Speaker 1: So you know it's flinning. Last time we cast Kirkling,
I was talking. I think it was maybe last Sipson
when now we were like, oh yeah, the Ironheart has
set the record for the shortest amount of time between
an MSU project releasing and a trailer coming out, which
you know obviously still the record. I think it's like
just under forty days, orse forty days, and then you know,
I think it was Monday, maybe Sunday. It was known
like hey, Superman chair is coming Wednesday, because I I
messaged you, Kirkle and I was like, yeah's if you
can move Wednesday, let's do it. So Marvel and ms
you they knew like, oh yeah, Superman's drop on Wednesday.
And this is to the point where in our gua
chat usually we share news whatnot. Uh, nobody shared the
Ironheart trailer and Chris message we have a Marvel line
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so we were like, oh, that's really dumbe for them
to put a trailer, saying Chris, he's busy, you know,
fucking he's a principal and the school year. And he's like, oh,
I get probably, you know if I know my man here.
But he's like, oh, I guess they were smart. They
didn't drop that trailer, Like, oh no, they still dropped it.
And I even went back in our discord like, no
one dropped it. This is not indicative of the quality
of the trailer. It's just indicative of like there's been
very little promotion for Ironheart, and it's just like the
day you're gonna drop the trailers the same day Supermower.
This didn't even make a blip on the radar like
talk or like the biggest thing I've seen joked about
because Mike brought it up. God, I know his real name, Dave.
I was gonna call him film. I know he's been
joking back. Just you know, that's a super own name.
I know him personally, but he's the same thing as
making the jokes. Like the most people I've talked about
is they're previewing this using Coogler's name all over. Like
you see the Ironhart poster, it's like Ironheart produced by
Ryan fucking Coogler, you know, like in the sneak peak
yesterday it was Ryan Kugler, and like, yeah, he is
producing this, but like I don't think he directed episodes.
I don't think he wrote episodes. He's just like producing,
which is still gonna be a big role, right, But
it just feels like this It feels mean to say,
but it feels like the show's kind of dead on arrival.
And I also, I think I said the city last
week where it's just like I think there's a sense
of like I don't know if I'm ever gonna see
this character ever again after this, you know, And I
think like Marvel knows that. I think we all know that.
There's just like a sense of like is this really
like an actual thing, Like are you getting behind this
or are we just waiting five more years and you're
gonna recast iron Man and we're back, right. I thought
this trailer was like good, but like didn't get me
overly excited. I don't think Ironheart needed a direct spin
off right after Black Panther. I just I'm not excited
for this for the real word stuff, but also for
the trailer. It's like, yeah, it just looks like General Fair.
Who knows. I end up really liking Agatha and obviously Thunderbolts.
Like the trailers, I didn't think we were bad, but
they didn't make me super excited, So maybe this can
be that again where my low expectations can do that.
They did reveal that they're dropping the first three episodes
week one and then the last wee will go weekly,
which I'm kind of happy with because even here to
Behind the Fourth Wall a geek, first, we were like, oh,
are we gonna review all vinronhired? Or is just gonna
be like a cutout, because like, I don't know how
this show's gonna do. But with it only being four weeks, like, okay,
we can record retros and stuff around it. So yeah,
I know, if they are trying to promote this, not
a good day to drop this. They shouldn't have dropped
this during Superman. But I thought the trailer was good
but didn't didn't get me less or more excited, just like, yeah,
this is the thing that's happening. I like the actress
that plays Dominic. I think you her name is Dominic
Thorne or something like that. I like her. I like
Anthony Ramos, who you know, is the bad guy it twisters,
Dana Old, Aaron Reich. I'm liking more and more as
the years go on, Like he was great and fair play.
I really liked him in Oppenheimer, so obviously he's gone
past the black hole that was Solo. But this did
nothing for me as far as moving the meter. I
guess the only thing can say is like, at least
it didn't look awful. That's yeah, I can say.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think I'm right there with you.
