1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's Talk Pets. 2 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Hello, cat levers, Welcome to counter Tude. I'm your show host, Michelbourne, 3 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,000 and what a great show I have for you today. 4 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:35,840 I have the author of this really interesting book about cats, 5 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:39,479 and I cannot wait to introduce you to her and 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,560 talk about the book, and we'll be right back. 7 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:47,799 Speaker 3: Take a bite out of your competition. Advertise your business 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,119 with an ad in pet Life Radio podcast and radio shows. 9 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:54,079 There is no other pet related media that is as 10 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,200 large and reaches more pet parents and pet lovers than 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,200 pet Life Radio with over seven million months listeners. 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She 20 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,959 is the author of Fella and Django, a Vegas velvet Caper. 21 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Welcome Ellen, thank you for having me. 22 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:51,319 Speaker 5: I'm thrilled to be here. 23 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,599 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to have you on. I love books, I'm 24 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:58,480 a gracious reader, and I love cats, so what better 25 00:01:58,599 --> 00:02:02,799 you know? So let's talk about their buck. Can you 26 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 first tell us who are Bella and Django? 27 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 6: Well, Bella is my real life cat. She is a 28 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:11,400 gorgeous Maine coon. She came into my life first. And 29 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:15,680 Django he's fictional. He came about because I've known lots 30 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,120 of men in Las Vegas in the gambling business. 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: And if you look at the cover of the book. 32 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 6: You know there's Jangle with a leather coat and dark sunglasses, 33 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,199 so that's where he came from. 34 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 5: He's fictitious. 35 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,719 Speaker 6: But Bella, she's absolutely real and she's here. 36 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 5: With me now. 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: My first cat was Dennis and he found me and 38 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:35,520 he's part Maine coon. I'd never had him tested but 39 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,919 from markings and they say they're the dog of cats, 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,680 dog like cats, which was good for me because I 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,319 had dogs pire. I love main coons and main coon mixes. 42 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,000 I think they're amazing cats. 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: She is. She's a glorious sixteen pound, fourteen year old goddess. 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,639 And her full name, just in case you're curious, is 45 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:56,599 Empress Bella Rose. 46 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,159 Speaker 2: Oh, Empress Bella Rose. How fancy she's small? From ain 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Kuhn then sixteen pounds? 48 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't think she will to me. 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,840 She's not small. 50 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,879 Speaker 6: She's the biggest cat I've ever had, and I've had 51 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,120 cats my whole life. 52 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: We have another cat, we have two others that they're 53 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:13,479 just big. I've seen pictures and Maine coons that are 54 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,639 like four feet long, So I don't know. My main 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,919 coon is not that big. He's about fourteen thirteen pounds. 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,439 He's not too big. Okay, So let's talk about Bella 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,280 and Django. Did you start with Bella and then think 58 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,800 I have to add a guy for her? Is that 59 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:30,479 where Dango came about? 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,719 Speaker 6: Well, I've been writing fiction stories for a while, and 61 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:36,360 i've been doing cat stories, and so I have pussy 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,719 cat messages. I have a lot of cat stories, and 63 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:41,319 Bella has been the muse, and I thought, you know what, 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Bella deserves to be the star because she's the one 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,919 who's living with me now. So I came up with 66 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,560 this idea, a cozy mystery, and then Django had to 67 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:54,120 be part of it. So as a writer, ideas unfold 68 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:57,719 one after another, and since I live in Las Vegas, 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,719 that had to come about. I lived in Maui and 70 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,599 I visited like Lenai Cat Sanctuary where that's so, the 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,759 Lnai Cat Sanctuary is a real, magnificent sanctuary. And I've 72 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,599 been there three or four times to take the ferry 73 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:16,759 over from Maui. It is so amazing, Michelle. 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,519 Speaker 5: It's clean. 