WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:03.879 Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:06.480 interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.640 guest of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:12.640 the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the 5 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:30.039 views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 6 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.320 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast. 7 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:45.439 Hello, I got a big hello today. Hello pee wee. 8 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:51.240 Rob Procaccini, Johnny Albany's pull Berg a member, Thank you. 9 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:53.280 Not Procaccini's not a member. 10 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:54.960 He don't have any money to do that, Bro, he's 11 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:59.640 big doylecy b Doug Doyle, Doyle O Fox in there, 12 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:02.920 come out, QC Beast is a member. Yet you know 13 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.239 what they don't realize how much work rough? 14 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:05.680 You know? 15 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.719 I mean Gators River Here about one more overtime tour 16 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:13.400 the Procaccini work. Bro, I'm gonna fucking vomit. There you 17 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:17.280 go River at six. Welcome dude, Welcome, Bro. He's a member. 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.239 Weinberg member, Rob. 19 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:24.519 Not a membercket. 20 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.400 Yeah, do we have that? I think I have something 21 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:28.120 like that I'll do. 22 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:36.959 I'll tee you up for you, Rob, Brocaccinis, Man. 23 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:38.239 He's doing this he's actually doing this. 24 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:45.719 You know what, He's going down to a burtle beach 25 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:46.439 for three weeks. 26 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:51.959 Yeah, going down there, Yeah, five ninety five to become 27 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:52.400 a member. 28 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.480 Can you get a bag on a cup of coffee 29 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:55.359 for five ninety five? 30 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:57.200 You get it straight? 31 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.799 I'm gonna say you can you get one ninety five? 32 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:02.560 You can't even get a cup of coffee in a 33 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.000 bagel for four ninety five. But yeah, he's gonna get 34 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:05.480 all original. 35 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:07.120 I went to reunion. 36 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:11.199 You did well. God bless you, God bless. 37 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:12.199 You eighty guys. 38 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:12.360 Bro. 39 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.000 Yeah, I saw something that said the biggest the busiest 40 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:17.479 company in the world, history of the world. 41 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:18.960 I still don't know what's name. 42 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.599 You think that's a little oh my, here it is. 43 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.840 What do we got? World busiest fought? 44 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.000 Did you see what you did? 45 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:33.439 You mail one of those shirts to me or even 46 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:34.759 coops from a free T shirt? 47 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:35.719 Just a free T shirt. 48 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:37.879 I don't want to take for any of that ship 49 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:39.520 I got. 50 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:41.120 I got two guys. 51 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.159 Question, did you have a straight face when you had 52 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.120 that shirt printed up? The World's busiest? 53 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:45.599 True guys? 54 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:47.560 I got two guys? 55 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.360 What I got two guys out of all those guys 56 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.759 I had Steve Luisi corned he I don't think he's 57 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:55.280 gonna do it. 58 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:58.199 And I'm saying to you, when you had those shirts 59 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.080 printed up, did you do with a straight. 60 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.960 I heard you, but I didn't hear you. You understand 61 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:05.159 what I'm saying, all right? 62 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:06.400 I wrote in the world. 63 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.479 I saw what you did in the world. 64 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.840 I don't want to say it anymore. Play the commercial, maybe, maybe, 65 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.080 pro you'll inspire a propacina to take four ninety five. 66 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.680 Out of his fucking pocket and get paid for the membership. 67 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.039 Oh did we move it? You can't move that, shiit? 68 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.159 I moved it to the top. 69 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:26.520 Oh you did you something? 70 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:28.400 Okay? 71 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.280 Here we go looking to take your love for the 72 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:34.400 fire service the next level. Then join the Getting Salty 73 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:38.520 Experience YouTube premium membership club where the stories burn hotter 74 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.960 and the history runs deeper. 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Funny stories, but the man's been 170 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:47.960 to a lot of. 171 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:49.879 Companies. 172 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.279 You ready, Yeah, I'm ready's. 173 00:08:53.519 --> 00:09:10.879 Coming to the stage, cap Steve Ellie. 174 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:05.600 With the girls like throwing a. 175 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:13.840 Pen out a couple more seconds. 176 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:14.440 Yeah, that's. 177 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:23.840 You, guys. 178 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.240 Thanks for having me, guys any time. 179 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.799 But before we get deep into the weeds here, we 180 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:29.919 gotta get patriotic. 181 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:35.600 Since we are on the move, us a baby country 182 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:36.120 in the history. 183 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:42.279 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 184 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:46.840 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 185 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:54.960 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 186 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.240 Darren Phillips joined us there. He is member, by the way, 187 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:09.840 Darren Philip. 188 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.159 Remember everybody that's in green is a member. So thank you, guys. 189 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.759 Well, I see who's not in green rhying Copuccini. 190 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.360 But go ahead, right, all right, let's start way back, 191 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.639 because this man's dad was on the job for thirty years, 192 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:25.480 so let's go back. 193 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.919 We'll go back as far as high school. He was 194 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:29.200 an upstate guy, right. 195 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.360 Upstate, that's it. I used to say Suffolk County north 196 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:35.120 to the city guys. They used to break my balls 197 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:36.840 and say, yeah, where do you live, kid? I said, 198 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.279 I live in Brewster. They said, yeah, that's upstate. I go, no, 199 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.759 it's not nine. The state is north of Brewster. Like, 200 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:48.120 that's upstate. You across the fucking bridge. Okay, fair enough, Brewsters. 201 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.159 So that's up by Westchester somewhere up that way. 202 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:51.080 Yeah, that's about. 203 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.159 Forty miles from the Bronx. Yeah, Suffolk North. 204 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.200 I call it the Bronx. The Bronx. 205 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:56.919 So we don't got to ask you what, oh you 206 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:57.240 went to? 207 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.000 What school did you go to first in high school? 208 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:02.679 Yeah? 209 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:08.039 One famous person, former alum is Michael Imperiali from the Sopranos. 210 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:12.240 If you ask him, he'll tell you he's from Mount Vernon, Ohio. 211 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:13.960 You forget hi about it. 212 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:16.120 We got about got him. 213 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.919 Did you know him from school or was he different yet? 214 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.519 And no, I never heard of him. I like it. 215 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.360 I was an English class right, he was an English 216 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:26.240 class well man? 217 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:30.759 All right, So we know how he got into the job, right, 218 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:31.879 Your old male was on the job. 219 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.120 Yeah, my father did thirty years Uh wow he uh. 220 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.360 He pushed me to take the test and I actually 221 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.120 took the test for the fire department when I was 222 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.600 in high school. I was like seventeen years old. It's 223 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.080 a great picture of the old man in the that's 224 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:48.559 the fifth division, Frank Fellini. So my father started out 225 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.600 in fifty engine. His feet, he was a big man. 226 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.399 And that your dad on the left on the right, 227 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.080 the deputy is Frank Fellin. Yeah, my dad is the 228 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.960 boss with helmet on, all right. So he started out 229 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.000 in fifty engine when they had two sections, right. He 230 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.279 did a year in Vietnam and then he came home 231 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:11.159 in nineteen sixty seven, he went to fifty engine they 232 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.519 had two sections. Then he went across the floor to 233 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:17.120 nineteen truck. Then he eventually went to thirty nine truck, 234 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:19.879 got promoted, went to eighty engine as a lieutenant, which 235 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.120 is the same house that I finished up in eighty 236 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.840 and twenty three. 237 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:25.440 Yeah. 238 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.840 What now that I look at this roof, it's starting 239 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:30.480 to click. I might being that smart, but. 240 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:34.440 I putting them together, I'm smart. 241 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.399 Yeah. So then he went to a thirty seven truck 242 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:40.559 in the Bronx and he retired out of fifty two 243 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:47.159 engine in nineteen ninety seven. Korea. Man, No, that's it 244 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:48.720 just me. Yeah? 245 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:50.120 Is that fifty two and fifty two? 246 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:54.960 Yes, sir, right off the Henry Hudson's fifty two. 247 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.440 That was the first company that ever had the same 248 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:05.120 number in the same house way before ten fifteen times Riverdale. Right, yes, yeah, yeah, man, 249 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.720 after you take the test and then you shove off 250 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:08.679 as a marie. 251 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.879 So I decided to Uh. My high school had Navy ROTC. 252 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.039 So while I was in high school, we had the 253 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:19.080 whole program where you learn about the customs and the 254 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.720 courtesies of the military. I had instructors that were Marines 255 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.039 and they sent us on class trips to do Marine 256 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.000 Corps boot Camp, Navy boot Camp, and Office Canddate school. 257 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.240 So for four years in high school, I was fully 258 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.480 immersed for a week in all these programs. And I said, 259 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.320 you know, that's that's what I want to do. So 260 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.879 I tried to get into the Naval Academy. My dream 261 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.159 was to play football at the Naval Academy, and I 262 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:45.039 didn't get in. So I decided maybe I'll try the reserves. 263 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.679 And my father wanted me to do reserves. He wanted 264 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.679 me to go to college. And he told me, you know, 265 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.399 the fire apartment is going to call you. You just gotta wait, right, 266 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:57.000 And I don't think I realized how easily that was 267 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.480 going to come about. Didn't know how long it was 268 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.120 going to take. So I enlisted in the Marine Reserves. 269 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:08.720 So we did. Uh, there's my boot camp. Wow man, 270 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.759 eighteen years old and about one hundred and sixty pounds. 271 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:14.960 It looks like you just you just snuck over the boat. 272 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.799 No bicky Bannie, big bicky Bonnie. 273 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:18.120 Whatever. 274 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.200 So I went to boot camp, which was thirteen weeks 275 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.120 of hell, and then I went to the School of Infantry. 276 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.320 And after that I came home and I went to school. 277 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.720 I went to Western Connecticut in Danbury, Denbury, Connecticut. 278 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.519 Did you go to Powis Island for boot camp? 279 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:34.159 I did. 280 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:36.360 That's where all marines east of the Mississippi go. 281 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:38.559 All marines. 282 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:40.279 What is this do? 283 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:40.679 Right? 284 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.000 Then this doesert storm? Yeah, so I'm in college. I 285 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.320 do a year of college, right, and uh Iraq invades 286 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.759 the country of Kuwait in the summer of nineteen ninety 287 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:54.080 and uh I get a phone call on a Thursday 288 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:57.000 night and they said, pack your shit, take your car 289 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.519 off the road, and fill out of will. We're leaving 290 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:02.960 this week. Really, I think we had like four days notice. 291 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.159 And they shipped us off to Pendleton in southern California. 292 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.480 So we go out to Camp Pendleton and they hadn't reserved. 293 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.200 They haven't activated reserves since the Korean War, and I 294 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.879 think back then the president only had authorization to activate 295 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.279 reserves for ninety days. So we go to California and 296 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.960 they send us out into the desert to do operations 297 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.960 and fire weapons round the clock for three weeks straight. 298 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.240 And then they tell us all right, next week, we're 299 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:34.080 gonna get on the ships in San Diego ships. Oh man, 300 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:36.279 I'm into reserves. They can't do that to us, and 301 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.600 that became the running joke. They can't do that to us. 302 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:41.320 Were in Hawaii and they. 303 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:44.840 Said it kind of fits pretty good in the FDNY exactly. 304 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.759 Yeah, they can't do it to the fireman. Yeah, So 305 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.639 they activate us, they ship us off to Hawaii, and 306 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.159 the next thing, you know, we say, all right, now 307 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.360 we're going to the Philippines. Philippines, I gotta go back. 308 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.399 I got class next semester, I gotta get back. And 309 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:00.879 then when we leave the Philippines and so we're going 310 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.759 to go to the Persian Golf and the President extended 311 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.320 the ninety days to uh I think three hundred and 312 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.840 sixty days, so we were in it for the long haul. 313 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:10.200 So then we go to. 314 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.840 Sally Baby. Yeah, he went to Camp Penalty. I remember him. 315 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.559 He did the same thing. Yeah, you didn't. 316 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.440 Buy yourself a wife in the Philippines like I did, 317 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:20.679 did you? 318 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:21.240 I did not. 319 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:21.720 I did. 320 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:28.399 So we get to the Persian Golf and they have 321 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:32.799 us do a rehearsal amphibious landing in the country of Oman. 322 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.639 So now we're like, this ship's real. And then we 323 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.320 go to Kuwait and where we land in Saudi Arabia, 324 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.600 we spend I guess I don't know, about a month 325 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.279 or two in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. And those were 326 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.440 the photographs that I put in there. That's a great 327 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.799 photo of my fire team with our hum V behind us. 328 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.080 I'm in the center. The guy to the right of 329 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.960 me is currently the police commissioner in the Yonkers Police Department. 330 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.759 No, yeah, you look kind of bad ass there. 331 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.839 Yeah. We were hungry and tired and cold and wet. 332 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:12.680 This is a an airfield that we had taken. We 333 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.279 utilized Cobra helicopters to take out this airfield. And you 334 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.799 can see that there's no roof on that hangar. That 335 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.119 was an airplane hanger. And these are Russian T seventy 336 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:28.720 two tanks like seventy era tanks that the Iraqis had used, 337 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.599 and of course we destroyed quite happily. 338 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.519 That was kind of like I remember that, I mean 339 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:38.839 the war like they were kind of giving up. I mean, 340 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.279 I know there was fighting and stuff obviously, but yeah, 341 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:43.160 we took. 342 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.519 A lot of surrenders. 343 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.920 Yeah, yeah, right, they were hungrier and tired, more tired 344 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:51.559 than we were, and they were happy to surrender. That 345 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.039 that last photo. It's hard to believe that we landed 346 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.519 in Kuwait the same way, the same technology that they 347 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.839 used in nineteen forty four World War Two. That's an 348 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.920 amphibious craft where it's just packed with marines and they 349 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.079 lower that ramp, they beat it, and then we. 350 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.559 Just walk right off when they storm Normandy, right, it's unbelievable. 351 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.920 Yeah, what did that feel like getting off that thing? 352 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.559 Like actually bizarre, you know, to be on that craft 353 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:19.839 and think that this is the same way they did 354 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.279 it in Normandy. Of course we didn't have the same 355 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:27.599 defense that we didn't meet with a machine gun fire 356 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:29.920 when we got off of the thing, but it was 357 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.559 the same technology and it's it's still utilized today, which 358 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:33.240 is hard to believe. 359 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:35.079 The guy that invented those things. 360 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.759 Was actually a fisherman down in New Orleans, and I 361 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.200 think his name was Higgins, and they call those things 362 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.839 Higgins boats, and he invented those because they were like 363 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.759 in the swamps and in the deltas and they were 364 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.880 going for crawfish and shrimp and they're very low and 365 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:52.400 they don't draw a lot of water, and then you 366 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.480 can lower the ramp and you can drive vehicles off 367 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:55.319 and truth. 368 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:59.759 Yeah yeah, I mean you guys went, well, you guys 369 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.599 went all the way through and then they stopped you 370 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.119 before you got into bed there, right. 371 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.480 Well, some of the the army went into Iraq, the 372 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.279 Marine Corps, we went into Kuwait. We liberated Kuwait City. 373 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.799 Oh you went into Kuwait, that's right, yeah, yeah, right, 374 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:13.640 Kuwait City. 375 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:17.160 So then after that the oil things burning, right, yeah, 376 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.680 it was one of those photographs there, those those oils, 377 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.359 the oil wells were burning. 378 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.319 All the time. That's the photo there that that's midday. 379 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.480 You see the color of that sky. 380 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.359 Yeah, man, how are the Kuwaiti people? Were they happy 381 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:30.039 to see you guys? 382 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.759 Oh? Absolutely? Yeah? Yeah, they met us with open arms. 383 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:34.359 Yeah sure. 384 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:36.119 How about the women were they throwing themselves out? 385 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.119 You I didn't see any women. We stayed far away 386 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:39.400 from that. 387 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.200 Yeah, well you couldn't see. And they're all covering up. 388 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:46.640 And there exactly you see the eyes on her on 389 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:47.000 that one. 390 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:52.880 Very hairy feet though I don't know, knuckles, hairy knuckles. 391 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:57.440 I mean, so, how are you there for? 392 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.720 We were only in Kuwait for I don't know a 393 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:02.920 couple of weeks, and then they put us back on 394 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.920 the ships and then they sent us to Somalia. 395 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.559 Because you were doing it, Steven. 