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<v Speaker 1>And we have a Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chalk Hoskin Jr. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot on your plate today, young man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's been a great summer. We've been very busy,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, sir, we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the big national holiday coming up here, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cherokee Nation National Holiday, that is huge, and we ought

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<v Speaker 1>to be seeing probably a bigger turnout than we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a number of reasons. One is, year

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<v Speaker 2>after year it's growing course, as you and I know,

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<v Speaker 2>because we talked during those time frames. Yeah, COVID knocked

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<v Speaker 2>us off course, but when we came back to in person,

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<v Speaker 2>it just was overwhelmed. Not overwhelming in the sense we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't handle it, but just sort of wonderful to see

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<v Speaker 2>huge crafts, one hundred thousand visitors descending on Tallequall for

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<v Speaker 2>our celebration, and of course it's Indian and non Indian,

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<v Speaker 2>it's people from all over and that is wonderful. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be the highest turn out ever, not

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<v Speaker 2>just because we keep getting bigger, but the weather I

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<v Speaker 2>think is going to be in our favor. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you never know, but anyway, I'm looking forward to lots

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a big event coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the well I believe it just happened, the

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<v Speaker 1>groundbreaking ceremony for the Addiction Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is one of the most I think important

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<v Speaker 2>things we've done. Now if you measure it by the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money for this particular facility, not the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>square footage, not the biggest, but tom this is about

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<v Speaker 2>drug and alcohol treatment for Cherokees who need it. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't presently have an adult facility. We have one for youth,

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<v Speaker 2>and sadly we need it. It stays busy, but we

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<v Speaker 2>need one for adults. We contract out a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the services right now, and some of the contractors are

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<v Speaker 2>very good, some not as good, but all of them

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<v Speaker 2>are not uniquely Cherokee. So this time will be in Tahlequa,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thousand square feet. It'll be a residential facility. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is for Cherokees who go into the initial phase

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, sort of a crisis where you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>stabilized and then you're sort of in a residential setting,

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<v Speaker 2>but also with healthcare providers because you still need it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of a number of phases we have to

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<v Speaker 2>build out. So there's two great things. One is it

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<v Speaker 2>will bring healing to those who use this service, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many that need it. The second thing is

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<v Speaker 2>tom and then I've talked about this before on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're making the opioid industry pay for every single penny

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<v Speaker 2>of it because we we took them to court, we

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<v Speaker 2>settled the case, we stared them down, we exposed them

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<v Speaker 2>as a menace. We're taking all those dollars and putting

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<v Speaker 2>it into real opportunities for healing, the flagship of which

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<v Speaker 2>will be this facility.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the only thing that Cherokee Nation has

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<v Speaker 1>been building lately. Boy, I want to tell you you've had

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<v Speaker 1>people working, working, working. We've got the new Cherokee Immersion

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<v Speaker 1>Middle School going up there.

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<v Speaker 2>We do and just taking it from you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand foot level. We're in the middle of one point

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<v Speaker 2>one seven billion billion with the be in capital projects

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<v Speaker 2>at the Cherokee Nation, and it spans a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to the immersion school in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But it could be you know, a single home we're

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<v Speaker 2>building for an elder, It could be a housing addition,

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<v Speaker 2>could be a hospital which we're building four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars, could be you know, the drug treatment

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<v Speaker 2>center we're talking about. So it's all over the region.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and it's creating a lot of economic impact, putting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people to work, putting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks who are in some cases new to being business

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<v Speaker 2>small business owners getting a chance to provide services to

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<v Speaker 2>these jobs. So we look at the immersion school time.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked before about our robust language program. We've gone

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<v Speaker 2>an immersion school that teaches kids from pre k to

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<v Speaker 2>sixth grade reading, writing, and arithmetaking Cherokee, and it's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the strategy to save the Cherokee language. This is

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<v Speaker 2>another piece. This is the middle school so that kids

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<v Speaker 2>that go through that experience can continue on in an

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<v Speaker 2>immersive environment. This will be a thirty million dollars facility

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<v Speaker 2>in Tahlequall, sixty six thousand square feet, state of the art,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really helps build up what is a language

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<v Speaker 2>revitalization campus, but I think is unmatched in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Along the way, we're putting a lot of Cherokee fluent

