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Speaker 5: All right, everybody, Welcome to the Paranormal Portal Podcast. I

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Speaker 6: Hey all, it's done with Paranormal Portal. Just want to

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give you a little background on the episode tonight. Tonight,

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our episode is going to start with a phone call

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from mister Wes Germer Sasquash Chronicles, and he's gonna tell

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us about a phone call he got about some folks

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friend from YouTube. She calls in and she wants to

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talk about the moon. She's going to reference a picture

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page that's going to be at www dot Facebook dot

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com slash Paranormal Portal Radio, and if you'd like, you

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can go there and check out that picture. And maybe

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it's a great picture. It is very descriptive, and I'm

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Speaker 5: So here we go.

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Speaker 6: Let's go ahead and jump into this episode, and I

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Speaker 5: We do have a call. Oh, so let's get to

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this call and see what's going on. And this is anonymous.

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: What's happening boys? How's it going? Man?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Great brother?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 7: Doing pretty good? But I thought i'd call it. I

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had a cool story for you guys.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna er it tomorrow. And I was curious if

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Brent or down you guys heard of such a thing.

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This guy calls me and he's heading he's in Kentucky.

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He's heading down these back roads. He's with his wife

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and he's with his daughter, and he had it was

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right as it was getting dark. I mean it was

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basically dark at that point. The sun was just going down.

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thing and he said it was about five or six

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inches big flies right in front of his truck. And

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it's and I'll describe it in a second. But it

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was long orange and it stopped in front of his

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truck and it was fluttering its wings and keeping page.

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don't forget to tell him it was glowing. It was

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it was glowing. It was glowing, and they've been driving

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down the roads. Sheet again, but it kind of sounds

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like what you would think of like a Disney fairy. Yeah,

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that's kind of what he's describing. Wow, And I'd never

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heard of such a thing. And he said it was

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glowing orange and it fluttered right in front of the

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truck and then put its wings down and shot straight

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that many of them describe them as glowing though. So

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that's what's interesting about this one. Did you get an

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be interpreted as glowing as well. But wow, that's really intense.

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that same road every night to see if they could

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they were coming up to a dead end, and he said,

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the whole atmosphere changed. He felt like they were in danger.

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a thing. A lot of times you look up fairy

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lower it sounds like aliens. It really doesn't sound like fairies.

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a little creature and it ran and jumped into this

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barrel thing and then shot up into the sky. Right,

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you know, I guess it's possible. That is just wild though,

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to think that that, you know, they're they're out there

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Speaker 5: Don Oh, we have a we have a friend.

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Speaker 6: His name is Jim Mount, and he's been on the show.

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the different alien orbs and how they have living plasma

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as kind of a sen a shield and this plasma

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blue is everything's cool, everything's good, Red is like hunter

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killer mode. Oranges I don't remember, but he goes through though,

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Speaker 8: But it really wasn't And I asked him too, I

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still wasn't like a ball of light, He said, no,

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it had like a form, almost like a person, but

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it had wings and it was really small, and you know,

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not a bird. And I was going down the list

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of things that could be.

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Speaker 8: He was like, no way, no way, no way, and

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he's like, it glowed red. It I'm sorry, glowed orange.

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Speaker 7: And so I don't know. I really don't know.

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Speaker 5: All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. And mister Germot

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couldn't hold on, but he had things he had to do.

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Brother we appreciate it. That is wild. I don't know,

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you know, I believe those things are out there. I

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believe there's all kinds of things out there, and it's

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hard to wrap your head around a lot of it,

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just because it flies in the face of so much

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of our Western sensibilities. I guess, right, done, Yes, do

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and you're right, you know, it just flies in the

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you know. So yeah, absolutely, it's it's always always a

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Speaker 5: Right, but it's very cool. Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just like wow, all right, So we

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Speaker 9: Hi, guys. I wanted to wish you the happy happiest

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fiftieth anniversary of the Paulo Moonelan.

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Speaker 5: Or or is it was it?

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Speaker 7: Or did it? Did it? Land? No, I'm just kidding.

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found some company on the Moon that they couldn't talk

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Speaker 5: Right right, well, you know again, our friend Jim Mount

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who Donald was referring earlier, actually sent in the picture

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apparently hand hand given to him by Edgar Mitchell that

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the surface of the Moon, standing in front of an

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ancient structure. I think I still have that somewhere too,

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Speaker 8: And I did.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I did see a picture of an astronaut looking

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Speaker 6: That was the apost dug up and it was on

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the Moon.

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Speaker 9: And then then there was footage of astronauts walking around

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this like like rough version of a condo you know,

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that was on the Moon. You know, they didn't build

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Speaker 5: That's the stories. Yeah, it's it's hard to know what's

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Speaker 9: There on the Yeah, that is a lot, but it's

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it's it's fascinating and interesting. But I think they were

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on the moon. There were several missions.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 7: I don't doubt that.

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Speaker 5: I know there's some people that want, you know, like

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to throw a conspiracy theory at that, but I'm not

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one of them. I think that we went there. I

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don't know what we found. I've heard a lot of

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the reports, but apparently there's a lot more going up

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but I thought it was fascinating and I

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thought i'd call in during the anniversary of the Oh

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for sure, first man on the Moon landing. And you know,

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Speaker 5: Right, Absolutely, I'm on this, John.

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Speaker 6: Oh my thoughts. My thoughts are we were definitely there.

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basement somewhere, and I think I think that may be

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true to a point, and I think it might nobody

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Speaker 5: The still you know that anyhow, that's the cover story anyway.

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be true that there was something that happened like that,

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they couldn't show the footage that they really had, so

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they had to make up something to show America because

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it was such a pivotal point in our history that

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they had to have some kind of footage. So they remade,

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that and the other, and they did a little you know,

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supposed the suppose the moon landing. I'm not going to

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say suppose it, because I believe they were there, but

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so they had they basically contract somebody else to do

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a shoot. Basically. Now I think.

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Speaker 9: Actually they weren't just trying to impress some TV.

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Speaker 6: Well that's true.

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Speaker 5: That's true too.

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Speaker 6: They were impressing the entire world, which was the point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.

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Neil Armstrong and his driver he's holding and gentlemen. And

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at a conference and talked with him at length, and

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edgar Mitchell gave him this photo. I do believe Jim

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what he says happened happened. I've known Jim for years.

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golf club with him and this is the structure that

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they found. Now, this was really a great honor to

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get this picture in to be able to show it

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on the show. And once again, Jim, thank you for that.

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the pixelizations that would show that it was fabricated. And

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it's a hoax. But but yeah, this is an amazing picture.

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Speaker 6: That's awesome.

