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Speaker 6: Hey all, it's done with Paranormal Portal. Just want to
give you a little background on the episode tonight. Tonight,
our episode is going to start with a phone call
from mister Wes Germer Sasquash Chronicles, and he's gonna tell
us about a phone call he got about some folks
that wanted to discuss an incident that happened with them.
And then we're gonna move to Jess. Jess is our
friend from YouTube. She calls in and she wants to
talk about the moon. She's going to reference a picture
that we're gonna go ahead and put onto our Facebook
page that's going to be at www dot Facebook dot
com slash Paranormal Portal Radio, and if you'd like, you
can go there and check out that picture. And maybe
follow along with the podcast and understand what she's talking about. Otherwise,
it's a great picture. It is very descriptive, and I'm
sure you'll get the picture as we go along.
Speaker 5: So here we go.
Speaker 6: Let's go ahead and jump into this episode, and I
hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 5: We do have a call. Oh, so let's get to
this call and see what's going on. And this is anonymous.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: What's happening boys? How's it going? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Great brother?
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 7: Doing pretty good? But I thought i'd call it. I
had a cool story for you guys.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna er it tomorrow. And I was curious if
Brent or down you guys heard of such a thing.
This guy calls me and he's heading he's in Kentucky.
He's heading down these back roads. He's with his wife
and he's with his daughter, and he had it was
right as it was getting dark. I mean it was
basically dark at that point. The sun was just going down.
And as they're hiding down this road, this orange flying
thing and he said it was about five or six
inches big flies right in front of his truck. And
it's and I'll describe it in a second. But it
was long orange and it stopped in front of his
truck and it was fluttering its wings and keeping page.
Speaker 7: With the truck.
Speaker 8: And then he said, it put its body and it
shot straight in the air and took off.
Speaker 7: And I talked to the wife. I talked to the daughter, and.
Speaker 8: Basically, I mean you could hear in the background she's like,
don't forget to tell him it was glowing. It was
It wasn't just orange, it was good. And his daughters like, yeah,
it was glowing. It was glowing, and they've been driving
down the roads. Sheet again, but it kind of sounds
like what you would think of like a Disney fairy. Yeah,
that's kind of what he's describing. Wow, And I'd never
heard of such a thing. And he said it was
glowing orange and it fluttered right in front of the
truck and then put its wings down and shot straight
up and took off.
Speaker 7: And have you never heard of such thing? You know?
Speaker 5: I I don't think I've heard of a story like that.
Of course we've heard fairy stories. I don't know that
that many of them describe them as glowing though. So
that's what's interesting about this one. Did you get an
idea of the size of it, or did I miss that?
Speaker 6: I think you missed it. I think he said six inches.
Speaker 5: Six inches Okay, yeah, I mean that that would certainly big. Yeah, yeah,
that would certainly fit what most people describe the fairies
to be as far as their size. You know, people
do say that they shimmer, and I guess that could
be interpreted as glowing as well. But wow, that's really intense.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're heading down the road that they've been driving
that same road every night to see if they could
see it again. But one thing that's interesting is he
said when it took off and they kept going straight,
they were coming up to a dead end, and he said,
the whole atmosphere changed. He felt like they were in danger.
Something terrible was around that I couldn't put my finger
on it. But they did a ui and left. But
I was just curiously because I've ever heard of such
a thing. A lot of times you look up fairy
lower it sounds like aliens. It really doesn't sound like fairies.
They fly around in flying machines that kidnap people. That's
what the ancient writing say.
Speaker 5: Well, you also did a story where a guy saw
a little creature and it ran and jumped into this
barrel thing and then shot up into the sky. Right,
do you recall that one?
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 5: I mean that sounds like that to me too, And
you know, I guess it's possible. That is just wild though,
to think that that, you know, they're they're out there
and they might be from way out there, you.
Speaker 8: Know, well you know.
Speaker 6: And then Jim, Jim Mount also talks about you know
that the flying orbs with the living plasma around it,
they're not very big. I think he said they're less
than a foot and they have the different colors. They
have the orange, the red, the blue, the green.
Speaker 5: Remember, Oh yeah, I thought you said they're like four
feet in diameter.
Speaker 6: Though, oh maybe that was that was maybe that was correct.
So but anyhow, maybe maybe something like that.
Speaker 5: Yes, crazy, that is wild?
Speaker 7: Are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Don Oh, we have a we have a friend.
Speaker 6: His name is Jim Mount, and he's been on the show.
It's in the archive on YouTube, and he talked about
the different alien orbs and how they have living plasma
as kind of a sen a shield and this plasma
probably pretty much go through anything organic and they they
have different colors for the different states of activity, like
blue is everything's cool, everything's good, Red is like hunter
killer mode. Oranges I don't remember, but he goes through though,
He goes through like five or six different colors, and
he talks about these orbs being of extraterrestrial origin.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, I told you know. I didn't have
an answer for him. I'd never heard of such a
thing before.
Speaker 8: But it really wasn't And I asked him too, I
still wasn't like a ball of light, He said, no,
it had like a form, almost like a person, but
it had wings and it was really small, and you know,
obviously he's seen hummingbirds before.
Speaker 7: He was like, it was no bird. The thing was
not a bird. And I was going down the list
of things that could be.
Speaker 8: He was like, no way, no way, no way, and
he's like, it glowed red. It I'm sorry, glowed orange.
It lit up in an orange color and it was glowing.
Speaker 7: And so I don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5: All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. And mister Germot
couldn't hold on, but he had things he had to do.
But thanks so much for calling in and sharing that story.
Brother we appreciate it. That is wild. I don't know,
you know, I believe those things are out there. I
believe there's all kinds of things out there, and it's
hard to wrap your head around a lot of it,
just because it flies in the face of so much
of our Western sensibilities. I guess, right, done, Yes, do
you have Western sensibilities?