396 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.519 We were doing it. We had to evacuate the US 397 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.319 embassy in Somalia, and if you recall in nineteen ninety three, 398 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.599 two years later, they had the incident with the black 399 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:17.119 Hawk down. 400 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:17.599 Yeah. 401 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.640 Yeah, my uncle was actually then ambassador in that embassy there. 402 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:24.279 During the black Hawk down, he had to get his 403 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:26.400 family out of there in a chaplain. 404 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:31.920 Well why didn't he leave when we came? We were 405 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:34.440 there in ninety one. We evacuated the embassy. Yeah, and 406 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.720 then we left Somalia and we thought this is great, 407 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.480 you know, we're finally going home. And a typhoon had 408 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.880 come through the Indian Ocean and hit the country of Bangladesh, 409 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:49.759 which is just east of India, and it killed one 410 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:51.400 hundred and fifty thousand people. 411 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:53.160 What. 412 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.440 Oh wow, you don't hearing that one right, Like, yeah, 413 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:01.359 that was summer of ninety one. That was probably one 414 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.759 of the top ten deadliest typhoons in the history of 415 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.920 the world. Wow. Yeah. 416 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:11.119 So we got set to uh doing the world typhoons. 417 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.960 So we went there for humanitarian efforts and then uh 418 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.400 we went to the Philippines again after that, and uh, 419 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.519 Mount Pinatubo erupted the volcano in the Philippines. 420 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.200 I said, man, we're never going home. 421 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:29.359 I building, Yeah. 422 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:31.720 So we got shirts made up that said Fifth Marine 423 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.519 Saved the World tour like a concert shirt. It was nuts. 424 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:35.880 Yeah. 425 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:39.440 So then uh, we get home and we got home 426 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:42.720 in July July. Third next day was fourth of July, 427 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.960 which was appropriate. We had a nice party and I 428 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.599 called my investigator and they said, you know, there's going 429 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.440 to be a class next month in August. Good news 430 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.559 and bad news. I go, what's the bad news? She goes, 431 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.720 you you haven't had a medical in six months. They expire, 432 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.559 so you can't go into the next class. I said, wait, 433 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:02.480 hold on, hold that time out. I got called twice 434 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.759 when I was twenty my list number I was at 435 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:06.240 the top of the list. I got called twice when 436 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.559 I was twenty and I had to defer because they said, 437 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.880 you can't be a fireman at twenty one. We can 438 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.799 give you a rifle and send you to a far 439 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.960 off land. Yeah, but you can't be. 440 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:15.759 A fireman. 441 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:18.640 Exactly. 442 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.240 It makes no sense, such an arbitrary rule. 443 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.480 And then they had another class in April, and I 444 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:27.279 missed that class because I was deployed. So of course 445 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:29.079 I told my father. I said, yeah, they're not going 446 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.440 to put me in the next class. They're gonna defer 447 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.359 me again. And he said, no, no, that's bullshit, and down. 448 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:35.759 This hold on son. 449 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.079 So as luck would have it, when my father was 450 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.599 a fireman, luck is a beautiful thing. 451 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:44.839 When my father was a fireman in. 452 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:49.400 Fifty engine, he had a captain named Carlos rivera ah, 453 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.279 and it just so happened to my luck that he 454 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.359 was the fire commissioner in nineteen ninety one. Wow. So 455 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.000 my father made a phone call and lo and behold, 456 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:00.480 they had an opening for a medical ex am. I 457 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.160 got a new physical, and in August eleventh, I was 458 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:03.640 in the fire. 459 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:10.440 An amazing set of circumstances, very unusual set of circumstances. 460 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:14.960 Wow, every time somebody mentions it, it kind of baffles me. 461 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:20.279 So you going to Proby School, which has been a 462 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.440 joke by then, was coming from Paris Island. 463 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:23.319 You're like, yeah, it. 464 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:26.400 Was eight weeks. It was a little bit of a joke. 465 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:28.839 I actually was treating my squad. 466 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:30.680 It made me a squad lader. I treated like they 467 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:32.400 were a bunch of marines and they looked at me like, 468 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.200 you know, what's wrong with this fucking guy? Yeah? 469 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.880 Anybody any famous guys? 470 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.440 You know famous? I don't know about famous, but I'll 471 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:45.160 tell you what. There's only a few of them left. 472 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:48.400 Doug Batterbury is and I think he's in three h three. 473 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.359 I don't know if you guys know Doug. He's still around. 474 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.559 You got Tommy kaneen and seventy five Engine Murph. 475 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.200 And Rescue three. 476 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.240 Uh. Yeah, that there's only a handful of guys left. 477 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:00.920 How big was the class? 478 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:02.119 Only one hundred. 479 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.119 In that class? 480 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:05.599 I don't remember that name. No. 481 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.039 Yeah, so you have high list? You were on my 482 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:11.759 that was the eighty seven test, Yes, yes it was. 483 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.960 What was your My number was seventeen fifty two. My 484 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:16.480 list of one in ninety three. 485 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.920 Four fourteen who he was. 486 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:21.759 He was one and four around then. 487 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:23.160 Bro, it wasn't falling around. 488 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:24.480 Yeah. 489 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.759 So being probed school and they call your name and 490 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:28.200 they're like. 491 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:34.640 Oh yeah, thirty truck. Yeah look again. Yeah lucky. You know, 492 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:39.799 some guys get lucky, you know, man, the old man. Yeah, 493 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.319 you were just as young as you did when you 494 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.599 were in the Thanks brother. So you probably don't believe me, 495 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.839 But I didn't know where thirty Truck was because my 496 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.559 father didn't talk to me in Provay school about where 497 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:53.519 I was gonna go, where he wanted me to go. 498 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.279 He just you know, let the cards fall. Of course, 499 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.559 he made some phone calls and he wanted me to 500 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.799 go to thirty Truck because he knew the chiefs in 501 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.599 the sixteenth Battime. So you had Frank Griffin. He was 502 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.880 the battalion commander. He was assault the old bastard. He 503 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.559 survived the Jenning Street collapse. So up in the Bronx 504 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.119 by eighty two engine there was a building that collapse 505 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.440 and I think five or six men were trapped and 506 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:18.680 he was one of the guys and he was burnt 507 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.240 horribly on his backside. He survived that collapse. He was 508 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.119 the one sixth Battalion commander when I got there. Then 509 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:28.200 you had Nick Visconti, who later became a staff chief. 510 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.519 My father worked with him in fifty Engine. They were 511 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:35.599 ProBiS together. You had Bernie Cassidy and Tom Kennedy. Tom 512 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:37.960 Kennedy became a deputy and he was one of the 513 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.480 authors of Latice three. 514 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.839 Right, So I walked in there. Did you say that 515 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:48.480 to the guys like, listen, I don't even know worse 516 00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.240 you listen, I don't know what the fuck you guys, cubes, 517 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:54.720 it's worse. 518 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.960 So we're in provy school and they tell us all 519 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.480 go to your firehouses. Were graduating tomorrow. You gotta go 520 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:03.680 to your firehouse, bring a cake, knock on the door 521 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.720 and introduce yourselves and get your group number. Blah blah blah. Right, 522 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.000 So I go to the firehouse and they're not there. 523 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:13.279 So I knock on the door and I wait, and 524 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.720 I think I had my the guy I did the 525 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.400 carpool with with me. So we waited for like an 526 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.079 hour and a half and the companies didn't come back, 527 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.720 so they must have been out of fire. So I said, 528 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.359 you know, we got to go because we had to 529 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.759 go to his firehouse, and I figured, I got to 530 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:29.119 go home. 531 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.359 You know, I'll go visit the firehouse tomorrow night. I 532 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:32.960 wasn't thinking. 533 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.440 So the next day we graduate from the academy and 534 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.599 I go to the firehouse with my parents and the 535 00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.599 girl I was dating. The men were not happy. 536 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:43.920 No cake. 537 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.599 No, I had a cake, and then the men were 538 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.240 not happy. So we get We get to the front door, 539 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.160 and who answers the door? But the Captain Abe Hayman 540 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.200 was my captain and he was He was a fireman 541 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:56.920 and seventy one engine. 542 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.079 A lieutenant in twenty eight truck. 543 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.119 He worked in the war years, and he worked with 544 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.480 my father, and him and my father embrace on a 545 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.200 big hug and he invites us into the kitchen and 546 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.640 we're sitting at the kitchen. I got my mom, the 547 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.400 girl I'm dating, my dad, and all the guys start 548 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.039 filtering into kitchen. And now, mind you, I'm twenty one 549 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.599 years old and the captain is pouring me a cup 550 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.559 of coffee. You want some milk and cream with that? 551 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.200 The men were not happy. 552 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.359 We had no I didn't know. 553 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:24.599 They were very upset. 554 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.119 They don't forget that. 555 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.359 They just a yeah, yeah, So I got my group number, 556 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.200 I left the firehouse, and I paid dearly for it 557 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:38.039 for the next back in the street. Exactly so. I 558 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.839 remember one of my first runs. I don't know if 559 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.480 it was the first run or the second run. 560 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:43.200 Uh. 561 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.599 A grade, a first grade class. 562 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.160 Had come to the firehouse school kids, and one of 563 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.519 the guys says, hey, Proby, I want you to show 564 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.759 them the rig, open every compartment and show them every tool. 565 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.680 It'll help you, you know, be familiar with the rig, 566 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:00.880 and it'll bore the ship out of them and they'll leave. 567 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.839 So the kids we get a run. I usher the 568 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:06.759 kids out of the firehouse. 569 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:07.039 Let's go. 570 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:08.519 You gotta go, you gotta go. We have a run. 571 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:10.720 We got a report of fire. I run back. I 572 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.599 close the compartments in the rig, I get dressed, I 573 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.000 jump on a rig, and we tear out of the firehouse. 574 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.440 We make the left onto Lennox Avenue, and the entire 575 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.000 contents of the rear compartment empties. 576 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:21.440 Out onto. 577 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:24.319 The beat goes on. 578 00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.880 Baby. Nothing like starting off your first day. 579 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.039 Yeah, so we get back to quarters. 580 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.960 This is what this is what not to do. Sure, 581 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.200 you close the compartments, close your first door. 582 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:40.519 I knew you were going to say that. 583 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.440 So we get back to the firehouse and they send 584 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:44.680 me around the corner with a radio, and I was 585 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.880 basically begging and borrowing to purchase all the tools that 586 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.200 spilled onto the avenue from. 587 00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.200 The locals in the neighborhood. 588 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.799 Yeah, so I think I spent my first Yeah. 589 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.599 So did any of the Obviously some of the guys 590 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.319 there besides the captain that knew your dad, right, did 591 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:05.039 they Yeah? 592 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.240 Military, right, So my father knew all four of the officers, 593 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.240 Captain Hayman, he was the captain at the time. Then 594 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.839 you had Jack McDonald is a photograph with me and 595 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.039 Jack when I was getting my thirty patch. Jack was 596 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.440 a fireman a twenty eight truck. He did a life 597 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.079 saving rope rescue. He got a Gordon Bennett for it. 598 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.119 He wound up becoming a battalion chief and the president 599 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.319 of the union. He was a great instructor, great fire officer, 600 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.759 and he was a big mentor to me at the 601 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.920 time I was there. And then you had Gary Wright, 602 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:40.839 he was a lieutenant. He was also a fireman in 603 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.559 twenty eight. And Kenny O'Brien was a fireman a fifty 604 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.079 six truck. So these guys rolled from the neighborhood of 605 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.319 the Bronx. My father knew them all, and they knew 606 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:50.759 their job. They knew it well. 607 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.240 Yeah, did you feel like they were a little tougher 608 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.920 just because they knew you were you know, your dad 609 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.480 and they knew that you were in the military, just 610 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.680 not you know, you know what I'm saying in a 611 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.799 good way. Tough in a good way at that point, right, 612 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:04.960 you could. 613 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.480 Say that I was very intimidated. You had guys. 614 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.720 Everybody there was twice my age. You had guys there 615 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.160 that had children that were my age. Wow. 616 00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.160 Yeah, So it was intimidating. Nick. 617 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.720 I remember he was on vacation and I think the 618 00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.119 first time I saw him, we were out on a 619 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.440 run and he drove past the rig and he screamed 620 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:28.599 at me, I got a babysit you. 621 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:28.920 Yeah. 622 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.559 He drilled us hard. He he took that rig out 623 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:33.960 every single tour, rain or shine. 624 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:35.200 He drilled with us. 625 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.319 He taught us our trade and made sure we knew 626 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.119 what we were doing and where we were going. 627 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.039 You ever run into a guy in your career that 628 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:43.440 loved the job as much as him? 629 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.480 No, I listened. I met a lot of guys and 630 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.759 runs through his veins. Bro. He's the type of guy 631 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:55.079 you could go to Chicago, Boston, Detroit and drop his 632 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.079 name and guys. 633 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.119 Going everybody, I know where you go. 634 00:30:58.519 --> 00:30:59.359 It's unbelievable. 635 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:05.039 The last year, Hey, you know, Nick, it's unbelievable. Yeah. 636 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:09.960 Who else do you think that that you, uh, you know, 637 00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.359 took took you under their wing kind of thing, you 638 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:13.920 know what I mean? Who else did you feel like? 639 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.759 There was guys a little younger? And how much time 640 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.119 did Nick have at that time? Oh, Keith, I mean 641 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:18.720 how much. 642 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.799 I'd tell you he probably only had like twelve to 643 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:23.720 fifteen years. 644 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.079 Yeah, but he acted like he was the senior man. 645 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.759 He wasn't the senior man, but he acted like he was. 646 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.759 Yeah, was that younger guys that you felt like you 647 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.759 like you were you the ones? 648 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.960 Uh? But they put my class in and then four 649 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.880 weeks later they put another class in. So four weeks 650 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.440 after I graduated, Craig Sweet came to the firehouse. So 651 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.519 we were both progised to guys and we were there 652 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.960 together for six years before another probe became. Wow. 653 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:55.160 Yeah, so what about the middle of the road guys, 654 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:56.839 Any guys in the middle of the row like that's 655 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:58.359 what we were saying that you kind of. 656 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:00.960 Yeah, I mean there were so many. Al Grogan is 657 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.160 one of the photographs that I'm going to show you. Uh. 658 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:05.759 Al was a great mentor. 659 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:06.720 Uh. 660 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:11.319 He was a wonderful fireman, a family man. Everything about him, 661 00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.880 I say, is with the utmost of respect. And then 662 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.079 lo and behold, twenty five years later, his kid gets 663 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:19.920 on the job and he sends him to twenty three 664 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.400 truck and uh, one of the proudest moments of my career. 665 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.640 I love that man, absolutely absolutely. 666 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.480 Yeah. 667 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.839 So you know, here's a kid that he he trained 668 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.480 and broke in and now his. 669 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.440 Uh that trust trust you trust you enough to do 670 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.000 that to his Yeah, I. 671 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.680 Mean, well, no, no greater respect. 672 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.400 Yeahd t any pictures of the Ferry truck that we've 673 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.400 been talking that you you know you're not paying attention. 674 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.400 I'm paying attention, said later, if you want to. 675 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:55.799 Go, I'll talk about that, Greg. Greg if I remember right, 676 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.119 because we had Craig he was he was in the military, 677 00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.119 right or his dad was. 678 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.240 I think his father was in the Military's fallow was 679 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.519 in twenty eight truck. Highly respected man. So here's a photo. 680 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.039 This is a pre bunker gear. So we're wearing rubber 681 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.400 boots and we wore our harnesses right over our dungarees. 682 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:17.319 And that's myself, and then next to me is Anthony Shallow. 683 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.720 I was in his groups. Then Kenny Harring, two men 684 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.359 that I really looked up to and respected. They trained me, 685 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.519 worked with me all the time. Then nicolelo and Al 686 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.759 Mullinari is the last one. I think Al still on 687 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.440 the job. Wow. I don't know if you know any 688 00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:34.519 of those guys. 689 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.519 We have just a picture of the old school rig 690 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:38.359 back that was. 691 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.720 Our first rig that was a mac And I think 692 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.839 the striking thing about this photograph if you look in 693 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.440 the background, every single one of those buildings is vacant. 694 00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:47.680 I look at it that they're all. 695 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.039 Bricked up man in the background, a bunch of tools 696 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:50.759 on the floor there. I do. 697 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:59.200 Guys running off with Elliott must have been working state. 