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<v Speaker 1>Going on and how chaotic things have been and just

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<v Speaker 1>recently looking off the hills of like Johnny Depp and

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<v Speaker 1>Amber Herd case, and like a lot of men being

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<v Speaker 1>falsely accused of things and not really having a platform

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<v Speaker 1>or really even a voice. Like when something's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any way to retract it without with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even if we have facts, sometimes they don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe our facts. And I feel like I was really

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<v Speaker 1>intrigued by your story. I feel like, you know, us,

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<v Speaker 1>being in the mainstream world, we always hear all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>but not all of them are ever true. So I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely am happy that you are here to finally speak

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<v Speaker 1>your truth because I feel like there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that, you know, when you've brought your truth

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<v Speaker 1>to them, have tried to still shut you up and

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<v Speaker 1>like not let you tell your story. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's time for you to tell your story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, it's been it's been a hard road.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that because of the Johnny Depp trial and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that people are maybe a little more open

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that someone could possibly just lie male

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<v Speaker 2>or female, could possibly just lie one the other person

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<v Speaker 2>and really turned being a victim into being the I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the aggressor, well, not the aggressor, but like more

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<v Speaker 2>of a you know, the person that's victimizing, well, the villain.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. There's always like a villain

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<v Speaker 1>in every story. I feel like, you know, it's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I thought it was important too. Is like

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<v Speaker 1>me being a female, me being in you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>adult entertainment industry and now being a media outlet myself

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, that's always there's been me two things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all these things where you know, you know, women

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<v Speaker 1>are always side with women and you know, me myself

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<v Speaker 1>is I've been in situations that haven't always been the

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<v Speaker 1>best relationship wise. So I feel like I'm a devil's

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<v Speaker 1>advocate where I like to hear the story from all

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<v Speaker 1>points and I feel like, yeah, you're welcome, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>but yees. So it's one of those things where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like, because you get labeled as myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I say labeled, you know, I don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>here to judge. I'm not here to you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. And so I feel like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect time to kind of speak about a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>What's been going on for years now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, listen, how do you want.

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<v Speaker 1>To jump into it? I like, I like how I

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<v Speaker 1>threw you off at the adult entertainer was saying because

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<v Speaker 1>one of those your accusations was that you owned a

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<v Speaker 1>porn company. I've never was employed by you ever in life,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've never seen you before today.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that is that's interesting. You knew that one of

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<v Speaker 2>the accusations. Let me let me go through some of

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<v Speaker 2>the accusations maybe, like maybe I get to start there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was never charged, So my accusations were I was

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<v Speaker 2>a sex trafficker.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's let's rewind dis a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 1>I for everybody for private talk out there is you

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<v Speaker 1>were in a very high profile relationship and accusations and things.

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<v Speaker 1>When things went south, all these accusations were being made

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<v Speaker 1>and these are some of the accusations that were made.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I well, first of all, I was I was

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<v Speaker 2>completely blindsided by it. You know, we had a normal

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<v Speaker 2>what I would say normal. I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 2>a normal proceedings for divorce, but we were talking normal,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no issues, and then out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, given the lawyers that Melanie had gotten. They

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<v Speaker 2>I think they told her, listen, we know how to

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<v Speaker 2>clab her this guy and put him on his ass

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll get what you want. And that was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, her getting all the financial in all of

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<v Speaker 2>our money. And also she went a full custody of

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<v Speaker 2>our daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are all things like so you you were

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<v Speaker 1>how long were you in relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Married? About ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>So married for ten years? You married for ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it come to the point where you

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<v Speaker 1>realized that this wasn't working for either one of you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you needed to have these conversations now, like what

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to do? It's not just like we're

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<v Speaker 1>like some Joe Schmoe you know couple. We have assets,

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<v Speaker 1>we have you know, children, we have all these things

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<v Speaker 1>in bed. How does that come up in an amical,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, situation where you guys both already in other relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just know that it just wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>work and it was for the best interest? How does

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<v Speaker 1>that start that conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was just I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up. I think that it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mel had you know, a drug problem and an alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>problem and her drug and alcohol problem. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a weird scenario because you know, she would just

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<v Speaker 2>get wasted all the time, and everyone around her would.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, oh my god, she's okay, Like you know, these.

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<v Speaker 1>Are known facts that she's had a drug and alcohol problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were inquired about it. Yeah, yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 2>in quoted about it. I mean I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>videos of Melanie do and cocaine around the kids, me

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<v Speaker 2>yelling at her, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know her and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Never partacked in any of these incidences. Like as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I partying.

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<v Speaker 3>I never, No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you know, we're couples, you know, so one may

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<v Speaker 1>do something but may not through the other.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I have ten thousand email emails to the therapist,

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<v Speaker 2>to her, to you know, just videos of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>never once is it mentioned that I ever do drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>I did all my drugs when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were just over the situation. You try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. Ten years didn't work, you know, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't going anywhere. So then literally just but I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that we could do it peacefully.

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<v Speaker 1>We had peaceful comers also starry to interrupt you. But

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<v Speaker 1>you so being in a marriage like that, where are

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<v Speaker 1>you automatically intertwined with business like were you part of

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<v Speaker 1>like a business manager to her? Is that? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's other allegations. Was you controlled all her money?

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that she did? She had to ask? You know

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. Now, anybody you know that has money

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<v Speaker 1>and in these industries there is a business manager or

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<v Speaker 1>those things that are allotted to those things sometimes. So

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<v Speaker 1>did it automatically take on that role?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how did I wasn't the business manager? Mike Solbelman

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<v Speaker 2>and alex You were?

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<v Speaker 1>She controlled the finances.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we had.

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<v Speaker 2>Joint bank accounts, so we joint bank accounts. But alex You,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had a we had a I guess a

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<v Speaker 2>system in play. So the system goes like this, A

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<v Speaker 2>bill comes in and then alex You gets an approval

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<v Speaker 2>from me and from my ex wife, so he got

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<v Speaker 2>approvals from both of us. If there was any big bills,

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<v Speaker 2>any small bills like paying someone on a credit card,

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<v Speaker 2>is of no, you know, there wasn't a system in place,

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<v Speaker 2>But any big purchases or any bills being paid out,

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<v Speaker 2>everything got paid through Alex you, all of.

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<v Speaker 1>That's common, what do you mean common for relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>who have big money like this where it's like, i.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, listen, what she alleged was I controlled the money,

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<v Speaker 2>but when it got.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Is like, why I'm even starting

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<v Speaker 1>any of this was just because some of us out

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<v Speaker 1>there don't know what that means to have people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we make her own money, We make our own bills

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<v Speaker 1>with do our things. So yeah, setting the picture of

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is once you're in a high profile situation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as easy as like, hey, I'm taking my money,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking yours. There's a lot more into so, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than you know. And that's why I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>is why I'm leading this picture is because if it

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<v Speaker 1>was so easy to say what she's saying, then the

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<v Speaker 1>documents that you have would show otherwise. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean well of course, so I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta understand. So Alex you and Alex Alex You

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Soberlman and everyone that were at the the

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<v Speaker 2>accounting firm pretty much said that I didn't touch money.

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<v Speaker 2>I purposely never touch money. I mean I'm in business

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<v Speaker 2>stuff right now, with clients and stuff. I never touch money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my It's just something I learned a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>When you don't touch the money, you don't never have

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<v Speaker 2>to explain where the money went. So I never touched

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<v Speaker 2>the money. Everything got paid through you know, Alex you

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<v Speaker 2>She had her own credit cards, which we have tons

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<v Speaker 2>of records on. I think the problem was is that

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<v Speaker 2>Melanie let me slow down. Melanie was able to say anything. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of moving parts in this relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and Melanie was able to say anything without any type

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<v Speaker 2>of recourse or like no one even second guessed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Melanie would say, Stephan controlled all of our money.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephan left and made me broken by the way. Just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm saying this on a public platform, so

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm lying about something, I'm liable to get sued

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<v Speaker 2>for libel all this stuff. So you know, Melanie said

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<v Speaker 2>that I took all the money. Well, in the forensic evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>Melanie emptied all of the bank accounts, Melanie had her

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<v Speaker 2>own credit card. Melanie said that, you know, approved all

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<v Speaker 2>of the different things, but the whole thing never went

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<v Speaker 2>to court from any of the allegations of sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 2>or me having a gun, or me beating her, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything is because like a couple of days before court,

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<v Speaker 2>she dismissed everything. People don't understand that Melanie Brown had

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<v Speaker 2>the utmost control. Think of this, I'm a horrible person.

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<v Speaker 2>I beat her, I control her finances. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she has a big platform that everybody has all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these supporters already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so she has all this, but she's she has

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<v Speaker 2>the upper hand at this point. My name is mud.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm completely pretty much like homeless. She has all these

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<v Speaker 2>supporters and anything that she says, it's pretty much God,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get to see my daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>So she has that in control too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she decides, I'm going to dismiss all of

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<v Speaker 2>the allegations. We're talking about one hundred and fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>allegations of rape. I'm talking sex trafficking, I'm talking pornography,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about impregnating a nanny. I'm talking about so

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<v Speaker 2>many things. And at the last second she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to dismiss them. Now. When she dismissed all these allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>I got three years of alimony one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars each, so she had to pay for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to see my daughter, which was most important.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to see my daughter immediately. I got probably

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent custody at that given moment. So why would

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<v Speaker 2>Melanie dismiss all the allegations. There's only one reason. The

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<v Speaker 2>part of the deal was no one got to see

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<v Speaker 2>the videos of her abusiveness, her craziness, her drug use,

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<v Speaker 2>her you know Melanie put out there. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just you don't have to it's mind blowing. Melanie

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<v Speaker 2>put out this huge thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That I forced her into threesomes.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the main videos that Melanie was like, oops,

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<v Speaker 2>forgot Stephan had that one was me having sex with

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<v Speaker 2>a person and Melanie sitting at a desk, fully dressed,

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<v Speaker 2>telling me what to do and how to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>turning the camera around on her own face, going I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking like it. So it wasn't necessarily the picture she

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<v Speaker 2>was painting for everyone. And also on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>all the evidence would have come out that Melanie didn't

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<v Speaker 2>leave the house dead broke and with five dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>her pocket, she emptied all the bank accounts she was

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<v Speaker 2>living in a twenty or thirty thousand dollars a month

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<v Speaker 2>placed in Beverly Crest off of mhalland Eddie Murphy gives

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<v Speaker 2>her twenty thousand dollars a month for child support. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know so and we weren't together. She was away

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<v Speaker 2>from me for months, so obviously she was making money.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know a lot of things that Melanie didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to come out. But now because it was so

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<v Speaker 2>easy for Melanie has went to all of these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shame on Harvey Levin, shame on every one of these

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<v Speaker 2>people that allowed her to just say something. Carp Blanche.