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 6: You get there and you don't know what to expect, 76 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:22,519 and then you walk in and there's all these cats 77 00:04:22,519 --> 00:04:24,759 and they greet you at the gate. So when I 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,319 was imagining Bella as a princess and where she was born, 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,199 I thought, what better place for this fictional story to 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,959 begin than this sanctuary. So that's where the idea came from. 81 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,639 Speaker 2: That is really cool. That's amazing. Their story starts at Bellini, 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,920 but that's where Bella is from. 83 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 6: No, well, the fictional Bella, the fiction. 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,079 Speaker 2: No Bella only Okay, but you okay, so you added 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,399 it in. I get it. You added theml Ani Cat 86 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:53,839 sanct You. I think that's wonderful because it's a great 87 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:55,560 place for people to learn about. 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can adopt people, you know, cats from your 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,519 home and they send you pictures. 90 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: It's amazing. 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,199 Speaker 6: But as I say, when I lived in Maui, I 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,199 went there many times. Now I live in Las Vegas. 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,399 So Bella real life Bella came from a shelter here 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,279 and one of my very close friends had to rehome 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,319 this gorgeous cat, the companion who Bella lived with, Roomy, 96 00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:21,399 He passed on and Marcia could no longer care for 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,040 her alone. She was traveling too much, and because Bella 98 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:28,439 is so beautiful, so many people wanted her, Marcia wouldn't 99 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:32,360 give her away. And then finally what happened, Michelle, It 100 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:36,720 was for me a Christmas miracle. My beautiful cat, Princess 101 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:41,000 Tonkin unexpectedly died a week before Christmas eight years ago, 102 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,480 and I was devastated, as you all know what that's like, 103 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,120 losing a cat, losing a pet. And then Marcia said, 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,160 you know, she was traveling and did I want to 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,279 babysit Bella? 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,319 Speaker 5: And she came here. 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,639 Speaker 6: She strutted in like she belonged here. She hopped to 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,879 the top of the castle where Tonkin used to live. 109 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,639 That was Tonkin's place, as if she sensed her, and 110 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 that she was to take over and help heal my heart. 111 00:06:07,439 --> 00:06:10,040 So that's the story of the real life Bella. 112 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:14,079 Speaker 2: That is incredible. I'd love when I guess this might 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,160 sound a little odd to people, but like the universe 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,360 knows you need something and it comes into. 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: Your life absolutely because there's the wishing, prayer is in 116 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,079 our hearts. 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wishing for this. 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 6: And then Marcia needed someone and she was already. Marcia 119 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,759 had been here and actually met me with Tonkin and 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,240 she asked me what I want to adopt Bella. I said, no, 121 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,959 Tonkin will never allow another cat. She was a Tonkin 122 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,759 came to me and MAUI. She was another rescue. We 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,279 moved here together to Las Vegas, but she, unlike Bella, 124 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:47,439 was not social and wasn't friendly, so I didn't dare 125 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:53,000 bring Bella into our home. And then suddenly, devastating Tonkin's gone, 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Bella moves in the universe filled that wish that my 127 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,480 heart needed a week before Christmas. Eight years so here 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,920 we are now two seen women living together, Bella and 129 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:05,439 Ellen in Las Vegas. 130 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Wonderful. Now you also your book you just released, also 131 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:14,279 the audiobook portion, tell me about the narration because you 132 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,879 felt that was kind of special and it kind of 133 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,600 brought Bella and Django more to life than even you 134 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,480 know the hard copy book. 135 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 6: Well, yes, you know, as the writer, I searched for 136 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,040 someone and I found this lovely woman, Shannon, and I'm 137 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,199 telling you, she gave so much love, and every time 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,879 I listened, I thought, oh my god, this is so cute. 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,639 You know, the little parts where you know she would 140 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:41,519 have Bella speaking because Bella is sassy and she's you know, 141 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,519 the queen of everything, and then Django has his deep voice, 142 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,560 and then the humans in the story. It just added 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,680 so much more magic. So for me as the author, 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,279 it was very special and I'm so glad I found 145 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:57,399 this woman. So anyone interested, you can listen to the audio, 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,319 or you can read the book, or you can do 147 00:07:59,399 --> 00:07:59,959 them together. 