Speaker 6: Done? No, but I have no sensibilities. But you know,
and you're right, you know, it just flies in the
face of everything we know or everything we've been taught,
you know. So yeah, absolutely, it's it's always always a
sideways thing, so.
Speaker 5: Right, but it's very cool. Good to hear from you.
I just it's just another amazing piece of punctuation on
a real amazing day. We've been busy and doing a
lot of different things. But it's always great, not only
to have been on the big Foot Odyssey, but now
to have heard from West as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been it's been a great day.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like wow, all right, So we
got another phone call coming in and this looks like
it might be Jess, but hello four ag zero you're
on the air.
Speaker 9: Hi, guys. I wanted to wish you the happy happiest
fiftieth anniversary of the Paulo Moonelan.
Speaker 5: Or or is it was it?
Speaker 7: Or did it? Did it? Land? No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 9: I believe I think I think they did. And they
found some company on the Moon that they couldn't talk
about until way past retirement.
Speaker 5: Right right, well, you know again, our friend Jim Mount
who Donald was referring earlier, actually sent in the picture
apparently hand hand given to him by Edgar Mitchell that
shows a photograph of Neil Armstrong standing in front on
the surface of the Moon, standing in front of an
ancient structure. I think I still have that somewhere too,
I can pull it up.
Speaker 8: And I did.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I did see a picture of an astronaut looking
at h a humanoid corpse.
Speaker 6: That was the apost dug up and it was on
the Moon.
Speaker 9: And then then there was footage of astronauts walking around
this like like rough version of a condo you know,
that was on the Moon. You know, they didn't build
build it. It was somebody else, right right, some other right.
And then there was another mission that was confronted with
what on the dark side of the Moon, aliens like spaceship.
Speaker 5: That's the stories. Yeah, it's it's hard to know what's
going on out there, but apparently there's a lot going
on out.
Speaker 9: There on the Yeah, that is a lot, but it's
it's it's fascinating and interesting. But I think they were
on the moon. There were several missions.
Speaker 5: Oh sure, Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 7: I don't doubt that.
Speaker 5: I know there's some people that want, you know, like
to throw a conspiracy theory at that, but I'm not
one of them. I think that we went there. I
don't know what we found. I've heard a lot of
the reports, but apparently there's a lot more going up
and going on up there than we thought though.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but I thought it was fascinating and I
thought i'd call in during the anniversary of the Oh
for sure, first man on the Moon landing. And you know,
I find I find all the space travel fascinating and
all that.
Speaker 5: Right, Absolutely, I'm on this, John.
Speaker 6: Oh my thoughts. My thoughts are we were definitely there.
I think the problem is, you know, people talk about
Stanley Kubrick doing it, doing a moon shoot in the
basement somewhere, and I think I think that may be
true to a point, and I think it might nobody
comes out of my basement, but me anyhow, because because
if they do, they're probably taking things with them, like
you know, meet from the freezer, which they probably shouldn't do.
Speaker 5: The still you know that anyhow, that's the cover story anyway.
Speaker 6: That's yeah, well, that's yeah, that's the disinformation. So but
I think the Stanley Kubrick conspiracy, I think it may
be true that there was something that happened like that,
but I think it's because just like you said, that,
they couldn't show the footage that they really had, so
they had to make up something to show America because
it was such a pivotal point in our history that
they had to have some kind of footage. So they remade,
you know, they they made the sound stage and this,
that and the other, and they did a little you know,
eight second, you know, five minute video basically of a
supposed the suppose the moon landing. I'm not going to
say suppose it, because I believe they were there, but
I believe that they couldn't use that footage for security reasons,
so they had they basically contract somebody else to do
a shoot. Basically. Now I think.
Speaker 9: Actually they weren't just trying to impress some TV.
Speaker 6: Well that's true.
Speaker 5: That's true too.
Speaker 6: They were impressing the entire world, which was the point.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Now Brent's about to put up that picture on YouTube.
Oh it's up right now. I think that's edgar Mitchell.
Speaker 5: Actually, edgar Mitchell gave gave Jim this. But this is
Neil Armstrong and his driver he's holding and gentlemen. And
this is this was hand given to our friend Jim
by edgar Mitchell down in Florida. He bumped into him
at a conference and talked with him at length, and
edgar Mitchell gave him this photo. I do believe Jim
Jim is legit. I mean, I have no doubt that
what he says happened happened. I've known Jim for years.
But this is his golf club. Apparently he's got his
golf club with him and this is the structure that
they found. Now, this was really a great honor to
get this picture in to be able to show it
on the show. And once again, Jim, thank you for that.
It's it's just an amazing piece. Yeah, it really is.
And if you zoom in, I mean I looked at
this for you know, at least a half hour looking
for any kind of any kind of holes or something
in the way the light is hitting it, any you know,
the pixelizations that would show that it was fabricated. And
I can't find anything under any exposures to show that
it's a hoax. But but yeah, this is an amazing picture.
Speaker 6: That's awesome.
Speaker 9: Also, there's another thing they I heard some recordings that
they tried to cover up to, you know, well astronauts saying.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they was they switched over to
the medical line to talk about it, and that's the
line that was not being that's the private line.
Speaker 7: So yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: So yeah, there was a lot going on up there
that we probably don't know about.
Speaker 9: This is an awesome picture.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: It's it's one of the if it if it is
a hoax, it was one. I can't see anything rudimentally
about it.
Speaker 9: Took the photo, Digger Dog, yes too, took the photo.
Speaker 5: It's Armstrong in the picture. But Mitchell took the photo.
So this is a photo. So apparently this is a
photo that Edgar Mitchell himself took.
Speaker 6: So that is incredible. Yep.
Speaker 7: So you're seeing, now, what do you.
Speaker 9: Think about the moon itself. Do you think it's.
Speaker 5: A planet or the interesting The interesting thing about the moon.
The interesting thing about the moon is that it's actually
allegedly millions of years older than the Earth, so it
came apparently from somewhere else. The other interesting thing about
the moon is that it defies the physics astrophysics for
a moon circling a planet, because normally they're much much
smaller in the scale to the planet they circle, and
this one, I.