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<v Speaker 2>They reported everything and at the very end they just

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want no follow up. So she got to

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<v Speaker 2>say everything, and then I got to be uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>villainized as like the worst abusive, bad part is like, who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is accountable for that communility? Well, no, I mean as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like well as far as she should be

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for saying lies that if there were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>allegations of certain things. And I feel like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>issue that the world I feel like it's having is

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<v Speaker 1>like all these people are coming out and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who to believe, and now it's like but not now, No,

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<v Speaker 1>like with the giant depth thing is there is facts,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's still like there was a trial about

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<v Speaker 1>basically their whole relationship from text messages to this whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that proved the truth, and even then there was still

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<v Speaker 1>people that had to not believe one side or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I feel like it sucks, is because

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<v Speaker 1>relationships should be private, but unfortunately they're not. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we have mainstream things involved, and then it's like why

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<v Speaker 1>put all this extra stuff? Is like why keep you

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<v Speaker 1>from your daughter? Why you know, was it because she

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<v Speaker 1>was upset and she was you know, scorn or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>Why lie?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter lives with me like eighty percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, So do you think do you have a conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind of why she made all these allegations

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<v Speaker 1>up that have no truth? That you have court documents

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<v Speaker 1>that are proven that everything that she said was not

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<v Speaker 1>valid and she dismissed it herself and not even just

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<v Speaker 1>a court.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, here's here's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very simple. Everyone's always looking for that answer, like

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<v Speaker 2>what did you do to make her mad?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what happened with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Melanie got thrust into something and what happened was her

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers came to her and said, listen, the guy Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Crackman or whatever his name is. And then there's another woman,

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<v Speaker 2>I forget what they call her, Susan Biglip, Susan there's

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<v Speaker 2>a nickname for They would say Susan big lip, whiners,

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<v Speaker 2>Susan winers, I don't know, but they were her lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>and they literally came to her and said, listen, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a plan. I used to be a federal prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Larry worked with the Feds or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have a way to bring hell fire on this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not going to know what hit him.

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<v Speaker 2>And Melanie and her brain started believing the worst thing

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<v Speaker 2>you can ever believe in a divorce is I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>win this divorce because lawyers win, No one else wins.

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<v Speaker 2>The children suffer, everyone suffers. So she went along with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and when it happened, it became so easy, and she went,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, the feds just raided his house looking

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<v Speaker 2>for on live TV on TMZ, raided my house looking

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<v Speaker 2>for like a gun, looking for sex trafficking, looking for

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, and she.

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<v Speaker 3>Went, this is kind of easy. You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>He also beat me. He also raped me. He also

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<v Speaker 2>did this. He also did that. And the problem was

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of California, there's a non litigation law,

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<v Speaker 2>so Melanie is able to say this stuff through the

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<v Speaker 2>courts without any recour I can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She could say, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything, you know what I mean, Like, how did that

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, beyond beside losing my daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on? I was, I told you, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I was thinking what bridge, which pill?

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<v Speaker 3>Bottle of pill? Like I didn't want to live?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because I mean not only that, like, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I feel like these stories are meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be heard all those things, is because yeah, it may

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<v Speaker 1>have been so easy for her to say those you know, allegations,

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<v Speaker 1>but she affected your life forever and it's entity.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that's what she wanted to do, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's still just because you want to do something doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that means it's the right thing to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm saying, is like, why I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>important for you to like speak your truth is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I felt the biggest thing was is when

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<v Speaker 1>you were telling like when she'd have interviews, and now

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<v Speaker 1>she's an advocate for you know, domestic violence and based

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<v Speaker 1>off the heels of the story from you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like if it's loosely lightly whatever, you know implied,

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<v Speaker 1>it still affects you today because that happened how many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, but now it's still portrayed to do something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And are you the right woman for the job if

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<v Speaker 1>you're lying to everybody? And how are you glorified in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation? And how do you know what's right or wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's just using everyone, and so everyone who literally

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<v Speaker 2>from the tmzs to the Daily Mail to the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched Wendy Williams say the worst things in the

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<v Speaker 2>world about me, having no idea that the person she's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it completely lied. And here's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>that really is the crazy thing. Melanie made all these accusations.

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<v Speaker 2>Now mind you, these aren't charges, These are accusations.

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<v Speaker 3>She's accusing me.

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<v Speaker 2>So after she dismissed everything, now she's out of the

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<v Speaker 2>court system, so she can't say things because now I

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<v Speaker 2>can sue her. So from the time that she dismissed everything,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been about four or five years. About five years

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<v Speaker 2>she's never once said, including in her autobiography, what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to all the rape that I one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six things of rape? What happened to me beating her

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<v Speaker 2>every day? What happened to me controlling her finances so

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't have it? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Would some people say, like, is there something in place

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not allowed to talk about it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we have nothing in place that would be the.

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<v Speaker 1>Exact place where she should talk about everything that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been what ever happened? If that was the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to her, she should.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about an autobiography.

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<v Speaker 2>She should have talked about it in any one of

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<v Speaker 2>these meetings that you're helping victims out there and not

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<v Speaker 2>now move to he was mentally abusive. She's never said

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<v Speaker 2>in any of these interviews that I beat her, I

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<v Speaker 2>raped her, I was a sex trafficker, I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the porn business. I had sex with the nanny. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I ask everyone, and this is what's really crazy you

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<v Speaker 2>think about this, Any huge media outlet right now, all

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<v Speaker 2>they have to ask is Melanie. One thing, Melanie, you

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<v Speaker 2>settled with the nanny that you accused of your husband

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<v Speaker 2>getting pregnant and diverting all this money to and all

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<v Speaker 2>this other stuff that got proven that to be a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>You gave her two million dollars for her silence, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, it didn't come easy. She had to

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<v Speaker 2>go and fight Melanie because Melanie kept trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of going to court with her until, like I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, maybe not the Supreme Court, but

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<v Speaker 2>it got hurt by like three higher up courts or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which one it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>a really high up court that said Melanie, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to trial with her, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go sit on that bench and answer these questions next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Two million dollars, I'm settling. When can a man go

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<v Speaker 2>and do the things that were said in that she

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<v Speaker 2>made the nanny tattoo property of Melby on her vagina.

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<v Speaker 3>I have the picture of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She finessed this girl into I'm going to help your

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<v Speaker 2>career if you do this. I'm going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys didn't have like a three way relationship, Polly relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just she had a singular relationship with this

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<v Speaker 1>nanny and then got upset up because of a situation

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<v Speaker 1>and made it more than what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>She got obsessed with the nanny. There's text messages of

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<v Speaker 2>her saying saying, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Melby's property is a big is a big as, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A big ask. It's a big ask.

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<v Speaker 2>But she really and then it all happened that the

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<v Speaker 2>nanny turned her down, and that's when everything went sideways

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<v Speaker 2>with the nanny.

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth is is.

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<v Speaker 2>That you know, she she told the world that I

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<v Speaker 2>got the nannygant and part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the lawsuit was no, of course not. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why it's not true is because that's

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<v Speaker 2>why the nanny was suing Melanie for defamation of character,

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<v Speaker 2>because she had the text messages of telling Melanie, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I got pregnant by someone in trusting her, and Melanie going,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I've had multiple abortions, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take you there. And Melanie even paid for the abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>So then to go turn around and say that I

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<v Speaker 2>funneled money and paid her three hundred thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>then the accountants looked at what the three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>was and it was from five years of her salary.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds big when she says it to TMZ

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever, and then when you look into it, it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So Melanie dropped that if you look at everything she

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<v Speaker 2>says in every interview, it's a horrific lie. She'll say,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been able to be a round a man

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<v Speaker 2>in years because I was still within like months, she

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<v Speaker 2>was dating on Beverly Hills cop and broke married. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a married man, his wife was pregnant and broke

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<v Speaker 2>up their marriage within months of us separated. There's pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of them, there's articles of it. That's not girl power.

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<v Speaker 2>Hooking up with a girl, that's I mean with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy and you're pregnant. That's definitely not girl power. But

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<v Speaker 2>everything she said, for some reason, no one looked into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so why do you think she gets away

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<v Speaker 1>from it because the money power? I mean why, well

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<v Speaker 1>I think that because I mean all these things. Is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not I mean, you're the biggest one that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue with it because you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a child and all these things and invested. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, she's in all these lawsuits with other people

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So it's like they always tell you, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's if you keep getting in the same problem, you

422
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<v Speaker 1>maybe should look at yourself because you know, just because

423
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<v Speaker 1>we can throw money on it doesn't mean that what

424
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<v Speaker 1>you're doing is right. You know what I mean. You're

425
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<v Speaker 1>settling because you're normally usually wrongs.

426
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<v Speaker 2>She settled with Gary mental on her, the last guy

427
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<v Speaker 2>who just suited her. She has so many victims out

428
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<v Speaker 2>there that she's settled with. No one goes to the

429
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<v Speaker 2>victims and just says, hey, listen, we just want your

430
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<v Speaker 2>story real quick. Not not even a press story, just

431
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<v Speaker 2>an inquisitive person. When I called Women's Aid, Women's Aid

432
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<v Speaker 2>is the the it's a really amazing uh you know,

433
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<v Speaker 2>I guess for domestic domestic violence. It's an organization in

434
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<v Speaker 2>the UK. When I called them and told them, hey,

435
00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Melanie is clearly telling you lies, don't believe me.

436
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<v Speaker 3>I'm a liar.

437
00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I have all of the proof from forensic accountants and

438
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<v Speaker 2>from right before we went to court. They told me

439
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much, f you, we don't care. I was like,

440
00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:25.559
<v Speaker 2>but there's other victims.

441
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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that that's only because she's Melby.

442
00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that they care, sacrificing real victims to be

443
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<v Speaker 2>able to have a person like Melby be the face of.

444
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<v Speaker 3>It's stand for me and see.

445
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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I have an issue, is because I

446
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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's fair to lie about, you know, in

447
00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:46.039
<v Speaker 1>everybody's situations of domestic violence. You know, maybe it wasn't

448
00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:48.400
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with her, and maybe she's had another other

449
00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>things too, But I think it's just it's it's a

450
00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>shame that it has to be glorified when it's not

451
00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a when it's a false story, you know what I mean.

452
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<v Speaker 1>There's so many people that have real stories and real

453
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<v Speaker 1>messages in real meaning behind that really want to give,

454
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<v Speaker 1>you know, do justice for these women that have a

455
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<v Speaker 1>voice for them, a platform and all these things where

456
00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.319
<v Speaker 1>it's not fair when you're being proven time and time again.

457
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<v Speaker 1>It's like if that's who you want to have the

458
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<v Speaker 1>face of your company or your organization, Like when do

459
00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:16.920
<v Speaker 1>we draw a line like just because we want any

460
00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>celebrity to support us, or are we just supposed to

461
00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:20.559
<v Speaker 1>back it because that's what they said that we're supposed

462
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<v Speaker 1>to do.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Pierce Morgan, listenys, Pierce Morgan's been around my wife and

464
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<v Speaker 2>I before.

465
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<v Speaker 1>He are you currently you're talking about your ex wife

466
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<v Speaker 1>my ex.

467
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<v Speaker 3>Wife, Yes, sorry, my ex wife.

468
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<v Speaker 2>But so Pierce Morgan is doing a segment with her,

469
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<v Speaker 2>one of many that he's done, and he's talking about,

470
00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, me being like a you know, abusive person.

471
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<v Speaker 2>This that whatever.

472
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<v Speaker 3>He goes to ask.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Melanie, is there any record of you ever being an

474
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<v Speaker 1>abusive person in their prior other relationships, this relationship anything.

475
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<v Speaker 3>This is where this happened.

476
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<v Speaker 2>So in my entire life, in my entire life, I

477
00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>had an ex that we were together for like five years,

478
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<v Speaker 2>and this is where the I guess the lawyers got

479
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.599
<v Speaker 2>the idea to come up with this. So I had

480
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<v Speaker 2>an X and we got into an argument one night

481
00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and I grabbed her phone and I threw her phone

482
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and we pushed each other.

