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can move Wednesday, let's do it. So Marvel and ms

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you they knew like, oh yeah, Superman's drop on Wednesday.

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And this is to the point where in our gua

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chat usually we share news whatnot. Uh, nobody shared the

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Ironheart trailer and Chris message we have a Marvel line

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chat with me, Chris, Brent, and David the new host

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and host of The Gimmick. Check out the Gimmick. I

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should promote that Gimmick new episode this Saturday with the

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boys because I'm busy with Emily's birthday and we got

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a barbecue going on, so they're doing the podcast, but

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then very excited. Season two of GMO starts weeks one

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to five. Very excited. Yeah, every roun for you, David,

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lucky for him. We're starting over so the seasons because

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there's new DLC and new stuff they added, so we're

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gonna start over and start the same fan But uh yeah,

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I'm excited. But yeah, check out every month starting now,

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we're gonna do an hour and a half stream of

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gmode and do the weeks one to five. But anyway,

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so we were like, oh, that's really dumbe for them

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to put a trailer, saying Chris, he's busy, you know,

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fucking he's a principal and the school year. And he's like, oh,

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didn't drop that trailer, Like, oh no, they still dropped it.

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one dropped it. This is not indicative of the quality

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of the trailer. It's just indicative of like there's been

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very little promotion for Ironheart, and it's just like the

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day you're gonna drop the trailers the same day Supermower.

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talk or like the biggest thing I've seen joked about

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because Mike brought it up. God, I know his real name, Dave.

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making the jokes. Like the most people I've talked about

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is they're previewing this using Coogler's name all over. Like

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you see the Ironhart poster, it's like Ironheart produced by

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Ryan fucking Coogler, you know, like in the sneak peak

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producing this, but like I don't think he directed episodes.

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which is still gonna be a big role, right, But

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it just feels like this It feels mean to say,

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but it feels like the show's kind of dead on arrival.

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week where it's just like I think there's a sense

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of like I don't know if I'm ever gonna see

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this character ever again after this, you know, And I

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think like Marvel knows that. I think we all know that.

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the trailer. It's like, yeah, it just looks like General Fair.

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the villain because the Hood has been just a big

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this for years. They brought back for what if? Why

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like a fun song. Like to me, he just felt

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for season two of Daredevil. I feel like we kind

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of all figured that was gonna happen, but I think

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it's smart to like get it out there. She's gonna

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be filming, and I think they'll use her kind of

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similar as like Frank when it's like, oh, well, we've confirmed,

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and there's always like a lot of promotion like hinting

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or showing them off, but you don't know how much

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you're gonna get them where you're gonna get them. And

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I think they're gonna do the exact same kind of

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roll call with her, because again we still't I don't

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think they've confirmed that Frank is in season two Daredevil

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because we know he is a special, right, maybe he

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will be eventually, but I could see there being a

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world where you're getting the Punisher in a special and

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he can't make it for the show, right, whatever it

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may be. So I think it's smart bringing back that

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character being interesting to see how they're gonna use her

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if they can bring back other Defenders. And I'm very

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excited because it got me ten points in the draft

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because we added a new category this year if a

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character is announced for a project and lone behold, fucking

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Kirsten Ritter gonn announced for that. So I'm very excited.

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But you never watched Jessica Jones.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, I haven't. I didn't even watched Defenders, so

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I haven't seen right, any Christian Ritter in the Marvel universe.

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So I'm I think it's really cool. I'm a fan

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of hers. I feel like I haven't seen enough projects

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of hers, but I've like she's an interesting actress where

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I haven't seen like anything led by her but just appearances.

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And I feel like all of cameos are just they

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singe in my brain, probably just to the quality of

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the performance. Yeah, freaking bad just popped up a couple

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of times, and some old ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah give me no Jessica Jones Red Show for that one.

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You know, no season one? That's okay, sure, but that

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would be it because season one, you could argue, is

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the best show, like best single season on Netflix, Marble,

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It's damn good, David Tenn and is Killgrave is fantastic,

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It's amazing, And then season two and three are massive

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nose dives. Those are tough Binge reviews for Dylan and

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I and to get through it was, yeah, not not good,

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but yeah, no, curious to see what happens going forward. Obviously,

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it's great to hear that we're getting this and it's

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around the corner, so we'll see