Speaker 6: Think it's like exactly a third of the mass.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, like that, And moon's natural moons orbiting a
planet are normally much much smaller in comparison to the
actual mass of the planet. So there's a lot of
things wrong with our moon.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: It's that's a millionaire year old mooning us, right right,
Well apparently, yeah, it was moon and long before we
were out there, apparently.
Speaker 6: Well, you know exactly, you know, actually, the first nations
have stories, the first nations have stories of the sky
without a moon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they have stories of when the moon came ye.
So and those are you know, a verbal tradition going back,
you know, a long, long, long time. So I'm not
sure how there was another.
Speaker 9: Theory there's another theory that a planet collided with Mars
or something whe moon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, actually, yeah, that that story is actually like,
originally the planet was called Tiamot and it was hit
supposedly Bybiru. It was actually struck and what happened was
Biu took out a chunk and this is it had
to be when the Earth was still cooling or something
like that. The idea is is that Tamot spun itself
back into a sphere and became the Earth, and then
it had an asteroid field that eventually somehow regathered and
became the Moon. So that's kind of the story and
different different ideas on that story, but that's pretty much
the idea. But yeah, so Tiamat and Nibiru, and there's
also a theory that that's what caused human life on
the Earth.
Speaker 7: Uh huh oh wow.
Speaker 9: There's all kinds of different stories.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is. There's a lot of different ideas of
the slave race, the planet x blah blah blah, mining
for gold. Uh yeah, and the yeah, the reptilians. I
mean that the list of ideas goes on and on
and on and on, and I don't pretend to have
any idea which one of them is right, or if
any of them are. But I just think they're They're
all very interesting and they all have a merit of
their own. So I'm not, you know, outright discounting any
of them either. I just don't know, and I don't
pretend to know, but really interesting stuff.
Speaker 9: I'm just kicking around ideas myself.
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting, absolutely cool.
Speaker 5: Very cool. Well, thank you for calling, Jess. It's great
to hear from you. All right, all right, all right,
all right, all right, thanks yess. But yeah, that that
photo that blows me away, don.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And it's so awesome that it was given
to us to to use. You know, it's just amazing
the things that we don't think about, you know. And
like I said, you know, it was supposedly Stanley Kubrick.
Did you know that, you know, of fake landing and
some things, and that would show exactly why they did
that kind of thing, was to cover it up, not
necessarily cover it up, but not be able to tell
the story you know at the time.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: So I wonder why though, you know, I mean, why
why was it Why wouldn't they just be like, hey,
check it out. We found this stuff up there. Yeah,
you know, I mean, I don't understand that.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's a strange thing. You know, we were
really innocent, I would say, we were still really innocent
as a civilization at the time, even though it was
only like what sixty years ago, But we were kind
of innocent and a lot of belief that there there
that there's only one God, shall I say, and and
there's no aliens. But you know, we've talked about this before,
people like Art Bell and and these other radio hosts
and folks brought this into the light, drug it kicking
and screaming in the light. And now we're at a
spot where we can actually we're actually getting this information.
So I think I think it was just for the
protection of civilization as we know it. But it's time
to move beyond.
Speaker 2: It is it is?
Speaker 5: I see, uh, I see Paisley entered in there. She's
in the chat room. Yep, Paisley's There're people do crazy
things when they're afraid. You're absolutely right, they do. And
I give you that. I I don't disagree that people
it would create fear to know that. But you know,
at the same time, we do know things that have
made us afraid, and we've we've been okay, We've managed
to make it through. You know, our civilizations are certainly
not devoid of tragedy and horror, right, but somehow we
always make it through. But I think, you know, the
idea that it's, you know, we need to somehow be
protected and umbrellaed from all this, right unless there's something
really horrible going on that they're just not ready to
let us know about it. And then and then it's okay,
keep covering up. I'm good, you know.
Speaker 6: There, and we come back to some as we come
back to the idea that some people just aren't open
to it, right, and and the fear thing, you know,
it's like there are a lot of people who just
don't want to know, like you said, you know anything.
And then there are some people who want to say
this is real, but that's not and that's not that's
not really acceptable, you know. So you know, it's it's
a matter of bringing things into the light, and you
got to prove it, you gotta you gotta show the
hard evidence to a lot of people, you know. And
I'm one of those people, you know, I'm one of
those people. If you show me a piece of evidence
that I can believe. I believe, sure know. So interesting.
Did you know moon moon dirt smells?
Speaker 5: I didn't because I haven't smelled any I don't know.
This is kind of cool. The Weird the Weird Desk
US says private contractors told our joints chiefs of staff
they didn't have a need to know or the clearance,
and that's you know, I'm not sure that. I think
he's on the same same line of conversation as we are.
And I find that incredibly interesting that they're contractors and
they could say, well, you don't need to know, So
who were they contracting to exactly? And who does need
to know? That's what I'm wondering about. But I think
that gets into more of the the whole behind the
curtain well black projects kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, and even back then we had private
contractors that built the different things that went to the Moon,
of course, and you know, knowledge is power. So if
if private corporation can tell the US government or the
chiefs of staff in this case, you know that, well,
we're not going to share it with you because you
know you don't need to know, because you know we're
going to hold on to it maybe for maybe for
our monetary gain, or for when we feel it's time
to disclose this information. You know, there's a lot of
speculation there, and you know, no matter who it came from,
it happened, and that's all that matters right now.
Speaker 5: Right, But what do you think about the breakaway space program?
Then you know that's that kind of plays hand in
hand with what we're talking about.