483
00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Wait, this is the truth, and you can look it up.

484
00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.039
<v Speaker 2>You can. There's a there's a record of it. I

485
00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.799
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a felony, it wasn't a whatever. But I admitted

486
00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to it. I said I did it. I wasn't no

487
00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:25.759
<v Speaker 2>you know thing. And from that, I think because I

488
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<v Speaker 2>admitted that one time, one time thing that I threw

489
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<v Speaker 2>a phone and we pushed each other's target, which I

490
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>was an easy target and it was the right time.

491
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<v Speaker 3>And then Melanie went on to do this stuff.

492
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<v Speaker 2>So she's on there with Pierce Morgan and Pierce Morgan

493
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<v Speaker 2>I had left a message knowing that he was going

494
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<v Speaker 2>to do this this uh interview, and I said, listen,

495
00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 2>can you ask her just one question? Why is it

496
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<v Speaker 2>from the time that she's been out of this the

497
00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:54.119
<v Speaker 2>allegations were dismissed. She's never once said anything about me

498
00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>raping and sex trafficking and beating her and the horrific

499
00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.720
<v Speaker 2>things that she said. Could you just please ask her

500
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:03.119
<v Speaker 2>while you have her online. So Pierce Morgan says to her, Hey,

501
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, Stephan called and wanted to ask something. She said,

502
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't deserve a voice. You don't ask me anything

503
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>about him. He does not deserve a voice. You don't

504
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.640
<v Speaker 2>ask me anything. And Pierce Morgan goes, yep, you know what,

505
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.759
<v Speaker 2>You're right, You're right right there. I said, wait a second.

506
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Pierce Morgan was one of a huge guy in this game.

507
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Literally thinks that a person doesn't have a voice because

508
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of an allegation, no foundation, just a person that's a celebrity.

509
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 2>So essentially, a celebrity's voice is much better than a

510
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<v Speaker 2>regular person's voice. And I called his executive producer and

511
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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, I talked to his executive producer,

512
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and I recorded it, and the executive producer. I told her, listen,

513
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I have this evidence. This this this not my word.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Forget about my word. I'm a liar. Here's the evidence.

515
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 2>And she said, Stephan, we're not prepared to make Melanie

516
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<v Speaker 2>out to be a liar. We're not interested in making

517
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<v Speaker 2>her up. I said, well, you're you're not prepared. Either

518
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>there's the true or there's a lie. You don't And I.

519
00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Think that that's kind of with me. It's like, it's

520
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so like what that is. I could understand why he

521
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>could be empathetic with her when saying that, because you've

522
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>called and then like you're supposed to be this big villain.

523
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>The empathy, like the impath of that person in him

524
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 1>getting an interview is you wouldn't think that someone would

525
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:20.079
<v Speaker 1>lie about such severe and now they're not just like

526
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>loose things. There's like very specific things that I feel

527
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like that's why some people I feel like gravitated to like, well,

528
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 1>how could you make this up? How could you do

529
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>these things? But that's you know what was what was?

530
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean as specific as you having a sex

531
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>trafficking thing, that you owning all these things, those are

532
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.079
<v Speaker 1>pretty specific things where other you know, FBI, this, that

533
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and the other, all these you know, organizations came to

534
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>your home. That's pretty specific where some people could just like, oh, yeah,

535
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.039
<v Speaker 1>he fucked this person. Nobody cares to be But that's

536
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is but that's that's the unfairness thing

537
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 1>of that gets so easy. But most people wouldn't think

538
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that someone saying those things would lie, and not only

539
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>because of the person whom you are showing the world

540
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 1>that you are and what you're encumbering. So that's what

541
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the troubling part is that anybody

542
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>can lie. Nobody is perfect. We are you know, there's

543
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>right and wrong, there's good and evil. You know, all

544
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 1>those things are right, you know things, it's things happen.

545
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 1>What the problem is is that people like what you said.

546
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 1>If she's had yes people and around her corner the

547
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 1>whole entire time, and she went through this route and

548
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>now she can't not be in it because you can't

549
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>retract because now she's lying, but you're still lying. So

550
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like how do you get out of it? You

551
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Because right now it's like, how

552
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>does your relationship with her now you have a daughter,

553
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 1>you say she's with you eighty percent of the time.

554
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You you know, do you have no contact? You completely

555
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>not say anything to each other? You know, how do

556
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you how does that coexist? Because that's the bigger picture

557
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is not only clearing your name, because you've already done

558
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that with these documents to a point, but now it

559
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to go to a bigger message and a bigger masses.

560
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>But what is the bigger picture for you? Like how

561
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<v Speaker 1>do you integrate your daughter into all these things where

562
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.559
<v Speaker 1>like letting her know what's right or wrong? And do

563
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you know how do you play that out?

564
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I have a really I'm a super

565
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>lucky guy. I mean, my daughter's very intelligent for you know,

566
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.519
<v Speaker 2>for age and kind of really just she understands a

567
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of things about you know, uh, what happened.

568
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 3>She was right there.

569
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>She she kind of saw everything firsthand. You know, I

570
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>don't Melanie and I don't have any We we talked

571
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<v Speaker 2>through an app that is used by court order.

572
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we talked. We talked through.

573
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I forged the name of it anyway, but anyway, it's

574
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>you you you that way, no one can say anything

575
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>or she says oh, I threatened or I did this,

576
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 2>or I did that.

577
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 3>And with Melanie, you have I have to be.

578
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Very very careful because Melanie lies at any given point.

579
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 2>My daughter needed to get braces right now. And she

580
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 2>called the doctor's office. First of all, she didn't want

581
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>her to get braces, and she was adamant she doesn't

582
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>get braces. The doctor was saying that she should definitely

583
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>have braces or whatever. So she calls the doctor's office

584
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 2>recently and she said, I have a restraining order with him,

585
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>and he beat me, and we don't have a restraining order.

586
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I never had a restraining order on you. I had

587
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>a temporary restraining order that got thrown out because of

588
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the court.

589
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.839
<v Speaker 1>This was like years ago, no years ago, But she'll

590
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>tell someone today again today she never had any like

591
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's not to say that it's an issue with

592
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>like mental health issues, like someone that's being that like

593
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>habitual of a liar, Like that's not something that you

594
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>just do, like you do just for fun. And those

595
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 1>are things that are like evident things like that's no

596
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>one questions fucked up, no one question that. It's like

597
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>now it's like your daughter's doctor, like where does it end?

598
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, listen, when no one questions you, you don't

599
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>have a limit. So no one questions Melanie because she's

600
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>a victim. First of all, she's in the victim thing,

601
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>so she's a fake victim, but she portrays herself as

602
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a victim. So you would feel like a complete piece

603
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>of crap to say to a person who really went

604
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>through this stuff to even question them and go, well,

605
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 2>wait a second. But Melanie has this carte blanche right

606
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>now where she'll say any lie about anything and people

607
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>just believe her. She'll say, you know, oh my god,

608
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>he beat me and he did this, and he did that,

609
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and I have restraining order and we don't have a

610
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>restraining order.

611
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Where did I beat you? Where?

612
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Like? But she'll lie and lie and lie and no one,

613
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 2>no one questions her.

614
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So with all of these facts now that we

615
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>have out here, we know, you know what I mean

616
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more intune too, Like you know, we

617
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 1>knew the allegations, we didn't know the in depth of

618
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>certain things. Where are How has that affected you moving

619
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>forward to like business wise, because now we talk about

620
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like let's go back and I hate like using an example,

621
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 1>but the giant depth thing whatever. It was based off

622
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of roles that he lost. It was about you know,

623
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 1>all these things that money wise is because we're in

624
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 1>entertainment and you already had a name before you were

625
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>with her, and you worked hard for that, you know

626
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? And being in this this world, how

627
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>did that affect you? And what did you do for?

628
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Like what did you do other than like did you

629
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>lose friends because of it? Did they believe you? Did

630
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 1>people come up to you and tell you, Hey, did

631
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>this really happen? Did that offend you that you would

632
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 1>even think that that was the thing is because nobody

633
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>knows what happens in closed doors. I mean, I'm I've

634
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>been divorced for eight years. Nobody knew what happened was

635
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in my household, and it wasn't always pretty. But from

636
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the outside looking in, we were great, you know what

637
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, So things happen.

638
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I think a lot of people that were

639
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>really close it was just like, I mean, what is

640
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 2>she lying about? Because you know, most of those people

641
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>were there watching her pass out on the floor or

642
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>watching her go crazy or doing whatever. So I think

643
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the people that were close were like, Oh, she's really

644
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 2>going overboard.

645
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 1>This this happened eventually exactly.

646
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 2>And then I think people in business, you know, I

647
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>think the word around town, at least you know in

648
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the US, is that Melanie's not the easiest person to

649
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.279
<v Speaker 2>deal with on set. I mean, she was screaming at

650
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 2>people on you know, America's got talent and she's she's

651
00:29:59.319 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>got her ways.

652
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that a lot of people. I

653
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 3>think in business.

654
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 2>After it calmed down a little bit, and people that

655
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>really know me and know how I am, you know,

656
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>it definitely calmed down.

657
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 3>But initially it was it was what.

658
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Was the biggest deal you lost?

659
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean I lost many deals.

660
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean I had what was one for you that

661
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you were like?

662
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I had?

663
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I had a I was starting a film and there

664
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 2>was somebody who was putting in the initial three million

665
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>dollars and they had done numerous projects with me before,

666
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 2>but we didn't know each other personally. It was just

667
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a business thing. And immediately pulled that, that was just

668
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>like wow, And then other things.

669
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a lot of different for sure.

670
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I say it's like it's it's unfortunate.

671
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>It's because as much as you've just proven everything that

672
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the allegations were alive. Nobody thinks we have to prove them.

673
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>That's but that's the thing is nobody knows that, and

674
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>then nobody knows what on the other side of that,

675
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I mean other than who your immediate

676
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like contacts of you know, la are. So that's the

677
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is, like how do you move forward now? Like

678
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>now because of you, there has there been some time

679
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>moving forward. But you know is do people kind of

680
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>just forget about it or do they know he is

681
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>your name always still going to be tied to this incident?

682
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>It will I mean, that's why I'm sitting here right now.

683
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm going to talk about it. I didn't

684
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about anything. I thought at some point

685
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 2>that Melanie would just go and do her or something.

686
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, this I Am a victim thing

687
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>where she is making her rounds to every TV show,

688
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to every interview. It's about her being a victim. But

689
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>she never says I beat her. She just says she

690
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>was in an abusive relationship, and she says mentally abusive.

691
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you can't how do you even

692
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>argue a mental abuse thing? Because if you tell your

693
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>partner fuck you or screw off or whatever. That's mental abuse.

694
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So now she's doing this, so I have to speak up.

695
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I have a daughter who looks at this stuff. You know,

696
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>she's been teased before in school a lot of different

697
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>things that I thought, you know what, let me just

698
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>be the bigger man and just let it. But five years,

699
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>six years later, she's running around Carte Blanche because she's

700
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>a celebrity telling everyone that will listen she's a victim,

701
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 2>and no one is asking her the basic question, Melanie Brown,

702
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>how come if you're a victim, you're not fighting to

703
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>You said your husband raped you one hundred and fifty

704
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 2>eight times. There was blood and feces in the bed.

