WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.799 Podcasts are real, I guess is what I'm trying to say. 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.160 Take me back to the place sign know, with the 3 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.679 Mystery Shack and the forest Gnomes. I'm already back, so 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.880 come on, let's go. Don't get me started. My heart's 5 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.160 in gravity faults. 6 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.640 Welcome to Mystery Shack, Look Back, Look Back. A nostalgic 7 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:25.399 time capsule and very spoiler filled interview. I'm your fandom scholar, 8 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:27.640 Abby Kirby, and today I would like to show you 9 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:34.439 our new exhibit. Here behold, it's our beloved curators, Charlotte, 10 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:36.000 Ella and Shelby. 11 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:40.719 Help us. 12 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.119 Oh hush, it's not that bad. 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.719 It's pretty bad. It's just one glass case for the 14 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:48.560 three of us. 15 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.479 It's hot in here, yeah, could you have installed an 16 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.520 air conditioner in the glass case at the very least? 17 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.640 Or a refrigerator, a magic refrigerator. 18 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.439 This is serious, This is an emergency. We are being 19 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.079 held captive in our own podcast museum. Please send help, 20 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:05.959 send the McElroy, send anybody. 21 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:10.200 Today I'm going to be interviewing our beloved curators to 22 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.280 find out exactly what it takes to make a podcast 23 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:17.640 and what exactly is a curator. When we're talking about fandom. 24 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.200 Yeah, okay, sure, sure, yeah, yeah I could. I could 25 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.079 go with the with taking my mind off of off 26 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:23.719 of the situation. 27 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:24.439 Yeah, oh yeah. 28 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:26.640 Talking helps to satiate the hunger. 29 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:31.280 Yes, yes, wait no, that's not true. Talking absolutely burnes galleries. 30 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:33.840 Yes, but you don't think about it while you're doing it. 31 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:35.159 I guess so. 32 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.560 But you know what does satiate the hunger knowledge? We're 33 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.799 gonna learn so much about how fandom works today through 34 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.239 the eyes of everyday people who live, breathe, and possibly 35 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:47.959 sweat fandom. 36 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.799 A lot of sweating, not a whole lot of breathing 37 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.280 in here, very stinky over here. 38 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.519 Yeah. So this is the five year anniversary of Mystery 39 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:58.439 Shack look Back. Will you talk me through where the 40 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:02.040 idea for this podcast came from the setup and exactly 41 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:03.879 why did you start this project? 42 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.239 As with all good aught, the title came to us 43 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:07.280 before anything else. 44 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:08.439 Yeah. 45 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.000 I remember GMing you that, right. 46 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.120 Yeah, you had Mystery Shack look Back kicking around in 47 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:17.520 your head. You liked the rhyme that we actually tried 48 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:20.159 to do this podcast in twenty eighteen. 49 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:21.680 It was twenty eighteen, yep, two. 50 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.719 Years after Gravity Falls ended, but that format was more 51 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.520 based on Everything's Coming Up Podcast? What does it called? 52 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:31.719 Formerly? I think it was Everything's Coming Up Podcast, and 53 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.840 then they changed the title to Everything's Coming Up Simpsons, 54 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.400 which is a fantastic podcast about Simpsons. 55 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:37.280 But yeah, it was. 56 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.280 It was at the time the version that we did 57 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.759 because it was just coming off the heels of the 58 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.960 show ending. It was missing the nostalgic part of nostalgic 59 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:52.159 time capsule. I think we actually weren't doing no spoiler either. 60 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:52.800 Correct. 61 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.479 It was relatively new at the time to be looking 62 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:58.120 at these episodes with the benefit of knowing everything that 63 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.560 we then knew that was. That was kind of novel 64 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.199 at the time to be like, wow, now we know 65 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.439 all the secrets, let's go back and watch the older episode. 66 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.960 Everything's Coming Up Simpsons. Of course, Alex Hirsch guested on 67 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.800 the first episode of the premise of that podcast is more, 68 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.520 let's talk about a Simpsons episode that's really meaningful to you, 69 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.800 because there are so many Simpsons episodes and it really 70 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.280 is specific to the person, which burrowed in their brain 71 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.759 harder than any others. There are forty episodes of gravity Falls, 72 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.400 and I don't think that was quite the way to 73 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.080 re examine this show no, and there. 