Speaker 7: Though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're absolutely right, you know, and I talked about
it earlier. Oh so we I was alluding to about
how you know, there are different types of spacecraft. There's
atmospheric which can come in and out of the Earth's atmosphere,
Mars atmospheres, whatever, and then they're the big ones you
talked about like Independence Day and the giant motherships. You know,
those have to be built in space because they can't
break atmosphere. They're too big, they're too slow, and they're
not they're not really made for because once you get
it up in space, you can make You can make
this giant disc and only weighs like five pounds, you know,
but if it was on the Earth, it'd be too
big to move. And so where the hell was like, oh,
with this.
Speaker 5: I was wondering the same thing. It's like, how is
that a breakaway space program?
Speaker 6: Oh? Oh so, but this is where I was going.
So part of the ict, some of the idea is
is that that's with this moon walk and this this
space exploration was the precursor to possibly something more, the
idea that possibly there's something more than the iss up there,
as in maybe, like I don't know, a space vehicle building, port,
space vehicle manufacturing that can't be manufactured on Earth because
of gravity, atmosphere, things like that. You know, you can
do a whole lot of things in zero G and
you can do them a whole lot easier, with a
whole lot less. Sure, and so maybe you know, we
were talking about, oh, breakaway space, so you can. So
you can build these things out in in space, whether
it be just outside of the atmosphere between here and
the moon or past the moon on the dark side
of the moon, the quote unquote dark side of the moon,
and nobody will ever notice. So a breakaway civilization or
a breakaway you know, or a secret space program you know,
very doable, very doable, expensive, but very doable.
Speaker 5: I'm looking this up because all of this is mostly
video links, but it was it was weird, weird, weird, weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, weird desk, weird desk.
Speaker 5: So read the Admiral Wilson leaked document from Edward Mitchell
Edgar Mitchell's archives, and I did pull up a link,
but it's a lot of YouTube stuff. I'm just looking
to see it if there's a pdf. Admiral Wilson notes,
let's see if I can find something that I can.
Speaker 8: Think you figured out.
Speaker 5: Get that off there. Apparently I would have to look
forward before a show and not during a show, so
that's not gonna work. But thank you for that reference
and we will definitely look into that for future discussions.
But yeah, that's crazy, lots of weirdness going on. So,
you know, do you believe don there is a breakaway?
Speaker 6: You know what? And I just read this that it
was Marcus Aurelius. He said the breakaway is from millions
of years ago. Now that's also something that hasn't been
brought up too. We've never really discussed We don't really
discuss like ancient civilizations, the rise and fall in human
life or life on the planet, you know, and so
but we talked about ancient aliens, we talk about you know,
the Onanaki. You know, we don't know how long ago
they were here. We don't know. There's no real record.
There's just passed down information, passed down history, you know,
and we can only extrapolate from that. But that is
a good point. That is a good point that it
may be from millions of years ago, before the Fall,
before the rise, I should say, of modern man, because
we really don't know how old the sinx is. We
know it's older than twenty five thousand years though, because
of the waterwear on it, it makes absolutely no sense
that type of waterware.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it may have been before the.
Speaker 6: Age of modern man. Absolutely. Wes said, it's like element
fifty one isn't from here. I'm sorry, element fifty one,
element one point fifteen isn't from here. We can I
think the idea is that we can synthesize it, but
we can't actually make it, or we can mine it.
That's another thing we don't ever talk about is mining asteroids.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: So there are just lots of ideas that all of
these things happened before the age of modern man, and
we only have, like I said, the pass down history.
You put it in front of me, or you give
me a fact that I can believe. I am all
for the idea, you know, of finding out and having
that disclosure and finding out you know, what races are
with us here. You know, the Chinese have said for
sixty years that, yeah, they live in the open, but
of course we're not allowed into Red China, so you know,
it's a bit of a problem.
Speaker 5: You know, just I wonder, does that means that they
look like people but they're just they just regard them
as aliens, or do they look like aliens just hanging
out with people?
Speaker 6: You know, That's that's an interesting thing. You know, there
are supposedly a lot of races that are very very
human like right annoyed. So you know, maybe those are
the ones that came in peace, like say Valiant thor
you know, and Jane and Dawn, you know, they all
came down and we're talking with Eisenhower and basically the
you know, basically the government decided to go with the
other option, which was being apparently offered by the Grays
for lack of better term, because it really isn't one yet.
But so there you have it. You know, there's all
kinds of speculation and and supposes and extrapolations.
Speaker 5: You know, So right now, what was interesting though, wasn't
Vellian thor from from Venus?
Speaker 6: That's what was Venusian? Yeah, supposedly, as I understand it
through my research, it lived in the interior of Venus.
So why can't there be an interior.
Speaker 7: Of the Earth.
Speaker 5: I think there is? I think there is.
Speaker 6: I agree, I agree. So does that bring up the
question that maybe some of these aliens aren't necessarily extraterrestrial?
Speaker 5: But that's the natural progression I'm saying. Yeah, so there
is that, ladies and gentlemen. So tonight we're talking about
a lot of things, but we are currently just getting
into the whole ancient civilizations and how long has things
been around? What's going on here?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 5: You know, you talk about things like don like Puma Punka.
It was kind of a lot on Ancient Aliens with
Georgie Sucluse. I know, he's like, it's like he's licking
electrical sockets before he comes on. Okay, ready to go.
But yeah, I mean I love that show and I've
watched tons of them, but I find the arguments really
really compelling, and just in terms of if there is
evidence of people having been helped through the AONs by
these other worldly intelligences or advanced intelligence anyway. But we
just kind of brushed on the idea that there's maybe
people inside the world too, and maybe those people inside
the world are way ahead of us as well. You know,
maybe maybe they were able to get a head start
because they didn't have glaciers rolling over them, you know,
and maybe that helped them get a little ahead of us.
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, that's actually an interesting thought. You know, that
they were protected from dare I say, mud floods or
you know, you know, the melting of the glaciers that
cut the valleys through Montana and Idaho and Washington and
all over. You know, you know, maybe that didn't affect
them so much. You know, maybe they didn't have an
issue with the forty days and forty night deluge. Who knows,
but you know, yeah, it's it's quite possible that we've
been wiped out, like you know, the crust, the crust Walkers,
the Eloy crust Walkers, I have been wiped out and remade,
wiped out, remade, wiped out, remade. But the morlocks in
the center of the Earth is.
