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Speaker 1: The article we have is from The Spectator and the

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headline is Jeffrey Epstein really was a streak of slime?

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Why did so many pillars of the establishment associate with

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such a vile creature? The Netflix documentary offers a tantalizing answer.

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And this article was published June thirteenth in The Spectator.

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Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself? Or was he murdered?

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Speaker 2: And frankly, who cares? Actually? What? Actually?

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Speaker 1: Having watched the four part Netflix series Jeffrey Epstein filthy

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rich about his secretive, sordid life, I care very much. Oh,

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you are not the only one, sir. You are not

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the only one, sir. Mister James Delingpole, the author of

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the article, we feel the same way because I don't

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know how anyone can take a look at this case,

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and especially from the outside looking in, somebody who has

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not followed this case, take a look at all of

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the facts and all of the evidence, and not shake

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your head in wonderment and ask yourself, did this guy

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really kill himself? Or is there something else going on here? Sure,

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his squalid death in jail, apparently from suicide while awaiting

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trial for numerous sex crimes, was thoroughly deserved, but justice

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would have been far better served if this noisome creep

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had spent the rest of his days rotting in prison,

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deprived forever of all sexual activity save the involuntary variety

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provided in the showers whenever he dropped the soap. Look,

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I agree with all of that. I wanted to see

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Jeffrey Epstein spend every last minute of his life in

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prison as a broken man.

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Speaker 2: You strip away the power, you strip away.

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Speaker 1: The money, and then you strip away everything that these

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people are, because when it comes down to it, that's

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all they truly are, folks. They're their money and their power.

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They have nothing else. They aren't decent human beings, they

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aren't moral, they don't care about anybody else.

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Speaker 2: They have no empathy.

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Speaker 1: We're dealing with a whole bunch of narcissists. Just like

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doctor Stephen Delay told us here on the program, I

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hadn't expected to respond quite this viscerally to the Epstein

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tail and folks.

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Speaker 2: I've gotten that from a lot of people recently.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people who are just getting hip to

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what went on, a lot of people who are just

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understanding the depths of exactly how deep this went. Well,

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people are starting to understand, and they're starting to respond.

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I've received so many emails from people who were just

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blown away by how deep this story really goes, and

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about how the legacy media has only just scratched.

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Speaker 2: The surface here, folks.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, before I watched the documentary, I was inclined to

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think that perhaps the nefarious news had been overdone. Surely,

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if he were as guilty, some of his accusers claimed

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he would have been put away long ago.

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Speaker 2: And that's what everybody would think, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, if I was coming into this case Colt

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and had no idea about the players in the case,

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or who they were, or the prosecution, or the fact

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that this has spanned over four presidents, now, I would

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think that there is something else going on, right, I

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would think that he was definitely guilty and that he

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would definitely be in prison.

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Speaker 2: And but no.

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Speaker 1: You start looking into the case and you start to

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see all of the ties that bind, You start to

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see how the tentacles slithered their way into many parts

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of society, and you start to understand that Jeffrey Epstein

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is not like your typical trafficking participant. There was something

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much deeper here. There was something much more and anyway,

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the relationship between older men with money and power and

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younger women with aspirations has always been more complicated than

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the Me too fur contrive to pretend. I don't really

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agree with that, to be honest with you, because there's

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a lot going on within the Me too movement that

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I you know, it just blows me away. Right, what

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happened with Harvey Weinstein and the fact that people feel

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in power now, women feel in power now to come

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out and speak against their abusers. I think that's a

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good thing, and I don't think that there has always

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been there. There's been too much fur around stuff like that, right,

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somebody sick and demented like Epstein and Weinstein, it's not

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just one person, right, So you can't make pretend that

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it's not happening, all right, It's multiple people coming out

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and accusing these people, and they're credible accusations. Obviously, Weinstein's

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in prison, Epstein was on his way, So I don't really.

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Speaker 2: Agree with the whole.

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Speaker 1: The relationship between older men with money and power and

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younger women with aspirations has always been more complicated, not

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really all right, not really, But that was before I

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learned the unutterable vileness of what Epstein did his private

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retreat in the US Virgin Islands Little Saint James, for example.

