WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:15.560 Huh Hey, everybody, welcome to Rose Pricks. 2 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:20.559 It's me Stephanie Wilder Taylor. I'm here with Cecily Nobler. Bye. 3 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:27.039 Mmm hello, mm hm oh did I catch I was 4 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:27.600 taking water? 5 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:29.239 I was taking a little bit of sip of water? 6 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:32.479 Did I catch you at a bad time? 7 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:33.000 Are you? 8 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:37.520 Are you in the middle of something? Yeah, I'm could 9 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.520 you imagine you're like I do the I'm sorry what. 10 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.439 I just I'm sending an email. Stephanie, thank you for 11 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.799 sending an email right now. And I'm doing that. 12 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.560 Listen. One thing about one thing to know about us 13 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:57.039 is we're very good at multitasking. So I'm at the 14 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:01.560 bank right now opening an account. So just bear with me. 15 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.400 I'll just be sometimes I'll be talking to like the 16 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:06.840 account manager Butler. 17 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:08.719 Yeah, sorry, can you Yeah. 18 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.040 I'll bring the papers in it the paper. 19 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:12.879 I'll bring the papers. 20 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.959 Can I just tell you? Because this is the time, 21 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.480 you say, I told you I'm bout at improv God, 22 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:21.400 Little Tommy. 23 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:23.760 I made fun of my friend the other day who's 24 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.680 a comic, because he was trying to do a joke 25 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:26.920 and he was like something like, you know, a little 26 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:27.799 Jimmy or little Tommy. 27 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.680 Can we stop with Jimmy and Tommy. It's not the seventies. 28 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.920 You could come up with a better name for like 29 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.120 the fake child you're referencing, or a joke. I don't 30 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:39.799 think it has to be Timmy, A little Timmy. 31 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:44.280 Yeah, that's so true. God, that's so true. 32 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.480 That's why it's funny. 33 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:50.040 But I was just gonna say with the papers, I 34 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.000 just have to say this one thing. When I worked 35 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.560 for Richard Dreyfus, my friend Greg and I we both 36 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.079 worked there at the same time, and then our friend 37 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.640 Ken worked there. We all were all friends because we 38 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.560 worked at it. Well, they knew each other from college, 39 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.200 but we worked for Richard Dreyfus. And so the way 40 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.400 that they did the impression, they could all do an 41 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.719 impression of him. So I copied their impression and it 42 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.000 would just be this because his assistant was named Audrey, 43 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:14.879 so and there he's from New York. So you'd called 44 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:19.280 me like, Audrey, can you get me the papers? And 45 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.159 so anytime I hear the word papers, I think of 46 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:26.560 my old boss, Richard Dreyfus, Audrey, can you get me 47 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:27.280 the papers? 48 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:29.639 Well, the funny thing about that is like nothing is 49 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.560 on paper anymore, so it would just be like, can 50 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.719 you bring up the website? I know, I'm just saying 51 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:37.080 now now, it would be it would go the way 52 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.319 of the Tommy and Timmy and and such, because you'd 53 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.479 be like, who's you is bringing out papers? 54 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.520 Yeah? Well, Audrey was. I don't know if she's with 55 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:47.400 us now, but she was. 56 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.520 She was already pretty up there and this was quite 57 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.039 some time ago, so she probably was still happy to 58 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.360 work with the papers. 59 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:57.759 Yeah, the website, yes, I'm sure. 60 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:03.120 Okay, okay, so today to day. God, see that's my 61 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.639 That's one of my favorite impressions of yours. It would 62 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:07.879 endlessly make me laugh. When we were talking about The 63 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.800 Bachelor and you would do it ran. 64 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:12.680 God made me. 65 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.199 I mean I just said to that we're gonna go 66 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.240 and prop we're gonna do sweets. I mean, listen, we 67 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.680 got a thing on our Rose Pregs Facebook page from 68 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.719 I believe our friend Todd listener Todd, and He's like, 69 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:29.840 when are we going to get some Bachelor stuff? And 70 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:32.000 I'm thinking, why would you even want that? 71 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.719 I get it. It's really all enjoyed. I mean that 72 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:38.159 that was how the show started. 