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Speaker 9: Also, there's another thing they I heard some recordings that

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they was they switched over to

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the medical line to talk about it, and that's the

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line that was not being that's the private line.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, yep.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, there was a lot going on up there

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Speaker 9: This is an awesome picture.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 5: It's it's one of the if it if it is

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a hoax, it was one. I can't see anything rudimentally

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Speaker 9: Took the photo, Digger Dog, yes too, took the photo.

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Speaker 5: It's Armstrong in the picture. But Mitchell took the photo.

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photo that Edgar Mitchell himself took.

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Speaker 6: So that is incredible. Yep.

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Speaker 7: So you're seeing, now, what do you.

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Speaker 9: Think about the moon itself. Do you think it's.

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Speaker 5: A planet or the interesting The interesting thing about the moon.

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The interesting thing about the moon is that it's actually

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allegedly millions of years older than the Earth, so it

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came apparently from somewhere else. The other interesting thing about

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the moon is that it defies the physics astrophysics for

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a moon circling a planet, because normally they're much much

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smaller in the scale to the planet they circle, and

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this one, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's like exactly a third of the mass.

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, like that, And moon's natural moons orbiting a

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planet are normally much much smaller in comparison to the

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actual mass of the planet. So there's a lot of

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things wrong with our moon.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: It's that's a millionaire year old mooning us, right right,

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were out there, apparently.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know exactly, you know, actually, the first nations

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have stories, the first nations have stories of the sky

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without a moon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they have stories of when the moon came ye.

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you know, a long, long, long time. So I'm not

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sure how there was another.

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Speaker 9: Theory there's another theory that a planet collided with Mars

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or something whe moon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, actually, yeah, that that story is actually like,

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originally the planet was called Tiamot and it was hit

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supposedly Bybiru. It was actually struck and what happened was

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Biu took out a chunk and this is it had

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to be when the Earth was still cooling or something

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like that. The idea is is that Tamot spun itself

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back into a sphere and became the Earth, and then

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it had an asteroid field that eventually somehow regathered and

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became the Moon. So that's kind of the story and

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different different ideas on that story, but that's pretty much

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the idea. But yeah, so Tiamat and Nibiru, and there's

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also a theory that that's what caused human life on

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the Earth.

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Speaker 7: Uh huh oh wow.

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Speaker 9: There's all kinds of different stories.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there is. There's a lot of different ideas of

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the slave race, the planet x blah blah blah, mining

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for gold. Uh yeah, and the yeah, the reptilians. I

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mean that the list of ideas goes on and on

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and on and on, and I don't pretend to have

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any idea which one of them is right, or if

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any of them are. But I just think they're They're

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all very interesting and they all have a merit of

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their own. So I'm not, you know, outright discounting any

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of them either. I just don't know, and I don't

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pretend to know, but really interesting stuff.

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Speaker 9: I'm just kicking around ideas myself.

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Speaker 6: I think it's interesting, absolutely cool.

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Speaker 5: Very cool. Well, thank you for calling, Jess. It's great

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to hear from you. All right, all right, all right,

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all right, all right, thanks yess. But yeah, that that

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photo that blows me away, don.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And it's so awesome that it was given

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to us to to use. You know, it's just amazing

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the things that we don't think about, you know. And

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like I said, you know, it was supposedly Stanley Kubrick.

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Did you know that, you know, of fake landing and

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some things, and that would show exactly why they did

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that kind of thing, was to cover it up, not

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necessarily cover it up, but not be able to tell

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the story you know at the time.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: So I wonder why though, you know, I mean, why

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why was it Why wouldn't they just be like, hey,

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check it out. We found this stuff up there. Yeah,

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you know, I mean, I don't understand that.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's a strange thing. You know, we were

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really innocent, I would say, we were still really innocent

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as a civilization at the time, even though it was

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only like what sixty years ago, But we were kind

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of innocent and a lot of belief that there there

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that there's only one God, shall I say, and and

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there's no aliens. But you know, we've talked about this before,

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people like Art Bell and and these other radio hosts

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and folks brought this into the light, drug it kicking

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and screaming in the light. And now we're at a

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spot where we can actually we're actually getting this information.

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So I think I think it was just for the

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protection of civilization as we know it. But it's time

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to move beyond.

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Speaker 2: It is it is?

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Speaker 5: I see, uh, I see Paisley entered in there. She's

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in the chat room. Yep, Paisley's There're people do crazy

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things when they're afraid. You're absolutely right, they do. And

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I give you that. I I don't disagree that people

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it would create fear to know that. But you know,

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at the same time, we do know things that have

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made us afraid, and we've we've been okay, We've managed

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to make it through. You know, our civilizations are certainly

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not devoid of tragedy and horror, right, but somehow we

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always make it through. But I think, you know, the

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idea that it's, you know, we need to somehow be

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protected and umbrellaed from all this, right unless there's something

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really horrible going on that they're just not ready to

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let us know about it. And then and then it's okay,

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keep covering up. I'm good, you know.

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Speaker 6: There, and we come back to some as we come

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back to the idea that some people just aren't open

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to it, right, and and the fear thing, you know,

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it's like there are a lot of people who just

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don't want to know, like you said, you know anything.

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And then there are some people who want to say

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this is real, but that's not and that's not that's

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not really acceptable, you know. So you know, it's it's

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a matter of bringing things into the light, and you

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got to prove it, you gotta you gotta show the

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hard evidence to a lot of people, you know. And

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I'm one of those people, you know, I'm one of

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those people. If you show me a piece of evidence

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that I can believe. I believe, sure know. So interesting.

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Did you know moon moon dirt smells?

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Speaker 5: I didn't because I haven't smelled any I don't know.

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This is kind of cool. The Weird the Weird Desk

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US says private contractors told our joints chiefs of staff

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they didn't have a need to know or the clearance,

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and that's you know, I'm not sure that. I think

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he's on the same same line of conversation as we are.

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And I find that incredibly interesting that they're contractors and

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they could say, well, you don't need to know, So

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who were they contracting to exactly? And who does need

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to know? That's what I'm wondering about. But I think

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that gets into more of the the whole behind the

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curtain well black projects kind of stuff.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, and even back then we had private

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contractors that built the different things that went to the Moon,

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of course, and you know, knowledge is power. So if

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if private corporation can tell the US government or the

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chiefs of staff in this case, you know that, well,

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we're not going to share it with you because you

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know you don't need to know, because you know we're

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going to hold on to it maybe for maybe for

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our monetary gain, or for when we feel it's time

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to disclose this information. You know, there's a lot of

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speculation there, and you know, no matter who it came from,

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it happened, and that's all that matters right now.

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Speaker 5: Right, But what do you think about the breakaway space program?

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Then you know that's that kind of plays hand in

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hand with what we're talking about.

