Speaker 1: The article we have is from The Spectator and the
headline is Jeffrey Epstein really was a streak of slime?
Why did so many pillars of the establishment associate with
such a vile creature? The Netflix documentary offers a tantalizing answer.
And this article was published June thirteenth in The Spectator.
Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself? Or was he murdered?
Speaker 2: And frankly, who cares? Actually? What? Actually?
Speaker 1: Having watched the four part Netflix series Jeffrey Epstein filthy
rich about his secretive, sordid life, I care very much. Oh,
you are not the only one, sir. You are not
the only one, sir. Mister James Delingpole, the author of
the article, we feel the same way because I don't
know how anyone can take a look at this case,
and especially from the outside looking in, somebody who has
not followed this case, take a look at all of
the facts and all of the evidence, and not shake
your head in wonderment and ask yourself, did this guy
really kill himself? Or is there something else going on here? Sure,
his squalid death in jail, apparently from suicide while awaiting
trial for numerous sex crimes, was thoroughly deserved, but justice
would have been far better served if this noisome creep
had spent the rest of his days rotting in prison,
deprived forever of all sexual activity save the involuntary variety
provided in the showers whenever he dropped the soap. Look,
I agree with all of that. I wanted to see
Jeffrey Epstein spend every last minute of his life in
prison as a broken man.
Speaker 2: You strip away the power, you strip away.
Speaker 1: The money, and then you strip away everything that these
people are, because when it comes down to it, that's
all they truly are, folks. They're their money and their power.
They have nothing else. They aren't decent human beings, they
aren't moral, they don't care about anybody else.
Speaker 2: They have no empathy.
Speaker 1: We're dealing with a whole bunch of narcissists. Just like
doctor Stephen Delay told us here on the program, I
hadn't expected to respond quite this viscerally to the Epstein
tail and folks.
Speaker 2: I've gotten that from a lot of people recently.
Speaker 1: A lot of people who are just getting hip to
what went on, a lot of people who are just
understanding the depths of exactly how deep this went. Well,
people are starting to understand, and they're starting to respond.
I've received so many emails from people who were just
blown away by how deep this story really goes, and
about how the legacy media has only just scratched.
Speaker 2: The surface here, folks.
Speaker 1: Indeed, before I watched the documentary, I was inclined to
think that perhaps the nefarious news had been overdone. Surely,
if he were as guilty, some of his accusers claimed
he would have been put away long ago.
Speaker 2: And that's what everybody would think, right.
Speaker 1: I Mean, if I was coming into this case Colt
and had no idea about the players in the case,
or who they were, or the prosecution, or the fact
that this has spanned over four presidents, now, I would
think that there is something else going on, right, I
would think that he was definitely guilty and that he
would definitely be in prison.
Speaker 2: And but no.
Speaker 1: You start looking into the case and you start to
see all of the ties that bind, You start to
see how the tentacles slithered their way into many parts
of society, and you start to understand that Jeffrey Epstein
is not like your typical trafficking participant. There was something
much deeper here. There was something much more and anyway,
the relationship between older men with money and power and
younger women with aspirations has always been more complicated than
the Me too fur contrive to pretend. I don't really
agree with that, to be honest with you, because there's
a lot going on within the Me too movement that
I you know, it just blows me away. Right, what
happened with Harvey Weinstein and the fact that people feel
in power now, women feel in power now to come
out and speak against their abusers. I think that's a
good thing, and I don't think that there has always
been there. There's been too much fur around stuff like that, right,
Usually when these women come forward and we're dealing with
somebody sick and demented like Epstein and Weinstein, it's not
just one person, right, So you can't make pretend that
it's not happening, all right, It's multiple people coming out
and accusing these people, and they're credible accusations. Obviously, Weinstein's
in prison, Epstein was on his way, So I don't really.
Speaker 2: Agree with the whole.
Speaker 1: The relationship between older men with money and power and
younger women with aspirations has always been more complicated, not
really all right, not really, But that was before I
learned the unutterable vileness of what Epstein did his private
retreat in the US Virgin Islands Little Saint James, for example.