73 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.120 And I can know it's Rose Pregs. 74 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.840 I think people just even though we all know that 75 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.719 show sucks, it's still they shouldn't have taken it away 76 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:47.639 from us completely. 77 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.199 Like, you know, I think I was happy for the break. 78 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.840 It's coming back, you guys, don't worry. We're going to 79 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:54.280 cover it. 80 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.240 When's it coming back? Though? Next year? Well that's far away. 81 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.400 We might not even we're going to be like, what's 82 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:07.919 the Bachelor? It's I mean, it's already so not. What 83 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.800 do you call it antiquated? It's antiquated. Yes, it is 84 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.360 very antiquated. Antiquated. It's ridiculous, and it was. It was 85 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.160 a chore personally me, but it was fun to mock. 86 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:22.560 That's true. I don't miss it. You see, this is 87 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.879 the thing you rewrite history a little bit and this 88 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:29.480 is different. But you loved Golden Yes, every episode I cried. 89 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:30.000 I loved it. 90 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:31.879 Well, not only the first season. 91 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.079 I kind of they got me a few times, but 92 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.560 I didn't really love Joan and I certainly didn't like 93 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.399 the last guy. But the first season with Scary one 94 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:46.759 point zero, who was the last guy I've forgotten? Oh fuck, 95 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.439 that was bad. It's like they take everything and they 96 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.120 fuck it up. Like the first season of The Golden 97 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:54.560 Bachelor was beautiful. 98 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:56.519 Oh my god, I put all of that out of 99 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.600 my head. I totally forgot about me. I I think 100 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.839 even if you were if you offered me a million 101 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.160 dollars right now and you were like and I couldn't 102 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.480 look at anything, and you were just like, who who 103 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.160 was the last Golden Bachelor season, I do not think 104 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:12.199 I could come up with it. 105 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.040 I mean it just went by the way, Like, you 106 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:16.759 don't need to keep that in your mind? It was 107 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:17.480 so worthy. 108 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:20.920 No, and you can't. You can't keep everything in your mind. 109 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.000 It's not it's not fair to your mind, right, especially 110 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:25.560 when you're our age, because you have a lot of 111 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.680 other stuff, you've built up stuff over the years, you know, 112 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.759 not to mention, like your social Security number. Like there's 113 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.879 a lot of numbers and people and people we've met, 114 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:36.800 and we don't have room for all of it. Something 115 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:38.160 has to go, and Mel had to go. 116 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.680 Mel definitely had to go. But sometimes social sometimes numbers 117 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.560 that you've known forever are starting to go too. I'm like, Okay, 118 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:46.120 well I guess I'm not going to know that forever. 119 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:52.160 Yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, speaking of the Bachelor, maybe 120 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.560 I should start with my Bachelor stories and uh, okay, 121 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.360 and so for one, let's see, this is a Taylor 122 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.959 to blow on my mouse because Okay, Taylor Frankie Paul 123 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.160 really wants Okay, this is exactly tied into this is 124 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:14.240 a very good segue because Taylor Frankie Paul really wants 125 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.399 people to see her Bachelorette season, which I'm like, girl, 126 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.959 you need to take a break. First of all, yes, 127 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.199 we needed a break, but you know who really needs 128 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:29.439 a break is Taylor Frankie Paul. Like, Taylor, stop, this 129 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.279 is not going to be good for your mental health. 