698 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.720 Did you feel like most of the buildings were like 699 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.519 that in the in the area when you got there, 700 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:04.720 not most of. 701 00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.720 Them were vacant. I think we probably had one hundred 702 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.239 and fifty vacant buildings in our first two area, but 703 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.519 predominantly tenements, then brownstones and projects. Yeah, so I got 704 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.800 a good mix of building construction and types. 705 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.360 Yeah, right, And then my. 706 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.159 Second day tour, we caught a job. My first day, 707 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.480 you caught a job on your first d My first day, 708 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.679 we caught a job. So this is before they had 709 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.119 the fast truck. There was no such thing as a 710 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.400 fast truck. So if you were third due, you got 711 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.519 put to work. So we get there third due, and 712 00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.039 they sent us to the upper floors. We did searches, 713 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.760 and then I think we went down to the fire 714 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.159 apartment to pull ceilings. But we would go to fires 715 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.519 all the way south to one hundred and fifteenth Street 716 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.480 and get put to work where twenty six truck is, 717 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:51.880 and we'd go to forty three truck and forty truck 718 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.840 and twenty three truck, thirty four truck, twenty eight truck, 719 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:56.920 we'd go to the Bronx fifty five truck. We'd be 720 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.840 third doe and we get put to work. And then 721 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.880 they invented the fast truck and that ended that. So 722 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:03.800 then you were third duo. You were standing in the street, 723 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.719 which we didn't appreciate. So yeah, the first day tour, 724 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.519 we caught a job. My second day tour, we catch 725 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.199 another job and twenty eight truck is out, so it's 726 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.960 one of their boxes. We get in first two and 727 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.519 sixty nine had the line and I think it was 728 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.719 up on one hundred and forty first Street and seven 729 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.360 to eighth Avenue and we get into the apartment and 730 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.639 the officer hands me a dead kid. We go out 731 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.599 in the hallway. I'm doing CPR. The kid was like 732 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.679 three years old, and then the boss came out with 733 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.400 his brother. It was like five years old. So that 734 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.239 was my second day in the job. Two dead kids. Yeah, 735 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.440 I don't even walk on you. Yeah, it was a 736 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.280 crazy way to start your career. And then I came 737 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.440 home and told my father about that, and he says, well, 738 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:43.920 I guess if you're not going to quit after this, 739 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:44.440 you're not going. 740 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.599 To quit, right. 741 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:46.960 Yeah. 742 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:48.679 Basically get used to seeing that. 743 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:50.199 I got a class. 744 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.599 Let's talk about the class too, medal you got while 745 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.199 you're in I don't. 746 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.360 Have any good pictures of that fire. That fire was 747 00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:57.840 in a project. 748 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.639 How long we are by them? 749 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.199 Maybe five six years? 750 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.639 Oh? All right. We were at a box and we 751 00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.559 were taking up and we were backing out of the 752 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.639 block because of double parked cars, and civilian pointed up 753 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.239 and said, ye know fire mean, look, there's a fire. 754 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.559 So we got into the building. Another situation where twenty 755 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.039 eight truck I think should have been first due on 756 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.920 a ticket, but we wound up getting in first. And 757 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:27.119 the show for John Barry crackerjack fireman, excellent fireman. He 758 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.400 says to me, I think the stick is going to 759 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.079 reach that window. It was fire was on the eighth floor. 760 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.400 So he put the rig up onto the sidewalk and 761 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.440 he was able to get the larial straight up to 762 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.480 the eighth floor. And I had the ov so I 763 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.400 went up. I got to the windows and the company 764 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.159 was in the public hall waiting for a line, and 765 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:51.920 I asked the chief. I said, you want me to 766 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.239 take these windows? He said, no, don't take the windows yet. 767 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:54.599 Hold up. 768 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:55.960 So I just opened the window. 769 00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.800 I slipped in and there was a woman unconscious on 770 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.000 the floor right undneath the window. 771 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:00.440 Wow. 772 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:02.960 So I took her back out onto the tip of 773 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.159 the aerial and uh, because that was the only room 774 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.519 that wasn't on fire, the one we put the aerial too, 775 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.119 and I held her on the tip of the aerial. 776 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.280 She was unconscious, so there was no way I was. 777 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:13.880 Carrying her down. 778 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.920 Oh no, no way going down. 779 00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:17.360 I don't think. 780 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:19.320 I don't think I could have carried a Teddy Bear 781 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:19.840 down that thing. 782 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:21.679 You would have taken the express route down. 783 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:22.480 Yeah exactly. 784 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.239 Yeah. So I just held her on the tip of 785 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.239 the aerial and then uh, after the brothers put the 786 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.400 fire out, we went back into the window and then 787 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.119 took her in the interior. She made it. She made it. 788 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.880 I think she was seventy years old. Yeah she survived. 789 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.360 Yeah, tump old bird. 790 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.679 Yeah. Those women, they went to more fires than I did. 791 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:45.920 You would get there, open up the door, the woman 792 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.480 would be like, yeah, it's two rooms in the back 793 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:48.679 on the Yeah. 794 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.960 Yeah exactly. And I got my face piece on taking 795 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:52.679 it down that area. 796 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.440 That will be like putting on a Santa clous. 797 00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:58.880 It wouldn't have been pretty. 798 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.840 I have to say this, So I think I've said 799 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.280 this before on the podcast. So I got on May 800 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.119 ninety three and I was just like throwing myself into 801 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:09.519 the job. 802 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:09.719 Right. 803 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.639 I loved the whole thing. Fire is right. Wasn't buffy 804 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.360 about the rig and what year and the engine and 805 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.239 all this other bullshit. I just wanted to know who 806 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.639 was working, right. I just wanted to learn. And I 807 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.760 remember I say this. I remember sitting in the watch 808 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.079 even I would obviously always take the watch. Whoever had 809 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:27.719 the senior guy was I would. When I was working, 810 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.360 I would take the watch and I would listen to 811 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.639 the radio and it would scan, right, obviously be on Queens, 812 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:36.639 but if they weren't talking on Queens, it would scan 813 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.880 and I would in Manhattan boop box one two four seven, 814 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.840 you know box box one, four three five, right, you know, 815 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.760 all hands going to work, you know, and then it 816 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.840 would come over over the bitch box, you know, second 817 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.159 alarm in the Borough of Manhattan, you know fourteen, you 818 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.880 know one hundred and thirty eighth Street and sixth Avenue. 819 00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:56.039 Right. 820 00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:02.559 It was just over and over and over to like ridiculousness. 821 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.559 And I would look at the map. We had the 822 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.039 map with all the firehouses, right yeah, and I would 823 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.559 like you just made me think about this before twenty 824 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.079 eight thirty. 825 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.559 Twenty three, very close together. 826 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.360 I mean, when you think about you guys had to 827 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.159 be running in like we ran in with the same companies, 828 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.519 but not always you guys are running in with the 829 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.199 same If you stayed in your groups, you were probably 830 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:30.239 seeing the same guys as multiple times. Twenty four right, 831 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.360 and it was just like this incredible And I remember 832 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.000 saying like after like I think I was there probably 833 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.079 like three years. I was in one seventeen in Astoria, 834 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:41.400 and I'm like, I gotta start, I gotta start thinking, 835 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:42.920 you know, I wanted to do more work, you know, 836 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.320 and I can move thirty. I put in for thirty 837 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.719 three truck. I went to go see the captain. But 838 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.840 I remember thinking like that that was incredible, how and 839 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.639 that that's in ninety one two three, right, I mean, 840 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.079 And I went off for a few years. You know. 841 00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.920 It started obviously, like everybody you know, started dying down. 842 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.280 But I remember remember in. 843 00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.199 Nineteen ninety one forty truck was number one in the 844 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:10.480 city for osws, which one forty truck there were number 845 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.239 one in the city and we ran in with them 846 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:12.599 all time. 847 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.440 So they were one hundred and. 848 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.840 Twenty fifth Street. There were three firehouses one hundred and 849 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.639 twenty fifth Street. You had thirty five or fourteen thirty 850 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.039 six engine were by themselves. 851 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:21.559 They got closed and O three. 852 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.719 They were back to around the corner from each other, 853 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:24.559 right around the court. 854 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:26.360 They're two hundred and fifty feet away from each other, 855 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.159 right and then on the west side of twenty fifth Street, 856 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:33.079 you had thirty seven and forty and uh, we were 857 00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.719 one hundred and thirty third Street. Eighty and twenty three 858 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.559 is one hundred and thirty ninth Street, sixty nine twenty eight, 859 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.400 one hundred and forty third Street. These firehouses are right 860 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.639 on top of each other, and Manhattan at the top 861 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.480 of the island is only a mile wide. 862 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:47.599 Now, how would it were they like? 863 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.280 Because I know the Bronx is like, it's your whatever 864 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.519 you are on the ticket, that's what you do. Brooklyn 865 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.599 is like, I get there, I first due what was 866 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:55.280 it like up there? 867 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.480 And so we were gentlemen. If if we were first 868 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.559 doing the ticket, excuse me, If we were second doing 869 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.960 the ticket and we got in and the first two 870 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.119 company was nowhere in sight, then we would take it. 871 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.480 But if we saw them coming, we're not gonna cut 872 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.400 them off. We're gonna wait, let them in the block. 873 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.679 And if we had any details on the rig from Brooklyn, 874 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.719 we would drive even slower because you knew that they 875 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:19.360 were going crazy in the back of the rig. 876 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:20.880 What the fuck you guys doing? 877 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.800 But you know what, And again, if you if you're 878 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.639 working so closely with these companies. Yeah, you know two 879 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.599 ninety one oh three, you know, to get to one 880 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.840 oh seven, it's it's like thirty blocks, forty blocks, Like 881 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.000 it's some ridiculous thing. 882 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.679 We would go five blocks in any direction. That's when 883 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.440 you weren't first do. 884 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.800 Anymore, right, that's crazy, So you would think that. That's 885 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:41.760 why I think that comes from, even in the Bronx 886 00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.800 is it's you're so close, right that it would be 887 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.280 stupid to try and screw somebody out of something just 888 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:50.920 because this time out. 889 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.199 Bro, When I was in too ten, here's two ten, 890 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.920 here's two nine to one on two, they were close, bro, 891 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.360 and they would come down myrtle l abe, one of 892 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.159 the first ones I ever had. I was leaning. 893 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.599 Back like this because I thought it was going to 894 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:05.119 be a crash. 895 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:12.639 Holy oh, they're a little closer. They're a little closer 896 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:12.960 over there. 897 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.360 Different worlds, yeah, Yeah, it's interesting how different areas of 898 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:17.639 the city act so differently. 899 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:18.360 Yeah. 900 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:18.840 Different. 901 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.800 When you talk to the guys who were there for 902 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.239 a while when you got there, what did they say, 903 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.519 It was like like during the fucking war years over. 904 00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:32.800 There, man, they would tell stories that were unbelievable, right, yeah, unbelieva. 905 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.559 Meanwhile, you think you're going to fight like you and 906 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.880 you will go, oh yeah, right, you like holy shit, 907 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.280 Like it's got to be comparable. 908 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.639 I can't imagine its busier than the imagine, right. No, 909 00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.079 but it was because these guys knew their job. 910 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:44.599 And they knew it well. 911 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.920 I listened to the old audio and I laughed myself. 912 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.559 Sterical man like his companies going all over the place. 913 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.239 No available companies, you know, send me what you got. 914 00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.480 My father told me. 915 00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.079 My father told me the night Martin Luther, doctor Martin 916 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.800 Luther King was assassinated, there was like thirteen old Hands 917 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.239 or greater fires in the sixteenth Battalion. And he told 918 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.400 me every fire company that came into Manhattan and operated 919 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:12.800 in the sixteenth Battalion. 920 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.039 That night got a unit citation. 921 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.960 Wow, thirteen old hands fires. I mean there must have 922 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.119 been companies from all over the city getting in first two. 923 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.559 Think about I was just going to say that too. 924 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.840 Think about a second or third alarm by thirty truck. Yeah, 925 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.280 every company in the whole north of Manhattan. 926 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.039 Is there, correct, right? I mean, so now you've got 927 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.519 relocators everywhere. 928 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.880 Your backfill and everything whatever you can backfill as quick 929 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.239 as possible. You're not sending somebody from South Queen. I 930 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.400 mean you can right, It's going to take them for 931 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:43.239 three hours to get that. 932 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.280 And I remember several occasions where we would come back 933 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.079 to quarters after a job and there would be a 934 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.119 pile of shoes on the apparatus floor because the relocators 935 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.440 courted job. That was great. Yeah, good night. 936 00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.199 What's the most jobs you ever went to? Thirty in 937 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:01.559 a tour? 938 00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.760 I remember more than one occasion where we went to 939 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.320 three or four jobs in a night. Yeah, there's a 940 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.199 photograph there, the black and white photo. I think that 941 00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.480 was in the morning. It was, as we affectionately called it, 942 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:18.280 a Harlem sunrise, and that was probably a three job 943 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.239 night there. So on the left there is Ali Pasha. 944 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.039 He did like ten or twelve years in the engine 945 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.320 and then went across the Florida truck and did another 946 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.440 twelve years in the truck. Wow. Then I mentioned Al Grogan, 947 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.679 his son is in twenty three truck. Now I'm in 948 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.159 the center. Then you got Jimmy Curran and Craig Thweet. 949 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:41.840 Jimmy Curran was the strongest man I ever met in 950 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.719 my life. Not just the strongest fireman, the strongest man. 951 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.840 We used to wrestle around with him and see if 952 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.079 we could pin him to the kitchen table, and he 953 00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.199 would throw four of us off of him without effort. 954 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.280 Yeah, get away from me. 955 00:44:59.320 --> 00:44:59.519 Yeah. 956 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.599 I saw him carry people under one arm and climb 957 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.239 up a ladder and down a ladder like it. 958 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.360 Was a child. 959 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:07.800 He was. 960 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:08.519 He a big guy. 961 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.679 Yeah, he was a big dude. It was a big 962 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.639 really strong, great fireman. And then next to him is 963 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.239 Craig Tweet. We came on together. It was four weeks 964 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.159 after me and he eventually uh went to Brooklyn. I 965 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.440 think he went to one thirteen and then he got 966 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.159 himself into Rescue three and retired out of Rescue three. Right, 967 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.840 and his father was in twenty eight truck his. 968 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.920 Most day of rufe ol prescy. He's got that picture 969 00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:34.880 of his dad hanging from the rope like. 970 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.000 Correct, correct? 971 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:41.559 Yeah, goode because on my list right here it says 972 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:46.039 formed a life saving rope. Yeah, So go through it, 973 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.280 don't leave anything out, give me all the details out, 974 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.039 all of them. 975 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.960 That previous picture on my right is Al Grogan, on 976 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.000 my left is Jimmy Current. Both of those guys were 977 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.119 working and I remember it very vividly because it was 978 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.119 the first night that we had bunker gear, so it 979 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.400 must have been the fall of ninety four, and it 980 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.480 was our second job of the night. It was a 981 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.800 middle of the night and once again we catch a 982 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.519 job and it's not our first do area. So we 983 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.800 roll in. It's forty trucks area, but forty's out, they're 984 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.559 out something else, so thirty seven's got the line. We 985 00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:20.079 pull up. 986 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.199 There's people all over this building. 987 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.559 I fire on two floors and the fire escapes are 988 00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:27.360 filled with people. 989 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:29.639 So Jimmy Kurrn was the chauffeur. He put me up 990 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:30.199 to the roof. 991 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.559 I had the roof position. I went up the aeriel 992 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.320 and he said to me, I'm gonna take the aerial 993 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.360 away because I got to get these people. I said, okay, 994 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.159 And I remember getting up on the roof and twenty 995 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.000 six truck was up there with me. So we took 996 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.440 the bulkhead, we took the skylight, and in the rear 997 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.800 of the building there was a shaft. It was probably 998 00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.800 eight foot by eight foot and it was enclosed, so 999 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.880 there was no way to get into that shaft with 1000 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:54.800 a portable ladder. 