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful. Let's talk about the cats because they're very different. 149 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:08,600 So you've already disclosed. You know, Bella's kind of sassy, 150 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,480 and she's also bold and curious and emotionally open. And 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,079 Django is very different. He seems to me more like 152 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,279 the dark, sultry, you know kind of cat. 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, you're right. Because remember in the story, 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Bella grows up in Paradise, so even though she's in 155 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:32,240 a shelter, she doesn't know it's a shelter. The cats 156 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:35,679 in Lanni think they live in paradise, so she already 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,600 comes from a place that's soft and tender and warm. 158 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 And Django he was an alley cat. He lived on 159 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,200 the streets of Las Vegas, and then he's adopted by 160 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,159 a man named Max who owns the Gambler's Bookstore and 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,279 in moves Django and becomes the celebrity cat. So when 162 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,360 people are in Vegas visiting or all the you know, 163 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,559 the people who work in casinos in they're there looking 164 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,320 for old books. They go to the Gambler's Bookstore, which 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,879 is a real place. And so my close friend who's 166 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:10,320 worked in the gambling business for years, had told me 167 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,960 all about the Gambler's Bookstore, and he this man I've 168 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:17,200 known who's worked in the casinos. He reminded me of 169 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:20,759 Django because he's tall and dark and handsome and has 170 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:23,279 shown up in my life many times with a leather 171 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,840 jacket and the dark glasses. So, you know, as a writer, 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,919 the stories evolve from a mix of our real life 173 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,679 and a mix of fantasy. 174 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,279 Speaker 2: You know, I've always wanted to write a book that's 175 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,279 still on my bucket list, and the more I talk 176 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:41,039 to authorities, the more excited I get about this is 177 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,440 possible because it's so interesting how you create characters and 178 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,080 all of that. Let's talk about cats and bookstores because 179 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:51,919 it seems to be a theme. There's anytime I read 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,279 a book and there's a bookstore involved. Most likely seventy 181 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,159 percent of the time, there's also cats. What do you 182 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:01,320 think it is between cats and bookstore that makes them 183 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,679 such a great match. Maybe because they're quiet? 184 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:06,279 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's because. 185 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 6: They add a charm to something, you know, that's made 186 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,639 out of paper and dust, and you know, they bring life. 187 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,080 And so there they are sitting there among the books 188 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,799 and people can often speak to them. You know how 189 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:23,879 cats allow us to imagine they're communicating back with us. 190 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,799 So say you're in a bookstore and you go up 191 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,960 and you say, oh, I'm interested in this book, and 192 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,639 then you look at the cat and say, what do 193 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,519 you think? So we imagine, we imagine that the cats 194 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,159 are either saying you know what we want them to believe. 195 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,399 And in this bookstore, Django, he's the presence that fills the. 196 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:44,279 Speaker 5: Store with life. 197 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 6: A lot of people come just because of him and 198 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:50,200 the owner Max, who gets in trouble in there. He's 199 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,759 about to lose his store. It's because of Django, who 200 00:10:53,799 --> 00:10:57,080 becomes a detective along with Bella, that they're able to 201 00:10:57,159 --> 00:11:01,159 figure out who's really the thief trying to deal the bookstore. 202 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,639 Speaker 2: Wow. Is this part of a series? 203 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: It will be a series, But this is the first 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,320 Bella and Django book, So this is number one. As 205 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,200 I say, the previous cat story was a mix of 206 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 fantasy and sci fi. It's a longer book. It's called 207 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:20,279 pussy Cat Messages, Starborn Descent, and it's a lot more wild. 208 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,399 The cats travel in spaceships, they go to Venus. The 209 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,320 woman they live with falls in love with a man 210 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,039 from Venus, and then they have to go live there 211 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,279 and they have all kinds of wild adventures. That is 212 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,559 more leaning towards sci fi and fantasy. This book was 213 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:40,679 more a cozy mystery with a beginning, a middle, and 214 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,720 an end. Here's what happens, here's the thief, and here's 215 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:47,480 the how they get caught, and the cats are key 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,320 in catching them. So they're very different. But cats again 217 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,159 are the main characters in both of these two recent books. 