WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:07.879 It's oh they piggy. Now, we got reels to get 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:14.800 to our good friend Tristana, always dropping them crazy reels, right, 3 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:19.839 the great Bigot of the Internet, the secret King Bigot 4 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.440 of the Internet, Tristana. We've got so many reels I 5 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.960 want to get to even get to these dudes people 6 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:31.399 hipping me to these bad boys right here on the 7 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:38.240 Light Working team. There's too much stuff to make fun of. Dude, 8 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:43.359 I don't know where to start the light Lords. I 9 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.560 didn't know there was light Lords, did y'all? They got 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.399 music too, Doctor Steve Greer gonna teach us how to 11 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:55.079 channel raw raw. We can learn how to make money 12 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.399 with donal Le Prix. That's also an option. Do y'all 13 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.479 want to make money? Get and learn how to get paid? Uh? 14 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:08.560 Do y'all want to see some of the the crazy reels? 15 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.920 Or do y'all want to get into my philosophy ruminations 16 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.000 about the back rooms? Tonight? What's what is on your mind? 17 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:22.680 We've also got this awesome stuff, right, we got VHS 18 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:27.920 movies to watch. What do y'all want to talk about first? Tonight? 19 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.439 Do y'all want to get into Light Workers VHS movies? 20 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.400 My back room's philosophy, some of the liminal space. Son, 21 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:42.879 do y'all want to get into uh light working channeling? 22 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:48.719 Raw y'all want a chakra Max? Y'all know O show 23 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:50.159 can get up in that chockra Do y'all want to 24 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:55.519 talk about David Wood? What y'all want to talk about? 25 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.879 Everybody want to talk about back rooms? A lot of 26 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.079 y'all gay is hell talking about the back door because 27 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:09.120 of my scandal video you just watch right, that's that's 28 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.800 within the alien sphere, that's adjacent to aliens, faking aliens. 29 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:15.120 Everybody wants talk about the back rooms. All right? Look, 30 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:17.840 I wrote some notes because I was thinking about this. 31 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.159 I watched some good videos and I've been thinking that 32 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.439 about this for a while. What is up with the 33 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.599 back rooms? Right now? We got this movie coming out, 34 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.520 which I'm actually excited about. I think it's gonna be 35 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:33.639 a really good movie. And I am impressed with Caine 36 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:39.240 and his skills. Caine Parsons, your boy, Caine Parsons. Listen, 37 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:44.080 you got Billy Corson and you got Caane Parson, Caine Parson, 38 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.159 Billy Corson. Okay, that's how I feel. This trailer was awesome. 39 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.719 I have to say, and I mean even watching Caine 40 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:57.159 Parson's clips and videos, I was super impressed. I was like, 41 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.159 this dude is skilled. Do got a skill set? You 42 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:11.280 know what I'm saying. And so I'll show you real quick. Yeh, 43 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.400 something's wrong with the wall. Right, he's doing a late 44 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.800 night clean up. He looks over there and there's a 45 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:44.879 hole in the wall, and uh, don't don't get upset. 46 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.520 This black man works there. He's not there illegally, he's 47 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.080 a he's an employee. I know what you racist people 48 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.879 already thinking, what is this black man doing on the 49 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.159 security is he on the security camps? He gets in 50 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.280 there and he finds a hole in the wall and 51 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.560 then he walks through it and lo and behold, it's 52 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.560 the back room. It's the liminal space. Son, what's the 53 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:13.599 liminal space? The liminal space evolved out of creepy pastas 54 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.240 and this idea on four chan read at this kind 55 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:24.120 of stuff, that there were spaces that you could no 56 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.040 clip into, you could glitch out of reality into some 57 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:34.360 alternate infinite hell world, a sort of labyrinth, right of 58 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:40.639 the corporate nihilistic empty space between worlds or between realities. 59 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:45.160 The liminal space is from a Latin word that has 60 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:49.680 to do with threshold, so an in between. I think 61 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.240 also simultaneously with that kind of its own Internet lore 62 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.319 taken on a life of its own, you also had 63 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:01.879 other films and popular books and things that popularize the 64 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.879 liminal space, right, Stranger Things or Stranger's Thing, if you 65 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:11.839 watched the last season, and that popularized the upside down. Right, 66 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.399 this other world, this other dimension, this other reality that 67 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:19.120 is the negative space. It is a you know, perhaps 68 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:24.720 a purgatorial sort of idea. There's a lot of parallels, right, 69 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:30.199 And I also think it resonates with everyone because well, 70 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.120 I've got a whole list of reasons of my thoughts 71 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:38.000 on it. It also resonates because of the emptiness of 72 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:45.480 the corporate world, the cold, calculated corporate world, and it's nihilistic, 73 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:52.800 abandoned and the meaninglessness of a corporate lifestyle to attain 74 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:58.040 corporate products that ultimately go out of style within five 75 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.079 to ten years anyway. So it's a sort of meaningless 76 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:06.879 oral buros eating its own meaningless tale. And then the 77 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:13.160 idea becomes, what if you entered that space of something 78 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.040 like a stock footage video. What if you went into 79 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:21.079 the world where stock footage was reality, but not stock 80 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.519 footage of today, not a present day reality, but for 81 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.920 some reason, always connected to always grasping back to the 82 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.560 eighties and the nineties. For some reason, everyone felt that 83 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.319 the lore of the back rooms in the liminal space 84 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:42.600 was necessarily connected to the eighties and nineties. Why is that? 85 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.959 Here are my theories, This is my thoughts. It is 86 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.000 resonating with people because we are at a threshold of 87 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:55.439 generations where people like myself on the cusp of Gen 88 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:00.680 X and millennial. As a zennial, I remember the world 89 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:07.560 prior to Internet. Okay, prior to internet everywhere. The generations 90 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:12.199 under me do not know that world, and that world 91 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:17.279 was still essentially primarily human. I met tech was obviously 92 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:23.240 beginning to invade our life with vhs, CDs, DVDs, et cetera. 93 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.199 MP three began to be popular in the late nineties 94 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.600 early two thousands, but your day to day did not 95 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.000 include significant amounts of Internet at all unless you have 96 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:42.240 some lame ass dialogue and then you could wait twenty 97 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:47.480 minutes for a low resolution picture to load up right. Otherwise, 98 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:49.279 you didn't spend a whole lot of time on the 99 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:54.480 Internet until the early two thousands. Right, So we are 100 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.120 remembering there is still in the collective unconscious this memory 101 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:04.879 of a time when there was a human realm. Even 102 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.360 at work, the corporate work part of your life, there 103 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.199 was still this human element to where you had a 104 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:17.720 limited time there. You went to a physical location, you 105 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:23.720 had your own office, you had your own desk, et cetera. Right, 106 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.000 even when you got started having cubicles, right, you still 107 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.319 had your own space. You decorated it the way you wanted, 108 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:36.080 et cetera. And even office space changed with the times 109 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.600 to where you didn't have your own office. Everyone worked 110 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.440 in an open space in the cubicles, and then the 111 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:43.279 cubicles went away and you went into having open spaces, 112 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.960 and then you have shared desks that you do like 113 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:51.120 at Verizon or whatever. Right, So you've seen less and 114 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:57.799 less individualism even within the workspace. It's all been homogenized 115 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:05.039 and corporatized and made linear and made flat. And because 116 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:10.240 the back rooms are a labyrinth that has no resolution, 117 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.480 that immediately expresses the nihilism of the modern corporate mindset 118 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.080 in corporate world. But it's frozen in the eighties and 119 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:23.759 the nineties because that was the period when there's the 120 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:29.240 last remembrances of it being still human. Right, So you 121 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:38.120 have people's desks, people's property, their own expressions now completely erased, 122 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:43.080 and in the back rooms there's no people. So a 123 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.240 human being is actually out of place in the corporate 124 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:51.840 world or in this corporate dystopian hell dimension because it's 125 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:57.960 anti human. The corporate world had as it's underlying engine 126 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:03.559 and ethos and anti human idea the entire time, because 127 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.480 the logic of it was everything is quantified, everything is quantifiable. 128 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.679 It's inherently nihilistic and anti natalists and anti human, so 129 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.559 it must, of its own logic, eventually eliminate all of 130 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.440 the human and all of the particular and all of 131 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:25.799 the individual to eventually just propagate itself as negating any 132 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:31.039 of the commodities that it produced. And so the corporate 133 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.759 space exists eventually to only perpetuate an anti human, non 134 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:40.799 human corporate space with no objects or no products. Why 135 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.039 because the ultimate goal of the monopoly attitude is actually 136 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.759 to destroy all competition and thus the products that it sells. 137 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:53.759 Even after it's gotten rid of the humans, the products 138 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.320 are no longer necessary. And other was products were an end. 139 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.360 What it means to an end? It was never about 140 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:04.159 creating a better product. It was about creating the end 141 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:12.120 of humanity. Thus, we look back on the threshold of 142 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.360 a time to a time when it was still human. 143 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:23.159 We look back to the liminal spaces of the shopping mall. Right, 144 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.360 perhaps shopping mall back rooms and liminal spaces are even 145 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:34.399 more telling in this regard. Right. I also have some 146 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.559 theories to as to why this has become so popular online. 147 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.159 I actually think the Internet is itself the liminal space 148 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:50.000 as well. I'll show you what I mean here with 149 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:55.919 a couple of examples of this dead malls. Right. The 150 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:02.799 dead mall, as we like to call it, is an eerie, 151 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:08.519 corporate liminal space with its own esthetic and vibe that 152 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:13.600 now has no people and has no product and becomes 153 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:19.200 this sort of ideological museum to a forgotten time and 154 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:27.799 a forgotten way of being that we can remember, but 155 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:31.200 also we can't remember because when you look at it 156 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:34.279 without any people, and the purpose of the shopping mall 157 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:37.159 was to sell the products, right, So to see it 158 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:42.960 without humans and without products, it almost seems like a 159 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:48.720 dystopian healthscape, where what if the purpose of all this 160 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:56.080 and its purpose less ness was actually to produce a 161 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.480 kind of purposelessness in the humans themselves. I'm not saying 162 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.159 that every mall owner, and I'm not trying to make 163 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:06.519 some Marxist socialist critique or something like That's not what 164 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.279 I'm saying, or I'm not a Marxist or a socialist. 165 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:13.879 But I'm saying when you have a materialist capitalist society, 166 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:15.799 and the same goes for Sovietism too, because they're both 167 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:20.960 materialists atheistic presuppositions. If you have a monopoly capitalistic societies, 168 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:26.360 presupposition by the attainment of meaningless corporate goods that also 169 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.240 become meaningless within a few years because they're no longer 170 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.440 trendy and they're not actually made to last, they're actually 171 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:38.039 made to through planned obso lessons go away. It speaks 172 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:47.720 to the emptiness of the cycle. Right. Yeah, I've seen 173 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:52.919 im think I've seen all of Kine Caine's videos. Yeah, 174 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.120 I think Day of the Dead and Chopping Mall. Although 175 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.279 they're goofy b movies, they actually have some of these 176 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:03.000 deeper philosophic themes in them. And we did a whole 177 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.200 analysis of Chopping Mall. If you didn't ever watch that 178 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:10.279 back in the in the old days, we actually hit 179 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:14.360 on some of that back when we did Chopping Mall, 180 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:24.200 because if you don't remember, the villain in Chopping Mall 181 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:29.360 is like a Robbie the Robot version. It's like a terminator, 182 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:40.600 but it's like a B movie version a terminator, so 183 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:47.480 it's like, yeah, here we go. See now. I hate 184 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:49.200 it when it doesn't come up because we did a 185 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:56.759 whole stream on it. Anyway, I can't think of the 186 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:58.799 name of our stream, but yes, we did. We did 187 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:03.679 do Chopping Mall. I have to find it later. But so, 188 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:08.639 the liminal space speaks to all of these realities, and 189 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.600 some philosophers have called it. I watched the guy's video 190 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:12.879 on this that was pretty good. I'll give you a 191 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.519 link to that video in a second, where it's just 192 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.799 a guy who does sort of philosophical ruminations on YouTube, 193 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.639 and I have disagreements with some of his assessments. He 194 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.440 comes off as kind of an existentialist, sort of agnostic 195 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.840 sort of character, but I did like some of his 196 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:32.440 takes on the liminal space in the mall, and he 197 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:38.679 noted that it's almost like as some philosophers are calling it, 198 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:44.759 a existential How did he put it? He said, it's 199 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.840 industrial Gothic or corporate Gothic, So you know, go back 200 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:53.120 to Gothic literature in the UK and then in Victorian era, 201 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:55.120 and then we have in the US Southern Gothic with 202 00:15:55.279 --> 00:16:01.399 people like you know, Flannery O'Connor and whatnot, and Cormack 203 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.720 McCarthy as well. But with the liminal Space, you have 204 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:11.519 a modernized version of corporate industrial Gothic where the great 205 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:18.399 horror is the meaninglessness of what was so meaningful apparently 206 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.639 at the time, right in the nineteen eighties and in 207 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.279 the nineteen nineties. And the mall ones are really interesting. 208 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:28.039 And again remember Stranger Things also, I think played a 209 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.159 huge role in this because what was the season three, 210 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.759 The whole season was about the mall, right, the Dead 211 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:37.200 Mall being this sort of portal to the in between, 212 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.200 to the hell world, and so it becomes its own esthetic, 213 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:48.639 its own vibe. And this is Caine's channel, who originally 214 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:53.000 sort of popularized a lot of these and his videos, 215 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:58.879 his you know, film school stuff was so good and 216 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:01.480 it became such a viral sensation over the last several 217 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.440 years that they actually made him the director. So I 218 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.440 think he's going to do well. I'm expecting it to 219 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.039 be really cool. But if you go back to his 220 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.359 older videos, and I think I've watched most of these 221 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:21.880 when he was doing film school stuff, he did one here. 222 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.480 This was the original back Rooms that's had like eighty 223 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:31.039 million views, which is crazy. And it was a genius idea, 224 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.119 right to just kind of play around with looking into 225 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:41.640 abandoned buildings or abandoned cargo stuff, and then you walk 226 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:46.240 in and you find another reality, another dimension. And then 227 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.640 people started getting more and more philosophical with it, and 228 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.000 he was filming it with this sort of old school 229 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:58.480 VHS look. But also people helped contribute to the lore. 230 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.920 Right you had Reddit people, creepypasta people telling their own 231 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:10.079 versions of the back rooms, and then on top of that, 232 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.440 you had TV shows that came out probably also influenced 233 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.160 by this, even though I know this was from a book, 234 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:20.240 but Severance, everybody said, what about Severance, Severance, Severance. I've 235 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:24.079 been meaning to get to Severance for so long, But 236 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:26.319 the reason that I haven't got to it is because 237 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.720 I think there's so many other things that it ties 238 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.960 in with, like the back rooms of the liminal space, 239 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:33.000 that it makes sense to kind of talk about them altogether. 240 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:37.039 Because in Severance, the premise is that you have an 241 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.680 intentional process that you can go through where they split 242 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.960 your consciousness so that you are mpdd ID to have 243 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.440 in any in and outy any being the person that 244 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.279 is at the work world, and they have their own 245 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.680 life in the work world, and they are split so 246 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.039 that they don't know the life of the person outside 247 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:03.680 of work. So it's actual like split, you know, multiple 248 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.640 personality disorder, but it's engineered by a mega corporation that 249 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.599 does it to benefit supposedly the workers and to help 250 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.200 production and all this kind of stuff. And I've seen 251 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:16.880 season one. I thought it was really good, and I'm 252 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.240 about halfway through season two and it's it's interesting, But 253 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:27.519 it also I think speaks to probably unknowingly the elements 254 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.759 of the actual mkulture projects and how they were studied 255 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.119 and by how they were perfected by entities actually working 256 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:39.319 for corporate structure, corporate interests. In other words, the Tavistock Institute, 257 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.759 which was the first to really study mpdd ID through 258 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:46.240 studying shell shock and then got all this money put 259 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:49.400 into it through the Rockefellers. They brought in Carl Jung, 260 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.119 brought in all kinds of people over the years to 261 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:58.559 study and perfect social engineering and human control. That's ultimately 262 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:02.519 what Tavistok is about, and what began as World War 263 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:09.480 One wartime psychological operations actually turned into an entire global 264 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:14.319 institute connected to MK Ultra intent on engineering the human 265 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.759 mind to be obedient and to be involved in groupthink. 266 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:23.359 So they really pioneered and mastered groupthink. And they did 267 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:28.039 it they were contracted out by not just the CAA, 268 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.079 not just the US government of the Pentagon, but the 269 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.200 Fortune one hundred, Fortune five hundred. So, for example, when 270 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.240 you see people like Peter Drucker who comes up with 271 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.680 the business church model of Ruslan and all these other 272 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.400 people from Rick Warren to Rick Warren to Rouselan business 273 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:47.240 church model is this. It is Tavistock social engineering groupthink 274 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:52.359 models of how to streamline the business side of the 275 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.720 church to make it more efficient, Taylorism, et cetera. All 276 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.119 the above, right, But to get back to the back 277 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:06.160 rooms and to Severance, which because I haven't finished season two, 278 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.960 I don't exactly know where Severance is going to go. 279 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:15.519 But it is also consciously alluding to the corporate k 280 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.359 culture elements within the show and in the course that 281 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.640 you can imagine in the story. It's a question of, well, 282 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:26.079 do we really want to be divided against ourselves? Which 283 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.559 is probably a kind of a Marxist line of augmentation, 284 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:32.440 because Marx's whole theory of alienation includes the idea that 285 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.200 you're divided against yourself and against your product and against 286 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:39.519 nature through the corporate world. I'm not a Marxist, but 287 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:41.640 I do think at times Carl Marx said some things 288 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.039 that were correct, and I do think that at times 289 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.559 if you commodify everything, that would be the natural result, right, 290 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.000 you would have man divided not just against other men, 291 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.799 but also alienated from the work that he produces from 292 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.599 his hands and also from nature. 293 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:00.440 Us. 294 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.200 You'll notice in the back rooms, the healthscape, the hell 295 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.960 world of the back rooms, there's never anything typically nature related. 