Speaker 1>The drive blowing along on a Wednesday afternoon. Happy up

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<v Speaker 1>day two. Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to you the day early.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of sports action to come over the holiday and

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend that follows. A bunch of hoops included. They're

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<v Speaker 1>in some NBA Cup action. Continues on to discuss that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the very interesting Utah Jazz moment and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Beck, the ringer for the NBA Daily Assist today

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bout Time pub Howard, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you love? Love coming into the dulctone of Big

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<v Speaker 2>Hit Todden the Monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. That was just for you. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it great.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you for joining us each and every week, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as you do here on the station. Happy early Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>to you. What's the uh? What's the holiday look like

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<v Speaker 1>for the Backs?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have a long standing tradition that's more like friendsgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the fact that we live in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>our families are in California. So we will be heading

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<v Speaker 2>up to uh Westchester County, north of the city tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>to hang with some good friends of ours who've been

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<v Speaker 2>kind enough to take us in over the years. For

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<v Speaker 2>over a decade now. But first, of course, first porter,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that it is going to be raining

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<v Speaker 2>overnight and well through the morning, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>trudge out to uh Midtown Manhattan and watch the parade.

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<v Speaker 2>Is something we've been doing since our daughter was very small.

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<v Speaker 2>Again tradition with that same family who's taking us in

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<v Speaker 2>for Thanksgiving. And yeah, we're just stubborn and weird and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go sit there and get soaked and

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<v Speaker 2>watch balloons go by.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that. It's like such a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say stereotypical, like New York Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like what you actually think of Thanksgiving, the

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<v Speaker 1>Macy's Parade, you know, the the New York the friends

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the parade. I'm just going to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey with a bow and then cook it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's our Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's exactly how I thought things went in Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate you confirming it's everybody's just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's well, good happy hunting, good luck. I hope I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you can. Hope you can track down the cranberry

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<v Speaker 2>sauce too. Those are tricky though they're very evasive, as

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that the cans of cranberry sauce, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to really shoot very accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>The tags are hard to acquire as well, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we get all the fix. And speaking of that,

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<v Speaker 1>howurd what is the most underrated Thanksgiving dish?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, that's a good question, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because I feel like in the era of

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<v Speaker 2>social media where we can like just throw up poles

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<v Speaker 2>and lists and takes on everything Thanksgiving, like everything's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be ranked. Everybody's got to trash each other's like

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<v Speaker 2>favorite thing, like what you you like the marshmallow on

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<v Speaker 2>Yam's thing? You're crazy, like you know, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a single Thanksgiving dish. It's somebody Like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize until the last several years that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole contingent of people out there who think that

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<v Speaker 2>turkey is overrated, Like now, yeah, well, like what and

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<v Speaker 2>that Thanksgiving meals are overrated and the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. There's just too much social media, too many

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<v Speaker 2>takes too much time. I don't I don't, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what. I don't know what the underrated one is?

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<v Speaker 2>All I know is I love all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're a fan of the balance Thanksgiving roster.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just want to just just absolutely gorge myself. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all good. The only question is like how to

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<v Speaker 2>to to dole it out on that first time through

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<v Speaker 2>when you're putting on the plate because it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>enough room. You know you're gonna go back for a

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<v Speaker 2>second round, and I don't want to have too much

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<v Speaker 2>tur at the expense of you know, the sweet potatoes

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<v Speaker 2>or the homemade rabbioli that one of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>comes to this event every year makes. It's it's tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta I gotta save room for all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course I mean huge, huge, huge pumpkin pie

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<v Speaker 2>guy another thing that people have weirdly decided to go

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<v Speaker 2>contrarian on in recent years. But I love pumpkin pie.

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<v Speaker 2>I could eat it year round, And yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to save room for that.