218 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,320 I've written lots of other books. I have a memoir 219 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,639 and well, I don't know if this is really relevant, 220 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,399 but since you're interested in writing, there was a platform 221 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,480 on Amazon that was called Vella v E l LA 222 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:13,039 where you would publish serial stories. Michelle I wrote thirteen books, 223 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,919 cat stories, fantasy books, sci fi, all kinds of stuff, 224 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,759 and then Amazon decided it wasn't profitable enough and they 225 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:24,240 closed it and all of our books disappeared. So some 226 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,399 of the books are now being taken back to life, 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,720 like Pussycat Messages. 228 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,279 Speaker 5: But this book was. 229 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: Totally new and centered totally around Bella Django and what's 230 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:40,200 going on between Lanai, between Paradise and how that arrives 231 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:41,840 in Las Vegas. 232 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we have to take a sharp break and we'll 233 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:44,799 be right back. 234 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,519 Speaker 1: Talk to the pot. 235 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 6: Hi didn't Amy Shure. 236 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Jane Lynch. 237 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: This is Mandy Boyne. 238 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 6: Hi there, I'm Kate Walerch. 239 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 5: This is Catherine Tige. 240 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: There's only one station that gives you the scoop on 241 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:01,759 wagging tongues and tails and who's walking hill in rent 242 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,559 in tencil Down pet Life Radio, the tail Wagger. 243 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk past. 244 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 7: Let's pet Life Radio, wet Life Radio, Petlfradio dot Com. 245 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, we're talking to Ellen Laura. She is 246 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:30,240 the author of Bella and Dango, a Vegas Velvet Caper. 247 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,879 So we talked a lot about the cats. I do 248 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,039 have one more question. We talked about what Django, you know, 249 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,919 would look like. He gave everybody a good picture with 250 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,799 his velvet jacket and I think he has if I 251 00:13:42,879 --> 00:13:46,480 remember correctly, sunglasses and he's a real smoky kind of 252 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:51,240 you know character. Now, Bella in the book, what would 253 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,480 she be like? Sassy? What would she wear? 254 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:56,759 Speaker 6: Well, in the book, she's just herself. She doesn't have 255 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:00,840 a costume on she because she's so beautiful, the main coon. 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,120 And in the story we learn that Bella came from 257 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,200 a home from a very wealthy woman who became ill 258 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,159 and could no longer keep her when she was a 259 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,600 tiny kitten. And so she's a pure bread So even 260 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,960 though she arrives to live at the Lunai Sanctuary, she 261 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:21,240 is a pure bred Maine coon with the beautiful rough 262 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:24,240 and so she's so beautiful she doesn't need a costume, 263 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:28,759 whereas Max, you know, lives with this Django and Django 264 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 is there always with the dark sunglasses and the leather 265 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,960 jacket because that's his personality. That's what you would imagine 266 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 a cat who'd come from the alleys and then he 267 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,679 becomes a celebrity in a bookstore. 268 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,559 Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of twists and turns. So one thing 269 00:14:44,679 --> 00:14:48,600 about you know, cat livers is they sometimes when they're reading, 270 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,080 they're very especially you know, guess cat folks, we want authenticity. 271 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,440 So how authentic would you say the feline behavior is 272 00:14:58,279 --> 00:14:59,039 in this story? 273 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:01,639 Speaker 6: Well, of course, or it is fictional. But as I 274 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:04,039 was writing it, I had to go in different places 275 00:15:04,039 --> 00:15:06,919 and edit. So in the beginning of the story, Bella 276 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:10,480 comes from Lenai. So she lands in the Las Vegas 277 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:15,279 airport and by some strange mishap, her carrier case door 278 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,080 is open. So there she is in the Las Vegas 279 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:21,960 airport inside this carrier, crouched down, and there's all the 280 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,519 chiming of slot machines and people and suitcases rolling, and 281 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:28,559 the story has. 282 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,399 Speaker 5: To move forward. So Bella leaves the case. 283 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: And she's then rescued by Max. 284 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: Well how's that going to happen? 