Speaker 5: Now what you call the guy at the end of
the subway line. That's the crust walker.
Speaker 7: Sorry, it just came to me. I had to roll
with it.
Speaker 5: I had to try, I had to the gap. What
did you say about.
Speaker 6: Eloy, Eloy Eloy the crust walkers?
Speaker 5: Is that seriously a term? I've not heard this.
Speaker 6: It's it's a reference to the time machine by George orwell, oh,
the Eloi and the Morlock.
Speaker 5: Oh gotcha, gotcha? Okay, continue.
Speaker 6: But you know, so we've been wiped out, you know,
the crust of the earth people's have been wiped out.
But yet, you know, the the hollow Earth people have
been you know, building their civilization for million years. You know,
who knows. So maybe that might be part of the
breakaway civilization as well. Have you ever thought of that.
Maybe they went underground to break away from society because
they saw the warnings of what may be coming, or
you know, maybe they you know, didn't agree with the
people that walked the earth at the time and they
So there's another idea of breakaway civilization for.
Speaker 5: You, that is that's that's kind of an interesting one.
So the glaciers descended from the north down right now,
isn't there Allegedly an entrance to inner Earth up in
the North Pole area somewhere.
Speaker 6: And somebody just mentioned Admiral Bird.
Speaker 5: So yes, that's that's Antarctica though, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's wasn't it? Or did he go north I don't remember.
I thought he went down to Antarctica.
Speaker 6: Somebody's laughing. Oh, the weird desk is laughing at me.
Crest Walker's that's funny.
Speaker 5: He said. It's a tea shirt.
Speaker 6: Oh that's not a bad idea, thank you. I'll have
to work on that, you know, or a bumper sticker.
I'm a Crestwalker.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, we might as well try to market the
hell out of it, you know, and ladies and gentlemen,
the idea of Now, I've been thinking this for a
long time, ever since I learned about the artifacts out
of time and the idea that there are screws embedded
in coal and things like that, and machined aluminum parts
found next to mastadon skulls in you know, different parts
of the world. Oh my god, we've got some calls by. Oh,
let's get to these and see what people are thinking
out there. So the first one is from Anonymous. Anonymous
Anonymous is on the.
Speaker 8: Line, Hey guys, sorry, I'm multitasking listening to the show,
and I meant this is Wes by the way, I
meant to call in before the break.
Speaker 7: You guys should do a show on val Thor. Oh, yeah,
it's a great story.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when I'm glad because there's a lot of weird
things with that story when you dig into it, like
Valthor a picture of him from like the late forties
and a picture of him from like the sixties. He
has not aged one bit, And there's weird things. I
now started acting really weird around that time. He started
making a lot of weird decisions, and.
Speaker 7: So there's a lot.
Speaker 8: You know, it might all be a BS, but there's
a lot of weird things around that story.
Speaker 7: But I was going to call in and tell you guys.
Speaker 8: When I interviewed Travis Walton the Fire in the Sky,
when the ship docked with the bigger ship and he
got out and he was trying to he didn't know
where he was at.
Speaker 7: He was trying to run.
Speaker 8: He ran into what he describes as a human being.
He said, the guy really good. Look I the guy
really didn't kind of looked at him with an empathetic type.
Speaker 7: Look.
Speaker 8: But I said, if this guy was walking down New York,
would anyone think anating strange or walking down in LA
would he?
Speaker 7: He goes, no, he looked just like you were me.
Speaker 8: But he could tell you know, he grabbed him by
the arm and walked him back in to the smaller craft.
Speaker 7: But you guys should do a story on Valtour. It's
a really cool story. Man.
Speaker 5: We'll have to dig into that. And you know, the
funny thing is, Wes We've heard, I've heard and you
know in my years of checking into UFO and encounter
stories and such, that there are a lot of people
that encounter human looking people and like people in different
stages of human and alien like it like it's a
hybrid program, you know, like where they're creating a hybrid species.
And I wonder if that's what Travis ran into, was
like a hybrid.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, I asked him, and he said
it looked very human. Everything about this thing looked very
human like, So I you know, I's to say, I
really don't know. I think the creating a hybrid thing
is a story as old as time. Just like Donn
had mentioned George orwell well he that story's actually has
been around way longer before George showed up on the scenes.
That's when ancient writings. George just gave it different names.
He gave in the Eloys and you know, he kind
of spun the story a little bit, but that actually
comes from somewhere.
Speaker 7: He didn't just dream that up one day.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, but things right, you know, it's just oh,
I'm sorry, Yeah, I don't mean to I don't mean
to interrupt you, sir, But the First Nations have a
lot of stories of going back to the deluge. I
believe it's the hope he war uh helped by the
ant people that took them underground and got them through
a time of destruction. And so you know, it's it's
a good it's not a far leap. It's a good
thought line of thought that says that these people that
helped the Hope are from the center of the Earth
or you know, hollow Earth, whatever you want to call that. So, yeah,
it you're right, it does come before before or well
Bhesa socialized it because that's what he does, you know.
But yeah, there's a lot of stories. As a matter
of fact, there's another First nations and I can't I'm
not going to say anything about who it is because
I can't remember. That tells a similar one of not
ant people. Were they lizard people? I can't remember, But yeah, yeah,
you're absolutely right, and I agree. Yeah, and you know,
George Orwell did his thing, you know, and brought it
to light. But people don't connect things like that. They
just don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, I think a lot of those those stories go
back to even the giants. If you go outside of
the Bible and you see in these ancient texts, the
giants were having nightmares that a flood was coming and
everyone was going to be They actually had this nightmare
that kind of goes in the whole story of how
Enoch gets involved with the Nephelum. But they started having
visions of it. But if you read some of the
ancient texts, and if you buy into it, some of
those supposedly fallen angels put their sons into in the
earth before the flood came. To the Bible, they were
there before and after. It's not like, well, the flood
took care of it. It really didn't take care of it,
because it says before and after, and it's weird when
you start hearing rumors of the military finding these giants
like in deep underground caverns and they're in a state
of stasis. Now, whether you buy that or not, it's
kind of weird riding rumors of this now, and then
when you start looking at the history. Maybe it's not
as crazy as it might sound him. You know, maybe
it is, but it's kind of weird how different things.