130 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:35.040 I mean, this woman is being basically like sued for 131 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:42.160 custody of all of her kids. She's had countless CPS investigations, 132 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.560 and you're like, you're putting out, You're signing a petition 133 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.319 because you're like, look, how many fans want to see 134 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:52.839 my Bachelorette season? I mean, this is not helping her case. 135 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.480 This is off from TMZ. It says Taylor Frankie Paul, 136 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.160 still holding out hopes fans might want to want to 137 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.399 see her follow Love on the Bachelorette, sharing a petition 138 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.480 that calls for ABC to air the dang thing. And 139 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:09.040 it's got a lot of signatures. Okay, So she hosted 140 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.920 a link to her Instagram story telling her fans she 141 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:19.439 loved them for making this you know this petition and 142 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.079 admitted signing it herself. And then there's a you can 143 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.959 see there's a screenshot of her story that has a 144 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.560 big picture of her and it says release the unaired 145 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.360 season of The Bachelorette of Taylor Frankie Paul. And then 146 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.519 she has a big click here to sign the petition, 147 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.279 and then she writes, you guys started a petition for 148 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.959 the show. I love you all. I signed and left 149 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:45.439 the link. Yeah, it's this is just crazy to me. 150 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.040 So she says she shared the full demand letter from 151 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.720 the petition, which argues fans have been deprived of watching 152 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.920 the star on a once in a lifetime journey. Her 153 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.160 fans say they followed her and quote know her heart. 154 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.879 Oh I guess so they know better than her baby 155 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.000 daddy's who are suing her. But we know her heart. 156 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.360 You know? How do we know? Because we've seen her. 157 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.839 We've seen her on TV. We've seen her on her TVs. 158 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:15.439 You know, I think I may have said this to 159 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.439 you or my friend who works on the show. I 160 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.600 was like, I at some point think that they should. 161 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:21.000 I think I said it to him. I was like, 162 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:24.879 they should sue her. The Bachelor lost advertising money. They 163 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.319 should fucking sue her because she is like really giving 164 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.560 the show a bad name, continuing. It's not even like 165 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.600 they go, Okay, all this stuff is coming out and 166 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.360 obviously there's you're under some great pressure, so we're gonna 167 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.240 hold on this. She won't stop. I don't see why 168 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:41.080 ABC doesn't suit her. 169 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.000 I think they probably would if they felt like a 170 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.360 bad case. But I don't think it is if you 171 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.000 have a case because she didn't. Maybe wasn't honest about 172 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.960 you know, I'm sure, but they already knew the information. 173 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.200 Everything she did had already been done before she went 174 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.559 on the show. So but now her behavior is so absurd, 175 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.799 like but none of her But that's because her behavior 176 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.399 is like mental health. Like she could argue that all 177 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.480 of this stuff has to do with what happened to 178 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.480 her and the show being canceled and all of that, 179 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.200 you know what I mean, because because the people suing 180 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.399 her are kind of suing her for stuff that happened before, 181 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.879 although there is new stuff. Yeah, you know what, You're right, 182 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.240 there's new stuff. But remember, even with the new stuff, 183 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.399 it's going to be difficult to indict her on the 184 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.399 new stuff because they have to prove it. But look 185 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:32.159 at how much money they spent to make the show. 186 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.759 Plus they lost all that ad money. I mean that's 187 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.480 all millions and millions. Yeah, but they could say that's 188 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.519 up to that's that's on them, Like they made that decision. 189 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.639 You know, they could have if I were them. If 190 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.159 I were in charge, I guess it's good that I'm not. 191 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.679 I would air it when you like for the money. 192 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.879 If I were in charge of like from a money 193 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:54.200 from a business standpoint, I'd be. 194 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.480 Like, I'll just put it on Hulu whatever. 195 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.279 And they were going to do that. They were that 196 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.000 was the plan. That was like reality stealing, and then 197 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.200 they just didn't because more shit came out. 198 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.759 Yeah, I think on her. So that's the lawsuit. I 199 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:10.519 don't know where they're going to get money. Maybe it 200 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:12.720 just looks so bad to sue someone this fucked up 201 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.039 and was like the mother of kid. 202 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.080 You know, like maybe who do you sue? Who do 203 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:22.600 you even sue? You're not going to get money from her, right, And. 204 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.759 I don't think she made that much money. I don't 205 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.720 think you make so much money doing it either. I 206 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.000 think it's more for just money to make though. 