285 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 6: How is anyone going to believe that a cat has 286 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,600 enough audacity to leave her cage and walk around in 287 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:44,799 a noisy airport. So as an author, I started thinking 288 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,200 about it, and well, I will go back and create 289 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,799 a backstory where when Bella was on Lenai and she 290 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,159 first arrived, she was shy, but the older cats gave 291 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,320 her instructions and they said to her, Bella, if you 292 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,720 want to be adopted, if you want to be chosen, 293 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,440 you can never show your fear. You can never show 294 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:09,360 that you're afraid. You need to lift your head and 295 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:13,440 walk ahead. So by adding that little piece of the backstory, 296 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:16,159 then it made a little bit more sense of how 297 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,759 a cat could actually be brave enough to walk through 298 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:20,480 an airport. 299 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:24,639 Speaker 2: That is a great explanation, and I think it will 300 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:28,639 help readers to understand why things happen in books, and 301 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:33,159 especially why things happen in your book, and understand Bellamore, 302 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,279 what is your personal opinion when you read books, because 303 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,519 you know, you're an author, so your viewpoint is way 304 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:43,519 different than mine. But when you read books and they're 305 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:47,519 like cat you know, cozy mysteries, and there's just pieces 306 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:48,440 that don't connect. 307 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Well. 308 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:49,879 Speaker 2: You know. 309 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,759 Speaker 6: One of the things that I've come to as an author, 310 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:55,720 regardless of whether I'm reading a cat story or reading fiction, 311 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:58,320 because I've been reading books, you know, from great fiction 312 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,159 writers forever side fantasy, and then from the famous fiction writers. 313 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,880 I never want to be critical to another author, so 314 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,880 I do my best to imagine what they were going through, 315 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,160 why they you know, why they wrote it the way 316 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,880 they did. And for me, especially if I'm reading a 317 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,039 cozy cat story, if it makes me laugh a little 318 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:20,839 bit and it makes the cat more real, I guess, 319 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,559 because I am an author and I know how difficult 320 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,319 this can be, I'm a lot more generous with what 321 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,160 I'm able to give. But you know, thinking about that, Michelle, 322 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:33,599 when I wrote that other book that is, you know, 323 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,160 it lives at the borders of fantasy and sci fi, 324 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:39,400 I had some criticism of, well, how is this even 325 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,400 possible that, you know, in one chapter the cats are 326 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,559 living in Las Vegas, and then they're on a spaceship, 327 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:48,240 and then they're in Tibet, you know, and then they're 328 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:52,359 in Venus. How is this all happening? So my imagination being. 329 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: That's what is Yeah, as you're saying that, I was 330 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:59,039 about to say, it's called imagination, but then you said 331 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,599 your imagination, and so right. 332 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,759 Speaker 6: That's what we use our imagination. And you know, one 333 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:06,839 of the things if you ever begin to write a book. 334 00:18:06,839 --> 00:18:09,160 I'd be so glad to support you in any way. 335 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,079 Speaker 5: But you know, as we go. 336 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 6: Along, we use our imaginations and we make things up 337 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,720 and then we go back and say, Okay, this doesn't work. 338 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 5: What can I add? 339 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 6: Because as a as an author, what you're thinking about 340 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,359 is how is this going to land for the reader? 341 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,880 Is it going to touch their heart? Is it going 342 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,799 to make them feel tears? Are they going to think 343 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:30,920 of a cat they loved? Are they going to think 344 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,319 of someone they loved dearly and now they're no longer there. 