705
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>He's a sex trafficker, he's in the porn business. How

706
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>are you not fighting to your last breath to have

707
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 2>your daughter with him eighty percent of the time?

708
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Like, how does this work?

709
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't make sense.

710
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make sense.

711
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing, you know, going online. It's like

712
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 1>there are certain things that you can allege and then

713
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>when you like you once they are facts now and

714
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not the same thing. It's you know, your

715
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 1>word is not as golden as it once was. And

716
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that's fortunately you know that that's happened. And that's what

717
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I think is so sad is in these cases like

718
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the Giant Depp and you're in yourself. It's like, just

719
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're a repudo and Bill Mann and all these things,

720
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 1>is like, and a relationship didn't work out, it doesn't

721
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>mean that it makes it okay for you to make

722
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>all these allegations and try to ruin my life for

723
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life, because as easy as you

724
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>said it, it's not as easy to take it back.

725
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, she didn't care. I mean that was her first

726
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>two marriages. You got to remember her first marriage from

727
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>her eldest daughter. She alleged that he beat her a

728
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of the same things, and she was able to

729
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>get full custody. The second one she had a daughter

730
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>with Eddie Murphy, and Eddie Murphy was like, dude, I

731
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 2>want nothing to do with you. Get the hell away

732
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>from me. Your batshit crazy and kind of gave her

733
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>full custody. So when it came to me, I think

734
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>she just thought it was going to be cookie cutter

735
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>as easy to give me, which I'll die for my

736
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>daughter in real life, so you're not going to get

737
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>me to walk away from my daughter by doing all

738
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>of these little things about abuse and this and that

739
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 2>it didn't work.

740
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 1>So through the ten years that you were married, there

741
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was no ever like insight to like red flags that

742
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 1>these things could ever be an issue at one point,

743
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>because this is a lot of like things that yes,

744
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you know the yes yes people to her, and you

745
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>know this lifestyle that we live as grandios saw all

746
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>these things, but there was never any inclinations that you

747
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>could have a target on your back.

748
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you you're so.

749
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>For me anyway.

750
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about everybody but me, right,

751
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like an old school New York guy, Like

752
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna protect my girl no matter what. Right somebody

753
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>jumps out the bushes with a gun, they got to

754
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 2>shoot me first.

755
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>So I was so busy.

756
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Trying to be that guy and thought that, by the way,

757
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't this way the whole time. This gradually started

758
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 2>back up when Melanie started getting like known as an

759
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>individual as Melanie Brown, not Scary Spice, not Melby. Mel

760
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 2>then started to have like, I guess a second hurrah

761
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 2>of celebrity.

762
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I responsible for that.

763
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean she states it in her book. I mean,

764
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm the one who put all of her deals together

765
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and stuff or whatever. But I thought we were doing

766
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 2>something for our end goal, our game plan that you

767
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>know that she and I had. But unfortunately, you know

768
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Melanie that the problem is is that when you when

769
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>you're in a relationship like this, you don't want to

770
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>think that somebody could ever do this to you. Even

771
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>if you see the person do things, you're not like thinking, hey,

772
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>anything that they did.

773
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Let me give you an example.

774
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>There was a huge thing in our and this is

775
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>very important for someone to pay attention to in our marriage.

776
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>There was a time that Melanie we were living in

777
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the UK, and Melanie was in the hospital for like

778
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>a week. When Melanie came out of the hospital for

779
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 2>some reason, I guess a journalist or something said look,

780
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>it looks like she has bruises on her right and

781
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 2>people ran with a story that I had put her

782
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital for abuse. Now is the farthest thing

783
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>from the truth. I'm going to tell you why she's

784
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital in a second, but I definitely had

785
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>nothing to.

786
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Do with it, but why she was in the hospital.

787
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>But the problem was is that I was mad at

788
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Melanie and have the recordings of talking to her and saying, Melanie,

789
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>why are you letting people beat me down and think

790
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 2>that I'm abusive because you don't want them to know

791
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>why you were really in the hospital. So Melanie was

792
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital because she had a drug overdose. Nothing

793
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>to do with me. That was Melanie doing her cocaine,

794
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Melanie doing her drugs. She was in there for seven days.

795
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>If you beat someone up and they're in the hospital

796
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>for seven days, you're talking about I mean, listen, MMA

797
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 2>fighters fighting.

798
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're going to jail. There's other things going.

799
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>As soon as the person hits the hospital. The hospital

800
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>by law, every hospital pretty much in the US and

801
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 2>the UK for sure, in those two places, when someone

802
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>comes in with physical things on them, there has to

803
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>be a report. This is guaranteed. So she came in

804
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 2>with no bruises, no nothing. She came in there and

805
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 2>she was in there because her kidney and liver and

806
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of other things were failing her. There's MMA

807
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>fighters that beat the shit out of each other and

808
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>they're not in the hospital for seven days. Seven days

809
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>is like your liver's done.

810
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 1>You're heavily abusing drugs or whatever substance is the truth.

811
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm saying, if you beat the person in

812
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 2>there and there for seven days, you're talking black. You know,

813
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you're talking like fracture. This, I mean seven days a

814
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>long time in the hospital. So she didn't she would

815
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>not admit to the her going in for a drug overdose.

816
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Now this is where it screwed me up. Cut to

817
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>when it was our divorce. Melanie says in our divorce

818
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>that I beat her within an inch of her life.

819
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 2>That's why she was in the hospital. This is in

820
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 2>her this is what she said. I beat her within

821
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>an inch of her life. That's why she was in

822
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the hospital for seven days. This is our set, like

823
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the final time, we're getting divorced. All of a sudden,

824
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of everything, she realizes, oh my god,

825
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't prove that. So then she writes in her

826
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 2>book and then starts saying, I was so depressed that

827
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>he was beating me. I tried to commit suicide by

828
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 2>taking drugs. Not one person said to her, Melanie, you

829
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>just said he beat you within an inch of your

830
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>life to go into and this is You're not with him,

831
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 2>You're not scared of him. You're talking so much shit

832
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 2>about him. Why are you saying that that he beat

833
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you and now all of a sudden you were beaten

834
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>up so bad through life that.

835
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 3>You tried to kill yourself.

836
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>It was like she would just switch up at any moment.

837
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>No one cares, no one can. I mean, it's the

838
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 2>best carte blanche lie.

839
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I think that. I don't think that when I don't

840
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>think you're well, let's say that you say no one cares.

841
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I think people care. I think at the time the

842
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 1>people that she was saying the message to nobody cared

843
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to believe her whatever she was saying

844
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 1>to them. I think is now as the time was

845
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>like when facts or facts, facts are facts, you know

846
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And that's what I think that it

847
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>needs to be more put like a precedent on is

848
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>because that's what matters.

849
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for. If you said someone cares, show me.

850
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to see the Pierce Morgan.

851
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I want to see the But the thing is is,

852
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 1>but okay, those people may not ever tell you you

853
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 1>know what, yeah you're right, or you know and give

854
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you an apologies and on any of those things. But

855
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it just even like with the Johnny Depp thing, is

856
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 1>that to me shows that there's a step in the

857
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>right direction of listening and when there's facts and there's

858
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>facts and even again, like he admitted to doing all

859
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the things that he did that wasn't legal or any

860
00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of those things. But I'm just saying is like, people

861
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think that people that we give this big nuance

862
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to people because you're a star and all these things

863
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>could lie or do all these things. You know, I

864
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

865
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I see it a little different because Women's Aid is

866
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge organization in the UK. They are aware

867
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>that Melanie has abused people forget about me.

868
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you also, this is the first time that

869
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting down and telling your story. I feel like,

870
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, that was your own personal journey of

871
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>why you chose to wait now, and I appreciate you

872
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 1>for coming here. But that's also why it's like not

873
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people has questioned her non truths. So

874
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 1>it's like, if you put it out there more and more,

875
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm a believer just in manifestation. It's like, if you're

876
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 1>speaking your truth, then you can sit here with conviction

877
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>and you're not lying and you have nothing to hide.

878
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>You have done everything right from getting your daughter back,

879
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 1>which was your most important point, and again showing that

880
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 1>if that's important to you, it should be important. Or

881
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 1>you made her together and you're still allowed to see

882
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 1>her eighty percent of the time. It's very telling. I'm

883
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 1>just saying is that it needs to be spoke about more.

884
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 1>It needs to be heard more and more platforms more,

885
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, things that there could be people that we

886
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>look up to, but we all were humane and we lie.

887
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think she has any remorse from it all?

888
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that if she could take it back

889
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 1>right now?

890
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:16.840
<v Speaker 2>No, No, nothing.

891
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Because she's still doing it currently.

892
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 3>No.

893
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's. I mean, it's it's bizarre. It's it's it's

894
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a weird bizarre. This morning she sent me

895
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 2>a message. I don't respond to these messages because they're

896
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're they're weird. My daughter went to see

897
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>her because it's summertime, so she sees her for two

898
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>months in the summertime. My daughter I put my daughter

899
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>in uggs to go on the plane. It was a

900
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>long plane ride, so my daughter doesn't wear uggs in California.

901
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Usually it's quite warm here.

902
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 2>So she sends me a message and he goes, because

903
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you have my daughter wearing uggs all the time. She

904
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>has to get her feet fitted by an orthod orthopedic

905
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>doctor and this what do you? What are you?

906
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So she's just looking for palm to fight.

907
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Looking for And this is from the big bad wolf

908
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 2>who was like she was scared to death of and

909
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 2>and I was this bad, bad person.

910
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>She still do you still have love for her?

911
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. I have a zero I can

912
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I tell you the truth. People always say, Stephan, come on,

913
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you were with her ten years and and you had

914
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to have some good times. And the reality is is

915
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 2>that I don't have dreams about her. I don't miss

916
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>anything about her, because when she decided to lie and

917
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 2>tried to take away my daughter and and did the

918
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>horrific lies and things that she did, everything good about

919
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>her went out the window. Not saying there wasn't good things. Listen,

920
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even saying that she is the bad person.

921
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>All she did was drugs.

922
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 3>I was a shithead too.

923
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>We had a we had a we had a even

924
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't beat her, I didn't hit her.

925
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 3>I didn't I.

926
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't a sex trafficker. I didn't have a gun. I

927
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't like all the things that she made up. But

928
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>yet was was I like an ant asshole sometimes too?

929
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Fuck yeah, I wasn't like this isn't like Melanie's the

930
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>worst person. But we had a regular what I would

931
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>call regular thing. We didn't have anything physical, We didn't

932
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 2>have anything overly crazy. You know, there was no control

933
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of She's like, oh, he controlled my accounts. How do

934
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you have one thousand million text messages to the accountant

935
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth and have nothing to do with me.

936
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>You're controlling where the money goes off anything. She had

937
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>all the control because you know why, she told Mike

938
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Solberman in the very end, my husband's beaten me. I

939
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>need you to take all the money out of our

940
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 2>bank accounts. He emptied our bank accounts based on her word. Now,

941
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 2>if you think of that real quick, do you think

942
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I could have went to Mike Soberlman and he's ad

943
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>a big company and said, you know, my wife's beating me,

944
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>can you empty He would have called her immediately and said,

945
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>mel what's going on. Steffan's trying to empty out the

946
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>bank accounts.

947
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Did she ever put her hands on you.

948
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not going to say she was drunk like

949
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I got the fuck yo this whatever. But she wasn't

950
00:42:58.360 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>abusive like punching me an inniman some.