1001 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.199 There was no access from the rear and I. 1002 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.599 Peer over the side and fire is on two floors 1003 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:03.360 in the front of the building. Now I'm in the 1004 00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.639 middle towards the rear, and there's a woman on the 1005 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.039 floor above and smoke is chugging out of the window 1006 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.280 below her and over her head as an elderly woman. 1007 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.800 I said, all right, there's only one way to get her. 1008 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:15.440 We gotta go. 1009 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.760 So I told radar to the officer and the inside 1010 00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:22.039 team let them know where she was, and twenty six 1011 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:26.320 truck hooked me up and lowered me into that shaft. Yeah, 1012 00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.639 it was a little nutty because when I got to 1013 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.199 the window, she wasn't there anymore. I said, she either 1014 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.760 jumped or now she's unconscious, right, So I maneuvering myself 1015 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.440 so that I could get into the window. I got 1016 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.800 into the window, I unclipped myself from the life saving 1017 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.079 rope and she was there on the floor unconscious. 1018 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:45.320 No way. 1019 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.559 Yeah, so I picked her up, and then I said, 1020 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.639 how the hell am I going to get her out 1021 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.079 of this apartment? Because there's no way I can pick 1022 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.000 her up and go back out that window. Put the 1023 00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.840 rope back on myself. So fortunately the inside team had 1024 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.079 made their way into that room at that moment, and 1025 00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.320 we were able to take get drag her out and 1026 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.199 carry her out through the interior to building. So I 1027 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.800 was very fortunate that it was successful and then we 1028 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.599 were able to save a life. But she made it too. 1029 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:15.920 Yeah. 1030 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:17.360 Yeah. 1031 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.800 And then Jimmy Curran, the guy that was the chauffeur. 1032 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.400 I think he grabbed like three people at that job, 1033 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:24.760 and uh he. 1034 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.280 Went to Metal Day that year. He got two separate 1035 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:28.719 metals for two separate fires. 1036 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.800 It was insane. And then one the one grab he made, 1037 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.239 he went into the window and there was an unconscious 1038 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.840 guy on a wheelchair. So he picks the guy up, 1039 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.960 throws the wheelchair, and goes back out the window onto 1040 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.639 the aerial ladder and he's taking her down the taking 1041 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.159 the guy down the aerial and one of his frigging 1042 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.599 legs falls off. He's got prosthetic legs, so everybody in 1043 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:57.960 the street is screaming his legs off. Crazy shit. 1044 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:03.840 Did you get a medal for that day? 1045 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:05.559 I did not get a medal. We got a unit. 1046 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.159 Citation really take the unit. I think Jimmy. 1047 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.639 Might have gotten a metal because he grabbed like two 1048 00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.639 or three people and we got a unit citation. Yeah, 1049 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:15.280 that was that was. 1050 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:16.880 Great going on a rope. 1051 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:18.960 Well I didn't take her out on a rope, so 1052 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:20.320 that's probably why the chief didn't. 1053 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.519 Not what you you went over the side on it. 1054 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:29.920 You listen, you're you're comparing that now, right right, you 1055 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.159 take somebody off a ladder. I see it online all 1056 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.440 the time. Oh, nice grab. I'm like, dude, that's not 1057 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.639 a grab. Like I taking somebody out of a window. 1058 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.679 It's not a grab. Right, Well, if they're unconscious, it 1059 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.000 is talking about treking a woman out from. 1060 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.400 I agree, I agree. That's a removal. That's a removal, right. 1061 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.239 You don't get medals for that pretty exposure. 1062 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.000 Well, this is what I'm saying. Nowadays, things are, you know, 1063 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.119 a little bit different. You know, back then there were 1064 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.840 guys doing you were just doing your job, you know 1065 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.440 what I mean, the cheap would Did. 1066 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.400 You get the Al sasset for that one? 1067 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:02.679 No? 1068 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:04.280 That was when I was in four truck. I got 1069 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:05.199 the Al Sassin medal? 1070 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.559 Did I skip ahead? Oh yeah, I'm sorry? 1071 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.719 Yeah, yeah, coops, there's I'm falling all over the place. 1072 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.000 I don't know, I don't know. Full out of his pocket. 1073 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:17.679 If you throw a couple of those pictures up. 1074 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:19.599 I'll talk about some of the pictures. 1075 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:20.960 He put some of those pictures up. 1076 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:25.159 Oh, are we done with thirty Truck or no? 1077 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.880 Uh no, there's a couple of pictures at thirty up there. 1078 00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.039 That was when I got my front piece for thirty 1079 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.519 got off probation. That was Jack McDonald. He uh he 1080 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.159 was one of my lieutenants. Like I said, he was 1081 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.639 a fireman in twenty eight where he got the Gordon 1082 00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:39.880 Bennett for a life saving rope. 1083 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:40.920 Wow. 1084 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:42.760 So there were a lot of life saving ropes in 1085 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:43.760 Harlem and they still are. 1086 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.599 I think I love that shirt this. 1087 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.360 Past metal day, uh the polo two guys from twenty 1088 00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:54.840 eight Truck got a medal, a guy from Squad forty one. Yeah, 1089 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.480 there's life saving ropes done on a regular basis in 1090 00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.320 the sixteenth to time. I think just because of the 1091 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.239 types of buildings and it's just just the way it 1092 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:02.599 worked out. 1093 00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:05.800 Every year there was always one. And I understand the 1094 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.800 same thing, like how has that happened? Crazy buildings? But again, 1095 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.199 we don't have really enclosed chafts in a lot of 1096 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:14.639 areas in the city, you know what I mean? Like 1097 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.960 that's like you said, that's a perfect scenario that people 1098 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.599 can't go anywhere. You can't get a lot of there, 1099 00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.079 you can't get the aerial there. 1100 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.880 There's a photo of a group of us on a 1101 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.320 rooftop there. 1102 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.320 If you can find that guns. 1103 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.800 Uh did I show to you before? 1104 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.559 I don't think you brought it up yet? Do it? 1105 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:33.159 Do we? 1106 00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:34.639 When we went over it, you didn't see it right? 1107 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.760 No, earlier I saw it, but you haven't shown it yet. 1108 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:38.599 Since we're on. 1109 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:44.840 The rooftop. Rooftop the whole company standing up on the 1110 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.599 roof proby picture because. 1111 00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.400 You can find it, don't working. I mean, I'm gonna 1112 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:55.639 go and look at it. I find it. No, you 1113 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:56.159 did it. 1114 00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.119 You can't give me the pressure some little bit. 1115 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.119 So that's me on the left. 1116 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.119 Then the next guy is Bruce Garcia. 1117 00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:07.719 Bruce Garcia did a life saving rope in probably ninety 1118 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:09.039 one or ninety two. 1119 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.440 I had just got into the firehouse. He went to 1120 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:12.280 the rear of the building. 1121 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.840 He sees a guy hanging out the window on the 1122 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:18.119 top floor, and the buildings don't connect in the rear, 1123 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.639 so he goes to the front and I guess because 1124 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.519 it was nighttime and because of the smoke condition, he 1125 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.079 didn't see there was a fence in between the two roofs. 1126 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:26.679 There was no way for him to get from one 1127 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.199 roof to the other for the exposure. So he put 1128 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.599 his fingers in the chain link fence and swung his 1129 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:35.920 body six stories above the street around that fence to 1130 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.360 get over to the other roof with a life saving 1131 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.079 rope across his shoulder. Then he ran to the back, 1132 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.679 tied off to a substantial object, and then the second 1133 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:48.239 du roof went up on the area, lowered him and 1134 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:51.320 he did a roof rope rescue. Wow. Yeah, amazing. 1135 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.800 His son was asking Eve how he did it. Did 1136 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.000 you ask him how he gets his balls in his pants? 1137 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.960 A lot of big one at a time, I don't know. 1138 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:06.800 Yeah, a lot of courage. His son went to seventy 1139 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.880 one engine. That's Bruce Garcia, he's deceased. Then the next 1140 00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.000 guy is John Barry. I mentioned him. John was a 1141 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:17.039 great fireman. He was always at the right place at 1142 00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:21.000 the right time. The center guy, that was John Murray. 1143 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.719 He was the senior man when I got to the firehouse. 1144 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.880 He probably had twenty five or so years and you 1145 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:32.199 could see he doesn't even have a coat. And the 1146 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.519 two guys to my left there, they don't even have 1147 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.719 rubber boots on, so a lot of guys wore combat 1148 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.440 boots back then. It was much quicker. If you had 1149 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.519 the ov or the roof, you could get up an 1150 00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.920 aerial quicker. You could get into a window quick, you 1151 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.440 could go up a fire escape. And guys didn't wear 1152 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:50.480 the rubber boots unless they were on the inside. The 1153 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.239 boss there is Gary Wright. I mentioned him earlier. He 1154 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.440 was a lieutenant and thirty, but he was a fireman 1155 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.159 in twenty eight so he knew the buildings, he knew 1156 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.400 the area, he knew the guys. He was a great, 1157 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.960 great fire officer. I think when he was a fireman 1158 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.280 they called him the squirrel because he could climb anything. 1159 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:07.519 I like it. 1160 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:09.840 And then Craig three is the last one. 1161 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.039 He's the one that ended up in Rescue three and 1162 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.599 we came about four weeks apart. 1163 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:16.880 That was one of our first multiples. 1164 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:18.960 Yeah, that's what we named from the multiple. 1165 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:20.400 Yeah, that was a good job. 1166 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.559 I got one more Proby pick of you. 1167 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.079 So this is I was a drill instructor at Proby School. 1168 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.880 The Fight Department has hundreds of guys that served in 1169 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.079 the Marine Corps. We had a Marine Corps Association and 1170 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.159 we get together every year. The Marine Corps birthday is 1171 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.760 the tenth of November and we celebrate it as if 1172 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.000 it's our own. And I got to meet a lot 1173 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.679 of great guys on the job through the Marine Corps 1174 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.159 session that I never would have met otherwise. Joe backert 1175 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.800 two thirty six. And the guy that got me into 1176 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.199 the drill instructor program was a guy named Joe Higgins 1177 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.360 from one to eleven. I think you heard of him. Yeah, 1178 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.119 So Joe and Bobby were a drill instructor and they 1179 00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.280 asked me to come out and we ran the place 1180 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.400 like a bunch of marines and that was That was 1181 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.480 a fun experience. I did that for like two years. 1182 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.400 Make any of the kids ship their pants, No, we 1183 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.039 broke their balls, but we always try to. 1184 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:15.800 Teach them a lesson. 1185 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:18.519 You look like Joe Hagen's with the hacktab. 1186 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.639 Yeah, well he did, Haigin said when he was on 1187 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.440 the show. He's still one of my favorite shows actually, 1188 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:29.280 but he said how he loved Like again, you never know, 1189 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.400 you think it's gonna it's not for me, right whatever, 1190 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:34.960 you know, and it all of a sudden you come 1191 00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:36.880 out of this thing two years later, and it's like, 1192 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.320 you know, a little in a thirty year Korea or whatever. Right, 1193 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:42.039 all of a sudden, there's this little thing that you 1194 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:43.800 could look back on and you say, yourself, man, that 1195 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.599 was a pretty good time. Like I'm glad I did that. 1196 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.079 You know, whatever it is, you know what I mean. 1197 00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.519 You get a little gig here or there, and you think, ah, man, 1198 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.159 I'm gonna be out of going the fires and ship, 1199 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:53.320 you know, But it works out good. 1200 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:54.920 Yeah, I had a lot of fun. I was there 1201 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.960 twelve years, and I was single the whole time. 1202 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:06.400 He had some panties going at him, no doubt. 1203 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:15.760 So fast forward to two thousand and one. I'm making 1204 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.000 a grab at a window and I'm holding onto the 1205 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:20.880 child guard. I'm at the tip of the portable. I'm 1206 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:21.719 in the third floor. 1207 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:23.880 I'm opening the window the child guard, let's go. 1208 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.039 I fall off the ladder. So I broke two bones 1209 00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.079 in my leg. I tore a couple of ligaments. I 1210 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.599 tore my hamstring, I tore my calf, I broke three ribs. 1211 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.360 Long story short. I was at a commission out of 1212 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:38.519 work for a year, like duty medically for a year, 1213 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.360 and then I signed up to drive the one to 1214 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:46.159 six battalion for a year. And one of my best friends, 1215 00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:49.239 Paul Conrad, he's a deputy chief. Now. We grew up together. 1216 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.079 We've known each other since we're eight years old. We 1217 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.480 got on a fire department. There's Paul there with my 1218 00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:57.719 beautiful wife in the center. Paul's a deputy chief. Now. 1219 00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.480 Paul says to me, what are you doing every day? 1220 00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:02.559 I said, I'm going to physical therapy. 1221 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.199 I'm trying to fix my leg, and I'm trying to. 1222 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:04.960 Get back to work. 1223 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.239 He goes, well, why don't you come to study. 1224 00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:07.599 Group with us. 1225 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:08.960 We meet once a week. 1226 00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:11.679 You know, we drink some beers, we'll throw some questions 1227 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.440 each other, and we'll study. I said, all right, get 1228 00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:17.199 me out of the house. So thanks to Paul and 1229 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.440 the study group, we we persevered and I got promoted 1230 00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:26.079 to lieutenant. Look at that, Yeah, very fortunate. 1231 00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:27.840 So yeah, you wind up on your feet. 1232 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:29.840 Yeah, my feet hurt from landing on him. 1233 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:36.280 So I go down to Midtown and Tom Jensen is 1234 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:37.639 the third division commander. 1235 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.519 So I call him up and I go to visit him. 1236 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:41.880 I say, Chief, you know, I put on my class 1237 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.960 as go to tell him who I am, and then 1238 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.719 I'm signed to his division. He goes, I know who 1239 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.000 you are. He was a fireman in thirty truck. Now 1240 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:51.440 he's the third division commander. 1241 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:56.920 How so you know if you came from thirty and 1242 00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:58.960 now you know you got a guy from thirty bouncing 1243 00:57:58.960 --> 00:57:59.920 around like what else. 1244 00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.920 Could Yes, that's how it works. That's how it works, 1245 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:04.840 you know. I mean he didn't give me a list number, 1246 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.719 but he took care of me. So I was working 1247 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.440 in a fifty four engine. I think I was doing 1248 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:11.400 a vacation and a guy by the name of Bill 1249 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.880 Carlson was in for truck. You may have heard of him. No, good, 1250 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.519 good dude, he says to me. Do you like it here? 1251 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.559 I said, I love it here. I didn't think I 1252 00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.760 was going to between getting promoted to lieutenant and going 1253 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.639 to midtown Manhattan from the ghetto. I was like a 1254 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.800 fish out of water, and I didn't think I was 1255 00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:29.800 gonna like it. But I loved it. And he said, well, 1256 00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.639 if you want, I could speak to the battalion and 1257 00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.719 you know, maybe we can get you to stay here. 1258 00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.719 I said, well, I would love that. So the battalion 1259 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.159 commander at the time was Charlie Williams. 1260 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.480 He was a captain of two eighty three and he 1261 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.239 worked in hallm back in the day, worked in the 1262 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.000 rescue and he was friends with Patty Brown. Patty Brown 1263 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:47.760 was a captain of sixty nine engine when I was 1264 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.440 a proby, So you know, I did the right thing 1265 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.360 and he endorsed me. Charlie Williams endorsed me, and I 1266 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:55.519 got the spot in four truck. 1267 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:57.719 What is it like working in that firehouse? 1268 00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:57.920 Man? 1269 00:58:58.800 --> 00:58:59.360 Nuts man? 1270 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.000 That's nuts Well, first of all, it's two thousand and three, 1271 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.079 so it's very fresh after nine to eleven, and that 1272 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:11.599 firehouse unfortunately lost fifteen guys. Wow. So that front door 1273 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.320 was like incredible a museum. I mean, first of all, 1274 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.280 it's a block from Times Square. You got all the hotels, 1275 00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.800 all the theaters, you got all these buildings with tons 1276 00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:22.559 of people in them. 1277 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:26.920 It was like married. I was not married yet. 1278 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.760 By the way, I don't want to get off track, 1279 00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.280 but you're god to go back to the picture of 1280 00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:39.199 him and his old lady. 1281 00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:40.880 You've done good, bro. You're a part of that I 1282 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:42.400 am married up club. Check it out. 1283 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.280 Yeah, that's my second wife. 1284 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.559 Good for you. That's all right, buddy. I'm on my 1285 00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:52.159 third all right, good for. 1286 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:56.000 You, good for you. You know shit. Yeah. 1287 00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:57.960 So I did five years in four truck and we 1288 00:59:58.039 --> 00:59:59.960 had a great time there. We went to Good five 1289 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:02.440 and we went to a lot of weird ship. We 1290 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.440 went to the subways, a lot of weird ship. I 1291 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.760 had the Cory Little plane crash. He crashed into MD 1292 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.519 I was working for that. We had cruise ships that crash. 1293 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.679 I had a submarine crash next to the Intrepid that 1294 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.239 was tied untied off the dock and it was slamming 1295 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:22.960 into other boats. We went to that. We had a 1296 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.760 helicopter crash in the Hudson River. That was a funny story. 