345 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,559 So that's what the author is doing. They're tuning in 346 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:41,319 the best they can, trying to imagine what the reader 347 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,759 would like to feel. Because let's face it, what do 348 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,279 books and movies do, Michelle. They transport us out of 349 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:50,799 this world where sometimes we don't like what's going on 350 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,559 in the world. Yes, your reality, So we want to 351 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,960 We don't want to totally escape, but we want to 352 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,920 We want our attention on something that offers us more tenderness, 353 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:05,599 more hope, and something that makes us smile even in 354 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,920 light of where there's a darkness. 355 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,839 Speaker 2: So right on, absolutely, Now let's talk about cats, because 356 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,920 you know this book is all about cats. You have 357 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,640 a cat, you know, Princess Bella. What do you think 358 00:19:20,039 --> 00:19:24,279 that people most misunderstand about cats. 359 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 6: Well, if you're a cat owner, then hopefully you don't 360 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,079 misunderstand a lot. You come to understand each one is unique. 361 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,759 I've had cats forever, you know, and I'm in my 362 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,160 seventies now, so each one is different, and you have 363 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,119 to tune into what's unique about that cat. As I said, 364 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,640 the one who came before Bella, she was not friendly. 365 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: When I was dating Michelle. 366 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,319 Speaker 6: She would get on the chair across from the sofa 367 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,720 and turn her back to us until the man left. Oh, 368 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:54,359 I know, it was very comical. She was like, I 369 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,200 don't like him, whysey here? This is our house. Bella, 370 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:00,319 on the other hand, she loves visitors, She loves me, men, 371 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,440 she loves anyone who gives her attention. So I think 372 00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:07,039 what people have to understand about cats is the same 373 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:09,880 thing they have to understand about us. If I meet you, 374 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,799 I need to tune into who you are as Michelle, 375 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,079 not what I would project onto you. And it's the 376 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,599 same for animals, whether it's a cat, a dog. And 377 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,440 if you haven't lived with a cat, you know, I 378 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,240 have lots of friends who are authors who don't like cats. 379 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,079 And you know what, I've always been mystified. I think 380 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:32,039 to myself, women, it's okay if men maybe don't, but 381 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:37,519 they are the embodiment of sensuality. They are the embodiment 382 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,200 of pride. And you know, this is how we need 383 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,319 to be treated as women. It's unimaginable to me how 384 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,680 women don't respond to cats, but we know there are 385 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,160 many who don't. So I think in order to really 386 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,400 feel into what a cat is like, or any animal 387 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:57,359 is like, you need to just be present and watch 388 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,359 and listen and don't project all of your needs onto them. 389 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Very true, and you have to understand the cat and cats. 390 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,359 There's another saying, and people have said this many many times. 391 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,079 Cats are not small dogs. Cats are cats. So all 392 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,319 three of mine have very different, you know, personalities, and 393 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,880 they take a little longer than dogs to figure out 394 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,119 their personalities. You have to like learn about them, but 395 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,519 they will let you know you get too close or 396 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:28,799 do something they don't like you. Get a little swipe, 397 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,839 Get a little swipe. 398 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, think of the things that are popular 399 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,599 in the world now. Everybody needs to set boundaries. Don't 400 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,480 let people in your life who don't bring you good energy? 401 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 5: Will who knows all about that? Cats? 402 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 6: Yes, of course, you know. If you're not bringing good 403 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:46,240 energy to a cat, they're out the door. They're going 404 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:48,880 to go hide under the bed. So you know, cats 405 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,400 can teach us so much about life, how to have dignity. 406 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,640 Let's face it, cats don't always want to show up 407 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,200 in wine and show their wounds to everybody. They want 408 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,119 to be dignified. They'll go lick them and then come 409 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,359 back out when they look beautiful again. So I think 410 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960 they're just magnificent beings. 