296 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:13.359 There might here there be a plastic palm tree or 297 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:18.119 a plastic tree, but usually it's there's not. Usually there's 298 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:24.079 just variations on the corporate scape, and that corporate healthscape 299 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:28.519 or the patterned versions of the way that they do 300 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.359 hotels now, which are becoming more and more if you 301 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:35.960 haven't noticed, like hospitals, and the same with and I 302 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.640 know this because we've traveled a whole lot in the 303 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:39.839 last five years, and we've stayed everywhere coast to coast 304 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:44.519 countless times. Hotels are they don't have any flavor to them, right, 305 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:49.599 the corporate ones, they all become a kind of representation 306 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.519 of the exact same thing that you've get in a hotel, 307 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.799 in a hospital, and in a hospice, in an all 308 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:03.440 folks home, and then also perhaps in a bank. And 309 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.359 that's why you, guys, we've all noticed this with McDonald's too, Right, 310 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:12.279 Suddenly all of the corporate businesses out there are gray. 311 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:17.039 McDonald's is gray. Tons of fast food restaurants they all 312 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:22.160 have the same gray look. We went by a Barnes 313 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.799 and Noble, the other bookstores, it looked no different than 314 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:31.160 a McDonald's with corporate Soviet gray. Isn't that interesting that 315 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:40.079 what was Soviet brutalist architecture supposedly the opposite of capitalism, right, 316 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:46.920 the opposite of capitalism. Let's look up Soviet brutalist architecture, 317 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:59.039 and it's like all giant concrete, you know, it looks 318 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:05.559 like nuclear concrete, the you know, bomb refuge type stuff 319 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.400 like Turnobyl. Is no different than the freaking hotel, right, 320 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.480 Like this, what was supposed to be a you know, 321 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:15.680 chernobyl structure is basically the same thing as the hotel 322 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:23.039 Soviet brutal brutalism in terms of architecture. Right, everything is gray, 323 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.119 everything is ugly, and there's a reason for that because 324 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:33.680 it expresses the philosophy of everything being streamlined and homogenized. 325 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:40.079 Because anything that's not streamlined for efficiency is purposeless. So 326 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:45.960 to have decor to have you know, neoclassical baroque styles, 327 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.480 that would be a waste of money. It's inefficient. So 328 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:56.880 you notice that corporate megastructure, monopoly capitalism's ethos is exactly 329 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.920 the same as the Soviet brutalist ethos. Isn't the fast 330 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.599 and if you watch, I mean look, that was like 331 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:10.319 a damn death star or some shit, just hideous. Right, 332 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:31.640 it's brutalist, it's dystopian. Now let's look at what does 333 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:37.279 every McDonald's look like. Now, this the same thing, a 334 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:44.599 giant concrete block where you get your soy slopol soyslap, 335 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:56.400 just hideous, colorless, worthless looking slop out of a giant 336 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:02.799 concrete block. Come to the dystopian concrete block where all 337 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:08.720 of the bipoc persons will serve you your slop. And 338 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.680 by the way, this is what boomers think you should 339 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.279 go die for in other countries, So go die for 340 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.279 Israel in the Middle East to get this, to make 341 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:19.759 sure that we can put a McDonald's on every corner 342 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.160 of Tehran. I don't know, maybe Teyran already has McDonald's. 343 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:30.359 But you see that this end goal of the corporate 344 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:36.960 sphere is indistinguishable from the Soviet brutalist atheist because they're 345 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:45.000 all nihilistic, they're all atheistic in their vibe, in their ethos, 346 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:51.359 and the black rooms are basically expressing the same type 347 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:58.000 of critique. Also, I think that if you remember vapor wave, 348 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.319 right synth wave as synth it became popular, you know, 349 00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:07.039 ten fifteen years ago, synth wave is expressing an innate 350 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.160 dystopian idea within it because a lot of the art, 351 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.480 a lot of the vibe of the synth wave was 352 00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.680 dystopian in the nineteen eighties and nineties were hosts of 353 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.839 dystopian films, so they kind of became attached. They're adjacent 354 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:26.440 to the milieu, the ethos of the nineteen eighties, of 355 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:31.880 its zeitgeist, and then it's only natural that what develops 356 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:36.279 out of synth wave as a kind of first phase 357 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:42.039 critique of corporate nihilism would develop Vaporwave right. And vapor 358 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:49.000 Wave gave us a critique of mall music right, corporate 359 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:54.880 meaningless overproduced muzak. If you don't know because you're young 360 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.240 or something, in the nineteen eighties and nineties, when you 361 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.319 go to the mall or when you're an elevator, they 362 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:05.200 would have these specific types of stations or boxes called 363 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:12.519 muzak zak right, And it was the corporate way to 364 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:19.680 have all of your favorite songs in a non copyrighted way. 365 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.839 So it was like elevator music, and you might hear 366 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.960 Kenny G, but it's the muzak version of Kenny G. 367 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:32.000 So it's not the actual song. It's a voiceless, corporate 368 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:42.480 version of an actual pop song. Now, musak existed earlier 369 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.000 in the sixties and seventies, but I'm saying by the 370 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.799 nineteen eighties muzak was doing you know, I don't know. 371 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.599 You would hear Go West, but it would be the 372 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:58.720 muzak version of Go West, right, So sounds for the supermarket, right. 373 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:05.759 And so vapor wave was a layer of parodying all 374 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:11.480 of this by turning it into a critique of itself. 375 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.440 Right and probably everybody's heard of the Macintosh plus, right, 376 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:20.000 this was probably the biggest hit from this era of 377 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:25.559 vapor wave, critiquing this type of nihilistic, meaningless s mall 378 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.279 culture or corporate culture. And if you grew up in 379 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.880 the eighties, you resonated with this very well, right, It 380 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.000 hits you somehow, there's something about it that makes sense 381 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:41.440 because you're reminiscing and remembering a time when it was 382 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.119 a very different world. So again, liminal space is hitting 383 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.200 everybody so hard, not just because of nostalgia, but because 384 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.119 we are on a threshold of moving into a world 385 00:29:54.359 --> 00:30:00.000 where the dystopia is actually rolling out. All of those eighties, 386 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.440 these movies, all of those dystopian films and stories and 387 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:09.240 novels and comic books, there was within the zeitgeist a 388 00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:14.200 prophetic sense that this is coming, that this will arrive. Now, 389 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.519 you could say maybe there was an actual prophetic gift 390 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.680 that art usually has oftentimes has We've talked about them 391 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.960 many times, or perhaps it was seated propaganda and some 392 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:28.680 of the blockbusters and productions. Who knows what the real 393 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:33.680 total explanation was. But we are resonating with it, not 394 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.599 just because of nostalgia, not just because of the past. 395 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.599 But this is something that I've heard no one else say, 396 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:46.160 And this is my thought. What if what if the controllers, 397 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:52.440 the social engineers, the technocrats, what if they've realized that 398 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.599 to really destroy the peoples and the people groups, to 399 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:04.200 corral them into the tech skynet dystopia. What if the 400 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.599 best thing to destroy. Obviously I'm saying this includes God, 401 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.799 the exists of God, all that stuff. Sure, and yeah, 402 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.000 they want to destroy the nuclear family. Hey, I get it, 403 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.640 I know all that, but nobody has talked about what 404 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:20.319 about destroying the past? What about wiping out and destroying 405 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:27.119 the idea of the past. To have the dystopia, to 406 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:34.720 have it successful, you must also wipe away any rootedness 407 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.599 or groundedness of the past. And I don't just mean, oh, yeah, 408 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.039 the global elites go into a city, a place they 409 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.000 bomb in the Middle East, they wipe out the past 410 00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.160 and they set up you know, the McDonald's dystopia. I 411 00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:51.119 know that, But what about on an individual level. On 412 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:55.119 an individual level, say a person who goes tr A 413 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.599 and Z. A person who goes tr A and Z 414 00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.720 say they're you know, hitting the era of puberty or 415 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:15.680 God forbid, even before. What is part of that ideology. 416 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.839 Part of that ideology is there was no past. You 417 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:25.240 were not actually born a man or a woman, you 418 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.759 didn't actually have the upbringing that you had. You can 419 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:33.039 erase all of that and immediately create a new identity 420 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:38.039 for the here and the now. So the presupposition of 421 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.200 all of the dystopia has to be a Maoist idea 422 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.119 of erasing all the past. And this is something that 423 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.880 they got from the Communists and the Maoists and the Marxists. 424 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.119 You must destroy the past. It must all come down. 425 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.680 It is like the Giver. Yeah, all of the dystopian 426 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.519 stories all so do you usually have some We've hidden 427 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.960 the past, right, which is a version of destroying the past. 428 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.759 But I'm just saying, whether it's the back rooms and 429 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.359 the idea that, oh you don't need books anymore, just 430 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.640 watch the YouTube videos. Oh you don't need to watch 431 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.200 YouTube video, just watch the shorts and the TikTok brain rot. 432 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.119 What is all of that about. It's all about squeezing 433 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.279 the time frame smaller and smaller so that there's no past. 434 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.559 In other words, within a video, you're not even remembering 435 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.359 what you saw twenty minutes earlier. In the video, you're 436 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.680 only remembering a sixty minute clip, and you perhaps you 437 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.799 even forgot what the sixty minute clip was saying, or 438 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.440 sixty second clip what it was saying in the first 439 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.799 few seconds. So the squeezing of the time scale smaller 440 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:54.680 and smaller is also concurrent with nobody has a pass. 441 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519 The pass is being squeezed into the right now, just 442 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.599 the now. The entire tech world and all of this 443 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:08.440 is built on immediacy, efficiency and immediacy. Why read a 444 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.639 book when you could ask the AI to summarize it 445 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:18.920 and give you a one sentence a five sentence summary. 446 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:24.960 Why do anything that isn't efficient? Why write a letter? 447 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.360 You have an email. I'm not saying the tech itself 448 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.440 is the problem. The problem is the more that everyone 449 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:37.519 gets addicted to the ease and the immediacy, then the 450 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.280 more that they begin to operate like an algorithm as 451 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:47.519 human beings, refining everything down to what's efficient what's not efficient. 452 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.199 That I think is something that I've not heard anyone 453 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.639 talk about in terms of and I know it's malis 454 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:07.719 saying that there's not Other people have talked about wiping 455 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.599 away the past, but I'm saying it's not just wiping 456 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.000 away the past from a culture or a person. It's 457 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:21.320 wiping away the past for individuals, your own past, and 458 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.480 there is no future. So we talk about, for example, 459 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.360 God being an eternal present, right, There's no past or 460 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.119 future with God, There's only the eternal. Now, this is 461 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:39.360 like a synthetic tech version of God giving you a godmind, 462 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.679 a fake mimicked, faking gay godmind, where you believe that 463 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.079 you're like the deity that only lives in the immediate present. 464 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:54.360 And they have studied the communist dictators and their strategies 465 00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.159 for wiping away the past in the physical world. But 466 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.599 what if they're wiping away the past from everybody in 467 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:10.760 the mental world and in their own family world. Because families, 468 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.239 for example, they have a story, they have a past, 469 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.360 have a present, and a future goals that they have 470 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.159 as a family. A nation has a past, a present, 471 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:23.079 and future goals as a nation state. But if everyone 472 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.400 lives online in the virtual, and the virtual denigrates the 473 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.159 past and tries to erase it and wipe it away 474 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.679 and to make everyone only focused on the immediate through 475 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:40.000 the dopamine addictions of the scrolling, then what happens is 476 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:46.440 everyone has a false godlike status of only living in 477 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:52.719 the present. Right, And as the back room story progressed, 478 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.199 as Caine made his videos, he started bringing in these 479 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:03.239 hooded sort of science dudes, right, because that's exactly what 480 00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:07.000 happened in today's world. If there was some portal to 481 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.159 another world or something like this discovered, why immediately the 482 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.280 science men would come to try to explain it, and 483 00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.119 they would do their tests, and they would begin to 484 00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:19.480 investigate the you know, early layers of the back rooms 485 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:24.760 and where they go, which is to say they go nowhere. 486 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:31.119 They lead to loops of meaninglessness. In fact, the back 487 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.280 rooms like a labyrinth or like the you know THESEUS 488 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:40.400 minotaur story, they actually change. They're not logical, they are illogical, 489 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.840 and they're more like prisons that trap you in a 490 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:52.199 sort of nihilistic meaninglessness, perhaps expressing the way everyone feels 491 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.280 that they're trapped in a nihilistic meaninglessness today. And he 492 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.440 really kept building on the architecture of the original idea 493 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.960 by people finding other doorways into the back rooms. Right. 494 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.960 So here's another one where this guy starts exploring, he 495 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.559 finds a door, and then he the deeper he goes 496 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.480 into the back rooms, and of course eventually gets lost. 497 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.440 He starts finding these sort of hellscapes that are like 498 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.199 fake model houses that are for sale. Right, and if 499 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.599 I remember, in this one, he kind of hears the 500 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.440 voices of like his sister through the wall or something. 501 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.239 This one's really good, it's pretty. This one was really 502 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.800 genuinely creepy. But you can never really get anywhere in 503 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.000 the back rooms. And just like in the story of 504 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.639 theseus in the Labyrinth and the minotaur right at at 505 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.239 at the heart of the of the labyrinth is a monster, 506 00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.440 and you can never really defeat the monster. Right, I 507 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.440 don't know what the monster might be. And I mean 508 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:02.400 people have positive different ideas, like it's the corporate monopoly 509 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:08.639 capital system itself that is the monster. And here, for example, 510 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.679 he gives he did some videos where he kind of 511 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:16.920 puts a animatronic sort of monster in the back rooms. 512 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.400 He called it the rolling Giant. And then he did 513 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.840 another one where there was a guy thing out in 514 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.840 the woods and he found this out in the middle 515 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:31.079 of nowhere, like a pothole or something, or like a 516 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.440 stairs near a tree. Yeah, here it is, there's these 517 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:40.920 stairs near a tree. And then even out in nature, right, 518 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.800 what's underneath nature, according to this version of the back 519 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:53.039 rooms is actually also this fake world of endless corporate 520 00:39:53.239 --> 00:40:03.760 back room creepiness. Right. Thus, all of reality itself via 521 00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:10.400 the videos is thus the upper layer of an infinite 522 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.639 it's infinite turtles all the way down of a fake reality. 523 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.320 What does this mean in my view? Because the back 524 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.960 rooms are really also kind of fake. In other words, 525 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.679 there's nothing actually and then that's useful or substantial or meaningful. 526 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:34.000 It's all just like worthless corporate desks, furniture, et cetera. 527 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:42.199 Then perhaps reality itself in the postmodern corporate world is 528 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:48.440 itself a meaningless virtual reality. Thus it speaks to all 529 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.599 the people who think that we live in a simulation, right, 530 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.199 they buy into this very easily. What if reality itself 531 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.039 is meaningless? Right, that's ultimately what this means. And if 532 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.639 you have this worldview, then real is meaningless, right, because 533 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.039 you're in this corporate viper system that makes you work 534 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.960 for it your whole life and then you die, and 535 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.039 so you're essentially like the office furniture. You're just another 536 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.960 piece of the office furniture that gets replaced once you're 537 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.840 no longer useful to human resources, and even human resources 538 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:26.079 itself is a denegrating, dehumanizing title because you're not actually 539 00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.840 a person. You are a battery, a resource, a limited resource, 540 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.519 or perhaps not limited, because you can easily just be replaced. 541 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.559 And thus the logic of the corporate world is just 542 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.920 simply to reproduce the meaningless corporate world that is it, 543 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.719 But included within that is getting rid of the humans. Right, 544 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.199 And thus people see, then what if all of reality 545 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:56.800 is really just this world, this healscape, And that, I 546 00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:01.960 think is what is the power of the film I 547 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.559 Suspect and the the art films and the project here, right, 548 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.400 is that this is speaking to everyone in some deep 549 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.760 archetypal level and in some deep deep archetypeal way that 550 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.480 all of modernity, because it's all premised on this ideology, 551 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.480 something is wrong. It's off, it's all upside down, and 552 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.000 of course many of the elements in layers and levels 553 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:35.840 are upside down within the back rooms, so much like 554 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:39.079 an mcsher painting, you're stuck in a strange loop, right, 555 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:40.800 and go back to our old talks and our old 556 00:42:40.880 --> 00:43:01.880 videos on the strange loops, watch some of this. I'll 557 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:06.639 be back. I love the Spell of Bright Palm in 558 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.079 the morning. 559 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.639 Don't take this the wrong way. But you're a little strange. 560 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:13.400 So am I. 561 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.039 So is everyone. And that's because day in and day out, 562 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.679 we believe in ourselves. I don't mean it in a 563 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.440 motivational way. I'm talking about believing in the self as identity, 564 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.480 the capital I, the home of our hopes and dreams, 565 00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.159 our thoughts and feelings. It may feel perfectly ordinary to 566 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.480 be a conscious experiencing being, but it's that very sense 567 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.679 of ordinariness which is itself extraordinary. Here's why our cognitive 568 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.480 abilities have evolved to such a high level. That, in 569 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.400 addition to perceiving the world around us like a lot 570 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:39.039 of other species. 571 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:41.320 All right, so we're gonna talk a little bit about 572 00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.960 philoshop perception right here. And for those that don't know, 573 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.679 a strange loop is this idea from a real one 574 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.400 of these sort of genius type characters a Douglas Hofstetter. 575 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.519 He wrote Gardell esher Bach. You guys know, we've talked 576 00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.440 about the loops that Gardell talked about in terms of 577 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.800 set theory, and Hofstatter got the Nobel Prize for writing 578 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.840 that book because he noticed patterns with the way that 579 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.320 sets work, the way that music works, particularly certain Bach 580 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:15.440 and Beethoven symphonies the way they're written, and also with 581 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.760 mc usher's art, with the dimensionality that exists within his 582 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.239 art because it's two D, but it shows all these 583 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.760 three D images right and sometimes, especially within the labyrinth paintings, 584 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.239 you find these infinite loops. And so he formulated this 585 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:37.519 connection between language, perception, set, theory, music, all these different 586 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.159 domains and how there is this repeated pattern of the loop, 587 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:46.880 and nobody else has noticed the back rooms also being 588 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.320 the same type of a strange loop. 589 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.119 Now watch this to perceive ourselves as well, which means 590 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.760 we perceive ourselves perceiving. This, in turn gives rise to 591 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.559 the self the conviction that there's something in your brain 592 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.920 having ideas, forming opinions, making decisions, and commanding the body. Now, 593 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:00.599 if I were to ask you who doing all that, 594 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.840 you'd probably answer me, I am. But what exactly do 595 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:04.760 we mean when we say I consider this? You're the 596 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.159 realist thing in your life. You're at the center of 597 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.480 every experience you've ever had. Every site, smell, taste, feeling, 598 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.440 and memory has been mediated by your senses. And yet 599 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.199 when we start to investigate what exactly is going on 600 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.360 in the mind. When we say I, something trippy happens, 601 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.519 the concrete conviction of who you are, who I is 602 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.840 starts to crumble. Not only that, but the very reality 603 00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.079 of I comes into question. Follow this thread far enough 604 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.920 and you run smack into a paradox. This is known 605 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.079 as the paradox of self, and its conclusion is equal 606 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.559 parts fascinating and unsettling. It argues that although we. 607 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.960 Know now Just a little side note, this is relevant 608 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.519 to what we argue when we talk about the transcendental argument. Right, 609 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.280 and the transfient argument for God is specifically a theological 610 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:42.719 type of argument, but the transcendental argument history also relates 611 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.760 to all kinds of other things. Right, You could do 612 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.880 a transcendental argument for the self. Right, In other words, 613 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:49.639 how do I know that there's a self? Well, there 614 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.800 must be some perceiver to have knowledge. Right, Having knowledge 615 00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.360 for the presupposes a no werre. And so Kant argued 616 00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.880 that to make a knowledge claim at all is a 617 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.920 presubositional type of art argument for a transcendental unity of 618 00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.880 apperception concept and all that that's just fancy terminology for 619 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.719 the self, that there is some sort of conscious self 620 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.000 that is the har of the experiences or a har 621 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.360 of the knowledge, right. And so that's kind of touching 622 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:16.920 on this here. 623 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.639 Intuitively, that there's an eye, we can't empirically prove it 624 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.679 without referring back to ourselves yourself. 