1297 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:30.199 We get to the river and the helicopters in the 1298 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.239 water and we're hearing all this radio chatter, and a 1299 01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:36.599 boat pulls up to the pier and on the loudspeakers, 1300 01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:39.159 everybody get off. So you know the beast. You ever 1301 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.360 see the beast on the West side of Manhattan. It's 1302 01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.880 like a tourist boar. It's a speedboat. So the guy 1303 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.960 throws everybody off the boat and he yells fire department, 1304 01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.079 get on the boat. We didn't have a boat, so 1305 01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.360 let's get on the Beast. So we get on the beast. 1306 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.159 We got like three companies and a battalion chief on 1307 01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:56.639 the beast. It turns out the guy's a fireman in 1308 01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.280 Jersey and he does this as a sidekick. So he 1309 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.199 takes us to the helicopter and the chief is calling 1310 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.599 the shore and we didn't have our call signs or whatever, 1311 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.480 so he was just saying, uh uh Division three to 1312 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.239 the beast. That was our call sign, the Beast, and 1313 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:17.400 there it is best. 1314 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:19.719 Yeah. 1315 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.159 They threw everybody off the boat all the tours, and 1316 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.800 they filled it up with fire companies and and guys. 1317 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:25.719 From rescue one, I guess. 1318 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.199 And we went out there and and we saved eight 1319 01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:29.400 people from the helicopter. 1320 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:30.920 Every single one of them survived. 1321 01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:31.559 Wow. 1322 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:34.400 Yeah, a shameless plug right there for this guy. 1323 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:36.920 Yeah, the beast gets a nice uh very little. 1324 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:38.760 That's awesome. 1325 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.159 So he was like a DJ on the sign and 1326 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.000 he was a fireman I think in Newark or some shit. 1327 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:44.559 That was great. 1328 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:44.840 Yeah. 1329 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:45.480 Yeah. 1330 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.039 So we saw a lot of crazy stuff, helicopters and 1331 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:51.719 planes and subways, high rises and then if we were lucky, 1332 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.320 we're ninth and tenth Avenue. We had five story tenements, 1333 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:56.920 bread and butter Ah, how did you. 1334 01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:57.719 Deal with the traffic. 1335 01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:01.960 You can't let it bother you because it will It'll 1336 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:07.480 drive you crazy. I know I would. Yeah during the holidays, 1337 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.840 forget dude, if I want to. 1338 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:10.559 When I was at sixteen truck, if you went on 1339 01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:12.960 a run, yeah, even if it was a full slot, 1340 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:13.719 it would take an. 1341 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:14.960 Hour to get back to the funny house. 1342 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.519 Correct, all these people coming to look at a stupid 1343 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:18.199 Christmas tree? 1344 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:18.599 Yeah? 1345 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.199 Yeah, so that's that's all you had. You had to 1346 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.639 make a mental like note to yourself like. 1347 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.719 Yeah, I mean that are You're gonna go crazy? 1348 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:29.119 Well, there was a lot to look at. 1349 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:31.639 There were some sites. 1350 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:38.000 Yeah, yeah, here, how about the triple sub cellar you 1351 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:38.280 like that? 1352 01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:38.679 Oh? 1353 01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.239 Yeah, those were fun. These were fun. It was fun 1354 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.960 swapping bottles while you were underground. Yeah, fun, good stuff. 1355 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:48.360 Yeah, I don't remember reading that in the riggs. 1356 01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:52.199 Yeah that you have a lot of junior guys, did 1357 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:53.079 you learn? 1358 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:53.559 Yeah? 1359 01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.280 It was great. I got to train and it was 1360 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.519 unique to be in that position. I was always a 1361 01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.639 young guy in the job, and I was in a 1362 01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:02.480 firehouse with a lot of senior guys, and then to 1363 01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.280 switch roles like that, and now to be training guys. 1364 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.039 It was great. And and some of those guys are 1365 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:09.360 captains and chiefs. 1366 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.519 H the guys that were under me, which it feels good. 1367 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:17.840 I'd like the transitions being a boss. 1368 01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:17.199 I did not. 1369 01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:19.360 I did not like that transition. 1370 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:22.960 That's like the spotlight there man. 1371 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:27.480 Yeah, And the phone rang off the hook truck officer department, 1372 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.079 phone truck officer, DEPARTMA phone truck off all the time. 1373 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:33.519 And I would get questions that I just you know, 1374 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:36.119 I would shake my head and scratch my head, like, uh, 1375 01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.880 they're at a construction site on tenth Avenue, and uh, 1376 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.280 they want to move the hydrant? 1377 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:41.440 What do I gotta do? 1378 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:42.679 What? 1379 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:44.679 Say? 1380 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:44.920 What? 1381 01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:51.039 Yeah? You want to I don't have Yeah, there's a 1382 01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:56.639 couple of four truck pictures there. 1383 01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:56.840 To get to that. 1384 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.559 Dude getting ready. I would to move a hydrant over on. 1385 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.320 Sorry, my boy, Davy Turner, Oh yes, I did, my guy. 1386 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:14.280 Yeah. 1387 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.800 This must have been a crazy time of year. Yeah. 1388 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.599 So we had a stuck elevator and we got some 1389 01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:21.760 guy named Ryan out of the elevator. 1390 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.840 Ah, him in the center. 1391 01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.000 He's a little guy, right, He's a little guy. 1392 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.719 Yeah, a little guy with a lot of money. 1393 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.599 He's got some money. He has a handle that it 1394 01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:33.480 puts his gloves on and takes them off for him. 1395 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.039 He doesn't even put gloves where do you? 1396 01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:38.440 Yeah, you know the ship in the corner and that's 1397 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.400 that that elevator. 1398 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:45.800 Huh. Yeah, the elevators of Midtown were sucked up. They worked, 1399 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.039 they didn't smell like piss, and someone had music in them. 1400 01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:55.079 That was in New Year's Eve. There's a picture there 1401 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:56.239 with the Lombardi trophy. 1402 01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.000 Yeah. 1403 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.679 So there's a guy from forty truck and he's working 1404 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:07.840 part time as a security guard for ESPN in Times Square. 1405 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:10.360 So he comes to the firehouse and he's got the 1406 01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:12.599 Lombardi trophy and he goes, you guys want to take 1407 01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:13.599 pictures with the trophy. 1408 01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:14.880 So the real trophy. 1409 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.840 This is the real deal, the real trophy. 1410 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.400 He's going to a party at ESPN and he's got 1411 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:21.199 to deliver the trophy. 1412 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:22.599 He works security for ESPN. 1413 01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.360 So we all take photographs with the trophy. I got 1414 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.840 a great shot there. Then he takes out the special 1415 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:31.280 cloth to clean it off. He got all our fingerprints off, 1416 01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.000 and then he puts it in this big patted box 1417 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.639 and he locks it with like three locks and he 1418 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.360 says lou Can, I, can you do me a favor? 1419 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.480 I go, what's that? He goes, Can I leave the 1420 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:42.599 box in the firehouse? 1421 01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:45.400 I work in forty truck and I'm gonna go out 1422 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:47.239 for a little while, but then I'm gonna. 1423 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.440 Come back and get the box. I said, okay, no problem. 1424 01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.920 He leaves me. He leaves the Lombardi trophy in the 1425 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.199 firehouse locked up on the apperass for and he leaves. 1426 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.599 He comes back. It's about four o'clock in the morning. 1427 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:01.719 We come back from a run and he's banging on 1428 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:02.760 the firehouse front door. 1429 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:03.320 He can't get in. 1430 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.079 He doesn't have a key, he doesn't know the combo, 1431 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:09.400 he's legless, and he goes, I'm gonna lose my job. 1432 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.519 What happened? He goes, I lost the key for the trophy? 1433 01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:18.320 Unbelieva, Hello, mister George. 1434 01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:22.159 How might you pay for the for the new guy? 1435 01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:23.800 Twenty bucks? 1436 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:24.639 No, too much? 1437 01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:25.239 Too much? 1438 01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:27.800 Lost the key for the Lombardi trophy, which is sitting 1439 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:29.400 in the firehouse. I said, well, you know, do me 1440 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.800 a favorite, get that trophy and get the fuck out of. 1441 01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.960 Here before somebody gets in trouble, before I get blamed. 1442 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.599 Yeah, shit, all right, We have one more we get 1443 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.000 marked big ah. 1444 01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.960 Yeah, that's uh Saint Patrick's Cathedral. On one of the 1445 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.159 anniversaries of nine to eleven, we always go to mass 1446 01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.400 at Saint Pat's and Cardinal Dolon invited us up on 1447 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:53.920 the altar for a photo. I thought that was a 1448 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.440 great shot. A big guy all the way in the back. Bro. 1449 01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:02.719 Yeah size, there's there's another guy right next to him. 1450 01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:07.159 I think that guy is a fireman out in Limbrook Maguire. 1451 01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:08.480 That's Ray Maguire. 1452 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:14.639 I think that's long ago. Was that guy gets in every. 1453 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:16.000 Everywhere on the other side. 1454 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.159 It's unbelievable that you knew who that was. His brother, 1455 01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.679 him and his brother like, well, it looks like Ray 1456 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:24.239 because it is. 1457 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:26.039 That's a huge bitch. 1458 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.079 God, you're right tonight, tonight. 1459 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.800 That's a big bitchny. 1460 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:38.199 Sorry, sorry, right, we love you, love you. Right. 1461 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.920 So did you actually ever stop uh studying or you 1462 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:43.039 kept studying the whole time? 1463 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.280 I was very fortunate. 1464 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:46.519 I was a lieutenant for two years and they gave 1465 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.440 a captain's test, so we never stopped studying. And then 1466 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:59.079 uh I passed the captain's test with the steam pipe explosion. 1467 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:00.440 Yeah, so that that was the. 1468 01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:07.079 See that must have been seven. That was uh Park 1469 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:11.840 Avenue and forty second Street. So we come down seventh Amn, 1470 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:13.960 and we make the left on forty second Street. Rescue 1471 01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.199 one is in front of us, and as we're going 1472 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:20.079 towards the site, all you see is thousands. 1473 01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:20.960 Of people running towards us. 1474 01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:26.319 Now remember this is post nine to eleven. Yeah, and 1475 01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:27.760 all these people are running towards us. 1476 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:29.880 We go, what the hell? And then in the middle 1477 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:30.760 of the street you. 1478 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.520 See thousands of high heeled shoes. The women were just 1479 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.079 kicking their shoes off and running for their lives. Wow. 1480 01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:38.199 And then when we got to the site, there was 1481 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:40.800 a tow truck in the hole and the guys are 1482 01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.079 just coming out of steam and bricks raining down on 1483 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:48.000 top of the rig. And there was a city bush 1484 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.319 on Lexington Avenue. So we went up to the bus 1485 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:53.239 and the chief We couldn't talk to the chief on 1486 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:55.600 the handy talking. There was no radio communication because this 1487 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.279 thing was roaring like a jet engine. And the chiefs 1488 01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.479 just do me a favor and evacuate that bus. And 1489 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.840 we opened up the bus and there was like twenty 1490 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.640 or thirty people just frozen in fear on the bus. Wow. 1491 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.359 And we were standing in like two and a half 1492 01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.840 feet of water, which must have been two hundred degrees. 1493 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.319 So we had to carry all the people off the 1494 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.760 bus to dry land on forty second Street. 1495 01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:19.720 What happened to tow Trusty. 1496 01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.199 I think the tow truck driver was killed. And the 1497 01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.600 woman he was with that was in the truck, I 1498 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.800 think she she got like severe burns. She went to 1499 01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:32.520 the burn center. Yeah, it was it was a mess. Yeah. Yeah, 1500 01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.319 that was nuts. And it's not something that you trained for. 1501 01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:37.439 It's not something you ever expect to see. 1502 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.840 Uh, it's Manhattan odd ball. 1503 01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:41.039 Manhattan odd ball. 1504 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:42.479 There's so many of them happened. 1505 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:44.039 If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. 1506 01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:45.359 It's gonna happen in Manhattan. 1507 01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:45.640 Yeah. 1508 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.720 A lot of chiefs that go up the chain make 1509 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.760 sure that they work a stint in the ninth Battalion 1510 01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:53.760 or the third Division. 1511 01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:54.680 Uh. 1512 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:56.520 My captain when I was in four truck was a 1513 01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.520 guy by the name of Mike Myers. You might have 1514 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.479 heard of Mikey, Yeah, of course. 1515 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:00.800 Yeah. 1516 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:04.239 So he started out one seventy five, he went to 1517 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:08.239 rescue four and now he's the chief of training. Yep. 1518 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:10.279 So he was a captain when I was there, and 1519 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.039 then he went to the ninth Battalion, or I should 1520 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:14.000 say he stayed in the night Battalion. Then he went 1521 01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:19.119 to the third Division and went up the chain quite rapidly, 1522 01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:23.720 And that was the thing to do. I had division commanders. 1523 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.439 I mentioned Tom Jensen, before, we had Tom mccavanaugh, we 1524 01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:28.399 had John Sudnick. 1525 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:29.840 So it was no. 1526 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.720 Accident that these guys became three and four star chiefs. 1527 01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:34.199 And they worked in Midtown. 1528 01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:36.960 I think they were all told, like, you know, if 1529 01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.439 you're a rising star, you got to work there. 1530 01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:43.840 Yeah, so you get you study, you take the captains 1531 01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:45.000 tests were on that list. 1532 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:48.760 That was a tough test. That was a test that 1533 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:52.359 only like two hundred guys passed. Really, Yeah, they made 1534 01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.680 that test really difficult, and I was right in the 1535 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:56.520 middle of the pack. I think I was probably like 1536 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.920 one hundred and ten, maybe somewhere around here. 1537 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.640 You find you know, you find your where you should 1538 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:05.079 be as an officer. And then then yeah, promoting captain right, And. 1539 01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:08.159 I felt like, you know, becoming a captain is no 1540 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.319 different than being a lieutenant as far as being on 1541 01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:13.399 the rig, your responsibilities are a little different, but as 1542 01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.359 far as being a company officer and being on the apparatus, 1543 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:17.159 there's no difference. 1544 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.399 I'm gonna bet that this guy gets a good spot 1545 01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:23.319 as account. I'm gonna go on a limb here. So 1546 01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:24.920 once again I got lucky. 1547 01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:29.319 And one of the guys in the sixteenth Battalion, the 1548 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:33.319 battalion commander, Frank Donnelly, I just happened to drive when 1549 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:37.319 I was a fireman driving the sixteenth Battalion, oh five 1550 01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:43.479 years prior. H He calls me up and election He's like, Steve, Yeah, 1551 01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:47.960 he says, listen, Uh, twenty three truck is going to 1552 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:51.079 open up. The guy scored number one on the chief's list, 1553 01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:54.800 Jimmy Brosie. He's now the head of the union, the 1554 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.239 president of the UFOA, Deputy chief Jim Brosie. He's getting 1555 01:11:58.239 --> 01:11:59.840 promoted to the battalion chief and I want to put 1556 01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:00.680 you in twenty three. 1557 01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:03.159 So I said, sure, you want my left arm. 1558 01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:05.079 I'm all right, arm, what do I gotta give you? 1559 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:07.680 And he says, did you just sit tight? And when 1560 01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:10.359 he gets promoted, I'm putting you in twenty three? I said, 1561 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:13.079 thank you, sir, And I just waited. I bounced for 1562 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:16.159 about two years, and uh, well you did bounce that long. 1563 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.560 I did. There were a lot of captains in the 1564 01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:21.399 division when I got promoted. And you know, the nice 1565 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.359 thing was I worked a lot of city wide, so 1566 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.520 I had not worked in other borrows previously. So I 1567 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.079 started off in Harlem. I go to Midtown and now 1568 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.800 I'm back in the South Bronx and Harlem. And when 1569 01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:35.600 i'm surplus, this senting me all over the city. I'm 1570 01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.239 working in one seventy five, I'm working in two thirty six. 1571 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.439 I'm working in places I never dreamed of working in before. 1572 01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:45.359 I've heard of them. I knew guys at worked there, 1573 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:47.800 and it was a great experience to go see these 1574 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.680 other companies and work in Brooklyn and work in Queens. 1575 01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.880 I worked a couple of tours in Staten Island and 1576 01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:54.960 it was a great experience. I got to see guys 1577 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.760 that I knew from previous years. I played on the 1578 01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.000 football team for two years, so I would run into 1579 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.039 the guys that were on a football team, guys from 1580 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:03.199 the Marine Corps Association. 1581 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:06.960 It was great, cool, a lot with Big Philly Tofano. 1582 01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:09.640 I worked with Phil. I played with Phil. 1583 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:13.880 Also, Yeah, great guy man, great guy you play at football. 1584 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:15.840 I was a wide receiver and I kicked. 1585 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:18.279 Yeah. 1586 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:20.399 I gat you played in high school too. I was 1587 01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:21.159 gonna ask you before that. 1588 01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:22.920 Yeah, I played in high school and I played one 1589 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:24.720 year in college. It was Division three. 1590 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.159 Sot an sure. 1591 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:30.479 Yeah, wood he was a big dude. 1592 01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:30.680 Man. 1593 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.359 Yeah. I had a pair of gloves when I played 1594 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:35.520 high school football. I was a ligneman and I had 1595 01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:38.239 lineman gloves. They were padded and they were really good gloves. 