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<v Speaker 2>and second language learning speakers to work. So it's really

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<v Speaker 2>something that's part of this bigger strategy. We're very excited

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<v Speaker 2>about it. We just broke ground recently.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness sakes, and you're getting a very valuable piece

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<v Speaker 1>back from museum.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the gill Crease Museum in Tulsa. Many listeners

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<v Speaker 2>know of it or have been to that museum. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful institution. Here's what is so special about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Gilcrease the turn of the twentieth century acquired a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of items, and in this particular instance, he acquired

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<v Speaker 2>a printing press that was used by the Cherokee Nation

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteenth century, so the post removal era in

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<v Speaker 2>about the nineteen forties until the turn of the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad story of that printing press is when the

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<v Speaker 2>government of the United States allotted our lands and imposed

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Oklahoma over Cherokee Nation and other tribal nations.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States actually shut down our newspaper, took our

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<v Speaker 2>printing press, and that was the end of an era

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<v Speaker 2>of Native American journalism. To think about that time, I

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<v Speaker 2>loved this country. That wasn't a great moment for it

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<v Speaker 2>when the country literally dismantled the free press and the

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<v Speaker 2>Cherokey Nation. Enter Thomas Gilcrees, who acquires this after it

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<v Speaker 2>goes to different places. I'm talking about what is now

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<v Speaker 2>a very old printing press from the nineteenth century. He

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<v Speaker 2>acquires it, cares for it, keeps it in the Gilcrease Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>They've loaned it to us for really about a decade

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<v Speaker 2>now in our Supreme Court Museum in Tahlequaal. But what's

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<v Speaker 2>so special is right now in this era, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>institutions museums who are thinking about their collections and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to repatriate them to tribal nations or to otherwise be

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<v Speaker 2>more responsible with them. Gilcrease sets a high standard and

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<v Speaker 2>so they have signed over that printing press to the

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<v Speaker 2>Cheroke Nation. There was no law that said they had,

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<v Speaker 2>no law said.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to.

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<v Speaker 2>They just thought it was the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think people need to know that story. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope they come see the printing press because if you

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<v Speaker 2>see the printing press, and people can see it, if

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<v Speaker 2>they come down for the holiday during that Labor Day

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<v Speaker 2>weekend to see that printing press, you realize what the

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<v Speaker 2>Cherokee Nation was doing in the nineteenth century, that we

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<v Speaker 2>had a newspaper, you start to learn about the Cherokee Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be an experienced lost if not for Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Gilcrease and.

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<v Speaker 1>Great now up here locally, we've been doing business pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn well up here in Dewey at the new facility

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<v Speaker 1>that about a year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I do believe it is, and we've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>some additional remodeling work. We're talking about the Cherokee Nation

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<v Speaker 2>Community building in Dewey. It's sort of right off the

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<v Speaker 2>main drag there as you go into town, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the home of a Cherokee run nonprofit called Cherokee Cultural Community.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're seeing increasingly at this facility, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a former church but we have brought it back to

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<v Speaker 2>really a wonderful facility. But what you see there with

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<v Speaker 2>the nonprofit is opportunities for community members to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>learn about Cherokee culture and language and share a meal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just sort of a place for getting together and

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<v Speaker 2>not just Cherokee. Tom We've got Cha Indians and nan

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<v Speaker 2>Indies that go to these different media. But we have

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<v Speaker 2>an increasing presence with career services helping people get jobs

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<v Speaker 2>in the area and human services helping people with the

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<v Speaker 2>safety net if they are, you know, maybe in financial

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<v Speaker 2>free fall because they got a bad break and let's

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<v Speaker 2>face it, Tom, we're all sort of a bad breakaway

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<v Speaker 2>from needing help. Well locally, Now in Dewey people can

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<v Speaker 2>get those services. That is I think just the latest

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<v Speaker 2>chapter and what will be at many more chapters in

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<v Speaker 2>increasing our presence in Washington County. And I got a

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<v Speaker 2>credit counselor dor Patskowski, who's just been the greatest advocate

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<v Speaker 2>for these kind of efforts.

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<v Speaker 3>The word is wow, does that save a drive?

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<v Speaker 2>It does? And look, Tom, if you're driving down for

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday, that's great, and I want people to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're driving down because you need to get a

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<v Speaker 2>job and you're driving a talklar or clamoor man, that's

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<v Speaker 2>too far. So we're going to keep it close to home.