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<v Speaker 1>See I liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>After all the years, you still haven't got it figured out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're trying out new things every year. On

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<v Speaker 3>that first time through, I find myself in the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing one year over. Did it on the rolls the

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<v Speaker 3>first time through, second time, you know, maybe too much turkey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and then you you try.

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<v Speaker 1>To paste it and space it.

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<v Speaker 3>But as a decision maker on a very important day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you've had to try and use different strategies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all a part of how blessed we really are.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a good role, but I'm thinking, actually the

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<v Speaker 2>strategy should be avoid the bread. Bread is filling, even

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<v Speaker 2>if even if it's the greatest freaking dinner role, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna you don't want to fill up on rolls.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much other good food.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is true. You you have to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vigilant with the bread and the stuffing because while it

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<v Speaker 1>is good. While a good a well cooked role is phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the stuffing is good, it's so it'll it'll fill

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<v Speaker 1>up your stomach immediately. So you gotta either save it

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<v Speaker 1>for last or just get a small serving go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Howard NBA cup action last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What had what had your uh? What had your attention?

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<v Speaker 1>Last night? The Lakers and the Suns go to battle. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix gets back their stars and they looked good in

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<v Speaker 1>doing so. Victor wembin Yama showed well against the Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>in there when they're the Rockets move on as the

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<v Speaker 1>winners in their group after beating the Timberwolves. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a good matchup between Milwaukee and Miami, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>Bulls get to win over Washington. What's what's had your

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<v Speaker 1>intenna's going with the NBA Cup and and what do

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<v Speaker 1>you make of the results from last night?

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<v Speaker 2>As you may recall, I don't care about the Cup

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<v Speaker 2>at all, So I'm just watching these games like I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of.

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<v Speaker 2>It is I mean it literally is. We can pretend

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<v Speaker 2>that there's something more at stake, and we can project

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look how hard they're playing. Teams play hard

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<v Speaker 2>in November. Team like they do? They just do. I

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<v Speaker 2>know people think they don't. Some other Cup has made

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<v Speaker 2>them play harder.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like very much projection by people. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some great games I watched. I was most at tuned

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<v Speaker 2>to Houston and Minnesota last night, and the Rockets are

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<v Speaker 2>just super impressive, and I think, you know, the Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 2>are still kind of figuring things out right, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>Evencenzo and and Randall, the two guys they got for

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<v Speaker 2>Karl Anthony Towns, Like they're still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>the chemistry there and fit and the rhythm and all

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<v Speaker 2>those things. But they had a nice, nice game last

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<v Speaker 2>night from from the rookie Dillingham. Uh so they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Conley's out, they got to figure out to do

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<v Speaker 2>a point guard and so so bling him. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>showed well. But but the Rockets in that game ire

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<v Speaker 2>just just super impressive. Like they are. They're athletic, they're long,

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<v Speaker 2>they're energetic, they are just playing their butts off. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like every second of the game. And they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>interesting right like they're I think they're third in the

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<v Speaker 2>West right now. Young team that made a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a leap last season, but it wasn't clear if that

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<v Speaker 2>was just one of those kind of late season surges.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this for real? The West really good? They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have one guy to just hang their hat on. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Jillen Green is really good, but is he gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a perennial All Star? I mean I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Jabari Smith's really good, but a perennial All Star shng

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<v Speaker 2>goun Like they're all really good, But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that you've got a top ten to top fifteen talent

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<v Speaker 2>there among any of those guys not guaranteed, but the

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<v Speaker 2>collection of them all. Yeah, and Amen Thompson and Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks and of course Fred van Vliet. Like it just works.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a team that really hard and has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of youth and athleticism. Emaio Duck has done

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<v Speaker 2>a great job there. I was, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say skeptical. I was. I was not completely sold in

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<v Speaker 2>the Rockets coming into the season, and right now it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard not to be. Even if they don't have a traditional,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cast of stars that you don't normally see

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<v Speaker 2>on a contender. And I'm not saying they are a contender,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're legitimately really good because of the collection of

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<v Speaker 2>talent they have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we're one month into this thing. Their

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<v Speaker 3>togetherness and their defensive culture is real. I love what

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<v Speaker 3>they've built all together, and like you said, they play really,

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<v Speaker 3>really hard. As you look at this first month, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many things that could change between now and

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the year, But thirty days into this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>in your eyes, what is.