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're absolutely right, you know, and I talked about

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it earlier. Oh so we I was alluding to about

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how you know, there are different types of spacecraft. There's

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atmospheric which can come in and out of the Earth's atmosphere,

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Mars atmospheres, whatever, and then they're the big ones you

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talked about like Independence Day and the giant motherships. You know,

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those have to be built in space because they can't

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break atmosphere. They're too big, they're too slow, and they're

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not they're not really made for because once you get

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it up in space, you can make You can make

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this giant disc and only weighs like five pounds, you know,

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but if it was on the Earth, it'd be too

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big to move. And so where the hell was like, oh,

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with this.

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Speaker 5: I was wondering the same thing. It's like, how is

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that a breakaway space program?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Oh so, but this is where I was going.

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space exploration was the precursor to possibly something more, the

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idea that possibly there's something more than the iss up there,

474
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,680
as in maybe, like I don't know, a space vehicle building, port,

475
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,079
space vehicle manufacturing that can't be manufactured on Earth because

476
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,160
of gravity, atmosphere, things like that. You know, you can

477
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,680
do a whole lot of things in zero G and

478
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:54,839
you can do them a whole lot easier, with a

479
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,440
whole lot less. Sure, and so maybe you know, we

480
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,480
were talking about, oh, breakaway space, so you can. So

481
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,240
you can build these things out in in space, whether

482
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,359
it be just outside of the atmosphere between here and

483
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,119
the moon or past the moon on the dark side

484
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240
of the moon, the quote unquote dark side of the moon,

485
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,279
and nobody will ever notice. So a breakaway civilization or

486
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,799
a breakaway you know, or a secret space program you know,

487
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,960
very doable, very doable, expensive, but very doable.

488
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 5: I'm looking this up because all of this is mostly

489
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:34,359
video links, but it was it was weird, weird, weird, weird.

490
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, weird desk, weird desk.

491
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:39,759
Speaker 5: So read the Admiral Wilson leaked document from Edward Mitchell

492
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,880
Edgar Mitchell's archives, and I did pull up a link,

493
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,079
but it's a lot of YouTube stuff. I'm just looking

494
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,599
to see it if there's a pdf. Admiral Wilson notes,

495
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,000
let's see if I can find something that I can.

496
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:54,079
Speaker 8: Think you figured out.

497
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 5: Get that off there. Apparently I would have to look

498
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,000
forward before a show and not during a show, so

499
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,440
that's not gonna work. But thank you for that reference

500
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,039
and we will definitely look into that for future discussions.

501
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,480
But yeah, that's crazy, lots of weirdness going on. So,

502
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,039
you know, do you believe don there is a breakaway?

503
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 6: You know what? And I just read this that it

504
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,839
was Marcus Aurelius. He said the breakaway is from millions

505
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,880
of years ago. Now that's also something that hasn't been

506
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,119
brought up too. We've never really discussed We don't really

507
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,359
discuss like ancient civilizations, the rise and fall in human

508
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,079
life or life on the planet, you know, and so

509
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:43,000
but we talked about ancient aliens, we talk about you know,

510
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:46,640
the Onanaki. You know, we don't know how long ago

511
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,720
they were here. We don't know. There's no real record.

512
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,039
There's just passed down information, passed down history, you know,

513
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,759
and we can only extrapolate from that. But that is

514
00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:01,359
a good point. That is a good point that it

515
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,400
may be from millions of years ago, before the Fall,

516
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:08,240
before the rise, I should say, of modern man, because

517
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,920
we really don't know how old the sinx is. We

518
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,880
know it's older than twenty five thousand years though, because

519
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,119
of the waterwear on it, it makes absolutely no sense

520
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,119
that type of waterware.

521
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, it may have been before the.

522
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,759
Speaker 6: Age of modern man. Absolutely. Wes said, it's like element

523
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:29,640
fifty one isn't from here. I'm sorry, element fifty one,

524
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,359
element one point fifteen isn't from here. We can I

525
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,680
think the idea is that we can synthesize it, but

526
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,839
we can't actually make it, or we can mine it.

527
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:43,440
That's another thing we don't ever talk about is mining asteroids.

528
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: You know.

529
00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:46,039
Speaker 6: So there are just lots of ideas that all of

530
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,279
these things happened before the age of modern man, and

531
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,480
we only have, like I said, the pass down history.

532
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,839
You put it in front of me, or you give

533
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,480
me a fact that I can believe. I am all

534
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,799
for the idea, you know, of finding out and having

535
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,799
that disclosure and finding out you know, what races are

536
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,319
with us here. You know, the Chinese have said for

537
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160
sixty years that, yeah, they live in the open, but

538
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:15,279
of course we're not allowed into Red China, so you know,

539
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:17,440
it's a bit of a problem.

540
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:19,519
Speaker 5: You know, just I wonder, does that means that they

541
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,920
look like people but they're just they just regard them

542
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,799
as aliens, or do they look like aliens just hanging

543
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:25,400
out with people?

544
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 6: You know, That's that's an interesting thing. You know, there

545
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,240
are supposedly a lot of races that are very very

546
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:34,400
human like right annoyed. So you know, maybe those are

547
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,039
the ones that came in peace, like say Valiant thor

548
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,720
you know, and Jane and Dawn, you know, they all

549
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,240
came down and we're talking with Eisenhower and basically the

550
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:49,559
you know, basically the government decided to go with the

551
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:55,200
other option, which was being apparently offered by the Grays

552
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,400
for lack of better term, because it really isn't one yet.

553
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,720
But so there you have it. You know, there's all

554
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:07,599
kinds of speculation and and supposes and extrapolations.

555
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,039
Speaker 5: You know, So right now, what was interesting though, wasn't

556
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:12,720
Vellian thor from from Venus?

557
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 6: That's what was Venusian? Yeah, supposedly, as I understand it

558
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,960
through my research, it lived in the interior of Venus.

559
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,000
So why can't there be an interior.

560
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:26,279
Speaker 7: Of the Earth.

561
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: I think there is? I think there is.

562
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,559
Speaker 6: I agree, I agree. So does that bring up the

563
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,799
question that maybe some of these aliens aren't necessarily extraterrestrial?

564
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: But that's the natural progression I'm saying. Yeah, so there

565
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,720
is that, ladies and gentlemen. So tonight we're talking about

566
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400
a lot of things, but we are currently just getting

567
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,680
into the whole ancient civilizations and how long has things

568
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:52,319
been around? What's going on here?

569
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,079
Speaker 7: You know?

570
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: You know, you talk about things like don like Puma Punka.

571
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:01,799
It was kind of a lot on Ancient Aliens with

572
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,480
Georgie Sucluse. I know, he's like, it's like he's licking

573
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,880
electrical sockets before he comes on. Okay, ready to go.