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<v Speaker 3>That is great. A lot of great things happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the big holiday coming up to what

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<v Speaker 1>else do you have on your calendar here? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>know with the big holiday that's taking a chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>it here, you've got a lot going on, a lot going.

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<v Speaker 2>On, And just briefly on the holidays, just to remind listener,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Labor Day weekend. Yeah, people can people can come down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the real big days or Friday and Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Some things on Sunday though, so a person could come

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<v Speaker 2>down for the weekend, come down for a day. There's

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<v Speaker 2>lots to do, a parade. The powow is really known

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<v Speaker 2>across the country an inner travel pow wow. Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night, I'll give a state of the Nation address

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<v Speaker 2>sort of talking about our vision for the future. That'll

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<v Speaker 2>be Saturday, and so lots to do. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're staying busy. My dear friend and partner

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<v Speaker 2>in this effort, Brian Warner, our Deputy Chief. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you Tom, he's the hunter in this partnership.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy. He's the outdoorsman. Not so much meat,

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<v Speaker 2>thank goodness, though he's Deputy Chief because he's had the

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<v Speaker 2>vision to make sure we've got more hunting and fishing

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities for the Cherokee people. And so we've got some

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<v Speaker 2>what we call controlled hunts coming up. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of acres of hunting and fishing Preserve, four thousand

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<v Speaker 2>alone in Sequoia County. That's where we'll have some controlled hunts.

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<v Speaker 2>Cherokee citizens can go to that got dooogie portal which

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<v Speaker 2>citizens are familiar with and register for a random drawing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we may have veterans at a controlled hunts so

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<v Speaker 2>they can go experience that youth, fluent speakers, elders, different

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<v Speaker 2>groups that may not always have the opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 2>what many people love to do. And so thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>our Deputy Chief that these annual controlled hunts, people can

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<v Speaker 2>go to our website Cherokee dot o RG will learn

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<v Speaker 2>more about those.

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<v Speaker 3>Chief.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mean to put you on the spot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just remembered this. I remember seeing that Cherokee Nason was

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<v Speaker 1>looking to expand its hospitality around the Bartlesville area, plans

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<v Speaker 1>to do some building in nearer Bartlesville.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got property in Barlsville and we've applied to put

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<v Speaker 2>that in trust and that all of course has been public.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the interesting thing about the Indian gaming industry. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to be strategic. That's true in any business, but

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<v Speaker 2>the hoops you have to jump through in Indian gaming

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<v Speaker 2>to be strategic are different than other markets. So other

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<v Speaker 2>businesses can acquire property and then decide sort of is

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<v Speaker 2>this strategically where we want to go and what do

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<v Speaker 2>we want to use the property for the world of

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<v Speaker 2>Indian gaming come, you've got to take some legal steps

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<v Speaker 2>to make a property potentially available for gaming. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to get to an answer to the very

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<v Speaker 2>simple question, but it does get complicated. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>do have that property in Bartlesville. We're always evaluating different

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<v Speaker 2>uses and we're always looking at an ever changing gaming market,

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<v Speaker 2>and so could we have gaming in bartlesviill it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>If we were any sort of other kind of business,

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<v Speaker 2>this would just be another piece of property that business

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<v Speaker 2>owns and we would just strategically decide what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it. In the world ndiing gaming, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of necessarily public notice about it, which gets people talking

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<v Speaker 2>about there's a casino coming in. I can tell folks

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<v Speaker 2>there's no concrete plans for a casino, but we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be buying land and going through this process if it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a possibility. I don't mean be coy about it

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<v Speaker 2>or non responsive, but it's complicated. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We can compete and win anywhere. Bartlesville is such a

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<v Speaker 2>great community, and anywhere we go, I promise you will

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<v Speaker 2>be good partners. You can go anywhere we've developed any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of business, and I think we're sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>best friends you could have. So stay tuned. I promise

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<v Speaker 2>you Tom, as we get further on the road, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll talk about it more.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds great, and I understand the legality.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like a lot of tape to go through

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<v Speaker 1>and get things done. Chief Chief Chuck Honskin, Junior Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Jeep of Cherokee Nation, thank you for spending time with

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<v Speaker 1>us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Tom,