625 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:25.320 So, in other words, referring to the self presupposes the self, 626 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.280 because there's a self having the experience of self. Right. 627 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.960 So there's this strange loop here. And this is why 628 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.039 I've always argued that Girdel's incompleteness theorem is a kind 629 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.519 of loose, adjacent type of thing to a transcendental argument. 630 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.400 Of your eye, whatever you want to call it, confirms 631 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.000 and reinforces its own realness. But if the reality of 632 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.039 the self is founded upon a recursive logic, you have 633 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:49.079 to wonder how reasonable is it to believe in the self? 634 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:50.800 How real are you? Who are you? Do you exist 635 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:51.119 at all? 636 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.719 And this is just an our introductory video. I think 637 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.280 this guy's like a YouTube philosophy dude. This is an 638 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:06.800 introductory video to what the Hofstatter book is about. And 639 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.639 you will see very soon. I'm not gonna play the 640 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.519 whole thing, but you'll see how this relates back to backrooms. 641 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:14.920 There are literally thousands of ways to answer these questions. 642 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.519 It's why neuroscientist Todd Finberg begins his book From Axons 643 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.719 to Identity by writing, there are nearly as many conceptions 644 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:21.480 of the self as there are writers on the subject, 645 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.960 and to complicate matters even more, ideas generated from these 646 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.920 diverse viewpoints are often unrelated or mutually incompatible. So you 647 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.760 can turn to neuroscience or cognitive science, or philosophy or religion. 648 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.760 But whichever you choose, you're bound to draw complaints that 649 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.159 you ignored or misinterpreted or flat out didn't understand some 650 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.280 crucial aspect of the self, which is basically my way 651 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.159 of saying sorry in advance if I ruffle some feathers. 652 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.239 The best approach draws from as many fields as possible, 653 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.559 all of which have something useful to contribute to our understanding. 654 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.000 That's why in this video I rely heavily on Douglas Hofstadters. 655 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.639 I am a strangely an ambitious, creative, beautiful attempt to 656 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.199 answer these questions by drawing from math, art, music, science, 657 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.960 philosophy and personal experience. Howstadter, who won the Politzer Prize 658 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.880 in nineteen seventy nine for his book Girdle usher Bach 659 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.159 as a knack for interdisciplinary study. He boast the background 660 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.000 in math, physics, cognitive science, computer science, and artificial intelligen 661 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.000 He composes music. He speaks several languages. He translated Alexander 662 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.760 Pushkin's novel Eugene Oegan. This guy is a polymath. He 663 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.719 sees patterns and parallels where the rest of us would 664 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.320 never have thought to look, which makes him the perfect 665 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.760 guide through the treacherous paradox of self. Hofstadta defines the 666 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.480 problem as a rift between two levels of being that 667 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.920 the self seems to occupy simultaneously. On the one hand, 668 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.360 I is an expression denoting a set of very high abstractions, 669 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.519 a life story, a set of tape. 670 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.800 I note also these two levels and how this could appeal, 671 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.079 how this could have applied to the show's severance, or 672 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.920 how this could also apply to the idea of the 673 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.800 back rooms. Right this world where you enter and you 674 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:34.920 can't really get out of it. It's almost like an 675 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.679 internal psychological structure where you're stuck inside a loop versus 676 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.559 the exterior world, which makes sense and is rational. 677 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.000 A bundle of hopes and fears, this one we know 678 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.559 intuitively through daily experience. And yet on the other hand, 679 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:48.800 eye is an expression denoting a physical object made of 680 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.679 trillions of cells, each of which is doing its own 681 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.760 thing without the slightest regard for the supposed hole of 682 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.679 which it is but an infintesimal part. This one we've 683 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.880 discovered through scientific observation, but it is not part of 684 00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:58.920 our lived experience. Is one level of the eye the 685 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.400 correct real interpret or can both be real at the 686 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:01.880 same time? 687 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.559 And this is also the question of consciousness, right, there's 688 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:10.239 something beyond just the physical material substrate that holds you know, 689 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:14.440 the body together, the atoms and the bones and all that, 690 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.800 the molecules. There's something else beyond that that is the 691 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:19.360 eye that's having the experiences. 692 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.800 So how to begin answering these questions. Let's take a 693 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.840 look at the architecture of the self, or that am 694 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.480 I consciousness in the self don't just switch on like 695 00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:29.559 a light when you're born. It's not delivery. It's to Jorno. 696 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:31.280 Some of the ingredients are there, but it takes about 697 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:33.480 five years to metaphorically bake in consciousness. 698 00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.280 This just gets into the question of consciousness. I'm going 699 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.519 to skip past this and move a little bit further 700 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.960 up to like descartes of the philosophical questions, it. 701 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.159 Is sprinkled all over your brain, or maybe, like Descartes, 702 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:45.559 you could believe that the seat of the soul is 703 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.199 located here in the panal gland. If so, then you're wrong, 704 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.079 not only because that's been disproven, but because this isn't 705 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:50.719 the panal gland. 706 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:51.159 This is. 707 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.000 But from what we can tell empirically, it appears that 708 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:54.960 the self resides within the structure of the brain. A 709 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:56.880 reasonable course of action might be to break everything down 710 00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.199 into its most basic parts. This is called the reductionist view, 711 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.960 which argues that the entire fire system that adds up 712 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.760 to the eye can be explained by zooming into the 713 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.880 lowest informational level. For example, if you wanted to know 714 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.360 why we. 715 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.679 All know the problems with the materialist productionist to you, 716 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.000 so I'm gonna skip ahead little bit more sheer volume. 717 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.679 Instead, we shift up several informational levels, from binary pass 718 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.920 pixels and sound waves to the abstract level of images 719 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.800 and words. The same issue crops up when we're trying 720 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.000 to understand the consciousness. You could reduce it as roboticis 721 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.280 Hans Morovic does, to a bunch of squirting chemicals, and 722 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.159 it is that. But it would be meaningless. We have 723 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.519 to simplify and abstract to jump up levels because our 724 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.480 brains can't handle the information overload otherwise, trickle not fire hose. 725 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.239 Remember it's why we talk about wars in terms of 726 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.760 armies instead of each individual soldier, or hurricanes instead of 727 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.400 rain drops. Like it or not, we're bound to these 728 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.079 higher levels. There's another problem though. If consciousness is at 729 00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:38.760 its most basic level, the result of a bunch of 730 00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:40.719 atoms randomly bumping into each other, then why does it 731 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.360 feel like you're Does that mean? 732 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.960 Well? All right, now, let's move up to the connection 733 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.239 to the esher part, because that's where it gets really 734 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.960 fascinating in terms of the loops within, say the labyrinths 735 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:51.880 the Esher would draw. 736 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.519 You know what a loop is, the water cycle, the 737 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.960 circulatory system, night and day. In each case you eventually 738 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.639 end up where you began. But a strange loop is 739 00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.639 a lot Stranger hosted or explains it as not a 740 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.000 physical circuit but an abstract loop in which, in the 741 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.400 series of stages that constitute the cycling around, there's a 742 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.000 shift from one level of abstraction to another, which feels. 743 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.440 Like an upper by the way, which refutes materialism because 744 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.199 you couldn't do these abstractions if everything were just base matter. 745 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.719 This movement in a hierarchy, and yet somehow the successive 746 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.239 upward shifts turn out to give rise to a closed cycle. 747 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:20.519 That is, despite one sense of departing ever further from 748 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.239 one's origin, one winds up to one shock exactly where 749 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.280 one had started out. In short, a strange loop is 750 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:28.079 a paradoxical level crossing feedback loop. That's a lot to 751 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:29.960 chew on at once, so let's break it down into 752 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.360 smaller bites. Some of the most popular visual representations of 753 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.119 a strange loop come from the work of mc escher. 754 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.519 Like drawing hands, here we have a simple two level paradox. 755 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.199 We see an upward shift from two D to three 756 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.280 D from drawn to draw, and yet there's a violation 757 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:41.880 in this upwardness since but. 758 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.679 Remember the drawing itself is two D. So it's matta 759 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.639 because it's a two D drawing representing two D transitioning 760 00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.280 into three D right, which shows us that there are 761 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:54.679 other dimensions. 762 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.119 By the way each hand owes its existence to the 763 00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.360 work of the other. Or consider the paradox of waterfall. 764 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.599 The water flows down a course before pouring. Oh the waterfall, 765 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.360 only to wind up where it began. Once again, the 766 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.440 hierarchy of levels has been violated. These sketches are helpful analogies, 767 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.559 but they're not full fledged strange loops, because well, they're 768 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.039 not real. There are, however, two real life examples. One 769 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.920 is mathematician Kirt Girdle's in completeness theorrem which contains self 770 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:14.760 referential proofs. But I was in the lowest level math 771 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.480 class in school, so I'm not going to attempt to 772 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.159 explain it. The other real life strange loop is you 773 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.519 guessed it the self. According to Hofstatter, there are two. 774 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.960 Crudible well in regard to the in completeness theorems. Basically, 775 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.519 this was a dispute with bertrand Russell that focused on 776 00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.559 the question of whether or not, as Russell thought, mathematics 777 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:34.960 could be a complete explanation of all reality, and Gridell's 778 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.360 response was I can prove from mathematics itself that mathematics 779 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.639 cannot explain all reality and use set theory to say 780 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.440 that you can never have a complete set because a 781 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:48.519 set would also at some point necessarily refer outside of itself. 782 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:53.960 Thus set theory refutes the reductionist idea of a completely 783 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.760 logical explication of all reality. Thus you could see why 784 00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.480 it relates to transcendental type of argument. 785 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.639 Actual elements that make the self a ste loop. The 786 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.719 first is an ability, the ability to think. We don't 787 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.199 just passively receive input, we perceive, and in doing so 788 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.880 we distill a dizzying amount of raw information into abstract 789 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.119 symbols in our minds. The second element is an inability, 790 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.639 namely the inability to peer below the level of symbols. 791 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.800 Our innate blindness to the world of the tiny forces 792 00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.199 us to hallucinate a profound schism between the goal lacking 793 00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:19.840 material world of balls and sticks and sounds and lights 794 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.000 on the one hand, and a goal pervaded abstract world 795 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.159 of hopes and beliefs and joys and fears on the other, 796 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:26.480 in which radically different sorts of causality seem to rain. 797 00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.880 Although it so this gets into like free will and 798 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:30.559 all that too. I'll give you guys this full video 799 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:32.679 if you want to watch it later but don't want to 800 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:34.199 get back to the back rooms, because that's really all 801 00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.559 that was relevant to the back rooms in that discussion 802 00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.280 and that helpful little video there. But we've talked about 803 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.719 that for a good while. Now, with regard to Cane's presentations, 804 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:50.400 there's also these pitfalls in these areas where it can 805 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.760 get worse for you. Right, you can fall into places 806 00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.000 where you feel like you're back to normal reality, but 807 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.920 you're actually just in another version of the hell world. 808 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.079 Right movies have done this too, Right, This is kind 809 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.960 of a recurring presentation where you come out, you think 810 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.880 that you're back to your your neighborhood, you're actually just 811 00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.039 in like a worse, uh you know, demonic version of 812 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:16.239 your neighborhood. So really cool stuff. I do expect the 813 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.000 back Rooms trailer or the Backrooms film to be really good, 814 00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:23.079 and it looks like people are going to explore it further. 815 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.400 They're going to get lost, probably what will happen, And usually, 816 00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.000 I mean, I don't know, maybe not, but usually in 817 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.599 horror films, what's going on is that you're the cause 818 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.719 of your own prison, and so you have to confront 819 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.119 your own trauma to get out of the horror of 820 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:41.079 the back Rooms. But that's my thoughts on the liminal 821 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.320 space in the back Rooms. What do you guys think? 822 00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.400 Do you think that I'm wrong in my analysis? Do 823 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.239 you think that my thoughts, missing my notes, trying to 824 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:50.440 make sure I got up to all the points I 825 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:56.960 wanted to get to to recap. It's erasing the past. 826 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.760 There is no past, present, or future in the back rooms. 827 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.239 There's just wandering to an infinite bunch of meaninglessness. It's 828 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.880 existential dread and corporate nihilism. Corporatism is innately thus in 829 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.760 the presentation of the back rooms, anti human. The liminal 830 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:21.039 space is typically harkening back to the eighties and the nineties, 831 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.480 which was the last of the pre virtual, pre Internet era, 832 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:29.719 so we are longing for the human realm. The liminal 833 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:33.039 space is also very much like the Internet in that 834 00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.679 it doesn't have a lot of meaning. The meaning can 835 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.360 very quickly be replaced and forgotten. Nobody remembers the news 836 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.079 stories online from five years ago right. For example, search 837 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.000 engines have recently been retooled to where you really can't 838 00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.679 find old archived stuff anymore, and that was all by design. 839 00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.000 That's a version of erasing the past so that you 840 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:59.920 only live in the immediate. It's industrial Gothic or instant 841 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:05.760 tutional gothic. It's the updated version of Gothic horror. Even 842 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.760 the idea of no clipping into the back rooms shows 843 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:12.400 the gamification of all reality. Reality is now seen like 844 00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.880 the virtual, like the like the Internet world. So the 845 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.599 simulacra has replaced the simulation, which is the point of 846 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.760 Baudriard's whole essays right almost again a kind of a 847 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:26.639 prophetic warning even in films like The Matrix, and the 848 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:31.360 Matrix is ultimately sort of gnostic. It's a neo gnostic presentation, 849 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.039 but there's still some truths within the idea of the Matrix, 850 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.119 like what if we live so much in the virtual 851 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:43.239 that the real world actually just gets replaced and becomes 852 00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.760 the virtual as well. And there was a guy who 853 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.639 made a videos. I think he's an Orthodox Seraphim Wirch. 854 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.159 I forget his exact name. I'd not seen his stuff before. 855 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:54.719 I'd heard of him before, but I never really watched 856 00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:56.519 his videos. He did a good video on this the 857 00:56:56.519 --> 00:57:02.119 other day where he argued that the the virtual world 858 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.400 doesn't have to even be a thing that you always 859 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:09.199 live in perpetually, like in some compod because if you 860 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:12.639 spend all of your time in the virtual world online, 861 00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.960 if you you know, significant amounts of time, and it 862 00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.400 actually programs you to act more like an algorithm like 863 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.920 a total spurg, like a spur of God five thousand, 864 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.760 spurg Lord five thousand. Then you're already almost a virtual person, 865 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:33.119 and you will already reinterpret the external real world as 866 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.960 a virtual world. You're going to treat it the same 867 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.719 way as the Internet world. So the Internet world already 868 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:42.960 is the simulaca replacing the simulation or the fake world. 869 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.360 So you might not even need simulation theory because people 870 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:50.480 are already going to read all of reality as like 871 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:58.320 the simulation or like the virtual. We mentioned severance, We 872 00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.559 mentioned the in between upside down, We mentioned vapor wave, 873 00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:07.760 synth wave. What if reality itself is breaking and bending? 874 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.559 Are we seeing all reality as virtual? So it might 875 00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:12.760 not be like some sort of cosmic horror in the 876 00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:16.199 sense of you know, Cthulhu, or then the sense of 877 00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:21.800 like HP Lovecraft, where metaphysical reality itself begins to break down, 878 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.760 although who knows, maybe is maybe at the end of 879 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.159 the world metaphysics itself starts breaking. I don't know, but 880 00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:33.400 like what if, what if the bleeding and breaking of 881 00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:37.840 reality isn't the actual external world but the way that 882 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.679 everybody's internal world and their worldview, their paradigm gets reprogrammed 883 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:47.360 and restructured through the symbiotic loop of the Internet. What 884 00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:52.159 if that retooling of the inner world of people then 885 00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:57.800 basically just makes them interpret the external world in these 886 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.920 mind controlled hellish ways. Do you see what I'm saying? 887 00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:03.320 So you don't have to actually change the world, like 888 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.679 well we're gonna, you know, turn on CERN to make 889 00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.920 it like fuck up metaphysics and reality. Well, all you 890 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.480 have to do is like rech tool and re imprint 891 00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:17.599 the mind of the humans to misinterpret reality itself. And 892 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:19.880 then you you don't have You don't need a CERN 893 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.159 machine that makes time go backwards or some crazy shit, right. 894 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:27.719 You just need dummies to be reprogrammed to interpret reality wrongly. 895 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.880 And that's much more hellish and possible than turning on 896 00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.639 CERN and making the past be erased or make Donald 897 00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:42.280 Trump time trout whatever bullshit people think about CERN. There 898 00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.239 was a novel about this which I had not heard of, 899 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:49.840 called House of Leaves, And I'll find the guy's video. 