951
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 1>So vice versa. That you never put your hands on

952
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>herd We never.

953
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>We didn't have physical fights. There was no need for it.

954
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 2>So you gotta understand this real quick. I learned a

955
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>lot from that first time that I let myself go

956
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 2>when I threw the phone and I pushed the girl

957
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that I was with. For that, I had to go

958
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>to anger management classes, and at first I hated it.

959
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't need no anger management classes. This is corny,

960
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 2>this is for weird. But then I had to go

961
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>downtown in this whatever place and I ended up being

962
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of the leader of the anger management and state

963
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 2>for another four weeks. I was running the group because

964
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what, there was so many issues I had

965
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that I hadn't dealt with, and you.

966
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Know, there was a lot of insecurities there was.

967
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 2>It was picking the right person too, to be honest

968
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 2>with you, like I was a horrible person at picking.

969
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Attract what we know, what we're putting.

970
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Out there exactly. So I was attracted nothing to say,

971
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and they were horrible. We were horrible together together. We

972
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>were we exactly, We're a mass. I was a lot

973
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 2>more cognizant of what I want to bring in my life.

974
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not jealous. I don't care. I'm not a

975
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm dating you and you want to go I don't care.

976
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Like life is simple short. When you die, you go

977
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>in a box by yourself. I'm going on a box

978
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 2>by myself. Let's try to make the best of it

979
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>in between.

980
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 3>And it is what it is. I don't want no problems.

981
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I just want to have a.

982
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to have good enough, as good as life

983
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>as I possibly can, without all the stress.

984
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So what have you? What do you want out of

985
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>this whole message that you're now speaking up. This is

986
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the first time that you've spoke about it. You you

987
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 1>know you? What is your message?

988
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 2>My message is I would love for any one of

989
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>these people that call themselves journalists, any people that have

990
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>journalism journalistic integrity, or any people that including the Women's

991
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Aid Organization, to take a look at some of the evidence.

992
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Don't look at what I say. I'm a liar, forget it.

993
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm the worst liar in the world. Don't believe anything

994
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I say. Only look at the evidence. The facts don't

995
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>believe me. So if you will take a look at

996
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the facts and say, Melanie paid this young female off

997
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>two million dollars and this is what she's alleging, how

998
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 2>can we have a person that's the face of our

999
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 2>organization or Melanie said very clearly these things right here,

1000
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're completely they're completely a lie.

1001
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 3>How can we have this type of person?

1002
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>And then the people that were so eager to report,

1003
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Harvey Levins of the world, that sat

1004
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>there for a half an hour and had a whole.

1005
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 3>A program about me without ever asking.

1006
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 2>In the very end and going, wait a second, she

1007
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>dismissed everything. This doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense.

1008
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 2>She's never said I hit her since then in her autobiography,

1009
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't say it. You asked me very clearly, Stephan,

1010
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>do you have anything that prevents you or her from

1011
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 2>talking about each other?

1012
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 3>No?

1013
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

1014
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, she doesn't.

1015
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know. The thing is is with all of

1016
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>this is I feel like people forget that we're humane,

1017
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and people forget that there's multiple sides to stories. There's

1018
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>different reasons why people do things. It could be for jealousy,

1019
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>sadness in the wrong place, drugs, alcohol, whatever it is.

1020
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 1>But people don't think about the other side and the

1021
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>repercussions of what that does. And I think that people

1022
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>really need to take a serious look at like who

1023
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>we allow in our lives, who we continue to put

1024
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>into our lives emotionally, like in ourators business relationships. Wise,

1025
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>is because I feel like, not that you could have

1026
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>prevented any of these things to happen, but I also

1027
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's like it's a telling lesson that anybody

1028
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 1>could do it to you. You know, it could be anybody.

1029
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, here's the thing, and this goes because Melanie

1030
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 2>has a lot of fans from Spice Girls, right So

1031
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 2>there's a person looking, do you have Spice.

1032
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Girl hate club for you?

1033
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, yes, yes, But here's the thing, you know,

1034
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and I don't have any hatred for them.

1035
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

1036
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>They grew up with her. This is a person that

1037
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>they idolize, they look at they they know, but.

1038
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>They're hearing the wrong message. They're hearing it one sided

1039
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 1>without no truth.

1040
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the interesting thing. I say this right here for

1041
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 2>anyone who is a Spice Girls fan. Right now, one

1042
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest things that a Spice Girls fan would

1043
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>love to have happen is when the Spice Girls get

1044
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 2>back together, they have a reunion or whatever. Right, Okay,

1045
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 2>so this is once again evidence right here, not me,

1046
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I have the evidence.

1047
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Anyone can see it. Melanie was asked.

1048
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 2>By the Spice Girls, I think it was Jerry or

1049
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe Emma emailing her and they were saying, hey, listen,

1050
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 2>let's do something for the fans. Let's do a big

1051
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 2>reunion right now for charity. And Melanie's response to that

1052
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 2>on email I have anyone can look at it is

1053
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>fuck charity. I need money. I want to pay some

1054
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I want money. Fuck charity.

1055
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>I want money.

1056
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Now if that's a person that can bring all the

1057
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>happiness to those fans and do some good with the charity.

1058
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 3>And her thing was fuck charity.

1059
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I want money.

1060
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean she threw her own her husband under the

1061
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>bus because of a drug addiction problem and didn't want

1062
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to admit to it. Are you really surprised.

1063
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, they'll be surprised.

1064
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. It's setting the narrative of what the yes,

1065
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>who you are idolizing?

1066
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, Melanie went on a tangent and told the

1067
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>whole world that I stopped her from talking to her

1068
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>mother and her father. I have a thousand emails. I

1069
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>have the emails, very simple that her mother would send

1070
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 2>her and c see me sometimes or I would. She

1071
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 2>would send them to me afterward, where her mom says,

1072
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>we don't want you in our lives. You're a drunk, alcoholic,

1073
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.679
<v Speaker 2>sex attic weirdo. I mean, her parents would tell her

1074
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 2>off every other day. And then her dad passed away.

1075
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Her dad had cancer for years, right, she didn't see him,

1076
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't talk to him. He passes away. She does this

1077
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 2>huge like, God, my dad passed away. All of the

1078
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>emails that he sent or said I want nothing to

1079
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.039
<v Speaker 2>do with you. You're a despicable, horrible person. And then

1080
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>she went and painted this whole thing of like my

1081
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 2>dad died. And that's when I came to clarity and

1082
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.719
<v Speaker 2>knew I had to get out of this divorce. I mean,

1083
00:48:57.880 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>this marriage that was I was being abused. I'm like,

1084
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>where is this coming from? Like no one even gets it.

1085
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Like if they just sat down and looked at this stuff,

1086
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>they would go, it's highly delusional.

1087
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 1>It's troubling, you know, it really is it's you know.

1088
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say it's like mental health is a

1089
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>real thing. I don't know her situation at all. I'm

1090
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 1>not labeling that at all, but from the accounts whatever,

1091
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand from the level of I've been

1092
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who's gone through a divorce, it wasn't divorce is

1093
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>something that I don't wish upon anybody. Was something that

1094
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I chose to do myself first, but it definitely wasn't easy.

1095
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Definitely not as tumultuous as your situation whatsoever. But again,

1096
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>knowing when you when you love somebody, not realizing that

1097
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>what people's evil could really do to get get their

1098
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>own gain, it's it's it's it's alarming, you know. And

1099
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>so it's one of those things where it's like you

1100
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 1>can only do what's good for you, and it's unfortunate.

1101
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you have to be the bigger person. And you've

1102
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 1>kept quiet for a very long time, and so, you know,

1103
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I commend you for just really focusing on your daughter

1104
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and getting those important things back and getting your life

1105
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 1>back track because it should have never been off track

1106
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 1>because those things were allegations and they were you were

1107
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 1>falsely accused. And so I'm if anybody doesn't say sorry,

1108
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that that you had to go through that,

1109
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know that we talk about it business wise.

1110
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Has it happened had an effect on you relationship wise

1111
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>as well? Because that is the target as you're on

1112
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>your back as well. I mean, if women stay away

1113
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 1>or did you you know, have to just have a

1114
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>gift of gab because you can talk so eloquently and

1115
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that you're just like tell them your story and they

1116
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>get it, or I mean listen, or were you completely

1117
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 1>turned off because of this last situation you were in

1118
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 1>it can go? I was you know, like fuck women.

1119
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, fuck women. But you know,

1120
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm I definitely wasn't looking to get into a relationship.

1121
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a good side piece, you know. You know, I'm good.

1122
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll be there. We get this that whatever, But like,

1123
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 2>do you.

1124
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Start as her side piece? Would did you start as

1125
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 1>her side No?

1126
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 2>No?

1127
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no no no.

1128
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>We had a no, we had an you know, we

1129
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 2>had a real friendship and a real you know connection

1130
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 2>and stuff that'll you can't take that away. It was.

1131
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>It was real. What it turned out to be is

1132
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>no different than when you kind of look at you know,

1133
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 2>the news, and you see this couple was married for

1134
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years and the husband goes off and kills

1135
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 2>the wife, or the wife kills the kids or the whatever.

1136
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people's evil doesn't manifest itself for a long period

1137
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 2>of time. And then if you put a little bit

1138
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.440
<v Speaker 2>of drugs and alcohol, and then and then you got

1139
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to remember, you know, I would think of Melanie as

1140
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 2>the biggest narcissist in the world because that sympathy fueled

1141
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 2>her to where I've never seen her champion something. I mean,

1142
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>this is a woman in her in her deposition. Let

1143
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 2>me tell you how interesting this is. Melanie's championing so

1144
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 2>much about domestic violence. She gets her deposition, and in

1145
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.199
<v Speaker 2>the deposition, my amazing lawyer, Grace Jamra has to know

1146
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.159
<v Speaker 2>with all to ask her a question. She keeps hearing

1147
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 2>her say, this organization and the woman that runs the

1148
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 2>organization is like like sister to me, and.

1149
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 3>I love her so much.

1150
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And Grace says to her, what's the name of this

1151
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>organization that you love to the core of your body

1152
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 2>and that your women's rights and in this and victims

1153
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and I don't I don't remember what, but who is

1154
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the woman that you said means so much. That's like

1155
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a sister to you now that has really changed your life.

1156
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask my assistant Gary what it's all for?

1157
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Show Melanie? She when you ever watch her things, it's

1158
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent of women that are or whatever. She's

1159
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 2>not talking regular, she's saying it out of like she.

1160
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Was taught or what is the word?

1161
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's she's rehearsing it.

1162
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 1>It's rehearsed it we rehearsed.

1163
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 3>It's while rehearsed.

1164
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1165
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate because I do you know again, I I

1166
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>don't wish domestic violinist on anybody. It's you know, it

1167
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>can go both ways, female and male. I think that

1168
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it's unfortunate that in a society that we live in today,

1169
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 1>that it's so easily just to believe any story without

1170
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>any facts, and because people do have empathy for a

1171
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>people because we don't think that we would lie in

1172
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>those big situations, and then when it is a lie,

1173
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 1>it kind of you know, loses the luster of who

1174
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 1>are we empathetic too? But it's unfortunate that celebrities and

1175
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in her high power are taking you know, her privilege

1176
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>that she's gotten this platform from all the you know,

1177
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>these fans over time to capitalize on something that shouldn't

1178
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 1>be her voice. And it doesn't mean that she shouldn't

1179
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 1>continue to go do her career and be who she is,

1180
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but maybe they should sit this one out and not

1181
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 1>be on a women's board that you're talking about something

1182
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 1>that you really have no no to be toping about,

1183
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 1>no clue. You know there's other there's other candidates that

1184
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 1>can be out there doing a better job and really

1185
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 1>advocating for people to get a job done and know

1186
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>what that meaning feels like and really have a connection

1187
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>with these women and really make a meaning in it.