74 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:37.479 Were seeds of what became the show that we have now, 75 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.360 because I remember we had a segment where was like, okay, 76 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.360 so where were you when you first saw this? We 77 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:45.879 were getting to the actual interesting part of the podcast. 78 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:47.840 We hadn't quite nailed it. But I think we recorded 79 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.520 like three episodes or two of them. 80 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:52.919 Yeah, I think we recorded three and released two. 81 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.759 Maybe there somewhere. I don't think there anywhere anymore. 82 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:58.840 I hope not everybody was sis at the time. It 83 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.199 was very uncomfort gribble to go back to you. 84 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.680 Yeah, it was in vogue to be sizz back then. 85 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.840 We don't really it was. It's true, it's very passe nowadays. 86 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:17.040 So around Thanksgiving twenty twenty, I guested on a podcast 87 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:22.920 called come On Forukuapods, a Homestar Runer podcast, and I 88 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:27.399 kind of didn't want to leave. What's fascinating about come 89 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:31.519 On Fuqua POD's homestow on a podcast is it does 90 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:36.160 cover the show in release order, which is possibly the 91 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.519 worst way to watch Homestar Runner because it took about 92 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:42.240 a year for Matt to figure out how to voice 93 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.519 act and Mike to figure out how to anime of. 94 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.639 The chatman fame. Yeah, if you haven't, if this is 95 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.079 your first episode of the podcast that you're listening to, right, 96 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:52.600 unlikely but possible. 97 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.639 And I'd never even thought about watching Homestar Runner and 98 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.439 release order. That's never been my approach to it. And 99 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.879 what was fat fascinating was Michael William Hunter did all 100 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:07.480 of the research and just brought in David and Alexa 101 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.199 just when they were ready to record. They just popped in. 102 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.040 They didn't have to do any pre preparation. 103 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.240 Alexa who had never seen any of them. 104 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.360 Right, and Alexa had never seen any of them. So 105 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.040 there was a segment called Hey Alexa, what do you 106 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.800 think of this? Where Alexa reacts to these cartoons for 107 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.480 the first time from the fresh Eyes. But also David 108 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.600 hadn't really David Spencer hadn't really watched Homestar Runners since 109 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:30.959 it was a meme since like two thousand and two, 110 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.160 two thousand and three, two thousand and four, so he 111 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.160 doesn't really remember what's a running gag and what just 112 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:41.079 comes up once. And what was fascinating to me because 113 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.639 there's no plot at Homestore Runner, there's no real such 114 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:49.879 thing as spoilers. But Michael was so committed, thank you 115 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:50.639 sugar glider. 116 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:52.079 Sorry, that was muffin. 117 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.199 That's a great that's a sailient point. Actually, I'm glad 118 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:56.000 somebody brought that up. 119 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:58.639 Yeah, for those of you wondering, the sugar glider is 120 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.000 in the glass with our curators. Yeah. I had to 121 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.720 bring my children with me. I only brought the things. 122 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:05.959 I thought I would have. 123 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.319 Lost my mind if not for these wonderful creatures. 124 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:10.720 Yeah, they love giving kisses. 125 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.600 It's true. Yeah, this is a lot easier with emotional 126 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.000 support animals, I will say. 127 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:16.399 Yeah. 128 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.959 But despite the fact that there are no real spoilers 129 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.319 in Homestar, Michael was so committed to making sure guests 130 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.800 didn't reveal too much about cartoons that David didn't remember 131 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:31.000 or hadn't seen yet, and that kind of stuck in 132 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:34.519 my brain. Is something interesting. And around the same time, 133 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.519 I was listening to Talking Futurama on the Talking Simpsons 134 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:44.439 Patreon feed, and they have a segment called what Happened 135 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.560 this day in Real World History where they kind of 136 