900 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:54.480 Let's see who was that guy. I have to think 901 00:59:54.519 --> 01:00:03.880 of this guy's video. I should have saved it, but 902 01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:18.400 I don't think I remember it too. This is it? 903 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.960 So not really familiar with this guy's content. But I 904 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.599 did enjoy his philosophical ruminations on the back Rooms, and 905 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:32.920 so I'll give him some credit because his video inspired 906 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:35.000 me to do this video, so you could get his 907 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.199 take on it. Like, he comes off as kind of agnostic, 908 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.760 sort of atheist type dude, but he did have some 909 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.599 interesting insights. And he referenced this story House of Leaves, 910 01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.400 which is also very similar to what we're talking about. 911 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.239 We mentioned the Theseus Minotaur labyrinth story. We referenced that 912 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:54.320 extensively in our lengthy analysis of the Shining. The Shining 913 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.119 is another presentation of the Labyrinth and the Theseus story. Jack 914 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:05.000 is the minataur that's all self conscious. But so yeah, 915 01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:08.159 so that's all of my ideas on it. It's a threshold, 916 01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:12.599 but a threshold to where a threshold to perhaps Hell 917 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.320 bleeding into hell world bleeding into our world. Perhaps a 918 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.800 threshold of the actual dystopia rolling out, the one that 919 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.519 was warned about in all of these nineteen eighties and 920 01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:29.360 nineties fiction stories, now manifesting into reality out of the 921 01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:33.480 collective unconscious. Right, Perhaps that's really what's going on with 922 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:36.559 the back Rooms. But I want to know what you 923 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:40.639 guys think, Michael says for five dollars nothing, thank you. 924 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.360 Michael in the field two dollars, Yo, you live homie. Yeah, 925 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.360 I got to figure out how to get restream to 926 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.199 stop automatically turn As soon as I open restream, it 927 01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:55.519 automatically starts streaming. I got to figure that out. Y'all 928 01:01:55.559 --> 01:02:02.639 want to go to a back rooms. The vibe is 929 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:08.599 definitely horrific. It's a new type of horror like none other's. 930 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:11.880 It's cosmic horror for sure. Squirrel two dollars. The new 931 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.239 Mormon space Wife sounds like a modern or modest mouse. 932 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.440 It does d jewels. Five dollars. Ooh you fancy now gone. 933 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.239 I'm about to ruie twenty dollars. Thank you so much, Mickey, 934 01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.880 two dollars for your Indian the HydroD Crew. Zombie Hunter 935 01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:30.000 sends a big old fat one hundred dollars. Thank you. 936 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:31.639 He's winning the super chest and the night and Zombie 937 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.719 Hunter says, Jay, the people crying about Massy on x 938 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:40.000 or cringe as fuck, especially Zionist billionaires jeff Yass who 939 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.119 also funded him. This shows the moral relativism of the 940 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.760 libertarians and how deep they are by oligarchs that fund 941 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.360 any side or every side. Can you do a Ted 942 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.599 talk on this topic. Yeah. I think it's not surprising 943 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:57.639 because people don't look into who fund stuff, and if 944 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.079 you've got powerful oligarchs on the both sides, this is 945 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:06.760 really the tale of politics for forever. Politics is always 946 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:11.079 a who's funding it game. It's not the rhetoric of 947 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.480 the politician, it's who's putting the money behind the person. 948 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.119 In fact, we were just watching Peaky Blinders and I'm 949 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.920 getting near the end and by the sixth season, as 950 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.239 is always the case in mafia stories, right uh Killian 951 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.679 Murphy has you know, climbed the ladder to being an 952 01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:36.559 international corporate syndicate. And he's involved now in politics, right, 953 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.360 And he's a politician. He's part of the Labor Party, 954 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:41.760 and lo and behold, not only is he part of 955 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.599 the Labor Party, he's also on the down low working 956 01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:49.800 to undermine the fascists in terms of Ian Moseley, he's 957 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:56.639 also working to steer the IRA right Irish Republican Army. 958 01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:01.920 He's also working to steer and control the underworld, and 959 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.280 so he's playing all sides. In fact, there was a 960 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.719 great scene reminiscent of the famous scene in The Prisoner 961 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.840 the excellent TV show, which also illustrated this point where 962 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.440 he's explaining to the IRA girl because she's like, what 963 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.599 side are you on? Are you on the communist side? 964 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:21.079 Are you on the socialist Labor party side? Are you 965 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:24.039 on the democracy side? Are you on the organized crime side? 966 01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:26.400 Or are you on the fascist side? And he's like, 967 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.800 there's a circle. All of these sides eventually meet. He says, 968 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:32.599 if you go far enough to the right, he says, 969 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.920 you'll meet the far left. And he says, I'm in 970 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:43.960 the middle because I am a rising corporate elite and 971 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.760 I want to use, when is necessary, all of these 972 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.920 ideologies to my own ends. I wonder if I could 973 01:04:52.960 --> 01:05:09.079 find that Prisoner's scene that shows that, Oh, I think 974 01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.199 it's the one that is it the Global Village? I 975 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:16.239 think it's a Global Village. I wonder if I could 976 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:23.440 get away with planet or will it copyright it? Yes, 977 01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.960 this is it right here. So now, if you've ever 978 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:33.519 never watched The Prisoner, it's amazingly deep philosophical spy show. 979 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.760 There's never been a show like this. It's a spy 980 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:42.480 show that's also like super deep conspiracy and philosophy lore. 981 01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:45.400 Nothing like it ever. It only went one season. But 982 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.800 if you don't know, Patrick McGowen plays the former British 983 01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:54.440 spy who's taken off to this retirement village for former 984 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.559 spies because the spies know too much and they have 985 01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.920 to send them off to this place in the middle 986 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.559 know where they don't actually know where they are. And 987 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.440 this is actually real, right, This is based on a 988 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.199 real place. Obviously this is sci fi sort of dystopian 989 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.760 version of it, but there really was a place in 990 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.599 Scotland where they would would truck these dudes off and 991 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:17.960 kind of keep them locked up in this like hospice 992 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.920 place in Scotland, right, So it's based in reality. I 993 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:24.800 read a whole bunch on this and it's it's a 994 01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.400 significant section of my first book, right because it's very 995 01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:30.519 insightful to what's going on, and it's very relevant here 996 01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:30.960 watch this. 997 01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:35.800 People who don't which means that there are some people 998 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:39.519 who leave this place and some who do not leave. 999 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:43.800 So Patrick mcgoon on the left there, right, he's against 1000 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.800 this whole system now because he doesn't understand why as 1001 01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.840 a faithful, you know, British intelligence operative, he's been retired 1002 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:55.079 and sent off to this dystopian controlled village and He's 1003 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.840 talking to his sort of controller handler person who he 1004 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.800 thinks runs the village, and he is like, whose side 1005 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:01.960 are you on? Watch this? 1006 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.920 You are obviously staying, Has it ever occurred to you 1007 01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:08.920 that you're just as much a prisoner as in No, 1008 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.519 my dear Jah, of course I knew too much where 1009 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:15.480 both lifers. I am definitely an optimist. That's why it 1010 01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:19.400 doesn't matter who number one is. It doesn't matter which 1011 01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.079 side runs the village. It's run by one side or 1012 01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.840 the other, certainly, but both sides are becoming identical. What 1013 01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.920 in fact has been created an international community here? 1014 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:36.360 That the village is an international type of community that 1015 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:40.360 will mirror the macrocosm of the international community coming out 1016 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.159 of the Cold War, a perfect blueprint for world order. 1017 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.119 When the sides facing each other suddenly realize that they're 1018 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.639 looking into a mirror, they will see that this is 1019 01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:50.159 the pattern for the future the. 1020 01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.559 Whole Notice how prophetic that is. The Cold War would 1021 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:58.159 produce a dialectic that would result in a synthesis of 1022 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:03.000 a perfect controlled, corporate world order. And if you don't know, 1023 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.079 the whole village is run by a kind of all 1024 01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:10.320 seeing eye surveillance system that doesn't allow you to leave 1025 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:11.119 the village. 1026 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:16.560 As the village that is my I should. 1027 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:21.600 So the espionage controlled, dystopian world of the village is 1028 01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:25.000 the model for the New World Order. And the prisoner 1029 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:30.000 was telling you this in nineteen sixty seven. It's a 1030 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.880 super profound show. Nobody watches it, nobody's seen it except 1031 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:36.319 for a handful of people. Lord Voldemart mentions it all 1032 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:37.439 the time. That's why I end up watching it, I 1033 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.680 think because he mentioned it all the time. But if 1034 01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:42.920 you've never watched it, I know most people don't have 1035 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.279 the patience because it's not an action show. It's a 1036 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:51.520 high tier, high IQ sort of British drama almost. But 1037 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:53.640 if you do have the patience and the ability to 1038 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:58.159 watch it and the attention span, yes you would watch it. 1039 01:08:58.239 --> 01:08:59.680 Then you would actually be able to vibe with a 1040 01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.760 lot of my content if you understood what this show 1041 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.399 is about. Fallacy five dollars show a wig, A little 1042 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:09.560 bit of support, y'all. Y'all need to monetize this diva exactly, 1043 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:12.800 Scotty to Hotty ten dollars, Jay, do you have the 1044 01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:15.840 title for the Holy ray Ban song? I actually think 1045 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.760 it's up there with Paypiggy and Quasmo Quasimoto. I'll have 1046 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:20.840 to put it on YouTube. It's still just on my ex. 1047 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.479 It doesn't even have a title. Zero dot ten dollars. 1048 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.119 This is in support a wig xy anthem, Thank you, biscuit. 1049 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.920 Heead five dollars. Dude evolves more and is more into 1050 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.880 Smigel as he war was against the church. You talk 1051 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:38.880 about Rousselaw Rousselans turning into Smigel anymous at agent tenellars. Yeah, 1052 01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:40.720 we did that one earlier. Pop Belly got win ten dollars. 1053 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:43.520 Rouslan talks about marketing like he's selling rap CDs outside 1054 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:47.239 of a black community college, which he probably has done. 1055 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.399 Giovanni five dollars. I went to Steakhos the order of 1056 01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:54.279 Filet Mignon. The waiter came back, I said and said, 1057 01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:57.479 how was it? I said it was Philly okay, yeah, 1058 01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.680 that people want to debate us and don't even know 1059 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.159 what p No, it's the words in Curadian ten dollars, 1060 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.680 Queen of the Wig's Antium. How do I watch more 1061 01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:10.640 of your requiem streams? Requiem screams, oh, resident evil streams. Uh, 1062 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:15.479 They're the only ones I did are up. So I 1063 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.239 got to where I was so eager to play the 1064 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.359 game that I did in livestream. The whole game only 1065 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:22.640 live stream like twice, so sort of the cat ten dollars. 1066 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:27.239 Many Liminal Space videos also have the two thousands aesthetics. Yeah, okay, whatever, 1067 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:29.159 I mean, you know what I'm saying. It doesn't have 1068 01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:31.159 to Actually it only doesn't have to literally only be 1069 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:33.079 the nineties. It can be two thousand and one or two. 1070 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:37.319 That's fine. Yeah, there's a Windows Vista Air aesthetics that okay, 1071 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:39.800 I mean, let's not nitpick, dude, but thank you for 1072 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.279 the super Jed Jamil fifty dollars. Father Hears just talked 1073 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:44.119 to David Wood on his stream. I did see that. 1074 01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.920 I thought about doing a live stream on that, but honestly, 1075 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:50.680 I just wasn't in the mood to do another prot 1076 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.439 slop drama stream. I'm just like, after a while it 1077 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.359 gets old, Like I mean, we did twenty hours, thirty 1078 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.840 hours of streaming on that last week. I just need 1079 01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:03.039 to talk about something else. Turns out Protestants needed exorcism. 1080 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.760 The chat was so wild. All they did was talk 1081 01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:09.760 about Orthodoxy charging people for baptism, which was a lot. 1082 01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.039 Well that's all they have so, but I appreciate that 1083 01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.600 super chat. Maybe next week we'll review it or do 1084 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:19.600 a streamline. I just my mood is not prot slob. 1085 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.319 I can't talk about that for freaking forty hours straight, man. 1086 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.319 I got to take a break. Leontia is ten dollars. 1087 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.920 Somebody literally posted girdel Eshra back yesterday or earlier on X. 1088 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:31.840 I was reading about it for the first time. Very 1089 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:34.640 interesting content, very crazy that you brought. That's providence, dude. 1090 01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.920 Synchronousity is really just providence, basically the same thing. JB. 1091 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.239 Five dollars. My interest in cognitive philosophy and perception specifically 1092 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.680 was intrumental, instrumental in getting me to be received into 1093 01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:48.720 the Orthodox Neptic Tradition's that's great. Yeah, there's a lot 1094 01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:52.560 of amazing overlaps and parallels here. In fact, I may 1095 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.720 just title this the Liminal Space stream. I've been wanting 1096 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.359 to do that for forever. I don't really want to 1097 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:04.319 get into the room lunch it again, but look, I 1098 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.680 just it's just so it's much more fun to do 1099 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.359 go off into these other directions. Slow boy. Ten dollars. 1100 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.640 This is my penance to the Emperor and the biggest 1101 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.079 deva of Xanthia. You know what, you know what? That's right, 1102 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.640 let's talk god f dollars. Uncanny psychological horror is very 1103 01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:22.640 dominant modern horry. Yes, it's leaned on most in my opinion. 1104 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.039 Thus you have a win take when it comes to 1105 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.800 the backgrounds. Thank you, dog, mister fund Zerker. Ten dollars 1106 01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:32.239 if you enjoy back rooms. Graylock is a shift towards 1107 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:36.159 a deeper psychological occult territory. Is that a game or 1108 01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:40.439 is that a movie? It focuses on the human mind 1109 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.920 and it's manifesting a fake reality through occult mind control programs. Well, 1110 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.199 I did play the New Alan Wake, and a lot 1111 01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:50.560 of people were critical of the New Allen Wake, and 1112 01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:52.680 you guys know that we did some funny streams on that. 1113 01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:55.880 Everybody's cracking up about those. But I beat the game 1114 01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.079 and it ended up being the same type of stuff too. 1115 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.760 It was fun. It wasn't my favorite game, but it 1116 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.600 was fun. Epic skeptic ten dollars. Can we get another 1117 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:06.079 games room? Yeah, we will, we will. What about Knights 1118 01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:08.960 of the Old Republic? I think I have played that, 1119 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.479 sum I just forgot about it. I got busy playing 1120 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.000 so many other other things. Tweetbon ten dollars. There's three 1121 01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:17.520 great books that tie into your analysis about backrooms and 1122 01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:21.119 this corporate angle amusing ourselves to death. Yes I'm familiar 1123 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:25.399 with that technology by a Neil Postman yep, and Technology 1124 01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.840 Understanding Medium. I'm Marshall McLuhan. And then the rest of 1125 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.319 your supertest is cut off. But yes, I'm familiar with 1126 01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.439 those books. Tingu ten dollars. I actually just caused a 1127 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:37.000 schism from rap church. I started my own church in 1128 01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.960 the back rooms. Well, I guess we do need you 1129 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.000 might as well set a franchise up everywhere, So set 1130 01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.399 one up in the back rooms. Oh, that would actually 1131 01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.840 be pretty pretty fun. I'm gonna here's a fun use 1132 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:54.520 of AI. Get the AI to make a liminal space 1133 01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.000 backrooms version of a church. That would be awesome because 1134 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.239 it would actually end up being like Rhythm church. Look 1135 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:04.760 just like these fake asked business corporate church. What is 1136 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:09.920 Lovecraft's cats name? Two dollars? Can you answer my question? Please? Well, 1137 01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:11.840 you didn't ask a question, You just sent a two 1138 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.560 dollars super chat. We ain't got no question. By the 1139 01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.520 way around here, it's called question be Scott five dollars. 1140 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.960 Goal for the goal that we get near the goal. 1141 01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:23.920 We're almost at the goal. You guys want to support 1142 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.520 the stream. Help me hit that goal right now, right 1143 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.520 we're gonna hit that goal right el. We got like 1144 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:35.279 one super chat left to hit that goal. Although technically 1145 01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:38.920 we have hit the goal because YouTube doesn't register the 1146 01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:43.439 stream lab superchats. But we're almost there. Help me hit 1147 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.359 that goal right there. That's going to fund this big 1148 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.640 interview that we're doing. Y'all grant five dollars. I would 1149 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.000 love to see a reaction to the Avy Loop stuff 1150 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:53.039 that's going around. Oh I did watch part of that. 1151 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:58.600 Maybe we'll do that next time. So I saw this 1152 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:03.319 guy's video pop up, and I started watching. I watched 1153 01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.039 about with no one being able to answer. I watched 1154 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.800 more than fifty seconds. I got about six minutes in, 1155 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.119 and I do intend to get to this. What time 1156 01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:15.560 is it? We got some time, y'all want to do 1157 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.159 this right now? We might as well do this. We 1158 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:20.199 got some more time. We could do a reaction to 1159 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:25.239 Abby Loop. Grift Master, y'all, I'm the grift Master. I'm 1160 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:31.600 the grift master, spitting dope primes, I'm the grift Master. Dude. 1161 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:33.920 Rusalan is a grift Master. Can't nobody come close to 1162 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:34.840 Ruslan's drifting? 1163 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:36.239 Uh? 1164 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:38.680 You guys want me to keep going? Or y'all getting tired? 1165 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:43.560 Y'all getting tired? Because this will fit in I think 1166 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.960 with the strange or with the with the back rooms 1167 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.920 and stuff. Right, y'all want me to keep going? Hey, 1168 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:57.000 y'all want the good times for all? All right? Canonical 1169 01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.640 Beer ten dollars, Thank you so much, Vector of Intellect 1170 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:03.000 I do to the goal Justice ten dollars. Thank you 1171 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.880 for your service to wig Xantheon. Thank you, dog Lab 1172 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:10.239 Tip five dollars. Check out the short story feather Top 1173 01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:15.560 by Nathaniel Hawthorne. I've read Nathaniel Hawthorne. Do come on, like, 1174 01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.119 I don't know who I did English Dog. He's a 1175 01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:21.359 writer that Flannel O'Connor admired for storytelling and gothic grotesque. 1176 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:25.119 Feathertop's message on society intelligence the average person will hunt you. 1177 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:27.520 That's a really good idea. I need to do that. 1178 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:32.840 Let me write that down there. I also forget, dude, 1179 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:39.119 said Feathertop talking about Roselans Top. Yeah, but have you 1180 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:46.640 read Nathaniel Hawthorn's Broccoli Top, Good old Brocley Top Broccoley 1181 01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:53.039 top ruse On. Yeah, I gotta write it down. I forget, dude, 1182 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:58.439 what's it called? What about Liminal Business Church? Du That 1183 01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:06.359 is limit dude, his his church is Liminal Business Church. 1184 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:19.399 That's the thing. It's called feather talk. See a lot 1185 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:22.199 of y'all don't know. I've read a bunch of lit. 1186 01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.720 I was doing a lit grad degree lit and philosophy, 1187 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:28.760 you know, the one that I made up that I 1188 01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:30.880 lied about or whatever. No, I went all the way 1189 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:38.000 all but thesis abt H and my thesis was partly written. 1190 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:43.840 So I just published in peer review. But you said 1191 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:45.960 feather talk will haunt you. I'll check it out and 1192 01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.520 then you let's say, we got gray Locks, a YouTube series. 1193 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.640 I think I've seen that. Now that you say gray Lot, 1194 01:17:51.800 --> 01:18:02.039 I'm pretty sure i've seen that. Let me see. Yeah, 1195 01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:02.840 I think i've seen this. 1196 01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.399 These centials are not recognized. 1197 01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:17.600 Fair believers. We've men pursue evil. It is here back 1198 01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:22.560 in eighteen sixty four. Yeah, I think I watched this 1199 01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:27.680 or one like it. Maybe I haven't seen Graylock. There 1200 01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:32.319 was a YouTube horror you guys might know what I'm 1201 01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:33.880 talking about. I don't remember the name of it, but 1202 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:41.720 it was like instructional tapes when the social collapse has happened. 