It's kind of like when they found Nimrod's body. The
lady it was the day before we went in Iraq,
by the way, but the lady who dug him up
said he looked like he had died yesterday. He wasn't decayed,
he hadn't been there for thousands and thousands of years.
It looked like he had died yesterday. And what's weird
is there's a military base now on top of his tomb.
Us military base, but that's a whole notherhole. There's a
weird couple things with pictures. And you know, I'm fifty
to fifty sometimes on the Bible, but there's a verse
in Revelation. It talks about the Antichrist and don't go
looking for him, you'll find him in the desert, and
then it talks about him being surrounded by eagles, and
there's a picture of the US military all standing around
Nimrod's tomb and what's on their uniforms? And wonder, you know,
if Beth Miller can go through and recreate her dog
three times over, you know, through DNA. Yeah, why couldn't
we take some and recreate Nimrod if we wanted to?
Speaker 5: Sorry, that's cool. It all plays out perfectly.
Speaker 6: Well. You know, when they're trying to bring back Willie Mammos.
You know, what was the guy's name, destination Josh, Yeah,
Josh Gates, you know, he he he was over like
Siberia and they were digging up mammoth tusks and skulls
and bones, and they they believe they found liable mammoth DNA.
So if they can clone a mammoth from frozen DNA,
then why couldn't they if they find the body of somebody,
say the Giants or Nimrod, it's not far fetched to
think that they could basically reawaken him through DNA cloning.
I mean, they've already cloned things. There's already cloned things
in the world. It's not a possibility it's a fact.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so well it is. I think the process still
has to come a long way before that, but you know,
it's definitely coming. Well, I mean, just as far as
we know, as far as we know, as far as
we know part of that discusion. God only knows what
they can do and what they can what they've already reanimated. God,
when I see these cryptodales, I'm pretty sure somebody's messing
around in a lab somewhere, because there's weird grap everywhere.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 6: We also had somebody calling to the show one time
and told us about how I think it was his
father or grandfather. I maybe miss saying this, but basically
he said that big fit, big, big sasquatches.
Speaker 5: Are they big feet?
Speaker 6: I don't know what's what's a group of bigfoot called anyway,
but sasquatches come from inside the earth. And this is
one theory that they had, is that they're not necessarily
crust dwellers, but they do come up to the surface
for whatever it may be. So there's there's been speculation
that they are from the middle of the Earth or
you know, hollow earth. So that's another thing that was
mentioned briefly on a passed episode.
Speaker 5: So your thoughts, mister Grimmer, Yeah, I don't know that
I have much.
Speaker 7: I mean, I've had a.
Speaker 8: Not a demonologist or I don't know how you guys
Getlia terms the psychic. She wasn't a psychic, but she
thought she would going to get rid of pultergeish. She's
like a ghostbuster. I guess she had made that comment
that and she actually got rid of them, but she
had the sasquatches, I mean, and she had made the
comment same thing. They're coming in up out of the earth.
And so it makes you wonder the hell's going on.
Speaker 7: You know, the hollow earth theory. I know a lot of.
Speaker 8: People kind of mocked that, and I sat and I
watched this whole video not to send you guys. It's
pretty fascinating. The scientist explains why the earth is hollow,
and he does it through earthquakes. And he was talking
about if I take a rock and I throw in
a pond, that wave's going to go all the way
to you know, almost endless.
Speaker 7: The wave's going to keep.
Speaker 8: Going until obviously at some point runs out. But you
can throw a rock in a pond and have that
wave go all the way across the pond. And he
was talking about how earthquakes that if there's an earthquake
in California, they should fill it on the other side
of the globe if it wasn't hollow, because there's nowhere
for that earthquake to go. It's that big pond videos
because it's hollow when there's an earthquake. That's why earthquakes
are concentrated in one area. You know, California has a
six point nine, yet up here in Washington we don't
fill it. You know, we have no clue there was
an earthquake. Sure, And you know, I don't know if
it's the whole hollow earth thing it's sure or not.
I'm not a scientist, but it was very fascinating to
watch him explain this hollow earth theory and why and
he does it through earthquakes and he does it through
science and explains why it's hollow, and you know, I
thought it was fascinating.
Speaker 7: It is. I don't know how I got off on
that tangent.
Speaker 5: No, but that's cool because we have We had a
guest on the show, Brooks Agnew, and we did we
just released that as a podcast just recently. But he
talked about he's a big hollow earth person. He's a
scientist as well as an entrepreneur, inventor and et cetera,
et cetera. But he was talking about how deep deep
water seismographs have actually recorded waves hitting the shore on
an underground ocean, so there's apparently entire oceans underneath the crust.
And he was talking about gravitation and stuff, and he's
he's like, at some point, as you go through the
seven hundred miles of crust, you're going to hit a
point of like zero gravity, because then when you get
inside the crust, you'd actually be drawn towards the outer
side of the crust, the right, the greater mass. So
he was talking about how it's widely believed there's oceans
in there. He talked about how there could be photosynthesis
due to I forget, what is the iron iron iron core,
the iron core. It shines like the sun, right, it
shines as the sun like a sun because of its
it's uh, you know, the temperature and what was going on.
He explains to science so much better than I ever could.
But I mean, it's all possible, it's all feasible that
this is going on and something's under there. And he's
talked about how like these these manta rays or whatever
came out and they were recording them when the sea
ice receded. Suddenly in the Arctic, the sea ice receded
and all of these mantas were coming from somewhere.