Those young girls who had to service his myriad celebrity
guests weren't willing, lavishly rewarded accomplices, but the cheated, betrayed,
trapped put upon survivors of a vicious and sadistic sociopath
who actually seemed to get most of his sexual kicks
from the knowledge that those poor girls were hating every moment.
And I like to see how Dellan pole here, I'm
not too familiar with most of his work, by the way,
but I like to see how dellanpole Here changes his
tune after seeing what those poor girls went through and
understanding that it has nothing to do with just baseless
accusations or someone trying to get some money out of
a rich guy. Now, of course I've talked about that before.
We see that, We see that a lot of times
in our country. Right, we have to follow the evidence, right,
we have to believe the evidence. When somebody brings an
accusation forward, we have to believe the evidence. Now we
can't just rely on the fact that, oh, well, this
person's a prince he didn't do it, or this person's
a you know, a politician, he definitely didn't have anything
to do with this.
Speaker 2: That doesn't cut it for me, right.
Speaker 1: If you're going to make accusations, I'm going to need
I need evidence for me to believe what you have
to say. And from the very beginning in this case,
it has been quite evident to me that there is
nothing but credible accusations all across the board. Every single
one of these girls that has come forward has been
nothing but credible with their telling of this story. And
the craziest part is none of these gals knew each
other previous to this, Okay, but they all had the
same story.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big coincidence, huh. Perhaps the most frustrating
aspect of this documentary series based on a book by
one of his Palm Beach neighbors, The Thriller or James Patterson,
was the near absence of its main character, And I
think that's significant as well. I like how the Netflix
documentary really shot from the perspective.
Speaker 2: Of the survivors.
Speaker 1: Of course, they added their own little twist to it
and their own little bits of you know, juiciness, But
mainly the story was about the survivors and what their
experience with Jeffrey Epstein, how that impacted their lives. And
I think that that was pretty good stuff, and I
think that the Netflix documentary especially really did.
Speaker 2: Its job what it was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: We saw footage of him impassively, contemptuously, half smirking, batting
off questions under interrogation from police investigators, including one about whether.
Speaker 2: He could confirm he had an egg shaped penis.
Speaker 1: And we've heard numerous reports about his deformities and about
that specific the specific.
Speaker 2: Part of his body.
Speaker 1: And when you hear multiple reports like this and from
multiple people, that's a legit question for a lawyer to ask.
Speaker 2: Is it uncomfortable? Sure?
Speaker 1: Is it embarrassing? Absolutely? Who cares? Though you think Jeffrey
Epstein cared about embarrassing or if something was disgusting, No,
he didn't care. So I really don't have a problem
with it being brought up right, It's part of the
case and it is pertinent. So I think that when
you see you see a line of questioning like this
from a lawyer, I think that there's obviously a reason
that the lawyer is going down that path and.
Speaker 2: He's trying to shake Epstein's tree.
Speaker 1: But what we never saw, though it presumably must have
been immense, was the captivating charm that gulled so many
girls into trusting him, and so many of the rich
and powerful into his circle of friendship. Well, you know,
it really wasn't charm per se when it came to
the girls that were being abused. Now, if we're talking
about the Core Four, well I agree with that he
was like Keith Rayniery in that regard. He had all
of the Core four wrapped around his little finger, and
in return he gave them wealth and power and access
to parts of society that they could have never imagined
being part of before being around Jeffrey Epstein. And the
sickening part about it is how willingly all of these women,
these Core four, how willingly they went along with Jeffrey Epstein,
and how willingly they have kept his secrets for so long. Meanwhile,
you have somebody like Maria Farmer, who was kicking in
the door in ninety five ninety six, ringing the alarm bells,
telling everybody that there was a fire and nobody paid
attention to what she had to say. All of this
could have been stopped, all of it. All of these
girls that were molested and abused after that time, they
could have been spared all of this misery if the
FBI would have just listened to what Maria Farmer was
telling them. Even with all the testimony from the girls
he abused, from the detectives who tried to build a
case against him, and from the financier who gave him
his first big break, Epstein remained an enigma.
Speaker 2: Of course he did.
Speaker 1: And what they don't like to delve into, and what
I have no problem delving into.
Speaker 2: Is the reason he remained an enigma.