1203 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.119 I don't know if it's like a zombie outbreak or something. 1204 01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:48.520 It's like these videos of like into the world instructional videos. 1205 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:49.880 Do you all know what that one is? That was 1206 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.640 a pretty good one. I might be getting that mixed 1207 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:56.199 up with Greylock. I don't think I've seen this one, 1208 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.640 but there was one like this. If you guys know 1209 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:01.800 which one I'm talking about, mention it in the chat 1210 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:03.239 because I can't remember the name of that one. But 1211 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.479 it was also very popular. It had you know, million 1212 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.239 views or whatever. But I would like to get into 1213 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:14.079 this one if we have the time. Let's see put 1214 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:17.520 it on one point five. What's up, y'all? Thank you 1215 01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:19.680 guys for the chat. Yeah, that's a great point too. 1216 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.399 David Lynch also was doing liminal space horror before everybody else, 1217 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:27.720 for sure. Yeah, and somebody made a video of other 1218 01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:31.720 forgotten liminal space horrors. But a lot of them were 1219 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:36.279 pretty They were not very good, like B movies that 1220 01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:47.479 were just almost unwatchable. Since we're on this theme, I'll 1221 01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:58.960 pull it up. Yeah, this guy's channel, his name is 1222 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.479 a Nightmare Movies. I've only watched some of his videos. 1223 01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:09.239 This one that he did was it was It was 1224 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:12.159 pretty good, it was okay. The name of it is 1225 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:24.479 some on the movie what's it called? I remember trying 1226 01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.279 to figure out what the dame of the freaking movie 1227 01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:31.319 was that they forever because it's not listed anyway, you 1228 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.079 can go find the name of this movie. Like it 1229 01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.960 took me forever to figure out what it was. It 1230 01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.319 was an okay, B movie. It did have some creepy vibes, 1231 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.960 but it was such a such a B movie it 1232 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.880 was hard to watch. Uh. And then he did another video, 1233 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.359 I think, listing a bunch of limon old space horrors, 1234 01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.760 but they were not very good. Of course, obviously it 1235 01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.159 follows that's a classic that was really good, which which 1236 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.760 I heard they're making it. It follows too. I think Silent 1237 01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:06.960 Hill would count. I am a Silent Hill fan. Obviously, 1238 01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:12.720 my Home Drive obviously, you know, the Shining would count. 1239 01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:17.359 Lost Highway would count. I guess Blair Wisch Project would count. 1240 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.279 I don't like found footage horror movies. I think they sucked. 1241 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:25.279 They're really annoying to me. But I will say that 1242 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.560 the first one was pretty good. Twin Peaks Firewak with me. 1243 01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:33.800 Definitely liminal horror. Pulse was pretty good. Pulse was a 1244 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.399 better than I expected. And they they even did a 1245 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:41.000 remake with Kristen Bell, which is not as good, but 1246 01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:47.880 it was okay. It was definitely liminal space horror. Cube, 1247 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:50.039 but I don't think I've ever actually watched Cube. I've 1248 01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:51.760 heard it's good, but I don't think I've ever got 1249 01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:56.119 around to it. Dim Land, I don't know what dim 1250 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.399 Land is. I never heard of that one. That might 1251 01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:08.359 be cool. I did think Vivarium was good. For some reason, 1252 01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:10.479 we missed it. We never did a deep analysis of it. 1253 01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:12.640 I thought it was good. It was a good liminal 1254 01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:17.319 space horror, cosmic horrors. Of course, we've done Dark City 1255 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:20.880 many times. It's in Esterklawoo three. Now. Beyond the Black 1256 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.439 Rainbow definitely good. We did that. We covered that long 1257 01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:30.920 time ago, and pretty pretty much all of the Greek 1258 01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:37.720 just went blank on the Greek dude's name Mandy, right, 1259 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:40.239 obviously Mandy was he does this not have Mandy in 1260 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.560 the list? I mean, Mandy is better than Beyond Black Rainbow. 1261 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:52.439 Surely Mandy's in here. They didn't put Mandy. Know well, 1262 01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:56.199 they missed They missed one of the those what's this one? 1263 01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:05.079 Oh erink? Honestly, it looked too creepy for me to watch, 1264 01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:10.279 Like something about being stuck in the low res for 1265 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:12.880 the entire movie was just a little much. I just 1266 01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:17.760 couldn't do it. I can't believe they didn't put Mandy 1267 01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.840 on here. Man, he's like the most that's like the 1268 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:45.039 pinnacle of all of these. I apologize I'm not being 1269 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:46.800 able to figure out the name of this movie, but 1270 01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.079 this guy did. I think he intentionally didn't put the 1271 01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:51.119 name of it there so that you would like hunt 1272 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:53.079 around and click on the video and figure out what 1273 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.560 it is, which is pretty smart actually. But what do 1274 01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.159 you guys think is the best liminal horror film? I mean, 1275 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:07.720 definitely probably do so many of David Lynch's things are 1276 01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.960 going to be up there. I mean it follows as 1277 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:16.840 a classic, but I probably, I want to say probably 1278 01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:19.399 David Lynch, it follows, and Mandy would have to be 1279 01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:23.279 have to be the best. What do you guys think 1280 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:28.199 what movie sucked? Yeah? I like Colorado Space. I mean 1281 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.399 Mandy was a lot better than color Out of Space though, 1282 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:33.600 just overall as a film. I mean, Mandy is like 1283 01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:36.960 and there's some really intense parts that are hard to watch. 1284 01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:40.399 But I mean that movie is just that movie blew 1285 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:43.119 my mind dude out in the mouth of madness. Yeah, 1286 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.000 that's that's cosmic horror. I don't know if it's liminal. 1287 01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:47.960 It could be it's kind of liminal space. I like 1288 01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:53.239 the triangle, I like the void. Aren't they making a 1289 01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:55.279 part two? If it follows? Am I right about that? 1290 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.239 By the way, I have to say, uh, while we're 1291 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:14.560 on the on the movie tip there will be one 1292 01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.199 and immediately it's like, what are you doing this? 1293 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:24.640 And you are, in fact, finally we're doing it next. 1294 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:25.359 That's the next gig. 1295 01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:27.560 Yeah, that's the next job you said before. 1296 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.399 I've heard you talked about it. The script's pretty great. 1297 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.199 It's very it's very dark and. 1298 01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:36.600 Oh my god, but fucked up scale what literally got 1299 01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:37.079 once to time? 1300 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.159 It's pretty I mean, what would you put the first 1301 01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:40.560 one at nine? 1302 01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:42.680 You think? Yeah, I mean it's. 1303 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:43.279 So hard for me. 1304 01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:45.319 It's like not scared. 1305 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:46.560 Of course is not scared to me. 1306 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:50.239 So it seems like, you know, then this would probably 1307 01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:53.119 be like a fifteen sixt. 1308 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:56.239 So she's saying that it follows to will be a 1309 01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:00.479 fifteen on the one to ten liminal scale of crazy. Oh, 1310 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:03.119 there's already a trailer. No, that's got to be a 1311 01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:07.000 fake ass trailer. Dide. I hate fake trailers. They drive 1312 01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:07.560 me crazy. 1313 01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:07.800 Dude. 1314 01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:10.920 There's nothing worse than freaking fake trailers because you get 1315 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:16.800 all excited. You're like, oh, dude, they get Oh. But anyway, 1316 01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.159 I mean, I think Mandy, Mandy's got to be up there. Dude. 1317 01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:26.319 Come on, dude, you gotta be honest. It's crazy. Event Horizon. 1318 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.000 Event Horizon is just more of a just a freaking 1319 01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:40.560 space fake and gay space horror, dude, lawnmower Man, we've 1320 01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:45.479 done all these, by the way, Peewee's Great Adventures. Actually, 1321 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.960 it is kind of there's elements of liminal horror and 1322 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:52.640 pee Wee's Great Adventures. It's definitely trippy at times. It's 1323 01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:57.479 interesting too that along with right the back rooms vibe, 1324 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:01.239 in the liminal space horror vibe, that that's kind of 1325 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:05.479 taking over horror. Now, that is interesting. I didn't even 1326 01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:10.760 think about that because they started trying to make horror woke, right, 1327 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.600 and that's it doesn't work. It bombs. People don't want that. 1328 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:18.039 So it makes sense that this would be like the 1329 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:25.640 next you know, trend within horror for sure, mimics that's 1330 01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:27.920 not liminal space horror. What are you talking about? Y'all? 1331 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:31.199 Just playing now hell Raiser again. I don't know if 1332 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:35.640 hell Raiser really makes it. I mean, I think liminal 1333 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:41.720 Space just has to be like creepy, empty, corporate weird. 1334 01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:48.720 You know it's David Lynch's fan turning in a room 1335 01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:52.880 with just a lamp and a recliner, you know what 1336 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:57.560 I mean? Oh, I forgot you guys. Yes, I have 1337 01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:02.479 to mention. Uh, we will be doing as above so below. 1338 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:05.039 And that was actually way better than I expected. Again, 1339 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.000 I absolutely hate found footage horror movies, and that's why 1340 01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:09.680 I didn't want to watch as above so below. It 1341 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.159 was actually really good. And Jamie and I are going 1342 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:17.319 to be doing as above so below the Ritual and 1343 01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:22.000 we're revisiting Eyes Wide Shut and the Ninth Gate after 1344 01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:25.359 ten years. So let's do a little bit of this 1345 01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:27.399 because a lot of people were talking about this now 1346 01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.720 and I started it and didn't get to finish. I 1347 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:32.399 got distracted. So let's check this out. 1348 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:35.199 For a seemingly simple question, what was avy loop? And 1349 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.319 the more you search for answers, the more deranged this 1350 01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:40.119 trail becomes this is the story of a loop, YouTube's 1351 01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.600 darkest mystery, A lot more talk. 1352 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:46.560 So what are you waiting for? 1353 01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:51.359 Captain? Now? I'm under the impression that this is real, Right, 1354 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:56.279 this is not like a totally fictional sort of marketing thing. Uh, 1355 01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:58.920 because I haven't finished the video, so I don't exactly 1356 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:00.560 know where it goes, and I got a five minutes in. 1357 01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.520 So am I correct those that have watched that this 1358 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:05.079 is purported to be a real thing. 1359 01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.119 Welcome to abby Loop. You're collected by website for anything aviation. 1360 01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:15.239 The formula for abu loops content was simple. A young 1361 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.079 woman stands in front of a static white background dressed 1362 01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:18.560 in a flight attendants out of it. They refer to 1363 01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.479 themselves as deal attendants, and their job seems to be 1364 01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:22.319 sharing information about this new brand, avu Loop. 1365 01:29:22.439 --> 01:29:26.000 We offer deals of flight lessons, pilot accessories, fuel fdo services, 1366 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:27.760 shot of flights, and even small aircraft. 1367 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.359 You don't see that very often. The brand market in 1368 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.800 a number of unique aviation related services, making them appear 1369 01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:33.319 as a one stop shop for anyone in the industry 1370 01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:35.479 or just anyone interested in flying. Avuloup claimed to do 1371 01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.520 it all and at unbeatable prices too. Our deals are 1372 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:39.560 usually fifty to nine percent off. Promoting deals of fifty 1373 01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:41.199 to ninety percent off it hard. 1374 01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.239 Well, you know what this immediately reminds me of Remember 1375 01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:47.039 the connections that Jeff Stain McCaffrey had with the women 1376 01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:49.880 who offered to fly you on the planes. Like there 1377 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:53.560 was these ads and like promos of these chicks dressed 1378 01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:58.439 like flight attendants and that was part of the deal. 1379 01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:03.239 When you fly with Theef's time Iccairlines, Jeff's time Icairlines. 1380 01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:04.920 It seems like anything mysterious, just your standard subpar had 1381 01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:06.600 from the early twenty tens. But the more you watch, 1382 01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:08.960 the less clear it becomes. What exactly Obulum did. They 1383 01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:11.680 left their business incredibly vague. There were no prices, no locations, 1384 01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:13.680 and rather they just listed a bunch of flying buzzwords 1385 01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:16.079 offered at deals that seemed impossible. For example, they list 1386 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:18.000 fuels apply among their offerings, but how are they actually 1387 01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:19.800 getting the fuel and providing it at fifty to ninety 1388 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:21.439 percent off and we're in the country or even the 1389 01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:23.640 world are they offering it? It just doesn't seem realistic. 1390 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:25.520 What they're saying sounds fine on the surface, by the. 1391 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.319 Way, it's really fun to revisit because a lot of 1392 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:32.119 these movie podcasts. You know, we did a lot of 1393 01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:36.239 these analyzes back when we had like twenty thousand subscribers, 1394 01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:38.359 you know what I mean we did. We had thirty thousand, 1395 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:43.840 twenty thousand, and I mean we've got you know, ten 1396 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.840 times the subscribers now that we had back when we 1397 01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:49.359 were doing all of those. So maybe we need to 1398 01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:53.640 like review and revisit a lot of these movies that 1399 01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:56.560 we did, you know, before we had a larger audience. 1400 01:30:56.760 --> 01:30:58.039 But the more you think about it, the less sense 1401 01:30:58.039 --> 01:30:59.880 it really makes. It just seems too good to be true. 1402 01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:01.079 I have to mention how biz already is that this 1403 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:03.119 unknown company could come in and offer literally anything you 1404 01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:06.159 could want that's flying related with such exorbitant deals. Admittedly, 1405 01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:07.880 though this is easy enough to ignore and playoff is 1406 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.359 an ineffective or even deceitful advertisement, But there was something 1407 01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:12.399 else that was much harder to ignore about these commercials, 1408 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.159 with that being the deal attendants themselves. 1409 01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:19.159 So you guys are saying, I'm already nailed it, dude. Listen, 1410 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:24.199 when Jamie and I watch movies, I'm I'm like expert 1411 01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:28.680 movie detective. Now Jamie's like, I'll solve it like that, dude. 1412 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:30.600 I'll be like, well, like we'll be like ten minutes, 1413 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.000 and then five ten minutes in the movie, I'm like, 1414 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:35.279 oh it's They're like, oh, yep, that's it. Now. Every 1415 01:31:35.279 --> 01:31:37.279 now and then I'm wrong, because that's why the only 1416 01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:39.279 movies I like nowadays are the ones that can actually 1417 01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:41.720 trip me up, which is it's got to be like 1418 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:44.159 some crazy shit, right, like, oh, that was actually a 1419 01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:47.319 synthoid from another dimension. It wasn't that guy, right. Otherwise, 1420 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:48.880 like I'm going to figure out the movie right away. 1421 01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:51.800 Just ye of you claiming to be a professional aviation business, 1422 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:54.159 it's difficult not to notice how cheap these women's outfits appear. 1423 01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:56.560 They're clearly costumes rather than real flight attendant uniforms. 1424 01:31:56.600 --> 01:32:00.399 Now, that's what I'm saying, tinguz, like Jamie's like, Jamie 1425 01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:03.279 got me. This is the best example of this. I'd 1426 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:10.560 never seen Usual Suspects, right, And within the first minute 1427 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:13.079 or two minutes of the movie, I knew it was 1428 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:16.199 Kevin Spacey because in the shadow, the way that he 1429 01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:18.960 held the cigar is the gate and the stance that 1430 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:22.760 Kevin Spacey has, It's Kevin Spacey movie ruined within two 1431 01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:25.560 minutes right away, because this shows you the shadow of 1432 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.640 the villain in the first two minutes, like that's obviously 1433 01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:29.079 Kevin space you could tell the way stance. 1434 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:31.920 And they're clearly over sexualized too. They're essentially dressed as 1435 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.319 fetishized versions of actual flight attendants, which is bizarre as 1436 01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:36.119 one of the services that obviously claims to provide is 1437 01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:38.920 staffing for flight crews, which would include actual flight attendants. Yet, 1438 01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:40.600 for whatever reason, they chose to address these girls in 1439 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.199 seductive costumes. If they were trying to make these advertisements 1440 01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.279 look professional, they were failing miserably. And it wasn't only 1441 01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:46.319 the outfits that had a strength. 1442 01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:48.720 They all it looks kind of AI though, but they 1443 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:51.039 didn't have AI back then, right, So it's weird because 1444 01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:53.000 the way it looks now it's kind of like creepy 1445 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:53.840 and AI fake. 1446 01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:56.079 Looking sexual undertone to them. It was also the script 1447 01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:58.399 that the girls were reading, whether you want to learn. 1448 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:00.760 To fly chartered airplane, I see girls like me or 1449 01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:01.600 to see more girls like me? 1450 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:03.920 Abubup can help, abulup can help. So what are you 1451 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:06.800 waiting for? Captain any remember talk gun. Clearly you're attracted No. 1452 01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:10.880 I don't mean to be too dismissive here because I 1453 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:13.760 don't know where this is going to go. But I mean, 1454 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:19.880 is this video just about ladies of the evening Because 1455 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:22.800 I'm not saying that that's right, but I'm saying, like, 1456 01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:27.880 I mean, isn't that the second oldest profession. It's got 1457 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.840 to be something crazier than that, Like maybe they're trafficked 1458 01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:32.199 or something like that, or they're they're not of age. 1459 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:34.399 I don't know, but I mean, it's got to be 1460 01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.760 more than just you know, three oh four's right, that's 1461 01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:41.920 not that's exists since the beginning. 1462 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:42.000 Of the world. 1463 01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:43.800 This increases with every flight under your belt. 1464 01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:46.439 Bizarrely, the videos themselves were filled with sexual innuendos. 1465 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:48.600 Anyone who claims that humans were not meant to fly 1466 01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:50.920 never experienced the thrill of their own successful landing get 1467 01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:52.079 Ready to Fly big Boy Airplane. 1468 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:53.920 They were clearly trying to be more than a little flirty, 1469 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:55.399 which goes hand in hand with the outfits that they 1470 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:57.159 were donning. Now, some might argue that this was a 1471 01:33:57.199 --> 01:33:59.399 sign of times. In twenty eleven, edgy and over sexualized 1472 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.079 marketing was still very much in the norm, with several 1473 01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:03.199 major companies building their entire brands around the approach. But 1474 01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:04.720 the only problem here is that the videos made it 1475 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:06.520 unclear what ovul Loop was even supposed to be offering. 1476 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:08.119 Despite saying a lot, the lack of details made it 1477 01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:10.520 entirely and ineffective, like the business itself was an afterthought, 1478 01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:12.520 with the focus instead being on these women. In fact, 1479 01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:14.760 even in the channel's description, they simply wrote meet avy 1480 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:16.920 Loop deal Attendants. This is the official page for a 1481 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:18.920 brand new company trying to promote it services, and that's 1482 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:20.439 all they had to say. That's how they marketed their 1483 01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.039 entire company, making some wonder what was actually the role 1484 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:25.039 of these deal attendants and what was actually the purpose 1485 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:27.920 of avul Loop. The first and most likely theory at 1486 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:29.880 this point is that Avyloop was an overambitious company that 1487 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:32.159 used over sexualized marketing to build intrigue around its brand 1488 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:33.479 at a time when others were doing the same thing 1489 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:35.680 to great success. Maybe they weren't even off the ground. 1490 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:42.239 This just seems like of right of style arrangements before 1491 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:47.119 of is that what it is? Yeah? Like Girls Gone 1492 01:34:47.119 --> 01:34:51.159 Wild but private Jet edition. I'm not trying to downplay 1493 01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:55.159 like that. That's creeper, but you know there is there 1494 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.640 something more in terms of illegality going on here yea. 1495 01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:00.359 And over promising on services that they ho to one 1496 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:01.840 day to be able to provide, but for the time 1497 01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:03.199 being we're just throwing out there to get more people 1498 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:05.119 to visit their website. But with such a focus on 1499 01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.520 these deal attendants and just how strange these videos come across, 1500 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:09.399 some were left with a different theory that rather than 1501 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:11.880 ovul Loop using sex to sell their service, maybe sex 1502 01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:15.840 was their service. The theory goes that Ovyloop was affront 1503 01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.319 for pornography or even prostitution, poorly hidden under the guise 1504 01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:20.439 of this fake aeronautics company. This would explain the prominence 1505 01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:22.039 of these deal attendants, as they themselves may have been 1506 01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:24.119 the actresses or prostitutes, and it also explains the lack 1507 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:25.880 of information about the company itself as the reason their 1508 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:27.560 deals and services don't seem to make any sense. 