207 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.759 That's costs at least fifty thousand dollars an episode. How 208 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:36.159 many episodes did they have so even I mean that's 209 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.279 that's just for all the people that have to get 210 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.039 paid to be in that room with cameras for twelve 211 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.679 hours a day. I mean, that's costs a lot to 212 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.879 make those shows. Oh, way more than fifty thousand dollars 213 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.440 an episode. Well, ours, ours was Ready for Love. Well, 214 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.200 I don't remember what the total was. Yeah, it was 215 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.360 a lot more than that because we are budget to 216 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.240 do the dates because I was in the story production 217 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:01.000 part was ten. We had ten thousand per date, which 218 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.440 is very low. That was and that was NBC, like 219 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:06.639 major network, and they were like, you have ten thousand 220 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:07.600 to spend on your date. 221 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.759 Here's the episodic production budget for The Bachelor and Bachelorette 222 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:14.440 is estimated to be between two million and five million 223 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:15.320 per episode. 224 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:16.440 Oh my god. 225 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.720 So then that costs twenty five million dollars to make, 226 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.200 plus they cost they cost all their ads, so an. 227 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:25.000 Entire season, total production costs run roughly forty million to 228 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:27.200 sixty million excluding marketing. 229 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.279 Well that's a little insane, yeah itself. 230 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.279 Yeah, I would even it's like shot on like a 231 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:35.399 I mean, I guess that's why they go on location 232 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:37.039 or they take those trips. But they're all they all 233 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.320 seem paid for by ad advertisers, So then you lose 234 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.159 all the ad money. They're like, you came to Iceland. 235 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.759 You know, we gave you all this money to use 236 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.399 our planes and do all this stuff, and then you 237 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.360 didn't air it, so you have to pay us back. 238 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.159 I made up Iceland. I don't didn't go there. You know, 239 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.799 Let's move on to owse them money. Yeah, yeah, let's 240 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:57.120 move on. 241 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.240 I have another I have another Bachelor related story which 242 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:04.919 is pretty interesting and funny to me. It's old, okay, 243 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.639 I mean it's it's new, but it's regarding old people. 244 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.840 But okay, Trista Sutter did you know this? And Courtney 245 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:17.000 Robertson confront each other in a tense podcast interview and 246 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.600 this is for this is like for real Courtney, And 247 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.919 I'm going to say right now, I'm not on Courtney's side. 248 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.759 She seems difficult. It's kind of mean. 249 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:27.279 PIRI. 250 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.600 I think Trista Sutter's like girl I'm just minding my 251 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.480 own business, and you're just a bit trying to do ayahuasca. 252 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.080 Remember her whole big breakup. We're all just do an 253 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:36.879 ayahuasca here. 254 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:42.320 Yeah, Which you're talking about Courtney. No, I'm talking about Trista. 255 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.200 Remember Ryan. They had a weird like split for a 256 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:46.840 minute or people thought they were splitting. 257 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.279 No, they because she went and did that show, the 258 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.639 one that all these reality stars go do. She went 259 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.600 and did the. 260 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.320 They She had a whole thing. I'm going to look 261 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.080 it up because I know I'm not making this up. 262 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.120 There was a whole thing about her doing some kind 263 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:02.039 of thing like that. 264 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:06.200 She was never broken up with him. They were, they were. 265 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:09.799 It was. It was they were distant because she had 266 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.919 to go and do the reality show and she couldn't 267 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.120 talk about where she was, so people made they broke 268 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.440 up anyway, it doesn't really matter. I'm going to read 269 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.840 you this article. Okay. So Trista and Courtney addressed an 270 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:25.679 ongoing feud during a podcast interview. So during the almost 271 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.919 Famous with your Girl from Real Housewives of Rhode Island, 272 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.879 iocon Ayah Connetty or whatever. Yeah, Ashley Ayah Connetty. Okay, 273 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.320 So they confront, they opened up about issues in their relationship. 