574
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960
But yeah, I mean I love that show and I've

575
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,799
watched tons of them, but I find the arguments really

576
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,599
really compelling, and just in terms of if there is

577
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,319
evidence of people having been helped through the AONs by

578
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:32,279
these other worldly intelligences or advanced intelligence anyway. But we

579
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,880
just kind of brushed on the idea that there's maybe

580
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,440
people inside the world too, and maybe those people inside

581
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,519
the world are way ahead of us as well. You know,

582
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:45,200
maybe maybe they were able to get a head start

583
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:47,599
because they didn't have glaciers rolling over them, you know,

584
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,319
and maybe that helped them get a little ahead of us.

585
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,599
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, that's actually an interesting thought. You know, that

586
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,799
they were protected from dare I say, mud floods or

587
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,839
you know, you know, the melting of the glaciers that

588
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,799
cut the valleys through Montana and Idaho and Washington and

589
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,039
all over. You know, you know, maybe that didn't affect

590
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,319
them so much. You know, maybe they didn't have an

591
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:12,519
issue with the forty days and forty night deluge. Who knows,

592
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720
but you know, yeah, it's it's quite possible that we've

593
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,039
been wiped out, like you know, the crust, the crust Walkers,

594
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:24,920
the Eloy crust Walkers, I have been wiped out and remade,

595
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,119
wiped out, remade, wiped out, remade. But the morlocks in

596
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,160
the center of the Earth is.

597
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: Now what you call the guy at the end of

598
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,559
the subway line. That's the crust walker.

599
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 7: Sorry, it just came to me. I had to roll

600
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:36,920
with it.

601
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,799
Speaker 5: I had to try, I had to the gap. What

602
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,799
did you say about.

603
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,319
Speaker 6: Eloy, Eloy Eloy the crust walkers?

604
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Is that seriously a term? I've not heard this.

605
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 6: It's it's a reference to the time machine by George orwell, oh,

606
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:50,720
the Eloi and the Morlock.

607
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,319
Speaker 5: Oh gotcha, gotcha? Okay, continue.

608
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 6: But you know, so we've been wiped out, you know,

609
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,680
the crust of the earth people's have been wiped out.

610
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,839
But yet, you know, the the hollow Earth people have

611
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,440
been you know, building their civilization for million years. You know,

612
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,599
who knows. So maybe that might be part of the

613
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,279
breakaway civilization as well. Have you ever thought of that.

614
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Maybe they went underground to break away from society because

615
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,559
they saw the warnings of what may be coming, or

616
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,960
you know, maybe they you know, didn't agree with the

617
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:24,880
people that walked the earth at the time and they

618
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480
So there's another idea of breakaway civilization for.

619
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,319
Speaker 5: You, that is that's that's kind of an interesting one.

620
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,440
So the glaciers descended from the north down right now,

621
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,880
isn't there Allegedly an entrance to inner Earth up in

622
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,119
the North Pole area somewhere.

623
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 6: And somebody just mentioned Admiral Bird.

624
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,759
Speaker 5: So yes, that's that's Antarctica though, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

625
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,279
that's wasn't it? Or did he go north I don't remember.

626
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,119
I thought he went down to Antarctica.

627
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,799
Speaker 6: Somebody's laughing. Oh, the weird desk is laughing at me.

628
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,039
Crest Walker's that's funny.

629
00:33:58,759 --> 00:33:59,799
Speaker 5: He said. It's a tea shirt.

630
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:03,319
Speaker 6: Oh that's not a bad idea, thank you. I'll have

631
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,319
to work on that, you know, or a bumper sticker.

632
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:08,280
I'm a Crestwalker.

633
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: Well yeah, we might as well try to market the

634
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,000
hell out of it, you know, and ladies and gentlemen,

635
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,320
the idea of Now, I've been thinking this for a

636
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
long time, ever since I learned about the artifacts out

637
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,800
of time and the idea that there are screws embedded

638
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,199
in coal and things like that, and machined aluminum parts

639
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,280
found next to mastadon skulls in you know, different parts

640
00:34:32,280 --> 00:35:17,679
of the world. Oh my god, we've got some calls by. Oh,

641
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960
let's get to these and see what people are thinking

642
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480
out there. So the first one is from Anonymous. Anonymous

643
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,559
Anonymous is on the.

644
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 8: Line, Hey guys, sorry, I'm multitasking listening to the show,

645
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,920
and I meant this is Wes by the way, I

646
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,440
meant to call in before the break.

647
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 7: You guys should do a show on val Thor. Oh, yeah,

648
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,960
it's a great story.

649
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: It is.

650
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, when I'm glad because there's a lot of weird

651
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440
things with that story when you dig into it, like

652
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,320
Valthor a picture of him from like the late forties

653
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,559
and a picture of him from like the sixties. He

654
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:54,760
has not aged one bit, And there's weird things. I

655
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,800
now started acting really weird around that time. He started

656
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,719
making a lot of weird decisions, and.

657
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 7: So there's a lot.

658
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 8: You know, it might all be a BS, but there's

659
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,880
a lot of weird things around that story.

660
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 7: But I was going to call in and tell you guys.

661
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 8: When I interviewed Travis Walton the Fire in the Sky,

662
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,800
when the ship docked with the bigger ship and he

663
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,199
got out and he was trying to he didn't know

664
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,760
where he was at.

665
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 7: He was trying to run.

666
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 8: He ran into what he describes as a human being.

667
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,559
He said, the guy really good. Look I the guy

668
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:34,000
really didn't kind of looked at him with an empathetic type.

669
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 7: Look.

670
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 8: But I said, if this guy was walking down New York,

671
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,360
would anyone think anating strange or walking down in LA

672
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:41,840
would he?

673
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 7: He goes, no, he looked just like you were me.

674
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:47,519
Speaker 8: But he could tell you know, he grabbed him by

675
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,400
the arm and walked him back in to the smaller craft.

676
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,039
Speaker 7: But you guys should do a story on Valtour. It's

677
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,320
a really cool story. Man.

678
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: We'll have to dig into that. And you know, the

679
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,360
funny thing is, Wes We've heard, I've heard and you

680
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,679
know in my years of checking into UFO and encounter

681
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,880
stories and such, that there are a lot of people

682
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,519
that encounter human looking people and like people in different

683
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,400
stages of human and alien like it like it's a

684
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,480
hybrid program, you know, like where they're creating a hybrid species.

685
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,199
And I wonder if that's what Travis ran into, was

686
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,440
like a hybrid.