1596 01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:39.880 And when I came to the fire department team, I 1597 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:42.159 still had them. I gave them to Woody and he 1598 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.399 wore those gloves. He goes, man, these are good gloves. Yeah, 1599 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.560 they're expensive gloves, and he he wore and he loved them. 1600 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:49.800 And I loved Woody. He was a great guy. Everybody 1601 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:50.760 knew him, loved him. 1602 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.640 Two guys who went to Too Young Bro both of 1603 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:55.399 them Philly, Philly and Woody. 1604 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.880 Yeah. And I was good friends with Tommy Cullen. He 1605 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.640 was in in place I think to ninety. 1606 01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:04.279 I don't know. 1607 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:05.439 I think it's on Long Island. 1608 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.119 Heard you know, I actually heard that the busiest fly 1609 01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:13.319 company in the world, in. 1610 01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:14.399 The world, in the world. 1611 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:16.199 Yeah, I just read that somewhere. 1612 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:20.119 He transfers from ninety to Squad forty one. 1613 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:22.720 Tommy call it and I said. 1614 01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:23.680 To him, I go, what the hell are you going 1615 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:26.920 to squad forty one for nobody likes them? That's okay. 1616 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:27.720 I'm from two ninety. 1617 01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:32.239 I've been I've been hated my career. 1618 01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:39.000 Tommy Collin was killed on the eleventh, along with another 1619 01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:41.760 two dozen guys from the football team. 1620 01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:42.720 That sucks. 1621 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.800 Yeah, that was a guy that was uh Sterling right, 1622 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:48.840 Sterling was if. 1623 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:54.920 I remember Bronco, Broy Fletcher, Patty Lions. 1624 01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:57.760 Oh, Patty Lyons, so many names. Okay, he was a 1625 01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:58.159 good guy. 1626 01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.279 Sometimes when I look at the the photograph of the 1627 01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:04.560 three forty three, a guy's picture, and I go, oh, yeah, 1628 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:08.039 I forgot he died too, It's just it's overwhelming. It's 1629 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:09.640 it's beyond the comprehension. 1630 01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:11.279 It really is. 1631 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.000 You get up to the truck over there. Finally, when 1632 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:15.640 do you go there? 1633 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:19.159 Two years? So two years so I got promoted in 1634 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:22.079 eight and then twenty ten, I get assigned to a 1635 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:23.159 lot of twenty three. 1636 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.960 And I followed there. I got all that thought, Yeah, 1637 01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.199 did you work in thirty truck? 1638 01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:29.760 Yeah? 1639 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:32.520 When I was covering Nicol what to do? Then go 1640 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:32.840 over there. 1641 01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:34.600 I told him to. 1642 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:37.239 Slow down, turn on the blue lights in the rear. 1643 01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:40.439 What lights are a police cause. 1644 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.880 That sounds like bro, you do that perfect? 1645 01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:51.159 Twelve years Yeah, a little working tools, our baby carriages. 1646 01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:52.680 I love it. 1647 01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.840 Yeah, wow, that's great. All right, So you go up 1648 01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.199 to twenty three and uh, you know. 1649 01:15:58.560 --> 01:15:59.880 Something about your dad? What were you saying? 1650 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.399 Oh right, yeah, oh yeah, my father was a lieutenant 1651 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.520 eighty engine So it was a unique experience. I had 1652 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:10.239 worked in the firehouse as a fireman. There's my pops 1653 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:15.479 medal day and eight. Wow, that was the steam pipe 1654 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:17.640 explosion metal that we got, the Al Sasser medal. 1655 01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.079 Oh, I was gonna ask you if you got a medal 1656 01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:21.760 for that? Should look down right here. 1657 01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:22.399 There you go. 1658 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.720 So yeah, so it was a unique experien Pretty sure 1659 01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:27.000 the guy's gonna be leaning over like this. 1660 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:29.239 He's got some medals, you know what I mean, Mexican 1661 01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:30.239 War General. 1662 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.079 The NYPD badge. I think it's gonna up here is. 1663 01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:34.479 Your pop's still around. 1664 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.479 He's still around, and you gotta get him on a 1665 01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:40.920 show eighty two years old. No him, he'll be on 1666 01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:44.560 a show. He'll be talking for four hours, three another 1667 01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:49.880 hour kill us. When he worked They called him Larry 1668 01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:52.800 the Lip because he never shut up. 1669 01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:55.800 Yeah, we'll get him, we'll get. 1670 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:57.520 Him, We'll get him. Yea. 1671 01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.880 He worked in the South Bronx in nineteen six, so 1672 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.079 there's a picture. I put that in because I was 1673 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.680 not on a job. Then this is in the late seventies. 1674 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:09.600 And if you look in the center at the photograph, 1675 01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:13.760 that's the Crossbronx Expressway and this is looking south. 1676 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:16.159 So I guess it's an aerial photograph. 1677 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:17.960 I thought this was from the movie War in the World. 1678 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.359 It does look like it, right right, So in the 1679 01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:25.359 center of the photo where then the Cross Bronx Expressway is, 1680 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.319 that's the firehouse. That's forty six engine and twenty seven truck, 1681 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.239 and it's right next to a police precinct. 1682 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.640 And then from the par you could see it when 1683 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:34.720 you go you can. 1684 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:38.119 Still see it. Yeah, So that's Washington Avenue just to 1685 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:41.119 the left of the firehouse, and then you can see 1686 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:46.399 like a black border there that's Third Avenue and Rescue 1687 01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.880 three incidentally is presently in this photograph as well. They're 1688 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:53.439 just south of forty six and twenty seven, so you 1689 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:54.840 could see how that. 1690 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.439 Place looks like London during World War Two. 1691 01:17:59.039 --> 01:17:59.640 Blitz Creek. 1692 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:01.159 Unbelievable. 1693 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.520 That is that little does that say we are here 1694 01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:04.680 on that little thing, which. 1695 01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:07.199 As you are here, because that is a photograph that's 1696 01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:09.640 in the firehouse. It's hanging up in the firehouse, and 1697 01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:11.199 I took a picture of us. Said, man, I gotta 1698 01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.159 show these guys this photograph. 1699 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:15.039 So I know they were busy in Brooklyn. 1700 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.000 I know there's good fire stories around the city, but 1701 01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:22.359 the South Bronx was in its heyday, was a war zone. Yeah, 1702 01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:22.840 that's crazy. 1703 01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:26.960 A lot of the kids playing in the burnt out 1704 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.079 cars there's no buildings around, or the jumping out of 1705 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:31.439 the second story on a pile of. 1706 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:32.079 Mat I talk. 1707 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:34.039 I talk about when I was a kid, we used 1708 01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:35.840 to go upstate. We used to take the Major dig 1709 01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:39.039 in past Yankee Stadium to get on the GW and 1710 01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:42.159 I remember those buildings that were right there before you 1711 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:44.079 get you know that rep before you get it. It's 1712 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.279 always traffic there, it's always backed up. But I remember 1713 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:48.479 as a kid looking at the back seat, all those 1714 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:51.199 buildings that are on that hill all burnt out. They 1715 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.119 were all burnt and they all had either like the 1716 01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:56.800 the hug window with the plant or the guy in 1717 01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.720 the Shadow or whatever it was, right right, I remember 1718 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:04.039 looking at that Queens we didn't have Yeah, we didn't 1719 01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.079 not like that Bacons at all. 1720 01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:08.119 I mean, look at what the Bronx is burning. 1721 01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:10.920 That was That was a Dinkins thing. Mayor Dinkins had 1722 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:13.319 paintings on the window, someone holding a cup. 1723 01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:15.000 Of tea, drink tea. 1724 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:16.760 Yeah, it was ridiculous. 1725 01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:20.199 So it didn't look like a vacant building. 1726 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.439 Yeah that we've been to fifteen times before. 1727 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:29.079 Absolutely, And now you go past those buildings and nice, 1728 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:30.760 but you know, oh. 1729 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.920 They've been renovated. Yeah. Yeah, they pumped billions of dollars 1730 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:35.000 into those neighborhoods. 1731 01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:36.279 You having some hipster in. 1732 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:40.880 That eventy seven World Series when they had them. 1733 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:41.640 There was a fire in the outfield. 1734 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:44.359 Yeah yeah they were burning, Howard Brown. 1735 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:46.119 Burning the Bronx is burning. 1736 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:48.119 Yeah, you ain't shipping. 1737 01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:49.920 Yeah. 1738 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:51.680 Those were the guys that taught me. 1739 01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:54.159 They they learned in the South Bronx and Harlem back 1740 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:56.000 in the hey day when they were going to fires 1741 01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.720 all the time. And that's uh, those were the guys 1742 01:19:58.720 --> 01:19:59.199 that taught me. 1743 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.000 It must have been going to so many fires, bro, 1744 01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:04.880 like you think every period think they go to work 1745 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:05.760 but those guys. 1746 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.680 You can't fathom the amount of matter work that those guys. 1747 01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:12.039 My father said, nobody did twenty fours. They did straight towards. 1748 01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:12.399 They worked. 1749 01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:17.079 And everybody in the Bronx, every fireman in the Bronx 1750 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:17.880 lived in the Bronx. 1751 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.199 I was gonna say all lived in the Bronx, man. 1752 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:24.760 Yeah, nobody was commuting. You're taking the train to work. 1753 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:26.720 Is your dad originally from the Bronx. 1754 01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:28.239 Yeah, he's from Soundview in the Bronx. 1755 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.680 Yeah, he's a Yankee fan guns. 1756 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.039 Yeah, from the Bronx. 1757 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:33.479 Yeah. 1758 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.279 I mean he used to go to football games and 1759 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.359 baseball games at the Polo Grounds. Oh man, we gotta 1760 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:41.399 get this on, bro. Now, it's projects. 1761 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.279 We gotta get it is it is? Yeah, we gotta 1762 01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:47.119 get the lip on. 1763 01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.239 Great, what you could be with him, and you could 1764 01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:53.079 speed him up if he gets hung up. 1765 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:54.840 You know, there's no speeding him up. 1766 01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:58.760 But he had a couple of We've had a couple 1767 01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.800 of eight year old guys and their son as well. 1768 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:04.600 They just sit on the sideline and they say, hey, Pop, 1769 01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:06.399 tell them the story with this. Yeah, like just to 1770 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:10.159 keep them on, you know, on Yeah, because they forget 1771 01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.000 a lot of shit, I forget. 1772 01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:13.199 I forgot shit too. 1773 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:15.199 Yeah eighty two. 1774 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:17.359 You're just talking about what? 1775 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:18.199 Yeah, exactly. 1776 01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.760 Oh I I wanted to ask you before we got 1777 01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.479 too far, but you got when when the Laaney got there, 1778 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:27.680 or you weren't gone by that. 1779 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:29.680 No, I was gone al ready. I got promoted on three. 1780 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:31.600 He must have gotten there right after. 1781 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:34.079 He painted a picture of his first couple of fucking 1782 01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:35.399 months there. He had a hot time. 1783 01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:38.359 Just it sounded pretty similar like. 1784 01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:41.159 It was a tough place. Yeah, yeah, you just remind 1785 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:43.920 me another story. A couple of probes were working in 1786 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.560 in fifty nine and thirty and there's two probies on 1787 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:48.760 the house watch in the middle of the night, there's 1788 01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:50.720 a knock at the door, and fifty nine to thirty 1789 01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:52.760 had a lot of verbal alarms, with a lot of 1790 01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:55.279 fires that were verbals, and you were talking the days 1791 01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.079 before cell phones, so you either use the payphone or 1792 01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.119 people would come to the firehouse. So the knock at 1793 01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:03.319 the door and the lady says, hey, fire, and the 1794 01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.520 building next door is on fire. So the prob says 1795 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:08.439 to the other prob, you want to come with me 1796 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:10.800 and check it out, and he goes okay, So they 1797 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:12.479 walk next door. They go up to the second floor 1798 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:16.520 and sure enough the apartment's ripping. So they come back downstairs. 1799 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.720 Neither one of them brought a key. So now they're 1800 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:24.079 standing outside the firehouse knocking on the door. There's a fire. 1801 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.880 Oh man, can you imagine? I had that happened to 1802 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:30.960 me as a proby. 1803 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:33.600 Somebody came knocking on the door and they said, the 1804 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:36.159 fire in the Chinese place. So I gotta go to 1805 01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:37.800 out of the proby. I was sitting on the watch 1806 01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:39.640 with the guy. He gives me radio. He goes going 1807 01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:41.399 on around the corner. It's the middle of the daytime. 1808 01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.680 See what's going on. I turned the corner. It's blowing 1809 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.720 out like fucking three windows on the top of the Chinese. 1810 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.399 I was like a paddic to run back to the far. 1811 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:51.399 I didn't even guve the radio. 1812 01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:52.039 I ran back. 1813 01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:55.039 Awesome things. What not to do? 1814 01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:00.399 Right? Patty Lee is in the chat. That's all the 1815 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.399 tenant He wrote little Why didn't you walk past Whitecoff 1816 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:05.800 Avenue when you were a kid in uh in Queens? 1817 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:09.199 So Whitecoff Avenue like that was like ridge with and 1818 01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:11.640 that went like from the good area. 1819 01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:14.239 Nick Obacca, you were going downhill if. 1820 01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:17.239 You went past Whiteclough, it was like falling off a cliff, man, 1821 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:18.760 it was just like right there. And then you know 1822 01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.159 one twenty four was on Saint Nick over there and 1823 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:22.239 talker truck. 1824 01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.560 So, dude, I'm there in the seventies there. 1825 01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:26.760 We'll never forget one time of My father owned the 1826 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.199 camera store Nickoboaca Avenue in that area down there, so 1827 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:32.560 I work with him in the summertime. You drive up past, 1828 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:36.039 he takes me down. Wilson stops the car and he says, 1829 01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:38.279 I want to let you know this is white. Dad 1830 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:41.119 works three jobs to keep you out of the ship. 1831 01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:44.000 And I used that. 1832 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:44.359 On my. 1833 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.560 Did you ever see the picture If you ever see 1834 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:50.359 a picture from Nickobaca Avenue where one twenty four is 1835 01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:53.760 parked and there's like ten factories on fire and everything. 1836 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.199 His father pictures from the camera store, walked out with 1837 01:23:58.239 --> 01:23:59.640 a one ten camera to some of. 1838 01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:01.640 The best far is that tanker truck one? 1839 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:02.960 Yeah? 1840 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:03.680 Yeah that was Billy. 1841 01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:04.960 Carlson's father was a captain. 1842 01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:10.000 Yeah, yeah, all this Carlson Carlson, you heard him. He'll 1843 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:11.720 see him on the boat trip. He always comes. 1844 01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:12.319 That fuck. 1845 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:19.560 Dude again, you talk about Keith, it's he's like Billy's 1846 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:22.479 kind of close. Right, Yeah, he's yahout. 1847 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:24.079 You would say, we're. 1848 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.399 Got a little buffed Tom and Keith a little. 1849 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.680 Yeahs the buff he's just he just got he's. 1850 01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:35.159 A little buffy. 1851 01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:36.479 But but Billy, he's buffy. 1852 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:38.520 Yeah, yeah, he loves all. 1853 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:42.720 Was a member of the New Jersey Metro Fire Photographers Association. 1854 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:44.560 He used to bring a bustload of the Buffs to 1855 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:50.680 the firehouse every year. Oh yeah, yeah, and then he 1856 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:52.680 would bring him. He would bring him to rescue three. 1857 01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:55.239 He'd bring him to the firehouses and hopefully they catch 1858 01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:57.880 a job while they were driving around the city. Ah, 1859 01:24:58.119 --> 01:24:58.560 look at that. 1860 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:00.000 Well all right, just went down and bring it. 1861 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:04.479 Oh no, little Birdie Turpin now like nugget, little nugget, 1862 01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:05.399 a little nugget. 1863 01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:09.439 Yes, Jose, there wasn't v im on Nikoboker Avenue. 1864 01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:11.960 Yes, I don't remember that. 1865 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:13.880 That was the Yeah, I think it's still left. 1866 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:15.439 That was bred, white and Blue. Right, they had the 1867 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:16.520 stars and ship all over. 1868 01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:20.720 Yeah. Yeah, man, all right, all right, where are we 1869 01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:21.119 back at? 1870 01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:22.920 All right, let's look at some more pictures. 1871 01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:24.520 Yeah, come on, Pete, pick them up. 1872 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:29.039 Well he's got he's twenty three now, Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah, 1873 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:29.359 this is. 1874 01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:31.840 A great shot. This is all the captains that won 1875 01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:34.159 six Battalion minus sixty nine Engine. 1876 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.199 So uh rolf, I told you look at a rack 1877 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:39.920 on the guy's chest. Man Mike Gaffney on the left, 1878 01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:43.520 he's still in fifty nine Engine. John Gormley is a 1879 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.000 battalion chief down the seven Battalion. Jimmy Leach in the 1880 01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.039 pipe band, he's retired myself. And then Matt Hagen, he 1881 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:52.079 was the captain of eighty Engine. He just retired recently. Wow. 1882 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.680 Yeah, it was a great shot. Yeah, it was a 1883 01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:56.239 great shot. 1884 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:58.560 I blew it up a little bit, so you have 1885 01:25:58.640 --> 01:25:59.199 another one. 1886 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:05.319 This is after an early morning jab job. The boys 1887 01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:10.960 in twenty three, Uh, absolute professionals. They always did their job, 1888 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.520 they did it well. They made my job so easy 1889 01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.199 as the captain, and I have the utmost respect. My 1890 01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.960 My goal was always to make the guys as good 1891 01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:25.319 or better than I was, and to be half as 1892 01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:27.720 good as the guys that taught me. And these guys 1893 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:30.279 are all better firemen than I ever was. They're great guys. 1894 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.760 They always were in position, they always did the right thing, 1895 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.439 and like I said, they made my job easy. You 1896 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:40.600 love that, absolutely all right, that's a captain's dream right there. 