274 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.519 So the candid conversation came on the heels of hosts 275 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:49.519 Ben and Ashley's Oh God annual pickleball event in Lake Tahoe. 276 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.519 How long has pickleball been a thing that now you 277 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:53.879 have a pickleball event? 278 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:56.639 Makes no sense? No, I hate it. 279 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.440 Okay, it's not a secret. So this is Ashley talking. 280 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.159 It's not a secret that there's also been tension with 281 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.840 some of us in the room, and today today we're 282 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.600 going to do something different and clear the air. Sarah Fillings, 283 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:14.480 maybe come to a resolution. That's the goal anyway. Okay, 284 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:20.039 So Sutter began by saying, before this weekend, I was fine. 285 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.240 Then she brought up a conversation Robertson had during a 286 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.879 twenty fourteen podcast appearance. You're not going to like this 287 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.840 because I don't, Okay, around the time her memoir Confessions 288 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.039 of a Reality Show Villain came out. So this was 289 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.799 top of mine because Trista gave the episode a re 290 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.600 listen before the weekend. You know, you know how you do, 291 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.720 You're like this bitch, right, Like, let me go re 292 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:45.919 listen to this and see if I'm like if I 293 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.159 overreacted at the time, or if I'm still feeling mad 294 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.799 because I'm about to see her. Okay, so she says 295 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.120 the host of the show called me a cunt, but 296 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.720 you laughed, Sutter said, to which Robertson replied, well, I 297 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.639 nervous laugh when I'm uncomfortable, which is not actually two 298 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:03.720 because true, because we're going to find out later that 299 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:08.039 she doesn't like Trista. She thinks she's like fake or whatever. 300 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.240 But so don't sit there, just go like, yeah, well, 301 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:12.960 because I don't know, I kind of thought you were 302 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.320 a hunt or something like. Don't go oh, I just 303 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.840 nervous laugh when I'm uncomfortable. Okay, so Sutter said, she 304 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.039 emailed I'll just use their first names. Trista said she 305 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.480 emailed Courtney after listening to the podcast for the first 306 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:30.840 time to apologize for their past issues. Robertson referred to 307 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.200 the email as an olive branch and claimed that Trista 308 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.679 never emailed back after she accepted her apology. Okay, so 309 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:42.440 I know that sounds a little bit confusing, but I'll explain. Well, basically, 310 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:45.320 this is Courtney. She goes, you send me an olive branch. 311 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:49.159 It felt very fake. I replied, and you know what, 312 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.360 when there was a wedding recently, you still take little 313 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.799 jabs at me. I hear everything. And then Courtney went 314 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.240 on to say that Sutter didn't give her the fucking 315 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.559 time of day when she came off her season. So 316 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.639 this is Courtney basically going like, you didn't pay attention 317 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:07.399 to me after my season. She goes Unlike a lot 318 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.320 of people in Bachelor Nation, she claimed Trista treated her 319 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:16.240 like quote scum at a past Bachelor event. Setter replied, 320 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.519 I don't remember that. I don't remember you even being there, honestly, 321 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.759 which I believe. It's like this girl Courtney sounds like. 322 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:29.080 So she's kind of terrible. Don't forget she is. Yeah, 323 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:30.480 she's terrible in her season. 324 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:37.320 Maybe a little anyway, so Trista. So, Trista brought up 325 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.720 the Olive Branch email again, and Courtney pulled up the 326 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.919 email and read it aloud. Okay, so this is her. 327 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:50.480 This is Courtney. Courtney's reading her response to Trista on 328 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.559 this podcast, which I think is kind of a cunty move. 329 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.960 It's like she's going, okay, so this is what I 330 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.600 said back to you. Okay, So this is her saying 331 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.759 thank you for that kind message. Consider your olive branch accepted. 