687
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, I asked him, and he said

688
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,599
it looked very human. Everything about this thing looked very

689
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,239
human like, So I you know, I's to say, I

690
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719
really don't know. I think the creating a hybrid thing

691
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,960
is a story as old as time. Just like Donn

692
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,679
had mentioned George orwell well he that story's actually has

693
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,719
been around way longer before George showed up on the scenes.

694
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,199
That's when ancient writings. George just gave it different names.

695
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,119
He gave in the Eloys and you know, he kind

696
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,360
of spun the story a little bit, but that actually

697
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,360
comes from somewhere.

698
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 7: He didn't just dream that up one day.

699
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: Well, you know, but things right, you know, it's just oh,

700
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880
I'm sorry, Yeah, I don't mean to I don't mean

701
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,679
to interrupt you, sir, But the First Nations have a

702
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,480
lot of stories of going back to the deluge. I

703
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:22,199
believe it's the hope he war uh helped by the

704
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,760
ant people that took them underground and got them through

705
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,280
a time of destruction. And so you know, it's it's

706
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,000
a good it's not a far leap. It's a good

707
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,480
thought line of thought that says that these people that

708
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:42,239
helped the Hope are from the center of the Earth

709
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,800
or you know, hollow Earth, whatever you want to call that. So, yeah,

710
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,559
it you're right, it does come before before or well

711
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,480
Bhesa socialized it because that's what he does, you know.

712
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,719
But yeah, there's a lot of stories. As a matter

713
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,199
of fact, there's another First nations and I can't I'm

714
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,280
not going to say anything about who it is because

715
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,880
I can't remember. That tells a similar one of not

716
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,599
ant people. Were they lizard people? I can't remember, But yeah, yeah,

717
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,599
you're absolutely right, and I agree. Yeah, and you know,

718
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,239
George Orwell did his thing, you know, and brought it

719
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000
to light. But people don't connect things like that. They

720
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:17,599
just don't.

721
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:18,679
Speaker 7: Yeah.

722
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 8: Well, I think a lot of those those stories go

723
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
back to even the giants. If you go outside of

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,119
the Bible and you see in these ancient texts, the

725
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400
giants were having nightmares that a flood was coming and

726
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,639
everyone was going to be They actually had this nightmare

727
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,440
that kind of goes in the whole story of how

728
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:38,320
Enoch gets involved with the Nephelum. But they started having

729
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,800
visions of it. But if you read some of the

730
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,800
ancient texts, and if you buy into it, some of

731
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,840
those supposedly fallen angels put their sons into in the

732
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000
earth before the flood came. To the Bible, they were

733
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,400
there before and after. It's not like, well, the flood

734
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,199
took care of it. It really didn't take care of it,

735
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,199
because it says before and after, and it's weird when

736
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,760
you start hearing rumors of the military finding these giants

737
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,440
like in deep underground caverns and they're in a state

738
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,360
of stasis. Now, whether you buy that or not, it's

739
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,800
kind of weird riding rumors of this now, and then

740
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,679
when you start looking at the history. Maybe it's not

741
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,400
as crazy as it might sound him. You know, maybe

742
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,000
it is, but it's kind of weird how different things.

743
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:29,119
It's kind of like when they found Nimrod's body. The

744
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,360
lady it was the day before we went in Iraq,

745
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,559
by the way, but the lady who dug him up

746
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,239
said he looked like he had died yesterday. He wasn't decayed,

747
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,480
he hadn't been there for thousands and thousands of years.

748
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,280
It looked like he had died yesterday. And what's weird

749
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,519
is there's a military base now on top of his tomb.

750
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,519
Us military base, but that's a whole notherhole. There's a

751
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:58,239
weird couple things with pictures. And you know, I'm fifty

752
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,760
to fifty sometimes on the Bible, but there's a verse

753
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,719
in Revelation. It talks about the Antichrist and don't go

754
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,719
looking for him, you'll find him in the desert, and

755
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,599
then it talks about him being surrounded by eagles, and

756
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:16,719
there's a picture of the US military all standing around

757
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:23,039
Nimrod's tomb and what's on their uniforms? And wonder, you know,

758
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,800
if Beth Miller can go through and recreate her dog

759
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,760
three times over, you know, through DNA. Yeah, why couldn't

760
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,079
we take some and recreate Nimrod if we wanted to?

761
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 5: Sorry, that's cool. It all plays out perfectly.

762
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,559
Speaker 6: Well. You know, when they're trying to bring back Willie Mammos.

763
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,960
You know, what was the guy's name, destination Josh, Yeah,

764
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,079
Josh Gates, you know, he he he was over like

765
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:56,599
Siberia and they were digging up mammoth tusks and skulls

766
00:41:56,679 --> 00:42:02,960
and bones, and they they believe they found liable mammoth DNA.

767
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,519
So if they can clone a mammoth from frozen DNA,

768
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,199
then why couldn't they if they find the body of somebody,

769
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239
say the Giants or Nimrod, it's not far fetched to

770
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,599
think that they could basically reawaken him through DNA cloning.

771
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,360
I mean, they've already cloned things. There's already cloned things

772
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,559
in the world. It's not a possibility it's a fact.

773
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so well it is. I think the process still

774
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
has to come a long way before that, but you know,

775
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,960
it's definitely coming. Well, I mean, just as far as

776
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,480
we know, as far as we know, as far as

777
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,599
we know part of that discusion. God only knows what

778
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,079
they can do and what they can what they've already reanimated. God,

779
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,519
when I see these cryptodales, I'm pretty sure somebody's messing

780
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:49,280
around in a lab somewhere, because there's weird grap everywhere.

781
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree.

782
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 6: We also had somebody calling to the show one time

783
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:56,400
and told us about how I think it was his

784
00:42:56,679 --> 00:43:00,760
father or grandfather. I maybe miss saying this, but basically

785
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,599
he said that big fit, big, big sasquatches.

786
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 5: Are they big feet?

787
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 6: I don't know what's what's a group of bigfoot called anyway,

788
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,360
but sasquatches come from inside the earth. And this is

789
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,360
one theory that they had, is that they're not necessarily

790
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,320
crust dwellers, but they do come up to the surface

791
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,320
for whatever it may be. So there's there's been speculation

792
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:33,199
that they are from the middle of the Earth or

793
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,920
you know, hollow earth. So that's another thing that was

794
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:39,000
mentioned briefly on a passed episode.

795
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: So your thoughts, mister Grimmer, Yeah, I don't know that

796
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,480
I have much.

797
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:44,559
Speaker 7: I mean, I've had a.

798
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 8: Not a demonologist or I don't know how you guys

799
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,360
Getlia terms the psychic. She wasn't a psychic, but she

800
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,400
thought she would going to get rid of pultergeish. She's

801
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,039
like a ghostbuster. I guess she had made that comment

802
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,400
that and she actually got rid of them, but she

803
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,079
had the sasquatches, I mean, and she had made the

804
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,239
comment same thing. They're coming in up out of the earth.