1188
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And they didn't pay off victims either. They didn't pay

1189
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 2>off victims. Yeah, that's a huge thing. Like what guy

1190
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know, having a guy who's done multiple

1191
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 2>payoffs to women being on the head of a board

1192
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 2>for you know, for victims and stuff.

1193
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any sense.

1194
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 1>What is something in your life right now that excites

1195
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about a bunch of heavy things,

1196
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 1>but I know that's some stuff that you have. Yeah,

1197
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we can take a little bit of All right, let's

1198
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 1>take a break and we'll come back. All right, private talk.

1199
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>We are back, and I hope you are loving the episode.

1200
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I hope that you are getting a lot of information

1201
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.159
<v Speaker 1>because I know I have. It's important to always know

1202
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>both sides and three sides to every story, and just

1203
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>listening to the truth is most important of all. But

1204
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.119
<v Speaker 1>before our break, we were talking about describe something that's

1205
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>exciting in your life right now. I know we talked

1206
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.079
<v Speaker 1>about a bunch of heavy things that was much needed,

1207
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 1>get it off your chest because you got to have

1208
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 1>your voice out there. But what's currently going on with

1209
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 1>you right now that's very exciting to you? Do you

1210
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>have any new business endeavors? Is it just because it's summer,

1211
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:48.039
<v Speaker 1>your daughter's out of school? What's going on?

1212
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Most exciting thing for me is having my daughter all

1213
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the time. So yeah, other than that, everything else is

1214
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, my life is going well, with my work,

1215
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>with you know, just everything, my personal life, everything you

1216
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:02.480
<v Speaker 2>know is going is going well.

1217
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Definitely a lot better, you know. But my daughter, to answer.

1218
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Your question, my daughter, I spent a lot of time

1219
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>with her. We do a lot of like amazing stuff.

1220
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>And what kind of you know, how old is she?

1221
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>What kind of like human is she?

1222
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Is?

1223
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>She into? She just her own little person, and she's

1224
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>a fashion is she's liking all the music out there, Like,

1225
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 1>how is it being a girl dad in this like

1226
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>current time, you know, regardless of you know, all the

1227
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>stress that you know, you dealt with, you know, her

1228
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 1>mom's situation, you seem like a very good and like

1229
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 1>down to earth dad where it's like you want to

1230
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 1>put those core beliefs in your child, Like yeah, I.

1231
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Mean, listen, my daughter's a really smart, intelligent Uh just

1232
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 2>she just got into the smart and gifted, smart and talented,

1233
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>talented and gifted program at school, which they only select

1234
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>like six people out of the whole school. She's ten

1235
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.559
<v Speaker 2>years old, but she's ten going on thirty. Now, you

1236
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 2>know young kids now are they're quite quite intelligent. But yeah,

1237
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>we do everything together. You know, we cook, we we

1238
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 2>hang out. I talked to her about real life stuff.

1239
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>She's like my best buddy, you know.

1240
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>She told me, is your boss?

1241
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Well she's yeah.

1242
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>She's well she's got there's boundaries, but she's your bound.

1243
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my boss.

1244
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 2>She definitely knows how to like use the little daddy's

1245
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 2>girl thing on me.

1246
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm a daddy's girl. I know how that goes. You

1247
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 1>flip your lip one time and she's.

1248
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh no, she knows how to. I'll be like

1249
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 3>you buttering me up. You're buttering me up. She's like,

1250
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm buttering you up, dad, you know.

1251
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know she's she's she's definitely you know, uh.

1252
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Very creative.

1253
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.159
<v Speaker 2>She's painting, she comes to the studio with me, she's

1254
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>around a lot of artists. She sings, she's recording videos,

1255
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 2>she edits things. She's very definitely you know, she got

1256
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:43.159
<v Speaker 2>She keeps a little journal.

1257
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<v Speaker 3>She's very into that.

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00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But then she also likes creating her own like little moisturizers.

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00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 2>She wants to have a skincare line when she grows up.

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00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>She she makes her own little lipsticks and stuff.

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00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, that's awesome.

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00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love how like because of how

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00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 1>like oversaturated our world is sometimes you think could be

1264
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. I think is sometimes really a good

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00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>thing in the right places for children, when you have

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00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 1>those communities where they allow you to do those things.

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00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Because it's like, at ten years old, I wouldn't have

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00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 1>ever thought or know the capability of what that would

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00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 1>even mean, you know what I mean. But also being

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00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 1>around the environment that you're in and the community and

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00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 1>knowing of like the what you could reach and obtain

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00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 1>with this to dream. I think is really fascinating to

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00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>see Little Mind's work and see like those where they

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00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 1>really go and like a aspire to.

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00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Be You could really be anything nowadays. When someone tells

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00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you like you can be anything, you really can be

1277
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:31.519
<v Speaker 2>anything nowadays?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, I think again, But I think a lot

1279
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 1>of it has to do with the community you surround

1280
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you or that you're in. Yeah, cuzing with me is

1281
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.679
<v Speaker 1>like I never I'm like, what is my talent? I

1282
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.199
<v Speaker 1>knew I was good at sports, I knew I was

1283
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 1>good at like things, but it wasn't like we didn't

1284
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>have as many resources I think out there to know

1285
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>what my talents were until like later on in life

1286
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.920
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, oh, this is what we're doing. Yeah,

1287
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 1>dating life? What is that? Currently? Life? Not just I'm

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00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 1>just you're just a side piece side peace life.

1289
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 2>In side piece life. Now you know why, Uh, getting

1290
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:08.599
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship takes a lot, Like you know, especially

1291
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you really want to go into a relationship where when

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, especially because of everything I went through,

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00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 2>when you're at your best right and everything else is

1294
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of situated, I would say that I'm quite situated

1295
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:26.280
<v Speaker 2>with my my daughter, my my my career. But I just,

1296
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just personal work. Yeah, yeah, personal work.

1297
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I need to just I need to. I'm loving me.

1298
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm loving me right now.

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00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about that personal journey. What's one thing

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00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 1>that you've developed that you know, like a tool that

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00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you've that you're working on currently.

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00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>And just in my personal development? Yeah, I mean, I

1303
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:52.119
<v Speaker 2>mean just everything. I mean anything that you know, talk about.

1304
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Like even like relationships, you know, like you know, COVID happened.

1305
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of time, there was downtime. A

1306
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people use it for some things and people didn't.

1307
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Some people went to depression, so people didn't. But I

1308
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:04.039
<v Speaker 1>think that it also allowed us to like slow down

1309
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and either like with me myself, I'm a busy person

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00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 1>all the time. It was the first time that I

1311
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, and I said earlier, I've been divorced for

1312
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.519
<v Speaker 1>eight years. There are certain things that I didn't deal

1313
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 1>with that I was over the relationship, but I didn't

1314
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>deal with the issues until I, like the noise was quiet,

1315
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 1>so then it was like working on those things.

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00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 3>COVID was great for me.

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00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, was there something like that that that sticks

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00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 1>out in your mind that like that you have more

1320
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you're more hyper aware.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess you're not.

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00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Perfect over there.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, but I've been I'm gonna be

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00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:37.559
<v Speaker 3>honest with you.

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00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been working this stuff for quite a while, so

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00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's not that many things that like I'm

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00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.880
<v Speaker 2>like still. I mean, listen, obviously everyone's you know, work

1328
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>in progress, but I've been dealing with a lot of

1329
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>these things for a long period of time of really

1330
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.280
<v Speaker 2>just trying to get shit together.

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00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, then have you really learned the lesson because

1332
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they tell you that if you haven't, those keep those

1333
00:59:58.039 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 1>still things that you keep on dealing with keep on

1334
00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>repeat themselves.

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01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't have these issues. I don't have those issues.

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01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't have I don't learn the issues.

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01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean listen, I'm a I'm a

1338
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.880
<v Speaker 2>junior high dropout. Everything I learned had to be like

1339
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.039
<v Speaker 2>I learned it like on the job training rate there.

1340
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, I don't really have a lot

1341
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.079
<v Speaker 2>of issues. Like you know, a lot of people that

1342
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 2>I know are like, oh, I have this drama or

1343
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm fighting this or this argument.

1344
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

1345
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't have those things. I'm kind of you know,

1346
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not perfect, but I'm chill. I'm like, I'm not

1347
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.320
<v Speaker 2>bothered by that stuff.

1348
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 1>So you they're all this crazy stuff that you diminished

1349
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 1>your career at one point, all the accusations say all

1350
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 1>these things, but you still flourished and all those great

1351
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.480
<v Speaker 1>things that you've done. What is one personal accomplishment that

1352
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you would say sticks out above the rest? Like who

1353
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>made you who you are today?

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01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I mean I mean if I had

1355
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 2>to answer, if I had to answer, what came to

1356
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 2>my mind of like personal accomplishments that are like, you know.

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01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe your first big one that you're like that made

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01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you be able to have the business you know, Rolodex

1359
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that you do, the mindset that you do, you know,

1360
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 1>avenues that you do, where it's like, you know, there's

1361
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>something that always sticks out or maybe was like the

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01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 1>plateau of like you know, you're like I was meant

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01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 1>to do ABC or D.

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01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I I was homeless when I came out here, and

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01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I met a guy named Robert or Tura who had

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01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:27.079
<v Speaker 2>a company called College Music Video, and I begged him

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01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>for a job and he told me no, and I

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01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 2>told him, you know, if you hire me for three

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01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 2>weeks and I'm good. You know, my mom always told me,

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01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, outwork everyone around you and you become invaluable.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was taking a bus to work for him.

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01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:46.639
<v Speaker 2>I worked for three weeks and he, yeah, he gave

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01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 2>me the job. So once I was with him with

1374
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a job for you know, for a little while, I

1375
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:53.199
<v Speaker 2>told him, listen, I want to own half the company

1376
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and or else I'm going to create my own company.

1377
01:01:56.519 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Put you out of business in the most respectful way.

1378
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You believe in yourself, that's what you're gonna do, exactly.

1379
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And we ended up selling the company and making a

1380
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. And then you know, I did, I've

1381
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:09.679
<v Speaker 2>done a lot of crazy.

1382
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, did you go to school for

1383
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 1>business or did you just have that instilled in your heart,

1384
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like you say, you're from, you know, the East Coast grade, so.

1385
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even go to ninth grade. So I went

1386
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:21.159
<v Speaker 2>off in the in the world just to kind of

1387
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 2>see what it was about. It was, you know, you know,

1388
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I love my mom. I get along with my mom

1389
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 2>really well. My mom was definitely, uh not the biggest

1390
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 2>fan of it. She couldn't really do anything because no

1391
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 2>one could tell me what to do when I was younger,

1392
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, I was off doing whatever

1393
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I wanted.

1394
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you still live by that.

1395
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.440
<v Speaker 3>No, not really not, No, I'm bendable.