332 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.200 I've also felt compelled to reach out to you over 333 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.119 the past few years, and especially with my book coming out, 334 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.640 I wanted to say no hard feelings. A large part 335 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:14.880 of my story was sharing what I went through during 336 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.680 and after my season. I don't want you to ever 337 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.839 feel like I was attacking you. Like I said during 338 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.839 Please Advise, which is the podcast, I don't know you personally. 339 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.519 We both know what it's like when people see us 340 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:31.119 on television and form very strong opinions about us even 341 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:33.759 though they don't know us. One of the biggest lessons 342 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.720 I've learned from this whole experience is how to let 343 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.319 go and forgive. Your apology means a lot to me 344 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.119 and it's fully accepted. Then, she concluded, if you're ever 345 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.519 in la maybe we can meet for a coffee. Thank 346 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.559 you for reaching out, and the well wishes on the book. Okay, 347 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.279 So then they have this heated exchange about the aftermath 348 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.720 of that email, Setter said. Sutter said, this was not 349 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:58.119 my idea, by the way, so don't hold that against me. 350 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.559 You asked me when we first got here to give 351 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.200 you space because of what you're going through. And that's 352 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.799 basically Courtney's going through divorce. Remember her husband was like 353 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.160 cheating on her through their whole. 354 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.880 Marriage, so she remember that, but yes, kind of now 355 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:12.359 that you say it. 356 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:18.119 Yes, So basically Courtney goes, well, I'm sorry, this is 357 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.200 not directed to you. I have a lot of shit 358 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.519 going on right now, and this isn't comfortable for me. 359 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.799 This makes me very uncomfortable. I've been having panic attacks 360 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.960 all day because of what I'm going through. Personally, I 361 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.119 should have skipped the trip, but this feels a little 362 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.000 greedy to try to get us here to sit down 363 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.920 and hash it out. As the episode came to an end, 364 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.880 Christa said, what I do want to say is I'm 365 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.920 sorry for what you're going through. I would not wish 366 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.359 that on my worst enemy. I wanted, you know, from 367 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.799 the bottom of my heart. You know. She goes on, like, listen, 368 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.119 you know, I'm so sorry, Like I feel maternal towards 369 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.519 anyone who's been on the show and as part of 370 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:58.319 this Bachelor Nation family. Okay, and then she goes, we 371 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.400 don't have to like each other, Like you don't have 372 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.160 to like me. For whatever reason, you and I clash. 373 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.279 I think it's because we've had two totally different experiences. 374 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:09.440 So Courtney says, I'm over it. I just think we're 375 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.519 two very different personality types. I think there's a difference 376 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.480 in personality, but at the end of the day, I 377 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.759 think there are actually a lot of similarities that you've 378 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.119 been through. But she basically called her then was like 379 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:26.960 your fake. So I don't know where do you fall 380 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:27.319 on this. 381 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:30.720 Well, I really think I have much of a feeling 382 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.559 about this because I don't care for either person. I mean, 383 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.160 not that we have to care for them, but I 384 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.279 mean I guess if I had to choose which one 385 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.440 I'd probably get along with better, it would be Trista. 386 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:41.799 It wouldn't be Courtney. 387 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.880 I'd rather someone be a little bit lighthearted and felt like, 388 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.160 you're not going that deep with either of them, so 389 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:49.440 you know what I mean. Like Courtney just likes to 390 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:51.319 ster shit up for no reason. She doesn't get a 391 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.920 lush and play well with others. 392 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.319 You know, if you're friends with her, you are walking 393 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:57.200 on eggshells. 394 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:59.480 Yeah, you're on eggshells, which comes back to the thing. 395 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:01.640 So I don't know, these are just like two people 396 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:05.559 that Likeugh, it just feels like such a false, fake, 397 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:06.759 bullshit thing. 398 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.200 So the fake one I think is really more Courtney. 399 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:09.920 I think. 400 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:14.599 That's what I'm saying. And it's like, you know, she's 401 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:19.200