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.959 set the scene for where this episode aired by saying, like, 137 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.480 what was the number one movie in theaters? What were 138 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:57.279 the big international news at the time, And it really 139 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.199 helped me in a way that I'd never really thought 140 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.639 of to understand these Futurama episodes, because Futurama is political 141 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:05.519 satire in a lot of ways. It is what if 142 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:08.160 the future sucked as much as Right Now did in 143 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:09.079 all the same ways. 144 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.600 Right first show set in the future, there were very 145 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.519 contemporary references to when it was coming out. 146 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.360 And so knowing when it came out really kind of 147 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.879 helps you understand it, and that's why that segment was 148 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.800 so useful. And then also there's a Tumblr blog called 149 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.240 Heritage Post, which you know Tumblr used to be this 150 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:32.399 big juggernaut of social media. Then it's not really anymore. 151 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.079 There's not as many people using it. You can't really 152 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.360 get a thousand notes by just saying something funny enough 153 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.240 like he used to be able to. So Heritage Post 154 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:45.680 was like about preserving the time when Tumblr was consistently 155 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.439 active and the posts that were important to the community 156 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:49.040 at the. 157 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.759 Time, and spinning off into larger means as well outside 158 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:54.120 of tumblrm But. 159 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.040 More than these three ideas separately, I was more thinking, 160 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:59.959 how do I get back on combad for Hooker Pot 161 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.319 as soon as possible. Yeah, I realized that if I 162 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.480 had a show on the network, one and I could 163 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.519 just steal their format, but two they would probably let 164 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.240 me guess to promote the podcast, which did wind up happening. 165 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:19.000 So you developed this this Nathan Fielder style, the plan 166 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:21.439 get my own, make my own. 167 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:25.120 Right, Yeah? Yeah, and Charlotte for you. Yeah. I wanted 168 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:29.399 to make a come on Pots adjacent podcast so that 169 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:30.480 I could guess on kub on. 170 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.480 That was my goal, which like in this weird like 171 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:39.440 meta textual way, the fact that our podcast about gravity Falls, 172 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.879 which is a show that was influenced by Alex Hirsch's 173 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.960 love of the Simpsons and Homestar Runner, was influenced by 174 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.960 our love of podcasts about the Simpsons and Home Star Runner, 175 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.840 and you know Futurama being adjacent to the Simpsons being 176 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:55.639 spun off of the Simpsons feed as well. 177 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:58.799 I messaged Ella, who was in senior year of college 178 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.799 at the time. This was around semba of twenty twenty, 179 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.879 I believe, a month after guests to come out buk Pods, 180 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.600 and I was like, let's start up mister a shack 181 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.799 look back again from the beginning, but this time one 182 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.279 as trans people and two. 183 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.279 As out trans people. I suppose we could say. 184 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:22.679 Two as a a fandom time capsule and uh nostalgic 185 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.039 nostalgic time capsule. Yeah, as a fandom museum. 186 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.840 Basically, well, whatever we said, you know that thing, that 187 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:29.840 thing we always. 188 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.960 Say, Yeah, who can remember? It's not like we've said 189 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:32.879 it fifty three times? 190 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.080 Who can remember? I'm losing brain cells in this glass 191 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:36.919 box as we speak. 192 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.720 So what you're saying is the secret to a good 193 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:47.440 podcast is caring about the Simpsons and being trans Yes. 194 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:48.919 That's just light. 195 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.399 That's true. That's a fantastic. 196 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.399 Point, absolutely, because I mean I feel like the thing 197 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.240 with most podcasts is that, and I'm I've done this 198 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.200 as well. You know, you go for like five or 199 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.480 so episodes and then you struggle to find the time 200 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.519 and the energy. But if there's anything that I could 201 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.039 keep up the energy to see through and is contained 202 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.720 enough relatively of a series to do in completion, it 203 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.559 would be grabbed me false. So I was like, okay, 204 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.639 that's the motive, right, if we're talking about this in 205 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:21.559 terms of a murder. 