1396
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not as far as like you know, maybe is

1397
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what that is as harsh as that meant before. But

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01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you seem like a man who knows

1399
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:50.199
<v Speaker 1>what he wants and you're very You're standing your convictions,

1400
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that is very like respectable because

1401
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.760
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of men who really a stand

1402
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.519
<v Speaker 1>for what they believe and like actually have convictions for it.

1403
01:02:58.719 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'm definitely a.

1404
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Go you can see with what you're saying, like what

1405
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:04.800
<v Speaker 1>your words have action behind it. Without you, it's moving

1406
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:06.159
<v Speaker 1>from your seat means.

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01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I try to I try to be as is you know,

1408
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 2>like I said, that's just the way I was raised.

1409
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I was raised very you know, when you say something,

1410
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 2>you do it, you keep your word, you kind of

1411
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and and that's the mindset.

1412
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Like my mindset was I'm going to.

1413
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Get in and I'm going to do things like you

1414
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.119
<v Speaker 2>got to think about this, Like I was just having

1415
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.920
<v Speaker 2>a meeting with Elon Musk by myself and Elon Musk.

1416
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Did I did a deal with Elon Musk. I got

1417
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:29.440
<v Speaker 2>nominated for not me, but my movie got nominated for

1418
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Gold and Globe. Or my client who I found from

1419
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.920
<v Speaker 2>nothing just got nominated for two Grammys, or this, or that.

1420
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 2>I've done so many things that I brought a water

1421
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.400
<v Speaker 2>company together that Mark Wahlberg has right now, and did

1422
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he Aquahydrate and Brent Jones, the guy who was the

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01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess the CEO of the of the water company

1424
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I was involved with like three years, four years prior

1425
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to bringing it to him. I've done so many deals

1426
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 2>and so many things behind the scenes with so many people,

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01:03:58.239 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know which want to pick. Okay, I feel I

1429
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 1>see it. Yeah, I mean yeah, but that's awesome. I

1430
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I respect that.

1431
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that thing that I did

1432
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>early on with Collegemic video really set a precedence because

1433
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I was I was homeless. I was really screwed. I

1434
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.239
<v Speaker 2>was like literally taking a shower in a parking Garager

1435
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was staying on in the bathroom down there, taking a

1436
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 2>bus for about an hour and a half each way.

1437
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have any idea. I was homeless and then

1438
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I was working ten hour days. So and this is

1439
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 2>with the kids that I came out with, they were

1440
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.840
<v Speaker 2>busy getting high, getting drunk, hanging out with girls, partying,

1441
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't have any urgency.

1442
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Like yo, let me like get something together.

1443
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:41.599
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh, yeah, I'm.

1444
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Homeless, but I can go crash on someone's couch or

1445
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting high with some people and I'll stay over

1446
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 2>there for three days.

1447
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.

1448
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Copy done.

1449
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a boss's ball, so I can't be like that,

1450
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I got to be a little different. So yeah,

1451
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.559
<v Speaker 2>that to me was something that kind of stood out

1452
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 2>because it was also you know, I'd been told so

1453
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.880
<v Speaker 2>many times and probably deserved it.

1454
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.239
<v Speaker 3>When I was younger, I was, I was, you know,

1455
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 3>a piece of shit.

1456
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, I just I wasn't the best

1457
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 2>of the best, best by by any means. So a

1458
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have told me by you know, eighteen nineteen,

1459
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.239
<v Speaker 2>you'll be dead or you'll be in jail. So I

1460
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 2>really started to believe by eighteen I was gonna be

1461
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 2>dead or in jail.

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01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Like literally, I didn't think past eighteen.

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01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.559
<v Speaker 1>That's big. Yeah, So were you because of that where

1464
01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:24.639
<v Speaker 1>you're just living so recklessly you didn't care because you

1465
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 1>thought that in the back of your mind.

1466
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I did think that I would die before eighteen or nineteen.

1467
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I would live past it, So I

1468
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't care.

1469
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Interesting with all.

1470
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.000
<v Speaker 2>The drugs I did with this, I did that get

1471
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:34.800
<v Speaker 2>in trouble fight.

1472
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was doing I was look at you now,

1473
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it's really it's you know, it's persistency. It's consistency.

1474
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 1>It's knowing that you're more than what people think you are. Yeah,

1475
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.079
<v Speaker 1>and like just standing up again for what you believe

1476
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and your worth and knowing your worthiness when you walk

1477
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 1>into your room.

1478
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and not crumbling. And I almost did.

1479
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Though I'm not gonna lie like anybody who tells you

1480
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that going through some of that stuff that it's just

1481
01:05:57.559 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 2>a cakewalk.

1482
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Man, I was like, whoa, I.

1483
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Mean, but how could it. I mean, you've laid your

1484
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:04.880
<v Speaker 1>truth out, You've said, you know, the hardest things that

1485
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you've had to probably go through you currently in life,

1486
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and those are you know, big things that anybody would do.

1487
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Those things, So it's not a shameful thing. I think

1488
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that it's really respectable to say those things, because again,

1489
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is why we say to speak up, is because the

1490
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 1>more that we speak up in our in our situation,

1491
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 1>there's someone out there that relates to you, someone out

1492
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 1>there that's going through the same things. There's someone out

1493
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 1>there that could actually be like, oh, like, I'm not

1494
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the only one, and those to me is maybe maybe

1495
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.159
<v Speaker 1>even more farm fee between them the latter. But that's

1496
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.079
<v Speaker 1>more inspiring me to me than to just never say

1497
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:34.559
<v Speaker 1>it at all and then you don't help anybody.

1498
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I started posting stuff on my Instagram just on the story.

1499
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.679
<v Speaker 2>So many different girls got in touch with me and said, oh,

1500
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Melanie grabbed me and grabbed my boobs right here. And

1501
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.800
<v Speaker 2>this guy said, oh my god, I saw her a

1502
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:47.559
<v Speaker 2>little wasted, and and then she did this with this

1503
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.440
<v Speaker 2>guy and that guy, and like, so many people hit

1504
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 2>me up, and I'm like, wow, people really have been

1505
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:54.960
<v Speaker 2>affected in a negative way by her, And I tell them, listen,

1506
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 2>tell your story.

1507
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Closed mouths, don't get fat. I was told that by somebody,

1508
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's a lot true. All right, So we're

1509
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna play. I know we've talked about a lot of things,

1510
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but now we're gonna make us a little bit more fun.

1511
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 1>It's called truth with Texas. I'm not gonna ask you

1512
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the craziest questions, but I'm gonna ask you some questions

1513
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 1>in there.

1514
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 3>All right.

1515
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 1>So there's four aces. Each ace is a different type

1516
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of suit. Each different suit is a different type of question.

1517
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go through everyone and know a little bit

1518
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 1>more about you, Okay, Ace, don't drop it, Ace of Okay,

1519
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it is a naughty question. Yes, don't be alarmed. I

1520
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:31.800
<v Speaker 1>know you know you found out out what did porn

1521
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 1>before I got here. I know you still don't own

1522
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>a porn company or ever have. But I've been on

1523
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.519
<v Speaker 1>a couple. Do you like dirty talk?

1524
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1525
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I like like, that's very hard for you to answer.

1526
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Because dirty talk.

1527
01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, listen, So but from what side I guess is

1528
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 1>why I feel like you're being pensive?

1529
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 2>No, because see, dirty talk could be easily I don't know.

1530
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Some people like, oh, what's up, daddy and like that.

1531
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 2>That That to me is not and I don't want

1532
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:08.159
<v Speaker 2>to go a daddy talker. No, no, no, no.

1533
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Dirty talk to me is like you're talking about some

1534
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.400
<v Speaker 1>fucked up shit that you liked at, some kinky things

1535
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that you really like. You're going there to do some

1536
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:17.439
<v Speaker 1>things to do somethings.

1537
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, situational I like dirty situational talk.

1538
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, have you ever faked an orgasm? I think

1539
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you're smiling too. Not believe that that's happened at least once. Okay,

1540
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>So as a female, I never knew that this existed

1541
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>until like a year ago. I was having a conversation

1542
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.720
<v Speaker 1>with some of my male friends and they were like, yeah,

1543
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 1>guys do that a lot of the time.

1544
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what I don't know about all the time,

1545
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:49.720
<v Speaker 3>but I have before he's.

1546
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Saying, is they weren't saying like they were, but they're like,

1547
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it happens more time than you think. And he was like,

1548
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to because I was so fucked up

1549
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't I couldn't finish, so I just didn't

1550
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.239
<v Speaker 1>want to insult her, so I just acted like I did.

1551
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that happens, Like that's a real thing.

1552
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And he's like, I bet you're thinking about

1553
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:07.439
<v Speaker 1>all the people that like this never happened to me.

1554
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It's probably happened to me, but I don't really know.

1555
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah more than once, no, no, no, once or twice,

1556
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.640
<v Speaker 2>But like, like he said, it was me maybe a

1557
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:18.920
<v Speaker 2>little too much to drink something or whatever, and I

1558
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I'm not gonna come, and I just

1559
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>don't want to, like you know whatever, And oh I

1560
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:23.680
<v Speaker 2>just came.

1561
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:24.039
<v Speaker 3>And then done.

1562
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you faked it, Yeah, faked it, faked it

1563
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 1>all right. Biggest turn off.

1564
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Brain wise, I'm a sapio sexual like a mother. Okay, yeah,

1565
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:38.960
<v Speaker 2>brain brain stuff to me is it's my turn on.

1566
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 3>It's my turn on.

1567
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 1>What's what's the term you use? Because I say demisexual

1568
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and that means that I have to be mind stimulated

1569
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and sexually. But what is what did you say?

1570
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Sapio sexual?

1571
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So what is a sapio sexual?

1572
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Sapio sexual is kind of the same thing mental Okay, So.

1573
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what's the difference why it's two different words.

1574
01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 1>What's a dem I don't know.

1575
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 2>You should look into it. I don't know.

1576
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Are learning you're private? Al right? Next card? See it's

1577
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 1>not too bad. It's light ace of diamonds, all right.

1578
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Spicy question. Mmm, most embarrassing thing that's happened to you sexually?

1579
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you have one? There has to be.

1580
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 2>One that's happened embarrassing.

1581
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:32.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that's hard, or maybe it could be like the

1582
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 1>person it was, and maybe it's not your story but

1583
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:36.960
<v Speaker 1>their story, or something happened.

1584
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Embarrassing. No, nothing, Yeah, I don't know about embarrassing.

1585
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:44.600
<v Speaker 3>That's that's hard.

1586
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Have you ever been turned down for sex?

1587
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1588
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thrown up on someone during sex?

1589
01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 2>No?

1590
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Has never thrown up on you.

1591
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 3>Not thrown up on me.

1592
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But maybe a gag reflects what a little okay, yeah.

1593
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:05.159
<v Speaker 1>With a little little thing. Well okay, ever stayed in

1594
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 1>a relationship for sex only?

1595
01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1596
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, next card, I feel like I have to tippy

1597
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.079
<v Speaker 1>toe around him to question.

1598
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Speaker 3>It's why you can ask me anything.

1599
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool, Okay. Romantic? Would you consider yourself a romantic?

1600
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1601
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.319
<v Speaker 1>What's the most romantic thing you've ever done for a partner?

1602
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the most romantic, but you know,

1603
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean just all of my always romantic, pretty much

1604
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 2>always romantic. I mean obviously not over the top, but yeah,

1605
01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I'm a chef, so I cook

1606
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 2>very I'm very open with my emotions and my feelings, and.

1607
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I like, does that happen through your cooking?