1509 01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:32.960 Jeff Steime Mcarolines. I like that one, Jeff Steme mcgaerlines. 1510 01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:34.479 Was because they weren't actually offering them. It was all 1511 01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:36.479 just to cover up and honestly, just going off the 1512 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:38.479 eye test. This is how the page comes across. But 1513 01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:40.039 there are other details that make this theory a lot 1514 01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:42.600 more compelling for starters. In numerous videos, they mention an 1515 01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:44.920 unusual feature of their website that users can vote for 1516 01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:47.000 their favorite deal attendant and win prizes as a result. 1517 01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:48.920 You can even vote for your favorite deal attendant and win. 1518 01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:51.199 Special prizes, with one of these special prizes later being 1519 01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:52.640 revealed to be a one on one video call with 1520 01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:54.640 one of these deal attendants. This show is that the 1521 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:56.479 deal attendants weren't just for marketing. They were a core 1522 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:58.520 part of the services offered to ovul Loop users, making 1523 01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.680 one wonder what was actually happening on those video calls 1524 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:03.359 and was it perhaps something sexual? And it goes even deeper. 1525 01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:06.039 Than that, uh duh, look, I mean obviously by now 1526 01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:07.159 we can tell it is what do you. 1527 01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:09.279 Mean, loud enough or even the dealer tendant to take notice. 1528 01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:11.359 It's very unusual and certainly not a sound that could 1529 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.279 just accidentally happen on a typical film set, which makes 1530 01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:15.159 it all the stranger that another inexplicable noise was heard 1531 01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:16.760 in the background of a different video, and this one 1532 01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:18.239 left viewers far more distressed. 1533 01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:20.960 You want to learn to fly, shot an airplane, or 1534 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.079 to see more girls like me? Abi look can help, 1535 01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:26.239 or to see more girls like me? Abi look can help? 1536 01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:30.960 Or to see more girls like me? Abi look can help. 1537 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.399 Yeah, we've reached the point where I start calf maxon. 1538 01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:39.199 Y'all know we at that point when I'm putting the 1539 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.439 calves up with cal maxin. So y'all help me out here. 1540 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:44.479 Let's get to the did we get to the goal? 1541 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.800 We're one super shot away from the goal? Y'all? Come 1542 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:53.239 on now? Yea all got a help? Oliga help me 1543 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:53.560 out right. 1544 01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:56.800 Some believe that this is yet another sexual mom while 1545 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:59.680 others swear they can hear a specific word, the word help. 1546 01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:05.680 It's incredibly concerning, especially if this prostitution theory is true. 1547 01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:07.439 I mean, there's just so many implications to it given 1548 01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:07.720 the link. 1549 01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:09.560 Oh interesting, Okay, So I was wondering if it was 1550 01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:12.920 going to get into like a trafficking angle. Let me 1551 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.239 hear that again, because to me it didn't sound like 1552 01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:17.119 they were saying that, but also was sped up. So 1553 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:18.279 let's hear it. Let's see. 1554 01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:23.319 Especially if this prostitution theory is true, I mean, there's 1555 01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:26.079 just so many implications to it. All others swear they 1556 01:37:26.079 --> 01:37:29.640 can hear a specific word, the word help. 1557 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:38.319 Maybe it's incredibly it was, it was kind of maybe 1558 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:40.479 we'll see. It's hard to. 1559 01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:43.920 Tell concerning especially if this prostitution theory is true. I mean, 1560 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:45.760 there's just so many implications to it, given the link 1561 01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:48.600 between prostitution and human trafficking. But again, this could all 1562 01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:49.840 be part of the marketing. Maybe this was all just 1563 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:51.840 employe to get people to visit their website, roping you 1564 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:54.199 in with these sexualized, creepy, and even concerning videos that 1565 01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:56.159 almost demand that you dig deeper. Well, if this is 1566 01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:58.359 the case, then surely visiting their website would help put 1567 01:37:58.359 --> 01:37:59.039 this mystery to ben. 1568 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:05.239 Oh is this going to go to Jeff Stin mcgaffrey. Yeah, 1569 01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:07.199 so there's a whole section of the video about Jeff 1570 01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:11.159 Stime mcgirlines. Well I already knew about this. Did we 1571 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:13.920 already know this or did this guy just make a 1572 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:15.880 more in depth video? I thought we already all knew 1573 01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:17.079 this At. 1574 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:18.680 The time these videos were uploaded back in twenty eleven, 1575 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:20.359 those visiting the ovo loop website would be met with 1576 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:22.640 the rather of mackluster experience. The whole page was dull 1577 01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:24.359 and uninviting. It seem about as vaga as the video 1578 01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:26.119 is promoting it. However, they did have an about section 1579 01:38:26.159 --> 01:38:28.600 that attempted to describe the service more in depth. There 1580 01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:30.640 they mentioned that the primary goal of ovy loop was safety, 1581 01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:32.640 as they believe that making training and other aeronautic services 1582 01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:34.039 more accessible could in turn, what. 1583 01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.000 Do you mean it's all fake? It's there was a 1584 01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:42.239 whole jeff Stein Airlines saying that came out. I don't 1585 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:44.439 know if this is that, but that wasn't fake. 1586 01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:46.920 What do you mean help prevent accidents? Which strangely was 1587 01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:48.600 never even hinted at in their videos and it's never 1588 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:50.399 mentioned again on any other portion of the website. But 1589 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:51.760 it was in this about tame that they listed even 1590 01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:55.159 more services that they claimed to provide, services like navigation equipment, headsets, 1591 01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:58.159 and pilot vacations, among many other things. Basically, anything even 1592 01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:00.600 remotely related to flying they sold it, at least claim to, 1593 01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:02.359 and they consisted that they did so cheaper than anywhere 1594 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:04.359 else by using collective bargaining, a process that they would 1595 01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:06.720 go into greater detail about. Basically, Abyloop acts as a 1596 01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:09.119 third party partnering with aviation businesses to promote unique deals 1597 01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:10.600 on their sites. Each of these deals as a quote, 1598 01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:10.880 I mean. 1599 01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:14.159 The websites definitely look super frickin cheap and fake as hell. 1600 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.960 Look at that, dude? Is that there is that the 1601 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:22.199 website or like their fake ass fakebook Facebook profile, that's ridiculous. 1602 01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:23.640 That must be hit for it to actually go through. 1603 01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:25.039 So if enough people buy the deal, the quote has 1604 01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:26.640 reached and everyone gets a voutcher to do or receive 1605 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:28.239 whatever they paid for. But if the deal doesn't reach 1606 01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:29.760 its quota, then everyone is refunded and the deal is 1607 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:31.640 avoided without any cost to the users or the business. 1608 01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:33.880 Avyloup was the middleman, which could explain how they managed 1609 01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:36.359 to offer such impressive deals in such diverse services, though 1610 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:38.600 again this is just what they were saying begging the question. 1611 01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:42.079 Was anything actually being sold on pavylup dot com. Well, 1612 01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:44.399 there actually was. The deals were sorted by general locations, 1613 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:46.640 and most consisted of flying lessons, museum trips, or even 1614 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:49.640 temporary tattoos. However, there was something unusual about these lips. 1615 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.920 I mean they're selling the chicks, dude, looks like obvious. 1616 01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.359 Now what do you mean? What's y'all a. 1617 01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:02.800 Stings. 1618 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:05.159 Bizarrely, almost every deal on the site was markedez completed, 1619 01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:08.479 each having ended in nineteen sixty nine, which obviously was impossible. 1620 01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:10.279 There were only a select few deals throughout the entire 1621 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:12.439 website's history that were ever even active, and even then 1622 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:13.439 there didn't seem to be aware. 1623 01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:15.399 I must get ahead a little bit. This website part 1624 01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:16.439 is boring supposure. 1625 01:40:16.439 --> 01:40:18.039 Adding a deal attendant has the potential of making it 1626 01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:20.319 viral on social media sites. Promotions that include a video 1627 01:40:20.319 --> 01:40:22.560 tend to be extra successful. There's a lot to impact 1628 01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:24.760 here for starters. This explains how ovulop makes their money. 1629 01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:27.159 They're basically charging companies to run ads using these deal attendants, 1630 01:40:27.159 --> 01:40:28.680 and the videos on their channel are examples of what 1631 01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:30.800 these ads would look like. Though calling them professional is 1632 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:33.399 extremely generous, and I can't imagine any companies actually wanting 1633 01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:34.920 to use the service, and given that these are the 1634 01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:36.840 only videos that they shared, I don't think many, if any, 1635 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:39.439 actually did extremely sexual in nature. They were meant to 1636 01:40:39.439 --> 01:40:41.359 mimic pilot stripes and be put on your shirtless shoulders 1637 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:43.600 with a package reading when a uniform just won't do, 1638 01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:47.880 and the description hadding all sorts of innuendos appears so fake, 1639 01:40:48.359 --> 01:40:50.159 but that doesn't inherently mean that they were actually involved 1640 01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:52.680 in pornography or prostitution. I mean, despite all these innu windos, 1641 01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:54.079 there is no direct mention of the sale of sex 1642 01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:56.039 anywhere on the website from what I could see, And unfortunately, 1643 01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:57.479 much of the website is lost of time, as in 1644 01:40:57.520 --> 01:40:59.119 twenty sixteen in the site would go down, replaced by 1645 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:01.159 another random URL, making it impossible to know what this 1646 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.159 platform was actually like for those who signed up for it. 1647 01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:05.279 What were they actually being offered, what were they discussing 1648 01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:07.760 amongst themselves, and what happened on these video calls. It's 1649 01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:09.560 all unknown, as what I've shown is pretty much all 1650 01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:10.760 I was able to salvage from the way back. 1651 01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:12.720 Yeah, I mean this a merely It seems like obviously 1652 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:16.800 some sort of criminal operation running out of a front right, 1653 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:18.720 all right, let's get it to the next part. 1654 01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:21.359 It comes across like a sham website, void of any 1655 01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:24.640 notable information. With one exception, there was a single new 1656 01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:26.239 addition to the site, as at the very bottom you 1657 01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:28.039 could find a short bio not of a deal attendant, 1658 01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:31.720 but of a legitimate pilot named Nadia Marinco, the creator 1659 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:32.399 of avu Loop. 1660 01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:34.760 This is mar Senko, not Marinco. 1661 01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:36.880 Coppilation is huge, as Nadia Moreenco was a well known 1662 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:38.960 and extremely successful pilot, which makes avul Loop all the 1663 01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:40.560 more confusing, as you would think that her involvement in 1664 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:42.239 the company would help legitimize it and make could seem 1665 01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:44.039 more likely that avul Loop was a real company after all, 1666 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.119 But instead it actually did the exact opposite, so that wasn't. 1667 01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:49.199 Thus the check connected to Jeff's line. 1668 01:41:49.079 --> 01:41:51.359 Involvement plunges this mystery into a whole new depth, a 1669 01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:56.840 depth far darker than we've yet to discuss. Born in 1670 01:41:56.880 --> 01:41:59.239 Czechoslovakia in nineteen eighty six, and Nadia had dedicated her 1671 01:41:59.239 --> 01:42:01.520 younger years to model, lending multiple high profile roles in 1672 01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:03.359 her country, and by the age of just fifteen, these 1673 01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:04.880 roles led to her being moved to the United States 1674 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.119 to help continue this pudding career. But by twenty her 1675 01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:09.039 interest had shifted to a different kind of runway. She 1676 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:10.880 became obsessed with flying and had a natural talent for 1677 01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:12.960 it too, quickly rising through the ranks and gaining certifications 1678 01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:14.399 faster than most others could at that age. 1679 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:16.680 Oh that's why I recognize her face because she's on 1680 01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:19.399 the thumbnail of the video and she was tied to 1681 01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:20.720 the Jeff stain McCaffrey stone. 1682 01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:22.960 By twenty five, she was considered extremely accomplished for someone 1683 01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:24.560 so young, and her resume would soon reach a wider 1684 01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:35.399 audience when she began leveraging social media. She posted videos 1685 01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:37.800 under the alias Gulf String Girl and eventually Global Girl, 1686 01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:40.159 where she marketed herself as a supermodel turned pilot, which 1687 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:42.319 worked to the tune of millions of views. Natti Marinco 1688 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:44.039 was a star in the aviation world and on social 1689 01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:45.600 media too, and it was during the height of the 1690 01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:48.439 success that she started Avi Loop. It clearly wasn't meant 1691 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:49.359 to be something. 1692 01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:52.880 So she started it interesting and let's get over here 1693 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:54.760 to the the real meat. 1694 01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:57.399 Of the video listening and for curing miners for prostitution. 1695 01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:02.079 She was involved in trafficking women and children over to 1696 01:43:02.079 --> 01:43:03.000 Little Saint James. 1697 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.000 In case you're somehow unaware, Jeffrey Epstein is the most 1698 01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:08.359 prolific pedophile and human trafficker, maybe of all time. He 1699 01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:10.720 carried out a large scale human trafficking operation, bringing children 1700 01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:12.560 to his private islands that he and other elites exploited 1701 01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:15.319 in horrific ways. It's considered one of Epstein's victims. He 1702 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:16.880 found her through her modeling job when she was just 1703 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:18.399 a teenager, and she didn't just come to the United 1704 01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:20.279 States for work, Epstein himself brought her. 1705 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:24.279 I knew it so just like a movie, solved the 1706 01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:29.479 case within two minutes. Uh, what do you guys think? Hot? 1707 01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:31.119 Y'all were like, how do you know he already knew? 1708 01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:32.800 I didn't ean what I promise I didn't watched the yet. 1709 01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:35.520 After allegedly purchasing her from her father, what followed was 1710 01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:38.840 Nadia becoming his self described sex slave. It's a horrible 1711 01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.000 and unimaginable fate. But while Nadia appeared to have been 1712 01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:43.159 a victim of Epstein, that wasn't all she was, as 1713 01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:48.159 after becoming an adult, she also became Epstein's accomplice. When 1714 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:49.960 Epstein was first investigated by all Deny back in the 1715 01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:51.960 two thousands, many of his victims came forward and claimed 1716 01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.800 that Nadio was not only present for their use, but 1717 01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:56.600 she was a willing participant there too, satisfy Epstein's criminal 1718 01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:59.720 sexual desires by on occasion, directly participating as a US 1719 01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.800 Prussian of the minor girls. Now, Epstein was eventual given 1720 01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:04.399 a sweetheart deal for these crimes in two thousand and eight, 1721 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:06.159 which led to him serving just thirteen months in prison, 1722 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:07.399 and as part of that deal, Na he was given 1723 01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:08.800 complete immunity, meaning she never. 1724 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:12.600 I think, and she disappeared like she's probably a witness 1725 01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:13.079 production or. 1726 01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:14.960 Something, faced any sort of free perussions for her use 1727 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:16.800 of children. But despite being a free woman, by the 1728 01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:18.640 time that Epstein was thrown in jail, she stood by 1729 01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:20.399 a side living in his New York City home, waiting 1730 01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:22.600 for his release, and while he was behind bars, Nadia 1731 01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:26.720 would visit him roughly seventy times. These two were deeply connected, so. 1732 01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:29.479 She was still like running the running shit that he 1733 01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:30.760 couldn't run while he was in there. 1734 01:44:32.279 --> 01:44:35.039 Well after she was his slave, with naughty, even making 1735 01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:37.399 a scrap book for Epstein, which is just so terrifying 1736 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:38.760 that I had to at least mention it in this video. 1737 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:44.720 It would be several years later, in twenty twelve, a 1738 01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:46.600 time when Nadia had long since left Epstein's home and 1739 01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:49.199 his control, that Nadia would rejoin his operation, this time 1740 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:52.439 with a brand new role. She became one of Epstein's pilots, 1741 01:44:52.640 --> 01:44:55.000 taking victims and perpetrators alike to and from the island 1742 01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:58.399 on the plane they dubbed the Lolita Express, what happened 1743 01:44:58.399 --> 01:44:58.680 on the. 1744 01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:01.520 Later express everything, what happened on the Express and his 1745 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:03.439 other plans was the same thing that happened in his 1746 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.680 bedrooms and the massage rooms. The abuse did not stop 1747 01:45:05.720 --> 01:45:07.479 because we're in the air. Jeffy couldn't take a two 1748 01:45:07.479 --> 01:45:09.720 hour flight without having to ejaculate. Like, that's how sick 1749 01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:10.279 this man was. 1750 01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:14.560 Nadia Marinco was directly trafficking children for Epstein. And she 1751 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:16.880 was doing this in twenty twelve, mere months after she 1752 01:45:16.880 --> 01:45:18.479 started Abby Loop, which. 1753 01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:20.640 R Yeah, I knew it. I knew this was exactly 1754 01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:24.920 where I was going to go. Did we hit the 1755 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:27.760 goal yet? Yeah? Come on, now we're almost to the goal. 1756 01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:29.279 Y'all would help me get that goal or not? We're 1757 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.680 like one superjet away from the goal. I'll read a 1758 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.479 couple more super jets here. Fernando five dollars. W what 1759 01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:39.520 do you think about Liminal business church? That's already Rouselan's church, 1760 01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:45.079 it exists, Barrangos. When is Jolo church pot Loco? Yeah, 1761 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:49.319 we don't have pot lucksure Potloco Tingo ten dollars. We 1762 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:54.119 do phronsie wine in back room communion. Yes, correct, that's 1763 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:58.720 corporate fake one fallacy five dollars. That could actually be 1764 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.760 a good idea for a short film. You find a 1765 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:05.760 church in the back room. It's a burst of beauty 1766 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:09.279 in the nightmare. That would be weird. D Jewels ten dollars, 1767 01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:13.560 Jay Dizzel. Watch Under the Banner of Heaven. A Mormon 1768 01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:20.039 detective investigates an unalive Mormon woman and her child that 1769 01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:27.399 are mixed up in FDLS cult. Is that a documentary 1770 01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:32.000 or a movie? What's it called Banner of Heaven? 1771 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:49.239 Let's see. 1772 01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:51.960 Oh it's a drama mini series. Oh yeah, I heard 1773 01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:56.119 about this with Andrew Garfield. I think Jamie watched this. 1774 01:46:56.880 --> 01:46:58.680 I'm pretty sure Jamie watched it. She was saying I 1775 01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:03.399 need to watch it. Pantausand and five dollars. My first 1776 01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:06.039 super chat, My first time ever seeing your stream. This 1777 01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:12.720 is great, awesome. Guess what you got archive of You 1778 01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:17.840 got a lot of work to do, Son, You got shit? 1779 01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:22.600 What do we got now? One six hundred videos to 1780 01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:25.680 get to start working? He best to get the work, Son, 1781 01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.840 since you're new around here, but welcome, Fernando. So for 1782 01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:36.439 ten dollars. Besides Pasco, what's your favorite service Sunday or 1783 01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:43.039 Saint Gregory Palamas in Lent, he says Dormian Vesper's goat 1784 01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:48.279 minus Nativity Dormion, I like the trim of Orthodoxy too, 1785 01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:53.119 Peter White five dollars. It's quite sus that the Protestant 1786 01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:57.680 grifters know more about Islam than they do about Christianity. Ooh, 1787 01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:02.560 that's a great point, real quick, while I'm while I'm 1788 01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:05.640 on the subject, and shout out to some of my 1789 01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:11.760 friends for hitting me to this point. I didn't realize 1790 01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:14.399 if someone believed what might be going on. And now 1791 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:17.319 I think this makes perfect sense. So the question is 1792 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:21.800 what made Rouselan suddenly so fussy about all of this? Right, 1793 01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:28.520 Because Rouselan himself admits that he had a change of 1794 01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:34.359 mind in the last month, right, and that's what spurned 1795 01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:38.640 the Catechumen being pitted against the you know, Gavin Ortland 1796 01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:44.479 and Trent Horn. But what exactly caused the change in 1797 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:47.800 Ruslan's mind to be going in this direction? And I 1798 01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:51.279 think we figured it out. So it turns out that 1799 01:48:52.760 --> 01:48:56.399 every time that he's had Orthodox people on, and that 1800 01:48:56.439 --> 01:48:59.960 includes he's had me, he said Neil and Jonathan Page, 1801 01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:02.800 he said, Father Desiah, He's had Father Peter hears On. 1802 01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:06.840 He's not realized until after having all of us on, 1803 01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:13.560 that we're not an ecumenist church. Okay, I don't think 1804 01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:16.600 Rouzlan originally thought that. His thought was, how can I 1805 01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:21.159 increase my market reach. Oh, here's this whole group of orthos. 