206 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.639 The opportunity, Yeah, you were busy with the senior Yeah. 207 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.480 Well the opportunity was, yes, busy with senior year, but 208 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.919 also this being twenty twenty, I can't remember at this point. 209 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.759 I just know that a thing was happening that gave 210 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.840 me a lot of time at home and not much 211 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.559 going on outside of the home. I don't remember what 212 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.080 it was again, because I'm losing brain cells as we speak. 213 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:47.639 Who could remember. It's probably over now, right, it's probably done. 214 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.519 We don't have to worry about it. It doesn't exist anymore. 215 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.240 If it's not. Staying behind glass is a good way 216 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:53.879 to avoid it. 217 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.600 Oh, I'm sure, yeah, you're probably right. But yeah that 218 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.879 so then there's the opportunity, right, is that it was 219 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.919 the perfect storm of at least on my end, you. 220 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.320 Had to finish senior year, which meant we had five 221 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.240 or six months of just texting each other ideas for 222 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:11.600 the podcast, which is why when it started it was 223 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:15.480 like a fully formed idea, which is not how most 224 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.559 podcasts start. Most podcasts start with just let's record and 225 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.919 see what happens and figure out the format as we go. 226 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.360 Yeah, okay, so we have the promise of an idea. 227 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.399 But I think that planning stage is that where you 228 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.720 got Shelby in on things. 229 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.000 So Shelby did the research with me for the first 230 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.200 episode because Ella was finishing up school, and so Shelby 231 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.519 has kind of always been a presence on this podcast. 232 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.000 As soon as Shelby started guesting, we started saying, like, 233 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.919 you're kind of the third curator, but this was a 234 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.399 weekly released podcast. 235 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.759 And then you literally became the third curator, and in 236 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:51.360 my you know, retroactively, you always were. 237 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.360 Like that was kind of how we talked about Shelby 238 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.120 and the guest spot. In their second appearance, we introduced 239 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.799 to them as a curocent. Yeah, Shelby just was working 240 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.440 a full time job and Ella and I was stuck inside. 241 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:06.000 So yeah, I also think I moved four times during 242 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:07.559 the lifetime of the podcast. 243 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.559 Oh yeah, it was I was a little busy. 244 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.120 That would do it. Yeah, that would do it. 245 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:13.399 I'm going to take a moment here and I'm going 246 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.279 to talk at you guys, just so that I don't 247 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:16.000 get stagnant. 248 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.360 Please do We're flogging up the glass with our breath 249 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.480 and when it's causing us to choke on carbon dioxide. 250 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:23.360 I drew a little heart for you over here. 251 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.639 I'm going to drill some holes in this while I 252 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:26.159 talk to you. 253 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:27.399 Oh good, thank you. 254 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.919 Finally, can you put some meminems through that hole? If 255 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.279 you earn them? Have I not earned them yet? No, 256 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.440 I've got this article in front of me. It is 257 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:41.159 called Preserving the Marginal or the fan as archivist, And 258 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.000 now this is an article that's mostly about collecting physical things. 259 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.480 It gets a little bit into the digital world. But 260 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.759 when we think of archivists, we think of people who 261 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.080 archive physical objects. But it says nostalgia is one of 262 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.159 the main drivers of fans memorabilia collecting, because preserving the 263 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.879 things that you liked in the past helps you preserve 264 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.879 and perpetuate part of your former identity. And we're you 265 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:09.240 mentioned like just wanting to start this podcast two years 266 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.000 after Gravity Falls had ended, which doesn't feel like a 267 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:14.480 lot of time for something to be made nostalgic. And 268 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.120 I know I'm saying this now in twenty twenty six 269 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.360 and Gravity Falls has now been passed down to the generations. 