Speaker 6: Fifteen hundred different species.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen hundred different species were just suddenly emerging. And
they believe that that could be from the inner ocean.
So very wild stuff.
Speaker 8: It is wild stuff. One thing I'll leave you guys
with is what do you guys think of people wanting
to storm Area fifty one? Perfectly my government I'm not
allowed to be involved in that, but I'm just joking.
But what do you guys think about it? What do
you guys think about that whole thing? And Natty, what
do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think that that the military
has a vast array of deterrence from from different chemical
sprays to acoustic weapons all the way up to missiles
and all kinds of ugliness. And anybody that decides that
they're going to take a walk into a highly secure,
top secret base are probably looking them up in a
body bag. I think that's about the stupidest thing I've
heard in a long time. I think what will happen, though,
is that it'll be a bunch of people having a
festival outside of the gates, pooping all everywhere because there
won't be any kind of sanitation, and it'll just be
a huge mess, and it'll probably become the next Woodstock,
the original Woodstock. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: The guy who set that up on Facebook actually came
out after he got he said, he said, after five
hundred thousand people, he looked up and he thought, you
know what, I might want to say something because I
don't want the alphabet soup knocking down my door. He
says it was done as a joke. There was only
originally like forty people who even liked it, and then
like a week later it just blew up, and he said,
I just wanted to say it's a joke, you know.
But they interviewed people from Rachel. Rachel, which is right
next to Roswell. In that area, there are fifty one
such like that, and they don't have the infrastructure to
hold a million people, much less five hundred thousand. They
just don't have the infrastructure. They'll crash. You know, they'll
they'll run out of food, they'll run out of sanitation.
You know, they won't have any water. The stores, the
stores and the little tiny town are going to be
sold out of everything. But what's the owner, I forget
her name, The owner of the Little Alien said it
would be great. She's she's been contacted by like four
or five different bands and wants to put on a festival.
So I think that's about as far as it's really
going to go, because, like like Brent said, you know,
all they have to do is fly a drone over
you and that's pretty much you're done business.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can agree more. Well, I got to tick
off sellas. I'm gonna continue listening to the show, but
I get to get back to work.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But thanks for calling in. It's great hearing from you.
Speaker 6: So anyhow, I mentioned earlier that apparently moon dirt smells,
and it.
Speaker 5: Says here, it says here. A big question, a big question.
Speaker 6: A big question facing the NASA team planning Apollo eleven
moon landing was what would the Moon's surface be like?
Would the lander's leg touched down on firm ground or
sink into something soft. The surface turned out to be solid,
But the real surprise was the Moon had a smell.
Moon soil is extremely cleany and hard to brush off,
so when Armstrong and Aldron returned to the lunar module
and repressurized it, lunar dirt that had clung to the
men's suits entered the cabin and began to admit an odor.
The astronauts reported that it had a burned smell, like
wet fireplace ashes, or like air after a fireworks show.
Oh that does speak to a big giant fire, doesn't it,
or maybe the super cooling of remains of the Earth
after it was hit by Neubiru. Scientists would never get
a chance to investigate just what the crew was smelling.
While the moon soil and the rock samples were sent
to the labs in sealed containers. Once they were opened
back on Earth, the smell was gone somehow, As Charles Fishman,
author of One Giant Leaf, says, the smell of the
Moon remained on the Moon. Now that's interesting, That is interesting.
I didn't actually know that.
Speaker 5: Let's see here, it's kind of like what happens in
Vegas stays, and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what happens on the Moon stays and moon you know,
and that's you know what, that's a very applicable saying
what happens on the moon stays on the moon. Apparently, Yeah,
because you know, I mean everything we've talked about tonight
about it. Another interesting fact, GfK was more focused on
beating the Soviets, beating the Soviets than in space. Well.
Nixon was also that way too, and public President John F.
Kennedy had oldly pledged that the United States would set
sail on this new sea because there is new knowledge
to be gained and the rights to be won, and
they must be won and used for the progress of
all people. But secret tapes of Kennedy's discussions were later
revealed that in private, JFK was less interested in space
exploration than one upping the Soviets. In a nineteen sixty
two meeting with the advisors, his advisors, and NASA administrators,
JFK confessed, I'm not as in, I'm not that interested
in space, but he was interested in winning the Cold War.
Just months after JFK's ignag inauguration inauguration, the Soviet Union
had sent the first man into space. Kennedy asked his
Vice President, Lyndon B. Johnson how the US could score
a win against the Soviets. One of the best ways
to show US dominance, Johnson reported back, was by sending
a manned mission to the Moon. Johnson in five act,
how long had long been a space advocate? Can he
stay head?
Speaker 7: He stated?
Speaker 6: Control of control of space is control of the world. Hmmm,
that's omnous. Another interesting fact, the Soviets covered up their
efforts to get to the Moon first. It turns out
that the United States wasn't alone and wanting to demonstrate
its dominance by landing humans on the Moon. The Soviet
Union was also getting to accomplish this feat, but once
the US pronouts got there first, the Soviets tried to
keep up their efforts on the down low. At first,
secrecy was necessary so that no one could take take
overtake us, wrote a Russian journalist in the Soviet newspaper
called something Pravada. But later when they did overtake us,
we had to maintain secrecy so that no one knew
that we had been overtaken. H it's that what people
don't know don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, what people don't know don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was clever. Astronauts trained for microgravity by walking sideways.
How do you prepare to send someone to a place
no one has ever gone before? You send Kirk for
NASA in the nineteen sixties, the answer was to create
simulations that mimicked aspects of what astronauts could expect to encounter.
Armstrong and Aldron rehearsed collecting samples on fake indoor moonscapes.