805
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,519
And so it makes you wonder the hell's going on.

806
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 7: You know, the hollow earth theory. I know a lot of.

807
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 8: People kind of mocked that, and I sat and I

808
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,599
watched this whole video not to send you guys. It's

809
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:27,159
pretty fascinating. The scientist explains why the earth is hollow,

810
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,719
and he does it through earthquakes. And he was talking

811
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,400
about if I take a rock and I throw in

812
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,639
a pond, that wave's going to go all the way

813
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,880
to you know, almost endless.

814
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 7: The wave's going to keep.

815
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 8: Going until obviously at some point runs out. But you

816
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,239
can throw a rock in a pond and have that

817
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,480
wave go all the way across the pond. And he

818
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,559
was talking about how earthquakes that if there's an earthquake

819
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,039
in California, they should fill it on the other side

820
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,199
of the globe if it wasn't hollow, because there's nowhere

821
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,559
for that earthquake to go. It's that big pond videos

822
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,559
because it's hollow when there's an earthquake. That's why earthquakes

823
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,480
are concentrated in one area. You know, California has a

824
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,760
six point nine, yet up here in Washington we don't

825
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,880
fill it. You know, we have no clue there was

826
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,239
an earthquake. Sure, And you know, I don't know if

827
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
it's the whole hollow earth thing it's sure or not.

828
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,079
I'm not a scientist, but it was very fascinating to

829
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,840
watch him explain this hollow earth theory and why and

830
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,920
he does it through earthquakes and he does it through

831
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,079
science and explains why it's hollow, and you know, I

832
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:32,079
thought it was fascinating.

833
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 7: It is. I don't know how I got off on

834
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,840
that tangent.

835
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 5: No, but that's cool because we have We had a

836
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
guest on the show, Brooks Agnew, and we did we

837
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,199
just released that as a podcast just recently. But he

838
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480
talked about he's a big hollow earth person. He's a

839
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,800
scientist as well as an entrepreneur, inventor and et cetera,

840
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,880
et cetera. But he was talking about how deep deep

841
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:59,199
water seismographs have actually recorded waves hitting the shore on

842
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:05,599
an underground ocean, so there's apparently entire oceans underneath the crust.

843
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:07,840
And he was talking about gravitation and stuff, and he's

844
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,119
he's like, at some point, as you go through the

845
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:14,199
seven hundred miles of crust, you're going to hit a

846
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,719
point of like zero gravity, because then when you get

847
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,960
inside the crust, you'd actually be drawn towards the outer

848
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,760
side of the crust, the right, the greater mass. So

849
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:28,400
he was talking about how it's widely believed there's oceans

850
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,679
in there. He talked about how there could be photosynthesis

851
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,039
due to I forget, what is the iron iron iron core,

852
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,719
the iron core. It shines like the sun, right, it

853
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,960
shines as the sun like a sun because of its

854
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,559
it's uh, you know, the temperature and what was going on.

855
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,239
He explains to science so much better than I ever could.

856
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,800
But I mean, it's all possible, it's all feasible that

857
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,840
this is going on and something's under there. And he's

858
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,679
talked about how like these these manta rays or whatever

859
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,679
came out and they were recording them when the sea

860
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,920
ice receded. Suddenly in the Arctic, the sea ice receded

861
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,119
and all of these mantas were coming from somewhere.

862
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 6: Fifteen hundred different species.

863
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen hundred different species were just suddenly emerging. And

864
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,239
they believe that that could be from the inner ocean.

865
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,719
So very wild stuff.

866
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 8: It is wild stuff. One thing I'll leave you guys

867
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,719
with is what do you guys think of people wanting

868
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,079
to storm Area fifty one? Perfectly my government I'm not

869
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:38,760
allowed to be involved in that, but I'm just joking.

870
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,039
But what do you guys think about it? What do

871
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:43,280
you guys think about that whole thing? And Natty, what

872
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,199
do you think is going to happen?

873
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,679
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think that that the military

874
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,440
has a vast array of deterrence from from different chemical

875
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,840
sprays to acoustic weapons all the way up to missiles

876
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,239
and all kinds of ugliness. And anybody that decides that

877
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,840
they're going to take a walk into a highly secure,

878
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,000
top secret base are probably looking them up in a

879
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,840
body bag. I think that's about the stupidest thing I've

880
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,920
heard in a long time. I think what will happen, though,

881
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,079
is that it'll be a bunch of people having a

882
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,559
festival outside of the gates, pooping all everywhere because there

883
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:19,519
won't be any kind of sanitation, and it'll just be

884
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,199
a huge mess, and it'll probably become the next Woodstock,

885
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,400
the original Woodstock. Yeah, you know.

886
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 6: The guy who set that up on Facebook actually came

887
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,119
out after he got he said, he said, after five

888
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,719
hundred thousand people, he looked up and he thought, you

889
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,559
know what, I might want to say something because I

890
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,519
don't want the alphabet soup knocking down my door. He

891
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,920
says it was done as a joke. There was only

892
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,559
originally like forty people who even liked it, and then

893
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,599
like a week later it just blew up, and he said,

894
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,440
I just wanted to say it's a joke, you know.

895
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,519
But they interviewed people from Rachel. Rachel, which is right

896
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,719
next to Roswell. In that area, there are fifty one

897
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,320
such like that, and they don't have the infrastructure to

898
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,880
hold a million people, much less five hundred thousand. They

899
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,480
just don't have the infrastructure. They'll crash. You know, they'll

900
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,840
they'll run out of food, they'll run out of sanitation.

901
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,559
You know, they won't have any water. The stores, the

902
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:20,679
stores and the little tiny town are going to be

903
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,599
sold out of everything. But what's the owner, I forget

904
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,360
her name, The owner of the Little Alien said it

905
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,159
would be great. She's she's been contacted by like four

906
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,199
or five different bands and wants to put on a festival.

907
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,960
So I think that's about as far as it's really

908
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,679
going to go, because, like like Brent said, you know,

909
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,320
all they have to do is fly a drone over

910
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
you and that's pretty much you're done business.

911
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can agree more. Well, I got to tick

912
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,480
off sellas. I'm gonna continue listening to the show, but

913
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,400
I get to get back to work.

914
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

915
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But thanks for calling in. It's great hearing from you.

916
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 6: So anyhow, I mentioned earlier that apparently moon dirt smells,

917
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,119
and it.

918
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 5: Says here, it says here. A big question, a big question.

919
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 6: A big question facing the NASA team planning Apollo eleven

920
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,920
moon landing was what would the Moon's surface be like?