270 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:24.399 But in those early days, how are you kind of 271 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:29.039 negotiating this idea of nostalgia of something that, from my perspective, 272 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:30.919 was kind of still actively going. 273 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.720 We were all pretty big in the Gravity Falls fandom 274 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:36.559 at the time that you were conceiving of that podcast, 275 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.039 so it was really more how did you get into 276 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.159 the fandom than how did this impact you? 277 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:47.200 Yeah, we were all fairly popular either blogs or youtubes 278 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.600 or what have you in the Gravity Falls fandom at 279 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:49.879 the time. 280 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:51.879 So Shelby was a Facebook. 281 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:55.399 Well, I'm tumbler. I wasn't aware that I was big 282 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:57.080 in the Gravity Falls fandom. You were the one that 283 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:57.799 told me that. 284 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:00.320 The couseplace you were posting to Facebook, I hadding a 285 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.519 lot of attention to the point where like, if I 286 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:05.000 would talk to cosplayers in New Jersey, do you know 287 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:06.240 of Shelby Andie Cosplay? 288 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:10.360 They'd be like, yeah, your kitten fists got the Alex 289 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.759 Hirsch tweet in I think twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen. 290 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:15.559 I believe it was twenty sixteen. 291 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.519 Whether it was the original twenty eighteen attempt of the 292 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.919 show where the incarnation we know in love now, I 293 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.000 think that was always kind of part of the idea 294 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.799 is that we are again with that's trying to sound 295 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:29.559 too narcissistic, somewhat uniquely qualified to catalog what this fandom 296 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:30.000 was like. 297 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.440 We were in the trenches we have I'm not I 298 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.039 don't feel narcissistic in saying we meant things to certain 299 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:38.559 people in the fandom, not everyone we weren't like a 300 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:44.559 universal constant for every fandom experience. But there were people 301 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:47.919 that think back in the Gravity Falls era and they think, ah, 302 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.720 I miss what probably happens in Gravity Falls and the 303 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.320 Gravity Falls full time fandoms and all of the cosplays 304 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:55.639 I saw on Facebook, and. 305 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.200 I was again, it is a little different, I guess 306 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.360 in my case because unlike it was a my cosplays, 307 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.399 it wasn't pictures of me or voice recordings of me. 308 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.360 It was just things that I would post, like you know, posts, 309 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.200 we would call them. But that's that's gonna get censored 310 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:12.360 and sound like nothing. 311 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.960 I think Ella is mentioned in one of the commentaries 312 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.159 that's well, yeah, yeah. There's a bit in one of 313 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:21.919 the DVD commentaries where they talk about people trying to pause. 314 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:22.639 On the second episode. 315 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.480 Yeah, the second commentary, they talk about people trying to 316 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:29.600 pause on in between frames and catch the characters looking weird. 317 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:32.720 And in our episode Gobloca, I presented that to Ella 318 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:35.279 and I said, now, who do you think they're talking about? 319 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.799 Yeah, And I think I think the less charitable interpretation 320 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.039 is like, oh, you're you're trying to insinuate something about 321 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.799 the way the show looks like no it's just funny. 322 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.600 The gronkle stand or the Dipper's arm is is around 323 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.039 gronkle stand and it's like stretched out to his across 324 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.120 his shoulder. That's what makes cartoons magic. Like that increases 325 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.559 the magic for me. That doesn't decrease the magic. Yeah, 326 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:58.200 it never has. 327 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.480 They squashed them stretch, that's the that's a whole purpose. Yeah, 328 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.639 I really love that This podcast is kind of a 329 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.399 simultaneous story of people doing a whole bunch of different 330 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:13.000 fan works coming together, specifically because Charlotte wants to be 331 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:19.279 on another podcast, and I just there's this part of 332 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.480 me that's like, oh, I say, everybody could just do 333 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:25.559 blogs or make podcasts and I had to go get 334 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.120 a degree and write a book just in the room. 335 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.039 Hey, I mean, I have a degree in music and 336 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:36.120 all I do is community theater. Sometimes the path finds you. 337 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:38.600 The path definitely does find you. But it's like kind 338 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.639 of been this hilarious like running gag in my life 339 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:45.000 for the past year ish where I'll be out in 340 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.799 public somewhere donning some kind of gravity falls merchandise and 341 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.360 someone will be like, hey, I like your gravity false thing. 