This trailer reminded me of Miss Marvel, and there was
some good stuff in Miss Marvel. I think, like the
best thing I could like get out of that comparison
would be I really loved Amon's like performance of Kamala,
and I did like Ironheart like small appearance in Wakata Forever.
So from what I saw here, there wasn't any like
red flags around the character itself. So I'm hoping I
can just at least enjoy the character and just kind
of the adventure surrounding her. That's kind of like my
best case expectation, and if it's anything better than that,
I think that's a win for sure. But yeah, it
just had it had a certain because yeah, I think
I agree with you. I don't think it's a bad trailer,
but it just had a certain something to it where
it's funny, we're just talking like the brightness what the
Superman trailer had. Like this, this had like a filter
on it. But I can't pin on what it is,
but it just in my mind, it makes me think
of Miss Marvel, which I didn't think looked bad like
going into it. Obviously, I think it like steep decline
as the season was going on in quality, I think
it just got worse and worse. But I was at
least sold on the trailer, and the trailer just seems
to be that quality, so hopefully it's it's better than
what we got there. And yeah, I wasn't treat by
the villain because the Hood has been just a big
mystery I think since uh.
Speaker 1: Great character. Sorry, great what if episode. I wasn't there
for that review, but that was good stuff there.
Speaker 2: Great Marvel snap card. So I have high expectations for
this character. And I kind of forgot he was the
Hood until he is the obvious Hood on and he's
shooting his gun there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I see down below you have the trailers
there something you want to watch from the trailer.
Speaker 2: Just Ryan Coogler, I just wanted to do in case
you missed that. Yeah, he's a big part of this.
Speaker 1: It's a big part of you play me, won't. But
I don't think I have anything specifically.
Speaker 2: I just assumed because the note said, uh, ironheart breakdown,
you know.
Speaker 1: But I guess it did. But that was before I
watched this trail like an hour ago.
Speaker 2: You know what it's been demoted. It's it's walking the plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're talking about it. Plot is okay, she
wants to make some of the iconic she's getting involved
the Hood. Who's going to turn into a life of crime.
She's going to realize, hey, I shouldn't be doing this,
and then Theo's gonna like, I don't like that, and
then she's they're gonna fight, and that's what's gonna happen.
And then the only thing I think we've talked was
before Gold there and Ran is like rumored to be
playing Obadiah stay Sun, which is kind of funny because like, okay,
like you know, look enough like what I was, we'll
see what happened. So has a trailer back up like
they go they do this whole thing right where she
goes down to this guy's basement and there's all these
weapons and they're kind of making jokes and everything like this.
I don't know what the fuck's going on. I've said
this for years. They brought back for what if? Why
is this character not justin hammer? Why is she not
talking too? Because the whole joke I feel like it's
like no, no, no. At the end with all nern Reich, Okay, sorry, yeah,
when it's just like it's like a bunch of weapons,
but they're like making jokes and he seems like, oh,
why you know, my bunker's really hidden and he says
something like you being secretive and they're like, oh what
about that sign? It's like, oh, there's nothing wrong about
like a fun song. Like to me, he just felt
very justin Hammer quote coded and I do not understand why.
And I know there's rumors he was supposed to come
back for Armor Wards, but Armors is fucking dead, so
it's like that's gone. So it's just I don't know why.
Like between Iron Man two, now that guy won an
Academy Award, you can say Academy Award winner, saw Sam
Rockwell is an ironheart, but now they are all in
thereon Reich, which who knows, maybe he wouldn't do it,
but yeah, no, suit looks cool'd be some fun action.
But I I just feel like it's this is a
situation where we know exactly what to expect with this show.