Speaker 1: Is because he was being protected by his friends in
the intelligence community and whichever politicians he had a dossier on,
point blank period. This was about much more than just
sex trafficking, folks. Remember, this was about blackmail. This was
about power, And if you've been listening to the podcast,
you know, in my opinion, that information is the most
powerful currency on the planet, especially to people like this,
especially to people like Epstein and his handlers. Sure money's great,
but they had more money than they could ever spend.
What they didn't have is the goods on all of
these politicians, all of these so called royals, all of
these academics, and anybody else that they could sink their
claws into. Obviously, he was precociously bright, a physics and
math whiz recruited as a quantitative analyst by bear Stearns.
Devious and on principled too. One of his former bosses
were called that he definitely appealed to us because we
were running a Ponzi scheme and he could deliver results
in this criminal enterprise. Look, folks, this is the root
of the story of Jeffrey Epstein and money laundering. It
started way back when at bear Stearns. And what he
did is he tweaked his process along the way until
he had it completely ironed out and humming.
Speaker 2: Along like a well oiled machine.
Speaker 1: And that is what Jeffrey Epstein really had his fingers into,
and that's where he was really making his wealth. He
was laundering all of that money. There was so many
funky business transactions between Jeffrey Epstein, those banks, and other
people that it is impossible for me to believe that
the federal government does not have a forensic account to
a forensic accountant on the on the scene, tracing down
every last transaction, because folks, that's how expansive this is,
and that's how far it reaches. Every last transaction that
was ever made by Epstein to an associate needs to
be documented and needs to be looked at under a microscope,
because if anyone received money and that money was ill gotten,
what was made in an ill uh was gained in
an evil way, in a legal way, well, the person
who received that money is now subject to be brought
into the RICO case as well. So it's important that
a forensic accountant tracks down all of these transactions and
finds out who benefit. How though, did this child of
modest circumstances, dad was a park groundskeeper, accumulate his alleged
billion dollar fortune. Well, he didn't have a billion dollars
on the record, right, we know it was six hundred
and thirty four million dollars. But we also know, as
I was just talking about, that he was involved in
a ton of money laundering and scheming and plotting behind
the scenes when it comes to financial crimes. So in
my opinion, that's where most of his money came from.
One suggestion never properly explored, perhaps because it's so hard
to find evidence. No, there's plenty of evidence for it.
Mister Dellanpole was blackmail. Epstein, one of his chief accusers,
Virginia Roberts recalled, had hidden cameras in every single one
of the rooms in the New York mansion where inter
Alia he entertained Prince Andrew. He would spy on them
in a control room containing a bank of screens. Presumably
he recorded everything that went on too, something which must
have been awfully inconvenient to a lot of very high
powered people. And it wasn't just Virginia who has come
out and said this. Maria said the same thing about
the audio visual room, and several other people have also
stated that the whole place was wired. And from my
personal experience from going out to the Zoro ranch in February,
the whole entire front had cameras everywhere.
Speaker 2: So if it was that.
Speaker 1: Wired up out front, you have to think throughout his
whole entire property, with all of these rich and wealthy
and powerful people coming through his doors to hang out
with him and be involved in his disgustingness, well you
would have to think that Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell
and their handlers would have a field day compiling dossiers
of compromising information on.
Speaker 2: All of these people.
Speaker 1: Just before he died, in a final act of spite,
he transferred his assets half a billion than a billion
dollars to an offshore trust beyond the reach of the
US authorities. This was a mark of the man's lowsomeness.
His final act was deliberately to ensure that his survivors
would never get compensated for the indignities and psychological trauma
he had inflicted on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that didn't.
Speaker 1: Work out so well, huh, considering the survivor's fund is
cracking along and plugging along at such a hot pace
right now. In fact, in four days next Monday, it's
set to go live, So that part of Jeffrey Epstein's
plan was a complete bus so far. So that's one
win in the check mark in the win column for
the good guys at least. There's been far and few
between in this case, folks, But we're getting there. The
needle is starting to move the other way, and the
fact that this story is blowing up the way it
is is just going to further push the prosecution towards
doing the right thing. Epstein was a streak of slime.