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<v Speaker 1>Real to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's a great question. We're almost at

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty game mark. We're getting close. And that's usually

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<v Speaker 2>you know, teams always say, you know, twenty twenty five games,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe thirty in that's when things really have started to

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<v Speaker 2>settle into reality. And look, there's some surprises, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew the Cavs would be good, maybe top four in

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<v Speaker 2>the East, but seventeen and one, like, nobody saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 2>The Warriors have, I think, exceeded most people's expectations, even mine,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was always a Warrior's believer. They've been phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rockets we just mentioned, I'm still waiting. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a waiting seem mode on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of teams. Like the Bucks started out terribly. They've rebounded recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Giannis has now hurt, but the Bucks seem to have

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<v Speaker 2>finally kind of gotten some sense of who they are

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<v Speaker 2>now and some stability. The Pacers are kind of underachieving still.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nets are overachieving, which is just weird because the Nets,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a season set up for them to tank.

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<v Speaker 2>They orchestrated a move to get their their own draft

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<v Speaker 2>pick back from Houston on the belief that they would

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<v Speaker 2>be terrible, and instead Jordi Fernandez, their rookie head coach

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<v Speaker 2>has been incredible, and they're eight and ten, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not great record, but it's far better than

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<v Speaker 2>they were supposed to be. And they're blowing the tank,

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<v Speaker 2>they're blowing the Cooper X sweepstakes, and of course we're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the Sixers to get healthy. And I remain

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say a Sixers optimist, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to bury them until we get to a

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<v Speaker 2>point where either the record is so bad you know

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<v Speaker 2>in another month that you just you know that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no digging out of it, or if they're bad

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<v Speaker 2>when all their stars are actually healthy. Like the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing we haven't seen with the Sixers yet is what

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<v Speaker 2>happens when Tyree Spect see Paul George and Joel Embid

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<v Speaker 2>are actually all playing at the same time. Because that

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<v Speaker 2>They're very top heavy, and so as a result, when

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<v Speaker 2>three and thirteen and they look terrible and everyone's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to bury them, and there's been some drama as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still think that's a team that if those

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<v Speaker 2>three guys are healthy and playing the way we know

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<v Speaker 2>they can next spring. I don't think they're a team

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in the East is going to want to have

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<v Speaker 2>to make a deep playoff run. I think the skepticism

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<v Speaker 2>from everybody else comes with the yeah, but they're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to get healthy. Well, all right, we can't see

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<v Speaker 2>the future. I get why people believe that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think we need to wait and see if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see it in a little bit on this dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. Howard you mentioned, of course we're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ish games in for a lot of teams. That's

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<v Speaker 1>way too few games to get a good feel of

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<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy of the league. But it does appear we

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<v Speaker 1>have a little clear mark of delineation in the East

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<v Speaker 1>where Cleveland and Boston are kind of way out front

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<v Speaker 1>of just about everyone else in the conference. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that belongs in Tier one in the East with

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<v Speaker 1>Boston and Cleveland? And then on the second part of

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<v Speaker 1>teams within three and a half games of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>from one to ten. You can't really see a clear

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<v Speaker 1>mark of delineation. There is there a Tier one in

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<v Speaker 1>the West, and who may belong on.