1608
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Does what happened?

1609
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Like how you say you're open with your emotions? With

1610
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.279
<v Speaker 1>your with your partner. So if it cooks me something

1611
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to them like for them, like, is it like a

1612
01:11:57.680 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 1>love creation of food the same time or is.

1613
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 3>It no but different?

1614
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean the love creation of food is just you know,

1615
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean people love food, but no, just having a

1616
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 2>conversation like.

1617
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Talking to someone like Jamaican say like I make it

1618
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:11.319
<v Speaker 1>with love, Like that's what I mean. Like you knows

1619
01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>where it's like the intentions of it is it's supposed

1620
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to be like semi erotic or have done those things

1621
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 1>where because it was an occasion and it like set

1622
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the mood or the tone.

1623
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I know, I just like I.

1624
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Just like to cook.

1625
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm a pleaser. I'm a pleaser.

1626
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I like, what is your sign? Are you a Libra Taurus?

1627
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but but I'm a pleaser, so I like to please.

1628
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I get turned on by pleasing somebody, Okay, So if

1629
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:35.880
<v Speaker 2>if I know that I'm pleasing them, it really it

1630
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 2>really turns me on.

1631
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 1>What's the most difficult dish you can cook?

1632
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I mean I can cook French, Italian, Spanish, you

1633
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:48.479
<v Speaker 2>know the most difficult what's a difficult dish? I don't know.

1634
01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't cook. I mean I cook, but I'm not

1635
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 1>a chef, so I don't know. But the thing that

1636
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:56.039
<v Speaker 1>you've like tooken the most time to like make a

1637
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 1>presentation for somebody, maybe like the hours within and it

1638
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.199
<v Speaker 1>takes to do it, or something that you would normally cook,

1639
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know your chefs skills. Yeah, because we're

1640
01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:08.119
<v Speaker 1>asking her a privatize.

1641
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you know I have a restaurant, so

1642
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I you know it was Italian, it was done in

1643
01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:16.600
<v Speaker 2>West Hollywood, and that was an Italian menu.

1644
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you cook any more?

1645
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I cook all the time.

1646
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you don't have a restaurant anymore, do you know?

1647
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a restaurant anymore. Okay, but every I

1648
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>mean like I'm cooking every anyone who knows me, they

1649
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 2>come over my house. I cook amazing dinners. I'm always

1650
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 2>cooking myself dinner. My daughter rarely ever gets any food

1651
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:36.039
<v Speaker 2>from takeaway or anything.

1652
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm always cooking her. You know, if there's anyone.

1653
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Special in my life, Okay, so then not the most difficult,

1654
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what's the most what's the most common? What's your like

1655
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:44.920
<v Speaker 1>go to meal that if someone's going and you know

1656
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be like, oh.

1657
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just simple maybe maybe like a bronzino with you know, olives,

1658
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 2>capers of white wine, sauce, just very very steam spin.

1659
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:01.000
<v Speaker 2>It's very healthy whatever whatever, trying to.

1660
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Do that perfect date night. Do you have one.

1661
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Perfect date night.

1662
01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Or you're not cooking the brands? You know?

1663
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, perfect date night is that's just good conversation.

1664
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Good conversation turns me on, and then you know obviously

1665
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.880
<v Speaker 2>from there, if if it's, if it's if it's a

1666
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 2>mutual feeling that.

1667
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You have sex on the first date.

1668
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have to, but yeah I'm not.

1669
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:27.800
<v Speaker 1>If it happens, it happens, and we're all adults. Taking

1670
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a call during.

1671
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Sex, Yeah, I've done that a lot.

1672
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Why and do you keep going or do you

1673
01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 1>stop the mood?

1674
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:40.880
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, I'll be like, let's say that

1675
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.560
<v Speaker 2>we're having sex and like I don't want to.

1676
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Talk on speaker turns you on?

1677
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:47.560
<v Speaker 2>No, But if I have to take the call, I

1678
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 2>take it and the other person sees that I'm talking,

1679
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and and I think that girls get a little like

1680
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.000
<v Speaker 2>turned on and they try to make you sound like

1681
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you're getting fucked where they're like and they you a

1682
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:59.359
<v Speaker 2>little harder we're like, yeah, okay, so I'll call you back,

1683
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 2>and the girl gets turned.

1684
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you both get my slay. So if

1685
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 1>someone answered, if it only happened to me one time,

1686
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I was definitely upset. But if in this situation like that,

1687
01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I definitely would make it to an uncomfortable situation where

1688
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:12.760
<v Speaker 1>if like they didn't know something was happening, they didn't

1689
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:14.319
<v Speaker 1>even are you working out, sir?

1690
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly? What's what's wrong?

1691
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly?

1692
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Girls the guys like, are you winded?

1693
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1694
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:19.560
<v Speaker 2>You winded?

1695
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Naked? Or lingerie?

1696
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 2>M naked?

1697
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Favorite place to be kissed?

1698
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.600
<v Speaker 2>My mouth?

1699
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you wanted to say something, but deal

1700
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:36.840
<v Speaker 1>breakers in a relationship.

1701
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.640
<v Speaker 2>A deal breaker if you can't compromise.

1702
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how long is the longest you've ever gone without sex?

1703
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Couple months?

1704
01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Couple like three, couple like six?

1705
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Now like three?

1706
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:55.239
<v Speaker 3>About three months?

1707
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right, last card? It is a spade. So no,

1708
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:05.479
<v Speaker 1>it's not a spade. It's a club. Kinky question. I

1709
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're a very kinky man, but you're only

1710
01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:14.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me what private, certain things private? All right?

1711
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Ever been in an orgy?

1712
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:16.680
<v Speaker 3>No?

1713
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Any fetishes do you have like a foot fetish, a

1714
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 1>big booty fetish, a big tit fetish.

1715
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Just none, none.

1716
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>You're just a sexual being being. You're not like Christian Gree.

1717
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 1>You have like a sex dungeon in your house somewhere

1718
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like nothing nothing, No, I don't know. You're you're smiling

1719
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and turning red all the same. You have a drawer

1720
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like is there yeah, yeah.

1721
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean no, yeah, you can have your little

1722
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, your little your little you know, your little

1723
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:45.520
<v Speaker 2>drawer whatever, you know, your toys, this.

1724
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.560
<v Speaker 1>That we don't know whatever. That's why we're asking.

1725
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like you know, it never hurts to have

1726
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.000
<v Speaker 2>some accessories.

1727
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Around, you know.

1728
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been walked in on masturbating?

1729
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1730
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you keep going?

1731
01:16:57.720 --> 01:16:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Fuck?

1732
01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 3>No? It was by a family, remember, and I was young.

1733
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:05.239
<v Speaker 1>We don't want that ever. Had a partner too kinky

1734
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 1>for you, Yes.

1735
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And not a partner but a girl I met.

1736
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:11.800
<v Speaker 1>What was the what.

1737
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Was the She was just too o d all the time,

1738
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:15.319
<v Speaker 2>like just too over the top.

1739
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It was just like there was no.

1740
01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Just wanted to dick all the time. She just wanted

1741
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:23.119
<v Speaker 2>everything to like everything was just like too much like

1742
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.079
<v Speaker 2>choke this fat e up but like everything was twenty

1743
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:27.720
<v Speaker 2>four seven it was.

1744
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, we just like can we cut off?

1745
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1746
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Can we cuddle like watch a girly movie and cry

1747
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Speaker 2>together or something?

1748
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:33.800
<v Speaker 1>So do you like to cuddle?

1749
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a poster.

1750
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I like it, but you're a side piece, so like,

1751
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:39.479
<v Speaker 1>do side piece cuddle?

1752
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And my definition of sidepiece you can cuddle.

1753
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 1>So there's a definition. Can you explain to private talk

1754
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 1>with the side peace definition is so I mean just for.

1755
01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 2>A person like me specifically. Yeah, So I'm I'm everything

1756
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.359
<v Speaker 2>that your man can be. So I'm I'm affectionate, loving,

1757
01:17:56.840 --> 01:17:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I got your back. I'm going to try to help

1758
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you out in all possible ways for you to your

1759
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:05.159
<v Speaker 2>dream to go there, elevate you, we could travel, we

1760
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:07.560
<v Speaker 2>can you know, amazing sex stuff.

1761
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 1>You know it lost sounds like boyfriend material. Where's the

1762
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>side piece? Like what's that? What's the kicker? What's the kicker?

1763
01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 1>That are like, oh yes, you mother fuckerr because this

1764
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.319
<v Speaker 1>is a type of situation that women are like, yeah,

1765
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you're great, but fuck you.

1766
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, because that allows you to have your

1767
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:25.800
<v Speaker 2>freedom and do whatever you want to go.

1768
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're talking about.

1769
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:28.960
<v Speaker 3>What is the Yeah, it allows the girl to have

1770
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:29.680
<v Speaker 3>their freedom.

1771
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but women like freedom.

1772
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:33.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she can have a freedoms, she can date

1773
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 2>whoever she wants. There's no no.

1774
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:39.079
<v Speaker 1>The exclusivity is what makes the side piece, is what

1775
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're saying.

1776
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.720
<v Speaker 3>And also you know, it's also kind.

1777
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Of like it's like it was a new song. I

1778
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:49.239
<v Speaker 1>think it was like it was just like I don't know,

1779
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like multa and like twenty months savages, like

1780
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:55.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're lying, it's something about if you're because it

1781
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're having like relationships sex but not having

1782
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:04.039
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. So it's like fining about pussy you don't have.

1783
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't get exactly the words, but I'll because, okay,

1784
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:06.640
<v Speaker 1>but you.

1785
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't have to answer to each other and in regards

1786
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to what you're doing or where you're at, or be

1787
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:13.000
<v Speaker 2>accountable to each other.

1788
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 1>So there just no commitment.

1789
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:16.039
<v Speaker 2>There's no commitment.

1790
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair.

1791
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1792
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:19.039
<v Speaker 1>I feel like again it's like a lot of people

1793
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think that that's a bad thing and they say side

1794
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 1>peace whatever. I think that it's just a lot of people.

1795
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.279
<v Speaker 1>As long as you communicate diect.

1796
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.079
<v Speaker 2>So you say that up front, there's nothing wrong with it.

1797
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:28.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you lead someone into it and then but.

1798
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 1>That's saying the leading up to. So it's like if

1799
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:32.399
<v Speaker 1>you were being like, yeah, I'm gonna be the great

1800
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:34.479
<v Speaker 1>thing whatever, but you're never gonna be my wayfriend, Ye,

1801
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 1>then that's what I'm saying. It's like that, what's the kicker?

1802
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:39.319
<v Speaker 1>There's always something, But I feel like as an adult,

1803
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.079
<v Speaker 1>you either know who you want to spend your time

1804
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:43.319
<v Speaker 1>with or you don't, and then you you navigate those

1805
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 1>things because we're all busy people, but we make time

1806
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:46.479
<v Speaker 1>for what we want to make time for.

1807
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:48.319
<v Speaker 2>That is the truth. But I feel like mine is

1808
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:50.439
<v Speaker 2>the reverse. So I go into it with that m.

1809
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:53.239
<v Speaker 2>The other person would have to agree to that in

1810
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.079
<v Speaker 2>advance before we hook up or do anything hookup wise.

1811
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Once we're doing that, then if we're vibing so good,

1812
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:02.000
<v Speaker 2>then we can start thinking about locking