1897 01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:42.720 Like Disney World, you just have to show up. 1898 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:46.960 Was just show for full law. Robi told me that, 1899 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:49.640 Oh yeah, so Rob knows the guy on the far 1900 01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:53.439 right there, that's Scorbo. So Pete Sorbo got on the job. 1901 01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:54.439 I think he got I. 1902 01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:56.439 Know, I know, yeah. 1903 01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:00.439 So Pete got out and O two and I was 1904 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:02.760 still in thirty. So I remember when he got on 1905 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.520 and made remember Probi in twenty three and then in 1906 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:08.439 twenty ten I get promoted the captain, I get assigned 1907 01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:11.399 to twenty three. He's still there, and of course I 1908 01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:15.640 snatched him up to be my chauffeur. He was a chauffeur, extraordinary, 1909 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:19.520 great fireman, funny as hell. We had a million laughs. 1910 01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:22.880 And we had a rule after the meal. First of all, 1911 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:26.520 there was no television in the dining area of eighteen 1912 01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:31.239 twenty three in the no television, and they had a 1913 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.720 rule after the meal, nobody was to get up. 1914 01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:36.640 You had to sit there and you had. 1915 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.680 To converse and talk for at least an hour. And 1916 01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.600 there was a guy that was a lieutenant there, Mike Galgano, 1917 01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:44.439 and he was the. 1918 01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.600 One I know, yes, familiar. He was a fireman in 1919 01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:48.159 one to twenty. 1920 01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:49.680 I know him. 1921 01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:54.000 And then he went to Squad two, Squad one, Yeah right, 1922 01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.239 instead I rescue too. I think he went to Squad one. 1923 01:27:58.439 --> 01:27:59.920 But at any rate, he was a lieutenant in twenty 1924 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.600 three truck and that was his rules. After the meal, 1925 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:04.800 I want you guys to sit here, and we're just 1926 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:05.439 going to converse. 1927 01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:07.199 And we called it the Galgano Hour. 1928 01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:10.520 And uh, guys who put their phones down. There was 1929 01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:13.239 no television, and we would just sit there and we 1930 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:17.079 would laugh and tell stories and joke and it was 1931 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:19.239 just a great They still do it now, they still 1932 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:19.520 do it. 1933 01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.560 It's a great audition, great audition. 1934 01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:25.680 That's been for many, many years. And uh, I think 1935 01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:27.399 it's a it's a great lesson for a lot of 1936 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.319 young guys. You know, put your frigging phone down, have 1937 01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.640 a conversation. You might learn something. 1938 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:40.319 Yeah, you guarantee put the phone down already. 1939 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:40.479 Man. 1940 01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:44.239 And imagine, I mean when I got out, cell phones 1941 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:46.800 would kind of just they weren't as prevalent. 1942 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:47.039 As they are now. 1943 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:50.119 But I see even when I passed the firehouse, guys 1944 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:52.119 outside on the cell phone. 1945 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:55.479 From and I've worked in many firehouses in the sixth 1946 01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:59.800 division that had signs right outside the kitchen no cell phones. 1947 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:01.039 That's awesome. 1948 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.640 Yeah, most firehouses have TVs in the dining air, some 1949 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.640 do not, and a lot of firehouses now have to 1950 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:09.760 sign no phones because people are on their phones the 1951 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:12.239 entire meal, or they're watching TV in tire mill. 1952 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.920 And you can have twelve guys not even fucking looking 1953 01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:15.720 at each other, you know. 1954 01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:17.880 Yeah, I don't get it. I go to a diner 1955 01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:20.279 and I see four young people at a diner and 1956 01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:22.359 they're all eating their food with their phone like that, 1957 01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:24.199 right now, why'd you go out to eat? 1958 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:24.760 Yeah? 1959 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:27.079 Freaking stay home. I don't understand it. 1960 01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:29.880 Yeah, maybe QC Beas Maybe you can put that question 1961 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.279 if QC Bee's becomes a member, you know what I mean. 1962 01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:34.000 Yeah, well we have a new member. 1963 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:35.800 By the way, I'll put it up to Captain Ellie. 1964 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:38.199 Were there for the eighty twenty three second alarm and quarters? 1965 01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:43.279 No that happened, Uh, probably the end of two thousand 1966 01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:46.359 and eight. I got the spot two years later. So 1967 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:48.720 I was the recipient of a brand new firehouse. 1968 01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:52.119 Yeah, yeah, there's Mark. 1969 01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:53.840 Thank you Mark, Mark. 1970 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:55.239 Yes, I want to share that. 1971 01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:58.039 What I'm going to say another name, Ganza you know 1972 01:29:58.039 --> 01:29:59.880 what to do proppuccini. 1973 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:04.239 Oh, which one do you want? Actually? Because one? Which 1974 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:04.800 one do you want? 1975 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:05.920 Now? 1976 01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:08.800 Are you dragging him? 1977 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:09.000 Oh? 1978 01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:09.359 Oh? 1979 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:09.640 Oh? 1980 01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:10.920 Which one do we want? 1981 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:12.560 For QC Beast? 1982 01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:14.439 But fixed income? 1983 01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:17.520 Yeah they have but the uh which what am I 1984 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:18.039 playing for them? 1985 01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:18.199 Though? 1986 01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:22.119 Come on, oh my man, I was gonna play the birdies. 1987 01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:25.000 But okay, Rob knows it was Thanksgiving Day two thousand 1988 01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:25.279 and eight. 1989 01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:30.479 Sorry, it's QC Beast. 1990 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.760 Hold on a minute, ready. 1991 01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:33.720 Macaccini works. 1992 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.640 If I got to hear about one more over time 1993 01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:38.279 of he's working one more tour all over time, I'm 1994 01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:39.279 gonna fucking vomit. 1995 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.439 Guy, he's always working over time, but he can't afford fortnight. 1996 01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:44.159 What's the matter? 1997 01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:48.239 What's getting all worked up over here? Easy? 1998 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:53.520 You have told me, don't put those fucking guys questions 1999 01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:54.520 unless they played for it. 2000 01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:55.920 That was you. 2001 01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:04.560 Sorry, we got we got a photos that got a 2002 01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:06.319 couple of saving two for. 2003 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:09.680 I forgot about. 2004 01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:14.920 Yeah, there's some legends in this photogra So McCluskey talks 2005 01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:16.319 a lot about e J. Tierney. 2006 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:18.079 E J is the one who's front and center there. 2007 01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:21.439 We lost him to nine to eleven cancer and this 2008 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.119 was a dinner in his honor. 2009 01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:24.359 I think it was the chiefs dinner. 2010 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:29.399 And this is just a crew almost all officers, but 2011 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.680 all guys that worked in the sixteenth of time in 2012 01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:35.920 the companies or chiefs. So that's an amazing photographs. 2013 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.720 Left, who's that kneeling down all the way on the. 2014 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:44.199 Left, I'm not sure. 2015 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:49.720 I thought that was that's that rock over loup Ronaldi. 2016 01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:52.000 No, I'm not sure who that is. 2017 01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:54.079 They're great. 2018 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:56.439 I'd have to look at a bigger photo. 2019 01:31:57.159 --> 01:31:59.000 A lot of dust in that picture, a lot. 2020 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:01.600 Of dust, you know. I know what I hear when 2021 01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:02.000 I see that. 2022 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.159 A lot of chiefs, A couple of staff chiefs in there. 2023 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.960 Yeah wow, Yeah, that's like who's who the sixteenth Battalion 2024 01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.199 in the eighties and Grace right there? 2025 01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:18.119 Yeah, all right, there we go. 2026 01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:20.000 A couple more photos, I think. 2027 01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:22.199 Yeah, oh oh, here we go. 2028 01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:24.199 Oh good lord. 2029 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.399 So that was affectionately known as the missile strike. It 2030 01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:32.399 looked like that building got hit by a missile. Where 2031 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:35.800 this was on one hundred and forty fourth Street in 2032 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:37.920 Manhattan and on the corner of Broadway. 2033 01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:39.680 I thought, I was crazy. 2034 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:41.520 Good thing they were working on the building. 2035 01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:46.720 Did this guy this guy went into the apartment with 2036 01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:49.920 two gallons of gasoline poured all over the apartment and 2037 01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:52.479 threw a road flare and there and ran out and 2038 01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:56.880 we got there and it was it was a sixth 2039 01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:59.720 story building. We were kind enough to make it a 2040 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.600 five story. 2041 01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.399 I usually say we didn't do some good. 2042 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.159 No, we didn't do so hot that day. This is 2043 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:11.319 the same building, a different corner. So there was fire 2044 01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.920 throughout that entire top shug shugging. That building was like 2045 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:18.039 one hundred and fifty by one hundred and fifty. That 2046 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.359 was one of those best jobs in my career. 2047 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:21.840 Yeah. 2048 01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:24.239 That was the first time I ever got on a 2049 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:26.560 handy talking and told the chief we're bailing out of 2050 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:30.600 this place. Yeahs coming from that Mike Malarkey had the 2051 01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:33.039 nozzle and eighty engine. I was screaming at him to 2052 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.239 open the line up, and he said it was wide 2053 01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:38.119 open right over our heads. It wasn't cool and ship, 2054 01:33:38.359 --> 01:33:43.239 what are you talking about it? Yeah, Milwaukee that that 2055 01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:46.760 job probably ended three careers and no doubt. 2056 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:48.600 And there were a lot of hurt feelings too. 2057 01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:51.680 Let me tell you hurt feelings in three quarters. 2058 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:55.199 Yeah, all right, got another job for you. 2059 01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.560 This is a this is I think fire on the 2060 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.520 second floor, communication up to the third floor. And the 2061 01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.600 reason I posted this picture is because I remember it. 2062 01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:10.359 It was on September eleventh, I think in twenty twenty. 2063 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.680 So we had all gone down to the trade center 2064 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:14.600 and paid our respects and they came in to do 2065 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:17.920 the night tour and we're in this apartment. We put 2066 01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.319 the fire out and the kid in the bucket comes in. 2067 01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.039 Off the bucket is Carlo Sarrow. His father was killed 2068 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:28.239 on nine to eleven in four truck. Then on the 2069 01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:31.760 can with me is Jesse Barnes, his father was killed 2070 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.079 in twenty five truck on nine to eleven. And then 2071 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:38.560 coming down the hallway, my good friend Chris Blackwell, his 2072 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:40.880 son is in Squad forty one. So I got three 2073 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:46.039 kids in this apartment. All of their fathers were killed. 2074 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:53.840 And that's tough, man, But it is a good thing 2075 01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:57.319 to see the guys, the kids doing that stuff. 2076 01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:59.600 I mean, it's all the time. I know, Angeline's son 2077 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:01.640 just got on the job, right, I mean, it's just 2078 01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:04.520 every time I see that. You know, I say all 2079 01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:07.800 the time, fucking social media is a cancer. You know, 2080 01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:10.239 it's just garbage. But then I see, you know, a 2081 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.720 story like Angeline's son, and I think there's a couple 2082 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.359 of other guys in that, and it just it makes 2083 01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:17.199 me proud, right, I mean, I just you know the 2084 01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:19.560 fact that you had those guys in your place and 2085 01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:23.079 then and their sons are coming to work in your type, 2086 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:25.199 in your place at all the firehouses they can work, 2087 01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:28.039 They're coming to work in your place, right, I mean. 2088 01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:31.439 To have three legacies in the fire department at once. 2089 01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:33.279 I wanted to tell all three of them to sit 2090 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:33.800 in the corner. 2091 01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:39.239 Not yeah right, It's like I'm gonna be. 2092 01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:43.800 Yeah, yeah. If you get hurt, I'm gonna be pissed 2093 01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:44.319 off of you. 2094 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:50.319 Yeah yeah, David private Ryan stay here. 2095 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:54.159 You lost some of the good men. And uh, it's 2096 01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:58.039 great that these guys, uh and girls are carrying on 2097 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:02.079 the legacy of their fathers. Yeah yeah, I was immense pride. 2098 01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:04.199 Steve and I were talking during the pre show and 2099 01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:08.239 I was trying to figure out how many members have 2100 01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:10.720 joined since nine to eleven family members are part of 2101 01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:12.960 FT and Y now and I was just trying to 2102 01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:14.399 look it up and there's no I can't find it 2103 01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:16.600 out with them, it's. 2104 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:17.880 Over one hundred, it is. 2105 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:21.159 We got to we got the Geese boys. 2106 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:22.880 Where did Allen's kid go? 2107 01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:26.600 He just went, you know, he's probably I think he's 2108 01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.000 in the Canama now right now. 2109 01:36:29.279 --> 01:36:35.039 Yeah yeah, so many guys. Yeah yeah, So that's why 2110 01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:36.000 I posted that picture. 2111 01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.319 No worries. One more great two more good jobs. Your 2112 01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:42.680 last photo jack job. 2113 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:46.840 That was the one I mentioned. Pete Sobo was the chauffeur. 2114 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:52.560 We had Timmy Dawn and Sean hanniberg uh Brady wear them. 2115 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:54.560 They were all working this fire. And I don't know 2116 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:57.119 who took this picture. Is a great photograph. I don't 2117 01:36:57.159 --> 01:36:59.600 have that many photographs of fire pictures. 2118 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:02.840 That's a great uh. That to me is like when 2119 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:04.560 I say all the time, like on the on the thing, 2120 01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:08.199 if I post something like when you turn the corner, yeah, 2121 01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:10.560 and you and you see fire out the window, like 2122 01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:13.239 that's a perfect thing. Like you're like, that's a good job. 2123 01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:14.920 You could tell that's a nozzle man's dream. 2124 01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:15.760 It's gonna be a. 2125 01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:17.600 Good jobey inventing. Yep. 2126 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:18.159 Yeah. 2127 01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:20.399 And you know it's funny. I don't have a lot 2128 01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:23.520 of pictures of when I was in thirty because it 2129 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:24.640 was before. 2130 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:24.960 Us cell phones. 2131 01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:29.239 Now we got citizen app we can get photographs of 2132 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:29.640 the job. 2133 01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:31.239 Well, we've been there on the way. 2134 01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:33.319 Yes, you can get a build them size up on 2135 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:34.800 the way. It's crazy. Whatever are is? 2136 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:36.279 He said, one hundred and fifty five. 2137 01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:39.399 I believe that because what I say over one hundred 2138 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:40.279 I believe that. 2139 01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:43.279 Yeah, no, they said Ageline, that's where Angeline's son went. 2140 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:44.000 One fifty. 2141 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:49.119 Yeah, oh, one fifty five. Okay, that's great, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, 2142 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.279 there's so many guys. I mean, I don't even want 2143 01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:53.760 to list them from memory because I know I'm gonna 2144 01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:54.520 miss so many. 2145 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:57.159 But there's so many guys. And like I said, and girls. 2146 01:37:57.239 --> 01:38:00.079 That are on the job now their father's Paris on 2147 01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:03.960 nine to eleven, and uh, what a wonderful tribute and 2148 01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:06.119 honor to their follows and to their legacy. 2149 01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:08.039 You got a bunch of guys in off my house 2150 01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:13.119 rough even boys, boys. What's his names? The daughter from uh. 2151 01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:17.439 From oh Smith, Yes, Joseph. 2152 01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:19.359 Yes, Smith was in has Matt Yeah. 2153 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:21.960 Yeah, he was in a busy engine company before. 2154 01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:24.119 Yeah, she was in she was in thirty nine. We 2155 01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:25.279 were at the same time. 2156 01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:26.439 I think she's still there. 2157 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:33.319 She went to has Matt or the has Matt engine. Yeah. Yeah, 2158 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:36.560 what's the mad engine in Queens, like a seventy four. 2159 01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:40.600 Yeah, that's where she went. She wasn't thirty nine engine. 2160 01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:41.880 Yeah, that's cool. 2161 01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:42.439 Yeah. 2162 01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:44.359 I think she was the first one, right, the first 2163 01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:45.279 family member to join. 2164 01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:48.039 Is that what he did? She was He was one 2165 01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:48.600 of the first ones. 2166 01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:50.960 I think she has and I believe her father was 2167 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:53.880 a marine as well. We brought a piece of steel 2168 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:57.199 down to Quantico, Virginia. If you guys ever happened to 2169 01:38:57.239 --> 01:39:00.399 go to Quantico. There's a museum, the Marine Corps Museum, 2170 01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:03.560 just off the path, not inside the museum, but outside, 2171 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:05.000 just off the path, there's. 2172 01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:07.439 A two pieces of World Trade Center steel and. 2173 01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:10.159 We have all the names of the guys from FDNY 2174 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:12.159 that were killed on nine to eleven that were in 2175 01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:13.159 the Marine Corps. 2176 01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:14.439 Nice. 2177 01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:16.680 Yeah, all right, that's down a Quantico. 2178 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:19.680 Yeah, another one. I got two more. 2179 01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:21.159 So this is just. 2180 01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:25.159 Another one of the proudest moments in my career. This 2181 01:39:25.239 --> 01:39:27.439 is a metal day, I think in twenty twenty one. 2182 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.800 The guy in the center is the recipient of the 2183 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.439 Gancy Medal, the highest medal that you can receive. Wow. 2184 01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:35.479 He also did a roof rope rescue. 2185 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.920 He rescued a five year old girl in a top 2186 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.840 floor window at a job in Washington Heights and Abe 2187 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:48.079 Miller is his name, And there's one of the proudest 2188 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:51.920 moments of my career. I think that this outshines any 2189 01:39:51.960 --> 01:39:55.119 accomplishment that I ever had. To have a guy in 2190 01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:59.239 your company receive the highest medal and also for roof 2191 01:39:59.319 --> 01:40:02.279 rope rescue. What a proud moment. Not only did he 2192 01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:04.680 get the Gancy Medal, but he was also invited to 2193 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:08.039 the White House and President Biden gave him the Medal 2194 01:40:08.039 --> 01:40:13.640 of Freedom or whatever, the civilian highest honor. Also receive 2195 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:16.640 that medal at the White House. Yeah. So, Abe, he's 2196 01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:20.439 one of my all stars and I have tremendous pride 2197 01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:23.359 in him and I standing behind him. 2198 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.199 Steve, I'm gonna, I don't wanna. I had the same 2199 01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:32.880 exact scenario. That's the guy I was in squad boss 2200 01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:37.359 in the squad and bones McCoy right. He he got 2201 01:40:37.359 --> 01:40:40.199 the Gancy And when we got the word, I was 2202 01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:42.760 out fishing with my chauffeur who was in the squad. 