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Those young girls who had to service his myriad celebrity

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guests weren't willing, lavishly rewarded accomplices, but the cheated, betrayed,

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trapped put upon survivors of a vicious and sadistic sociopath

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who actually seemed to get most of his sexual kicks

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from the knowledge that those poor girls were hating every moment.

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And I like to see how Dellan pole here, I'm

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not too familiar with most of his work, by the way,

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but I like to see how dellanpole Here changes his

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tune after seeing what those poor girls went through and

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understanding that it has nothing to do with just baseless

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accusations or someone trying to get some money out of

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a rich guy. Now, of course I've talked about that before.

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in our country. Right, we have to follow the evidence, right,

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we have to believe the evidence. When somebody brings an

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accusation forward, we have to believe the evidence. Now we

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can't just rely on the fact that, oh, well, this

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person's a prince he didn't do it, or this person's

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a you know, a politician, he definitely didn't have anything

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Speaker 1: If you're going to make accusations, I'm going to need

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I need evidence for me to believe what you have

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to say. And from the very beginning in this case,

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it has been quite evident to me that there is

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nothing but credible accusations all across the board. Every single

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one of these girls that has come forward has been

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nothing but credible with their telling of this story. And

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the craziest part is none of these gals knew each

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other previous to this, Okay, but they all had the

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same story.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty big coincidence, huh. Perhaps the most frustrating

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aspect of this documentary series based on a book by

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one of his Palm Beach neighbors, The Thriller or James Patterson,

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was the near absence of its main character, And I

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think that's significant as well. I like how the Netflix

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documentary really shot from the perspective.

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Speaker 2: Of the survivors.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they added their own little twist to it

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and their own little bits of you know, juiciness, But

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mainly the story was about the survivors and what their

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experience with Jeffrey Epstein, how that impacted their lives. And

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Speaker 2: Its job what it was supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: We saw footage of him impassively, contemptuously, half smirking, batting

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off questions under interrogation from police investigators, including one about whether.

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Speaker 2: He could confirm he had an egg shaped penis.

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Speaker 1: And we've heard numerous reports about his deformities and about

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that specific the specific.

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Speaker 2: Part of his body.

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Speaker 1: And when you hear multiple reports like this and from

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multiple people, that's a legit question for a lawyer to ask.

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Speaker 2: Is it uncomfortable? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Is it embarrassing? Absolutely? Who cares? Though you think Jeffrey

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Epstein cared about embarrassing or if something was disgusting, No,

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he didn't care. So I really don't have a problem

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with it being brought up right, It's part of the

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case and it is pertinent. So I think that when

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from a lawyer, I think that there's obviously a reason

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that the lawyer is going down that path and.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to shake Epstein's tree.

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Speaker 1: But what we never saw, though it presumably must have

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been immense, was the captivating charm that gulled so many

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girls into trusting him, and so many of the rich

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and powerful into his circle of friendship. Well, you know,

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the girls that were being abused. Now, if we're talking

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about the Core Four, well I agree with that he

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was like Keith Rayniery in that regard. He had all

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of the Core four wrapped around his little finger, and

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in return he gave them wealth and power and access

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to parts of society that they could have never imagined

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being part of before being around Jeffrey Epstein. And the

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sickening part about it is how willingly all of these women,

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these Core four, how willingly they went along with Jeffrey Epstein,

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and how willingly they have kept his secrets for so long. Meanwhile,

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you have somebody like Maria Farmer, who was kicking in

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the door in ninety five ninety six, ringing the alarm bells,

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telling everybody that there was a fire and nobody paid

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attention to what she had to say. All of this

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could have been stopped, all of it. All of these

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girls that were molested and abused after that time, they

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FBI would have just listened to what Maria Farmer was

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telling them. Even with all the testimony from the girls

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he abused, from the detectives who tried to build a

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case against him, and from the financier who gave him

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his first big break, Epstein remained an enigma.

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Speaker 2: Of course he did.

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Speaker 1: And what they don't like to delve into, and what

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Speaker 2: Is the reason he remained an enigma.