1806 01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:23.840 I'll reach out to them and then they'll be part 1807 01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:25.600 of my audience as well. So he's thinking about it 1808 01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:28.079 as we all know as a marketer. Right. Well, he 1809 01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:30.479 starts having all the orthos on, and he realizes that 1810 01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:34.760 they don't teach a humanist, lowest common denominator Christianity. They 1811 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:37.960 don't teach mere Christianity. So then he realized that, wait 1812 01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.000 a minute, their exclusivity claims are not going to work 1813 01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:45.520 with my marketing approach. But that's not all. He realized 1814 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:48.399 that when you go to the comments of the videos 1815 01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:53.359 with the Orthodox, all of the comments are how they're 1816 01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:59.479 becoming Orthodox. Let's look at these comments. It's about becoming 1817 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:03.960 This is the best line in this video. I'm being 1818 01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:07.920 baptized in Orthodox Church next month. I left Protestantism one 1819 01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:11.239 thousand and three. Inner likes Orthodox is so deep. I'm 1820 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:15.039 becoming Orthodox. I'm former Presbyterian becoming Orthodox. I'm becoming Orthodox 1821 01:50:16.119 --> 01:50:20.760 like the first fifty comments are about becoming Orthodox. I 1822 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:32.920 would say, right, I converted Orthodoxy. I love it. I 1823 01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:40.239 just became a catechumen Right. Orthodoxy has the best misunderstanding. Greetings, 1824 01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:44.479 I'm a Greek Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox Orthodox 1825 01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:53.800 Orthodox Right. Rouslan realized that the comments are not amenable 1826 01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:59.720 to what he wants. The comments are about Orthodoxy. Let's 1827 01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:17.880 see if if it's the same on Rouselm with Father Trenham. 1828 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:19.760 So if you're come into the church, you're gonna see 1829 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:27.119 hundreds of thousands. I'm a new Orthodox convert. I'm fifty 1830 01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:35.600 years old. I'm on my way to Orthodoxy out of atheism. 1831 01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:40.880 I'm becoming Orthodox. More and more people are coming to Orthodoxy. 1832 01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:47.720 These are the top comments. I was Protestant, now I'm Orthodox. 1833 01:51:56.600 --> 01:52:01.279 So I think my thesis now. And this is a 1834 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:03.720 shout out to my friends who hit me. To this point, 1835 01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:06.880 Rouselan realized all the times that he bought brought the 1836 01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:11.680 Orthodox people on, and they went against his dumb assumption 1837 01:52:11.840 --> 01:52:17.439 that we all would say, you know, an acumenist yed bro, 1838 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:19.079 we all got to just get along, dude, it's all 1839 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:22.520 the same church. He realized, Oh, they don't believe that 1840 01:52:23.119 --> 01:52:25.279 and even their top dudes that I bring on don't 1841 01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:29.840 believe that, and they don't support my marketing goals. That 1842 01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:33.479 is why he has now decided that all the Orthos 1843 01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:38.279 are actually bad. I've also been told from some inside 1844 01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:43.920 sources that these Goobers are all coordinating. They have either 1845 01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:47.560 telegram or discord groups, and all the Goobers are working 1846 01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:51.960 together now to fight the Orthodox. Now wait a minute. 1847 01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:56.079 If you are an Acumenist and a Lowest Common Denominator believer, 1848 01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:00.680 then you have to believe that Orthodoxy is also part 1849 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:04.560 of the Lowest Common Denominator church, right, Because they're saying 1850 01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:07.359 you can go to the Messianic Synagogue, right, Well, if 1851 01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:11.560 the Messianic Synagogue counts in their lcdview, obviously Orthodoxy counts. 1852 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:17.039 So even if Orthodoxy is exclusivist, it shouldn't matter to them, right. 1853 01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:21.600 But then we start to realize the fact that it 1854 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:25.560 does matter to them shows that they are actually exclusivists themselves. 1855 01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:34.720 So we have figured we have solved the mystery. Rouselan 1856 01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:39.800 realizes that the comments are all pro Orthodox, So that's 1857 01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:42.840 why he had to switch away from having Orthodox people 1858 01:53:42.880 --> 01:53:49.359 come on to Christian TMZ. Literally his whole channel is 1859 01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:55.079 Christian TMZ. Rousselan quit having Orthodox people on. Did you 1860 01:53:55.119 --> 01:54:00.600 notice that after who is al? I don't know who 1861 01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:06.520 The last one was. It was either me or maybe 1862 01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:09.239 I don't know. No, it wasn't Pagoe. And by the way, 1863 01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:13.680 I don't count the This dude is Orthodox, right, So 1864 01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:17.880 Rouselan is still presenting the Orientals as if they're Orthodox, 1865 01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:23.760 and they're not, so I don't count that dude. Instead, 1866 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:27.600 what he's done is his fake panel of Orthodox versus. 1867 01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:31.640 Notice this. Remember it wasn't a debate, according to Ruslan, 1868 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:36.199 and now he's got it tagged as versus, so we believe. 1869 01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:38.520 I thought it wasn't a debate though, but now it's 1870 01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:44.199 Klok versus Orthodox versus Protestant. That's adversarial language Rusalan. So 1871 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:48.399 notice this actually shows that the truth is out and 1872 01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:51.479 Rouselan actually was lying it was a debate because now 1873 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:56.000 he's got the adversarial language up Catholic versus Orthodox versus Protestant. 1874 01:54:56.039 --> 01:55:00.159 So he intentionally put a categ cumin up. Everybody's said, 1875 01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:03.600 why are you putting catechumens against seasoned debaters. He said, 1876 01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:05.720 it wasn't a debate. It wasn't debate. It wasn't adversarial 1877 01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:11.239 relationship versus is adversarial, dummy, And originally it said debate 1878 01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:14.439 and he blamed it on his employees. Remember that. So again, 1879 01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:16.800 Ruslan is just a total liar and he's a total 1880 01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:22.399 marketing grifter to be fair, or Rusland just had an 1881 01:55:22.439 --> 01:55:26.199 Orthodox priest on. No, that dude is not an Orthodox priest. 1882 01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:30.920 You're talking about this deacon. This deacon is an Oriental. 1883 01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:35.399 He's a schismatic and Rouslan intentionally is putting the Orientals 1884 01:55:35.399 --> 01:55:38.399 on because he thinks he's so Dummi thinks that because 1885 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.560 there's people who claim to be Orthodox, that that's a 1886 01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:44.800 proof against Orthodoxy's exclusivity. This is how it's low tier. 1887 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:48.279 He is. That dude is not Orthodox. That's the schismatic 1888 01:55:48.319 --> 01:55:56.800 deacon that confronted Philip Nectel knucklehead or whatever. Otherwise, I mean, 1889 01:55:56.920 --> 01:56:04.319 Rouslan is basically a Christian. It's just like drama. So 1890 01:56:04.359 --> 01:56:09.960 he had Neil and Pajoe on two years ago. He's 1891 01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:14.199 still doing these, by the way, watch our uh we 1892 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:17.119 clip this. We clipped this, by the way into a 1893 01:56:17.279 --> 01:56:21.840 full sort of documentary two hour documentary thing documenting his 1894 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:25.319 lives and bull crap. So here is the Downfall of 1895 01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:29.199 rouslan video if you want the full clipped version of it. 1896 01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:32.159 But yeah, that's what's going on. So now we know 1897 01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:38.439 the mysteries of Ruslan Peter No Cameron, ten dollars rousselin 1898 01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:40.920 thinking about how much church plants he could set up 1899 01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:43.920 in the back rooms? How do I monetize these backrooms? 1900 01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:49.319 By the way, here's the full avy loop video. Did 1901 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:51.600 I need to watch anything anything else in the video 1902 01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:54.119 or did I get basically the I knew within like 1903 01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:56.399 a minute, dude, I knew that's what it was. I'm 1904 01:56:56.399 --> 01:57:00.640 a good detective, dude. Come on, now, I'm the movie detective. Bro. 1905 01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:12.920 Have they made an actual good back rooms video game? Yet? 1906 01:57:14.479 --> 01:57:17.119 That seems like it would be interesting. I know there's 1907 01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:18.880 a bunch of I saw a bunch of like ten 1908 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:22.640 dollars ones on PlayStation five shop, but they look crappy. 1909 01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:25.560 So is there any of them that are actually good? 1910 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:40.439 I don't know. I like how this one's like the 1911 01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:44.119 portal to the back rooms like in Stranger Things, right, 1912 01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:47.399 and you go in there and it's the first contact, 1913 01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:57.119 And what's up with everybody ripping them off? To like everybody? 1914 01:57:57.159 --> 01:57:59.479 Just I mean, you can do your own versions of it, obviously, 1915 01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:01.560 but like there's like a million different channels that did 1916 01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:05.920 the exact same thing that he did. The pool rooms. 1917 01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:08.439 I saw the pool rooms? Is that actually fun? I mean, 1918 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:11.960 don't you just run around? You don't really it's cool? Okay, 1919 01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:14.680 I'll check out that one. I almost played that one. 1920 01:58:14.680 --> 01:58:15.880 I don't know if it was any good or not. 1921 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:21.840 So you're saying Ruseline, Yeah, I think heres was the 1922 01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:50.279 most recent orthodox person Rousalin had on Ooh, what's creeping 1923 01:58:50.319 --> 01:58:50.560 me out? 1924 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:51.039 Dude? 1925 01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:57.439 Teen good says or fight Hours. Do anyone remember Marble Hornets? 1926 01:58:57.439 --> 01:58:59.960 That's the slender Man series? Yeah, I remember slender Man. 1927 01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:04.760 Ethan Goff Fight Dollars. I bought esther Hollywood, But I 1928 01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:10.159 have a problem. I don't know how to read it's 1929 01:59:10.159 --> 01:59:13.239 I'm the cat fight dollars. Mirror's edge is a liminal aesthetics. Okay, 1930 01:59:13.279 --> 01:59:16.520 I've heard of that Casper Gas fight dollars. I'm a 1931 01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.039 Nick Crowley fan. I watched his video on Obviuolupe. I 1932 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:20.359 was going to say, you need to watch it. He 1933 01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:23.039 has several videos on liminal spaces. I didn't know that 1934 01:59:24.199 --> 01:59:28.239 well thing had already closed out the video. What does 1935 01:59:28.279 --> 01:59:53.520 he say about that? Dang, he's got a bunch of videos. Alright, 1936 01:59:53.560 --> 02:00:03.039 let's see, did y'all like my philosophical uh breakdown? Oh? Okay, 1937 02:00:03.039 --> 02:00:04.840 he does have a bunch hair. Let's say what he says. 1938 02:00:06.520 --> 02:00:10.239 Our world truly is a terrifying place. And I don't 1939 02:00:10.279 --> 02:00:12.319 think there's ever been a more relevant time in this 1940 02:00:12.399 --> 02:00:15.399 channel's history to make a statement like that. But one 1941 02:00:15.399 --> 02:00:16.920 of the things that has always scared me the most 1942 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:19.560 about this world is when it glitches. That plain looks 1943 02:00:19.560 --> 02:00:21.800 like it's just what happens when you glitch out of 1944 02:00:21.800 --> 02:00:24.239 reality completely. Well, if this happens to you, you may 1945 02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:26.439 find yourself in a place where no man should ever go, 1946 02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:29.720 a never ending prison of rooms that exists outside our world. 1947 02:00:29.880 --> 02:00:31.680 That's now your new home. And if it sounds scary, 1948 02:00:31.920 --> 02:00:34.279 maybe you'll take comfort in knowing that at least you 1949 02:00:34.319 --> 02:00:39.760 won't be alone. To four chan, that caught the attention 1950 02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:41.760 of many, the picture was of what we now know 1951 02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:45.119 as the back rooms. Something about it, the emptiness, the 1952 02:00:45.199 --> 02:00:48.199 tone just gave people bad vibes and summed up the 1953 02:00:48.199 --> 02:00:51.720 photo was incredibly unsettling. Along with a photo, a caption 1954 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:52.479 was added. 1955 02:00:52.680 --> 02:00:55.359 Isn't it crazy that just this one photo created this whole, 1956 02:00:56.600 --> 02:01:00.840 this whole lore, and now it's like hundreds of millions 1957 02:01:00.880 --> 02:01:02.760 of views and it's going to be a motion picture. 1958 02:01:02.800 --> 02:01:06.760 I mean, it's just crazy that this this random image 1959 02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:07.560 here caught on. 1960 02:01:08.079 --> 02:01:09.399 Just give people bad vibes. 1961 02:01:09.560 --> 02:01:11.000 By the way, I took a really I'm not saying 1962 02:01:11.039 --> 02:01:13.239 I was. I'm not trying to do that, like I 1963 02:01:13.319 --> 02:01:16.119 was doing this wed before anyone else. I took a 1964 02:01:16.119 --> 02:01:20.640 really cool liminal space image a long time ago on 1965 02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:22.640 my Instagram. I'll have to try to try to find it, 1966 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:25.399 try to find it, dig it up. It's pretty crazy. 1967 02:01:25.479 --> 02:01:29.920 It was. I was driving to Texas in like twenty 1968 02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:35.239 seventeen and there was this really really creepy looking abandoned 1969 02:01:35.960 --> 02:01:39.439 factory and I pulled over and took a picture of it. 1970 02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:41.039 It looks really neat, I'll say, if I can dig 1971 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:41.760 it up for you guys. 1972 02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:44.359 Was added that claimed that the back rooms go on 1973 02:01:44.439 --> 02:01:47.039 for an impossible distance in every room looks the same. 1974 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:48.640 It has said that there are a few ways to 1975 02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:50.760 wind up trapped in these back rooms. Some say that 1976 02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:53.000 they can be accessed through your dreams or even seeing 1977 02:01:53.079 --> 02:01:54.119 envisions because of it. 1978 02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:56.680 Well, that's by the way, why the back rooms would 1979 02:01:56.720 --> 02:02:00.800 be associated with or connected to the collective unconscious, right, 1980 02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:03.600 Because when you're dreaming, you're going into your inner world, 1981 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:06.760 your inner framework, which is I think actually kind of 1982 02:02:07.159 --> 02:02:11.359 structured like a house, or structured like some kind of world. 1983 02:02:12.279 --> 02:02:15.319 And I've had a theory about that for a long time. 1984 02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:18.520 But and the reason I think that is because a 1985 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:21.880 lot of my dreams, especially when they're recurring dreams, there's 1986 02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:27.000 like areas and places that you can return to and 1987 02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:30.960 then explore new areas past those areas, right, kind of 1988 02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:33.920 like in an open world video game when the map's 1989 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:35.600 gray and then you go into the new area and 1990 02:02:35.600 --> 02:02:38.920 you've discovered new areas. My dreams are that way. So 1991 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:45.399 I think that there's probably something to the inner world 1992 02:02:46.000 --> 02:02:50.000 actually structured that way, and that's why it resonates with 1993 02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:52.199 what people see in the back rooms. 1994 02:02:52.119 --> 02:02:54.439 This Many claim to recognize the picture and even felt 1995 02:02:54.520 --> 02:02:57.399 some sort of nostalgic fear when seeing it, but others 1996 02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:59.359 claim that the only true way to get there is 1997 02:02:59.439 --> 02:03:02.119 much more difficult, and it requires a tremendous amount of luck, 1998 02:03:02.399 --> 02:03:05.720 or perhaps, in this case, the exact opposite. It's theorized 1999 02:03:05.760 --> 02:03:08.079 that every object we interact with in this world is 2000 02:03:08.119 --> 02:03:10.520 clipped to our reality. So for example, when you bump 2001 02:03:10.560 --> 02:03:12.439 into a wall, you collide with it and you bounce 2002 02:03:12.479 --> 02:03:14.520 off of it. But going back to glitches and our reality, 2003 02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:17.039 it is said that on occasion, objects within our world 2004 02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:19.000 will no clip. This is something that happens often in 2005 02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:21.439 video games where part of the map becomes no clipped 2006 02:03:21.479 --> 02:03:23.119 and you bump into it, you go right through it, 2007 02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:25.439 and you sometimes end up falling right off the map. 2008 02:03:25.880 --> 02:03:28.439 There your player is stuck still inside the game, but 2009 02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:31.880 in an endless void beneath the map. In the real world, 2010 02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:33.840 people believe that some objects can become no coals. 2011 02:03:34.039 --> 02:03:36.000 By the way, when you're playing a game, it sucks 2012 02:03:36.039 --> 02:03:38.359 like it's awful when that happens because you always have 2013 02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:39.640 to turn it off. You can never get out of 2014 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:43.159 that shit obviously, which is what makes it shitty, right. 2015 02:03:43.159 --> 02:03:50.039 But check out as Liminal Lands with nextpo Was this 2016 02:03:50.119 --> 02:03:53.760 the one the video you're talking about? No, it's not. 2017 02:03:53.840 --> 02:03:56.079 It's a different video. Okay, I'll find that one. Next. 2018 02:03:56.920 --> 02:03:59.199 Parker thoughts on Kadriannau. I don't know much about that. 2019 02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:00.960 I haven't read much about it. I still haven't gotten 2020 02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:02.960 into it, so I don't know Eugene ten dollars, Shae 2021 02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:06.960 Dyer or Hancholo. I'm curious what you know about Ai 2022 02:04:07.119 --> 02:04:12.840 Kodak and the end of Metal Gear Solid. It prophesied 2023 02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:15.520 the rise of a digital censorship in this area. I've 2024 02:04:15.560 --> 02:04:18.560 heard people saying for years that Metal Gear Solid was 2025 02:04:18.640 --> 02:04:22.039 very prophetic. I only played part of the first one 2026 02:04:22.319 --> 02:04:25.079 because my body that passed away. He was a big 2027 02:04:25.119 --> 02:04:28.319 fan of it, and I played it with him a 2028 02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:31.119 little bit, and I just never got into it beyond 2029 02:04:31.159 --> 02:04:33.520 that game. Tiger Green Tiger twenty dollars. I got your 2030 02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:35.840 book in the mail. I'm so excited. Do you think 2031 02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:38.119 that the new war movies that come out, like Michael 2032 02:04:38.159 --> 02:04:40.600 Bay's new movie and the New World War two movie 2033 02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:42.960 or predicted programming, they could be I mean a lot 2034 02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:46.960 of movies are I didn't I don't know what Michael 2035 02:04:46.960 --> 02:04:48.920 Bay's new movie is or what the New World War 2036 02:04:48.920 --> 02:04:53.640 two movie is. I will say though, that the new 2037 02:04:53.680 --> 02:04:56.880 Resident Evil looks very fascinating. This will be the first 2038 02:04:56.880 --> 02:05:01.600 time that perhaps the critics are going to like a 2039 02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:03.880 Resident Evil movie. I mean, I'm a fan, just kind 2040 02:05:03.880 --> 02:05:06.159 of a guilty pleasure. I like all the Resident Evil movies, 2041 02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:12.000 but the new one is uh, the whitest kid, you know, 2042 02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:16.920 guy that did weapons is doing it, and it actually 2043 02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:23.439 looks like it's going to be like it might actually 2044 02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:28.760 be a critically acclaimed horror movie. It looks it looks 2045 02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:31.520 pretty good. I'd to say, the Zach Gregor guy. So 2046 02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:38.119 I am looking forward to the new Resident Evil. All right, 2047 02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:41.479 I gotta get these super chests going here because I'm 2048 02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:45.560 starting to melt down and get mush minded. Josiah Mandy 2049 02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:48.840 is the best Nick Cage film? Oh? Good? Question? Is 2050 02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:57.920 that the best Nick Cage Maybe probably some subjectivity is 2051 02:05:57.960 --> 02:06:04.279 going to come into that one, because it's hard to say, 2052 02:06:04.880 --> 02:06:08.960 but it's definitely up there. It's definitely up there. I 2053 02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:10.720 mean Bringing Out the Dead is pretty good too, though, 2054 02:06:11.520 --> 02:06:15.000 But then so is Bad Lieutenant. I mean, he's got 2055 02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:18.439 a lot of bangers. Man, he's he's he's really good. 2056 02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:23.399 Storm of the Cat. The multiplayer maps in Halo Combat 2057 02:06:23.479 --> 02:06:27.079 Evolved are liminal interesting. I haven't played Halo in like 2058 02:06:27.119 --> 02:06:30.399 fifteen years. Dude Ethan two dollars Room fourteen oh eight, Yeah, 2059 02:06:30.399 --> 02:06:33.600 that could be constant Dootal two dollars. Possessor was good. 2060 02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:36.640 It was all right, I was I was expecting more 2061 02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:44.279 Cara five dollars. The most liminal space movie is Stalker. Ooh, 2062 02:06:44.760 --> 02:06:50.000 good point. Now, for whatever reason, I have to brag 2063 02:06:50.399 --> 02:06:54.520 because it didn't get promoted in the algorithm. But we've 2064 02:06:54.640 --> 02:07:00.720 done podcasts with Andre Tarkowski's son, so I've on Stalker 2065 02:07:01.079 --> 02:07:07.199 at a in depth level and everybody forgets this and 2066 02:07:07.279 --> 02:07:11.159 nobody watched it when it should be like of freaking 2067 02:07:11.239 --> 02:07:14.720 zillion views, and we only got thirteen thousand views. So 2068 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:18.600 here's me with father Vladimir. We do an entire two 2069 02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:26.399 hour mini documentary almost with Andre Tarkowski Junior on Stalker. Hello, 2070 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:28.560 this should have like a million views. It's got thirteen 2071 02:07:28.600 --> 02:07:32.319 thousand views. But thank you for reminding me. Yes, that 2072 02:07:32.479 --> 02:07:44.359 is definitely a liminal space horror. Great point. Tar Plants, 2073 02:07:44.720 --> 02:07:49.680 tar Plantiffs. The Tank is an interesting movie. It's a 2074 02:07:50.079 --> 02:07:53.159 mix of back room stuff with World War two interesting. 2075 02:07:53.319 --> 02:07:58.039 The Tank, Brizztol Fight dollars. Jack Murphy is the The 2076 02:07:58.079 --> 02:08:01.479 Liminal Order was my favorite horror show, not a missaut 2077 02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:04.840 Agent ten dollars, JB five dollars. In the same vein. 2078 02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:09.279 Is anyone watching Destiny's Schizo arc You might have covered it. 2079 02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:12.319 It's funny I did mention that a few months ago. 2080 02:08:12.399 --> 02:08:15.079 Is he still on that schizo arc? I don't keep 2081 02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:17.800 up with destiny canonical ten dollars. The counter is broken. 2082 02:08:18.279 --> 02:08:24.560 We actually broke your goal. Eight chats ago. Uh cool? Well, 2083 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:27.319 actually I like the idea of a broken counter because 2084 02:08:27.319 --> 02:08:33.199 then you guys, you guys just keep doing it, y'all, 2085 02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:42.520 just could give it some chat spot y'all. That's wild, bro. Yeah, 2086 02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:47.199 you bring out the wig and me ten good five 2087 02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:49.520 dollars is the goldbug? I don't know. Maybe I need 2088 02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:51.119 to refresh on my end. Let me see what happens 2089 02:08:51.119 --> 02:08:59.680 if I refresh it. I wonder if the goal has 2090 02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:03.439 to do with does that actually have to be a 2091 02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:05.680 twenty dollars like if you do nineteen ninety nine, does 2092 02:09:05.720 --> 02:09:07.600 it not count towards the goal? I don't actually know. 2093 02:09:08.079 --> 02:09:17.079 Maybe that's it. Armann luigo Armani, luigo Armani, lugo five dollars. 2094 02:09:17.159 --> 02:09:19.399 I'm new to your channel. This is my tribute. I 2095 02:09:19.479 --> 02:09:22.600 heard you were an emperor. You heard correctly. Thank you, 2096 02:09:22.680 --> 02:09:26.239 welcome broccoli since for twelve dollars. This is my tribute 2097 02:09:26.239 --> 02:09:30.560 to the emperor. Reque'm ten dollars, peepee cock. I love 2098 02:09:30.600 --> 02:09:33.199 you bro appreciate that it's hot tier and I love it. 2099 02:09:34.520 --> 02:09:39.000 See Willias five dollars. I would like to nominate riff 2100 02:09:39.079 --> 02:09:43.239 Raff to the Wiga Senate. He's already a potentate dog. 2101 02:09:44.119 --> 02:09:46.760 I was wondering if he was okay. If so, then 2102 02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:48.800 I feel like we could be okay with Phil Oakway 2103 02:09:49.239 --> 02:09:53.279 exactly math five dollars, fin five dollars. Somehow. I'm sure 2104 02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:56.319 somebody in the Middle East is behind all this or 2105 02:09:56.640 --> 02:10:02.439 twenty dollars mountain wallfie dollars Gaeliens. Are they allowed in Xantem? 2106 02:10:02.520 --> 02:10:05.239 Hell no? You think we want to let them bought 2107 02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:08.560 pyrates and hell no thought of a pilgrim five dollars. 2108 02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:12.880 Good luck on the coming big interview. Thank you good 2109 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:17.039 this weekend, big one coming this weekend. Y y'all helping 2110 02:10:17.079 --> 02:10:24.479 me pay for it right now? Nick Dick Wiener Ruslan 2111 02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:27.319 is running the Goober industrial Complex. He part of that 2112 02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:32.359 gic Son Jon five dollars. If all these grifters converted 2113 02:10:32.439 --> 02:10:34.520 Orthodoxy and they came out, would you be worried that 2114 02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:36.399 they were infiltrating? Yeah? I think what would have to 2115 02:10:36.439 --> 02:10:41.239 happen is just like with like certain sins and proclivities 2116 02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:46.520 like it would prevent you from immediately monetizing. I'm serious, right, 2117 02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:50.960 that would be the norm. Tingu twenty dollars. I'm sure 2118 02:10:50.960 --> 02:10:53.279 that you will never sink one hundred hours into any 2119 02:10:53.279 --> 02:10:56.880 anime or anime video game. But Persona deals with collective 2120 02:10:56.920 --> 02:11:00.720 unconscious called mementos. Yeah, it's on my list of games 2121 02:11:00.760 --> 02:11:03.720 to try. I'll definitely try it. I don't know if 2122 02:11:03.760 --> 02:11:08.399 I'll stick it out, but yeah, I'm familiar. Sean Patrick 2123 02:11:08.439 --> 02:11:12.039 five dollars. We are the Dreamers of Dreams. Name that movie. 2124 02:11:14.199 --> 02:11:17.119 It sounds familiar. I'm just tired. I'm forgetting because it's 2125 02:11:17.239 --> 02:11:21.479 late into the evenings. Wigan Nationalism five dollars from the 2126 02:11:21.479 --> 02:11:27.039 Wigsantium Nation, Baby straight up, x Lockx to ten dollars. 2127 02:11:27.039 --> 02:11:29.840 There's something off putting about the aesthetic of the seventies 2128 02:11:29.960 --> 02:11:31.720 all the way into the nineties. I don't know all 2129 02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:35.640 the way into the nineties, but I mean, I think 2130 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:41.800 seventies aesthetics is pretty gross. Eighties is gaudy and wacky, 2131 02:11:41.840 --> 02:11:43.479 but I like it because I grew up with it. 2132 02:11:44.279 --> 02:11:47.800 Nineties is weird and all over the place, but I 2133 02:11:47.800 --> 02:11:49.800 also kind of like it. And there's a huge diversity 2134 02:11:49.880 --> 02:11:55.359 between early nineties and late nineties. There's moisture in the air, 2135 02:11:55.560 --> 02:11:58.479 there's emptiness. It's hard to explain. Thank you for this dream. 