2203 01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:46.520 We were out fishing and I sat down and I 2204 01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:49.920 was like overwhelmed, like how proud, Like I was like 2205 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:53.239 to have that, Like I couldn't believe like it was 2206 01:40:53.319 --> 01:40:54.279 as if I got it. 2207 01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:57.960 Yes, that's how I felt. I told him, this is 2208 01:40:57.960 --> 01:41:00.600 one of the proudest moments in my career. And I 2209 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:02.159 was so happy for him. 2210 01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:04.439 I agree. I was so happy for that guy. 2211 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:06.920 And like I said earlier, it was always my goal 2212 01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:10.319 as a company officer to make my men greater than 2213 01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:13.319 I was, greater fireman, and I think I achieved that. 2214 01:41:13.319 --> 01:41:17.000 Those guys are absolute all stars. I would follow any 2215 01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.319 one of them anywhere. 2216 01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:23.399 I agree. Yeah, and that guy Bones John McCoy. He 2217 01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:27.439 I called him Bones because of Star Trek, but he uh, 2218 01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:29.479 he was one of the first guys that came to 2219 01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:30.720 the squad after nine to eleven. 2220 01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:33.319 Yeah, and you know he you know he we took 2221 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:34.439 a shine to him right away. 2222 01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:37.680 Man, he was a good dude then. Yeah, he just 2223 01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:38.119 got the. 2224 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:40.359 Get your fucking shine box. 2225 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:44.560 I don't know if you heard, I don't shine anymore. 2226 01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:46.000 I don't know, while I. 2227 01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:48.880 Don't know shines anymore. 2228 01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:52.960 Yeah, this is the last one you wanted to show. 2229 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:58.399 Oh, so that's uh full circle. This was in the 2230 01:41:58.479 --> 01:41:59.119 middle of the night. 2231 01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:01.640 I was I got a phone call. I was working 2232 01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:03.720 at twenty three. I got a phone call. They said 2233 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.279 we need you to go to the sixteenth battalion. One 2234 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:09.439 of the chiefs has a family emergency. We need you 2235 01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:11.920 to get there as soon as possible. So they moved 2236 01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.199 one of the firemen, Tommy Furlong, he's in the photograph there. 2237 01:42:15.239 --> 01:42:18.039 They moved him over from eighty engine and made him 2238 01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:21.680 the acting officer in eighty. And they took the boss 2239 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:23.239 from eighty and put him in twenty three. And I 2240 01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:25.680 went to the one six battalion. I got there not 2241 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.560 even ten minutes after I arrived. This run comes in 2242 01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.560 and then you lost the whole block. You lost the 2243 01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:31.039 whole block. 2244 01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:34.079 You're not how to do it. 2245 01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:38.720 So this this is on the corner. This is on 2246 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:41.279 the corner of one hundred and thirty fourth Street and 2247 01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:44.720 Lenox Avenue, a half a block away from thirty truck. 2248 01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:49.079 So it's a full circle, full circle moment. I think 2249 01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:51.239 if you look closely in the picture you might see 2250 01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:53.319 one of the tools that fell off my rig that 2251 01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:53.960 first week. 2252 01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:58.119 You had to be like laughing at yourself, like what 2253 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.720 that's going on here? Man? Yeah, like a. 2254 01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:04.640 Circle right around the corner from where it started. 2255 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:07.760 So that was one of my last fires as an 2256 01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:10.119 acting battalion chief, and it was right around the corner 2257 01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:10.840 from the firehouse. 2258 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:13.359 Yeah, how'd they send you off? How was your last tour? 2259 01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:15.119 Uh? 2260 01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:19.039 I was having some issues and I got hurt, so 2261 01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:21.800 I wound up tapping out and then uh I did 2262 01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:25.920 my last year, unlike duty at the academy before. Yeah, 2263 01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:28.359 so I didn't have a last tour in the firehouse, 2264 01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:29.239 so to speak. 2265 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:33.760 Yeah so, but I. 2266 01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.039 Had a good career. Like I said, my feet from 2267 01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.680 landing on them all the time, always landing on my feet. 2268 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:46.000 I was very fortunate, very fortunate or what else. 2269 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.279 Yeah, I've never done this before. 2270 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:54.079 I had pop time, pop time. Some guys have cop time. 2271 01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:55.000 I have pop time. 2272 01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:57.760 The more this is what I say, the more we 2273 01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:00.840 do this. It really comes down to if you do 2274 01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:02.600 the right thing wherever you are, even if you're not 2275 01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:06.319 in the best place at that time, inevitably you're gonna 2276 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.479 at the more time you do, you're gonna come around 2277 01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:11.760 and somebody's gonna know you happened with leeb Right, he 2278 01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:14.920 got on the squad because the guy you know knew him. Sure, 2279 01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:17.119 Chief Richardson knew him when he was bouncing in three 2280 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:20.239 twenty three. Right, And it's just the same thing happened 2281 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:22.000 to you like you. You know, God was at thirty truck. 2282 01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:23.680 He remembers you, and you know. 2283 01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:26.159 I always to say it's it's not only who you know, 2284 01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:27.039 it's who knows you. 2285 01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:31.439 Really, it does matter. If you do the right thing, 2286 01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:34.359 people are going to try and yeah, you in their spots, 2287 01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:34.720 you know. 2288 01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:37.680 So don't sending you one more picture? 2289 01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:43.199 That said me, all right, oh boy, I hope it's 2290 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:44.800 a good one. I hope it's a good one. 2291 01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:45.039 Rob. 2292 01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:46.840 Just send it somebody straight to my email. Could you 2293 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:47.079 do that? 2294 01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:49.159 I said to you my phone. 2295 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.399 Okay, yeah, okay, give me a few seconds. 2296 01:44:54.279 --> 01:44:57.800 Carl. Somebody said, Carl Sharrow. Three sons and a daughter 2297 01:44:57.880 --> 01:44:58.359 on the job. 2298 01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:01.000 That's correct. Yeah, for sorrows yep. 2299 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:01.880 Wow. 2300 01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.279 Yeah, it's a lot more than we probably think. 2301 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:06.479 Giving their mother some gray hairs. 2302 01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.439 I would love to get that information. I'm not going 2303 01:45:09.479 --> 01:45:12.680 to try to do that for next time. I always they. 2304 01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:16.720 Actually took a photograph. I saw a photograph that had 2305 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:21.520 all the legacy kids at the Fire Academy one picture. Yeah, 2306 01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:23.359 probably about two or three years ago. 2307 01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:24.520 That's pretty cool. 2308 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:25.159 And there's more. 2309 01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:28.520 Yeah, I got another one coming in Hot off the 2310 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:33.399 Press via gans Off the press, it's of somebody else. 2311 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:34.359 But oh. 2312 01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:41.800 Come on, come on, come on, take the money and run. 2313 01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:44.359 Pull it up right now. 2314 01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:47.239 So while you're looking for that photo, I did fourteen 2315 01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.119 years in twenty three truck and I asked someone to 2316 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:52.840 senior guys, guys that worked there in the eighties, I said, 2317 01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:55.279 do you ever remember in the history of the company 2318 01:45:55.319 --> 01:45:57.600 someone being there, captain being there longer than you know, 2319 01:45:57.640 --> 01:45:59.720 ten years? And they said, no, I don't think that's 2320 01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.119 ever happened. So they think they think there has been 2321 01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:06.560 a they think the longest tenured captain in the history 2322 01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:10.760 of the company. Wow, thank you, good for you, cap. 2323 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:13.479 Get myself on the back. 2324 01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:15.279 Hell yeah, oh. 2325 01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:17.159 Yeah, okay, let me see if I can blow that 2326 01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:18.159 up while you guys are looking at it. 2327 01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:22.680 That's Danny Quinn on the left, and he's uh, he's 2328 01:46:22.680 --> 01:46:25.239 a lieutenant in a place I think one twenty I 2329 01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:26.520 don't know where that is, somewhere. 2330 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:29.399 Maybe three letter three number that job. 2331 01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:32.279 And then Pete Sorbo, he was my chauf for Extraordinary. 2332 01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:35.359 He's since been promoted to lieutenant and he's at the Rock. 2333 01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:37.760 I think he got promoted about two years ago. So yeah, 2334 01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:39.600 that's a great photo. That must have been when I 2335 01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:43.520 first got to twenty three because uh little Quen Yeah 2336 01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:47.359 nice and clean, nice and white yeah clean, yeah, what 2337 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:48.000 do you have it? Now? 2338 01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:49.800 Where do you got to live? The little man Cave? 2339 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:52.119 I think they're hanging in my garage. 2340 01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:57.960 Yeah yeah, tower load of two three and now he's 2341 01:46:57.960 --> 01:46:59.119 in Tower lad of one two. 2342 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:00.920 Oh one twelve. 2343 01:47:01.439 --> 01:47:04.760 There we go there, just give me a few seconds. 2344 01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:10.600 Coming in hot right now, hot from David Williams somebody 2345 01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.680 else that we were just speaking about. There he is 2346 01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:17.239 Joe Angeline the third going a lot of. 2347 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:20.720 One fifty a. Look who that is next to him? 2348 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:21.960 Brough your buddy. 2349 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:24.600 Big al Yeah how big? 2350 01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:26.640 How Benjamin from Rescue one? 2351 01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:30.800 Yeah that is that's Davey Williams from Rescue one. He's 2352 01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:33.520 got that rescue three forty three rescue rate that he 2353 01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:34.319 tastes the places. 2354 01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:34.960 He's a great guy. 2355 01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:36.119 Guy. 2356 01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:37.720 Won't answer my phone calls when I asked him to 2357 01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:39.039 come on the show, but he's a great guy. 2358 01:47:39.039 --> 01:47:41.880 On than that, I love Davy. He must be watching 2359 01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:42.960 tonight if he sent me. 2360 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.760 That must right my gun. 2361 01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:49.199 Sorry made a little bit bigger for us, And you 2362 01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:52.239 wanted to get a little close flat top on this guy's. 2363 01:47:52.039 --> 01:47:55.439 Head, Williams's what Kirk Lester said. 2364 01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:58.159 You can always tell what decade he was by his hair, 2365 01:47:58.199 --> 01:47:59.840 and he said the flat top was the eighties. 2366 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:01.399 He was a military guy too. 2367 01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.319 I think he was like a mind guy, one of 2368 01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:06.359 the guys, and I forget what he was Vietnam Gay. 2369 01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:08.119 It'd be great if he came on the show. He 2370 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.119 could tell us the story. 2371 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:13.800 Dave, Yeah, come on, one more military guys story. When 2372 01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:15.439 I was in the Marine Corps, we had a company 2373 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.640 gunny gunnery sergeant. His name was Mike Curtin, and he 2374 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.520 was a cop in the seven to five precincts. And 2375 01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:24.479 my cousin, Robert, Robert Yeager was also a cop in 2376 01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:28.119 the seven five And when Curtin went to es U 2377 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:29.359 he became a sergeant. 2378 01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:30.039 He went to SU. 2379 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:34.720 He brought my cousin over with him, and Curtin, Vigiano, 2380 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:36.720 and Delera, all three of them were killed on that 2381 01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:42.359 truck two in Harlem b SU. And my cousin Robert 2382 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:46.000 fortunately was out and for Totten serving warrants or some shit, 2383 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:49.720 so he was spared that day. I had five cousins 2384 01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:52.359 that were city cops. All of them survived that day 2385 01:48:52.399 --> 01:48:55.479 and of course myself. So we were a very lucky family. 2386 01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:01.039 I thought i'd mentioned the Vigianos and Carton. My Carton 2387 01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:05.479 was exemplary marine. He was a drill instructor back in 2388 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:08.640 the day, a cop in the seven to five, a 2389 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.520 sergeant inn e s U Truck two. And he was 2390 01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:14.279 also killed in nine to eleven. So I shout out 2391 01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:15.640 to the Vigiano family. 2392 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.960 The family we didn't do what we talked about it 2393 01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:20.720 in the free show. We wanted to mention Georgie mont right. 2394 01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:24.680 Yeah, yeah, So his his funeral, I believe is tomorrow. 2395 01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:28.159 He was dispatcher in Brooklyn, right right, So we'll raise 2396 01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:29.119 a glass to him as well. 2397 01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:31.600 Baby baby. 2398 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:34.640 Got drinking tonight. 2399 01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:41.560 No, okay, I'll save it for the weekend, right, I think. 2400 01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:43.960 That time right now? 2401 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:44.239 Gun? 2402 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:52.039 What time is that? My friend? It is time for 2403 01:49:52.680 --> 01:49:58.039 of the day. There he is taken away, cap. 2404 01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:02.319 I guess my old school tip would just be simply 2405 01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:08.439 to uh, seek respect, not attention, be humble, but be confident, 2406 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.600 and always set the example because you never know who's 2407 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:16.159 watching you. You never know what kind of example you're setting, 2408 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.880 and who's trying to be inspired by the example that 2409 01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:22.159 you're setting. And you never know. You might train a 2410 01:50:22.199 --> 01:50:25.640 guy someday who becomes a captain and then. 2411 01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:27.199 You send your son to his firehouse. 2412 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:32.439 It happens. It happened to me. So leading by example 2413 01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:36.600 is of the utmost importance. When you don't feel like drilling, 2414 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:39.319 when you don't feel like doing the right thing, someone's 2415 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:39.960 watching you. 2416 01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:41.720 So do the right thing all the time. 2417 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:43.039 Do the right thing. 2418 01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:45.119 First part. 2419 01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:50.239 Yeah, humble, I love that. 2420 01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:54.119 Yes, that's what you should aspire to do in your career. 2421 01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:57.600 Be respected and not just get attention, because we all 2422 01:50:57.600 --> 01:51:01.600 know there's no better compliment than that guy's a good fireman. 2423 01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:06.159 Excellent. Yeah, great show, great, thank you. 2424 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:06.319 Thank you, bro. 2425 01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:09.840 I'm humbled, And what an honor was to come on. Oh, 2426 01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:11.199 I appreciate you having me. 2427 01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:13.680 Hey, by the way, do you ever see Procaccini's old lady? 2428 01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:22.000 We call them thiss iss Procaccini's husband going on. 2429 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:23.800 We don't really, we don't really talk. 2430 01:51:23.800 --> 01:51:31.920 Like any shout out. I never met her anything. 2431 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:38.439 So thank you for everybody made comments, left comments and the. 2432 01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:38.880 All that stuff. 2433 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:39.960 Thank you very much. 2434 01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:44.199 When you got guns held in safety tip, oh. 2435 01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:47.039 Ship, thank you let me grab one. 2436 01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:49.439 Oh you know I'm gonna use one ahead, Okay, okay, 2437 01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:50.199 here we go up. 2438 01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:53.760 The First Responders Center for Excellence is a not for 2439 01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:57.359 profit organization dedicated to protecting their lives and livelihoods of 2440 01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:01.039 first responders. Their education and research initiatives aim to bring 2441 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:05.279 greater awareness and understanding the challenges to the health, safety, 2442 01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:08.520 and well being of firefighters, EMS personnel, and other first 2443 01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:11.720 responders too. They are an affiliate of the National Fallen 2444 01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:13.159 Firefighter Foundation. 2445 01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:15.680 This is a simple one, bro. 2446 01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:21.199 It's been hot as fuck out, so drink and stay hydrated. 2447 01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:24.319 Because by the time you either see your dark piss 2448 01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.720 or you feel thirsty, you're already dehydrated. So make sure 2449 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:30.239 you're hydrated throughout the day. And that is the old 2450 01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.199 school health and safety tip. Who do we got next week? 2451 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:35.800 Ruff? I was just gonna mention that next week is 2452 01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:40.680 the holiday. It's July third is a Thursday, so it's 2453 01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:44.479 been a little tough to fill that spot. So we 2454 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:47.239 might have to figure something out this week. We have 2455 01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:50.319 some time after that. We're booked until September. 2456 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:53.399 Basically, if Davey Williams would call me, maybe we can 2457 01:52:53.479 --> 01:52:56.159 film a show like on a Wednesday, a Rescue one 2458 01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:58.920 show and post a Rescue one show and post it 2459 01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:02.319 on a Thursday. If Davy Williams would call me and 2460 01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:04.520 we could do that with Hash Hagen. I already got 2461 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:09.760 a Hash, I got Muley and possibly Joel Davey Williams 2462 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:11.199 come on, we'll do a rescue one show. 2463 01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:13.119 If he may be watching right now, I. 2464 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:15.800 Don't know he could be, but anyway away. 2465 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.760 All right, guys, that's all I got. Great guest, great 2466 01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:20.880 career caps. 2467 01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:23.319 Thanks brother, Thanks, enjoy your retirement. 2468 01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:24.560 I ask you a. 2469 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:28.920 Question, have you had the dream yet? 2470 01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:32.840 I've had a couple of repetitive dreams. 2471 01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:35.399 One one way, you can't find your bunky gear, and 2472 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:35.800 you get. 2473 01:53:35.960 --> 01:53:37.640 I have no gear and I'm on the radia. 2474 01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:39.920 Everybody has it. 2475 01:53:40.159 --> 01:53:42.560 Everybody has that. That's amazing. And another dream that I've 2476 01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:46.000 been having is to try I call myself and make 2477 01:53:46.039 --> 01:53:51.239 myself available for overtime. Excuse me, I call the division 2478 01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:57.239 and uh, I realized, yeah, I'll take it. 2479 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.560 I realized that money. 2480 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.319 I got no gear. 2481 01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:07.399 That's it, man, I have no gear. I gotta run 2482 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:09.000 every guy I talk to. 2483 01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:10.640 Isn't that weird? That's that's weird. 2484 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:14.000 Repeated dream. I still have it. I'm out ten years, 2485 01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:14.600 I still have it. 2486 01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:18.279 That's crazy. Yeah, and I call work and I make 2487 01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:19.479 myself available for overtime. 2488 01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:20.760 I'm available money. 2489 01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:23.760 Yeah, I don't know how they're gonna pay me, but 2490 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:25.520 i'm available, right, excellent? 2491 01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:28.720 All right, guys, we'll figure something out for Thursday. Until then, 2492 01:54:29.279 --> 01:54:32.159 stay low Ago, thanks for tuning in, and take a 2493 01:54:32.159 --> 01:54:33.880 couple of shekels out of your pocket for thanks. 2494 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:36.119 Thanks for having me man, Thank you. 2495 01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:38.439 See it was an honor. 2496 01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.199 All right, guys, have a good night in South Florida. 2497 01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:42.439 Enjoy I love that