411 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Mystical beings. So let's talk about the characters. While we 412 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,440 have a few minutes left of Bella and Dango. Which 413 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,839 one would be most likely to knock your I don't know, 414 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,079 gorgeous candle off the shelf? 415 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,759 Speaker 6: Well in fiction, I think it would be Bella in 416 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,599 real life because Bella was raised by a woman who 417 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,400 was much more disciplined than I. Bella is the only 418 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,880 cat I've had Michelle who never knocks anything down. She 419 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,279 doesn't climb on counters. She learned from her first home 420 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,480 how to behave well, so she's carried that over Now. Django, 421 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,359 he might just watch and wait. So I don't know, 422 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,839 but I think Bella in the fictional world, she definitely 423 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,240 knocks something down if it didn't please her at all. 424 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so, hey, since you're in Vegas, and everybody when 425 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,119 they think of Vegas, and I've been a few times, 426 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:01,599 think of I'm not a big gambler, risk adverse, but 427 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:03,680 you know, they think of gambling, but then they think 428 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:09,039 of cocktails. So what would be Bella and Django's signature 429 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,880 cocktail if they were humans in Vegas? 430 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 6: Well, I think that you know, he'd have something that 431 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,440 was dark and smoky, maybe with kognac right, and maybe 432 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,359 just something straight. I don't even know if he'd want 433 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,319 anything mixed. And Bella she'd probably want something that had 434 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,160 a pretty little umbrella that would remind her of paradise, 435 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,279 you know, one of those drinks that you get in Hawaii. So, 436 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,279 you know, talking about Vegas, Michelle, I lived here years ago, 437 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,839 and I actually worked in the casino as a cigarette girl. 438 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,640 So it's a long past part of my life, but 439 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,720 I know that part of Vegas and I've been there now. 440 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,079 I've never had an interest in gambling, but I've always 441 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,559 had friends who are professional poker players work in the casinos, 442 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,720 and so here I am today and I live out 443 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,720 in an area that's called Lake Claus, Vegas and Henderson. 444 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,000 It's about thirty minutes from the glamour of the strip. 445 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:05,880 I never go to the casinos Bella and I live 446 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,119 a very quiet life. But you're right, you know, Vegas 447 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,720 has this mix of glamour and mystery, and I wanted 448 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:15,880 to bring that into the story. That's why I added 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,960 a part about the film where Jingo in the story 450 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,559 he's watching the film to catch a thief, because it 451 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:27,160 captures the glamour of Las Vegas. Here we are with 452 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,240 a man who's handsome and gorgeous, Carrie Grant, and we 453 00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:35,000 have Grace Kelly. So I thought that somewhat embodied what 454 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:38,599 the cats would appreciate and what our readers would find interesting. 455 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: Well, as you're saying this, I was thinking, when you're 456 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,079 talking about Vegas, I thought, well, it isn't known as 457 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,720 sin city for nothing, but there are a lot of 458 00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:50,000 beautiful parts of it. You know too, It's not just 459 00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:51,079 the strip. 460 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,079 Speaker 6: You're right, But you know, years ago I went to 461 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,119 a concert maybe two three years ago with Lady Gaga 462 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,559 and it was Halloween. So there she was why and 463 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,440 you know, and she said to everybody, people, this is Vegas. 464 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,440 If you didn't know what you were going to get 465 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,839 at this concert, why did you show up here? 466 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, of course, you know you have. 467 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 6: To realize when you're in Las Vegas, you're going to 468 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,680 get way more SaaS and way more sex. 469 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: Right, it is what it is, is. 470 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 5: What it is. Yeah, if you don't like it, don't. 471 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,559 Speaker 2: Go right exactly, you know, like it, don't go yes. Okay, 472 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,680 so you mentioned that there's this is the first in 473 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,519 this series. Can you give us any hints on the 474 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,160 second book in the series, and also where can people 475 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,400 find Bella and Django a Vegas velvet caper? 