2136 02:11:58.680 --> 02:12:00.840 Thank you. I love these culture streams where we go 2137 02:12:00.840 --> 02:12:05.479 off in the different directions. Katino five dollars, Ashtar Sharn 2138 02:12:06.039 --> 02:12:09.960 credit be upon Him is the Cracker angel whose light 2139 02:12:10.239 --> 02:12:14.920 spoke ex Cathedral from the Galactic Federation. But is this false? 2140 02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:18.359 In Wigxantium it sounds like it would be Parker five dollars. 2141 02:12:18.439 --> 02:12:22.079 Toys with Robin Williams is not horror, but it's very limital. Yes, 2142 02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:24.439 it's also trippy and it seems like mk ultra And 2143 02:12:24.479 --> 02:12:27.399 we've been meaning to go back to toys for a 2144 02:12:27.439 --> 02:12:33.720 long time because I I don't know if I've ever 2145 02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:37.920 even seen the whole the whole film. It's freaking do 2146 02:12:38.239 --> 02:12:40.319 what how much acid were they doing when they made 2147 02:12:40.319 --> 02:12:54.600 that movie? Look at this trippy ship they watched this, Yo, Dude, 2148 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:58.640 that's trippy as hell. Bro. For real, man, who put 2149 02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:02.319 acid in my my alps? Yo, Tucker, don't put a 2150 02:13:02.359 --> 02:13:07.640 bunch of LSD in my alves. Yo, dude, that's trippy 2151 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:13.840 as hell. Bro. We gotta do this movie for you 2152 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:15.680 want to know what LSD is like. That's like those 2153 02:13:15.760 --> 02:13:22.920 right here? Did this is what it's like? Is it 2154 02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:25.279 like Willie Walker? I don't even know what it's about. 2155 02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:33.560 It definitely seems like mk ultra based though, Is that 2156 02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:46.760 Robin Wright John Cusack? Yeah, this would be weird to 2157 02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:48.960 watch now. I bet you one hundred. This is some 2158 02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:55.600 straight up LSD in kultup mind control see Williams Fight Dollars, 2159 02:13:55.680 --> 02:13:59.520 liminal space, mind space my mental Machinist Donny Darko. To 2160 02:13:59.560 --> 02:14:03.000 a degree, I'm like the one person that doesn't like Memento. 2161 02:14:03.720 --> 02:14:05.880 I know, I've heard a million times that I need 2162 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:08.359 to like it, and I've given it like three chances. 2163 02:14:08.439 --> 02:14:10.399 I just don't like it. I don't like it. I mean, 2164 02:14:10.439 --> 02:14:13.000 it's not a bad movie, it's just not I don't 2165 02:14:13.039 --> 02:14:18.560 find it fun. Machinist is hard to watch. I love 2166 02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:21.880 Donnie Darko. Tingu fifty dollars just because I love you. 2167 02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.640 Jay Safe Travels. Thank you Tingou much. Appreciate you guys 2168 02:14:24.640 --> 02:14:28.039 are being very generous. Jay Long five dollars. Anime is cool. 2169 02:14:28.119 --> 02:14:30.880 I'm not an anime hater. I'm just also not super 2170 02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:34.560 into anime. I've always been kind of neutral on anime like, 2171 02:14:34.560 --> 02:14:40.039 it doesn't really bother me. A lot of dudes are 2172 02:14:40.359 --> 02:14:42.920 weird that are into it, but it also doesn't bother me. 2173 02:14:43.560 --> 02:14:48.760 But see, I grew up only with Ghosts in the Shell, 2174 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:55.399 which I like, Miohyazaki movies. I liked all those, but 2175 02:14:55.439 --> 02:14:57.319 I've never gotten into the other ones. I just keep 2176 02:14:57.319 --> 02:15:01.840 forgetting to do it. I know, Neon Genesis, Evangelium, I know, 2177 02:15:01.920 --> 02:15:03.720 I know. I've got like a list of all the 2178 02:15:03.760 --> 02:15:06.600 ones that all the bros have told me for many years. 2179 02:15:06.680 --> 02:15:11.000 I will do it, I promise eventually. Straight white mail 2180 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:13.239 fight dollars. I wish JP would debate. He's getting cooked 2181 02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:18.520 by everybody. He is dumb. Now apparently he wants to debate. 2182 02:15:19.560 --> 02:15:22.359 I'm skeptical that this will actually happen, but I'm told 2183 02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:25.279 through third parties that he wants to do a public 2184 02:15:25.319 --> 02:15:28.720 formal debate. Okay, we'll see. I'll believe it when it happens. 2185 02:15:29.760 --> 02:15:34.439 Pepper PROPHETI dollars, You're analysis is worthy, King of xanti 2186 02:15:34.479 --> 02:15:37.119 if thank you dog. Y'all starting to y'all starting to 2187 02:15:37.199 --> 02:15:42.920 see y'all starting to believe believe that, As my friend 2188 02:15:42.920 --> 02:15:45.520 who passed away said, you better believe. 2189 02:15:45.279 --> 02:15:49.920 That from reality, a wall will appear darker than the 2190 02:15:49.960 --> 02:15:51.840 others around it, or you'll find a door that you're 2191 02:15:51.840 --> 02:15:54.000 certain there should be nothing on the other side. If 2192 02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:55.920 you have a keen eye, you can notice these things 2193 02:15:56.079 --> 02:15:57.399 and avoid them at all costs. 2194 02:15:58.079 --> 02:16:02.159 I dare say this might be the best back rooms analysis. 2195 02:16:02.279 --> 02:16:05.399 I'm not hating on Nick Crowley. He's doing good stuff. 2196 02:16:05.600 --> 02:16:09.039 I've seen some about three videos I like now from 2197 02:16:09.119 --> 02:16:11.039 Nick Crowley. I'm not hating on it, but I mean 2198 02:16:11.520 --> 02:16:13.439 this stuff is sort of a more of a pop 2199 02:16:13.479 --> 02:16:17.000 audience stuff, and we just went like super deep, dude, 2200 02:16:17.000 --> 02:16:21.159 we went deeper than the other philosophy brod that just 2201 02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:23.560 did a big great he did a great analysis. I 2202 02:16:23.560 --> 02:16:26.399 mean that is analysis was what inspired this analysis. But 2203 02:16:26.439 --> 02:16:28.159 I was like, dude, I could take this analysis to 2204 02:16:28.199 --> 02:16:30.680 another level. I think we did. 2205 02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:33.040 That nothing of the implications that are soon to come. 2206 02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:35.399 And much like a character in a video game, if 2207 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:37.920 you interact with a non clipped object, you fall off 2208 02:16:37.959 --> 02:16:40.360 a map, and one could imagine that it's incredibly confusing 2209 02:16:40.479 --> 02:16:41.799 and terrifying to go from there. 2210 02:16:41.879 --> 02:16:45.840 You're noticing how everybody is explaining reality now. According to 2211 02:16:45.959 --> 02:16:49.079 video games Gamification right, that was one of the key 2212 02:16:49.079 --> 02:16:50.799 points in my analysis. 2213 02:16:50.159 --> 02:16:52.920 Existing in one world to instantly being dropped into another 2214 02:16:53.120 --> 02:16:55.440 with nothing but millions of square miles of empty rooms 2215 02:16:55.479 --> 02:16:57.639 on either side of you. But this is your reality now, 2216 02:16:57.719 --> 02:16:59.920 and it's where your journey into the back rooms begins. 2217 02:17:04.319 --> 02:17:06.639 Well, it's interesting that there was originally, I don't know 2218 02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:09.280 if it's still the case positive to be three levels 2219 02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:12.000 of the back room because an ancient Greek mythology, reality 2220 02:17:12.079 --> 02:17:13.879 was three tiered like that. Right, you had the underworld, 2221 02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:15.360 you had this world, and you have the world the gods. 2222 02:17:15.440 --> 02:17:16.040 That's interesting. 2223 02:17:17.239 --> 02:17:20.159 Level zero is a maze of monotone yellow rooms, each 2224 02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:22.879 looking the same as the last, with only the slightest 2225 02:17:22.879 --> 02:17:25.399 of variations. The carpet that covers a level is moist 2226 02:17:25.559 --> 02:17:28.040 and creates a persisting scent. In the beginning, the only 2227 02:17:28.079 --> 02:17:30.399 sounds that can be heard is the consistent loud buzzing 2228 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:33.840 of the old fluorescent lights. As you walk through the rooms, 2229 02:17:33.879 --> 02:17:36.000 you'll start to realize how big the area actually is. 2230 02:17:36.520 --> 02:17:38.760 Every room just leads to another and another. You start 2231 02:17:38.799 --> 02:17:41.000 to wonder how big of an area could this actually be, 2232 02:17:41.319 --> 02:17:43.479 and how could this even be possible. Many will start 2233 02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:45.399 to run and sprint through the rooms, thinking that this 2234 02:17:45.479 --> 02:17:47.520 might get them out of this maze faster, but it's 2235 02:17:47.559 --> 02:17:49.920 no use, and after running around for seemingly an eternity, 2236 02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:52.079 you'll finally realize that you're likely going to be stuck 2237 02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:52.840 in here for a while. 2238 02:17:53.399 --> 02:17:56.799 That's what I'm saying. It's like the Theseus story, right, 2239 02:17:57.680 --> 02:18:01.200 because in the Theseus story, the labyrinth constantly changes and 2240 02:18:01.239 --> 02:18:02.719 you can never get out of it. So it's kind 2241 02:18:02.760 --> 02:18:04.680 of like a hell story, right. And then he the 2242 02:18:05.079 --> 02:18:07.360 minotaur is the beast or the sort of satan of 2243 02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:08.280 the labyrinth. 2244 02:18:08.159 --> 02:18:10.479 This first level, and that's for a few reasons. Either 2245 02:18:10.479 --> 02:18:13.120 they lose the will to carry on, or they encounter 2246 02:18:13.239 --> 02:18:16.159 something while walking through these rooms. You may find yourself 2247 02:18:16.239 --> 02:18:19.840 encountering humanoid creatures after walking for hours and maybe even days. 2248 02:18:20.040 --> 02:18:22.479 Just imagine the horror of turning the corner and seeing 2249 02:18:22.520 --> 02:18:26.399 something standing there, something that isn't human. These creatures are 2250 02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:29.200 known as houmas, and he looked like disfigured humans who 2251 02:18:29.200 --> 02:18:31.520 walk on all fours. They make a little rumbling noise. 2252 02:18:32.159 --> 02:18:35.040 So the backrooms are just hell. This is just corporate hell. 2253 02:18:35.079 --> 02:18:39.520 Basically forty crush five dollars. The Nordic alien seated life 2254 02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:45.040 in northern European they taught yakub before they left, exactly, Son, 2255 02:18:45.879 --> 02:18:49.159 that's one of the you know, in wee Xantium, we 2256 02:18:49.200 --> 02:18:52.680 would say that that is an acceptable form of comparative religion. 2257 02:18:53.719 --> 02:18:57.959 Ortho cards Wiga, please chat us as for five dollars, Jay, 2258 02:18:58.079 --> 02:18:59.600 I was actually having one of the worst days I've 2259 02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:02.840 ever had in my life. Dang do it. I'm sorry, bro. 2260 02:19:02.959 --> 02:19:06.200 Everybody pray for Chetta. However, you don't know how much 2261 02:19:06.239 --> 02:19:10.120 I appreciate your live streams. That's awesome. Man. People think 2262 02:19:10.159 --> 02:19:13.040 I'm mean. I would rather just climb around. I'd rather 2263 02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:23.040 just joke around with you guys. I'm being serious. Squirrel 2264 02:19:23.040 --> 02:19:26.319 two dollars two New Mormon space Wive song is modest Mouse. 2265 02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:32.120 Yeah we do that one. Ooh you fancy Ruie since 2266 02:19:32.120 --> 02:19:37.639 twenty dollars. Thank you so much, Rui. Nicksey gives five memberships. 2267 02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:41.200 Appreciate that. Nixxy Scott too hot, Toddy ten dollars, j 2268 02:19:42.360 --> 02:19:44.399 Oh the link for the Holy Ray Baun song. It's 2269 02:19:44.440 --> 02:19:48.200 on Ax. I'll put it up on YouTube. Mc romax 2270 02:19:48.280 --> 02:19:53.479 gifted ten memberships. What's up Dog, DJ mc romax, biscuit Head, 2271 02:19:53.959 --> 02:19:59.959 and no, we did that. Josh is for five dollars. 2272 02:20:00.040 --> 02:20:03.239 Have you ever considered that the view of unconditional election 2273 02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:07.600 predestination might be why Protestants don't need, don't care about 2274 02:20:07.600 --> 02:20:10.680 false teaching. It could contributes to that, absolutely, especially if 2275 02:20:10.680 --> 02:20:13.719 they're Calvinists, right, I mean a lot of Protestants are 2276 02:20:13.760 --> 02:20:17.239 not very few Protestants are actually five point Calvinists in 2277 02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:19.959 the total. But for the ones that are, that's probably 2278 02:20:20.000 --> 02:20:21.840 why they don't. They don't. But I don't. I mean, 2279 02:20:21.920 --> 02:20:24.840 Ruslan's not a Calvinist. I don't think he has any 2280 02:20:24.840 --> 02:20:28.600 of those types of views. DM five hundred RSDs? What's up? 2281 02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:28.680 Do? 2282 02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:33.639 Thank you? Romax ten dollars? You heard the man? We 2283 02:20:33.719 --> 02:20:39.319 all want spurgy tag questions? You joking, dude? You joke it, dude, DM, 2284 02:20:39.879 --> 02:20:43.319 since two hundred and fifty RSDs? What the health currency 2285 02:20:43.399 --> 02:20:51.000 is an RSD? Forget Branch theory, you got Brockley theory. Yo, 2286 02:20:51.520 --> 02:20:56.079 y'all still cook it? Kaiser says Jay, you got to 2287 02:20:56.120 --> 02:21:01.559 see the ode to Yakub? What is that? Is that? 2288 02:21:01.639 --> 02:21:04.879 A song that sounds awesome? We'll see if we can 2289 02:21:04.879 --> 02:21:08.360 find that. I'm liking Nick Crowley's videos though he's he's 2290 02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:13.239 impressing me. He's got good stuff here, Oh to yakoub 2291 02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:25.879 let's see. Oh shit, do look at this? Rall? Oh 2292 02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:33.040 macas all right, this looks fun. I'll give it to 2293 02:21:33.079 --> 02:21:34.319 you guys in the chat, but I don't want to 2294 02:21:34.399 --> 02:21:39.959 ding the copyright. This is a fire stream, son. I 2295 02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:41.280 think we might get a lot of views on this 2296 02:21:41.360 --> 02:21:44.600 because of the back rooms, so I don't want to. 2297 02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:49.319 I don't want to mess up the algo if I 2298 02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:54.159 play copyright music. Yeah, get out of here. You are here. 2299 02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:56.840 You haters in the Chat are henceforth banished from the 2300 02:21:56.920 --> 02:22:05.280 Kingdom and Empire of Waxantium. So did it be mc romex, 2301 02:22:05.360 --> 02:22:07.879 says Jay hitting blue Steel tonight. Oh y'all want a 2302 02:22:07.879 --> 02:22:09.520 little bit of that I forgot? I keep forgetting. I 2303 02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:21.559 got the diva camp. Let's hold up, y'all want a 2304 02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:25.520 little bit of that? You got it? Dude, my key. 2305 02:22:25.719 --> 02:22:28.440 Five dollars isn't twin peaks all back room ship, Yes, 2306 02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:31.399 we said earlier David David Lynch is sort of the 2307 02:22:32.840 --> 02:22:39.559 og of liminal space backgrounds for sure. Deep siss or 2308 02:22:39.600 --> 02:22:44.600 five dollars Indian doctor but formerly leather to dollar spit 2309 02:22:44.719 --> 02:22:47.799 some new fresh bars. I mean, I could do, but 2310 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:50.159 it's the end. Of the night Man. You got to 2311 02:22:50.200 --> 02:22:52.239 ask me that at the beginning of the stream, bro 2312 02:22:52.840 --> 02:22:54.760 even though you actually did, because that was an old 2313 02:22:54.799 --> 02:22:56.920 super chat. But I'll try to I'll try to do 2314 02:22:56.959 --> 02:22:59.239 some new Crench course soon, y'all. I'm just kind of 2315 02:22:59.239 --> 02:23:02.440 tired right now. I need a new song for my 2316 02:23:02.520 --> 02:23:06.559 watch ringtone, Voice of Reason song, y'all getting tired of 2317 02:23:06.559 --> 02:23:11.639 that one? I recommend them of you Obsession. It's one 2318 02:23:11.639 --> 02:23:17.799 of the best horrorfleix in the last ten years. Obsession. 2319 02:23:19.399 --> 02:23:24.840 That sounds familiar. Oh, this is the new one. I 2320 02:23:24.879 --> 02:23:29.520 want to see this. This one actually does look good. Yes, 2321 02:23:30.319 --> 02:23:32.079 is it out? Can you watch this now? Is it 2322 02:23:32.079 --> 02:23:34.799 in the in the theaters or what? Yeah? Thank you? 2323 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:36.840 I do want to do this, and yeah, it will 2324 02:23:36.840 --> 02:23:39.200 probably be worth analysis. They look good enough for analysis 2325 02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:42.559 for sure. Alter boyd ten dollars. I remember Beta max 2326 02:23:42.639 --> 02:23:45.200 versus VHS fights when I was a kid. Yeah, we 2327 02:23:45.360 --> 02:23:47.399 used to when I was in California. We would. My 2328 02:23:47.479 --> 02:23:49.159 dad was kind of a cheapo, so he would still 2329 02:23:49.239 --> 02:23:58.680 rent Beta maxis because they were cheaper. TINGO says. You know, 2330 02:23:58.760 --> 02:24:01.120 we all starting to get ruse fatigue. Yeah, aren't you 2331 02:24:01.159 --> 02:24:05.120 sick of his broccoli hair and you know that dude's 2332 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:09.120 breath steaks too, Like I feel like I've watched so much, 2333 02:24:09.200 --> 02:24:11.360 seen so much Rouselan face. I feel like the breath 2334 02:24:11.399 --> 02:24:13.680 is coming through the screen. I'm starting to smell his 2335 02:24:13.680 --> 02:24:17.000 his stink ass breath. I'm tired of Rouselan too. I'm 2336 02:24:17.000 --> 02:24:20.760 glad you all just feeling it. Jacob says, for five dollars, 2337 02:24:20.799 --> 02:24:23.600 I'm orthodoxical of you, Bron. I just want to reminisce 2338 02:24:23.680 --> 02:24:27.280 that one time you had to give Derek Mythvision a spanking. 2339 02:24:27.600 --> 02:24:31.360 I was in that live chat. He gets like fifty 2340 02:24:31.680 --> 02:24:34.840 viewers nowadays on his live stream. Thank you for destroying him. 2341 02:24:35.319 --> 02:24:39.319 His content was actually stealing my face, making me naustic. Uh. 2342 02:24:41.120 --> 02:24:43.200 Remember he said his channel was going to take over, 2343 02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:45.120 he was gonna he was the future, and he was 2344 02:24:45.159 --> 02:24:47.000 going to be like five hundred k, gonna be a 2345 02:24:47.040 --> 02:24:50.479 million in no time. And uh, and you're saying it's 2346 02:24:50.479 --> 02:24:58.479 fifty fifty people in his live stream, Armo slug five dollars. 2347 02:24:58.520 --> 02:25:01.799 What do you think about the Armenian apple Stock Church. Uh, well, 2348 02:25:02.399 --> 02:25:04.559 unfortunately they're in schism, so they do have a lot 2349 02:25:04.600 --> 02:25:09.159 of things in common with us, but they're also in schism, 2350 02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:12.479 so Great Scots for five dollars. Father Peter was on 2351 02:25:12.639 --> 02:25:16.319 with David Wood. He did really, really well good. I 2352 02:25:16.360 --> 02:25:18.719 hear though that the whole chat was just like they're 2353 02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:20.959 just pearl clutch They don't even care about theology, dude. 2354 02:25:20.959 --> 02:25:22.920 That's what I'm trying to say, Like we're over here 2355 02:25:22.920 --> 02:25:25.879 trying to do these high tier theology arguments and they're 2356 02:25:25.920 --> 02:25:31.200 just pearl clutching about renting a Greek Orthodox fellowship hall 2357 02:25:32.200 --> 02:25:35.559 Yo yo char for baptism. That's all they have. They 2358 02:25:35.559 --> 02:25:41.079 don't even care. JD. Five dollars. I'm curious if you 2359 02:25:41.200 --> 02:25:45.440 think that there's any esoteric thoughts dreams in Christianity that 2360 02:25:45.600 --> 02:25:50.120 do not cross into the gnostic heresy. Well, I mean polemism. 2361 02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:56.079 Is that so? Look up Hesekia and Palmus acts five dollars. 2362 02:25:56.360 --> 02:25:59.959 Do you know the Henry Nowak story Novak story? I don't. 2363 02:26:00.920 --> 02:26:03.639 Is that probably something to do with like Islam and 2364 02:26:04.920 --> 02:26:15.639 dystopia and Islam and Islam and the UK Henry Nowak 2365 02:26:17.600 --> 02:26:21.000 abstract back rooms, nah Son, I'm trying to talk about 2366 02:26:21.000 --> 02:26:26.840 a black room. We ain't ready to have this conversation yet. Yeah. 2367 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:30.680 I like the way you think. Jason Casselton ours. I 2368 02:26:30.719 --> 02:26:32.799 haven't watched it a long time, But would you say 2369 02:26:32.879 --> 02:26:35.159 Aeronovsky's Pie is a liminal space movie? 2370 02:26:35.200 --> 02:26:35.399 Eh? 2371 02:26:35.840 --> 02:26:38.319 No, I wouldn't say so. I mean it was definitely creepy. 2372 02:26:39.799 --> 02:26:42.840 Uh And dude just goes dude, Pie was predicting all 2373 02:26:42.840 --> 02:26:49.000 of these Gomatria tards. Pie is the exact exemplification of 2374 02:26:49.040 --> 02:26:55.959 the Gomatria tards on the internet. Dude, I thought we 2375 02:26:55.959 --> 02:26:59.360 was gonna have an easy fun stream. We might make 2376 02:26:59.360 --> 02:27:01.479 a you know, a couple hundred dollars were almost out 2377 02:27:01.520 --> 02:27:03.440 a thousand dollars tonight, y'all, Thank you so much. Y'all 2378 02:27:03.479 --> 02:27:08.280 been super generous. All right, where was we at? Let's 2379 02:27:08.280 --> 02:27:13.559 see back rooms By the end of the night, the 2380 02:27:13.639 --> 02:27:19.399 scrolling thing does not work. Well, maybe that's the end 2381 02:27:19.399 --> 02:27:26.120 of the super chests there, Jake Croat says, for twenty 2382 02:27:26.159 --> 02:27:29.399 five dollars. For twenty five dollars, can you riff cringe 2383 02:27:29.440 --> 02:27:33.680 cord to Sharday. Oh dude, let me try to make 2384 02:27:33.719 --> 02:27:36.559 a note of that and do it on the next stream. 2385 02:27:36.959 --> 02:27:38.399 I'm way too tired to. 2386 02:27:42.719 --> 02:27:42.760 Do. 2387 02:27:42.879 --> 02:27:44.840 We been in the back rooms for two hours. Man, 2388 02:27:45.040 --> 02:27:49.200 the back rooms will suck your soul. Dr rift to Charday. 2389 02:27:51.760 --> 02:27:54.319 What do you want me to wrap about for twenty 2390 02:27:54.920 --> 02:28:03.799 just anything? Don't say rudes line ruslan, dude, I'm we 2391 02:28:03.920 --> 02:28:08.680 got rusele on fatigue around here, man, car russ up 2392 02:28:08.719 --> 02:28:11.479 for three dollars, ay s, could you do a paranormal 2393 02:28:11.520 --> 02:28:16.440 streamful on slap ham glops or whatever. Yes, it's been 2394 02:28:16.479 --> 02:28:19.319 a while since we did a spooky stream. We've done 2395 02:28:19.360 --> 02:28:22.000 about three or four and they're a blast. So yeah, 2396 02:28:22.000 --> 02:28:25.760 we need to do more of that for sure, for show. 2397 02:28:26.399 --> 02:28:29.879 For show, I'll make a note to do another spooky stream. Dude, 2398 02:28:29.920 --> 02:28:32.280 wells this one count of as I put a spooky stream, 2399 02:28:33.680 --> 02:28:35.719 like I said, it was in the backgrounds for two hours. 2400 02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:42.600 That was spooky as hell. Spooky stream right here. Y'all 2401 02:28:42.639 --> 02:28:45.639 want spooky streams, listen. If y'all request spooky streams, you 2402 02:28:45.639 --> 02:28:47.600 gotta come do it, though, you got y'all gotta be here. 2403 02:28:48.280 --> 02:28:50.200 I don't want to do a spooky stream for five 2404 02:28:50.280 --> 02:28:53.600 hundred people. Y'all got to come show up. J money 2405 02:28:53.600 --> 02:28:56.319 five dollars? Are you gonna switch to a PC? Jim 2406 02:28:56.319 --> 02:28:59.520 Bob says you're boomer. I can't do it. I'm too boomer. 2407 02:28:59.520 --> 02:29:04.120 I'm sorry. You should get FDA and a walkie talkie, 2408 02:29:04.959 --> 02:29:08.360 I would actually be ironic and with hipster, I'll go 2409 02:29:08.399 --> 02:29:10.760 full hipster and do an interview on a walkie talkie. 2410 02:29:10.799 --> 02:29:14.280 That actually sounds pretty cool. I could trip out my 2411 02:29:14.319 --> 02:29:16.680 guests that I'm interviewing my big guests this weekend. What 2412 02:29:16.719 --> 02:29:18.280 if I What if I tripped her out and I 2413 02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:20.440 was like, now we're doing this interview via a walkie talkie. 2414 02:29:20.479 --> 02:29:24.360 She'd be like, what yo. She'd be like, make sense 2415 02:29:24.399 --> 02:29:25.920 of that. I'm like, there ain't no sense to it. 2416 02:29:26.319 --> 02:29:30.799 That's why we're doing it. You in the back rooms, guys, remember, 2417 02:29:30.840 --> 02:29:32.719 got to show a sponsor, which is chalk dot com 2418 02:29:32.719 --> 02:29:34.440 c h o q dot com best solentation on the net. 2419 02:29:34.479 --> 02:29:36.319 Head over to chalk dot com c h o q 2420 02:29:36.559 --> 02:29:41.239 dot com. Use the promo code J fifty J sixty 2421 02:29:41.280 --> 02:29:43.399 life J Y six zero L A f E. He 2422 02:29:43.479 --> 02:29:46.319 is sixty percent off all those great products, including the 2423 02:29:46.440 --> 02:29:52.079 Male Vitality sat Rider. Y'all don't remember the previous Spooky streams. 2424 02:29:52.479 --> 02:29:54.639 I know, slow boy whitebird does. She was here for 2425 02:29:54.680 --> 02:29:57.280 all that. She loved it. She was she was loving it, dude, 2426 02:29:58.280 --> 02:30:02.559 Spooky Streams. Let's see what we called it. I think 2427 02:30:02.559 --> 02:30:08.639 it was called that. Let's see. No, it's not that 2428 02:30:08.719 --> 02:30:14.000 one here it is. Look at that dude ghost glitch matrix. 2429 02:30:14.040 --> 02:30:16.840 Look at that. We was scaring y'all. Too many of 2430 02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:26.040 y'all got scared when we did the stream, right, So 2431 02:30:26.159 --> 02:30:28.399 if you get bored after this and you need more 2432 02:30:28.399 --> 02:30:32.040 of it, here's a whole other spooky stream. We did 2433 02:30:32.959 --> 02:30:37.239 scary ghost glitch in the major cryptids UFOs. We did 2434 02:30:37.239 --> 02:30:40.520 it all sun right here. The only thing in this 2435 02:30:40.600 --> 02:30:45.520 genre that I absolutely hate. I love spooky videos. I 2436 02:30:45.600 --> 02:30:50.159 hate when they go into abandoned buildings and walk around 2437 02:30:50.239 --> 02:30:53.920 with their go pro cameras and wait until somebody farts 2438 02:30:53.959 --> 02:30:56.319 and then they claim it's a ghost. I mean, I 2439 02:30:56.360 --> 02:30:59.239 hate those videos so much. I will never watch. I 2440 02:30:59.280 --> 02:31:02.520 hate those will not watch Ghost Team videos. They're the stupidest, 2441 02:31:02.559 --> 02:31:08.159 most boring of all. Dude Cody's Seva codis live five 2442 02:31:08.200 --> 02:31:12.280 dollars bump up for the spooky streams, all right, y'all 2443 02:31:12.319 --> 02:31:15.959 send him money. You want spooky streams, okay, Benjamin five dollars. 2444 02:31:16.040 --> 02:31:19.559 Steve Gregg said on a Facebook group he would debate you. 2445 02:31:19.600 --> 02:31:26.920 I don't know who the hell Steve greg is. Look 2446 02:31:27.000 --> 02:31:31.120 here's the rules, y'all. If you got a small channel 2447 02:31:33.319 --> 02:31:36.920 you call in. I don't do a formal debate with 2448 02:31:37.040 --> 02:31:41.479 anybody with five hundred subs or one thousand subs, ten 2449 02:31:41.520 --> 02:31:46.200 thousand subs. You don't get a formal debate. I'm trying 2450 02:31:46.200 --> 02:31:54.079 to monetize these people. That's a joke. Malayas hereta korum. 2451 02:31:54.120 --> 02:31:58.120 Five dollars. I expose Ryan from need God. He's got 2452 02:31:58.159 --> 02:32:00.760 a script. I don't am not surprised. Go check out 2453 02:32:00.760 --> 02:32:03.799 the link on my post. That is h O H. 2454 02:32:03.920 --> 02:32:07.440 Malayis heretic korum? He says, he follows the script. Dude, 2455 02:32:07.479 --> 02:32:11.280 I bet you he's just repeating AI inny so is 2456 02:32:11.360 --> 02:32:13.959 Ryan is need God just repeating AI? I bet he is. 2457 02:32:14.000 --> 02:32:20.760 Do that dude is solo tier Gavin Ortlinzon for three dollars. 2458 02:32:20.760 --> 02:32:23.079 I'm sending us because that wigger Rouosland starts punching the 2459 02:32:23.120 --> 02:32:28.079 air because he knows his ops are stacking paper. Yo, dude, 2460 02:32:28.079 --> 02:32:31.200 we about to make rude lot so man right now, dude, dude, 2461 02:32:31.200 --> 02:32:33.680 he's dude, I do about to turn red. Bro He 2462 02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:36.760 about to be a rib piece of broccoli dog a 2463 02:32:36.840 --> 02:32:40.840 cook broccoli son. Thank you guys so much. We're gonna 2464 02:32:40.879 --> 02:32:44.280 do a spooky stream x Lockstep says for two dollars, 2465 02:32:44.639 --> 02:32:48.959 I like shoes, I like money. Banana up the butt 2466 02:32:49.000 --> 02:32:52.760 says for twenty dollars. Did you read Michael Hudson's book 2467 02:32:52.840 --> 02:32:59.479 Super Imperialism? No, but I did read Eric Wahlberg's Postmodern Imperialism. 2468 02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:02.479 But let me write that down to get it. This 2469 02:33:02.600 --> 02:33:09.159 dude's always coming with them but recommendations. You would enjoy 2470 02:33:09.239 --> 02:33:11.959 his point of view critique of US imperialism through finance. 2471 02:33:12.120 --> 02:33:14.479 It gets into the gold standard ending I am from 2472 02:33:14.520 --> 02:33:17.840 world banking. That sounds perfect, Michael, super Imperialism, Michael Hudson. 2473 02:33:28.399 --> 02:33:30.239 We listened to our audience around here. A lot of 2474 02:33:30.280 --> 02:33:32.479 these a lot of these streamers don't even listen to 2475 02:33:32.479 --> 02:33:38.280 the audience. Marie hey Man, twenty dollars, Spring Bankers. That's 2476 02:33:38.319 --> 02:33:41.239 wigger liminal space. Damn Son, it is. I don't even 2477 02:33:41.239 --> 02:33:44.159 think about that. And listen to me and trust and 2478 02:33:44.200 --> 02:33:48.559 we did that. You got your boy Tristan over here 2479 02:33:48.559 --> 02:33:52.239 retiring from the internet. Meanwhile, this is when he could 2480 02:33:52.239 --> 02:33:54.559 come shine. This is his moment to shine, and he's 2481 02:33:54.600 --> 02:33:59.559 retiring from the internet. Uh, but yeah, we have fun 2482 02:34:00.120 --> 02:34:14.280 in that one, spring Breakers. This was old school too. 2483 02:34:14.280 --> 02:34:17.879 Look This is Jay and Tristana Candy when I was 2484 02:34:17.920 --> 02:34:24.319 looking weird and puffy from carbs dude, before Tristan convinced 2485 02:34:24.360 --> 02:34:28.399 me of his diet cult. Yo, y'all check that out. 2486 02:34:28.440 --> 02:34:32.760 We there, Benjamin five dollars. Look up Steve Greg He 2487 02:34:32.840 --> 02:34:34.760 in a slouch. I didn't say he was a slouch. 2488 02:34:34.840 --> 02:34:39.639 I said, does he have one hundred subscribers? He's debated 2489 02:34:39.719 --> 02:34:47.399 James White, Aiken and Staples. I don't know, we'll see. 2490 02:34:47.719 --> 02:34:50.600 I've already planned out like ten debates, dude, well not ten, 2491 02:34:51.000 --> 02:34:55.799 like five, but I'm willing to bet that some of 2492 02:34:55.840 --> 02:34:59.920 those people won't show up. JP at Dog five dollars. 2493 02:35:00.239 --> 02:35:02.239 Jay ordered your book. I'm eager to get into it. 2494 02:35:02.479 --> 02:35:04.200 How long does it usually take? Well, if you order 2495 02:35:04.239 --> 02:35:05.799 the Red Book, they're supposed to be here in the 2496 02:35:05.840 --> 02:35:08.440 next few days, so that's probably what you're waiting on. 2497 02:35:12.040 --> 02:35:16.399 All right, Thank you guys so much. Y'all been a 2498 02:35:16.399 --> 02:35:19.600 lot of fun tonight. Josha's for two dollars. This is 2499 02:35:19.639 --> 02:35:23.239 a win back room stream. Do you have a patron saint? Yes, Daniel, 2500 02:35:23.399 --> 02:35:29.120 Prophet Daniel is my patron saint. I love these kinds 2501 02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:33.520 of streams. I can't do this theology nerd shit every night, 2502 02:35:33.719 --> 02:35:38.840 isn't crazy? Jay Long Finals, do you think Don young 2503 02:35:38.879 --> 02:35:42.799 Don is kind of slow because he got his thing chopped? Well, 2504 02:35:42.879 --> 02:35:47.200 I don't know if he's He seems impressionable because they 2505 02:35:47.280 --> 02:35:51.719 easily convinced him, so he seems at least very impressionable. 2506 02:35:52.239 --> 02:35:54.440 But I don't know young Don, so I can't say 2507 02:35:56.040 --> 02:36:00.000 what all's going on other than like if you're convinced 2508 02:36:00.079 --> 02:36:03.319 and people to get circumcised. I mean, they don't know 2509 02:36:03.360 --> 02:36:05.879 nothing about the New Testament, like they haven't read the 2510 02:36:05.879 --> 02:36:09.520 Book of i exe Galatians, Hebrews. I mean, guys, thank 2511 02:36:09.559 --> 02:36:11.000 you so much. If you would hit like a share, 2512 02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:13.440 tell me uh more. Back rooms