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<v Speaker 2>That in the East. If you had asked me before

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<v Speaker 2>the season, I would have said Boston's in their own tier,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's a fight to decide who gets to

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<v Speaker 2>be their biggest threat, and whether that was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be New York, Milwaukee, Philly that would have been my list,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Cleveland hovering in there. I wasn't entirely sold

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<v Speaker 2>on the Cavaliers again, a first year head coach, not

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie head coach. Kenny Ackintson was head coach in

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<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn before, but Kenny in his first year with Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>doing an incredible job there, so I didn't see that coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that the Celtics, especially now the poor

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<v Speaker 2>zingis is back. Yes, by record, they're the second best

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<v Speaker 2>team in the East, but let's be real, they're the

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<v Speaker 2>defending champs. They've got everybody back and Peyton Pritchard's having

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible season so far too, so their depths looks

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<v Speaker 2>even better. The Celtics are still the favorites. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're still still Tier one, and I think Cleveland is

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<v Speaker 2>think the are still figuring things out with towns and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a you know a little bit of reshuffling

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<v Speaker 2>in their roster. They picked up Michel Bridges in the

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<v Speaker 2>off season. But I think some combination of Cleveland, New York,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Milwaukee and again maybe Philly those that's the group

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<v Speaker 2>that's battling it out to see who gets to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Celtics and see

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<v Speaker 2>if they can take them down. But I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics are still clearly the best team in the East,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless the West. I mean, I think everybody coming in

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<v Speaker 2>the season, it was kind of the consensus out there

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<v Speaker 2>that the Thunder was going to be their year. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've got a one game lead on the

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors and Rockets as we speak. They've had some injury

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<v Speaker 2>issues of their own. Obviously, chet Holmbrin's still out for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, Hartenstein, who was one of their big off

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<v Speaker 2>season pickups, was out for a while. The combination of

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<v Speaker 2>talent and depth, it's probably still Oklahoma. And then again

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<v Speaker 2>we're now saying, but who's that you know, who's in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix to challenge them, and that part's really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out, Like, are the Rockets, as we just discussed,

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<v Speaker 2>are they for real? Are they? Are they that level

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<v Speaker 2>of real? Are there? Are they ready with all that youth?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Warriors have a shot, but it still

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<v Speaker 2>feels like a stretch up with the Warriors in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a finals conversation, given you know, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of elite talent. After Steph, the Sons needed

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<v Speaker 2>to get healthy. They finally got guys back, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>in this conversation somewhere. The Grizzlies, you know, always having

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<v Speaker 2>health issues, but have a have an argument to make here.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Mavericks and Nuggets you know, are sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down there, you know, surprisingly low in the standings. The

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks obviously had injury issues with Luca being out. The

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets just can't quite refine the magic they show it

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<v Speaker 2>at times, and then they you know, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>crushed the other night by New York. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ruling out the Nuggets in this conversation, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ruling out the Mavericks in this conversation. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>only teams that I don't think I don't think either

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<v Speaker 2>of the LA teams are really in this Dell fate. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Minnesota will still be heard from. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Timberwolves will rise again in the West and be

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<v Speaker 2>part of this conversation. I don't know what to make

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<v Speaker 2>of the Sacramento Kings right now, but they should not

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<v Speaker 2>be eight and ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought they'd be better than they have been.

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<v Speaker 3>And I joke, I made the joke yesterday. Well, Jay

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<v Speaker 3>Crowder has been picked up. It's all fixed now. But

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<v Speaker 3>by no means did I have them, you know, hosting

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<v Speaker 3>the Western Conference finals. But they were big on trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take a step forward, and quite frankly, they've taken

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<v Speaker 3>a step back, and it looks bizarre on some of

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<v Speaker 3>the losses they've had. They've been lifeless at times like

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<v Speaker 3>that jumps out to me with a team that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of came in saying, all right, let's take a real

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<v Speaker 3>step forward. To me, the record is one thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the lifeless level of performance that jumps out at me.