Maybe it's gonna be like Thunderbolts, where it's like, oh,
this can just be suicide squad, right, and it was
two point, but we got something more. My worries just
like I said, here, she does some crime, putting her
break off. They fight, yet did da. It's nice to
see some of these nighttime shots in the trailer though,
break and see stuff, so I'll give them that kudos
as well too, where you can clearly see what's happening
in the action like this guy, this is fucking justin hammer,
like look at his whole setup.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, so, yeah, fair enough, I agree with you. Yeah, no,
I I'm a big fan of CGI usage in nighttime shots,
not so much of the daytime shots. So the more,
the more, the merrier. I think the first time I saw,
like the images of the trailer of her in the suits,
it looked a lot worse than it did like actually
watching the trailer. So uh, yeah, I know, I think
it looks pretty good. And yeah, I don't really have
anything else that It's just here's the fun thing.
Speaker 1: You talk about the suit how much? So it's six episodes.
You don't know the runtime of them all. What is
the percentage of how much she's in the.
Speaker 2: Suit, like percentage of the whole show?
Speaker 1: Whole show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that would translate minutes wise.
Speaker 1: How many episodes it's six, Let's say each episode's half
an hour, it's not, or even let's say it's an hour. Well,
it's tough because that goes I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying Okay, I was gonna say even less. I was
gonna say, like less than twenty minutes. I think of
total runtime. God, at least like that version of the suit,
I could see her using like gadgets maybe you know, yeah,
cheap gadgets there, but to her like fully suited up
like how we saw in that last kind of shot there. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be less than twenty minutes total.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's gonna be a lot of
her using gadgets and trickery and all that stuff. But yeah,
which could be fun.
Speaker 2: You know, we can not have to hide behind a
CGI quality barrier where if they I don't know, it
didn't refine it that much. It stands out in a
log truck setting in a specific episode. But yeah, we'll
wait and see. I'm just not very high on that one.
I'm kind of surprised. Uh, you know, we even got
this project at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Well that was that was back in the day when
they just want a bunch of stuff for Disney Plus.
Right now we're not in that situation. But yeah, you know,
plans change.
Speaker 2: We could could have just backgirled it. Wow, I I
won't say that until I see it. You know, maybe
maybe we're tall if I'm ranking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh well, you know what's not getting backgirled is
Jessica Jones. I won't have to much sayd on this,
but yesterday they confirmed confirmed Jessica Jones it's coming back
for season two of Daredevil. I feel like we kind
of all figured that was gonna happen, but I think
it's smart to like get it out there. She's gonna
be filming, and I think they'll use her kind of
similar as like Frank when it's like, oh, well, we've confirmed,
and there's always like a lot of promotion like hinting
or showing them off, but you don't know how much
you're gonna get them where you're gonna get them. And
I think they're gonna do the exact same kind of
roll call with her, because again we still't I don't
think they've confirmed that Frank is in season two Daredevil
because we know he is a special, right, maybe he
will be eventually, but I could see there being a
world where you're getting the Punisher in a special and
he can't make it for the show, right, whatever it
may be. So I think it's smart bringing back that
character being interesting to see how they're gonna use her
if they can bring back other Defenders. And I'm very
excited because it got me ten points in the draft
because we added a new category this year if a
character is announced for a project and lone behold, fucking
Kirsten Ritter gonn announced for that. So I'm very excited.
But you never watched Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I haven't. I didn't even watched Defenders, so
I haven't seen right, any Christian Ritter in the Marvel universe.
So I'm I think it's really cool. I'm a fan
of hers. I feel like I haven't seen enough projects
of hers, but I've like she's an interesting actress where
I haven't seen like anything led by her but just appearances.
And I feel like all of cameos are just they
singe in my brain, probably just to the quality of
the performance. Yeah, freaking bad just popped up a couple
of times, and some old ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah give me no Jessica Jones Red Show for that one.
You know, no season one? That's okay, sure, but that
would be it because season one, you could argue, is
the best show, like best single season on Netflix, Marble,
It's damn good, David Tenn and is Killgrave is fantastic,
It's amazing, And then season two and three are massive
nose dives. Those are tough Binge reviews for Dylan and
I and to get through it was, yeah, not not good,
but yeah, no, curious to see what happens going forward. Obviously,
it's great to hear that we're getting this and it's
around the corner, so we'll see