921
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,079
Would the lander's leg touched down on firm ground or

922
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,639
sink into something soft. The surface turned out to be solid,

923
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,679
But the real surprise was the Moon had a smell.

924
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:31,679
Moon soil is extremely cleany and hard to brush off,

925
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,960
so when Armstrong and Aldron returned to the lunar module

926
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:40,239
and repressurized it, lunar dirt that had clung to the

927
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,559
men's suits entered the cabin and began to admit an odor.

928
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,320
The astronauts reported that it had a burned smell, like

929
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:52,239
wet fireplace ashes, or like air after a fireworks show.

930
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,000
Oh that does speak to a big giant fire, doesn't it,

931
00:50:56,639 --> 00:51:01,480
or maybe the super cooling of remains of the Earth

932
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:05,880
after it was hit by Neubiru. Scientists would never get

933
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,199
a chance to investigate just what the crew was smelling.

934
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,280
While the moon soil and the rock samples were sent

935
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,360
to the labs in sealed containers. Once they were opened

936
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,079
back on Earth, the smell was gone somehow, As Charles Fishman,

937
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,039
author of One Giant Leaf, says, the smell of the

938
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:27,400
Moon remained on the Moon. Now that's interesting, That is interesting.

939
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,440
I didn't actually know that.

940
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 5: Let's see here, it's kind of like what happens in

941
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Vegas stays, and.

942
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Speaker 6: Yeah, what happens on the Moon stays and moon you know,

943
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,679
and that's you know what, that's a very applicable saying

944
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,559
what happens on the moon stays on the moon. Apparently, Yeah,

945
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,719
because you know, I mean everything we've talked about tonight

946
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,760
about it. Another interesting fact, GfK was more focused on

947
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,000
beating the Soviets, beating the Soviets than in space. Well.

948
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Nixon was also that way too, and public President John F.

949
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Kennedy had oldly pledged that the United States would set

950
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sail on this new sea because there is new knowledge

951
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to be gained and the rights to be won, and

952
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they must be won and used for the progress of

953
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all people. But secret tapes of Kennedy's discussions were later

954
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,400
revealed that in private, JFK was less interested in space

955
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,320
exploration than one upping the Soviets. In a nineteen sixty

956
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two meeting with the advisors, his advisors, and NASA administrators,

957
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:32,119
JFK confessed, I'm not as in, I'm not that interested

958
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,400
in space, but he was interested in winning the Cold War.

959
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Just months after JFK's ignag inauguration inauguration, the Soviet Union

960
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had sent the first man into space. Kennedy asked his

961
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,480
Vice President, Lyndon B. Johnson how the US could score

962
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a win against the Soviets. One of the best ways

963
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to show US dominance, Johnson reported back, was by sending

964
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a manned mission to the Moon. Johnson in five act,

965
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how long had long been a space advocate? Can he

966
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,280
stay head?

967
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Speaker 7: He stated?

968
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Speaker 6: Control of control of space is control of the world. Hmmm,

969
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,760
that's omnous. Another interesting fact, the Soviets covered up their

970
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719
efforts to get to the Moon first. It turns out

971
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that the United States wasn't alone and wanting to demonstrate

972
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,280
its dominance by landing humans on the Moon. The Soviet

973
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,480
Union was also getting to accomplish this feat, but once

974
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:35,800
the US pronouts got there first, the Soviets tried to

975
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,480
keep up their efforts on the down low. At first,

976
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,760
secrecy was necessary so that no one could take take

977
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overtake us, wrote a Russian journalist in the Soviet newspaper

978
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called something Pravada. But later when they did overtake us,

979
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we had to maintain secrecy so that no one knew

980
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,360
that we had been overtaken. H it's that what people

981
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don't know don't know.

982
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: Well, what people don't know don't know.

983
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was clever. Astronauts trained for microgravity by walking sideways.

984
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How do you prepare to send someone to a place

985
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:24,199
no one has ever gone before? You send Kirk for

986
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NASA in the nineteen sixties, the answer was to create

987
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simulations that mimicked aspects of what astronauts could expect to encounter.

988
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Armstrong and Aldron rehearsed collecting samples on fake indoor moonscapes.

989
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Armstrong practiced taking off and landing in the Lunar land

990
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:44,599
Or training vehicle in Houston, and to simulate walking on

991
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:50,880
the Moon's lower gravity atmosphere, astronauts were suspended sideways by

992
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straps and then walked along a tiled wall. NASA and

993
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the US Geological Survey even blasted out craters at under

994
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Lake Arizona to create a landscape that matched part of

995
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the Moon's surface, because after all, practice makes perfect now,

996
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and that's where we see a lot of pictures of

997
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:15,239
like the three astronauts in their suit holding their helmets

998
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and a rover beside them. So people are like, yeah,

999
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,960
the moon landing really happened, because here they are, you know,

1000
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being able to breathe the atmosphere without helmets on. Well,

1001
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,719
you know, it also goes back to what I said

1002
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about Stanley Kubrick. You know, they had to train somewhere.

1003
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:39,880
So civil rights activists got a front row seat at

1004
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,199
the Apollo eleven launch. Not everyone was going ho about

1005
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:46,360
the US effort to land people on the Moon. A

1006
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,119
few days before the scheduled launch of Apollo eleven, a

1007
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:52,159
group of activists led by the civil rights leader Ralph

1008
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,320
Abernathy arrived outside the gates of Kennedy Space Center. They

1009
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,079
brought with them two mules, a wooden wagon, and a

1010
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:03,159
wooden wagon too, to illustrate the contrast between the gleaming

1011
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:08,239
white Saturn five rocket and families who couldn't afford food

1012
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,960
or a decent place to live. Amid the heady build

1013
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:18,480
up to the launch, the NASA administrator Thomas Paine came

1014
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:21,519
out to talk to the protesters face to face. After

1015
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:25,519
Pain and Abernathy talked for a while under lightly falling rain,

1016
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,239
Pain said he hoped that Abernathy would hitch his wag

1017
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,760
into our rocket, using the space program as a spur

1018
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to the nation to tackle problems boldly in other areas,

1019
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,320
and using NASA's space success as a yardstick by which

1020
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,119
progress in those other areas should be measured. Pain then

1021
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,280
arranged to have the members of the group attend the

1022
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,239
next day's launch from the VIP area. Abernathy prayed for

1023
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,440
the safety of the astronauts and said he was as

1024
00:56:56,519 --> 00:57:01,480
proud as anyone at the accomplishment. That's an interesting idea

1025
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,039
linking that together and using it as a yardstick to

1026
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,639
solve these things, because if a rocket to the Moon

1027
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,760
can prove one thing, it's it proves that we can

1028
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,480
do anything we need to, anything we can put our

1029
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:21,119
mind to, and taking care of the homeless, the people

1030
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,840
who are poor. You know, however you want to say that,

1031
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,280
you know, I don't know anyhow, but that is a

1032
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,639
great way to show that support. That's awesome. Yes, buzz

1033
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,800
Aldron took Holy Communion on the Moon. I didn't know that.