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<v Speaker 3>Are there other teams out there just with the quality

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<v Speaker 3>of play that has surprised you in this early going.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the year. A little disappointed in the Indiana Paters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been a big tyrese Albert and guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's just not depending on the night, because I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this come and go. But you know, he's a player who,

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<v Speaker 2>on his talent alone and on some of his just

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<v Speaker 2>some of his accomplishments over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>you could say, Okay, Perennial All Star guy, who's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in the All NBA conversation, But he's you those

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<v Speaker 2>guys generally play with a certain amount of swagger and

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of consistent assertiveness, and especially when you're the

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<v Speaker 2>guy with the ball in your hands most of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you really need to always be aggressive in an attack mode.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying he's been passive. He just some

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<v Speaker 2>of the swagger that I have loved about him, where

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<v Speaker 2>he just has a confidence out there and he's trash

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<v Speaker 2>talking and he's you know, you know, just just enjoying himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's fun to watch when he's at his best.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like some of that spark has been dimmer

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<v Speaker 2>this season or just inconsistent. But the Pages were a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of a presence in the East, and right

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<v Speaker 2>now it feels like they're they're just missing something. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what what you know, what you could put

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<v Speaker 2>a finger on, but it feels like they're just a

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, are most looking forward to maybe uh storylines that

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're most dialed into heading into uh little Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>break for us here on on on the radio side,

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<v Speaker 1>we got four days off before we're back on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday. Give us, uh, give us the lowdown

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<v Speaker 1>on what we may see in the time in between.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not looked ahead at the games. Obviously. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole NBA is off tomorrow, happily, so we get cord ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that is. I will not

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<v Speaker 2>be watching football. I'll watch a parade and then I

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<v Speaker 2>will gorge myself. But no, I mean, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA picks back up on Friday. There's nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there's any one thing this weekend. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>more just kind of curious, you know, over the next

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks how things settle in. Because December fifteenth is

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<v Speaker 2>the unofficial startup trade season. It never really actually happens

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<v Speaker 2>that way, but that's when everybody signed over the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Most guys signed over the summer anyway can be traded.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are getting close to the point as we

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<v Speaker 2>opened the discussion with of teams having to decide, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>are we actually this good? Cool? Are we actually this bad?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing now? Like the Nets, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying this facetiously, the Nets cannot afford to be this good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have to start trading some of these pieces

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<v Speaker 2>because they need to be They need to be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got their pick and they and they need a

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<v Speaker 2>franchise star and they don't have that on their roster now.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's nice to have a bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 2>overachieving and winning games unexpectedly. It's fun for the fans,

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<v Speaker 2>but they need to probably trade like a shrewder and

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<v Speaker 2>Dorian Finney Smith. So I'm more curious to see if

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<v Speaker 2>teams get some clarity in the next few weeks. The

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans Pelicans were supposed to be at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the better teams in the West, but injuries

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<v Speaker 2>have just wrecked them, and you know, they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>I think despite all of that, they've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting talent there and you know, are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to decide maybe this is a year to take a

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<v Speaker 2>step back, given that things are already kind of out

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<v Speaker 2>of control and they're four and fourteen. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>decisions like that that I think you know are going

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<v Speaker 2>to come into focus over the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah, nothing this weekend, but over the next

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks, I think we start to get a clear

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<v Speaker 2>picture of what the actual pecking order is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's kind of what we come to you for anyway, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily asking you to break down the Lakers OKC

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<v Speaker 1>matchup in specificity. We're we're talking big picture NBA and

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<v Speaker 1>the storylines as the season goes along with one. Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Beck of the Ringer at Howard Beck makes it easy

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<v Speaker 1>on all the social media as you can just search

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<v Speaker 1>for him there and always appreciate his time. Howard, Happy holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll catch up with you. Actually not

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<v Speaker 1>next week. It depends on your schedule. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're busy for the next little while, so we'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>up with you whenever we can over the next three

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great. Happy holidays, guys, have a good one. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk soon, all right, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the parade and the rain right yeah. Enjoy the football,

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Beck of The Ringer, Brought to you by our

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