This much was abundantly clear. Can we believe the story
that he once paid the parents of three twelve year
old girls to have them flown out from France so
that he could have his vile way with them? I
wouldn't put it past him. Look, I believe that story
one hundred percent. Again, there's nothing that Virginia Roberts has
said in this case that I do not believe, especially
when you know all the players in the case. What
you think that's something that John Luke Burnell would be
against doing that, sending those girls to Jeffrey Epstein. We're
talking about another super predator. Folks, he looks at people
the same way Epstein does. Certainly there is copious evidence
that he'd pay two hundred dollars a time to dozens
of underage girls to come to his Florida home to
give him massages and then end up effectively raping them.
Like all psychopaths, he had zero moral conscience, that's for sure, right,
definitely zero moral conscience. The man operated in his own world,
and all of his fellow travelers that spent time around
him are just as disgusting in my opinion. Sure, his
money managed to buy a lot of expensive lawyers and
a lot of science. As a result of a disgraceful
plea bargain for his Florida crimes, he ended up serving
not much more than a year in a low security
prison where he had his own food, his own wing,
and was let out for twelve hours each day to
do whatever he wished. Even so, given that his proclivities
were such an open secret, it almost beggars belief that
so many pillars of the establishment, from ex President Bill
Clinton downwards were so eager to associate with their creatures
so crass and tainted. That's perfectly put because these rumors
didn't just start right, It didn't start in the late
two thousands, the early two thousands. Then people knew what
sort of disgusting Mannes was. People knew that he was
up to something real disgusting, and everybody ignored it. Why
because they thought their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein would benefit
them in some way and to them in so called
polite society. That is all that matters. You don't matter,
It doesn't matter that Epstein was a sex offender. All
that mattered was how the relationship with Epstein would directly
affect them and help them move forward up the chain
inside of that disgusting group of people. There was an
answer of sorts in the first episode, where an art
school graduate and future Epstein survivor described how at her
nineteen ninety five degree show she'd sold three paintings almost
immediately for a total of thirty eight thousand dollars, quite
a big deal for a student. Then her dean of college,
Eileen Guggenheim, came over and firmly insisted that she sell
them instead at a much lower price to a couple
who were great friends and benefactors of the academy, Jeffrey
Epstein and Gelaine Maxwell. Well, we know we're they're talking
about Maria Farmer there. And the fact that this disgusting lady,
Eileen Guggenheim still is sitting on the board of the
New York Academy of Arts is just it scheves me out.
It is absolutely skeevie that this lady is still sitting
on the board. But again, what can we expect from
a place that had Jeffrey Epstein as a board member
as well? Like I always say, folks, fellow Travelers, Guggenheim,
and the rest of these co conspirators and enablers. Don't
think we've forgotten about you. Don't think you're off the hook,
don't think you're going to escape the microscope, and certainly
don't think you're going to escape my big fat yapp
because that is never going to occur. People like Eileen
Guggenheim were instrumental in making this happen, crucial players in
helping Jeffrey Epstein conduct his business. And what occurred with Guggenheim,
the New York Academy of Arts, Jeffrey Epstein, Gelaan Maxwell,
and everybody else involved.
Speaker 2: With the abuse of.
Speaker 1: Maria and Annie Farmer is just absolutely and positively some
of the most disgusting situations you could possibly ever think of.
Imagine the dean of a college coming over to you
after you just sold three paintings just out of school
for thirty eight thousand dollars, and then she comes over
to you and tells you, oh, no, you're going to
sell them to these benefactors because we told you that's
what you're going to do. Imagine, and that's how they operated.
Folks in their whole entire lives were consistent with the
way they treated people like Maria. That's how they treated
everybody because they thought they were better than everybody, because
they were sociopaths, because they don't even they wouldn't even
know empathy if it fell out of a plane and
landed on their head. F Scott Fitzgerald was right. The
rich really are different and really do think deep in
their hearts that they are better than we are. I
say that on a regular basis here on the podcast.
These people the most, the mega rich, the ultra rich,
these sort of people are the biggest problem with the
planet because guess what, they have all the money in
the world. Right, It's not about money to them anymore.
It's all about control and power, and for them, the
means always justifies the end. If you like to contact me,
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