Armstrong practiced taking off and landing in the Lunar land
Or training vehicle in Houston, and to simulate walking on
the Moon's lower gravity atmosphere, astronauts were suspended sideways by
straps and then walked along a tiled wall. NASA and
the US Geological Survey even blasted out craters at under
Lake Arizona to create a landscape that matched part of
the Moon's surface, because after all, practice makes perfect now,
and that's where we see a lot of pictures of
like the three astronauts in their suit holding their helmets
and a rover beside them. So people are like, yeah,
the moon landing really happened, because here they are, you know,
being able to breathe the atmosphere without helmets on. Well,
you know, it also goes back to what I said
about Stanley Kubrick. You know, they had to train somewhere.
So civil rights activists got a front row seat at
the Apollo eleven launch. Not everyone was going ho about
the US effort to land people on the Moon. A
few days before the scheduled launch of Apollo eleven, a
group of activists led by the civil rights leader Ralph
Abernathy arrived outside the gates of Kennedy Space Center. They
brought with them two mules, a wooden wagon, and a
wooden wagon too, to illustrate the contrast between the gleaming
white Saturn five rocket and families who couldn't afford food
or a decent place to live. Amid the heady build
up to the launch, the NASA administrator Thomas Paine came
out to talk to the protesters face to face. After
Pain and Abernathy talked for a while under lightly falling rain,
Pain said he hoped that Abernathy would hitch his wag
into our rocket, using the space program as a spur
to the nation to tackle problems boldly in other areas,
and using NASA's space success as a yardstick by which
progress in those other areas should be measured. Pain then
arranged to have the members of the group attend the
next day's launch from the VIP area. Abernathy prayed for
the safety of the astronauts and said he was as
proud as anyone at the accomplishment. That's an interesting idea
linking that together and using it as a yardstick to
solve these things, because if a rocket to the Moon
can prove one thing, it's it proves that we can
do anything we need to, anything we can put our
mind to, and taking care of the homeless, the people
who are poor. You know, however you want to say that,
you know, I don't know anyhow, but that is a
great way to show that support. That's awesome. Yes, buzz
Aldron took Holy Communion on the Moon. I didn't know that.
When Apollo eleven's Eagle lunar module landed on the Moon
on July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, astronauts Neil Armstrong and
buzz Aldron had to wait before venturing outside. Their mission
ordered them to take a pause before that big event.
So Aldron used some of the some of the time
doing unexpected, doing so ill during to use some of
the time doing something unexpected, something no man had ever
attempted before. Alone, and overwhelmed by anticipation, he took part
in the first Christian sacrament ever performed on the moon,
the Rite of Christian Communion.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 6: Interesting, that is interesting.
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's pretty well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. What day did they land?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I have no idea forgot this day in this stay
in space, just.
Speaker 5: This stay in history. Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's
the fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 5: Not today?
Speaker 6: Dude? The well, it's just the date is today? Okay?
What day did the Titanic sink? No?
Speaker 5: No, look at this date in nineteen sixty nine? Was
nineteen sixty nine?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: Seven twenty let's hold on, hold.
Speaker 6: On, I'm almost there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you type, I.
Speaker 6: Do type slow. It was it was July sixteenth, and
then July twenty fourth, so those days. But what was
the day is what I was asking? Was it a Sunday?
Is my interest?
Speaker 5: Was it a Sunday?
Speaker 6: A Sunday?
Speaker 5: Sundays are Fundays Sunday.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to find that very quickly, so I'm
going to skip that one.
Speaker 5: It was Sunday, July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine was a Sunday.
There you go, I said, what day of the week
was the first landing of the Moon. It was a Sunday.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 5: I guess it was fitting to have a little church.
Speaker 6: There you go. Scientists were worried about space germs infecting Earth,
which is actually a good thing to worry about. After
risking their lives for the advancement of humanity, Armstrong, Aldarin,
and Collins had the dubious pleasure of being stuck in
planetary production quarantine on their return. Wow, that's an interesting
for you. Since humans had never been to the Moon before,
NASA scientists couldn't be sure that some deadly spaceborn plague
hadn't hitched a ride on the astronauts. As soon as
the re entry capsule splashed down in the Pacific Ocean
on July twenty fourth, the trio was transferred to a
mobile quarantine facility inside, inside which they were transported to
NASA Lunar Receiving Laboratory at Johnson Space Center, where they
had access to a larger quarantine facility until their release
on August tenth. Holy crap, they were in there for
like two weeks. Wow, all right, And then this last
one here. President Nixon was anxious the mission could fail.
While President Kennedy had rallied the nation to land on
the Moon, he was assassinated before he could see the
Apollo mission achieve his vision. That nerve racking honor fell
to President Richard Nixon, who had been elected in nineteen
sixty eight. Watching Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron take the
first steps on the Moon, Nixon's anxiety reached a peak.
If anything went wrong, he would have to manage America's
outrage over billions of tax dollars accumulating in the death
of two astronauts huh if at least two astronauts. His
staff had prepared a statement to be read in the
event the worst happened, and organized a priest to commit
their souls to the deep, much like a burial at sea.
Watching Apollo eleven live from the Moon, the president could
only hope he wouldn't have to read it. He didn't.
The men who traveled more than two hundred thousand miles
to the Moon and then step foot on an alien
world had survived, and the United States would go on
to complete six crude missions that landed a total of
twelve astronauts on the Moon from nineteen sixty nine to
nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then they quit done and they just well
don't have the technology to go back to the Moon.
Speaker 7: We know.
Speaker 6: I cannot believe that. I mean, we have even the
Voyager sunatellites, we launched them, they went until they got
out of the Solar System. How can we not How
could we have lost that kind of technology to just
put somebody on the Moon. I don't get it.
Speaker 5: Wow, I don't want it. I don't know either.
Speaker 6: I think there I think they may just be holding
on to those funds to possibly fund something else, like
maybe Space Force.
Speaker 5: I love that name, space Force. That's totally like something
you expect to come out of an elementary school. Me
and Jimmy are going to make space Force.
Speaker 6: Ma, I've got fifteen UFOs.
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