476 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,039 Speaker 6: Okay, well, the second book. At the idea that I have, 477 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,359 although it's still very rough, is that somehow someone comes 478 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,960 from Lenai, from the island of Lenai, and they are 479 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,880 they are not a good person, and they find out 480 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,119 that Bella and Django are in the bookstore and they 481 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,599 try to kidnap these cats because now they've become soelebrities. 482 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,240 So that's kind of what I've been thinking as a 483 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,240 new caper, that someone would actually try to steal the 484 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:10,839 cats because they're famous now in Las Vegas and you 485 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,440 hold them as hostage and try and get money. It's 486 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,440 a rough idea. I might come up with three or 487 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,799 four other ones. And meanwhile, this book is on Amazon. 488 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,880 You can get the e book and the audible is 489 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,160 on you know Audible, so you can get both of them. 490 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,599 Actually Amazon has this has a Amazon has something that's 491 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,799 called whisper Sink and you can get the e book 492 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,880 and the audible for one price, so as you're listening, 493 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,240 you can go along with the e book. And the 494 00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,759 next thing I would like to do, even before I 495 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:46,599 get to the next book, I'm considering making this into 496 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,599 a paperback because some people, as you know, Michelle, they 497 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,759 don't want to kindle and they don't want an audible. 498 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,440 So I haven't done that yet, but I think that's 499 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,240 a next goal. And I love for people who either 500 00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,559 read the e book or the audible to get in 501 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:01,960 touch with me and say, you know, what they liked 502 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,240 about it, what they would like. 503 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: To see next. 504 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 6: As an author, it's so important to get feedback from 505 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:09,440 people who read what we have to say. 506 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, where can people find out more about you? Annuichi? 507 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 6: Well, I have a website. It's called my name Ellenmlaura 508 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:20,079 dot com, E L L E N M. Laura dot 509 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,319 com and Michelle. I just started in April a new podcast. 510 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,720 It's called Enter the Mystics Garden. So that's on Spotify, 511 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:33,839 it's on Substack Enter the Mystics Garden. And in one 512 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,440 of the recent episodes, I had a friend who was 513 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,359 here and he is a a musician, and so he 514 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:45,880 was singing a song on the podcast guests who ran 515 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,279 out into the living room and joined in. It was 516 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,680 the most comical part of the entire episode. So that 517 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,880 episode has gotten more people interested because Bella herself shows up, 518 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,000 her voice is there. It's very very cute. It's called 519 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,400 The Day of Prayers Changed My World. So they can 520 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,799 find me on Spotify, Enter the Mystics card and they 521 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,440 can find me at my website Ellenmlaura dot com or 522 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,240 on Amazon. 523 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,039 Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you Ellen for coming on 524 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,079 Catatude and sharing all of this wonderful information about your book. 525 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960 I wish you great success. Thank you so much. 526 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 6: Thank you, Michelle, it was so kind of you to 527 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,240 invite me here. 528 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,319 Speaker 2: I want to thank Ellen Laura for coming on Catatude 529 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,359 and telling us about her new book. Bella and Django 530 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,519 a Vegas velvet caper. Be sure to look for it 531 00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:40,440 and Amazon, and also her podcast on Spotify. I want 532 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640 to thank my cat crew, Dennis, Charlotte and Mollie for 533 00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:47,519 teaching me about cats. Thank you, of course, to my listeners, 534 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,119 I appreciate you so much for being so loyal to 535 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,279 catued Thank you, thank you, And of course the show 536 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,000 would not be the same without the magic of my producer. 537 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,880 Thank you, Mark Winter for all you do. And hey, remember, 538 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,640 lose the attitude, have catitude. 539 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:08,319 Speaker 4: Let's Talk Pats every week on demand only on Petlight 540 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:24,440 radio dot com.