1034
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,000
When Apollo eleven's Eagle lunar module landed on the Moon

1035
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:45,400
on July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, astronauts Neil Armstrong and

1036
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,360
buzz Aldron had to wait before venturing outside. Their mission

1037
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,679
ordered them to take a pause before that big event.

1038
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,920
So Aldron used some of the some of the time

1039
00:57:56,039 --> 00:58:01,199
doing unexpected, doing so ill during to use some of

1040
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:05,320
the time doing something unexpected, something no man had ever

1041
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,320
attempted before. Alone, and overwhelmed by anticipation, he took part

1042
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,719
in the first Christian sacrament ever performed on the moon,

1043
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,960
the Rite of Christian Communion.

1044
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: Huh.

1045
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:21,039
Speaker 6: Interesting, that is interesting.

1046
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's pretty well.

1047
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. What day did they land?

1048
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:26,679
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1049
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 6: I have no idea forgot this day in this stay

1050
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,039
in space, just.

1051
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 5: This stay in history. Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's

1052
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,639
the fiftieth anniversary.

1053
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:35,039
Speaker 1: Is that?

1054
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 7: Is that?

1055
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:36,079
Speaker 5: Not today?

1056
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 6: Dude? The well, it's just the date is today? Okay?

1057
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:43,599
What day did the Titanic sink? No?

1058
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 5: No, look at this date in nineteen sixty nine? Was

1059
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:48,840
nineteen sixty nine?

1060
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,039
Speaker 7: Right?

1061
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: Seven twenty let's hold on, hold.

1062
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 6: On, I'm almost there.

1063
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:58,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you type, I.

1064
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:01,639
Speaker 6: Do type slow. It was it was July sixteenth, and

1065
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,119
then July twenty fourth, so those days. But what was

1066
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,719
the day is what I was asking? Was it a Sunday?

1067
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,599
Is my interest?

1068
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 5: Was it a Sunday?

1069
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 6: A Sunday?

1070
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 5: Sundays are Fundays Sunday.

1071
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:19,039
Speaker 6: I'm not going to find that very quickly, so I'm

1072
00:59:19,039 --> 00:59:19,840
going to skip that one.

1073
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: It was Sunday, July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine was a Sunday.

1074
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,000
There you go, I said, what day of the week

1075
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:29,400
was the first landing of the Moon. It was a Sunday.

1076
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 7: There you go.

1077
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:33,079
Speaker 5: I guess it was fitting to have a little church.

1078
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 6: There you go. Scientists were worried about space germs infecting Earth,

1079
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,719
which is actually a good thing to worry about. After

1080
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,320
risking their lives for the advancement of humanity, Armstrong, Aldarin,

1081
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,079
and Collins had the dubious pleasure of being stuck in

1082
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:55,960
planetary production quarantine on their return. Wow, that's an interesting

1083
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,559
for you. Since humans had never been to the Moon before,

1084
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:03,239
NASA scientists couldn't be sure that some deadly spaceborn plague

1085
01:00:03,639 --> 01:00:07,519
hadn't hitched a ride on the astronauts. As soon as

1086
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,320
the re entry capsule splashed down in the Pacific Ocean

1087
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,400
on July twenty fourth, the trio was transferred to a

1088
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:19,000
mobile quarantine facility inside, inside which they were transported to

1089
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:23,880
NASA Lunar Receiving Laboratory at Johnson Space Center, where they

1090
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,159
had access to a larger quarantine facility until their release

1091
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,679
on August tenth. Holy crap, they were in there for

1092
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:37,519
like two weeks. Wow, all right, And then this last

1093
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:41,679
one here. President Nixon was anxious the mission could fail.

1094
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,440
While President Kennedy had rallied the nation to land on

1095
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,480
the Moon, he was assassinated before he could see the

1096
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:52,519
Apollo mission achieve his vision. That nerve racking honor fell

1097
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:55,360
to President Richard Nixon, who had been elected in nineteen

1098
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,880
sixty eight. Watching Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron take the

1099
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:03,639
first steps on the Moon, Nixon's anxiety reached a peak.

1100
01:01:04,119 --> 01:01:07,679
If anything went wrong, he would have to manage America's

1101
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,320
outrage over billions of tax dollars accumulating in the death

1102
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:15,960
of two astronauts huh if at least two astronauts. His

1103
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:18,679
staff had prepared a statement to be read in the

1104
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,639
event the worst happened, and organized a priest to commit

1105
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:25,360
their souls to the deep, much like a burial at sea.

1106
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,639
Watching Apollo eleven live from the Moon, the president could

1107
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:33,119
only hope he wouldn't have to read it. He didn't.

1108
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,840
The men who traveled more than two hundred thousand miles

1109
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,840
to the Moon and then step foot on an alien

1110
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,280
world had survived, and the United States would go on

1111
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:44,400
to complete six crude missions that landed a total of

1112
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,679
twelve astronauts on the Moon from nineteen sixty nine to

1113
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,760
nineteen seventy two.

1114
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 7: Wow.

1115
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then they quit done and they just well

1116
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,000
don't have the technology to go back to the Moon.

1117
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 7: We know.

1118
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 6: I cannot believe that. I mean, we have even the

1119
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,920
Voyager sunatellites, we launched them, they went until they got

1120
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,519
out of the Solar System. How can we not How

1121
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,000
could we have lost that kind of technology to just

1122
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:15,280
put somebody on the Moon. I don't get it.

1123
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:18,199
Speaker 5: Wow, I don't want it. I don't know either.

1124
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 6: I think there I think they may just be holding

1125
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:31,079
on to those funds to possibly fund something else, like

1126
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,480
maybe Space Force.

1127
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 5: I love that name, space Force. That's totally like something

1128
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,960
you expect to come out of an elementary school. Me

1129
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,440
and Jimmy are going to make space Force.

1130
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,199
Speaker 6: Ma, I've got fifteen UFOs.

1131
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,599
Speaker 5: I've got fifteen space Force with me.

1132
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:53,039
Speaker 8: Come give me great.

1133
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 5: You do this so much better? But done anything.

1134
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,679
Speaker 6: In closing, thanks to Wes Garmmer for giving a call.

1135
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,519
It's always nice to talk to you, and he always

1136
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,559
brings interesting questions with him.

1137
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,639
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01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:10,280
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