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Speaker 1: Is because he was being protected by his friends in

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the intelligence community and whichever politicians he had a dossier on,

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point blank period. This was about much more than just

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sex trafficking, folks. Remember, this was about blackmail. This was

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about power, And if you've been listening to the podcast,

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you know, in my opinion, that information is the most

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powerful currency on the planet, especially to people like this,

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especially to people like Epstein and his handlers. Sure money's great,

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but they had more money than they could ever spend.

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What they didn't have is the goods on all of

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these politicians, all of these so called royals, all of

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these academics, and anybody else that they could sink their

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claws into. Obviously, he was precociously bright, a physics and

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math whiz recruited as a quantitative analyst by bear Stearns.

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Devious and on principled too. One of his former bosses

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were called that he definitely appealed to us because we

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were running a Ponzi scheme and he could deliver results

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in this criminal enterprise. Look, folks, this is the root

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of the story of Jeffrey Epstein and money laundering. It

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started way back when at bear Stearns. And what he

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did is he tweaked his process along the way until

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he had it completely ironed out and humming.

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Speaker 2: Along like a well oiled machine.

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Speaker 1: And that is what Jeffrey Epstein really had his fingers into,

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and that's where he was really making his wealth. He

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was laundering all of that money. There was so many

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funky business transactions between Jeffrey Epstein, those banks, and other

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people that it is impossible for me to believe that

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the federal government does not have a forensic account to

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a forensic accountant on the on the scene, tracing down

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every last transaction, because folks, that's how expansive this is,

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was ever made by Epstein to an associate needs to

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be documented and needs to be looked at under a microscope,

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because if anyone received money and that money was ill gotten,

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what was made in an ill uh was gained in

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an evil way, in a legal way, well, the person

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who received that money is now subject to be brought

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into the RICO case as well. So it's important that

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a forensic accountant tracks down all of these transactions and

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finds out who benefit. How though, did this child of

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modest circumstances, dad was a park groundskeeper, accumulate his alleged

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billion dollar fortune. Well, he didn't have a billion dollars

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on the record, right, we know it was six hundred

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a ton of money laundering and scheming and plotting behind

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to find evidence. No, there's plenty of evidence for it.

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Mister Dellanpole was blackmail. Epstein, one of his chief accusers,

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Virginia Roberts recalled, had hidden cameras in every single one

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Alia he entertained Prince Andrew. He would spy on them

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in a control room containing a bank of screens. Presumably

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he recorded everything that went on too, something which must

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have been awfully inconvenient to a lot of very high

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powered people. And it wasn't just Virginia who has come

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out and said this. Maria said the same thing about

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the audio visual room, and several other people have also

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stated that the whole place was wired. And from my

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personal experience from going out to the Zoro ranch in February,

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the whole entire front had cameras everywhere.

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Speaker 2: So if it was that.

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Speaker 1: Wired up out front, you have to think throughout his

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whole entire property, with all of these rich and wealthy

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and powerful people coming through his doors to hang out

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with him and be involved in his disgustingness, well you

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would have to think that Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell

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and their handlers would have a field day compiling dossiers

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of compromising information on.

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Speaker 2: All of these people.

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Speaker 1: Just before he died, in a final act of spite,

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he transferred his assets half a billion than a billion

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dollars to an offshore trust beyond the reach of the

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US authorities. This was a mark of the man's lowsomeness.

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His final act was deliberately to ensure that his survivors

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would never get compensated for the indignities and psychological trauma

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he had inflicted on them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that didn't.

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Speaker 1: Work out so well, huh, considering the survivor's fund is

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cracking along and plugging along at such a hot pace

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right now. In fact, in four days next Monday, it's

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set to go live, So that part of Jeffrey Epstein's

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plan was a complete bus so far. So that's one

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win in the check mark in the win column for

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the good guys at least. There's been far and few

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between in this case, folks, But we're getting there. The

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needle is starting to move the other way, and the

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fact that this story is blowing up the way it

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is is just going to further push the prosecution towards

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doing the right thing. Epstein was a streak of slime.

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This much was abundantly clear. Can we believe the story

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that he once paid the parents of three twelve year

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old girls to have them flown out from France so

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that he could have his vile way with them? I

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wouldn't put it past him. Look, I believe that story

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one hundred percent. Again, there's nothing that Virginia Roberts has

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said in this case that I do not believe, especially

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when you know all the players in the case. What

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you think that's something that John Luke Burnell would be

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against doing that, sending those girls to Jeffrey Epstein. We're

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talking about another super predator. Folks, he looks at people

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the same way Epstein does. Certainly there is copious evidence

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that he'd pay two hundred dollars a time to dozens

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of underage girls to come to his Florida home to

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give him massages and then end up effectively raping them.