342 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.519 I'll be like, hey, yeah, I want to hear a 343 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:54.879 fun fact about me. I'm writing a book. I talk 344 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.799 to people, I'm working really hard, and they'll look at 345 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:58.639 me and go yeah, sure, and I'm like. 346 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.919 Oh, I'll show them, You'll show them all. 347 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.200 They don't believe you, because who's living that dream? That's 348 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:08.359 a dream right there? Who could possibly be living that dream? 349 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.599 So few people have believed me. Where I talked to 350 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:16.839 Ariel Hirsh for a little bit and she was telling 351 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.160 me over zoom that like she thought I was some 352 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.039 weird freak who was lying to her. 353 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:24.720 She was like, she was like, look, I know I 354 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.559 work as a therapist, so I don't say this to anyone, 355 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:29.799 but you're a weird freak and I don't believe you. 356 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.240 Yeah, she was, well, yeah, she was like, is this 357 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.759 a weirdo trying to stalk me? Even though I like 358 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.960 provided all this evidence of like here's my contract, here's 359 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.000 here's things I've already talked to to ask your brother, 360 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.599 and she sent him a text that said, hey, this 361 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:47.960 like weird person who's claiming to be an academic reached 362 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.240 out to me. Is this legit? And all he said 363 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:55.880 was ye, cool, incredible. 364 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.799 That's the best thing anyone can say about anyone. 365 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.799 I mean, I take it as a really high compliment, 366 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.759 but like it's it's it's a repeating thing where people 367 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:07.720 have not believed me. And I think I've gotten a 368 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:13.200 lot of unanswered emails because everybody's like this freak is 369 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.759 totally lying to me. And I'm here like clawing at 370 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.119 the door like a cat who can't decide if it 371 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.279 wants in or out, being like no. 372 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:23.319 I mean, I can't decide. 373 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.200 I went to Grits. I was gonna say, it's the 374 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.839 meme at the gate. Let me Yeah, yeah, I'm Eric Andre. 375 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.599 Let just this use this as fuel, though, Use this 376 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.400 as fuel, and and look down upon the town from 377 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.880 your balcony and just think I'll show them. I'll show 378 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:41.200 all of them what I've got. 379 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.960 Yeah, someday I'll have my my little Gideon moment where 380 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:45.599 I'm like, look at all them little old people. Will 381 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.920 I collect absolutely zero royalty money on this thing? 382 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:54.079 Yeah, then we'll get the Abby Kirby brand blunt objects. 383 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:58.319 Mmm, oh my god. So okay, this is a nostalgic 384 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:02.839 podcast and you're cure. Yes, there is so much to 385 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:07.799 gravity falls, like an inexplicable amount of stuff that there 386 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.359 is to talk about. It's true, how are you deciding 387 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:12.960 what to curate? 388 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.839 I think that taking it from an episodic point of 389 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.519 view and only focusing on what was available at the 390 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:23.079 time is probably the most effective way to cultivate the 391 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.480 fandom culture because you're taking bite sides amounts. 392 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.599 As far as what we decide to preserve and what 393 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.200 we don't, we wanted the podcast to be fifty two 394 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:34.519 episodes because we wanted it to be over in a year. 395 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.240 We started it a year before the tenure Gravity Falls anniversary, 396 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.480 so we found forty episodes and then anything else we 397 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.079 could think of and narrowed it down to the twelve 398 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.880 we thought the most important to us when we were 399 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:49.920 coming up in the fandom, the things that we remember 400 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.480 making waves people talking about because we were actively there 401 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:55.200