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Like all psychopaths, he had zero moral conscience, that's for sure, right,

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definitely zero moral conscience. The man operated in his own world,

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and all of his fellow travelers that spent time around

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him are just as disgusting in my opinion. Sure, his

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money managed to buy a lot of expensive lawyers and

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a lot of science. As a result of a disgraceful

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plea bargain for his Florida crimes, he ended up serving

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not much more than a year in a low security

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prison where he had his own food, his own wing,

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and was let out for twelve hours each day to

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do whatever he wished. Even so, given that his proclivities

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were such an open secret, it almost beggars belief that

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so many pillars of the establishment, from ex President Bill

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Clinton downwards were so eager to associate with their creatures

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so crass and tainted. That's perfectly put because these rumors

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didn't just start right, It didn't start in the late

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two thousands, the early two thousands. Then people knew what

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sort of disgusting Mannes was. People knew that he was

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up to something real disgusting, and everybody ignored it. Why

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because they thought their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein would benefit

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them in some way and to them in so called

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polite society. That is all that matters. You don't matter,

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It doesn't matter that Epstein was a sex offender. All

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that mattered was how the relationship with Epstein would directly

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affect them and help them move forward up the chain

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inside of that disgusting group of people. There was an

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answer of sorts in the first episode, where an art

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school graduate and future Epstein survivor described how at her

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nineteen ninety five degree show she'd sold three paintings almost

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immediately for a total of thirty eight thousand dollars, quite

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a big deal for a student. Then her dean of college,

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Eileen Guggenheim, came over and firmly insisted that she sell

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them instead at a much lower price to a couple

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who were great friends and benefactors of the academy, Jeffrey

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Epstein and Gelaine Maxwell. Well, we know we're they're talking

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about Maria Farmer there. And the fact that this disgusting lady,

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Eileen Guggenheim still is sitting on the board of the

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New York Academy of Arts is just it scheves me out.

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It is absolutely skeevie that this lady is still sitting

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on the board. But again, what can we expect from

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a place that had Jeffrey Epstein as a board member

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as well? Like I always say, folks, fellow Travelers, Guggenheim,

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and the rest of these co conspirators and enablers. Don't

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think we've forgotten about you. Don't think you're off the hook,

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don't think you're going to escape the microscope, and certainly

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don't think you're going to escape my big fat yapp

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because that is never going to occur. People like Eileen

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Guggenheim were instrumental in making this happen, crucial players in

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helping Jeffrey Epstein conduct his business. And what occurred with Guggenheim,

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the New York Academy of Arts, Jeffrey Epstein, Gelaan Maxwell,

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and everybody else involved.

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Speaker 2: With the abuse of.

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Speaker 1: Maria and Annie Farmer is just absolutely and positively some

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of the most disgusting situations you could possibly ever think of.

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Imagine the dean of a college coming over to you

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after you just sold three paintings just out of school

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for thirty eight thousand dollars, and then she comes over

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to you and tells you, oh, no, you're going to

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sell them to these benefactors because we told you that's

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what you're going to do. Imagine, and that's how they operated.

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Folks in their whole entire lives were consistent with the

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way they treated people like Maria. That's how they treated

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everybody because they thought they were better than everybody, because

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they were sociopaths, because they don't even they wouldn't even

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know empathy if it fell out of a plane and

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landed on their head. F Scott Fitzgerald was right. The

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rich really are different and really do think deep in

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their hearts that they are better than we are. I

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say that on a regular basis here on the podcast.

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These people the most, the mega rich, the ultra rich,

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these sort of people are the biggest problem with the

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planet because guess what, they have all the money in

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the world. Right, It's not about money to them anymore.

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It's all about control and power, and for them, the

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means always justifies the end. If you like to contact me,

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you could do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com.

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That's b O B B y c A p U

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C c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can also

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find me on Twitter at bo B B y underscore

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c A p U C c I.